I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarWhy can't we ask experts about their history of accurate predictions?


GravatarGod forbid we rabble have a say in decisions that often send our sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, friends and neighbors into war.


GravatarFlintstones, meet the Flintstones!

HEY WILMA!!!


GravatarEnough already with the "very serious people." I think we get the point.


GravatarFrom Old Fashioned Patriot below, this is too good to not see.


GravatarEnough already with the "very serious people." I think we get the point.


Au contraire. I think the point needs to be hammered into every human head in the USA.


GravatarAu contraire. I think the point needs to be hammered into every human head in the USA.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore


Yeah, but they don't read this blog.


GravatarDoes this tie-dye make my butt look fat?


GravatarDoes my butt look fat with this tie-dye?


Gravatarcn cannot get enough gooper enablers on staff -jessica yellin just gave rudolph/judith a big pass


Gravatarau contraire, mutherf*cker.


GravatarHey Cookie,

There are other places to hang out, dontcha know.


GravatarHey Cookie,

There are other places to hang out, dontcha know.
ignoreland


Can't I have a contrary opinion and still hang out here?


GravatarHeh. You know, I'll bet that writer was realy proud of using "clerisy". Read it over two or three times just to see how pretty it sounded. Heh.


GravatarDoes my butt look fat with this tie-dye?

I did camo tyedye yesterday. You can't see my butt.


GravatarAbsolutely. But when a thread comes up that I have no thoughts on, I just go elsewhere. Just sayin.


GravatarThis post was very complex and boring. I'd rather focus on John Edwards's latest haircut and Al Gore's weight.

Oh yeah, and librulz suck!

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GravatarNoam Chomsky once pointed out that fields in which credentials are important tend to be those fields which have no intellectual depth.


GravatarHeh. You know, I'll bet that writer was realy proud of using "clerisy". Read it over two or three times just to see how pretty it sounded. Heh.

Clerisy is like leprosy without a cure. There are clerisy colonies. A few are the AEI and the Cato Institute.


GravatarI did camo tyedye yesterday. You can't see my butt.


I was thinking about you when I saw the original tie-dye post.


GravatarAbsolutely. But when a thread comes up that I have no thoughts on, I just go elsewhere. Just sayin.
ignoreland


I had a thought, guess it just wasn't welcomed. Time for a fresh turn of phrase, that's all I'm sayin'.


GravatarNoam Chomsky once pointed out that fields in which credentials are important tend to be those fields which have no intellectual depth.
liberal


Noam Chomsky thinks my auto mechanic should be able to teach linguistics at the graduate level?


GravatarCookie,

We know you're not a troll.

Some phrases but me sometimes.

It's all good.


GravatarWe would be tye-dying right now, except the dammed rain is preventing it.

I could go can some more tomatos, but that may wait until tommorrow.


GravatarNoam Chomsky once pointed out that fields in which credentials are important tend to be those fields which have no intellectual depth.

I doubt he said that. Having an engineering degree or a residency in neurosurgery has some value. And there are some great intellectual achievements by both.


GravatarWasn't Drezner on some Chimpy furrin policy advisory committee?


GravatarI hate patchouli.


GravatarI hate patchouli

Funny you can smell the patchouli & hemp soap I used in the shower earlier.


GravatarDrezner sez he's "libertarian Republican." No such thing.

http://www.danieldrezner.com/arc...ves/ 002397.html


GravatarI hate patchouli.

Fuck you, hater. You wouldn't hate it if you smelled it on me.


Gravatarodd, i was just posting about this and i predicted that atrios would be yammering about it again.

guess that makes me an expert.


GravatarFuck you, hater. You wouldn't hate it if you smelled it on me.

Hate the smell, love the smeller.


GravatarWas "clerisy" on a Word-Of-The-Day calendar or something?



GravatarAbsolutely. But when a thread comes up that I have no thoughts on, I just go elsewhere. Just sayin.
ignoreland


not me.

i rudely butt in and talk about something else.

usually me.


GravatarOT

that was now, this is then

http://corrente.blogspot.com/200...ange-it- is.html


Gravatari rudely butt in and talk about something else.

usually me

Quite unlike the other 90 people sitting idle on the blog currently.


Gravatarwish i could stay, but i've got to go to rehearsal.

we're putting on "patchoulli - the musical"

to tell the truth, it stinks.


GravatarIf I have nothing to add to the conversation I don't say anything.

But I lurk to see if people are talking about me behind my back.

gwb:drf


GravatarPatchouli is to fragrance as cilantro is to salsa or new oak is to wine.

It can be a great ingredient, properly proportioned... as "the whole show" not so much.


GravatarBut I lurk to see if people are talking about me behind my back.

we are.

we're saying "mmmm - nice ass!"

but we are too polite to say it very loudly.


Gravatar"If I have nothing to add to the conversation I don't say anything."

I usually do this too.

"But I lurk to see if people are talking about me behind my back."

I'm not cool enough to have people talk about me behind my back.


GravatarThanks, Dave. When I blogwhore it usually kills the thread...


Gravatar"we're saying "mmmm - nice ass!""

I like tits, myself.


Gravatarok, i'm really leaving now. you are all welcome to talk about me while i'm gone.

there really ought to be a thread about me, then i wouldn't have to go off topic so often.


GravatarI like tits, myself.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


sure, but you can't see them from back there.


Gravatarfrom tofubo's link:

The Papers show that there was no concern in the decisionmaking process for the impact of our actions upon the Vietnamese people. American objectives were always to preserve the power and prestige of this country. In the light of the devastation we have brought to that unhappy land, it is hard to believe that any consideration was given to the costs of our policies that would be borne by the very people we claimed to be helping.

-Senator Gravel, 1971


GravatarBut I lurk to see if people are talking about me behind my back.

Ahh, bloody hell. Why would anyone talk about you behind your back? You're charming.

I look at it like this this: they can say whatever the fuck they want about me behind my back. I laugh, though, at those who come in here with tough talk and then get all weak and needy for support when others call them on their bullshit.


GravatarArabella, we do talk about you - but privately on the 'secret Haloscan'.


GravatarDoes my butt look fat with this tie-dye?

Baby, it looks just right!


GravatarSo I play this online strategic conquest game, and the amazing thing is how many people I come into contact with who have endured wars launched by the US and Israel. Been chatting with a 15yo Serb who remembers being terrified during Clinton's war, and have also been talking to a few kids (HS and college) in Beirut.

Fucked. Up. Shit.


GravatarOn the Sunday shows this morning, Karl Rove was treated largely with kid gloves by the hosts and was not forced to confront many difficult questions about his ethical improprieties while serving in the White House.

In three Sunday show appearances, he was not asked once about his efforts to politicize the federal government, despite the fact that a front-page article appeared on that very subject this morning in the Washington Post. Rove was also not asked about his role in selling the war prior to the invasion. Nor was he asked about his connections to Jack Abramoff, his use of non-White House email accounts, or his stewardship over the Katrina reconstruction efforts.


Shocking, but true.

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Gravatar I lurk to see if people are talking about me behind my back.

The only thing worse than being talked about is NOT being talked about...


GravatarI fucking HATE cilantro in anything.
[Gag. Choke. Puke.]


GravatarWhen I have nothing to say my lips are sealed
Say something once why say it again
Psycho killer, qu'est que c'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa


GravatarI can't watch teevee when Haloscan is on Sunday morning.


GravatarAfternoon, rational people.

I have come to reassess my concept of experts and expertise. I now require proof of past success.

As a result, I have no objection to Atrios hammering on this subject, but I can also see Cookie's point.

There is such a thing as preaching to the choir.


GravatarSo how long was I "dave1021"?

I had to change my commenting name to post at the local fishwrap this morning... didn't realize they were using haloscan!


GravatarI'm not cool enough to have people talk about me behind my back.
Uncle Blodge


you're cool to me


Gravatarevening moonbats


GravatarAs a result, I have no objection to Atrios hammering on this subject, but I can also see Cookie's point.

There is such a thing as preaching to the choir.


Choirs often practice to sound good...


GravatarI fucking HATE cilantro in anything.

You and Rex Rabbit would NOT get along.

He LOVES his cilantro!


GravatarSo how long was I "dave1021"?


I knew that was you!

It's our kos connection, babe,


GravatarAll day. I thought you were making some kind of opaque statement about the duality of Man.


GravatarChoirs often practice to sound good...


Nice segue into the importance of being earnest...and more importantly, persistent.


Gravatar"you're cool to me"

awww thanks for the smile.

part it's my joke that whenever people talk about music or movies I don't know anything they're talking about.


GravatarThe tangible harm of inequality


GravatarYou and Rex Rabbit would NOT get along.

Read that as "Sex Rabbit" scrolling down quickly.

Why, that's not right, I thought...

My mistake.


GravatarAnd there is an economic policy clergy and they worship at the two temples of the ECB and the Fed.

Atrios has a blind spot here.


GravatarIt's our kos connection...

Wasn't that a disco hit in the 70s?


GravatarI like the way clerisy rhymes with heresy.

Yikes it was word of the day in October 2001!


GravatarAlthough there were a number of odd things about Ignatieff's piece in the MYT magazine, the strangest was his assertion that people in the academic community can play with ideas without consequence. Economists, scientists, engineers, medical researchers, and others would all find that assertion bizarre. What is true is that you can do so in the Foreign policy arena (provided that you are only concerned about your own professional career).

In all fields of valid intellectual inquiry there are ways of figuring out whether ideas have merit. To identify who is right an who is wrong. It may take years to do so but if a problem cannot be solved there is little value in addressing it. In general those individuals that are on the right side of any debate end up setting the stage for future work in that field. Again this may take time but it is necessary . You can't expand intellectual inquiry on idiocy.

The "serious foreign policy establishment" has replaced any effort to seek knowledge with the ability to parrot particular statements. So long as one is connected and can parrot the correct statements they are considered "serious." Its an unsustainable and dangerous state of affairs. Reality tends to intrude in rather impolite and brutal ways.


GravatarNice segue into the importance of being earnest...and more importantly, persistent.

I will need help on this...


GravatarI fucking HATE cilantro in anything.
[Gag. Choke. Puke.]
Vicki, Who


For a pot luck supper here I made breaded turkey cutlets, with nutmeg in the breading. A neighbor was raving how much she loved them. When I told her it was turkey, she said, nope that's impossible, I hate turkey. Then she wanted to know what gave the breading that special taste. When I told her nutmeg, she again told me she despised, absolutely despised nutmeg. Heh.


GravatarClimate change campaigners clashed with riot police as they descended on the BAA offices at Heathrow this afternoon to protest against plans for a third runway at one of Europe's busiest airports.

By 5pm, four people had been arrested and at least five were injured.

Skirmishes broke out shortly after noon as protesters from the Camp for Climate Action at Heathrow began their 24 hours of direct action.

Officers, assisted by mounted police, flooded into the area through residential streets between the camp site and BAA's headquarters to restore order.

Armed with batons and plastic shields, police sought to herd protesters into a nearby car park as they arrived at the airport operators' headquarters near Heathrow airport.

Some of the campaigners resisted police attempts to keep them away from the company building and sat down, refusing to move.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ enviro...hange.activists


GravatarRead that as "Sex Rabbit" scrolling down quickly.

Why, that's not right, I thought...


Au contraire!


GravatarAu contraire!
dave™©


Okay, you found that link really quick.

...like bunny, even.


Gravatarthe strangest was his assertion that people in the academic community can play with ideas without consequence
I learned years ago to be careful of what I say on a Vogon ship.


GravatarRead that as "Sex Rabbit" scrolling down quickly.

Why, that's not right, I thought...


Jessica's not bad. She's just drawn that way.


GravatarUm - we do know that these 'very serious people' are actually pretty damned stupid, right? I mean actually slow? Deficient? Not bright? C-/D+ level?

'Cause I'm here to tell you, that's what they are. Thick. Pretentious, sure, but really, really dull.
.


GravatarI believe in being serious, not earnest.


GravatarI learned years ago to be careful of what I say on a Vogon ship.

In contrast, the Vorlons don't seem to enjoy poetry.


GravatarJebus Dave.

I never knew such things existed.



Gravatar"Okay, you found that link really quick."

I wasn't going to say anything but I thought the same.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, I think you're being quite charitable in your descriptions.


GravatarTwo guests are still missing after fire destroyed a seafront hotel in Cornwall, killing one man and injuring others.

The burnt-out ruins of the Penhallow Hotel in Newquay are still being secured for experts to begin searching for bodies - probably on Tuesday, Sky News has learnt.

Hoteliers and fire union officials have attacked cuts in the local fire service.

A couple who run the hotel next door to the Penhallow told Sky News that they blamed a lack of fire fighting resources for the loss of life.


http://news.sky.com/skynews/ arti...1280413,00.html


GravatarDan Drezner's a true wonk, he's with the clerisy;
To question him's a sin, it's outright heresy.
He won't abide those stinking of patchouli:
They may be right, but they're much too unruly.


Gravatar"I believe in being serious, not earnest."

I thought it was important to be earnest.


GravatarI have always believed in the Importance of Being Earnest. And Frank.


Gravatar...you found that link really quick.

I've got an "in" at that store...


GravatarUncle Blodge, Oscar Wilde might have something to say about that


Gravataryanno, it occurs to me that what we need is a program for the VA that deals with the shell-schocked vets coming in for treatment that lets them write poetry on what war is really like, distended guts and maggots and all.

Then we ought to help them set up their own blog to publish it.

(The above was wa-a-a-ay off topic, for which I apologize.)


Gravatar Fly-fornication Moscowitz

:: doffs hat, bows deeply ::


Gravatar"Oscar Wilde might have something to say about that"

perhaps - but I prefer being Ernie.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, I think you're being quite charitable in your descriptions.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere


I did not wish to offend the genuinely slow by having them confused with these pretentious, thick, twits. Listening to these people reminds me of the kinds of hangers-on found amongst the Mosely set.


GravatarIn all fields of valid intellectual inquiry there are ways of figuring out whether ideas have merit.

I roughly agree. Or don't. Evolutionary psychology has become some sort of astrology for dead wood psychologists. These fields can do damage before they are finally put down. Eugenics, intelligence testing, etc. The Bell Curve and NCLB are children of the idea of you can measure intelligence. SJ Gould trashed this idea thoroughly. And yet he is dead, Bush the Yale cheerleader champions education, and nobody except a few (e.g., Kozol) recognize the truth.


GravatarDiane, but it is a valuable and timely suggestion.

Besides, who stays on topic here, anyway?  When I arrived, the theme was Jessica Rabbit


GravatarMatt Wrack, general secretary of the Fire Brigades' Union, said: "We know that the only two aerial appliances in Cornwall were out of action and an appliance had to come 50 miles from Devon.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/ arti...1280413,00.html

unfuckingbelieable, they had 2 fire engines in for repair during the busiest holiday season

what sort of brainfart thought it be a good fucking idea to have 2 fire engine in for repairs at the same fucking time


Gravatarlol, moscowitz


GravatarNoam Chomsky once pointed out that fields in which credentials are important tend to be those fields which have no intellectual depth.
liberal | 08.19.07 - 1:11 pm | #

Great point. What exactly were Ghandis credentials? And Buddha? The most critical inquiry for humanity is in exploring the nature of our relationship to each other and our environment. Real insight into this inquiry is most frequently provided by the poorly credentialed.

The credentialed then build careers studying and interpreting what they have said.


GravatarI've got an "in" at that store...




Literally and figuratively!


GravatarIn all fields of valid intellectual inquiry there are ways of figuring out whether ideas have merit.

That's like saying one can prove anything mathematically.  Which is utterly absurd.


GravatarI'm proud to be a dirty fucking hippie
DFH is what I'm truly pleased to be
I have no use for Carville, Rove or Trippi
And they don't lose much sleep over me.


GravatarThanks, Sallyh.

It's just that I've been reading Wilfred Owen, and this whole nobility of war bullcrap sickens me.


GravatarDiane, I think Clemenceau might suit you better...


GravatarProfessor Irwin Corey:

The World's Foremost Authority!!!!


Gravatar"what sort of brainfart thought it be a good fucking idea to have 2 fire engine in for repairs at the same fucking time"

depends - was this maintenance that could be rescheduled or was it something that needed fixing right away?

still - they should have prepared for being down those units.


GravatarFrench Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner has arrived in the Iraqi capital Baghdad for a visit at the invitation of the country's president.

The trip marks the first time a French minister has been to Iraq since it opposed the US-led invasion in 2003.

The election in May of Nicolas Sarkozy as French president brought an improvement in relations with the US.

The French Foreign Ministry said Mr Kouchner was in the country to express a "message of solidarity".

The ministry said in a statement: "At the invitation of Mr Jalal Talabani, president of Iraq, the foreign minister has just begun an official visit to Baghdad.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 6953928.stm


GravatarDebate Talk Clock


GravatarThe World's Foremost Authority!!!!
steve simels


...and a founding member of the Komedy Klerisy.


GravatarIn all fields of valid intellectual inquiry there are ways of figuring out whether ideas have merit.

Hogwash......

It is not the idea but the question that has merit. It is not the answer but the inquiry that gives meaning to our lives. The most dangerous people in the world are those who live a life of certitude.


Gravatardepends - was this maintenance that could be rescheduled or was it something that needed fixing right away?

still - they should have prepared for being down those units.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.19.07 - 1:41 pm | #


I don't know

nevertheless but having both in at the same time is poor fucking planning, especially during a holiday season


Gravatar"What exactly were Ghandis credentials?"

He was a lawyer who'd worked for civil rights in South Africa.


Gravatar"I've got an "in" at that store..."

Literally and figuratively!


For some reason, I was not informed August is Anal Sex Month.

I certainly got the memo on "Masturbation Month" in May...


GravatarAnd I mean that with the utmost conviction.....


GravatarThe most dangerous people in the world are those who live a life of certitude.
Shared Humanity


No question about it.


GravatarProfessor Irwin Corey

Did you know he accepted the National Book Award for Thomas Pynchon in 1974?

At Pynchon's request!


GravatarHe was a lawyer who'd worked for civil rights in South Africa.

And he served during the Boer Wars.


GravatarBAGHDAD, 19 August 2007 (IRIN) - Youssef Obeidi, 32, last week left Karada Hospital’s family planning clinic with news that he will not be able to have children unless he undergoes lengthy treatment to reverse his sterility. Doctors told him that in war conditions, there is a higher chance men can become sterile.

“For three years I have been blaming my wife because she couldn’t get pregnant. But after a long examination in this clinic, a doctor said that she was fine and in perfect condition to become a mother. For this reason, I had to have myself checked,” Obeidi said.

“Initially I refused because in our Arab society it is a disgrace for any man to be sterile. But later my desire to become a father overcame this and I went to the clinic, where I learnt that I couldn’t become a father because the low speed of my sperms cannot fertilize an ovule,” he added.

According to Dr Muhammad Bashier, manager of the family planning clinic in Karada Hospital, Baghdad, the number of sterile men in Iraq has increased dramatically over the past four years as a result of stress, depression and exposure to radiation and possibly chemicals.


http://www.iraqslogger.com/ index...n_to_Be_Sterile


GravatarWhat became of Coco Henson Scales?


GravatarHe was a lawyer who'd worked for civil rights in South Africa.

And he served during the Boer Wars.
NTodd, FLÜGGÅ?NK?€&


Professor Irwin Corey? Or Thomas Pynchon?

I'm gettig confused.


GravatarI'm gettig confused.
Brooklyn Girl


Have another drink dear.


GravatarThe official website of Professor Irwin Corey, the World's Foremost Authority:
http://www.irwincorey.org/

Relevant quote: "I'd rather be a son of a bitch than a son of a BUSH."

Guy's got a documentary about him coming out...could be a hot one!


GravatarI found the South African scenes in the movie "Ghandi" interesting. I have no idea if they reflected the reality of the situation, but in the movie Ghandi made no mention of the black South Africans, who of course suffered far worse than did the Indians in South Africa.


GravatarI'm gettig confused.
Brooklyn Girl

Have another drink dear.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall


An excellent idea. Perhaps my typing will improve, too.


GravatarGuy's got a documentary about him coming out...could be a hot one!

No kidding! He's 93 now, IIRC...


GravatarCliff Schecter site:

http:// cliffschecter.blogspot.co...basketball.html


GravatarMoe, and this is surprising, how?
.


GravatarSpeaking of Irwin Corey, whatever happened to Brother Theodore? I can't find anything in Google.


Gravatari'm currently reading Freedom At Midnight: The Epic Drama of India's Struggle For Independence by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre

Ghandi I think was heartbroken when India got partitioned


GravatarAt Pynchon's request!
dave™© | Homepage | 08.19.07 - 1:44 pm | #


That is so cool. My admiration for Pynchon continues to grow...ever since he wrote the liner notes for that Spike Jones reissue, I figured this is a guy after my own heart.

Then I found out he was a Roky Erickson fan...and it was love forever.


GravatarHe was a lawyer who'd worked for civil rights in South Africa.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 08.19.07 - 1:43 pm | #

I'll try not to hold that against him.


GravatarNot surprising, just interesting. I'm sure Ghandi went through a period of moral development (his whol life?), but it would have been nice to see that portrayed more directly.


Gravatar"Professor Irwin Corey? Or Thomas Pynchon?"

Ghandi - this is in response to a comment asking what were Ghandi's credentials to be a leader of a mass movement.

While I admit there is no certification for being a leader of a mass movement, Ghandi started out as well equipped as anyone.


GravatarSenator Kit Bond said on Wolf Blitzer that if there are any Iranians in Iraq we will find them and kill them all. This is how to wage war on terrorism, all out war.


Gravatar...whatever happened to Brother Theodore?

IIRC, he passed away a couple of years ago.

I came across an ancient LP of his in my parents' old record collection a few years ago. Not sure where it is now...


GravatarGhandi - this is in response to a comment asking what were Ghandi's credentials to be a leader of a mass movement.

While I admit there is no certification for being a leader of a mass movement, Ghandi started out as well equipped as anyone.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


I sincerely hope you didn't think I was serious ...


GravatarBTW, Bob Farley's pretty pissed at this post.

Funny how they circle the wagons...


GravatarMaking electricity to make snow and not make more CO2


GravatarSenator Kit Bond said on Wolf Blitzer that if there are any Iranians in Iraq we will find them and kill them all.

Well, this morning's AP told me the US is "tracking" 50 Iranian bad, bad dudes inside Iraq. So, er, how come they can track 'em but not, ya know, catch 'em?


GravatarThis is how to wage war on terrorism, all out war.

Where you posting from soldier?

"Fort Undermommysbed"???

Never heard of it...


GravatarI came across an ancient LP of his in my parents' old record collection a few years ago. Not sure where it is now...
dave™© | Homepage | 08.19.07 - 1:51 pm | #


I saw Brother Theodore at a college gig. He opened for Phil Ochs, of all people.

God, he was hysterical. Billy Crystal loved him...had him in some HBO special, IIRC.


Gravatar"in the movie Ghandi made no mention of the black South Africans,"

I didn't see all of it but I thought they did but very indirectly.

Not surprising at all - as that was not the topic of the movie. it might have been nice to see a bit more but it is after all a movie - not a documentary.


GravatarMaking electricity to make snow and not make more CO2
Moonbootica


Ah, but people will go skiing, and drive to get to the slopes, so they are in fact, indirectly, making more CO2.


GravatarWell, this morning's AP told me the US is "tracking" 50 Iranian bad, bad dudes inside Iraq. So, er, how come they can track 'em but not, ya know, catch 'em?
Moe Szyslak


Not to mention the bearded, over-six-foot dude lugging around a dialysis machine.


GravatarYeah, Brother Theodore is dead.

Rock Erickson is very much alive.


GravatarWell, this morning's AP told me the US is "tracking" 50 Iranian bad, bad dudes inside Iraq. So, er, how come they can track 'em but not, ya know, catch 'em?

And how many Saudis are we tracking?


GravatarSenator Kit Bond said on Wolf Blitzer that if there are any Iranians in Iraq we will find them and kill them all.
This won't sit well with our Shia allies in Iraq. Who did you learn foreign policy from? Voldemort?


GravatarAnd how many Saudis are we tracking?
spinoza


Go stand in the corner.


Gravatar"I sincerely hope you didn't think I was serious ..."

Um...

yeah I did as I often get lost in threads.

pardon me and my silly literal mindedness. it causes me to step in the shit all the time here.


GravatarSenator Kit Bond said on Wolf Blitzer that if there are any Iranians in Iraq we will find them and kill them all.

I'm eagerly awaiting seeing Kit Bond go over personally with his M-16 and wipe them out.


Gravatar No man's land

Since 2003 thousands of Iraqis have sought asylum in Britain, believing a country that set out to bring democracy to their homeland might shelter them from the calamitous aftermath of the war. Most are disappointed. Alex Spillius speaks to five refugees who fled for their lives


GravatarProf. Corey's site has a link to Dennis Kucinich.
.


GravatarRoky Erickson I meant to type - I've got a kitten climbing across my keyboard.


GravatarI saw Brother Theodore at a college gig. He opened for Phil Ochs, of all people.

God, he was hysterical. Billy Crystal loved him...had him in some HBO special, IIRC.
steve simels


Here we go again ...

I saw him in a small, dark club in the Village about 20 years ago. One of a kind, he was.


GravatarI'm eagerly awaiting seeing Kit Bond go over personally with his M-16 and wipe them out.

After he's finished buying rugs.

And if he can't venture out of the Green Zone, who's he gonna shoot?


GravatarI saw Brother Theodore at a college gig. He opened for Phil Ochs, of all people.

Wow!!!


GravatarI'm eagerly awaiting seeing Kit Bond go over personally with his M-16 and wipe them out.
sister of ye


"The name is Bond... Kit Bond."

I dunno... doesn't work for me.


GravatarI've got a kitten climbing across my keyboard.

Scarlatti got a sonata out of that. My mother played it beautifully.


Gravatar"Ghandi I think was heartbroken when India got partitioned"

IIRC his final hunger strike was over the violence associated with the partition.


Gravatarpardon me and my silly literal mindedness. it causes me to step in the shit all the time here.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


Not a problem ... I get that way, too.


Gravatar Ticking of the clock


Gravatar"Not a problem ... "

thank you for being gracious. not everyone has been.


GravatarBrother Theodore, late in life...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RQXNRZ6z6jo


GravatarI've got a kitten climbing across my keyboard.

Scarlatti got a sonata out of that. My mother played it beautifully.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 08.19.07 - 1:57 pm | #

My cat has penned some awesome jazz over the past year, often in the middle of the night.


GravatarAnd if he can't venture out of the Green Zone, who's he gonna shoot?
pie

No problem, any corpse that looks Arab is counted as an Al Qaeda terrorist.


Gravatar War Profiteers Read My Weblog


GravatarI've got a kitten climbing across my keyboard.

Scarlatti got a sonata out of that. My mother played it beautifully.
spinoza



He's a handful - I don't think I'd be a good parent.


GravatarIf I can't have a nap on Sunday, what have I been fighting for?
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GravatarTicking of the clock
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 08.19.07 - 1:58 pm | #

Maybe the French will replace them.


GravatarI loved Irwin Corey as a kid... used to see him on the Andy Williams Show and (IIRC) Ray Stevens' summer show. And, when my parents would let me stay up late, the Tonight Show.

(I'm saying this just to piss off Simels, btw!)


GravatarSmirk sez, you gotta repeat to catapult the propafuckinganda.


GravatarNo problem, any corpse that looks Arab is counted as an Al Qaeda terrorist.

Bond is only one of many stupid repub asshats. I hope his war support comes back to bite his head off.


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I saw him in a small, dark club in the Village about 20 years ago. One of a kind, he was.
Brooklyn Girl | 08.19.07 - 1:56 pm | #


Yeah, he had a residency there for years. I think I went once when I lived in the nabe....


GravatarBrother Theodore, late in life...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h? v=RQXNRZ6z6jo
steve simels


"My Aunt Marie floating in the chicken soup ... "

Thank you for finding that. Now I'll have to watch the rest of them.


GravatarIIRC, I saw Irwin Corey on the Mike Douglas Show. Which is also where I saw Little Richard, Mama Cass Elliott and John Lennon and Yoko Ono. For a white bread kinda guy, he had some good guests on.


Gravatardave™©:

I saw Irwin Corey open for the Stones.

I'm serious.

To announce the '75 tour, they were supposed to have a press conference at a restaurant in the Village. The rock press, including me, shows up and instead Irwin Corey is babbling.

Then the Stones pulled up outside on a flat bed truck and did "Brown Sugar."

What a great morning that was....


GravatarYeah, he had a residency there for years. I think I went once when I lived in the nabe....
steve simels


Oh jeez ...


GravatarDon't forget EschaCon 2008. Mark your calendars.


GravatarFucking Delta!


GravatarAnd how many Saudis are we tracking?
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall


And how many American neo-nazis and White Power types?


GravatarObama cuts back on discussions

Godinez principal player in Newark massacre

US Navy dances in ABC gear aboard Ronald Reagan.


Gravatara restaurant in the Village.

On Fifth around 9th Street?


GravatarI'm sure you've all seen it, but I just read this at TPM.

Wow. Those soldiers are extremely courageous to write this op-ed while still on active duty.

Wonder what will happen to them.


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On Fifth around 9th Street?
Brooklyn Girl | 08.19.07 - 2:05 pm | #


Yup. I think it's still there, actually, although I don't remember the name.


GravatarWaPo via MSNBC
The Defense Intelligence Agency is preparing to pay private contractors up to $1 billion to conduct core intelligence tasks of analysis and collection over the next five years, an amount that would set a record in the outsourcing of such functions by the Pentagon's top spying agency.

The proposed contracts, outlined in a recent early notice of the DIA's plans, reflect a continuing expansion of the Defense Department's intelligence-related work and fit a well-established pattern of Bush administration transfers of government work to private contractors
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20339771/

Hey, what could go wrong? We have too much accountability as it is.


GravatarDelta had me on a 2:05 (Central) flight out of here to Atlanta. It is delayed an hour. So, instead of just moving me to a later flight tonight, they moved me to a departure TOMORROW.

Oh, hold on, the travel agent is calling me back now ...


GravatarAnd how many American neo-nazis and White Power types?

How may explosions killing civilians are by americans? Negroponte refined the technique in central america.


GravatarYup. I think it's still there, actually, although I don't remember the name.
steve simels


I remember that day. What a trip. Lucky sumbitch, you is.

The restaurant has gone through several changes since then ... now it's one of those places that looks so effete, nobody goes there.


GravatarI found the South African scenes in the movie "Ghandi" interesting. I have no idea if they reflected the reality of the situation, but in the movie Ghandi made no mention of the black South Africans, who of course suffered far worse than did the Indians in South Africa.

That was not his purpose at the time, and he hadn't fully formulated satyagraha or the notions that societies must forgo things like Untouchability. He joined the Indian Congress, not a South African Congress, to fight unfair pass laws and other such things designed to control Indian workers.


GravatarOkay, now they've got me in Atlanta for three fucking hours (no offense, dirk, if you're here), but at least I get home tonight.



I'd better go get ready. Catch you patriotz laterz.


GravatarThe Defense Intelligence Agency is preparing to pay private contractors up to $1 billion to conduct core intelligence tasks of analysis and collection over the next five years
Only companies whose name starts with Choice and end with Point need apply?


GravatarStaffing levels at Britain's fire stations are under scrutiny after it emerged that fire crews in Newquay were able to despatch only one of their two pumps to a massive hotel blaze that killed at least one guest.

Manpower shortages meant there were not enough firefighters on call in the area to man the second pump, which requires a crew of five, the local Fire Brigade Union (FBU) said. 'Only one pump was available due to a lack of staff,' said Mike Tremellan, an official with the FBU in Cornwall. 'Quite often we can't make appliances available because we don't have enough staff, but people are unaware of this. When you look at the pictures of the fire it is clear firefighters would have wanted every appliance available.'


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/ u...2151806,00.html


GravatarI saw Irwin Corey open for the Stones.

Then the Stones pulled up outside on a flat bed truck and did "Brown Sugar."

What a great morning that was....


That was too cool. The Stones, that is.

Furry Lewis, an octagenarian Delta blues singer opened for them in Memphis on the 4th of July.

And again in 1978.


GravatarWonder what will happen to them.
pie | 08.19.07 - 2:05 pm | #

What do they know?

I'm waiting for the September report written by the White House.


GravatarAh, Mrs. Moe is arguing with the neighbour again. Better go sort things out again...

later, all.


GravatarWonder what will happen to them.

Ugh. This is what happened to one of them:

From the article: "In the course of writing this article ... one of us, Staff Sergeant Murphy, an Army Ranger and reconnaissance team leader, was shot in the head during a 'time-sensitive target acquisition mission' on Aug. 12; he is expected to survive and is being flown to a military hospital in the United States.)"


GravatarI remember that day. What a trip. Lucky sumbitch, you is.


Very good audio of that performance was broadcast on WNEW-FM at some point...It was up on Napster back in the day.

As was a great tape of Keith Richards playing "Let It Rock" with Dave Edmunds and Nick Lowe (Rockpile) at the Bottom Line the night after Keith beat the heroin rap in Canada. Which I also saw....


GravatarGee, remember yesterday when someone was upset about Rove and Hatch Act violations and I explained that nothing would be done? Confirmation.

See, for the most part, we're talking about civil Hatch Act violations. And the punishment for civil Hatch Act violations? To be fired from your job. Shall we review the names of those most involved in leading this process?

* Karl Rove
* Sara Taylor
* Scott Jennings
* Barry Jackson
* Ken Mehlman
* Susan Ralston

Rove, Taylor, Mehlman, and Ralston are gone, and Jackson is rumored to be leaving. Add in Monica Goodling, who only admitted to her massive Hatch Act violations after she resigned. So how are you going to hold the White House responsible for its massive Hatch Act violations, if the people involved have already mooted the only punishment available?


http://wwww.dailykos.com


GravatarFrom the TPM link:

Joe Klein said the troops' piece "puts to shame -- and shame is the appropriate word -- all the Kristol, McCain, Lieberman, Pollack and O'Hanlon etc etc cheerleading of the past two months." I think that's exactly right.


Say wha???

Joke Line?

I think Hell just froze over.


GravatarI think Hell just froze over.

If not frozen, at least it's getting chilly.


GravatarHow may explosions killing civilians are by americans? Negroponte refined the technique in central america.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall


Half the number that have been perpetrated on US soil by Arabs?

Just pointing out that if they're really, truly concerned about "terror," there are lots of suspects right here in the good ol' USA who are calling for REHOWA.


GravatarIf not frozen, at least it's getting chilly.
pie


True.

simels is here, I wonder what he thinks about that?


GravatarIn one of Beirut's trendier bars, four European photographers relax over cold beers. Their presence is alarming Ghassan, the barman. 'Why are there so many journalists in Beirut right now?' he asks me. "Has there been some change in 'The Situation?"'

The Lebanese can be forgiven for seeing a new slew of foreign press as a harbinger of doom, for the year since last summer's war between Hizbollah and Israel has seen crisis after crisis pummel this tiny, fractious nation with the bad luck to exist in a very tough neighbourhood.


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/ w...2151730,00.html


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Lebanese await the inevitable return of war


Mitchell Prothero in Beirut
Sunday August 19, 2007
The Observer

In one of Beirut's trendier bars, four European photographers relax over cold beers. Their presence is alarming Ghassan, the barman. 'Why are there so many journalists in Beirut right now?' he asks me. "Has there been some change in 'The Situation?"'

The Lebanese can be forgiven for seeing a new slew of foreign press as a harbinger of doom, for the year since last summer's war between Hizbollah and Israel has seen crisis after crisis pummel this tiny, fractious nation with the bad luck to exist in a very tough neighbourhood.

Article continues
The Situation, 'al-Wada' in Arabic, crops up in conversation a lot these days - a phrase that summarises the past 30 years since Beirut went from being the 'Paris of the Middle East' to a playground for every troublemaking faction in the region.

Lebanon's uncertain future is held hostage by three major crises: political stalemate between Hizbollah and the government; military crisis over the presence of Hizbollah near Israel's northern border, and the arrival of Sunni militants escaping the Iraq war to set up shop in Lebanon. For a nation as fragile as Lebanon, facing all three problems at once is untenable.


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/ w...2151730,00.html


GravatarAs was a great tape of Keith Richards playing "Let It Rock" with Dave Edmunds and Nick Lowe (Rockpile) at the Bottom Line the night after Keith beat the heroin rap in Canada. Which I also saw....
steve simels


Dude.


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simels is here, I wonder what he thinks about that?
billy b - p funk | 08.19.07 - 2:21 pm | #


Huh?


Gravatarisn't that lovely, another consequence of the Iraq war is sunni fightings moving into the Lebanon


Gravatar*fighters


GravatarHuh?
steve simels


They're referring to this:

From the TPM link:

Joe Klein said the troops' piece "puts to shame -- and shame is the appropriate word -- all the Kristol, McCain, Lieberman, Pollack and O'Hanlon etc etc cheerleading of the past two months." I think that's exactly right.


Say wha???

Joke Line?

I think Hell just froze over.
billy b - p funk


GravatarHuh?
steve simels


See my post @ 2:17 for a quote from Joke Line that's hard to believe...


GravatarIt is a world characterised by doping and extortion, by stressed performers under extreme pressure to reach beyond what is humanly possible in order to satisfy hungry sponsors' needs.

The disgraced world of cycling? No, this is a description of the stately world of opera, which is increasingly becoming the domain of drug and alcohol abusers, according to a top-class tenor.

Endrik Wottrich, a popular fixture at the annual Bayreuth festival in Germany, has revealed opera singers are turning to drugs and other stimulants to cope with the pressure from the increasing commercial demands on them. 'No one talks about it, but doping has long been the norm in the music world,' he said in an interview with music critic Axel Bruggemann in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. 'Soloists are taking betablockers in an attempt to control their angst, some tenors take cortisone to ensure their voices reach a high pitch, and alcohol is standard practice.'


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/ w...2151748,00.html


GravatarQL, or somebody, help! I'm making a very long pillow cover out of some tapestry-like upholstery fabric. It has that latex or whatever backing on it. I used heavy-duty stitch-wichery tape and it wouldn't stick. Is that maybe because the moisture from the press cloth couldn't penetrate the backing?

I'm very frustrated with this. It's too thick to hand sew, I have one old portable kenmore machine that I can't fix and another truly ancient Webster cabinet machine that I've never used and can't figure out where to put the thread spool, much less thread the thing.

I'm about to burn this beautiful fabric.


GravatarOf course, Joe Klein can still go fuck himself.


GravatarI think Hell just froze over.
billy b - p funk
Brooklyn Girl | 08.19.07 - 2:26 pm | #


Wow.

Of course, this can only be good for Republicans...


GravatarShit, the guys that wrote the editorial are in the 82nd.

I just saw a documentary on the 82nd, the All Aamerican division.

Storied group, that.

If these dyed in the wool patriots are willing to do this, it is a good sign that the military (at least the folks on the ground) are getting fed up.


GravatarOf course, this can only be good for Republicans...


More proof that the Surge is undoubtedly working.


GravatarI just killed the damn thread. (not the sewing thread yet).

Sheetz


Gravatar"If these dyed in the wool patriots are willing to do this, it is a good sign that the military (at least the folks on the ground) are getting fed up."

I hope people keep calling them patriots - because they are truly an example of what the word should mean.


GravatarIf these dyed in the wool patriots are willing to do this, it is a good sign that the military (at least the folks on the ground) are getting fed up.
billy b - p funk


Problem is, what can they do about it?

What bothers me as much as anything that is going on these days is the feeling of complete and utter powerlessness. I've never felt that before ... not even during the Nixon years.


Gravatarbye for now, the Proms is about to start on BBC4, a rather good programme tonight

Shostakovich
Symphony No. 10 in E minor (45 mins)

Interval

Bernstein
West Side Story - Symphonic Dances (22 mins)
Latin American works including music by Revueltas and Ginastera

Simón Bolivar Youth Orchestra of Venezuela
Gustavo Dudamel conductor

http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/2007/ ...08.shtml#prom48


GravatarI hope people keep calling them patriots - because they are truly an example of what the word should mean.


Yes sir.

I wouldn't have thought to use the word if I hadn't seen the documentary on the 82nd Airborne earlier in the day. The real deal.

A guy that grew up across the street from me was in the 82nd when the division was sent into Santo Domingo in the early 60's.

When he got out he gave me a set of his fztigues (I was 10 at the time).


GravatarI'm about to burn this beautiful fabric.
nuncamas


No practical help as I only use cotton.

However, I just had to put aside a project that has had me stymied for a month. To the point where I was going to throw it out. Instead, I'll wait a few weeks and go back to it. I advise you do the same with this project and think a bit before you go any further.


Gravatar"Yes sir."

No need to call me sir - i work for a living.

well, not in the summer...


GravatarNo need to call me sir - i work for a living.

well, not in the summer...


I'm probably as old or older than you Unc.


Gravatar"I'm probably as old or older than you Unc."

if you were 10 in the 60s you are - I hit that mark very late in 1969.


GravatarThank you, QL. I'm going to try the stitch-witch again, but wet the faces of the fabric first. If this doesn't work I'll lay it aside for a while.


Gravatarif you were 10 in the 60s you are - I hit that mark very late in 1969.


I hit the mark in 1966.


Gravatar"I hit the mark in 1966."

you win - I hope you weren't insulted in any way that was not my intent - just a poor attempt at humor.


Gravataryou win - I hope you weren't insulted in any way that was not my intent - just a poor attempt at humor.


Hell no.

Glad to converse with someone close to my age. These 30-something smartasses around here don't respect their elders nearly enough...

[wink]


Gravatar"These 30-something smartasses around here don't respect their elders nearly enough..."

you remember the first time you said "these kids today" and meant it?


Gravataryou remember the first time you said "these kids today" and meant it?


heh.

I don't, but I do tell my kids that a lot.

And I also know exactly what my parents and their comtemporaries meant...


GravatarV for Virginia wrote,
Noam Chomsky thinks my auto mechanic should be able to teach linguistics at the graduate level?

If he or she is competent to, sure.

Notice I said credentials. I didn't say knowledge. Please don't confuse the two.


Gravatarthe most recent Harper's to land on my doorstep has an interesting (but longwinded) Lewis Lapham article about the CFR, and it made me think that the number one reason the so-called Foriegn POlicy clerisy exists in a form that has Kenneth Pollack at the left end and Max Boot at the right is because they are all representations of a variety of foriegn policy _leader_ who is still alive and for whom they carry water like the basest hack. In the case of the article, Kissinger, who Hitchens loves to remind us is a variety of war criminal--is lauded again and again at this CFR event. If the war-overlords could be discredited, then their useless minions could be silenced.


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