I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
When SUPERTRAIN meets big shitpile: the Eschatonic harmonic convergence!
Shitpile!
Saturday morning terrorist fist-bump.
Vote early.
Bring a friend to the polls.
Vote early.
first thing Monday a.m.!
If the NYC subway system got buried by a big shitpile, no one would notice the difference.
SUPERSHIT.
If those people would just get cars and move to the suburbs, they wouldn't have these problems.
Ouch, almost sorry I brought it up. Best Wishes.
plantsman
Oh, it's all good. No worse than I expected. The garage was underinsured, but you never find that out until too late.
So thanks for asking.
It's like "Chinatown" but with transit instead of water. Watch out for your nose, Jack!
Oh, and curb cutouts.
So many reasons to be glad I don't live in LA any more. Not that what the Transit people did was any more foolish than a lot of places - just that I'm glad I don't have to be involved directly in it any more.
Have any new revelations come out about Joe the Plumber, like he got married in California to Mike the Electrician?
Dallas just laid of nearly 400 teachers unexpectedly, shitpile related casualties as well.
"Vote early."
already did.
chalk up 2 votes for OBAMA!
Vote early.
Libby, | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 10:27 am |
Next weekend.
Would have been today, but a friend and I are going to go look at some leaves.
Venus!
how's that genius political operative kid of yours?
Shitpile about to come home to roost all over this country.
So, how'd the apple butter turn out? Did the permit people come to the neighbor's?
OK, now I'm going to sleep... night shift nurses need thei
ZZZzzzz.....
chalk up 2 votes for OBAMA!
jdw | 10.18.08 - 10:30 am
Vote early, vote often?
Night, racy.
"Vote early."
already did.
chalk up 2 votes for OBAMA!
jdw
Expect a subpoena in the Acorn litigation, young man (or woman).
Dallas just laid of nearly 400 teachers unexpectedly, shitpile related casualties as well.
virgotex |
Laying off teachers in an election year?! Mayor Carchetti would not approve.
how's that genius political operative kid of yours?
virgotex
He's doing great. Stuffing the ballot box on Nickelodeon's "Kids Vote for the President" 4 real. Voted on our family computer then sneaked onto my laptop to vote again.
Vote early, vote often?
Buckeye, need chocolate | 10.18.08 - 10:31 am |
You can't tell that joke anymore without risking a visit from the FBI.
If the NYC subway system got buried by a big shitpile, no one would notice the difference.
I resent that remark.
We're not world class like others but it's cleaner than it use to be and you can get practically anywhere in 20 minutes.
"Vote early, vote often?"
wife and me. 
So, no discussion of Obama's big pushback on election fraud? His letter to Mukasey demanding an investigation of what McCain is up to, in league with the White House?
Or did I dream that was the first half of KO's show last night?
Voted on our family computer then sneaked onto my laptop to vote again.
Willendorf Venus
More proof of Democratic perfidy.
/winger
Ok really, really this time.
"Bay Buchanan Defends Michelle Bachman's "Red Baiting"
Starting to see a pattern? This from Bay's bro Pat-
One question remains: Will a President Obama, with his party in absolute control of both Houses, revert to the politics and policies of the Left that brought him the nomination, or resist his ex-comrades' demands that he seize the hour and impose the agenda ACORN, Ayers, Jesse, and Wright have long dreamed of?
Whichever way he decides, he will be at war with them, or at war with us. If Barack wins, a backlash is coming
They want to party like it's 1948.."
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...e-
bachmans.html
Shitpile about to come home to roost all over this country.
Shitpile is losing its cohesion and doing other things that involve unappealing imagery across this great nation.
At least the NYC cars are not Screaming Mustard Yellow, like Berlin's.
People in LA have already taken to bikes. Good bike lanes everywhere in the city. My brother gets $6 a day from Fox for biking to work on his power assisted solar bike.
So, no discussion of Obama's big pushback on election fraud? His letter to Mukasey demanding an investigation of what McCain is up to, in league with the White House?
Or did I dream that was the first half of KO's show last night?
Rmj
I was here last night spoiling the party trying to bring it up, with little luck.
I think it's incredibly important. Would be nice to see some bipartisanship on the request for a special prosecutor.
Rmj, Rachel had a wonderful piece with the Dem Ohio Sec'y of State and 1 with Jon Turley on her show that were brilliant. Vids at MSNBC.com
Off topic, but Haloscan ate my comment last night and I was too tired to write it again....
Drove back to the Twin Cities from Iowa yesterday - lots of McCain/Palin signs in cornfields along I-35, including one homemade sign that included the words "Stop abortion and gay marriage." Yeah, right, on your corn farm in the middle of nowhere these are the 2 issues that are ruining your life. Dude, you need to turn off Rush while you're out in the combine.
Oh, and the funniest homemade cornfield sign of the drive? "Deadbeat moms get fat off child support." I think I can write that guy's version of his life story - lol!
Or at least some reporting on it or a discussion on a gasbag roundtable tomorrow.
More proof of Democratic perfidy.
/winger
noblejoanie
I was tweeting earlier this week about how he removes McCain stickers from lampposts and USPS mailboxes on his walk home from school. Has removed 7, so far. And proudly informs mama about each one. My baby DFH!
Somebody needs to put bedbugs in Unka Pat's MSNBC cot.
Or get him a place to live.
Morning, all.
Apologies for the blogwhores, but Billy Bragg is singing a eulogy for the late great Levi Stubbs over at the homepage.
While at Box Office, I rave about a DVD of a dinosaur hocking a loogie at you in 3D!! Plus: We nominate the Greatest Gimmick Films in History!
http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...nia-spec-
19.php
As always, leave a comment and I promise Lubyanka gets a hernia.
Nice new gravatar, HBK.
Rmj, Rachel had a wonderful piece with the Dem Ohio Sec'y of State and 1 with Jon Turley on her show that were brilliant. Vids at MSNBC.com
plantsman
Gratias. I taped KO and missed Rachel last night.
When I heard about it, I realized Obama had some big brass clanging ones, and wasn't afraid to use them very effectively. Nice to see someone take messing with votes so seriously, for once.
a gooper in ohio is renewing the registration lawsuit and taking it to the ohio supreme court.
turns out the gooper bringing the suit has raised money for every gooper justice on the court.
might get interesting........
Thanks plantsman.
fruits of the spoiled Kudlownomic tree
Neighbors persist in their building - I'm assuming the City hasn't paid them a visit yet. Apple butter is all completed and stored. But I still want to sell the joint and buy this one: http://www.coldwellbanker.com/se...operty&
brand=CB
It has saskatoon berries and raspberry bushes!
It just occurred to me that the GOP's economic strategy is "eat the shitpile and die".
The texas teachers are laid off immediately, not at the end of the year?
a gooper in ohio is renewing the registration lawsuit and taking it to the ohio supreme court.
turns out the gooper bringing the suit has raised money for every gooper justice on the court.
might get interesting........
jdw
Well, he'll need someting under state law, since the Supremes have already effectively ruled on the federal question.
And it will have to work its way up to the Ohio Supremes, I would think. Besides, Obama has made it crystal clear he's brought a gun to this knife fight.
It's that guy's money to waste, I guess.....
It's a gorgeous place, GWPDA!
Investors? In public transportation?
It has saskatoon berries and raspberry bushes!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 10.18.08 - 10:39 am | #
That is one of the nicest ones you've looked at recently.
Whichever way he decides, he will be at war with them, or at war with us. If Barack wins, a backlash is coming
They want to party like it's 1948.."
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...e- bachmans.html
pigboy | 10.18.08 - 10:34 am | #
Mentioned this downstairs, but I was listening to Jerry Agar, the wingnut talk radio guy filling in for the satanic Mark Levin last night.
"Barack Obama is not a Democrat. He's not a Liberal. He's not a Progressive. He's not even a Socialist.
It's time to start using the "C" word.
Barack Obama: He's a Communist."
The shape of the next three weeks, folks....
It's time
The Censure Bachmann person updated; over 10,000 have now joined up.
http://www.censurebachmann.com/
WASHINGTON — In a newly disclosed legal memorandum, the Bush administration says it can bypass laws that forbid giving taxpayer money to religious groups that hire only staff members who share their faith.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/
1...agewanted=print
Nobody cares anymore.
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Investors? In public transportation?
Presumably AIG was covering things like short term debt and some long term shit since the LA transit people found it more favorable to borrow money from them than float a bond.
Nobody cares anymore.
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QuentinCompson
We care. We just have to wait a few months to fix it.
.a gooper in ohio is renewing the registration lawsuit and taking it to the ohio supreme court.
turns out the gooper bringing the suit has raised money for every gooper justice on the court.
might get interesting........
jdw
They're going full banana republic. I hope people are doing a good job of documenting the atrocities, so that we can keep them down all the longer after they lose.
If GWPDA buys that place, I know where Eschacon III will be
One of the things conservatism brought to California was extreme voter parsimony.
Somebody needs to put bedbugs in Unka Pat's MSNBC cot.
Or get him a place to live.
Srsly! He's on the air there 'round the clock. It's like "old Pundit Elder Care" or something.
They're going full banana republic. I hope people are doing a good job of documenting the atrocities, so that we can keep them down all the longer after they lose.
blerb
We need to develop much longer memories and hone our grudgeholding.
Seriously.
"The shape of the next three weeks, folks...."
the only kwestion is if it will work.
i don't have tons of faith in the electorate.
It's that guy's money to waste, I guess.....
Rmj
Exactly.
My wife saw an article this AM that Republicans are trying to get EARLY VOTING locations in NW Indiana closed. Judge spanked 'em.
You wonder how these scumbags can look in the mirror.
My wife saw an article this AM that Republicans are trying to get EARLY VOTING locations in NW Indiana closed. Judge spanked 'em.
You wonder how these scumbags can look in the mirror.
jac, satyrical
"Fear is the little death, fear is the mind-killer...."
It has saskatoon berries and raspberry bushes!
The rad in the bathroom looks like hot water heat, too.
The real voting fraud.
In Alabama, scores of voters are being labeled as convicted felons on the basis of incorrect lists.
Michigan must restore thousands of names it illegally removed from voter rolls over residency questions, a judge ruled this week.
Tens of thousands of voters could be affected in Wisconsin. Officials there admit that their database is wrong one out of five times when it flags voters, sometimes for data discrepancies as small as a middle initial or a typo in a birth date. When the six members of the state elections board -- all retired judges -- ran their registrations through the system, four were incorrectly rejected because of mismatches.
i don't have tons of faith in the electorate.
jdw
Here's the thing--if folks vote early, which by all acounts is happening, all that voter intimidation and suppression will be for naught.
Fuck, what a nightmare. If you read the article, you'll see it was a sale-and-lease-back deal. If it goes south, MTA will have to pay off the investors (in effect, buy back the stuff they sold-and-leased), which could mean up to 1.2 billion in immediate payments (half MTA's budget). This won't stop with MTA.
Of course, people warned against these deals (who relied on tax law to be of interest to the investors), but public officials didn't feel the need to think ahead. Big surprise.
what am i doing up already?
Deep thought: Sometimes the shitpile is so big that you have to flush twice.
It has saskatoon berries and raspberry bushes!
But it lacks huckleberry bushes and easy driving range of Jackson.
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Good morning, friends.
what am i doing up already?
dirk gently
Good morning, sleepyhead. How was opening night?
Los Angeles MTA board member Richard Katz said: "The feds need to be concerned. If they bailed out the companies, they also need to bail out the public agencies impacted by the companies' actions."
That will be the difference between a McCain and an Obama administration. McCain would cry and is already yelling "socialism", while Obama would say that of course it is only fair to help all the parties affected. Socialism for McCain means that that a policy benefits millions of people; socialism can only be allowed if the benefits are restricted to a few, preferably the already rich. Very good Bill Maher show on the subject last night, led by the incomparable Bernie Sanders.
"The next potential victims of the nation's credit crunch: nearly 1.5 million people who ride buses and trains each weekday in Los Angeles County. Transit officials say riders could soon be facing serious service cuts."
Well, why can't these people get their chauffeurs to drive them to work?
/high ranking Repigs
The rad in the bathroom looks like hot water heat, too.
Bless ur heart, Finny Johnson is right! No better heating source than that, on the fringes of the prairie when the dry cold sets in.
Evergreen Huckleberries do quite well in this part of Oregon, so GWPDA is welcome to stop by.
Classic GOP projection. They aim to tear at the fabric of democracy by suppression and politicization of the DOJ, so they accuse Obama and ACORN of it.
The texas teachers are laid off immediately, not at the end of the year?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 10.18.08 - 10:40 am | #
immediately, no warning, no additional work days available.
Animals love hot water heat.
what am i doing up already?
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 10:48 am
How was the show? Standing ovation at the final curtain call I assume.
what am i doing up already?
dirk gently
Checking "Variety" for your name?
Ohio has en unemloyment rate of 7.4% and just asked the federal government to give them $300 million.
but, but, but, Acorn!!!!
From the last thread
Reid and Pelosi will have to go then
pigboy
I figure they will probably impeach Obama if he tries any major changes.
This one looks like a no-brainer. The Feds pick up the payments on the lease. Put it on the list of money to be paid back.
immediately, no warning, no additional work days available.
How many administrators, supervisors and such did they lay off?
My wife saw an article this AM that Republicans are trying to get EARLY VOTING locations in NW Indiana closed. Judge spanked 'em.
I would LOVE, just LOVE, for one of these assholes to try to physically restrain someone from trying to vote....and someone to beat the living shit out of them.
Leonard Maltan reviews:
"Dirk Gently may need to call Joe the Plumber to extract from his sewer pipes the remains of the scenery he masticated to a fare thee well last night..."
j/k
Reid and Pelosi will have to go then
pigboy
OK - deal.
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The ACORN shit doesn't seem to be working for the Repigs, does it?
It IS raising money for ACORN.
I am so glad that so many Democrats have the courage to vote their conscience in this election and vote for Senator McCain and Gov. Palin. They stand for smaller government, lower taxes and job creation a strong military and homeland security. Their opponent is a weak candidate with no record of accomplishing anything who associates with terrorists and whose wife hates America.
How many administrators, supervisors and such did they lay off?
leibniz leibkins
Have faith.
They will go as soon as the golden parachutes are worked out.
I'm glad so many trolls have the courage to lie anonymously on the internets.
Pat Buchanan smells defeat for McCain on MSNBC.
Former Democrat Voter
Facts mean nothing to loons like this, but the fact is, this year, that many more Repubs are crossing the aisle to vote Dem than the other way around.
Animals love hot water heat.
Iz why I haz spa. Very comforting. Actually, we fitted our house in Calgary with baseboard hotwater heating - brilliant stuff. And that was back in teh 50s. Hypocaustic it was.
Enjoy Hell, "Former Democrat Voter."
Good morning.
Did Michele Bachmann say anything crazy yet today?
Former Democrat Voter | 10.18.08 - 10:54 am |
If I gave you a time and a place, would you agree to fight me?
Pat Buchanan smells defeat for McCain on MSNBC.
plantsman
It's all part of the plan--"if you don't vote, the scary black communist/terrorist is going to win."
And if he wins, we'll have a scary black communist/terrorist as our president. IMPEACH HIM
Did Michele Bachmann say anything crazy yet today?
She said enough yesterday for several days.
Pat Buchanan smells defeat for McCain on MSNBC.
plantsman | 10.18.08 - 10:57 am | #
Pat Buchanan smells.
Thats better.
My doctor left a message on my voicemail that she's worried about my A1C hemoglobin.
I wish she would have spoken to me instead of leaving a fucking message freaking me out.
Strange dreams last night.
Something about jet planes, high heeled shoes and bacon.
And there was Steelly Dan music playing in the background.
Woke up exhausted.
Did she tell you what your a1c is?
what am i doing up already?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
asking myself the same question, but the boys have psat this am. started them off w/a good breakfast
Pat Buchanan smells.
It's that small closet at MSNBC they let him sleep in.
It seems like the $700 billion could go for things like that rather than lining Wall St speculators' pockets.
I wish she would have spoken to me instead of leaving a fucking message freaking me out.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
I think she just means you are sweet.
Saturday, October 18, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 45%. These figures reflect a remarkably stable race in which Obama has enjoyed a four-to-eight point advantage for twenty-three straight days. McCain has not been up by even a single point in over a month.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/
...l_tracking_poll
Where do the Americans who love America live? Paraguay?
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The most surreal moment came on MSNBC yesterday when Chris Matthews was discussing whether Michelle Bachman was a Fascist with Pat Buchanan.
Whats wrong with this picture?
plantsman nope.
Just that she wants to see me again in 6 weeks.
That's all true -- and McCain is still going to lose.
My doctor left a message on my voicemail that she's worried about my A1C hemoglobin.
Well that sounds scary. That sucks that she would just leave a message. Hope she also left a callback number.
That sucks; I want real information, not vague forebodings from a doctor.
The ACORN shit doesn't seem to be working for the Repigs, does it?
Reading about them, what they are trying to do, and the legal requirements around it, it occurs to me that a great Republican strategy would be to infiltrate them with submitters of bogus registration forms. They have no defense against that.
I dunno, but it sounds like Dallas ISD's problem was management, not investments.
Still, sucks to be a teacher in Dallas.
Good morning, sleepyhead. How was opening night?
noblejoanie | 10.18.08 - 10:49 am | #
twas very good - yes, we did get a standing O. i just hope the seats are dry by tonight's show.
FReeper sez God raised up Sarah and Joe the Plumber:
But, because Joe the Plumber, a regular every-day Amereican playing catch with his child on a middle class American street, trying to earn a living for his family, was honest about the impact of the Obama plans from his perspective, and because he did not drink the Obama kool-aid, the MSM, the DNC, and the Obama campaign now consider that hard working, well spoken, young man as the enemy.
Just as Patrick Henry indicated, and that truth still holds today...if we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.
Sarah Palin is one such friend...now, out of obscurity, Joe the Plumber is another.
All thanks for this goes, IMHO, to a merciful God in Heaven! and millions of hard working, partiotic, loyal Americans who will not give up...two of which, Joe and Sarah, have been brought forth before us all to express these sentiments.
The truth is that the left, the Obama campaign, the DNC, and the MSM will lie, fabricate, misquote, commit fruad, beg, borrow, or steal in their effort to slow down what is happening on the ground with the McCain campaign right now, and particularly with the likes of Joe and especially Sarah Palin who is burrowing underneath all of their hype and drawing 25-30,000 people at a time to her rallies and getting the message of hope and conservative values out.
Obama and his ilk know it, they fear it, and they will do anything they can to stop it...but they shall also fail in the attempt. In fact it already is backfiring as Americans all over the country take up Joe's cause.
Where Sarah's concerned, First Dude likes to do his own plumbing. You should keep that in mind.
What's the beef. I was over in Miles City, MT yesterday and picked up the Billings (MT) Gazette, which featured the following story:
"Candidate denies he’s a vegetarian
By Charles S. Johnson
Billings Gazette State Bureau
Helena – Republican gubernatorial candidate Roy Brown this week accused Democrats of spreading a false rumor that he is a vegetarian in this meat-loving state.
“I am not and have never been a vegetarian,” Brown Said.
“I am disgusted by the baseless allegation that I am a vegetarian and that my personal eating habits should somehow be construed as opposed to the economic interests of Montana’s livestock industry.”
HBK--it sounds like a very effective message to me. No phone tag, wants to retest you in six weeks, needs that info before proceeding.
You know what she's thinking and what the next step is.
/doctor's spouse, full disclosure.
And service is already weak. This is not going to motivate people out of their cars.
twas very good - yes, we did get a standing O. i just hope the seats are dry by tonight's show.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Halloween show?
twas very good - yes, we did get a standing O. i just hope the seats are dry by tonight's show.
dirk gently
I'd love to have been there--congratulations!
Checking "Variety" for your name?
jac, satyrical | 10.18.08 - 10:51 am | #
i'm just happy it was spelled correctly in the program.
the woman who plays the maid stole the show - as i knew she would. it's a funny role, and she is brilliant. i love working with a good cast.
And stop worrying about impeachment and filibuster. The congress is already more heavily dem than the 94 house was republican.
Even short of 60 senate seats, Obama will be able to go on the teevee and call out the obstructionists. It seems like it would also be a good idea to replace Reid with a feistier more effective person. (Clinton would be good.) It's hard to be obstructionist with the other party in the white house.
There will still be the supine media, and the stupid broderites. But Obama really will be limited by commitment and vision, and not be the Republicans on the Hill.
.My doctor left a message on my voicemail that she's worried about my A1C hemoglobin.
Wiki link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Gly...ated_hemoglobin
I had no idea such a test existed.
When we were "experimenting" with blood pressure meds, my internist clearly was out of his depth -- so I had a stroke, and today I'm on the meds the consulting neurologist put me on in a minute.
They work great, with very few side effects.
Lone survivor of Titanic selling her stuff to pay for her nursing home. She was 9 weeks old when she was on the ship. (She lives in England).
Souvenirs are her settlement checks from White Star.
In 2100 maybe the GOP can auction off their GOP stuff. Mob memorabilia is always hot.
Reading about them, what they are trying to do, and the legal requirements around it, it occurs to me that a great Republican strategy would be to infiltrate them with submitters of bogus registration forms. They have no defense against that.
blerb
Legally, sure there is. Fraud can never be the result of negligence, it requires a showing of intent. ACORN not only did not intend to commit fraud, it flagged the fraud in most, if not all, cases.
There is no liability here, no criminal conspiracy, no crime. What is here is a lot of sound and fury signifying the desperation of the GOP. Oh, and the corruption of the DOJ. And Obama is dealing very effectively with both, and I expect further investigations (as well as an end to such practices) under an Obama administration.
Hey AndyMN! Happy to see you here
My blood glucose is always between 100 and 130.
It's the high side of normal.
On my old medication sometimes it would go down to 70 and that's bad.
:sigh:
It could be just that I've been kinda busy.
Reading about them, what they are trying to do, and the legal requirements around it, it occurs to me that a great Republican strategy would be to infiltrate them with submitters of bogus registration forms. They have no defense against that.
That's one good reason why voter registration is meant to get rid of voters. Voter registration is no more than the 21st century equivalent of a poll tax.
The a1c test is a look back at blood sugar levels over the past 90 days or so.
A republican vegetarian....?
They eat children, don't they?
That's correct jay. Bloggers can get behind Hillary, if she wants it.
My doctor left a message on my voicemail that she's worried about my A1C hemoglobin.
Time for Byetta! (And I'm soooooo sorry she's worried.)
Halloween show?
Gimlet | 10.18.08 - 11:04 am | #
brittish farse - 'see how they run'
McCain giving ugly speech full of lies in Concord, NC; still talking about Joe The Plumber.
Hi Sallyh!
Gotta fill the void of Em being in SF this weekend somehow. 
Auntie GWPDA, I wish I could take some time off. I'd come out and hang with you and Arthur.
oh...misread that.
If I gave you a time and a place, would you agree to fight me?
HA HA | 10.18.08 - 10:59 am | #
Smallfish?
I had no idea such a test existed.
It's a swell test - very accurate. Last time, mine was like 4.5, which is nice. Aim for below (well below) 7.
You've been really stressed from work, as I recall; and that can mess with your a1c.
That's one good reason why voter registration is meant to get rid of voters. Voter registration is no more than the 21st century equivalent of a poll tax.
leibniz leibkins ♘
I wouldn't go that far. It's meant to prevent voter fraud from those who want to vote early and often. Besides, there are age and citizenship restrictions on voting, and registration helps maintain those boundaries.
But like the restrictions on who can get on the ballot, it is easily and often used to determine who is worthy of the franchise.
McCain on Live now.
Screaming about not giving away money to the poor and minorities
and still ranting about Joe the Plumber.
Voter registration is no more than the 21st century equivalent of a poll tax.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 10.18.08 - 11:06 am | #
it's 2008. we should be able to manage voting without preregistering a month in advance.
otoh, i'd hate to see the equiv of the no fly list (no vote list?) - i'm sure that would be the alternative.
McCain's audience, unsurprisingly; is an angry mob.
plantsman, a small, angry mob.
why isn't mccain giving his concession speech?
jayzus, what a scam. What value was provided by AIG in this deal? It received fees (from taxpayers) for selling assets to "investors" who could return the assets and get paid back. All risks were on the public. All costs were on the public. All returns were private.
everyone involved should be shot.
McCain on live assuring everyone that we should have kicked Bush out
of office 4 years ago.
Crowd boooooing George Bush.
You mean Joe whose name isn't Joe the Plumber who isn't a plumber.
Bloggers can get behind Hillary, if she wants it.
I think it would be an inspired choice. She's shown she has a gift for the legislative side.
But, IAC, even if it's still Reid, holding the bully pulpit and both houses with solid majorities (and committees chaired mostly by people from the democratic wing of the party) Obama should be able to do what he wants.
Now, it's a big frickin' mess and may be too much for anyone. But the Republicans are going to be too crushed and scattered to be an effective force of opposition.
A mighty white angry mob--the worst kind.
WI has same-day voter registration. You need to prove you've lived in the district for ten days before the election--examples, drivers license, lease, utility bill or other official government mail to the address you say you live at, or finally, even a friend who will attest you live where you say you live.
It's great.
it's 2008. we should be able to manage voting without preregistering a month in advance.
An administrative issue: how much you wanna pay to make that possible?
One of the allegations against ACORN is that they dump huge stacks of cards on registrars at the 11th hour, making checking of the cards (do you really want to register Mickey Mouse?) impossible.
There are always reasonable as well as physical limits in any system.
it's 2008. we should be able to manage voting without preregistering a month in advance.
There are these computer thingies. And ATMs and such seem to do a fine job of keeping fraud to a minimum.
You mean Joe whose name isn't Joe the Plumber who isn't a plumber.
underwhelm | 10.18.08 - 11:10 am | #
yeah that's him - the undecided independent republican who is voting for mccain.
I had no idea such a test existed.
My company makes a shit load of money from our version of the Ha1C method.
Calibrator (my line of work) is tricky as it is hemolysate based.
McCain bashing this crazy liberal bailout plan that he rushed
to Washington to make sure passed that he hates.
McCain rally attendees:
"Screw the poor, here take my money! More for those who have, nothing for the losers! Make me broke! More wealth to the wealthy! Concentrate! Don't distribute! Concentrate! Don't distribute!"
Former Democrat Voter
Good riddance.
PS--the friend you bring has to be a registered voter.
Dr. J that might be the next step.
The oral medication is not working as it should be.
I'll report back in 6 weeks.
WI has same-day voter registration. You need to prove you've lived in the district for ten days before the election--examples, drivers license, lease, utility bill or other official government mail to the address you say you live at, or finally, even a friend who will attest you live where you say you live.
It's great.
noblejoanie
They obviously don't understand that voter registration is meant to keep certain people from voting.
WI is clearly doing it wrong.
What value was provided by AIG in this deal?
It gave the transit authority an infusion of cash that didn't require taxation. Shit like this happens all the time. Bad policy, more expensive ways of raising revenue than just imposes taxes in the current time period.
McCain will boost the value of your home by paying $1 million for
your neighbor's home.
This week's weekdays were free of a certain Canadian expatriate. It was really nice.
An administrative issue: how much you wanna pay to make that possible?
oh, i was thinking of eliminating registration altogether. but i'm not silly - i know some kind of identification would have to take its place.
papers, please!
CNN talker calling Joe the plumber McCains' new running mate.
aangus, Joe's a celebrity now
McCain bashing this crazy liberal bailout plan that he rushed
to Washington to make sure passed that he hates.
Culture of TrÜth
Walnuts is more and more reminding me of "Scary Jerry" from the great underrated psycho-killer movie "The Stepfather." At the end when his sense of identity completely breaks down he says to himself: "Wait, who am I here?"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094035/
It gave the transit authority an infusion of cash that didn't require taxation. Shit like this happens all the time. Bad policy, more expensive ways of raising revenue than just imposes taxes in the current time period.
jayackroyd | 10.18.08 - 11:13 am | #
But AIG didn't even provide the cash. It was the middleman between the "investors" who still had a money back guarantee from the public and the transit authority.
One of the allegations against ACORN is that they dump huge stacks of cards on registrars at the 11th hour
Well, when is the 11th hour? They have a cut off date to allow for time to process the submissions. If the number of submissions is larger than they expected then perhaps they need to adjust the cut off date or bring on temporary help to process the rush like businesses do.
There is no liability here, no criminal conspiracy, no crime. What is here is a lot of sound and fury signifying the desperation of the GOP.
It's pretty obvious to me they did nothing wrong intentionally, but I'm not so sure that in the strictest de jure sense there was no crime. IOW, there's a problem with the law and not them. They are required by law to submit registration forms they recognize as bogus, and yet the submission of said bogus forms is apparently actionable by the election authorities. Thus, if you really want to fuck them up, all you have to do is go work for them and submit a bunch of bogus forms in a district where there are authorities with the appropriate bias. Seems like a goodfull employment scheme for the Cheetoh brigade.
CNN talker calling Joe the plumber McCains' new running mate.
Yeah.
They didn't bother to vet him either.
what great reporting on cnn - they say that obama claims mccain's health care proposal sucks, then that mccain said obama was lying.
and they left it right there.
wow. they sure are helpful.
{{{Sallyh}}}
McCain rally attendees:
"Screw the poor, here take my money! More for those who have, nothing for the losers! Make me broke! More wealth to the wealthy! Concentrate! Don't distribute! Concentrate! Don't distribute!"
catalexis, CMDR Re-ed Camp #6
I will never understand people who continually vote for the very same folks who keep them poor.
That's why the GOP efforts to fuck up the registration lists in WI before the election will not disenfranchise voters if they're ready to "re-register" when they vote. If they're smart, they'll vote early to avoid any issue and long lines.
Shouldn't happen, of course, but the fight to vote will be waged at every level this election. If anyone thinks we're not in the midst of a civil war in this country, think again.
(The attesting friend I mentioned above does not have to be registered already, but able to register by the more official methods, just to be clear.)
One of the allegations against ACORN is that they dump huge stacks of cards on registrars at the 11th hour
so ... acorn is trying to suppress voters? see, that's what i don't get.
oh, i was thinking of eliminating registration altogether. but i'm not silly - i know some kind of identification would have to take its place.
more and more I favor paper ballots and purple fingers.
All the id stuff, address checking, purging of dead people etc is intended to prevent people from voting more than once. It matters, a little, that you vote where you actually live, but even that is not all that rigid (else we wouldn't have Cheney in office). Paper ballots, and an indelible indicator that you have voted works for me.
I will never understand people who continually vote for the very same folks who keep them poor.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008
Behold the power of non-thinking.
The Christ-centered marriage is one where both husband and wife are united in Christ. A home that is religiously divided will have difficulties. Often there is a tendency for one to compromise Biblical teaching in order to keep peace in the family. The question of what to teach the children becomes a serious problem. Where will the emphasis be in regard to recreation, giving to the Lord's Cause, involvement in church activities. With which parent will children attend worship services? These are but a few of the problems faced by a religiously divided home.
The Corinthian brethren had problems because of religiously mixed marriages. However, both Paul and Peter make it clear that a Christian married to a non-Christian is not a sinful relationship (1 Cor. 7:12-14; 1 Pet. 3:1-6). Yet, keep in mind Jesus' teaching: "A house divided against itself shall not stand" (Matt. 12:25). Jesus also said, "But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you" (Matt. 6:33). In view of these considerations, it is always best for a Christian to marry a Christian!
so ... acorn is trying to suppress voters?
The claim is that acorn is trying to get people onto the rolls multiple times, so they can vote multiple times.
more and more I favor paper ballots and purple fingers.
purple people eaters would not be able to vote.
God Fearing | 10.18.08 - 11:17 am
We had enough of you last night, Brian.
Fuck off.
The claim is that acorn is trying to get people onto the rolls multiple times, so they can vote multiple times.
jayackroyd | 10.18.08 - 11:18 am | #
that to me is a different (or difficult to support) claim. a deluge of forms at the last minute would more likely result in not being able to process them all.
The "11th-hour" complaint is nonsense; the cutoff-dates are the cutoff-dates.
It matters, a little, that you vote where you actually live, but even that is not all that rigid (else we wouldn't have Cheney in office)
well, there are local candidates too.
Look, registration is there to ensure people are citizens (and alive) as well as residents where they say they are (goes to state elections.) I'm not opposed to having registration, just that it is done in a manner that has the least impact the right to vote.
they'll vote early
this is wreaking serious havoc with the republican suppression methods. It's like in Indiana. I hope those nuns who couldn't vote in the primaries because they didn't have ids now have absentee ballots. That's much easier and cheaper than getting them to DMV. No ids required to get an absentee ballot.
Christ...these fucking people are nuts.
Nothing like a shitty GOP candidate to bring all of the loons out of the woodwork.
All this talk about fraudulent voter registration has led me to one conclusion.
The real scam is having a registration deadline at all. It's just a mechanism by which to disenfranchise people.
Same-day registration is okay. Go to vote and prove on the spot that you're eligibile. No muss, no fuss.
Any pre-election deadline simply invites shenanigans. Show up to vote and prove that you proved that you were eligible at some previous date? Stupid.
Yet another reason Minnesota rocks your face. (along with Idaho, Iowa, Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Wyoming and North Dakota in this instance)
Everytime I see that Jim Gerlach ad, I want to puke.
He's a Repig....and NO "Champion for Women's Health."
One of the allegations against ACORN is that they dump huge stacks of cards on registrars at the 11th hour
So fucking what?
Like Dan Quayle said when he was criticized for pulling strings to keep his wuss ass out of Viet Nam: "It was legal."
Stadium Star [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Palin didn't need Greek columns. People react to her because they believe she represents what the Greeks established.
Ass-fucking?
Take care Honeybear
Christ...these fucking people are nuts.
Nothing like a shitty GOP candidate to bring all of the loons out of the woodwork.
AndyMN
They're pathetic.
I WOULD feel pity for themselves, except that they're dangerous.
The AMA is pushing Gordon Smith. It's very hard to take.
Estimates are for higher turnout than 04, maybe 65%. Trying to register all those new voters on election day at the polls would be nearly impossible.
Sorry - I would feel pity for THEM
well, there are local candidates too.
Indeed. And in closely contested local elections this would matter, a lot in a precinct-level race for school board. That's an argument for putting those races into odd numbered years, because the voting management problem is different. It DOES matter where you live for those elections, and there is no real problem with overwhelming turnout.
Stadium Star [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
And SPEAKING of NON-thinking.
Once again:
http://www.censurebachmann.com/
Well, I can't hide out here all day again. I'm out for a while. Have a great day pAtriots.
Terry, I have to confess that in the waning days of this regime, my allotment of pity is in short supply.
A Christ-centered marriage is one that is built on the life and teaching of Jesus. These are but a few of the fundamentals. While we live in a wicked world where the home is under constant attack, Christ furnishes us with ample instruction so that we might overcome the onslaught of Satan. May we study his word diligently and follow it in order to have a Christ-centered marriage.
Lucky me...I live a half-block from my polling station. Basically, I can roll out of bed and stumble up the hill, cast my ballot, and be back in time to walk the dog.
People react to her because they believe she represents what the Greeks established.
Ass-fucking?
Lime Rickey
Sexism.
.The claim is that acorn is trying to get people onto the rolls multiple times, so they can vote multiple times.
jayackroyd
Seems like the number of ballot-stuffers they could recruit times the number of phony votes they each could generate times danger of being exposed works out to a way, way lower rate of return than just obtaining legitimate registrations.
The only reason I haven't killfiled God Fearing is that he's comic relief.
Terry, I have to confess that in the waning days of this regime, my allotment of pity is in short supply.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Oh, I know.
It's hard to feel sorry for people who WANT to be stupid, ignorant and hateful.
And who are PROUD of being that way.
plantsman, i haven't seen a single Smith sign in the Portland area, and none were sighted heading east in the gorge until just after hood river.
Thanks for that link, plantsman. I'll add it to the post I did about her this morning.
that to me is a different (or difficult to support) claim. a deluge of forms at the last minute would more likely result in not being able to process them all.
Yes, that is correct counterargument--plus the deadline one made above by someone else.
Yes, follow the whinings of Paul; control-freak of Christendom.
The only reason I haven't killfiled God Fearing is that he's comic relief.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Hasn't a clue as to what he's talking about.
Yes, follow the whinings of Paul; control-freak of Christendom.
plantsman
Fucker hated everyone...particularly women.
The real scam is having a registration deadline at all. It's just a mechanism by which to disenfranchise people.
it really isn't that hard to beat the deadline.
if the nation as a whole really wanted to register everyone, it could be made a lot easier and more efficient. voter registration could be part of every driver's license change of address, every lease, every home purchase, graduating high school, etc. yes, some would not fit in any category and would need a special effort, but with a national system that kicks in at related life events, it could be statistically a non-issue.
Dr. J that might be the next step. The oral medication is not working as it should be. I'll report back in 6 weeks.
You'll love it! It works so well it'll change your life completely. No kidding - you will be crazy about it. (Did I mention that I've now lost 95% of the weight that the wonky endocrine system put on?)
Trying to register all those new voters on election day at the polls would be nearly impossible.
Minnesota will do it, they've been doing it for over 30 years. Our turnout hovers in the 70–80% range.
Same-day registration takes a trivial amount of effort and time more than identifying a voter who has pre-registered.
Terry, that's what makes him so amusing. The fact that all he has is his latex love doll makes his comments on marriage all the more entertaining
vote by mail is the way to go.
Oregon gets 70%
Double-voting could easily be eliminated simply by having everybody put their thumbprint on the ballot.
I wish I was in AZ with Auntie GWPDA. I could really stand to catch a break.
Arthur would allow me to pet him, wouldn't he?
it really isn't that hard to beat the deadline.
The problem is when someone beats the deadline for you by inappropriately culling you, and then you find out after the deadline. When the deadline is election day, that risk is eliminated and at no real cost.
Do keep in mind that they know their claims to be false, and and simply serve as distractions. The idea is to cast doubt on the results, not actually demonstrate any fraud. They've already been shown to be incapable of doing that.
Having THE FBI investigating FRAUD at ACORN is not intended to get convictions. In fact, I think the early voting has forced them to pull this stuff too early. there are enough news cycles to debunk the claims.
but i'm not nearly so concerned with registration as with registered voters actually getting to vote and having that vote counted correctly.
Terry, that's what makes him so amusing. The fact that all he has is his latex love doll makes his comments on marriage all the more entertaining
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
He cracked me up the other day with the submissive women/subservient women thing.
I would like him to explain about Palin, Bachmann and all the other right wing harpies not being home in the kitchen.
I love vote-by-mail. Plenty of time to vote thoughtfully and knowledgeably.
Same-day registration takes a trivial amount of effort and time more than identifying a voter who has pre-registered.
underwhelm
Depends on how voter friendly the state is. Here and where you are, you register and get your ballot, other states, you stand in one line to register than a second to get to vote.
Double-voting could easily be eliminated simply by having everybody put their thumbprint on the ballot.
No identifying information on secret ballots, please.
There's a reason you sign the roll, and then step into the booth, and you don't sign your ballot.
I love voting. I hate CA's proposition system.
Minnesota will do it, they've been doing it for over 30 years. Our turnout hovers in the 70–80% range.
yeah, but no one lives in minnesota.
[ducks]
That would be "then" a second line...
Voting could take place over a three day period. There's more people now than when George Washington bribed the voters with free whiskey.
Yes, Sallyh, unless it was thunder-and-lightning; then, Arthur gets wiggy.
owls!!!!!!
big brother ain't gonna get my print. no way
I would like him to explain about Palin, Bachmann and all the other right wing harpies not being home in the kitchen.
He'd just say that they have "a special mission fron God."
.There's a reason you sign the roll, and then step into the booth, and you don't sign your ballot.
jayackroyd
Oops, I mean the voter roll.
Voting could take place over a three day period. There's more people now than when George Washington bribed the voters with free whiskey.
Lime Ricke
Can you imagine how hysterical the talkingheads would be by the end of three days, especially if they had to wait until the close of voting to make a prediction?
yeah, but no one lives in minnesota.
We don't so much "live" here as we just "exist". Common misconception about our great state.
"The Corinthian brethren had problems because of religiously mixed marriages. "
What? News to me. Why didn't this story appear in the NYT? Oprah?
He'd just say that they have "a special mission fron God."
aangus: This space for hire
What is why he can take his fundie crap and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
"The Corinthian brethren had problems because of religiously mixed marriages. "
They need DOCTOR PHIL!!!!!!
blerb--
That's what the sig is for. More easily reviewed biometric information.
Fri Oct 17, 2008 at 10:43:35 AM PDT
Research 2000 for Daily Kos. 10/14-15. Likely voters. MoE 4% (9/16-17 results)
McCain (R) 45 (53)
Obama (D) 45 (40)
It looks like the nation's economic woes have dragged this state back into a tie, after seemingly out of reach for Obama. This confirms two recent polls showing the race neck-and-neck.
Let's be honest here -- this isn't a state we need to win. Its 3 electoral votes won't make much a difference to Obama's chances of victory. It's mathematically irrelevant.
But politically, it would be HUGE. This is a state Bush won by 28 points in 2004. Obama would expand the Democratic map, earning a national mandate by winning in every region of the country. And it would show Republicans that they aren't safe anywhere, not even in their supposed "strongholds".
not just LA, dude.
Chicago is going to see an increase in rates and possibly service reductions.
This is only a year after we finally started to reform the funding mechanism for public transit in the Chicago region.
Governor Rod keeps making things tougher by giving away free rides to various groups, like senior citizens, even though there was absolutely NO pressure to add free rides.
All seniors get free rides, no income test or anything. Which is stupid when you have a 65 year old investment banker commuting back and forth each day from a rich suburb downtown.
Low income seniors already had reduced or free rides, so this primarily benefits seniors who are doing well, while ignoring people who may need additional transit assistance (single mothers, for instance)
Couldn't the MTA issue municipal bonds to re-fund this?
The leaseback deals were economically unsound in any case.
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