I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
aha
You only hear the bad things about pornography!
I think you mean "I'm NOT saying there aren't genuine issues here, but they're more . . ."
Atrios trying to attract casual RSS readers again I see.
NYPD Blue from 2003? Sheesh...
I'm willing to support a fine for showing anything on Dennis Franz's body...
Nudity is pornography!
It's worse than dissenters burning flags, and draconian legislation must be passed to suppress and criminalize both activities.
It's a bipartisan issue that will unite right-thinking citizens on both ends of the political spectrum.
Teens get naked and have sex with each other.
BUT THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENIGN !!!!!!111!!!!11?!!!111*2082483394r5hbgkxjz
They didn't call it NYPD butt for nothing.
The agency rejected the network's argument that "the buttocks are not a sexual organ."
Okay, that's hysterical.
"Buttocks are Not a Sexual Organ" would be a fine name for a band.
Since when can the police search your possessions to prove that you don't have any porn?
Harvey Keitel's buttocks are obscene.
The agency said the show was indecent because "it depicts sexual organs and excretory organs , specifically an adult woman's buttocks."
Get yer ass outta my face.
FCC buttock sex. eeewwwww.
It is a tough world to grow up in, where every dumbass thing you do has the potential of being seen by a sizeable fraction fo the Human race.
There are some 1960s polaroids of some teen sexual organs under the floorboards of a house I grew up in.
specifically an adult woman's buttocks.
Buttocks are not an "organ." They are a cushion.
Gravatar"Buttocks are Not a Sexual Organ" would be a fine name for a band.
I hear it more as an album title.
It is a tough world to grow up in, where every dumbass thing you do has the potential of being seen by a sizeable fraction fo the Human race.
blerb
Welcome to the Panopticon.
CNN is so pissing me off with this:
Obama's legitimacy on line in South Carolina
Sen. Barack Obama is facing a crucial test of support within the Democratic Party, as polls opened today in a race in which more than half the voters are expected to be African-American.
They're just getting around to this NOW? From 2003?
Oy.
Laterz. Gym, then hospital.
The agency rejected the network's argument that "the buttocks are not a sexual organ."
Okay, that's hysterical.
sdf (
Dude, we're talking about Republicans here.
Buttocks sue as hell ain't an excretory organ, unless somebody tore you a new one.
I posted the "NYPD Blue" - buttocks story down thread!!!
I really need to get a blog.
A good friend is representing a woman who, alas, exchanged her phone for a new one without erasing the video that had been taken of her having sex with her boyfriend. Store clerk (don't remember if it was AT&T, Verizon, or what) discovered this when erasing the phone's memory, emailed it ot dozens of people, who then, of course, emailed it to dozens mroe each. She is currently suing the company (after very detailed discussions about whether the process of discovery, etc., would make things much much worse for her).
.Laterz. Gym, then hospital.
watertiger
Best wishes.
Why does god hate humanity to create us in such a dirty disgusting nude form?
"Buttocks are Not a Sexual Organ" would be a fine name for a band.
I hear it more as an album title.
I would like to see it posted on one of those church yard weekly message boards.
Buttocks are not an "organ." They are a cushion.
Some are more cushiony than others.
Hello again.
Qand a random thought - is the body model woman in question going to start including this in her curriculum vitae? "Court proven to have a $1.4 million ass" is a hell of a selling point........
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Um, the buttocks are not an excretory organ. They are muscles. Long twitch, I believe.
.She is currently suing the company (after very detailed discussions about whether the process of discovery, etc., would make things much much worse for her).
I bet it's on YouPorn right now.
another day and more stuff too stupid to fathom - this is the suckiest century ever - someone wants to call it the naughty aughties - google that stupidity if you don't believe me -
I'd have 7 kinds of a heart-attack if that was y girl in any of those pics but it wouldn't be pornography it woud be stupidity...
We need to have a long public discussion of how we as a nation are going to define the buttocks.
Buttocks are not an "organ." They are a cushion.
Some are more cushiony than others.
Molly Ivors
[David St. Hubbins]
The Bigger The Cushion
The Sweeter The Pushin'
Or So I Have Read . . .
[/David St. Hubbins]
"OUR THRUST has been to get the kids to come forward and we've indicated we will not charge them for possessing the images,"
The buttocks are a sexual organ?
Hmmmm. Conservative science.
I had a student who went to Africa, and on coming back gave me a delightful picture of the rear end of a bird. But buttocks on a bird? Absurd!
Don't the state police have better things to do than hunt down pictures of teen boobies?
I bet it's on YouPorn right now.
blerb,
Undoubtedly or one of the other half-dozen such sites.
"OUR THRUST has been to get the kids to come forward and we've indicated we will not charge them for possessing the images,"
Stop making teens curious about sex!
And choose your words more carefully, Thrusty the Clown.
The information age in geneal is going to be a real hassle for the panty-sniffing gerontocracy. You cannot put this shit back in the bottle.
I was thinking last night that Washington, D.C., has become one big Jesus Camp.
It's disgusting.
The Federal Communications Commission categorize buttocks as a sexual organ in accordance with the penumbra theory, i.e. that buttocks are in the penumbra of a sexual organ, and are properly subjected to censorship.
They'll aggressively oppose close-ups of the perineum for the same reason.
But remember-- when buttocks are outlawed, only outlaws will have buttocks.
"A couple kids got these images, didn't much want them, didn't quite know what to do with them once they were received, and they were brought to the attention of the school resource officer," Martin said.
Oh, I'm quite sure the poor little darlings were just shocked. And had no idea how to make the nasty images go away.
And then went back to playing GTA.
"Nude buttocks",... there I said it.
Soooooooooooo..... If bottoms are now considered 'sexual organ(s)', what kind of penalty do we charge for showing THIS!
I was thinking last night that Washington, D.C., has become one big Jesus Camp.
It's disgusting.
pie | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:59 am | #
The solution is obvious. The Democratic candidates have to pander to people of faith more.
I had a student who went to Africa, and on coming back gave me a delightful picture of the rear end of a bird. But buttocks on a bird? Absurd!
I think woot has a new calling: boobies and buttocks.
I read the buttocks were an excratory organ and that's why there has to be a punishment??? my cheeks are an organ? stupid stupid century - maybe the repkkkes are right about evolution - we're going backwards at remarkable speed
But what about those Fine New York Boobies?!?!
If bottoms are now considered 'sexual organ(s)', what kind of penalty do we charge for showing THIS!
GWPDA
No Republican knows what that is - I think we're safe.
speaking of buttocks, I had better get off mine and get some work done
have a great day folks
don't trip on the stupidity out there
You're the one projecting all your old man filters onto her.
NTodd, Self-proclaimed Indy | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:51 am | #
BTW -- that was beyond the pale.
steve simels | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:58 am | #
No, it wasn't, steve. Your constant attacks on That Woman are. Sorry, but your sexism is showing through with almost every comment.
If the government has categorized the buttocks as a sex organ, does that mean the government has legitimized the anal?
"Our thrust has been to get the kids to come forward and we've indicated we will not charge them for possessing the images," Martin told The Associated Press. "I'm not sure what we're going to do with the participants at this point."
Doesn't your use of the word "thrust" kinda tell us where you're coming from?
Oh, I'm quite sure the poor little darlings were just shocked. And had no idea how to make the nasty images go away.
Many teenage girls don't read Hustler.
The Federal Communications Commission categorize buttocks as a sexual organ in accordance with the penumbra theory, i.e. that buttocks are in the penumbra of a sexual organ, and are properly subjected to censorship.
There is more than one dissertation waiting to be written, if they have not been already, about how these folks develop their formulations.
Don't the state police have better things to do than hunt down pictures of teen boobies?
the necessity of stopping it requires them to spend hours staring at it.
Strangely enough, very much like how the fundy campaign to pray away the gaii requires them to spend many many hours thinking about Teh Gaii in obsessive, sweaty detail.
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"Buttocks are Not a Sexual Organ"
but it really doesn't matter in the end
Okay, who said samprini?
No, it wasn't, steve. Your constant attacks on That Woman are. Sorry, but your sexism is showing through with almost every comment.
NTodd
What's wrong wif bein' sexy?
Fear the buttocks. They are the real reason Rome fell. It could spell the end of the American Empire!!!!!
Oh, it was a woman's butt?
Jeez, that makes a difference.
The information age in geneal is going to be a real hassle for the panty-sniffing gerontocracy. You cannot put this shit back in the bottle.
blerb, reefer mad
this is also the age of disinformation - and the stupidest drivel ever is believed by many without anything more than annecdotes as proof
I gotta wonder, if the result of such shenanigans were as negative for the males involved, would their friends be distributing it?
Cue Hecate...
I gotta wonder, if the result of such shenanigans were as negative for the males involved, would their friends be distributing it?
Cue Hecate...
JR
Dude, you know the rules.
1. All males must seek out as many female sexual partners as possible.
2. All females must remain totally chaste.
Pictures of Rudy Giuliani's buttocks could scare aware evil islamofascists better than anything!
but it really doesn't matter in the end
1. All males must seek out as many female sexual partners as possible.
2. All females must remain totally chaste.
jac
I've never been big on rules.
Don't fear the buttocks
Baby take my hand
Don't fear the buttocks
Baby I'm your man...
I was thinking last night that Washington, D.C., has become one big Jesus Camp.
It's disgusting.
pie
When I listened to Hillary interviewed on News n' Notes yesterday, she mentioned God and/or the church like a dozen times in 2-3 minutes. I felt like a chick that had been stuffed with worms.
Don't forget - girls have to be protected, their whole lives, every step of the way - by the big, brave, strong men in charge of things. So, it's okay. Honest.
Heh. LTE in the Strib today:
Thank goodness Congress and the president could agree so quickly to borrow $1,200 from overseas investors and hand it to my wife and me so we can buy something imported from China. Our economy is saved.
MIKE SUPINA, EAGAN
Ho Ho Ho.
What about Howard Stern's cellulite cheeks at the MTV music awards?
You know, the bright side of this panopticon may just be that this generation of Americans might not be as uptight about sex as were the last ten.
Church sign for leibniz.
When will our long national nightmare of buttocks finally be over?
Ho Ho Ho.
pie
What's Britney Spears got to do with it?
Heh. LTE in the Strib today:
Poifect.
Don't forget - girls have to be protected, their whole lives, every step of the way - by the big, brave, strong men in charge of things. So, it's okay. Honest.
Which is why a woman can never be president.
Don't forget - girls have to be protected, their whole lives, every step of the way - by the big, brave, strong men in charge of things. So, it's okay. Honest.
GWPDA
I think that there's a difference between not exposing a 12 year old girl to hard core porn and "protecting every step of the way"
NYPD Blue from 2003? I didn't recall it was still on then....
But, what about the guy's buttocks? Isn't that worse, I mean the actor was overweight....
This is so absurd I can't believe. It's freakin' 2008, FCC guys! Statue of limitations or something.
Butt out.
You know, the bright side of this panopticon may just be that this generation of Americans might not be as uptight about sex as were the last ten.
Halfdan
I have mixed feelings.
Back in my day I didn't know a single girl whose main carreer goal was to be a porn star. They wanted to be artists or scientists or shit like that.
This crap looks like more exploitation, not freedom.
V4V- heh!
I mean if the anus was visible I'd understand - was the anus visible...? (ducks, then runs)
Hey Jay Rosen, you are brilliant, but the simple answer seems to evade you at times. "Breaking news" drives everything.
The real horse race is there.
We really have some issues with nudity, don't we?
I think that there's a difference between not exposing a 12 year old girl to hard core porn
When were you first exposed to hard core porn?
1. All males must seek out as many female sexual partners as possible.
2. All females must remain totally chaste.
jac
This, alas, is the sociobiology of sex in a nutshell. Females have a much larger physical invesment in the process of reproduction than males do. They can also only reproduce at the rate of about once per year. Males, OTOH, invest only a tablespoon of splooge in the process, and can do it as many times as they are capable of having an orgasm. With those ground rules in operation, some version of this tension will exist for a very long time.
At the risk of engorging the U of Chicago's admissions even more than the 40% they seem to have jumped this year, I should tell the few 17 year olds reading this blog that there is a long tradition of nudity at the otherwise staid U of C.
In the 1970's there existed a thing called the Lascivious Ball, in which the ticket price was determined by the degree to which you were clothed. If you were starkers, you got in free. Last weekend (I was in Baltimore) there was a Polar Bear Run, typically a group streak (though everyone wears shoes, and quite a few wear bikinis or bathing suits. This has been going on for years, and nobody bats an eye. [Last Saturday it was like 4 degrees F. Brave kids.] And in the past few years, there has been a College sponsored erotic magazine (in fact this seems to be a trend; several colleges have them.)
This ain't your grandmamma's University of Chicago, nor Miltie Friedman's neither.
At the same time, ABC is the same network that aired that bullshit 9/11 movie back in 2006.
A state trooper was sent to the school Thursday and will return for two more days to ensure that images were erased from the cell phones of students whose parents got letters from prosecutors.
So they're going to go to everyone's home and check their home computers, too?
Buttocks are not sexual organs. Thong bikinis show buttocks.
What's the problem? The contiguous territory?
NYPD Blue from 2003? I didn't recall it was still on then....
I remember male buttocks being shown on NYPD Blue. Were they fined for that episode?
When were you first exposed to hard core porn?
Well, I had older brothers. I think I found their mags when I was 6 or 7.
I don't need anything
Except for these buttocks....
This crap looks like more exploitation, not freedom.
JR, kerosene and a match
people have been talked into winking at porn - "Everyone watches it."
we are devo... D-E-V-O
At the same time, ABC is the same network that aired that bullshit 9/11 movie back in 2006.
Diznee's got such high standards, and all.
No, it wasn't, steve. Your constant attacks on That Woman are. Sorry, but your sexism is showing through with almost every comment.
NTodd
Right. Raising alarums about the possible problems of an administration -- the first in fucking American history-- in which the president is married to an ex-president is sexist.
This ain't your grandmamma's University of Chicago, nor Miltie Friedman's neither.
Well, he did let Ayn Rand sit on his face.
Radical Cleric Mike Huckabee: If you get a foot on dry soil, you ought to be able to come here.*
*Offer only valid in Cuba. Some restrictions apply.
I'm just waiting for the butt thread to be over. Fascinating as it is
At the same time, ABC is the same network that aired that bullshit 9/11 movie back in 2006.
Sex bad.
Violence good.
Lies best.
Yr Murikan media atwork.
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I remember male buttocks being shown on NYPD Blue. Were they fined for that episode?
pie
Dennis Franz' ugly ass was broadcast during the evil KKKlintoon Administration, when abortion parties were required and Demoncraps ruled the FCC.
Over there sheets.
When were you first exposed to hard core porn?
Halfdan
Does full penetration count if it's your neighbour's dogs?
I led a sheltered life as far as commercially produced porn was concerned. But I was not ignorant of what was what.
There's a difference.
True story.
When my father in law died, we went out for the funeral. My mother in law wanted to give away his clothes and such to charity except for a few things as mementos.
Then she grabbed his porn stash, and asked me if I wanted my father in law's old porn magazines.
I politely declined.
NEWSCo.
and Demoncraps ruled the FCC.
We ned to get rid of the Repub asshats who are running things now.
Kids have sex, kids have cameras, and kids understand that their sexuality (and that of their peers) is a monetizable asset. Thirty million teenagers holding the most valuable commodity in a ten billion dollar industry with no barriers to entry, the production tools in their pockets, the distribution tools on their desktops, and no skill required? Good luck trying to keep the lid on that combination with a few quaint Capone-era kiddie porn laws.
I remember male buttocks being shown on NYPD Blue. Were they fined for that episode?
No. They were very . . . cutting edge with the portrayal of butts. Franz was only remarkable because he is not considered the epitome of the male form.
The FCC might find itself in agreement with those societies that require full coverage of the female form, including the open weave thing over the eyes.
Hey, the eyes are connected to the nose bone, and the nose bone's connected to the jaw bone--OMG! You do see where this can lead us?
.I think that there's a difference between not exposing a 12 year old girl to hard core porn and "protecting every step of the way"
JR, kerosene and a match
You mean protecting her from having someone tie her up, clamp open her eyelids Malcolm McDowell-style, and force her to look at it?
Or protecting her from stumbling across it in her electronic peregrinations and having her fragile eggshell mind permanently marred by it, after she spends a few minutes avidly peering at every image?
"you only have one crack Frank"
"all I need sir"
Back in my day I didn't know a single girl whose main carreer goal was to be a porn star.
And you know some now? I'm not saying I necessarily approve of media-fueled hypersexuality among teens. And I don't think it should be legal to distribute sexual images of a person without his or her consent.
But I also don't think that parents have "lost control" of their children to evil forces in popular culture.
I tried to protect my girls from hard core porn for a long time. Even got rid of HBO for a number of years. Don't know if I was entirely successful. More than the porn, I just didn't like that women are almost always portrayed as victims or objects. Absolutely the opposite of what I was trying to instill.
"I think that there's a difference between not exposing a 12 year old
girl to hard core porn and "protecting every step of the way""
I'd like to think the difference was obvious but it seldom is....
I'm thinking of porn star as a retirement job. 
oh, are we done
It is so nice to live in Europe where a bare breast or a dirty word doesn't set off a witch hunt.
No, it wasn't, steve. Your constant attacks on That Woman are. Sorry, but your sexism is showing through with almost every comment.
NTodd
Right. Raising alarums about the possible problems of an administration -- the first in fucking American history-- in which the president is married to an ex-president is sexist.
And now since we seem to be crossing the line into personal insult shit, I'm shutting up.
If buttocks are sexual organs, than so are mouths and hands.
The FCC may be forgiven for not knowing their asses from a hole in the ground. After all, they're mostly Republicans.
Police time was wasted on that episode.
A cell phone shot of a breast.
I've felt for a long while that the nation has gone mad but this is a whole new level of madness.
This is a symptom of not gonna recover ever.
Our version of the FCC did the same thing over here.
Several of our teenagers were sending around camera photos without the veils covering their lower face.
What a scandal! I just don't know what's going to become of our country when that generation grows up.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/2...7cf4&ei=5087%
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Bob Herbert blames the Clintons for the issue of race being injected into the primary camapign.
Interstingly, he made no mention whatsoever of how the MCM has been flogging the idea of division within the Democratic Party.
Oh, yes. Via Karin's post below (the Herbert link).
BTW, on KO last night one of our allies (I think) has sentenced a graducate student to death for downloading something perceived as "un-Islamic."
Anyone have details on that?
In a related story, Randall "Tex" Cobb got his college degree. Good job, Tex.
The stupid, it BUUUURRRRRNNNNNSSSSS
1.4 million? and I thought buying a girl dinner to get some ass was expensive! That must be one nice ass.
This is called criminalizing stupid.
Note: the school administration didn't have to get involved in this at all. The photographs were not taken at school, during school hours or with school equipment. The administration can use the episode as a teachable moment, but they are overstepping if they make it a school discipline issue.
Buttocks? There obviously is some kind of double standard here. How many times have we seen guy's buttocks displayed in comedies on the main networks, much less on NYPD Blue itself?
Since its a woman, I think that's the issue. Obviously some of the men and women on this board view the buttocks of a woman as a sexual orifice... now why would THAT be?
Backdoor Republicans... outing themselves one civil board at a time.
Better not allow kids to visit any art museums either! They're just FULL of depictions of nekkid people.
Do 2 years olds have the right to free speech or movement or assembly?
Not according to most parents.
Anyone have details on that?
jawbone
Apparently is a showpiece move to pressure his brother, who is causing them some discomfort. The judge in the case basically said, "well, that's what I have to do by law, but it won't survive the mandatory three appeals".
"The FCC has proposed a $1.4 million fine against 52 ABC Television Network stations over a 2003 broadcast of the police drama in which a woman's nude buttocks was shown."
This is the party of limited government.
Boobies ARE Pornographic because Mom never breastfed me.
In the philly dot com story about a woman's butt, check out the accompanying picture -- while some dimwit woman is speaking from a podium, the men next to her are watching "porn". I say "porn" because obviously these folks consider anything related in any way to looking at or touching or thinking about body parts is pornography.
The only reason these people have "meetings" is so they can get together to see what's new in nasty visual presentations.
Are buttocks even an excretory organ? I thought they leg muscles.
I live in the Allentown Area. Big story here. The students at this high school are from the most affluent demographic in our part of PA. The Parkland school district was carved off of the side of Allentown for the wealthy white folk who didn't want their kids mixing with blacks and latinos - this school has everything and then some. Otherwise, Allentown schools are shamefully decrepit. Pretty funny stuff indeed.
It is off subject, but, on the first link, you can link to another article about Tex Cobb, a boxer and actor, who just graduated from Temple. It is fun and funny.
Our child pornography laws are plain screwed up in this country. First of all, in about half the states, the age of sexual consent is 16. But yet if you take a picture of yourself naked in these states while 16 or 17 or possess such an image than you can go to prison??? I'm not saying that I necessarily want to lower the age to 16 across the board, go ahead, make it 18, but at least have it the same in every state so everyone knows the law and follows the same law.
stupid doesn't even begin to cover that FCC thing against NYPD Blue.
I think *insanity* is more like the right word.
These idiot mofos can't be booted out of office soon enough. This whole thing is caused by Shrub's appointments. The new Prez, if a dem, is going to have a real job in his or her hands rooting out all these shrub appointments.
I like the final line: "About 3,200 students are enrolled at Parkland, a perennial football powerhouse that draws students from three largely wealthy townships outside Allentown."
Yeah... so the author of the article is a football fan. We care... why?
Boobies!
Just a trip down memory lane, folks...
Martin, the hardcore Republicon head of the FCC, is an obscene sexual organ...and should be fined accordingly...everytime he shows his face in public...because he's such a dickhead.
For a second I thought the birds were fundie Huckabee supporters.
The more some thing is forbidden the more the monkeys are going to want it.
Stop forbiding it and soon enough no one will care.
I have dibs on "Naked Butts and Naked Teens" as a band name, as such or any other recognisable combination of those words for now and in perpetuity.
Mr. mag and I have two daughters. While we tried to gate-keep their exposure to nudity in film when they were pre-teens, this was his theory: he'd rather they stumble on some nudity or PG-movie sex than a horror film with someone being dismembered by an axe or chainsaw. After all, although we won't want the details, we hope they do have sex someday. As for the murder/slashing... not so much.
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