Jesse Helms, Conservative Force in the Senate, Dies at 86
J.Scott Applewhite/Associated Press
Senator Jesse Helms on Capitol Hill in 1982.
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- Former Sen. Jesse Helms, who served 30 years in Congress, died on the Fourth of July, the Jesse Helms research center says. He was 86.
Pam |
07.04.08 - 11:30 am | #
liars make bad leaders.
stop telco immunity, expose the BUSH crimes.
euros/dollars.
I wonder where the bottom of this downturn is?
peterboy |
07.04.08 - 11:30 am | #
Hi, Trademark Dave!
Your selections are eerily similar to the tunes I have on my computer...
Thanks for the list (last thread, if you didn't see them.) 'Course, I'd have added the live "I'm on fire" from the Springsteen boxed set...
America is nothing if not the country of those who long for better...
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.04.08 - 11:30 am | #
The world is somehow less crochety today.
Gomez |
07.04.08 - 11:30 am | #
I wonder what they study at the Helms research center?
peterboy |
07.04.08 - 11:30 am | #
I wonder what they study at the Helms research center?
peterboy
Bourbon and Branch.
Gomez |
07.04.08 - 11:31 am | #
I wonder what they study at the Helms research center?
peterboy
Racism, tobacco addiction, lying, the usual Republican virtues...
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.04.08 - 11:31 am | #
helms was right there at the beginning of the attempt to get back to the good old days before the civil war...
singe |
07.04.08 - 11:32 am | #
I thought Old Hickory did away with most of the Semolians.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.04.08 - 11:33 am | #
"Somewhere....over the rainbowwww..."
Gomez |
07.04.08 - 11:33 am | #
How do you say "Heckuva job, George" in Flemish?
watertiger |
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07.04.08 - 11:33 am | #
Looks like America is a world leader once again. Too bad it's in failure.
Larry craig |
07.04.08 - 11:33 am | #
So I wonder - was the Help America Vote Act orginally called Help America Vote On Computers?
George Johnston |
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07.04.08 - 11:33 am | #
The world is somehow less crochety today.
Yes, but are your nipples still hard at the prospect of McCain visiting your burg?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.04.08 - 11:33 am | #
How nice of Chimpy to share our economic meltdown with everyone.
Libby |
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07.04.08 - 11:34 am | #
ok, this is getting silly.
cnn is doing a report on the hot dog eating contest. apparently, there is an "american" contender who might win.
so they show the clip of michelle obama saying "for the first time i am proud of my country" and then cut to a guy saying he thinks she was talking about the hot dog contest.
i hate being so cynical, but i can't help it.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 11:34 am | #
Topics of Research at the Jesse Helms Research Center
Do Bucks really have bigger dicks?
Do negras really scream and gyrate faster than white wimmin?
Do n's really just need loose shoes, tight pussy, and warm place to shit?
Why did god make white people so perfect and Negroes so inferior?
How can we bring back the poll taxes?
How can we get the Klan recognized as a legitimate 501(C)3 Charity?
DWD - S☮S | Homepage | 07.04.08 - 11:21 am | #
DWD - S☮S |
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07.04.08 - 11:34 am | #
Thanks, Dumbya. The ChiComs and Rooskies have really benefited from your reign.
Lime Rickey |
07.04.08 - 11:35 am | #
Actually I meant crotchety.
Gomez |
07.04.08 - 11:35 am | #
UBS has lost $30 billion, which is the worst amongst European banks I beleve.
Phil Gramm, the GOPer fuck who helped make big shitpile possible through deregulation, is a vice chairman.
He's also a McCain economic advisor.
Richard |
07.04.08 - 11:36 am | #
DWD-
You left out:
"Is lynching cruel and unusual punishment"
"Isn't Strom Thurmond's illegitimate daughter better off because she has white blood"
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.04.08 - 11:37 am | #
Idle thought: the Gooper mantra for "more wealth to the wealthiest" is "a rising tide lifts all boats".
Did they consider the corollary, that an ebbing tide grounds all those boats?
What am i saying? Of course they didn't. People with the capability for long-term thinking don't enter a life of crime.
Quit apologizing, Democrats! Rethugs NEVER apologize.
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:39 am | #
If they were corndogs, Hindrocket would be a lock.
Mark B. from Austin TX
DON'T MOCK CORNDOGS, TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER!
Rmj, Back from Beyond |
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07.04.08 - 11:39 am | #
I don't know how to react when evil people die. I suppose the world is a little better off, but he's been too ill to do much damage for several years now.
Mark B. from Austin TX |
07.04.08 - 11:39 am | #
Weather is fine, wish you were here!!
Jesse Helms |
07.04.08 - 11:39 am | #
cnn is doing a report on the hot dog eating contest. apparently, there is an "american" contender who might win.
so they show the clip of michelle obama saying "for the first time i am proud of my country" and then cut to a guy saying he thinks she was talking about the hot dog contest.
i hate being so cynical, but i can't help it.
My father used to say "Dammit, I'm not mad that you lie to me. I'm mad that you think I'm dumb enough to believe it!"
Heard the happy talking "experts" on the radio yesterday finally admit we're in a recession. But they are convinced that it will be a mild one. One claimed the fact it took so long for the US economy to go bad shows how resilient it is.
Aren't teh Semolians a tribe in Florida
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 11:42 am | #
i hope helms gets into heaven. 'coz i never want to see him again.
Hon-neee, as IF.
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:42 am | #
Pleasure craft builders are in bad shape.
Lime Rickey
Oh, yeah.
I live close enough to Lake Michigan that I can hear the boats in the summer. Except this summer - very very few boats.
DWD - S☮S |
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07.04.08 - 11:42 am | #
Gal about town like you doesn't have an English/Phlegmatic dictionary?
[looks through books on shelves...]
No. I've got an English/Plasmatics dictionary, but not the other.
Bad times is when the wealthiest get wealthier at slightly slower pace than they did previously.
catalexis |
07.04.08 - 11:43 am | #
I've been listening to NBC News in the background for the past hour, and haven't heard Jesse Helms death reported once. Yet we were repeatedly blasted with the news of Kennedy's illness. No media bias there.
Helms was a towering figure. The defeat of Soviet communism and the rise of Ronald Reagan would not have happened without his leadership at decisive times.
And he dies on the Fourth of July, as did John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.
It is fitting. For true defenders of the Constitution, the Fourth of July IS a good day to die...
Texaschilibean |
07.04.08 - 11:43 am | #
olexicon owes me some florida oj!
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.04.08 - 11:43 am | #
How do you say "Heckuva job, George" in Flemish?
Something gutterral, no doubt.
Damn Phlegms.
The economy is so bad I saw someone hock a lugie.
George Johnston |
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07.04.08 - 11:43 am | #
I've got an English/Plasmatics dictionary
Never lend out books.
Wendy O Williams |
07.04.08 - 11:44 am | #
I've got an English/Plasmatics dictionary, but not the other.
What are words for if no one listens any more? God I'm old.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
07.04.08 - 11:44 am | #
I think Jesse declined rapidly after they fixed his broken heart a few years ago.
Gimlet |
07.04.08 - 11:44 am | #
It is fitting. For true defenders of the Constitution, the Fourth of July IS a good day to die...
Texaschilibean | 07.04.08 - 11:43 am | #
so was sauron.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 11:44 am | #
annnnnnnd..... suddenly there's a big pile of horseshit in the room.
virgotex |
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07.04.08 - 11:44 am | #
Heard the happy talking "experts" on the radio yesterday finally admit we're in a recession. But they are convinced that it will be a mild one. One claimed the fact it took so long for the US economy to go bad shows how resilient it is.
Baghdad Bob said that the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard was pushing the American forces back into the sea on all fronts.
Can you believe that he was laughed at in 2003? Today his brand of infoprop is the industry standard, just 5 years later.
Some of President Bush's allies tell the Political Bulletin they are embarrassed and angry that the White House seems to be wasting Bush's time on frivolous events when much of the country is suffering through economic hard times. "Look at the schedule for Monday," says an outside Bush adviser. "A highlight of his day was witnessing a tee ball game. ... He is being reduced to child's play." The adviser says Bush also signed a supplemental appropriations bill for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on Monday, but he adds that it didn't get much coverage and that the tee ball game set the wrong tone. There is growing concern among Bush allies that the Democrats will effectively portray the President and GOP candidate John McCain as out of touch. Some GOP insiders now predict that the Republicans will lose at least five seats in the Senate and 15 to 20 in the House, and it could get worse if gasoline prices continue to soar and the public remains in a disgruntled mood.
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:45 am | #
wow, thatis some genu9ine counry-fired nutziness comapring Jesse Helms, a Demagogue to John Adams, A statesman
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 11:45 am | #
How do you say "Heckuva job, George" in Flemish?
"This recession is putting a dent in my walloon"?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.04.08 - 11:45 am | #
It is fitting. For true defenders of the Constitution, the Fourth of July IS a good day to die...
Texaschilibean
Well, whatcha waitin' for, fuckface?
FireFox |
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07.04.08 - 11:45 am | #
Pleasure craft builders are in bad shape.
Lime Rickey | 07.04.08 - 11:41 am | #
it's spelled pleasure craft builder, but it's pronounced mr. luxury yacht.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Due to the high price of oil, the gasoline and diesel engines are being replaced by rows of sweaty oarsmen rowing the galley. It's much quiter, except for the drumbeat of the cadence keeper, and the lash of the whips.
Mark B. from Austin TX |
07.04.08 - 11:45 am | #
the rise of Ronald Reagan would not have happened without his leadership
for that alone he should be consigned to the deepest level of hell.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 11:46 am | #
Different band, same era. Still old that I remember that song. I also remember Wendy O. sawing cars in half. Really old!
Monica_A: Dammit! |
07.04.08 - 11:46 am | #
Jesse shure knew how to keep them nigras down, by God!!!!
Texaschilibean |
07.04.08 - 11:46 am | #
It is fitting. For true defenders of the Constitution, the Fourth of July IS a good day to die...
Texaschilibean
Remember keep the muzzle level or you will be blind with a lobotomy.
Gimlet |
07.04.08 - 11:46 am | #
I expect TCB to do the same thing when David Duke and Fred Phelps die
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 11:46 am | #
Pleasure craft builders are in bad shape.
Passed an RV Center yesterday and they had a huge electronic sign up that said "Customers Wanted: Apply Inside."
I think "pleasure craft" includes any recreational boat, not just yachts.
I work with an otherwise exceptionally intelligent woman who, along with her husband who is also a state employee, is upside on her payments for GIANT schoolbus SUV, which they HAVE TO keep, because otherwise they couldn't tow their BOAT.
Like I said, otherwise very intelligent and on the ball, but when she wants to talk about gas prices, I've had to say, "Sorry, I think you are deep denial and I have no sympathy. Sell your freakin boat, pay off the car, and get right with the gas pump."
virgotex |
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07.04.08 - 11:48 am | #
Why are tyou degaidng the legacy of roanld reagang greness by giiving credit to an old school bigit, Reagbn kenw what he was doing launching his campaign in the home mississippi burning...he was bigotted enough all by himself
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 11:48 am | #
Did you know the French have no word for "big shitpile?"
Dr. Wu |
07.04.08 - 11:48 am | #
From earlier - refined
This is from 'turk's link to the odious Glen Beck at FDL. If we assume this asshole's figures are accurate, let's see what it means. From Glen Beck, This number should put our skyrocketing gas prices into perspective. To explain: In January 2007, gas prices were at a measly $2.17 a gallon. Since then they've skyrocketed to more than $4.
Considering the average amount of gas used per household, the rise has cost us approximately $1,690.
Now the meat: Suppose you work in a job that pays you $18,000 a year. That is $346 a week. Not being an investment banker, you have to pay about thirty per cent of your income in payroll taxes (FICA, Fed, State, and Local) or $103. That takes your pay down to $243. The figures cited means that you have had to pay an INCREASE of $32.50 per week in gasoline prices alone this year. That is 14% of your income.
Now this figure does not count the increased prices for food and everything else that have increased in price - dramatically. I am pretty sure we could justify a similar rise in prices. So, in the last year you have lost nearly 30% of your income.
30%.
Think about losing 30% of your salary. What would that mean to you in your life?
DWD - S☮S |
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07.04.08 - 11:48 am | #
This hovercraft is in dire need of eels.
I can bring some lamprey. One if by land, two if by sea.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.04.08 - 11:49 am | #
I think this is what you were looking for?
catalexis |
07.04.08 - 11:49 am | #
I gotta lot worse to say about Jesse Helms than I ever did about Tim Russert, so...maybe I'd better stick with
Happy Fourth of July, folks!
Daddy-O |
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07.04.08 - 11:49 am | #
TCB claerly hates the legacy of the great Ronald Reagan/sarcasm
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 11:49 am | #
Southern Beale I'm watching teh tennis.
What's the score?
I wonder if another Williams-Williams Wimbledon final was the last straw that put him over the edge. I mean, first Tiger Woods and then Venus and Serena ... it would probably too much for him to take, all of his white boy country club sports taken over by the uppity brown skinned ones.
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:49 am | #
"This recession is putting a dent in my walloon"?
This hovercraft is in dire need of eels.
watertiger
My nipples explode with delight!
Rmj, Back from Beyond |
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07.04.08 - 11:49 am | #
Southern Beale I'm watching teh tennis.
Dammit, I am jealous. (one of the few times I miss expanded)
camelot |
07.04.08 - 11:49 am | #
Passed an RV Center yesterday and they had a huge electronic sign up that said "Customers Wanted: Apply Inside."
How many Belgians (horses) would you need to pull one of those things?
(Notice how I tied the thread together? /Martha Stewart)
Gromit |
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07.04.08 - 11:50 am | #
Some of President Bush's allies tell the Political Bulletin they are embarrassed and angry that the White House seems to be wasting Bush's time on frivolous events when much of the country is suffering through economic hard times
Poor handlers. Dubbyah was tough enough to keep presentable for public appearances before. But when he resumed drinking in 2006 it all went to slime.
Now all his public appearances have to be in the morning, when he's relatively sober, and they have to be even more carefully scripted and unchallenging.
Bet you never considered just how much work it is to be a professional animal handler, didja?
(Click to enlarge)
Gromit | Homepage | 07.04.08 - 11:38 am | #
Great pics. Want more.
Libby |
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07.04.08 - 11:50 am | #
Five+ in the Senate is not enough.
More Republican scandals, please, and desperate tactical blunders.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.04.08 - 11:50 am | #
Here are some people you may know:
Gromit
I love Vermont - I go for long bike rides there at leat twice a year - usually to Stowe and Craftsbury - but I love it all! The best people... you guys really should join up with Canada
Nuts! |
07.04.08 - 11:50 am | #
I think this is what you were looking for?
Yeah. We had a local music video show. Always had the Plasmatics and Missing Persons in the same program. So when I think of one, I always think of the other.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
07.04.08 - 11:50 am | #
I wish I didn't have a very distinct and ancient vision of Wendy O. Williams in my head right now, spork...
Oh, well, at least my memory still works.
Daddy-O |
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"This recession is putting a dent in my walloon"?
This hovercraft is in dire need of eels.
watertiger
My nipples explode with delight!
Rmj, Back from Beyond
Do you want to come back to my place bouncy bouncy
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 11:51 am | #
"jesse helms was a real American patriot who faught against the the communist traitors in congress.any time i hear a kennedy or red nancy having a fit over mr. helms i felt uplifted and knew jesse was right.my sympathies go out to his family this is a great man who will be missed by all free Americans."
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:51 am | #
Did you know the French have no word for "big shitpile?"
Of course they do. They call it a "Royale with cheese" because of the metric system.
Thumper Johnson |
07.04.08 - 11:51 am | #
I think "pleasure craft" includes any recreational boat, not just yachts.
I've burned three gallons of diesel in my sailboat over the past five years. Even less in my canoes.
Gromit |
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07.04.08 - 11:51 am | #
My nipples explode with delight!
That sounds painful.
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:51 am | #
which they HAVE TO keep, because otherwise they couldn't tow their BOAT
People are dopes. How often do they actually tow the boat? Wouldn't it be cheaper to rent a towing vehicle when you need one? Or buy a cheapo truck while driving a sensible vehicle every day?
I'll never understand that mindset that thinks a heavy truck is an everyday vehicle.
puppethead |
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07.04.08 - 11:52 am | #
Royale with merde?
virgotex |
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07.04.08 - 11:52 am | #
My mental image of Wendy O. involves electrical tape and whipped cream. And I'd like to keep it that way.
Dr. Wu |
07.04.08 - 11:52 am | #
Helms was a towering figure. The defeat of Soviet communism and the rise of Ronald Reagan would not have happened without his leadership at decisive times.
Helms was a towering pile of rank shit.
He didn't have fuck-all to do with the demise of the Soviet Union (they were perfectly capable of fucking up on their own).
Helms was a bigot, a racist and a misogynist (funny how those go together). There was nothing in him to admire. He got his start broadcasting hate speech from a fuckin' trailer in the woods, and he never progressed from that. He just found a different venue for it, and a slightly different vocabulary for saying the same thing.
He was a loudmouthed cracker in a suit. He embarrassed this country around the world. Things definitely looked brighter when he left the government.
montag |
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07.04.08 - 11:52 am | #
It's much quiter, except for the drumbeat of the cadence keeper, and the lash of the whips.
Mark B. from Austin TX | 07.04.08 - 11:45 am | #
sad but true, this made me laugh the laughter of the damned. i see my future.
ina, virtually serious |
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07.04.08 - 11:52 am | #
at least my memory still works.
If you think hard enough, you'll see the duct tape and whipped cream as if I were in the room with you!
Wendy O Williams |
07.04.08 - 11:52 am | #
Notice hwo they casually insert swipes at Keenedy and Pelosi
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 11:52 am | #
(Notice how I tied the thread together? /Martha Stewart)
It's a good thing!
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:52 am | #
Did you know the French have no word for "big shitpile?"
But when he resumed drinking in 2006 it all went to slime.
Now all his public appearances have to be in the morning, when he's relatively sober, and they have to be even more carefully scripted and unchallenging.
Cynicus
Pretty good theory! You must know an alcoholic or 2 - that's a very familiar pattern
Nuts! |
07.04.08 - 11:53 am | #
Even less in my canoes.
I would hope so
virgotex |
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07.04.08 - 11:53 am | #
I think "pleasure craft" includes any recreational boat, not just yachts.
Does a kayak count?
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:53 am | #
you guys really should join up with Canada
Workin' on it. Did you notice the little redhead's name tag?
Gromit |
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07.04.08 - 11:53 am | #
Did you know the French have no word for "big shitpile?"
Dr. Wu | 07.04.08 - 11:48 am | #
It's a good thing. (more Martha)
camelot |
07.04.08 - 11:54 am | #
Helms was a bigot, a racist and a misogynist (funny how those go together). There was nothing in him to admire. He got his start broadcasting hate speech from a fuckin' trailer in the woods, and he never progressed from that. He just found a different venue for it, and a slightly different vocabulary for saying the same thing.
He was a loudmouthed cracker in a suit. He embarrassed this country around the world. Things definitely looked brighter when he left the government.
montag
Fox News phoned former Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS) for his reaction to Helms’ passing. “He had a philosophy, had principles he believed in, and he stood and fought for them,” Lott said, adding that he admired that Helms accomplished his work without being “mean-spirited and disrespectful.” Lott added:
Senator Helms did it by sometimes supporting things that surprised people. But if you looked at it, if you looked at his faith and principles he believed in, it made sense.
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:54 am | #
It's the men's semifinal.
Nadal is up on Schuettler 2 sets to nil.
It's on ESPN2. (I thought that was on basic cable.)
Didn't NBC use to show "Breakfast at Wimbledon" on the 4th?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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07.04.08 - 11:54 am | #
Did you know the French have no word for "big shitpile?"
Whadduya want to drink?
camelot |
07.04.08 - 11:55 am | #
Senator Helms did it by sometimes supporting things that surprised people. But if you looked at it, if you looked at his faith and principles he believed in, it made sense.
Southern Beale
I'm Sure HArvey Gantt Would agree
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 11:55 am | #
To explain: In January 2007, gas prices were at a measly $2.17 a gallon. Since then they've skyrocketed to more than $4.
obama was interviewed on a cnbc money show this morning, and the interviewer kept trying to get him to say that high gas prices were a good thing in some way (there is the advantage of raising conciousness, of course, but a pres candidate CANNOT say that)
barack did a very good job with it. basically said it was good for people to be thinking about energy, but not a good thing at all for prices to jump so quickly - a shock to which there was no comparably timed response.
then they went to three wall street guys for analysis - one was a barack supporter, one was a mccain supporter, so they could be discounted. the third, an independant and harvard prof, was unequivocal that obama was the better candidate for the economy. not even a comparison. but the funny thing was when they cut to the mccain guy - he was standind out on the street and couldn't hear the interview or their follow up questions. so all he could say was "raising taxes and protectionism is NOT what we need" - which of course had nothing to do with what obama said or was even asked about.
it was tres amusing.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 11:55 am | #
Gromit Henry is as cute as a button but why the mismatched socks?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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07.04.08 - 11:56 am | #
More Trent Lott:
"This country would be better off if Jesse Helms had been elected president in 1860."
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.04.08 - 11:56 am | #
By the way, Phil Graham is a repugnant small quocked weasel.
Good old Phil better watch out if some large $$$ American loses their arse to the tax man for the bag of shyte sold to him/her by UBS, Graham and his sycophants, old Phil may be soon swimming with the fishies.
How much more, based on a extrapolation this the Europe info, will US banks need to raise and/or the taxpayers front?
tbhull |
07.04.08 - 11:56 am | #
So, will there be an editorial cartoonist brave enough to show Helms arriving at the gates of heaven tages with a "Whites Only" sign?
catalexis |
07.04.08 - 11:57 am | #
Senator Helms did it by sometimes supporting things that surprised people. But if you looked at it, if you looked at his faith and principles he believed in, it made sense.
Southern Beale
I hope you know I was quoting Trent Lott there. I forgot the quote marks.
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:57 am | #
made-for-TV-movies featuring Toby Keith and Ted Nugent. It's like Die Hard: Branson.
When the caliber of your pistol exceeds your IQ, and your pecker is smaller than either.
It is fitting. For true defenders of the Constitution, the Fourth of July IS a good day to die...
Texaschilibean | 07.04.08 - 11:43 am | #
Traitors too, it appears. helms set this country back 20 years every time he spoke. Any responsibility he had for the traitor Reagan he will pay for in hell.
ronjazz |
07.04.08 - 11:57 am | #
Gotta walk dogs. Later.
Southern Beale |
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07.04.08 - 11:58 am | #
PARIS (Thomson Financial) - Leaders of the Colombian FARC rebel movement were paid millions of dollars to free Colombian politician Ingrid Betancourt and 14 other hostages, Swiss radio said on Friday, quoting 'a reliable source'.
The 15 hostages released on Wednesday by the Colombian army 'were in reality ransomed for a high price, and the whole operation afterwards was a set-up,' the radio's French-language channel said.
Saying the United States, which had three of its citizens among those freed, was behind the deal, it put the price of the ransom at some $20 million.
Libby |
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07.04.08 - 11:58 am | #
(I thought that was on basic cable.)
Not mine. I find it is mostly shopping networks and fundie rantings.
camelot |
07.04.08 - 11:59 am | #
Montag, attempts at character assasination after Helms' death are in poor taste, and false. Truth is, Jesse Helms was an enemy of Communism when other Senators embraced their leaders. He was a friend of Tibet when Richard Gere and other lefties were still in diapers. He fought the Panama Canal give away and now we see the Chinese controlling the ports.
Here's a quote from Jesse Helms I dug up on Google. I think it gets to the heart of why some people really hate the man - his proud Christianity: "I have tried at every point to seek God's wisdom on the decisions I made, and I made it my business to speak up on behalf of the things God tells us are important to Him."
Rest in Peace. God bless.
Over and out...
Texaschilibean |
07.04.08 - 11:59 am | #
Lott said, adding that he admired that Helms accomplished his work without being “mean-spirited and disrespectful.”
There was nothing mean or disrespectful when Helms said, "Mr. Clinton better watch out if he comes down here. He'd better have a bodyguard. "
George Johnston |
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07.04.08 - 11:59 am | #
Riiiiiiight. Being a racist, misogynistic fuckwit isn't mean-spirited or disrespectful.
Fox News phoned former Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS) for his reaction to Helms’ passing. “He had a philosophy, had principles he believed in, and he stood and fought for them,” Lott said, adding that he admired that Helms accomplished his work without being “mean-spirited and disrespectful.” Lott added:
Senator Helms did it by sometimes supporting things that surprised people. But if you looked at it, if you looked at his faith and principles he believed in, it made sense.
Workin' on it. Did you notice the little redhead's name tag?
Gromit
went back and looked and couldn't read it - what's it say?
Nuts! |
07.04.08 - 12:00 pm | #
He fought the Panama Canal give away
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!
panama canal dead give away. what an idiot.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 12:00 pm | #
PARIS (Thomson Financial) - Leaders of the Colombian FARC rebel
movement were paid millions of dollars to free Colombian politician
Ingrid Betancourt and 14 other hostages, Swiss radio said on Friday, quoting 'a reliable source'.
HBK was right! Cindy McCain paid for them on her Amex card!
Bjorn Borg's hair is totally gray.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
I'd hit it (a SinfoTodd original) and now you are just gloating. Grrrr.
camelot |
07.04.08 - 12:00 pm | #
Senator Helms did it by sometimes supporting things that
surprised people. But if you looked at it, if you looked at his faith
and principles he believed in, it made sense.
Shorter: Things look ever so much rosier in the flickering light of a burning cross.
driftglass |
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07.04.08 - 12:01 pm | #
How much more, based on a extrapolation this the Europe info, will US banks need to raise and/or the taxpayers front?
At a certain point, some bright spark in the banking industry will say "Hey! How much would we need to cadge from the taxpayers to make a profit off all this? How much damn profit could we make?!?!"
And at that point, all hell's out for breakfast. You can make up names for numbers, and it will still cost more.
NBC is showing Federer Vs. Saifan at noon.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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07.04.08 - 12:01 pm | #
Bjorn Borg's hair is totally gray.
Yes, but he looks great. He looks like he's really kept himself in shape and like he could step right back on the court and play a few sets with the young ones.
Mark B. from Austin TX |
07.04.08 - 12:01 pm | #
Why is a Harvard economics blog citing GWPDA? Strange, strange times.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
07.04.08 - 12:01 pm | #
I'm loathe to call up my investment advisor. Those grade AAA mortgage backed instruments were downgraded to AA and junk status, due to Moody's and other raters enabling the former feeding frenzy.
So even conservative investors get screwed to the wall, not just a crisis for homeowners. Not yet ready to confront the status of my retirement funds.
el |
07.04.08 - 12:01 pm | #
obama was interviewed on a cnbc money show this morning, and the interviewer kept trying to get him to say that high gas prices were a good thing in some way
and just imagine how a quote like that could be edited.
nona |
07.04.08 - 12:02 pm | #
Over and out...
Texaschilibean
promises, promises. your word is as good as the ol' racist fucktard no doubt.
Nuts! |
07.04.08 - 12:02 pm | #
McCain was in Colombia as the bagman, no doubt.
ronjazz |
07.04.08 - 12:02 pm | #
How can one commit Character Assasination on a person who has no character?
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 12:02 pm | #
Jesse Helms... still dead and still a racist.
Monica_A: Dammit! | 07.04.08 - 11:42 am | #
How will he react when he discovers there are niggras in heaven?
Shared Humanity |
07.04.08 - 12:03 pm | #
David Lindley's singing has improved vastly.
Gromit | Homepage | 07.04.08 - 11:47 am
From '82 Lindley and El Rayo X doing Mercury Blues.
That boy can make that pedal steel squeal so fine.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:03 pm | #
Jesse Helms dead?
Roast in Hell, fucker. Roast in Hell.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.04.08 - 12:03 pm | #
European banks may need to raise as much as 90 billion euros ($141 billion)
I am always amazed how the money has just disappeared into thin air.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:03 pm | #
Indeed.
Borg still looks great but I am mourning those gorgeous blonde locks he had back in the day.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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07.04.08 - 12:04 pm | #
I am always amazed how the money has just disappeared into thin air.
Sometimes it just ends up on a pallet headed for Iraq . . . or some Rethug's bank account.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.04.08 - 12:04 pm | #
what I heard about the Colombia operation is that it was led by Jessica Lynch.
peterboy |
07.04.08 - 12:04 pm | #
I think it gets to the heart of why some people really hate the man - his proud Christianity: "I have tried at every point to seek God's wisdom on the decisions I made, and I made it my business to speak up on behalf of the things God tells us are important to Him."
Like Helms' bigotry and racism?
billy b |
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07.04.08 - 12:04 pm | #
Why is a Harvard economics blog citing GWPDA? Strange, strange times.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
yMy gosh, you all are entirely too impressive and important for me to even be communicating with. (Will you sign my arm?)
camelot |
07.04.08 - 12:05 pm | #
I have tried at every point to seek God's wisdom on the decisions I made
and failed miserably.
i will give him one thing - he did join up with bono fighting famine in africa. late in life. i don't know to what extent, but he did say "it has nothing to do with liberal or conservative - people are dying." (probably a slight paraphrase)
so in eighty some odd years, he did one good thing.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 12:05 pm | #
How will he react when he discovers there are niggras in heaven?
As.
If.
He's going to the other place.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:05 pm | #
How will he react when he discovers there are niggras in heaven?
Shared Humanity
Let's just say that where's going, he'll have a chance to reconnect with a lott of KKK members.
Of course, I'm speaking metaphorically, I don't really believe in heaven or hell.
Mark B. from Austin TX |
07.04.08 - 12:05 pm | #
Here's a quote from Jesse Helms I dug up on Google. I think it gets to the heart of why some people really hate the man - his proud Christianity: "I have tried at every point to seek God's wisdom on the decisions I made, and I made it my business to speak up on behalf of the things God tells us are important to Him."
Rest in Peace. God bless.
Over and out...
My mistake, he was a ranting Jesus freak bigot, racist and misogynist.
You go on loving an imaginary memory.
I'll prefer to remember him as he was.
montag |
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07.04.08 - 12:05 pm | #
Jesse Helms: Against Civil rights for all people, so according to TCB He was fro "freedoM", apparently that word has lost alll meaning
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 12:05 pm | #
How will he react when he discovers there are niggras in heaven?
Shared Humanity
Why does heaven smell like sulphur?
Jesse Helms |
07.04.08 - 12:05 pm | #
I am always amazed how the money has just disappeared into thin air.
You know what makes a US $1 bill 'money'? On one side is the line "This money is legal tender for all transactions, public and private." It's money because it SAYS that it's money. And we all agree to believe it. Similarly, all that 'profit' was spun from conceptual space, and all this debt accrued likewise when the virtual cash went home.
We on this board bitch about 'faith-based' this and 'reality-based' that, but truth is, so far as i can tell, the entire US economy lives in dread of that first kid saying "The Emperor is wearing no clothes!"
that entire "helicopter operation" in Colombia made no sense
For me the red flag went up with the "pilots wore Che Guevera t-shirts".
Wtf. That's a nonsense, cartoonish detail. If that's all it took to fool FARC rebels no way would they still be at it after forty years.
puppethead |
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07.04.08 - 12:07 pm | #
Sometimes it just ends up on a pallet headed for Iraq . . . or some Rethug's bank account.
Supreme Commander Thor
imagine if that 8 billion had just vanished on a Dem's watch - we'd never never ever hear the end of it - bricks of American currency on pallets to Iraq - and poof!
Nuts! |
07.04.08 - 12:07 pm | #
Helms never minded the Nigras so long as they stayed in their place.
MP |
07.04.08 - 12:07 pm | #
McCain was in Colombia as the bagman, no doubt.
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I'd love to know the real story of "the coincidence".
el |
07.04.08 - 12:08 pm | #
There have been others. Charlie, who is 51, even took a stab at marriage once back in college. He married Amanda "Mandy" Morrow in 1979 and it lasted all of seven months. By all accounts, the marriage was a horribly depressing debacle.
So, it took him seven months to realize he didn't look good with a full beard?
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.04.08 - 12:08 pm | #
Helms never minded the Nigras so long as they stayed in their place.
MP
I'm still in awe of that little redheaded boy at Gromit's party.
watertiger |
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07.04.08 - 12:09 pm | #
and just imagine how a quote like that could be edited.
nona | 07.04.08 - 12:02 pm | #
exactly. and he knows it. even i, no obamaniac, was very impressed.
so was their independent commentator. don't have transcript, but he was asked straight out "you are the independent, which candidate is better on the economy?"
all he could talk about was how impressed (and surprised) he'd been by obama's interview, and how it was clear obama could bring together an understanding of complex factors and come up with practical long term solutions. he never even mentioned mccain. i wish i could remember his name, i'm sure some of you folks would know him.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 12:09 pm | #
The best thing about Krugman in today's NYT is the little sentence at the end: "David Brooks is on vacation.".
YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGHHH!!!
helena handbasket |
07.04.08 - 12:09 pm | #
Wtf. That's a nonsense, cartoonish detail.
smacks of the codpiece and "mission accomplished" banner
el |
07.04.08 - 12:09 pm | #
So, it took him seven months to realize he didn't look good with a full beard?
david brooks and george will imagine on July 4th that they would have been among the patriots 200+ years ago.
the problem is that they are tories.
they would have been tarred and feathered, and run out of town.
peterboy |
07.04.08 - 12:11 pm | #
Bob Dylan, the first rapper?
zappa beat him to it, i think.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:11 pm | #
Helms never minded the Nigras so long as they stayed in their place.
MP
Jesse Helms was a truly horrible person. I was in college in the late 60s in Chapel Hill when he used to do noon-time commentaries on WRAL in Raleigh and they were filled with hate and a longing for everything the civil rights and anti war movements were against. He will not be missed.
Maxx |
07.04.08 - 12:12 pm | #
So, I don't get it. Honestly. I (in all of my proletariat leaning self, was shocked by the figure that I came up with this morning - 30%!)
People have lost 30% of their income and no one seems to care?
Look. Maybe where all of you live and work no one makes $9.00 an hour but in Muskegon, MI if you offered jobs that paid $9.00 an hour and it was steady work, you would have THOUSANDS of applicants.
People around here make that kind of money unless you are a college graduate working in a college graduate type job.
I am not just picking figures out of thin air about a few "losers." The average family income in the USA is 42K. Two people working at 18K is pretty damned close to that.
Now maybe all of my fellow Atriots can laugh off losing a third of their income . . . .
DWD - S☮S |
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07.04.08 - 12:14 pm | #
sec paulson says speculators have no effect on oil prices.
And Henry Paulson is a bald-faced liar.
montag |
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07.04.08 - 12:14 pm | #
Jesse Helms was a truly horrible person. I was in college in the late 60s in Chapel Hill when he used to do noon-time commentaries on WRAL in Raleigh and they were filled with hate and a longing for everything the civil rights and anti war movements were against. He will not be missed.
Maxx | 07.04.08 - 12:12 pm | #
First person accounts are always the most revealing.
Shared Humanity |
07.04.08 - 12:14 pm | #
Oh man. If that turns out to be true, that they just ransomed these people. I'm happy they're free of course but man that would suck.
catalexis |
07.04.08 - 12:15 pm | #
I'd like to say that Jesse Helms was the last of the old Confederates, but that would be inaccurate, 143 years later.
MP |
07.04.08 - 12:16 pm | #
Working for George Bush, that's a requirement.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.04.08 - 12:16 pm | #
No, DWD, your locale is not unique in its nine dollar an hour job environment. It's here too.
Nine bucks is pretty good pay here. Sadly.
helena handbasket |
07.04.08 - 12:16 pm | #
Gromit, you're reminding me of the Patriots' Day parade in Lexington, MA, that I went to with a friend who lived there. Such a great time.
Ruth |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:16 pm | #
"Leni Reifenstahl To Capture Messiah Hussein Obama's Acceptance Speech In Denver Stasium..."
you g-g-g-g-go, Ad-d-d-d-dolph!
Brings whole new meaning to word, "moron," doesn't it?
montag |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:17 pm | #
"Leni Reifenstahl To Capture Messiah Hussein Obama's Acceptance Speech In Denver Stasium..."
you g-g-g-g-go, Ad-d-d-d-dolph!
Lubyanka
so Hitler was your Messiah?
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 12:17 pm | #
Good God. I am watching the PA voter focus group on C-Span.
I am ashamed and embarrassed and wish I could apologize on behalf of my state.
camelot |
07.04.08 - 12:17 pm | #
gromit, that is al very wonderful. you have everything but solar panels.
what town do you live in or near?
we have some friends in Calais and in Weston.
peterboy |
07.04.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Look. Maybe where all of you live and work no one makes $9.00 an hour but in Muskegon, MI if you offered jobs that paid $9.00 an hour and it was steady work, you would have THOUSANDS of applicants.
The KY average is closer to $7.00. $9.00/hr is 'good work'.
but what do you want me to say? i already publicly state that it's a severe recession, and i think it's going to be a depression. i have covered that things must be done, that those who shit the bed will never clean it, and that the public needs to get angry, causing the Village to rediscover the respect for the public that is based on a fear of not respecting them.
he said "speculators don't set trends, they follow them."
this was his entire argument. never hire him to manage your investment strategy.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Gromit has obviously cornered teh shingle market.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
07.04.08 - 12:18 pm | #
I'm a manager in a factory in the north suburbs of Chicago. Average hourly pay is about $15. Nobody leaves the place for another job.
Shared Humanity |
07.04.08 - 12:18 pm | #
on Iraq, on FISA, on campaign finance, etc., Messiah Hussein Obama has dropped trou and showed his half-black ass to the gaggle of hapless nutroot Obamagasmics, Obamaholics, Obamorons and Obambeciles looking helplessly on...
Lubyanka |
07.04.08 - 12:19 pm | #
WT,
what's that thing Bush has on his lapel?
it aint a flag; is he wearing some sort of ribbon from a medal he never earned?
peterboy |
07.04.08 - 12:19 pm | #
View from the neighborhood beach
"The blog you were looking for was not found."
el |
07.04.08 - 12:20 pm | #
on Iraq, on FISA, on campaign finance, etc., Messiah Hussein Obama has dropped trou and showed his half-black ass to the gaggle of hapless nutroot Obamagasmics, Obamaholics, Obamorons and Obambeciles looking helplessly on...
Lubyanka
But yoiur for for torture, wietapping, and illegal campaign financing, so you must want to vote for him
olexicon,or Mick Shrimpton |
07.04.08 - 12:22 pm | #
Should Congress reimpose a national speed limit to save gas?
No.
My Scion XA gets 33 MPG even at 65 MPH.
Shared Humanity |
07.04.08 - 12:23 pm | #
Just to make me feel bad, am I the only one working today?
dmark, blackcat firecracker |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:23 pm | #
Some day, I'll don a flag lapel pin so huge, it will blot out the sun!
We've said it here many times, but it bears repeating: The honorability of patriotism depends completely on the honorability of the country toward which one is patriotic.
Tralfaz |
07.04.08 - 12:23 pm | #
gromit, that is al very wonderful. you have everything but solar panels.
what town do you live in or near?
We're in Burlington. Lake Champlain at the north end of Shelburne Bay. No solar, but tons and tons of insulation.
Gromit |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:23 pm | #
Well, the hotdog-eating guys are working today.
Jay C., byobb |
07.04.08 - 12:23 pm | #
Those who lament the South's "Lost Cause" are missing an enzyme or two.
The "Cause" was to perpetuate an economy that was built solely on the bondage of other human beings. It made planters rich, but fucked over rank and file whites, and demolished and de-humanized black families.
Fuck the South's "Lost Cause". It was rooted in the power of sociopaths, many of whom were in the clergy.
MP |
07.04.08 - 12:24 pm | #
oh, it's just a BIGGER flag lapel pin. Y'know, for the holiday.
watertiger
Does he have just the number of stars that represent red states on his flag?
Gimlet |
07.04.08 - 12:24 pm | #
Just to make me feel bad, am I the only one working today?
Yeppers I'm on holiday today, not working this weekend.
Doug |
07.04.08 - 12:24 pm | #
Back outside - the neighborhood is humming with the sounds of various power tools and small engines.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
07.04.08 - 12:25 pm | #
What a great neighborhood and a great party. Almost makes me want to move back north again. Summer in VT is always so magical.
Libby |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Just to make me feel bad, am I the only one working today?
i'm working as much as i ever do.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:25 pm | #
my old benz gets better mileage at 70 then it does at 50.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
My CR-V gets about 28 MPG at 80 mph. When I drive to work at slower speeds (mostly stop and go) it drops to 23. Go figure.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.04.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Messiah Hussein Obama has dropped trou and showed his half-black ass
gasp. A black cheek and a white cheek. Who knew?
el |
07.04.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Back outside - the neighborhood is humming with the sounds of various power tools and small engines.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
The sound of hammer meeting roofing nails will again sing out across my 'burb.
Once the home fires are burning.
Rmj, Back from Beyond |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:26 pm | #
I'm working on a good buzz, does that count?
FireFox |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:26 pm | #
Summer in VT is always so magical.
Libby |
Yes, Gromit is once again making me want to shop for a new town & move to Vermont!
ina, virtually serious |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:26 pm | #
A black cheek and a white cheek. Who knew?
It's what they wanted to have on that Star Trek episode, but the censors weren't having any of it.
smitty w,fightingw/gammalons |
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07.04.08 - 12:26 pm | #
I'm working on a good buzz, does that count?
FireFox | Homepage | 07.04.08 - 12:26 pm | #
Only if I was there too.
dmark, blackcat firecracker |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:27 pm | #
Oh, man, there's going to be a big party in Hell tonight. Jesse Helms.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:27 pm | #
Well, byron, criticizing Obama on campaign finance is stupid.
As to the FISA deal, John Dean has a column at Findlaw that says his support of the bill may not be as bad as previously thought.
Seems as if the only immunity given the communication companies is protection against civil action, not criminal.
Hmmmmm.
billy b |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:27 pm | #
Back to da party. More later.
Gromit |
Homepage |
07.04.08 - 12:27 pm | #
When are you going to kill yourself? When? Soon, I hope.
Supreme Commander Thor
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That is over the line. Are you buggy?
Zack |
07.04.08 - 12:27 pm | #
Parade past our house started with an anti-war group that included a guy on a bike with a sign that said.....
"I can't believe I'm still protesting this crap!"
He looked to be in his 60's. He got an ovation.
Shared Humanity |
07.04.08 - 12:27 pm | #
the neighborhood is humming with the sounds of various power tools and small engines.
I do love people who have postage-stamp-size yards with leaf-blowers.
Yes, those summer pics are very nice, but I have a few friends who also live in Burlington and I have seen the winter pics....screw all that snow.
FireFox |
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07.04.08 - 12:28 pm | #
Brings whole new meaning to word, "moron," doesn't it?
montag
Not really, it's the same meaning as always, he just keeps finding new ways to demonstrate it.
Mark B. from Austin TX |
07.04.08 - 12:28 pm | #
Yes, Gromit is once again making me want to shop for a new town & move to Vermont!
ina, virtually serious
Well Noho is nice too and lots of conveniences to recommend it and VT is a only short day trip.
Me, I'm here in fighting to breathe in the bad air. Going to be an ugly day, probably too hot to even go to the pool until late afternoon.
Libby |
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07.04.08 - 12:28 pm | #
When I drive to work at slower speeds (mostly stop and go) it drops to 23. Go figure.
Supreme Commander Thor | 07.04.08 - 12:25 pm | #
highway is always better than city. but optimum speed at highway is dependent on the car.
course, my commute is only 20 yards. so i don't get to check it that often.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 12:29 pm | #
DWD even here in Gotham applicants come out by the hundreds when even minimum wage jobs are on offer.
I heard of a Toys R Us or something opening in Times Square that had people lining up for blocks to apply for a job.
It's not only in Michigan.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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07.04.08 - 12:29 pm | #
That is over the line. Are you buggy?
Zack
According to the people I spoke with this week, yes.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.04.08 - 12:29 pm | #
Speaking of Euros, what if the oil producing companies stop taking dollars?
George Johnston |
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07.04.08 - 12:29 pm | #
I am off now for Fourth of July Festivities.
If everyone wanted to make an old man feel good, please feel free to copy my message and post it wherever you can. Letters to teh Editors, blogs, CNN, MSNBC, and anyone with a venue.
This story NEEDS to be told and it needs to move into the publics' consciousness.
(reposting below so you will not have to look and I will edit the cuss word out)
DWD - S☮S |
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07.04.08 - 12:30 pm | #
I do love people who have postage-stamp-size yards with leaf-blowers.
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spork_incident |
I have a neighbor with a stamp sized yard who pays someone to come with a giant rider (looks like a hay maker) mower, to do her lawn. the guy can barely fit the whole thing on her yard, let alone turn it without cutting down a tree.
Hardly. The trools have taken to openly threatening posters and posters' families.
Thor didn't threaten anyone.
billy b |
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07.04.08 - 12:30 pm | #
I do love people who have postage-stamp-size yards with leaf-blowers.
If they worked I might use one.
I don't think they make buzz-worm, scorpion and cholla cactus blowers.
Doug |
07.04.08 - 12:31 pm | #
Seems as if the only immunity given the communication companies is protection against civil action, not criminal.
Hmmmmm.
billy b
KO has been talking that up, and Obama seems to be aware of it (a much more useful tool if he runs the DOJ in February). And Obama met his critics head on at his website. Didn't back down, but respected their complaints, said they were useful.
Got to admire that, even if you don't like his position. I'm beginning to think he might campaign "right" and govern "left." Well, "left" by MSM standards.
We could do worse.
Rmj, Back from Beyond |
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07.04.08 - 12:31 pm | #
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- Former Sen. Jesse Helms, who served 30 years in Congress, died on the Fourth of July, the Jesse Helms research center says. He was 86.
That "News story" is an abject lie.
We have information proving Helms died months ago, and has been kept in a freezer 'till now in order to CLAIM he "Died on the Fourth Of July".
This was done to cement his legacy as a Superpatriot, and to piss off Tom Cruise.
Flint, employed, annoyed |
07.04.08 - 12:31 pm | #
There's nothing now for Chimpy that is helpin',
Not even an enormous flag lapel pin.
And even with a stadium-size flag
His standing as worst preznit's in the bag.
Fly-fornication Moscowitz |
07.04.08 - 12:33 pm | #
We could do worse.
No...see, because comments on blogs say that we're doooooooooom'd.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story! |
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07.04.08 - 12:33 pm | #
Anyone lose any fingers yet?
Zap Rowsdower...True Story!
I can't believe how quiet my neighborhood was last night. Of course MPD did threaten to actually write $400 tickets this year.
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07.04.08 - 12:34 pm | #
Flint owes me a cold one. I even identified the freeze (see below).
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07.04.08 - 12:34 pm | #
Speaking of Euros, what if the oil producing companies stop taking dollars?
The oil companies won't, but the oil producing countries are gradually doing it. Venezuela is trading some oil in Euros, Iraq traded oil for Euros from about 1998-9 until the invasion. Iran, if they ever get their oil bourse going, plans to trade in a basket of currencies other than dollars.
What happens is that countries begin to convert reserves from dollars to other currencies and the dollar drops even further.
Trading oil in dollars has created a huge dollar accumulator in the system which has traditionally dampened swings in the value of the currency.
The Olbermann/Dean interview is partially transcripted in the column.
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07.04.08 - 12:35 pm | #
Consider the alternative.
Wait...he's in Argentina already???
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07.04.08 - 12:35 pm | #
We could do worse.
Rmj, Back from Beyond
given that there is only one alternative, that's a given.
i'm not cutting him any slack on fisa. but the whole 'changing positions on iraq' is a bland lunchmeat popularized by oscar myer.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 12:35 pm | #
Anyone lose any fingers yet?
I'm counting ten.
Uh Oh...I'm seeing like fifteen
bill |
07.04.08 - 12:35 pm | #
Not going to vote for Obama?
Consider the alternative.
The upside is you might she the happy couple hanging from a street lamp some day
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.04.08 - 12:36 pm | #
This is from Glen Beck at CNN. If we assume these figures are accurate, let's see what it means. . . .This number should put our skyrocketing gas prices into perspective. To explain: In January 2007, gas prices were at a measly $2.17 a gallon. Since then they've skyrocketed to more than $4.
Considering the average amount of gas used per household, the rise has cost us approximately $1,690.
Suppose you work in a job that pays you $18,000 a year – $9.00 an hour. ( $346 a week) Not being an investment banker who are only taxed at 15%, you have to pay about 30% of your income in payroll taxes (FICA, Fed, State, and Local) or $103. That takes your pay down to $243. The figures cited means that you have had to pay an increase of $32.50 per week in gasoline prices alone this year. That is 14% of your income.
This figure does not inclue the increased prices for food and everything else that have gone up so dramatically. I am certain that we can justify a similar rise in prices. So, in the last year, people in this income bracket have lost nearly 30% of their income. (And average household income in the USA is around 40K per year. Two people working at these wages will yield a similar figure)
30%.
Think about losing 30% of your salary. What would that mean to you in your life?
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07.04.08 - 12:36 pm | #
Watertiger, if you're still here, stellar roundup today and belated congrats on the Lizz Winstead gig. How very cool.
"Keep sending me money, you twats, but go fuck yourselves at every opportunity.."
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07.04.08 - 12:39 pm | #
Re: Obama
Lookit. Been to the left of everyone all my life. I'm used to it. So it isn't surprising to me that I'm to Obama's left, and that i'm urging him to tack left rather than to a benighted idea of the center. But he's basically OK, and far, far better than McCain, and, better yet, still a bit unformed as an actor on the national stage.
Keep the pressure on, but, simultaneously, give him a bit of a break. He's running for president in a country where the names of Richard Clarke, Valerie Plame, Eric Shinseki, David Addington, Hans Blix and Jack Abramoff would draw only blank stares from a majority of the populace. I wouldn't do it the way he's doing it, but I'm not unmindful of his circumstances.
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07.04.08 - 12:39 pm | #
I will nuture it, and marinate it, and season it. Check on it, in case it needs anything.
and I will call it George
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07.04.08 - 12:40 pm | #
given that there is only one alternative, that's a given.
i'm not cutting him any slack on fisa. but the whole 'changing positions on iraq' is a bland lunchmeat popularized by oscar myer.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Neither am I, but I tend to find his positions more nuanced and thoughtful than usually reported (hence the invented foolishness on Iraq).
And I don't think, in the end, that nuance is going to cost him the election. In other times, I would; but McCain is hiring Rove to help him out. Which would be like Obama hiring Carville, or Shrum.
Pass the popcorn. I'll be interested to see how Obama governs.
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07.04.08 - 12:40 pm | #
Oh, and I have the worst 4th tribute up on me blog.
The suckitude rivals only that of Atrios'.
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07.04.08 - 12:41 pm | #
e-mail from WGG:
Most of you know that a rare, deadly form of cancer (Adrenocortical carcinoma) snuck up and attacked the woman who has been the love of my life for the past 10 years.
I started a blog to talk about it, mostly for myself. You don't know what you cannot write, imho. But I am finding that my own imagination, even abetted with 'the Google,' can unearth only so many sources of treatment information, clinical trials, new developments, etc. I think I've probably picked most of the lower-hanging fruit.
So I am coming to you, friends, co-bloggers, acquaintances, almost all of whom have blogs of your own, in order to ask you for a favor: Link/bump "A Chinchilla of Hope" on your sites, please. I need more knowledge, more sources, more ideas, and probably/possibly some of your readers may have or know things I need to help my gal--and me--through this.
Another in a long line of simple photographs that elegantly speak to the issues of the day. How do you do it?
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07.04.08 - 12:41 pm | #
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | July 4, 2008 | brianinmo
Today is the 232nd Birthday of our nation. It is a good day to reflect on just how blessed we are to live in what is truly the greatest nation on earth - not only presently, but in all human history.
If you wuz to move to Denmark, it would be even greater. Do the USA a favor, huh?
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07.04.08 - 12:42 pm | #
Keep the pressure on, but, simultaneously, give him a bit of a break. He's running for president in a country where the names of Richard Clarke, Valerie Plame, Eric Shinseki, David Addington, Hans Blix and Jack Abramoff would draw only blank stares from a majority of the populace. I wouldn't do it the way he's doing it, but I'm not unmindful of his circumstances.
Comment of the bleepin' week. Thank you, Prof.
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yes, WT. fine july 4th set of fotos and fun.
prof wombat, right on, as usual.
and well put, as always.
time to ride the bike. just put up the dont tread on my yellow flag. resisting the idea to go to the fourth bell ringing as I havent made a poster saying:
no telco immunity
expose the bush crimes
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07.04.08 - 12:42 pm | #
The suckitude rivals only that of Atrios'.
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Thank you, that gives me another idea for a project with the girls. Happy 4th.
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07.04.08 - 12:43 pm | #
"we need more deregulation!"-CNBC as d00ds are tent citying it
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07.04.08 - 12:43 pm | #
Today is the 232nd Birthday of our nation. It is a good day to reflect on just how blessed we are to live in what is truly the greatest nation on earth - not only presently, but in all human history.
I admit, I have it pretty goddamned good, and it definitely wasn't all up to me.
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07.04.08 - 12:43 pm | #
I'm anxious to hear Glenn Beck's solution to the gas price problem is. Why do I suspect it starts with a "t" and ends with an "axes."
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07.04.08 - 12:44 pm | #
Not to be confused with "simels' eons".
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07.04.08 - 12:46 pm | #
High flying owls poop on your sheets.
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07.04.08 - 12:46 pm | #
"we need more deregulation!"-CNBC as d00ds are tent citying it
jr
It worked out so well for the airline industry.
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07.04.08 - 12:46 pm | #
Flint owes me a cold one. I even identified the freeze (see below).
leibniz leibkins
O.K.----- (Pops glacial Rolling Rock)
Here you go!
"And now...(spotlight on ice rink)
Disney on Ice!!!!"(coffin slides in from stage left)
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07.04.08 - 12:51 pm | #
I'm gonna make a drink to celebrate the untimely (far, far too late) demise of that theocratic bastard Jesse Helms.
Another one bites the dust.
Now if Robertson and Dobson will go on to their eternal fiery rest, we'll be well on our way to getting this country back on the right path.
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07.04.08 - 1:05 pm | #
Reposted from last night, a list and a wingnut response:
John McCain:Son of an admiral
Barack Obama: Son of a goat herder
McCain: College education (Annapolis) paid for by the US Taxpayer Obama: College education paid for by Obama, via grants, loans and working part/full time jobs.
McCain: got into Annapolis via influence from his father and grandfather, BOTH Admirals. Obama: got into Columbia and Harvard Law School via hard work and determination.
McCain: Graduated at the bottom of his class. Obama: Graduate of Columbia University (B.A.) and Harvard Law School. (J.D. Cum Laude)
McCain: owns 9 homes, including a private ranch with an artifical lake in Sedona, Arizona. Obama: owns one home in Chicago and a condo in Washington, D.C. And Barack Obama is the “elitist”??? Wingnut response to my McCain/Obama list on the "Man In The Arena" YouTube: "Giuliani7222 Obama is by far the elitest. What you just described was pointless; facts that had nothing to do with elitism. I live in Illinois. Before Obama became "famous", he used to show up at the same health club as me :: he acted like a total snob, like he was too good to talk to anyone; he showed no friendliness. That is an elitist! BTW, the tax-payers paid for McCains college so he could risk his life at war protecting YOU TUCKERCH."