I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Current issue of TIME just hit the mailbox. Joke Line has an article on "the real Hillary."
I can't wait.
OMG I'm first?
FIRST!!
Woo hoo !!!
The Beast's 50 Most Loathsome is up.
http://www.buffalobeast.com/122/
...some2007PF.html
why is Edwards like Nader?
Here. Go read a nice poem!
Now, what do you have against Nicole Richie?
why is Edwards like Nader?
because they are both spoilers.
MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Scoop.
BTW, that "I Can't Believe It's A Mormon!" graphic is hilarious.
Now, what do you have against Nicole Richie?
Ewww. I would put nothing against her, might catch cooties.
why is Edwards like Nader?
because they are both spoilers.
anti-dodo
Hmmm. I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
Asshole.
Mitt Romney lying to Michiganders on CNN now.
Is this part of your conspiracy to shut out RedState.com, and all Conservative bloggers?
I like Scoop.
Is this part of your conspiracy to shut out RedState.com, and all Conservative bloggers?
All we have to do is get them to make themselves look like utter idiots.
We've succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.
scoop scoop
Edwards could only be a spoiler if he ran as an independent. For once in the US, we just might have a 50 state contest for the nominations. A brokered convention would strengthen the Democratic Party and reduce the influence of DC and the Village People. It's all good.
GO EDWARDS - ALL 50 STATES!!!
For Scoop, you wanna see the great cartoon Diane found, at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com
heh, heh
ROFL. I love that cartoon.
From below:
They'll always have the Boer Wars.
I read that as Beer Wars. We've had several of those right here at Eschaton.
PLEASE LEAVE SCOOP ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The old "they don't value life the way we do" is classic dehumanization of the enemy rhetoric.
In the case of Huckabee, the entire rest of the world is the enemy, to include the armies of disgusting, Spanish speaking brown country in this country without proper papers. Plus anyone who dares to be Muslim.
What? No music video by whey-faced Brit prog rockers?
The A-man is slipping...
Drupal roolz! 
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Gladly will Leave Scoop Alone.
This thread is moving sloooowwwww.
mid-afternoon blahs
give peace a chance.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...es01112008.html
$100 to Edwards next Friday -- pass it on!
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What? No music video by whey-faced Brit prog rockers?
He would post that garbage if he curd.
Breaking....
Freak F1 tornado in Vancouver Washington. Only 8 tornados in this area since 1950 and never one in January.
Si se puede!
Jeffraham, count me in.
No way would my hero A let Drudge rule his world. please.
Incentives Matter [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Robert Stein writes in:
Being a supply-sider is about recognizing that incentives matter. One of the natural incentives to raise children is to care for ourselves in old-age. Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child. Our idea is to offset this bias, a bias that would exist even if these programs were converted into mandatory saving plans.
May I remind you that (pre-global-warming) Eskimos would set their aging parents adrift on ice floes to sustain the polar bear population?
Another Anschluss post at my place.
This thread is moving sloooowwwww.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 01.12.08 - 3:37 pm | #
Would it help if I blogwhored about the really gross stuff over at the homepage?
scoop?? i thought he meant snoop.
nevermind.
May I remind you that (pre-global-warming) Eskimos would set their aging parents adrift on ice floes to sustain the polar bear population?
Lime Rickey
Polar bears wouldn't stoop to eating Norman Podhoretz or Irving Kristol.
my teamster contract is about up and we are getting a new contract proposal to vote on in a few days.
our leadership has decided that anyone not voting on new contract will be counted as a YES vote.
we are fucked unless people vote.
the new contract destroys work conditions and makes it possible to hire $14 casual workers with the only limitation being they can only work 4 hour shifts and they don't have to be hired.
planetjanet: Jeffraham, count me in.
Dammitplanetjanet! 
Good on ya!
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Being a stakeholder in The Big Con is about fooling people into believing that false incentives matter
Fixed it for you, Ramesh.
LimeRickey; new GoPerv bumper sticker - SAVE THE POLAR BEAR, GOT A NONPRODUCTIVE PARENT TO GIVE?
Unknown.
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Captain?
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Slow day.
Horse liniment!
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LimeRickey; new GoPerv bumper sticker - SAVE THE POLAR BEAR, GOT A NONPRODUCTIVE PARENT TO GIVE?
Ruth
Print 'em up.
Is this part of your conspiracy to shut out RedState.com, and all Conservative bloggers?
If you put the BabsBitch on an icefloe, I'll arrange to have you arrested for polar bear abuse.
Being a supply-sider is about recognizing that incentives matter. One of the natural incentives to raise children is to care for ourselves in old-age. Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child.
What a braying jackass....
ACK, wrong cut and paste! This sucks!
CORRECT cut and paste:
LimeRickey; new GoPerv bumper sticker - SAVE THE POLAR BEAR, GOT A NONPRODUCTIVE PARENT TO GIVE?
And then....
If you put the BabsBitch on an icefloe, I'll arrange to have you arrested for polar bear abuse.
Now it makes sense...
the new contract destroys work conditions and makes it possible to hire $14 casual workers with the only limitation being they can only work 4 hour shifts and they don't have to be hired.
Being from the union-hating South I might not be up on unions, but that does not sound like a contract a union would negotiate.
One of the natural incentives to raise children is to care for ourselves in old-age. Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child.
Why not go back to the dark ages and burn some witches, you fucking idiot?
Being a supply-sider is about recognizing that incentives matter.
I am not going to go make that million dollars unless someone pays me to do it.
I was able to purchase a brand new doughnut cutter at Ace Hardware!
Film at 11.
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Being a supply-sider is about recognizing that incentives matter. One of the natural incentives to raise children is to care for ourselves in old-age. Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child.
This guy is a serious fucktard.
Snow, a union that is getting paid off by mgmt would
Snow, a union that is getting paid off by mgmt would
Sounds about right. These motherfuckers are like Kapos.
One of the natural incentives to raise children is to care for ourselves in old-age.
I can haz 6 wifes?
Awrighty now, getting ready to go off to Gomorrah on the Hudson for an evening of quaffing elitist chardonnay with my satanic commie buds blah blah blah.
Talk to you fine folks much later this evening, one hopes....
All of you copying Ramesh have forgotten the corrected copy. Please update your files.
And use the new cover sheet for your TPS reports, dammit!
Freak F1 tornado in Vancouver Washington. Only 8 tornados in this area since 1950 and never one in January.
sol
our dixieland band raised $ for the school that was heavily damaged there in 1972, and took a field trip to deliver the paltry sum from our little berg down south.
Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child.
Next he'll suggest you dig their graves yourself.
Once you acknowledge 'incentives matter' all kinds of social engineering becomes possible. This isn't something conservatives really want to acknowledge.
pigboy, that sucks
Scoop is a liberal plot to keep Redstate.com down, man.
My eye!
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Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child.
Next he'll suggest you dig their graves yourself.
SteveNS, square
I saved a fortune in September. Instead of buying back to school supplies and clothes I just sent the kids to go work in the mines and sweat shops.
I know this won't come as a surprise to anyone here, but Tom DeLay lied to everyone, and moved back to Texas.
I was able to purchase a brand new doughnut cutter at Ace Hardware!
Film at 11.
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GWPDA, Arthur & Angel
Jeez, I thought that with our purchase of s potato ricer we had Every Kitchen Gadget That Ever Was.
Being from the union-hating South I might not be up on unions, but that does not sound like a contract a union would negotiate.
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I agree. But I have had this happen before at non Master Freight companies which are now out of buisness. But since one company has bought up nearly all the Master Freight companies things have changed. Hoffas not good for Master Freight where the big money is and I think he has sold us out with this one. It will save one company hundreds of millions of dollars if it does pass.
Giving government subsidies and tax exemptions to corporations already making billions in profits each year has been the practice of Gooper administrations (i.e., ExxonMobile, et. al.), not to mention the tax breaks to their CEOs, CFOs and Board of Director friends.
But I guess that's "good supply side" crappola!
Do they allow disguises at Eschacon '08? I'll lose 1/2 of my consulting contracts if anyone figures out it is me that posts this shit here.
a union that is getting paid off by mgmt would
Well, see, I didn't know unions did that. Getting paid off by mgmt, I mean.
Do they allow disguises at Eschacon '08? I'll lose 1/2 of my consulting contracts if anyone figures out it is me that posts this shit here.
Troutski
I thought there was something fishy about you...
I saved a fortune in September. Instead of buying back to school supplies and clothes I just sent the kids to go work in the mines and sweat shops.
George Johnston
Well, sure -- it's the natural order!
pigboy, that sucks
ErinPDX | 01.12.08 - 3:51 pm | #
Yes it does. The ballots go out on the 14th of this month and many locals will not hold meetings on the proposal till the 20th of this month. We will only have a couple of weeks to return ballots. The whole thing is being rushed through. Our contract ends in June but they want the contract passed by Feb.
Being a supply-sider is about recognizing that incentives matter. One of the natural incentives to raise children is to care for ourselves in old-age. Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child.
My supply-sider ancestors would throw their eldery into pits of dogs, who would fight over them and eat the meat.
Would wingers really feel it necessary to sneak a spy into Eschacon? Well, maybe, if Paul Krugman attends again. You could tell the Kossacs that they're welcome too if they promise not to get too meta.
In the conservative view of things, parents are disposable.
As soon as you're fully weaned and can give them the finger.
It's their greatest family value!
Well, see, I didn't know unions did that. Getting paid off by mgmt, I mean.
And while I was joking. This the Teamsters we're talking about. This is the big leagues. Too much money would have to be involved to escape notice.
Do they allow disguises at Eschacon '08?
I went last time disguised as a hyperactive liberal.
ErinPDX | 01.12.08 - 3:50 pm | #
The tornado hit only 3 block from my house. I was very lucky, only lost power for 6 hours.
"Giving government subsidies and tax exemptions to corporations already making billions in profits each year has been the practice of Gooper administrations (i.e., ExxonMobile, et. al.), not to mention the tax breaks to their CEOs, CFOs and Board of Director friends."
Some Democrats say they could support tax relief focused on lower-income people and, perhaps, even tax cuts for corporations, if the White House and the Republican Congressional leadership accept some spending increases like extended unemployment benefits or aid to states to help them avert spending cuts.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/1...s/
12fiscal.html
My supply-sider ancestors would throw their eldery into pits of dogs, who would fight over them and eat the meat.
Uncle NTodd
Doughy Pantload would be useful in that case. One wouldn't have to run faster than a bear.
You've seen 'em, but these pictures make me happy.
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My supply-sider ancestors would throw their eldery into pits of dogs, who would fight over them and eat the meat.
Dammit!
The politically correct term for a 'supply-sider' is: Stakeholder in The Big Con.
Get it right, people.
I can't STAND those radio Ace Hardware commercials with John Madden where the person whistles out of tune. UGH!
"Citizen Kane"
"Raging Bull"
"There Will Be Blood"
It's fair to compare 'em, people.
And while I was joking. This the Teamsters we're talking about. This is the big leagues. Too much money would have to be involved to escape notice.
Snow, Liberal | 01.12.08 - 3:56 pm | #
I wish I could believe that but with shrubs justice department and department of labor, I think it could happen easily.
Jeez, I thought that with our purchase of s potato ricer we had Every Kitchen Gadget That Ever Was.
Do you have a Xian baby broiling rack? I hear it was because of social security that Jesus got nailed to the cross.
The politically correct term for a 'supply-sider' is: Stakeholder in The Big Con.
I don't think it appropriate to use the anachronistic term since I was discussing my ancestors.
Do they allow disguises at Eschacon '08?
Like NTodd, I was disguised as well.
Only, I was disguised as an ignorant Texan.
Oh, wait...
For old times'sake...
watertiger
I must have seen that 20 times, and it makes me LOL every single time.
It's fair to compare 'em, people.
ME wanna SEEEEE!
I wonder why I can't access a certain candidate's website.
Daniel Day-Lewis is one of the best screen actors working today.
It's a PRAIRIE DAWG, folx!
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nap time... better yet... weekend nap time.
McCain is bringing along his adopted Bangladeshi child to campaign in South Carolina. And the talking head on CNN is trying to claim it has nothing to do with 2000.
ME wanna SEEEEE!
It's a MOVIE movie.
speaking of investigations being not meant to produce real evidence, see http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080...ebIBLvJ6bCs0NUE
OMG I just heard that Obama fathered a black child.... this will ruin him for sure
back to napping
I wonder why I can't access a certain candidate's website.
Because I unpublished it.
Maybe in front of big changes to it.
Patriots play tonight. Hope they can keep the perfect season going and roll on to the SuperBowl.
It will make the New England winter a little easier to take.
Do they allow disguises at Eschacon '08?
Like NTodd, I was disguised as well.
Only, I was disguised as an ignorant Texan.
Oh, wait...
David (Austin Tx)
I'll be practicing how not to be seen.
I'm getting quite good at it.
Being a supply-sider is about recognizing that incentives matter. One of the natural incentives to raise children is to care for ourselves in old-age. Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child.
First Jonah Goldberg tells me Im a Nazi Liberal Stalinist,and now THIS shithead?
If you turn this into a scoop blog all the diaries will consist of frist!
Do they allow disguises at Eschacon '08? I'll lose 1/2 of my consulting contracts if anyone figures out it is me that posts this shit here.
No, read "Eschaton Fascism, From Watertiger to Thers: How Snark Destroyed the American Family and Threatens My Ever Getting a Blow Job
-Jonah
So the childless among us are supposed to, what, starve? Have the sense to be born rich? Start saving when we're 12? Work until we die?
okay, gotta get off so some one can call me.
Diane found a great cartoon (and info about the big guns in that speedboat attack) at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com
Good lord, the last thing I want to do is move in with my kids when I'm old. Like now. And I like and get along with them. Jeebus, can't I have a little fun.
Don't make me get medieval on your asses!
Stakeholder in The Big Con is the only allowed term. Nothing else, dammit!
"So the childless among us are supposed to, what, starve? Have the sense to be born rich? Start saving when we're 12? Work until we die?"
If someone doesn't have child, they are incapable of investing intelligently for retirement?
Not having a child is a considerable cost savings.
Why these two countries' health systems diverged over the last 40 years is subject to historical debate. One explanation is that, during the period when Canada and most other developed nations introduced a publicly funded health system, the American government was investing a large portion of its GDP (roughly 7.5%[28]) into the military due to the Cold War and thus simply couldn't afford to fund public health care. By the time the Cold War had eased, consensus on government involvement in the economy had broken down, so it was all but impossible to introduce new spending programs on the scale of a national health plan. As it is, the U.S. government spends more on health care than on Social Security and national defense combined, according to the Brookings Institute.[29]
Another explanation is that Canada's parliamentary system makes the passage of legislation easier. Bill Clinton did have a plan for universal coverage, but his plan did not come to a vote in either house of Congress, let alone win a majority or survive a filibuster. It is difficult to imagine parliament similarly dismissing the centerpiece of a prime minister's agenda because the government would otherwise fall due to the principle of responsible government; in a majority government, that would mean party members voting against its own Cabinet, in contrast to the rarer minority government where failure to gain support of other parties would fell the government. The appointed Senate very rarely vetoes a bill, serving as a "house of sober second thought" and simply tables amendments if needed. Additionally, most bills come from the government itself, in contrast to the American Presidential system. The Canada Health Act was passed under a majority government in 1984.
So there. Time to go read to Arthur from The Dangerous Book for Dogs.
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Not having a child is a considerable cost savings.
Are you fucking human?
Oh gee, "Gladiator" is on again.
"He vexes me. I am terribly, terribly vexed."
"Social Security and Medicare have broken that link, crowding out that natural tie between parent and child."
So, if you decide not to have children you're flat out of luck.
Also, I have discovered my children need support from me more than I did when I was their age. And they ain't lazy.
Oh yes - I was able to hide, move, conceal or otherwise obscure just about all the fascist 'books' at my local Barnes & Noble. The best one was overlaying Glen Beck with re-issued copies of Ernie Pyle's "This is Your War"....
Maybe in front of big changes to it.
We can haz pictures now?
For old times'sake...
I really like the Kill Bill version.
Wow... someone's reading from Vanderbilt, on a Saturday...
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So to be a Stakeholder in The Big Con one must believe that Social Security is bad for families because Grandma won't have to sponge off of her kids.
Also a Stakeholder in The Big Con believes that the Iraq war is good because sending all those one weekend a month people away for two years is the best thing for a family.
Oh gee, "Gladiator" is on again.
Can't compete with "Dirty Dancing" for the number of times TV shows it.
"DD" has been shown at least a gazillion times and there's no end in sight!
I really like the Kill Bill version.
Have you seen the Darth Vader version?
FBI Finds Blackwater Trucks Patched
WASHINGTON (AP) - Blackwater Worldwide repaired and repainted its trucks immediately after a deadly September shooting in Baghdad, making it difficult to determine whether enemy gunfire provoked the attack, according to people familiar with the government's investigation of the incident.
Damage to the vehicles in the convoy has been held up by Blackwater as proof that its security guards were defending themselves against an insurgent ambush when they fired into a busy intersection, leaving 17 Iraqi civilians dead.
U.S. military investigators initially found "no enemy activity involved" and the Iraqi government concluded the shootings were unprovoked.
Oh yes - I was able to hide, move, conceal or otherwise obscure just about all the fascist 'books' at my local Barnes & Noble.
Heh.
Oddly enough, similar phenomena have been observed here in NY.
"DD" has been shown at least a gazillion times and there's no end in sight!
"Nobody puts Maximus in the corner!"
It's fair to compare 'em, people.
It's the Jonny Greenwood score that's got me most intrigued.
Warren Buffett offered the Forbes 400 $1,000,000 cash to any one of them who could prove that they paid a higher tax rate than their secretary. Not one of 400 people took him up on it. Though none of them would need $1,000,000.
Have you seen the Darth Vader version?
Yes. And the David Caruso version!
I don't know why these assholes keep going on and on about how Social Security should end.
It's never going to happen.
Ever.
It's sort of like us wishing that wingnuts would disappear. That's never going to happen, either. Fortunately, the influence of wingnuttia ebbs and flows, while Social Security is, to their constant frustration and foaming at the mouth, forever.
BWHAHAHHAHAHHA!
I'm back. I think I know what made me melancholic earlier. This morning, we went to the organic grocery store, and our 8-mo old daughter got her very first balloon. It absolutely thrilled her, which, for the benefit of the non-parents out there, is a wonderful thing to behold. But on the way home, I found myself recalling a balloon I was given, and the sadness I felt at seeing it float away in the sky. I think I was 3 when this happened. I guess I made a connection in my mind between a child’s balloon and bad things happening, and it depressed me to think that someday, bad things would happen to her.
Times like this, I wish the world was a very different place.
Here's an actblue page by someone who is suggesting a radically new approach to campaign financing.
The gist of it is that if we all gave a dollar, we could fund a campaign like Edwards'.
The idea is to see just how far we can go with the minimum amount necessary, because anything more can corrupt the system.
This could help prepare the ground for the beginning of stigmatizing all big money donors the way we do, say, the tobacco lobby.
Anyway, food for thought.
"As it is, the U.S. government spends more on health care than on Social Security and national defense combined, according to the Brookings Institute."
That's a suspect claim.
Also, I have discovered my children need support from me more than I did when I was their age. And they ain't lazy.
Yep. I think a financial accounting could show a lot of parents supporting their adult kids.
It's the Jonny Greenwood score that's got me most intrigued.
You know, I had no idea who did that music until the credits rolled at the end, but I loved it.
Not one of 400 people took him up on it.
Snow, Liberal
That's because they would have been taxed on the $1 million. A reasonable person needs incentives!
Remains of adult, fetus found; Marine charged
Human remains, including that of an infant, were discovered Saturday in a shallow pit in the backyard of the primary suspect in the death of a pregnant Marine.
So, "fetus", or "infant"?
The slippery slope continues.
It's sort of like us wishing that wingnuts would disappear.
It's like wishing for gravity to end because it's such a downer, man.
That's because they would have been taxed on the $1 million. A reasonable person needs incentives!
Actually they would not have been taxed on the money. Buffett would have had to pay a gift tax.
Times like this, I wish the world was a very different place.
Bat Guano
I really believe that learning how to handle little disappointments like a balloon floating away prepares us to handle the more difficult heartbreaks that are going to come our way. Parents do their children no favors by over protecting them. Though, it's hard to stifle the urge.
it depressed me to think that someday, bad things would happen to her.
Good things, too -- lots of good things. Love, beauty, passion, curiosity, friendship, the love of her parents . . .
Keep that in mind.
Million dollar sheets!
Hey Joy Boy ... how's your flu?
"forever"
Nothing is forever. The five skandhas are empty.
SS doesn't "cost" the US anything. The government is returning money paid into it by recipients.
In fact, if Bushboy and the Goopers didn't have SS surpluses to dip into, they'd have to borrow even more from Japan and China!
Though, it's hard to stifle the urge.
qlª
you can say that again
and again and again!!
I wish Republicans would run on a perpetual "Social Security must be destroyed" platform.
They'd never win another local, state, or national office again. It would be fucking great.
qlª | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 4:15 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Couldn't agree more. Still, I'd prefer a vastly different world for her than the one she is likely to inherent from us.
In a fair world, Goopers and their fascist ilk would not exist.
Rudy,
Dough Bob Load Pants has thrown down the gauntlet. You can't say "Facist" anymore.
/falls off chair laughing
"SS doesn't "cost" the US anything. The government is returning money paid into it by recipients."
Ha.
Damn fascists! They even think they can control the definition of words!
So there. Time to go read to Arthur from The Dangerous Book for Dogs.
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GWPDA, Arthur & Angel
There's also the American myth of the "rugged individual," which played heavily into rejecting "socialized medicine."
Never underestimate the effects of "culture." Especially when that culture is based on an ignorance of history which is truly stunning, and virtually impenetrable.
Damn fascists! They even think they can control the definition of words!
Rudy
"When I use a word, it means precisely what I want it to mean; neither more nor less."--Humpty Dumpty to Alice
Obviusly Lewis Carroll was a fascist.
"Be excellent to each other or I'll turn this into a Scoop blog."
From your lips to, er well, your ears.
I'll defend to the death the right of any commenter to gleefully make the bold claim 'Frist!!!!!', but it does kind of limit the opportunity to actually engage in dialogue. Threaded thread not being a bad thing.
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