I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
hidee ho!
Or, is that, hi diddley ho!
Impeach!
Or maybe...
Ho' diddley ho...
Just because it pisses off Thers: Eyes Wide Shut is the modern The Dead (and not the Huston version).
How many "Rock On" late night threads have actually paid homage to David Essex?
Bo Diddley?
OK -- slate - g'nite!
...gotta confess, even with this new fancy hi-speed intertubes, a new thread is still nice after 700 comments...
NTodd, Super Grand Poomba
Did you get your supplemental hovercraft mail?
OK, I edited it down. Others can do better I would imagine. (Go for it)
McCain on pumping gas and the price, "I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters."
We can't fit this on either a Tee Shirt or bumper sticker?
Chimpeach!
shawk - yes! thanks! but legislation? seems a cheating way...
McCain on pumping gas and the price, "I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters."
McCain on how much longer he figures to live: "I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters."
No way there's 66 visitors online.
McCain on pumping gas and the price, "I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters."
We can't fit this on either a Tee Shirt or bumper sticker?
"I don't see how gas prices matter."
Not a quote, but who the fuck cares?
McCain on gas price, "I don’t see how it matters."
"Gas prices don't matter."
McCain / Bandar Bush '08
An hour of minimum wage soon won't buy a gallon of gas.
Just because it pisses off Thers: Eyes Wide Shut is the modern The Dead (and not the Huston version).
You're so cute when you express opinions.
McCain on pumping gas and the price, "I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters."
We can't fit this on either a Tee Shirt or bumper sticker? DWD
McCain with death head smile next to gas sigh with $6.89 / $6.99 / $7.29.
"I don't see how this matters."
Vote McBush.
Goodnight, folks. Be good to each other.
Brought up from below:
It didn't. That was the point. Hell, it was the same with Bill Murray's character in Stripes. There's always a smart ass who thinks he can get away with not changing, with not becoming a cog in the machine. They all do.
It's the Hollywood conceit. The reality is that the entire purpose of boot camp is to grind you into a nice cog that works in the machine. Of course, Hollywood is not about reality, it's about fantasy. Hence you've got guys like Private Joker and John Winger bucking the system and getting away with what is considered to be equivalent to murder in the military.
BTW, those "Lord of the Flies" things happen because the easiest way to impose discipline is peer pressure, and making the other cogs uncomfortable will cause them to focus on the square peg, to get it to round.
Mass punishment for the actions of an individual happens frequently, in order to suss out the individual responsible.
McCain on gas price, "I don’t see how it matters."
Let's hope he uses that for his campaign commercials...
shawk - yes! thanks! but legislation? seems a cheating way... NTodd, Super Grand Poomba
Also see, low auto emissions legialation.
Besides, I'd like to get paid while I can spend the money on hookers and coke.
Once upon a time, I met Lyle (& Bonnie Raitt) -- I gave Lyle my card & told him to get in touch if he ever needed a monk -- I could have told him that Julis Roberts wasn't right for him! Bonnie told me I had a great beard!
Prior Aelred
You get around, for a man of the cloth.
Just because it pisses off Thers: Eyes Wide Shut is the modern The Dead (and not the Huston version).
Jaysus that book sucks.
Older people often start becoming obsessed with their own death. They just do. They start thinking about it all of the time.
Doan wan that guy near the button, thanks.
It's the Hollywood conceit. The reality is that the entire purpose of boot camp is to grind you into a nice cog that works in the machine. Of course, Hollywood is not about reality, it's about fantasy. Hence you've got guys like Private Joker and John Winger bucking the system and getting away with what is considered to be equivalent to murder in the military.
Point taken. But I don't think Joker gets away with it, unlike in Stripes (which of course is a comedy). Notice how good a Marine he becomes after the initial scenes. The John Wayne swagger is still there in the shit, but it's all in the confines of what you'd expect from a good soldier. Unlike Murray (which was a specious comparison, I know, but apt for the Hollywood angle).
BTW, those "Lord of the Flies" things happen because the easiest way to impose discipline is peer pressure, and making the other cogs uncomfortable will cause them to focus on the square peg, to get it to round.
I always call it the Chinese Enforcement. Your cadre gets punished for shit you do, with the expectation that you'll enforce the norms on the black sheep.
You're so cute when you express opinions.
Want a binky?
Figmentation.
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What do:
this song
this song
this song
and
this song
all have in common? And does anyone know of any others, because I am sure there are more.
I always call it the Chinese Enforcement. Your cadre gets punished for shit you do
Roman decimation. You lose a battle, every ten soldiers had to draw lots to determine who the other nine would kill.
Yahwellllll ... nytol!
Roman decimation. You lose a battle, every ten soldiers had to draw lots to determine who the other nine would kill.
MP
So now we know where the Chimperor got his morale building skillz
Let's hope he uses that for his campaign commercials...
George Johnston
That's it: perfect.
Copyright that son of a bitch and let's get the presses rolling. Perfect. Succint to the point and devastating.
Let it roll on out of Eschaton and through the known world.
McCain on gas price, "I don’t see how it matters."
I have a friend who went into the army when older, didn't buy into the head games from the drill sargeant. They don't always break you down.
McCain on pumping gas and the price, "I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters."
We can't fit this on either a Tee Shirt or bumper sticker?
DWD - S☮S |
Make a great viral video. If video is available
I always call it the Chinese Enforcement. Your cadre gets punished for shit you do, with the expectation that you'll enforce the norms on the black sheep.
This works out in combat as you wind up not fighting (and potentially dying) for your country, or to protect your family and home, but for your brothers in arms. The "band of brothers" thing is very, very real.
Could we ask Atrios to replace the HULK SMASH with
McCain on gas price, "I don’t see how it matters."
This works out in combat as you wind up not fighting (and potentially dying) for your country, or to protect your family and home, but for your brothers in arms. The "band of brothers" thing is very, very real.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
And then a shit-eating draft-dodger uses your commitment to your comrades as evidence of you belief in and support for his Great Oedipal Quest.
I have a friend who went into the army when older, didn't buy into the head games from the drill sargeant. They don't always break you down.
One of the purposes of boot camp is to wipe out years of socialization and replace it with a new social construct.
Older recruits have enough life experience to feign total compliance and to understand the process.
Kids right out of high school usually do not.
"Barack Obama and John McCain both got standing ovations..."
Uh, nice balanced reporting.
The "band of brothers" thing is very, very real.
That's always been my impression. I never would choose the path that many of my relatives, including my cos in the Corps, but man, they have a lot of guts and for lack of a better term, esprit de corps (in simels' case it would be 'espit de corps' right?). Yeah, I'd be Upham in Private Ryan...
I'll note, of course, there are other ways to have that same sense of comradery, but baptism by fire certainly, uh...enhances the development process.
The "band of brothers" thing is very, very real.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
I can't imagine it working out any other way. Scared soldiers clawing together to make it out of there. It's probably why they gave the new kid, just "in country", the cold shoulder at times.
And then a shit-eating draft-dodger uses your commitment to your comrades as evidence of you belief in and support for his Great Oedipal Quest.
Once you're tossed into the shit, all that other stuff becomes irrelevant, and the guy to the left of you and the right of you constitutes the universe. Your survival depends on them, as their survival depends on you.
What happens in macrospace kind of does not enter into it when you're crouched behind the ruins of a wall trying to avoid being hit by a sniper.
Older recruits have enough life experience to feign total compliance and to understand the process.
Kids right out of high school usually do not.
Exactly. And we used the draft for the Vietnam War, not everyone was 18.
I'll note, of course, there are other ways to have that same sense of comradery, but baptism by fire certainly, uh...enhances the development process.
There are, and it's always very special and memorable when it happens.
And then a shit-eating draft-dodger uses your commitment to your comrades as evidence of you belief in and support for his Great Oedipal Quest.
This is what breaks my heart about Iraq; all those very intense, heart wrentching experiences that come at such an incredibly high cost are being squandered to feed the appetites of a sociopath.
But, of course, this bonding only works for westerners. Those middle east types can be broken with Shock & Awe, money, propaganda TV and radio, "enhanced interrogation", and just the sight of our steely resolve. They will give up annnnnnnny moment now....
Off to read The Robotics Primer
I've never been in the military, though my father was. But from reading a lot of military accounts, I think that as much as the Pentagon wants to prepare these not yet ready to shave kids for combat during boot, they can't really get the gut fear into them. That can only come from flying steel.
Not that they aren't trained well. Fuck, their robotic training keeps them alive under those circumstances.
In short, the Pentagon wants to train these kids to do just one thing under fire.
Don't panic.
But, of course, this bonding only works for westerners. Those middle east types can be broken with Shock & Awe, money, propaganda TV and radio, "enhanced interrogation", and just the sight of our steely resolve. They will give up annnnnnnny moment now....
It's really easy for dilletants like the deserting coward, Crash Cart, and von Rumsfucked to underestimate the Hajji. To imagine them as less than human.
Because that's how they view their own subordinates.
Later folk.
I'm informed that this is my bed time.
Has anyone heard of a blogger called The Anchoress? Apparently, this, via Wolcott, is intended in all sincerity. I can tell if it's frightening or worse:
A more dulcet defense has been crafted by The Anchoress, who seems be crossing Peggy Noonan's bridge of sighs with a basket of pearly sentiments.
"As Mother Angelica liked to say, before she lost her power of speech, "you might be the only Christ your neighbor ever sees." I think Tim Russert had become for Quinn, and for many of his colleagues, the very face of Christ - the only Christ they had ever seen. And now all they knew of Christ has been taken from them."
http://www.vanityfair.com/online...online/wolcott/
Have we had enough of cats and dogs today?
Or even my puddies?
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BlueinColorado: now *that* is an advertisement for staying away from religion. Sheeesh... if Russert was Christ, what does that make Bill Moyers?
Has anyone heard of a blogger called The Anchoress?
I have. A wingnut of the nth order.
Tomorrow I have to weed the brick path. If I could do it over I'd use concrete under it.
At first, I thought she was mocking the DC types for treating Russert like Christ, but I think she really means he was like a jesuit missionary among the secularist heathens of Georgetown.
"Tomorrow I have to weed the brick path."
torch or roundup.
torch or roundup.
Sounds attractive, especially after all the band-aids I have to put on my knuckles. But there are roots under the path, connected to trees and such.
If Russert is christ in death what's going to happen when billo gets dead?
Wow. Who knew there was such a thing as YouPorn?
Richard Cranium: Wow. Who knew there was such a thing as YouPorn?
You'll get eye-pregnant!
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The first episode of SNL ever, with George Carlin, is just starting. Weird that the opening skit contains two dead people.
Has anyone heard of a blogger called The Anchoress? Apparently, this, via Wolcott, is intended in all sincerity. I can tell if it's frightening or worse
...in her case, you will not stray far from the true path in defaulting to "worse". You can google her if you so wish and read some of her stuff, but she is the sort of Roman Catholic that Huggy Bear won't have to work much to convince...
It's 'Duty, Honor, Country'. In that order. The sequence is far from a coincidence.
EM Forster famously said that, given the choice between betraying his friend and his country, he hoped he'd have the courage to betray his country...
You'll get eye-pregnant!
I'm sure he wears thick glasses.
"But there are roots under the path, connected to trees and such."
roundup won't hurt 'em.
I'm sure he wears thick glasses.
I do try and practice safe surfing.
It's why I revere Medal of Honor winners.
Hell, many, probably most, were scared out of their fucking minds when the shit went down.
But something must have changed within them at some point, and quickly. Adrenaline, comraderie, who knows?
But these young men in combat just went apeshit, and in an instant put up the next 65 years or so of their lives to get just one thing done, and to get it done right now.
It takes an *enormous* amount of beauacracy to get awarded a Medal of Honor.
And rightly so.
I'm just fascinated by the stories of the recipients.
roundup won't hurt 'em.
No? Oh joy!
reno 911: so stupid it's good.
Carlin's famous football/baseball routine!
NTodd, wish you a safe and fun trip and that Gracie will turn up soon.
reno 911: so stupid it's good.
I never saw the appeal of that show.
Something else named Eschaton...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esc...ton_%28album%
29
Eschaton is the third album by British post-black metal band Anaal Nathrakh. Musically, the album continues in the direction of the previous album, Domine Non Es Dignus, moving further away from the chaotic, wall-of-noise grindcore excursions of The Codex Necro, into simpler verse-chorus song structures with occasional clean vocals and more melodic riffs. However most reviewers (digitalmetal.com, Terrorizer magazine and so on) have commented that the overall atmosphere and production are at the same time a step back towards the out-and-out ferocity of the band's debut. The music is still intense, featuring hyperfast drum machine blast beats and V.I.T.R.I.O.L.'s harsh vocals.
The album is also significant in featuring significant guest appearances by Shane Embury (Embryonymous) on bass and Attila Csihar on vocals, the latter offering vocal work on the track "Regression To The Mean", according to the accompanying booklet.
Classic George Carlin on SNL.
RIP friend.
It takes an *enormous* amount of beauacracy to get awarded a Medal of Honor.
Wish Maj. Winters would get his...
From what little I have seen of Reno 911 I feel too embarrassed for the characters to watch more. Probably a dumb reaction but there it is.
"No? Oh joy!"
nope. it gets absorbed thru the weed's vegetation, not it's roots. we use it around trees all the time.
Oh, what a revelation. Saturday Night Live was never funny.
Classic George Carlin on SNL.
RIP friend.
Mr French | 06.28.08 - 11:40 pm | #
He looks like Russell Crowe
From what little I have seen of Reno 911 I feel too embarrassed for the characters to watch more. Probably a dumb reaction but there it is.
Reno 911 is to Cops as Colbert Report is to O'Reilly.
Songs from the Eschaton album...
"Bellum Omnium Contra Omnes" - 03:16
"Between Shit and Piss We Are Born" - 03:54
"Timewave Zero" - 03:01
"The Destroying Angel" - 03:11
"Waiting for the Barbarians" - 04:46
"The Yellow King" - 04:54
"When the Lion Devours Both Dragon and Child" - 04:57
"The Necrogeddon" - 04:11
"Regression to the Mean" - 03:12
I've heard decorated people, including Medal of Honor winners, talk about their actions in sort of a removed tone, as if they required no special courage, but, rather, there simply wasn't another option available and they just did what they had to do. Meanwhile, their actions are often incomprehensible to those not in such situations.
Had a debate about courage with a friend of mine. He had no problem sailing a small boat across the Atlantic. Almost got dismasted. Kept an illegal machine rifle aboard after he'd nearly been boarded by hostiles off the Black Sea coast. That sort of thing. He never married; couldn't commit, though every five to ten years he's given a perfectly decent opportunity to; he's a hell of a decent guy. He finds my action in adopting children incomprehensively brave.
still 94
not enough beer in the world to get me drunk right now.
It's 100 here. Was at a friend's cookout, but it's too hot to drink alcohol. It makes me queasy. I'm home now, in the only room with an air conditioner and starting to feel human again. And will consume more alcohol very soon.
Hey, is that my cousin on SNL?
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ProfWombat, people fear very different things for all sorts of reasons having to do with past experiences, character and so on. In a way each of us could be a hero in the right situation and each of us could be a coward. But I think being a coward and still daring is the real heroism.
SNL did used to have the coolest musical acts, though. Now it's basically just a conduit for whatever crap is being pushed by record labels.
SNL is how I was first exposed to Talking Heads, blew me away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Imm...ze_the_eschaton
To immanentize the eschaton means trying to make the eschaton (the transcendent, uncreated, spiritual, or future; the end of days, see eschatology) in the immanent (within the limits of possible experience) world. More recently, it has been used by conservatives as pejorative against what they perceive as utopian schemes, such as socialism, communism, etc. It has also been used by Christian libertarians to criticize George W. Bush and the neo-conservative movement.[1] In all these contexts it means "trying to make that which belongs to the afterlife happen here and now (on Earth)" or "trying to create heaven here on Earth."
puppethead: SNL is how I was first exposed to Talking Heads, blew me away.
Zappa, Runt, Lene Lovich and Sugarcubes, even.
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I'm voting for Bob Roberts...
Oh, what a revelation. Saturday Night Live was never funny. -paz
yoe daddy thought it was -
I'm voting for Bob Roberts...
Tim Robbins would kick your ass.
Society equates heroism with the 'Faux Macho' bullshit in movies, Rambo, Chuck Norris, etc. In reality, those guys get killed pretty quick, while the real heroes are regular folks who were probably scared shitless but still did what they had to do to get a job done.
My co-writer of Silent Screams was nominated for teh Congressional Medal of Honor. he did not receive it. He did receive: Two Purple Hearts, A Bronze Star, Two Silver Stars with Oak Leave Clusters, and Two Distinguished Service Crosses. All of these were for serving as a medic during the Korean Conflict.
When I asked him about his actions thinking that we should include another chapter or two with these included. He simply would not even hear of it.
He wanted nothing to do with these actions. They embarrassed him or something like that. I never got the sense of it totally. I know that he did not want exploit them.
Well, we've finally done it. We've found the stupidest people on Earth. Thanks to Jeffraham Prestonian, who's shined the light on these scattering roaches. Blecch.
Yes, it's the last people who support Chimpy. And they're so deluded, it's frightening.
Prof Wombat, that sounds like some of my relatives stories from the Depression and WWII. Times were very tough and it's horrifying to realize the things people had to do to survive. They were mostly very matter of fact about it all, it's just what needed to be done.
BTW, I'm not talking about anything illegal. They were creative and stubborn.
Echidne: that's precisely what I was trying to say. The true hero is the victor in the struggle within, not the actor without.
I take Joseph Campbell with a large measure of salt, but some of his ideas about heroism ring true: the journey, the mentor/model, the time in the desert or the belly of the beast, the return.
God, how high did you have to be to think that Kauffman bit was funny?
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And I see JP is here tonight.
d00d, your original link has given me nightmares ... and I haven't even slept since.
I've left like four comments over there and I still don't feel better. Yikes.
Courage is doing shit that needs to be done even if you're pissing your leg whilst doing it.
Me, I'm afraid to clean my fridge. And I'm not belittling the concept.
God, how high did you have to be to think that Kauffman bit was funny?
Guilty as charged.
From what little I have seen of Reno 911 I feel too embarrassed for the characters to watch more. Probably a dumb reaction but there it is.
Reno 911 is to Cops as Colbert Report is to O'Reilly.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Heh. Reno 911 is silly, goofy, and brilliantly funny, IMO.
NTodd: if you offer the family of raccoons living there an eggroll each, maybe they'll leave long enough for you to do what needs to be done. It's OK to negotiate...
I take Joseph Campbell with a large measure of salt, but some of his ideas about heroism ring true: the journey, the mentor/model, the time in the desert or the belly of the beast, the return.
Yes. And some of the trips are completely internal, trips to fight the inner demons of illness or depression or the past. Sometimes the solution is to forgive the demons rather than fight them, though.
This is probably unrelated but I was thinking today how I never heard WWII described in positive terms when I was growing up. It was more like:"Yes, it had to happen. But it was horrible, horrible, horrible." It's only here that I read the sort of glowing descriptions of the war, and I wonder if it's because the true wrath of the war never touched the civilian population here the way it did in most European countries. I guess I'm trying to see why "heroes" don't see themselves as heroes. They are past that in some ways.
Me, I'm afraid to clean my fridge. And I'm not belittling the concept.
NTodd
there is only Zuhle ...
Seriously, they're quoting some guy who is touting the "7 years of solid [economic] growth" under Bush.
I'll have what he's smoking.
The Medal of Honor is the only United States military medal allowed to be worn as a neck device.
Each service has a slightly different medal design, but all of them them take that shit extremely seriously.
To paraphrase Napoleon, "You can get young people to do anything with a few bits of ribbon", the Medal of Honor transcends that if only because it's by far awarded posthumously.
"Heh. Reno 911 is silly, goofy, and brilliantly funny, IMO."
and from what i understand, they just wing it.
Sinfonian: I've left like four comments over there and I still don't feel better. Yikes.
Yeah, them's my local wingers.
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108th!
still 94
not enough beer in the world to get me drunk right now.
ErinPDX
Imagine what a wonderful world it would be if we lived in a part of the country where air conditioning were a common part of the residential experience...
Saturday Night Live was funny when Belushi et al. were cooking in the '70's.
However, they didn't really settle on the sketch comedy format until about 5 shows in. You can't judge it by that first show.
Me, I'm afraid to clean my fridge. And I'm not belittling the concept.
NTodd
Throw it all out. Ask NTodd's pa to be there for you.
Society equates heroism with the 'Faux Macho' bullshit in movies, Rambo, Chuck Norris, etc. In reality, those guys get killed pretty quick, while the real heroes are regular folks who were probably scared shitless but still did what they had to do to get a job done.
Real WWII combat Marines loathed John Wayne.
To this very day, the term "John Wayne" is used not as praise, but in belittlement in the Army.
NTodd: if you offer the family of raccoons living there an eggroll each, maybe they'll leave long enough for you to do what needs to be done.
Nearest Chinese is too far away. I figure I can tactically advance to the rear and declare victory.
concern: realizing for the first time you can't do something a second time.
panic: realizing for the second time you can't do something the first time.
Janis Ian, wow.
Janis Ian - Gay when gay was really a frightening thing to be. (With a lovely voice and wonderful music. I am a big fan)
still 94
not enough beer in the world to get me drunk right now.
ErinPDX
Down here in TrackTown it's in the mid-70's now, the temperature has dropped 20 degrees in the last four hours.
Muslim or not, Hussein is on the record saying that if push comes to shove he will side with his ideological muslim brothers or, if Islamism isn't involved, with his black brothers against "all typical" others. That's in his autobiography and in his own words. Has it been determined yet when he stopped using and dealing drugs? How about the drug usage of his spouse?
Echidne: well, World War II brought America firmly out of the Depression, gave the country a sense of national purpose. Everybody worked their asses off and performed miracles of production. Implacable, vicious and wholly evil enemies were defeated utterly. The war was mythologized almost immediately; were you to ask 100 Americans, I'd bet well less than a majority could identify the Battle of Kursk. And after the war, America was left the undisputed, overwhelming economic and military force in the world, its civilian infrastructure completely intact.
No wonder, really.
Because it has to be said:
Fuck off jack.
6. Dignity has been restored to the office of the US Presidency. There is a dress code in the oval office
http://hollywoodprop.com/
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jack | 06.28.08 - 11:59 pm
FORP
Copulate with insecticide, Jack!
God, we were all so better off just being able to watch SNL 38 years ago.
6. Dignity has been restored to the office of the US Presidency. There is a dress code in the oval office
Richard
that's 33
mike in PR: God, we were all so better off just being able to watch SNL 38 years ago.
It wasn't that long ago. 1975? 1976?
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ADH: William Manchester, a Marine sharpshooter and later historian, in 'Goodbye, Darkness', a wonderful and harrowing memoir of the Pacific war, recounts an incident when, shortly after demobilization, he and some fellow Marines were thrown out of a theatre for laughing raucously at John Wayne as he swept the South Pacific of the Japs...
1975 for SNL IIRC.
I seem to have developed a knack for scrolling past troll comments.
Not that I have any regrets.
the Medal of Honor transcends that if only because it's by far awarded posthumously.
IIRC the Victoria Cross could not be awarded posthumously in the British Army until about halfway through WWI.
Apprentice Johnson is right!
SNL premiered in 1975.
...so Cindy McCain is actually 'jack' and is trying to throw us off her trail?
Who knew?!?
Izat Buck Henry?
SNL premiered in 1975.
Sinfonian, exasperated | Homepage | 06.29.08 - 12:03 am | #
Correct! For $100
Carlin on SNL tonight? Luv it.
Yes, this is the first SNL ever.
Buck Henry appeared in a lot of early SNL sketches, particularly the Samurai (fill in the blank) sketches with Belushi.
That's 1975?
Izat Buck Henry?
Mr French | 06.29.08 - 12:04 am | #
Buck Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Izat Buck Henry?
Mr French
No, Mike O'Donoghue, aka "Mr. Mike". He was the first head writer for the show.
Hussein is on the record saying that if push comes to shove he will side with his ideological muslim brothers or, if Islamism isn't involved, with his black brothers against "all typical" others. That's in his autobiography and in his own words.
Citation. Pages and quotations. This seems like swiftboating to me, though I admit I'm no rocket scientist.
DWD
We made the drive...it stormed...
Mrs. Blues going on a Steinbeck jag, as we book a vacation to Monterey next month.
"jack" is a reliable source of Bushite propaganda.
Sinfonian: SNL premiered in 1975.
Like I said! 
I recall the begging it took for my parents to agree to let me stay up until 1 a.m. on Saturday night. The only TV was in the living room, and their bedroom was very nearby.
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Suck it, Trebek.
The penis mightier!
Muslim or not, Hussein is on the record saying that if push comes to shove he will side with his ideological muslim brothers or, if Islamism isn't involved, with his black brothers against "all typical" others
If anyone's wondering (and I'm sure breath is bated cross the blogosphere) this steaming pile is from a viral email that's going around claiming to quote Obama's first book, complete with made up page numbers and all
Citation. Pages and quotations. This seems like swiftboating to me, though I admit I'm no rocket scientist.
It's been refuted on that website which refutes stuff. Name escapes me at this late hour.
I really may have to obtain one of those "Suck It, Trebek" T-shirts. 
I recall the begging it took for my parents to agree to let me stay up until 1 a.m. on Saturday night. The only TV was in the living room, and their bedroom was very nearby.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 06.29.08 - 12:06 am | #
I remember kids clamoring for white suits to wear to the 9th grade dance to emulate Steve Martin.
When the veterans came home they didn't want to talk about the war. So yeah, very few people here in the states knew the brutality of it since the battles weren't fought here.
Suck it, Trebek.
Sinfonian, exasperated
...would be a much better presentation with a Snorg Tee girl, I opine...
Suck it, Trebek.
Sinfonian, exasperated
Ok, cute boy, but where the snorgettes at?
Snopes.com?
reno 911 fans: mary birdsong strip poker game
http://www.marybirdsong.com/
Snopes.com?
That's it. Thanks.
It's been refuted on that website which refutes stuff. Name escapes me at this late hour.
Echidne
snopes.com
TOW: lots of drinking at VFW posts during the Fabulous Fifties. They didn't call it PTSD back then.
Ah, yes, that's right, Carlin was the very first host of SNL. Cool.
thank dog i left off the question mark, or i would owe ProfWombat something liquid
This early episode of SNL has an Ernie Kovacs vibe to it.
This early episode of SNL has an Ernie Kovacs vibe to it.
puppethead | Homepage | 06.29.08 - 12:10 am | #
That's when SNL was "kooky"
Salinas acknowledges Steinbeck now. I think you can still take tours of the house he lived in, and there's a very cool Steinbeck museum too.
...so Cindy McCain is actually 'jack' and is trying to throw us off her trail?
Nah.
jack is Allen Butler, who, when not playing the banality troll, has given us such popular characters as Elias, mimi, annie (aka annieangel), Bugs, General Zod, Shoelimpy, and a cast of thousands.
Humble he is not ...
I have a long record, mostly under other names, of provoking some of the
best conversations these threads have ever seen.
jack | 03.31.06 - 1:31 am | #
The $3 an article "writer" considers himself an intellectual.
kaymoutl8rh9rz
Omg, muppets!
Vicki,
Yeah, but the rain stopped. Lovely concert? Mrs. DWD seemed to have liked it. I stayed home with Youngest DWD and watched THE DEAD ZONE.
That movie still holds up pretty well. Karen Allen was good. Herbert Lom was good. Tom Skeritt was good. Anthony Zerbe was good. Martin Sheen was good. And Christopher Walken should have won an Oscar.
It's Saturday evening.
Do you know where your shirt is?
http://www.hotchickswithdoucheba...6090-
782255.jpg
Vicki,
Yeah, but the rain stopped. Lovely concert? Mrs. DWD seemed to have liked it. I stayed home with Youngest DWD and watched THE DEAD ZONE.
I thought it was about Jerry Garcia!
Gilly, if you were the one who originally linked up HCwDB on here, thanks.
It's become one of my favorite sites of all time. I've even begun commenting over there on occasion. It's hilarious.
The above jack is auggiesback who Simels has already said several times is copying the old jack.
Lovely concert?
We didn't get in. My sister was under the ill impression that we could see my friends for "free." However, we needed a pass (which is how I interpreted it all along). She got in; we didn't. I wasn't gonna pay tonight for the two of us to get in.
So, we went to The Sardine Room, and both Aud and I enjoyed it.
I think the thing I admire the most of the WW2 vets is their reticence... we can rise to occasions as well as they did, but we tend to want credit-- which ends up cheapening the whole effort.
Gilly, if you were the one who originally linked up HCwDB on here, thanks.
It's become one of my favorite sites of all time. I've even begun commenting over there on occasion. It's hilarious.
Sinfonian, exasperated | Homepage | 06.29.08 - 12:13 am | #
thx, but it wasn't me. Another atriot pointed it out. Can't recall who it was...
Buck Henry, still kickin' it.
Henry's dry humor attracted attention in the entertainment community. He became a cast member on TV programs such as The New Steve Allen Show (1961) and That Was The Week That Was He was a co-creator and writer for Get Smart (1965-70), with Mel Brooks. Two of his TV projects had short runs but are fondly remembered by fans: Captain Nice (1967) with William Daniels as a reluctant superhero, and Quark (197
, with Richard Benjamin in command of a garbage scow in outer space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Henry
Here I was thinking the amazing Captain Nice was a local thing. I bow before Buck's brilliance.
HCwDB
Can has more clue?
.
When the veterans came home they didn't want to talk about the war. So yeah, very few people here in the states knew the brutality of it since the battles weren't fought here.
TOW-killfile user
It made it damned convenient.
The draft should never have ended.
It's a hell of a "heartland" check on the Dick Cheneys of the world.
jack is Allen Butler, who, when not playing the banality troll, has given us such popular characters as Elias, mimi, annie (aka annieangel), Bugs, General Zod, Shoelimpy, and a cast of thousands.
.
.
.
The $3 an article "writer" considers himself an intellectual.
Richard
Huh.
Amazing what inspiration one can work with large quantities of meth.
'' I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.''
~ B Hussein Obama
Butler is always
HCwDB = http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com
It's brilliant. And great fun too.
http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/
Very strange. HCwDB. Funny, but strange.
still 94
not enough beer in the world to get me drunk right now.
ErinPDX | 06.28.08 - 11:46 pm | #
We made it into town, the motel was just fixing the a/c as we came in. I'm not even going to try to catch Rev. Heat, we're just heading for the coast tomorrow and going to SF Discovery Kingdom and SC Beach Boardwalk on Monday. 96 is just too frikkin' hot, man.
The draft gets Main Street skin in the game.
Very strange. HCwDB. Funny, but strange.
TOW-killfile user | 06.29.08 - 12:23 am | #
Strange in the sense of how such hot chicks can be attracted to such horrific chodes.
Missed it by that much!
Strange in the sense of how such hot chicks can be attracted to such horrific chodes.
Exactly. I don't look anything like the hot chicks and I'd never be seen with any of those guys. WTF?
OK. Mrs. Blues demands attention.
l8r
Welp, it's not getting any earlier here.
Catch you patriotz tomorrowz.
Exactly. I don't look anything like the hot chicks and I'd never be seen with any of those guys. WTF?
I would assume it has something to do with a high degree of vacua on behalf of both parties.
Night, all
Peace
Good night DB and Sinf. Sleep well.
Mr. French-that and the guys have trust funds.
Night, DWD.
Evening. Hot hot hot!
. Heat, we're just heading for the coast tomorrow and going to SF Discovery Kingdom and SC Beach Boardwalk on Monday. 96 is just too frikkin' hot, man.
doug r
you'll get beauty and relief from the heat. I love Santa Cruz. Enjoy!
You're a douchebag if your bodies in good shape?
Exactly. I don't look anything like the hot chicks and I'd never be seen with any of those guys. WTF?
Assortative mating. Ms. Lowselfesteem finds Mr. Dooshebagh utterly irresistible, but not in a good way.
Exactly. I don't look anything like the hot chicks and I'd never be seen with any of those guys. WTF?
I suspect this youtube link sums things up pretty well...
http://www.hotchickswithdoucheba...sdale-
bars.html
Occupation Plan for Iraq Faulted in Army History
when i worked for the army i found out that the official army position on vietnam was that "you can't prop up a corrupt government that doesn't have the support of the people"
but 50 million wingers and dittoheads still think we coulda won if we had only killed more people
maybe they're really all ferengi
.
i let the hot chicks cool off a little first otherwise they burn my mouth
.
Atom-smasher inspires fear
Scientists say a huge new device won't suck the Earth into a black hole.
http://www.yahoo.com/s/908578
Richard, yes it does. Pretty funny too.
By that criteria Billy Preston would be counted as douchebag.
"
Scientists say a huge new device won't suck the Earth into a black hole. "
It takes a Republican to do that.
a girl told me once that she wouldn't go out with me because she liked guys that gave her "the sense that they might hit me in the mouth at any moment", and i didn't seem like that type
that kind of thinking accounts for a lot
.
Monday and Tuesday nights in summer are $.75 rides and %.75 hot dogs at SCBB!
I love the roller coaster Medusa at Discovery Kingdom. Forecast highs in area are mid-70's...
SCBB ?
tac. i emailed you yesterday.
Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, where they actually filmed Lost Boys...
tac. i emailed you yesterday.
fokowi
ah, i just retrieved it. next weekend would be a good time to hang out for me...
.
Paul Krugman says the oil price isn't being driven by speculators.
"Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk"
Cool. That got me to thinking. They are expanding our river walk. Be nice if they included a board walk type section.
Scientists say a huge new device won't suck the Earth into a black hole
i heard that when they set off the first atomic explosion that oppenheimer wasn't completely sure that it wouldn't blow up the atmosphere
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tacitus voltaire, consider yourself lucky she didn't want to date you. I guarantee she would have been more trouble than she was worth.
Is it true that Obama will hold hands with that Arab guy who gave Osama bin Laden millions of dollars?
Oh, wait, that was George Bush...
"i heard that when they set off the first atomic explosion that oppenheimer wasn't completely sure that it wouldn't blow up the atmosphere"
Well, life sometimes requires risk. It was on that day the phrase "The whole enchilada!" was created I think.
i'm in mountain view and will be heading back to sd on tuesday. status: mission accomplished. so in the meantime i'm going to try to remain wasted on the rest of the way...
i'm in mountain view and will be heading back to sd on tuesday. status: mission accomplished. so in the meantime i'm going to try to remain wasted on the rest of the way...
fokowi
i'll tell you what: i work very near there and so maybe we can have dinner on monday night - i'll give you a call...
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i'm in mountain view and will be heading back to sd on tuesday. status: mission accomplished
You sold a website to teh Google?
35 Visitors, wow
I love Death Note. Delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete. Such a calm and ordered revolution.
nice job fokowi
EkCenTrik - where is this river walk? San Antonio?
SNL premiered in 1975.
Sinfonian, exasperated
The year of my birth
"
EkCenTrik - where is this river walk? San Antonio?"
Oops, yes.
I forget that there are others.
"a girl told me once that she wouldn't go out with me because she liked guys that gave her "the sense that they might hit me in the mouth at any moment", and i didn't seem like that type
that kind of thinking accounts for a lot"
Yeah there was some recent news that, basically, chicks dig sociopaths. Explains a lot.
enjoyed it when I was there ekcentrik
"The year of my birth
olexicon"
Are you old enough to be here at this time of night?
a girl told me once that she wouldn't go out with me because she liked guys that gave her "the sense that they might hit me in the mouth at any moment", and i didn't seem like that type
Did she give you "let's just be friends." bit, too?
Amazing how common that seems to be.
Are you old enough to be here at this time of night?
EkCenTriK
Well, obviously not
SNL premiered in 1975.
Sinfonian, exasperated
The year of my birth
olexicon
[feels suddenly old; fires up the milk warming pan; gets ready for bed]
things in regular conversation that you can only hear when in san francisco.
'well, of course... after all, the earth is hollow.'
Yeah there was some recent news that, basically, chicks dig sociopaths.
There is an unfortunate tendency to confuse sociopaths for alpha males.
I did get my Mexican meal. This is a Good Thing.
Richard, shit, I've gotten to know this up close and personal.
peace and humptiness forever
"i heard that when they set off the first atomic explosion that oppenheimer wasn't completely sure that it wouldn't blow up the atmosphere"
It was Edward Teller, and it was the hydrogen bomb he was worried would do that.
--Dark Sun, The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb, Richard Rhodes, p254
Allow me to make it clear. War Technology provided to humans is not to be used in human-on-human wars. Ever. Such a violation is causation.
but 50 million wingers and dittoheads still think we coulda won if we had only killed more people
Very few of these idiots, like their leaders, the deserting fratboy, crashcart, and von Rumsfailed, of course when they had the opportunity to kill themselves some gooks they politely declined to help out.
"There is an unfortunate tendency to confuse sociopaths for alpha males."
Jesus this is depressing
Sallyh! How the heck are ya?
Wow. Serious rain, fallin'. We sure needed it.
.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
.
all hail sallyh
Hey guys!
I'm doing well, thank you. Disgusted with Mlle's ex, but that's nothing new.
Actually, it was the Trinity Test, the first atomic blast.
To break the tension, Fermi began offering anyone listening a wager on "whether or not the bomb would ignite the atmosphere, and if so, whether it would merely destroy New Mexico or destroy the world." Oppenheimer himself had bet ten dollars against George Kistiakowsky's entire month's pay that the bomb would not work at all. Meanwhile, Edward Teller was making everyone nervous by applying liberal amounts of sunscreen in the pre-dawn darkness and offering to pass it around.
...hmmm....
Looks like I'm about to get start on answering ErinPDX's earlier question about how many fires the forecast thunderstorms will start...
Time to unplug the electronica...
"i say, old man, you seem to have blown up the atmosphere, what?"
"bad show! um, i suppose this means cricket won't be on this weekend"
.
"There is an unfortunate tendency to confuse sociopaths for alpha males." - Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
the needs of the greater herd internalized and whatnot... shitz fucked up homeboy
WTF was that shit?
Actually, it was the Trinity Test, the first atomic blast.
[snip]
puppethead
I stand by my post, although I can't at this moment find my copy of Oppenheimer's biography, or my copy of Richard Rhodes book on the Manhattan project.
Teller was indeed worried that a fusion reaction would set off a nitrogen-nitrogen reaction.
"There is an unfortunate tendency to confuse sociopaths for alpha males."
heh - heh - heh
"the needs of the greater herd internalized and whatnot... shitz fucked up homeboy"
Yeah.
I find the more "successful" I become the less I like it - on a lot of levels.
So did McCain default on his property taxes just to show how much he is in touch with the common man?
I stand by my post
Well, I quoted the DOE which I'd say is pretty damned authoritative.
Barry, what is this property taxes thing you speak of? Is it on your home page?
any accountants here who could answer an LLC tax question?
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Found my copy of "Oppenheimer, Shatter of Worlds" by Peter Goodchild.
Indeed, you guys are correct, Oppie had concerns about atmoshperic ignition.
But, they were based on calculations by Teller. (pgs 53,63,64)
Barry, what is this property taxes thing you speak of? Is it on your home page?
TOW-killfile user
Here... hee hee.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...x_n_109785.html
Barry, nevermind. I found it. It's amazing what's available with teh Googles.
But, they were based on calculations by Teller.
They were all giants of physics, I'm sure they all had similar views on the possibilities, probably discussing things over lunch.
Can you imagine being a 19 year old on an airborne assault team in Vietnam?
Your ship comes swooping in. The tall grass is swaying from the rotor wash.
You don't have the first notion where you are as you're being shoved out of the craft.
any accountants here who could answer an LLC tax question?
.
tacitus voltaire
When you get done with the CPA, I wanna talk to a lawyer about filing a FEC complaint raising money for political ads without filing for 527 status.
They were all giants of physics, I'm sure they all had similar views on the possibilities, probably discussing things over lunch.
puppethead
Yea, but I've always had a problem with Teller, and how he shoved Oppie down the rat hole after the war.
Been thinking about a few things related to the gas crisis.
Krugerman's article and then Duncan's post in cruising sort of out things together for me.
There has long been a call for change. Do with less, make changes etc. in our lifestyle. And while there are things that definitely can be improved upon or removed completely from our culture, I find myself asking why we are supposed to put so many things to rest.
What actually bothers me is if you want to do activity XYZ and you know that to achieve it is currently wasteful or subject to the loss of the resources required to support it, why did we not work for alternatives to permit XYZ to continue?
We have never tried. If we want to be a car culture, we should have been figuring alternative fuels or power systems long ago and acting upon that need nationally. In my thinking, this applies to many different things.
This is an alert. It's go time ladies and gentlemen.
Further material science will be provided.
Shortly after NEWSWEEK inquired about the matter, the McCain aide
e-mailed a receipt dated Friday, June 27, confirming payment by the
trust to San Diego County in the amount of $6,744.42. County officials
say the trust still owes an additional $1,742 for this year, an amount
that is overdue and will go into default July 1.Oopsie. Doncha just hate when that happens?
Let's face it, if he can't pay his bills as a MILLIONAIRE, he can't be put in charge of the country.
Damn, is that what the Trinity blast sounded like?
political word of the day: inertia
Fokowi, I thought inertia was a lifestyle
Le Jackel, oh, please, keep it coming. Not only is it fascinating, it's effective troll repellent
inertia
Isn't that one of those SAT test words that John Yoo is unfamiliar with?
SAT word ...
http://
tpmmuckraker.talkingpoint...used_by_sat.php
gonna go - can't get into it this evening.
bye
We have Iraq vets going on their third tours already.
That's horseshit.
You can't put people through that kind of strain. And that includes their families.
"You can't put people through that kind of strain. And that includes their families."
IOKIYAAR
Good night, bats. Sleep well and sweet dreams.
Yeah there was some recent news that, basically, chicks dig sociopaths. Explains a lot.
Not news. A piece of extremely crappy research which consisted of asking guys if they were like James Bond and then asking them how much they get laid. No external check on any of that.
We have Iraq vets going on their third tours already.
That's horseshit.
You can't put people through that kind of strain. And that includes their families.
This is one of the consequences of an occupation that is opposed, as opposed to an actual war.
The Army and the Marines are operating on the peacetime personnel paragdigm, with rotations and "business as usual" for the fleshpeddlers.
With WWII, it was "you're in for the duration." Then again, WWII had a beginning, a middle, and an end. From the getgo.
This illegal, immoral optional war of aggression had a beginning, a middle, but no end planned or even contemplated. As if it were by design.
If an enemy wanted to destroy our Army, he could barely do a better job of destroying it on the battlefield than the incompetent idiots who are the maladministration.
Osama bin Laden prays to Allah five times a day that Huggy Bush is sworn in as President on January 20th, 2009.
Only Huggy can possibly fill the gigantic shoes of Al Qaida's greatest recruiter.
Not news. A piece of extremely crappy research which consisted of asking guys if they were like James Bond and then asking them how much they get laid. No external check on any of that.
Echidne
I wonder how many guys would say they were "like" James Bond if it meant having to sit naked in a chair with the wicker bottom cut out, and having your "junk" smacked by some dude with a set of bolo balls?
Not too many, I'm guessing
i've got money i haven't spent yet, and this place has alcohol they haven't sold yet...
not a bad combination if you ask me...
peace
So did McCain default on his property taxes just to show how much he is in touch with the common man?
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09 | Homepage | 06.29.08 - 1:21 am | #
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I can just hear the political pundits in the MSM defend McCrazy the elitist by saying "when you own nine homes it's hard to keep track of which ones you have or haven't paid property taxes on.
Get. A. Grip.
Big McHugelarge!
I wonder how many guys would say they were "like" James Bond if it meant having to sit naked in a chair with the wicker bottom cut out, and having your "junk" smacked by some dude with a set of bolo balls?
now these 'bolo' balls, are they wicker as well or some less plant-based and/or say a more genital friendly material?
My brother recently gave a returning Iraq war veteran who was hitch hikinga a ride to the nearest town.
The veteran told my brother that he just got done serving his time in Iraq and was treated like shit when he wouldn't re-enlist.
He went on to tell my brother that he is done with this country, he is giving up his citizenship and is heading for Canada.
He also said America has no idea what is in store for this country if and when our troops all return home. He said many of the soldiers are f**ked up for the things they have done or witnessed in Iraq.
We will have a lot of angry and messed up soldiers returning, some of them being gang bangers who enlisted so that when they return home they can be "killing machines" for their gangs.
George W. Bush will bestow a needlessly bloody legacy for this Nation to deal with.
Are you happy now, Pat Peale?
now these 'bolo' balls, are they wicker as well or some less plant-based and/or say a more genital friendly material?
focus, martinied up
If you remember the scene from the latest "Casino Royale", it was actually a weighted heaving line.
It was not genital friendly.
This illegal, immoral optional war of aggression had a beginning, a middle, but no end planned or even contemplated. As if it were by design.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 06.29.08 - 1:57 am | #
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"As if it were by design"...
It really makes me wonder if this colossal clusterf**k was indeed by design. I mean we supposedly have the greatest military in the world and it's been nothing but one f**k up after another from day one by those in charge and sadly it is our brave soldiers and innocent Iraqi citizens who pay the ultimate price.
Californies smoke fulled sky:
http://spaceweather.com/
submissi..._1214687532.jpg
If you remember the scene from the latest "Casino Royale", it was actually a weighted heaving line. -Barry from Alaska 01-20-09
... never mind
"No taxes", "Bomb everyone", "Kill immigrants"
Fuck, the Japanese have fucking perfected robots that can fucking elucidate that shit.
All I can say is just rememeber what happened to the old Soviet Union after their ten year war with Afghanistan....It collapsed.
We are facing the same people who fought to remove the Soviet presence in Afghanistan. Funny how no politicians or political pundits ever mention the similarities.
... never mind
focus, martinied up
Hee, I first saw the movie on a plane, and at that scene, you could look up and see a lot of guys squirm in their seats.
Probably like that in theaters too.
"No taxes", "Bomb everyone", "Kill immigrants"
Ya left out "Build Walls".
It was just a golf course, and we all gave that up, right?
EkCenTriK | 06.29.08 - 1:31 am | #
Excellent questions.
When you were in school, did you complete the paper that you were assigned the week before it was due?
In America we don't really respond to crisis until we are hammered in the head. And, because in the past we were tricked, we want to believe the same thing is happening again.
(70s oil embargo = speculators)
I had a friend who back in the 80s worked for a think tank whose job it was to look at oil prices and predictions for prices and correlate them to see who was the best at guessing. It was very fascinating research. He actually got to the point where he could show just how wrong the people guessing the prices were going to be and WHY they weren't getting any better.
They didn't WANT to really get better.
The "market" for their guesses were served better by them being way off all the time.
If Echidne was here she would explain some of the tricks they used. But, having been involved with research for a while I understood that the goal of the research sometimes was really to serve the client rather than to serve the truth.
I think it all came down to when we were watching Cowboys and Indians on teh TV set as kids.
Some of us thought it was fascinating drama.
And others of us, thought it was real.
The early days of SNL were some of the best shows around at the time. Madeline Kahn doing Dietrich (SP?) being interviewed by Gilda Radner's Baba Wawa being a great example. Also the "Jane, you ignorant slut!" shot, which younger people don't know as a take-off on Point-Counterpoint from 60 Minutes (which is why it was soooo funny). Emily Latella's "never mind" comments...
In America we don't really respond to crisis until we are hammered in the head. And, because in the past we were tricked, we want to believe the same thing is happening again.
(70s oil embargo = speculators)
I think it's different this time.
I mean, Mercedes Benz said it will stop making petroleum powered cars in 7 years. That is serious stuff.
Has the financial cost of the Iraq war exceeded the Vietnam war?
Has any of the "economic geniuses" on TV ever mentioned that part of why the US economy is shitty, might be because we have a $20 billion dollar a month Army in a major oil producing country?
Has the financial cost of the Iraq war exceeded the Vietnam war?
bow
That's a morning question for Atrios, cause changing Dollar value makes it a calculus problem to me.
I think it all came down to when we were watching Cowboys and Indians on teh TV set as kids.
Some of us thought it was fascinating drama.
And others of us, thought it was real.
And some of us thought the drama was the real, not the nobility of the cavalry or of the "red man" in the movies.
It always pleased me that Tonto, under the sidekick greasepaint and the shuck-n-jive pseudo-language, often acted as a partner to the Lone Ranger.
And I loved Blazing Saddles for destroying the old style of Western.
Has any of the "economic geniuses" on TV ever mentioned that part of why the US economy is shitty, might be because we have a $20 billion dollar a month Army in a major oil producing country?
Naw, the TV money pundits just wonder what will happen to the Dollar with a Muslim president.
Not saying Obama is a Muslim, they just wonder.
And I loved Blazing Saddles for destroying the old style of Western.
atablarasa
Mongo not understand.
The Vietnam war supposedly cost 130 billion dollars total.
130 billion in 1970 is about 725 billion today?
Blazing Saddles... why not F-Troop.
Corrupt Sergeant and Corporal, robbing the Govt to make deals, yea, so honorable {snark}
130 billion in 1970 is about 725 billion today?
bow | 06.29.08 - 2:42 am | #
reasonable assumption. gas was 30 cesnts a gallon.
But the war doesn't show up on the budget! (It's separate!)
We didn't need that money anyway, we would probably just spend it on blink.
I mean, Mercedes Benz said it will stop making petroleum powered cars in 7 years. That is serious stuff.
Not quite, just gasoline powered cars. Diesels are their forte.
That's a major headline. Vietnam and Iraq was money down the shithole.
ww2 could be characterized as a decent investment, but not those wars.
But the war doesn't show up on the budget! (It's separate!)
True enough, we'll never know the cost of this war.
We know what the Manhattan Project cost, it was eventually revealed. But there is so much about this one that will be secret forever.
Hell, I'll be we have paid Blackwater the same number of dollars as Manhattan cost.
Naw, that couldn't be possible, could it?
I can still sing the lyrics to F-Troop, I think.
"The end of the Civil War was near, when quite accidentally
something something....
and turned retreat in to victory!
Where indian fights are colorful sights and nobody takes a lickin' -
paleface and redskin both turn chicken!"
Anyway, I don't think F-Troop really covered to whole gamut, nor did it have Frankie Lane singing the title song.
Not quite, just gasoline powered cars. Diesels are their forte.
Ralphie
I'm reading all petroleum powered cars.
Now the trucks etc will still be diesel I suspect.
http://gristmill.grist.org/story.../27/17324/2938/
130 billion in 1970
Might have got you a Javelin, after taxes.
Oh wait, 130 billion in 1970 was three human Moon strolls.
I forgot.
Might have got you a Javelin, after taxes.
MP
Or my buddy Dennis' AMX
Hee hee, he was a Forward Fire Spotter in 'Nam, and now at the NSA.
We at least know the iraq war has currently costs as much as the vietnam war(700 billion) and its projected total cost as high as 3 trillion.
The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...8030702846.html
Oh wait, 130 billion in 1970 was three human Moon strolls.
I forgot.
MP
I think they were less, and the cost per flight was going down?
Ariana Huffington writes:
"...Novak documents something even more significant: the overpowering sense of revulsion with Bush and today's Republican Party felt by many conservatives. The money quote is delivered by a long-time GOP loyalist: 'The Republican Party is a dead rotting carcass with a few decrepit old leaders stumbling around like zombies in a horror version of Weekend With Bernie [sic], handcuffed to a corpse.' I didn't think it could be done, but that tops Republican Rep. Tom Davis' classic 'If we were dog food, they would take us off the shelf.'"
Cool, eh?
Besides, F-Troop was a comedy more in the style of Hogan's Heros, McHale's Navy, or even The Wackiest Ship in the Army. Blazing Saddles was out to lampoon every cliche in the Old West.
Authentic Frontier Gibberish, the cows, the posse at the toll gate, and most of all, the spilling over into the movie sets.
I think they were less, and the cost per flight was going down?
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09
The Saturn Five was something for humankind to behold, wasn't it?
The Saturn Five was something for humankind to behold
Even now, it still is. You can see one at Kennedy and one in Houston, unless they've done something with them since I was there. But better to see them in flight, I think.
'The Republican Party is a dead rotting carcass with a few decrepit old leaders stumbling around like zombies in a horror version of Weekend With Bernie [sic], handcuffed to a corpse.'
I love this quote. I'm going to save it to a file and post it everywhere.
re-HICA!
Just watched Jumper. Eeeeee... yeah.
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The Saturn Five was something for humankind to behold, wasn't it?
MP
Well, it is an amazing machine. And to add to atablarasa's post, there is a full size replica at Huntsvile, as well as a genuine article.
I'm not gonna get into the argument of the time, the money should have been spent on domestic problems. July 1969 was an awesome time, everyone was drilled on those 3 guys, and especially on the two on the moon.
Awesome machinery, after all this time I still cannot wrap my head around the fuel burn in the first few minutes, how can a pump deliver that much?
I still cannot wrap my head around the fuel burn in the first few minutes, how can a pump deliver that much?
That and the gimballing. Once the towers retracted. how did that Washington Monument sized thing keep from going sideways?
4 stages in a man's life
http://dummies-guide-to-everythi...-mans-
life.html
Here's a flick of Apollo 11's epic launch
Barry! How in hail are ya?
sitten asked today if I'd seen ya, online.
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Iraq is not only the second longest war in U.S. history (after Vietnam), it is also the second most costly -- surpassed only by World War II.
That and the gimballing. Once the towers retracted. how did that Washington Monument sized thing keep from going sideways?
MP
Hee, I get the gimbal mechanism, I've seen it.
Here's a tidbit most people don't know: Buried in the farings of the 4 outboard engines on the first stage were retrorockets.
When staging occured, the lower section just didn't drop away, it was pulled back via those retros.
NASA doesn't talk about them hardly at all, but if you hit the museum at Huntsville you can find out.
The Mustache of Understanding now suggests that Iraq and terrorism are not our number 1 problems, but the economy.
That he does not link the two simply proves how profound an understanding is to be found within the head that bears the Mustache.
Off from Cambridge, MA to Hyde Park, Chicago, at 5:44 if United has its act together, Fat Chance Department.
This occasions an unusual 3 AM post from me.
Later, I trust.
The Saturn was the first US rocket designed solely from the ground up for manned spaceflight.
Before that, they stuck astronauts on the tip end of military ballistic missiles.
Off from Cambridge, MA to Hyde Park, Chicago, at 5:44 if United has its act together, Fat Chance Department.
United Eh?
See if you can get away with a comment like this flight attendant did.
http://www.airliners.net/aviatio...d.main/4038467/
Before that, they stuck astronauts on the tip end of military ballistic missiles.
MP
True, but the Titan-2 had such a bad record that NASA basically rebuilt it for use.
There used to be 16 Titan silos around Wichita, as well as a refueling wing at McConnell AFB. I always figured if the nukes came it would be a high value target. And, given the Titan's performance record, the odds were fair that one or more of them would blow up if they all launched.
Saturn F-1 engine burns:
15,471 gallons (58,564 litres) of RP-1 per minute
24,811 gal (93,920 l) of liquid oxygen per minute
RP-1 is essentially kerosene, aka Jet Fuel.
Just the RP-1 rate would empty a 747 in 3 minutes.
Hey Barry,
Do you remember that Gemini false launch with Schirra and Stafford?
They counted down and lit teh candle and nothing happened?
Schirra was supposed to pull the plug and launch the escape rocket.
But he decided to wait it out.
Do you remember that Gemini false launch with Schirra and Stafford?
They counted down and lit teh candle and nothing happened?
Schirra was supposed to pull the plug and launch the escape rocket.
But he decided to wait it out.
MP
Yes, I remember that, and was just conviently reminded of it by the Discovery Channel series "When we left the Earth".
I don't think Wally wanted to eject out sidewise
Ahhh, years ago I had a young lad as a copilot at a commuter airline I used to work for. His name was Andy Conrad.
His dad, Pete, walked on the moon.
It was a weird deal all around.
Great kid though, he is probably a Captain at Delta, United, American or some other big time airline now.
Barry? Howdy?
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Hiya JP.
Belated Happy Birthday to ya buddy.
Barry from Alaska -- Thanks, man. How ya been? How's Zoey?
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Oh, JP, I'm leaching your .jpg for Shaggy for my ad off of your site.
I'll fix that right now.
Barry from Alaska: Oh, JP, I'm leaching your .jpg for Shaggy for my ad off of your site.
I'll fix that right now.
Eh? I no speak-a de Anglais!
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Thanks, man. How ya been? How's Zoey?
She is just fine, little beggar.
All cats is different, but she has found a toy that makes her go crazy, no catnip in it.
I'm gonna send some to you, 4LG, SP, et all cat folks for comparison.
Eh? I no speak-a de Anglais!
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Jeffraham Prestonian,
Errr... I'm hotlinked to a jpg on your site, an image I should be hosting on my site instead?
Barry from Alaska: All cats is different, but she has found a toy that makes her go crazy, no catnip in it.
I'm gonna send some to you, 4LG, SP, et all cat folks for comparison.
My guys are 50/50 on catnip. Sometimes they like; other times, eh!
Now, pull a string across the floor...
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Now, pull a string across the floor...
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Yea, ya never know do ya?
Barry from Alaska: Errr... I'm hotlinked to a jpg on your site, an image I should be hosting on my site instead?
No, you're fine. I don't pay for bandwidth there, and even if I did, it wouldn't hurt none.
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Now the bandwidth pain is gonna come from scootrak.com, I fear.
Not to mention, Boost Mobile may close the loophole they seem not to know exists in their iDEN network...
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No, you're fine. I don't pay for bandwidth there, and even if I did, it wouldn't hurt none.
Ok then, well I'll just wait for the surprise when it updated then.. eh?
Barry from Alaska: Ok then, well I'll just wait for the surprise when it updated then.. eh?
Surprise?
I must've had too many beers (I'm on #3!).
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I'm finally getting to see the SNL Calin program.
I can't believe how much of this I remember.
Surprise?
I must've had too many beers (I'm on #3!).
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Jeffraham Prestonian
One of the hazards of hot linking is the jpg gets changed, and now says something completly different.
Wow, the Might Poobah, 2 chickens, 3 swans, and a duck.
Barry from Alaska: I can't believe how much of this I remember.
You'll get to see my cousin, Billy, too.
Dunno that I saw this, originally... probably saw it on a repeat, either back then, or more recently.
I'm pretty sure I didn't get to stay up that late until the summer of that year, when I turned 12.
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Barry from Alaska: One of the hazards of hot linking is the jpg gets changed, and now says something completly different.
Oh. Well, sure!
But that wouldn't happen in this case.
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(I'm on #3!).
Finishing #6
Next?
Barry from Alaska: Next?
Doubt I'll catch up, but if I stay up for breakfast, perhaps!
I started at midnight, CDT.
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You'll get to see my cousin, Billy, too.,
He was already on.
He tanned well, didn't he?
seems to me that y'all are playing catch up. i've lost count...
Barry from Alaska: He tanned well, didn't he?
Better than John Kerry or Barack!
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seems to me that y'all are playing catch up. i've lost count...
fokowi
TV in Alaska is always catch up.
15 years ago, they were still flying up films/videotapes of network programs, played 3 weeks after NYC, center of the universe, saw em.
I wonder if I had a good attorney, and offered this mobile phone company my little secret, if I could get them to agree to let my company get a hella-reduced rate on the service that they're unwittingly giving away to ALL COMERS...?
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JP, ... Billy Preston will always be the 5th Beatle to me.
As far as Kerry and Barak... I don't know what to do with that.
But I'm all over Ed Hale and his supposed 527, and if he doesn't have papers with the IRS by Wed I'm filing FEC charges against him.
You got any Villanova lawyers who work probono or low cost
Hee, I just thing the investigation will shut Ed Hale down.
Just heard tires squealing on wet pavement, just outside. Had to check to see if both scooters were still there. They were.
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As far as Kerry and Barak... I don't know what to do with that.
Grover Norquist said Obama was just "John Kerry w/a tan," this week.
But I'm all over Ed Hale and his supposed 527, and if he doesn't have papers with the IRS by Wed I'm filing FEC charges against him.
The FEC is effectively defunct right now, y'know.
You got any Villanova lawyers who work probono or low cost
Vandy, y'mean?
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hello, all.
Dear Sarah Deere!
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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hey Jeff!
Okay. Let's get serious.
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Villanove, Vandy, yea, I'll take any probono hee hee.
I don't know what to do with the info I've go on Ed, he is illegal as hell, but probably gonna go away.
But... Faux noise keeps giving his ilk time, and I need to expose em somehow.
He thinks he has his bases covered cause he has filed as a "non profit" in Texas. The filing is limited.
I need a pissed off attorney to make sure I do it all right.
well THAT was strangely hilarious (Taco John)
Walking on the Moon is the most out rageous human endeavor that has yet occurred in my lifetime.
Thing is, the billions of work hours required to get those astronauts there and back, was largely driven because we hated Russia.
Sarah Deere: well THAT was strangely hilarious (Taco John)
And there was a SCOOTER in there! For all of about 0.2 seconds, anyway!
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Okay. Let's get serious.
Needs Babe the Pig herding sheep.
i'll stop the world and melt with you...
Barry from Alaska: Villanove, Vandy, yea, I'll take any probono hee hee.
If I were accused of a felony of some kind, rather than trying to become a startup Internet/telecomm services tycoon, I'd probably git me some pro bono. I doubt anyone would take this "on spec" without a big ol' chunk of any future proceeds.
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(and I suspect this idea is the one that would make me some serious FTW dollars)
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Are there still Taco John's out there? There was one in my hometown, but I don't recall ever seeing one, elsewhere.
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Thing is, the billions of work hours required to get those astronauts there and back, was largely driven because we hated Russia.
MP
So...
Current day equivalent would be to show the Muslims that a regular GI could ride a super duper horse at night, and go farther?
If I were accused of a felony of some kind, rather than trying to become a startup Internet/telecomm services tycoon, I'd probably git me some pro bono. I doubt anyone would take this "on spec" without a big ol' chunk of any future proceeds.
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I just want a 'truth out there' guy, willing to stop people lying is all.
Barry from Alaska: Current day equivalent would be to show the Muslims that a regular GI could ride a super duper horse at night, and go farther?
Or show that he can get 210 virgins with a Visa card, and doesn't have to die...?
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Carlin... It's Sunday, God's day off.
So why do we bother him with with ridiculous prayers on his day off?
I love my FSM, any day of the week.
Barry from Alaska: I just want a 'truth out there' guy, willing to stop people lying is all.
Oh; sorry. Was self-absorbing on my predicament.
The actual truth is so hideous, none dare actually gaze upon it, I fear.
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Walking on the Moon is the most out rageous human endeavor that has yet occurred in my lifetime.
MP | 06.29.08 - 4:10 am | #
i have an item in my possession that was in the pocket of the spacesuit of the dude that took the lunar joyride on apollo 14.
shit like that can alter a persons consciousness...
Everything God ever made...
Died
Not a good track record.
Just think what we could do if we chanelled our collective energies *not* in a bellicose manner?
fokowi: shit like that can alter a persons consciousness...
I for one am disappointed you have not invented the warp drive, as of this date.
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i have an item in my possession that was in the pocket of the spacesuit of the dude that took the lunar joyride on apollo 14.
shit like that can alter a persons consciousness...
fokowi
Errr... help me understand.
No joyrides on Apollo 14, just tag along cart.
Most memorable moment (sadly) was Alan Shephards golf shot.
AP-14 landed in the intended spot of the aborted -13.
No buggy till -15.
What is the trinket?
fokowi...oh, my. he's just gorgeous, isn't he?
SD -- You talkin' about Hugh? I love that show. I aspire to be the smartass that character happens to be.
And how any Brit can do that accent so perfectly... amazes me, no end.
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I've come to the conclusion that Poppy and Chimpy like the notion of war for some reason.
It's the Lord's gracious blessing that we have had to deal with that Addams family running the country for fucking 12 years out of my lifetime.
i meant 15...
i meant 15...
fokowi
That was the one that Irwin did the ESP experiment on, without NASA knowledge. Hee hee
farking rags
trinket - a post card sized nylon fabric state flag of sd.
i'll put it up on my twice used blogspot sometime soon...
Jeff...oh, yeah. Hugh has long been an object of my interest and admiration. Besides that, he's just drop dead gorgeous. It's the intelligence. He's so accomplished. And funny as hell.
trinket - a post card sized nylon fabric state flag of sd.
fokowi
That's damn cool.
Really.
fokowi: trinket - a post card sized nylon fabric state flag of sd.
That's very cool.
My two historical trinkets aren't nearly that cool.
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i'll put it up on my twice used blogspot sometime soon...
fokowi
Are you selling it? Documentation?
I loved Blazing Saddles for destroying the old style of Western.
As I said to a friend a couple of weeks back, Blazing Saddles will be the best cultural template for the 2008 election.
I second Barry and Jeff, fokowi. definitely way cool trinket.
the diplay that it resides in is borderline genius.
What does it take for the marmalade- brained "hard workers" to get it?!
For Chimpy to actually say "I hate you! I took all of your money! Your grandmother will not get that operation because I said so!"
fokowi: the diplay that it resides in is borderline genius.
Near-vacuum w/added nitrogen, thick acrylic thingie?
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Don't make me break out this 2nd DVD...
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I think they would still vote for him.
jp. no nitrogren, but mr. irwin knew what he was doing when he created it...
Here's a question I've had since July 21, 1969..
Who was the first person to touch a part of the moon?
Neil was first to step off and walk, most of us know that.
But when they got back into the LEM, and unsuited, who was the first to touch the dust on the suits?
Something that buggs me 40 years or so later.
fokowi: jp. no nitrogren, but mr. irwin knew what he was doing when he created it...
The one I bought on eBay...
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The one I bought on eBay...
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 06.29.08 - 4:41 am | #
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Who was the first person to touch a part of the moon?
fokowi -- A joke. "The one I bought on eBay had the nitrogen!"
Okay. Not so funny.
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Flown Hardware or Items are a big thing.
Most of it is still USGOV property, but some dude here or there snags it, and.. you know.
But for Moon artifacts, that is different, after Grissom's Mercury it all got documented.
Crap, mis-typed.
Who was the first person to touch a part of the moon?
I thought it was cool that Conrad's crew landed within walking distance of the unmanned '66 lander.
Plus, that ship took a direct lightning strike right after liftoff.
Knocked their instruments out. Almost an abort situation.
the backstory is that a relative of mine was gov of sd in the 70's. it was presented to him by irwin during a bicentennial celebration/ceremony in 1976.
for some reason its journey goes thru me...
I thought it was cool that Conrad's crew landed within walking distance of the unmanned '66 lander.
They got yelled at big time aftewward.
Cause they pointed the TV camera at the sun, and burnt it out, so no live TV.
Hee hee, what a job they had: pilot, PR, director, actor, pseudo scientists,
Poets, .. they was slammed.
I say they had to be poets cause...
NASA wouldn't let them say "holy crap, this place sux."
They had to all come up with "Barren beauty" or "Awesome Magnignificance" to support the cause.
Not one of them was allowed to day, "holy crap, this place sucks, no trees or rivers, no lakes or water.. Go home Gi>"
When I talked to Neil Armstong, he said the most intrusive thing was the Nixon call, but he had to take it.
It was scripted, like the tinfoils belive, but not to the extent that they believe.
He was pissed that Nixon would actually try to chime in on Kennedy's program.
there are few folks that know the true value of what occurred during the apollo project. contrast that against the manhattan project.
gungulla...
Here's Alan Bean fucking with Surveyor III, launched years earlier. The LEM is in the background.
This picture fucking blows my mind.
This picture fucking blows my mind.
MP
Why? Cause they could land so close?
Why? Cause they could land so close?
Cause he's fiddling with a gadget ON THE FUCKING MOON!
we went to the fucking moon and safely returned in the 60's with technology from the 40's and 50's.
one of my favorite lines is from the movie 'flashback'. dennis hoppers character: 'when we get the the thru the 80's, the 90's are gonna make the 60's look like the 50's...'
i have no idea why i''m saying these things tonight.
look what they did back then. fuck/ we have trouble putting people into low earth orbit without fucking things up nowadays...
Cause he's fiddling with a gadget ON THE FUCKING MOON!
MP
Well yea, that is kidaa incredible.
Have you seen the camera he took off?
Amazing to me in the fact to launch pinpoint landing to a specific spot.
Neil overflew his by a couple of thousand yards, cause the "runway was bad".
Still, landing where any of em did was and still is awesome.
Well yea, that is kidaa incredible.
Astronaut Bean does look likes he's messing aroung with one of those Buster Keaton 1920's boxing glove on the end of an extendo thing.
this one doesn't help stop the mindblowing either...
this one doesn't help stop the mindblowing either...
fokowi
How did we do that? We had the Vietnam War, and racial crises, and Hippies, and Russia, and China, and even Timothy Leary to deal with simultaneously.
mp
something obviously died one day...
Is anyone awake here?
Is anyone awake here?
Doug | 06.29.08 - 5:28 am |
define awake.
One cool thing. Of the twelve American men who have walked upon the Lunar surface, how many have you seen selling something?
Fuck, Neil Armstrong could have purchased Fort Know from the endorsements alone.
Fort Knox.
Fort Knox.
MP | 06.29.08 - 5:33 am | #
fort know, fort knox. what's the difference?
btw. coolest. typo. ever...
"You might not know me, but I'm Neil Armstrong. I was the first human to set foot on the Moon. That's why I'd like to take a few minutes to talk about Cialis..."
Bush impeachment debate focuses on subpoenas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...h?
v=JKkfO0Ai5rE
someday. in our lifetime. knowledge will again become power.
stupid has been running things for far too long...
BTW, I may be on a canine death watch. One of my dogs seems to be failing. She's a Labrador, who has the hip problem. It's literally killing her. She can barely move and though she's been given strong pain pills is still in horrible pain. She's done nothing but lay under foot all day. Her vet is aware of this situation and her previous occurrences of it. If she makes it through the night I may be taking her to the vet's office sometime tomorrow.
Aw Doug, sorry.
I complain about my cat and what a needy creature he is all the time and just know I'll be devastated when he leaves.
Morning peeps.
Here's a young Neil Armstrong in one of those early NASA aluminum foil spacesuits.
He doesn't look happy about it.
morning, all.
So sorry, Doug. Be well.
Here there's is low rumbling, and the weather channel shows a fat red bunch of stuff approaching, but for now it's still stuffy. All the worst went by us yesterday.
part of the narrative they left on the cutting room floor...
neil armstrong: 'you want me to do what?'
Doug--
that's the hardest of all. It's impossible to know what the dog would want. It's the responsibility we take on when we bring a dog, no matter what age, into our families, and it's the hardest part of it.
There's no advice to give in this circumstance, other than trust your judgment.
This is Kody doing her panther imitation.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/wBhgIgnM.jpg
ql--
someone once said to me that in your life you will, if you like dogs, spend time with many dogs, and spend a lot of time with a few. But you'll find, in that same life, that there was One Dog.
This turns out to be true, IME. My One Dog is here, nearest the AC, which is on for her because her heart problems are worsened by the summer heat.
Sorry to hear about your dog, Doug.
Morning, Moonbats!
Doug,
So sorry. No matter how "prepared" we are, that always hurts a lot. Sending good vibes her way.
Dum dee dum dee dum
Hmmm...mmmm...mmmm....*sigh*
It's 5am, and the bags are packed. I'm scrubbed and shaved. I need only dress and call a cab--then it's off to the airport.
This is the part I dislike most about traveling:
Hurry up and get ready to wait.
[In the meantime...add my wishes to the others for the best for Kody, Doug.]
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/...3D480/ry%3D320/
Gracie on top of some local mountain.
The Mercury Seven were cool. They boke the ice.
But the next cohort, called the "Next Nine", here's what came out of those losers:
- First venture outside the spacecraft. (Ed White)
- First to change orbit trajectory from the capsule (Lovell, Young)
- First space docking mission. (Armstrong, Young)
- First to orbit the Moon. (Bormann, Lovell)
- First use of Lander Module in space (McDivitt).
- First to orbit the Moon on two separate missions. (Lovell)
- Only astronaut to commanded Gemini, Apollo, and Shuttle missions.(Young)
- First to step onto the Lunar surface (Armstrong).
where ya going, smokes? i'm in mountain view, ca.
Looks like Central Park to me.
Except for one very brief period I've never lived without a cat. We're gonna give it a try when the Prince departs. Bet it doesn't last a year.
lived without a cat. We're gonna give it a try when the Prince departs. Bet it doesn't last a year.
I don't know what I'll do when Miss Thing goes. I can't imagine replacing her, but I can't imagine living without a cat.
where ya going, smokes? i'm in mountain view, ca.
fokowi
Off to see my brother in Rockwall, TX--an exurb of Dallas.
I don't know how long we'll wait before another dog. It's gonna be rough. Heck, it already is rough.
The photo is from somewhere upstate, after we've reached the top of what passes for a mountain around here. Although she was a climber--scrambled over rocks and scree to get to the top of some White Mountain peaks. Now it's a big deal if she decides to walk around the block.
Funny, to travel a lot you really pro'ly shouldn't have pets. Luckily, I have good neighbors, am using them lots to get away right now. But there is always a cat or eight looking for a home, in my experience.
a close up view of Kody's nose.
(how you might be woken up sometimes, with a cold nose in the face)
http://thumbsnap.com/v/DpeySqdW.jpg
Unca Smokes, give me a call if you're in the area, Rockwall is not far from here. I'll email my number.
have a good flight. denver connection?
Some nose!!
have a good flight. denver connection?
fokowi
Minneapolis--I heard from an unimpeachable source that the bathrooms are fantastic.
Cruising around, it really is a slow day.
I'm wondering if having a forum to vent about things like the FISA fuck up is actually counter productive in the long run. We rant and rave for a few days and then move on. Nothing seems sustained.
Unca Smokes, give me a call if you're in the area, Rockwall is not far from here. I'll email my number.
Ruth
Ah...had I known that, I would've given you the latest CD in person. As it is, it should be arriving in the mail soon.
Not sure what the plans are, but I know one of the days I'm there that I'll be all by myself while they have to work.
14 Visitors Online
If they each somehow got a million dollars to Atrios, then Atrios would be getting rich from this website.
ql--
I think it's really valuable to know that you aren't a psycho--that other people are throwing things at the teevee.
If nothing else. Also, you know, I don't think it would have been held up this long, and done this much in the dark, without the pressure we've put on.
And, as Markos and others have said, this is not a short-term project we're working on.
Nothing seems sustained.
qlª | Homepage | 06.29.08 - 6:28 am | #
and actually the beauty of it all...
We rant and rave for a few days and then move on. Nothing seems sustained.
Well the outrages keep coming so fast and so furiously. I don't know how we're going to make it another six months.
I'm hoping, Hecate, that we'll see that focusing on the presidential race is a waste of time, and we'll look downticket to have more influence.
"the FISA fuck up"
This is one more way you know many marketing people are not the brightest burnt out lightbulbs in the trash.
http://www.consumer.att.com/onli.../onlinebilling/
Morning, folks. Sorry about the suffering lab, Doug.
Hecate, it's lots of material for blogging, that's the only redeeming quality of the worst administration ever. and I'd really choose to do without the abundance of material, given a choice.
UncaSmokes, just emailed you the number, we'll say hi anyway, but if you have some free time, great.
I'd really choose to do without the abundance of material, given a choice.
Absolutely. I'd be glad for the day when we all have more pictures of our pets and poetry posts.
how come we can't win when there is 300,000,000 of us and 550 of them?
i've got a few ideas...
Doug, that'[s amazing. It's as if we've all just been making a funny joke about constitutional rights.
the FISA fuck up
Congressional representatives being less in touch with their constituents?
Good grief, was that stark.
Are you fucking telling me, with all of the hurting people out there, the fucking US telcos need their diapers changed for them?!
Tweety going on about Bill Clinton is yesterday's laundry. Most
working people hard for obama to connect to, Katy
the electoral map is truly something to behold. there's more there than meets the eye.
The system evolves to absorb previous dissent. There's a place for everybody in a hegemonic culture. The internet is a tremendous safety valve, but I'm not sure the powers-that-be fully understand its usefulness in maintaining order.
Sure there's pain from instant fact-checking of official statements; incredible fundraising and organizing by those normally marginalized from power; and, most importantly, a shared experience that replaces the politically useful isolation created by four decades of consumerism.
However, I think that if the web hadn't been around curing the last eight years, it might've come down to pitchforks and torches.
fokowi-Yes indeed. There really is the potential for a record landslide. Forget all the angst from the left. The vast majority of people want change and Obama represents, if nothing else, change.
Those goddamned powerful telcos were in on it from moment one, and now they're playing all sweet Penelope, tied to the railroad tracks.
They're as shitty as Big Oil.
What Uncle Smokes said. Instead, we're back to incrementalism. Baby steps when drastic change is called for.
Bobo wants Joe Biden for Veep, so he can tell Obama he's wrong.
tweety wants some one middle class.
is that like a weird form of pain management?
Katy doubts biden really works as everyman.
and social conservative changes like Hagel
bobo salivates for Hagel
tweety; parties really do matter.
panel all like Obama saying Veep choice isn't about location, it's abut governing.
What Uncle Smokes said. Instead, we're back to incrementalism. Baby steps when drastic change is called for.
qlª
Whenever you hear the word "reform," that is the system getting minor adjustments to keep itself going. Not a radical correction as with the New Deal.
This is shaping up to be a reform election, and I (mostly) have no problem with that.
In the present circumstances, I see far too many little Napoleons who would love nothing more than martial law. Plenty of seeds have been sown in that direction, and perhaps some baby steps back from the precipice are called for.
Then again, I'm middled-aged and (presently) nicely employed. Being well-fed is a surefire way to staunch radicalism.
Concluding that O needs some one with the things he doesn't have (all of it experience mantra) - the middle class ignored by GoPervs, says Bobo
food is a trivial subject to a man with a full belly...
Commodity trading in essential foodstuffs has got to be stopped, India has imposed a halt on it.
Gaseous sheets.
Gaseous owls
Who was that pointless band in the video?
Were they supposed to be good?
It's so sad what "rock and roll" has come to. Pointless, meaningless, wankerism for pointless, meaningless "artists".
Watching the House Judiciary Subcommittee's 'Detainee Interogation' hearing on C-SPAN.
Yoo plays the Sargent Shultz defense and Addington is an arrogant asshole!
These people need some of their own medicine... WATERBOARD 'EM BOTH!
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