I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Cripes!
the bastard will rot in hell (if hell exists,of course. If not...tar and feathers!)
Evil walrus.
Bonjour Snow, my sweet pussycat 
Curly, again.
[shakes fist]
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Friedman is very serious and shit like that.
Well, I said as much a couple threads back.
And, a pictorial of my morning, part one.
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Way ahead of you, my friend.
Sinfonian, in meeting hell | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 12:57 pm | #
OK, how about this one:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/...g/ s_522725.html
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 08.18.07 - 1:00 pm | #
what. a. sick. fuck.
"We" could hit Australia. That'd be a lot of fun.
Poor Tom, he's taken abuse for his public support of the war!! I weep for him. But, he remains pure.
I'd hit Australia.
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what a nice man.
not a psychopath, no, not at all.
Jeffraham! Can i adopt Curly when you're done with him?
and i'm confused, you have 2 scooters now?
Pithy sum of the Bush admin I think: "Why did you do ___ Georgie?" "Because I can."
All signs point to "pretty hideous human being, one which all good people should shun."
preach it brother Atrios
That Charlie was what this war was about. We could've hit Saudi Arabia, it was part of that bubble. We coulda hit Pakistan. We hit Iraq because we could.
iraq - the sandy greneda
Atrios is doing some seriously good blogging today.
Bonjour, plum.
Friedman has too much of his previous writings invested in the war in Iraq.
He'd lose so much face if he admitted he was wrong, so he does what any egotistical prick would do.
He lies and says the fucking disaster that is Iraq was the wise thing to do.
I gotta go do things. Laters, all.
hey Moe! long time no see. Bush is in Montebello this week. The little Québec town is becoming a bunker. Lots of protests in perspective.
Atrios is doing some seriously good blogging today.
Alice
especially the gambas rojas
Let's just build a giant electric fence around the RNC and throw in food once a day:
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/sto...948161&
nav=0Ra7
That Charlie was what this war was about. We could've hit Saudi Arabia, it was part of that bubble. We coulda hit Pakistan. We hit Iraq because we could.
perfectly catches the spirit of a lynch mob.
plum p: Jeffraham! Can i adopt Curly when you're done with him?
It may be 15 years or so...
and i'm confused, you have 2 scooters now?
Yep -- a new, fast (when not broken down), broken-down Kymco scooter, and the used Vino that I bought in April, which has a top speed of 25mph on level ground.
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That's a good one, Bjorn.
I just sent the link to my DFH friend from Erie. 
Pithy sum of the Bush admin I think: "Why did you do ___ Georgie?" "Because I can."
tikistitch | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:03 pm | #
"we crapped all over the constitution because we could"
Michael Deaver has passed onto whatever awaits.
There is something truly f*cked up about American food. It's making us all fat. And unhappy. And Republican.
It's making some doctors rich. The highest paid medical profession on average (in the US) is gastroenterology, not far down the list are cardiac docs.
Both would have less work if Americans ate more of the kind of food Atrios has been showing us from his trip to Spain.
Doug | 08.18.07 - 1:05 pm
lichtenstien: you're next, muthafuckers.
In the immortal words of Brion Gysin:
"Man is a Bad Animal"
Roseanne Barr was on the Bill Maher show a couple months back. I'm not a big Roseanne fan, but she was awesome. When the panelists came up with Friedman-esque crap, instead of trying to be all nice, like everyone treats everybody on TV, even madmen like Friedman, she'd be all, "You're crazy!" It was incredibly awkward and wonderful. I want Roseanne on every single network news show ever to just irritate all those guys.
We" could hit Australia. That'd be a lot of fun.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:01 pm
How about New Zealand? I'd like to rule at least part of New Zealand.
I'd be benevolent. Really.
GOP police blotter, Michael Deaver edition:
"Deaver's own image suffered a setback in 1987. He was convicted on three of five counts of perjury stemming from statements to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury investigating his lobbying activities with administration officials."
Friedman has the same "fist-pumping" male inadequacy issues as Lieberman.
According to Friedman, the US can do whatever it chooses to do because we're the SUPERPOWER.
Ergo: we are beyond morality, beyond trifling debate, we decide, others die.
But we'e excused cuz' we're trying to make the world "a better place!"
(For who?)
Let's just build a giant electric fence around the RNC and throw in food once a day:
Bjorn
great idea!
by the way, everytime i see you here, i start whistling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...related&
search=
i love that track!
We needed to go over there, basically, um, and um, uh, take out a very big state right in the heart of that world and burst that bubble, and there was only one way to do it.
Yeah, "bet the house" is a fantastic foreign policy posture for the US.
It's making some doctors rich. The highest paid medical profession on average (in the US) is gastroenterology
Really? Funny. I work with gut doctors (they spend their days pulling cancers out of you don't wanna know where). I should ask 'em for a loan.
i love that track!
plum p, who loves Al Gore | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:08 pm | #
And they say kids today can't make music!
I knew Friedman was a very very bad person when his bletherings were recommended as "top shelf" by one of the Borg's up and coming managers.
Xan here?
I'll respond to your scooter question over at the other place...
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, she'd be all, "You're crazy!" It was incredibly awkward and wonderful. I want Roseanne on every single network news show ever to just irritate all those guys.
tikistitch | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:07 pm | #
roseanne doesn't beat around the bush.
(that would be rosie)
Makes me so sad to think people I like actually respected that prick.
"What's happening is very rational in a capitalist system."
- Idiot on CNN
It is not rational. Greed is not rational.
According to Friedman, the US can do whatever it chooses to do because we're the SUPERPOWER.
Not much different than what's always passed for loyalty to your king, or patriotism to your country.
You are not supposed to complain that your leaders have gotten their country stuck in another dumb fucking war, if you are one of the serfs.
And they say kids today can't make music!
Bjorn
i never say that! I have my own radio show every thursdays, since 1993!
That's not fist-pumping. That's wanking.
The Moustache of death is equal parts evil and stupid.
Plus, he's from Cockeysville:
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.c...ives/
120115.asp
ErinPDX
mrs g is in portland today.
*sigh*
time for a kitten break, from Lisbon!
http://www.dailykitten.com/
i never say that! I have my own radio show every thursdays, since 1993!
plum p, who loves Al Gore
I have my own radio show every Monday since ... July.
i never say that! I have my own radio show every thursdays, since 1993!
plum p, who loves Al Gore | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:11 pm | #
OK, call me ignorant, but post the link.
time for a kitten break, from Lisbon!
we should invade lisbon.
because we can.
Roseanne was always a so-so comedian to me in those sitcoms she was in. But turn her loose in a talk panel and she'll melt the ass of any moron or Gooper or others of their ilk, just like it was made of candle wax.
Twelve year-old Lieberman, stately senator:
Lieberman likes expressions of American power. A few years ago, I was in a movie theatre in Washington when I noticed Lieberman and his wife, Hadassah, a few seats down. The film was “Behind Enemy Lines,” in which Owen Wilson plays a U.S. pilot shot down in Bosnia. Whenever the American military scored an onscreen hit, Lieberman pumped his fist and said, “Yeah!” and “All right!”
Roseanne was always a so-so comedian to me in those sitcoms she was in.
but hilarious on the standup circuit
I work with gut doctors
I don't have the stats in front of me (you can google for them if you like)
but I think I've seen 4 or 5 hundred thousand a year as an average income number. Not too bad for a stinky job.
I have my own radio show every Monday since ... July.
Fuck you, Sinf.
So you think Roseanne's comments about gays and lesbians being selfish was a valid point? Would you have accepted it coming from an evangelical--as it has? Just askin'?
roseanne is very smart and very funny.
doesn't mean she can act.
According to Friedman, the US can do whatever it chooses to do because we're the SUPERPOWER.
Guys like Friedman believe that the best model for US foreign policy is to follow how alpha-male chimpanzees behave in the jungle.
Wow. I just read that Brazil's healthcare system will now cover sex change surgery, for free.
Their constitution guarantees medical care as a basic right.
A panel of federal judges there has given the government 30 days to offer the procedure or face fines of $5000(US) a day, but the health minister was already planning to include the procedures.
The court's ruling said "from the biomedical perspective, transsexuality can be described as a sexual identity disturbance where individuals need to change their sexual designation or face serious consequences in their lives, including intense suffering, mutilation and suicide.
This was from the AP in my Tulsa World newspaper.
Can you even imagine a country like that?
I may be charged with misdemeanors, but at least they're not felonies. Vote for me!
http://www.mysanantonio.com/
news...od.332999c.html
Roseanne was always a so-so comedian to me in those sitcoms she was in. But turn her loose in a talk panel and she'll melt the ass of any moron or Gooper or others of their ilk, just like it was made of candle wax.
I think in order to be a pundit on any TV show, you should first have to spend an hour on live TV in front of a panel consisting of John Stewart & Roseanne.
Not too bad for a stinky job.
Doug
Plumbers make good money.
I have my own radio show every Monday since ... July.
Sinfonian
and i haven't had the chance to listen, bad moi.
OK, call me ignorant, but post the link.
Bjorn
click on my link, and then top left "écoutez la radio en direct". It's on thursdays at 11pm, Montréal time. British indie is my format.
was it this blog or another where the guy posted about seeing tom friedman on the street & saying 'youre tom friedman" & friedman freakin out & screaming "who the fuck are you?!?!?"
plum p - For you.
NTodd, start your own show. I'll listen, as I'm sure many of us will.
I'll even call in.
Also, fuck you.
Roseanne was always a so-so comedian
Yeah... but I love the line from her early stand up days when she said:
"Some people say I'm not very lady-like.. well those people can just suck my dick."
*sigh*
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
neat! Might be a little shower but refreshingly cool. A conference?
Can you even imagine a country like that?
Sure. I've seen pictures of carnival.
I don't have the stats in front of me (you can google for them if you like) but I think I've seen 4 or 5 hundred thousand a year as an average income number. Not too bad for a stinky job.
My colleagues work at a VA hospital, so prolly take in less. But the guys who have a little cottage industry giving colonoscopies? Yup, I totally believe it.
So you think Roseanne's comments about gays and lesbians being selfish was a valid point?
didn't see the show but a) i've heard it from gay comics (and kathy griffen) and yes its different than hearing it from falwell
and b) every person or group is either good or evil is the bush way of thinking. if friedman ever says anything intelligent, i'll agree with it. iirc, he did once back in the 90s.
I think in order to be a pundit on any TV show, you should first have to spend an hour on live TV in front of a panel consisting of John Stewart & Roseanne.
tikistitch
Hear! Hear! I'd pay to see Bobo or Georgie Will tell their usual stupid lies to those two!
nuncamas--brazil's healthcare system may cover sex change operations, but it is an inefficient element of an inefficient social system. their pension systems are some of the most generous in the world--but studies show they benefit the wealthy more than the poor or middle class; their education system is slanted solely toward the wealthy, with underfunded primary and secondary education (where the rich send their kids to private schools) but free higher education for those who qualify--which is the wealthy. the poor in brazil must pay for private, substandard high education. they have policies that limit competition to keep the wealthy rich and the poor poor. they tax more than most countries but give so much to the upper classes through "social" programs that they have no money for roads, for hospitals, for infrastructure. brazil also has a human slavery problem that they have been relatively unwilling to address.
Edwards calls Ann Coulter 'she-devil'
"Former Sen. John Edwards on Friday fired the latest round in his ongoing verbal feud with Ann Coulter, calling her a 'she-devil' at a public event before quickly adding that he shouldn't engage in name-calling," according to a blog post at ABC News. Excerpts:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Ed...devil_0818.html
Deaver's brain has been removed and will be surgically crammed into Rove's capacious skull.
Rove will be back tapdancing at the next DC Politico-Infotainwhore Dinner-- no flash photography allowed.
dirk--as a gay man, i wasn't offended by roseanne's comment. in factg, i think it's a bit true. i'm by no means a log cabin republican but at least i give these guys a bit of credit for having more than a monolithic approach to being gay.
personally, i love roseanne, her stand-up (saw her years ago opening for suzanne sommers in vegas along with father guido sarduchi), and her show.
neat! Might be a little shower but refreshingly cool. A conference?
ErinPDX | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:18 pm | #
no, pure vacation. she was visiting our grandkids in sacramento, timed it to when her friend from burkina faso was going to be in portland, where my brother lives too.
she forgot to bring warm clothes tho - it's been hovering near 100 here - when i talked to her this morning she had goose bumps that were not of my making.
iraq - the quicksandy greneda
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
fondled your topiary
I must add Freidman to the list:
"Everthing that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Freidman, et al prophisied that would come to pass in Iraq, hasn't.
Everthing that Howard Dean prophisied would come to pass in Iraq, has.
And they call Dr. Dean, 'The Crazy One'?"
did anyone se the end of my tag? i seem to have misplaced it.
Yeah, we could have picked Saudi Arabia, but for some odd reasons, we didn't.
plum p - For you.
GWPDA
oh merci! I would love one of them! But Henriette is not interested.
For the record, Brazil has the largest Catholic population in the world.
Law and order, publican style:
"City Councilman Dennis P. Gallagher has been indicted by a Queens grand jury investigating rape allegations against him, the councilman and his lawyer confirmed yesterday. The indictment remained sealed yesterday and Mr. Gallagher, a Queens Republican, said he did not know what charges were handed up."
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/
ab...DA10894DF404482
fondled your topiary
Lumpenprolitariot
hey - no stroking my bush without permission.
"Well suck on this." He actually said that? Macho must be the last, desperate pose of the effete.
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For the record, Brazil has the largest Catholic population in the world.
Sinfonian, in meeting hell
some of them are nearly seven feet tall.
Okay, lunchtime.
Talk to you patriotz laterz.
Fuck you, NTodd.
another pro-war Arab-hating Jewish American. How many does that make?
Perle, Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby - am I forgetting anyone?
"She-devil" is mild compared to what I call Coulter. Mine is more like a four letter word and it rhymes with "runt."
brazil has the largest catholic population, but polls show that most of them are non-practicing. it is just about the least catholic place i've been to--at least the major cities. there is nothing holy about rio, which is why it is so damn fun.
Edwards is way off base here. Coulter should be referred to as a "he"-devil only.
"Bye 'bats! Gotta go excavate our living room so the French people will have some place to sit down. (Wonder if this qualifies me as a 9/11 rescue worker, should ask Rudy.)
I feel like I should spend this day pooping and sleeping.
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i will do something unheard of: praise Dell!
they've chosen "the w.a.n.d." by the Flaming Lips for their autumn tv ad campain. It plays every 10 minutes here on local tv. I love The Lips with a passion. And that song is political as well! So Dell: right on!
here's roseanne's blog...
she's hip to the sitch.
http://roseanneworld.com/blog/index.php
"She-devil" is mild compared to what I call Coulter. Mine is more like a four letter word and it rhymes with "runt."
I think the word is "bint" not "bunt".
I've read recently however about Lula's reforms which are now benefitting a whole lot of the poor in the Northeast. They get a monthly stipend and the schools have been improved for the poor.
I haven't been there in a long time, but the gap between the very rich and the unimaginably poor has been ever thus.
I feel like I should spend this day pooping and sleeping.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:25 pm | #
I do them simultaneously
/Vitter
plum p: they've chosen "the w.a.n.d." by the Flaming Lips for their autumn tv ad campain. It plays every 10 minutes here on local tv. I love The Lips with a passion. And that song is political as well! So Dell: right on!
Is that the one with the babes putting a red and black engine into a notebook? I thought that tune might be an old Devo tune.
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Gotta go do stuff.
Laters.
dirk--as a gay man, i wasn't offended by roseanne's comment. in factg, i think it's a bit true. i'm by no means a log cabin republican but at least i give these guys a bit of credit for having more than a monolithic approach to being gay.
sorry - then i don't understand the point of your initial post (unless it was to be provacative/pick a fight) and i'm not sure i know what you mean in this one. "a monolithic approach to being gay?" as if sexual orientation has anything to do with approach to fiscal policy?
i only have two issues with log cabin republicans. 1) they are republicans and 2) they belong to a party whose official platform is to treat them as less than full citizens.
(i like lists)
nuncamas--lula's social programs are marginal at best. where he has most helped the poor is by adopting conservative fiscal policies (in the sense that he hasn't been running bigger deficits) and in having a central bank that controls inflation. people are now investing in brazil, which is helping growth and helping the poor. businesses are more willing to hire people now, even with some of the most restrictive labor laws in the world, because things are a bit more stable. still, brazil has one of the worst income inequalities in the world and that isn't changing.
The RNC is clearly deserving of RICO status:
Cooper started crafting the scheme in September 2004 after winning the Republican primary for the Missouri House,
http://www.semissourian.com/stor...ry/
1245892.html
Is that the one with the babes putting a red and black engine into a notebook? I thought that tune might be an old Devo tune.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
well maybe that's an exclusive canadian tv ad campaign. This is The Flaming Lips song i'm talking about. Listen to the lyrics, it's a call for pitchfork! (or in this Harry Potter world:wands)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?
v=9fcheMyNsN4
i liked this post on roseanne's blog.
http://www.roseanneworld.com/blo.../
in_english.php
dirk--
most gays who are at all political (and few of my gay friends are--which may be why they are my friends) have only one thing that matters to them--issues relating to gay rights. i'm not downplaying this importance--it's very important--but i rarely hear them talk about the poor, talk about the war (unless it is don't ask, don't tell), the environment. they want all this pro-gay legislation but think they have no other responsibilities in the world. i think it's not the most attractive part of the community. that's all i meant by monolithic. most gays think all gays should only think of gay rights. some of us think of other issues, too, issues that may even be more important to us than same sex marriage.
they've chosen "the w.a.n.d." by the Flaming Lips for their autumn tv ad campain.
my son is the artistic director of a little avante garde theater here, and they put on a dance show to "the pink robots" album. it was amazing.
they got there just in time, b/c about a week after they got the rights someone decided to do it on broadway. don't know if that came off, but it would have prevented them from doing it.
plum p: well maybe that's an exclusive canadian tv ad campaign. This is The Flaming Lips song i'm talking about. Listen to the lyrics, it's a call for pitchfork! (or in this Harry Potter world:wands)
Yep; different commercial, different tune. I'm not even sure if the one I'm talking about is for Dell, as opposed to HP, etc.
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don't know if that came off, but it would have prevented them from doing it.
dirk gently
soooo coool!
now it's my turn to abandon you to go light bulb and food shopping. Yes, i'm buying Al Gore light bulbs, don't worry!
see ya lot later
Armstrong to buttonhole candidates.
story @ 11.
Michael Deaver, one of Ronald Reagan's closest advisers, has died of pancreatic cancer. He was 69.
Freeze the brain so we can document the atrocities later.
As for Friedman, he's a sick rich white fuck and if there's any justice he shits his last shit alone on a cholera cot under the blazing sun.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story....an/
5061221.html
PEARLAND — Korean War veteran Nyles Reed, 75, opened an envelope last week to learn a Purple Heart had been approved for injuries he sustained as a Marine on June 22, 1952.
But there was no medal. Just a certificate and a form stating that the medal was "out of stock."
"I can imagine, of course, with what's going on in Iraq and Afghanistan, there's a big shortage," Reed said. "At least, I would imagine so."
The form letter from the Navy Personnel Command told Reed he could wait 90 days and resubmit an application, or buy his own medal.
After waiting 55 years, however, Reed decided to pay $42 for his own Purple Heart and accompanying ribbon — plus state sales taxes — at a military surplus store.
Did I miss something - why did this come up? I mean, it isn't like we don't know the mustache tickles the Bushies' privates, but did he do/say something today that I missed?
most gays who are at all political (and few of my gay friends are--which may be why they are my friends) have only one thing that matters to them--issues relating to gay rights.
i don't find that to be true at all. in fact, the opposite. because i have friends who are politically involved and just happen to be gay, i guess, instead of friends that are gay who happen to be politcally involved.
not to say i don't believe you - i certainly know gay people whose only political interest is gay rights. i just don't consider them really 'politically interested,' any more than the guy trying to build a walmart who shows up at every town meeting.
As for Friedman, he's a sick rich white fuck and if there's any justice he shits his last shit alone on a cholera cot under the blazing sun.
Stunt Woman | 08.18.07 - 1:35 pm | #
Depends on the prenup with his billionaire wife.
crawdaddy's again.
that's all i meant by monolithic. most gays think all gays should only think of gay rights. some of us think of other issues, too, issues that may even be more important to us than same sex marriage.
Maybe they could watch that episode of The West Wing where the gay Republican congressman explains to Josh how he can be a gay Republican. I didn't buy his argument, but at least it was a rational explanation.
most gays who are at all political (and few of my gay friends are--which may be why they are my friends) have only one thing that matters to them--issues relating to gay rights.
You are a lying asshole.
To answer A's question: yes, Friedman is a very, very bad person who already has his space in the Duck Pit. (where is gf/apprentice, anyway?)
so, let's just say then that a majority of gays are one issue oriented...
and, why is that a problem? it's not like everyone else is jumping on their cause or anything.
The form letter from the Navy Personnel Command told Reed he could wait 90 days and resubmit an application, or buy his own medal.
After waiting 55 years, however, Reed decided to pay $42 for his own Purple Heart and accompanying ribbon — plus state sales taxes — at a military surplus store.
We are making our veterans BUY their own purple hearts??????? WTF? If they have the at the store, then they're not out of stock. This is just beyond the pale.
You are a lying asshole.
Stunt Woman | 08.18.07 - 1:37 pm | #,
no, i wouldn't say that. i think it's more a matter of identification.
like i said above, activists who are gay rather than gays who are active.
at a politcal rally or event, how do you even know who is gay or straight? hmmm? unless that is the primary way they self-identify and present themselves.
personally, i believe if it wasn't for all this homophobic anti-gay crap the pugs/fundies/islamists push around, "being gay" would not be such a major part of anyone's life. when i stand up for universal healthcare, no one asks me which positions my wife and i prefer, or who is on top. with gays, it's only an issue because it's an issue.
n69n -- I loved that one, too.
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It is not rational. Greed is not rational.
Snow, Liberal
As I recall it is one of the seven deadly sins...
and, why is that a problem? it's not like everyone else is jumping on their cause or anything.
fokowi at lake cabin | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:40 pm | #
i am.
so is catholic kucinich, btw. because human rights and dignity are the real issue, regardless of the details.
This is just beyond the pale.
It certainly is.
And now I'm kinda down on Edwards because of his silly answer on health care (see tpm). crap. No John, the private sector is not really doing that well at providing health care. Sorry.
when i stand up for universal healthcare, no one asks me which positions my wife and i prefer, or who is on top. with gays, it's only an issue because it's an issue.>I think that's right. Sort of like the old rules that said gays couldn't hold security clearances because they were subject to blackmail. Well, then quit making an issue out of who sleeps with whom. Plus, when your entire life is politicized, it's understandable why you might want to get away from politics.
And now I'm kinda down on Edwards because of his silly answer on health care (see tpm). crap. No John, the private sector is not really doing that well at providing health care. Sorry.
ErinPDX | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:45 pm | #
And now I'm kinda down on Edwards because of his silly answer on health care (see tpm). crap. No John, the private sector is not really doing that well at providing health care. Sorry.
ErinPDX | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:45 pm | #
SLANTIES! try again:
exactly what i've been screaming about for months.
kucinich is the only one who is right on this issue. and a bunch of others (like the aforementioned gay marriage issue, or national security, or the real ways to confront terrorism)
why oh why do people support the best candidate instead of the person who would make the best president?
and, why is that a problem? it's not like everyone else is jumping on their cause or anything.
fokowi at lake cabin | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:40 pm | #
i am.
so is catholic kucinich, btw. because human rights and dignity are the real issue, regardless of the details.
dirk gently, sociopathetic© | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:44 pm | #
i know some good people are out there such as yourself... i was merely suggesting that there are not enough people outside the gay community really being advocates for equality.
In Unprecedented Order, FISA Court Requires Bush Administration to Respond to ACLU's Request That Secret Court Orders Be Released to the Public
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/
spy...rs20070817.html
Friedman is married to Ann Bucksbaum, an economist and a graduate of Stanford University.[13] Bucksbaum's father, Matthew Bucksbaum, is the chairman of the board of General Growth Properties, a real estate development group he co-founded with his brother in 1954. The Bucksbaums helped pioneer the development of shopping centers in the United States.[14] As of 2007, Forbes estimated the Bucksbaum family's assets at $4.1 billion, including about 18.6 million square meters of mall space. (Wikipedia)
I always figured his daddy in law had to be powerful to have catapulted him to success.
From TPM...
Edwards is also careful to temper his progressivism with more centrist positions. Speaking to Rolling Stone, Edwards ... even demonized single-payer health care: "Do you think the American people want the same people who responded to Hurricane Katrina to run their health-care system?"
i was merely suggesting that there are not enough people outside the gay community really being advocates for equality.
true on all too many issues, i'm afraid. like people on medicare who don't care about universal healthcare. i forget who was commenting yesterday about a town meeting where her rep/senator said we shouldn't mess with the healthcare system, because people with employer plans were pretty happy with it.
but that about sums it up for me.
"Do you think the American people want the same people who responded to Hurricane Katrina to run their health-care system?"
d'oh!
we don't want the same people who responded to katrina IN government.
what a stupid thing for edwards to say. he sounds like ron paul.
I would like the same people who run medicare and social security to run my healthcare system. I sure as hell don't want the insurance companies involved.
Edwards just isn't with the program.
gonna go sniff some glue and then do some posting in a few neocon blogs.
good times.
I will point out the obvious. Friedman seems to get excited about any plan that involves killing Arabs.
FISA Court Requires Bush Administration to Respond to ACLU's Request That Secret Court Orders Be Released to the Public
gee, i wonder how many fingers will be used in the response?
i seem to be monopolizing the conversation a bit, think it's time for me to go get some breakfast.
bbl.
ErinPDX -- I'm really surprised at that Edwards quote. My understanding of his proposal is that it offers a pretty good way of moving toward single-payer over time, setting up a program that competes with the private sector effectively enough that eventually it's likely to supplant the present system completely.
I was quite impressed when I read about the plan because I do think the most serious problem right now is how to sustain the economy of the private system -- all the jobs directly and indirectly related to it -- while getting the profit motive out of it.
I'll have to re-read the plan because there must be something I didn't understand.
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People being happy with their employer based plans have helped to keep the rest of the folks without healthcare. That system is collapsing with fewer and fewer people being included. We have to raise everybody up or nothing will work because they will always find ways to divide and conquer.
To paraphrase James Galbraith, the modern neo-conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for the proposition that might really does make right.
"Do you think the American people want the same people who responded to Hurricane Katrina to run their health-care system?"
I want my doctor running my health care, John. And I just someone to pay him for it. That is it. But, if you insist on equating universal health insurance with government run hospitals, I never had a problem with the military hospital system.
FISA Court Requires Bush Administration to Respond to ACLU's Request That Secret Court Orders Be Released to the Public
it really is just a few brave handful of judges and attorneys representing these clients and those held in gitmo from that final nail being driven...
Edwards just isn't with the program.
Edwards is an ass.
Too bad his wife is in such dire straights with her health. She should be the candidate, not him.
word, lord...
I'll have to re-read the plan because there must be something I didn't understand.
I think you understood it. You summarized it well enough. The issue some have is that it is based on a competitive market. And there is really no need for that.
yes hes a very bad person.
anyone who loves war that much and wants to see more war no matter the cost is indeed a very bad person.
Friedman's powerful father in law has over 4 billion bucks plus mucho shopping centers. I always wondered who his rich benefactor was. (Wikipedia)
"Do you think the American people want the same people who responded to Hurricane Katrina to run their health-care system?"
I would love the people who responded to Katrina to run the health care system. It was, as I recall American citizens, Canadian Mounties and Cuban doctors that responded. It was the people like Bush and Brownie who didn't respond that shouldn't be in charge of anything except throwing their own feces around in their unpadded cell.
"Do you think the American people want the same people who responded to Hurricane Katrina to run their health-care system?"
A point made by TPM's Steve Benen...
Indeed, I wonder how far Edwards and Romney are prepared to take this little comparison. Do they want the same people who responded to Katrina running Medicare and providing healthcare to seniors? How about S-CHIP and providing access for children? How about Social Security? Should all of them be privatized because the Bush administration is incapable of governing?
Maybe Edwards was misquoted. Maybe he was kidding and was taken out of context. I'd love to hear an explanation. In the meantime, when leading Democratic candidates repeat misguided Republican talking points on healthcare reform, it's a problem.
Friedman is detached and delusional..the war and the people dying in the war will never, ever get close to him so he doesn't care.
He did go to a good school and married into a shitload of money so his opinion is extremely important.
Maybe Edwards was misquoted. Maybe he was kidding and was taken out of context. I'd love to hear an explanation.
I would too. But I doubt it will change my vote. I'm done. I'll vote for Kucinich in the primary.
He did go to a good school and married into a shitload of money so his opinion is extremely import
Going to a good school, but having never learned a thing (except for where the local brew house was), or forgetting all your lessons, kind of invalidates whatever benefits, beyond a well filled rolodex of contacts, a good school bestows on you.
i forget who was commenting yesterday about a town meeting where her rep/senator said we shouldn't mess with the healthcare system, because people with employer plans were pretty happy with it.
I wonder if any polling was done on how many people agreed with Dumbya's 2000 assertion that he was going to stop Al Gore from turning Social Security into some kind of federal program. I wouldn't be surprised if that got 30+% to agree.
This is an old quote from an old program, but lets face it, not TF's finest moment, even assuming he had any fine ones at all.
We are shattering lives because we can, and making another country hell on earth because those heathen ragheads are sitting on OUR FUCKING OIL!
He did go to a good school and married into a shitload of money so his opinion is extremely important.
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betcha that was the big plan,then he could type away at his 12,000 sq ft house near DC...not 1200 like Madam Hecate...12,000 sq ft ..to sell his NONSENSE,and injurious LIES 12th ring of HELL
This is an old quote from an old program, but lets face it, not TF's finest moment, even assuming he had any fine ones at all.
This was a bit more recent:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01...edman-liberals/
Last January. He's still a huge ass.
The American health care system - where denial of service comes in a letter titled "Explanation of Benefits"
More photos from this morning's slow scoot, and LarryElvis!
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FRIEDMAN: I’m really sorry. Next time — Next time Ishwar [caller], I promise, I really promise, I’ll be a better liberal. I’ll not in any way support any effort to bring democracy to a country ruled by an oil-backed tyranny. I promise I will never do that again. I promise I’ll be a better liberal. I will view the prospect of Arabs forging a democracy as utterly impossible. They’re incapable of democracy. I agree with you on that now.
ASHBROOK: You’re going to sarcasm. We can feel you’ve taken your licks on this.
war odometer war bumper sticker.
(this one has someone's name all over the bottom of it, but it's simple enough to create on your own if you've got any computer publishing skills.)
http://carryabigsticker.com/imag...es/
iran_500.gif
The progressive blogosphere should cast its vote and boycott anything having to do with Friedman. His one gift to this debate has been the coining of the "Friedman Unit" and its contribution to uncovering the language of bamboozlement.
Charlie Rose loves Walmart!
More photos from this morning's slow scoot, and LarryElvis!
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"The indications from a draft of several months ago that the Kurds were using, is that…there is an undue ability of our oil companies to control the Iraqi profits by controlling the infrastructure and the wells that are there."
"I mean they [U.S. oil companies] are going to get much more, if the draft is correct, of profits than we would under a normal oil sharing agreement, of these oil companies to a country like Saudi Arabia or others. Heaven forbid that at the end of this time, after all this, if we find out that there’s undue advantage given to our oil companies." -- Sestak
http://thinkprogress.org/
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ sittenpretty! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Oh, it's 98.2°F here in the 'hood, today... cooler than Thursday, anyway.
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Heaven forbid that at the end of this time, after all this, if we find out that there’s undue advantage given to our oil companies.
Why does he think Iraqi politicians would rather go on vacation rather than give Dumbya and Cheney what they want? If only our Congress had done the same.
Except that this is only a few speaking truth against the masses, this is kind of good news.
Air Force Academy Faculty and Students Go Public against Evangelical Christian Bias in the Military
http://www.americanhumanist.org/
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♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ sittenpretty! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Oh, it's 98.2°F here in the 'hood, today... cooler than Thursday, anyway.
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I’m really sorry. Next time — Next time Ishwar [caller], I promise, I really promise, I’ll be a better liberal. I’ll not in any way support any effort to bring democracy to a country ruled by an oil-backed tyranny.
The problem, Tommy, is that war . . . well, is just not very good for theoretical social engineering tests. Nor was that why you supported going after those scary NBC weapons.
sittenpretty: it was 88 last nite at 9pm when i got home. how is that possible ,that it cant cool off here in the foothills
It's the lack of tornadoes.
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Jeff ...fukka youzelf mokay?
is just not very good for theoretical social engineering tests
That plus imposing Democracy was never given as a reason in the decision to bomb Arabs. It was reason 38 after the others failed to shore up support for Bush's and Friedman's genocide in Iraq.
I don't know if Tom Friedman is a bad person - but, in six months or so, it'll be a lot clearer!
sorry FOLKS... FRED looks as bad as Pony Blow ...not fresh and rested
augres poorly imo
sittenpretty: Jeff ...fukka youzelf mokay?
Life keeps calling first dibs on that.
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I mean they [U.S. oil companies] are going to get much more, if the draft is correct, of profits than we would under a normal oil sharing agreement, of these oil companies to a country like Saudi Arabia or others.
This is what Tom Freidman really means by "democracy".
For fucks like him, it's a code word for a government that supports "free" markets, ie. it invites foreign companies to come in and loot the place.
sorry forgot to post pic
http://images.huffingtonpost.com...-18-
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"Nor was that why you supported going after those scary NBC weapons."
I'm more worried about the various places, past and present production of NBC weapons, have been/ or are currently being dumped or stored. They are a real hazard to the populace, much more than the damage a couple planes hitting buildings in NYC are.
If you can still find it. (the original gov sites that used to have this data have been purged) look up just this; the amount and types of radio-nucleotides, the US population has been exposed to from nuclear tests, processing and storage.
Is Friedman supposedly a liberal? How many liberals use the word "liberal" as an epithet?
sittenpretty: Jeff ...fukka youzelf mokay?
Life keeps calling first dibs on that.
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i doesnt even want to visit the moo cowz today
i does ,but i doesnt
sittenpretty: i doesnt even want to visit the moo cowz today
i does ,but i doesnt
When life hands you cows
Take them lemonade.
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"Well suck on this." He actually said that? Macho must be the last, desperate pose of the effete.
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Sparkle Plenty
As I recall, "Suck on this!" is what Harvey Keitel's pimp character Sport said to Travis Bickel (Robert DeNiro) in Taxi Driver right before Bickel made short work of him and saved little Iris (Jodie Foster) the child prostitute.
Kind of apt ole Tom would co-opt the phrase.
When life hands you cows
Take them lemonade.
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izzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz lazzzzzzzzzzzzzy
izzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz lazzzzzzzzzzzzzy
sittenpretty
At the vigil today a very mad young woman screamed that we should all get jobs. 
At the vigil today a very mad young woman screamed that we should all get jobs.
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isn't it saturday?
At the vigil today a very mad young woman screamed that we should all get jobs.
It sounds like a crap job she wants you to get, if you don't get weekends off.
At the vigil today a very mad young woman screamed that we should all get jobs.
i should get a job.
if i hadn't made such a crapload of money in the last one, i would have already.
but it's almost gone now.
Is Friedman supposedly a liberal? How many liberals use the word "liberal" as an epithet?
George Johnston
i use it as an epitath.
izzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz lazzzzzzzzzzzzzy
sittenpretty
At the vigil today a very mad young woman screamed that we should all get jobs.
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yea poor stoopit ting
These ad hominem attacks on the greatest essayist of our time, who has a powerful moustache to boot, are beneath the God of the Lefty Blogosphere.
Atrios should address the assertions put forth by Mr. Friedma rather than call him a bad person. That is so rude.
WTF?
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Eric Miller's career as an Army Ranger wasn't ended by a battlefield wound, but his DNA.
Lurking in his genes was a mutation that made him vulnerable to uncontrolled tumor growth. After suffering back pain during a tour in Afghanistan, he underwent three surgeries to remove tumors from his brain and spine that left him with numbness throughout the left side of his body.
So began his journey into a dreaded scenario of the genetic age.
Because he was born with the mutation, the Army argued it bore no responsibility for his illness and medically discharged him in 2005 without the disability benefits or health insurance he needed to fight his disease.
"The Army didn't give me anything," said Miller, 28, a seven-year veteran who is training to join the Tennessee Highway Patrol.
While genetic discrimination is banned in most cases throughout the country, it is alive and well in the U.S. military.
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Oh, silly me, same old story. Serve your country, get fucked.
At the vigil today a very mad young woman screamed that we should all get jobs.
Maybe she meant a blowjob.
At the vigil today a very mad young woman screamed that we should all get jobs.
I think it's great that you do this, week in, week out, regardless of the abuse. Did you tell her that you'd retired comforably from your job?
greatest essayist of our time,
LOL INFINATELY
Another man told us that the war meant freedom. But overall the comments and atmosphere were very supportive. I just wish there were more than just a dozen of us and that at least a few were under 50.
the bastard will rot in hell (if hell exists,of course. If not...tar and feathers!) - plum p
Why not both?
We hit Iraq because we could.
Really? You still think so?
aliens in america? new sitcom starting soon. the commercial was actually amusing, and if art imitates life shows middle america starting to catch on.
Maybe she meant a blowjob.
spinoza
Hmmmm. Not a bad idea. excuse me while I explain it to Mr. QL.
Another man told us that the war meant freedom. But overall the comments and atmosphere were very supportive. I just wish there were more than just a dozen of us and that at least a few were under 50.
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how far is it from Va. ? i can train over one weekend and join you..ill have to map it out
mt ql owes spinoza a big thank you.
Hmmmm. Not a bad idea. excuse me while I explain it to Mr. QL.
Prostitutes are known to frequent peace protests because DFHs have lots of $$.
I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna fix up the Vino.
It's possible (although not probable) that I will have a backup commuter, if I have the drive belt changed, and two simple (but beyond my skills), nearly cost-free mods done to it.
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Another man told us that the war meant freedom
What an idiot. Everyone knows that war means peace. Just like slavery means freedom. He should go back to the re-education camps.
My rudeometer is busted.
I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna fix up the Vino.
It's possible (although not probable) that I will have a backup commuter, if I have the drive belt changed, and two simple (but beyond my skills), nearly cost-free mods done to it.
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huh?
I heard Friedman use the word "serious" and its variants about 50 times in the course of his NPR interview the other day. I think we may be witnessing the death of this word as we know it. Henceforth it may only be deployed with irony...
ql--I deeply admire your dedication. Thank you.
It would take a very committed person to actively chose to attend a peace vigil instead of working. This would be a great sacrifice. So that young woman is an even bigger idiot, as I think on it.
sittingpretty
No need. There is probably one within a half hour of where you live. They really are all over. I know there is one even in Decatur, GA, Westchester, NY, Ground Zero. Really.
Another man told us that the war meant freedom.
YOU'D LOOK SWELL IN A BURKA!
/Melanie Morgan
Is the vino a scooter?
gregor
Is your price for 500 words of "writing" still 40 cents? Just curious.
sittingpretty
No need. There is probably one within a half hour of where you live. They really are all over. I know there is one even in Decatur, GA, Westchester, NY, Ground Zero. Really.
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i dunno ...its pretty redneck here
Is your price for 500 words of "writing" still 40 cents? Just curious.
With the credit squeeze, it's down 8.5%.
sittenpretty: huh?
The Yamaha Vino, dearheart -- the one that'd be a perfect scooter for you!
I've been exchanging e-mail with a mechanic this morning/afternoon, who says he'll do my belt replacement for $100... and he'll do the two simple mods (removing a washer from the variator, and removing a restrictor plate from the exhaust) for just a few bux, more. He said it should get me around at 40-45mph, after all's said and done.
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We gave our daughter permission to leave high school to attend a Books Not Bombs march before the invasion. A local t.v. station interviewed one of the "athletes" who said she would have marched too except her coach would have made her miss a game for skipping school.
I wrote an LTE pointing out that sometimes commitment to a cause required some personal sacrifice...
Richard, why does your gavatar change from one to another ocassionally?
They really are all over.
Do you know where I could find a list?
my horoscope for today:
let nothing hamper your momentum. think ahead and get the jump on opportunities. tonight, the love you put into the world will be returned to you tenfold from places you weren't expecting.
hmm. no wonder the neighbor is at the lake this weekend without her hubby.
interesting...
sittenpretty: huh?
The Yamaha Vino, dearheart -- the one that'd be a perfect scooter for you!
I've been exchanging e-mail with a mechanic this morning/afternoon, who says he'll do my belt replacement for $100... and he'll do the two simple mods (removing a washer from the variator, and removing a restrictor plate from the exhaust) for just a few bux, more. He said it should get me around at 40-45mph, after all's said and done.
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i was confused cause i thought it was running...slaps forehead gently
Meanwhile, kinda OT, could you good people beam some kind thoughts to the poor folks on Jamaica. Dean looks ready to bear down hard on them.
Do you mean, "The 'Stache that Wouldn't Die"?
Verily, if I hadda blog, I would surely write about such things...
The Yamaha Vino,
is it called that because the engine wines?
andrew: Is the vino a scooter?
Yep. It's a Yamaha. It's fun, it's cute, but too slow to be a good commuter bike for me, at present. The Kymco (when running) has no problems keeping up with and exceeding traffic speeds between here and Vandy. The Vino would be road pizza, in its current state.
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Meanwhile, kinda OT, could you good people beam some kind thoughts to the poor folks on Jamaica. Dean looks ready to bear down hard on them.
That country is fixing to take a sharp stick up the poop chute. I think I read that they haven't had a cat 5 storm in over 100 years.
Another man told us that the war meant freedom.
Old dude today told me I should be thankful for the vets who gave me my freedoms.
I told him God gave me my freedoms and he could check by reading the Declaration of Independence.
Richard, why does your gavatar change from one to another ocassionally?
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dear mer is here... ...im so lazzzzzzzzzzzzzzy...mebbe cause its 90 + degrees here...howz it there?
For the women who mourn their dead in the secret night,
For the children taught to keep quiet, the old children,
The children spat-on at school.
For the wrecked laboratory,
The gutted house, the dunged picture, the pissed-in well
The naked corpse of Knowledge flung in the square
And no man lifting a hand and no man speaking.
Litany for Dictators - Stephen Benet
And Tom Friedman is evil.
sittenpretty: i was confused cause i thought it was running...slaps forehead gently
It is... just very slowly, as it always has.
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I poke around west philly occasionally on a '78 Puch moped. Not as complicated as the Vino, though.
if mrs ql would spend her weekends productively - say, welcoming people to wal-mart - she wouldn't get mixed up in all this socialist nonsense.
The Yamaha Vino,
is it called that because the engine wines?
Silly. It's called Vino, because it drinks too much.
What an idiot. Everyone knows that war means peace. Just like slavery means freedom. He should go back to the re-education camps.
Of course.
The military industrial media is selling the latest suicider bombing that killed around 500 as proof that the surge is working because the terrorists are weary and all.
Why shouldn't war mean freedom if the above is true?
Oh look, there's a hookah smoking caterpillar...
Richard, why does your gavatar change from one to another ocassionally?
You'll have to ask gravatar.com. I've got both the green Hulk and the gray Hulk up on the site. You can switch between gravatars manually, but it seems they do it randomly for reasons unknown.
That country is fixing to take a sharp stick up the poop chute. I think I read that they haven't had a cat 5 storm in over 100 years.
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GILBERT?
You'll have to ask gravatar.com. I've got both the green Hulk and the gray Hulk up on the site
the hulk of dorian grey
Afternoon, rational people.
dirk gently: is it called that because the engine wines?
It actually sounds more like a weed whacker, to be honest. Li'l 2-stroke engine.
The name is apparently a nod to their ripping off classic Italian scooter styling of yesteryear (and really, even the new Vespas don't look that different from the older ones).
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From Dr. Jeff Masters blog:
Jamaica is my greatest concern. A direct hit by Dean would make it the worst hurricane strike on Jamaica for over a century. Jamaica has not received a direct hit by a Category 4 or 5 hurricane since perhaps 1832. The worst strikes of the 20th century were Category 3 Hurricane Gilbert of 1988 and Category 2 Hurricane Charlie of 1951. The Cayman Islands also have much to fear from Dean. Dean could rival Ivan as the Cayman's worst hurricane strike of the past century.
Do you know where I could find a list?
Hecate
Contact a local Quaker Meeting. They've been sponsoring quite a few in Wilmington. Or a local peace group. I found this at United for Peace & Justice:
RSVP • Walter Reed Weekly Vigil
6:00pm
Weekly Event
Every Fri 7-9pm
The start of the third year in front of Walter Reed. We hold vigil to ask that the Troops come home NOW, that they get the care they should, and that money be allocated for the wounded, not war.
Link
"...howz it there?"
--sittenpretty
Hey girl. Probably about the same. Too hot to venture outside for more than a couple of minutes.
I'm trying to recover my sanity at the moment. My husband decided to hookup a new router--should have taken 20 minutes, but two hours later we were still futzing with it. All seems well now. It does add to my stress level though.
smalfish: Silly. It's called Vino, because it drinks too much.
117mpg? That's a sipper!
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Is it really a 2 stroke? You have to mix the gas?
should i go sew on my new macine after all i am a INFJ
andrew: I poke around west philly occasionally on a '78 Puch moped. Not as complicated as the Vino, though.
What's its top speed, w/o pedal assist? How big's the engine? Is it a 2-stroke, too? Auto-mix?
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That country is fixing to take a sharp stick up the poop chute. I think I read that they haven't had a cat 5 storm in over 100 years.
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sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst | 08.18.07 - 2:50 pm
Apprently 'just' a 4 when it hit Jamacia:
This movement led to the hurricane's first landfall in Jamaica. The eye passed completely over Jamaica on September 12 with 135 mph winds, making it a Category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale. It was the first hurricane to make direct landfall in Jamaica since the 1951 season, when Hurricane Charlie passed over the island with winds around 100 mph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Hur...rricane_Gilbert
JP, I see you got "the contract." Did you watch it yet?
In Unprecedented Order, FISA Court Requires Bush Administration to Respond to ACLU's Request That Secret Court Orders Be Released to the Public
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/ spy...rs20070817.html
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Sure. They'll get right on it.
I'm trying to recover my sanity at the moment. My husband decided to hookup a new router--should have taken 20 minutes, but two hours later we were still futzing with it. All seems well now. It does add to my stress level though.
I just spent the last 4 hours under the kitchen sink replacing the faucet.
Man, that's a lot of fun.
Is it really a 2 stroke? You have to mix the gas?
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i've got a 2 stroke, and the only thing i have to mix is a martini
andrew: Is it really a 2 stroke? You have to mix the gas?
It's auto-mix -- the 2-stroke oil goes in a separate tank, and is metered into the intake manifold, automagically.
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QL,
Thanks, I'll check w/ the Quakers. I did know about that one at Walter Reed.
It's 49cc, and it's pre-mix. This is a Maxi, I think only the Puch Magnums from that era had the auto mix. Top speed is about 30 on a flat road with no headwind.
All seems well now. It does add to my stress level though.
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go pet doggy ...stress peels away unless they have the craps ,or vomit spree
should i go sew on my new macine after all i am a INFJ
sittenpretty
What kind did ya buy, and whatja sewing?
I had heard they were going to make it hard to import new 2stroke bikes.
I'm connected with a marine station in the caymans. Needless to say, I'm a bit of wreck about the danger to those beautiful islands and people, too.
andrew: JP, I see you got "the contract." Did you watch it yet?
Not yet -- just got it at the Redbox this morning, after breakfast. It was free, too... I have a buttload of freebies, as McD's is promoting the shit out of it. Get a large iced tea, get a free Redbox rental.
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If he were a decent person, he would have blown his brains out all over Charlie Rose's set.
What an asshole.
The Cayman Islands also have much to fear from Dean. Dean could rival Ivan as the Cayman's worst hurricane strike of the past century.
Shit. I love the Caymans. They won't be around much longer, I'm afraid. Certainly, 7 Mile Beach's days are numbered.
I saw it a couple of nights ago, and there's a reason it went straight to video. Shocking, given the cast.
Jamaica is my greatest concern. A direct hit by Dean would make it the worst hurricane strike on Jamaica for over a century. Jamaica has not received a direct hit by a Category 4 or 5 hurricane since perhaps 1832.
Given all the hurricanes in the gulf, I'm really surprised by that fact.
Jamaica is really in the bullseye...
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/...?
large#contents
Atrios= White Sport Coat And A Pink Crustacean
andrew: It's 49cc, and it's pre-mix. This is a Maxi, I think only the Puch Magnums from that era had the auto mix. Top speed is about 30 on a flat road with no headwind.
Ah, so you know where my Vino's comin' from! But I has no pedals. 
That Puch is probably actually a more complicated beast, owing to the pedal arrangement, and chain drive (I'd assume).
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If he were a decent person, he would have blown his brains out all over Charlie Rose's set.
Shorter Friedman: I loveses too much! I careses too deeply.
andrew: I had heard they were going to make it hard to import new 2stroke bikes.
I think they're barred from sale in California, already, so Yamaha and Honda have both made their new 50cc models all 4-stroke, to meet CARB compliance in CA.
Kymco and PGO (Genuine) are still importing 50cc 2-stroke, as are a lot of crappy Chinese manufacturers.
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time bandits is just ending.
i love the supreme being's final dialoges.
"i think i'll demote you to undergrowth. bracken and the like. with a 19% cut in pay backdated to the beginning of time"
"thank you,sir"
"well, i am the nice one."
That might be true. Though the vino probably has a more complicated electrical system right? Electric start? The tolerance on these older machines are pretty rough, making them easy work on, adjust the timing, fool with the exhaust, etc. The newer bikes get way better gas mileage and can go significantly faster.
This is the story of the Hurricane
That is the story of the Corey Haim
One dropped a lot of rain at once
One did a movie about a vampire in Santa Cruz
Heh.
Friedman is just an asshole. His books suck and he's never been right about anything he's ever said.
Hecate, here are a few more:
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
Washington, DC — Vigil, Tuesdays, 5 - 6 pm, Farragut North Metro, 17th and K Streets; People for Peace, Nicole, 202-547-5556 x27, peace_vigil@yahoo.com
Washington, DC — Vigil, Saturdays, 12 noon, West Lawn U.S. Capitol; AFSC, 202-299-1050, david.etheridge@verizon.net
The Pentagon (Arlington, VA) — Vigil, 7 - 8 am, 4th Mondays of each month, Metro Entrance; Jonah House and Dorothy Day CW, 410-233-6238, disarmnow@erols.com, www.jonahhouse.org
from the War Resistors League.
The chinese imports are so cheap I don't understand why they're not all over the place in Philly. City's perfect for them. It should look like Hanoi at rush hour.
Tom Friedman has a stupid stache
should i go sew on my new macine after all i am a INFJ
sittenpretty
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What kind did ya buy, and whatja sewing?
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sittenpretty
What kind did ya buy, and whatja sewing?
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http://www.sewingmachinesplus.co.../2039SN-
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aint it cute
im sewing little dresses for the doggies ...im nutzzzzzzzzzzzz
ql,
Thank you. I think that I need to start going to one of those regularly. You've inspired me.
The chinese imports are so cheap I don't understand why they're not all over the place in Philly. City's perfect for them. It should look like Hanoi at rush hour.
In that case, John McCain will offer to drop some bombs on Philly.
Last link I promise, but these are the Friends:
oin AFSC and local Quakers each Tuesday from 5:30 - 6:30 p.m. on the west lawn of the Capitol until further notice for a silent vigil to "Seek Peace and Pursue it". No additional signs please. Call Catherine (703-787-7595) or Bette at DC/AFSC (202-299-1050)
Usually they have signs already made that you can pick and choose amongst.
Tom Friedman is a billionaire marrying, chickenhawk cunt
jr-
Tell us what you really think. Don't hold back.
Friedman is just an asshole. His books suck and he's never been right about anything he's ever said.
He is a very good litmus test for dunbassery.
If you poke around on the wingnut blogs you'll find that Friedman is the Smartest Man Evah.
A being of pure energy who exists on Sunshine and patriotism, and shits wisdom and cold fusion reactors.
ot, i was invited to a gay male strip bar by two 21 year old girls last night. and mrs g is out of town.
life likes to tease me.
Tell us what you really think. Don't hold back.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 08.18.07 - 3:08 pm | #
That's the response politicos like to use when they're confronted. Just sayin'...
andrew: That might be true. Though the vino probably has a more complicated electrical system right? Electric start?
Yeah, but it's all still pretty simple. Dead reliable, too. I can always get the Vino to start, even if I haven't ridden it in two weeks.
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ot, i was invited to a gay male strip bar by two 21 year old girls last night. and mrs g is out of town.
You took them up on the offer, right? Anything else would be....well, gay.
McCain's a critic of the war now, remember? He's opposed to escalation. Even in Philly, which is, as we now know, more dangerous than baghdad.
from the War Resistors League.
ql-was in NY |
Thanks for the link, ql.
I found one a block from my office on Saturdays.
I can always get the Vino to start, even if I haven't ridden it in two weeks.
remind you of anyone?
ot, i was invited to a gay male strip bar by two 21 year old girls last night. and mrs g is out of town.
life likes to tease me.
I don't want to hate you, but you're making it very hard
You took them up on the offer, right? Anything else would be....well, gay.
smalfish,beatnik | 08.18.07 - 3:10 pm | #
i went to waffle house.
andrew: The chinese imports are so cheap I don't understand why they're not all over the place in Philly. City's perfect for them. It should look like Hanoi at rush hour.
I see 'em here in Gnashvegas. Several Roketas in the Vandy vicinity, but you see them, then you don't. When you don't, they're broken-down, somewhere. Those cheap Chinese scooters are just not worth the trouble, unless you're good with a wrench, and have a line on parts, constantly. Some have taken to buying two at a time -- one for parts. For that price, one could get a better scooter to begin with.
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i went to waffle house.
I see. I man of principal.
Burn in hell Mr. strait arrow!
That reliability is nice. I have to haul the Puch out of my living room, down two flights of steps from my porch, and about a quarter of the time the carb needs to be cleaned out before it'll start...not a lot of fun.
I was disappointed by "Hot Fuzz", but saying that sounds bi curious.
ot, i was invited to a gay male strip bar by two 21 year old girls last night. and mrs g is out of town.
You wouldn't have been able to figure out of you were coming or going...
I see. I man of principal.
no, just old and tired. it was late.
I hope that Pelosi and Reid and all the democrats who voted for our police state bush wiretapping bill are enjoying their fat fucking vacations knowing that they stuck with a fat fucking police state under the guardianship of the proven fascist bastards in the white house.
Thank you. I think that I need to start going to one of those regularly. You've inspired me.
Hecate
Well I don't know that we actually do any good except to remind people that you know, we're fighting a war. Right now we just assemble at this one spot and, because we're so few, we don't have a permit and nobody bothers us. I suspect if real numbers started coming out we would be required to apply for permits and after the first few times, denied.
McCain's a critic of the war now, remember? He's opposed to escalation. Even in Philly, which is, as we now know, more dangerous than baghdad.
andrew
as much as I usually roll my eyes when people say Jon Stewart wasn't tough enough (he is a comedian) I was disappointed he didn't challenge McCain's applause line about ending torture with a reminder of his gutless cave in on the MCA. Also, McCain piously declared there would be open trials, but voted for MCA, to gut FISA (and the Fourth Amendment) and Unitary Executive Alito.
Pretty much everything he said in that interview was a contradiction of everything he's voted for in the last six years.
Coward. Clown. Fool.
Missing the point in modern America, folks.
Friedman works for the New York Times
Friedman is a successful author (Whatever WE think of his books)
Friedman married someone wealthy.
Friedman is therefore an intellectual, liberal, accomplished, and tremendously moral person.
Intellectual is for the writing of books.
Liberal is for the Times (Though God knows WHY?)
Accomplished means he is old
Moral is because he is rich and all rich people are more moral than poor people otherwise God wouldn't've blessed them.
Sheesh! It's easy.
andrew: That reliability is nice. I have to haul the Puch out of my living room, down two flights of steps from my porch, and about a quarter of the time the carb needs to be cleaned out before it'll start...not a lot of fun.
Dang! Well, anything with a small carb has to be run regularly (or drained) to keep the fuel from gumming up the works.
I can't imagine having to haul the Vino up and down steps, even though I can lift it over a curb, no problem.
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now if the young ladies had been in their 30s ...
I don't want to hate you, but you're making it very hard
driftglass
No Flirting!
Thomas "Suck on This" Friedman. Has a ring to it.
Don't mean to brag, but it was me who tipped off Atrios on that "suck on this" line a few months back.
I hope that Pelosi and Reid and all the democrats who voted for our police state bush wiretapping bill
pelosi and reid voted against it. like most democrats.
it was primarily republicans who voted for.
Also, McCain piously declared there would be open trials, but voted for MCA, to gut FISA (and the Fourth Amendment) and Unitary Executive Alito.
McCain is like the Bizarro Manchurian candidate. He is willing to wreck the constitution from within.
"Do you think the American people want the same people who responded to Hurricane Katrina to run their health-care system?"
d'oh!
we don't want the same people who responded to katrina IN government.
what a stupid thing for edwards to say. he sounds like ron paul.
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
Or Sanjay Gooper.
In addition to the Puch I have a mid 70s VeloSolex which is basically a bicycle with a small motor mounted on the tire. That one maxes out at about 22, but it's easier to haul in and out of the house.
Tom Friedman is a billionaire marrying, chickenhawk cunt
jr
You'd think a billionaire would be a bit more picky.
Friedman works for the New York Times
Friedman is a successful author (Whatever WE think of his books)
Friedman married someone wealthy.
Imagine replacing Friedman's op ed pieces in the NYT with Studs Terkel.
Or Sanjay Gooper.
JT | 08.18.07 - 3:17 pm | #
sanjay has a personal interest, so that's different.
with ron, it's pure ideology.
just one mild threat today in wingnut blogville...
i think they are weakening...
No Flirting!
ql-was in NY |
spoil sport. bad enough i had to pass on the gay strip club.
Pretty much everything he said in that interview was a contradiction of everything he's voted for in the last six years.
Well it was WeatherVain McCain talking...
pelosi and reid voted against it. like most democrats.
it was primarily republicans who voted for.
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
Dirk, not to be picky but there was NO COMPELLING reason for Pelosi and Reid even allowing a vote on that malignant piece of shit legislation. THEY control the agenda. That IS the point.
andrew: In addition to the Puch I have a mid 70s VeloSolex which is basically a bicycle with a small motor mounted on the tire. That one maxes out at about 22, but it's easier to haul in and out of the house.
That sounds like fun. Pull start?
.
Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war.
John McCain
Don't mean to brag, but it was me who tipped off Atrios on that "suck on this" line a few months back.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 08.18.07 - 3:16 pm | #
Have you seen http://www.metacritic.com/
Fairly interesting
with ron, it's pure ideology.
Pure stupidity unites the two.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin: Don't mean to brag, but it was me who tipped off Atrios on that "suck on this" line a few months back.
I thought this was a re-run/old news...
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DWD - Ready to Revolt,
When leaves the big question unanswered. Why, specifically, when there are literally thousands of fine writers out there, does Schulzberg & Co. continue to employ trivial, 3rd rate hacks like Friedman and Brooks on the OpEd page of the NYT?
i went to waffle house.
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
Excellent choice! Whadcheat?
Nah, it's cruder than that even. You get up to speed riding it and then you drop the motor down on top of the front tire. That starts the motor and engages the centrifugal clutch.
Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war.
John McCain
His brain cavity houses a giant pustule.
THEY control the agenda. That IS the point.
Yup.
"Do you think the American people want the same people who responded to Hurricane Katrina to run their health-care system?"
thinking more about this ...
the federal gov't is like a computer.
not great when it comes to responding to new situations, not much on thinking out solutions.
but when it comes to the day-to-day processing and reporting of huge volumes of repetative tasks, it's the best.
People who live in waffle houses should not throw syrup bottles.
it was primarily republicans who voted for.
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
sorry,lets take this from the top,take two:
Those weenie eating dems who are enjoying their fat fucking vacation on Marthas Vineyard should be strangled with the guts of the mother fish who bred their caviar stuffed jaws.
When leaves the big question unanswered. Why, specifically, when there are literally thousands of fine writers out there, does Schulzberg & Co. continue to employ trivial, 3rd rate hacks like Friedman and Brooks on the OpEd page of the NYT?
driftglass
Do you think I don't ask myself this question every once in a while (Sobbing quietly, he asks)
Excellent choice! Whadcheat?
GWPDA, yclept Roving Historian
three eggs over messy, grits, toast, and hashbrowns scattered peppered smothered and topped.
and a pot of coffee.
oin AFSC and local Quakers each Tuesday
Fucking Quakers.
andrew: Nah, it's cruder than that even. You get up to speed riding it and then you drop the motor down on top of the front tire. That starts the motor and engages the centrifugal clutch.
Haw! That, I gotta see! I'll go Googling...
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later, malcontents. gonna go see what's up at the resort. probably no gay strippers, but surely plenty of lakechicks...
peace
"Do you think the American people want the same people who responded to Hurricane Katrina to run their health-care system?"
No, not chimpslime repuke appointed fifth columnist saboteurs. But try the people who run Medicare.
should be strangled with the guts of the mother fish who bred their caviar stuffed jaws.
gnu times | 08.18.07 - 3:23 pm | #
i like caviar.
odds are, i'd like the caviar's mom grilled with a little asparegus and horseradish, too.
So I was listening to this yahoo, Andrew Keen, on BookTV earlier today argue that the web was dangerous because people could post without giving their names. I guess he never read The Federalist Papers.
the federal gov't is like a computer.
not great when it comes to responding to new situations, not much on thinking out solutions.
but when it comes to the day-to-day processing and reporting of huge volumes of repetative tasks, it's the best.
Which is why we will eventually outsource the governance of the United States to China.
And pass the savings along to you!
later, malcontents. gonna go see what's up at the resort. probably no gay strippers, but surely plenty of lakechicks...
They're there, but it's an invitation only birthday fundraiser for your local Republican committeeman in the back room. And it's just a joke, of course....
This guy starts it with the motor on the wheel already, but you get the idea:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VXAXHizcMi8
martha's vineyard is very pleasant this time of year. if i could afford it, that's where i'd be.
They're there, but it's an invitation only birthday fundraiser for your local Republican committeeman in the back room. And it's just a joke, of course....
Jim | 08.18.07 - 3:26 pm | #
sounds like a party i should totally fucking crash, then.
Which is why we will eventually outsource the governance of the United States to China.
ever tried to use a chinese keyboard?
i can't, my arms aren't long enough.
Edwards calls Ann Coulter 'she-devil'
Shouldn't that be a he/she-devil?
i used to have a moped.
three eggs over messy, grits, toast, and hashbrowns scattered peppered smothered and topped.
and a pot of coffee.
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
Low carb dieting?
Edwards calls Ann Coulter 'she-devil'
Shouldn't that be a he/she-devil?
JT
that was my first thought, he gave her the benefit of the doubt....
But Satan issued a press-release:
"Don't blame that cunt on me or my family. I operate with a little subtlety and style."
Gilly Gonzylon, Pro Edwards | 08.18.07 - 3:21 pm | #
I go there once in a while...
So I was listening to this yahoo, Andrew Keen, on BookTV earlier today
did you see him on colbert? a much more enjoyable experience.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 3:22 pm | #
It is. A "greatest hits" on how Friedman sucks...
i used to have a moped.
Oh yeah.
Got high on qualudes one time and went for a spin. Had my brother on board and took a tumble. His ankle managed to find the spokes of the wheel.
three eggs over messy, grits, toast, and hashbrowns scattered peppered smothered and topped.
and a pot of coffee.
Sounds good.
WH does greasy hamburgers and fries well, also.
Low carb dieting?
GWPDA, yclept Roving Historian
i took fish oil pills when i got home.
and zocar.
and tricor.
and my blood pressure meds.
This is what Ann Coulter is...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z-mknABEP8s
andrew: This guy starts it with the motor on the wheel already, but you get the idea:
Haw! What a trip! It's pretty loud, too.
.
Old news, prolly, but Dr. Black is up at Wikipedia under "Friedman Unit". Didja know that Friedman first used his unit in November 2003? Gee, and I thought the time from Nov 03 to now was, oh, dunno, at least seven months, surely?
Yeah, I'll BET it was passed in ERROR.
http://www.comcast.net/news/
inde...qh=itn_toddlers
did you see him on colbert? a much more enjoyable experience.
No. I really wish they had expanded TDS to an hour and kept Colbert around as one of the main features. A half hour of him is sometimes over the top, into the river and unable a need to flip channels to watch a Law & Order rerun.
Saturday afternoon zizzzzzzzzzzz.....
martha's vineyard is very pleasant this time of year. if i could afford it, that's where i'd be.
dirk gently,
Is it the Vinyard or Nantucket where Tweety and Punkinhedd have adjoining cottages?
Even so, I'd love to have a house on an island.
I can't do Awful Waffle, anymore. I taste it for like three whole days.
.
Alright, gotta get cleaned up for a wedding. Ciao
Edwards calls Ann Coulter 'she-devil'
Too much of a gentleman to call her a psychotic bitch.
Which IS what she IS.
unable to control a need
steve simels apologizes.
Dirk,
Taking: Crestor, TriCor, Plavix, Metroprol,and Altace (Just for the heart) I also take Cyclobenzaprine, Percocet, and Topomax for the back and neck pain.
I am a walking pharmaceutical advertisement at the point.
No. I really wish they had expanded TDS to an hour and kept Colbert around as one of the main features. A half hour of him is sometimes over the top,
Exactly how I feel. The eagle, the hockeyteam, the mail-order-sperm donations... all a bit much. I usually TIVO it and watch The Word, if there is one, and the interview.
unable to control a need
What is "The name of "System of a Down"s precursor band?"
(Don't even ask about TDS after Thursday's corporate Sell-out by Little Jon)
Saturday afternoon zizzzzzzzzzzz.....
GWPDA, yclept Roving Historian
That's why God invented caffeine, Auntie...
Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war.
John McCain
billy b - funked up
And Johnny Boy is an expert on being deluded.
The legislation was intended to establish 18 as the minimum age to marry but also allow pregnant teenagers to marry with parental consent, bill sponsor Rep. Will Bond said.
wtf? i mean to say, WTF?
btw, there was a big kerfuffle here a couple years ago when this wacko church was taking 14-16 y.o. girls to alabama to marry church elders because it was legal there.
i think alabama changed their law after that hit the papers.
I wouldn't mind Colbert replacing Katie Couric. A half hour of her is like being made to swallow jello shots flavored with neocon sperm.
GWPDA,
Listening to some "new to me" Stan Rogers this PM. Northwest Passage, Tiny Fish for Japan, and Take It From Day to Day. Nice music.
Deaver dead.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070..._wh/
obit_deaver
I wouldn't mind Colbert replacing Katie Couric. A half hour of her is like being made to swallow jello shots flavored with neocon sperm.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall
A person completely UNqualified for her job.
I am a walking pharmaceutical advertisement at the point.
DWD - Ready to Revolt | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 3:35 pm | #
i often forget to take my atenelol, zocar and tricor because they don't make me feel any different.
Deaver dead.
He was a fucking asshole and will be included on my tour of pissing on certain graves.
This is what Ann Coulter is...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z-mknABEP8s
Richard
An undead Ronald Raygun.
plus, it's a good way to save money on the perscriptions. that zocar is expensive.
i often forget to take my atenelol, zocar and tricor because they don't make me feel any different.
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
You would never have that problem with Perocet: I guarantee it.
driftglass: Deaver dead.
Yeah, he crashed his plane years ago.
Oh, wait.
.
You would never have that problem with Perocet: I guarantee it.
DWD - Ready to Revolt | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 3:40 pm | #
i can imagine. but only vaguely.
He was a fucking asshole and will be included on my tour of pissing on certain graves.
Ah yes.
The "Fuck You" hajj
Dirk,
You want some forty mg Zocor? I was prescribed them and I am allegic. I have a thirty day supply sans one in my desk. . . (I am gonna toss them. I thought I already had but I checked and they are still here)
Anyone looking for beautiful houses overlooking the St. Lawrence off the 100 Islands, and look at "Current Listings.
You will be shocked at the prices.
.
Saturday Night Deaver never made it as a movie.
ql
Haloscan ate my post. No act of resistance is meaningless. You are doing good.
You want some forty mg Zocor? I was prescribed them and I am allegic. I have a thirty day supply sans one in my desk. . . (I am gonna toss them. I thought I already had but I checked and they are still here)
i'd be foolish to say no. my current supply is free samples from my doc. she's good with that for self pay patients.
Deaver dead
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
DWD & Dirk
You may want to discuss things off thread
dirk,
Email me an address at
veritas20001 at comcast dot net and I will send them on gratefully. (I hate throwing valuable things away.)
Does anyone here know enough about these models of hurricanes to know if they factor in the differences in water temperature? If the models are based on former paths of hurricanes they could be astoundingly wrong. Greater water temperature in recent years could presumably cause present hurricanes to take different directions. For example, Hurricane Dean is staying fairly south. But warmer waters more north of it could generate sufficient energy to turn it well north.
1000 Islands.
Deaver dead
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 3:45 pm | #
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agreed...the Nancy is crying croc tears...Gucci croc prolly
Got high on qualudes one time and went for a spin. Had my brother on board and took a tumble. His ankle managed to find the spokes of the wheel.
Took a "Mexican Quaalude" 30 years ago today.
Real, real strong. I was stupidly driving my 1970 Olds Delta 88 when I cut a corner, hit a culvert, and cut the oil pan. The car burst into flames. Torched.
One of the stupidest things I've ever done.
All done, QL.
Deaver dead.
Someone to keep Ronnie and Caspar company down in hell.
Someone to keep Ronnie and Caspar company down in hell.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 3:47 pm | #
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The legislation was intended to establish 18 as the minimum age to marry but also allow pregnant teenagers to marry with parental consent, bill sponsor Rep. Will Bond said.
Let me get this straight...you can't have an abortion without parental permission, but you can get married without it if you're a minor?
1000 Islands.
GWPDA
Thank goodness, I would've hated to misplace 900.
Does anyone here know enough about these models of hurricanes to know if they factor in the differences in water temperature? If the models are based on former paths of hurricanes they could be astoundingly wrong. Greater water temperature in recent years could presumably cause present hurricanes to take different directions. For example, Hurricane Dean is staying fairly south. But warmer waters more north of it could generate sufficient energy to turn it well north.
From what I understand of hurricanes, water temps do not influence travel direction. It all has to do with high and low pressure in the atmosphere.
those scampi are calling to me...i have red thai curry sauce
Deaver dead
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Oh, look out, folks.
We'll have Alan Butler aka anal annie posting our comments about Deaver on youtube.
Like he did with Foulwell.
Coming up on Book TV:
Richard Viguerie "Conservatives Betrayed"
Author: Richard Viguerie
What's that German word from the 1920s?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/
sc...OA8T4ewN6MPLBIF
Life almost undoubtedly began in space, and specifically in the hearts of comets, rather than on Earth, a new study claims.
Chandra Wickramasinghe, an astrobiologist at Cardiff University in the United Kingdom, and his team say their calculations show that it is one trillion trillion times more likely that life started inside a slushy comet than on Earth.
"The comets and the warm watery clay pools in comets are settings in which the organic molecules are transformed into living structures in comets," Wickramasinghe said. "That transformation is more likely in some comet somewhere in the galaxy than in any small pond on the Earth."
The new findings will be detailed in an upcoming issue of the International Journal of Astrobiology.
But while most scientists are willing to concede that fallen comets might have delivered some of the water and organic materials necessary for life to Earth, critics say that Wickramasinghe's proposal that life originated in comets which subsequently crashed on our planet-an idea called panspermia-is speculative and not supported by evidence.
"It looks to me as if their conclusions are constructed from a series of speculations, none of which is based on much evidence. It is a theory built on air, not solidly grounded in scientific facts," said David Morrison, a senior scientist at the NASA Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California, who was not involved in the study.
I will have to do the Aldi thang before too long. Not looking forward to it, seeing as how it's 100.7°F, and frozen pizza bungeed to the back of a Vino in this weather... well, y'know.
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GWPDA,
Link didn't work.
you can't have an abortion without parental permission, but you can get married without it if you're a minor?
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 3:49 pm |
not quite - minors can only get married WITH parental permission if she is pregnant
Does anyone here know enough about these models of hurricanes to know if they factor in the differences in water temperature?
They're factoring in the temperature of the water as well as the other weather systems surrounding it. For example, there's another upper level low off to the northeast that will affect Dean's course depending on Dean's forward speed.
Richard Viguerie "Conservatives Betrayed"
Author: Richard Viguerie
Cripes on a cracker.
No matter what, it's ALL about THEM.
From what I understand of hurricanes, water temps do not influence travel direction. It all has to do with high and low pressure in the atmosphere.
Thanks!
dwd - you have mail, thanks.
think i'll go swimming. have to leave for the show from hell in a couple hours.
It's really hard to catch up if you leave for 15 minutes. Even on a Saturday afternoon.
"Well I don't know that we actually do any good except to remind people that you know, we're fighting a war." --ql
I think that is what is wrong with this war. So very few families are being affected by the immediate outcome of it. And they are too scared to speak up because their loved ones are the ones fighting.
From what I understand of hurricanes, water temps do not influence travel direction. It all has to do with high and low pressure in the atmosphere.
Yup. The water temperatures influence storm intensity, not its direction.
Jeff,
I am getting seriously concerned about your diet! McD's in the am and frozen pizza in the pm does not a healthy boy make. Does Aldi's sell an fruit? Frozen vegs?
i had vim and vigor 2 hrs ago,then i swept nd mopped ..im all tired now
Let's just build a giant electric fence around the RNC and throw in food once a day
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
Nah.
Let 'em eat one another.
Let 'em eat one another.
No flirting!
Life almost undoubtedly began in space, and specifically in the hearts of comets,
That's poetic enough that it could be true.
specifically in the hearts of comets,
lassie?
Life almost undoubtedly began in space, and specifically in the hearts of comets,
When a mommy and daddy comet love each other very much...
McD's in the am and frozen pizza in the pm does not a healthy boy make.
Maybe it's a guy thing, but I'm jealous.
Life almost undoubtedly began in space, and specifically in the hearts of comets,
That's poetic enough that it could be true.
It would be really nice if we could fly to a comet to make some tests to prove or disprove this theory.
Hey all, we found a decent Chinese restaurant which real live Chinese people frequent. I grew up within walking distance NY's Chinatown and had a close friend from Mainland China as a young ql so my standards are fairly high.
When a mommy and daddy comet love each other very much...
Asteroid sex?
Richard Viguerie "Conservatives Betrayed"
Author: Richard Viguerie
by the facts?
Jeff,
I am getting seriously concerned about your diet! McD's in the am and frozen pizza in the pm does not a healthy boy make. Does Aldi's sell an fruit? Frozen vegs?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 3:53 pm | #
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it is hopeless.i brought him a slow cooker...legumes of EVERY variety,rice of every variety...i copied off the net 30 recipes...he is hopeless...well i wont give up...winter is cominng
Life almost undoubtedly began in space, and specifically in the hearts of comets,
When a mommy and daddy comet love each other very much...
Actually, Daddy comet just wanted a little tail and got careless...
Asteroid sex?
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 08.18.07 - 3:56 pm | #
you can get an ointment for that.
It would be really nice if we could fly to a comet to make some tests to prove or disprove this theory.
If only they'd send a probe or something...
Asteroid sex?
I'm against it.
I sense a Jayson Blair-esque scandal in Friedman's future.
When a mommy and daddy comet love each other very much...
The witches say that the Goddess mastrubated and she loved herself so much that the next thing you know there was a big bang and . . . .
OK, the Gardnerians would say there was a daddy comet.
And they call Dr. Dean, 'The Crazy One'?"
Chris Tucker
Everyone who disagrees with them is crazy.
And hateful....isn't that what Bill O'Wanker says?
Hecate: I am getting seriously concerned about your diet! McD's in the am
Eggs! Peppers! Onions! Salsa! Yum!
and frozen pizza in the pm does not a healthy boy make. Does Aldi's sell an fruit? Frozen vegs?
Probably, but it doesn't have the good Chinese gluten in it, like Mama Cozzi's!
.
If only they'd send a probe or something...
NTodd, Mutually Orgasmic |
asteroid sex?
asteroid sex?
Muskrat love.
i brought him a slow cooker...legumes of EVERY variety,rice of every variety.
Yeah, maybe in winter. I love slow-cooked soups in winter. And, I do know how difficult it can be to eat nutririously when you don't have a car to get to the grocery store.
Probably, but it doesn't have the good Chinese gluten in it, like Mama Cozzi's!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 3:58 pm | #
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you made me spilt my coffee,on the katz
"It would be really nice if we could fly to a comet to make some tests to prove or disprove this theory."
shed your container and take a ride on the hale-bopp!
Life almost undoubtedly began in space, and specifically in the hearts of comets,
the million mile high club
Hey all, we found a decent Chinese restaurant which real live Chinese people frequent. I grew up within walking distance NY's Chinatown and had a close friend from Mainland China as a young ql so my standards are fairly high.
Sometime you ought to drive down to Newark and eat at "Saigon, Vietnam".
Vietnamese cuisine is cool. Mixture of Asian and French. This restaurant does it well.
http://local.yahoo.com/details?i...ils?
id=12334213
The dude on BookTV is wearing a really funny wig.
Conservatives are coming out now and saying Bush betrayed conservatism, but it isn't that. Bush showed what conservatism really is, and now these right wing pundits are desperately trying to blame Bush for it all, even though it's the ideology itself.
Let me get this straight...you can't have an abortion without parental permission, but you can get married without it if you're a minor?
In AR parental consent can get you hitched even if you're an infant.
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - A law passed this year allows Arkansans of any age — even infants — to marry if their parents agree, and the governor may have to call a special session to fix the mistake, lawmakers said Friday.
shed your container and take a ride on the hale-bopp!
Ah the Heaven's Gaters: Darwin Lifetime Achievement Award winners.
Vietnamese cuisine is cool. Mixture of Asian and French. This restaurant does it well.
oh, yeah, we have a good one near us. great coffee, too.
They also use past storms as an input in the models.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Tro...rediction_model
In AR parental consent can get you hitched even if you're an infant.
does baby want to get married? ooo, yes she DOES, yes she DOES.
The dude on BookTV is wearing a really funny wig.
I gotta say, most men look far better bald than they do in wigs or hairpieces. The first ex-Mr. Hecate, due to bad genes, lost a lot of his hair in his 40s. He shaved it all off and goes bald. It looks better than when he was trying to comb it over or dye it or whatever. As Shakespeare said, "there's many a man has more hair than wit."
Vietnamese cuisine is cool. Mixture of Asian and French. This restaurant does it well.
oh, yeah, we have a good one near us. great coffee, too.
dirk gently, sociopathetic© | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 4:02 pm | #
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east Tenn..where i am ,has little culinary joy...ive lived in many exotic places ,and this bites...so i will HAVE TO cook..
Conservatives are coming out now and saying Bush betrayed conservatism, but it isn't that. Bush showed what conservatism really is, and now these right wing pundits are desperately trying to blame Bush for it all, even though it's the ideology itself.
He did betray conservatism, in the sense that he outed the movement as anti-humanity.
NTodd, Mutually Orgasmic | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 4:05 pm | #
Yes. Bush was supposed to keep a lid on that, but he's not that clever...
He did betray conservatism, in the sense that he outed the movement as anti-humanity.
As well as outing it as a lie.
Anyone see Rome Season 2 yet?
I gotta say, most men look far better bald than they do in wigs or hairpieces.
Yes, ma'am.
Especially the herpes.
I've only ever seen one person that wears a rug that it isn't obvious that it's a rug.
My FIL. I knew him for years before I found out he wore a herpes. He spends a lot of money on it, tho.
Kim Wilde today
http://
www.crockfordbridgefarm.c...in_shop_400.jpg
That line "New York to east California" still haunts me. Eastern Cali is filled with red necks.
Yes. Bush was supposed to keep a lid on that, but he's not that clever...
Much like Gorby's "kinder face of socialism," Bush was supposed to take that "compassionate conservatism" and leverage it to keep the empire alive, but in the end he killed it.
Well the conservatives loved him, they bought him, he's theirs. The Republicans were in control of the WH, the Congress, the courts, and the media and we all got a chance to see how well that worked out.
But, hey, gays couldn't get married and SCOTUS upheld the criminalization of a rare form of abortion.
Anyone see Rome Season 2 yet?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Saw it on HBO.
oh GOOOOOOOODY
TCM has TRACY AND HEPBURN .........woo hoo fun
I have a feeling he's next:
http://www.comcast.net/news/
nati...cvqh=itn_graham
Conservatives are coming out now and saying Bush betrayed conservatism, but it isn't that. Bush showed what conservatism really is, and now these right wing pundits are desperately trying to blame Bush for it all, even though it's the ideology itself.
Bush was the darling child of conservative thought in 2000. His parents probably knew he was a fucked up dry alcoholic who could do little exept cheerlead and get fucked up on booze and cocaine. But they resorted to mamby pamby circling of the wagons around the chosen. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney will take the hit for this one, while Kristol and Bennett make $$ on Sunday morning talk shows explaining how THEY were so much more informed. The voices of Edward Said, Chomsky and others throttled by a press that is more interested in Hillary's Cleavage than the +1,000,000 dead in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Gilly, once you get out of the major cities in CA, it's like being on Mars.
He did betray conservatism, in the sense that he outed the movement as anti-humanity.
NTodd, Mutually Orgasmic
So true!
JT | 08.18.07 - 4:08 pm | #
It just came out on DVD. I liked the first series, but didn't love it.
I'll probably rent it, but I have to finish Foyle's War, Season 1 first, then I'm renting The Minor Accomplishments of Jackie Woodman with Laura Kightlinger.
ok, i'm gonna go take that swim and then get ready to head for the theater.
btw, lassie?
star with a tail.
nyone see Rome Season 2 yet?
Is it out yet on DVD? I've got it in my Netflix queue.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere | 08.18.07 - 4:09 pm | #
One road trip to Vegas will prove that
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
I know my intestines will rebel, but I have a hankerin' for some frozen dairy product.
.
Well the conservatives loved him, they bought him, he's theirs. The Republicans were in control of the WH, the Congress, the courts, and the media and we all got a chance to see how well that worked out.
I remember wingnuts calling into talk radio right after 1994 saying "if we get the Republicans to control everything, all's gonna be fine". Well, the Republicans did control everything. Wonder how that worked out for the wingnuts?
Vietnamese cuisine is cool. Mixture of Asian and French. This restaurant does it well.
Vietnam is cool. We fucked over a great culture. Hanoi was what, the Paris of the Orient. And Iraq was close to where civilization began? Sense a pattern? Fuck culture. Fuck history. Fuck decency and anyone who gets in the way of Manifest Destiny.
The rightards went from having Dr. Feelgood Reagan as the "face of conservatism" to a nasty, sociopathic failure of a dry drunk.
A dry drunk even more stupid than Reagan was.
Jeffraham, here's an easy suggestion.
Take some chicken, throw in slow cooker. Add a large jar of salsa. Set on low. Leave alone for 6-8 hours. Make pasta, enjoy.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 08.18.07 - 4:12 pm | #
And we're supposed to be the "civilized" ones....
thinkprogress:
Rove: My ‘Worst’ Mistake Was ‘Saying Something Unkind’ To A Colleague
Vietnam is cool. We fucked over a great culture. Hanoi was what, the Paris of the Orient. And Iraq was close to where civilization began? Sense a pattern? Fuck culture. Fuck history. Fuck decency and anyone who gets in the way of Manifest Destiny.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall
Amerika Uber Alles.
Spinoza, but...but...we've got Paris Hilton!
Anyone guessing Rove is gonna join the Fred train ?
Jeffraham, here's an easy suggestion.
Take some chicken, throw in slow cooker. Add a large jar of salsa. Set on low. Leave alone for 6-8 hours. Make pasta, enjoy.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Ragu (yeah, I know) used to have a cooking sauce in a jar with tomatoes. mushrooms, onions, garlic, etc.
I used to do that slow cooker bit with that and pork chops.
Ummmmm..........yummy!
Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Sallyh: Take some chicken, throw in slow cooker. Add a large jar of salsa. Set on low. Leave alone for 6-8 hours. Make pasta, enjoy.
Chicken?!? What am I... made o' money?
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It just came out on DVD. I liked the first series, but didn't love it.
I had the same reaction to the second series. The development of Mark Antony was well done but not that of Augustus. In fact, the humanity that seemed to be there in the boy was gone in the man--and the guy who played him as an adult was to blame.
Anyone guessing Rove is gonna join the Fred train ?
Gilly Gonzylon, Pro Edwards
Didn't Thompson have some sort of cancer a while back?
Because he ain't lookin' too good lately.
Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
t funke | 08.18.07 - 4:15 pm | #
Or the phantom extra step on a flight of stairs. Or lifting something you think is heavy, but is actually light.
Because he ain't lookin' too good lately.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 4:16 pm | #
Republican primary voters are very superficial. They want Tweety's "manly man", and Thompson don't look it.
Because he ain't lookin' too good lately.
Terry C - Wingnuts R WATBs | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 4:16 pm | #
He looks like Zippy the Pinhead, or any R Crumb character, for that matter. He's running. No question.
JT | 08.18.07 - 4:16 pm | #
I'll check out the first 2 discs or so.
Rove is going to be on what? three or four of the Sunday morning talk shows? I don't think I even want CoT to transcribe that for me.
I would like to never hear the name Rove again in my life.
I have a feeling he's next:
You know, he is an asshole. He enabled Nixon through Bush 41 and 43. He is like Spellman and whoever that other assshole catholic was who supported the Vietnam war. He is Elmer Gantry in a Bill Blass suit. Whatever he has done for the poor and the hopeless and the needy has been far outweighed by his signing out to kill the poor and the hopeless and the needy. He is an old Mitt Romney religious fascist, and Lee Atwater of religious jostling, a Father O'Coughlin with purty lips. Fuck him and his misreading of the bible to hell.
Conservatives are coming out now and saying Bush betrayed conservatism, but it isn't that. Bush showed what conservatism really is, and now these right wing pundits are desperately trying to blame Bush for it all, even though it's the ideology itself.
Yup. Bushco provided the purist implementation of the conservative agenda probably since the days of Hoover.
He gave them everything they wanted- tax cuts, war, authoritarian government for the lower classes, anything goes government for the corporatists.
I used to do that slow cooker bit with that and pork chops.
POKE CHOP! POKE CHOP!
[HEY NOW!]
IT'S A GREASY, GREASY!
[HEY NOW!]
WE CAN BEAT THE OTHER TEAM!
[HEY NOW!]
MIGHTY EASY!
He looks like Zippy the Pinhead, or any R Crumb character, for that matter. He's running. No question.
Gilly Gonzylon, Pro Edwards
Maybe it's me, but I don't think he's the picture of health.
Rove is going to be on what? three or four of the Sunday morning talk shows? I don't think I even want CoT to transcribe that for me.
For an administration that hates the press so much, they sure do use it alot.
Rare images show Iraq prisoners pleading innocence
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Rare footage from inside a Baghdad prison camp shows hundreds of inmates packed into wire-mesh tents, protesting their innocence.
"I have been jailed for two years and have never been put before a judge or court!" one prisoner is shown shouting.
The video pictures were given to Reuters Television on Saturday by the office of Sunni Arab Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi, who visited the Rusafa prison compound in eastern Baghdad with his Shi'ite counterpart.
Hashemi told the prisoners that the authorities were working to speed up their cases and he promised better treatment.
The footage showed row upon row of outdoor tents made of wire mesh and covered with white plastic sheeting, each about the size of a basketball court and housing dozens of inmates.
"We are not asking for food or water. Just free us. We have committed no crimes," said one inmate.
Prisoners, some stripped to their waists, pressed up against the mesh walls and shouted their innocence. Some chanted Saddam-era Iraqi nationalist slogans.
Hashemi said: "We will not accept this injustice. It is a shame on all of us. Be patient. All of your cases will be heard."
We need to go office to office on Wall Street and say which part of this sentence don't you understand.
Thompson really isn't looking 100%. Going around the fair in a golf cart? The delay of announcement. I would say he went for a checkup before the 7/4 announced announcement and they found something for which he is now being treated.
I'll probably rent it, but I have to finish Foyle's War, Season 1 first,
mrs spinoza keeps moving Foyle's War down on our queue because she thinks it's a war movie.
You know, he is an asshole. He enabled Nixon through Bush 41 and 43. He is like Spellman and whoever that other assshole catholic was who supported the Vietnam war. He is Elmer Gantry in a Bill Blass suit. Whatever he has done for the poor and the hopeless and the needy has been far outweighed by his signing out to kill the poor and the hopeless and the needy. He is an old Mitt Romney religious fascist, and Lee Atwater of religious jostling, a Father O'Coughlin with purty lips. Fuck him and his misreading of the bible to hell.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall
That's the way I've always felt about him.
And his son promises to be even worse.
I'll check out the first 2 discs or so.
Don't miss the defeat and death of Antony and Cleopatra. Quite moving.
He is like Spellman and whoever that other assshole catholic was who supported the Vietnam war.
Francis Cardinal Spellman.
What a fucking closet case THAT guy was.
We need to go into the rich neighborhoods and ask, 'Are you Democrat or Republican?' And if the rich privileged folks answer, 'I'm Republican.' We need to say, 'Which part of this sentence don't you understand?' 'You're dead.'
He looks like Zippy the Pinhead
That's it!!!!
I saw the see-gar smellin', Aqua Vulva stankin' jack dick on the TV today and he looked exactly like old Zippy.
heh.
We need to go into the rich neighborhoods and ask, 'Are you Democrat or Republican?' And if the rich privileged folks answer, 'I'm Republican.' We need to say, 'Which part of this sentence don't you understand?' 'You're dead.'
Say what now?
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 08.18.07 - 4:21 pm | #
Not a war film at all, but you probably knew that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Fra...rdinal_Spellman
The fact that he'd badmouth Eleanor Roosevelt and Pope John XXIII showed what a major dick he was.
dyke - go away
pfft
We need to say, 'Which part of this sentence don't you understand?' 'You're dead.'
dyke
jack, what's with the "we" shit?
You're not one of us!
And his son promises to be even worse.
Yep.
dyke
40 cent writerman is back.
Say what now?
smalfish,beatnik
I was trying to figure out where that one was going also.
It needs to become clear that most of the rich or even upper middle class in this country did not earn their wealth and if they continue to shit on poor folk there will be mortal consequences.
I made a mistake last night and watched the last 30 minutes of Danny Roane: First Time Director, the feature directing debut of Andy Dick.
I had low expectations going in, but my God, it was awful. It went direct to cable, so that should tell you something.
Comedy Central shows really shitty movies...
heh.
billy b - funked up | 08.18.07 - 4:23 pm | #
http://www.dougsworld.com/zippy/yow.gif
Fuck off, jack.
Not a war film at all, but you probably knew that.
We fight over a lot of films.
We need to go into the rich neighborhoods and ask, 'Are you Democrat or Republican?' And if the rich privileged folks answer, 'I'm Republican.'
Like this guy?
http://thumbsnap.com/v/gAHLCniP.jpg
dyke
Living high off the hog at 0.08 cents a word.
Oh, you say you're upper middle class and you work your ass off? I don't give a shit, you cleared a few superficial hoops and now your compensation far exceeds what you deserve.
Anyone have a universal killfile besides Atrios? Now is the time.
The day will come in this country when killing is entirely motivated by politics and entirely justified. Everyone who makes over 200k a year should be ashamed of themselves. No, you don't deserve it and if you say one word that indicates you have sympathies for Republican philosophies, you'll suffer the consequences.
It needs to become clear that most of the rich or even upper middle class in this country did not earn their wealth and if they continue to shit on poor folk there will be mortal consequences.
While I agree with the consequences part. Mortal is beyond the pale. You need to go away.
Everyone who makes over 200k a year should be ashamed of themselves. No, you don't deserve it and if you say one word that indicates you have sympathies for Republican philosophies, you'll suffer the consequences.
As someone said earlier, if there is a minimum wage, why is there not a maxium wage?
I wanna see a riot where the poor march from the shit to the high side of town and start destroying. We haven't seen a riot like that for a couple hundred years.
heh.
billy b - funked up | 08.18.07 - 4:23 pm | #
http://www.dougsworld.com/zippy/yow.gif
Gilly Gonzylon, Pro Edwards
http://thumbsnap.com/v/vhRwbKSI.gif
veryone who makes over 200k a year should be ashamed of themselves.
Well, I do and I'm not. Please feel free to bite me. You've no idea what I do with my money.
I wanna see a riot where the poor march from the shit to the high side of town and start destroying. We haven't seen a riot like that for a couple hundred years.
dyke
jack, of course, will be watching it from his mommy's basement.
~Sigh~
chidyke,
I didn't realize that was you. I'm sorry that I was rude, but it's possible to make a lot of money and do good with it.
Woo hoo! We get the baby in about an hour!
Mortal is not beyond the pale. The rich are killing the poor everyday in this country. You can't think of examples?
Mortal is not beyond the pale. The rich are killing the poor everyday in this country. You can't think of examples?
I predict a banning in the near future.
Oh, I see. Not chidyke. Never mind. I think I'll go eat my salmon bel mare and drink some of the lovely Vietti 2004 Nebbiolo Perbacco that I bought from SteveLG.
Oh, you say you're upper middle class and you work your ass off? I
don't give a shit, you cleared a few superficial hoops and now your
compensation far exceeds what you deserve.
I think not.
Is that really ChiDyke? It doesn't sound like her or the way she usually expresses herself.
that I bought from SteveLG.
Hecate,
have you two ever met?
Is that really ChiDyke? It doesn't sound like her or the way she usually expresses herself.
Chidyke is much more thoughtful.
Is that really ChiDyke? It doesn't sound like her or the way she usually expresses herself.
mer
It's jack.
mer, no way in hell is that ChiDy.
peeps, it's really kinda self-destructive to copy and paste this idiots comments.
Mortal is not beyond the pale. The rich are killing the poor everyday in this country. You can't think of examples?
Not only can I think of a lot of examples, I can substantiate them. Which is much more than you can do.
"mer, no way in hell is that ChiDy."
--Sallyh
Thanks, that's what I thought with the first comment I read.
ql
Not yet. He heads for Rockville whenever he hears that I'm coming.
Violence and fear are the weapons of the enemy. Not ours.
teah, I think dyke is some else. I have no problem with people making more money. I do have a problem with people thinking the dead Brooke Astor was a fucking saint while in the same breath talking about welfare queens. Brooke Astor sucked so many welfare tits she had enough money left over to massage a few MOMA dicks to put her name on some display? And we have what percentage of children and old people under the poverty line?
Good afternoon, rational humans. How is everyone this lovely day?
I do have a problem with people thinking the dead Brooke Astor was a fucking saint while in the same breath talking about welfare queens.
I liked her hats, but she was not a saint. She married the Astor for his money after being married to some diplomat.
Spinoza, in CA, something like 30%+ of kids live below the poverty line.
Fuck Ahnuld, Bush, and the lot of them.
dreary day at the lake. ambient in the 60's. rainy. lakechicks are not in abundance...
so, what's the deal? this is the same thread from a couple hours ago.
duncan must be enjoying some undisclosed night life...
fokowi, whatever he's doing, I believe it involves crustaceans.
Sallyh,
How is your grand-daughter?
Here. I posted some pretty flowers this morning
dreary day at the lake. ambient in the 60's. rainy. lakechicks are not in abundance...
May I just interject that Erin is the friendliest tropical storm I've ever met?
Hecate,
Beautiful flowers! How is your grandson?
Spinoza, in CA, something like 30%+ of kids live below the poverty line.
Children don't get to vote. Neither do many black men.
Sallyh: Woo hoo! We get the baby in about an hour!
Just like Lens Crafters!
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"mer, no way in hell is that ChiDy."
It's a bitter little shit known as Allen Butler.
I think we should go door to door and ask people buy the world a Coke and keep it company.
gwb:drf
It's 79° and not a cloud in the sky in South Jersey. Beautiful day to match my beautiful disposition.
There is no such thing as an ambient temperature. It is a measurement or it is not.
Monica,
Oh, thank you for asking. He's wonderful. Toddling all around and talking and dancing. Loves being read to. Being a grandma is the best thing that's ever happened to me in a life full of lucky things.
Beautiful day to match my beautiful disposition.
Monica_A: Superdevil | 08.18.07 - 4:46 pm | #
dreary day here, but i have a good disposition as well.
just nobody to dispose of it with.
Hecate,
Glad to hear that being a grandmother agrees with you. Perhaps one day I will be lucky enough to be a grandmother. A long, long, long time down the road.
Hecate, isn't it just the awesomest? In about an hour, we'll get to read and play ball and go in the pool and take photos and chase the cats and make a cake. No wonder they call it grandparenting--it truly is grand.
Monica,
That gorgeous boy of yours is going to be a heartbreaker, no mistake. When the time is right, I'm sure he'll make you a grandma. Ask Sallyh, it's just the best.
Has anyone else seen Watertiger's latest WWJW? Yikes!
I don't think a maximum wage would work unless the cost of living was level in every part of the country. However, I do think the minimum wage should be a lot more than it is.
Monica, she is truly fantastic. She's going to spend the night with Gramma and Grampa.
When the time is right, I'm sure he'll make you a grandma.
I hope so.
from Kos 'comments:'
Bush Two is President (2+ / 0-)
because he is the son of Bush One. Bill Clinton was Bush One and a Half and Hillary Clinton is slated to be Bush Two and a Half.
by hannah on Sat Aug 18, 2007 at 08:32:35 AM PDT
[ Parent ]
Monica, she is truly fantastic. She's going to spend the night with Gramma and Grampa.
Don't pump her too full of sweets, Gramma!
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - A law passed this year allows Arkansans of any age — even infants — to marry if their parents agree, and the governor may have to call a special session to fix the mistake, lawmakers said Friday.
JT
or before jerry lee lewis married a 12 year old...
There is no such thing as an ambient temperature. It is a measurement or it is not.
Ralphie-Myrmidon | 08.18.07 - 4:46 pm | #
i used it as a noun, not an adjective.
but, thanks for ruining the ambience i had going.
Monica, her preferred sweets are cheesecake and ice cream, neither of which we have on hand. She's just as happy with apple slices and goldfish crackers.
The democracyarsenal site is sad. Sad to think of our Democratic reps ignoring all our calls and letters as they listen, haplessly, to the bibble-babble of the "experts" who don't know anything at all.
kucinich is the only one who is right on this issue. and a bunch of others (like the aforementioned gay marriage issue, or national security, or the real ways to confront terrorism)
why oh why do people support the best candidate instead of the person who would make the best president?
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
dead on dirk!!!
Ambience is a pretty word. Fun to say out loud.
Ambience is a pretty word. Fun to say out loud.
mer
what about ambien?
She's just as happy with apple slices and goldfish crackers.
And she eats healthy snacks?! You are so lucky. My son's half-sister likes puddings and cakes.
mer,
I think that a well-graduated income tax, as well as a serious inheritance tax could deal with the problem pretty well. More tax on investments than salary, IMHO, despite what the economists would say. I think it's right to let people keep more of the money that they earn than the money they are paid for investing.
Monica, her mom's good about keeping it reasonable. Animal crackers, goldfish, fruit bits, Cheerios--they all suit Maddy just fine.
"what about ambien?"
--James (Jimmy) Crack Corn
Heard of it, but never partaken, so...
Sad to think of our Democratic reps ignoring all our calls and letters
They don't totally ignore them...
but, thanks for ruining the ambience i had going.
I was not trying to ruin anything. I was trying to be factual. It's either 60 degrees or it's not. If it's not, than it's some other degree. I hope I'm not ruining your lake experience. Have fun, please.
I think I need a nap, folx.
Go pet CurlyCutie if you like.
bbl
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if the english language made any sense, the word lackadaisical would have something to do with a shortage of flowers...
something hecate does not have to worry about.
Remain calm, all is well:
Broad new surveillance powers approved by Congress this month could allow the Bush administration to conduct spy operations that go well beyond wiretapping to include — without court approval — certain types of physical searches of American citizens and the collection of their business records, Democratic Congressional officials and other experts said.
Administration officials acknowledged that they had heard such concerns from Democrats in Congress recently, and that there was a continuing debate over the meaning of the legislative language. But they said the Democrats were simply raising theoretical questions based on a harsh interpretation of the legislation.
They also emphasized that there would be strict rules in place to minimize the extent to which Americans would be caught up in the surveillance.
The dispute illustrates how lawmakers, in a frenetic, end-of-session scramble, passed legislation they may not have fully understood and may have given the administration more surveillance powers than it sought. It also offers a case study in how changing a few words in a complex piece of legislation has the potential to fundamentally alter the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a landmark national security law. Two weeks after the legislation was signed into law, there is still heated debate over how much power Congress gave to the president.
Well, certainly not any powers they will abuse. Not this President. Besides, the Democrats are looking out for us.
Heard of it, but never partaken, so...
mer
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I guess it makes you enjoy the 'ambience' of sleep!!!!
probably a side effect one notices when 'awake' too!!!
Well, certainly not any powers they will abuse. Not this President. Besides, the Democrats are looking out for us.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin
as harry reid so eloquently put it: 'the spy satellite is full of dry powder folks. i want to reassure the american people we are keeping the powder dry. there will be no soggy surprise crashing through your roof. god bless you and god bless america.'
These intertubez iz pretty kuhl. I iz in teh hai seas...somewheres between Kobenhavn and Visby Island, and I iz taling to batsies.
Kuhl stuff.
I hope I'm not ruining your lake experience.
Ralphie-Myrmidon | 08.18.07 - 4:58 pm | #
not possible, ralphie. was just giving you some shit.
it is indeed time for ye olde bike ryde around ye old 'spit.'
have a fun halo and a fun scan.
Unfortunately, I must be going. Having dinner with a few friends and I need to make myself presentable. Be good to each other and smile.
Now they tell us:
These new powers include the collection of business records, physical searches and so-called “trap and trace” operations, analyzing specific calling patterns.
For instance, the legislation would allow the government, under certain circumstances, to demand the business records of an American in Chicago without a warrant if it asserts that the search concerns its surveillance of a person who is in Paris, experts said.
It is possible that some of the changes were the unintended consequences of the rushed legislative process just before this month’s Congressional recess, rather than a purposeful effort by the administration to enhance its ability to spy on Americans.
“We did not cover ourselves in glory,” said one Democratic aide, referring to how the bill was compiled.
No shit there, Sherlock.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/1...pagewanted=2&
hp
Most people using company networks to edit Wikipedia entries dabble in subjects that appear to have little to do with their work, although sometimes they cannot resist a silly dig at the competition.
Last year, someone using a computer at the Washington Post Company changed the name of the owner of a free local paper, The Washington Examiner, from Philip Anschutz to Charles Manson. A person using a computer at CBS updated the page on Wolf Blitzer of CNN to add that his real name was Irving Federman. (It is actually Wolf Blitzer.)
And The New York Times Company is among those whose employees have made, among hundreds of innocuous changes, a handful of questionable edits. A change to the page on President Bush, for instance, repeated the word “jerk” 12 times. And in the entry for Condoleezza Rice, the secretary of state, the word “pianist” was changed to “penis.”
fokowi, I love you like a brother.
"I think that a well-graduated income tax, as well as a serious inheritance tax could deal with the problem pretty well. More tax on investments than salary, IMHO, despite what the economists would say. I think it's right to let people keep more of the money that they earn than the money they are paid for investing."
--Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Very well said. I think that too.
I have some wealthy friends (good people) who will buy Christmas presents for a family of five on a list they are supplied with at Christmas. That is something, but I know their tax rate could be a bit higher, and they could still live the lifestyle they are accustom to. Actually, they could pay a lot more taxes and still be richer than I'll ever dream of.
They also emphasized that there would be strict rules in place to minimize the extent to which Americans would be caught up in the surveillance.
Trust us, we won't cum in your mouth!
But, as long as our hearts are pure:
[A] senior intelligence official who has been involved in the discussions on behalf of the administration said that the legislation was seen solely as a way to speed access to the communications of foreign targets, not to sweep up the communications of Americans by claiming to focus on foreigners.
“I don’t think it’s a fair reading,” the official said. “The intent here was pure: if you’re targeting someone outside the country, the fact that you’re doing the collection inside the country, that shouldn’t matter.”
Well, certainly not any powers they will abuse. Not this President. Besides, the Democrats are looking out for us.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin
Its a good thing at least one of the DFHs understands how things will work.
pretty hideous.
Ha.
RMJ is a paragon of joy and happiness.
When even the NYT is saying it, can't we take it as a given?
Though many Democratic leaders opposed the final version of the legislation, they did not work forcefully to block its passage, largely out of fear that they would be criticized by President Bush and Republican leaders during the August recess as being soft on terrorism.
Yet Bush administration officials have already signaled that, in their view, the president retains his constitutional authority to do whatever it takes to protect the country, regardless of any action Congress takes. At a tense meeting last week with lawyers from a range of private groups active in the wiretapping issue, senior Justice Department officials refused to commit the administration to adhering to the limits laid out in the new legislation and left open the possibility that the president could once again use what they have said in other instances is his constitutional authority to act outside the regulations set by Congress.
"When the President does it, it's legal."--Dick Nixon
I love you like a brother.
Whenever I hear that, I check to see if I still have my wallet and watch.
And no flirting!!!
Broad new surveillance powers approved by Congress this month could allow the Bush administration to conduct spy operations that go well beyond wiretapping
No one will dare to challenge these "necessary anti-terrorism" powers without evidence of their misuse, and no evidence of their misuse will ever be allowed in court.
Damn flory, that is cool.
My husband just put in a wireless router (took much longer and more stress than expected) and now, if I buy myself a notebook, I can still on the back porch and read this blog.
Saturday evening screen porch blogging.
Whenever I hear that, I check to see if I still have my wallet and watch.
I'm just not that cynical, yet.
RJM
What could go wrong?
~Ducks and runs
I can still on the back porch and read this blog.
mer
Yah. I've had teh wireless router for awhile, so I can sit on teh balconey and talk to batsies.
But being able to connect while in teh middle of teh Baltic Sea is just KUHL!!!!
Also teh espensive. But we're not thinking about that just yet.
I can't wait to see all you guys. I hope we end up in the same prison on the same floor. Who wants to be my cellmate?
No one will dare to challenge these "necessary anti-terrorism" powers without evidence of their misuse, and no evidence of their misuse will ever be allowed in court.
Halfdan
Yup.
The DOJ sought the dismissal because, at trial, it could be revealed that the NSA worked with AT&T to wiretap Americans without a warrant, which is a state secret, if indeed such a program existed at all. The government can't say, because that's a state secret.
Airing evidence in the case "would reveal the sources, methods and operational details" of government intelligence activities, argued Gregory Garre, deputy solicitor general in the DOJ.
Appellate Judge Margaret McKeown responded by paraphrasing public comments by U.S. President George W. Bush, whom she reported as saying, "There is no surveillance of domestic phone calls without a warrant."
The Bush comment came up again when AT&T attorney Michael Kellogg, also argued for dismissal on the Wonderland-like grounds that allowing the case to go forward, yet not violate state secrets, would prohibit AT&T from presenting a defense.
"Any sort of program is a state secret," Kellogg said
"Even if the program doesn't exist?" McKeown replied, referencing the president's claim.
"Whether or not it exists is a state secret," Kellogg answered.
now, if i could just get the women in here to love me...
oh well.
Who wants to be my cellmate?
Damn you, mer.
"State secrets" are anti democratic.
Hey folks.
flory,
Weather? Food? Men?
We want all the details.
I can't wait to see all you guys. I hope we end up in the same prison on the same floor. Who wants to be my cellmate?
mer | 08.18.07 - 5:10 pm | #
stats, please, before i answer.
No one will dare to challenge these "necessary anti-terrorism" powers without evidence of their misuse, and no evidence of their misuse will ever be allowed in court.
Halfdan
And if you get around that, you can't ever prove that you have any standing to sue, because the identity of the people being spyed upon is classified.
Catch 22 was only the beginning.
"stats, please, before i answer."
--fokowi
I'm sure I'm old enough to be your mother, so unless you like a Mrs. Robinson, you should pass.
I've been in a jail cell. Kinda like a nextel contract.
The idea that investment income should be taxed less than labor income is sick. Also, the laws make no distinction between gains from selling one's invention or artistic creation and selling shares of a company. That's bad too.
stats, please, before i answer.
What, like how often she puts out?
"Whether or not it exists is a state secret," Kellogg answered.
Joseph Heller would have a field day with these goobs.
one part of the debate coming up about the last bill congress passed regarding wiretapping, is the shit the admin is trying to put thru that grandfathers in all previous misconduct (you know, as if there was any.. duh.) and making the protections retroactive so nobody who has ever fucked with the powers they have can ever be prosecuted.
keep that one in mind as we watch the pathetic debate.
This is sort of a modest proposal.
The President now has the power to spy on, incarcerate, do any damn thing he likes to anyone who, in his opinion, represents a threat to the security of the US. No habeas corpus. No attorney.
All right.
It is reasonably likely that there will be a Democrat in the White House. What if in the opinion of the new President, the Republicans represent a threat to the security of the US? Does that mean that Republicans can be declared a terrorist organization, and any registered Republican can be treated much as Jose Padilla was?
Would it be too much to suggest that the most recent occupants of the White House be first on the list?
Personally, I can think of few who have threatened the security of this country more than George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney.
(Of course, being a namby-pamby liberal, I do not think any President should have such powers, but it is really odd that few, if any, Republicans have imagined that one fine day they might be on the receiving end.)
Pretty impressive
But I fear for the residents of Haiti and the D.R.
Who is "the state" anyhow?
Who is "the state" anyhow?
Bush.
Who is "the state" anyhow?
We are.
Weather? Food? Men?
We want all the details.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Weather -- mid to hi 60s. Cloudy with some rain. Hope that improves.
Food -- Not the Danes expertise. Shipboard food so far (one meal) has been superb. Also -- teh booze is all FREE!!!!
Men -- Ermmm.....Our table for dinner tonite was 4 gay men, my friend Wendy and me. Median age of men I've seen is about 65.......
It is reasonably likely that there will be a Democrat in the White House.
I think that's not a given. Even if there are elections.
I'm sure I'm old enough to be your mother, so unless you like a Mrs. Robinson, you should pass.
mer | 08.18.07 - 5:14 pm |
doubtful. 40'ish here. just cuz my comments are immature and lack cogency, you shouldn't assume i'm younger.
just sayin'...
I can't wait to see all you guys. I hope we end up in the same prison on the same floor. Who wants to be my cellmate?
mer | 08.18.07 - 5:10 pm | #
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hey when we taking our road trip to see the horsey?
It is reasonably likely that there will be a Democrat in the White House.
I think that's not a given. Even if there are elections.
smalfish,beatnik
I perhaps naively believe there will be elections. It seems probable at present that our next president will be a Democrat. It certainly isn't a given.
doubtful. 40'ish here. just cuz my comments are immature and lack cogency, you shouldn't assume i'm younger.
just sayin'...
fokowi at lake cabin
NToddler's older brother?
Men -- Ermmm.....Our table for dinner tonite was 4 gay men, my friend Wendy and me. Median age of men I've seen is about 65.......
flory | 08.18.07 - 5:20 pm | #
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oy....how about the crew????????????????
Flory
Don't you just love technology?
This Sunday, a live 90-minute debate with the Democratic presidential contenders
on a special edition of "This Week With George Stephanopoulos."
The candidates: Senator Joe Biden, D-Del., Senator Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., Senator Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., Former Senator John Edwards, D-N.C., Former Senator Mike Gravel, D-Alaska, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, Senator Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Governor Bill Richardson, D-N.M.
Too bad, George Staphacoccus is asking the questions. (I can't stand the guy)
He is the worst of the bobbleheads, imho!! and that's saying a lot. 100% phoney!!!!!!
but I might check it out tomorrow morning.
yes like in NOW VOYAGER...yes i see too many oldmovies
I guess if you don't have a big penis, that's what you do.
I perhaps naively believe there will be elections. It seems probable at present that our next president will be a Democrat. It certainly isn't a given.
I don't think it's naive. Cancelling elections might cause the populace to get restive. Bad for business.
The true Powers That Be don't like things that are bad for business. If the Bush administration tries anything that hurts business, I think the PTB will take 'em to the woodshed.
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oy....how about the crew????????????????
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst
Cruise director, cruise consultant (and WTF is that job?) and some other officer were all at the welcome party. So-so and all married.
oy....how about the crew????????????????
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst
Cruise director, cruise consultant (and WTF is that job?) and some other officer were all at the welcome party. So-so and all married.
flory | 08.18.07 - 5:26 pm | #
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no i mean like HOT YOUNG ITALIAN WAITERS
I guess if you don't have a big penis, that's what you do.
If you don't have a big one, you live with a smaller on. Or none at all.
I perhaps naively believe there will be elections.
There's no reason for them not to have elections.
They stole 2 of them already, and the media were only too happy to cover for them both times.
I have no doubt that they'll try it again. Electronic machines, intimidation and tampering with the military absentee ballots. The fascists will have to pull out all the stops this time.
Friedman's crazy. Totally crazy. Just like Bush, Cheney, and the Neocons. To think that invading a nation without a reason, just as a warning sign for the others, would actually reduce terrorism...
Those idiots are dangerous. They shouldn't be allowed to spread their madness even further. Better sooner than later, they have to be put into a closed sanatorium.
Don't you just love technology?
ql-was in NY
This is just way more kuhl than should be legal. I'm in the middle of the Baltic Sea....on a damn boat...talking to youse folx.
Welcome to the 21st century.
I got my wireless free from Time Warner--I just asked them to throw it into my package deal.
i have no clue why...never happens in Merka...teh hot young Italians hit on me
yes like in NOW VOYAGER...yes i see too many oldmovies
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst
Hee. Teh boat is Teh Voyager.
no i mean like HOT YOUNG ITALIAN WAITERS
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst
Must be a different cruise line.
sittenpretty, I may have a clue.
just remember the pentagon got hit too.
and, don't think the military didn't want to kick someone's/anyone's ass in retribution as well. it had a lot to do with all the firebreathing back then.
but, wtfdik?
Bush: l'etat, ce moi.
Afternoon, rational people.
Joseph Heller would have a field day with these goobs.
Seraphiel
He already did. It's the same goobs. They never went away.
Hee. Teh boat is Teh Voyager.
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oh that is an omen..keep eyes peeled for some fascination
sittenpretty, I may have a clue.
Ralphie-Myrmidon | 08.18.07 - 5:31 pm | #
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clue me in...i mean some of them 20 years my junior
Bush: l'etat, ce moi.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Apres moi, le deluge?
"Bush: l'etat, ce moi."
Or, even more honestly:
Coup d'etat, c'est moi!
Flory, I hope your weather is lovely and that you find some interesting company to keep. I am teh jealous.
Rmj, I don't remember if I asked you this once, but were you at one time on WLS radio in Chicago as a voice of reason along with Nancy Skinner?
Weather -- mid to hi 60s. Cloudy with some rain. Hope that improves.
Good luck with that.
Food -- Not the Danes expertise.
Danish food is wonderful. It's the cooking that's problematic.
i would call the new eavesdropping laws very close to a secret version of the repealed sedition act of 1917 or 18... whenever it was.
There's no reason for them not to have elections.
They stole 2 of them already, and the media were only too happy to cover for them both times.
I have no doubt that they'll try it again. Electronic machines, intimidation and tampering with the military absentee ballots. The fascists will have to pull out all the stops this time.
Seraphiel
Well put. The only thing that might complicate matters is Yet Another Nine Eleven (YANE). And frankly, that could do more harm than help to the GOP.
There is zero doubt that Osama votes Republican (look at the videotape released shortly before the '04 election; Osama and Bush are each other's best friends. And friends don't let friends get captured or killed in Tora Bora.)
clue me in...i mean some of them 20 years my junior
That's a solution, not a question.
ITS ONLY FAIR that flory peeks at Bushes VAYCAY
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/
0707...qAUwXWc2hPq188F
They caught the guy who did the killings in North Jersey.
Naturally, MSGOP has to TRUMPET that he is "an illegal immigrant."
I am teh jealous.
Sallyh for Hussein, Grandmere
Shall I send you pitchers?
Danish food is wonderful. It's the cooking that's problematic.
Halfdan
You may be on to something. Lotsa fish. It's all fried. Veggies. All canned.
a voice of reason along with Nancy Skinner?
Ralphie-Myrmidon
Boy do I miss Nancy Skinner and Ski Anderson on Sunday afternoons. Three hours of smart, informed liberal talk show hosts.
Nancy announced her candidacy for the Senate, and that was the end of the show.
Pictures from the Baltic? You bet!
fuck. i'm too young for mer, and too old for sittenpretty.
can't win in here.
a VO ditch sounds good about now to ease the pain.
I REALLY NEED SOME COLD WEATHER
"Men -- Ermmm.....Our table for dinner tonite was 4 gay men, my friend Wendy and me. Median age of men I've seen is about 65......."
hmmm...sounds like good odds for middle aged, single men.
better call my travel agent...
ITS ONLY FAIR that flory peeks at Bushes VAYCAY
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst
Jenna's bridesmaids?
"I'm in the middle of the Baltic Sea....on a damn boat...talking to youse folx."
Hehe! Must be a damn big boat, with damn sophisticated satellite connection...
Friedman is a bad person. I would dance on his grave!!!
"There is a mass grave with 11,000 bodies buried North of Baghdad. There are tens of these... reportedly."
Friedman can call Saddam "a bad person" and it's fine. But, we aren't supposed to call him one. Even when he makes cliams he can't support.
Where are you going next, flory?
I hope Honey Bear doesn't have to go to work on Monday. The building that got polluted with deadly mold after 9/11 is not on fire.
I REALLY NEED SOME COLD WEATHER
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst
Chicago is now at 63 F, rainy and a little breezy. You may get your wish sooner than you think.
I REALLY NEED SOME COLD WEATHER
Two words. Just wait.
"Danish food is wonderful."
Ok, if you actually like artificial food coloring. Their sausages look like pop art...
:-/
Jenna's bridesmaids?
flory | 08.18.07 - 5:41 pm
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hahahahahhaha
i thought Bar was holding court,her highness
Pictures from the Baltic? You bet!
smalfish,beatnik
I may have to start a Flikr account. Just the pitchers from Copenhagen are pretty kuhl. And the trip has just begun.
hmmm...sounds like good odds for middle aged, single men.
better call my travel agent...
jdw
Oh noes. U needz to get into our travel group. Teh select.
http://www.comcast.net/entertain.../17/
233041.html
NOT that there's any chance of that happening, but I would NOT want AHnuld to talk at MY funeral.
I REALLY NEED SOME COLD WEATHER
Two words. Just wait.
Ralphie-Myrmidon | 08.18.07 - 5:43 pm | #
2 more words.
come here.
I hope Honey Bear doesn't have to go to work on Monday. The building that got polluted with deadly mold after 9/11 is now on fire.
ql-was in NY
MSGOP lead off a newsbreak with that.
Big news, eh?
Where are you going next, flory?
Echidne
MOM!!!
Tomorrow is Visby Island. Then Talinn....
I REALLY NEED SOME COLD WEATHER
Two words. Just wait.
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hahahaha
i know ...the propane guy called meyesterday...how much do i need to buy?
Haloscan is now _ucking with me. I have to leave for now.
is not=is now
Hey, I finally the remote programmed. (Original remote was broken)
MOM!!!
Tomorrow is Visby Island. Then Talinn....
Are you going to visit grandma in Finland?
I guess if you don't have a big penis, that's what you do.
Rich
That and buy an SUV.
1st winter out of S.Fla
The Danes do great desserts
Are you going to visit grandma in Finland?
Echidne
*sigh*
Mean ol' captain won't turn teh boat.
Next trip.
"Where are you going next, flory?"
--Echidne
I thought you said you were going to be on vacation starting today? Have fun.
Maybe you could throw up a new thread?
You may be on to something. Lotsa fish. It's all fried. Veggies. All canned.
And it's a sin because the whole country is overflowing with fresh fruits and vegetables. Sort of like Portugal in that regard. People eat wonderfully simple food at home and then go to restaurants and eat rubber covered in "sauce."
I hope Honey Bear doesn't have to go to work on Monday. The building that got polluted with deadly mold after 9/11 is now on fire.
Well, the fire ought to kill the mold.
But the water to put out the fire should give it a favorable environment to return.
"1st winter out of S.Fla"
--sittenpretty,
It doesn't get as cold as it use to get. We haven't had snow to speak of in the last three or four years. But, it is chilly, and you will need heat. You also are closer to the mountains.
People eat wonderfully simple food at home and then go to restaurants and eat rubber covered in "sauce."
Halfdan
Yah. Seems to be a pattern. Tho most of the clientele were tourists. So mebbe it's all a plan? Poison the idiot 'mericans?
"Oh noes. U needz to get into our travel group. Teh select."
it must be, if yer in it.
how do i sign up, and since it's teh select, how would i get in?
jdw, get on flory's list. That might help.
how do i sign up, and since it's teh select, how would i get in?
jdw
Be nice to me!....
And now I mus' depart. Tis midnite on the Baltic.
L8trz........
I thought you said you were going to be on vacation starting today? Have fun.
Maybe you could throw up a new thread?
I'm on vacation. Just addicted to the intertubes. I'm going to start packing in a minute or so.
Will check about the thread.
"Be nice to me!...."
no prob.
nighty-night.
It doesn't get as cold as it use to get. We haven't had snow to speak of in the last three or four years. But, it is chilly, and you will need heat. You also are closer to the mountains.
mer | 08.18.07 - 5:52 pm | #
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you have mail
do ya think i have to put 500 gallons in?
Teens Get Warrants, Make Arrests at Camp
FBI Brings in Youths to Learn the Ropes
By Amy Orndorff
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, August 19, 2007; C01
A couple of agents spilled out of the stairwell and crouched below the window of hotel room No. 125 with their guns drawn. When everyone was in place, their leader gave the signal.
"FBI! We have a search warrant!" Russell Carter, 17, of the District bellowed as he pounded on the door. A few seconds later, he twisted the doorknob and his comrades darted into the room. It didn't take long before the crew triumphantly brought out an alleged bank robber in handcuffs.
They might not be FBI agents yet, but the 27 Washington area students participating in a week-long summer camp sponsored by the FBI looked ready. This was the first year for the camp, and if it is deemed a success, it will be expanded to all 56 FBI offices nationwide. ...
Before the drill, the campers were taught how to collect evidence, interview witnesses and set up surveillance around the scene of the crime. They even played a game of hide-and-seek with the SWAT team before working on their arrest techniques.
After an afternoon wrapping the block in police tape, interviewing witnesses and working on surveillance, the campers had one more (less exciting) lesson: how to file an arrest warrant.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...1800751_pf.html
So mebbe it's all a plan? Poison the idiot 'mericans?
It's sort of like a cargo cult approach to cuisine. If it looks like a sauce, then it must be a sauce.
Well, Suck. On. This.
Somebody has been spending a lot of time in front of the tube with the DVD Collector's Edition of Taxi Driver. That Friedman character must think he is a regular Travis Bickle.
If there was such a thing as a war crimes trial over the Iraq War, shouldn't Friedman be in the dock. Julius Streicher was a sick bastard who wrote for a newspaper that helped gin up an illegal and immoral war.
An apologist for war crimes. Hard to listen to this.
"Well, Suck. On. This."
Yup. Serious guy. No doubt about it.
When are we going to take out China? I don't want anyone to think we're fraidy cats.
Can we have a parade? And gobs and gobs of cotton candy?
And can I wear a boater and a white sailor shirt with a big blue ribbon?
Can I, can I, can I?
[Actually, these are verbatim quotes of Bush from one of his recent meetings.]
Equally chilling was Rose's certitude that "...now that the war is over..."
Hindsight being 20/20, it's now impossible for me imagine anyone believing Bush when he said on May 1st that all major combat operations had ceased.
Didn't anyone bother asking when the troops would start coming home if the war was over?
xxx
Well, Atrios has won Armed Liberal's "Moon Unit" award for best attempt to imitate the Moscow Purge Trials.
Part of the problem with today's progressives is that they believe in Eliminationist Politics. Not only must your enemy be defeated in an argument, but he must be destroyed personally. This kind of thinking is making up the mindset that animates today's Democratic Party shock troops.
One of the reasons Giuliani will be President next year is because this kind of hate and anger alienates normal people who vote.
I have yet to recover from fellow citizens calling half their countrymen traitors.
Are we really being asked to proceed as if this never happened?
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