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Good evening.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed |
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OK!
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Thanks.
ms fahrenheit |
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top five!
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
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looks like I got here just in time.
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Thanks Mom!!
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Thank you, Echidne!
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(Bows before the Snake Goddess, leaves dark chocolate on the altar)
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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Thanks Mom!!
You're welcome. Now wipe your feetses.
Echidne |
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Enjoy what?
George Johnston |
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Enjoy our company, George!
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The dancing with the stars pic of Obama and Palin is creepy.
ms fahrenheit |
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mmmm flannel sheets fresh from the dryer
Anon, Ex-Fo-Li-Ate! |
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Enjoy what?
The ribaldry?
Echidne |
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Huzzah?
AndyMN |
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(Bows before the Snake Goddess, leaves dark chocolate on the altar)
Showing absolutely no respect for the altar, runs in, steals chocolate.
ms fahrenheit |
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Mom, Ali has been at the catnip again!
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So, is it quiet these days because all the Atrios-bots are off dutifully registering fake voters to be used in November?
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McRoboslime out!
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Flory, you've got bartenders in 3 terminals who know your drink?
You really fly too much.
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Mom, Ali has been at the catnip again!
Let me put up my feet first. You kids drive me crazy. And who drank the whiskey?
Echidne |
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How's it going Andy? This place seems to soothe the souls of many.
ms fahrenheit |
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WAS NOT!
(sticks out tongue)
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Showing absolutely no respect for the altar, runs in, steals chocolate.
Damn, I was too late! So steals wafer and feeds it to a dog outside a 7-11.
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So, is it quiet these days because all the Atrios-bots are off dutifully registering fake voters to be used in November?
Please, tell us what's keeping you from such a kick-ass frat kegger that you took the time to drop in here.
Or, are you just a parody? That's my guess.
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Tryin' to watch Red Sox-Devil Rays. TBS didn't get its act together till the second inning.
Later, folks.
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We've also been calling the cops on racist losers.
ms fahrenheit |
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You really fly too much.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
No shit.
Bartenders have good memories.
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Flory, they're probably one of the few things that make flying bearable.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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http://www.theonion.com/content/
...ulls_over_obama
The Onion
bill |
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Thankee, Goddess. 
bo |
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You're welcome. Now wipe your feetses.
Echidne
I took off mah shoez at teh door!!
{{You're allas picking on me. You like 4lg best!!}}
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This place seems to soothe the souls of many.
Does and doesn't.
I'm alone w/ Oona Belle tonight. Miss my Emmy who's kickin' in Half Moon Bay tonight, apparently.
I really don't know much about California, apparently. Maybe that's a good thing.
/scared midwesterner
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love oakland and always felt tigard really fills that bill - ErinPDX
  
She shoots ... She scores! Nuthin' but net!
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Sometimes the only way to know if you've said enough .....is to say to much.
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The problem with the Onion these days is that it is hard to parody reality.
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{{You're allas picking on me. You like 4lg best!!}}
*puts on firm snake mother face, opens mouth, extrudes fangs* SSSILENCE!
Echidne |
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Andy, Half Moon Bay is very lovely. It's a pretty sedate place.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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I'm alone w/ Oona Belle tonight.
What is she like? I have such withdrawal symptoms from being dogless.
Echidne |
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ms f
you can be my neighbor anytime
ErinPDX |
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Half Moon Bay is very lovely. It's a pretty sedate place.
Good. Gosh knows Em needs a break, too.
AndyMN |
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bo, thought you'd like that
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I really don't know much about California, apparently. Maybe that's a good thing.
/scared midwesterner
AndyMN
Oh noes.
Half Moon Bay is great. Very laid back kind of place.
Safe. Comfortable.
And very pretty too.
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"It's a pretty sedate place."
Given the news, I would prefer a sedated placed.
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You're welcome. Now wipe your feetses.
Echidne
I took off mah shoez at teh door!!
{{You're allas picking on me. You like 4lg best!!}}
flory
My eyes saw fetuses. A get that would you Deirdre moment ensued
bill |
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You're welcome. Now wipe your feetses.
Looks down sheepishly at mud caked logger boots.
Oops!
Doug |
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Leibniz, reality started parodying itself sometime around 2002.
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http://
tpmelectioncentral.talkin...ng_up_on_ma.php
thank stars for blogs - TPM - robocalls story gaining traction
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Vote yes on Proposition 8.
Marriage is not the same as buttfucking.
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*puts on firm snake mother face, opens mouth, extrudes fangs* SSSILENCE!
Echidne
Yes, ma'am.
{{pouts}}
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Indeed, Half Moon Bay is nice
ErinPDX |
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Echidne, is it okay if I keep my slippers on? They're clean.
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I really don't know much about California, apparently.
Can't help ya there, I don't know much about it either.
Your in your home and with friends here, though. You share your fears and we'll help you bear them.
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Half Moon Bay is very lovely. It's a pretty sedate place.
Not this month. Pumpkin season.
Half Moon Bay retail's equivalent of Xmas...
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Echidne, is it okay if I keep my slippers on? They're clean.
Yes. And pud slipped in anyway so all is for nothing.
Echidne |
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Vote yes on proposition 8
because america has some morality left.
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Echidne,
Typical Black Lab. She can be super hyper, or completely sedate (which she is now, luckily).
She's pretty hyper for a 5 year old, I'd say. She really, really wants to chase the cat, so we have to crate her.
Other than that, she's super sweet. She can be really calming.
AndyMN |
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Echidne, is it okay if I keep my slippers on? They're clean.
My flannel jammy pants are covered in cat fur, should I wait in the lobby?
Anon, Ex-Fo-Li-Ate! |
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Ms F - did you see my responses below?
NTodd, DFO |
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Marriage is not the same as buttfucking.
pud
Gosh, pud. Marriage is not the same of any kind of fucking.
Except maybe for dogshit repukkes like yourself.
flory |
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Not this month. Pumpkin season.
Half Moon Bay retail's equivalent of Xmas...
Santa Squash?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
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damn i love oakland
ErinPDX |
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And tonight's Paxcast...again.
NTodd, DFO |
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"Echidne, is it okay if I keep my slippers on? They're clean.
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Finished pitchforking hay and manure out of the barn a couple hours ago. My boots are soiled, my socks are fetid, and my feet stink. I think I'll walk down the street and knock on another door.
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Anon, we are all covered in cat and dog fur. That never kept anyone out of the bar.
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Vote yes on Proposition 8.
Marriage is not the same as buttfucking.
pud
What would you know about marriage?
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Yes, I too want to know how's it going Andy?
In my CBT group they were talking about anxiety leading to sleep problems.
I told them about the time I couldn't sleep and it was making me crazy. I had a boss who was like one of those crazy bosses you saw in a movie. Up at 5:00 on the treadmill calling me and leaving messages for me. I was working insane hours 6 days a week (although a relative who was a lawyer trying to point out that he had to provide even more billable hours than I did-he just had to beat me in the macho "work yourself into the ground until you burn out" category.
I was telling the sleep specialists what my schedule was like and what I was responsible for. It became clear to him, and then to me, that I was never "home from work" that I was constantly on call. I couldn't even relax in my sleep because I knew that when I woke up there were be more work waiting for me via voicemail and email.
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Thousands rally in Iraq against proposed U.S troop deal
BAGHDAD — Tens of thousands of Iraqis rallied in the streets of Baghdad Saturday against a proposed American-Iraqi deal that would allow U.S. troops to stay in the country for three more years.
Muqtada al Sadr, a widely influential Shiite cleric who called for the demonstration, issued a statement demanding that Iraq's parliament reject the deal.
"These are the Iraqi people in front of you, rejecting this agreement," Sadr's statement said. "The treaty is in your hands, so the destiny and reputation of Iraq also is in your hands ... If (the government) told you that this agreement will give you sovereignty, they are liars."
After seven months of wearying back and forth, negotiators completed a draft deal this week. For it to take effect, however, the proposal must win approval from Iraq's Political Council for National Security, the prime minister's cabinet and parliament.
U.S. officials are desperately hoping to finalize the agreement before Dec. 31, when a United Nations mandate that has allowed American troops to operate in Iraq will expire. If a deal isn't in place by the end of the year, American forces in Iraq could technically become illegal occupiers.
They're already illegal occupiers. sheesh!!
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Typical Black Lab. She can be super hyper, or completely sedate (which she is now, luckily).
She's pretty hyper for a 5 year old, I'd say. She really, really wants to chase the cat, so we have to crate her.
Other than that, she's super sweet. She can be really calming.
She sounds just the thing! Does she fetch? I found the easiest way to deal with the energy was by throwing a ball until Hank refused to bring it back. Then she'd nap for an hour or so.
Echidne |
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dave™©,
Em's staying at a lighthouse/hostel up there tonight. You know which one?
AndyMN |
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puddinhead pud
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Typical Black Lab.
Hey, mine's a chocolate who is four. Beautiful friend.
NTodd
No I didn't, I 'll go check now.
ms fahrenheit |
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My flannel jammy pants are covered in cat fur, should I wait in the lobby? - Anon
Here, catch, use this. [Tosses Anon a roll of wide masking tape.]
bo |
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Marriage is not the same as buttfucking.
Dood. I feel so sorry for you that you can't have a marriage where buttfucking can happen.
Anon, Ex-Fo-Li-Ate! |
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oy vey do you live in Fulton City, NY?
There is a boil water alert...ecoli found in the water system.
ttp://recallnotification.blogspot.com/2008/10/
fulton-city-ny-boil-water-alert.html
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damn i love oakland
ErinPDX
Portland is almost as nice.
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Does she fetch?
Does she ever! That seems to be her thing. Em found a tennis ball at the dog park a few days back, and she won't let it go. I'm doing my best keeping her busy with it.
AndyMN |
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Can we talk some football? How about those Bisamratten?
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Finished pitchforking hay and manure out of the barn a couple hours ago. My boots are soiled, my socks are fetid, and my feet stink. I think I'll walk down the street and knock on another door.
That's OK. Just put some bunny slippers on (from the pile provided by the door).
Echidne |
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Em's staying at a lighthouse/hostel up there tonight. You know which one? - AndyMN
Oooooo, I'd guess that's Pigeon Point. Fricken exquisite.
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What would you know about marriage?
George Johnston
There's a rumour that his great-great-great-great granparents on his mother's side were actually married.
No corroboration though.
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Half Moon Bay is about 45 minutes south of San Francisco along the coast. Great little place to hang out. Some nice restaurants (I recommend a dive called the Flying Fish which serves killer fish and chips and cole slaw you can actually eat - and want to!). Up the road a ways is a little town called Pescadero which has a great goat cheese farm and an old-timey bar/restaurant called Duarte's that's pretty cool.
This is the time of the year to be on the Northern Californian coast - best weather you'll see.
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Em found a tennis ball at the dog park a few days back, and she won't let it go. I'm doing my best keeping her busy with it.
AndyMN
I just had a thought. When I was a kid, tennis balls weren't glowing green. They were all kind of a dull gray.
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PPLH, south of Half Moon Bay
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Oooooo, I'd guess that's Pigeon Point. Fricken exquisite.
Yep...I'm betting that's it.
/looks up checking account balance
AndyMN |
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"Typical Black Lab. She can be super hyper, or completely sedate (which she is now, luckily).
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Pirate, the resident lab, is still hyper at five years of age ... the only thing that slows him down is a couple dozen swims across the Missouri to retrieve ducks ... In the absence of ducks, I throw two or three pound boulders into the River, and he'll dive and retrieve those. Tough on teeth, but he loves it. Calms him down too.
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Em's staying at a lighthouse/hostel up there tonight. You know which one?
Pigeon Point?
dave™© |
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This is the time of the year to be on the Northern Californian coast - best weather you'll see.
oh yeah
there is a magical, peaceful wave of warmth and beauty that washes over you
ErinPDX |
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Hurricane Omar just died
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
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And Mavericks, where the insane surfing is done, is just north of Pescadero's Harbor.
bo |
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Oooooo, I'd guess that's Pigeon Point. Fricken exquisite.
Yep...I'm betting that's it.
/looks up checking account balance
AndyMN
Par-tay at Pigeon Point tonite!!
flory |
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Am I missing the Pumpkin Festival again?
George Johnston |
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Tough on teeth, but he loves it. Calms him down too.
Hank broke her canines on an elephant ball before she learned to move it with her head. Had to take her to a canine dentist.
Echidne |
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She's pretty hyper for a 5 year old,
not for a black lab, they're puppies until about 6.
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Another under-the-radar slime tactic has been the distribution of over 20 million copies of DVDs of "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West." This video is being placed in newspapers and mailboxes around the country by the Clarion Fund, a pro-Bush outfit. Fundies are eating it up.
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/
A relative of mine who is canvassing for Obama in SW Missouri reports that this video showed up in mailboxes all over the region last week. People she is calling and contacting are citing it as a reason they aren't going to vote for Obama.
See, they learned from emails that Obama's a muslim, and then they learned from McCain that Obama isn't like us and has dark secrets (i.e., he's a muslim but won't admit it), and now they have a video that tells them muslims want to take over the
West and impose Sharia law.
All part of the slime machine.
Council on American-Islamic Relations considers it such a big deal they want IRS to revoke the Clarion Fund's tax exempt status because they are campaigning for McCain by distributing this video.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/rel...ion-
video_N.htm
Haven't seen much about this in any media, haven't seen it at all on my teevee.
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I think Half Moon Bay is north from San Francisco.
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We want to stay at the Point Arena lighthouse up north of here...
dave™© |
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Pirate, the resident lab, is still hyper at five years of age ... the only thing that slows him down is a couple dozen swims across the Missouri to retrieve ducks
Hmmm...
/asks Oona if she wants to hang out in the Mississippi, quickly recants offer
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Yes. And pud slipped in anyway so all is for nothing.
When the logic is lax
One thing is clear
When hell's out of dipshits
They all end up here
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So if I buttfucked Pud I'd be gay married to him? Hey Pope Guy, get up, we need a quicky divorce or dispensation or something.
Le Jackel |
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Am I missing the Pumpkin Festival again?
George Johnston
This weekend.
You can still make it for tomorrow.
flory |
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Turtle baby
http://thumbsnap.com/v/IPl1i5gq.jpg
Echidne |
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I'm setting off on a trip down to Santa Barbara tomorrow.
I used to love Santa Barbara because I would go on retreats there. But the group that held the retreats there sold the house and the land. :-(
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I think Half Moon Bay is north from San Francisco.
nope
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NTodd, it is good to have lawyers on board. Even so, it appears the 'correct' town policeman has to be notified. (By correct, I mean Dem.) His brother, the chief, is Republican.
This sort of stuff is silly, while the aggression is not. It seems that on weekends Obama workers are out and visible canvassing, no argumentative visitors. During the week, when they think there are less people......
The police were just here (my house) a few hours ago. I reported signs missing and so did many neighbors. This too, is really nothing, but if I make an incident report, it will have to be in the paper. I'm hoping that may get us some O supporters, out of the fence sitters. Many, many McCain signs went untouched.
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And Mavericks, where the insane surfing is done, is just north of Pescadero's Harbor.
Once a hidden spot known only to the hardcore. No more!
We were up in Half Moon Bay in August. Just in time for the Pescadero Fun Fair! Love those small-town events...
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See, they learned from emails that Obama's a muslim, and then they learned from McCain that Obama isn't like us and has dark secrets (i.e., he's a muslim but won't admit it), and now they have a video that tells them muslims want to take over the West and impose Sharia law.
Anyone stupid and racist enough to believe such obvious bullshit wasn't going to vote for a black man anyway.
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I think Half Moon Bay is north from San Francisco.
die Bisamratte
Only if by north you mean south.
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Or maybe east, north, west and south somewhat.
die Bisamratte |
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I think Half Moon Bay is north from San Francisco.
die Bisamratte
Nope.
South.
flory |
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They ever fix that highway going to Half Moon Bay?
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Haven't seen much about this in any media, haven't seen it at all on my teevee. - Chichimec
Somebody had a blogpost about this a couple of weeks ago. NYT was allowing their paper deliveries to be used as a distribution channel, in some state other than NY.
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Anyone stupid and racist enough to believe such obvious bullshit wasn't going to vote for a black man anyway.
I would.
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I was driving around Tucson today. I saw a bunch of Obama bumper stickers and only a couple McCain ones.
This is in AZ McCain's home state.
Doug |
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I've been to Half Moon Bay. We went there several years ago to avoid hanging out with an annoying customer...
NTodd, DFO |
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Damn. You can't even see the turtle baby in that pic.
Echidne |
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Hank broke her canines on an elephant ball before she learned to move it with her head. Had to take her to a canine dentist.
Was it a border collie? I knew they were smart, but dental school? Wow!
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Nope.
South.
Half Moon Bay is West of San Mateo.
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I saw three McStain/Sarahcudda posters out in the wilds of Indiana today, but that was it. More Obama signs out than those two shitheads.
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I used to love Santa Barbara because I would go on retreats there. But the group that held the retreats there sold the house and the land.
The mother of my best friends used to live in Mendocino. We'd go up for a week every 4th of July and crash at her place. Then we'd "volunteer" to run the first shift at the beer booth on the 4th at the local historical museum she was in charge of. We'd finish up about 3 and then hang out at Dick's, the greatest dive bar in the world, for the rest of the afternoon.
Good times, good times...
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Spocko: sorry, I wandered off into meatspace for a while & just saw your question from below.
Karin: If you sell your car does that count for more than you paid for it, can that be taxed as a capital gain?
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Technically, I believe the answer is yes. But that's like voluntarily mailing in the sales tax you owe for purchases you made out of state. Or paying taxes on your eBay collectible items that you sold for more than you paid for them. No one ever does it.
Of course, with the car you could deduct all the repairs and maintenance, which I assume was needed to keep the value up, so it's probably not really showing a profit.
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Anyone stupid and racist enough to believe such obvious bullshit wasn't going to vote for a black man anyway.
JeffCO
This is a very important point.
The only people who actually believe the racist crap coming out of the McStain campaign -- regardless of how often CNN and Faux News repeat it -- are the true believers.
All its doing otherwise is turning off independents.
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Damn. You can't even see the turtle baby in that pic. Echidne
I assumed it was implied.
Still, better than this polar bear in a snowstorm.
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They ever fix that highway going to Half Moon Bay? - Moe Szyslak
Rebuild at of Highway 1 at Devil's Slide completed.
84 to San Mateo is always going to be a PTA to drive, 'ticularly since HMB has become more of a bedroom community.
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Only if by north you mean south.
SPOCKO SQUAD!
Tonight's episode: "South by Northwest!"
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Dur.
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"Hmmm...
/asks Oona if she wants to hang out in the Mississippi, quickly recants offer
AndyMN"
The Missouri is not that large at Trident. It's a fair-sized river but nothing like downstream in North Dakota ... it's, say the size of the Little Fork River in MN, ... you know that creek.
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Anyone stupid and racist enough to believe such obvious bullshit wasn't going to vote for a black man anyway.
No, but in their mind this is an out, an escuse they can give without seeming racist....in their mind.
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This is in AZ McCain's home state.
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Tucson has always been more liberal than the Phoenix area. First Half Moon Bay then Tucson now someone needs to mention Northampton, MA and I will have hit the trifecta!
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The police were just here (my house) a few hours ago. I reported signs missing and so did many neighbors. This too, is really nothing, but if I make an incident report, it will have to be in the paper. I'm hoping that may get us some O supporters, out of the fence sitters. Many, many McCain signs went untouched.
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This is the time America maintains its calm and dignity. You either are or are not the greatest democracy on Earth. Now prove it, but don't let anyone push you around, which is the whole point of democracy.
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I was in Half Moon Bay just two weekends ago. They have a nice bookstore. They sell lots of art stuff in cute little stores. It looks like main street! But of course it is all for tourists. The rest of the town shop across the highway at the big ol' mall.
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Half Moon Bay is West of San Mateo.
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Kinda southwest of San Mateo. Due west of Redwood City.
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I got a B- in geography. That's pretty good.
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*lurks*
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What is this about the "real vagina"?
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84 to San Mateo is always going to be a PTA to drive, 'ticularly since HMB has become more of a bedroom community.
Belive me, when we were up there, we were thinking about it!
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All its doing otherwise is turning off independents.
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Billmon has another take on this.
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I was confused until I got a job as a door stop.
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Half Moon Bay is West of San Mateo. - Doug
And East of Tokyo.
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SPOCKO SQUAD!
In Color!
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Still, better than this polar bear in a snowstorm.
I clicked on that! ohno
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Half Moon Bay is West of San Mateo. - Doug
And East of Tokyo.
bo
But can you see it from Sarah Palin's window?
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See, they learned from emails that Obama's a muslim, and then they learned from McCain that Obama isn't like us and has dark secrets (i.e., he's a muslim but won't admit it), and now they have a video that tells them muslims want to take over the West and impose Sharia law.
(shakes head in disbelief)
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I got a B- in geography. That's pretty good.
die Bisamratte | 10.18.08 - 9:20 pm | #
You had geography? How old are you?
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What is this about the "real vagina"?
Apparently it's in the area around a half moon and east, west, south and north somewhat.
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i rarely leave the house, but had to take a short trip around town today. sign count:
27 O
8 mcstunty
i don't count the houses with 2 mcstunty signs as 2, only as 1.
for some reason, mcstunty voters like to plant two signs.
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I was in Half Moon Bay just two weekends ago. They have a nice bookstore.
I'm pretty sure we were in that bookstore (actually, we counted three).
The rest of the town shop across the highway at the big ol' mall.
Yeah, Mendocino's like that. Everyone has to shop in Fort Bragg.
BTW, as I mentioned - next time you're in HMB, check out the Flying Fish Grill. It's the weird looking shack across from Rite Aid...
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Of course you could always take one of the roads that go right over the mountains. It won't save you any time, though the drive through the redwoods is pretty. The one I know takes you almost right to the Pescadero beach.
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SPOCKO SQUAD!
In Color!
A Quinn Martin Production...
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Go Rays!!!!
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But can you see it from Sarah Palin's window?
George Johnston
You have to go over into her neighbor's backyard.
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No, but in their mind this is an out, an escuse they can give without seeming racist....in their mind.
Yes, that's the dissonance they need to resolve: I am a good person, rejecting a black person is racism and bad, thus XYZ is the real reason I'm not voting for him. The Ayers/Wright/blahblahblah stuff will stick with some persuadables, but I don't think enough if we keep contacting them to cut through the bullshit (instead of, you know, just calling them stupid).
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two of my favoritest words: Josh Beckett
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... you know that creek.
Sure.
I'm guessing that bring Oona to Downtown St. Paul ain't such a swell idea. Maybe I'll bring her to Minnehaha Creek, or some-such watering hole.
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i rarely leave the house, but had to take a short trip around town today. sign count:
On my walk around the 32nd District in Wa State....no McCain signs, and the several Obama signs I planted are gone.
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See, they learned from emails that Obama's a muslim,
If they believe everything that comes in email I know of a wonderful banking opportunity by way of Nigeria for them.
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Anyone stupid and racist enough to believe such obvious bullshit wasn't going to vote for a black man anyway.
JeffCO
My first thought too, and generally I agree, but a person I know and trust is telling me from the front lines of canvassing in a swing state that she thinks it's having a negative effect on Obama's support, however slight.
Distribution of this video is obviously designed to help McCain, and should be considered as campaign activity. Should be publicized too, that's the way to deal with it. There should be consequences for this kind of slimy crap.
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the guy across the street from us was told to take his McCain't signs down. Have no idea as of yet why. Don't know if it had anything to do with me saying loud enough for the neighbors across the street to hear, "I am getting the biggest fucking Obama sign--".
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I live in a 4 unit apt building. Two of the residents are two grown men (different apartments) who are freaking out over one of the local possum that likes to hang around.
Can I have smarter neighbors?
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for some reason, mcstunty voters like to plant two signs.
jdw
They also vote twice.
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What is this about the "real vagina"?
It was in the Austin Powers movie.
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I saw a sign in a yard today, a dark blue background like the ususal McCain signs, except this one had "Sarah" in big letters and "Palin/Mcain in smaller letters beneath. It didn't look homemade.
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Billmon has another take on this.
No doubt correct, so I suggest we all start practicing something I heard quite a lot after the 2000 election: "He lost! Get over it!"
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SPOCKO SQUAD!
In Color!
(A Quinn Martin Production)
Starring SPOCKO as "Lt. Dan Spocko"!
With DUNCAN BLACK as "Police Commissioner Atrios"!
Guest Star STEVE SIMELS as "Det. Nancy Drew!"
Special Guest Star RES IPSA LOQUITER as "Judith"!
Tonight's Episode: "Supertrain of Death!"
dave™© |
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The dancing with the stars pic of Obama and Palin is creepy.
ms fahrenheit
I think if Senator Obama came (what she considered) too close to her, she would either run screaming in the other direction or hold up a crucifix.
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They also vote twice.
Ali, son
BTW, whatever became of Ann Coulter's voter fraud charges?
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".no McCain signs, and the several Obama signs I planted are gone."
that sucks. them goopers just looove free speech.
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Two of the residents are two grown men (different apartments) who are freaking out over one of the local possum that likes to hang around.
Well, is it a possum chick? That I could totally get in to.
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Ntodd
Do you have enough lawyers and poll watchers up there?
I'm concerned, although the county party chair told me it'd be fine. This after he told me we didn't have many. Grrrrrr. It was lovely to have dinner with the county Dem committee chair........(who is pro-life.)
[deep sigh]
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No, but in their mind this is an out, an escuse they can give without seeming racist....in their mind.
But it really doesn't matter in the end. They weren't going to vote for Obama. They would have found some reason to vote for McCain -- or Barr -- no matter what.
I really don't think there will be any material impact on the race. But it will be interesting to see what the post-election analyses have to say.
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i rarely leave the house, but had to take a short trip around town today. sign count:
On my walk around the 32nd District in Wa State....no McCain signs, and the several Obama signs I planted are gone.
Anon, Ex-Fo-Li-Ate! | 10.18.08 - 9:24 pm
On my way back from an outing in the southern suburbs, saw a normal sized yard sign, blue background, top half had 'Sarah', the bottom half had, in much smaller font 'Palin/John McCain'.
Exactly who's running for president here?
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That woman who called Obama an Arab is not exactly a good advertisement for joining the McCain team.
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SPOCKO SQUAD!
In Color!
JeffCO
In High Fidelity!
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I think if Senator Obama came (what she considered) too close to her, she would either run screaming in the other direction or hold up a crucifix.
Or go "It's twue. It's twue!"
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"This is the time of the year to be on the Northern Californian coast - best weather you'll see."
dave™©
Song that mentions the California coast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...h?
v=cXJTWBHqoJU
Pictures don't really have anything to do with the video.
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So Cheney's Plan for a New American Century didn't last as long as Hitler's Thousand Year Reich?
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In Color!
JeffCO
Not Vivid Black and White?
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"What is this about the "real vagina"?"
don't download it. it's riddled with spywear.
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Buckeye, my neighbors are professional mariachi musicians.
They're actually very nice, and they play their music well.
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My first thought too, and generally I agree, but a person I know and trust is telling me from the front lines of canvassing in a swing state that she thinks it's having a negative effect on Obama's support, however slight.
I heard a woman on NicePoliteRepublican's Talk of the Nation show the other day who was channeling every made up talking point about Obama as the host sat and said nothing. When she loudly proclaimed that Obama was not even a US citizen and the Dems are covering it up he finally cut her off and blandly stated that a number of things she said "were not factually accurate."
I was annoyed till it occurred to me the longer she talked the more thought disordered she sounded to any non-delusional person. Kinda like Bachmann.
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I'm waiting for the SPOCKO SQUAD! Game by Milton Bradley...
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Re: signs...
The only Republican signs I've seen in St. Paul are next to the governor's mansion and on Norm Coleman's lawn.
What a freak town I live in.
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So Cheney's Plan for a New American Century didn't last as long as Hitler's Thousand Year Reich?
So go the way of all dictators.
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Oh, Supertrain of Death, that is a good one. The man in the white trench coat did it.
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Sweet...Jerry Reed just came on Pandora!
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American Hawk | 10.18.08 - 8:57 pm
Oh gee, where's this jerkoff been?
I was hoping he'd enlisted.
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Tonight's Episode: "Supertrain of Death!" dave™©
[knocks over 4 trashcans]
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Tonight's Episode: "Supertrain of Death!"
dave™©
You forgot: NToddler, homeless witness behind Dairy Queen.
No doubt correct, so I suggest we all start practicing something I heard quite a lot after the 2000 election: "He lost! Get over it!"
JeffCO
Except that Repukkke claims of vote fraud will get a shitload more play in the media than Dem claims ever hoped to get.
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You forgot: NToddler, homeless witness behind Dairy Queen.
We ran long...
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Oh gee, where's this jerkoff been?
I was hoping he'd enlisted.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008
In got in a whole new load of wank material.
Important things first, you know.
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[knocks over 4 trashcans]
There's something on the side of your mouth... no, the other side...
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That woman who called Obama an Arab is not exactly a good advertisement for joining the McCain team.
Karin Hussein
I loved the Thursday SNL's little dig at her.
Keith ran the clip the other night.
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I primed the balcony fencing and the one wall that suffered water damage. Go me.
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Do you have enough lawyers and poll watchers up there?
We're still figuring out what we've got in our pool of volunteers. I don't think we're going to have a problem here--2006 was a sea change in local politics, and both Obama and Shaheen are polling very well. But we're working on getting everybody scheduled for their jobs, starting with Weds training.
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Sweet...Jerry Reed just came on Pandora!
Someone give Pandora a tissue...
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So the trolls know when the time comes late Nov 4 and they can't take it any more--
Don't put it under your chin; put it in your mouth and shoot up.
Can't miss.
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I was discussing with another victim of the sign heist, the 'redneck' voters. We both agree that while they are waiting for a major screw-up on Obama's part to rationalize not voting for him, they also are listening, and the bail-out woke some up. They sound like they might vote for Obama, while telling their buds at the bar that they voted for McCain.
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Duh! I had Pescadero and Princeton-By-The-Sea confused. You'd have a tough time sailing a boat into Pescadero.
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Except that Repukkke claims of vote fraud will get a shitload more play in the media than Dem claims ever hoped to get. flory
Oh of course, which is why every Dem allowed anywhere near any media outlet needs to calmly repeat "He lost. Get over it" at every opportunity with only the merest hint of a smile.
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The cognitive dissonance that I really marvel at is the one that makes someone call Obama a Muslim who is pro-abortion and gay marriage.
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I primed the balcony fencing and the one wall that suffered water damage. Go me.
Echidne
Did u wipe ur feetses before u came back in teh house?
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NTodd,
Are you running some of the GOTV canvasses, schooling them and such, or are you going with?
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Marriage is not the same as buttfucking.
He knows nothing about #1 and talks a little bit too much about #2.
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Results of TIPP's Election 2008 Tracking Poll
Beginning October 13th, TIPP began publishing the results of its 2008 Presidential race trackign poll.
The table below shows results for a two-way race between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama among likely voters.
John McCan vs. Barack Obama
Release Date McCain Obama Undecided Spread
October 18 39.8% 47.2% 13.0% +7.3 Obama
October 17 40.6% 45.9% 13.5% +5.3 Obama
October 16 41.6% 45.2% 13.2% +3.6 Obama
October 15 41.9% 45.2% 12.9% +3.3 Obama
October 14 41.9% 44.8% 13.3% +3.0 Obama
October 13 42.7% 44.8% 12.5% +2.1 Obama
In 2004, TIPP, a Division of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, came within 3/10 of 1% point of President Bush's actual margin of victory, thus winning the title of "Nation's Most Accurate Pollster." We''re planning to do it again this time around, so why not come along for the ride!
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Don't put it under your chin; put it in your mouth and shoot up.
Can't miss.
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You may be overestimating the size of their brains...
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Personally, I think Cheney has slipped into his alien life form, ignorance, old age, senility, Dude no long exists on planet Earth, or sleep.
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We ran long...
We should all be so fortunate.
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SPOCKO SQUAD!
In Color!
Brought to you by General Mills, makers of Sugar Frosted Spockos.
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He knows nothing about #1 and talks a little bit too much about #2.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008
the doll never tells him how good he is, and she won't wear his ring.
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They sound like they might vote for Obama, while telling their buds at the bar that they voted for McCain.
That's why I think the reverse-Bradley effect is real.
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He knows nothing about #1 and talks a little bit too much about #2.
I *thought* he sounded like the poop troll!
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I had Pescadero and Princeton-By-The-Sea confused. You'd have a tough time sailing a boat into Pescadero.
You're gonna need another hull...
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That's why I think the reverse-Bradley effect is real.
Rich Lowry has his heart set on a reverse-cowgirl effect.
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You may be overestimating the size of their brains...
The bad new is pud shot himself in the head.
The good new is he can still go on with his usual life.
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There's something on the side of your mouth... no, the other side...
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Which other side of my mouth?
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I should be doing chores but I am enjoying the company of Atriots too much.
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They sound like they might vote for Obama, while telling their buds at the bar that they voted for McCain.
Yes, some folks have been musing about a "reverse Bradley effect" which I think is quite likely...
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"They sound like they might vote for Obama, while telling their buds at the bar that they voted for McCain."
reverse-bradley. i'm tellin ya, it's very real.
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From below. I'm not making this up.
So, just so you know. The new talking points on Obama on RW radio.
Bill Ayers ghost wrote Obamba's book. Proof? They used the same phrase, "Behind enemy lines" and Obama hadn't ever published anything good before.
Also, Ayer's books uses sailing terms. SO DOES OBAMA'S!
Obama isn't an American Citizen because he was brought to Hawaii as an infant.
(The MSM is covering this up! This is the reason that Arnold can't get elected) The host said, "We are just trying to get the truth out to you."
The call in guest said, "Why don't they subpoena them! We only have 17 days left!"
Joe the Plumber is being picked on and we know more about Joe the Plumber than we do about Obama.
(Barbara Simp son things that it is terrible what they are doing to poor Joe. She would like to see him sue someone. I hope she will keep that in mind when her colleagues out me and call me a liar, thief and Commie to the entire bay area for the crime of letting the advertisers know what they are paying for.)
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I had Pescadero and Princeton-By-The-Sea confused. You'd have a tough time sailing a boat into Pescadero.
You'd think sailing into Pinky Tuscadero would be easy, but as it turns out, no.
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In 2004, TIPP, a Division of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, came within 3/10 of 1% point of President Bush's actual margin of victory, thus winning the title of "Nation's Most Accurate Pollster." We''re planning to do it again this time around, so why not come along for the ride!
Good news
That would be fantastic. Since the poll shows Obama with a widening lead every day.
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Speaking of Pescadero, Duarte's Tavern!
And the goat farm!
Oh, for the days when there was a slim chance in hell I could retire...
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Did u wipe ur feetses before u came back in teh house?
Took my shoes off first. But I did lean over to inspect my work once too low and now I have a dark blue jacket with white stripes in the front.
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Department of Fisheries and Oceans!
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Buckeye, my neighbors are professional mariachi musicians.
They're actually very nice, and they play their music well.
Oh, if my father was there, he would spend all his time hanging out with your neighbors. He loves him some mariachi. I used to hear a lot of it growing up-still got a bunch of old LPs.
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There's something on the side of your mouth... no, the other side...
Drebbin driving the car from the back seat was the best.
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They sound like they might vote for Obama, while telling their buds at the bar that they voted for McCain.
That's why I think the reverse-Bradley effect is real.
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I ran into one such woman at a GOTV meeting last night. She refused to take a yard sign and said she didn't want her neighbors to know who she was voting for.
Might be a privacy issue or she may have had alot of Mccain/Palin neighbors
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Are you running some of the GOTV canvasses, schooling them and such, or are you going with?
Not entirely clear right now. I'm going to work out distribution of duties with our other DFO on Weds (she's the de facto FO now since our other one has withdrawn to focus just on Dartmouth). I am definitely on tap for doing some of the training, but not sure what's going to happen at our staging area and whatnot--she might focus on Lisbon while I do Littleton. Our area is sort of neglected, so we're figuring all this shit out with the Shaheen FO on our own...
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half moon bay is one of the coolest places on the planet...
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You Mr. NTodd were a worthy foe, but now we must consign you to the deep.
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now I have a dark blue jacket with white stripes in the front.
Echidne
Hand painted fabric!!
Very haute couture.
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Sorry...took a stroganoff break.
I still like it when Mom cooks for me.
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Hi! Today was a great day to vote here in WA.
Have I mentioned lately how much I love Vote-By-Mail?
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jdw owes me a drinkie.
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Brought to you by General Mills, makers of Sugar Frosted Spockos.
Richard
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Sugar Frosted Spockos!
Now with Copper!
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she didn't want her neighbors to know who she was voting for.
That's sad.
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Sorry...took a stroganoff break.
Well, it's understandable what with the lovely wife out of town and all.
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Now with Copper!
Free jagged-metal "Krusty-O" in every box!
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Mmmm...copper....
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Half Moon Bay is beautiful, but I like San Pedro and Salinas. They still have a bit of a blue collar vibe.
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The new talking points on Obama on RW radio.
Nothing new.
Same old lies, racism and fear.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008 |
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Andy, it's good to be coddled a bit by Mom 
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Sorry...took a stroganoff break.
I still like it when Mom cooks for me.
AndyMN
Wait....
You're not sharing with the class?
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Mail in two box tops and 50 cents, and you get a set of "Spocko Squad" brass knuckles.
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"jdw owes me a drinkie."
here's drinkie! don't dribble!
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On my walk around the 32nd District in Wa State....no McCain signs, and the several Obama signs I planted are gone.
Anon, Ex-Fo-Li-Ate!
in this blood red area, no O signs, even the National Enquirer that bad mouth Boosh are bought off the racks within a day. Not by inquiring minds but by repugs, wanting to hide them.
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I have relatives in Salinas. It's more of a regular small town than Monterey or Carmel, which are fun to go to. Beautiful area.
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Mail in two box tops and 50 cents, and you get a set of "Spocko Squad" brass knuckles.
Spocko Squad needs a cool black bartender that Spocko confides in.
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Michelle Obama is coming to our town this week.
yeah, baby!
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Sorry...took a stroganoff break.
I still like it when Mom cooks for me.
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Storganoff dripping off of NTodd chin kinda looks like come or as I prefer, love beads.
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I also was at a book store. The stacks of other books showed signs of being taken, but the ones about Sarah Palin were topped off with obviously no takers. (unless the store staff had just restocked those and none of the other books)
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You're not sharing with the class?
It was made with pork, since I don't eat beef!!
/pulls bowl away from flory
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Terry C.
The one that I hadn't heard before was Ayer's ghost writing Obama's books.
But the one that I think would get the most traction was when this guy called up and said how he was a small business man and Obama was putting a glass ceiling on ambition. Nobody will work hard to make more than 250,000. "What the point the government will take it all anyway."
He actually started tickling the "Republicans are good for winners, Democrats are for losers" line pretty hard. It would be just the kind of think the republican business people that I know would bring up.
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I saw a sign in a yard today, a dark blue background like the ususal McCain signs, except this one had "Sarah" in big letters and "Palin/Mcain in smaller letters beneath. It didn't look homemade.
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I saw that. It looks 'professional' but not 'offical'.
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There are very few Obama signs here. No McCain signs at all. But this is the Sodom so there's no need for signs
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Yeah, well that's why I got editors, err idioteraters, err NTodd.
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Mail in two box tops and 50 cents, and you get a set of "Spocko Squad" brass knuckles.
Spocko Squad needs a cool black bartender that Spocko confides in.
Anon, Ex-Fo-Li-Ate!
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Are you offering to play the part? I think Meander might want it.
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Fortified with copper is a Star Trek joke based on Spock's blood.
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Who called sheets?

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Nobody will work hard to make more than 250,000.
Very few people who make that kind of money do it through hard work alone. They've got something else going for them: daddy's money, the right-wing machine, whatever.
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Are you offering to play the part? I think Meander might want it.
Seeing I never be mistaken for a cool guy or a black guy, I think someone else should get it.
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It's not alarming by any means, but the consensus seems to be that McCain's national level of support has ticked up very slightly in the past week. According to Nate Silver's analysis at Five-thirty-eight, this is kind of puzzling, because it doesn't correlate with candidate favorability ratings, and it also doesn't track with the numbers from swing states either. But it seems McCain's national topline number is up slightly, Obama's down slightly.
I haven't yet seen a good explanation for why McCain's numbers would be going up (even slightly) after the last debate. They should be going down, if the debate had any effect. His debate performance was terrible, and I thought we'd see his numbers going down after that. But they haven't, they're up slightly. What gives?
Latest I saw was Nate Silver's explanation that it has to do with renewed Republican enthusiasm, so that right-wingers who said they weren't going to vote in previous weeks are now saying they are, so they're being picked up in the likely voter models.
Millions of slimy robocalls and 28 million free "Obsession" videos might also have had an effect. Doubt that it will be effective in the long run, but that massive amount of slime surely has some statistical effect, even if it's slight.
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(Le Jackel drunkenly makes up with NTodd. I'm sorry, Dude, what was I thinking! Now get yer paw off of my ass.)
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Nobody will work hard to make more than 250,000.
That is so very silly. First, billions of people work incredibly hard to make very little money in this world, incredibly hard. Second, you can certainly earn more than 250,000 even if your marginal tax rate goes up with your earnings. Third, as people earn more they don't necessarily want to work even harder to get even more money. Sometimes they want to do other stuff with that money.
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cat and mouse...
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/
Mo...L.bE8Ui7KhpaP0E
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There are hardly any political signs in my neighborhood. Obama bumper stickers are on every other car, however. That's not really an exaggeration.
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I think I'm running two GOTV canvasses out of one area, unless I go back and forth. Schooling them, being there for sending them out, and collecting and entering data, when they come back.
I am also going to stop our voting until they set up the voting machines correctly. Dickheads.
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"Spocko Squad needs a cool black bartender that Spocko confides in."
Are you offering to play the part? I think Meander might want it.
We're basing it in SF - you could play the black cable car gripman that knows how to ring the bell!
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There are hardly any political signs in my neighborhood. Obama bumper stickers are on every other car, however. That's not really an exaggeration.
The numerous parking lots at Schmicro-Bloft have cars filled with Obama stickers, mine included.
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help. my Dell Inspiron is telling me that I have no more space on C. wtf?
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god, i can't write a coherent sentence tonight.
Anon, Ex-Fo-Li-Ate! |
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"Looo-ssst-hiiigh-waaay"
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My understanding was that the Obama campaign had a problem getting yard signs, they had a slight number and then ran out, had them on back order but might not get them in time for the election. My local Democratic Hq had a few of them last week, but they ran out again. Meanwhile, in my neighborhood I count 4 McCain/Palin signs, no Obama/Biden. But every other car seems to have an Obama sticker.
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Anon, I understood you just fine.
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Interestingly
I think I've finally come around to the 'signs are over' mentality. I think this election was the transition period. The older vote, who vote, will not be around forever. The younger voters are coming out in stronger numbers and are tech savvy, therefore signs will be old school and really over.
I am aware that getting the younger voter out is always the goal, but this time it seems to be different, and it will be locals who will have to work to keep them active.
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There are very few Obama signs here. No McCain signs at all. But this is the Sodom so there's no need for signs.
Nor over yonder here in Arlington. But cross the line into Cambridge, and BAM!, O City, baby...
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All its doing otherwise is turning off independents.
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Billmon has another take on this.
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Many thanks! I've been searching the Great Orange Satan for weeks hoping for a billmon post. No go.
No offense to the terrific bloggers always on board here, but billmon is for me the very best there is.
I just about went into mourning when he put up that Porky Pig "Thththat's All, Folks!" Looney Tunes poster way back when.
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Heh:
When Al Franken produced a 1992 Saturday Night Live "Presidential Bash," he fired off a letter to a man he'd been skewering for years -- Richard Nixon -- in the hope that one of his favorite political punching bags would bestow a personal appearance on the show.
Nixon's office declined, and Franken gleefully framed the reply as a trophy of sorts in his long comic battle against what he considers the forces of political darkness.
The rejection letter took its rightful place in an odd, ironic tribute to liberals' favorite Vietnam-era villain -- a bathroom in Franken's elegant Minneapolis townhome filled with Nixon memorabilia.
THIS is the man I want as my Senator!
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god, i can't write a coherent sentence tonight.
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Yeah, I can't either. I'm hoping there is enough there to understand and everyone is in a loving mood.
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No offense to the terrific bloggers always on board here, but billmon is for me the very best there is.
I shall now make stroganoff out of David Derbes.
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No offense to the terrific bloggers always on board here, but billmon is for me the very best there is.
no argument from me. He's incredibly good, and it's wonderful to have him back in form.
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My mom is on the Housing Authority in your fine town, and she told me how Mike Dukakis came and visited their meeting on Wednesday night. she was excited, but he told the meeting that despite the fact that he and Kitty had been supporters of BHO from before the primaries, they have tried to stay as low profile as possible.
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help. my Dell Inspiron is telling me that I have no more space on C. wtf?
die Bisamratte | 10.18.08 - 9:53 pm | #
Yep I lost my id in the great flood of ought eight. Probably should start by deleting all your deleted files in that trash bin thingy. Otherwise, lots of viruses going around this abouts. Get AVG Free generally. Do a thorough scan.
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I shall now make stroganoff out of David Derbes.
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Go 'chidne, Go 'chidne
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They grow artichokes in Half Moon Bay.
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Marshall nails it:
...if you figure in the robocalls and recent ads, McCain's entire campaign is now comprised of innuendo and lies meant to tie Obama to various stereotypes of African-Americans and of course Arab terrorism. His purported foreign policy experience hasn't been part of the campaign's message in weeks. Just black, black, black, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist.
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They grow artichokes in Half Moon Bay.
I grew up in the horseradish capital of Finland. Weird roots.
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No offense to the terrific bloggers always on board here, but billmon is for me the very best there is.
I shall now make stroganoff out of David Derbes.
Echidne
O Echidne, I think you're terrific. Same goes for Athenae, Ruth, Diane, NTodd, Sinf, and so many more I cannot list you all.
But most people have a favorite, and mine's billmon.
(blows kisses and sends Valrhona and Vosges chocolates to teh Snake Goddess...)
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Brrrr!
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I have been gone all day so I will ask again....no word on the Powell endorsement?
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Some friend you are, ms. fahrenheit...
I doan wanna be Stroganoff...
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Watsonville used it be, IIRC, "The Artichoke Capitol of the World."
Complete with the "Giant Artichoke" drive-in, which featured a giant artichoke (natch!) on the roof and french-fried artichoke hearts that were to die for!
They also had an outlet for awhile in San Jose, of all places...
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(blows kisses and sends Valrhona and Vosges chocolates to teh Snake Goddess...)
This may be the first time that the main course picked the dessert for the meal. 
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When I was in Doylestown, PA a couple weeks back, they had a number of Obama signs in the campaign office.
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Yeah, I saw that the Duke was about. Totally forgot about it, but I've been preoccupied with this silly "rounders" game...
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No offense to the terrific bloggers always on board here, but billmon is for me the very best there is.
Gee, I always thought billmon had passed on. News to me the bugger is still kicking. Linky?
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No offense to the terrific bloggers always on board here, but billmon is for me the very best there is.
Billmon's certainly one of a kind. I'd just wish he'd set up Whisky Bar again.
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...if you figure in the robocalls and recent ads, McCain's entire campaign is now comprised of innuendo and lies meant to tie Obama to various stereotypes of African-Americans and of course Arab terrorism. His purported foreign policy experience hasn't been part of the campaign's message in weeks. Just black, black, black, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist.
If I ran the Obama campaign, I'd buy two hours of airtime, and show "Blazing Saddles" with live MST3K riffing by Barack and Joe.
Followed by Barack talking to the American voters, asking them "Do you want to be like Rock Ridge...you know, morons....or do you want to make history?"
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This may be the first time that the main course picked the dessert for the meal.
Echidne

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I doan wanna be Stroganoff...
David Derbes, ochen' pissed
You'll be fine. Everyone knows Echidne is kind.
I am, of course, you're friend, but always take every chance I can get to laugh.
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thx, ms. f.
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Horseradish and catsup, yum.
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Everyone knows Echidne is kind.
I try to be. The other Echidne is not to be thought about.
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Damn...don't make me eat more stroganoff.
This is the most I've eaten in two days...two whole helpings.
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Nobody will work hard to make more than 250,000.
The top marginal rate has been Lots lower and lots higher, and we seem to have done OK. Gee, you'd think the fabulous '50s would have been the death of capitalism as we know it...
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Time for some Stompin' Tom Connors...
The Consumer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?
v=jl75Ou3hNTY
Oh yes we are the people running in the race
Buying up the bargains in the ol' marketplace
Another sale on something, we'll buy it while it's hot
Save alot of money spending money we don't got
We Save alot of money spending money we don't got
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So if you make 250K you'd balk at making more because the amount over 250 would be taxed at 36% rather than %33?
you're a dumbshit
Actually, I wish Obama had made that more clear.
Using the word dumbshit would be a bonus, but I don't think he would.
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Damn...don't make me eat more stroganoff.
This is the most I've eaten in two days...two whole helpings.
AndyMN
I find one helping of stroganoff a day is usually sufficient...
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I am also going to stop our voting until they set up the voting machines correctly. Dickheads.
Silly. That will never work.
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Buish babbling on about "democratic capitalism" today. Does that mean we all get $700 billion?
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Err... could we change the menu, please?
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And speaking of "nailing it," take it away, Ian Welsh!
...the problem is that the West's elites, and especially America's, are boobs. They couldn't run a hot dog stand, let alone the world's economy. And I think, in their hearts, they know it, even if they'd never admit it. It's why they never allow any real accountability, because if one of them is guilty, they know almost all of them are guilty. They all sat aside complacently while the world economy went into multiple bubbles. They almost all sat aside while Iraq was planned and executed. They all watched Afghanistan go up in flames. Most of them signed on for the bailout even as they were saying "I have no idea how this could work, but we should do it anyway".
The American aristocracy is a good description of them. They're entitled. More and more they are the children of previous members of the class. They're rich, they're inbred and they're an incestuous bunch, with everyone's hands in everyone else's pants (somehow I've never been able to convince a think tank to do a chart of the top 1,000 influentials in DC listing all romantic and family ties. Wonder why?)
In short, they're rich, have a deep sense of entitlement, think they're the best and fear they aren't. They take care of each other first "2 trillion to bail out your bank, dahhhling? Of course, but we mustn't give the peons health care" but they make sure the peasants keep their place.
There are no problems the US has that can be fixed with the current ruling class still in place. They will keep mortgaging the future to save the past: their rule is that the future cannot happen faster than they can buy it up, because if it did they know they couldn't naturally compete for it, because they are, actually, incompetent.
Until there is a change in who runs America it is going to be very very hard to fix anything in America. Great nations always rot from within, and you always read contemporaries who knew exactly what to do and wonder 'why didn't they listen?' They didn't listen because opening up the real franchise, the real power centers to newcomers was a much greater threat to them than their nation going into steep decline. Or so they thought. Fortunately for America, there are no barbarians on the border. But I think Americans will find that they don't need to import barbarians anyway.
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So if you make 250K you'd balk at making more because the amount over 250 would be taxed at 36% rather than %33?
Gosh, that 750 dollars extra in tax will discourage me from making thousands more...
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I haven't yet seen a good explanation for why McCain's numbers would be going up (even slightly) after the last debate. They should be going down, if the debate had any effect. His debate performance was terrible, and I thought we'd see his numbers going down after that. But they haven't, they're up slightly. What gives?
There are still some undecideds, and anyone so out of it that they couldn't figure out the differences between these 2 candidates and decide who they prefer till now , are dumb enough that when they do break, the chances are more than even that they'll end up breaking for McCain. Fivethirtyeight also had a post explaining this much better than me. It's a statistical thing.
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Buish babbling on about "democratic capitalism" today. Does that mean we all get $700 billion?
Only if you vote.
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NTodd, ask E how she pronounces Pendleton
just realized for me/husb/etc the D is silent
maybe i'm sarah palin
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Okay, the campaign isn't about signs. The locals threw hissy fits. Many ordered their own signs which are still filtering in. The campaign sent out flyers that opened up into window signs hoping to appease some. At this point campaign signs are trickling in at the same time the signs ordered by locals are. Someone here, I think maybe doncjesuis, suggested ebay and that is where the best luck was had and the soonest delivery also.
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If you didn't expect the race to tighten in the last 2 weeks, you haven't been paying attention to many elections...
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OBAMA: "I WAS BORN ON KRYPTON"
http://www.comicbookresources.co...rticle&
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just realized for me/husb/etc the D is silent
Yup, she does, too.
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On c-span/BookTV now - After Words: James Bamford, author of "The Shadow Factory: The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 to the Eavesdropping on America " interviewed by Jonathan Landay
Upcoming Schedule
Sunday, October 19, at 6:00 PM
Sunday, October 19, at 9:00 PM
Monday, October 20, at 12:00 AM
In his latest book, James Bamford takes a behind-the-scenes look at the National Security Agency and its domestic surveillance program following the terrorist attacks on 9/11. Mr. Bamford, a former producer with ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings, has written about the NSA in two previous books - "The Puzzle Palace" (1982) and "Body of Secrets" (2001). He discusses his latest book with Jonathan Landay, national security and intelligence correspondent for McClatchy. Mr. Landay previously worked for Knight Ridder and the Christian Science Monitor.
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Okay, the campaign isn't about signs. The locals threw hissy fits. Many ordered their own signs which are still filtering in.
Our Shaheen person had to steal some from Plymouth...
NTodd, DFO |
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Only if you vote.
My absentee ballot should be here in a couple of days. I'll express it down, just to makes sure.
Where do I get my $700 billion?
Moe Szyslak |
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Silly. That will never work.
NTodd, DFO |
I really feel silly that I didn't do it during the primary.
I just have to figure out the correct timing.
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Let's talk some football.
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I'm back. Got Creed blasting!
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Err... could we change the menu, please?
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Yeah more east european meatball thingy's, plus, wait for it, Slivovitz!!
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Frank Rich: McCain Just Can't Quit W
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just realized for me/husb/etc the D is silent
That's interesting, I've always heard people pronounce the D. But I'm from WA, so what do I know? 
Hi ErinPDX and NTodd.
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Who amongst us has?
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LSU is going down.
die Bisamratte |
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Slivovitz: Pear brandy from Croatia.
Wicked headache, and I speak from some experience in Dubrovnik and Split.
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Fuck Texas.
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Okay, the campaign isn't about signs. The locals threw hissy fits. Many ordered their own signs which are still filtering in. The campaign sent out flyers that opened up into window signs hoping to appease some. At this point campaign signs are trickling in at the same time the signs ordered by locals are. Someone here, I think maybe doncjesuis, suggested ebay and that is where the best luck was had and the soonest delivery also.
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Whe I was a kid, my Dad would drive over the Carter signs with his old pick-up. What a gas!
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Fuck Texas.
die Bisamratte | 10.18.08 - 10:18 pm | #
Concur. You know what they say about Texas...
Brian |
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You, you say that you've got it figured out
That life's about, you do what you want to.
You, you walk the tightrope of unbelief
Can't you see? His way is reality.
We all know it's better to give that receive
Then why don't we give God the glory?
Don't hide it, don't fight it, just beleive.
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"I haven't yet seen a good explanation for why McCain's numbers would be going up (even slightly) after the last debate. "
mcstunty is picking up goopers who were theretofor unimpressed with his less then full-fledged wingnuttiness.
he went off the deep end, and now they are energized enuf to vote for him.
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Oh lay off Texas. We have some fine Texans among our luminaries and one, Bill Moyers, has been graced with the title Anti-Christ . (Of course this was before Barack made the scene and these winger wackos have to keep updating who the AC is every couple of years or so.)
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So.......Penn State beat Michigan.
107,282 seat stadium. They drink all the coffee at the local convenience/gas stations on the way.
My trivia for the day.
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Obama ads during baseball.
Me likee!
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Well yer brain cells is all gonna die any which. Some of them want to die a noble death. Seriously, is it just me or do most of you fucks not know about a certain enzyme that stops soft tissue damage due to imbibing alcohol, or some such?
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IIRC, Nate said that you'd see the effect of the third debate around Sunday.
Of course we shouldn't take stuff for granted, but I will be astonished beyond existence if McCain wins this.
Even if bin Laden were to set off a nuke in a major US city, I don't see how the average person gets past the economic disaster, McCain's age and lack of judgment, and Palin.
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The free sex trade shaved Guatemalan boytoy 13 bathroom having drug addict must be put down. Kill their king.
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Oh lay off Texas. We have some fine Texans among our luminaries.
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All right all right. You have a point. You've got the Bushes and Earl Campbell. God bless Texas!
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I grew up during the days when Michigan was the best football team in the WORLD.
Feh.
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In football it takes westen Pa. boys to win.
die Bisamratte |
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Johnny Cash's version of "Wabash Cannonball" just came on.
*sigh*
AndyMN |
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I've seen a lot of places
I've been around the world
I've seen some pretty faces
Been with some beautiful girls
But after all I've witnessed one thing still amazes me
Just like a miracle you have to see to believe
'Cause God blessed Texas with His own hand
Brought down angels from the promised land
Gave 'em a place where they could dance
If you wanna see heaven brother here's your chance
I've been sent to spread the message
God blessed Texas
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Johnny Cash's version of "Wabash Cannonball" just came on.
One of the stations in Chicago has been playing a remixed version of "The Rock Island Line". Dude, it truly rocks.
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You don't deserve a puppy.
catalexis, CMDR Re-ed Camp #6 |
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Massive Attack - Protection just came on my radio.
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I will say it again. Fuck Texas.
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"I grew up during the days when Michigan was the best football team in the WORLD."
dem days is looong gone. tell rich 'welcome to the big 10'.
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dem days is looong gone. tell rich 'welcome to the big 10'.
jdw
We used to be a contendah.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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I will say it again. Fuck Texas.
Congrats...you got attention.
AndyMN |
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Tonight is a big nothingburger.
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Here's a shout out to my friend Andy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h?
v=pX4eU6ld4U8
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Voters in Polk and Eldred townships may face the unusual prospect of having a deceased candidate on the ballot on Election Day.
The death of state Sen. James Rhoades on Saturday leaves the seat in uncharted territory, little more than two weeks before the election.
Rhoades was facing two challengers in the upcoming election, Democrat P.J. Symons and independent Dennis Baylor.
Symons’ chief of staff Jeremy Mullen said the Democrat’s campaign is being suspended until after Rhoades’ funeral.
Senate Republican officials met Saturday to discuss the matter and made no decision on what to do about Rhoades’ candidacy, said spokesman Erik Arneson.
Senate GOP officials believe a state court’s permission would be needed if they were to seek to replace Rhoades on the ballot with another candidate.
Republicans hold a 29-21 majority over Democrats in the Senate.
“We were counting on him to be re-elected. I don’t know what happens now,” Gleason said. “He’ll be missed by everyone in the Republican Party.”
The 29th district covers Schuylkill County and parts of Berks, Northampton, Lehigh and Carbon counties.
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Massive Attack - Protection just came on my radio.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants

Stand in front of you/Take the Force of the blow/Protection
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I worked my ass off today. To the point where my back hurts. Finally finished at around 9 EDT, so Aud and I went to a little coffee shop to grab a snip to eat, and I just had the bestest pumpkin curry soup I've ever had.
It was seriously good, but rich.
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i'd rather live in san luis obispo 3 blocks from the fb stadium and lose to sdsu than to live here 3 blocks from the stadium and lose to cal poly.
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Evenin'.
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Homerun - Varitek
Sox 3 Rays 2
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Varitek?
Varitek?
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NTodd
If you're still here......I sat through my daughter's soccer game today listening to a husband and wife try to recruit my daughter's boyfriend into the military.
While I sat there with my "Give Peace A Chance" button, trying desperately to keep my mouth shut, I learned that I am very prejudiced against the military. I need to work on that, and I did walk away for a rather long time.
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Tek! Mwah! I forgive you for being a wingnut!
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Like the Democrats, Michigan will rise again.
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OSU kind of knocked Michigan off the map. MSU and Mich. St., not so good.
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I will say it again. Fuck Texas.
die Bisamratte | 10.18.08 - 10:27 pm | #
You talk alot of shit for someone that's not a regular.
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jdw,
Not that you'd care, but I hired Bo Schembechler to do some public speaking for my former company. He was the most gracious gentleman, seriously.
I received raises on that coattail for years, because I'd scored the coup of a lifetime, according to my former boss, who was a Michigan alum and a huge Bo fan.
Unfortunately, he wasn't the last boss I ended up with there.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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Shit man, I hate it when Dudes show up for work half-plastered and barely functioning. But I've seen drunk men show up for work and make calls and do shit that it takes a fearless man to do.
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bestest pumpkin curry soup
Sounds delicious, and sorry about the football game, sort of.
ms fahrenheit |
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{{{geor3ge!!!}}}
How's a life in music?
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"We used to be a contendah."
you will be again. patience.
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i'd rather live in san luis obispo 3 blocks from the fb stadium and lose to sdsu than to live here 3 blocks from the stadium and lose to cal poly.
fokowi beta mode
Me too.
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Like the Democrats, Michigan will rise again.
ErinPDX | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 10:31 pm
Texas A&M on the other hand...
Tech 43
A&M 25
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I learned that I am very prejudiced against the military. I need to work on that, and I did walk away for a rather long time.
ms fahrenheit
Blind worship of the military has gone waaaay too far in this country. We are in serious danger of becoming a completely militarist society.
I welcome skepticism.
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Tech 43
A&M 25
Shoelimpy suicide watch...STAT!
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ms f
it's one thing to be anti-military and another to be anti-sending-young-adults-to-needless-death
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Like the Democrats, Michigan will rise again.
ErinPDX
I miss you, doll.
Worked for Obama this morning, and I turned around and went back to HQ to get a new sign once I realized one of mine was stolen. They were giving stolen signs for free, but I decided to leave them a donation. When I worked there this morning, I can report that they were busy as hell.
As I said earlier, I feel like a Who down in Whoville. You may try to steal my Christmas, but you can't steal my hope.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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You talk alot of shit for someone that's not a regular.
Brian
I'm a regular. I spend a shitload of time in Texas.
So I'll say it.
FUCK TEXAS.
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Titanic survivor sells items to pay nursing home
LONDON (AP) — When 2-month-old Millvina Dean arrived in New York with her mother and brother after surviving the Titanic sinking, city residents gave them a suitcase full of donated clothing to help rebuild their life.
Now, more than 96 years later, that gift is helping the world's last Titanic survivor live out her old age.
Dean sold the small wicker suitcase, along with other mementos of the doomed ocean liner, at auction Saturday to help pay her nursing home fees.
The sale raised $53,906 — ten times the amount she had hoped to make. The suitcase alone sold for $18,650.
"It is a great amount of money. I am sure she will be very happy when we tell her the news," auctioneer Andrew Aldridge said after the sale.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/wor...or_N.htm?
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{{{Sallyh}}}
Crazy busy. Been putting up a fence and unpacking, which is about as musical as my day's been.
How've you been holding up, cher?
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Shoelimpy suicide watch...STAT!
AndyMN | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 10:34 pm
(and takes all of his sockpuppets like Brian, annie, incog, God Fearing, poop with it)
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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NTodd
If you're still here......I sat through my daughter's soccer game today listening to a husband and wife try to recruit my daughter's boyfriend into the military.
While I sat there with my "Give Peace A Chance" button, trying desperately to keep my mouth shut, I learned that I am very prejudiced against the military. I need to work on that, and I did walk away for a rather long time.
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Well did you keep it shut?
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flory is a regular, and more than that, Bri-baby, flory is a GEM.
So fuck you, you wind-douchebag.
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Love the onion.
http://www.theonion.com/content/
...erica_to_survey
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Evening all. My lovely wife said that on the way home today she heard someone on NPR say that today's Obama rally in Missouri was the largest in history. One hundred thousand or so. It's probably already been discussed here, but my goodness I found it reassuring.
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"So I'll say it.
FUCK TEXAS."

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Glenn, Obama had 100,000 in St. Louis, and 75,000 in Kansas City.
Pretty freakin' impressive.
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"It is a great amount of money. I am sure she will be very happy when we tell her the news," auctioneer Andrew Aldridge said after the sale.
Good for her.
What about all the 96 YO who don't have valuable collectibles to sell to pay for their nursing home care?
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Glenn!!!
Good to see you here!
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One hundred thousand or so. It's probably already been discussed here, but my goodness I found it reassuring.
That and fivethirtyeight.com made my day.
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Big Papi sure picked a good time to get hot again.
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North East, Pa. is in northwest Pa.
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dropdropdropdrop... BH, Papi! 4-2 OTT, 6th. We gots ourselves a ballgame...
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Evening, all
Hope everyone is good. 175,000 people in Missouri saw Obama today? That is amazing for two speeches. Must be some sort of record.
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"Evening all. My lovely wife said that on the way home today she heard someone on NPR say that today's Obama rally in Missouri was the largest in history."
i also saw he got 75k in kansas city this evening.
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it's one thing to be anti-military and another to be anti-sending-young-adults-to-needless-death
As the woman was saying, "I've been in the military for 34 years," and the man was spouting off about choppers, planes, FEMA, and the Pentagon, I was saying repeatedly to another soccer mom, "And yet your penis is still small." I wasn't proud of myself. It continued until I heard, "Freedom isn't free," and then I had to get up and walk away.
I can't tell you how upset I was to hear two parents trying to convince a young man to join.
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One hundred thousand or so.
Lookee the picture a few posts down.
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"It is a great amount of money. I am sure she will be very happy when we tell her the news," auctioneer Andrew Aldridge said after the sale
Just don't put it in the stock market
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Thanks, Vicki. And you're right, Michigan will rise again once we convince the auto companies to start building their new electric cars there.
Man, 175,000 in one day. There's something in the air I haven't felt since 1960. (Damn, what an old fart.)
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As I said earlier, I feel like a Who down in Whoville. You may try to steal my Christmas, but you can't steal my hope.
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Heh. We never stole them. My Dad just drove over them.
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things and stuff about colin powell
a. just cuz he's making his endorsement for pres on mtp shouldn't make it anymore of a big than it is.
2. or isn't.
D. i can't remember the rest.
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Glenn, thought of you/your son when i met a guy whose daughter works with wealthy kentucky thoroughbread owners
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Hope everyone is good. 175,000 people in Missouri saw Obama today? That is amazing for two speeches. Must be some sort of record.
DWD-S☮S
I have my doubts that all 175,000 actually saw him.
My guess is about 25,000 saw him.
The rest can say they were there.
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it's one thing to be anti-military and another to be anti-sending-young-adults-to-needless-death
As the woman was saying, "I've been in the military for 34 years," and the man was spouting off about choppers, planes, FEMA, and the Pentagon, I was saying repeatedly to another soccer mom, "And yet your penis is still small." I wasn't proud of myself. It continued until I heard, "Freedom isn't free," and then I had to get up and walk away.
I can't tell you how upset I was to hear two parents trying to convince a young man to join.
ms fahrenheit | 10.18.08 - 10:39 pm | #
Probably do the punk some good. The members of the Armed Forces are the most respected community in the nation.
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Me too.
you haven't been to both places so how could you know?
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geor3ge, stressed but okay.
the ex emailed a photo of Maddy to her mom today. I think he did it to torment her.
he's been tormenting us a lot with Maddy lately. I think he's being fucking stupid.
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Heh. We never stole them. My Dad just drove over them.
Brian
So, being a fucking asshole is a family trait. Figures.
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Thousands of people die every year serving their country. Not just soldiers. Police, firefighters, security guards, store clerks,school teachers, utility repairmen, janitors, mail carriers, medical flight attendants, news reporters, paper carriers, these all have met their deaths doing their part to make our society function. These people are worth not one tear, not one honor, not one mention of gratitude and recognition less than does someone in those other uniforms. A society cannot exist on nothing but soldiers and politicians and entertainers.
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Obama isn't an American Citizen because he was brought to Hawaii as an infant.
In a reed basket?
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Sallyh, hope things are well my dear.
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I have my doubts that all 175,000 actually saw him.
My guess is about 25,000 saw him.
The rest can say they were there.
the folks in the back were asking about the cheesemakers
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Photo of 100,000 Obama crowd.
Moe Szyslak |
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As I said earlier, I feel like a Who down in Whoville. You may try to steal my Christmas, but you can't steal my hope.
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I love this. I do think volunteering for the campaign heals some of the wounds living in a country with wingnuts cause.
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Probably do the punk some good. The members of the Armed Forces are the most respected community in the nation.
Brian
Respected is one thing.
Blind worship another.
I fear we're tilting too far towards worship.
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I'm not anti military. I think it is an honorable career choice.
however, I am strongly anti Bush's military, which is so unbelievably broken, I rip down recruiting materials in all the rooms I teach in. I don't let recruiters have any of my class time, either.
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A society cannot exist on nothing but soldiers and politicians and entertainers.
It's been tried. Last one lasted 12 years.
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I have my doubts that all 175,000 actually saw him.
My guess is about 25,000 saw him.
The rest can say they were there.
flory
When my wife and son went to see him in downtown Vicki-ville that was their complaint as well. They said that Obama needed to be on a higher stage so that more people could see him. (And there were only about 16,000 at that venue - chicken feed comparatively speaking)
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So I guess Elias made the shift complete. New sock puppets, same old behavior.
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The members of the Armed Forces are the most respected community in the nation.
Brian
No surprise that a gutless wonder like you wouldn't enlist.
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I'm tired and my sentence structure is all messed up.
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Probably do the punk some good. The members of the Armed Forces are the most respected community in the nation.
how'd the tutoring go today, Allen?
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McCain's campaign is basically Hillary's primary campaign.
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Northeast, Pa. Look it up on a map. I love how Pa. names it's towns.
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So.......Penn State beat Michigan.
No. They fucking CRUSHED the hated Wolveerninnies.
NTodd, DFO |
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Glenn, I miss Maddy and I'm very worried for her.
Mlle's case is going to the DA next week. I hope they are willing to prosecute.
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Probably do the punk some good. The members of the Armed Forces are the most respected community in the nation.
Brian
Then again, you likely never joined up.
Good for thee but not for me!
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Sallyh, former SIL has custody?

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So.......Penn State beat Michigan.
Ya think those Fire Lloyd folks are having buyers remorse?
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NTodd
If you're still here......I sat through my daughter's soccer game today listening to a husband and wife try to recruit my daughter's boyfriend into the military.
While I sat there with my "Give Peace A Chance" button, trying desperately to keep my mouth shut, I learned that I am very prejudiced against the military. I need to work on that, and I did walk away for a rather long time.
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Odd. You bitch here on a blog but didn't have the courage to speak your peace in person.
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Supreme Commander! How are you?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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Sallyh, former SIL has custody?
geor3ge | 10.18.08 - 10:44 pm | #
We're all praying!
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ErinPDX,
Thanks for the thought. The oldest son is back to being an attorney for the most part, though with Keeneland running its fall meet, he's been helping Carl Nafsger's stable with six young horses. They are excited about a couple of 2-year-olds.
And the amazing thing, Paul, my son, hangs out with Carl a lot but spends most of his time with back-siders -- mostly Guatemalan grooms and hot-walkers. From what he's told me, not a single one of the owners of various horses is expressing any concern about the economy. They've lost some money but what the hell; they have lots to lose.
It's a bizarre business.
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Photo of 100,000 Obama crowd.
You know the significance of that bldg in the middle...?
NTodd, DFO |
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I fear we're tilting too far towards worship...
Oh Yeah. I still get that silly "the US Army GAVE you your right to free speech" e-mail once in a while.
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Prediction
After days of speculation and build up by the media on the possibility of Colin Powell supporting Barack Obama, Powell will announce that he is supporting McCain and the media will proceed to claim this hurts Obama while helping McCain.
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Sallyh, former SIL has custody?
geor3ge | 10.18.08 - 10:44 pm | #
We're all praying!
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Praying she doesn't I meant.
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"They fucking CRUSHED the hated Wolveerninnies."
yes, but first penn state let mi think they could win, just to fuck with their haids. that made it especially schweet.
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Supreme Commander! How are you?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I had a great day today. Hung with friends and gamed all afternoon. It was a lot of fun to just pretend to blow shit up and laugh and damn our dice to hell for not giving us the rolls we wanted.
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No. They fucking CRUSHED the hated Wolveerninnies.
NTodd, DFO
Ah, but the Arrogant Assess from Ann Arbor will be back again some day. (I am not particularly a fan, btw)
My high school (the one I graduated from back in the stone age) is an interesting team. They were rated #2 in Division 2 and played the #1 Team in Division 1 yesterday. Beat them 27-6 and gave up in total yardage: -13 yards. The game was played in front of 14K fans in Rockford near Vicki-ville.
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geor3ge, sole physical custody, but Mlle has joint legal custody.
He has not, however, cooperated in any fashion necessitated with with a joint custody arrangement.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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Speaking of Obama, here's a little slice of a day in the field office...
NTodd, DFO |
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Penn St beat a shitty Michigan team and Ohio State destroyed a good Michigan St team and next week guess who plays?
Lookout, Ohio St has Vince Young for QB.
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colin powell has some fucking redeeming to do. whether it's with himself, or with the american public is to be found out tomorrow...
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Probably do the punk some good. The members of the Armed Forces are the most respected community in the nation.
Brian
Then again, you likely never joined up.
Good for thee but not for me!
Supreme Commander Thor | 10.18.08 - 10:44 pm | #
Every man in my family over the last five generations has served this great nation, with pride.
Yourself?
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Two degrees C tonight. I built a fire.
Moe Szyslak |
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Ya'll are hating on my Wolverines. I'm crushed.
NTodd, especially you: BOUNDARIES!
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colin powell has some fucking redeeming to do. whether it's with himself, or with the american public is to be found out tomorrow...
fokowi beta mode | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 10:48 pm | #
Powell is a great American. He owes no one nothing, especially some fou-mouther blogger like yourself.
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Sally, I'll be sending good thoughts in your direction. This nightmare for you has gone on for far too long, and I hope your beloved Maddy realizes one day just how much love you have for her. You've fought a remarkable fight.
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Lookout, Ohio St has Vince Young for QB.
mike
Isn't he currently riding the pine at Tennessee?
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ms. fahrenheit, is there any chance the young man is interested in enlisting? Because if not, it was rather unfair of them to browbeat him like Jehovah's Witnesses. Poor kid was a captive audience.
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Ya'll are hating on my Wolverines.
WOLVERINES!
(begins drinking blood)
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Every man in my family over the last five generations has served this great nation, with pride.
just another lie from Georgetown, Texas. you really need to find a new hobby, pal.
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The Wolverines stopped the Russian invasion of Colorado. That's worth something, even if they can't play worth shit anymore.
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You know the significance of that bldg in the middle...? - NTodd, DFO
controlled implosion?
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I'm for sleep now. Catch some of you later on the overnight shift. Courage comrades! The defeat of the running dogs is in sight!
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Does anyone think that Penn State will beat Ohio State?
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Every man in my family over the last five generations has served this great nation, with pride.
Yourself?
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i certainly hope you don't mean that by military service alone. cuz if you do, well...
fokowi beta mode |
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Man, 175,000 in one day. There's something in the air I haven't felt since 1960.
And you can get the troglodytes feel it, too. Te next couple weeks aint gonna be pretty.
Any of the wingers compared St Louis to Red Square yet?
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Lookout, Ohio St has Vince Young for QB.
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Yeah, Yeah, WE'RE voting for Obama, make sure Ohio does and then I'll be impressed.
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Every man in my family over the last five generations has served this great nation, with pride.
Yourself?
Brian
Thereby admitting a man it is not.
A weenie, it is.
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Yeah, 4000 dead Americans and 100k dead Iraqis and Powell owes no one nothing.
Fuck. Off. Asshole.
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You know the significance of that bldg in the middle...?
Yep. There was also this:
In 1820, Congress admitted Missouri to the Union as a slave state, opening it to a large migration of white people and their slaves westward from the southern slave states, expanding and widening the slave trade as they went. Joining the migration, the Blow family moved to St. Louis, Missouri, taking Dred Scott with them. There, they sold him to Dr. John Emerson, a military surgeon, who was stationed at Jefferson Barracks. Dred Scott served Dr. Emerson for the next twelve years, traveling with him to other assigned posts in Illinois, the Wisconsin Territory, and at Fort Snelling in what became Minnesota — all places where slavery was prohibited.
At Fort Snelling, Minnesota, Dred Scott met and married Harriet Robinson, also a slave, and they had two children. In 1842, Dr. Emerson and his wife moved back to St. Louis, taking the Scott family along. The following year, 1843, Dr. Emerson died. Now the property of the widow Emerson, Dred, Harriet, and their two children found themselves hired out by her for service to other families.
/non-chalantly ties in local aspect
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Isn't he currently riding the pine at Tennessee?
There new QB Pryor is like Vince Young. 6'6" and a great runner.
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given his lies before the United Nations why the fuck is Powell even on the public stage? is there a sudden shortage of Bush toadies who fled, like rats, from that sinking ship?
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DWD,
What Muskegon team beat Rockford?
Mom grew up in the Heights, and she graduated from Muskegon Catholic Central in 1955.
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Penn St beat a shitty Michigan team and Ohio State destroyed a good Michigan St team and next week guess who plays?
I'm torn. Old OSU fan, NTodd's Pa's Wife's Pa was a big PSU fan (Class of 41) and even corresponded with Joe P. I think I want it to be the Nittany Lions' year...
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Penn State couldn't beat Pitt. That's why the won't play them.
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"Does anyone think that Penn State will beat Ohio State?"
they have the talent.
depends on which osu team shows. id' say advantage psu.
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All the times I drove by Snelling and I never visited.
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As someone who's been in the military, I can say that I feel greatly for those who have turned to it as the only way to achieve any social or economic mobility. Reading "Generation Kill" will give you a taste of just how disorganized -- and unfortuante -- our military has become under Bush, Cheney and others.
Sure, it's a proud calling, but it's not one to be held in adoration. We just need to fund them and use them wisely. Oh, and treat them well when they become veterans -- an often ignored part of the whole equation.
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Probably do the punk some good. The members of the Armed Forces are the most respected community in the nation.
how'd the tutoring go today, Allen?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 10.18.08 - 10:43 pm | #
What's wrong with tutoring? Is education not an honorable filed? What do you do for a living?
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NTodd, I LOVE your post about what happened at the Obama HQ today. I love how you marry activism and communicating about it.
I wish I would have written that.
I can tell you that HQ was very busy: When I was there, I bet there were 250 walk-ins picking up signs, buttons, bumperstickers, etc. But then, I'm in a town of 200,000.
I like going down there, though. It's invigorating.
Fun to work this year.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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Yo Brian Powell sold out America for the Bush Crime family you stupid bastard.
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Is education not an honorable filed?
Case Closed.
Is our children learning yet?
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Looking forward to next week's GOTV training and dry run on the weekend. Oh, and this fucking election being over.
You speak for me.
also
Some people on this blog are very dumb when it comes to football.
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There new QB Pryor is like Vince Young. 6'6" and a great runner.
I know and was stating the obvious that what is great one week can be shit the next. When the QB is a Freshman.
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What Muskegon team beat Rockford?
Mom grew up in the Heights, and she graduated from Muskegon Catholic Central in 1955.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Muskegon High School. (My alma mater (Class of 6 We have a long tradition of winning teams. When I went to school there we never lost - tied one game was all.
Several pro players have come from there and currently we have players playing for MSU, SoCal, and other big time schools.
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aren't active duty military giving more to Obama than to McCain..?
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having a military is not bad.
using it to defend an empire and invading countries without real provocation is bad.
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Is education not an honorable filed?
Yse.
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Personally I could give a shit who Colin Powell endorses.
He has no honor.
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Fuck Texas and fuck Penn State.
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Oh God, don't mention Pitt. There's a certain someone who posts here who has his sparsely decorated apartment adorned with stuffed Panthers.
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Yeah, 4000 dead Americans and 100k dead Iraqis and Powell owes no one nothing.
Fuck. Off. Asshole.
dr. cosmosis MD | 10.18.08 - 10:50 pm | #
Does that mean you feel guilty over the million murdered fetuses every year from abortion clinics?
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Is our children learning yet?
Supreme Commander Thor | 10.18.08 - 10:55 pm
hey, get a brian, moran!
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Northeast, Pa. Look it up on a map. I love how Pa. names it's towns.
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I'll be darn, did not know that-- about 4 hours due northwest from me. Yeah I love the strange names, my area is surrounding by alot of towns with the ending of "ville".
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Especially Texas.
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Powell sold his soul for some reason, the same way McCain left behind whatever honor he had the moment he embraced Bush. Just think of it, George W. left both of these men -- and millions of other people -- in the dust and ruin of his abominable history. And yet he can still sleep at night; at least that's what he tells us.
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All the times I drove by Snelling and I never visited.
It's as militaristic as we get in the TCs (outside of the Armories built out of fear of labor uprising in the 20s). Shut down after WWII, but some of the oldest buildings in the state.
Doesn't help that it's right next door to MSP...but check it out next time you're up here.
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Is our children learning yet?
Allen's spelling students aren't usually repeat customers.
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Oh, and this fucking election being over.
Just got my ballot in the mail. I will be voting tomorrow for Obama and Merkley!
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our phone bank made 3700 calls today 3500 to Nevada.
we come back to do it again tomorrow.
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aren't active duty military giving more to Obama than to McCain..?
zig-zag | 10.18.08 - 10:56 pm | #
You must be smoking some crack rorsasch sold you.
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Probably do the punk some good. The members of the Armed Forces are the most respected community in the nation.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 10:41 pm | #
Weimar Germany?
Every man in my family over the last five generations has served this great nation, with pride.
Yourself?
Brian | 10.18.08 - 10:48 pm | #
Except you, of course. The family coward.
Powell is a great American. He owes no one nothing, especially some fou-mouther blogger like yourself.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 10:49 pm | #
He owes us 20 to life in prison for treason and lying to Congress. He is no American, he is a traitor. he is a citizen of Saudi Arabia, doing their bidding. He is a disgrace.
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Brian being his shit-stained self again. Booooooooooooorrriiiiiiiiing.
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Allen's spelling students aren't usually repeat customers.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 10.18.08 - 10:57 pm
You say potato, it says potatoe
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"he's been tormenting us a lot with Maddy lately. I think he's being fucking stupid."
He is very sick and his daughter may be all that is left of his identity. Don't make him more desperate than he already is. Nobody will win here.
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Oh Yeah. I still get that silly "the US Army GAVE you your right to free speech" e-mail once in a while.
As a veteran of the US Army that crap makes me ill.
Fortunately, I knew a lot of soldiers who would reject that sort of sentiment.
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BCS, we just don't respond.
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Vici - you are silly.
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As someone who's been in the military.
Glenn | 10.18.08 - 10:53 pm | #
What'd you do?
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if the sox win, I have to figure out how to juggle my wife's choir's concert and baseball.
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our phone bank made 3700 calls today 3500 to Nevada.
we come back to do it again tomorrow.
peterboy | 10.18.08 - 10:58 pm | #
Impressing us every week. Great job! Thanks.
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I read a stat about military contributions to candidates back when Obama was in Iraq. he was receiving more than McCain, but the biggest difference was with enlisted men, Obama was getting 6 times the number of contributions
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Does that mean you feel guilty over the million murdered fetuses every year from abortion clinics?
Brian | 10.18.08 - 10:56 pm | #
A fetus is not a person, thus no murder.
You are deeply uneducated. No wonder you're a coward and a phony, you're very stupid.
ronjazz |
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aren't active duty military giving more to Obama than to McCain..?
zig-zag
Yea, but it has a different meaning than what you imply, I think.
Very few active duty military have enough money where they can make political contributions.-- they get paid shit. And in fact the total contributions are very, very low.
BUT, of that very low total, most goes to Obama. What this tells us, I think, is that of people who are independently wealthy and go into the military, most give to Democrats. In other words, independently wealthy Republicans generally don't go into the military. Ergo, they're chickenhawks.
Moe Szyslak |
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10.18.08 - 11:01 pm | #
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Sox better not win.
It's been a while since we've had a turf team win it all.
/Twins fan
AndyMN |
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10.18.08 - 11:01 pm | #
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Every man in my family over the last five generations has served this great nation, with pride.
Yourself?
Brian | 10.18.08 - 10:48 pm | #
i certainly hope you don't mean that by military service alone. cuz if you do, well...
fokowi beta mode | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 10:50 pm | #
It's exactly what I meant.
Brian |
10.18.08 - 11:01 pm | #
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What'd you do?
Brian
Naval aviation; resigned commission after deciding I couldn't drop bombs on anybody. A life-altering decision.
Glenn |
10.18.08 - 11:01 pm | #
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if the sox win, I have to figure out how to juggle my wife's choir's concert and baseball. - peterboy
Playing with fire there, my friend.
bo |
10.18.08 - 11:02 pm | #
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Irony is dad fuckers!
NTodd, DFO |
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10.18.08 - 11:02 pm | #
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What'd you do?
Brian
Naval aviation; resigned commission after deciding I couldn't drop bombs on anybody. A life-altering decision.
Glenn | 10.18.08 - 11:01 pm | #
So you went through flight training, then turned in your wings?
Brian |
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Ergo, they're chickenhawks.
Moe Szyslak
Flawless logic. Exhibit A: Butler.
cosmosis the plumbing MD |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/
commen...bama.johnmccain
Here is the link
bill |
10.18.08 - 11:03 pm | #
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but the biggest difference was with enlisted men, Obama was getting 6 times the number of contributions
Case closed.
zig-zag |
10.18.08 - 11:03 pm | #
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I hate baseball, but it's the Phil's year.
die Bisamratte |
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Flawless logic. Exhibit A: Butler.
Dude is being a real dick tonight.
Then again, why would tonight be any different?
Supreme Commander Thor |
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damn i love oakland
ErinPDX | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 9:06 pm
Fenton's!
http://www.fentonscreamery.com/
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Five generations of PLO's? Didn't know that rate had been around for so long.
bo |
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thanks, ms fahrenheit.
I owe it all to the HS kids who keep coming and others we recruit during the week. All made easier cause two of us are out of work and none of us has a regular job.
there are also some nice shut ins who make recruiting calls during the week from home.
as with all of us patriots, i will be bereft if we suffer another defeat at the polls.
we need an end to the madness.
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aren't active duty military giving more to Obama than to McCain..?
zig-zag | 10.18.08 - 10:56 pm | #
You must be smoking some crack rorsasch sold you.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 10:58 pm | #
Sorry, Brainless, but the US military is giving triple the amount to the Obama campaign vs. the McKlan disaster. I guess they're tired of being blown to pieces for oilmen's profits. They would rather be defending America and freedom than enslaved illegally by a fratboy deserter.
ronjazz |
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our phone bank made 3700 calls today 3500 to Nevada.
Shit, bitch, that's fucking awesome.
BTW, does anybody know what the phone call:vote ratio is? With canvassing, it's 12:1, no matter what the outcome of the knocked door...
NTodd, DFO |
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10.18.08 - 11:04 pm | #
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Personally I could give a shit who Colin Powell endorses.
true, but it'll be a whole nother newscycle spent for the MSM to talk about it, instead of how Obama is a socialist.
Time is running out on McCain.
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10.18.08 - 11:04 pm | #
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aren't active duty military giving more to Obama than to McCain..?
zig-zag
Yea, but it has a different meaning than what you imply, I think.
Very few active duty military have enough money where they can make political contributions.-- they get paid shit. And in fact the total contributions are very, very low.
BUT, of that very low total, most goes to Obama. What this tells us, I think, is that of people who are independently wealthy and go into the military, most give to Democrats. In other words, independently wealthy Republicans generally don't go into the military. Ergo, they're chickenhawks.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 11:01 pm | #
Well, the stats are pretty surprising. The Armed Forces as awhole stand behind McCain with exception to the African Americans.
Just review it at any of the Military Times mags.
Brian |
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It's exactly what I meant.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:01 pm | #
Well, we already know that you're a liar. It's now evident that you're a shameless liar.
ronjazz |
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I'm going to bed. Good night, all.
Moe Szyslak |
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Me too.
you haven't been to both places so how could you know?
fokowi beta mode
I'm a graduate of SDSU and I've spent a good deal of time in SLO. Was at both places this summer.
So I do know.
edub |
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So you went through flight training, then turned in your wings?
Brian
Not quite. Left the program before I received my wings. And who knows, I might not ever have qualified.
It was a great experience in many ways and taught me a lot about myself.
Glenn |
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So I went to the Obama rally in KC today. The only big boo was when Obama mentioned that Chiefs Head Coach Herm Edwards was there.
Kathleen Sebilus spoke earlier, and she's much better in front of a crowd like that than she was at the Convention or when she gave the response to the SOTU.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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10.18.08 - 11:05 pm | #
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Please Dawg, let Obama be a Socialist.
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What'd you do?
Brian
your father.
atheist lesbian Muslim guy |
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Personally I could give a shit who Colin Powell endorses.
You stand alone. Powell will be the next GOP nominee.
Brian |
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Fenton's! - doug r
Aiyeeeee! Flashback. Many a late night trip induced by stone munchies.
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Time is running out on McCain.
No timeouts, 1 second on the shot clock, Celtics up by 20 with less than a minute left...
NTodd, DFO |
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Local news said there was 75,000+ there.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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Glenn, a deeply personal, and probably a difficult, decision.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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So you went through flight training, then turned in your wings?
Brian
Not quite. Left the program before I received my wings. And who knows, I might not ever have qualified.
It was a great experience in many ways and taught me a lot about myself.
Glenn | 10.18.08 - 11:05 pm | #
I'm glad you didn't waste the resources and training and made the decision early. Few men actually finish the aviation program anyhow.
Brian |
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So you went through flight training, then turned in your wings?
Brian
Not quite. Left the program before I received my wings. And who knows, I might not ever have qualified.
It was a great experience in many ways and taught me a lot about myself.
Glenn | 10.18.08 - 11:05 pm | #
I'm glad you didn't waste the resources and training and made the decision early. Few men actually finish the aviation program anyhow.
Brian |
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My hat is off to you Glenn.
die Bisamratte |
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In the mail today was a newsletter from the local Catholic Diocese addressed to the former owners of this house or current resident. Since we are the current residents (and have been for fifteen years) we opened it.
It was a political statement of the church instructing us on who we, as good Catholics, should vote for in the upcoming elections. After arguing, in Biblical terms - actually a bunch of hooey - it DEMANDED that we vote the straight Republican Ticket as they are the party that demands fealty on the ONLY two issues worth caring about - apparently; abortion and gay marriage.
I guess that murdering by the state and the starving of innocent children and the deprivation of the poor is not something that really bothers the church too much, eh?
What is more galling is that they have the audacity to demand that their parishioners vote for the Republican ticket without endangering their tax-exempt status. From my perspective, the moment they choose sides in an election, they forfeit that right.
But I am old and stupid, right?
DWD-S☮S |
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I didn't phone bank, I filed, made copies, and pulled signs.
I phone banked for Kerry though, and it was roughly 55/45 for Bush. Pretty close to how the vote came out in this area (Grand Rapids went for Kerry, but the surrounding area didn't).
All I can say is that it was much busier than it was in 2004, and the office was much more organized.
2000 was an infant of 04, and an embryo of '08.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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Just review it at any of the Military Times mags.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:04 pm | #
Military Times came up with the numbers, stupid. American military gives far more to Obama than to McCain. Money is green, not black or white.
You sure are desperate. You are going to lose so big, you'll never recover.
ronjazz |
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I'm hearing John McShame on the news. Unbelievable bullshit
bill |
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people at our phone bank cheered when I told them 100k had rallied for OB in st louis. one woman called up her sister in MO., to ask if she was there.
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On c-span/BookTV
Forum
Political Parties in the South
Winter (William) Institute for Racial Reconciliation
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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peterboy
We have a ton of HS students too. Our person to singularly register the most people is 73.
Gotta love him.
I haven't given a thought to a loss. You needn't either.
ms fahrenheit |
10.18.08 - 11:08 pm | #
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I was navel air myself.
die Bisamratte |
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"So I went to the Obama rally in KC today."
was there really 75k there? i read both 40k and 75k.......
jdw |
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Glenn, a deeply personal, and probably a difficult, decision.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 10.18.08 - 11:07 pm | #
Like you have any idea. You never served.
That's like me telling you about childbirth.
Brian |
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Fluck, Colon Bowel!
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I didn't phone bank, I filed, made copies, and pulled signs.
Signs, mostly. I'm a bit too introverted to phone bank.
Donated a lot too
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Glenn, a deeply personal, and probably a difficult, decision.
Sallyh
You bet. I went from having the next 20 years of my life planned to not knowing what to do, so I went back into the newspaper business.
Went to flight school right out of college in '68; back home in late '70. (And the bitch of it was I really, really love flying.)
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DWD, are you sure it was from the Archdiocese?
Sounds fraudulent to me.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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i certainly hope you don't mean that by military service alone. cuz if you do, well...
fokowi beta mode | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 10:50 pm | #
It's exactly what I meant.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:01 pm | #
the backlash you feel isn't at all directed towards the military, although i understand why someone like you would.
fokowi beta mode |
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What is more galling is that they have the audacity to demand that their parishioners vote for the Republican ticket without endangering their tax-exempt status. From my perspective, the moment they choose sides in an election, they forfeit that right.
Send that letter to the IRS, asking for a ruling on whether or not it violates the religious exemption of the diocese.
Then write the diocese and let them know that you inquired to the IRS as to their status.
montag |
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You stand alone. Powell will be the next GOP nominee.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:05 pm | #
Excellent. They'll never get the White House, then. Never. Powell couldn't be elected sewer commissioner.
ronjazz |
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I'm a bit too introverted to phone bank.
I'm happy to phone bank, but MoveOn got more volunteers today than they bargained for at the Obama HQ.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.18.08 - 11:10 pm | #
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That's like me telling you about childbirth.
Brian
Brian's on a charm offensive tonight.
Watch out, ladies.
edub |
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Just review it at any of the Military Times mags.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:04 pm | #
Military Times came up with the numbers, stupid. American military gives far more to Obama than to McCain. Money is green, not black or white.
You sure are desperate. You are going to lose so big, you'll never recover.
ronjazz | 10.18.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Well post the approval ratings then, faggot. I spoke the truth.
Brian |
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I was navel air myself.
die Bisamratte
When and where, my friend. I'm sure you're much younger than I; most everybody is.
Glenn |
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I could give fuck all about Powell. He lied his ass off and thousands of troops died.
probably be more like Palin/Powell, '12. Sarahcuda/House Tom on the ticket together.
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I'm glad you didn't waste the resources and training and made the decision early. Few men actually finish the aviation program anyhow.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:07 pm | #
Too bad McCain never learned that lesson, instead of costing the USA millions in planes and hundreds of sailors' lives.
ronjazz |
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Masterdebatings
bill |
10.18.08 - 11:11 pm | #
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Brian....I just gota ask...
as you clearly have your tongue up Dick Cheney's ass
Doesn't it taste like shit..?
zig-zag |
10.18.08 - 11:11 pm | #
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For me, Brian is very easy to ignore.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.18.08 - 11:11 pm | #
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was there really 75k there? i read both 40k and 75k.......
I couldn't tell, we were in the inner area (inside the SS security cordon) and there were lots more outside.
My wild ass guess would be that there were easily 30,000+ in the inner area.
I'm not sure why they arranged it the way they did, if they had put the podium at the base of the Liberty Memorial it would have made a lot more sense.
The local news said 75,000+ just now.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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It was a political statement of the church instructing us on who we, as good Catholics, should vote for in the upcoming elections.
When did they give up their tax-free status?
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Went to flight school right out of college in '68; back home in late '70. (And the bitch of it was I really, really love flying.)
Glenn | 10.18.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Considering most aircraft don't fly in combat and the majority of Naval Aircraft are helicopters, I'm surprised you didn't pursue a non-combatant pipeline.
Brian |
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Vicki, killfile is everyone's friend!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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Too bad McCain never learned that lesson, instead of costing the USA millions in planes and hundreds of sailors' lives.
On the other hand, we probably help pay for the $20s he stuff in hooker's g-strings. It evens out.
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So I do know.
edub | 10.18.08 - 11:05 pm | #
whoa. oops. next time you're in town meet me at ray's corner. i'm buying...
fokowi beta mode |
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For me, Brian is very easy to ignore.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
But you certainly are not
bill |
10.18.08 - 11:12 pm | #
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That's like me telling you about childbirth.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Or about serving, except for the fast-food joint you "work" at. You never served, nor had a kid, obviously.
ronjazz |
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For me, Brian is very easy to ignore.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 11:11 pm | #
that's why she posts about me.
whistle whistle!
Brian |
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Like you have any idea. You never served.
That's like me telling you about childbirth.
Brian
Hmmph. You've not done either.
montag |
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That's like me telling you about childbirth.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Or about serving, except for the fast-food joint you "work" at. You never served, nor had a kid, obviously.
ronjazz | 10.18.08 - 11:13 pm | #
Still waiting for the stats, queer.
Brian |
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But you certainly are not
::blushes::

Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.18.08 - 11:14 pm | #
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Ooh! Tremors 3 on Chiller Theatre!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
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Well post the approval ratings then, faggot. I spoke the truth.
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:10 pm | #
approval ratings? We're talking about donations, not some made-up racist bullshit by scared whitey 2nd looey liars.
ronjazz |
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"I didn't phone bank, I filed, made copies, and pulled signs."
we *begged* them to find anything for us, other then knock doors and make calls...signs, stuff envelopes, enter data, run for coffee or the boe or clean the toilets at headquarters.
so far, they've used us very little. kinda sucks.
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No Glenn, I think we may be the same age. I too was lucky, I didn't have to kill anyone.
die Bisamratte |
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Brian, I never read your shit.
And that's the last time I'm addressing you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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Like you have any idea. You never served.
That's like me telling you about childbirth.
Brian
Hmmph. You've not done either.
montag | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 11:13 pm | #
You're command of the language is less than imprssive. Need some tutoring?
Brian |
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How do you know this is the same Brian? The other guy doesn't respond at all and this guy is viciously interactive. That seems like a reasonable enough divergence to call them different. Really, what's your ground for calling them the same, the name? There's no gravatar, I say they're different people.
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Definitely send it to the IRS, DWD.
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Brian, those RNC talking points add up fast, and pretty soon you can ride the All Talk Express and change McCain's dirty, soiled Depends!!
NSA |
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Ooh! Tremors 3 on Chiller Theatre!
Sallyh
I watched "The Day the Earth Stood Still" for about the 1,500th time today. And I enjoy it every time.
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Ooh! Tremors 3 on Chiller Theatre!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Popcorn time!!!
bill |
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I'm glad you didn't waste the resources and training and made the decision early. Few men actually finish the aviation program anyhow.
Brian
How the fuck would you know?
They closest you've ever been to the military is your GI Joe doll.
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Brian, I never read your shit.
And that's the last time I'm addressing you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.18.08 - 11:14 pm | #
More attention from Vicki!
Is she hitting on me?
Brian |
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jdw--there are all kinds of phone calls.
you can call OB supporters to schedule them to phone bank. you dont have to worry about talking to mccainiacs.
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I'm glad you didn't waste the resources and training and made the decision early. Few men actually finish the aviation program anyhow.
Brian
How the fuck would you know?
They closest you've ever been to the military is your GI Joe doll.
flory | 10.18.08 - 11:15 pm | #
Have you served?
Brian |
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"The local news said 75,000+ just now."
wow.
jdw |
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Hmmph. You've not done either. - montag
He served honorably for 3 days at Olive Garden. He's a Vet.
bo |
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Frank Luntz: Obama will be next president
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whoa. oops. next time you're in town meet me at ray's corner. i'm buying...
fokowi beta mode
No problem. Which town? It's been a while since I've lived in San Diego. . .
I love the Infodome, though.
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We won't talk about the fourth day.
bo |
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served ice cream.
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DWD
The crazy ass bishop here came close to not allowing Dems to take communion in '04. He is much less political this time around.
jdw
Most are nervous about canvassing/phone banking, but it really only takes two calls or knocks before you're on to it. You should try once.
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No Glenn, I think we may be the same age. I too was lucky, I didn't have to kill anyone.
die Bisamratte
Pensacola?
You're right, of course. All in all we're quite lucky. Hell, my whole life has been one bit of good fortune after the other, really, so I can't complain about my plans for a Naval career not working out. I've had a wonderful life.
Glenn |
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Oh, and the Fred Phleps whackjobs were there, all 9 of them.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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DWD,
What parish? St. Frances, I'm assuming.
Also, please know that many Catholics who get that shit tend to defy the Church.
Not all, of course, but many say, "fuck you, monsignoir."
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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It's a little sad because I really did like to fly. I just didn't want to kill anyone.
die Bisamratte |
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Good evening.
I've been receiving some eally rancid robocalls at the church office.
Last gasps of desperate fools.
left rev, gastric distress |
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You're command of the language is less than imprssive. Need some tutoring?
Brian | 10.18.08 - 11:15 pm | #
Hahahaha! The stupid, it shines so brightly.
This isn't the usual boring, long-winded, well-read Brian. This is the incredibly stupid, transparently dishonest Brian, just another Butler sock. mimi in drag, another wingnut closet case, can't wait to call everyone a fag or queer, projecting like McCain's 3 million dollar planetarium.
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Have you served?
Brian
Never said I did.
You on the other hand, are a lying sack of shit who maintains that he has. Playing with GI Joe does *not* count.
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Somebody in Western Pennsylvania, Alabama was going around asking who folks were going to vote for. Lady hollared into the house to the redneck husband. "Who we gonna vote fer". Answer was "The nIgger". She turned around and said "We are gonna vote fer the nigger" just like it was all right, normal and accepted in their circle of life. HOly shit, my grandfather escaped from this hell hole a hundred and twenty five years ago. It has to be some nighmare in which I happened to get trapped here.
Tom Hayden |
10.18.08 - 11:18 pm | #
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Great. Did I just kill the thread?
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10.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
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It's a little sad because I really did like to fly. I just didn't want to kill anyone.
die Bisamratte | 10.18.08 - 11:18 pm | #
Fucking pussy. Typical sailor.
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10.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
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I've been receiving some eally rancid robocalls at the church office.
Last gasps of desperate fools.
left rev, gastric distress
Too bad you can't roboanswer the robocalls.
edub |
10.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
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edub. lost in translation. i'm talking about south dakota state university.
fokowi beta mode |
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10.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
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DWD,
Haven't said anything directly to you of late, but want you to know I've followed your medical situation and I'm glad they've made some progress for you. Hang in there, bud.
Glenn |
10.18.08 - 11:19 pm | #
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KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AFP) — Democrat Barack Obama said Saturday the winds of change were blowing across America as he roused monster crowds totalling more than 175,000 in the Republican "red" state of Missouri.
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Police said the crowd in St Louis numbered at least 100,000 -- Obama's biggest yet in the United States, second overall only to the 200,000 who saw him speak in Berlin in July. The Kansas City crowd was more than 75,000.
JT |
10.18.08 - 11:20 pm | #
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left rev, the Obama campaign is asking everybody to report direct mail smears and nasty robocalls, here's the link:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s.../s/
reportsmears
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10.18.08 - 11:20 pm | #
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You're command of the language is less than imprssive. Need some tutoring?
Hmm. Very imprssive, indeed.
At least I can spell, and know the difference between "you're" and "your."
Tell you what, come back and argue the point when you finish fourth grade.
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10.18.08 - 11:20 pm | #
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edub. lost in translation. i'm talking about south dakota state university.
fokowi beta mode
OK. You do know that San Diego State University lost to Cal Poly (i.e. SLO) this year, right?
Too fucking funny.
edub |
10.18.08 - 11:20 pm | #
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Police said the crowd in St Louis numbered at least 100,000 -- Obama's biggest yet in the United States, second overall only to the 200,000 who saw him speak in Berlin in July. The Kansas City crowd was more than 75,000.
JT | 10.18.08 - 11:20 pm | #
Cue the "Hitler" comparisons from the GOP shitbags.
Obama's too popular to win.
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10.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
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"you can call OB supporters to schedule them to phone bank. "
told the coordinator that. personally, i think the kid is clueless, bless his heart. first real mission he tried to give us was to register voters at a rw church festival. (he ain't from here and didn't know better)
i'll keep making my donations and keep offering for us to help.
jdw |
10.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
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the homophobe is still here?
JT |
10.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
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Erin,
Muskegon County Catholic Voter League.
So, I guess it is not the church. My bad.
The question in this debate is this; can a Catholic vote with a clear conscience for a candidate that supports abortion? And, if we vote for the candidate knowing his intent to help murder millions of children, do we become accomplices in the sin of child killing?
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Certain Catholic Christian believes are essential elements that Catholic Christianity cannot lose without ceasing to be itself.
American politics today hs increasingly become a struggle between those who love traditional Catholic Christianity and those who hate it.
These two cultural adversaries have found it necessary to form alliances with the nations' two dominant political parties.
Cultural moral liberals with the Democratic Party.
Cultural Catholic Christians with the Republican Party.
and they play major roles in them.
This shit is toxic
DWD-S☮S |
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10.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
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Too bad you can't roboanswer the robocalls.
edub
I really wouldn't want to talk to them and I doubt that they'd listen anyway.
Its bad enough to get them at home (my daughters answer the phone all the time since its USUALLY for them anyway), but to get them at the church just shows that they are dialing with no thought at all to strategy. Just random poo throwing.
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10.18.08 - 11:21 pm | #
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McBombBomb campaign = DRF.
McCain Campaign Channels George Allen: NOVA is not "Real Virginia"
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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10.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
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left rev, the Obama campaign is asking everybody to report direct mail smears and nasty robocalls, here's the link:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s.../s/ reportsmears
Karin Hussein
That's a nice thing you did there, Karin. Thanks much.
Glenn |
10.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
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left rev.,
How's Barron County these days? SILs are in Chetek this weekend.
AndyMN |
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10.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
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JT |
10.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
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Later. I'm going to get ready for SNL. Sweet dreams, if I'm not back.
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10.18.08 - 11:22 pm | #
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the homophobe is still here?
JT
McCain must have slipped him a $50 to be extra assholliery tonight.
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10.18.08 - 11:23 pm | #
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Karin Hussein
I have responded to them at that link. Thanks.
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10.18.08 - 11:23 pm | #
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screw you, fake JT.
edub |
10.18.08 - 11:23 pm | #
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Too bad you can't roboanswer the robocalls.
I think by law, they have to leave a call back number-if you can stand to listen to the end of the message.
Karin Hussein |
10.18.08 - 11:24 pm | #
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Frank Luntz: Obama will be next president.
Damn..
Was he sobbing? He's King of the Partisans.
T4TN |
10.18.08 - 11:24 pm | #
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I do not see sheetz....
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10.18.08 - 11:24 pm | #
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told the coordinator that. personally, i think the kid is clueless, bless his heart. first real mission he tried t
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