remember when they said the sunday shows were stacked with goopers because the goopers held congress and the wh, and that if the dems took those back they'd get the preponderance of apperances?
jdw |
11.15.08 - 2:14 pm | #
Hey, kids! Let's produce our own Sunday morning talk show.
George Johnston |
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11.15.08 - 2:20 pm | #
Entirely off topic - has anybody gone to see the new exhibit at the Huntington Library? We're thinking about doing a one-day trip over from Phoenix because we love those old books.
atablarasa |
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11.15.08 - 2:21 pm | #
I'd go for the Huntington Gardens.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 2:23 pm | #
A commercial for Plan B?
We ARE making progress.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 2:23 pm | #
Newhall Pass has just been closed down.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.15.08 - 2:23 pm | #
Let them chat. We have demonstrated that they mean nothing.
kei & yuri, yamatocious |
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11.15.08 - 2:24 pm | #
Well, let's use our magical powers to encourage the producers of these shows to switch their focus.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.15.08 - 2:24 pm | #
I'm out for the night. Have a good evening, beautiful people.
Marcellina |
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11.15.08 - 2:25 pm | #
Okay, I made a furry guy a promise. Must oblige.
He loves his walks. I'm shooting for an hour 15 today; good meditation time.
Peace.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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11.15.08 - 2:25 pm | #
we're outnumbered 9-1 on talk radio so it makes sense we'd be outnumbered by that margin on sunday talk shows
jr |
11.15.08 - 2:26 pm | #
And your point is?....
Maybe Howie Kurtz will take up this issue on Reliable Sources....nah....
Prairie Sunshine |
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11.15.08 - 2:26 pm | #
Have a nice walk, Vicki and pooch.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 2:26 pm | #
Won't be watching the teevee this Sunday. Teh stupid is too much to bear.
sidhra صيذ |
11.15.08 - 2:26 pm | #
Your librul media - In The Tank For Obama™
Buzz Bomb |
11.15.08 - 2:27 pm | #
i stopped counting last night when campbell brown put tom delay on to discuss whether it was a good idea for obama to pick clinton for state, and talk about how obama is going to shred the constitution.
i mean, i enjoy absurdist theatre at least as much as the next guy, but i think she jumped the shark with that interview.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.15.08 - 2:27 pm | #
dirk, I wish just once the damn shark would jump her.
tippinpoint |
11.15.08 - 2:29 pm | #
The plan of the right wing was to fill up think tanks with conservative "experts," and speakers' bureaus full of conservative "experts," and eventually fill the media's Rolodexes with conservative names, so that everywhere they turned, there was a right-winger there to answer their questions.
In that, over the past thirty-five years, they've succeeded admirably. Now, it's gotten to the point where the media has their regular conservative favorites upon whom they look first to fill slots.
The wingers have come a long way since the embarrassments surrounding Richard Nixon's demise.
montag |
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11.15.08 - 2:29 pm | #
I'm out for the night. Have a good evening, beautiful people. - Marcellina
But, but, but it ain't even noon here. Bye. :sniff:
bo |
11.15.08 - 2:29 pm | #
Repugs are far more convincing liars. Makes for better teevee.
macacawitz |
11.15.08 - 2:30 pm | #
Repugs are far more convincing liars. Makes for better teevee.
macacawitz
I just don't watch.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 2:31 pm | #
Gromit's afternoon:
Work, work, work.
What's that sound downstairs? Sounds like an old water pump. Oh shit, its the dog puking.
It's far more titillating to ask a repug if he's ever sniffed the crotch of Palin's panties.
macacawitz |
11.15.08 - 2:32 pm | #
More material for CoT to work with.
Karatist Preacher |
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11.15.08 - 2:33 pm | #
delay explained, btw, why mccain lost - or rather, why obama won. surprisingly, it had nothing to do with his ideas or his policies which the american people unanimously reject. see, he had a great organization and after hillary stepped aside he inherited her organization too. so he got a lot of people to go to the polls, but those people have no idea what kind of president he will be and don't trust him because he has no record and is outside the mainstream. but no one wanted to vote for mcain, so when they went into the booth they were either voting for or against obama.
he didn't get around to explaing why most of them voted "for," though. i was disappointed because i wanted to know.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.15.08 - 2:33 pm | #
Oh, geez, listening to Austin's NPR station, and they're playing Dave van Ronk imitating Ernest Borgnine singing "Teddy Bears' Picnic."
When the Republicans won we NEVER saw a Democrat on the Sunday political shows.
bajsa | 11.15.08 - 2:34 pm | #
well of course not - the democrats were out of power, since they couldn't affect policy and weren't the heads of the committees, they wouldn't have had anything worthwhile to say.
now that the dems are in power, however, it is very important to hear the opposing viewpoint or how will we know what is really going on?
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.15.08 - 2:39 pm | #
Our work is only now just beginning.
Ralph-no-relation-to-Nader |
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11.15.08 - 2:39 pm | #
The fact that I am no relation to Nader has no relation to this particular subject.
Ralph |
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11.15.08 - 2:40 pm | #
Frank, Rangel, Dorgan, and Levin make four; it's an onslaught of dirty hippies.
course, I was a Renaissance Lit major so mebbe my math is off.
cavjam |
11.15.08 - 2:40 pm | #
The election's over. I guess Ronald Reagan can go back to being dead.
As long as there are right-wingers around to whine that Obama has an obligation to govern to the right to "unite" the nation as Reagan did, Reagan will live on....
If Obama's smart, he'll rescind, in full, Bush's EO 13233 right away, and force the release of Poppy Bush's VP and Prez papers. Reagan won't look quite so presidential--or uniting--once that happens.
montag |
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11.15.08 - 2:40 pm | #
The woman has killer legs.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 2:41 pm | #
CARIBOU BARBIE IN SHORTS
Pud has tidied up the trailer, replaced the burnt out bulbs in the "light-up" Elvis portrait, bought a fresh bag of Cheetos and box of wine and is praying that the door bell rings.
macacawitz |
11.15.08 - 2:41 pm | #
Home ablaze in hills of Yorba Linda, not a fire truck in sight.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 2:42 pm | #
I like how they keep going back to Delay and Gingrich. It was their slash and burn politics that lead to their demise and the demise of their party. And they still look to them for leadership? That's one stupid herd.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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11.15.08 - 2:42 pm | #
Politics is one thing - an attractive woman is another.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 2:44 pm | #
And I'll bet zero of those are women.
ErinPDX |
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11.15.08 - 2:44 pm | #
Its the Rude Pundit's fault, he linked to a link of it.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 2:45 pm | #
Colbert:
"Chris Matthews is here tonight, thank you so much for coming here tonight. People are asking, how did he come here, doesn't he have a show? Well what people don't know is that many nights, Chris just puts a blond wig on a potato and nobody notices.
Newton Whale |
11.15.08 - 2:45 pm | #
fire count in southern CA - three right now: the big one up in santa barbara county which destroyed a bunch of multi-million dollar mansions, the one that started in northern L.A. county last night around 10 pm (and which is threatening power lines that supply much of LA) and a third one, smaller, in Orange County. not good.
TEBB, still employed |
11.15.08 - 2:46 pm | #
I like how they keep going back to Delay and Gingrich.
and the repug media keeps going to discredited characters like Ollie North, Bill Bennett and Dick Morris. How dumb are these people?
macacawitz |
11.15.08 - 2:46 pm | #
If I click on that link, does it mean I'm GAY?
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 2:48 pm | #
We're getting heavy smoke now from the Yorba Linda/Corona fire.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 2:49 pm | #
As you would sir, see I would give the Black Hills back to the Sioux rather than risk a global financial catastrophe.
Le Jackel |
11.15.08 - 2:50 pm | #
If I click on that link, does it mean I'm GAY?
Gomez | 11.15.08 - 2:48 pm
no, sweetie, but asking if you are gay means you are gay.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.15.08 - 2:50 pm | #
If I click on that link, does it mean I'm GAY?
Gomez
Only if it moves.
macacawitz |
11.15.08 - 2:50 pm | #
It seems kind of odd to be able to keep up with a thread after so many weeks hyper-driven threads.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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11.15.08 - 2:51 pm | #
are you intimating that i am not a guy?
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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11.15.08 - 2:53 pm | #
I'd rather see another video of the CAT IN A BOX.
Brooklyn Girl, back home |
11.15.08 - 2:54 pm | #
After looking at those pics of Palin, I want her to stay around.
Its a guy thing.
Gomez
Wow. I did NOT see that coming.
jac |
11.15.08 - 2:54 pm | #
After looking at those pics of Palin, I want her to stay around.
Its a guy thing.
Could you convert her from the Dark Side?
Gromit |
11.15.08 - 2:54 pm | #
Talk to the Todd, Gomez.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 2:54 pm | #
"Its a guy thing" = "I am thinking with the brain between my legs"
Gromit |
11.15.08 - 2:55 pm | #
These Chinks loaned on the basis the United States held a trust fund of a number of trillion dollars based upon the refusal of the Sioux to accept that offer, for the Black Hills.
Le Jackel |
11.15.08 - 2:55 pm | #
He is so not a factor in the discussion.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 2:56 pm | #
The evacuation zone extends very near Sally's house.
I'm glad she's out.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
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11.15.08 - 2:56 pm | #
Okay, getting ready to head into the city for my traditional elitist chardonnay quaffing with my Negro communist friends.
As a farewell blogwhore, may I simply mention that we sing the praises of a MST3K DVD set over at Box Office, as well as arguing the Funniest Parody Films Ever? http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...nd-cinema-
l.php
Have fun until we meet again, although you could leave a comment, of course.
steve simels |
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11.15.08 - 2:56 pm | #
That Yorba Linda Fire is muy smoky, Deacon.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 2:56 pm | #
Looks like his head was imposed on another man's body.
And Palin was a fucking beauty queen. She'd better have great legs. Ogle her if you must ... just keep her out of public office, please.
Brooklyn Girl, back home |
11.15.08 - 2:57 pm | #
California's on fire again?
Makes you think...
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 2:58 pm | #
"These Chinks loaned on the basis the United States held a trust fund of a number of trillion dollars based upon the refusal of the Sioux to accept that offer, for the Black Hills.
Le Jackel | 11.15.08 - 2:55 pm | # "
Time to decontaminate this thread.
montanaheadcold |
11.15.08 - 2:59 pm | #
After looking at those pics of Palin, I want her to stay around.
Fire has always been a part of California's ecosystem.
plantsman
Too bad the residential zoning rules failed to account for this immutable fact.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
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11.15.08 - 3:01 pm | #
We are under a tornado warning here in Allentown, PA. Temperature is 69 degrees and with the humidity feels alot warmer.
PA trooper |
11.15.08 - 3:01 pm | #
Hard to imagine my house burning down. Furniture/stuff, not so much, but a lot of things with sentimental value I'd hate to lose. Good thoughts going to Sallyh and other Californians.
mer |
11.15.08 - 3:01 pm | #
I'd rather see another video of the CAT IN A BOX.
Brooklyn Girl, back home | 11.15.08 - 2:54 pm | #
I love that cat. Just happy as can be, running into boxes, with no idea that it's an internet sensation.
Buckeye .... |
11.15.08 - 3:01 pm | #
Has Mike Davis made any comments on this fire?
montanaheadcold |
11.15.08 - 3:01 pm | #
Barney Frank counts for six Goopers.
R. McGeddon | 11.15.08 - 3:01 pm | #
Some Goopers can barely count to six, so that's good.
Brooklyn Girl, back home |
11.15.08 - 3:01 pm | #
gentle, loving, monogamous, freedom-loving homosexuals graciously accept the democratically-expressed approval of Prop 8:
"The backlash after Tuesday's vote has been enormous and wide-reaching. People and businesses have become targets of blacklists and boycotts. Two temples of the Mormon church, which advocated for the marriage ban, received letters containing a white powder, though the FBI determined the substance was not toxic and do not know who sent them...."
These are some big-ass McMansions ablaze in Yorba Linda.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 3:02 pm | #
I love that cat. Just happy as can be, running into boxes, with no idea that it's an internet sensation.
Buckeye .... | 11.15.08 - 3:01 pm | #
He's a great cat.
Brooklyn Girl, back home |
11.15.08 - 3:02 pm | #
I love how the cat just flops down, rear legs splayed.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:02 pm | #
Homes built on eroding hillside and in firestick country are not.
Sounds wise -- except that ALL of California is "firestick country." The only reason the flatland doesn't usually burn is that it is completely built over and watered to the max. Where it is not -- farther away from the major cities -- it regularly burns, too.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 3:03 pm | #
I love that cat. Just happy as can be, running into boxes, with no idea that it's an internet sensation.
Buckeye
Whereas my cat would have an agent, a lawyer, a personal assistant, and a publicist.
(As it is, she has a personal assistant / doorman.)
jac |
11.15.08 - 3:03 pm | #
They will make us come together.
Gomez | 11.15.08 - 3:00 pm | #
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for some people, junior high school is not just a phase.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 3:04 pm | #
BARACK OBAMA IN SHORTS
it's only fair.
dirk gently
Those pecs are fake.
jac | 11.15.08 - 2:51 pm | #
Looks like his head was imposed on another man's body.
And Palin was a fucking beauty queen. She'd better have great legs. Ogle her if you must ... just keep her out of public office, please.
Brooklyn Girl, back home | 11.15.08 - 2:57 pm | #
Building 10,000 sq. ft. palaces on top of them does tend to speed the process, though.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:04 pm | #
read differently, Atrios' chart says how many Dems think it is worth their time to go on a Sunday talk show.
nitPicker |
11.15.08 - 3:04 pm | #
Too bad the residential zoning rules failed to account for this immutable fact.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office
No one could have anticipated building houses on fire-prone hills could have lead to fire-prone houses.
Most new houses have a lot of fire-code requirements, like no wood-shingle roofs, brush clearance, stucco-siding, etc., but there they are on my teebee screen, all ablaze.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 3:04 pm | #
Whereas my cat would have an agent, a lawyer, a personal assistant, and a publicist.
jac
. . . and they would pay her.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
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11.15.08 - 3:04 pm | #
Lubyanka | 11.15.08 - 3:02 pm | #
And if someone made it illegal for you to get married, how would you take it?
Of course, that's merely a hypothetical, since no sentient mammal would get within 100 feet of you.
Brooklyn Girl, back home |
11.15.08 - 3:04 pm | #
Well, that was quite some rainstorm. Almost an inch in about 20 minutes. Lots of wind.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.15.08 - 3:06 pm | #
Thanks for '08 Loseryanker!
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 3:06 pm | #
for some people, junior high school is not just a phase.
rootless-e, mooslamisist
Every region has its catastrophic natural disasters, is all I'm saying. Not everyone wants to live in the same place.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:06 pm | #
gays put on stylish brown shirts, try to harrass, silence, intimidate political opponents....
read differently, Atrios' chart says how many Dems think it is worth their time to go on a Sunday talk show.
I don't think so. They'd go on if they were invited. Exposure is like oxygen to politicians. The networks don't want liberals on and they're not even trying to pretend to be "fair and balanced." No wonder the fairness doctrine scares the poop out of them.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.15.08 - 3:08 pm | #
I saw a tile-roofed McMansion ablaze in Yorba Linda.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:08 pm | #
Well, that was quite some rainstorm. Almost an inch in about 20 minutes. Lots of wind.
Hecate
That sounds like what we had overnight. Woke up some time during the night and it was pouring.
Lubyanka got beat up buy a gay as a teen.
BedBug |
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11.15.08 - 3:09 pm | #
Worries Luby that gays and their friends might start fighting back. That's good; it should worry him because that's what we're doing and that's what we're going to do.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.15.08 - 3:09 pm | #
Minnesota was the site of one of the worst forest fires ever recorded in US history -- early to mid-19th century with around 300 dead IIRC.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 3:09 pm | #
Church going Mormons put on suits and frocks and vote away other peoples' right to be equal.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:10 pm | #
I'm thrilled that gays are standing up for their civil rights after all these years of waiting for things to turn around. It disgusts me that a couple down the street from me who have been together for 15 years and are excellent citizens and neighbors are denied the right I have to marry.
TEBB, still employed |
11.15.08 - 3:10 pm | #
Mansions I don't give a crap about, but those 500 mobile homes in Sylmar
is tragic.
Last thing our country needs |
11.15.08 - 3:10 pm | #
Every region has its catastrophic natural disasters, is all I'm saying. Not everyone wants to live in the same place.
Really? I thought that we all lived in Manhattan.
And NYC only sees bad weather when Morgan Freeman is president.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:10 pm | #
Church going Mormons put on suits and frocks and vote away other peoples' right to be equal.
plantsman | 11.15.08 - 3:10 pm | #
They want to play in the legislative arena? Fine.
Time for them to lose their tax-exempt status.
Brooklyn Girl, back home |
11.15.08 - 3:11 pm | #
I saw a tile-roofed McMansion ablaze in Yorba Linda.
plantsman
I read that a lot of these home fires start because a large ember gets inside of the house through an open garage door, or an attic vent opening on the side of the house, or through a broken window.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 3:11 pm | #
NYC saw a tornado not long ago.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:11 pm | #
plantsman,
I have some potted gardenias that I brought inside for the winter. Some of the leaves are turning yellow, even though I haven't watered. Is it insufficient light?
Also can I prune them now or should I wait until Spring?
Absolutely. And they own a lot of property. Taxing it would help w deficits. I have to make political donations w after-tax dollars. Why shouldn't they?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.15.08 - 3:12 pm | #
NYC saw a tornado not long ago.
plantsman | 11.15.08 - 3:11 pm | #
A teeny one.
Our worst natural messes are snow-related. Our worst disasters are human-related.
Brooklyn Girl, back home |
11.15.08 - 3:12 pm | #
The Nation fully and completely commits to the full funding of the American Navy.
Le Jackel |
11.15.08 - 3:13 pm | #
I worry for the California Condors.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
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11.15.08 - 3:14 pm | #
Ruh roh. Power lines bringing electricity into LA from the north have been de-energized. Officials asking residents to conserve electricity.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 3:14 pm | #
They control the weather!!
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:15 pm | #
Insufficient light could be the problem. Putting them inside in a heated space could be difficult for them to cope with. An unheated covered porch-like space might be better -- and really cut back on the moisture, but don't let them dry completely out.
Pruning now would only increase stress, I'd wait until you're ready to put them back outside.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:15 pm | #
Yeah...north-central part of the state. 1894.
Thanks for the correction. Thought it was earlier than 1894, but it's been almost twenty years since I read about it.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 3:15 pm | #
I worry for the California Condors.
They're mostly in NE Ventura County.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 3:17 pm | #
Excluding Pickens and Turner as neutral, that's 10 Republicans out of 13 total guests. That's just large enough to reject a hypothesis of random selection with 95% confidence. And that's just in one Sunday afternoon.
D2 |
11.15.08 - 3:17 pm | #
Putting them inside in a heated space could be difficult for them to cope with. An unheated covered porch-like space might be better -- and really cut back on the moisture, but don't let them dry completely out.
Pruning now would only increase stress, I'd wait until you're ready to put them back outside.
I have a covered screen porch, but it can get below freezing there; would that be ok?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.15.08 - 3:18 pm | #
We have a California Condor Hatchery in Oregon.
Fledglings are moved to California.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:18 pm | #
DC-10 flying in to drop flame retardant phoscheck (sp?) in the fire area. Cool sight!
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 3:19 pm | #
Yes, just keeping frost and stuff from landing on them makes a huge difference. if it gets really cold, toss a cotton sheet over them.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:19 pm | #
Let's review the situation:
Chinese bankers took out promisory notes based upon the declaration that Americans held in excess of one-trillion dollars in a trust fund
the Sioux Nation, which is the payee of that trust fund demures
exactly how fucked are you, baby
Le Jackel |
11.15.08 - 3:20 pm | #
Yes, just keeping frost and stuff from landing on them makes a huge difference. if it gets really cold, toss a cotton sheet over them.
Thanks, plantsman! I'll give it a try.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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11.15.08 - 3:21 pm | #
Wait...everyone knows about HAARP, right?
They control the weather!!
AndyMN | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 3:15 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
It can create mass hallucinations, too!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 3:21 pm | #
While correlation is not causation,
a) goppers dominate cable talk and sunday talk shows
b) goppers are losing elections everywhere
nitPicker |
11.15.08 - 3:21 pm | #
We need Barry from AK to explain to us what an amazing thing it is for a pilot to fly a DC-10 as low and slow as this pilot is.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 3:22 pm | #
Gorgeous, sunny weather in the upper 70s in the SF Bay Area this weekend.
If someone lights the place on fire I am going to be seriously pissed.
Buzz Bomb |
11.15.08 - 3:22 pm | #
I don't wanna compare fires with bodies. Let's look at the amount of land they tend to consume.
There was a massive fire up in the Boundary Waters a few years back. Didn't kill a soul, but made a huge tourist spot inhabitable for a long time.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:22 pm | #
The Oakland/Berkeley Hills Fire was about this time of year. It was an awful day.
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:23 pm | #
It can create mass hallucinations, too!
We call it the "Art Linkletter's Daughter" effect.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:23 pm | #
gays stamping their pitty-pat feet!
Lubyanka
Using the expression "pitty-pat" sounds, mmm, I don't know...kinda gay.
Buzz Bomb |
11.15.08 - 3:24 pm | #
For the 2008 season, the assignments are:
Intraconference
* AFC East vs. AFC West
* AFC North vs. AFC South
* NFC East vs. NFC West
* NFC North vs. NFC South
Interconference
* AFC East vs. NFC West
* AFC North vs. NFC East
* AFC South vs. NFC North
* AFC West vs. NFC South
jss |
11.15.08 - 3:24 pm | #
Back later, Moonbats. Pics of an amazing protest today in DC at my homepage.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:24 pm | #
While correlation is not causation,
a) goppers dominate cable talk and sunday talk shows
b) goppers are losing elections everywhere
nitPicker | 11.15.08 - 3:21 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
This is something I was trying to explain to a libertarian acquaintance of mine who kept saying that the GOP could destroy Obama by saying X, Y and Z: When people hate you, they're not that interested in what you have to say. Even if you wanted to assume for the sake of argument that these assholes have anything worthwhile to say, the fact that its these assholes saying it seems to be turning a lot of Americans off.
It's almost like people are sick of their bad faith and their posturing.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 3:25 pm | #
The solution is simple and all-too-obvious: if the networks mostly only interview Republicans, DON'T WATCH THEM! Don't watch this crap, and let the ratings fall. Just go away, take a walk, do something else. Don't watch the freaking teevee. Forget about it.
I am so sick of people bitching about who's on and who's not on. YOU'RE WATCHING, RIGHT? Which means you're a counted viewer advertisers will pay to reach. Under the circumstances, complaining about who's on is like shooting yourself in the head and complaining about how much it hurts.
Gah!!!
Juan del Llano |
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11.15.08 - 3:25 pm | #
What Toonscribe said. What makes this Sylmar fire shocking to me is -where- it is - on the flatland, not a speck of chaparral within 20 miles, streets all macadam and concrete, no shake shingle roofs, in short - the most urban possible suburbia. If there are ficus or iceplant, that's about it for the foliage, maybe some ivy. This isn't a forest fire, it's not a brush fire - it's a city, street fire. The fuel is houses.
I am very grateful Sallyh, unlike others, listened to her best instincts as a Californian and fled.
And the results of the fire? NWS has issued HIGH POLLUTION ADVISORY FOR PINAL COUNTY TODAY Valid
Until: 8:00PM MST, Saturday Nov 15, 2008
Dammit! Emmylou is in town tonight or Prairie Home Companion. Anyone got 40 bucks to spare for a ticket??
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11.15.08 - 3:25 pm | #
Let's look at the bright side.
The more the Mainstream Media panders to the 23%, the less influence and importance they have.
People who want real news have options: the blogs, the small independent papers, and sources outside the US. It's terrible that we have such lousy press at home, but perhaps the market is producing alternatives.
I have said often enough to become infamous for it that I don't think any newspapers apart from a handful will survive five years (the WSJ, the NYT, maybe the LAT, probably the WaPo but perhaps not; certainly NOT the Chicago Tribune, and I'm very sorry abuot that). And why? Because they've done a simply terrible job informing people.
The writing was on the wall in Chicago when the City News Bureau shut down about nine years ago. Independent, actual reporters' group covering local events. Now dead, because of "costs".
Their alumni included Mike Royko, Seymour Hersh, Herman Kogan, Kurt Vonnegut and the playright Charles MacArthur, whose play The Front Page showed people what the paper business was really like.
Our worst natural messes are snow-related. Our worst disasters are human-related.
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To be fair, the human to nature ratio is higher in NYC than elsewhere.
The Oakland/Berkeley Hills Fire was about this time of year. It was an awful day.
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I remember coming out of my apartment that morning...everything was orange, and my shadow was about a foot tall (and also orange). Very creepy until I realize what was happening, and still pretty creepy afterwards, too.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 3:27 pm | #
They want to play in the legislative arena? Fine.
Time for them to lose their tax-exempt status.
Brooklyn Girl, back home
I think the "voting for Obama is a mortal sin" Catholis church should be looked at real hard.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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11.15.08 - 3:27 pm | #
It's almost like people are sick of their bad faith and their posturing.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
I"m sure as hell sick of it!
bill |
11.15.08 - 3:27 pm | #
But the winds are blowing westward from the fire Areas, how are they getting to Arizona?
plantsman |
11.15.08 - 3:27 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Bye Bye Shrillary
chairman mao |
11.15.08 - 3:27 pm | #
Hello I am chatting with a support robot from Lexmark. God save me.
Halfdan |
11.15.08 - 3:28 pm | #
if the networks mostly only interview Republicans, DON'T WATCH THEM!
I don't. I have CoT to do it for me.
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11.15.08 - 3:28 pm | #
Hey, AndyMN, it won't be the same as being there, but surely you can listen on the wireless...
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 3:28 pm | #
Bye Bye Shrillary
Is it April again? Who killed Vince Foster???
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:28 pm | #
Hello I am chatting with a support robot from Lexmark. God save me.
Halfdan
"Is it plugged in?"
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11.15.08 - 3:29 pm | #
I am so sick of people bitching about who's on and who's not on. YOU'RE WATCHING, RIGHT? Which means you're a counted viewer advertisers will pay to reach. Under the circumstances, complaining about who's on is like shooting yourself in the head and complaining about how much it hurts.
The flip side of this is that, generally, people do watch television to get the news, because the highest percentage of people in this country are television watchers, not newspaper readers.
What I do (haven't had television for eleven years) doesn't change the fact that what news is available is distorted by a heavy weighting to the conservative side of the scales.
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11.15.08 - 3:29 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
You did vote for McCain.
Buzz Bomb |
11.15.08 - 3:29 pm | #
Time for them to lose their tax-exempt status.
Brooklyn Girl, back home
Henry VIII where are you?
bill |
11.15.08 - 3:29 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
chairman mao |
11.15.08 - 3:30 pm | #
ho ho ho. mebbe this is already out, but lil tommy friedman's billionaire wifey is now...just a regular old millionaire. seems they had too much GM stock or something, and her portfolio has lost 99% of its value over the last year. gosh, tommy. i hope you can still afford that 12Ksqft mansion in bethesda and all those trips along various coasts. perhaps you could take up a collection plate. in iraq.
good afternoon.
chicago dyke, dove |
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11.15.08 - 3:30 pm | #
Yeah, David...we're home to Mr. Keillor's empire. I can listen on MN Public Radio.
But the broadcast is originating from literally down the street. It would be neat to see her in-person.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:30 pm | #
I am so sick of people bitching about who's on and who's not on. YOU'RE WATCHING, RIGHT? Which means you're a counted viewer advertisers will pay to reach. Under the circumstances, complaining about who's on is like shooting yourself in the head and complaining about how much it hurts.
I guess you've never heard of activism? 'Cause another option is to take note of who's on and who's not on, and complain about it publicly, and pressure the networks to do something about it, which is really not all that hard and sometimes get results, as the last 30 years should prove to anyone who's paying attention.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 3:31 pm | #
I think the "voting for Obama is a mortal sin" Catholis church should be looked at real hard.
Lumpenprolitariot | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 3:27 pm | #
Yeah. Them, too.
Brooklyn Girl, back home |
11.15.08 - 3:31 pm | #
Thomas Friedman is now "sucking on this."
Buzz Bomb |
11.15.08 - 3:31 pm | #
Goddamn, Hecate, that's a wonderful thing you've got up at your blog about the veterans wanting Bush and Cheney prosecuted, with a banner to that effect at the Archives.
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 3:32 pm | #
The panels on these shows are balanced by panels of liberal journalists.
aldon |
11.15.08 - 3:33 pm | #
plantsman, I've never known Santa Ana winds to blow from any one direction for more than two seconds.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.15.08 - 3:33 pm | #
I understand, O AndyMN. Besides, Emmylou's exterior beauty does not translate so readily to the wireless...
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 3:33 pm | #
Time for them to lose their tax-exempt status.
Brooklyn Girl, back home
How can we make this actually happen? Because it never does, and is never even seriously proposed, no matter how egregious a given church's political activity. Taxing religion seems to be like "fixing" Social Security, a political third rail that no one will touch.
Buzz Bomb |
11.15.08 - 3:33 pm | #
Comment by chairman mao blocked. [unkill][show comment]
That was easy. And kind of satisfying.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 3:34 pm | #
Emmylou's exterior beauty does not translate so readily to the wireless.
I've got the album Luxury Liner on my iPod, and listen to it quite frequently.
Even the compressed, computerized version of Emmylou doesn't do her justice. She's truly a gift to the ears.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:36 pm | #
Brian Williams is on the cover of this month's AARP magazine.
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11.15.08 - 3:36 pm | #
She's truly a gift to the ears.
AndyMN
And also the eyes.
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 3:36 pm | #
Man, I missed "classic troll" hat. Very retro.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:37 pm | #
I don't think these sunday shows are ratings driven. They're of the village, by the village and for the village. It's like local cable access but with better production values.
As for panels of liberal reporters do you mean George Will, Cokie Roberts, David Brooks and David Gergen? Or do you mean Brokaw, Greenspan, Gregory and Schiefer. I defy you to pick a democrat from that bunch. One. Not a majority. One.
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11.15.08 - 3:37 pm | #
Hi hat!
Thanks for November 4, 2008, buddy!
Buzz Bomb |
11.15.08 - 3:37 pm | #
And also the eyes.
Goes without saying, my friend.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:38 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
chairman mao |
11.15.08 - 3:38 pm | #
had my niece round this weekend
she finally got to try on the belly dancing costume we got for her from Egypt
she is the picture of an Eastern princess, I haz photos - Seity J
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 3:38 pm | #
Well, shit-in-yer-hat, our guys won!
It's our turn now. Period.
Don't like it, lump it.
montag |
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11.15.08 - 3:38 pm | #
chi d - what were you doing up so early today? i looked at the bunny post and saw you commented on that.
what kind of bunny was that? it was extremely cute, and for a dog person to say that is something significant.
TEBB, still employed |
11.15.08 - 3:38 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk. It is 3AM.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
chairman mao |
11.15.08 - 3:40 pm | #
OK, this is more wishful thinking than anything else, but:
With luck, the 2010 election results will make the GOP long for the comparatively bloodless 2008 returns.
We know things are bad, and likely to get worse. But if President Obama and the mostly Democratic Congress can actually make things better in the next two years, why wouldn't the country return an even bigger Democratic majority to Congress?
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 3:40 pm | #
Please unplug it. Now, plug it in again. Has this solved the problem?
'Cause another option is to take note of who's on and who's not on, and complain about it publicly, and pressure the networks to do something about it, which is really not all that hard and sometimes get results,
results? like what? fining the network that showed janet jackson's boob? sure. but for blatant political bias? correct me here as i think you're saying i'm wrong, but when has that happened in the last, say, 25 years? for other than for being "too liberal," such as when the Diane Rheem show "corrected" itself after being the target of rush limpballs/winger mass emailing/phoning to the CPB entity and they directed her to include more rethugs. she did. that's happened to an overly conservative program...when, again?
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11.15.08 - 3:41 pm | #
Hey Barry, what do you think are the best and worst major airlines? Curious what an actual pilot has to say on the matter....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 3:41 pm | #
Does any sane person want Shrillary as SOS.
Please speak now
chairman mao |
11.15.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Please unplug it. Now, plug it in again. Has this solved the problem?
Unfortunately no. But thanks!
Halfdan
OK, now, you see that panel on top? Open that. Are there ink cartridges in the printer?
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
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11.15.08 - 3:42 pm | #
Heidi is curled up beside me on Chez Moonbootica's new sofa
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 3:42 pm | #
How can we make this actually happen? Because it never does, and is never even seriously proposed, no matter how egregious a given church's political activity. Taxing religion seems to be like "fixing" Social Security, a political third rail that no one will touch.
Buzz Bomb
I think a serious shot across their bow would shut a lot of them up. They have a lot to lose.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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11.15.08 - 3:43 pm | #
Most corrupt political couple ever seen...
Most notorious for that budget surplus thing....
dusty c. |
11.15.08 - 3:43 pm | #
Arthur M. Blank (born September 27, 1942, in Sunnyside, New York) is an American businessman and a co-founder of Home Depot. Today he is known for his philanthropy and his ownership of the Atlanta Falcons team in the National Football League and the Georgia Force team in the Arena Football League.
wynn |
11.15.08 - 3:43 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk. Remember the 3 AM ad.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
chairman mao ze dong |
11.15.08 - 3:43 pm | #
when, again?
chicago dyke, dove | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 3:41 pm | # [kill]
fy is back I see
Buzz Bomb |
11.15.08 - 3:44 pm | #
President Nicolas Sarkozy of France joined Russia in condemning the Pentagon's plans to install missile defence bases in central Europe yesterday and backed President Dmitri Medvedev's previously ignored calls for a new pan-European security pact.
Both presidents concluded a Russia-EU summit, in Nice in the south of France, with an agreement to convene a major international conference next summer at which the Americans, Russians and the 27 countries of the EU should come up with a blueprint for new post-cold war "security architecture" in Europe.
The call for such a pact has been Medvedev's central foreign policy message since he succeeded Vladimir Putin as president earlier this year. Medvedev has called for the new deal in several keynote speeches but has been snubbed by western leaders until Sarkozy delivered a characteristic surprise yesterday, appearing to hijack the subject.
Sarkozy said: "We could meet in mid-2009 to lay the foundations of what could possibly be a future pan-European security system."
7 Appearances by Republican current elected officeholders
3 Appearances by Democratic current elected officeholders.
2 Appearances by Republican former elected officeholders.
1 Appearance by a Bush Cabinet Secretary.
T. Boone Pickens
Ted Turner.
And a partridge in a pear tree.
Monica_A: Killfiled |
11.15.08 - 3:44 pm | #
chairman mao needs to chill out with a flight on Lin Biao Airlines.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 3:45 pm | #
Hey Barry, what do you think are the best and worst major airlines? Curious what an actual pilot has to say on the matter....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Best/worst at what? Hee, lots of variables in that.
From a passenger best standpoint, nothing beats Singapore, nothing.
Worst... almost anything in Africa, unless ya wanna count RyanAir from Ireland.
From a pilot perspective, my airline, but only when I'm Captain on the particular flight.
Worst from a pilot perspective... any US carrier with a crew on their first international flight, arrogant assholes.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 3:45 pm | #
If we'd only elected the team of Ralph Nader and his ego...
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 3:45 pm | #
been out & about the past few hrs. did our SoCal Atriot (Sally?) get the f--- out of her house okay?
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11.15.08 - 3:45 pm | #
Steve Bisciotti (born April 10, 1960), is the current majority owner of the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League.
Steve Bisciotti came from a working-class family in a Baltimore suburb.
In 1982, Bisciotti graduated from Salisbury University in Maryland with a degree in liberal arts. A year later, at 23, he and his cousin Jim Davis started Aerotek, a staffing company in the aerospace and technology sectors. Running the company out of a basement office with secondhand equipment, Bisciotti and Davis produced $1.5 million in sales in the first year. Aerotek grew into the Allegis Group, which is now the largest privately held staffing firm in the United States and 6th in the world.
wynn |
11.15.08 - 3:45 pm | #
If you're from the Great White North:
7 Appearances by Republican current elected officeholders
3 Appearances by Democratic current elected officeholders.
2 Appearances by Republican former elected officeholders.
1 Appearance by a Bush Cabinet Secretary.
T. Boone Pickens
Ted Turner.
And a beer!
Monica_A: Killfiled |
11.15.08 - 3:46 pm | #
TEEB: i'm a morning person. i don't always hop on a blog first thing, but i'm normally awake by 5am each and every morning. it sucks. but hey, it's a part of getting older, or something.
How can we make this actually happen? Because it never does, and is never even seriously proposed, no matter how egregious a given church's political activity.
iirc the quakers and the UUs have both received attention from the IRS over the last 8 years for "overly political" activity. iirc there was a UU church in TX that had some real problems, for protesting the war. cause, you know, jeebus loved war and killing.
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11.15.08 - 3:46 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
mao ze dong |
11.15.08 - 3:47 pm | #
mofo She, hubby and cats are out and holed up somewhere safe.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
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11.15.08 - 3:47 pm | #
And a beer!
Monica_A: Killfiled | 11.15.08 - 3:46 pm | #
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Lol. Cheers!
OT: they write - On the cover of the Guardian, a photo of Prince Charles in his finery. The cover of G2 is devoted to Ronan Bennett's recall of the abolition of the monarchy in 1649. It should be added that next month marks the 400th anniversary of the birth of John Milton, the great Christian opponent of monarchy.
I am a republican. As a socialist, I see no justification for a monarchy which is the apex of the British class and inequality system. Yet no MPs and almost no public figures have the courage to campaign for a democratic republic. We need not New Labour but the New Levellers.
Bob Holman
Glasgow
I was totally blown away that NTodd was blown away by Nights in White Satin.Here is one for NTodd.
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11.15.08 - 3:47 pm | #
iirc there was a UU church in TX that had some real problems, for protesting the war. cause, you know, jeebus loved war and killing.
There was an Episcopal church in Pasadena the IRS was going after because of their anti-war stance. Don't recall if the case has been resolved.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 3:48 pm | #
And a beer!
Monica_A: Killfiled
Thanks for the idea, I'll order up some right now!
Where are my pants?
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 3:48 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seenIf I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
comrade mao |
11.15.08 - 3:48 pm | #
good to hear; not criticizing cuz I empathize but her deliberative explorations were making me nervous.
mofo |
11.15.08 - 3:48 pm | #
Best/worst at what? Hee, lots of variables in that.
Oh, I just meant overall, I guess. For domestic flights.
Haven't flown on Jet Blue yet, though people seem to like them.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 3:49 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
comrade mao ze dong |
11.15.08 - 3:49 pm | #
Randolph D. Lerner 'Legend' (born February 21, 1962, in Brooklyn, New York) is an American entrepreneur and sports team owner.
Lerner has been the owner of the American football team, the Cleveland Browns, of the National Football League (NFL).
Lerner's business career began at the Progressive Corporation as an investment analyst. In 1991, he started an independent investment firm with Progressive capital called Securities Advisors, Inc. (SAI), which he owned and managed until 2001. SAI initially specialized in arbitrage before shifting its focus to equity investing.
In 1993, Lerner became a director at MBNA, a company in which his father was founder and builder, and continued to lead until his father's death at which time he became company chairman.
wynn |
11.15.08 - 3:49 pm | #
MSNBC, by taking on the voice of the hostile opposition, finally gained traction during the 2008 campaign after being, in the words of its president, Phil Griffin, “out of the discussion” for its entire previous history. But it now faces the prospect of changing into the clothes of the administration’s ardent defender.
At the same time Fox News, which had been the most significant media supporter of the Bush administration, is now expected to revert to the position it held when it first broke through during the Clinton years: the aggressive voice of the opposition.
This was in the NYT today. And describing MSNBC is partisan if you limit your ratings to Maddow and Olbermann. Apparently the ever-more-odious Scarborough and the ubiqitous Buchanan don't count as partisans.
Editoress, on LI |
11.15.08 - 3:50 pm | #
Wow, some tiresome trolls here today.
Ali, vodka agenda |
11.15.08 - 3:50 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!++
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
comrade*mao ze dong |
11.15.08 - 3:50 pm | #
If I understand Juan and ChiDyke correctly, Media Matters should stop wasting their time, yes?
Better to ignore what William Kristol says, than to take two minutes to pressure the NYT to issue a retraction or correction.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 3:51 pm | #
Off to do fun things with Ouzo. The weather in South Jersey is not great. I believe there's a tornado watch.
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk, and the 3 AM ad
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
comrade*mao ze *dong |
11.15.08 - 3:52 pm | #
Wow, some tiresome trolls here today.
Ali, vodka agenda
There are trolls?
HERE?
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11.15.08 - 3:52 pm | #
From JMM The Times explains that if Barack Obama, after taking office, decides to release information from his predecessor's tenure, Bush could file a lawsuit claiming executive privilege. The dispute would likely go to the Supreme Court, and there appears to be little precedent that would guide a ruling.
How exactly does a former president have any standing on the issue of public documents?
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 3:52 pm | #
The Green Bay Packers Board of Directors is the organization that serves as the owner for the Green Bay Packers football club. The Packers have been a publicly owned, non-profit corporation since August 18, 1923. The corporation currently has 111,921 stockholders, who collectively own 4,749,925 shares of stock. There have been four stock sales, in 1923, 1935, 1950 and 1997. Shares in 1923 sold for $5 apiece, while in 1997 the shares were issued at $200 each.
wynn |
11.15.08 - 3:52 pm | #
There was an Episcopal church in Pasadena the IRS was going after
because of their anti-war stance. Don't recall if the case has been
resolved.
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
comrade*mao ze *dong |
11.15.08 - 3:52 pm | #
damn, our football history troll is back. hey, "list" or whatever you're calling yourself today: we still don't care, nor want to read your football cut and paste, yo? i thought we chased you away the last time.
Ask Spocko.
Phila,
not to seem bitchy or anything, but you made the claim. to what did you refer? and how does it prove your thesis that bitching about teevee product that is pro-winger can 'make a difference?' that's all i'm asking, respectfully. i don't think it ever does, or if it does, it's hardly noticable in the overall scheme of teevee "news/opinion" product. the imbalance atrios mentions isn't going to go away until...well, perhaps never. not to take sides with the troll, but i am firmly in the camp of "turn it off, don't pay for it" as i think that's pretty much the only way we can have "an impact." the part where you say publically complaining to the networks "makes a difference" over the last few decades is the part i really don't agree with.
chicago dyke, dove |
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11.15.08 - 3:53 pm | #
OT: French politics -
It is an improbable saga featuring a celebrity break-up, back-stabbing, a Joan of Arc figure and a dangerously popular postman. Members of the bitterly divided French Socialist party gathered last night in the champagne capital of Reims to find a new leader to reverse their misfortunes and provide an opposition to president Nicolas Sarkozy.
As delegates browsed souvenir shops offering François Mitterrand and Che Guevara bookmarks, and neon jackets that boasted: "I drive on the right by obligation, but vote left by conviction," a mood of frustration hung over the party.
Ségolène Royal, the outsider who styled herself as a modern Joan of Arc during her failed presidential campaign against Sarkozy, has surprised party critics in the party by emerging as frontrunner in the leadership vote next Thursday. But Royal does not have the backing of a clear majority - the woman who once declared "You should love each other!" to a party rally is now at the mercy of party hatreds and intrigue.
According to complicated party rules, leading Socialists will spend tonight - dubbed "the night of the long daggers" - in negotiations on whether to back Royal or form alliances to stop her. All candidates will declare themselves this weekend before next week's vote.
Royal, 55, has vowed to modernise the party and promote the next generation. She said this week: "I am not a woman of the political machine. I prefer contact with the people."
She has veered left during the global financial crisis, suggesting heads of failed banks should be barred from working in finance and big oil companies should have their profits taxed in order to save struggling businesses. But she supports leaving a door open to alliances with French centrists, and critics accuse her of blowing left and right with the weather.
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!5
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
comrade*mao* ze *dong |
11.15.08 - 3:53 pm | #
Wow, some tiresome trolls here today. Ali
But... it was my only line! [runs crying from room]
JeffCO |
11.15.08 - 3:53 pm | #
LA Fire update @ 12:46 PST
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CURRENT SIZE: 6500 Acres (estimate).
CURRENT CONDITIONS: 10% Containment. Active wildfire with extreme fire behavior due to strong and erratic winds. Flames being pushed west toward the former Sesnon Fire burn area.
STRUCTURES THREATENED: Yes - 1000.
STRUCTURES DESTROYED: 6 Damage Assessment Teams are tabulating structures destroyed.
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bo |
11.15.08 - 3:54 pm | #
There are trolls?
HERE?
V for Virginia, YES WE DID!
The latest is the job may be down all day. some people were saying they were able to do initial metaframe login but either (1) froze up at the Citrix load or (2) at the project login page.
Keep the knitting handy.
Xan |
11.15.08 - 3:54 pm | #
But... it was my only line! [runs crying from room]
JeffCO |
I did not know that. IMHO, more churches like that would be a good thing.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 3:55 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen.
comrade*mao* ze *dong QiLai |
11.15.08 - 3:55 pm | #
shorter wynn, adapted to local circumstances:
Wayne Huizenga owns the Fins; soon to sell majority share to U Mich benefactor Steven Ross, allegedly, in part, to avoid Obama's reign of socialism. Huzienga is a right-wing dick & serious putz. Basically loathed by most fans here, despite largesse w/ football $$, cause he busted up 1997 Marlins.
mofo |
11.15.08 - 3:55 pm | #
Flames being pushed west toward the former Sesnon Fire burn area.
Where is that, if you can give me some guidelines?
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:55 pm | #
Wow, some tiresome trolls here today.
Ali, vodka agenda
Yeah, but wouldn't you rather be us than him?
If the best use he has for a Saturday afternoon is scroll-trolling under a constantly shifting name...jeez, what greater punishment could you wish on him?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:56 pm | #
We're out in Claremont, which gets us far enough away from the wind and smoke. We are in the process of detraumatizing the animals. Cats have gone to sleep, dog has settled down. We're about to scope out some lunch.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.15.08 - 3:56 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!
comrade*mao ze dong QiLai |
11.15.08 - 3:56 pm | #
Haven't flown on Jet Blue yet, though people seem to like them.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
People like cheap, what can ya say?
US airlines, the whole lot of em suck.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:56 pm | #
Down with Oliver Cromwell.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
The latest is the job may be down all day. some people were saying they were able to do initial metaframe login but either (1) froze up at the Citrix load or (2) at the project login page.
Keep the knitting handy.
Xan
My shift ended at 3. I tried to log in a couple more times, because we're obviously gonna be waaaaaaay behind, but still couldn't get anywhere.
Where are you getting these updates?
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
Is sadly,no! not accessible for everyone right now? Some funky error I'm getting.
Greenhouse Guy |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
WTF is going on here?? Has Neil Cavuto been preempted?
mofo |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
If I understand Juan and ChiDyke correctly, Media Matters should stop wasting their time, yes?
i never said that. gosh. i guess it's time for me to check out and go nap with vicki. just trying to have an honest conversation with you, bro. sorry to be a bother. later.
chicago dyke, dove |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
Mayor Villagarosa is reporting the fire has covered more than 6500 acres so far. Still evacuated, asking people not return until cleared. Basically every cop and firefighter south of Solvang is on scene. State's declared a 'state of emergency' for all of LA County. About 10,000 have been evacuated. Power's on, but they're trying to minimise it, along with water usage. Shelters are still available - big animal evacuation location is at Pierce College.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
Heh - good line from Wait Wait: the title of Bush's Presidential memoirs - "A Series of Unfortunate Events."
JeffCO |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
the part where you say publically complaining to the networks "makes a difference" over the last few decades is the part i really don't agree with.
chicago dyke, dove | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 3:53 pm | # [kill]
Funny. I noticed a distinct rightward drift.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
When you put it that way Phila, yeah. It's very sad.
Ali, vodka agenda |
11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
Good, Sally!
I'm streaming KTLA.
Damn.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Flames being pushed west toward the former Sesnon Fire burn area.
That would be a good thing.
Halfdan |
11.15.08 - 3:58 pm | #
For the moment, I'll be smart ass and say the fire is east of the Sesnon burn area.
Back with a map and twitter hash.
bo |
11.15.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Good for you. Sallyh!
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
11.15.08 - 3:59 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!$
毛泽东 |
11.15.08 - 3:59 pm | #
Hurray for Claremont and Sallyh! Sallyh, why not, while you're there, see if Harvey Mudd can hire you? That way you wouldn't have to go back!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.15.08 - 3:59 pm | #
Back with a map and twitter hash.
bo
bo Twitters?
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 3:59 pm | #
know nothing about Villagarosa, but he looked purty smooth on the teevees today.
mofo |
11.15.08 - 3:59 pm | #
Flames being pushed west toward the former Sesnon Fire burn area.
Where is that, if you can give me some guidelines?
V for Virginia
Porter Ranch -- North of the 118 freeway, roughly where DeSoto Ave hits the 118, about halfway along the San Fernando Valley. At least if it hit the Sesnon burn area, the fuel is already gone.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 3:59 pm | #
I don't get what Hillary is doing sending SOS signals. Is a boat involved?
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:00 pm | #
plus he mentioned that he intended to attend & address Prop 8 protest n/w/s emergency situation.
mofo |
11.15.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Down with Oliver Cromwell.
rootless-e, mooslamisist | 11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | #
over here Channel 4 is airing a drama, The Devils Whore set in the time of Charles I and Cromwell
yep John Simm (of Life on Mars fame) is playing Oliver Cromwell
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Nope I just think the bios of NFL team owners are interesting.
Particularly Steve Bisciotti, who claims blue collar roots but somehow at age 23, out of nowhere, possessed the information, know how, and capital to start a multi-million dollar aerospace engineering staffing firm.
wynn |
11.15.08 - 4:00 pm | #
the title of Bush's Presidential memoirs - "A Series of Unfortunate Events."
JeffCO |
There are a dozen or so of those books. Not sure that would be enough to fully explore all the fuckups.
Ali, vodka agenda |
11.15.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Back with a map and twitter hash.
bo
Thanks, Bo
Was just looking at the google map of the evac areas and stuff, in comparison with Maison de la Poissonniere.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:00 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!_
毛泽东- the |
11.15.08 - 4:01 pm | #
And there's a second fire, near Corona. Riverside/Orange Counties.
bo |
11.15.08 - 4:01 pm | #
Toons, we got out of the area. We weren't evacuated, but Monsieur could barely breathe. We took 3 days' worth of clothing, just in case.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.15.08 - 4:01 pm | #
i never said that. gosh. i guess it's time for me to check out and go nap with vicki. just trying to have an honest conversation with you, bro. sorry to be a bother. later.
chicago dyke, dove | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 3:57 pm | # [kill]
Didn't say you said that. But it does seem to me to be implied, given your clear disbelief that "that bitching about teevee product that is pro-winger can 'make a difference.'"
i am firmly in the camp of "turn it off, don't pay for it" as i think that's pretty much the only way we can have "an impact."
Well, since I've turned it off and don't pay for it, I must agree. On the other hand, that doesn't mean that I can't take a moment or two to write networks or advertisers when a blogger, or a pressure group like MM, asks me to.
Not that fucking complicated, really.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:02 pm | #
That was just so cool....
Room service brought my beers, but couldn't provide a pack of smokes.
The guy who delivered the booze gave me some out of his pack.
Just have to hang on another 90 minutes till I can buy some.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:02 pm | #
Down with Oliver Cromwell.
That, and Ian Paisley, were two names that gave my da apoplexy.
I normally ensure that the Jeep is equipped for survival in hot weather/emergency scenarios. I think I'll re-kit it for general purpose issues.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.15.08 - 4:02 pm | #
Zev Yaroslavsky! U look so good! 20 years older than the last time I saw you, but really good!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.15.08 - 4:03 pm | #
How exactly does a former president have any standing on the issue of public documents?
rootless-e, mooslamisist
The executive privilege thing has been around for ex presidents since Truman but nobody has ever taken it to court. It looks pretty shaky according to Toobin.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Thanks, Toons. That gives me some stuff to obsess on.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Toons, we got out of the area. We weren't evacuated, but Monsieur could barely breathe. We took 3 days' worth of clothing, just in case.
So glad to hear you're safe and I hope Monsieur is breathing better. I'll keep my fingers crossed that your house stays safe.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Where are you getting these updates?
V for Virginia, YES WE DID
(raises trenchcoat collar, pulls fedora down over forehead to shade face)
Ve haff vays uf makeeng zem taalk....
(actually that workplacelikehome board I think I pointed you to way back when. The Westat forum turns out to have a live chat section, which we had never noticed until today. If you wade through the tedious whiners it's a good source of up to the minute news on the situation.)
Xan |
11.15.08 - 4:03 pm | #
AK Barry: watch out for the B-Girls (40ish noir reference), or you'll get Shanghaied
mofo |
11.15.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Seriously, am I the only fuck who prayed over by Morningpost, LA. Geez you are a bunch of worthless fucks.
Le Jackel |
11.15.08 - 4:04 pm | #
Support-text-bot fixed my problem. Hurray for support-text-bot!
Halfdan |
11.15.08 - 4:04 pm | #
a few years back i think the BBC ran a 'top British person contest' and Oliver Cromwell came in 9th or 10th
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:04 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
毛泽东 |
11.15.08 - 4:04 pm | #
OMG I want to cry as those people in live CNN video above scramble for their lives.
Tragic |
11.15.08 - 4:04 pm | #
毛泽东 | 11.15.08 - 4:04 pm
Get help, please.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:05 pm | #
AK Barry: watch out for the B-Girls (40ish noir reference), or you'll get Shanghaied
mofo
we call em hookers nowadays.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:05 pm | #
Dear Atrios,
If we don't show a lot of Republicans on TV during the weekend, conservatives will become very upset. It could even result in a very angry backlash. Does anybody want that?
Your Media |
11.15.08 - 4:06 pm | #
me and my dad are currently working our way thru S1 (I have brought S2 for him for Christmas)
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:06 pm | #
Get help, please.
Wow a shrillary fan.
Nothing crazier than that
Pumas forever
毛泽东 |
11.15.08 - 4:06 pm | #
Sallyh, I made you a nice Swedish brisket anyway. It's a good thing I like it.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
11.15.08 - 4:06 pm | #
its sad I know but i'm really looking forward to Christmas this yr
ok i know its not fashionable but i don't care
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:07 pm | #
Moonbootica,
The Wire is a fan-fucking-tastic show. You will really love it, come season 4. It gets better towards the end.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:07 pm | #
Afternoon peeps.
Computer repair people want $150. just to look at my puter and decide whether or not it needs a new keyboard.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.15.08 - 4:07 pm | #
i have the 29th December to the 5th Jan off
which i am looking forward too
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:07 pm | #
its sad I know but i'm really looking forward to Christmas this yr
ok i know its not fashionable but i don't care
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty
Xmas?
Im declaring war on it!
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:07 pm | #
re the Wire---I just saw Changeling---Beady-Bee, the Dock Cop in the Sobotka season who then goes to the PD, has a small but critical & well-acted part. Always glad to see the Wire-ers getting parts.
mofo |
11.15.08 - 4:07 pm | #
I'm flying into Burbank on Monday, and then driving up to Palmdale for a week of work.
From the link that was posted, those fires are far enough away from the Antelope Valley Freeway.
Alright. Having learned that bitching about what's on TV accomplishes precisely nothing, and that it's the height of insolence to suggest that this implies that MMFA is wasting its time, and that the right's calculated effort to force the media dramatically to the right over the last thirty years either never happened, or would obviously have happened regardless, I guess I've gotten enough edification for today. Maybe I'll go feed the ducks.
Good day, all.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:08 pm | #
a few years back i think the BBC ran a 'top British person contest' and Oliver Cromwell came in 9th or 10th
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 4:04 pm | #
Not in Irish voting.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:08 pm | #
How exactly does a former president have any standing on the issue of public documents?
IIRC, it goes back to a case that involved Truman after he left office, in which Truman asserted ex post facto executive privilege.
The SC hasn't yet taken the opportunity to rule on the matter.
The Presidential Records Act does complicate the matter, because it specifies that the papers need not be released for twelve years (although a President can release them at an earlier date, as Clinton did).
The bigger issue, I think, is that there's been no discussion of criminal conduct in this context. Were formal charges to be filed within the statute of limitations, Bush would be on very shaky ground attempting to exert ex post facto executive privilege in a criminal matter.
What's at the root of this, I think, is Department of Justice malfeasance. Some legal experts are expecting the Bushies to claim executive privilege as a means of preventing a new administration from releasing previously classified judgments by the DoJ that Congress has been unable to obtain thus far. The law says that the President's papers regarding WH operations are secure from release for twelve years. The DoJ is, technically, an independent agency of government, but, the threads between the WH and DoJ are very strong. The Bushies will likely try to use those connections as an excuse to seal DoJ operational documents during their tenure.
I would buy a new keyboard for $20.
trifecta |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:08 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
毛泽东 |
11.15.08 - 4:09 pm | #
Wow a shrillary fan.
I voted for Obama, fuckface.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:09 pm | #
Computer repair people want $150. just to look at my puter and decide whether or not it needs a new keyboard.
Is it a laptop? Otherwise cheaper just to buy new keyboard!
Halfdan |
11.15.08 - 4:09 pm | #
The Wire is a fan-fucking-tastic show. You will really love it, come season 4. It gets better towards the end.
AndyMN | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 4:07 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
We're just finishing season 2...we like it, so far.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:09 pm | #
I would buy a new keyboard for $20.
trifecta
Probably a laptop.
Mine is being replaced right now, too. Gonna be a couple hundred, I think.
Ali, vodka agenda |
11.15.08 - 4:09 pm | #
Wow...fy thinks he can keep defying killfile. Good luck, asshole!
AndyMN |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:10 pm | #
Computer repair people want $150. just to look at my puter and decide whether or not it needs a new keyboard.
qlª - more lefty than you
All they are gonna do is "look"?
For $150 I expect em to fix.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:10 pm | #
comment by 毛泽东 blocked
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:10 pm | #
I voted for Obama, fuckface.
Bet you held your nose.
Puma women
毛泽东 |
11.15.08 - 4:10 pm | #
Hopefully, that won't work.
The American Historical Association is firmly opposed to the proposal and has already begun yet another round of lawsuits. Hee - u thought historians were all just talk, dint u?
I still haven't seen enough of The Wire to comment intelligently on it, but it is hands down my daughter's favorite show ever. As she's finishing up four years in Baltimore (at Hopkins), this is not a bad thing.
I loved with a deep and nearly undying passion Homicide: Life on the Streets by much the same krewe.
Andre Braugher as Frank Pembleton is the single best sustained performance I have seen by anyone.
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 4:11 pm | #
Wow...fy thinks he can keep defying killfile. Good luck, asshole!
So who does it think it's fooling -- acting like it's glad Obama won?
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:11 pm | #
I voted for Obama, fuckface.
Bet you held your nose.
Puma women
You and the Rothschild gal
毛泽东** |
11.15.08 - 4:11 pm | #
We're just finishing season 2...we like it, so far.
2 is good...the whole dock workers thing was well-played.
I'm just pissed that I finished the series. Wish there was more to watch.
AndyMN |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:11 pm | #
it's an immense stretch to claim executive privilege re justice department deliberations, but to claim that the former president has rights to prevent the in-office president is just insane.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:12 pm | #
Xan -- can you tell me how to find the Westat chat?
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:12 pm | #
Puma women
毛泽东
Errrr... CBS has exit polling data that indicates the PUMAs weren't women at all, but older white men.
Go figure.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
Homepage |
11.15.08 - 4:12 pm | #
Andre Braugher as Frank Pembleton is the single best sustained performance I have seen by anyone.
Munch.
Must go start the baking now. Everybody mind your p's & q's.
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)(
*毛泽东* |
11.15.08 - 4:13 pm | #
From the link that was posted, those fires are far enough away from the Antelope Valley Freeway.
That's the 14 freeway, isn't it? Part of that was closed this morning, but it should be open well before Wednesday.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 4:14 pm | #
over there -
A car bomb has killed 11 people and wounded 36 others in the northern Iraqi town of Tal Afar, Iraqi police and the US military say.
The explosion, the latest in a series that have rocked the country in weeks, took place outside a car dealership on Saturday.
Tal Afar is in Iraq's volatile Nineveh province, where Sunni al-Qaeda fighters still operate despite several security crackdowns aimed at stamping them out.
The town lies halfway between the Syrian border and the city of Mosul, which the US military considers the last remaining urban bastion of al-Qaeda in Iraq.
A US statement said the car bomb was driven by a suicide bomber, but Iraqi police said the car was parked.
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*))
*毛泽东* QiL |
11.15.08 - 4:14 pm | #
Wonder when shit for brains will learn ya can't make a point unless you do it in all Caps and Bold?
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:14 pm | #
Homicide.
Great show...weird carry-over to Law & Order, though.
The Wire is better, IMHO.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 4:14 pm | #
GWPDA: Richard Belzer as John Munch was so good he's been on something like thirteen or fourteen shows, including X-Files.
But I cannot agree with you.
Pembleton's war with God was one for the ages.
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 4:14 pm | #
I liked Bayless too. But his character had some odd twists. Pembleton was solid and interesting without changing.
trifecta |
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11.15.08 - 4:15 pm | #
Errrr... CBS has exit polling data that indicates the PUMAs weren't women at all, but older white men.
Go figure.
Barry from AK in Shanghai | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 4:12 pm | #
That's a shocker. I always pictured Paul Lukusiak and Lambert as old colleagues of Shulamith Firestone.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:15 pm | #
Sayre fire evac zone The Sesnon last month was just west of it. Mostly in the hills, but got parts of the Lymekiln Hills and got south of 118 (Reagan) at Corrigan Hills.
bo |
11.15.08 - 4:15 pm | #
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)^^
*毛泽东* Qi |
11.15.08 - 4:16 pm | #
be open well before Wednesday.
Toonscribe | 11.15.08 - 4:14 pm | #
I meant Monday. Short term memory loss on my part. Gettin' old is a helluva thing.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Pembleton's war with God was one for the ages.
Yes, but I have cherry fennel sweet bread. That means I win.
iBook. I've seen instructions for replacing yourself and if I can get mr. ql to do it i'll just order another one from Apple. Now how to train the cat not to scritch the key caps.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.15.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Always nice to be able to killfile hat.
What a jackass.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:16 pm | #
I'm just pissed that I finished the series. Wish there was more to watch.
AndyMN | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 4:11 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I kind of like the trend towards shows that just end, for whatever reason. The old model of running stuff into the ground hasn't been a good one, on the whole. And it would've been depressing to see something like the UK Office fizzle out over eight seasons....
Plus, since I don't have cable, it's easier to get through shorter shows by renting.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Lobster is $3.89 a pound in Maine. I am jealous. I would be a bisque making mofo if I was up there.
trifecta |
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11.15.08 - 4:17 pm | #
Wonder when shit for brains will learn ya can't make a point unless you do it in all Caps and Bold?
Barry from AK in Shanghai
Oh. thank you very much.
Ali, vodka agenda |
11.15.08 - 4:17 pm | #
iBook. I've seen instructions for replacing yourself and if I can get mr. ql to do it i'll just order another one from Apple. Now how to train the cat not to scritch the key caps.
qlª - more lefty than you
Get a pack of thumbtacks, and glue one, pointy end up, to each key.
Guaranteed the cat will leave the keyboard alone.
However, typing may be bloody, ... trade offs.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:18 pm | #
Puma women
You and the Rothschild gal
Proves it knows nothing about me!
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:18 pm | #
^If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)%%%%%
周恩来 |
11.15.08 - 4:18 pm | #
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)(
Post that just a few more times, you've almost got me convinced . . .
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
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11.15.08 - 4:18 pm | #
Plus, since I don't have cable, it's easier to get through shorter shows by renting.
Very true. We don't have cable, either. We like the pace of Netflix. I'll watch Semi-Pro, eventually...
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 4:18 pm | #
i have the book which the series is based on in my bookself
I was a bit too young to appreciate Homicide: Life on the Streets
plus Channel 4 totally screwed the scheduling
putting it on at stupid times
like the Wire really, over here is the 'best show you've never seen', as it was on a obscure satellite channel
but i think the series suits DVD boxset viewing
easier to follow
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:18 pm | #
QL..I've replaced a keyboard on my iBook...not too difficult.
I found some good online instructions with pics. Lemme look for em. brb.
ain't nobody making me into bisque!
mofo |
11.15.08 - 4:20 pm | #
I see fy has returned.
Ralph got 0.0000001% of the vote.
You and ralph are both douchebags, fy.
Fuck greens.
billy b |
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11.15.08 - 4:20 pm | #
Glad to hear you are safe Sallyh
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 4:20 pm | #
If you ever needed an excuse to switch to firefox and install killfile...
It thinks it can beat the killfile by changing nyms.
That ain't working either.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:20 pm | #
Andre Braugher as Frank Pembleton is the single best sustained performance I have seen by anyone.
David Derbes, hopeful
I was channel surfing one night and ran into Pembleton in "the box" with a white supremacist. That was intense.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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11.15.08 - 4:21 pm | #
Thanks for the advice Barry. I'll file it where it deserves.
qlª - more lefty than you
Ahhh, gonna file it in the "mean things to do to ex-spouse file, eh?
Where do ya think I learned it?
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:21 pm | #
OK, out for real. Cheers.
And vote orange, not burnt umber!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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11.15.08 - 4:21 pm | #
Thirty-two people in Somalia have been arrested and whipped for taking part in a traditional dance in rebel-held territory south of the capital Mogadishu.
The dancers were flogged in accordance with the strict implementation of Sharia law in the township of Balad, 30km north of Mogadishu, on Saturday.
Mohamed Sheikh Hussein, a Somali elder, said: "They were found dancing to traditional songs outside Balad last night and were flogged this morning. They were arrested by Islamist fighters."
Sheikh Abdirahim Isse Adow, a spokesman for the group claiming authority of the area, said those arrested had been warned several times against dancing.
"We arrested 25 women and seven men who were dancing near Balad. We released them after whipping them. We warned them many times, but they wouldn't listen," he said.
"The dancing of men and women together is illegal and totally against Islam. We neither killed them nor injured them, but only whipped them according to the Islamic law," Adow said.
Warning: Quantum of Whatever=worst Bond movie ever. You have been warned.
Stew |
11.15.08 - 4:21 pm | #
time to turn on the relentless email reminders --
Artemesia |
11.15.08 - 4:21 pm | #
Don't know if that's 14. Google Earth just shows the freeway name. I'll need to use that to cross the mountains into Palmdale/Lancaster.
I checked my Thomas Guide map book and the 14 and Antelope Valley freeway are the same thing. The 14 branches off the 5 and both were closed this morning, but they should be open by Monday. We don't keep freeways closed for long around here to avoid a revolution.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 4:22 pm | #
^If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
^If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
^If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)888
周恩来- hi |
11.15.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Quantum of Whatever=worst Bond movie ever. You have been warned.
Stew |
It takes some work to meet that standard.
Ali, vodka agenda |
11.15.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Don't know if that's 14. Google Earth just shows the freeway name. I'll need to use that to cross the mountains into Palmdale/Lancaster.
GeorgeM
14 is indeed shut down.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Yes, but I have cherry fennel sweet bread. That means I win.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
You win even without the bread. I like(d) Munch on Homicide, and the Briscoe-Munch interaction over Gwen, Munch's ex and a diversion for Briscoe, was funny and all too believable (on the first Homicide - L&O crossover.)
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 4:23 pm | #
Thirty-two people in Somalia have been arrested and whipped for taking part in a traditional dance in rebel-held territory south of the capital Mogadishu.
Minneapolis has the largest population of Somalis outside of Somalia. Right now, they are going through some horrid problems with youth violence; and I've got to believe that it's a direct result of what's going on back home. It's just really sad.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 4:23 pm | #
I rather like Quantum of Solace, not as brilliant as Casino Royale but still enjoyable
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:23 pm | #
Quantum of Whatever=worst Bond movie ever. You have been warned.
Stew |
What? Ya didn't like the cameo appearance by George Lazenby?
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:23 pm | #
Huh? There's a tornado watch in effect here.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
11.15.08 - 4:24 pm | #
As if Obama gives a damn about what fy wants or doesn't want.
I'll bet it DID vote for McCain.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:24 pm | #
Sharia in Paris
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:24 pm | #
I can't get lobster here for less than $12-15 lb. Wish I lived in Maine.
mer |
11.15.08 - 4:24 pm | #
^If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
^If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)
^If I wanted Shrillary to be SOS, I would have voted for McCain.
Only Shrillary and McCain were qualified. Dont you remember her campaign talk.
Please Obama, dont select her for anything and dont help her with her campaign debts.
Good riddance to the Clinton rubbish!!!
Most corrupt political couple ever seen!(*)8888
周恩来 |
11.15.08 - 4:24 pm | #
The arcs dealing with Pembleton's stroke, and the utterly astounding episode with Vincent d'Onofrio in the subway, were jaw-droppingly good.
David Derbes, hopeful |
11.15.08 - 4:25 pm | #
Quantum of Whatever=worst Bond movie ever. You have been warned.
Stew |
No humor, no sex, no neat-o gadgets from Q...a Bond movie in name only
Stew |
11.15.08 - 4:25 pm | #
Moon - i enjoyed torturing the Lenin-fans, but it's sad to see.
One thing I've learned, painfully, on internets is that if people are used to arguments in some pattern, they will refuse to recognize a different argument.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:25 pm | #
I hardly think the Ethiopian invasion helped matters
Somalia was already screwed, just got even more screwed
strange enough withing it is Puntland and Somliland, which compared to the main country are stable (for Somalia at least and thats not much)
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:25 pm | #
"The dancing of men and women together is illegal and totally against Islam. We neither killed them nor injured them, but only whipped them according to the Islamic law," Adow said.
Doubt they made many converts....
People forget that the Afghans were very close to pitching out the Taliban in 2001, before Bush fucked up that country, too.
It's unfortunate that there are elements in both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (our allies?) that are funding these yahoos, because without money, they could not expand their influence.
montag |
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11.15.08 - 4:26 pm | #
you heartless bastids~!! I saw some teevee thingie that the Lobstermen are hurtin bad from the price drop--- but then again, I'm hurtin too, & I could sure go for some......
mofo |
11.15.08 - 4:26 pm | #
Second best result of November 4th?
Sarah got totally locked out of any top positions in the Repug Govs Conference.
Yep, she really impressed them, donchaknow.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:26 pm | #
I checked my Thomas Guide map book and the 14 and Antelope Valley freeway are the same thing.
Is there a Firesign Theater joke in there somewhere?
George Johnston |
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11.15.08 - 4:27 pm | #
People forget that the Afghans were very close to pitching out the Taliban in 2001, before Bush fucked up that country, too.
What HASN'T Bush fucked up?
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:27 pm | #
you didn't have to give me more than the title to know that. Even A View to a Kill isn't THAT stupid.
theodoric of athens |
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11.15.08 - 4:27 pm | #
I'd never heard of these guys before, but here's a very credible version of one of the best Clash songs.
you heartless bastids~!! I saw some teevee thingie that the Lobstermen are hurtin bad from the price drop--- but then again, I'm hurtin too, & I could sure go for some......
mofo
Next thing ya know, the lobstermen will be processing their catch and marketing it as Torbot, the masses just love their fake Crab.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:27 pm | #
Moon - i enjoyed torturing the Lenin-fans, but it's sad to see.
One thing I've learned, painfully, on internets is that if people are used to arguments in some pattern, they will refuse to recognize a different argument.
rootless-e, mooslamisist | 11.15.08 - 4:25 pm | #
what about the blog posts itself?
I don't always agree with it but i find it an interesting read, Lenin sadly is a member of the SWP but what can you do?
its certainly better than a piece of shit blog like Harrys Place (home of war enablers) and the so called fucking 'decent left', nothing decent bout those mofos
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:27 pm | #
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:29 pm | #
What HASN'T Bush fucked up?
Terry C - Yes We Did!
Halliburton's war time profiteering.
George Johnston |
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11.15.08 - 4:29 pm | #
It's unfortunate that there are elements in both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (our allies?) that are funding these yahoos, because without money, they could not expand their influence.
montag | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 4:26 pm | #
the US invaded the wrong fucking country no?
Saudi is where the money is coming from, funds the madrasses in Pakistan and the various groups attacking the US
but the Bush Junta and its enablers are so busy sucking an oily cock they can't see it, they are so jacked into the oil businessmen it blinds them
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:30 pm | #
there is "a large subset of white people in this country who feel that they are losing everything they know, that the country their forefathers built has somehow been stolen from them."
Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old white Georgia native, expressed similar sentiments: "I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades and the election of Obama is merely the culmination of the change.
"If you had real change it would involve all the members of (Obama's) church being deported," he said.
Change in whatever form does not come easy, and a black president is "the most profound change in the field of race this country has experienced since the Civil War," said William Ferris, senior associate director of the Center for the Study of the American South at the University of North Carolina. "It's shaking the foundations on which the country has existed for centuries."
"Someone once said racism is like cancer," Ferris said. "It's never totally wiped out, it's in remission."
I went out for happy hour last night, and met some fucking rightist that admitted that he bought a bunch of ammo on Nov. 5th. I called him a coward, but he pissed and moaned about the capital gains tax that doesn't even affect him.
No morals, these folks.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 4:32 pm | #
Has the fire closed down Ralph Spoilsport Motors?
mofo The character Ralph Spoilsport is based on Ralph Williams, an actual car salesman who ran ads all night in LA in the 60s-70s. He had the rapid-fire delivery and always started his ads, "Hi friends Ralph Williams here Ralph Williams Ford."
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 4:32 pm | #
Has the fire closed down Ralph Spoilsport Motors?
mofo
And eight years of Bush did WHAT for him and his kind?
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:32 pm | #
My SO just told me that Nate Silver has landed a two-book deal. Congrats to the geek.
GeorgeM
He's cruncing the numbers right now, trying to predict a bank that will be solvent to put his Advance Check into.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:32 pm | #
the Taliban are gaining strength again in Afghanistan
Kazai is just the Mayor of Kabul
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:32 pm | #
what about the blog posts itself?
I don't always agree with it but i find it an interesting read, Lenin sadly is a member of the SWP but what can you do?
its certainly better than a piece of shit blog like Harrys Place (home of war enablers) and the so called fucking 'decent left', nothing decent bout those mofos
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 4:27 pm
I'll give you that - at least they care and try and I also thought the post from the Indian commie about being in Chicago was moving.
But, all in all, I don't see that you can really learn much from Marx these days - and the same goes for all the people who tried so hard for reanimating the corpse: the gramscis and trotskys and frankfurt schools and so on.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:32 pm | #
Nate Silver has landed a two-book deal
..percentages on which one he writes first?
mofo |
11.15.08 - 4:33 pm | #
I always liked Sharia Lewis and isLamchop.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 4:33 pm | #
My SO just told me that Nate Silver has landed a two-book deal. Congrats to the geek.
I'm super, super straight, but Nate is the cutest kid in the world.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 4:33 pm | #
I'll give you that - at least they care and try and I also thought the post from the Indian commie about being in Chicago was moving.
But, all in all, I don't see that you can really learn much from Marx these days - and the same goes for all the people who tried so hard for reanimating the corpse: the gramscis and trotskys and frankfurt schools and so on.
rootless-e, mooslamisist | 11.15.08 - 4:32 pm | #
I see your point, have you checked out David Osler?, his posts chime in with what you are saying
he is one of those ex trots who has not turned into an arsehole
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty |
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11.15.08 - 4:34 pm | #
"If you had real change it would involve all the members of (Obama's) church being deported," he said.
More big talk from the people still fighting the Civil War.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:34 pm | #
I turned away for 3 mins & the Gators are up by 21?!? It's hard to be humble when you're a Florida Gator.
mm hmm.
see you in a couple of weeks, man.
theodoric of athens |
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11.15.08 - 4:35 pm | #
I'm super, super straight, but Nate is the cutest kid in the world.
AndyMN
You are SO gaiii.
Ali, vodka agenda |
11.15.08 - 4:35 pm | #
I always liked Sharia Lewis and isLamchop.
Toonscribe
"If you had real change it would involve all the members of (Obama's) church being deported," he said.
Smart guy, apparently.
As evidenced, even stupid people can live in America.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 4:35 pm | #
CIENFUEGOS. – An understanding of what will be needed to generalize the understanding of the Linux operating system was the essential outcome of the Youth Computing Club’s Free Software Festival, which was held in the central Cuban province of Cienfuegos.
The event, which noted the advances made in adopting the new system over the past few years, was made possible by several companies and institutions that have shifted to Linux.
At the festival, several presentations were made on the distributional principals, tools and advantages of the system, which is characterized by flexibility in that each user can modify the source code to personalize their operating version.
Dania Perez Antero, director of the Cienfuegos Computer Center, explained to JR that the event strengthened the base of knowledge on the subject.
The president of the Free Software Group of Cienfuegos, Alexei Seisdedo, explained that the main advantages to moving to the system are the technological independence that it offers, as well as the degree of security and reliability that can be reached after adopting it.
Obama's resignation from the Senate becomes effective today.
Tammy Duckworth, next Senator from Illinois!
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:36 pm | #
William Ferris, senior associate director of the Center for the Study of the American South at the University of North Carolina. "It's breaking the chains on which the country has been fastened for centuries."
Corrected a gross historical and moral error.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:36 pm | #
I'd like to sic brain-eating zombies on old Grant Griffin but there obviously ain't much eatin' there!
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:41 pm | #
The arcs dealing with Pembleton's stroke, and the utterly astounding episode with Vincent d'Onofrio in the subway, were jaw-droppingly good.
David Derbes, hopeful
The episode where a prisoner in the squad room grabs a gun and opens fire on anybody he sees was a stunner. The images of the wounded be tended to in the hospital and the bodys arriveing at the morgue were set to "Save the last dance for me".
Lumpenprolitariot |
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11.15.08 - 4:41 pm | #
In what respect, Charlie?
Terry C - Yes We Did!
"In the respect that when Putin rears his head, yaknow, he's like in our airspace, Alaska. And I'm the head of some National Guards, so.. when such as South Africa happens, we have to get Iraquis maps." ( Big smile, waves to crowds)
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:41 pm | #
Theodoric---so I take it that you're attending National Championship Game in Dolphin Stadium?? See you here!
no, I'll be watching on TV. I'm not as bloodthirsty as you have to be to get UA tickets up here.
If the Tide that played Georgia shows up, though, y'all are toast.
theodoric of athens |
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11.15.08 - 4:41 pm | #
Sharia Mia
Moonbootica
A hit by that famous Afghani pop group, ABU!
jac |
11.15.08 - 4:41 pm | #
Ruh Roh. Fire just jumped 91 freeway to the south = 3100 residents being evacuated in Anaheim Hills and Santa Ana canyon.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 4:42 pm | #
I don't see how you can "deport" people who were born in this country.
But I guess they don't teach that stuff when they home skool.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:42 pm | #
Deacon, thanks for keeping us posted. Have they pre-empted programming on LA free tv to show the fire situation?
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11.15.08 - 4:44 pm | #
“What you have forgotten, my dear, in all of this, is that,” as his nose flew away in a haze of coagulated blood. “I am in fact a bull-moose. My intention is always to defeat my enemy.”
Delta Three had wheeled into the black van from which the assassins had emerged. Alpha One fell back embracing the heavy weight she had been passed, her 9 millimetre pistol, still smoking, pointed to the sky.
From very far away she heard a bull moose descending on it’s enemies.
Le Jackel |
11.15.08 - 4:45 pm | #
Yeah, but it's still Pittsburgh.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 4:47 pm | #
Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old white Georgia native, expressed similar sentiments: "I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades and the election of Obama is merely the culmination of the change.
It was ruined the minute Reagan got elected president, moron.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:47 pm | #
Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old white Georgia native, expressed similar sentiments: "I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades
Agreed. Now, lend a hand while we start fixing it. Or else fuck off.
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George Osborne, the shadow chancellor, launched a new assault on Gordon Brown's economic policy last night, saying his profligate borrowing could provoke a run on sterling, or require a rise in interest rates that would plunge Britain deeper into recession.
Osborne said: "Sterling has devalued rapidly against the euro and the dollar. We are in danger, if the government is not careful, of having a proper sterling collapse, a run on the pound. The danger of a run on the pound is that it pushes up long-term interest rates, which is a huge burden on the economy. The more you borrow as a government and the more you have to sell the debt, the less attractive your currency seems."
Osborne's comments came as Brown arrived in Washington for a crisis meeting of the G20 after pledging that lower interest rates, tax breaks for the low-paid and measures to make the economy greener would be at the centre of Britain's response to the global recession.
The remarks expose a clear dividing line developing between Brown, who is calling for unfunded extra borrowing to boost the economy, and Osborne, who believes borrowing has reached dangerous levels. But the shadow chancellor risks accusations of provoking a run on the pound himself, or of making a false prediction if sterling recovers in the markets in the months to come.
for Democrats not to be initiating monopoly hearings regarding Big Media is just plain stupid as all hell. But being stupid cowed cowards is what democrats to best.
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11.15.08 - 4:50 pm | #
our nation is ruined and has been for several decades
Agreed. Now, lend a hand while we start fixing it. Or else fuck off.
Buzz Bomb
Like I said, if he doesn't like it, he can leave.
Not that any other country would have him.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:50 pm | #
I used to be really into Phil Ochs when I was in college. I love Tapes from California, I ain't marching any more, and Small circle of friends..
trifecta |
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11.15.08 - 4:51 pm | #
Now is the time to snap up prime real estate back east.
for Democrats not to be initiating monopoly hearings regarding Big Media is just plain stupid as all hell. But being stupid cowed cowards is what democrats to best.
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pluege
yea, let's start with Rupert
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:51 pm | #
Ummm . . . at the time Massoud was assassinated (9/9/2001), the Taliban controlled 90-95% of the country.
"Control" is relative. When the country is tired of the leadership, it pitches it out. And the Afghans were getting damned tired of the Taliban hacking people's heads off for infractions approximating jaywalking.
The warlords were not much better, but the Afghans actually wanted a return to local control of villages.
A good part of it was that the Taliban banned opium production in 2000 (well, perhaps except for what was helping to fund their operations) and a good part of the country was starving because they'd not made any plans for substitute crops. They were and are religious zealots, not state planners, so the results were predictable. That's where the Bushies come in. They gave the Taliban $42 million of in-kind aid (mostly grain) for the opium reductions, which had the effect of propping up the Taliban government at a time they were vulnerable. That was the carrot the Bushies used to get them to cancel the existing pipeline contracts with Argentina's Bridas (now BP Amoco Argentina).
At the same time, the Bushies were funneling unaccountable cash to Musharref, and there's no question that some of that money went to the Taliban via the ISI.
I'd say that the Bushies plain fucked it up, wouldn't you? And that's quite apart from the clusterfuck they've made of the country after the invasion....
montag |
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11.15.08 - 4:52 pm | #
Californians would adjust well to a Pittsburgh winter.
trifecta |
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11.15.08 - 4:52 pm | #
for Democrats not to be initiating monopoly hearings regarding Big Media is just plain stupid as all hell. But being stupid cowed cowards is what democrats to best.
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pluege | 11.15.08 - 4:50 pm | #
The Congress is full of old, beaten, compromised, Democrats who need to retire to the steam grates on K-street. And that includes you Nancy Pelosi.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:52 pm | #
Rush Limbaugh, the doyen of conservative talk radio hosts, last week blamed Mr Obama for continuing stock market falls: "This is an Obama recession, might turn into a depression," he said. "He hasn't done anything yet, but his ideas are killing the economy."
Concern at what Mr Obama's policies might bring has also sparked a 40 per cent rise in gun sales, from those worried that he will revive a lapsed ban on assault weapons.
"Gun sales doubled Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday last week," said Jim King, sporting goods manager at Thatcher's Ace Hardware in Baker City, Oregon. "We called one warehouse that went through 4,000 assault rifles in four days."
Mark Greene, a hunter and member of Gun Owners for Senator Obama, told Mr Obama's hometown newspaper, the Chicago Tribune, that some believe his election will create civil unrest in the US.
"There's a small contingent of folks... concerned that Obama's election is such a revolutionary change that it could portend mayhem. It's hysteria," he said...
...John Derbyshire, a columnist with the conservative magazine National Review, dismissed Mr Obama as a "shallow, ignorant, self-obsessed man" and mocked those conservatives "scratching around for shards of optimism - of Hope! - in the general wreckage".
Californians would adjust well to a Pittsburgh winter
Like time travel, that would be impossible.
billy b
It's not all Los Angeles, some do have winter, donchaknow
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 4:55 pm | #
Tapes From California is pretty good, Trifecta.
"All The News That's Fit To Sing" is my favorite Phil Ochs album.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 4:55 pm | #
It's really too bad about Phil Ochs. He just played too many antiwar marches. People stopped taking him seriously.
R. McGeddon |
11.15.08 - 4:55 pm | #
Phil Ochs was from Far Rockaway, as was I--saw him a coupla times live in Central Park--great talent, great loss.
Couldn't find Small Circle, so here's I ain't marching.....
On the plus side, I'm watching the state burn down, comfortably wearing shorts, Hawaiian shirt, and flipflops.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 4:56 pm | #
It's not all Los Angeles, some do have winter, donchaknow
Barry from AK in Shanghai
Yeah, but you take the million who have winter in California out, and the 35 million by the coasts and on the hillsides will still be there.
trifecta |
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11.15.08 - 4:56 pm | #
Limbaugh doesn't concern himself with actual facts, mind you.
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 4:56 pm | #
I guess I can't stream kcal.
Damn.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
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11.15.08 - 4:56 pm | #
How Sarah reads the newspaper
theodoric of athens
She just looks at the pictures.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:56 pm | #
It's not all Los Angeles, some do have winter, donchaknow
I wouldn't limit that to Californians.
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Macau's government decides to save a strategically important industry: casinos Sheldon Adelson has been forced to dilute his controlling stake in Las Vegas Sands to prevent the casino owner from running out of money after agreeing to buy new shares issued in the group, which owns the Venetian casino.
The company on Tuesday said it would push ahead with plans to raise $2.1bn without seeking shareholder approval.
Any delay in the fundraising would “seriously jeopardise the ability to complete the offerings as well as the financial viability of the company”, it said.
Under the plan, Mr Adelson will invest about $525m in new shares and warrants. Mr Adelson, once one of the world’s richest men, will also convert the $475m in convertible notes that he and his family bought recently.
In all, the fundraising will generate $2.1bn for the beleaguered group, which has suspended development of casino projects in its Cotai Strip project in Macao, and will husband resources for developments in Singapore and Pennsylvania in the US.
Last week, the company said it was in danger of violating loan covenants if it did not raise extra cash.
...John Derbyshire, a columnist with the conservative magazine National Review, dismissed Mr Obama as a "shallow, ignorant, self-obsessed man" and then admitted he was reading from his own psychological profile.
rootless-e, mooslamisist |
11.15.08 - 4:57 pm | #
92 currently in L.A.
trifecta |
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11.15.08 - 4:57 pm | #
This Californian grew up in the Boston 'burbs.
I can assure you that I could no longer adjust to a Pittsburgh winter.
She sends in weelky emails to the Editor demanding Mallard Filmore cartoons.
Barry from AK in Shanghai
One of the worst comic strips EVAH!
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:58 pm | #
"All The News That's Fit To Sing" is my favorite Phil Ochs album.
I'm a "Rehearsals For Retirement" man myself. He went off the Chicago all fired up and full of hope, only to get the shit kicked out of himself in Grant Park.
bill buckner |
11.15.08 - 4:59 pm | #
It seems that there are three fires in Orange County -- Brea, Corona, and Yorba Linda.
Toonscribe |
11.15.08 - 4:59 pm | #
Dood, Pittsburgh is a cultural mecca.
Gomez
especially that eatery that serves the french fries IN the sandwich.
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11.15.08 - 4:59 pm | #
...John Derbyshire, a columnist with the conservative magazine National Review, dismissed Mr Obama as a "shallow, ignorant, self-obsessed man"
Another nasty little pissant that doesn't concern himself with facts.
Shallow, ignorant, self-obsessed?
John, that's you old boy.
billy b |
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11.15.08 - 4:59 pm | #
There were a number of reflectory sentences regarding the state of mind of the Dead Moose before he was in fact slain.
The lose of our herbivourous pal's probiscus I regarded as necessary but clumsy. In edit that will probably be tightened up big time.
Le Jackel |
11.15.08 - 4:59 pm | #
Deacon, you're quite some ways from the Corona fire, if I have a sense of geography at all.
Sylmar fire is 10% contained, but that's 90% not contained, and we're expecting sundowners.
Californians would adjust well to a Pittsburgh winter
Like time travel, that would be impossible.
billy b
As a 60-year Californian, born in LA but living mostly in the Bay Area, I will verify the impossibility.
Upsidasium |
11.15.08 - 4:59 pm | #
On the plus side, I'm watching the state burn down, comfortably wearing shorts, Hawaiian shirt, and flipflops.
Deacon Blues
Just hold your hose in your hand (:>), in case, & watch it burn......cold, I know, but what's a fella to do at this point? During the Liberty City Riot I holed up w/ a bottle of booze & a view of Miami in Flames.
mofo |
11.15.08 - 4:59 pm | #
Shallow, ignorant, self-obsessed?
Bush. In a nutshell.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 4:59 pm | #
The winters are relatively mild.
We are further south than you might think.
I'm in freaking Alabama, dude, and it's going to be 30F here tonight.
theodoric of athens |
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11.15.08 - 5:00 pm | #
I'm a "Rehearsals For Retirement" man myself. He went off the Chicago all fired up and full of hope, only to get the shit kicked out of himself in Grant Park.
Where were you in Chicago, you know I didn't see you there...
AndyMN |
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11.15.08 - 5:00 pm | #
She sends in weelky emails to the Editor demanding Mallard Filmore cartoons.
Barry from AK in Shanghai
There was a hue and cry when the Denver Post dropped it back in the 90s. Fundies were convinced they were being censored. The paper had to cave and put it back on.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 5:00 pm | #
Toons, still okay at your end of the Valley?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.15.08 - 5:00 pm | #
It seems that there are three fires in Orange County -- Brea, Corona, and Yorba Linda.
Toonscribe
Yorba Linda
The Land of Nixon?
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 5:01 pm | #
I used to be really into Phil Ochs when I was in college. I love Tapes from California, I ain't marching any more, and Small circle of friends..
trifecta
Changes is one of my all time faves. Such a simple melody.
qlª - more lefty than you |
11.15.08 - 5:01 pm | #
I'm in freaking Alabama, dude, and it's going to be 30F here tonight.
theodoric of athens
Its warmer here.
When we get a blizzard its because of a storm coming from the south.
The nasty weather hits Chicago, Buffalo and points north.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:01 pm | #
And nothing catches on fire here unless we want it to.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:02 pm | #
Deacon, you're quite some ways from the Corona fire, if I have a sense of geography at all.
Sylmar fire is 10% contained, but that's 90% not contained, and we're expecting sundowners.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Yup, you're right. Gives you a sense of the scale of this thing.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 5:02 pm | #
"He hasn't done anything yet, but his ideas are killing the economy."
/Rush Limpdick
Sounds like Rush is back on the oxy.
Terry C - Yes We Did! |
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11.15.08 - 5:02 pm | #
i miss the sun of Cairo, the wonderful cool evenings
the weather sucks here at the moment, its gray, drizzly and rains
makes one want to curl up and hibernate
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11.15.08 - 5:02 pm | #
There was a hue and cry when the Denver Post dropped it back in the 90s. Fundies were convinced they were being censored. The paper had to cave and put it back on.
Deacon Blues
Fundies are funny like that.
Over at Ed's... yea Ed's place... they are all upset cause a KKK site was taken down by the host.
"Censoring free speech" they yell.
Nope, just killing hate speech. That's not allowed.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 5:03 pm | #
Chicago is usually ten degrees colder than here in the winter.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:03 pm | #
I live in the perfect climate. Mild spring and fall. Just a few days over 90 in the summer, and about 11" of snow in the winter.
trifecta |
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11.15.08 - 5:03 pm | #
AndyMN -
Remember reading somewhere years ago that Sean Penn had bought the rights to Ochs' story, and there was a film in the development pipeline. Dunno what ever became of it, but I SILL want to see it.
bill buckner |
11.15.08 - 5:03 pm | #
People remember the Steelers Raiders Ice Bowl in the 70's.
That was a rarity.
And teh Raiders were pussies.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:04 pm | #
Andy, we weren't even ordered to evacuate in my area. But Monsieur was getting breathless (asthma), so we headed to points south and East.
Claremont is quite lovely, and we found a place that would take our critters (we were half expecting them to say that the critters could stay and we couldn't). I've been to some talks here in the past.
In the meantime, I need to find a market. We ate all the honey roasted peanuts and vanilla JoJos in the car. Essential parts of a balanced breakfast.
Women working full time will be paid £369,000 less than their male counterparts over their lifetime, it was claimed yesterday, as new government figures emerged showing that the gender pay gap has widened over the past year.
Men are now paid 17.1% more than women for full-time work, a slight increase on last year, while the disparity in part-time wages is 36.6%, up from 35.8% in 2007, according to the Office of National Statistics' annual survey of hours and earnings.
That lifetime disparity would be enough to pay for 31 years of childcare or 22 new cars, the Equality and Human Rights Commission estimated, or to pay off the average student debt 18 times over.
Katherine Rake, director of the Fawcett Society, called the ONS figures "dire news" for women. "After years of painfully slow progress in closing the pay gap, we have now actually gone into reverse gear with the pay gap widening over 2008 for women working full and part time. This sadly demonstrates that the government has failed to take serious action to combat discrimination still facing women in the labour market."
The World Economic Forum found this week that the UK had dropped from 11th to 13th in the global gender equality league table, with Sri Lanka in 12th. The annual survey ranks countries in terms of equality of economic participation, access to education and healthcare, and political empowerment.
It is rare that the temp gets below 30 degrees for an extended period of time here in the winter.
As soon as the sun comes out you're in the 30's.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:06 pm | #
And teh Raiders were pussies.
The 70's Raiders were pussies like Pittsburgh has mild winters.
billy b |
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11.15.08 - 5:06 pm | #
I live in the perfect climate. Mild spring and fall. Just a few days over 90 in the summer, and about 11" of snow in the winter.
trifecta
Perfect climate? Me too!
Early winter
This winter
Late winter
Next winter
What could be more perfect, but hard to get a full body tan without goosebump shadows.
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 5:07 pm | #
I have been to Nixon's birthplace and museum. I chickened out on pissing on his grave. It's just roped off, nothing else.
trifecta |
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11.15.08 - 5:07 pm | #
It's really too bad about Phil Ochs. He just played too many antiwar marches. People stopped taking him seriously.
Ochs was seriously mentally ill toward the end, for which he got no treatment to speak of. He'd lapse into an alternate, dark personality--a character he called "John Train," and at times, that was his identity for days on end.
How much of that was depression over his career, and how much was brain chemistry, we'll not likely know.
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11.15.08 - 5:07 pm | #
The 70's Raiders were pussies like Pittsburgh has mild winters.
billy b
Cliff Branch was a wuss.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:07 pm | #
Barry, damn. At least Minnesota gets road construction.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.15.08 - 5:08 pm | #
Afternoon, good people.
Sallyh, I'm glad you secured safe lodgings for you and yours.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.15.08 - 5:08 pm | #
For those of you not In the Know, this fire situation is what is technically known as "a fucking mess."
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
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11.15.08 - 5:08 pm | #
Growing up in Far Rockaway didn't help, either--believe me!
mofo |
11.15.08 - 5:09 pm | #
Barry, damn. At least Minnesota gets road construction.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
We used to get good road too, till that dang bridge to nowhere crap
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 5:09 pm | #
Rescue squad driving onto field in Wisconsin- Minnesota game.
jst |
11.15.08 - 5:09 pm | #
Toonscribe,
Think those are all the same fire, dubbed "Freeway" by CalFire, unless embers have touched off a couple more.
bo |
11.15.08 - 5:10 pm | #
Cliff Branch was a wuss.
Branch was a wuss like Cal Ripken only got into Cooperstown because he was an ass-kisser.
billy b |
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11.15.08 - 5:10 pm | #
I have been to Nixon's birthplace and museum. I chickened out on pissing on his grave. It's just roped off, nothing else.
trifecta
I'm saving my first indecent exposure/public nuisance arrest for in case I get a shot at Reagan.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID! |
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11.15.08 - 5:10 pm | #
For those of you not In the Know, this fire situation is what is technically known as "a fucking mess."
In what respect, Charlie?
Barry from AK in Shanghai |
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11.15.08 - 5:10 pm | #
She sends in weelky emails to the Editor demanding Mallard Filmore cartoons.
Diane, the worst part is the expectation that we'll have sundowners tonight.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
11.15.08 - 5:10 pm | #
Sallyh (continuing in Ralph Spoilsport vein), according to my careful prosthesis, you're kinda near (cue Mel Blanc) ........Rancho Cucamonga, no?
mofo |
11.15.08 - 5:11 pm | #
Branch was a wuss like Cal Ripken only got into Cooperstown because he was an ass-kisser.
billy b
It would be OK if Pittsburgh sent us some rain today. I would completely dig a couple of inches of rain.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 5:11 pm | #
"KBR Awarded Disaster Relief Contract by U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Under Initiative for Emergency Power 11 Nov 2008 KBR today announced it has been awarded a disaster relief contract, valued at up to $75 million over a five-year period by the United States Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), Pittsburgh District, for its advance contract initiative for emergency power for the Western region of the United States. The disaster relief contract was created by the USACE to respond immediately to power emergencies resulting from a natural or manmade disaster. KBR will provide all labor, transportation, equipment, materials, supervision and required internal logistics support to perform generator set activities in the Western Region, Geographic Area 3. KBR services will mobilize immediately upon activation by USACE to the "disaster" area. The company will work to quickly provide emergency power to the critical public facilities designated by the State and FEMA as directed by the USACE." http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...r-
contract.html
pigboy |
11.15.08 - 5:11 pm | #
Diane, the worst part is the expectation that we'll have sundowners tonight.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Damn!
That is the worst possible scenario. I hope it isn't realized.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.15.08 - 5:12 pm | #
mofo, not that close. Would have to travel further east some distance.
Glad we left when we did; people are being asked not to travel.
Every time in the past several years when a major NFL playoff game was to be played here against a southern or western team in January, we've had 60 degree weather.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:12 pm | #
The company will work to quickly provide emergency power to the critical public facilities designated by the State and FEMA as directed by the USACE." http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...r- contract.html
pigboy | 11.15.08 - 5:11 pm | #
they'll stomp you to dust, you panty-waisted bigot.
ronjazz |
11.15.08 - 5:13 pm | #
Just came in to see if sallyh is here
she is - that's good.
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11.15.08 - 5:14 pm | #
Southbound 57 freeway now closed.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 5:14 pm | #
Gomez---I'm a Fin fan (tho I have much love for the Steelers), & I recall during Perfect Season when Fins (due to pre-scheduling operative then) travelled to Pittsburgh for Champs. game, & caught a 60ish, low 70ish day in the deep of winter---helped 'em quite a bit, as you'd imaginge.
mofo |
11.15.08 - 5:15 pm | #
LA average weather
Pittsburgh average weather
no imagination
And in the summertime when it is ungodly hot in LA and mild in Pittsburgh, does that count?
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:15 pm | #
Catnip Snorgette is my fave.
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11.15.08 - 5:15 pm | #
Let the grousing begin!
bo |
11.15.08 - 5:15 pm | #
Deacon Blues I'd send you some of our rain gratis.
Alas, it comes with some fierce wind and you guys do not need that.
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11.15.08 - 5:16 pm | #
Here's a question for you guys:
Monsieur has not spoken with Mlle in ten months. If her number shows up on caller ID, he hands me the phone.
She's screwed us at times, yes, but she's also been through a long series of horrible traumas. It's not helpful that her father treats her with such contempt, and she's more than fully aware of this.
I finally told him he needed to contact his daughter--and that he was to invite her and her SO for Thanksgiving dinner.
This is important to me.
I think ten months to not speak to one's daughter, especially one who's really suffered, is becoming incredibly petty. alternative views are welcomed.
200+ unit apartment building now in flames in Anaheim Hills.
Deacon Blues |
11.15.08 - 5:16 pm | #
So, I'm 20 miles (at least) from the Sylmar fire, and a good 10 miles from the Brea and Yorba Linda fires, but the entire SoCal basin has been advised that we can expect power outages as a result of those fires.
I find no solace in knowing KBR will be in charge of preventing that from happening.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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11.15.08 - 5:16 pm | #
What I am hopeing for is that National Guard will be brought back from unnecessary wars and used here at home where they should be doing this kind of relief. They would do it better and be far more accountable than the over priced KBR forigen owned company.
pigboy |
11.15.08 - 5:17 pm | #
Growing up in Far Rockaway didn't help, either--believe me!
Don't think he spent all that much time there. His family moved there when he was a teenager, then moved to upstate NY, and not long after, his family sent him to military school in Virginia, and he then went to Ohio State.
His sister stayed in Far Rockaway, though. I think he stayed with her once he had gone badly downhill, and it was there that he hanged himself in 1976.
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11.15.08 - 5:19 pm | #
200+ unit apartment building now in flames in Anaheim Hills.
Deacon Blues
Not good.
That has to be a night mare.
Hey fire, burn the McMansions, not the apartment buildings.
Gomez |
11.15.08 - 5:19 pm | #
Gomez, I live on the other side of PA, just pointing out the temp differences
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