I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
yes they do
The other one will be rediscovered when the "ingrates" don't fall in line behind Chimpy's position on Israel.
The white man's burden...
Killing brown people.
The civilization spreading meme is propaganda.
Non-Christians killing Non-Christians is ALWAYS the best entertainment for your money.
I'm confused. Is this the same Israel that sold TOW missiles to the Iranians for Reagan (at a markup of course)?
Some aloe for that burn?
later.
Afternoon, Atriots. What's shakin'?
Well, Atrios, of course.
The Washington Post has already declared the Iraq war over because Iraqi forces took over the Green Zone.
Sheesh, going to San Francisco must have addled your rationality.
they need an excused to create flash graphics
If the media covered the wars we're involved in, people might ask questions about how much it's costing us taxpayers and where all the money is going. Wouldn't want that.
And as welcome break before the next world horror – please take a minute to enjoy the comedy stylings of AP’s own Ben Fellater:
Analysis: Bush's personality shapes his legacy
By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Ben Feller, Associated Press Writer
For eight years, the nation has been led by a guy who relaxes by clearing brush in scorching heat and taking breakneck bike rides through the woods. He dishes out nicknames to world leaders, and even gave the German chancellor an impromptu, perhaps unwelcome, neck rub. He's annoyed when kept waiting and sticks relentlessly to routine. He stays optimistic in even the most dire circumstances, but readily tears up in public. He has little use for looking within himself, and only lately has done much looking back...
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Other countries' wars are much more important - and warrant much more televised coverage - than our own.
How's Afghanistan going?
— Israel moved its troops into Gaza starting a ground offensive eight days after launching an airstrike campaign in efforts to end rocket attacks from Hamas militants.
Well, so much for Atrios refusing to stick his nose into the Israeli/Palestinian conflict...
How's Afghanistan going?
NTodd, Trollson
Not to worry, old son.
Surge II is set for this month.
I'm only stopping by to post a link to this awesome video of killer whales and a penguin in Antarctica.
Please return to your normal routines.
The slaughter is on?
Pictures taken by my Grandparents while out in the Middle East during WW2
i'm quite amazed they managed to get the photos back to the UK
hard to believe but they traveled all around the ME in their duties
married in Cairo, honeymooned in the Lebanon
More trigger happy cops:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/
...niform.Shooting
srael dropped leaflets over northern Gaza, signed by the commander of the Israeli military, urging residents to "leave the area immediately" for their own safety. "We are trying to be as humane as possible," Leibovich said. "... The civilians are not our target. We are looking only at militants, Hamas militants."
Leibovich added that Israel expects "a lengthy operation," and Defense Minister Ehud Barak is calling up thousands of reservists as part of the offensive.
Noah Shachtman added, "The week-plus-long air war killed nearly 450, and wounded another 2,050. The house-to-house fighting that lies ahead could be much deadlier."
The first week or two of any war gets bigger share than later when the masses get bored and want the circuses back.
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The white man's burden...
Killing brown people.
Doug suspicious pickle
Particularly Muslim brown people.
where are the Gazeans supposed to go? the sea?
It's true that Hamas refused to renew the cease-fire and started firing rockets.
But history did not begin at that point. Israel refused to live up to the June ceasefire which required that they lifted the Gaza blockade, which was nothing more than collective punishment.
Add to that numerous assassinations and other unreported incidents, and this is what we get. The media is complicit in helping the American people stay ignorant until the next 9/11...
War go boom.
i fucking detest the whole thing of Just War
such a odious invention which has excuses all sorts of massacred
For eight years, the nation has been led by a guy who relaxes by clearing brush in scorching heat and taking breakneck bike rides through the woods. He dishes out nicknames to world leaders, and even gave the German chancellor an impromptu, perhaps unwelcome, neck rub. He's annoyed when kept waiting and sticks relentlessly to routine. He stays optimistic in even the most dire circumstances, but readily tears up in public. He has little use for looking within himself, and only lately has done much looking back...
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
The media is complicit in helping the American people stay ignorant
You were a few words too long.
Ken MacLeod put it better than I in this post - Nothing has done more to corrupt humanity than the attempt to civilise warfare. Just War Theory is an utter perversion of the moral sense, a doctrine of literally mediaeval barbarism, invented by clerics to regulate wars between Christian kings. Its finest moral discrimination to date is that it's legitimate to kill a munitions worker on his way to work, but a crime to kill him on his way home.
http://kenmacleod.blogspot.com/
2...01_archive.html
i fucking detest the whole thing of Just War
Yup, it's a construct to justify murder. And it always starts with "exceptional circumstances" when you decide that you aren't up against a "civilized, compassionate enemy" and can demonize them!
It tells us that to aim a bomb at an enemy soldier and kill a hundred civilians is - if the necessity is there - legitimate collateral damage, but to deliberately aim one bullet at one enemy civilian is murder. In its pedantic, casuistic jesuitry it still stinks of the cringing, quibbling fusspots who invented it, and retains too its usefulness to a useless and barbaric ruling class. It does nothing whatsoever to restrain their behaviour. Its only function is to befuddle those who oppose, protest and fight them. It justifies every horrific, predictable consequence of imperialist assault as an unintended consequence, and condemns every horrific, predictable consequence of resistance to that assault as an intended consequence.
http://kenmacleod.blogspot.com/
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Moon, those are great photos!
"We are trying to be as humane as possible," Leibovich said.
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Admitting that they're actions are inhuman.
This will be a slaughter, a war crime in every sense of the word. A civilian population under collective punishment, and, at the very least, disproportionate force.
Then we'll all wonder why they hate us after the next 9/11...
This just in ... Bush proposes Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus as Gazan homeland ... developing ....
a doctrine of literally mediaeval barbarism, invented by clerics to regulate wars between Christian kings.
Clerics have invented MANY odiois things, it would seem.
Moon, those are great photos!
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thanks its almost like a window in a different time and place
War go boom.
Culture of TrÜth
stocks do too.
We are trying to be as humane as possible," Leibovich said. "... The civilians are not our target. We are looking only at militants, Hamas militants."
THEN STOP BOMBING THEM
"Their" actions...
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Particularly Muslim brown people.
Something missing here--like a couple thousand jahren in history.
And it always starts with "exceptional circumstances" when you decide that you aren't up against a "civilized, compassionate enemy" and can demonize them!
For instance, when politicians characterize things in stark terms like "a battle between good and evil".
"For eight years, the nation has been led by a guy who relaxes by clearing brush in scorching heat..."
Outside of one or two photo-ops is there any evidence he actully did this?
when you decide that you aren't up against a "civilized, compassionate enemy" and can demonize them!
I done hit the trifecta!
For instance, when politicians characterize things in stark terms like "a battle between good and evil".
War = politics
Israel begins Gaza ground offensive
The Israeli army has entered the Gaza Strip as it escalated its offensive on the eighth day of operations.
A column of tanks entered the besieged territory though the Beit Hanoun crossing shortly after nightfall on Saturday, as the Israeli cabinet said it had called up about 9,000 reservists as part of its preparations.
Alan Fisher, Al Jazeera's correspondent on the Israeli-Gaza border, said that he had witnessed the movement of tanks and armoured vehicles in the area.
Hamas has vowed to defeat the Israeli army following the invasion.
http://english.aljazeera.net/
new...4452527102.html
7.2 quake in Indonesia may trigger tsunami.
Or not.
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This just in ... Bush proposes Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus as Gazan homeland ... developing ....
P O'Neill | Homepage | 01.03.09 - 3:41 pm
Dammit, P O'Neill, don't do that!
Falling off a chair at my age can be dangerous.
It is agony to see Israel constantly committing crimes and the mainstream media abusing the American people and helping the crimes to continue. PLEASE pass it on to others, I want to get the video into at least the top 100 most viewed today. SEE VIDEO OF RICHARD FALK TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL. ALSO, I invite everyone to subscribe to my channel because this is a way we can raise awareness, there is strength in numbers.
WSJ sez tsunami alert following strong earthquake in Indonesia. We're gonna need more copies of My Pet Goat.
Oy - MSNBC reporting a 7.2 earthquake in Indonesia.
THEN STOP LOBBING MISSILES INTO ISRAEL AND TRYING TO DESTROY ISRAEL WITH LIES AND PROPAGANDA.
Atrios,
as the US so generously provides weapons, aircraft, bulldozers, bunker busters, shells and what not, plus unconditional support, the bombing and the invasion of what is Gaza is your war as well as that of the Israelis.
The beacon of light, the only democracy in the middle east, bombing a starved population, without electricity, sewage, food, and a place to run and hide to.
Warriors my ass, cowards the lot of them. In the darkness of the night they murder people like you and me.
There is no justification, and no honor, only shame and hatred, when all is done and said.
when stock go boom tv man sad. war make good tv.
For instance, when politicians characterize things in stark terms like "a battle between good and evil".
If I had a nickel for every time a former US military/media "expert" used the term, "the bad guys".
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Moron.
Outside of one or two photo-ops is there any evidence he actully did this?
Clearing brush by hand in the August Texas heat is just stupid enough for him to enjoy.
If I had a nickel for every time a former US military/media "expert" used the term, "the bad guys".
"Evildoers"
"Axis of Evil"
"Evil Empire"
Oy - MSNBC reporting a 7.2 earthquake in Indonesia.
So now the US media has a story it can cover instead of the Israeli invasion.
Wonderful.
Let's ship the combatants (and their trolls) to Mars where they can fight it out and leave the rest of us alone. Losers get Uranus.
If I had a nickel for every time a former US military/media "expert" used the term, "the bad guys".
Elias | 01.03.09 - 3:45 pm | #
The real problem is sometimes the 'bad guys' are fighting 'even worse guys'!
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Protests against the slaughter in Gaza
Tralfaz: Let's ship the combatants (and their trolls) to Mars where they can fight it out and leave the rest of us alone.Trolls? Fight?
Clearing brush by hand in the August Texas heat is just stupid enough for him to enjoy.
Toonscribe
Shit. You've got a point.
Another question only future historians will be able to answer because it's too early and we're too close to it now:
has Shrub ever cleared brush when the media were not present, if so when and what is the source?
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Tralfaz: Let's ship the combatants (and their trolls) to Mars where they can fight it out and leave the rest of us alone.
Can't we bring back Battlebots for situations like this?
Terry, you are the most combatant troll on the rolls.
the only democracy in the middle east,
ARE they a democracy? These last few years, I've considered them a military dictatorship.
Aljazeer English covering it live:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Heh. Boosh loves his ranch so much that he is moving to suburban Dallas ASAP.
The real problem is sometimes the 'bad guys' are fighting 'even worse guys'!
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It's just me again! |
And yet it should not be a problem.
We have enough international mechanisms in place to deal with the issue, if only the "super powers" would commit to finding a real solution.
It is really interesting to see how many support the terrorists in the Middle East and that isn't the Israelis.
Well, our two wars are past the telegenic "shock and awe" portion. Guarding a mountain pass is just not visually interesting, and you can't ask the correspondants to put up with the deadly dullness of it all.
Plus, the novelty of both Iraq and Afghanistan have worn off, and the soldiers aren't the scions of the Russerts, the Humes, or the O'Reillys, so who gives a rat's ass about them, anyways?
has Shrub ever cleared brush when the media were not present, if so when and what is the source?
Since he only bought that dumb "ranch" in 1999 as a backdrop for his presidential run, what did he do for a hobby before? Macrame?
Yanno, of all the questions I have about Shrub's conduct over the last 8 years, whether or not he actually cleared Brush is not really high on the list.
YMMV.
Clearing brush by hand in the August Texas heat is just stupid enough for him to enjoy.
Toonscribe
Shit. You've got a point.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Actually iirc the brush clearing by Bush was actually code behavior (analogous to code language) meant for the wealthy ranchers in Texas. Somehow removing brush ('improving the land') was a means of avoiding some state environmental preserve laws.
Later it just became a worn out photo-op.
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Boosh loves his ranch so much that he is moving to suburban Dallas ASAP.
Shhh. The press might hear about the 'ranch' scam.
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what did he do for a hobby before?
SteveNS
Drink. And stick pins in puppies.
Israel is shooting fish in a barrel.
If I had a nickel for every time a former US military/media "expert" used the term, "the bad guys".
The black and white of WWII will continue to be the template that we try to cram every conflict into, I'm afraid.
We're at war?
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We're at war?
Well, if you listen to the braying jackasses of the media, yes.
Our Army might be at war, but the rest of us are supposed to be at the mall charging away at 18% on shit we don't really need.
YMMV.
Lindsay, clean fucking hippie
Gotta agree with that.
When is Spielberg going to do a movie about the attack, on the USS Liberty?
Israel is butchering Palestinians in Gaza. That's news. The fact that the united states has butchered 1,297,997 Iraqis is news also. So is the failed Afghanistan War.
The Politics of An Israeli Extermination Campaign Backers, Apologists and Arms Suppliers By James Petras Israel's totalitarian vision is driven by the practice of a permanent purge of Arab Palestine informed by Zionism, an ethno-racist ideology, promulgated by the Jewish state and justified, enforced and pursued by its organized backers in the United States.
http://
www.informationclearingho...rticle21613.htm
Our Army might be at war, but the rest of us are supposed to be at the mall charging away at 18% on shit we don't really need.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
...and carefully watch for crop dusters being flown by people that don't own them.
The price of freedom is constant vigilence. btw is that debit or credit?
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If you're talking about what's going on in Gaza, then you're quite mistaken. That is far from being another country's war. The US is deeply involved, ranging from the post Jan 2006 efforts to overthrow the elected Hamas gov't (aka Elliot's 'hard coup' brainchild); to the ongoing, crippling embargo, which has drawn plenty of cover via US veto power at the UN; to Israel's repeated (and ignored) violations of the ceasefire; to recent hostilities and the current ground invasion, which no doubt received green-lighting from the US.
What good will emerge from this killing and destruction?
answers? anyone?
Other countries' wars!? This is our war. You can say that its not your issue. You can say that you don't care. But you can't disown it.
War blows chunks. We've been fighting over plots of lands for thousands of years and where has it gotten us? Well, the human race will be obliterated because of global warming. Our "plague" on this fine earth will soon end. Thank god. Then the earth can regenerate without us.
War fucking sucks. Humans fucking suck.
Oh, it's just a fresh war. It'll get old in two weeks, and see how much the media cares about charred Palestinian kiddies then.
Duncan, please take your fingers out of your ears and stop chanting "Not Our War".
It is time to face the fact that "dual loyalty" is no longer an anti-Semitic canard, but a fact -- and a problem -- in American public life. I would like to see anyone who denies this explain the activities of Martin Peretz, Alan Dershowitz, and Pam Geller in any other way.
George Washington warned: "[A] passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. ...[I]t gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation."
http://www.salon.com/opinion/gre...racy/
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