My sister wandered down to Grand Haven and marveled that there were people crowding on the beach and swimming. (After 70,000,000 million gallons of raw sewage found its way from GR to Grand Haven)
I explained that it is frustrating to people in Muskegon that the IDIOTS from Grand Rapids think of Holland Grand Haven when they consider the beach when Muskegon has TEN TIMES as much Beach and it is TEN TIMES nicer to boot.
(But we have African American people here and you know how that Grand Rapidians are. . . )
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07.04.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Echidne:
thanks for that -- I didn't know there was any Laura Nyro video.
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07.04.08 - 11:39 pm | #
thanks for that -- I didn't know there was any Laura Nyro video.
There are a few, very few. Eli's Coming is available, too, but this seems a better choice for the fourth.
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07.04.08 - 11:40 pm | #
ok, power is back up. jeebus, the blackouts are getting shorter. The routine now is that during an outage all the folks in my little neighborhood association go out and water their roofs or their neighbor’s roofs. I see them exchange hugs and food and even laughs. I know people suck, but people are really really good; It’s those rat-bastards in Washington that fucking suck …
Then I wonder if those folks in Baghdad ever get a chance to go out when their City is on fire and exchange any hugs or food. I’m sure not much laughter, but you never know ... then I remember that someone maybe shooting a missile through their baby’s window or mowing them down with machine gun fire ... fuckin' 4th!
focus, still sssssmokin' |
07.04.08 - 11:41 pm | #
Also, Eli's not coming here anymore.
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07.04.08 - 11:41 pm | #
DWD,
Not a Grand Haven fan. Too crowded, for one. I never liked it there. Give me Muskegon and north, or Saugatuck and St. Joe, and I'm drooling.
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07.04.08 - 11:41 pm | #
my reign as Thredkiller Supreme continues.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.04.08 - 11:42 pm | #
I wonder if there's any footage of her from Monterey Pop?
Do you know the story about that? Apparently, she did something so horrible at that show that it almost killed her career.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.04.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Do you know the story about that? Apparently, she did something so horrible at that show that it almost killed her career.
What was that?
Echidne |
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07.04.08 - 11:43 pm | #
On July 5th, 1973 a Propane railroad tank car caught fire and exploded in Kingman, Arizona. Thirteen people were killed and more than a hundred injured. When I think how that event is remembered here and how many explosions we have visited or caused to be visited on Iraq I know that we will very likely never be forgiven in our lifetimes.
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07.04.08 - 11:44 pm | #
Echidne:
I've never been sure -- something she said on stage, I think. Or she just had a bad attitude. Or something.
I imagine the story is in here..
A biography of Nyro
, Soul Picnic: The Music and Passion of Laura Nyro, written by Michele Kort, was published in 2002 by Thomas Dunne Books/St. Martin's Press.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.04.08 - 11:44 pm | #
if the wingers have 'purity balls,' shouldn't we be having 'decadence balls?' just a thought. heh, that is, for those of you who've not yet done IML, that is.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.04.08 - 11:45 pm | #
Wow, my computer just went through ten minutes of not-gonna-do-a-damn-thing-for-you-bitch.
Took two or three hard reboots to get back on.
What could that be about?
helena handbasket |
07.04.08 - 11:46 pm | #
I share a birthday with Howard Dean. So there.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.04.08 - 11:46 pm | #
if the wingers have 'purity balls, shouldn't we be having 'decadence balls?'
my balls are purer than theirs.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.04.08 - 11:46 pm | #
BTW -- I was listening to Limbaugh today -- I know, I know -- and he actually said that Obama's lying about raising all that money from small individual donors on the internet.
How does he know this? Because he heard on the news that people are buying less food and not using their cars because the economy sucks, and therefore they couldn't possibly be sending money to Obama.
So where's the money secretly coming from?
Wait for it ----
George Soros.
"I can't prove this, but..."
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.04.08 - 11:47 pm | #
for those who care, WGG's love of his life has cancer, and he's very upset by it. i wish i knew what to say to him.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.04.08 - 11:47 pm | #
Beltane fires. To hell with purity balls.
catalexis |
07.04.08 - 11:48 pm | #
for those who care, WGG's love of his life has cancer, and he's very upset by it. i wish i knew what to say to him.
I saw that earlier and tried to say something on his blog. There's nothing to say, really, except for him to be there for her if he possibly can. We walk this road from dark to dark and all we have is the company. But I'm gloomy.
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07.04.08 - 11:49 pm | #
be sure to scroll down and read olishant's comment. that's what i think.
but it is at once a brilliant and pathetic moment.
charley |
07.04.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Can't fine any love for Jesse anywhere
Mike |
07.04.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Not a Grand Haven fan.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 07.04.08 - 11:41 pm | #
Any thoughts on Grand Funk?
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.04.08 - 11:50 pm | #
Our gummint always says that their Job One is to protect us from harm.
But they were reckless as shit with nuclear power for about three decades and didn't tell us.
Hell, they even conducted underground nuclear detonations in Mississippi.
MP |
07.04.08 - 11:50 pm | #
What's happened to Youtube full screen mode? Looks cartoonish
Mike |
07.04.08 - 11:50 pm | #
I can't prove this, but...
Limbaugh wears diapers while sucking off horse dicks.
Richard |
07.04.08 - 11:51 pm | #
goddess E: fwiw i totally agree and find myself equally unable to say 'happy' things to him. the longo drum is hard, at times, and we all face the dark prince alone, in the end.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.04.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Thanks, Echidne. I loved Laura Nyro when I was a kid. Good memories. Goodnight, mes amis.
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07.04.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Hey folks! I'm off to see the movie "Brainstorm" at the Castro.
It's an interesting movie. Just watched Space Cowboys. It reminds me just how much we have LOST in this country, how we have been told to be afraid, that nothing we can say or do matters in front of Neocon leaders in their quest for power and so I really understand why this feeling of a move to the Right is crazy making. We have to keep pushing for what we believe in and convince others that our values are ones that Franklin, Jefferson, Washington and Adams fought for.
NeoCons are the oppressor kings and we are the revolutionaries. Damn straight they will fight us every step of the way.
It is OUR spirit that lives on in the Declaration of Independence. It is OUR spirit that lives in the Constitution. We get in their way, just like the revolutionaries got in the way of King George.
And they will try and kill us the modern way, in the media and financially. We will beat them.
Patriots live here. On this board in your hearts. With your breath.
I associate with today's Jefferson's, Adams and Franklin's I am honored to know you all.
for those who care, WGG's love of his life has cancer, and he's very upset by it. i wish i knew what to say to him.
if you didn't get it, he sent an email about a cancer blog he set up, http://doubting-chinchilla.blogspot.com/ , asking that if anyone has any experience or knowledge esp with the specific rare type lila has please contribute. i reproduced the email in a comment earlier, also at my home page.
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07.04.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Well, not to be incendiary or anything, I've never tried a Mac. They do have the reputation of being elegant and easy to use. I'm not a luddite, exactly, I just only have known old ugly PCs with Windows.
Don't know nothin' bout no Macs.
Besides, the 1400 simoleons I plunked down last spring for this laptop will have to last me for the duration. Maybe I can explore further in the next turn of the wheel.
helena handbasket |
07.04.08 - 11:52 pm | #
They even came up with a cannon that shot out a nuclear bomb.
And set it off in the desert.
MP |
07.04.08 - 11:53 pm | #
Any thoughts on Grand Funk?
Beginning of "The Locomotion" was great, but went off the rails towards the end.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
07.04.08 - 11:53 pm | #
blockhead Terry Fader on Letterman tonite.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.04.08 - 11:53 pm | #
Only 12 minutes left to blow shit up.
macacawitz |
07.04.08 - 11:54 pm | #
I can't prove this, but...
Limbaugh wears diapers while sucking off horse dicks.
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This needs to be cleared up right away. A rumor like this could ruin a man. I really think all the news shows should start inquiring into this right away. I mean Nancy Grace should run with this just to find out how true this is....
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07.04.08 - 11:54 pm | #
Besides, the 1400 simoleons I plunked down last spring for this laptop will have to last me for the duration. Maybe I can explore further in the next turn of the wheel.
helena handbasket
Good reason to stick with what you've got, right there.
But in a few years .. the Mac might be a good idea.
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07.04.08 - 11:54 pm | #
dirk,
Please give Woody my best.
Monica_A: Dammit! |
07.04.08 - 11:55 pm | #
helena, get a used mac. nevermind all the silliness about those wars, trust me when i say: they are very easy and reliable. i've been using them for well nigh 20 years, and i've never had the problems that others speak of pcs. get a new mac if you can afford it. all my former pc using friends who've switched are like, "what was i waiting for?" you won't look back.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.04.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Sleep beckons and I am her obedient houseboy. Sleep the sleep of the just or spend the night in revelry, we all have our time and no more and we can claim what joy we can without fear.
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07.04.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Sp ocko | Homepage | 07.04.08 - 11:51 pm | #
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right on
pigboy |
07.04.08 - 11:56 pm | #
here's alittle from about 3 miles from me. look at sky in the 3rd photo and remember we are an Coastal-town with coastal winds - the sky is gone
focus, still sssssmokin' |
07.04.08 - 11:56 pm | #
I think I'll go for a walk before bed. later, bats.
Spocko, your words above were very inspiring.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.04.08 - 11:56 pm | #
"So where's the money secretly coming from?"
obama's money comes from wealthy donors. just like hillary, mccain, nancy, harry, the chimp, etc.
gary in fl |
07.04.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Patriots live here. On this board in your hearts. With your breath.
I associate with today's Jefferson's, Adams and Franklin's I am honored to know you all.
Oh, thanks. I'm supposed to maintain my customary cynicism in the face of that?
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07.04.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Did the military planners in the 50's really think that we would come to the point where we would face an enemey on the battlefield and exchange nuclear bombs launched from cannons?
wow, i must be really hated around here these days. started with "76 visitors," reloading at "63 visitors," now "54 visitors," and i haven't even insulted anyone yet. sorry.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.04.08 - 11:57 pm | #
New Macs run Windoze just fine, although it's like painting flames on a BMW M3.
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07.04.08 - 11:58 pm | #
Oh I definitely will see about exiting the Dark Side when this 'puter dies. I have an architect friend who would never consider a PC, but I've never been on her Mac computer.
This laptop has been better than I expected. When my last PC died, I asked my Son, the Internet Guru, what to look for--his answer, "Toshiba".
So, there it is.
helena handbasket |
07.04.08 - 11:59 pm | #
Please give Woody my best.
Monica_A: Dammit!
i shall.
fwiw, i can't say happy things either, and they probably aren't very helpful. what is helpful is just letting him know you care; he's a fighter as we all know and is trying to figure out a way to help her win somehow - or at least not lose too badly. i don't know lila at all, but of course that doesn't matter. kinship is made up of unbroken connections.
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07.05.08 - 12:00 am | #
They even came up with a cannon that shot out a nuclear bomb.
we can claim what joy we can without fear.
catalexis |
there is joy in fear too, just saying. ask ntodd, and my josephine.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:00 am | #
wow, i must be really hated around here these days. started with "76 visitors," reloading at "63 visitors," now "54 visitors,
MORE FLIRTING!
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:01 am | #
They even came up with a cannon that shot out a nuclear bomb.
And set it off in the desert.
I did some research on this a while back, and that was one of the bigger uses of them. Fact of the matter was that the military branches were lined up at Los Alamos and Livermore, looking for new applications once they'd sorted out the problems with linear implosion.
There were nuclear torpedoes, nuclear depth charges, nuclear cannon shells, there was even a nuclear warhead tested that was designed to fit a Falcon air-to-air missile (never tested air-to-air, though). There was even a 75mm recoilless rifle shell of about a 60-ton yield (the Davy Crockett). There were backpack bombs of about the same yield to be used by sappers parachuted into enemy territory.
About the only weapons that I could determine that did not have nuclear analogs by the early `60s were rifle bullets and hand grenades....
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07.05.08 - 12:01 am | #
ChiDy--you're always a welcome voice to me.
You're somebody I wish I could meet.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:02 am | #
Pass my support and best thoughts to Woodie GG as well.
Cancer doth sucketh.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
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07.05.08 - 12:03 am | #
I don't know who said it but I like their definition of a cynic as someone who has all of the answers but none of the solutions.
pigboy |
07.05.08 - 12:03 am | #
although it's like painting flames on a BMW M3.
ronjazz
lol.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:03 am | #
Okay, tonight's fireworks tired me out.
Talk to all you fine folks in the morning, j'espere...
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.05.08 - 12:04 am | #
although it's like painting flames on a BMW M3.
ronjazz
lol.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
Personally, I'd rather FAN the flames on an M3.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
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07.05.08 - 12:05 am | #
There were nuclear torpedoes, nuclear depth charges, nuclear cannon shells, there was even a nuclear warhead tested that was designed to fit a Falcon air-to-air missile (never tested air-to-air, though). There was even a 75mm recoilless rifle shell of about a 60-ton yield (the Davy Crockett). There were backpack bombs of about the same yield to be used by sappers parachuted into enemy territory.
Tactical nuclear weapons.
Cheney wants to use them in Iran, so the rumor goes.
Richard |
07.05.08 - 12:05 am | #
it's highly amusing to watch my cats deal with these dogs. "you smell funny!" they seem to be saying to each other, as all cower beneath the sounds of explosions outside.
thank you, helena. i just didn't mean to be such a threadkiller, that's all. i've been driven away from my own blog, so it's lonely out there these days. still: the feeling is mutual.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:06 am | #
Did the military planners in the 50's really think that we would come to the point where we would face an enemey on the battlefield and exchange nuclear bombs launched from cannons?
Jesus.
Oh, yes, indeed. A lot of the planning and think-tank activity in the `50s and `60s revolved around how exactly a limited conventional war in Europe would evolve.
The services wanted tactical weapons because they thought they were likely to lose in a conventional war against the much higher number of tanks and troops that the Soviet Union had placed in Eastern Europe.
Virtually every scenario they gamed ended up with escalation to a massive nuclear exchange between the two countries, with the US likely to have the last punch because of superior numbers of long-distance aircraft, but, with the anticipated number of casualties on both sides, that latter fact meant little strategically.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 12:08 am | #
my son's name is eli and he hates that song. probably has something to do with my singing voice, or lack thereof.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:09 am | #
I have to keep the boy dog away from fireworks, he tries to catch them.
Hank attacked the water coming from garden hoses, always.
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07.05.08 - 12:09 am | #
Thanks, ChiDy, very much.
Probably I wouldn't be the cool kind of people you meet, and I'd be shy and all.
But I'm an admirer from quite a while back.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:09 am | #
I do not know that anything is wrong but if it were me this is what I would do.
1. I would make sure I had all of the disks that came with the machine handy.
2. I would make certain that all of "MY" data was securely backed up in a safe place. (Not the program files. Just the stuff that you put into the machine - word processing files, music, pictures: stuff like that)
When computers have trouble booting up it is usually do to a failure to find files in the correct places at the correct time.
The problems that can cause these failures are in two areas. You can have a program that causing an interference with this process. These are usually called spyware or malware. The remedy is to check for them and, if found, eliminate them. Several good programs are available to do this and they are free. http://www.lavasoft.com/single/t...le/
trialpay.php is one such program
another is: Microsoft Defender http://www.microsoft.com/downloa...&
DisplayLang=en
The other possibility is that the hard drive is developing a corruption in the boot sector. If this is the case it may have to be reloaded. You will need the disks that came with the computer to do this. It is not a big deal IF you have your data backed up.
Hope this helps.
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07.05.08 - 12:11 am | #
my grandparents are spinning in their graves, i'm sure.
Mr. Medvedev made his comments on Tuesday in a meeting with a small group of foreign journalists a day after the American treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., appealed in Moscow for Russian investment in the United States. The symbolism of the visit resonated here, in that only a decade had passed since the Russian economy was in shambles and the country was desperate for Western aid.
our banks need russian ganster money to stay afloat, now? indeed, "times have changed."
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:12 am | #
I'm 50.
Thank you all for the birthday greetings.
50 wasn't so bad for me last year, Gomez. Lots of well wishes.
(this year 51 . . . need my TARDIS--)
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.05.08 - 12:12 am | #
hippos, birdies, two ewes Gomez.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 12:12 am | #
my son's name is eli and he hates that song. probably has something to do with my singing voice, or lack thereof.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
My daughter's name is Roxanne, guess which song I hate.
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07.05.08 - 12:13 am | #
damn, focus. your sky really is gone. so sorry.
there is joy in fear too, just saying. ask ntodd, and my josephine.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
that was yesterday before the fire tripled in area and strength - now it's a dad-fucker...
and I don't know anythiong about the joy/fear groove but any fear I ever had is long since gone by and by these many years ... and besides 'nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety'-
focus, still sssssmokin' |
07.05.08 - 12:13 am | #
My daughter's name is Roxanne, guess which song I hate.
1Watt, Hermit | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 12:13 am | #
damn, focus. take care.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 12:14 am | #
My daughter's name is Roxanne, guess which song I hate.
1Watt, Hermit
"Sugar Sugar" by The Archies?
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.05.08 - 12:14 am | #
So, happy fifty, Gomez.
Celebrate your semicentenial appropriately.
I know that word because when I was 7 I went to Oklahoma's state capitol for the 50 year statehood celebration. All I remember of it was that my uncle Don took a bunch of us, and I bought a big ol' round bumpersticker which I put on my Barbie/other doll case, which I still have.
It's in my closet, and I'll show it to anyone at the drop of a hat.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:14 am | #
My daughter's name is Roxanne, guess which song I hate.
1Watt, Hermit
MacArthur Park?
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:16 am | #
our banks need russian ganster money to stay afloat, now? indeed, "times have changed."
chicago dyke, dogsitter | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 12:12 am | #
i wanna see the board meeting where they explain that they lost that money.
rootless-e |
07.05.08 - 12:16 am | #
Virtually every scenario they gamed ended up with escalation to a massive nuclear exchange between the two countries, with the US likely to have the last punch because of superior numbers of long-distance aircraft, but, with the anticipated number of casualties on both sides, that latter fact meant little strategically.
montag
"I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed."
MP |
07.05.08 - 12:16 am | #
MacArthur Park?
atablarasa | 07.05.08 - 12:16 am | #
i left your coke out in the rain.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:16 am | #
am i the only one who weeps each time this song is played? i'm sorry Og and Simels aren't around, i'd bet they could educate me about it.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:17 am | #
Virtually every scenario they gamed ended up with escalation to a massive nuclear exchange between the two countries, with the US likely to have the last punch because of superior numbers of long-distance aircraft, but, with the anticipated number of casualties on both sides, that latter fact meant little strategically.
montag
Just remember the last lines in "Alas, Babylon". Pretty much the thinking in a way.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.05.08 - 12:18 am | #
Thank you all for the birthday greetings.
Later.
Gomez
goodnight pops, and may Terry Hanratty visit and bless (cough) you in your dreams ...
focus, still sssssmokin' |
07.05.08 - 12:19 am | #
Virtually every scenario they gamed ended up with escalation to a massive nuclear exchange between the two countries, with the US likely to have the last punch because of superior numbers of long-distance aircraft, but, with the anticipated number of casualties on both sides, that latter fact meant little strategically.
Would you like to play tic-tac-toe?
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:19 am | #
Jesus, Terry Hanratty is all the better you could do? It's his birthday for Chrissakes.
camelot |
07.05.08 - 12:20 am | #
focus, i won't mock you or dismiss your pain. all i can tell you is that in the eyes 'of the gods,' we have to take what we are given. i'd like to think i know something about that truth.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:20 am | #
Thanks, DWD. I sure hope this problem doesn't indicate those serious problems. My old computer got that "blue screen of death" and that was the end of that.
I ran what my son calls "crapcleaner" earlier today and it erased everything, of course. I hope that's enough. I try not to click on anything remotely suspicious, but who knows what shit can attach itself unbeknownst to the user?
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:20 am | #
Fireworks still going off...but I'm crashing...
Peace. Happy Your Independence isn't so Indepent Anymore Day.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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07.05.08 - 12:20 am | #
dirk gently, sociopathetic 11:51 pm
hey, thanx for the link. i'm very sad to hear about woody's bad news.
charley |
07.05.08 - 12:21 am | #
Just sayin'.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.05.08 - 12:22 am | #
Do I want a "Ban Republican Marriage" or "Impeach Bush/Torture Cheney" bumper sticker?
camelot |
07.05.08 - 12:22 am | #
Terry Bradshaw took over from Terry Hanratty, didn't he?
MP |
07.05.08 - 12:23 am | #
Obama in July 2008 isn’t the Obama of February 2008. What will the Obama of July 2009 have for us?
At this rate, he may as well make McCain his runing mate. Dems, Repubs and their corporate masters all happy.
Jim Parkey |
07.05.08 - 12:23 am | #
Bonjour Tristesse
thank you, goddess E. /weeps silently/
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:23 am | #
Do I want a "Ban Republican Marriage" or "Impeach Bush/Torture Cheney" bumper sticker?
Splurge. They're both good.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 12:23 am | #
damn, focus. take care.
baba durag
thanks, uh, rag? I am - we haz the perimeter - and besides Ahhhhnold vill be beck here tomorrow ... we made all the papers
focus, still sssssmokin' |
07.05.08 - 12:24 am | #
MacArthur Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!
Oh, no
No, no
Oh no!!
pigboy |
07.05.08 - 12:24 am | #
I ran what my son calls "crapcleaner" earlier today and it erased everything, of course. I hope that's enough. I try not to click on anything remotely suspicious, but who knows what shit can attach itself unbeknownst to the user?
helena handbasket
Macs are nice but they have their limits as well. One of the very very nice things about PCs is that when a part breaks, you buy a new part: the damned parts are nearly all interchangeable.
If your drive is screwed up, you buy a new one for < $100 rather than a new computer. If a video card breaks, you buy a new one for < $40 and so on.
Macs are all integrated when they break: trouble in paradise.
(But they seldom break and that is good)
You pays yours moneys and you takes your chances.
DWD - S☮S |
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07.05.08 - 12:25 am | #
At this rate, he may as well make McCain his runing mate.
not a bad idea. i mean, mccain will be looking for a job.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:25 am | #
and i go to many suspicious sites. in fact it's best to consider all sites suspicious.
charley |
07.05.08 - 12:25 am | #
Bobby Layne used to kick his offensive linemen in the huddle, after being sacked especially hard.
MP |
07.05.08 - 12:25 am | #
MP
I believe so, but I am wrong frequently and honest always.
Splurge. They're both good.
montag |
I want one more: "Bring Back $1.85 A Gallon Gas and Oral Sex in The Oval Office"
camelot |
07.05.08 - 12:26 am | #
macs are like hondas
pretty, and efficient.
but woe be when the problems arise.
charley |
07.05.08 - 12:27 am | #
crap on your computer
See, I'm thinking that the terlet is a better option here...
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:27 am | #
But helena (and everyone else) will you please go out and buy a USB hard drive and back up your data for me?
Used to be an excuse not to back up: it was time consuming and doing it was hard. Now? Not really. Takes a few minutes and once you have done it, it should only take a few minutes a week to keep up.
THEN when something breaks, it is an inconvenience: not a catastrophe.
As my computer teacher always said about every part on the computer: how many of these __________ will fail?
Every damned one of them
DWD - S☮S |
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07.05.08 - 12:27 am | #
So, is that sandboxie program safe?
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:27 am | #
octavia butler's "lillith's brood" is a good example of what i'd like to believe about them.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
"Angel's Egg" by the brilliant and very nearly forgotten Edgar Pangborn is the ultimate Good Aliens story.
waves to CD, my fellow exile.
Xan |
07.05.08 - 12:29 am | #
well, first you have to get the crap off.
spybot is my favorite for that. in fact, i just had to install it on my mom's computer, it saved her life.
download, then run in safe mode. of course, you have to get the beast running in order to download, unless you can get it on another pc and put it on a cd.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:29 am | #
Johnny Unitas and Sonny Jurgensen were nowhere near the athlete that Tom Brady is, but I like them better anyway.
MP |
07.05.08 - 12:29 am | #
helena handbasket
you don't use mozilla? That with SpyBot has kept mine trouble free for 4 years.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.05.08 - 12:29 am | #
You pays yours moneys and you takes your chances.
DWD - S?S | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 12:25 am | #
One of the very best things about Macs has nothing to do with hardware or software. They just don't get viruses, because they aren't popular. Of course, if everybody buys one, then the virus hackers will start in, and we'll all be in the same shit.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:29 am | #
I don't really think I have much important stuff to back up that's on my computer.
I guess I print out anything I'd consider important.
It's just a recreational thing at this point. Although I have a ton of emails from friends that I'd like to print out, but I got lazy about that a long time ago.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:30 am | #
The new Mac OS has a nifty automated backup program, just get a drive, and it takes care of things every day.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:32 am | #
waves to Xan. it sucks being too sick to fight, i'm telling you. still, i'm trying, covertly.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:32 am | #
Dirk Gently, you lost me at "safe mode" and then getting it on another PC, say what?
I'm not understanding that.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:33 am | #
Although I have a ton of emails from friends that I'd like to print out, but I got lazy about that a long time ago.
helena handbasket | 07.05.08 - 12:30 am | #
In the long run, easier and cheaper to keep them in a folder on a backup drive.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:33 am | #
Are you guys still talking about the Mac? Jesus, you're gonna get as boring as PC users, if you're not careful.
MP |
07.05.08 - 12:34 am | #
It appears I'm more computer illiterate than I thought.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:34 am | #
Oh, Haloscan, thou art a liar!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 12:34 am | #
Of course, if everybody buys one, then the virus hackers will start in, and we'll all be in the same shit.
ronjazz | 07.05.08 - 12:29 am | #
well, not exactly. windoze is far more prone because of its system architecture. mac os is unix based, which is much harder to crack. there are a couple of mac viruses, but even those are not as destructive as the pc ones.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:35 am | #
MP | 07.05.08 - 12:34 am | #
yes, let's talk about football dinosaurs instead.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:35 am | #
there are a couple of mac viruses, but even those are not as destructive as the pc ones.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 12:35 am | #
i dint know that. kool.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:36 am | #
...and there is Hope. a famous blogger finally, thankfully, has forgiven me for my lack of support in the early stages of the O. praise be. i'm so glad we're progressives, and not those who Hate and Hate without End.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:36 am | #
Can Homeland Security be dissolved?
camelot |
07.05.08 - 12:36 am | #
It appears I'm more computer illiterate than I thought.
I had a poster that said "There is no such thing as computer literacy. There are only degrees of computer illiteracy."
So not to worry. Everybody's level is different.
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:36 am | #
yes, let's talk about football dinosaurs instead.
ronjazz
Yeah, it was a computer cheap shot. I take those every now and again.
MP |
07.05.08 - 12:37 am | #
Camelot, or beaten with truncheons until it breaks.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 12:37 am | #
blockhead coming up on Letterman
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.05.08 - 12:38 am | #
Can Homeland Security be dissolved?
camelot
let's try acid. if that doesn't work, Drano.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 12:38 am | #
Homeland Security has made us very tourist-unfriendly. Really, really stupid program, another republican Big Government boondoggle.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:38 am | #
My stepfather used to bring home military pubs. This was like the mid 60s. Davy Crocket nukes launched off of light helicopters. What were they thinking, the Davy Crocket had a range of about a mile.
Mike |
07.05.08 - 12:38 am | #
Are they celebrating Stroms Death?
pigboy |
07.05.08 - 12:38 am | #
It's pretty to think so, Camelot.
Maybe Mr. Obama can shitcan that nonsense.
I will not subject myself to another domestic airline flight and the "gels and liquids" fucking nonsense ever again. Much less the barefoot walking through the security thing.
That's just way beyond too stupid and pointless and humiliating for words.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:38 am | #
Dirk Gently, you lost me at "safe mode" and then getting it on another PC, say what?
oh, sorry.
if you don't have an internet connection working, or if the pc won't boot, you'd have to use someone elses to download the program and then put it on a cd, then load that cd onto yours. don't worry about it.
safe mode is a way of starting the computer that doesn't start up any unnecessary programs, and isolates it from the net. this is because if a virus is running it can interfere with the cleanup program. to get to safe mode, when you first turn on the pc, before the windows logo pops up, press th F8 key. just keep tapping it. you'll get a menu that lets you boot safe mode. then you run the virus killing program, then reboot and hope everything is fixed.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:38 am | #
Can Homeland Security be dissolved?
Created by act of Congress, so all that's required is for Congress to repeal the law.
Good luck gettin' `em to do that--it's like having to admit to fuck-up to the whole world.
Those people never want to admit a mistake... which is why we have so many bad laws on the books, still.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 12:39 am | #
Sorry, wrong dead bigot.... Jesse Helms
pigboy |
07.05.08 - 12:39 am | #
Sorry, wrong dead bigot.... Jesse Helms
pigboy | 07.05.08 - 12:39 am | #
All those old white bigots smell the same.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:40 am | #
Mike, 3 miles. Pretty much a desperation weapon. The 155-mm cannon, on the other hand, would go far enough to avoid the worst fall-out.
There's one of those overlooking I-70 near Manhattan, KS, along with some other military hardware (Ft. Riley).
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:41 am | #
Fuck, there's no way I will defend Microsoft.
Jesus, you look at the Columbian drug cartel. Maybe several billion dollars worth.
Then you look at Bill Gates. Bill Gates could buy a dozen Clumbian drug cartels.
MP |
07.05.08 - 12:41 am | #
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which is why we have so many bad laws on the books, still.
montag | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 12:39 am | #
some of them are pretty funny, tho.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:41 am | #
reboot and hope everything is fixed
My method. I'm a computer expert?
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 12:41 am | #
The patriotism of excess
On the field before the All-Star Game, Major League Baseball plans to assemble the largest gathering of Hall of Fame players in baseball history. And as fans salute their heroes, the former players will join the crowd in saluting the American flag — one that is roughly 75 feet by 150 feet, as long as a 15-story building is tall, spread horizontally over the Yankee Stadium turf.
Hundreds of volunteers are needed to unfurl and hold an enormous flag. Handlers often shake their arms, creating a ripple effect.
That is a relatively small flag by big-event standards in American sports these days. But it will signal the latest can’t-miss blend of sports and patriotism, a combination increasingly presenting itself through gigantic American flags, unfurled by dozens or hundreds of people in an attempt to elicit a sense of awe and nationalism in the surrounding crowd.
“People go ape when they see it,” said Jim Alexander, a retired Coast Guard commander who runs Superflag, the company that basically invented the industry and once held the world record for the largest flag, which temporarily hung on the Hoover Dam. It was 255 by 505 feet and has been surpassed by a flag in Israel that measures 2,165 by 330 feet. “It’s a feeling. It’s a feeling that takes over a whole stadium. If anyone in the stands opened their mouth and objected, there would be hell to pay.”
Fuck that noise. Take the uber-flag waving bullshit and shove it up your ass.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.05.08 - 12:42 am | #
All those old white bigots smell the same.
ronjazz | 07.05.08 - 12:40 am | #
Those people never want to admit a mistake... which is why we have so many bad laws on the books, still.
More and better Democrats please. Progressives dammit!
camelot |
07.05.08 - 12:42 am | #
My method. I'm a computer expert?
baba durag | 07.05.08 - 12:41 am | #
ahead of at least 80% of users. that's why when you call dell support its the first thing they tell you to do.
i always reply "i did that already"
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:43 am | #
What were they thinking, the Davy Crocket had a range of about a mile.
The new toy syndrome.
And, they really didn't think very much about second-order consequences.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 12:43 am | #
Hi late-nighters. Hope you all had some sort of meaningful 4th.
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Sparkle Plenty |
07.05.08 - 12:43 am | #
And, they really didn't think very much about second-order consequences.
The summation for the Conservative Movement.
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:44 am | #
Hi late-nighters. Hope you all had some sort of meaningful 4th.
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Sparkle Plenty | 07.05.08 - 12:43 am | #
My 4th helping of eggplant parmensan will reveal its true meaning in the morning, I'm sure.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:44 am | #
F8, okay I will try to remember that.
Son was into computers from infancy and is now employed as a pretty high level infosec person at a big, pretty big, energy firm. He really doesn't have the time to fix my little laptop problems, but I pull the "mommy needs help" card when I have to. And he's a prince about it, mostly.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:44 am | #
hi sparkle - actually, i had a very emotionally draining one. i should be in bed now.
but thanks for asking
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:44 am | #
Sparkle Plenty
My evening consisted of listening to a Polka band, listening to a country rock band, standing in line for a funnel cake for an hour, watching many 14-18 YO girls walking around pregnant and watching fireworks. Yee-ha. BTW, it is not fun single.
camelot | 07.04.08 - 11:22 pm | #
camelot |
07.05.08 - 12:45 am | #
I meaningfully drowsed half the day, ate left-over ribs and mango sorbet, and read blogs.
And that's what it means to be an American!
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:45 am | #
waves to Xan. it sucks being too sick to fight, i'm telling you. still, i'm trying, covertly.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
Yeah. I'm to the point I'd rather have three Elias/Zods, two Mimis, and a Pud in a pear tree rather than another purity troll writhing in (daily) agony over Obama's latest lapse from progressive perfection.
And half of it isn't even anything O said that's different from anything else he said in the past, but claims of such from the RW Rovebot(tm) blastfax, which too many people i thought were savvier seem to be falling for. Sheesh.
Xan |
07.05.08 - 12:46 am | #
pickles and barbara jr are on leno (it's a rerun)
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:46 am | #
Fuck that noise. Take the uber-flag waving bullshit and shove it up your ass.
Supreme Commander Thor | 07.05.08 - 12:42 am | #
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag...."
I fly my flag on the front of my house every day. They can't take my country from me.
dmark |
Homepage |
07.05.08 - 12:46 am | #
sorry - jenna, not barbara jr.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
07.05.08 - 12:46 am | #
well that didn't work.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 12:47 am | #
I fly my flag on the front of my house every day. They can't take my country from me.
dmark | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 12:46 am | #
They already have, but they've left you a flag.
ronjazz |
07.05.08 - 12:47 am | #
Yet another reason I gave up on Leno...
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:47 am | #
focus, i won't mock you or dismiss your pain. all i can tell you is that in the eyes 'of the gods,' we have to take what we are given. i'd like to think i know something about that truth.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
sorry, just getting up from the 800 millionth power outage of the day and don't really remember what's what - hope I didn't, and certainly didn't mean, to dis you at all - you are one of my favorites ( brilliant, beautiful, and a little mean) I think all I meant was that even though certain things are not worthy of "great anxiety" they may still be worthy of "great action" i.e. this fucking fire, cancer in kids, and cancer in anyone ... didn't mean to be dismissive
focus, still sssssmokin' |
07.05.08 - 12:47 am | #
About the only weapons that I could determine that did not have nuclear analogs by the early `60s were rifle bullets and hand grenades....
montag | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 12:01 am | #
Actually, googling "nuclear hand grenade" brings up about 2000 hits, including this WAPO piece about isomer weapons:
"Despite increasingly outraged protests by some of the country's most respected nuclear physicists, the Department of Defense has sunk millions into something that sounds to some like science fiction: Collins's efforts to get near-nuclear-level energy from a rare radioactive element without splitting any atoms.
As the debate has raged, a defense official has been promoting Collins's work with a picture of a "nuclear hand grenade," some agencies have promised an entirely new class of "isomer weapons," and the Central Intelligence Agency and the military have raised fears that the Russians might get there first."
me too. night, all.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 12:50 am | #
thanks and goodnight, DWD.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:50 am | #
and Dirk Gently.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 12:51 am | #
Good night, DWD and Dirk . . . Dirk, hope a good night's sleep revives you some.
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Sparkle Plenty |
07.05.08 - 12:52 am | #
focus, you are beautiful, and i'm tired. damn these dogs! goodnight, to you, friend, and everyone. Xan is a goddess, that's all i have to say. g'nite.
chicago dyke, dogsitter |
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07.05.08 - 12:52 am | #
And the rest of that quote is... "... and carrying a cross."
montag |
Don't get me going on the godders.
dmark |
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07.05.08 - 12:52 am | #
Night CD, love ya. Pet your temporary dog for me.
Xan |
07.05.08 - 12:53 am | #
In '68, I thought we had a chance. In about '72, I still thought we had a chance. In '92, I thought we were still maybe in the running.
Now, we're down to embers. If the dems give us back some judges and go after some of the people who've thumbed their collective nose at Congress and the People, we might get the fire going.
But I won't believe it until it happens. Obama sure doesn't look like he's going there at this point.
atablarasa |
07.05.08 - 12:53 am | #
Who are you 30-some posters out there?
camelot |
07.05.08 - 12:53 am | #
Actually, googling "nuclear hand grenade" brings up about 2000 hits, including this WAPO piece about isomer weapons:
Yeah, most of that is just fantasy, though--through the `70s, anyway, I couldn't find any actual evidence of an attempt to produce one that employed fission.
The isomer bomb is currently a big deal, though, as is a pretty crazy one that is based on a two-chambered bottle with matter on one side and anti-matter on the other and a rupture disc in between.
We'll end up spending hundreds of millions on R&D on that one....
montag |
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07.05.08 - 12:54 am | #
Well, one of them is me -- back from looking at fireworks.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 12:54 am | #
I'm not.
4 hours of sleep last night and tomorrow morning's hike is just 7 hours away now....
Oh -- and listening to the Beatles on the iPod.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 12:56 am | #
4 hours of sleep last night and tomorrow morning's hike is just 7 hours away now....
Ta!
atablarasa | 07.05.08 - 12:55 am | #
It may be better to have 6 hrs sleep than 7. I always try to sleep in multiples of 90 minutes.
Mike |
07.05.08 - 12:57 am | #
and listening to the Beatles on the iPod
while watching fireworks?
camelot |
07.05.08 - 12:57 am | #
If the dems give us back some judges and go after some of the people who've thumbed their collective nose at Congress and the People, we might get the fire going.
It really is about judges now, and not just Supremes. Do we have quality people coming up through the lower courts anymore. Who are the lawyers out there staking out civil rights/human rights territories like there were back in the years after WWII? I just don't know . . .
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Sparkle Plenty |
07.05.08 - 12:58 am | #
while watching fireworks?
No. Now that I'm back.
While watching fireworks, I was trying to talk to my daughter, who had her fingers in her ears. She doesn't like loud noises.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 12:59 am | #
atablarasa, toonscribe, montag, camelot, and me.
Not sure why I'm still here, I'm jsut not ready to pack it in. Some days hanging out here is the best thing I do.
Not that I totally do not have a life, but it is improved by listening in to intelligent folk in all kinds of walks of life from lots of places in the world having discussions about any damn thing. It really is a good time to be had, by me anyway.
And today I was sworn by my retail-employed and pissed-off daughter not to patronize any retail establishment open on the 4th, and I didn't need to, so I've been indoor with air conditioning and TV and cooking and whatnot, and internet, all day. And here's the best place, when all is said.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 1:00 am | #
if i did fly my flag, and it's one of those big ones, i'd fly it upside down.
after 9/11, and i'm even a little ashamed to say this as i respect her very much my wife suggested i should hang it outside. but i'm very proud that i told her if i do it will be upside down. that of course was a non starter.
i never realized how much i love this country until that asshole took office. the flag is crumpled up in my closet.
charley |
07.05.08 - 1:01 am | #
Well, I can find nothing good on TV and I want to watch Wimbledon in the morning, so good night.........unless I can't sleep. Sweet dreams everyone. Only a few more holidays with W as president.
camelot |
07.05.08 - 1:01 am | #
And here's the best place, when all is said.
I can agree with that.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:01 am | #
Good night, camelot. Hope you drift right off to dreamland when your head hits the pillow.
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Sparkle Plenty |
07.05.08 - 1:03 am | #
Night camelot, sweet dreams.
dmark |
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07.05.08 - 1:04 am | #
helena handbasket
Ageed, and I did not buy the lawnmower I needed. Thanks to your daughter I will not have to mow this weekend.
camelot |
07.05.08 - 1:04 am | #
Charley, I'd agree with you, but I don't have one.
What kind of grief do you think you'd get, in your neck of the woods, if you flew it upside down?
As we all should do, I think.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 1:04 am | #
Heard a lot of fireworks here (v. rural w. TN) but every time I thought I was seeing a streak of one through the trees it turned out to be another firefly.
And since fireflies are WAY less likely to set these extremely dry woods on fire, I am not complaining in the slightest. I actually got out the hose and made sure it was unkinked and ready to deploy.
Although given the amount of woods (massive), number of faucets and hoses (one) and pressure of water from the well (feeble) this was no doubt a total waste of time and my resulting tragic demise would have wound up as a Jeannie Mose comedy report on CNN.
Xan |
07.05.08 - 1:04 am | #
If I wish camelot good night, do I have to buy a round of beverages? Ah well, who cares:
Good night, camelot.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:05 am | #
Xan -- roughly whereabouts are you in w. TN.
I'm originally from around Nashville -- with then about 20 years in Knoxville after going to UT.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:08 am | #
thanks, camelot. I could only hope that her injunction against patronizing stores which exploit "holiday" weekends would catch on.
Xan, do keep that hose handy. The idjits may yet start some fires in your area.
Hey, toonscribe, you can buy me one, okay?
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 1:08 am | #
I'm gonna let my politcal iggerance bloom forth and ask who will finish the remainder of his term as Senator for Illinois, assuming our hack wins the Presidency.
bo |
07.05.08 - 1:09 am | #
Charley, I know how you feel but several years ago I decided it was time to take back the flag. The only people in my neighborhood who flew one always had the POW/MIA flags below it and were the ones with the worst of the Rethug elction signs in their yard. I fly mine and proudly put out End The War signs.
dmark |
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07.05.08 - 1:09 am | #
alas, tomorrow is the longest shift of the week at Polls 'r' Us, and the earliest starting, so I had best shuffle off as well. Just remember, if somebody rings your phone, mentions the name of a famous university and wants to ask questions about your job...you want to take this poll. Really really you do.
Toons, just spent the better part of the last hour in my front yard (gorgeous outside right now!) watching fireworks. Monsieur chose to remain indoors and watch Charlie's Angels II
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:10 am | #
Hey, toonscribe, you can buy me one, okay?
*passes a beverage of choice to helena handbasket*
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:10 am | #
What kind of grief do you think you'd get, in your neck of the woods, if you flew it upside down?
helena handbasket
i live in florida.
much grief.
the flag is a picture prop for me. it's a piece of cloth.
my brother took it when he was a marine. they were going to burn it, even tho it's in perfectly good condition.
charley |
07.05.08 - 1:10 am | #
Brought up from below:
"I think it was a sign of confidence of President Uribe and the defense minister in Sen. McCain and maybe the two of us that they were prepared to share this information...which was highly classified," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent who accompanied Sen. McCain to Colombia along with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.).
Why am I not surprised that Jerusalem Joe is in on this scam?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.05.08 - 1:10 am | #
Sallyh -- I watched fireworks for about an hour with my daughter. This year my son decided he didn't want to watch -- he stayed inside playing an online game and chatting with his friends. It's hell to pull him away from the computer.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:12 am | #
who will finish the remainder of his term as Senator for Illinois, assuming our hack wins the Presidency.
Don't most states have the gov appoint someone to finish the term.
dmark |
Homepage |
07.05.08 - 1:13 am | #
Toons, my stupid former SIL took 2 year old Maddy to the fireworks, and it was too much for her to handle. Well, duh. I could have told him that.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:13 am | #
I'd bet that in 20 years time we'll get a pretty good picture of the many scams of Jerusalem Joe has been in on. That guy, scum of the earth, has been such a pox on the legislative landscape---hell, hell wouldn't have it.
Why Al Gore took him up is a mystery that still frosts my cake.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 1:14 am | #
And since fireflies are WAY less likely to set these extremely dry woods on fire, I am not complaining in the slightest. I actually got out the hose and made sure it was unkinked and ready to deploy.
Sorry you're so dry over there. Here in rural central OH we're wet, rain part of each day for nearly two weeks.
Usually we hear lots of fireworks coming from the farms around us -- sometimes our own, too. But we didn't get any this year and I suspect the dampness turned lots of other folks' into duds. At least the dogs weren't spooked.
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Sparkle Plenty |
07.05.08 - 1:14 am | #
Sallyh - SIL should've known better. My daughter's 10 and she still watches with her fingers in her ears.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:14 am | #
No flags pour moi.
My parents felt too much blood had been shed over pieces of cloth. I haven't overcome that training.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:15 am | #
Toons, Maddy is a very calm child. But she's 2, and this is past her bedtime. What did he think was going to happen?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:16 am | #
I don't wear my heart or my flag on my sleeve.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:16 am | #
Don't most states have the gov appoint someone to finish the term.
Depends. Some states allow the governor to appoint someone only until a special election is called.
Just sent that question in to someone in IL who would know.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 1:17 am | #
My parents felt too much blood had been shed over pieces of cloth. I haven't overcome that training.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 07.05.08 - 1:15 am | #
The whole flag thing did come from battle standards so there is that.
dmark |
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07.05.08 - 1:17 am | #
sallyh, that SIL of yours is a douchebag deluxe.
Not that you didn't know that, but it is typical of the type to take a 2 year old to a totally scary fireworks display.
Inappropriate and passively hostile and, and...
Words fail me, but my personal experience gives me a visceral reaction to that kind of shittitude.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 1:18 am | #
Helena, what can I say? Your assessment was accurate.
He assumes that because he enjoys them that his toddler will as well, which is utterly ridiculous and without anything resembling consideration, love, or logic.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:20 am | #
I'm gonna let my flag stay put over the weekend, mostly because it's a pain to take it down.
It's a really well made flag. The stars are stitched thread, and the stripes are sewn together. I like it.
MP |
07.05.08 - 1:20 am | #
Condoleeezza Rice Says She's 'Proud' to be a war criminal.
Fulfilled your thought
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:20 am | #
I will not have to mow this weekend.
You still need to trim the night, and edge this hour.
Doug |
07.05.08 - 1:20 am | #
I hope she gets to say that from the dock at the Hague.
Me, too.
I hope the various brainless ideologues get their due, but, I'm not expecting it.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 1:21 am | #
Mrs d is heading off to bed and we're off to farmers market before work tomorrow, so It's to bed for me. Everyone be good.
dmark |
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07.05.08 - 1:21 am | #
PastorMelissaScott for President, as long as we're fucking up again.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.05.08 - 1:21 am | #
Doug, our lawn is dead. There is no mowing. Monsieur still insists on watering. I said, give it up, it is NOT going to be green anytime soon.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:22 am | #
Everyone be good.
I prefer being naughty.
Good night, dmark.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:22 am | #
Toons, and how naughty do you want to be?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:23 am | #
Lawn? What is Lawn?
I have pebbly sand and gravel in my front yard. Interspaced with decorative cactus, a mesquite tree, some greaswood bushes, and a few roses.
They grow well here, which I'd not believed if I'd not seen them flourishing.
Doug |
07.05.08 - 1:25 am | #
Charley, I know how you feel but several years ago...
mind you i don't have anything against the flag. i consider it a brilliant piece of symbolic art.
my bed skirt consists of an upside down flag and one that's right side up.
in 2nd grade when we were discovering flags of the world i told the teacher that i liked the union jack the best. she flew at my desk telling me i'd better never... well, let's just say i'm almost 49 and i'll never forget that moment.
charley |
07.05.08 - 1:25 am | #
How naughty do you have?
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:25 am | #
Toons, well, there is lemon cake...
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:26 am | #
sallyh, I know what it'w like to be powerless in your kid's horrific drama/trauma.
you can't necessarily fix any of it. You stay still like an island in the ocean. Your kid is on his/her raft in the ocean. You hope they'll find your island or some other hospitable island.
Son very nearly bottomed out and down the tubes. Things seem good now, and he's independent and doing well, although he's still married to Godzilla. Eh, he's figuring it out and coping. Not for me to jump in, at this point.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 1:27 am | #
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Sally's talk of lemon cake is making me think maybe i need to bake something..
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.05.08 - 1:29 am | #
Try using a Urinator. - QuentinCompson
There's another one besides the governor of California?
bo |
07.05.08 - 1:30 am | #
I left for a trip this morning, the grass was ankle high, rolled back in @ 9p, it was bumper high. Yes I mow my driveway. (A mile down my road they don't grade it they mow it.)
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.05.08 - 1:30 am | #
Helena, at least Mlle has decided that he's her daughter's father, and that's it. Her relationship with him is over for good. She has no desire to be married to a whackjob.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:31 am | #
Sally's talk of lemon cake is making me think maybe i need to bake something..
I'm thinking about getting the chocolate & brownie chunk ice cream out of the freezer.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:31 am | #
Ali, once it cooled down some, Monsieur allowed me to give in to my baser instincts. The result was lemon cake with a lemon glaze.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:32 am | #
Sallyh, I still remember being terrified of a fireworks display when I was that age.
I hid in my room crying - thought they were going to climb in the window and hurt me somehow.
Poor Maddy. She'll be fine, of course, but still.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.05.08 - 1:32 am | #
I'm thinking about getting the chocolate & brownie chunk ice cream out of the freezer.
Toonscribe
Fuck, that sounds really good.
MP |
07.05.08 - 1:33 am | #
It's cooler here now, too.
We ate all the ice cream already Toonscribe, otherwise I'd do that too.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.05.08 - 1:33 am | #
Ali, Mlle is slowly reintegrating herself into her daughter's life. Her daughter really needs her, and she needs her grandmothers, too.
Monsieur and my therapist think it's inevitable that the ex will screw up again. I hope not, but Mlle considers it a very real possibility, and it's motivated her to get busy with her education again.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:34 am | #
Hee hee, poor chimpy gets heckled during his fourth of July speech.
Frighten a conservative and hold them over Jesse's grave?
Doug |
07.05.08 - 1:34 am | #
good, sallyh. she just has to strengthen her own self now, for your granddaughter's sake.
Not easy, but this development will let her focus on what's important, her child.
When I escaped Son's sperm donor I took off in my '73 corolla station wagon and drove as far as I could with him, my 2 year old. Checked into a motel with a bottle of wine. Oriented myself to a new reality, me for my son, me for me. It helped me hold that vision for the next umpteen years.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 1:35 am | #
I'm thinking about getting the chocolate & brownie chunk ice cream out of the freezer.
Toonscribe
great minds? I'm going to add strawberry preserves.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.05.08 - 1:36 am | #
Notice in the above video how the idiot in chief pronounces Monticello as Montichello..what a complete dumbass and embarassment to our country and the presidency.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
07.05.08 - 1:36 am | #
Habibullah Jan was shot dead after visiting an Afghan army base in Zhari district, where Taleban militants have been active, the officials said.
He was a military commander in the area before being elected to parliament.
The news came as the US and Afghan officials gave conflicting reports of an air strike which locals said had left 22 people dead.
The Afghan officials said the dead in eastern Nuristan province were civilians but the US said it had targeted militants.
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bo |
07.05.08 - 1:37 am | #
I'm going to add strawberry preserves.
1Watt, Hermit
Goddammit, I have to eat something right now.
MP |
07.05.08 - 1:37 am | #
All we have is bananas. *sigh*
Banana bread it will be.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.05.08 - 1:38 am | #
Notice in the above video how the idiot in chief pronounces Monticello as Montichello..what a complete dumbass and embarassment to our country and the presidency.
Also, at the beginning, when he says something like "new citizens," he slurs his words and it comes out "shitizens," which, in his case, might not be slurring so much as it could be a Freudian slip....
montag |
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07.05.08 - 1:39 am | #
Shit. I just tried to post something and haloscan ate it like a bowl of ice cream.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:42 am | #
Obama camp signals robust approach on Iran
The prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran is the biggest threat facing the world, according to one of Barack Obama's senior foreign policy advisers. He also signalled that the US Democratic presidential candidate would push Europe to agree tougher sanctions against Tehran. In an interview with the Financial Times, Anthony Lake, a former US national security adviser who has worked with Mr Obama since the start of his campaign, also urged the US to learn lessons from its traumatic withdrawal from Vietnam regarding pulling out of Iraq. "The most dangerous crisis we are going to face potentially in the next three to 10 years is if the Iranians get on the edge of developing a nuclear weapon," he said.
july 5 |
07.05.08 - 1:42 am | #
you know what i find really irritating?
the way bush flips thru the pages of his speeches.
i was going to use cavalier to describe it, but it's really a dismissive gesture. a perfunctory obligation he has to perform, but cares not a whit. god i hate that asshole.
charley |
07.05.08 - 1:43 am | #
Monticello as Montichello.
I thought that WAS how it is pronounced.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:44 am | #
The blueberries weren't quite up to snuff, so the red white and blue theme was foreshortened.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.05.08 - 1:44 am | #
Monticello means Mountain Cello.
MP |
07.05.08 - 1:44 am | #
You know the future of our country is bleak when you consider:
That the U.S. once had the wealth to be a lender to other nations, but is now the world’s biggest debtor.
Unnecessary war in the Middle East has caused the U.S. to run up huge trade deficits and has become financially indebted to nations like China who may be a potential adversary in the future.
Ironically the money the U.S. sends to China (via outsourced jobs, corporations moving their manufacturing plants to China) and Arab nations (money for oil, etc.) is often used by these nations to buy up real estate and other resources in our country.
It is also troubling to know that U.S. banks have found it necessary to accept billions of dollars from foreign investors, even potentially hostile foreign investors, in order to stay afloat.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
07.05.08 - 1:47 am | #
"In 30 minutes, GOMEZ TURNS 50. ON JULY 5TH"
Well, I guess the commenters here can chip in and get him a nice, warm shawl for his shoulders.
EkCenTriK |
07.05.08 - 1:48 am | #
Dubyah ruined the future.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.05.08 - 1:48 am | #
I thought that WAS how it is pronounced.
Toonscribe | 07.05.08 - 1:44 am | #
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Thats not the way we prounounce the city of Monticello in Minnesota.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
07.05.08 - 1:49 am | #
EkCenTrik, hey now!
for some of us, 50's come and gone, and we don't need shawls...
Oh wait. I have an entire collection of them
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.05.08 - 1:49 am | #
According to wikipedia, it is pronounced "chello" just like the musical instrument cello. It is Italian for "Little Mountain."
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:49 am | #
Damn it...Well okay then but Bush still has the IQ of a gnat.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
07.05.08 - 1:50 am | #
"for some of us, 50's come and gone"
I can speak from experience.
EkCenTriK |
07.05.08 - 1:51 am | #
Madison named his place Montpelier, which means Mountain Pelier.
MP |
07.05.08 - 1:51 am | #
Dubyah ruined the future. - QuentinCompson
Happened to look at the National Debt numbers in the Biz section today.
Current total: 9.6 T
Statutory Limit: 9.8 T
I do believe Chicken Caesar will be the 10 Trillion Dollar Man by 1/20/09.
Yep, pretty much ruined.
bo |
07.05.08 - 1:52 am | #
Bush still has the IQ of a gnat.
And the gnats want it back.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 1:52 am | #
Ironically the money the U.S. sends to China (via outsourced jobs, corporations moving their manufacturing plants to China) and Arab nations (money for oil, etc.) is often used by these nations to buy up real estate and other resources in our country.
And, eventually, all the profits they make from those investments are repatriated offshore, which further limits available in this country (unless they reinvest it here for greater gains).
It's a pernicious downward spiral, starting in 1973 (when Nixon destroyed the Bretton Woods conference and opened the doors wide to speculators). In less than a decade, we went from the biggest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation....
montag |
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07.05.08 - 1:52 am | #
So, we're in an "energy crisis" Iran needs to have electricity to develop 18 new oil fields & we're bitching because they are doing that?
btw Iran also has vast gold deposits that they can't develop without new power supplies. Why didn't Cheney target them instead of Iraq?
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.05.08 - 1:52 am | #
"Yankee Doodle" is a well-known US song, often sung patriotically today. It is the state anthem of Connecticut.
The first verse and refrain, as often sung today, run thus:
Yankee Doodle went to town,
A-Riding on a pony;
He stuck a feather in his hat,
And called it macaroni.
The Voice of America begins and ends all broadcasts with the interval signal of "Yankee Doodle".
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:00 am | #
With all these 50s something, the stereotype of the teeny bopper hogging the intranets is dashed away again.
Hell, I doubt if it wasn't for the middle aged set, 22" and 24" wide Screens would never have been developed.
EkCenTriK |
07.05.08 - 2:01 am | #
Yankee Doodle Dandy's origins were in a pre-Revolutionary War song originally by British military officers to mock the disheveled, disorganized colonial "Yankees" with whom they served in the French and Indian War. The word doodle first appeared in the early seventeenth century to mean a fool or simpleton, and is thought to derive from the Low German dudeltopf, meaning "fool" or "simpleton". At the time, the most common meaning of the word doodle was that of "simpleton" or "fool". It is believed that the tune comes from the nursery rhyme Lucy Locket.
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:01 am | #
Why didn't Cheney target them instead of Iraq?
1Watt, Hermit | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 1:52 am | #
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Muliple choice question
Why didn't Cheney target them instead of Iraq?
A-Iran has a bigger army.
B-Saddam tried to assassinate Bush 41.
C-Little Georgie wanted to one up his old man by capturing Saddam.
D-Iranians wouldn't treat us like liberators.
E-All of the above.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
07.05.08 - 2:01 am | #
Wow, NYT has an incredibly bitchy article about Google's problem wiht day care for employees' children.
I don't really have an opinion about their daycare program, but could the NYT just not be such heathers about it? I don't like that snideness.
Where, OH WHERE, does one get some kind of not-stupid news stories? McClatchy, Reuters, BBC sometimes. We are well and truly fuqud by media, even of the internet sort, a lot of the time.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 2:02 am | #
Yankee Doodle lyrics is attributed to Doctor Richard Shuckburgh, a British Army surgeon, who wrote the song after witnessing the unprofessional appearance of Colonel Thomas Fitch, Jr., the son of Connecticut Governor Thomas Fitch, who arrived in Albany in 1755 with the Connecticut militia.
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:03 am | #
If anyone sees ntodd, Jacks's crawfish house is xcellent. Buerre rouge on sockeye r0xx0rs my w0rld. And Orygun's if you don't finish it take it with you law for wine is teh best.
MikeJ |
07.05.08 - 2:03 am | #
The earliest known version of the lyrics comes from 1755 or 1758 as the date of origin is disputed("Yankee Doodle Turns 250--Maybe", Associated Press, 4 July 200:
Brother Ephraim sold his Cow
And bought him a Commission;
And then he went to Canada
To fight for the Nation;
But when Ephraim he came home
He proved an arrant Coward,
He wouldn't fight the Frenchmen there
For fear of being devour'd.
(Note that the sheet music which accompanies these lyrics reads, "The Words to be Sung through the Nose, & in the West Country drawl & dialect.")
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:04 am | #
"There is no hell vile enough and eternal enough for the proper punishment of Bush and his compatriots."
Agreed
EkCenTriK | 07.05.08 - 1:59 am
Agreed. Let the bidding began to construct such a hell and eternity ASAP.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.05.08 - 2:04 am | #
btw Iran also has vast gold deposits that they can't develop without new power supplies. Why didn't Cheney target them instead of Iraq?
I think he had both in his sights. Iraq was easier--it had been weakened by the Iran-Iraq War, the first Gulf War, a decade of sanctions, and once invaded and occupied, made a suitable jumping-off place for other excursions the Middle East and Central Asia.
As well, Iraq has unproven reserves that are likely huge and which can be extracted at extremely low cost--it's all in shallow pools--so the extraction costs could be as low as $1-1.50/bbl. More profits for the winners....
Iran's fields are being depleted, and while they have comparatively large reserves, they're going down. I've always thought that such was part of the reason for nuclear power. With diminishing supplies, eventually, oil would be more valuable as an export commodity than to be used for domestic power production.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 2:05 am | #
I don't really have an opinion about their daycare program
I do. You have to have a job before you can insist on daycare.
We've just gone through the fifth consecutive month of net US job losses.
MP |
07.05.08 - 2:05 am | #
People who want to try to be tough guys can end up in the kind of places where tough guys end up just as easily.
Wannabetoughguys? |
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07.05.08 - 2:05 am | #
Who is paying for all NTodd's globe trotting? Just a couple months ago he was begging for donations to take the train to Washington.
sdg |
07.05.08 - 2:06 am | #
Yankee Doodle Dandy starting now on TCM.
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:07 am | #
Julie Newmar is the devil on The Twilight Zone on SciFi.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.05.08 - 2:10 am | #
"Agreed. Let the bidding began to construct such a hell and eternity ASAP"
First, it must involve many of those sticky traps used for mice. And I mean a lot. They will come to grasp the concept of the quagmire.
EkCenTriK |
07.05.08 - 2:10 am | #
During the Revolutionary War, the Americans embraced the song and made it their own, turning it back on those who had used it to mock them. A newspaper account after the Battle of Lexington and Concord, a Boston newspaper reported: "Upon their return to Boston [pursued by the Minutemen], one [Briton] asked his brother officer how he liked the tune now, — 'Dang them,' returned he, 'they made us dance it till we were tired' — since which Yankee Doodle sounds less sweet to their ears."
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:12 am | #
Well, hell yes, MP. I know that. Not very many employers have frickin' day care for employees, very very few. And I'm glad Google does.
Of course their employees are in the uppermost stratosphere of employment opportunities, because the US of A is a backwards "wealthy third world country" that doesn't very often offer day care as a benefit. Day care is probably the least offered benefit for most workers here, and is probably taken for granted by workers in France, say.
Just, if Google's people have that benefit, it shouldn't be astronomically expensive for them, and that is what seems to be now the case.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 2:13 am | #
With diminishing supplies, eventually, oil would be more valuable as an export commodity than to be used for domestic power production.
montag
Have also read the Big Oil, is under-estimating reserves by half.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.05.08 - 2:13 am | #
Little Bushy went to DC,
After stealing the elections,
Attacked and bombed Iraq,
Just to get attention,
Little Bushy, the f**k up,
Really likes nose candy,
Tore the constitution up,
Now Karl Rove thinks he's dandy
Uncle Fester Lurks |
07.05.08 - 2:14 am | #
the reason we attacked iraq was spelled out clearly for me on 9/12 when i saw some cent. fla. redneck truck tricked out with a huge confederate flag and scrawled across the black tailgate in white, ATTACK IRAQ.
my initial reaction was WTF, but immediately i realized if they wanted to do it, they could. apparently, they wanted to.
charley |
07.05.08 - 2:15 am | #
During the Civil War, the Democratic party of 1864 adopted this version of the song as its anthem.
Yankee Doodle is no more,
Sunk his name and station;
Nigger Doodle takes his place,
And favors amalgamation.
CHORUS: Nigger Doodle's all the go,
Ebony shins and bandy,
"Loyal" people all must bow
To Nigger Doodle Dandy.
The white breed is under par
It lacks the rich a-romy,
Give us something black as tar,
Give us "Old Dahomey."
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:17 am | #
helena handbasket,
We think it's cool to somehow villify Europe, or to hold it in a lesser regard. (By "we" I don't mean you and I).
But they have decent vacation time for their labor force. Germany has an outstanding health care system.
We have parents' illnesses draining a lifetime of savings and monster truck Sundays.
MP |
07.05.08 - 2:17 am | #
Michelle, ma belle, sont les mots qui vant tres bien ensemble.
As you might suspect, I'm still listening to the Beatles.
Toonscribe |
07.05.08 - 2:18 am | #
Enter the racist pig
Uncle Fester Lurks |
07.05.08 - 2:18 am | #
How 'bout somebody ban Jack?
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.05.08 - 2:18 am | #
Many other variations and parodies have since arisen, including the one taught to schoolchildren today:
Yankee Doodle went to town
A-riding on a pony
He stuck a feather in his hat
And called it macaroni
Yankee Doodle, keep it up
Yankee Doodle dandy
Yankee Doodle round the world
As sweet as sugar candy
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:21 am | #
We have a late life system that says, "OK, we'll look after your parents, but in exchange, we get every dime of every asset they have in exchange."
Yeah, the US middle class rocks.
MP |
07.05.08 - 2:22 am | #
the reason we attacked iraq was spelled out clearly for me on 9/12 when i saw some cent. fla. redneck truck tricked out with a huge confederate flag and scrawled across the black tailgate in white, ATTACK IRAQ.
my initial reaction was WTF, but immediately i realized if they wanted to do it, they could. apparently, they wanted to.
Largely Due to blatantly ignoring laws against propaganda.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.05.08 - 2:22 am | #
Thought on daycare. This summer in my workplace has seen an explosion of children in the office. Most are of divorced parents splitting the day between them. Infants to early teens. We have one teen who has been sort of a company mascot since day one. But now we are hot and cold running kids. I presume daycare costs are one of the reasons.
I had to include in the I.T. policy a specific prohibition regarding employee's children playing on the systems. Felt bad because the one teen over the years has been good as gold and even helps do a lot of the menial work while she is there.
EkCenTriK |
07.05.08 - 2:25 am | #
MP, I will not ever villify Europe.
Our only hope is that someday, our PTB will suck it up and study Things That Have Worked in other countries, in Europe, and in the other civilized parts of the world, and figure out how to adapt them to our own craziness here.
Health care being the most critical, of course.
We have a lot to learn from the rest of the world, which is why I have a lot of trouble waving the old RW&B at every opportunity. We're too stubborn to pay attention to those who have addressed these issues long before we paid attention.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 2:27 am | #
Two things are vacuuming US wealth into the upper 5%. Fuel and health care. That's it.
It makes people lose their homes, or choose between therapeutic drugs or having heat in the winter.
How bad does it have to get, or how obese do the captains of those industries have to get, before people finally say "I've had enough"?
MP |
07.05.08 - 2:30 am | #
"captains of those industries"
Don't give them that much credit. They have been riding a wave for many years that negated some of the obvious damage their incompetence has created.
EkCenTriK |
07.05.08 - 2:32 am | #
Hey, you 26 visitors online, speak up!
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 2:35 am | #
It's good to refresh the memory of how and why we came to be, and with what optimism we had Back Then.
For all their flaws (the Founders were, after all, merely human) there really were giants in those days.
I hope that we can reverse and repair the damage, particularly of the past 8 years, and, hopefully, make their ghosts proud of the country they birthed.
Two things are vacuuming US wealth into the upper 5%. Fuel and health care. That's it.
Umm, that might be the case at the moment, but, not traditionally. The fatcats have been getting quite a bit fatter over the last thirty years, including times when health care costs were lower, and gasoline was much cheaper.
They've been getting huge tax breaks while defense spending is going up, and essential services have been declining, and that's been going on since the beginning of Reagan's first term. That's pushed a lot of costs onto the states, which usually employ regressive taxes to make up the difference.
The reasons go much further than what's immediately apparent, but, a great deal of it can be traced back to federal monetary and fiscal policy.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 2:36 am | #
Pistachios were first cultivated in Western Asia. They reached the Mediterranean world by way of central Iran, where it has long been an important crop. Although known to the Romans, the pistachio nut appears not to have reached the Mediterranean or most of the Near East in any quantity before medieval times. More recently pistachio has been cultivated in California (first commercial harvest in 1976) and Australia. The word pistachio is a Persian loanword, coming into English through Italian, and is a cognate to the Modern Persian word پسته Peste'.
hose |
07.05.08 - 2:36 am | #
The reasons go much further than what's immediately apparent, but, a great deal of it can be traced back to federal monetary and fiscal policy.
montag
That the legendary buying power of the US middle class somehow goes pockets up when it comes to health care astounds me.
MP |
07.05.08 - 2:40 am | #
Fuel prices and health care aren't really troubling the really well-off folks.
They take the hit when the entire banks & investment stuff goes belly up, as might be becoming the case these days.
Soon, precious, soon.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 2:43 am | #
Just watched "Apacolypto". Not bad.
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.05.08 - 2:47 am | #
There's no fucking way a prolonged illness of a family member should put your title to your house in jeopardy.
What kind of republic would stand by and allow that?
MP |
07.05.08 - 2:48 am | #
That the legendary buying power of the US middle class somehow goes pockets up when it comes to health care astounds me.
It's a matter of divide and conquer. The guy in California can bitch all he wants, but it won't change the system in New Jersey. With one large system, as is employed in most of Europe, GB and the Scandinavian countries, the government has to be mindful of problems in the system, or the party gets voted out (Germany reviews its system for unanticipated problems every three years). As one large entity, the government system can create far more bargaining power than smaller and more isolated groups.
With health care costs per capita twice as expensive as elsewhere, and without ancillary benefits such as universal paid sick leave controlled by the health system rather than the employer, etc., any serious problem here is destined to bankrupt the median household.
But, still, this country thinks they're doing well....
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07.05.08 - 2:49 am | #
Just watched "Apacolypto". Not bad.
Apart from it being, anthropologically and historically, a fucked-up mish-mosh, the point of which is reinforce the mythology that the Spaniards were bringing "civilization" to bloodthirsty savages, yeah, I suppose, not bad....
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07.05.08 - 2:52 am | #
What kind of republic would stand by and allow that?
Umm, I'd say, "ours," but, we stopped being a republic sixty years ago, when we decided to become a national security state, instead....
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07.05.08 - 2:53 am | #
What kind of republic would stand by and allow that? - MP
montag, I just don't quite know how come we are so far away from any rational answer on health care. It simply isn't rational, our INSURANCE based health care. I don't know how this monster started but it has to be killed, stabbed in the heart, done away with, before we'll ever get cured of it.
Some president, sometime, will have to nationalize health care and exorcise insurance companies from the landscape. I don't know if it can be done, but we're doomed if we cannot do it.
Start over.
Start with offering Medicare to all.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 2:54 am | #
Happy 4th, Atriots! It's not yet midnight on the west coast and my neighbors are going nuts with the fireworks. No one in my zipcode will be asleep for another two hours unless there's a LOT of medication involved.
Earlier I was at ErinPDX's husband's ma and pa's place (to put in NTodd speak) and had a wonderful time. Lots of food, alcohol, people and fireworks. It was a blast.
Some president, sometime, will have to nationalize health care and exorcise insurance companies from the landscape. I don't know if it can be done, but we're doomed if we cannot do it.
You've summed up the solution quite well. The question is, will any president have the will to do it? For everyone's sake, I sure hope so.
Have you ever stayed in a foreign country and worried that all your activities were being monitored?
jd |
07.05.08 - 3:03 am | #
Bo, that article was depressing as hell. That's what we're up against, and the fight for national health care will be brutal.
TOW-killfile user |
07.05.08 - 3:04 am | #
I don't know if it can be done, but we're doomed if we cannot do it.
Germany actually runs a private/public system, with the costs shared through the employer and the employee, with costs to the employee on a sliding scale based on income. But, it's tightly controlled, and there's none of the horseshit that goes on in this country in order to maximize returns for the insurers, for-profit hospitals or pharmaceutical companies. In fact, people in business for themselves must purchase private insurance there, essentially paying the company and private shares.
But, it does work, and it's equitable, and coverage is universal.
France's system is probably best, of all the European countries because it does the best job at keeping costs down. Companies there don't control the sick pay system, so they can't force you back to work before you're ready. France is so good at it, in fact, that when patients in GB can't get surgical treatment quickly enough, either for lack of beds (thank Maggie Thatcher for that), or surgical schedules that are behind, GB actually comes out ahead on things like orthopedic services and heart surgery by sending their overflow patients to France. They can afford to pay the French for the services and send someone with the patient to make arrangements, translate, take care of the paperwork, etc.
If that makes our system sound massively fucked up, well, perhaps the comparison is inevitable....
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07.05.08 - 3:06 am | #
Well, yeah, Montag, how in any measure is our "system" not massively fucked up?
The only folks for whom it is not massively fucked up are those who have government health care through Medicare or fedgov employees, like our esteemed Congresscritters.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 3:12 am | #
The only folks for whom it is not massively fucked up are those who have government health care through Medicare or fedgov employees, like our esteemed Congresscritters.
Even Medicare is more a problem than it should be. Enrollment fees are going up, Plan D is an outright sham, and the latest `pug wet dream is to cut the payments to care providers, in the hopes that they'll stop taking Medicare patients completely and that will further reduce total system costs.
Ordinary government employees have it better than most, but, they're getting hit with higher payments, too.
Congress is separate and apart from the typical government employee plan. Theirs covers everything at a ridiculously low monthly premium.
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07.05.08 - 3:17 am | #
This topic just so totally bums me out. Railing against our stupid, stupid, health care "system" seems to not get anywhere, even as Barrack and Hillary made nice noises about fixing it.
Kucinich's bill would inch us forward and even that seems like such a long shot.
Why does the US of fucking A not get up and straighten this out?
It continues to just blast me back into my seat, that we can't seem to overcome this massive, horrid, blight of health care.
Why aren't every one of our Senators and Congresspeople on this every damn day?
I'm getting too depressed.
Going to go to sleep now, if I can. It's a bottom line issue for me, I don't want any of these elected representatives to waste one more hour on anything else.
Goodnight, good folks.
helena handbasket |
07.05.08 - 3:20 am | #
San Francisco is taking a stab at providing more coverage, and there's stuff in the works in the state lege as well, though it's pretty much on the back burner as they try to cope with the "unforeseeable" budget shortfall.
If the economy really goes in the shitter, the Gordian Knot solution might become viable. GB nationalized it's health care as a consequence of it's poor economic condition post WWII.
The latest scenarios I've been exposed to call a state-sponsored non-profit, Medicare-like entity with lower premiums stepping into the market and gradually taking over from the insurance companies. Sort of starving them out of the health care area.
bo |
07.05.08 - 3:22 am | #
drowning them out of the health care arena would be my choice, bo. effin' greedheads.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 3:26 am | #
baba,
mi woodchipper es su woodchipper.
bo |
07.05.08 - 3:28 am | #
Some president, sometime, will have to nationalize health care and exorcise insurance companies from the landscape. I don't know if it can be done, but we're doomed if we cannot do it.
I wonder how much of the big shitpile bailout is going to go to insurance companies? They are bound to be neck deep in it also.
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07.05.08 - 3:31 am | #
I'll scout out some dead wood, bo.
did we finally drive the pseudo-historian troll off?
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 3:43 am | #
grilled hot dogs and root beer floats were had in honor of flags and fireworks.
Yes, I think we have prevailed over the Inanity Troll.
bo |
07.05.08 - 3:46 am | #
Yes, I think we have prevailed over the Inanity Troll.
bo
Eschaton! Eschaton! Eschaton!
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 3:48 am | #
Health care is already nationalized to some extent from the finance standpoint.
1.5% of your paycheck is going to Medicare, with no salary cap.
If we bumped it to 5%, it might shore up Medicare, but why do the goddamned pills cost so much in this country?
MP |
07.05.08 - 3:51 am | #
baba durag
Are you familiar with Richard Alpert?
Passin' Thru |
07.05.08 - 3:51 am | #
He called himself "hose" tonight. Is it just 'jack' in sockpuppet form? Or some other shapeshifter.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 3:52 am | #
baba,
I bid you good night. I'm getting pretty stuporous.
To a better world, with fewer trolls and no fuckin' Neocons.
bo |
07.05.08 - 3:52 am | #
adios, bo. buenas noches.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 3:53 am | #
Don't know Richard Alpert. Quick googling reveals he is aka Baba Ram Dass.
I know the name. Never got farther than that.
The baba in my name is a reference to my time as an expat kid in Pakistan. It's similar to the word "nino" in Spanish (an affectionate term for a child).
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 3:56 am | #
buenas noches
Casedillas to you, too. Pleasant dreams.
MP |
07.05.08 - 3:56 am | #
Never got farther than that.
It would be worth your time. Happy 4th.
Passin' Thru |
07.05.08 - 3:59 am | #
In a March 22, 1979 file photo, from left: Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.), activist Phyllis Schlafly, and Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), stand at the podium during an anti-Equal Rights Amendment dinner in Washington. The dinner was held to celebrate the date of what would have been the expiration of the seven-year ratification period for the ERA before its extension by Congress.
you off, MP? 'night.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 4:01 am | #
Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.), activist Phyllis Schlafly, and Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah)
Fuck 'em all. Even the dead one.
Willendorf Venus |
07.05.08 - 4:40 am | #
Re: Alpert
Alan Watts, Carl Jung and those of like ilk appeal to me.
Alpert is along those lines in a way. He advocates a sort of psychological quantum reality theory (i.e.: there is no objective reality - reality is created by observation), which is very ancient among asian subcontinent peoples.
blah, blah, blah. I'll shut up now.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 4:49 am | #
Helms. ptewey.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 4:51 am | #
laura nyro
is my hero
LateToTheParty |
07.05.08 - 4:58 am | #
band name or floor wax. you decide.
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 5:56 am | #
good lord...3 hours ago started watching the Laura Nyro on youtube and that put me on a tour that had me crying my eyes out...lord I needed that....even the tiny dancer at the end...
Boomer49 |
07.05.08 - 6:00 am | #
Damn, a Laura Nyro video and I missed commenting on it.
Whatta talent.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.05.08 - 6:06 am | #
David, what does ochen' mean?
baba durag |
07.05.08 - 6:14 am | #
Finally finished watching The Kite Runner. Good movie. Not quite as good as the book, but the movie never is.
qlª |
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07.05.08 - 6:22 am | #
Get credit for the F-word!, that sucks.
No foul-mouthed punk left behind
You may have read that the Texas Education Agency has been giving extra credit to public schools that didn't measure up to state standards. Well, school officials in England have done us one better in inflating the evaluations of low-achieving students. English yobs (the slang term for foul-mouthed ruffians) got a big boost this year when examiners grading the British equivalent of the TAKS decided to award credit for using profanity. The Times of London reported this week that one pupil using the F-word was credited for accurate spelling and conveying a meaning successfully. Peter Buckroyd, a chief examiner overseeing the testing of English high schoolers, told the newspaper: "It would be wicked to give it zero, because it does show some very basic skills we are looking for – like conveying some meaning and some spelling." Well, that's one way to look at it. Another way? This is bleepin' crazy.
hink there's no such thing as too much parking? Take a look at Tysons Corner, where there's more parking than jobs, more parking than office space, more parking than in downtown Washington.
That must change, said advocates and politicians seeking to transform Virginia's largest business hub from suburb to city. Reducing parking, charging for parking and finding new uses for the acres of parking that separate Tysons' buildings and the people inside is at the heart of plans to remake the area into a dense, urban, walkable, livable and attractive downtown.
"Who wants parking spaces to be the hallmark of a development?" said Clark Tyler, chairman of a Fairfax County-appointed task force preparing a Tysons redevelopment plan for later this year. "Tysons today is a shambles because its office buildings are surrounded by parking and clogged arteries."
Taking a new approach to parking, by building less and charging more, is a central tenet of the new urbanism that has gripped planners and developers in suburbs and cities across the country.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.05.08 - 7:07 am | #
Tyson trying to force everyone to move to NYC?
Ruth |
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07.05.08 - 7:09 am | #
Damn, a Laura Nyro video and I missed commenting on it.
Whatta talent.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed.
I emailed that link to my daughters. They know Laura Nyro very well (their mother is a fanatic) but I doubt they've ever seen her perform.
That is a wonderful performance, too.
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