I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
One of the greatest ideas I've heard yet. Regulate the traders but don't regulate the banks that got us into this mess.
Looks like I picked a good year to stop watching CNBC.
gee, "bigger than medium" -- that's like "family sized" or sumpin'
But let's hope Chuck Schumer doesn't send any more letters..
netizenz writes "At a press conference yesterday, FCC Chairman Kevin Martin has clarified his earlier statements on Comcast. According to the CircleID post by Richard Bennett, he 'will not seek a fine against Comcast. Rather, he will simply impose some reporting requirements on them and order them to do what they've already started to do, phase out the current traffic management system in favor of an application-agnostic one. This is second story in a row where the AP have got the facts backwards. Hence, both sides may now officially claim victory.'"
http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08...2/
1153241.shtml
corporate media = ruling class asset
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Tony Snow dead, apparently.
Christopher Whalen needs more cowbell.
Dr. DeBakey, too.
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Time to start stuffing the money under the mattress, a la Granny Clampett!
The last time we let these deregulatory maniac goobers in power we lost an entire sector of the financial system -- the Savings & Loan industry -- and the people help leading the charge to loot them were John McCain and Phil Gramm.
Since letting these foxes back in to guard the hen house (don't want to change foxes in the middle of a river, dontchaknow), now they have successfully looted yet another sector of our financial system they wildly pushed to deregulate and install anti-regulation regulator maniacs.
No One Could Have Anticipated...
gosh, i wish i owned my house.
Awesomely outrageous!!
does mckane call wendy graham a "gook"?
simple minds etc..
Time to start stuffing the money under the mattress, a la Granny Clampett!
Monica_A: Dammit!
I'm partial to mason jars buried in the root cellar, myself.
My 20 y.o. didn't whine last night when he got home from the bank and they wouldn't cash his paycheck from the Chevy dealership he works for because, as the teller said, "it will bounce."
That is major league fucked up!
"What you have to ask is what's coming next."
What?! You mean using imagination to forecast possible bad econmic news? Didn't you get Gramm's memo?
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Ooo...just thought of a slogan!
The economy: It ain't in my head--it's in my bread!
There was a woman (didn't catch her name)on ABC early this morning talking about IndyMac and the propability of more bank failures in the near future... the bobblehead laughed nervously and asked, "don't you have any good news?"
outside of his immediate family, tony snow's contribution to society is suspect at best...
I'm thinking of looking into a small to medium sized institution for myself.
IndyMac opens on Monday run by the gummint.
the bobblehead laughed nervously and asked, "don't you have any good news?"
"No."
I cashed in some old jewelry a couple years back when I wasn't working. Should have held on to it.
Time to start stuffing the money under the mattress, a la Granny Clampett!
Monica_A: Dammit!
The Economy: It Ain't In My Head--It's Stuffed In My Bed!
Bigger loss: Tony Snow or Rocky Aoki (the Benihana dude)?
outside of his immediate family, tony snow's contribution to society is suspect at best...
Very true. Very, Very True.
The last time we let these deregulatory maniac goobers in power we lost an entire sector of the financial system -- the Savings & Loan industry -- and the people help leading the charge to loot them were John McCain and Phil Gramm.
Since letting these foxes back in to guard the hen house (don't want to change foxes in the middle of a river, dontchaknow), now they have successfully looted yet another sector of our financial system they wildly pushed to deregulate and install anti-regulation regulator maniacs.
Wouldn't you love to see a campaign advertisement that says exactly this and names names?
A good comment.
Rocky Aoki.
Link Is Bad / Corrupt
Potter's paying ten cents on the dollar - CASH!
outside of his immediate family, tony snow's contribution to society is suspect at best...
uh oh. i think this could also be said of me...
Bigger loss: Tony Snow or Rocky Aoki (the Benihana dude)?
No fucking contest.
I cashed in some old jewelry a couple years back when I wasn't working. Should have held on to it.
You probably got a better price then than you would now. There's a glut on the market.
Mr. & Mrs. Gramm were some of the biggest proponents of deregulation.
He of banks.
She of speculative trading as the head of the Futures Exchange.
Fuck them both where they live.
um, 'marilyn monroe' was me.
simels regrets...
Tony Snow: Beloved Husdand, Dedicated Father, Good Friend, and Dishonest Enabler of the Worst President in American History
In my more optimistic moments I imagine Barack Obama selecting John Edwards as his vice-presidential nominee and giving him one instruction: "Sic 'em!"
Unlike his instructions from the Kerry campaign which were, apparently: "Be my likeable side."
What Dr. Michael DeBakey did to hearts and Rocky Aoki did to shrimp, Tony Snow did for our political discourse.
What a bunch of cut-ups!
IndyMac is the vanguard, the precursor of more stuff coming
Goddammit, you fucking industry pricks! IndyMac is not the vanguard. Conseco was the vanguard. Perhaps you recall the third largest bankruptcy in history. The bank regulators didn't seize it, because it was an insurance company. Insurance regulators didn't seize it because its insurance business was healthy and would remain so as soon as the lending subsidiary was spun off. Conseco got in trouble because it paid billions for a subprime lender that inflated its stock price by flipping mortgage backed securities.
Corporate socialization. It's the newest thing. Everyone who is anyone is doing it.
Tony Snow: Beloved Husdand, Dedicated Father, Good Friend, and Dishonest Enabler of the Worst President in American History
When war criminals die, I celebrate. But that's just me...
These fuckers are running the country.
http://www.buzzflash.com/article...es/analysis/
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Dishonest Enabler of the Worst President in American History and his War Crimes
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 11:00 am | #
Just for extra evil emphasis.
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"IndyMac is the vanguard, the precursor of more stuff coming"
"IT'S NOT BUSH's or MCCAIN'S FAULT!"- the 'press'.
Phil Gramm: "We live in the only country in the world where all the poor people are fat"
Tony Snow: Beloved Husdand, Dedicated Father, Good Friend, and Dishonest Enabler of the Worst President in American History
Culture of TrÜth
Spot on!
um, 'marilyn monroe' was me.
ina, alive!
Now how many people get to say that!
Phil Gramm: "We live in the only country in the world where all the poor people are fat"
plantsman
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and all the rich people are fat heads.
Forget stuffing mattresses...any advice for the proper way to store diamonds where the sun don't shine? [Or whine?]
Me: "We live in the only country in the world where all the stupid people are conservatives"
Keep talking, Phil.....
Wouldn't you love to see a campaign advertisement that says exactly this and names names?
A good comment.
SteveLG ,
Concur. If they're not ginning it up already, somebody oughta slip that one under their door.
Tony Snow is dead
Federal deficit grows to 268bio$
Banking regulators close Indy MAC
If I were Obama I'd be making hay out of Gramm's comments morning, noon and night.
Hit 'em with the chair.
Nobody will blame you.
Just finished watching the Brad DeLong-Grover Norquist "discssion about the Fannie/Freddie issue on the Beeb.
The winged monkeys are out in forces (cf. Shlaes) pounding for SS privatization again. In true "Shock doctrine" fashion, they're taking advantage of the uncertainty and worry generated by this, the second act of what promises to be a five act tragedy best known as "Big Shitpile." You hear them harping with the "looming problems in these entitlement programs."
I see the same bunch of thieving sociopaths scratching and sweating like junkies on the jones. The same bunch that has brought us a succession of these predictable stories about "blind thievery that had to be bailed out" lost their supply last summer, and now they're on the prowl for a new supplier. Social Security and Medicare have been their ultimate target, so now they're locked in: this is their final solution, the final plunder.
Now how many people get to say that!
racymind |
good mornin', racy.
The money behind the conservative media
http://www.mediatransparency.org...y.php? storyID=5
It appears they do an excellent job of following the money.
Thumper Johnson
And there will no doubt soon be an army of Rightist private eyes doing an excellent job of following them...
...any advice for the proper way to store diamonds where the sun don't shine?
Do you have a plan?
/Papillon
We live in the only country in the world where all the stupid people are conservatives
I beg your pardon.
-- John Maynard Keynes
I don't think McCain is going to get nominated.
good mornin', racy.
ina, alive!
I am at the diva's service! For at least the 15 minutes I have before the wine starts doing the talking.
Do you have a plan?
/Papillon
Thumper Johnson
[Alas...no laugh 'n' clap emoticon...] 
I am at the diva's service! For at least the 15 minutes I have before the wine starts doing the talking.
racymind | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 11:08 am | #
Cheers! Sun's over the yardarm, somewhere.
Arrrrrrrrrrrr!
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Forget stuffing mattresses...any advice for the proper way to store diamonds where the sun don't shine? [Or whine?]
Uncle Smokes
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I knew something was up the other day when the assistant secretary for economic policy came out for his presser and did a dandy Don Knotts scared shitless impression. Dana Milbank asked him if it were time to put the money in the mattress and get a shotgun, and the sniveling little weasel had a hard time answering that until finally he was able sputter that the "economy is weak".
They knew this was coming. They know a lot worse is coming too. I'll bet all of these assholes have moved their money offshore, to Dubai.
As for your diamonds, get a good strong box and bury them in the backyard. Just remember where they are. I;m lucky. I don't have any diamonds.
The suspect in the Martha's Vineyard Shark hoax is 60.
For at least the 15 minutes I have before the wine starts doing the talking.
racymind |
What language? A nice chianti?
Stuffing mattresses supposes that American currency will be worth something. I figure megainflation (it's already at about 10 percent-- I'm talking in the 20, 30, 40 percent + range) will hit soon enough.
The end stage of any rogue state's financial crisis involves foreign creditors deciding whether and when to dump the currency. It's a case of you snooze, you lose. For the first time, the offending country's long-suffering domestic proles need not get stuck with the depreciating currency. We too can sell dollars for real money. Nuff said.
Obviously I was thinking of John Stuart Mills, but John Maynard Keynes said something similar.
Another near-miss at JFK.
Goddamn computer locked up. What have i missed, last 20 minutes?
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``It's not surprising to see IndyMac resolved. What you have to ask is what's coming next. It's going to be a wave of medium to bigger-than-medium institutions.''
I am really glad I already have my mortgage, because in another year or two, I suspect I would have been either unable to get the loan or the money I had saved wouldn't be worth anything anymore. We are headed for either a credit or a currency crisis.
On second thought, I think what we're seeing is act Three of "Big Shitpile". Last Summer was the first act, the bear bailout and all the hanky panky around expanding the Fed's role in the spring was act two. I think it reaches the climax with a very dramatic collapse of a "bigger-than-medium" bank. The denouement happens the day China doesn't come to the treasury auction. Can't get a grip on a fitting act 5.
I don't think McCain is going to get nominated.
Gilly Gonzylon
You know, in the grand history of boring party conventions, the upcoming GOP one is going to be a doozy of a snoozy.
And there will no doubt soon be an army of Rightist private eyes doing an excellent job of following them...
It's an amazing resource, I can't believe I've never seen it before.
Putzhold was on the last thread.
"If I were Obama I'd be making hay out of Gramm's comments morning, noon and night."
yup. perhaps my biggest disappointment so far has been how piss poor obama's press team has been.
wes clark makes an innocuous comment and it's 3 days straight of piling on obama.
mcsame makes miscue after miscue, and from the obama team: nothing.
gotta do better then that.......if for no other reason then a bit of red meat= fired up supporters.
i have no idea what their strategery is, or if they even have one.
You could hoard gasoline, but that would be dangerous.
Those purveyors of the free market place have just nationalized (socialized) $6 TRILLION in Fannie and Freddie debt. Oh, not to mention the billions in IndyMac deposits.
Recession accomplished, my friends.
We too can sell dollars for real money. Nuff said.
How? i've been trying to figure out, how?
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You know, in the grand history of boring party conventions, the upcoming GOP one is going to be a doozy of a snoozy.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 11:11 am | #
Stars and Stripes decorated Depends™ for door gifts?
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My theory on extra money, if I had it would be to invest heavily in green technologies. Even if we are too stupid here to use them, Europe will in a big way.
Byron York's hair uses Tony Snow to get a dig at Scottie.
Obama bopped Gramm right away -- it was on TV.
Another near-miss at JFK.
plantsman | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 11:11 am | #
So?
/Dick
Stuffing mattresses supposes that American currency will be worth something. I figure megainflation (it's already at about 10 percent-- I'm talking in the 20, 30, 40 percent + range) will hit soon enough.
Moe Szyslak
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I remember seeing old black and white photographs of a german man pushing a wheelbarrow full of worthless german currency through the streets. I think he was going to buy some bread. I don't know the era. Could have been between the wars.
Obama needs better surrogates. Been a dem problem forever.
You know, in the grand history of boring party conventions, the upcoming GOP one is going to be a doozy of a snoozy.
Not if I, and thousands of my closest, smelliest friends, can help it!
Philip Seyman Hoffmore
heh...heh...heh...
Dyslexia can be funny...
"the upcoming GOP one is going to be a doozy of a snoozy."
I'll bet the Denver one will be memorable (since they are already arresting old ladies for carrying signs--free speech you know!
You could hoard gasoline, but that would be dangerous.
Banking on green vehicles powered by biofuels, I'm hoarding smegma.
Shut Up, Dick, you're in a hospital.
I remember seeing old black and white photographs of a german man pushing a wheelbarrow full of worthless german currency through the streets. I think he was going to buy some bread. I don't know the era. Could have been between the wars.
German hyperinflation, 1922-23.
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mcsame makes miscue after miscue, and from the obama team: nothing.
You assume that if Obama says something, the press will report it. I am getting emails from all over the place about McCain's insanity. Bupkis from the press.
Phil Gramm: "We live in the only country in the world where all the poor people are fat"
plantsman
Wonder how much el Rushbo weighed in at when that gem popped out...
My theory on extra money, if I had it would be to invest heavily in green technologies. Even if we are too stupid here to use them, Europe will in a big way.
trifecta
There are very few green technology companies that currently trade on U.S. exchanges. In the U.S. these companies are all start ups.
Another near-miss at JFK.
plantsman
In honor of George Carlin, who I will continue to miss for years after the few nanoseconds spent mourning right-wing assholes:
"Here's one they just made up: 'near miss.' When two planes almost collide, they call it a near miss. It's a near hit. A collision is a near miss. BOOOOM! Look...they nearly missed!"
"Obama bopped Gramm right away -- it was on TV."
once. and that was it. yesterday: nothing.
I also want to invest in "Uncle NTodd's Old Timey Split Pea Soup".
i have no idea what their strategery is, or if they even have one.
jdw
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democratic strategy for decades has been fight with weakness. Give in, bow, scrape and hope for the best.
Read Greenwald.
Cindy: "I'm a family values Republican. I was fucking Johnny Boy while he was still married to that crippled bitch."
I remember seeing old black and white photographs of a german man pushing a wheelbarrow full of worthless german currency through the streets. I think he was going to buy some bread. I don't know the era. Could have been between the wars.
foolme1ns
i have a funf mark from when i road my bike around euprope.
savin' it for a rainy day.
what?
From Bloomberg:
U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson signaled that a government takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac won't be necessary, saying they should continue as shareholder- owned companies with federal charters.
No shit. Fannie and Freddie either hold or back $5.3 trillion of mortgage debt, or about half the outstanding mortgages in the United States. For comparison purposes, the total national debt of the U.S. government is around $9.5 trillion.
German hyperinflation, 1922-23.
There are recorded instances of people being paid twice a day so they could spend their wages before they became completely worthless.
oops, too many p's
"You assume that if Obama says something, the press will report it."
oh, i know the press loves them some mcsame. doesn't matter. you have to find a way to overcome that or get buried. it's turning into gore/bush all over again...........
Not if I, and thousands of my closest, smelliest friends, can help it!
Zap Rowsdower
I was wondering if Minneapolis rather than Denver would be where the action would is.
oops. rode not road.
more coffee!
How someone as close to Mc Halitosis as shrill gramm could personally insult every American and rate a collective msm shrug, while rev wright makes a conceptual argument and still gets a mention would be beyond belief in a realty based world.
MSNBC replayed the video over and over yesterday.
SteveLG:
In my more optimistic moments I imagine Barack Obama selecting John Edwards as his vice-presidential nominee and giving him one instruction: "Sic 'em!"
Ha, ha! Teh pathetic ---IT BURNS!!!
I must have missed that plantsman.
Or it might have been too subtle.
Obama can't afford to be too subtle. This is the big time and they're going to pull out all the stops. Obama must be ready to do the same.
In the stalls -- at the airport.
"If I were Obama I'd be making hay out of Gramm's comments morning, noon and night."
they better get their fucking message coordinated -- like yesterday.
chuck schumer is taking a hit for the collapse of indymac. fuck the facts; if that meme gets established, the dems have lost, cause the repukes will just build on it. offshore drilling is already getting support from dems like dick durbin.
I was wondering if Minneapolis rather than Denver would be where the action would is.
Well, the festivities are here in St. Paul, and there's been lots of wrangling about marching routes and stuff, so it might be a little....feisty.
NPR had a lot of nerve. Did a piece on the death of Snow, and said he spent most of his time as White House press secretary "dealing with Plame." Then they played a clip of Snow saying unequivocally that Plame was not a covert agent, and nobody's identity was revealed.
NPR, the good little propaganda arm that they are, didn't bother to mention Tony Snow was a LIAR.
gee, "bigger than medium" -- that's like "family sized" or sumpin'
Neill
Giant Economist Size! Step right up! Recieve our...free brochure...
nap time
Ha, ha! Teh pathetic ---IT BURNS!!!
Bullshit. If you were not immune to pathetic, you would have sponaneously self-immolated years ago.
"Obama must be ready to do the same."
agreed. yesterday the wife asked, after viewing *another* mcsame commercial, if it wasn't bothersome there are no obama commercials being played here.
it is disconcerting.....
would be beyond belief in a realty based world.
are you familiar with IOKIYAR? our corporate ratwang media does not diss the ratwang, it licks their asses.
Dick Durbin can shut his "doesn't have an oceanic coast" ass the fuck up.
There are recorded instances of people being paid twice a day so they could spend their wages before they became completely worthless.
10 TRILLION mark notes - worthless. Workers handing their pay in cash out the factory window to the wife so she could go buy something - anything- before the next depreciation. (You could barter an actual object.) Man leaves a wheelbarrow of cash unguarded for a second and comes back to find he's been robbed - someone stole the wheelbarrow - and dumped the cash for faster running.
One of Hitler's first big campaign platforms was the promise that the mark would never become worthless again.
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oops, too many p's
ina, alive! | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 11:18 am | #
they have medication for that, you know
(i wonder how many times we will be able to use that phrase today?)
Obama bopped Gramm right away -- it was on TV.
plantsman
You must be wrong because Obama has no idea how to run a campaign - I read it on the internet
Ha, ha! Teh pathetic ---IT BURNS!!!
The pathetic?
You tain't tawk pwain.
Fucking jackass.
i have a funf mark from when i road my bike around euprope.
savin' it for a rainy day.
what?
ina, alive!
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It was a comment on the massive inflation that is coming from all of the bailouts and govmint takeovers. The value of the dollar will be next to nothing. Bernanke is cranking up inflation as we speak. First the Bear Stearns bail out and then Paulson putting his foot down in the morning and picking it back up again in the afternoon, promising Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guvmint loans. There are consequences to all of these reassurances and bailouts. It seems we can't afford for these banks to fail, but it's also true that we can't afford for them not to, either. If they fail we are screwed and if we bail them out we are screwed. Nice work Bushies.
Snow:
You assume that if Obama says something, the press will report it.
Are you that clueless? Really? You haven't noticed the past six months of Big Media cocksuckery over Obamessiah? Good God. What an embarrassing lack of awareness.
I'm also investing in wheelbarrows.
So not too long from now we're all going to be hiding behind the couch trying to hide from China knocking on the door demanding the rent.
But let's hope Chuck Schumer doesn't send any more letters..
And we should have shot that kid who pointed out that the emperor had no clothes.
People here have been talking about not donating to Obama for days. That's not helping.
i have finished my post on mccain's birth control insurance debacle, which i am now going to shamelessly and unapologetically blogwhore and then go get some more coffee.
let simels apoligize for that.
I'm also investing in wheelbarrows.
NTodd, Super Grand Poomba
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Now that's a good plan.
Well, the festivities are here in St. Paul, and there's been lots of wrangling about marching routes and stuff, so it might be a little....feisty.
Zap Rowsdower
Careful. I read where Lucas Davenport was in charge of keeping order there.
he can apologize for my spelling while he's at it.
Obama bopped Gramm right away -- it was on TV.
that 'dr phil' line was just too funny. hell, even pat buchanan admired that zinger.
Hi NTodd! Are you still somewhere in the Great Midwest?
I'm also investing in wheelbarrows.
NTodd
Bring out yer dead!
Thank you, nona.
The world got even with GErmany after the first world war. They had massive unemployment and hardship. This was another reason for the Marshall Plan-to build Germany up so they wouldn't ever do it again.
We need a Marshall plan here.
What an embarrassing lack of awareness.
heh.
Peehole dissembles like a motherfucker.
What a buffoon.
What an embarrassing lack of awareness.
You are a lying coward. Consider that before you speak.
Someone leaked to me part of the speakers' agenda for day two of the convention. They're giving Rodney King and John Conyers' wife five minutes each.
They need to put together a spot where a young mom is sitting at the kitchen table crying over the choice of buying food or gas with the gramm quote and a picture of gramm and McWhatsAnEconomy? together stat.
NTodd, are youse guys in Chi now/tonight? Inquiring minds, etc.
Well, must be going. Good day and good luck!
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Obamessiah?
Now who else that posts here uses that?
NPR, the good little propaganda arm that they are, didn't bother to mention Tony Snow was a LIAR.
puppethead | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 11:20 am | #
perhaps they assume you have the republican dictionary.
deal with: verb
1. lie
2. cover up
I have a mental image of Bernanke and Paulson in little dutchboy outfits with their fingers in a bulging damn with new leaks popping up everywhere.
Wonder why?
classic:
We need a Marshall plan here.
To build who up? People who had no business taking out mortagages they couldn't afford in the first place?
Fuck that nonsense. Let people who live beyond their means get on their knees until they learn some common sense.
foolme1ns--i understood your comment. my comment was a typical ina semi non sequitor!
A brief but fitting tribute to the late Tony Snow.
They're gonna need more fingers, and bigger hands...
the joy division documentary is very good
highly recommended
All it comes down to for Peehole is that Obama's a black man.
That's it.
Tubbboy seethes with anger over that fact. It's eating his green-teef cracker ass up.
Well, I've been trying to introduce "Obama Soter" into the mix, but people without education don't understand what it means.
foolme1ns--i understood your comment. my comment was a typical ina semi non sequitor!
ina, alive!
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my apologies.
Remember yesterday I told you about the crazed anti-gay mayor of Fort Lauderdale and his appearance on local hate radio?
Well, one of the local hate radio station's managers e-mailed me this morning. He wasn't all too happy about what I said.
Nice one, Sinf.
Fuck that nonsense. Let people who live beyond their means get on their knees until they learn some common sense.
Like Bear Stearns?
Your stupidity knows no bounds, you goofy bastard.
Tobes, if you think the mortgage thing is the main problem you are slightly unaware.
Hi NTodd! Are you still somewhere in the Great Midwest?
Readying ourselves to depart WI on our way to my old haunts in NW OH!
Syd, when are you going to return Ian's stone to the constables?
but people without education don't understand what it means.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 11:28 am | #
sure we do.
it means that you are an asshole.
Tubbboy seethes with anger over that fact. It's eating his green-teef cracker ass up.
billy b | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 11:27 am | #
Good. It's more and more hemorrhoids for the dog burner, here on out.
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offshore drilling is already getting support from dems like dick durbin.
nona
As I mentioned this morning, my neighbors are all hepped up to bomb Iran. OMG, they have missiles, we're doomed! And these are not stupid people. They are, for the most part Dems, and they watch the news. And that is what they believe and no amount of arguing or fact checking is gonna change their minds. I despair.
Tobes, if you think the mortgage thing is the main problem you are slightly unaware.
Oh that's putting mildly. You are far too polite. Even the Queen Mum would have thought so in this case.
Like Bear Stearns?
Your stupidity knows no bounds, you goofy bastard.
billy b
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Bear Stearns, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Lehman Bros. Wachovia, Indymac, Citigroup, Countrywide, etc. etc. etc.
So not too long from now we're all going to be hiding behind the couch trying to hide from China knocking on the door demanding the rent.
catalexis
i wonder if that Richard Pryor bit is on youtube.
sinf - heh.
Git after 'em.
Like Bear Stearns?
Your stupidity knows no bounds, you goofy bastard.
billy b
have you read the vanity fair article about their demise. it's pretty interesting; and it looks like they were targeted by short-sellers. sec is investigating.
your mainstream media:
McCain's week was sometimes refreshingly human. One mother of six talked to him by telephone during a town hall Thursday night over the sound of swishing water: The Centreville, Va., woman was washing dishes as she and the candidate commiserated about the high cost of sugar. Hundreds of women warmly received him Friday in Hudson, where he said women would benefit when he cut taxes and would suffer should Obama win in November.
His aides declared themselves pleased with the week, the first since the campaign's management was reorganized. Senior advisor Mark Salter played down the difficulties and said the strategy of placing McCain on the high wire of town halls and lengthy discourses "feels right."
"His greatest appeal is when people get a sense of how authentic he is, when he says, 'I work for you, I don't work for anybody else. I work for my country,' " Salter said.
OMG, they have missiles
Are they aware that the launch of a Shahab-3 missile is entirely fictional? That Iran still has not mastered the tech necessary to launch long-range missiles?
Obama needs better surrogates. Been a dem problem forever.
A. Morphous
A near total lack of media smarts. Also too, these people speechify for a living, dammit, and the few who can do it at all well stand out like sore thumbs. Whyn't they study the communication arts in college, before they all head off to law school?
I'd vote for Thomas Sowell if he ran for the Presidency. Same goes for Corey Booker and probably even Colin Powell. Powell would have definitely won in '96 if his wife hadn't flaked out and forbidden him to run.
Except that if we can't buy all that cheap shit from China anymore, they've got a wee little problem of their own. Their internal markets aren't developed enought to keep their expansion going yet.
Countrywide is no more.
Readying ourselves to depart WI on our way to my old haunts in NW OH!
I recommend the Underground Railroad Museum in Ashtabula.
Well, I've been trying to introduce "Toby Shitnozzle" into the mix, but people with brainstems don't understand what it means.
That Iran still has not mastered the tech necessary to launch long-range missiles?
Snow (D-SC)
Can they reach the fifty permanent bases we have/plan-to-have in Iraq?
sure we do.
it means that you are an asshole.
heh.
Why Dirkly, old man, I think you understate. Asshole is the nicest description of Tubboy that would apply.
What happened to Indy Mac is what happens when you allow Ferengi slime like Phil Gramm to futz with the rules.
To build who up? People who had no business taking out mortagages they couldn't afford in the first place?
Fuck that nonsense. Let people who live beyond their means get on their knees until they learn some common sense.
Toby Petzold
First off, the lending agency makes a determination whether or not people can afford the mortgage.
Of course, situations change. People get laid off (especially in this Bush Boom! economy), get sick, have family emergencies (often medical, and we know how well that works if you're underinsured.)
More to the point, you could probably do with watching, even if you've seen it before, Capra's It's A Wonderful Life. Pay attention to what George Bailey (J. Stewart) tells Henry Potter (J. Barrymore) about waiting to afford a home.
That's right! Sink or swim! Let 'em all go down the drain! Let 'em...
...oops, hold on...someone's breaking into my home, trying to get at my Cheeto stash...gotta get my gun...
AAAAAUUGH! They're armed, too!
With my...dying...breath...I curse...Jesus...
As I mentioned this morning, my neighbors are all hepped up to bomb Iran. OMG, they have missiles, we're doomed! And these are not stupid people. They are, for the most part Dems, and they watch the news. And that is what they believe and no amount of arguing or fact checking is gonna change their minds. I despair.
qlª
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Unfortunately Dems can be stupid too. Watching the "news", with their 30 second in depth bits of misinformation will make you stupid.
Meanie:
A near total lack of media smarts.
No, that's been this White House's problem. It's crippled them many a time.
As I mentioned this morning, my neighbors are all hepped up to bomb Iran. OMG, they have missiles, we're doomed!
not stupid, just uninformed. it is depressing and there are days when i hear that kind of chest-thumping assholery that i really know this country is finished. that 44% support torture is the final nail.
my neighbors are all hepped up to bomb Iran. OMG, they have missiles, we're doomed! And these are not stupid people. They are, for the most part Dems, and they watch the news. And that is what they believe and no amount of arguing or fact checking is gonna change their minds.
not stupid? i may need to beg to differ. they may have their moments, but believing the sabre-rattling stupidity is pretty dumb
Can they reach the fifty permanent bases we have/plan-to-have in Iraq?
Oh hell yes. I said they haven't master long-range. They can do short-range easy.
have you read the vanity fair article about their demise. it's pretty interesting; and it looks like they were targeted by short-sellers. sec is investigating.
Haven't but will. Thanks.
The better half subscribes to VF. Great mag. I am a big fan of Graydon.
...one of the local hate radio station's managers e-mailed me this morning. He wasn't all too happy about what I said.
"Don't say we're HATE radio without knowing the full details of the story. "
Now that I know the "full details," can you send me that "Hate Radio" sticker?
my neighbors are all hepped up to bomb Iran.
Did they all march down to the recruiting center?
Seriously, could you ask them that question for me?
Asshole is the nicest description of Tubboy that would apply.
billy b
I favor "rancid, dripping sack of maggot-infested dick cheese" myself.
Sinfonian! You were in my dream last night! I finally got a cell phone (in the dream), and you were my first call! And since I don't actually ever use a cell phone, in the dream it operated like a cross between a fax & a computer: you sent me some text/manifesto and it was received electronically on a screen, but page by page with that fax sound...
and then i woke up.
(i think you were in there 'cause i saw a guy yesterday, in real life, in shorts and a short sleeve t-shirt with a vest over it. and for some reason i thought, 'sinfonian would wear that')
I recommend the Underground Railroad Museum in Ashtabula.
That's actually north of our route, since we're headed for central PA next--my birthplace.
I would also recommend staying in Lucille's Cottages in Geneva-on-the-Lake, but this is their busy season, they only rent out by the week.
not stupid, just uninformed.
Ummmm, no. They're stupid. Willfully so.
Don't tell anybody I said this, Derbes, but the consumer culture disturbs me deeply.
Waste not, want not.
I will never forget the shock of learning from my mortgage broker that I was suspect to The System because I didn't own (and still don't own) a credit card.
Are they aware that the launch of a Shahab-3 missile is entirely fictional? That Iran still has not mastered the tech necessary to launch long-range missiles?
Snow
Well I told em and the response was they don't have them *yet*, we must stop them before it is too late. About the best I could do was get one or two to agree that doing anything now, with this admin, would not be too wise. I'm just worried that the meme is out there now that Iran is the enemy and we have to do something.
s h e e t s
my neighbors are all hepped up to bomb Iran.
If the Iranian army were to invade southern Iraq now, it would be the most unspeakable sort of bloodbath for all involved. Bombing them now would be gobbing somebody in the eye when they have hold of your nutsack.
Obama needs better surrogates. Been a dem problem forever.
A. Morphous
A near total lack of media smarts.
i wanted to pull my hair out last nite after catching a david shuster segment about obama's financial support showing signs of slowing and how that translates into less enthusiasm for his campaign.
the dem hack was someone i've never seen before and utterly out of his depth. instead of aggressively challenging that statement with the previous day's pew results about the highest level of enthusiasm evah and a level of engagement among dems not seen in decades, he wimpily says that well, it's expected that once the nominee is decided, things calm down. but it will pick up. so, he completely legitimizes the shuster framing.
and then republican hack then came on and chewed up her airtime about all the travails plaguing the obama campaign -- clintonsclintonsclintons.
it's so fucking frustrating.
Thanks, ina.
Although I wouldn't wear a T-shirt with a vest. But thanks.
And thanks, too, billy b. Sometimes these morons need to be set straight.
HATE radio? Anyone who carries O'Reilly and Ingraham and Savage DEFINES hate radio.
(look out, spocko ... I'm next 
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Poor and low-income people purchase things on credit and impulse because they do not think. All they know is that they want. It's a mental illness to waste money on shit you don't need and that actually hurts you.
Iran has basically taken SCUD missile technology from North Korea and re-engineered it attempting to make it into a long-range, large warhead missile.
It is a SCUD missile, which is not long-range or large warhead.
It is North Korean technology, i.e. a copy of a Chinese copy of Russian technology. A copy of a copy is never quite as sharp as the original.
First off, the lending agency makes a determination whether or not people can afford the mortgage.
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The problem is all of these institutions got greedy and began lending to people who had no chance of repaying and the lenders knew it. They were telling people they could borrow without disclosing income and or fudging on other pertinent facts. Why would these businesses do this? Because they would turn right around and sell these bad mortgages to other institutions and make out like the bandits they were. The other institutions would do the same, and of course you got the mortgage insureres into the mix, bundling and sectioning off pieces of the bundles to investors. So you have a situation where, because of greed and everyone wanting their share of the easy money, everyone is going down the shitter at the same time, because the loans are all going belly up.
It was predatory lending at its very worst. This is what deregulation has brought us. An economy based wholly on greed and avarice with no fetters or brakes to stop it.
nona:
a david shuster segment about obama's financial support showing signs of slowing and how that translates into less enthusiasm for his campaign
But the metric is always that Obama's fundraising genius was a validation of his worth as a candidate. And now that it may be slowing ---what? Is the rationale just not as good anymore?
As I mentioned this morning, my neighbors are all hepped up to bomb Iran. OMG, they have missiles, we're doomed!
Can they find Iran on a map?
The leaders of Iran are not so psychotic that they don't realize that if by some miracle they succeded in lobbing a functional nuke at anybody, that would be the end of Iran in a matter of minutes.
Careful. I read where Lucas Davenport was in charge of keeping order there.
Gimlet
Give it up, it's hopeless...
Poor and low-income people purchase things on credit and impulse because they do not think. All they know is that they want. It's a mental illness to waste money on shit you don't need and that actually hurts you.
Tubboy of the blanket statement.
Jesus Christ on a cracker, this pimp gets more fucking delusional with each post.
not stupid, just uninformed.
Ummmm, no. They're stupid. Willfully so.
dave™©
you're right. and it's the 'willfully' that's so unforgiveable.
Well I told em and the response was they don't have them *yet*, we must stop them before it is too late.
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qlª
It's Cheney's One Percent Doctrine still going strong.
[Not to be confused with the The Seven-Per-Cent Solution, although a cocaine bender* can have the same effect.]
*Enter George W. Bush: "Whuh..what? Did I miss sumthin'?!"
Sinfonian lay the smack down on the bastages. Hear! Hear! *snap* Woop! Woop! Woop!
Nice answer.
I suppose if Iran were in real danger of being taken over by crazies, I'd be afraid of their missile technology too, but the truth of the matter is that they're in much more danger of being taken over by decent people. The current government is basically a turbanned mafia with Ahmedinejad as the mascot.
billy, why don't you drive through the "east side" of whatever town you're in and have a look at what goes on? Check-cashing places, pawn shops, liquor stores, and the ubiquitous convenience store where everything is abt a third higher than it ought to be. People are goddamned idiots. Maybe our economy depends on that, but it doesn't make it any less awful.
If you're smart, you can eat a full and healthy meal on just abt what a pack of menthols costs as Abu's local shit-dispensery with the bars on the windows and the bullet-proof lazy susans turning after dark.
I know abt Potterville, goddammit.
The leaders of Iran are not so psychotic that they don't realize that if by some miracle they succeded in lobbing a functional nuke at anybody, that would be the end of Iran in a matter of minutes.
That would be indeed miraculous. But they, like Iraq, find some defensive value in making people think they are more capable than they truly are.
That is classic military puffery strategy. Deception is a crucial part of military strategy. Only fools like Bush, McCain, Graham, and Lieberman don't understand that.
Non-white and poor people should kill themselves now.
"strong fundamentals"-McCombover
Far be it from me to give anyone investment advice, but funds exist. They tend to have 'hard currency' in the name. One favors the Euro to avoid interventions, another is more diversified toward emerging markets... Also some total return funds will diversify by currency, when they need to. Best to start with the prospectuses and then see if the annual reports scare you. Foreign bond funds are available too, and are said to give equivalent returns with less volatility. But inflation can complicate matters with them.
Yesterday the wailing was all stocks stocks stocks but 'riskless' US Treasuries dropped too. The only place to hide is far away.
Apparantly the thinking in Washington is that everything will be OK if they simply distract all of us from the economic meltdown by starting a nuclear war.
Mother.
Fuckers!
Bushie-boy just "amber lighted" the Iran war, which is virtually the same thing as green-lighting it. Have the best time you can for the next couple of months because that's pretty much what's left of your life and mine.
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