I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
true dat
the 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling line was fucking perfect.
a united Democratic Party is gonna make mincemeat out of these Thugs.
Good speech.
A big fu for not saying Clinton was a serious candidate in her own right for right now and for not taking a stronger stand against the sexist crap that took place in the media
and of course here comes the haters.
Whiners Local 286 is 3 blogs down and seven blogs over
baby steps??????????????
aren't you special NOT
for not taking a stronger stand against the sexist crap that took place in the media
Joker
Bullshit. That crap, especially from MSNBC, has been denounced in these threads from the beginning, by Clinton supporters and Obama supporters alike.
It is amazing that the first legitimate african american and woman candidates were in the same cycle.
I don't know when we will get a female president, but I agree that Clinton has cracked the ceiling.
Whiners Local 286 is 3 blogs down and seven blogs over
I'm sorry, that's abuse.... Stupid git.
I'd liked the line by Hillary that in the future, a woman running for high office won't be a big deal.
Baby steps: Don't want.
Allen Butler really needs to get a life.
Why do I see a fucking McCain ad every time I come on here?
I'd rather have Chevron back....
/rant
I don't know when we will get a female president, but I agree that Clinton has cracked the ceiling.
Along with people like Pelosi and the female governor and two female senators from my good state of Washington.
A big fu for not saying Clinton was a serious candidate in her own right for right now and for not taking a stronger stand against the sexist crap that took place in the media
Jeebus fucking crap...do you know how to read?
I do think that female candidates for president will be taken much more seriously in the future by our media.
I do, too. I also predict that the first female President won't be white.
I think Mrs. Atrios may be with child. If so, we can't wait for the pictures.
a prominent female senator or governor who attempts a run will be treated as a real candidate.
Your keyboard to the Goddess' monitor.
In the spirit of truthicality...
I'm not the real Stephen Colbert.
I just got off the phone w/ Zapette...I'm sad.
Breaking News.
WASHINGTON - The actress who played Wonder Woman on TV in the 1970s says she didn't do anything extraordinary when she discovered a body this week on the Potomac River in Washington.
Lynda Carter tells The Washington Post she was alone in a boat when she saw the body Wednesday. She says she didn't have a cell phone with her, so she yelled to some fishermen and asked them to call police. Carter waited until rescuers arrived and directed them to the body.
Weird.
Jeebus fucking crap...do you know how to read?
Fundamentals of Reading was not a required class at Texas A&M
This is a good crowd to waste Republican money on if you ask me.
Back from her speech with the one picture that I wish I'd gotten.
I'm not the real Stephen Colbert.
Well, I did not doubt you for a moment.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005...05/11/
MTNG.html
100 Most Powerful Women: NUMBER ONE
She is the first African-American woman to become the U.S. secretary of state. She advises the leader of the world's largest superpower and has an unparalleled level of trust with and access to the president. And she has served two other U.S. presidents, George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan. For all of these reasons, and more, Rice, 50, is the most powerful woman in the world.
After a four-year role as national security adviser, Rice assumed the mantle of secretary of state in January. Rice has played a key, behind-the-scenes role in all of President George W. Bush's major decisions. "During the last four years, I've relied on her counsel, benefited from her great experience and appreciated her sound and steady judgment," the president said when announcing Rice's promotion. Bush needs her now more than ever, as his approval ratings and credibility sag, his domestic agenda is stalled, and the country grows more bitterly divided over the war in Iraq.
With her steely nerve and delicate manners (she has been called the "Warrior Princess"), Rice lately has reinvigorated her position with diplomatic activism, whether it's promoting Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip to ease the Palestinian conflict, or encouraging six-party talks to get North Korea to stop its pursuit of nuclear weapons, or trying to stop Sudan's genocide—to the point where her diplomatic party was recently roughed up by Sudan's strongmen. Rice also has close relationships with world leaders, having accompanied the president on numerous trips to Europe and Iraq. Rice has visited 31 countries and logged in over 119,000 miles by midyear. An unofficial Web site proclaims, "Condoleezza Rice for President 2008," which might be a long-shot idea. But a run by Rice for the presidency would make history in the U.S.
Minor quibble with baby steps - she damn near won. Anyway, awesome speech from a remarkable woman, and a great Democrat. Bravo. Can't wait to kick Republican ass.
Hecate, you are wonder women.
I hope that someone is already looking at the 30-something women in politics, thinking about who should be making a Presidential Nomination bid in 2016.
Anyway, awesome speech from a remarkable woman, and a great Democrat
who voted for the Iraq War.
Blech.
The McCain ad? Use this.
Copy websites to your computer, httrack with a Web interface
WebHTTrack is an offline browser utility, allowing you to download a World
Wide website from the Internet to a local directory, building recursively
all directories, getting html, images, and other files from the server to
your computer, using a step-by-step web interface.
Then delete your copy of McCain's web site and repeat, many times.
Stunt Woman, I know that you find Hillary extremely distasteful. I disagree with her policy positions on many issues. But it's time to let it go.
A big fu for not saying Clinton was a serious candidate in her own right for right now and for not taking a stronger stand against the sexist crap that took place in the media
Joker | 06.07.08 - 3:09 pm | #
she wasn't married to a former president ever.
and she didn't have fossilized relics of his administration around her neck whispering sweet nothings...either.
Hecate, you are wonder women.
Blushes! Naw, I'm a grandma who wants my G/Son to have a better life. And, I am a patriot. We all are. And we have a chance to elect a great guy to the WH.
Hil talked today about how different the world would be if more than 3 of the last 10 elections had put Dems in the WH. I agree with her.
We should probably look at a woman who is 40-52ish now for 2016.
They would be 48 to 60 then.
aI kAN haz youNiTY noW?
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Then delete your copy of McCain's web site and repeat, many times.
Doug | 06.07.08 - 3:17 pm |
I'm way too lazy for all that.
Whateva- as someone pointed out, it's wasted money for McCaca
who voted for the Iraq War.
Blech.
Stunt Woman | 06.07.08 - 3:17 pm | #
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oh come on.
let the iraq war go.
its only foreigners mostly.
100 - 1.
who cares?
Stunt Woman, I know that you find Hillary extremely distasteful. I disagree with her policy positions on many issues. But it's time to let it go.
Maybe when I get over Lieberman I'll get over Hillary.
Hillary did many things. She put healthcare aggressively on the table, which is one of her policy positions that I liked. But more importantly, she has shattered the concrete ceiling that says, men only.
She's an important part of our history.
Are Hillary's 18 million voters all racists?
Back from her speech with the one picture that I wish I'd gotten.
If you have a chance, go back and take a picture of the lonely McCain cutout.
I don't suppose you know anyone who would loan you a pig to stand next to the McCain cutout.
baby steps referring to potential change in media treatment of women, not meaning her campaign.
They would be 48 to 60 then.
Would 63 be okay?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat...ki/
Patty_Murray
Stunt Woman, nah, there's no getting over Lieberman. He's the gift that keeps on giving--not unlike gonorrhea 
new media: move on
old media: more on
who voted for the Iraq War.
Blech.
Stunt Woman |
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Really, she didn't!
Are Hillary's 18 million voters all racists?
Bugs | 06.07.08 - 3:20 pm | #
No, because they're all going to vote for Obama.
Who gives a shit what the MSM does anymore...they are choking and spluttering and going the way of the dinosaurs
I see our resident Clinton pseudo-supporter is still here.
Has he slipped up and called it the Democrat Party again recently?
What a douche
Hecate, we had so much fun seeing Maddy 3 times this week! It was great. We hope that happens a lot more.
I do hope supervision for Mlle's visits is worked out. I don't think her ex should be supervising the visits, but apparently, during mediation, he offered her no other option. I'm shocked the mediator went for it.
Stunt Woman, nah, there's no getting over Lieberman. He's the gift that keeps on giving--not unlike gonorrhea -Sallyh
More inclined to think of the premanent effects of wood alcohol.
Atrios, I was referring to your future baby steps. BTW, I think you would be a great father. I hope you get the chance.
Blech.
Stunt Woman
Setting new standards for class.
I don't understand the tense of this posting. Is this coming to us from 1984?
Who gives a shit what the MSM does anymore...they are choking and spluttering and going the way of the dinosaurs
They're still louder than all hell. People still read newspapers/watch the Bobbleheads on Sundays.
It's not about "old media", it's about a new narrative.
Maybe when I get over Lieberman I'll get over Hillary.
Stunt Woman
Had Hillary today announced her intention to run for the Presidency as an Independent, I might find some validity in this comparison.
As it is, it's bogus.
Off to finish my work for today then go home.
What a pleasure, and an honor, to share the events of the day with you all.
Many more.
Auntie GWPDA!
How are you, lovely one? I hope you're having the same superb weather SoCal is experiencing right now.
Just got in from 27 holes on the North Shore....Anything happen in the news today?
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I don't understand the tense of this posting.
Present tense, I think, maybe I forgot, past tense? That's it!
QOTD:
Big Brown?
I got a good laugh out of this...
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/...hives/
9642.html
The speech was momentous. She showed what a classy lady she is. And f.u. to KO. I will probably never watch him again.
Has he slipped up and called it the Democrat Party again recently?
I bet his Quality Control officer has not let him hear the end of that fuck up.
Clean sheets, kids.
Delayed But Gracious Clinton Exit Leaves Fractured Party
But the somber faces that turned out to see Clinton end her campaign -- and the scattered boos that greeted her mentions of Obama's name -- suggested the lengths to which both Clinton and Obama must go to move beyond the battles of the longest primary season in history. - ABC News
DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER HEAL THE RIFT. OBAMA'S ONE WORLD SOCIALISM WILL NEVER FLY, NO MATTER HOW MUCH LIPSTICK HE PUTS ON THAT PIG. JOHN MCCAIN WILL BE THE NEXT POTUS
clinton was taken seriously this time, but she's a somewhat unique figure. I don't think that'll be as necessary in the future.
But more importantly, she has shattered the concrete ceiling that says, men only.
She's an important part of our history.
Yeah, she's "a part of our history" but Hillary's bid for the Presidency was not part of some focused lifelong "struggle" on her part to achieve rights for women.
It's about her struggle to become famous and powerful. She happens to be a woman.
It's like arguing about Jimmy Carter's struggle to show that our nation's peanut farmers can be president's too.
Projection.
People still read newspapers/watch the Bobbleheads on Sundays.
It's not about "old media", it's about a new narrative.
Zap Rowsdower...
Then we're in luck, Charles Gibson has been nearly reverential in his conversation about Obama lately. Whetever the wind blows in that strikes an emotional non-thinking chord, they'll pander to. It's the stuff the talking heads are made of. And that was my point about the MSM, we can't rely on them to switch into thoughtful consideration of much of anything.
Stunt Woman | 06.07.08 - 3:20 pm
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"Your candidate still sucks", eh? Jesus Christ in a popsicle! Get over yourself! Once more for the illiterates: She was addressing her supporters because it would be absolutely pointless to encourage Obama supporters to vote for him. What would have pleased you? Is there anything she could have possibly said to make you happy?
What would have pleased you?
"I will not seek a position as Vice-President."
auggiesback | 06.07.08 - 3:28 pm
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So ABC News says. I'm sure FAUX "News" will say essentially the same thing but that just proves how out of touch with reality they are.
"I will not seek a position as Vice-President."
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Pure media speculation. Oh, with a bit of paranoia and Clinton hate. Please don't insult us by pretending you are motivated by anything else.
"Your candidate still sucks", eh? It's like arguing about Jimmy Carter's struggle to show that our nation's peanut farmers can be president's too.
Projection.
Stunt Woman | 06.07.08 - 3:29 pm | #
george washington carver 08!!!!
Now the fun starts.
It will be very good for Obama to have Hillary Clinton on his side. Picture Senator Clinton taking apart poor old McSame, while our soon-to-be President Obama stands above the fray, acting presidential.
18 millions cracks in the ceiling!!!!
Anyone else notice Chris Mathews has been wearing a terrorist-style color scheme on his show lately? What's up with that?
Does he hate America or something?
When Shirley Chisholm ran in 1972, I thought the same thing. The sixties had already happened; this world of discrimination was behind us. Of course we'd have a woman president soon. Thirty-six years later it shouldn't be time for baby steps anymore. The whole primary was pitched in a dumbed-down way by the media and it's not, and should never have been viewed as a contest between women and African-Americans, a group that intersects. But the idea that Hilary's campaign bodes a new world for women, I'm just not seeing that anymore. Shirley Chisholm said, "The next time a woman runs, or a black, a Jew or anyone from a group that the country is 'not ready' to elect to its highest office, I believe that he or she will be taken seriously from the start." I'm not sure that that is what I just saw.
baby steps referring to potential change in media treatment of women, not meaning her campaign.
Atrios | 06.07.08 - 3:20 pm | #
Pathetic having to explain yourself
and trying to rationalize what you meant in the first place
deep thought --snark is what will kill the Obama campaign
"my campaign to be president of Piercing Pagoda is underway"-David Broder
Baby steps? Was that supposed to be sarcastic?
'Cos, geez...
By "Baby Steps," do you mean it only took 150 years to "give" women the vote, so that should keep us gals happy for a while longer?
Easy for you, a white male, to say "Baby Steps."
As a very liberal boomer female, I feel free to say this is nonsense. All you PCers seem to feel obliged to claim she was the victim of some huge amount of sexism, that she's somehow a feminist, and that she broke some supposed barrier. Has it somehow escaped notice that the Speaker of the House and president of Harvard are female, that we have had an increasing number of prominent female senators and governors and CEOs? That most candidates--and certainly Democratic ones--are subject to stupid criticism by the media of their looks, clothes, etc.? We didn't need Hillary and her nepotism--and her plagiarism of Edwards's health care plan and of untold lines and themes from Obama. In the interest of some bow to Democratic comity, I won't go on.
Jesus Duncan, bad choice of words, after the Obama endorsement
So women, who constitute more than half of the population, should be content with "baby steps" progress in American politics? What, we should be grateful for what we get and say thank you to the men for letting us be involved. Baby steps? I think not. The misogyny displayed during this election has got to end.
"Baby Steps"?
Aren't you a condescending jerk.
What Joker said, but to be clear, that's a big FU to Atrios for not standing up to the crap that went on.
That FU extends to Josh Marshall, Ezra Klein and Matt Y too.
Shame on all of you.
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