I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Again?
I have a dirty secret.
I love ramen noodles.
Can't be circling the bases again.
Page Not Found?
Stop!
Ooooh man, round third and sliding into home
Link doesn't work.
No home run for Ramen-noodle lover.
Not much substance at the top.
Speaking of broken... the link's kicking back.
Speaking of broken, the link is.
The girl in the "Together Christian" ad must be showing us a wonderful side view of how moral she is...
"Speaking of broken... the link's kicking back."
Hey!
Atrios fixed the link! The A-List bloggers don't hate us!
d take a hostage of Burton Cummings.
Be there, babe.
steve simels
you can keep him! But we want Neil Young back!
Sen. Charles Schumer (Dipstick-NY) is a Ramen noodle.
Mukasy says, "Thanks, sucker!"
GravatarAnd all you people suck. All you have is criticism based on my typo and you have no substance and I'm smarter than you.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:20 pm | #
WATB.
K Kid not first???
HA HA HA HA HA!
You can find the link if you back up to the home page:
http://alicublog.blogspot.com/
Some people are wildly unrealistic. I have a friend who got fleeced online thinking that a Siberian super model 15 years his junior had chosen him of all people in the Western Hemisphere to fall in love with. This guy is not stupid, far from it. But when a complete stranger asked him for money so that she could get a visa to visit him in the USA, he was blinded by a picture. Men are more easily governed by their vices than their virtues.
Hopefully NTodd taught those junior high kids all about stuff like this at this internet safety course.
Dammit - I'm away all week and walk in to find Atrios huffing espresso beans.
i'm 2 hours away from NTodd in Vermont. Montreal - Philly is less than 2 hours by plane, tickets around 450$ from what i could find out (what's the best website to by plane tickets by the way)
plum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:18 pm | #
http://www.itasoftware.com/
You'll click on search airfares, you don't have to register.
You don't buy from this site, you go to the airline site.
I think these people are just broken.
I thinks you have to get on my time line.
Now I will read post.
Plum, from below:
My father's family was Quebecois. They immigrated to Mass. My father's school day was half English, half French, but like many immigrant kids, he was ashamed of his heritage, and "unlearned" the french he spoke in his childhood home. Believe it or not, he now claims to be a southerner.
I love ramen noodles.
So do I!
And it's a good thing, since that's mostly what I eat.
Now does that not make me a sexy bachelor?
Men are more easily governed by their vices than their virtues.
I've yet to see a study demonstrating a gender effect for stupidity.
Uhhh (from the link):
Common female contradictions:
I want equality, so treat me special just because Im a woman.
I want an assertive guy, who always does what I want"...
Let women figure out their own shit. Have lots of sex with them in the meantime.
If I was writing a relationship book for men here would be the thesis: dont have them.
I feel like kicking shins right now.
(from downstairs)
No wolf, but walking home from seeing The Kooks last night, I did see a fox.
BTW, those crazy nutty kidz may be the next Clash, or may only think they are, but either way they are quite something.
JeffCO
if you like the Kooks, check The Young Knives. I like them more and it's in the same type of music. But a bit edgier.
Hopefully NTodd taught those junior high kids all about stuff like this at this internet safety course.
I did, in fact. Started with a video of lonelygirl15 and I asked them what they knew about her. All sorts of "facts" they told me, then I burst the bubble.
I also asked if they believed I'm a 15yo girl. Fortunately, they did not...
I feel like kicking shins right now.
That was a Bad Company B-side, wasn't it?
Men are more easily governed by their vices than their virtues.
My cock is NOT a vice.
i learned from the story below that link that the des moines register found Alan Keyes to be a serious candidate worthy of debate time.
the press! The free press. A priceless guardian of Truth.
My cock is NOT a vice.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:25 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Cock and vice... two words that cause shivers of discomfort when used in the same sentence.
i'm 2 hours away from NTodd in Vermont. Montreal - Philly is less than 2 hours by plane, tickets around 450$ from what i could find out (what's the best website to by plane tickets by the way)
plum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:18 pm
Or consider Amtrak, Montreal to NYC, NYC to Philly:
http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/Co...092695&
ssid=134
My cock is NOT a vice.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:25 pm | #
Let us not speak of cocks in vices.
Hold on ...
Dr. Helen is married to InstaWanker? Really?
'cuz she's kinda hawt. I mean, if you don't listen to anything she says or read anything she writes.
HTF did Glenn manage that? Fascists attract?
Simple. thems what's getting sex don't spend that much time online looking nor bitching. Them's what ain't it becomes their entire lives.
Rather like certain crusaders against something - say Teh Gaii or child molesting - that turn out to be Teh Gaii or Chester the Molester. It was the frustrated obsession that led to the full-time career in the first place.
Or better, the Xtian who wants everyone to have sex only rarely, in marriage, to the first person who ever put out for them, and it makes a child. Because that's what they got, and they don't want someone else having more fun than that.
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i learned from the story below that link that the des moines register found Alan Keyes to be a serious candidate worthy of debate time.
It's because he pulled a stunt at their office ala Sheriff Bart when he first arrived in town...
Amy Sedaris on Wha'd'ya Know? this week. I am aswoon.
Well this sums it up
BTW men have the internet now.
It is not as good as sex with a competent woman but it is a heck of a lot cheaper and you get Instapundit, Dr. Helen, IEC Fusion Technology, and Power and Control at no extra charge.
Sinf, buddy, you, er, took a cab home at the late hour, right?
"Let us not speak of cocks in vices."
vise grips are out of the question then?
Still broken. How about some sad broken cat blogging:
http://malcolmxpark.org/?p=685
You don't buy from this site, you go to the airline site.
Buckeye
merci!
MOE: kool! Bousquet is a ver french name indeed. How do you pronounce it? The "t" at the end is silent in french, do you pronounce it?
Fuk all this "Relationships with real women" shit, what happened to the soft looking woman in the ad? This one is a marrionette version of Nancy Reagan.
Sinf, buddy, you, er, took a cab home at the late hour, right?
Moe Szyslak, employed
I was out late, but I didn't drink much ... maybe a beer an hour, max ... so I drove. No worries, but thanks.
"I've yet to see a study demonstrating a gender effect for stupidity."
Ha.
ok, never mind, link's back!
Not much substance at the top.
Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 1:19 pm | #
I'm betting there's a load in your pants, however.
i learned from the story below that link that the des moines register found Alan Keyes to be a serious candidate worthy of debate time.
Several years ago I saw Alan Keyes perform, and I saw Alicia Keys perform. All in all, I prefer Alicia.
Depending on who the nominee is, maybe NTodd could be on the ticket as Vice Cock.
plum: I pronounce it the Quebec way. When I crossed over the border into Quebec a while back, the customs guy talked to me about my name for like 15 minutes. Said it was very beautiful.
miss november is disturbingly michael jackson-ish.
Bousquet is a ver french name indeed. How do you pronounce it?
Throatwarbler Mangrove.
My favorite one is:
the sex is over when she has an orgasm
Some people are just born suckers.
Or consider Amtrak, Montreal to NYC, NYC to Philly:
Buckeye
i thought about it, but it takes too long, i'll fly if i do come
Power and Control
Fucking perverts.
Or consider Amtrak, Montreal to NYC, NYC to Philly:
That's what I'm hoping to do. Would've for my DC trip, but timing was too tight. And now this stupid storm...wonder if Amtrak has better reliability in such weather?
Depending on who the nominee is, maybe NTodd could be on the ticket as Vice Cock.
Sinfonian, poking beehives | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:30 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Otherwise known as "Best Man".
if you like the Kooks, check The Young Knives. I like them more and it's in the same type of music. But a bit edgier. plum p
Thanks for the ref! You're a peach, you're a, umm, plum.
"Let us not speak of cocks in vices."
vise grips are out of the question then?
The Playboy Advisor was once asked what was the weirdest question he ever fielded. Turned out to be
"I jack off with sandpaper. Do I have a problem?"
Advisor's answer : "Not for long".
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i guess instacrap is supporting Hucksterbee, used religion salesman
If I come, I'm taking the ferry across to Portland, then Amtrak down.
I haven't started looking at EschaCon flights yet. It just seems so ... distant (time-wise).
plum p,better democrats please:
Posted this downstairs, but in case you didn't see it:
If you DON'T come to EschaCon, I will personally fly to Saskatoon and take Burton Cummings hostage.
Be there, babe.
"I jack off with sandpaper. Do I have a problem?"
I could have lived a long life without knowing that...
Any Canucks want to explain Narduwar to me? He just sent me a dvd, a cd, and a rather odd note
Said it was very beautiful.
Moe Szyslak
it is! It's not that common here. It comes from "bosquet" which is a little wood area
Depending on who the nominee is, maybe NTodd could be on the ticket as Vice Cock.
NTodd, Cockmaster General
Vice On
Apply directly to the cock
nardwuar, that is
If you DON'T come to EschaCon, I will personally fly to Saskatoon and take Burton Cummings hostage.
There *is* a god...
I'm betting there's a load in your pants, however. steve simels
steve, steve, steve... must I remind you the non killfile buzz harshing way to quote trolls is this: Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 1:19 pm | #
Any Canucks want to explain Narduwar to me? He just sent me a dvd, a cd, and a rather odd note
Atrios
OOooooh!
He likes you!
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Malkin in a cheerleader get-up...
Thanks for the ref! You're a peach, you're a, umm, plum.
JeffCO | 12.15.07 - 1:31 pm | #
The nectarine!!
Half a peach, half a plum.
It's a heck of a fruit!!!
And speaking of a heck of a fruit, how's Econ 102 doing today?
I think these people are just broken.
Yep. That pretty well sums it up. There's a lot of wiring in the human body, and some people simply are not properly connected.
Quite a few of those mis-wired people seem to wind up in Congress...
Posted this downstairs, but in case you didn't see it:
If you DON'T come to EschaCon, I will personally fly to Saskatoon and take Burton Cummings hostage.
Then I'm reposting:
Guess Who's Coming To EschaCon?
"I'm surprised nobody mentioned Malkin in a cheerleader get-up..."
well, you're dealing with quality people here. we have manners.
i guess instacrap is supporting Hucksterbee, used religion salesman
Liars for Bush | 12.15.07 - 1:32 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Answering Atrios' question below, seems to me the conservatarians are down on Huckabee because while they like religion when they feel confident about their chances, they don't like it when it makes losing more likely.
They can't win with him or without his supporters, and it makes them crazy.
I agree that they're broken. The more interesting question is: how did they get broken? Who broke them?
the sex is over when she has an orgasm
now, i'm thinking that if he hasn't finished by then, he's not going to. perhaps he should try something different. like a boy.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Malkin in a cheerleader get-up...
andrew
Old news.
How about Malkin in fatigues? 
steve, steve, steve... must I remind you the non killfile buzz harshing way to quote trolls is this: Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 1:19 pm | #
JeffCO | 12.15.07 - 1:34 pm | #
Sorry, kiddo. I enjoy baiting him, what can I say????
"And speaking of a heck of a fruit, how's Econ 102 doing today?"
end of last thread there's a classic - like a parody quite from mao's little red book.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Malkin in a cheerleader get-up...
We'd rather discuss masterbation with 60 grit sandpaper.
Get with the program bub!
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I agree that they're broken. The more interesting question is: how did they get broken? Who broke them?
Jeff Gannon, care to comment?
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Any Canucks want to explain Narduwar to me? He just sent me a dvd, a cd, and a rather odd note
Atrios
The human serviette? He's a west-coast excentric
http://www.nardwuar.com/
I meant a Dr.Helen's. Not here. I know this place is far too refined for that kind of talk.
"How about Malkin in fatigues?"
thank you, no.
Any Canucks want to explain Narduwar to me? He just sent me a dvd, a cd, and a rather odd note
Atrios
He's been doing interviews up there for...Christ, at least 15 years, IIRC. Talks in a funny voice and acts goofy, but is actually pretty smart and good at putting interviewees on the spot.
I think he does some musical stuff too, now and again. But mostly he's just a "character."
Don't the Republicans want to drill Nardwuar?
HEY! I AM "the plum" HERE, kapitch?
Sorry, kiddo. I enjoy baiting him, what can I say???? steve simels
And you are an accomplished hooker, but still.
"Sorry, kiddo. I enjoy baiting him, what can I say????|"
that makes you an econbaiter!!
Just remember he's smarter than you.
They can't win with him or without his supporters, and it makes them crazy.
Ding ding ding!!!!!
Nice to see ya bub, last week's nudi was possibly my favorite ever. I'll have to check out this weeks offering.
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The best thing to do when wrong is to start swearing and namecalling, then keep it up forever. That makes one right.
Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 1:28 pm | #
Fuck you, asswipe.
Men are more easily governed by their vices than their virtues.
My cock is NOT a vice.
Precisely. Perhaps teaching people that sex is a vice is what breaks them.
now, i'm thinking that if he hasn't finished by then, he's not going to. perhaps he should try something different. like a boy.
Damn, that's calling it a night early. Where's the chance for multiples?
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What happens when the system is broken beyond repair. Tom Jefferson said it would be time to kill it and start over. No, can't do that we just might miss pro football or the coming steroid ball season. This country is screwed. If we think Obama or Clinton is the answer, we are mo-rons.
Nice to see ya bub, last week's nudi was possibly my favorite ever. I'll have to check out this weeks offering.
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UNE_PuffTheMagicNegro | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:38 pm | # [kill]
Likewise...been missing you! Seems like you haven't been around much lately.
Everythign going well, I hope?
BTW, I just looked at the link, and Atrios is right -- those people are broken.
Hell, if I can have sex without giving a woman my credit card number first, anybody can.
the sex is over when she has an orgasm
My experience in these matters is that one orgasm usually begats another, but I admit my evidence is primarily anecdotal and limited to very few subjects...
Miss November kind of scares me.
Perhaps teaching people that sex is a vice is what breaks them.
I think that's part of it.
HEY! I AM "the plum" HERE, kapitch? plum p
All apple logies.
Miss November kind of scares me.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Someone said Michael Jacksonish - I was thinkin' Joan Collins.
"i thought about it, but it takes too long, i'll fly if i do come"
No comment, Moe?
What happens when the system is broken beyond repair. Tom Jefferson said it would be time to kill it and start over. No, can't do that we just might miss pro football or the coming steroid ball season. This country is screwed. If we think Obama or Clinton is the answer, we are mo-rons.
Ahem.
So what are you prepared to do about that?
Miss November kind of scares me.
Agreed; but unlike September, she doesn't derail my train of thought........
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Just remember he's smarter than you.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 12.15.07 - 1:38 pm | #
On one of the earlier threads, there was a romance blooming between him and mimi.
How smart can he be?
"the sex is over when she has an orgasm"
nah - when I have one cause it makes me sleepy.
"And speaking of a heck of a fruit, how's Econ 102 doing today?"
end of last thread there's a classic - like a parody quite from mao's little red book.
His main goal is to be a troll, but he also desperately wants to be taken seriously. A fool's mixture if there ever was one. Odd how he can't figure that the former negates any chances of the latter.
Fun with Paulistas (not a blogwhore)
"i thought about it, but it takes too long, i'll fly if i do come"
No comment, Moe?
You really are a fucktard.
"How smart can he be?"
Just ask - he'll tell you.
Boats and trains in North America are very carbon-intensive. But as long as it seems more righteous, that's all that matters.
On one of the earlier threads, there was a romance blooming between him and mimi.
How smart can he be?
Hey, I dated mimi for a while, so back off.
How smart can he be?
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:41 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Smart enough to invent mimi, I betcha.
Pretty dumb, in other words.
What if your nasty customs people don't let me in because i'm a dangerous poster on Eschaton? What if they arrest me and send me to Gitmo, will you all save moi? Will i become your cause clbre?
Sorry, kiddo. I enjoy baiting him, what can I say????
Steve is like a cat playing with a mouse he's just caught.
This video should really be called the Gwar on Christmas:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sZeWypzk9dw
Ms. November reminds me of Joel Grey in Caberet.
"he also desperately wants to be taken seriously. A fool's mixture if there ever was one."
I've said it and others have said it to him - stop acting so goddam arrogant and maybe you wouldn't get any shit.
Way too late now.
If we think Obama or Clinton is the answer, we are mo-rons.
If we think anyone -- any one -- leader is the answer, we're morons. This is a country of "we the people." No one leader, I don't care who it is, can be "the answer."
And now this stupid storm...wonder if Amtrak has better reliability in such weather
The storm out here shut it down for a few days from Eugene to Vancouver BC. Slides, trees down, etc.
Boats and trains in North America are very carbon-intensive. But as long as it seems more righteous, that's all that matters.
Repeat: you're a fucktard.
merci!
MOE: kool! Bousquet is a ver french name indeed. How do you pronounce it? The "t" at the end is silent in french, do you pronounce it?
plum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:28 pm |
Or sidestep or kayak:
http://www.sidestep.com/
http://www.kayak.com/
Hell, if I can have sex without giving a woman my credit card number first, anybody can.
steve simels
I hope you're right.
so how many of you boys have already bought that calendar -------------------------
I've said it and others have said it to him - stop acting so goddam arrogant and maybe you wouldn't get any shit.
You talking to me?
Seems like you haven't been around much lately.
Haven't had the time that I used to to invest in hanging out here
Everything going well, I hope?
Yes indeed!
I have to say that the lemon drop Nudi for this week has me reconsidering the existence of an invisible sky buddy.
/hyperbole
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If we think Obama or Clinton is the answer, we are mo-rons.
hilldick | 12.15.07 - 1:39 pm | #
Primary challenges, bitches.
I don't care who the Dem president is -- the current crop of congresscritters has to replaced, with precious few exceptions.
If we think Obama or Clinton is the answer, we are mo-rons.
Alan Iverson is the answer.
Damn, that's calling it a night early. Where's the chance for multiples?
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Cynicus |
for practiced and sensitive people, sure. but the trolls at the post? i think not. the tone suggests to me that he resents having to service a woman at all. i've heard from online sex workers that it's a type, and a common one: men who aren't interested in anything other than getting off, and are happiest when no one else is except for themselves. i suppose that attitude is why they're paying for it.
Ms. November reminds me of Joel Grey in Caberet.
ql
That was such a good movie.
Boats and trains in North America are very carbon-intensive. But as long as it seems more righteous, that's all that matters.
"The good is the enemy of the best", or, alternatively, "I'm not going to instigate a solution until I have a perfect solution, so, since this sinking ship doesn't have the very best lifeboats, I'll wait for some to be delivered."
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Wow, that's some outfit Miss November is wearing.
She also looks just a tad like Jack Nicholson in Batman.
Will i become your cause clbre?
You'll never slip through if you insist on all those diacritical marks.
The storm out here shut it down for a few days from Eugene to Vancouver BC. Slides, trees down, etc.
Was that a rain storm, or snow?
Alan Iverson is the answer.
Indeed.
"You talking to me?"
Hell no. if i was i'd a said stop acting so obnoxious.
so how many of you boys have already bought that calendar -------------------------
plum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:45 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
You mean for a friend, right?
You really are a fucktard.
NTodd
I still prefer "fucking idiot."
...Shackletonian missives from their lonely arctic outpost.
Wrong end of the world
I don't care who the Dem president is -- the current crop of congresscritters has to replaced, with precious few exceptions.
Congress is a disaster area, starting with Reid and Pelosi.
Both of them should be on the same tumbrel as El Fucktardo Maximo and Darth Cheney.
Was that a rain storm, or snow?
Oodles and oodles of rain. Snow in mountains, but melt off was not the issue.
"so how many of you boys have already bought that calendar"
not me. the internet brings me more better nudie pics for free.
"I jack off with sandpaper. Do I have a problem?"
________________________________________
Hey, I started jacking off with sandpaper during Labor Day weekend!
And the beauty part is that now it doubles as toilet paper on the downstroke!
[rim shot?]
Primary challenges, bitches.
Afuckingmen.
That's been kinda my point about not wanting a "strong" exec (why yes, I did do a Paxcast on this). Congress needs revamping and must (re)assert itself as the closest representation of The People (yeah, sorry, Phila) at the Federal level. Fuck this unitary exec bullshit, and pinning hopes on a president.
i've heard from online sex workers that it's a type, and a common one: men who aren't interested in anything other than getting off, and are happiest when no one else is except for themselves.
I'm sure that's true, but I'm reminded of what Celine (the writer, not the awful Canadian singer) said:
The only real perversion is the inability to love.
This is a country of "we the people." No one leader, I don't care who it is, can be "the answer."
Hecate, remember when I went to cheer on the Surge Protection Brigade? The Seriously Pissed Off Grannies received justice. NTodd told me to "whore this bitch".
http://www.paxamericana.net/2007...usly-
pisse.html
Environment Canada says tomorrow's storm is coming from Texas. Weird, dat.
That was such a good movie.
footloose
Yup.
I actually saw it on Broadway in previews about 1966, iirc. A friend's father reviewed shows for Variety so I got to see several shows that way.
I have to say that the lemon drop Nudi for this week has me reconsidering the existence of an invisible sky buddy.
/hyperbole
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UNE_PuffTheMagicNegro | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:45 pm | # [kill]
It's all part of my "wedge strategy."
Teach the controversy!
Or sidestep or kayak:
http://www.sidestep.com/
http://www.kayak.com/
Buckeye
thanks! all flights are around 470$-500$ so far. Which is what i expected. I won't reserve before the new year anyway.
The only real perversion is the inability to love.
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:48 pm | #
To bad he didn't think becoming a nazi supporter was a perversion.
Environment Canada says tomorrow's storm is coming from Texas. Weird, dat.
Moe Szyslak
Texas is the root of all evils...
I can't believe this was randomized.
Thank Ghu, ChiDyke. For the life of me i couldn't imagine you as being "an' it wer't best done, t'wer best done quickly".
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What if they arrest me and send me to Gitmo, will you all save moi? Will i become your cause clbre?
plum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:43 pm | #
plum, cher, this place is lousy with lawyers -- we've got you covered.
Face it: You're coming to EschaCon.
i've heard from online sex workers that it's a type, and a common one: men who aren't interested in anything other than getting off, and are happiest when no one else is except for themselves.
Which is why online sex sucks, as far as I'm concerned.
Hecate, remember when I went to cheer on the Surge Protection Brigade? The Seriously Pissed Off Grannies received justice. NTodd told me to "whore this bitch".
I saw that at Pax. V. cool! That's what it's going to take: all of us acting as if we were citizens in a participatory democracy instead of consumers.
"The good is the enemy of the best", or, alternatively, "I'm not going to instigate a solution until I have a perfect solution, so, since this sinking ship doesn't have the very best lifeboats, I'll wait for some to be delivered."
What does that have to do with my comment? There's plenty of great solutions out there, but diesel Amtrak, Greyhound, and theoretical transoceanic ferries and blimps are not among them.
Congress needs revamping and must (re)assert itself as the closest representation of The People (yeah, sorry, Phila) at the Federal level. Fuck this unitary exec bullshit, and pinning hopes on a president.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:48 pm | # [kill]
I don't mind it in this context. I just mind it when people say "The American people believe ______."
Treating it as the abstraction it is = OK.
That's a first - the words "reliable" and "Amtrak" in the same sentence.
I always that that it was supposed to be "when she has an orgasm, the sex has begun."
NTodd told me to "whore this bitch".
SHAKE YOUR MONEYMAKER, YOU WHORE!
If we think Obama or Clinton is the answer, we are mo-rons.
"Democratic Nominees for $800 Alex."
"Obama or Clinton."
"What is 'We are mo-rons'?"
"I'm sorry. The correct answer is "You are a moron."
The only real perversion is the inability to love.
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:48 pm | #
To bad he didn't think becoming a nazi supporter was a perversion.
Hey, he loooved the snappy uniforms!
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To bad he didn't think becoming a nazi supporter was a perversion.
rootless-e | 12.15.07 - 1:49 pm | #
Hey -- the guy who wrote the Ring Cycle was a nazi prick.
Where is it written that great artists can't be assholes?
Huh. We have to have a war if Iran has nuclear weapons. And, we have to have a war if Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. AP:
JERUSALEM - Israel's public security minister warned Saturday that a U.S. intelligence report that said Iran is no longer developing nuclear arms could lead to a regional war that would threaten the Jewish state.
In his remarks Israel's harshest criticism yet of the U.S. report Avi Dichter said the assessment also cast doubt on American intelligence in general, including information about Palestinian security forces' crackdown on militant groups. The Palestinian action is required as part of a U.S.-backed renewal of peace talks with Israel this month.
Dichter cautioned that a refusal to recognize Iran's intentions to build weapons of mass destruction could lead to armed conflict in the Middle East.
He compared the possibility of such fighting to a surprise attack on Israel in 1973 by its Arab neighbors, which came to be known in Israel for the Yom Kippur Jewish holy day on which it began.
"The American misconception concerning Iran's nuclear weapons is liable to lead to a regional Yom Kippur where Israel will be among the countries that are threatened," Dichter said in a speech in a suburb south of Tel Aviv, according to his spokesman, Mati Gil. "Something went wrong in the American blueprint for analyzing the severity of the Iranian nuclear threat."
It's all part of my "wedge strategy."
Teach the controversy!
Brilliant!!!!!!
Simels had sex with a woman and did not pay for it????!!!???
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"If we think anyone -- any one -- leader is the answer, we're morons. This is a country of "we the people." No one leader, I don't care who it is, can be "the answer.""
Yep.
You'll never slip through if you insist on all those diacritical marks.
JeffCO
do you see those when i type them of just fucked up symbols?
/ / / / etc.
So Moe, how does your book differ from "Heat"?
A friend's father reviewed shows for Variety so I got to see several shows that way.
ql
How cool. Besides my kids being good cooks and readers, I enjoy the fact they turn their friends on to musicals. Last night I came home and my daughter had girlfriends over to watch Pajama Game!
UNE_PuffTheMagicNegro:
Dude -- please tell me that you will be attending EschaCon.
"The good is the enemy of the best", or, alternatively, "I'm not going to instigate a solution until I have a perfect solution, so, since this sinking ship doesn't have the very best lifeboats, I'll wait for some to be delivered."
What does that have to do with my comment? There's plenty of great solutions out there, but diesel Amtrak, Greyhound, and theoretical transoceanic ferries and blimps are not among them.
Somebody help me out. This is heavy-handed irony, right?
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I don't get in coversations with fucking idiots. And anyway, I'm off ot the gym. See ya'all later.
Face it: You're coming to EschaCon.
steve simels
well if Molly can get Redd Kross to play Eschacon, them i'm there FOR SURE!
Oh, god, Econ 102 is still on about mass transit?
Were you guys here the other day when he literally wept about a terrible trip he had on a Greyhound bus once?
I'm not making this up...apparently it scarred the poor wittle thing for life.
"This is heavy-handed irony, right?|"
no...
it's econ 102.
the confusion is, however, understandable.
Nap time.
Catch you patriotz laterz.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, this is about conservative men buying brides off the internets and getting ripped off because their bank accounts and penises and likabilty were really minute in the 1st place?
They need sex robots! (before they reinstitute slavery) Seriously, stuff has backed up into their brains and 100% of the people who voted for bush just need freaking orgasms with another organism in the room to share the experience - probably couldn't do better than sex robots!
Where is it written that great artists can't be assholes?
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:52 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
In Sting's autobiography.
"Were you guys here the other day when he literally wept about a terrible trip he had on a Greyhound bus once?"
yes. and if it was up to the company, it wouldn't have happened.
"Somebody help me out. This is heavy-handed irony, right?"
What's ironic about it?
"Something went wrong in the American blueprint for analyzing the severity of the Iranian nuclear threat."
Moe Szyslak
In this week's Nation they the editors say that in 2003 Iran sent a letter to the U.S. saying they would basically capitulate to almost all our demands, ending the nuclear program, stop supporting Hamas and Hezbollah, no more inciting Iraqis, etc. We completely ignored it. Didn't even send a thank you note.
Reminds me of the story of Saddam saying he would go into exile if the U.S. would just not start bombing. We ignored that too.
Bye MOE.
by the way, it looks like the opposition will provoke the fall of the Harpeur govt on the environment issue. Probably before the budget. Maybe less than a month before we go in elections!
do you see those when i type them of just fucked up symbols? / / / / etc. plum p
When you type, I can really love.
What if they arrest me and send me to Gitmo, will you all save moi? Will i become your cause clbre?
plum p,better democrats please
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What, you have a problem with lemon chicken, rice pilaf, and two kinds of fruit?
"I don't get in coversations with fucking idiots."
Quite the opposite.
Dude -- please tell me that you will be attending EschaCon.
I will do my best to make it there! I presume that I will not have to stalk you down as I did on my last trip to NYC?
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That's what it's going to take: all of us acting as if we were citizens in a participatory democracy instead of consumers.
Yes!
Right now it's a simplex--or maybe half-duplex at best--relationship. Like we're just watching TV and seeing the politics go by on the screen. Not surprising since we've grown complacent over two centuries of expansion. All those Orange and other rainbow revolutions happened recently in countries without a tradition/history of participatory democracy and they relish it--they'll become stagnant some day, too.
Which is why Jefferson said a little revolution now and then is a good thing. We just kinda forgot--victims of our own success, it seems.
In Sting's autobiography.
Phila
sting is no "artiste". HE'S EVIL!
What, you have a problem with lemon chicken, rice pilaf, and two kinds of fruit?
70 Visitors Online
it's the orange outfit that disgusts me. But the weather is nice!
Pajama Game!
footloose
At about 2 or 3 my kids went nuts for Pirates of Penzance. The love of musicals and appreciation of music has stayed with them even now that they are all growed up. sniff.
Hey -- the guy who wrote the Ring Cycle was a nazi prick.
Um...he might've been a protofascist, but he couldn't have been a Nazi.
"Something went wrong in the American blueprint for analyzing the severity of the Iranian nuclear threat."
"Stupid goyisher kopfs, off script again."
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Bush's steadfast stand against Democratic spending, coupled with his
equally resolute opposition to tax increases, could raise the federal
debt this fiscal year by nearly $240 billion. As Democrats struggle to
meet his demands, they are jettisoning renewable-energy and
conservation incentives that Bush championed, and they may ax some of
his most cherished programs.
Even some Republicans bristle at the president's inflexibility. Bush
has pledged never to sign bills with tax increases, even tax increases
that he once supported.
"I see the president trying to play catch-up in two years for not
vetoing anything in the first six years, and probably regretting that
he treated the Republican Congress with softer gloves than he did a
Democrat Congress," said Sen. Charles E. Grassley
(Iowa), the conservative ranking Republican on the Senate Finance
Committee. "He's kind of waking up to the necessity of having a certain
policy that ought to be consistently followed, even if it's
irrational."
When will this Bush error end?
Wow, I was just watching something called Young America's Foundation on CSpan. This is where all the young conservatives are coming from: www.yaf.org
Is there anything comparable on the left? I don't think so.
sting is no "artiste". HE'S EVIL!
plum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:58 pm | #
Young lady, just stop that.
He just sent my friend Laura the Rock and Roll Travel Agent some very nice flowers for her birthday. She loves him, and she's got very good taste.
Um...he might've been a protofascist, but he couldn't have been a Nazi.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:59 pm | #
Picky, picky, picky. Nazi with a small n....
"Is there anything comparable on the left?"
PIRG?
sting is no "artiste". HE'S EVIL!
plum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:58 pm | # [kill]
Plum's sense of humor and mine don't quite seem to sync up sometimes...
sting is no "artiste". HE'S EVIL!
plum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:58 pm | #
Young lady, just stop that.
He just sent my friend Laura the Rock and Roll Travel Agent some very nice flowers for her birthday. She loves him, and she's got very good taste.
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:01 pm | #
Feyd is such a lovely boy.
Nap sounds good about now.
I will do my best to make it there! I presume that I will not have to stalk you down as I did on my last trip to NYC?
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UNE_PuffTheMagicNegro | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:58 pm | #
I'm there big time, so no. I'm looking forward to buying you an adult beverage....
"Is there anything comparable on the left?"
PIRG?
Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 2:02 pm | #
Not even close.
"Bush has pledged never to sign bills with tax increases"
What a sham that is.
JERUSALEM - Israel's public security minister warned Saturday that a U.S. intelligence report that said Iran is no longer developing nuclear arms could lead to a regional war that would threaten the Jewish state.
In his remarks Israel's harshest criticism yet of the U.S. report Avi Dichter said the assessment also cast doubt on American intelligence in general, including information about Palestinian security forces' crackdown on militant groups. The Palestinian action is required as part of a U.S.-backed renewal of peace talks with Israel this month.
He just sent my friend Laura the Rock and Roll Travel Agent some very nice flowers for her birthday. She loves him, and she's got very good taste.
steve simels
even people with good taste can be wrong sometimes...
Well i've got to go. 3 hours of shopping hours left and i've got to get new snow boots for that Texas storm we're getting tomorrow. Later folks...
Picky, picky, picky. Nazi with a small n....
He and Nietzsche certainly wrote things that fascists and Nazis, including Freddie's sister and husband, adopted and perverted...
"Not even close."
I guess it depends on what you mean by "comparable."
Young America's Foundation
As ever, sounds better in the original Deutsch.
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I'm there big time, so no. I'm looking forward to buying you an adult beverage....
I will be happy to oblige you on that account, sir!
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Ach, I gotta run. Taking the Dogz to The Resort a day earlier than planned because of the storm. I probably won't be getting out of Dodge tomorrow (damn it), but I want to be flexible--besides, they love the humans and other canines at their place, so it'll be more fun than hanging out with me as I do laundry, pack and pretend to grade. l8rh9rz.
QL,
I mentioned earlier that a quilt store is opening up right next door to my place d'employ.
Everytime I look at the place, i think of you
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Bush has pledged never to sign bills with tax increases
He then pledged his allegiance to the alcohol, and to stop drinking the flag.
cuntservatives being cuntservatives
later, Ntodd.
have a safe and prosperous journey.
gotta run myself and fix up something to eat.
xoxox
friends and eschatonians.
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Readers in today's WP reacting to the
This seems like a new low in superficial coverage. The American public deserves a cardboard cutout and a sound bite for leadership if it falls for this type of focus on trivial issues of appearance and style.
Julie Wiatt
Robin Givhan's Dec. 10 piece, "Anchored Away," was as idiotic as it was offensive. For what conceivable reason would you devote any time whatsoever to a presidential candidate's hairstyle?
'Scuse me for a few....
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OT but interesting:
In court documents, acting Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey S. Bucholtz was concerned that Kennedy might order CIA officials to testify about the tapes. Bucholtz said that "could potentially complicate the ongoing efforts to arrive at a full factual understanding of the matter."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20071...NE2ELSk2ams0NUE
Um...okay.
The need for acceptance often comes at the price of integrity and honesty.
"'Scuse me for a few...."
Let me know what was ironic when you return.
Bucholtz said that "could potentially complicate the ongoing efforts
"Could potentially" is as strong a qualifier as "might possibly".
Reminds me of the story of Saddam saying he would go into exile if the U.S. would just not start bombing. We ignored that too.
The petulant three year old wanted to have his war and wreck the room, and no one was going to get in his way by being mature and getting out of his way.
Is there anything comparable on the left? I don't think so.
They would say colleges and universities.
youse guys slow down on those adult beverages, both grocery store in town were out of tonic this week. & no I haven't been drinking this week.
Sorry, readers reacting to WP's idiotic coverage of presidential candidates (cont'd):
Is your political series "The Front-Runners" a satire of media political analysis? Are your gossip columnists writing it? You have devoted column inches to Mitt Romney's "anchorman" hairstyle ["Anchored Away," Dec. 10], and you said that John Edwards looks like "a man in costume" ["Working It," Dec. 11].
"How he looks"? "How he talks"? What about what the candidates say? What about what they've done?
Links to this article
This seems like a new low in superficial coverage. The American public deserves a cardboard cutout and a sound bite for leadership if it falls for this type of focus on trivial issues of appearance and style.
-- Julie Wiatt
Anybody watching the STAR TREK:THE REMASTERED WITH GROOVY NEW FX ORIGINAL SERIES right now?
"A Taste of Armageddon."
One of the best episodes ever.
And I'd forgotten how paralytically gorgeous Barbara Babcock is....
He and Nietzsche certainly wrote things that fascists and Nazis, including Freddie's sister and husband, adopted and perverted...
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:04 pm | #
Nietzsche's husband was his sister!?
Talk about perverted!
The petulant three year old wanted to have his war and wreck the room, and no one was going to get in his way by being mature and getting out of his way.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
In Woodward's "Plan of Attack", Chimpy stuck his head into a room where National Security principals were discussing war planning just long enough to offer "Fuck Saddam" into the proceedings.
He's a fucking 14 year old.
i can't believe sully is using the term "christianist." i thought only DFH bloggers did.
Wow, that's some outfit Miss November is wearing.
We believe it's painted on.
"Talk about perverted!"
Please do.
Let me know what was ironic when you return.
Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 2:13 pm | #
Let us know when you're less of an asshole.
Andr Gide got it right.
Excuse my brother on this thread. This talk about sex leaves him upset because he hasn't found a willing partner (in the homo homo sapiens species) yet.
"He's a fucking 14 year old."
As the father of a 14 year old and a former 14 year old myself, I resent that.
My 14 year old never bombed anyone.
he occasionally tortures his little brother, but hey - who's perfect?
Andr Gide got it right.
Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 2:20 pm | #
He wouldn't have liked you any more than we do.
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:16 pm | #
Hey, simels...if you haven't heard already, The Kiterunner was filmed in China.
In Woodward's "Plan of Attack", Chimpy stuck his head into a room where National Security principals were discussing war planning just long enough to offer "Fuck Saddam" into the proceedings.
"As he marched the nation to war, Bush presented himself as a Christian man of peace who saw war only as a last resort. But in a remarkable though little noted disclosure, Time magazine reported that in March 2002 a full year before the invasion Bush outlined his real thinking to three U.S. senators, Fuck Saddam, Bush said. Were taking him out.
Time actually didnt report the quote exactly that way. Apparently not to offend readers who admire Bushs moral clarity, Time printed the quote as F--- Saddam. Were taking him out.
http://
www.informationclearingho...article2835.htm
A full year later, he was still saying "the decision hasn't been made... no one wants war..." etc etc
But he didn't lie. He unintentionally misled.
/David Broder
"A Taste of Armageddon."
One of the best episodes ever.
Report to the disintegration chamber simels. My computer has declared you a casualty of war.
Hey, simels...if you haven't heard already, The Kiterunner was filmed in China.
Int'l Jewish Conspiracy | 12.15.07 - 2:22 pm | #
I was wondering about that. Some amazing vistas in that flick....
Ok, domestic crisis averted.
In Woodward's "Plan of Attack", Chimpy stuck his head into a room where National Security principals were discussing war planning just long enough to offer "Fuck Saddam" into the proceedings.
He's a fucking 14 year old.
Remember a couple of years back, the White House held a disaster drill, for the event of a major turrst attack or equivalent domestic emergency. All the WH people were working on it.......
Save for Dubbyah, who went bike riding with his usual Secret Service nannies.
Any European court can display equivalent histories of an inbred idiot manchild King kept for the symbolism and the bloodline, and not for any intrinsic worth. It is the very essence of aristocracy - merit by birth alone.
And aristocracy is what every fuckwad currently on top wants to institute - with themselves nd their own on the top permanently.
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i can't believe sully is using the term "christianist." i thought only DFH bloggers did.
chicago dyke, bitch | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:18 pm | #
i think he thinks he invented the term...
i can't believe sully is using the term "christianist." i thought only DFH bloggers did.
Maybe the DFH blogger giveaway is "Xtian".
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If only Captain Kirk could come back in time, violate the prime directive, and pull the plug on Bush.
If only Captain Kirk could come back in time, violate the prime directive, and pull the plug on Bush.
i thought Jeff Gannon already pulled Bush's plug and violated him.
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Nietzsche's husband was his sister!?
Talk about perverted!
rorschach, meh
No wonder Nietzsche's Family Circus is what it is.
Any European court can display equivalent histories of an inbred idiot manchild King kept for the symbolism and the bloodline
At least Ludwig II built some crazy cool castles.
If only Captain Kirk could come back in time, violate the prime directive, and pull the plug on Bush.
Richard |
Picard would have been more likely. He seemed to have a lower tolerance for fools.
Captain Sisko would do it. Living on Deep Space 9 makes you want to say fuck the rules.
Any European court can display equivalent histories of an inbred idiot manchild King kept for the symbolism and the bloodline
At least Ludwig II built some crazy cool castles.
Ever look at the Green Zone US Embassy? i doubt ity's as pretty as Neuschwanstein, but i bet it cost more (even inflation-adjusted).
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At least Ludwig II built some crazy cool castles.
MP |
but you should see what's going up in dubai! with your taxdollars, of course.
Holy cow.
Why would someone continually throw insults at someone who isn't listening? Could it be they have a desperate need for approval from others?
That seems the most likely situation.
i thought Jeff Gannon already pulled Bush's plug and violated him.
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Cynicus | 12.15.07 - 2:28 pm | #
I thought Jeffy was doing Rove....
I thought Jeffy was doing Rove....
steve simels
I thought Jeffy was being done by Ann Coulter. What do I know though?
now, i'm thinking that if he hasn't finished by then, he's not going to. perhaps he should try something different. like a boy.
chicago dyke, bitch | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:36 pm | #
For that audience? The rewind button is what he needs to figure out.
I thought Jeffy was doing Rove....
Jeffy will do anyone who will stand still long enough.
I am very sad.
I come in from shoveling the snow/sleet, and not one of you made me hot chocolate.
"I thought Jeffy was doing Rove...."
ok you put that image in my head. what are you going to do to fix it?
Rove - getting done -
why does the phrase "I bet you'd squeal" pop into my mind?
I thought Jeffy was doing Rove....
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:32 pm | #
He did both of them. And Cheney, too.
It was their own private he-man's- Caligula Club.
Anyhoo, I'm rather amused by the hand wringing over Huckabee.
Hey you republican fuckheads! you invited the jeebus freaks to your party and gave them the keys to your house and your car.
What did you think they were going to do?
Here you go Buckeye, one hot chocolate with a double shot of butterscotch schnapps.
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Why is Obama live on Cspan talking like a street black?
I should make some Buckeye.
I make it with block chocolate from Ghiradelli, half and half, and love
Talk about perverted!
rorschach, meh
Celine disagrees.
The opening scene of his Voyage to the end of the night is truly great though.
chatty kitties. i do wonder at times what it is they're saying when that chirrup like that.
if say... chidyke were to collar me, ball gag and 4 point me, before waterboarding me for awhile, i would have to admit that if i were in iowa, i would vote for edwards.
might even have to reconsider that whole 'waterboarding is torture' thing...
gotta run.
peace
Here you go Buckeye, one hot chocolate with a double shot of butterscotch schnapps.
I am intrigued by your ideas, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter....
He did both of them. And Cheney, too.
It was a package deal
Oy, is like a wind storm outside.
And I haz to go out. Eeek.
Hey Steve, do you like Bernie Krigstein at all?
Obama says his wife couldn't believe it when she heard he was doing housework but he has the video to prove.
Anyhoo, I'm rather amused by the hand wringing over Huckabee.
As someone I respect recently noted: One can easily conclude that this was all scripted to make McCain the candidate. Coming soon: Teh Surge II.
Obama says people who work full time in this country shouldn't be poor.
McCain has a surge in his pants. That's as close as he is getting to the Presidency.
i do wonder at times what it is they're saying when that chirrup like that.
I know what mine are saying.
"What are you doing? Can I halp you with that food? will you scritch mah head? PICK ME UP! Does U luvs me? I LUVS YOU! Play fetch with me! Why R U in that water??"
this was all scripted to make McCain the candidate
Dude would be 76 years old at the end of his term. Na ga happen. They're just tossing him a bone like they did Bob Dole in '96.
As someone I respect recently noted: One can easily conclude that this was all scripted to make McCain the candidate. Coming soon: Teh Surge II.
Never happen. The only thing that might surge is the size of his goiter.
Obama says working americans don't expect everything from government but do expect not to be bankrupt when they get sick.
McCain has a surge in his pants. That's as close as he is getting to the Presidency.
trifecta |
Dana Milbank did a love letter to Johnny Mac in the Post the other day. The wingnuts hate him. Hate his guts and liver.
They're convinced he wants to surrender to the Reconquista.
"Obama says people who work full time in this country shouldn't be poor."
I'd have to agree - but I'd go on to wonder why they often are quite poor. cause they are. the hardest working person I ever knew was on welfare.
I hope that's what Obama meant.
Hey Steve, do you like Bernie Krigstein at all?
"Master Race", a classic of the comic book genre.
Obama says he's got a plan to get everyone a health plan like he has as a senator.
They're just tossing him a bone like they did Bob Dole in '96.
They tossed him Viagra, and he produced his own bone.
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I has a plan to go get me some lunch and do me some christmas shopping.
And not think about crazy republicans for a few hours.
Obama has proposed a 4k refundable tax credit every year for all children to fund college education for all.
Here you go Buckeye, one hot chocolate with a double shot of butterscotch schnapps.
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Cynicus | 12.15.07 - 2:35 pm
Ooh, thank you!
"What are you doing? Can I halp you with that food? will you scritch mah head? PICK ME UP! Does U luvs me? I LUVS YOU! Play fetch with me! Why R U in that water??"
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:38 pm
Can I help you sort laundry? Make the bed? Throw up on your electric blanket? Claw the couch? Sit on your lap while you're trying to go to the bathroom?
Hey Steve, do you like Bernie Krigstein at all?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:36 pm | #
Name isn't ringing a bell...should I?
Anyhoo, I'm rather amused by the hand wringing over Huckabee.
Hey you republican fuckheads! you invited the jeebus freaks to your party and gave them the keys to your house and your car.
What did you think they were going to do?
Most alluring things about Hucksterbee to the fundy wingnuts?
favors not teaching logic in the schools
believes earth is only 6000 years old
treats non-fundies like scum unless they are enemies of the Clintons
...
Steve,
Has the mail been good to you yet?
I'd have to agree - but I'd go on to wonder why they often are quite poor. cause they are. the hardest working person I ever knew was on welfare.
That's the way it's structured in America. The work and the responsibility are at the bottom of the pyramid, the reward and the authority are at the top.
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Obama says he'll bring the troops home within 16 months after swearing in as President.
Oh wait -- Bernie Krigstein, the EC artist?
Yeah -- he's great...
Can I help you sort laundry? Make the bed? Throw up on your electric blanket? Claw the couch? Sit on your lap while you're trying to go to the bathroom?
I woke up this morning to a loud "fwap!" sound in my bedroom.
I look over on the floor, and there's Ripley, attacking the floor attachment to the dreaded VAACOOOM cleaner.
She was slapping the shit out of it. Cracked me right up.
DWD --
I was just about to e-mail you; got the package and many thanks.
I'll find something interesting for you...
Obama says he'll build schools all over the world that teach math and science instead of hatred of america.
Yeah -- he's great...
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:43 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I've got an extra copy of a coffeetable book of his work...yours if you want it.
Just need an address, or I can send it to Thers and you can pick it up from them.
Most alluring things about Hucksterbee to the fundy wingnuts?
favors not teaching logic in the schools
believes earth is only 6000 years old
treats non-fundies like scum unless they are enemies of the Clintons
Exactly. I think even republicans are alarmed by his views on science and education.
Obama says he'll end the genocide in Darfur, close guantanamo and restore habeus corpus.
Picky, picky, picky. Nazi with a small n....
He and Nietzsche certainly wrote things that fascists and Nazis, including Freddie's sister and husband, adopted and perverted...
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:04 pm | #
NTodd, did you ever read "Forgotten Fatherland, the Search for Elisabeth Nietzche" by Ben Macintyre?
Pretty interesting stuff about Freddie's sister and her attempts to Aryan-ize Paraguay.
Obama says he's running because of what Martin Luther King calls 'the fierce urgency of now.'
Dude would be 76 years old at the end of his term. Na ga happen. They're just tossing him a bone like they did Bob Dole in '96.
MP
Ordinarily we'd agree, but once all the other gooper candydate have flamed out, we think old lockjaw will be the only one standing.
Another reason to hate Rudy!!! ??
There's a good chance he'll pick good hair Perry as his running mate.
Obama has proposed a 4k refundable tax credit every year for all children to fund college education for all.
Isn't the national average yearly cost of college something like 5x this? So, like other 'school voucher' programs, it doesn't help the have-nots get somewhere, it makes it easier for the haves to stay ahead.
thanks.
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I woke up this morning to a loud "fwap!" sound in my bedroom.
I look over on the floor, and there's Ripley, attacking the floor attachment to the dreaded VAACOOOM cleaner.
She was slapping the shit out of it. Cracked me right up.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:43 pm
The outdoor fuzzballs get PurinaOne, and the indoor beasts get other stuff.
Spike runs in after being out in the snow, sniffs the bowls, realizes it's not his favorite, and runs back outside, expecting me to feed him there.
Goofball.
"That's the way it's structured in America. The work and the responsibility are at the bottom of the pyramid, the reward and the authority are at the top."
I don't have to like that though - and i don't.
Obama says he understands people have been rifling through his kindergarten papers.
Oh, great. The Climate Conference is gonna produce an agreement to halve green house gasses by 2050.
When it will be way too fucking late.
Nietzsche had a more direct role in causing WW1 than WW2.
Steve,
Enjoy them: that's all I want, honestly.
Spike runs in after being out in the snow, sniffs the bowls, realizes it's not his favorite, and runs back outside, expecting me to feed him there.
Goofball.
My girls eat Purina One too.
The LUVVVS it.
Hello moonbats
Conservative Romance and Sex
bit of an oxymoron innit!
Obama has proposed a 4k refundable tax credit every year for all children to fund college education for all.
which won't even get you a quarter (term) at the college where i used to work. and what about people who aren't paying taxes because they don't make enough? this helps them not at all.
way to reach out to the working poor, dude.
My girl dog took off to go hunting with the neighbor's mutt, now she's stuck across the road with a flock of cows between her & the house.
I've got an extra copy of a coffeetable book of his work...yours if you want it.
Just need an address, or I can send it to Thers and you can pick it up from them.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:44 pm | #
God, that would be great, thanks. Is your e-mail addy at your homepage? I'll send you my home details if so...
And I owe you.
Nietzsche had a more direct role in causing WW1 than WW2.
jones
______________________________________
What did World Wall I say to World Wall II?
Nietzsche at the corner!
the war on christma.. sorry, the war on masculinity
Nietzche was no superman
although he had a cape
and Jaspers existential dread
was caused by coffee cake
way to reach out to the working poor, dude.
chicago dyke, bitch
CD,
NO one and I mean that absolutely, in power, gives a shit about anyone making less than 100 K a year.
Here's a teeny little bit of good news:
States Opting Out of Abstinence Programs
Because they figured out that not only do they NOT work, they actually make things worse.
"what about people who aren't paying taxes because they don't make enough? this helps them not at all.
way to reach out to the working poor, dude."
--chicago dyke,
My thoughts exactly.
way to reach out to the working poor, dude.
chicago dyke
I want to know who gets to control the funds.
NO one and I mean that absolutely, in power, gives a shit about anyone making less than 100 K a year.
Aye. i call it our two-tier system of citizenship : Campaign Contributors and proles.
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way to reach out to the working poor, dude.
chicago dyke, bitch | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:49 pm | #
Credits are not deductions. They can be used to pay money to people who don't actually pay taxes
Spike runs in after being out in the snow, sniffs the bowls, realizes it's not his favorite, and runs back outside, expecting me to feed him there.
Goofball.
My girls eat Purina One too.
The LUVVVS it.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:49 pm
I didn't feed it to the indoor beasts because Shadow couldn't have it. But now that he's gone, I've just started to mix it in with their stuff.
They really, really like it.
God, that would be great, thanks. Is your e-mail addy at your homepage? I'll send you my home details if so...
And I owe you.
steve simels | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:51 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
De nada.
And it's buffoonia at yahoo.
We finally put up the Christmas tree last night and we'll decorate it tonight. The cats are getting jaded about such things, both being the elderly gentlemen that they are; but I know once we get the lights on and the tree skirt on the floor it'll be as fascinating as ever.
The big kitty will lie on the back of the sofa and stare, stare, stare, and the little cat will curl up under the tree and be a present -- and then he'll surf the hardwood floors on the tree skirt. Every morning from now until Epiphany we'll find the tree skirt in a different place, skidded there by an elegant little old kitty fella who rediscovers rowdy kittenhood with a scrap of fabric under a fir tree.
What the private equity boys really think about you ...
ha
"Isn't the national average yearly cost of college something like 5x this? So, like other 'school voucher' programs, it doesn't help the have-nots get somewhere, it makes it easier for the haves to stay ahead."
yeah, it's exactly like that - or so it seems to me.
if he was proposing a real solution to college I'd love it, but 4,000 might pay for the books and computer fees.
then again the educational system has always been about replicating the power relations in a society, so why do I expect what obama says to be different?
Here's a teeny little bit of good news:
States Opting Out of Abstinence Programs
Because they figured out that not only do they NOT work, they actually make things worse.
But cancelling them makes Baby Jesus cry. So expect them to return.
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Um...he might've been a protofascist, but he couldn't have been a Nazi.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 1:59 pm | #
Picky, picky, picky. Nazi with a small n....
Fucking Germans. Nothing ever changes. Fucking Nazis.
I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism dude, but at least it's an ethos...
fourlegs:
Teh rings R as old as Simels. Who knew?
You are a cruel centaur...
my mum is not bringing in the Christmas Tree till later next week, as we are up to York on Monday and my mum doesn't want it to be trashed by the cats
But cancelling them makes Baby Jesus cry. So expect them to return.
No, you don't get it. The programs still exist, but states aren't applying for the federal money for them.
if he was proposing a real solution to college I'd love it, but 4,000 might pay for the books and computer fees.
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Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 12.15.07 - 2:54 pm | #
What's wrong with community college?
Those people who make 100k a year or more work their asses off. Thos big houses they live in are always empty.
You are a cruel centaur...
C'mon, it wuz funny, right?
Abstinence programs are ultimately self-defeating, because if they do their job right, clients will eventually get so good at abstaining that they'll finally abstain from abstinence itself!
And then we're right back to where we started.
OT: The standard case against any form of redistributionist or egalitarian politics is that Britain today is more or less a meritocracy. Never mind if youre old mans a dustman and he wears a dustmans hat; he probably made a killing after he bought that council flat of his, after all.
OK, so the public schoolies have still got a bit of a head start. But never mind, son. Concentrate on your studies, put the graft in, and one day you too will be on a middle management wedge with a Ford Focus to round off the compensation package.
In the meantime, chill out and tune in to the classless society, brought to you courtesy of capitalism rather than communism.
On a superficial level, it is true that there have seen major changes in the class structure of Britain in recent decades. The traditional ruling class is in decline. That is not down to the rise of the proletariat, but rather the increased power of the corporation and the state.
Many white-collar jobs have been objectively proletarianised, to use the sociological jargon. However, class consciousness and organisation has lagged far behind this development.
Working class communities previously often based around a single large employer have been atomised. Solidarity is even more out of fashion that flared trousers.
http://www.davidosler.com/2007/
1...the_end_of.html
What the private equity boys really think about you ...
Moonbootica, Employed
Moon, that's scary close to a map of New Orleans.
Anyone else agree?
First I notice the ad that says, "Let's turn Hastert's seat blue" and then I see Miss November with the painted on blue jacket. How do I get that image out of my mind now?
What's wrong with community college?
It's not as good as a 4 year state university of private university.
I'm opposed to a two-tier educational system.
Credits are not deductions. They can be used to pay money to people who don't actually pay taxes
rootless-e, former
so why not just give poor kids a scholarship and skip a step, if you're just going to hand them some money? and again- 4K won't even get you a full schedule at community college, these days.
it's just another empty, meaningless gesture that won't solve a single educational issue in this country, and he knows it.
Uni Students here in the UK used to get state maintained grants till this was stopped
and fees started coming in
lotta of the Minsters who decided on this policy had enjoyed the full benefits of these grants
fuckers
I've got an extra copy of a coffeetable book of his work...yours if you want it.
How come you never offer to send stuff to me? *sniff*
Actually, I've got the book you're probably talking about. Too bad his career in comics was so short.
It's not as good as a 4 year state university of private university.
I'm opposed to a two-tier educational system.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:58 pm | #
Not as good for who? Is there any study on comparative quality?
Community colleges have lots of good technical programs -- not everyone needs a liberal arts or business degree.
My Ivy League BA in philosophy husband says he often wishes he'd become an electrician instead. Yes, the other is a fine social-class marker, but the supermarket doesn't care about social-class markers --it wants cash.
"What's wrong with community college?"
Nothing in theory. However, many students are poorly advised and end up with three years of community college credits they can't use at a university and no job training either.
besides community college can be a gateway to higher education but on its own it is not.
an aa is better than a high school diploma, I suppose, but it's not a 4 year degree.
Thatcherism, for all its enrichissez vous rhetoric, did not actually provide greater opportunities to ordinary people. Nor, shamefully, has ten years of New Labourism. And if social democratic government doesnt at least achieve that, what is its purpose?
http://www.davidosler.com/2007/
1...the_end_of.html
No, you don't get it. The programs still exist, but states aren't applying for the federal money for them
i think i get that.
what i also get is that, once the fundies realize the something-other-than-thinking-of-Jesus-and-doing-
nothing sex ed is back, they will start the lobbying again. And the abstinance-only crock will return.
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Phila:
You have mail.
And thanks again!!!
Obama saying social security in crisis again. 'By then, the dollar you got in benefits will only be worth 75cents.'
I'm opposed to a two-tier educational system.
fourlegsgood,
i support a complete rebuild, myself. but i don't knock CCs. for too many, it's that or nothing, and it's how members of my family have bootstrapped themselves up to that vaunted over 100K mark. but you're right of course, as they function now they do little more than enforce the extant class hierarchy.
Not as good for who? Is there any study on comparative quality?
rootless-e, former
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Don't be dense.
Is Miss November bride of chucky?
I am making latkes for Hannukah Harry tonight. Well for me really.
"What's wrong with community college?"
It's not as good as a 4 year state university of private university.
I'm opposed to a two-tier educational system.
My brother learned to be chef at a community college and has had a very successful career at it.
I view them as places where you learn a trade. Nothing wrong with that.
My oldest son went to our Community college for a year and then to Michigan State. My youngest is doing two years (his girlfriend is there) at the local Community college. They have an agreement with the state colleges in the area to work together on curriculum so that the colleges accept the credits earned at the community college. When he transfers to Grand Valley State University next fall he will enter as a Junior in good standing. His total bill for two years of community college, including text books and tuition, will have been approximately $6000. If he had done this at Grand Valley, that amount of money would have covered less than one semester.
We need to find a way to educate people as efficiently as they are doing here.
I am making latkes for Hannukah Harry tonight. Well for me really.
trifecta
Apple sauce or sour cream?
I'm opposed to a two-tier educational system.
fourlegsgood
As a general rule, so am I. But the cc do a bravura job of evening the educational field between those that got a decent high school education and those that took chemistry with nary a lab in the school. They fill a real gap and until the gap is closed I support them.
besides community college can be a gateway to higher education but on its own it is not.
an aa is better than a high school diploma, I suppose, but it's not a 4 year degree.
Yes.
You can't become an astrophysicist or a molecular biologist at a community college.
so why not just give poor kids a scholarship and skip a step, if you're just going to hand them some money? and again- 4K won't even get you a full schedule at community college, these days.
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chicago dyke, bitch | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:59 pm | #
I can't think of anything more direct than a via tax filings scholarship plan. Actually, it sounds like a pretty smart plan.
Community college would cost nothing for most students under a plan that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama proposed today in Fort Dodge.
The plan calls for a $4,000 refundable tax credit, which Obama said would make community college completely free for most graduating high school students.
The plan, available to students for all four years of college, also calls for making it easier to apply for financial assistance by eliminating most forms and replacing them with a box on income tax forms.
Obama, during a news conference at Iowa Central Community College, noted that the plan would most directly help the nations nearly 12 million community college students, which he said is the backbone of our workforce.
As our changing economy demands a more skilled workforce, Americas community colleges must be at the forefront of our approach to higher education and economic competitiveness, Obama said.
The entire plan, which Obama has called his American Dream agenda, would cost an estimated $26 billion a year. That would be paid for largely from savings that come from requiring federal contract orders more than $25,000 be competitively bid, cuts to congressional earmarks and eliminations of subsidies to private student lenders, Obamas staff said.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com...119007/-1/
RSS20
Sour cream Jim. I am no heathen.
My Ivy League BA in philosophy husband says he often wishes he'd become an electrician instead. Yes, the other is a fine social-class marker, but the supermarket doesn't care about social-class markers --it wants cash.
Speaking as a two year community college degree R.N., the community college will get you a job. But being a nurse is s shit job, and the rewards of the medical system go to those who did more. i will venture to guess the same is true of non-medical training.
Hell, if i were 18 again, i'd go to trade school and be a plumber. You can own your own business, the money is good, and not even the mad MBA CEO's fucking America over are going to outsource plumbing, and have to fly to Calcutta to shit.
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We want all students to have the experience of getting good grades in hard, challenging classes where the material is difficult, the students are competitive and the teachers are strong. Community colleges don't offer this experience.
Apple sauce or sour cream?
Jim, Collieresque | 12.15.07 - 3:05 pm | #
Sour Cream? Like the one thing Latkes lack is fat!
My brother learned to be chef at a community college and has had a very successful career at it.
I view them as places where you learn a trade. Nothing wrong with that.
No, there's not. And there's nothing wrong with kids doing a year or two there.
I'm not knocking what they do, many of them are fine institutions, with excellent professors. And for many kids, it's the only option.
I'm arguing that it shouldn't be the only option.
Sour cream and latkes is like Ernie & Bert, Sonny & Cher, Regis & Kathy Lee. Always meant to be!
so why not just give poor kids a scholarship and skip a step, if you're just going to hand them some money? and again- 4K won't even get you a full schedule at community college, these days.
Post chimp there won't be money for shit.
Apple sauce or sour cream?
Jim, Collieresque | 12.15.07 - 3:05 pm | #
Sour Cream? Like the one thing Latkes lack is fat!
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
Eschaton Wars XLVIII: The Battle of the Latkes
IN A WOOORLD.....
The consultation paper Managing Protest around Parliament stems from a Governance of Britain green paper in which the government committed to consulting on the sections of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act covering demonstrations near Parliament.
This consultation takes another look at sections 132-138 of that act, and explores whether there is another way to address the situation that would both uphold the right to protest while also giving police the powers they need to keep the peace.
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/doc...anaging-
protest
Miss November looks like some kind of Gotham menace.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Don't be dense.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 3:03 pm | #
Don't be reflexive. The means of funding state universities causes them to be driven by research funding and their teaching is often crap below the graduate level and poorly focused.
If you think those waves of chuckleheads coming out of State U. with business degrees are well educated ...
Academics, what do you think of the many for-profit "colleges" that seem to be popping up here and there? F'r instance DeVry University and Robert Morris College? From my perspective, they seem to target the children of the working class, but they also seem to charge way too much in tuition & fees. If they called themselves technical schools I wouldn't be so suspicious, but as it is. . .
What do you think?
Contradictions of Resource Populism
Don't be reflexive. The means of funding state universities causes them to be driven by research funding and their teaching is often crap below the graduate level and poorly focused.
You're an idiot.
I work at a state research university. We take undergraduate teaching seriously.
You can't become an astrophysicist or a molecular biologist at a community college.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 3:05 pm | #
Not everybody wants to be an astrophysicist or molecular biologist.
If you think those waves of chuckleheads coming out of State U. with business degrees are well educated ...
Then you've been looking at Heritage University graduates again, haven't you?
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"Hell, if i were 18 again, i'd go to trade school and be a plumber. You can own your own business, the money is good, and not even the mad MBA CEO's fucking America over are going to outsource plumbing, and have to fly to Calcutta to shit."
you also burn yourself frequently, have to deal with wrecked knees from the job, and other minor complaints.
the money might be decent if you own the business but if you're a journeyman or a helper it's not so hot. Not knocking the trades I did it for 16+ years but that is the downside.
I'd recommend welding as a trade. The really good ones make a ton.
We want all students to have the experience of getting good grades in hard, challenging classes where the material is difficult, the students are competitive and the teachers are strong. Community colleges don't offer this experience.
bake
Everyone should listen to this man.
He's parlayed his Texas A&M degree into a fine career as a "writer" who gets payed $5 a job if he's lucky, 20 cents if he isn't.
Not everybody wants to be an astrophysicist or molecular biologist.
No, but in our current system, many people who WOULD like to do so don't get that opportunity, because a community college is all they can afford.
Surely that's not a hard concept for you to grasp?
Geez, I hate to be argumentative but education, in the end, is an activity that depends on the student. The more effort that you put into learning, the more you will learn. If you go to Harvard and Yale and put no effort into learning, you can graduate as an ignorant fool (see Bush, George W) If you can only afford to go to a community college an a state sponsored university, you can come out well-educated, IF you attempt to learn as much as you can.
In the end, it is up to the student. School can establish standards and students can find ways to meet these standards or to circumvent them.
Education, education, education; my arse!
You're an idiot.
I work at a state research university. We take undergraduate teaching seriously.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 3:10 pm | #
Oh go sit on your self-righteousness, sideways.
Geez, I hate to be argumentative but education, in the end, is an activity that depends on the student. The more effort that you put into learning, the more you will learn.
Well, duh.
No, but in our current system, many people who WOULD like to do so don't get that opportunity, because a community college is all they can afford.
Surely that's not a hard concept for you to grasp?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 3:12 pm | #
Do you have a tenured position in the condescension department?
Oh go sit on your self-righteousness, sideways.
Feel free to kiss my centaur ass.
House prices are crumbling on both sides of the Atlantic, growing numbers of homeowners face repossession, financial markets are yo-yoing and the UK saw its first run on a bank in living memory. But for three audacious New York traders it all added up to a $4bn (2bn) profit opportunity and the biggest jackpot in the history of Wall Street.
The young guns at the investment bank Goldman Sachs none of them over 40 years old were unmasked yesterday, prompting a wave of adulation and envy among their colleagues, and another bout of handwringing about Wall Street's ability to make multibillion-dollar profits even as millions of ordinary people face losing their homes.
Dan Sparks and two underlings, Josh Birnbaum and Michael "Swenny" Swenson, placed what were in effect giant bets against the US mortgage market at the start of the year and watched their winnings tick higher and higher as the rising numbers of mortgage defaults spiralled into a worldwide financial crisis. Throughout the year, they battled with more cautious bosses who feared the bets were too big and too dangerous, but in part because of their success Goldman Sachs will post record profits next week. In doing so, the firm will stand alone on Wall Street, where rivals have suffered huge losses from the credit market meltdown.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
bu...icle3253066.ece
Hell, if i were 18 again, i'd go to trade school and be a plumber. You
can own your own business, the money is good, and not even the mad MBA
CEO's fucking America over are going to outsource plumbing, and have to
fly to Calcutta to shit.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 3:06 pm | #
My 19 year old son decided that he didn't want to go to college and incur huge debts. He went and got a job as a union plumber. He works 12/7 nights and is finding that the work is much more interesting than he had anticipated. He's working on a power plant retrofit. He told me that his last paycheck pre-tax was $1400 (per week). I applaud his dedication and it was a good decision. He is frugal and runs on a budget someday he'll go to college, I think he has an interest in industrial health and safety. But this is good on the ground training and it sure a hell can't be outsourced.
later, getting thick here.
Do you have a tenured position in the condescension department?
Nope, do you have a life time appointment as a dumbass?
If you go to Harvard and Yale and put no effort into learning, you can graduate as an ignorant fool (see Bush, George W) If you can only afford to go to a community college an a state sponsored university, you can come out well-educated, IF you attempt to learn as much as you can.
And IF a D- from Harvard weren't more valuable than straight A's from Podunk State, despite the Podunk grad being better educated, this insight would mean more.........
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C'mon, it wuz funny, right?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 2:57 pm | #
Of course.
Community colleges don't offer this experience.
bake
I suppose you might have lots of actual experience working in a community college system? Did you attend one? Do you know any students attending one, or who did at one point? Do you teach?
And IF a D- from Harvard weren't more valuable than straight A's from Podunk State, despite the Podunk grad being better educated, this insight would mean more.........
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Cynicus
And isn't that sort of pathetic in its own way?
The fast track to the best schools should always be open to the poor. When the poor start to show a pattern of 'effort', the system needs to give them the experience of the best schools. The people who control these institutions are completely full of themselves. They implicitly endorse an order of rank of intelligences. Why does the privately educated Yglesias need to spend 4 years at Harvard. All Universities should be Public and all access to the best teachers should be dynamic and constantly rotating.
the realhellkitty
People who can build alternative power plants are going to be in huge demand over the next, oh, fifty years.
More than 1,000 schools have seen a slump of more than 30 per cent in the number of pupils taking a modern foreign language at GCSE, according to figures given to The Independent.
Government statistics show that more than a third of secondary schools in England have experienced a drop of 30 per cent since ministers first put forward plans for making the subject voluntary for 14- to 16-year-olds four years ago.
The list of schools also shows there are 46 where no pupil studies a modern foreign language at GCSE. A second list shows there are just over 1,000 secondaries in England where fewer than one in four pupils sits a languages GCSE.
The majority of schools with the worst take-up of languages are in inner-city areas fuelling language experts' fears that the subject is becoming a middle-class preserve.
Of the 46 schools where no one learns a language, 32 are in urban authorities and the rest serve deprived areas of affluent shire counties. In Barnsley, 10 of 14 secondary schools have fewer than one in four pupils learning a language at 14.
Typical of the picture is Warren comprehensive in Barking and Dagenham, east London, where 59 per cent of pupils sat at least one of French, German or Spanish GCSE in 2004. This declined to 19 per cent in 2005, 16 per cent in 2006 and 14 per cent in 2007.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
ed...icle3253071.ece
It's true, you can't send your boiler to Bangalore if it needs fixing.
There's only so much oil on the ground
Sooner or later there won't be much around
Tell that to your kids while you driving downtown
That there's only so much oil on the ground
..
There's no excuse for our abuse
No excuse for our abuse
We just assume that we will not
Exceed the oil supply
But soon enough the world will watch the wells run
if you tilt your head & squint crossed eyed, you can see Fat Denny in a painted on blue thingie.
A kid can go to community college for two years, learn a trade, get a job at a company that offers tuition reimbursement (although those are getting fewer and farther between), and finish the BA on the company's dime. Yeah, night school sucks, but lots of people have done it. It's not like the CC closes off other options. And no one looks to see if you started at State U -- they only look to see what name's printed on the diploma.
in
Not everybody wants to be an astrophysicist or molecular biologist.
If my brother did, he'd have gone to university instead of a community college. Instead, he wanted to be chef. You can't get that sort of training there.
Meantime, I did want to be a physicist, so I went the Bsc, Msc, PhD route.
Different strokes for different folks.
And IF a D- from Harvard weren't more valuable than straight A's from Podunk State, despite the Podunk grad being better educated, this insight would mean more.........
Exactly. I want a level playing field for everyone.
Your prospects in life shouldn't depend on an accident of birth.
I'd like to see more funding for both state universities AND community colleges.
Everyone should have the opportunities. What they do with it is up to them.
My mom wasn't the best cook but her latkes were sublime. One of her secrets was to use (and grate) only raw potatoes. Using cooked potatoes makes the latkes too mealy for my taste. As for sour cream or apple sauce, neither. Although I'm essentially salt-free now, when I was a kid I would pour salt over my latkes and enjoy immensely.
i admit i was surprised at the reaction to my "how to get into selective colleges" post from a while back; people didn't want to hear most of what i was saying, or reacted rather negatively to it. but it surprises me that even progressives and liberals close their eyes to the realities of our class hierarchy, and how it works.
there's education, and then there's what the masses get. knowing the former, rather than defend the latter, i get pissed off. why defend mcdonald's grade meat when everyone could have organic mignon for the same price? that's my issue with the educational system.
"People who can build alternative power plants are going to be in huge demand over the next, oh, fifty years."
trades gonna be needed more than that cause the infrastructure debt is getting huge.
there's education, and then there's what the masses get. knowing the former, rather than defend the latter, i get pissed off. why defend mcdonald's grade meat when everyone could have organic mignon for the same price? that's my issue with the educational system.
Mine too.
Okay, I'm out.
BBL, with kitties if U all R good.
No, but in our current system, many people who WOULD like to do so don't get that opportunity, because a community college is all they can afford.
OK. Point taken.
"why defend mcdonald's grade meat when everyone could have organic mignon for the same price? that's my issue with the educational system."
can't argue with you.
seems most folks do not want to look at class and the USA.
OT: The Virgin Mary comes from Knotty Ash, one of the angels used to be in Brookside, and Herod is a woman.
This version of the Christmas story, to be played out on the streets in the centre of Liverpool and broadcast live on BBC3 tomorrow night, has a cast of 300, including the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra, a technical crew of 150 and is produced by the BBC team responsible for last year's Manchester Passion.
It's a risky enterprise: Manchester United are playing Liverpool at Anfield that day, which could make for a lively post-match crowd looking on when Jesus is born in a real ale pub named after the first chief public health officer to be appointed in the UK.
Christmas weather in Liverpool can also be unkind so producers have not only given the angel Gabriel a decent part but beseeched him to arrange a meteorological miracle around St George's Hall and the Walker art gallery.
They have also taken the precaution of pre-recording the part of the story that unfolds on the Mersey ferry. But Mary and Joseph will still have to cross the river in real time.
If a force eight is blowing, Jesus's first glimpse of the world he has come to save could well be Birkenhead.
After discussions with the Bishop of Liverpool, the Rt Rev James Jones, the script's writer Mark Davies Markham has modernised the traditional story. Mary, lacking both the traditional blue robe and halo, wipes tables in a Seaforth cafe. Joseph is an asylum seeker commanded to go to Liverpool to renew his visa. Herod is a woman and the shepherds are both homeless and sheepless. But there will still be a star and three magi for the show.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
christ...2227962,00.html
Not everybody wants to be an astrophysicist or molecular biologist.
With my Brooklyn College BA degee I became a pizza maker in British Columbia.
And IF a D- from Harvard weren't more valuable than straight A's from Podunk State, despite the Podunk grad being better educated, this insight would mean more.........
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Cynicus
And isn't that sort of pathetic in its own way?
Ay-yup.
You know, Tom Jefferson wanted an educational system in which all children would get free elemantary education. the top 10% of performers would get free further education - the equivalent of high school. the top 10% of THOSE would get free college at a University of the United States.
dirty fucking hippy.
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in the UK there are three classes today
Old Money, All The Rest and the Underclass
Nope, do you have a life time appointment as a dumbass?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 3:15 pm | #
Like most, people, I suppose. But I can understand that "often" cannot be refuted by "in this case". I've taught at 3 state universities and found that "excellence in undergraduate education" was something they didn't really care about - happened sometimes.
the realhellkitty
People who can build alternative power plants are going to be in huge demand over the next, oh, fifty years.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.15.07 - 3:17 pm | #
Hecate, that's true. He has observed as Uncle Blodge suggests, the welders really run the show. If the welders ain't happy ain't nobody happy.
Apparently the union runs it's own trade school and will pay for all or part of his education. He's and apprentice in a four year program. He works hard and is learning about job site politics. They let a few apprentices go the other day but kept him because he's smart and ready to work hard.
He's parlayed his Texas A&M degree into a fine career as a "writer" who gets payed $5 a job if he's lucky, 20 cents if he isn't.
Richard | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 3:12 pm | #
But in his other career as a Swiss fashion model and engineer, he really cleans up.
hahha - A right-wing think-tank whose research came under fire on BBC2's Newsnight has threatened legal action against the current affairs programme.
When the Policy Exchange, which has close links with the Conservative Party, released a report entitled The Hijacking Of British Mosques in October the issue received widespread coverage.
But a Newsnight investigation claimed there were inconsistencies in the evidence used in the report. It called into question an allegation that a quarter of the 100 mosques visited by a research team for Policy Exchange were selling extremist literature.
Following the report, aired on Wednesday night, Policy Exchange issued a statement calling Newsnight's broadcast "libellous and perverse". It added it was "in legal consultations about action in this matter" .
Researchers hired by the Policy Exchange found that 25 mosques were selling material that fostered extremism. Receipts from book purchases made by the undercover researchers were then given to Newsnight to aid coverage of the story. But, upon examination of the receipts, Newsnight researchers became wary.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
me...icle3253078.ece
I've taught at 3 state universities and found that "excellence in undergraduate education" was something they didn't really care about - happened sometimes.
The universities i have interacted with are all bureaucracies. So, like government bureaucracies, they have Byzantine complexities and vast staffing of people who are just covering their asses and showing up to make it to the blessed day of fully vested retirement.
If their mission goal, someone getting educated, happens to happen along the way, thst's great! But very secondary to make no waves and make that pension.
Government bureaucracies are identical.
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Mimi taught me underwater CPR, braille, and extreme kickboxing this week.
"If the welders ain't happy ain't nobody happy."
to a degree that would shock you until you see it.
if you can do high pressure repairs as a welder you're set.
Effort is certainly important, but I still maintain with so many kids graduating high school with an eighth grade education, if that, effort alone won't do any good at all.
I was a returnee and started at the local CC, which was excellent, and then transferred to the four year state school, which again was excellent. I got a decent education. Not as good as the one my daughter got at Johns Hopkins and the UofEdinburgh, but decent.
Exactly. I want a level playing field for everyone.
Your prospects in life shouldn't depend on an accident of birth.
I'd like to see more funding for both state universities AND community colleges.
Everyone should have the opportunities. What they do with it is up to them.
I think you'd certainly prefer the Canadian system.
The only truly private "universities" are Bible colleges.
Some schools are better than others, but the tuition for all is roughly the same. Whether you get accepted into a McGill vs. a Laurentian depends on your grades. No legacy bullshit.
Even if you went to a smaller school like Laurentian, say to be closer to home, your grad school prospects are still decent if you were a good student. The Laurentian person could get a PhD at McGill.
People who can build alternative power plants are going to be in huge demand over the next, oh, fifty years.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Engineering grads were in enormous demand in the post WWII United States. Then it became all about bidness majors and attorneys. I think the Boilermakers wil come back into high demand very soon.
well, dwd is gone so never mind.
but- on the plumber/phd contrast: i too have decided to learn some "real" skillz, hellkitty, for exactly the reason hecate mentions.
in hard times, the extra letters after the name don't mean so much, and there won't be enough tutoring positions for all of us downsized out of the genteel poverty of the middle class. brain workers will be very important, but in a practical way. the bushies have more or less guaranteed that we'll be doing some 'from the ground up' rebuilding of our social order. hands will be dirtied, or go unfed.
"they have Byzantine complexities and vast staffing of people who are just covering their asses and showing up to make it to the blessed day of fully vested retirement."
the place that I got my M. eD had a secretary who understood it all. She could tell you where to take the paperwork and in what order and even what time of day to go ("don't go now they're at lunch")
But in his other career as a Swiss fashion model and engineer, he really cleans up.
steve simels
And is a self-taught Nobel-prize calibre economist.
Why aren't employers doing the training? A trade school isn't even necessary. And law school should be turned back into apprenticeships with a lottery of candidates going into various firms.
I think the Boilermakers wil come back into high demand very soon
i'm certainly drinking them heavily.
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I was a returnee and started at the local CC, which was excellent, and then transferred to the four year state school, which again was excellent. I got a decent education. Not as good as the one my daughter got at Johns Hopkins and the UofEdinburgh, but decent.
I did my first two years at CC, then finished at the state university. Masters from a predominantly African American state school. Law degree from the state university. Got a decent education, but not as good as Son got at the ivies.
"they have Byzantine complexities and vast staffing of people who are just covering their asses and showing up to make it to the blessed day of fully vested retirement."
I haz of course got a job in the government bureaucracy
NHS - National Health Service
Another gig that'll never go away is anything that serves the rich and their leisure. Get into turf management -- keeping grass green and velvety -- and you'll never go lacking. Groundskeepers for country clubs have the best gig going, because the board votes them whatever they want and they don't have to deal with the members.
Another one is boutique organic farming. If you can grow arugula in your little organic garden, the chef at said country club will buy all you can grow. And if there's a sentimental little story about your organic quarter-acre, up goes the price you can charge.
Only requirement for admission is a pattern of 'will', not necessarily best illustrated by grades or test scores.
"If the welders ain't happy ain't nobody happy."
to a degree that would shock you until you see it.
if you can do high pressure repairs as a welder you're set.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
12.15.07 - 3:27 pm | #
They were supposed to work over Christmas but the welders said "fuck that". So, they will be having a week off.
When you say "high pressure repairs" I am guessing that this is what they are doing.
They have had to shut down the plant so that new sections of pipe can be welded in...it is apparently a very high temperature operation...the pipe having to be heated to over 400* in order to weld it. Son is learning how to grind and buff the finished welds. He's only been there since the end of October but they are teaching him a lot.
And law school should be turned back into apprenticeships with a lottery of candidates going into various firms.
I don't know why. You'd only learn the kind of law that firm did.
Opening quality higher education to all, even if they don't take degrees, in fact they should be encouraged not to take a degree, to instead explore whatever tickles their fancy, will lead to a better citizenry.
LONDON - The British army is losing the equivalent of nearly a battalion to illegal drug use every year, research released Friday said.
Research from the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), a defence think tank, showed the losses are greater than the total number of fatalities and serious injuries resulting from Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.
An article in RUSI's journal showed an increase in positive test results for illegal substances, through the defence ministry's compulsory testing (CDT) programme, from 517 cases in 2003 to 769 last year -- almost a battalion's worth.
The research provides more bad news for the British armed forces, after the current head of the army, Sir Richard Dannatt, warned of morale problems and serious overstretch among troops in a high-level report, according to excerpts published by a newspaper last month.
Researchers were also alarmed by a four-fold increase in the rate of soldiers testing positive for cocaine use. Positive rates of cocaine abuse rose from 1.4 per 1,000 in 2003 to 5.7 in the first semester of 2007.
Author Professor Sheila Bird, a senior scientist with the Medical Research Council, warned the increase could be the tip of the iceberg.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m3923...&hd=&size=1&
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Moon,
When does your job start? What are you going to be doing?
the place that I got my M. eD had a secretary who understood it all. She could tell you where to take the paperwork and in what order and even what time of day to go ("don't go now they're at lunch")
One of the many truly valuable lessons i got from my father was "If you have the choice of being the CEO's friend, or the CEO's secretary's friend, befriend the secretary. She makes more decisions, knows more of what's going on, and has more clout."
the old man was 100% damnright.
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if you can do high pressure repairs as a welder you're set.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
Saw this show on electrical lineman. Dude sits on a platform sticking out from a helicopter 150' in the air. He then gets *on* a live high tension wire and shimmies up to the top to inspect the connections.
Moon,
When does your job start? What are you going to be doing?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 3:33 pm | #
7th Jan and my job is about correlating information from the NHS and putting it into databases (using Excel), i.e. how many beds are needed, how many people have broken their hips etc.
dealing with data basically
And is a self-taught Nobel-prize calibre economist.
I once took the time to read one of his Associated Content articles. It was on quantum computing. To say it was embarrassing would be an understandment. He gives the cliche "jack of all trades and master of none" perverse new meaning.
7th Jan and my job is about correlating information from the NHS and putting it into databases (using Excel), i.e. how many beds are needed, how many people have broken their hips etc.
dealing with data basically
Congrats, Moon!
You are already considered smarter and more valuable than a nurse - you don't muck about with patients, and you have office space.
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CD, what are you doing these days?
Another one is boutique organic farming. If you can grow arugula in your little organic garden, the chef at said country club will buy all you can grow. And if there's a sentimental little story about your organic quarter-acre, up goes the price you can charge.
i was at a website put up by this guy who made $25K one year selling hostas. on 1/20th of an acre in suburbia. hostas are almost impossible to kill and will grow in anything, and every american home has one, sooner or later.
offered for those who want to avoid catering to only the wealthy,
"I have a friend who got fleeced online thinking that a Siberian super model 15 years his junior had chosen him of all people in the Western Hemisphere to fall in love with. This guy is not stupid, far from it."
Er, yes he is.
He's one of these guys who decided that American women are bad because they have the temerity to believe they have rights.
"When you say "high pressure repairs" I am guessing that this is what they are doing."
I mean welding that has to keep 450 psi on the right side.
even 50 psi, really.
understandment= understatement
I will be working for the Wiltshire Primary Care Trust, they get a chunk of government money and decided where to spend in, in this case Wiltshire.
And those bridge inspectors walking up the suspension cables several hundred feet up. Fuck that noise.
Opening quality higher education to all, even if they don't take degrees, in fact they should be encouraged not to take a degree, to instead explore whatever tickles their fancy, will lead to a better citizenry.
bake
Says jack the home skooled.
Basically, Republicans have been in control of state government, across America, the past 25 years (This has been changing recently). In cutting taxes, the most shameful consequence has been the deep cutbacks in funding for their public universities, with the result being the demise of higher education in the US.
Student tuition is much higher. Faculty are stressed over the increasing teaching load & other administrative requirements. Colleges are, more & more, relying on part time rather than regular faculty. Tenure is becoming extremely difficult to get. The results are fewer blue collar types are able to afford higher education & fewer people are willing to go through the ardors of a Ph.D. for the current academic life.
Authorities and trusts are the different types of organisations that run the NHS at a local level. The whole of England is split into 10 strategic health authorities (SHAs). These organisations were set up in 2002 to develop plans for improving health services in their local area and to make sure their local NHS organisations were performing well.
Within each SHA, the NHS is split into various types of trusts that take responsibility for running the different NHS services in your local area.
http://www.nhs.uk/aboutnhs/
Howth...sandtrusts.aspx
Government bureaucracies are identical.
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Cynicus | 12.15.07 - 3:27 pm | #
You gotta follow the money. Undergraduate teaching does not bring in the $50million center for excellence in ballistic weapons research.
i was at a website put up by this guy who made $25K one year selling hostas. on 1/20th of an acre in suburbia. hostas are almost impossible to kill and will grow in anything, and every american home has one, sooner or later.
If 'hostas' is the new word for 'pot plant', this makes sense. If not, i think it a fluke.
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"Most men are simply priced out of the marriage and dating market. If you dropped a mere $100K in the yearly bank account of those lonely, "shy" men women would be all around and over them. Because the men would have higher RELATIVE status. Which would make them sexy instead of losers."
Excuse me, but I have worked since I was 17. I have never depended on a man for money, even during the 23 years I was married.
I mean welding that has to keep 450 psi on the right side.
even 50 psi, really.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
12.15.07 - 3:39 pm | #
I will pass that information along.
Primary care trusts
Primary care is the care provided by people you normally see when you first have a health problem. It might be a visit to a doctor or a dentist, an optician for an eye test, or just a trip to a pharmacist to buy cough mixture. NHS walk-in centres and the NHS Direct phone line service are also part of primary care. All of these services are managed for you by your local primary care trust (PCT).
Your PCT will work with local authorities and other agencies that provide health and social care locally to make sure that your local community's needs are being met.
PCTs are now at the centre of the NHS and control 80% of the NHS budget. As they are local organisations, they are best positioned to understand the needs of their community, so they can make sure that the organisations providing health and social care services are working effectively.
For example, your PCT must make sure there are enough services for people within their area and that these services are accessible. It must also make sure that all other health services are provided, including hospitals, dentists, opticians, mental health services, NHS walk-in centres, NHS Direct, patient transport (including accident and emergency), population screening, and pharmacies. They are also responsible for getting health and social care systems working together for the benefit of patients.
http://www.nhs.uk/aboutnhs/
Howth...sandtrusts.aspx
hellkitty- at this moment i am caregiver and Freshly Made Aunt. my niece was just born last night, and i'm here babysitting while mommy is sleeping it off in the hospital. it's great. although, the lil nipper doesn't like it when i'm on the computer; cars and pirates are so much more important to him and thinks they should be for everyone.
Miss April led me to think about sex. Miss November makes me think about leaving the country.
Saw this show on electrical lineman.
Almost every utility in the country is desperate to hire linemen and linewomen. The current population is aging and not being replaced. Generally a union job.
article on free trade, the dollar as a reserve currency etc.
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts12132007.html
Most men are simply priced out of the marriage and dating market. If you dropped a mere $100K in the yearly bank account of those lonely, "shy" men women would be all around and over them
What a ridiculously childish outlook. Who said that, jack?
I once took the time to read one of his Associated Content articles. It was on quantum computing. To say it was embarrassing would be an understandment. He gives the cliche "jack of all trades and master of none" perverse new meaning.
I love new perverse meanings.
was at a website put up by this guy who made $25K one year selling hostas. on 1/20th of an acre in suburbia
many have discovered the most valuable thing they learned in college was the experiment in their dorm room closet.
my niece was just born last night
Congratulations! I love my niece (now all grown up) like mad; hope you have a ton of fun with yours.
Saw this show on electrical lineman.
Linemen of the county?
my niece was just born last night
congrats
i adore my niece, sheer joy
If 'hostas' is the new word for 'pot plant', this makes sense. If not, i think it a fluke.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 3:40 pm | #
nope, hostas are a really nice but ubiquitous landscape plant.
They thrive in a temperate climate and do excellently well in the PNW.
Have any of you seen the Youtube video of TX governor Rick Perry trashing W for never having been a fiscal conservative? It was all over the news yesterday.
Almost every utility in the country is desperate to hire linemen and linewomen. The current population is aging and not being replaced. Generally a union job.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator"
The worker in this show was in his 50's I'd say. Had been juiced out on the lines couple of times in his career, too. But looked good. Kinda like Sam Elliot.
Have any of you seen the Youtube video of TX governor Rick Perry trashing W for never having been a fiscal conservative? It was all over the news yesterday.
therealhellkitty
I love it when Repugs turn one another like warring rats.
Tenure is becoming extremely difficult to get. The results are fewer blue collar types are able to afford higher education & fewer people are willing to go through the ardors of a Ph.D. for the current academic life.
Another huge problem in the sciences and engineering is that the funding agencies for research have been faced with budget cutbacks. It is a lot harder to support a graduate student financially these days.
I know ultraconservate types who have grown despise Bush for exactly this reason. He's not just destroying the military. He's destroying scientific research in this country, and not just the subjects that conservatives don't like. It's across the board.
Oops - meant to say:
turn ON one another
The worker in this show was in his 50's I'd say. Had been juiced out on the lines couple of times in his career, too.
It's tough work, outside in all weathers. But completely vital and fewer and fewer young people willing to do it.
nope, hostas are a really nice but ubiquitous landscape plant.
They thrive in a temperate climate and do excellently well in the PNW.
i know; i have some in the front yard. Or, the wife does, really.
It was the parts about $25K from 1/20th acre, grow anywhere, every home should have one, etc.
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"My father's family was Quebecois. They immigrated to Mass. My father's school day was half English, half French, but like many immigrant kids, he was ashamed of his heritage, and "unlearned" the french he spoke in his childhood home. Believe it or not, he now claims to be a southerner."
Is that like "Southern Candadian"?
If not, i think it a fluke.
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Cynicus
actually, he claims to make a living at it now. the 25K was in one weekend, iirc. he sells his stuff at farmer's markets and local flower shows and the like.
do you garden? in my area, it's common to pay 6-25$ per plant. obviously, if i were patient and ubercheap, i'd grow them from seed. but like a lot of homeowners, i'm impatient and want my plants now. this guy took a rapidly growing, very popular, easy to grow plant and filled his back yard with it. now, every year he sells off half, and makes a nice supplemental income off of little effort and a tiny property. i'm thinking about following his example, i might as well, i'm gardening enough to warrant it.
Saw this show on electrical lineman.
Dick Cheney?
"He's not just destroying the military. He's destroying scientific research in this country"
is there anything the silly fuck has not destroyed?
Er .. Canadian
But looked good. Kinda like Sam Elliot.
MP
Oooh......be still, my beating heart.
Going to a top university isn't just about the classes one takes and the books one reads.
A bus and a Mercedes will both go from point A to point B, but no one confuses the two.
is there anything the silly fuck has not destroyed?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
His and Cheney's bank accounts.
Oh, no, I'll believe what CD says about the hosta grower. That's a thought. The deal is, you make hybrids for new color combinations (omg! dark green with a white stripe and a ruffled edge!), give your new seedling a name, take cuttings, get the word out that this, THIS, is the next Sagae or Guacamole, and sell every little plantlet you've got for $30 each. There are a couple of hosta growers who've got the promotion part down to a science -- they name all their new hybrids like show dogs -- Lakeside Lassie Creme Brulee and such -- and sell them for $$. Perceived scarcity sends the price up too.
Thousands of Belgians have taken to the streets of Brussels to protest against their politicians six-month failure to form a government.
The demonstration on Saturday, called by Belgium's three main trade unions, drew attention to the economic effects of the political crisis.
"People are fed up with the discussions between the political parties. This is a very serious warning to the parties to take care of the people," Bernard Noel, one of the union leaders said.
Police put the number of demonstrators at 18,000, while organisers estimated 25,000 people had turned up.
Belgium's political parties have always been divided linguistically between the country's Flemish north and the French-speaking southern region of Wallonia.
Attempts to form a new coalition government since elections six months ago have repeatedly failed.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
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A bus and a Mercedes will both go from point A to point B, but no one confuses the two.
I am squishing your head. Could you take your trite bullshit to some other lucky blog?
Miss October's fallen and she can't get up.
Iraqi oil output has risen to its highest level in more than three and a half years, the International Energy Agency (IEA) has revealed.
Production levels rose to 2.32 million barrels a day in November, the highest since the 2003 US-led invasion, the Paris based agency said, citing improved security as the reason for the new levels.
Iraq's oil industry has suffered since the 2003 invasion and ensuing fighting, which has targeted oil refining facilities and pipelines, and political infighting.
Iraq has also repaid a $471m loan with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) ahead of schedule.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...AB45097960B.htm
"His and Cheney's bank accounts."
ah. My mistake, sorry.
The Taliban claims to have carried out a co-ordinated rocket and bomb attack in Kabul, saying it is using a new tactic to strike at the heart of the Afghan capital.
The authorities said at least five civilians were killed, and several others wounded, in the attack near the governor's compound in the centre of Kabul on Saturday morning.
The compound houses the governor's office, courts and police offices.
Najib Nekzad, an interior ministry press officer, said the deaths occurred when a rocket was fired towards the police station but instead landed in a crowd of civilians.
Moments later, a car loaded with five 107mm rockets detonated near the compound.
General Zahir Azimi, a defence ministry spokesman, said two of the rockets exploded, at about 8:20am (03:50 GMT), but the other three did not.
Owen Fay, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Kabul, said: "The Taliban claim that this latest attack is effectively an experiment.
"What they are trying to find out is if they do have the means, the wherewithal to co-ordinate an attack that includes both explosives on the ground and shoulder-fired missiles shot from the hills surrounding Kabul."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...052BF8358AA.htm
CD congratulations and best wishes to all!
Part of the problems with the lack of trades people in this country has been with the Rethug defunding of Perkins Grant $$ for C.A.T.E programs. My husband is a retired C.A.T.E. teacher and Graduate instructor so I hear a lot about this issue. Educational direction has for many years been solely directed towards getting as many kids into college as possible and to hell with those whose interests didn't go that route. Son tells me that the aerage age of the experts on his jobsite is something like 56. Where ae we going to find the people to fix our infrastructore and build the new?
Miss October's fallen and she can't get up.
If she landed face down, we would hear two popping sounds.
"The sex before marriage is not worth it with them and after marriage it will be non-existent. Why? Well sex makes you happy if reasonably well done and moderately frequent (2-3 times a week). What is the down side for a such a woman with that? It ruins her life story. It kills the narrative. It also ruins her status at pity parties. Way more important than being happy or keeping a husband."
Man, someone really detests women.
Miss October boobies barely fit in the outfit
A Decon102 and a mimi will both annoy you, but reality confuses the two of them.
Saw this show on electrical lineman.
Linemen of the county?
Probably the funniest thing I ever heard on the radio.
A morning show called the head of a local electric company, posing as a sherrif's deputy. They told him that one of their linesmen was at the top of a pole & refused to come down. They claimed that they were on a marijuana eradication job & had pulled & burned a 1,000 lbs. of pot, not realizing that the worker was down wind.
Miss October boobies barely fit in the outfit
Feature, not a bug.
I am squishing your head. Could you take your trite bullshit to some other lucky blog?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Word.
I am sick of the bastard's condescending tone.
How does he breathe with his nose stuck so far into the air?
"I am squishing your head. Could you take your trite bullshit to some other lucky blog?"
For a refreshing change, try explaining what you disagree with, if in fact you disagree with what was said.
I think Miss Octobe slipped in a puddle of her own saline.
and just to clarify- i have a nephew as well as a niece, the new muffin is still in l'hopitale with mama.
cyn- don't knock what you can grow and sell on a small space that doesn't have to do with feeling mellow. i would love to grow and sell pot, but i'm not willing to risk my house on it.
the reason i get all excited about stories like this is because i think that energy is money, or at least it is in our system. if i harness the free energy from the sun i get every day on my property, how much closer to financial freedom am i? so far, my research suggests a great deal, with proper effort and planning. gardening is one part of that.
if Miss October had fallen on her front, I think her boobies would prop her up
For a refreshing change, try explaining what you disagree with, if in fact you disagree with what was said.
Econ 102
For a refreshing change, why don't YOU get lost?
Factoid: Miss October's breasts inspired Buckminster Fuller's geodesic dome concept.
For a refreshing change, try explaining what you disagree with, if in fact you disagree with what was said.
For a refreshing change, try a sulphuric acid douche.
It's been explained before, but you ignore it.
You are a jackass. Occasionally you make a good point. Your obnoxious personality is irritating. NTodd is the know it all for this board. You are redundant.
For a refreshing change, try explaining what you disagree with, if in fact you disagree with what was said.
Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 3:52 pm | #
Has it not dawned on you yet that everybody here thinks you're a braying jackass?
Are you that stupid?
It's time for some vino.
It's been explained before, but you ignore it.
It's been explained before to you that we don't like you.
You're a condescending nitwit.
Fuck off.
NTodd is the know it all for this board. You are redundant.
I'm also obnoxious. Let's not forget that.
"if Miss October had fallen on her front, I think her boobies would prop her up"
A thousands responses but I will resist.
Boy, growing hostas & selling at the farmers' market would be *easy.* Say they're organically grown (hostas don't need fertilizer or bug spray) and jack up the price another few bucks.
You say the guy made $25k in a weekend? That's a lot o'hostas.
Hola, folks --
Off to Gomorrah on the Hudson for my traditional friday evening quaffing elitist chardonnay blah blah blah you know the drill.
I don't expect to back here until tomorrow, so please, wang chung in my absence and remember I love you all more than food.
Except that Econ jerk.
No. You are not obnoxious NTodd. You are just assertive and shit.
Well that can be obnoxious at times.
Actually not really, to be fucking serious and shit.
"For a refreshing change, why don't YOU get lost?"
Install killfile, and you will be able to rid my comments from your screen.
I am squishing your head. Could you take your trite bullshit to some other lucky blog?
Hecate
There seems to be one point of unanimity here and that is that he is a fucking asshole. His name should never be mentioned without that appendage.
Hecate
does steve know it's saturday?
I'm also obnoxious. Let's not forget that.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
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12.15.07 - 3:55 pm |
how could we ever forget that?
I am sick of the bastard's condescending tone.
He's a wingnut, I've decided. Same MO: whatever you do or say is wrong. With the wingnuts, you have three choices:
1. Be selfish, don't give a damn about anyone besides yourself, like they do, and you're A-OK.
2. If you care about the world or other people, anything at all you do to make compromise (Al Gore has a house!) makes you a hypocrite.
3. If, on the other hand, you actually do live true to your beliefs (be a vegetarian, don't drive a car, whatever), you're a dirty fucking hippy, and therefor can be ignored or ridiculed.
Fucking idiot tweaks that last one a tad-- you may *think* you're living true to your beliefs, but you're stupid/ill informed or otherwise not as wise as him, so you're a loser. But basically, same MO. It could be a machine, really.
That's a lot o'hostas.
A host o' hostas.
I'm also obnoxious. Let's not forget that.
I thought you were non-obnoxious?
i don't like the calendar women's poses. the bruised one pissed me off a lot, and what's with the puppet-woman? the idea is fine, but whomever is responsible should've run it by pandagon or someone, to tone down the misogyny that seems nigh unavoidable when people make pr0n.
Where ae we going to find the people to fix our infrastructore and build the new?
therealhellkitty |
mexico, central america, even africa. they're already here and doing the work, but they're undocumented and thus "unskilled." and paid less of course. destroying all levels of union, educated, professional workers has always been a rethug goal.
" Decon 103 |"
Nice avatar.
"Has it not dawned on you yet that everybody here thinks you're a braying jackass?
Are you that stupid?"
No - he's smarter than you. Just ask.
I tried telling him to heed my mama's words that it's not what you say it's the way you say it. No luck. maybe he killfiled me.
He really doesn't get it.
My son just dumped a potted plant on the carpet and ground it in. Now, that's obnoxious.
He really doesn't get it.
No, it does get it. Its only goal is to provoke. In that, it succeeds quite well.
cyn- don't knock what you can grow and sell on a small space that doesn't have to do with feeling mellow. i would love to grow and sell pot, but i'm not willing to risk my house on it.
No, if it works, great! i just couldn't imagine making a living from so little land unless you were growing illegals. i live in farm country after all. Several hundred acres of corn or soybeans is considered relatively modest here.
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My son just dumped a potted plant on the carpet and ground it in. Now, that's obnoxious.
Don't worry, he's about to demonstrate an amazing new vacuum leader.
Moe sure doesn't like being shown to be incorrect. Look at that.
Saw the post below re. conservatives negative on Huckabee. He presents a real problem for the Republican Party with his populist economics. The Republican Party has 2 pillars: the religious right & Wall Street & their well to do supporters.
Huckabee splits them. If a Huckabee presidency didn't mean the end of abortion rights, I wouldn't be so down on him. It would be interesting to see the religious right - Wall Street wars, with it signaling the end of the Republican Party as a formidable force.
my mum was given as an Xmas gift a potted Winter Rose from her sister
its rather lovely and when its in full bloom I will try and photograph it
"cleaner" damnit
My son just dumped a potted plant on the carpet and ground it in. Now, that's obnoxious.
NTodd can come down and help your son with the other potted plants.
Has it not dawned on you yet that everybody here thinks you're a braying jackass?
There was an episode of Cheers, where Dianne asked Sam if he knew the difference between himself and a braying jackass. Sam said no, what's the difference. And Dianne said the braying jackass would know.
The irony is that I'm much greener than you are, Moe. I think that's what really makes it the funniest.
Did I say Friday?
Yipes.
Talk to you all tomorrow....
Econ tries to come off as the voice of reason. But then a change kicks in. And it is something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...h?
v=LEXmYxuY5Q8
Moe sure doesn't like being shown to be incorrect. Look at that.
Econ 102
Enlighten me. See, that's the thing: in all this back and forth, you never put up a suggestion for how one should move forward.
I thought you were non-obnoxious?
I am on my blog. Here, I'm obnoxious.
There's a problem with Miss October?
Frankly I wouldn't change a thing.
The irony is that I'm much greener than you are, Moe. I think that's what really makes it the funniest.
Oh, wow. Just. Wow.
If a Huckabee presidency didn't mean the end of abortion rights, I wouldn't be so down on him.
Carter
He's a religious fanatic. That AND the anti-choice stuff turns me off completely.
The entire Repuke field is creepy - each in their own individual way.
And Keyes joining the fray......
I iz sipping a nice glass of red wine, a Lussac-St-Emilion, from the Bordeux region (it uses two grapes - Merlot and Cabernet Sauvignon)
You say the guy made $25k in a weekend? That's a lot o'hostas.
strawhat |
anyone can say anything on a website. but i do know what i pay for plants, and which ones grow on my property easiest. with a little planning and some market permits, i bet one could clear a goodly amount in one season.
the trick is to know your market. here in flyover land, gardening isn't so sophisticated yet. most properties lack the finish you would see more commonly in yurp or on the elitist coasts. so one could make a lot of money selling "exotic" plants that aren't commonly seen. or take the pedestrian route, and just give the cretins what they want (more hostas). either way it's easy money.
Keyes has no purpose. Huckabee isn't crazy enough?
Afternoon, rational people.
He's a religious fanatic.
That alone needs to bar admission to the Oval Office. It's just too powerful these days.
Econ operates from the assumption that all this green shit is about lording it over other people, which is why he likes to attack Moe from positions of ignorance/weakness (the tree cutting thing is a perfect example). And then, "I'm greener than you."
For him it's about sanctimony, not an earnest, honest desire to mitigate our impact on the planet. Typical of conservatives and other such people.
any gooper will make appointments to the supreme court that will overturn roe v wade and other human rights.
Oh, wow. Just. Wow.
See what I'm saying? Just provocation, nothing else.
Iraqi oil output has risen to its highest level in more than three and a half years, the International Energy Agency (IEA) has revealed.
Production levels rose to 2.32 million barrels a day in November, the highest since the 2003 US-led invasion, the Paris based agency said, citing improved security as the reason for the new levels
Funny. i could swear that Iraq's oil has been sold without being metered for the last several years. That is "nobody' knows how much Iraqu oil was sold because 'nobody' was measuring the production.
So, if they went from pretending that the meter didn't work, official production zero, to admitting the measured production, wouldn't that just give you a hell of a jump in production? Gawrsh, they are so stable! We're winning!
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(the tree cutting thing is a perfect example).
Yes it is. And I wiped my ass with his stupid arguments. You think he would sulk away in shame after that, but no.
He's a religious fanatic.
That alone needs to bar admission to the Oval Office. It's just too powerful these days.
MP |
My daughter's take on Huckabee:
"Anyone who believes that the earth is only 6,000 years old should be automatically barred from seeking political office.
That person is insane!"
OK, I have two more inches to knit on the sleeve for G/Son's sweater. Which I am determined to finish before xmas. Talk to you elite haters later.
anyone can say anything on a website.
No.
Fucking.
Way!
Ah, but I have to run catch the bus. I'll check back and see if any attempt was made to enlighten me, hee.
See ya'all later.
My son just dumped a potted plant on the carpet and ground it in. Now, that's obnoxious.
trifecta
haloscum, if i already said this, why isn't it POSTED!
Whenever I get nostalgic for the wee ones, I read one of your posts and think, thank the goddess those days are over.
...
..
bye for now, Have I Got News For You is on
any gooper will make appointments to the supreme court that will overturn roe v wade and other human rights.
Liars for Bush
Absolutely.
It's amazing how willing the GOP is to do the "turrists'" work FOR them.
Yes it is. And I wiped my ass with his stupid arguments. You think he would sulk away in shame after that, but no.
Moe Szyslak, employed
WT is right. It's all about fights. I suspect this may be Zod actually.
I'm not saying I would buy the Mistresses calendar, but the poses and makeup are so outrageous--such a parody--that I'm not that offended by them.
I do think they should have done a Misters of GWB, since that would have been much more appropriate.
See what I'm saying? Just provocation, nothing else.
No.
Fucking.
Way!
"Enlighten me. See, that's the thing: in all this back and forth, you never put up a suggestion for how one should move forward."
That's interesting, Moe. I recall having a discussion with you about aviation's impact on the climate, and when I challenged some of your assumptions, you absolutely blew your lid - a mixture of abusive insults and many, many words about what an informed genius and ethically wonderful human being you are. Since that point in time, you have continued with a ceaseless barrage of profanity-laden insults and such, so it would be quite difficult under those conditions to pursue a rational and intelligent exchange of the issues.
Why don't you make a modicum of effort to assume that I am informed and just as concerned about things like the global environment as you are. Then perhaps it would be possible to have a discussion that may prove fruitful.
Frankly, I don't have much faith that you'd be willing to try that.
That person is insane!"
Terry C - Democratic Bitch
Anybody who openly claims to answer to any authority other than the United States Constitution, needs not be the President.
Going to a top university isn't just about the classes one takes and the books one reads.
Econ102
Then tell us why and tell is what you think it's about?
Why don't you make a modicum of effort to assume that I am informed
Because your attitude sucks.
Anybody who openly claims to answer to any authority other than the United States Constitution, needs not be the President.
MP
That works for me.
"I suspect this may be Zod actually."
--trifecta
Sounds more like the Live Free or Die guy to me. But they might be the same person for all I know.
I do think they should have done a Misters of GWB, since that would have been much more appropriate.
I volunteer tigre/atta to collect all the pics of bald men Bush has rubbed...
No.
Fucking.
Way!
[gently kicks NTodd in the tushie]
I am on my blog. Here, I'm obnoxious.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 4:01 pm | #
Now come on NTodd. You're a tad obnoxious everywhere.
CD -- have you ever checked the Hostas forum on GardenWeb.com? There are some fanatics out there.
Hostas are popular in Chicagoland because (1) they're low maintenance, (2) they like shade, and (3) they yawn at winter. Their only fault is that deer think they're salads.
Hmm. I'd often thought that if times got bad I'd grow potatoes in the back yard as my ancestors did, but hostas might be more profitable.
I do think they should have done a Misters of GWB, since that would have been much more appropriate.
mer
Thanks, mer. That's the first laugh I've had all day, and I really needed it.
"I wiped my ass with his stupid arguments."
That sort of comment sums it up about you, Moe.
[gently kicks NTodd in the tushie]
watertiger
No flirting!
Sounds more like the Live Free or Die guy to me. But they might be the same person for all I know.
mer
IIRC, LFoD just says dumb shit.
He doesn't talk down to people.
Off to Gomorrah on the Hudson for my traditional friday evening quaffing elitist chardonnay blah blah blah you know the drill.
It's Saturday, ain't it? This could lead to embarrassment.
I'd like to share a nice little story with you. Today I dropped my wallet on the way back from the store. I didn't even know it was missing. It had the usual wallet stuff in it.
About 10 minutes ago a guy came by and returned it. All the stuff still inside.
I like to this is a good sign. I also know that I have found and returned wallets before so I know that I have done the same for others.
But still, a very nice feeling.
Noodles
If a Huckabee presidency didn't mean the end of abortion rights, I wouldn't be so down on him.
Carter
He's a religious fanatic. That AND the anti-choice stuff turns me off completely.
The entire Repuke field is creepy - each in their own individual way.
And Keyes joining the fray......
Terry C
Hi Terry:
Yea, but out of all of them, Huckabee would destroy the Republican Party. I'd pay to watch & invite you all over for the popcorn. Yea, & Keyes, he's all the Republican candidates' inner self. The man is crystal meth bonkers. Anyone catch him at the recent Repub debate?
"I suspect this may be Zod actually."
you might be right - but Zod would have had a meltdown by now.
Why don't you make a modicum of effort to assume that I am informed...
Because that would clearly be a bad assumption.
When he left, Zod threatened to come back under another name.
America isn't ready, and may never be ready, to embrace a black President.
Hi Terry:
Yea, but out of all of them, Huckabee would destroy the Republican Party. I'd pay to watch & invite you all over for the popcorn. Yea, & Keyes, he's all the Republican candidates' inner self. The man is crystal meth bonkers. Anyone catch him at the recent Repub debate?
Carter
Keyes is a genuine nutjob: he knows four subjects - abortion, abortion, abortion and hatin' on gay people.
"Because your attitude sucks."
right. econ 102 might well be informed but the fortune cookie comments and the condescension are just off.
Yea, but out of all of them, Huckabee would destroy the Republican Party. I'd pay to watch & invite you all over for the popcorn. Yea, & Keyes, he's all the Republican candidates' inner self. The man is crystal meth bonkers. Anyone catch him at the recent Repub debate?
Carter
Here's what I don't get: Alan Keyes has lost every election he has ever run in, and lost big.
Why is he suddenly the go-to guy on GOP politics?
"you might be right - but Zod would have had a meltdown by now."
Meds must be helping a bit.
I do think they should have done a Misters of GWB, since that would have been much more appropriate.
mer
exactly. 'bush's bohunky bottoms' or 'cash, cronies and cracks' would've been way funnier. then again, only republicans would buy that one.
"I wiped my ass with his stupid arguments."
That sort of comment sums it up about you, Moe.
Yeah, because he was fucking right, you fucktard. You attacked completely from ignorance. Green waste truck, Dude.
[gently kicks NTodd in the tushie]
Do that again!
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I am on my blog. Here, I'm obnoxious.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 4:01 pm | #
Now come on NTodd. You're a tad obnoxious everywhere.
i find him foul mouthed & irritating.
cd is right.
Friends and relatives of ours make a good living that way. Some have hydroponic greenhouses. We're thinking rather than build a couple of row houses on our close-in big lot...might put up a couple of greenhouses.
"I'd like to share a nice little story with you."
That's great. It's good to know there's people like that.
you might be right - but Zod would have had a meltdown by now.
Zod on meds?????
right. econ 102 might well be informed but the fortune cookie comments and the condescension are just off.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
No sane person enjoys being treated like a four year old.
The "genius addressing a dolt" attitude is very off-putting.
you might be right - but Zod would have had a meltdown by now.
He's had mini-Zod meltdowns, but I'm not convinced he is Zod.
I think Miss October slipped in a puddle of her own saline.
If I were attracted to breasts like that I'd buy my own and reduce the effort.
EkCenTriK | 12.15.07 - 4:14 pm | #
Damn, I owe you a coke.
Here's what I don't get: Alan Keyes has lost every election he has ever run in, and lost big.
Why is he suddenly the go-to guy on GOP politics?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
His presence clearly demonstrates the overall racial diversity of Republicans.
Now come on NTodd. You're a tad obnoxious everywhere.
i find him foul mouthed & irritating.
1Watt, Hermit
I appreciate the constructive criticism. No, really.
Huckabee would destroy the Republican Party. I'd pay to watch & invite you all over for the popcorn. Yea, & Keyes, he's all the Republican candidates' inner self. The man is crystal meth bonkers
The problem i see with assumptions here is that people who are 'crystal meth bonkers' are believers in the madness they believe. They are focused, they stick by it, no matter that it's nonsensical.
when such is opposed by triangulating, focus-grouped, James Carville advised stands-for-nothing-but-I-wanna-be-elected, the average Joe Schmuck picks the nutcase who has a sincere stance of SOME kind, rather than the cleverdick speechmaker.
and we get 4 more bad years. Or worse years.
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Yea, but out of all of them, Huckabee would destroy the Republican Party
I think someone who's initials are GWBush may have beaten him to it.
Here's what I don't get: Alan Keyes has lost every election he has ever run in, and lost big.
Why is he suddenly the go-to guy on GOP politics?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
I hate to sound like a smart-ass and please don't get the wrong idea, but:
If Alan Keyes was white, the GOP would nominate him in a heartbeart.
any gooper will make appointments to the supreme court that will overturn roe v wade and other human rights.
Liars for Bush
Good point. I short circuited myself. Also, I sense that Huckabee would be the strongest opponent against us. His aw schucks mannerisms work well on TV. Anyone catch where he was asked about the recent NIE report on Iran's nuclear program & he said wasn't familiar with it. Then, when pressed, admitted didn't know what a NIE report was.
Here's what I don't get: Alan Keyes has lost every election he has ever run in, and lost big.
Why is he suddenly the go-to guy on GOP politics?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
They promoted him to ticket taker outside their Big Tent.
America isn't ready, and may never be ready, to embrace a black President.
lean | 12.15.07 - 4:13 pm | #
Speak for yourself, racist!
"I'm not convinced he is Zod."
neither am I.
I see Jagoff 102 hasn't gotten bored yet.
America isn't ready, and may never be ready, to embrace a black President.
lean
Why not, jack?
They've embraced a moron twice.
cd is right.
Friends and relatives of ours make a good living that way. Some have hydroponic greenhouses. We're thinking rather than build a couple of row houses on our close-in big lot...might put up a couple of greenhouses.
ErinPDX | 12.15.07 - 4:14 pm | #
There is a couple who raise cold weather greens in un heated greenhouses here in Wisc. Mostly spinach. They can sell all they raise and overhead in not too high.
Sounds more like the Live Free or Die guy to me. But they might be the same person for all I know.
mer
I'm the single troll theorist, so I vote for the latter hypothesis.
With the exception of Petzoid, I think they're mostly all this guy...
I have a long record, mostly under other names, of provoking some of the best conversations these threads have ever seen.The intellectuals in this community need a parasite to draw them out.Otherwise they just talk about alcohol, sex, and cookies.
jack | 03.31.06 - 1:41 am | #
Who also gets paid pennies to write stuff like this...
How to Get Banned from Liberal Blogs
http://
www.associatedcontent.com...eral_blogs.html
"No sane person enjoys being treated like a four year old.
The "genius addressing a dolt" attitude is very off-putting."
yeah. and if he could lose that it'd cut the obnoxious in half.
but he can't.
His presence clearly demonstrates the overall racial diversity of Republicans.
Bond, James Bond
If I were a Republican, I would much prefer J.C. Watts for that role because he presents himself with at least a modicum of sense.
Mr. Keyes is just, well, nuts.
America isn't ready, and may never be ready, to embrace a black President.
lean
Oh, fuck that. What are you, Walter Winchell reporting a "this just in" from 1949? This country has made it obvious it doesn't care who it elects.
Keyes is in it to split votes from Hucksterbee. That's my take anyway.
Otherwise they just talk about alcohol, sex, and cookies.
jack | 03.31.06 - 1:41 am
Why does that BOTHER trollie so much?
His presence clearly demonstrates the overall racial diversity of Republicans.
Bond, James Bond
"Alan Keyes - because CRAZY comes in ALL colors!"
Yea, but out of all of them, Huckabee would destroy the Republican Party
This I don't get.
A deranged monkey couldn't do it, so why would a con man?
alcohol, sex, and cookies.
And bacon.
Here's what I don't get: Alan Keyes has lost every election he has ever run in, and lost big. Why is he suddenly the go-to guy on GOP politics?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Honey, Keyes makes a high income living off of appearing on these debates. He then goes on the speaker circuit the next 3 years, making a few thousand a pop. I'd be willing to appear on the Repub debates & howl at the moon for his gig.
Keyes is in it to split votes from Hucksterbee. That's my take anyway.
ql
Whoa!
I hadn't considered that. You may very well be right.
Mr. Keyes is just, well, nuts.
But very earnest. And articulate. And clean.
I swear that was a <i> tag.
If I were a Republican, I would much prefer J.C. Watts for that role because he presents himself with at least a modicum of sense.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
His own father said that "a black person who votes Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders."
alcohol, sex, and cookies.
Name three things jack can't handle.
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Thinking about Blankfield, Fridays and Meds, one of my favorite sketches.
http://tinyurl.com/23wb3q
"But very earnest."
it's important to be earnest, I've heard.
Honey, Keyes makes a high income living off of appearing on these debates. He then goes on the speaker circuit the next 3 years, making a few thousand a pop. I'd be willing to appear on the Repub debates & howl at the moon for his gig.
Carter
Who the FUCK would PAY to listen to Alan Keyes?
Cspan2 has a biographer of Sinclair Lewis: Rebel from Main Street.
"alcohol, sex, and cookies."
at the same time?
alcohol, sex, and cookies.
And music and books and movies.
Cspan2 has a biographer of Sinclair Lewis: Rebel from Main Street.
king |
That's nice, dear.
Now run along and watch it.
Thing is, Alan Keyes isn't a nutjob. He's just been cleverly gaming the process for some pretty good coin.
it's important to be earnest, I've heard.
You're a Wilde man, Blodge.
Sinclair Lewis dropped out of Yale to become a janitor for Upton Sinclair.
Thing is, Alan Keyes isn't a nutjob. He's just been cleverly gaming the process for some pretty good coin.
MP
But he keeps getting his ass handed to him.
Who the FUCK would PAY to listen to Alan Keyes?
Corporatists who want their world view validated. in other words, the same as all the other Republicans on the speech circuit.
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Being a pacifist doesn't mean just opposing wars.
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America isn't ready, and may never be ready, to embrace a black President.
lean
Probably what all those Bell Curve igits are trying to impress upon us.
"alcohol, sex, and cookies."
"That's entertainment.....!"
Keyes is quite a coup for a fundy church.
$3,000 to $5,000 a speech. He does about 6 of those a month, and he is making a very nice living.
Who the FUCK would PAY to listen to Alan Keyes?
People with Federal grants to study the insane?
"You're a Wilde man, Blodge."
at times...
But he keeps getting his ass handed to him.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch
He doesn't *really* want the responsibility of holding public office.
He just wants the face time.
Being a pacifist doesn't mean just opposing wars.
Wow. That's fucking deep.
He doesn't *really* want the responsibility of holding public office.
He just wants the face time.
MP '
That voice alone drives me up the goddamn wall.
The period between Thanksgiving and New Year's is the sexiest time of year.
Thing is, Alan Keyes isn't a nutjob. He's just been cleverly gaming the process for some pretty good coin.
MP
But he keeps getting his ass handed to him.
Guy who wins the prize fight gets $5 million, sure, but the guy who hits the canvas gets $3 million, then losing ain't all bad.
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"Thing is, Alan Keyes isn't a nutjob. He's just been cleverly gaming the process for some pretty good coin."
--MP
I disagree. Have you ever heard him when he fills in for Limpball? He's a nutjob in my book.
Being a pacifist doesn't mean just opposing wars.
Econ 102
You're right. I'm against kicking your ass.
Everybody poops.
Bob Kerrey
hope he never supports you.
he is a clinton endorser but announced he thinks Obama will be the nominee
"You're a Wilde man, Blodge."
at times...
You have a troll, er...friend named Jack?
I disagree. Have you ever heard him when he fills in for Limpball? He's a nutjob in my book.
mer
I feel the same way about O'Lielly. They're just playing their *actual* nutjob audience for yet another Boca mansion.
Yea, but out of all of them, Huckabee would destroy the Republican Party
This I don't get. A deranged monkey couldn't do it, so why would a con man?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
The Repub Party can function with a deranged monkey. Hell, they've been doing it since Reagen. But their party infrastructure consists of 2 central elements: the religious right & the Wall Street crowd. They need both to be viable. The Wall Street crowd provides the money; the religious right constitutes the base.
Huckabee's candidacy is an attack on the Wall Street crowd. A large part of his spiel is the old testament prophets' attack on the money changers. If he gets in, there will be a war between the Wall Street crowd & the religious right within the Republican Party.
Pass the popcorn.
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Otherwise they just talk about alcohol, sex, and cookies.
jack | 03.31.06 - 1:41 am
Why does that BOTHER trollie so much?
They're all 5 yrs. old. There was a good study pointing out that at age 5 there is a turning point of awareness (from self to others). Conservatives obviously don't make the transition
"Guy who wins the prize fight gets $5 million, sure, but the guy who hits the canvas gets $3 million, then losing ain't all bad."
That's a very useful concept to understand. Nice observation.
Guy who wins the prize fight gets $5 million, sure, but the guy who hits the canvas gets $3 million, then losing ain't all bad.
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Cynicus
Except for the brain damage that shows up later.
Question of the Day.
Will the first black American President be a Republican or a Democrat?
I just get a carnival barker vibe from all of the high profile rightwing media personalities.
one of our trolls sez critical thinking has no value in the 'real world.'
the scary part is, this one is nice and honestly doesn't understand why we're mocking him. for supporting hucksterbee, of course. seems like mike has the Unthinking American vote locked solid.
The period between Thanksgiving and New Year's is the sexiest time of year.
Econ 102
annie?
CD -
I clicked through to the portfolio shots of the photographer.
Let's say Burke Heffner has some other images (and even a series) that are blatently non-PC.
(However, dude does have a GREAT eye for images.)
"I feel the same way about O'Lielly. They're just playing their *actual* nutjob audience for yet another Boca mansion."
--MP
Okay, I see what you're saying, but nutjobs beget nutjob joiners.
"You have a troll, er...friend named Jack?"
had an uncle jack.
he's dead.
Question of the Day.
Will the first black American President be a Republican or a Democrat?
Bond, James Bond
Democrat.
Repugs will never vote for a black presidential candidate.
The racism is too ingrained there.
When did Alan Keyes hit the scene?
The earliest I remember is the Reagan years.
And it seems like he's been hovering ever since then, diving in to muddy the public discourse when called upon to do so.
There was a good study pointing out that at age 5 there is a turning point of awareness (from self to others).
I talk about that in my ethics lecture. Ask a kid, "is stealing wrong?" Absolutes and shades of gray in answers depend on their ages...
Guy who wins the prize fight gets $5 million, sure, but the guy who hits the canvas gets $3 million, then losing ain't all bad.
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Cynicus
Except for the brain damage that shows up later.
Making the GOP speech circuit a viable second career after prizefighting. that's not a bug but a feature!
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Will the first black American President be a Republican or a Democrat?
It will be a 3rd party nominee.
Good afternoon/evening, peeps.
Econ, how's that letter to Dr. Black coming along? Did he answer you yet?
yeah. and if he could lose that it'd cut the obnoxious in half.
but he can't.
His whole schtick is to attempt to show what terrible awful hypocrites we are. He can't play the victim without first drawing insults and for that, he either has to start off by acting like an asshole and/or saying the equivalent of 1+1=3. When he's reached the point where he's got people reacting negatively to him on a knee-jerk level, he'll then say the occasional thing that makes sense and then use the continued insults as proof of his righteousness.
There's just too many millions of uneducated, pissed off, kneejerk audience members in this country for me to think that Fox and Limbaugh, etc. are nothing more than "drug pushers", of a sort.
I want Keyes to run for Senate again to break a new record low.
In 1988, he got 38% against Sarbanes. That was his high mark. He got 29% in 1992 against Mikulski. In 2004, he got 27% against Obama.
That is one heck of a resume for a Presidential candidate.
My understanding is that Keyes largely gets his money from speaking at conservative universities, where the fundies come to hear him, & RW religious schools.
the scary part is, this one is nice and honestly doesn't understand why we're mocking him. for supporting hucksterbee, of course. seems like mike has the Unthinking American vote locked solid.
I agree. Huckabee is like one of those infomercial spokesmen. Especially the one who used to sell coral calcium. He is selling Jesus-patented snake oil.
Being a pacifist doesn't mean just opposing wars.
Econ 102 | 12.15.07 - 4:27 pm | #
There is a certain mechanical nature to his posts....a sonic dissonance.....not really a conversation.....more of a soliloquy.
When he's reached the point where he's got people reacting negatively to him on a knee-jerk level, he'll then say the occasional thing that makes sense and then use the continued insults as proof of his righteousness.
Several of "them" use this method.
His whole schtick is to attempt to show what terrible awful hypocrites we are.
THAT is what makes him very Zod-like.
Huckabee's candidacy is an attack on the Wall Street crowd. A large part of his spiel is the old testament prophets' attack on the money changers. If he gets in, there will be a war between the Wall Street crowd & the religious right within the Republican Party.
Pass the popcorn.
Carter | 12.15.07 - 4:31 pm | #
Hucksterbee believes that fire and brimstone shit about as much as we do. He's just a con man out for himself like every televangelist. He and big business are a perfect match.
"There is a certain mechanical nature to his posts....a sonic dissonance.....not really a conversation.....more of a soliloquy."
fortune cookies.
Huckabee's candidacy is an attack on the Wall Street crowd. A large part of his spiel is the old testament prophets' attack on the money changers. If he gets in, there will be a war between the Wall Street crowd & the religious right within the Republican Party.
Potential problem here. Suppose the Wall Street crowd has decided thy have juiced America dry, so they convert the cash to euros, the stocks to multinationals, and just head to San Moritz for the season?
they can leave behind a destroyed Third World country under a religious dictatorship, and it's as nothing to them.
Roosevelt had a "New Deal". they have a "Big Deal". "America's fucked? Big Deal! I'm rich!"
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There is a certain mechanical nature to his posts....a sonic dissonance.....not really a conversation.....more of a soliloquy.
All the world's a stage...
That is why I think it is Zod. Zod a month or ago said he would come back as a new character. This is Zod like behavior. Often attacking from the left, or portraying himself as a liberal who was better than the declasse peeps here.
Its the same troll.
Always the same.
What's the fortune cookies thing all about?
I mean, when you lead any argument with Jesus and the American flag, you can say just about anything to a lot of people.
Keyes make a fine living making the republikkkans look slightly less racist.
Steve Benen pointed out that Huckabee actually dropped out of theological school.
He became a baptist minister because you get called, and need no formal schooling.
Huckabee spent 2 1/2 years at a christian college and got his B.A. in that time, then quit theological school.
Well, are there regular hours-long stretches when there are no trolls? If it's one, then even it has to sleep sometime.
Watching ER doesn't make one a surgeon.
Let's say Burke Heffner has some other images (and even a series) that are blatently non-PC.
you mean he's a misogynist? please, just say so.
not all pr0n, nor all the people who make it, are misogynists, but a heck of a lot of them are. i'd love for that to change, but then again i like text pr0n, and so i don't really care about the photo stuff.
i do wish it weren't so unpopular to say "that offends me and i wish we didn't have to look at it," the bruise on one model had me steaming for a minute or two, and wondering why someone "liberal" thought it was a good idea. ha ha, beating women is so "sexy," i guess. or perhaps i'm supposed to assume she "wanted it," and therefore it's ok.
That is why I think it is Zod. Zod a month or ago said he would come back as a new character.
Yes, though he still visits as Zod. Also, he said we'd like his new character at first and then turn on him, "proving" his "point," at which he would laugh. LAUGH! Haha! But I don't think anybody liked Econ in the beginning, 'cept maybe mimi--certainly none of the people he likes to target.
There's just too many millions of uneducated, pissed off, kneejerk audience members in this country for me to think that Fox and Limbaugh, etc. are nothing more than "drug pushers", of a sort.
the concept you need is that of an "enabler".
Consider Fox Limbaugh as the equivalent of the pusher who says "If I don't sell these poor addicts their heroin, they will suffer horribly from withdrawal!"
Ask how they got addicted? Selective deafness to the question.
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Is there ever more than one troll at a time here?
I have seen two here occasionally.
I think Pud and Gary were here at the same time once.
I guess those ads are parodies of the rightwing objectification of women, but I agree they are getting more and more creepy.
Well, are there regular hours-long stretches when there are no trolls?
Having spent many hours on this here blog during many different shifts depending on my insomnia, I have to say for the most part, no. Though generally the early morning appears to be the least infested, if only because there are significantly fewer people on at those times. Presumably the greatest number of trolls are in the US, with a peculiar concentration in the Austin, TX, area.
Sure. Often two, rarely interchange between them, though (although it does happen. That's Dave's "Sockpuppet Theater."
More often, one comes, flames out, 5 minutes later it's another name, starting fresh. When he's really on, they all show up in one afternoon.
Watching ER doesn't make one a surgeon.
Econ 102
Reading free republic doesn't make you an asshole.
Reading this blog doesn't make you a good person.
Fucking my girlfriend though will cost you one penis.
Oh, shit!
A Romanian man had his bid to renew his identity papers rejected because official records said he had died more than eight years ago. Gheorghe Stirbu, 61, a retiree, went to authorities last week to have his identity card reissued because the old one had expired.
But the clerk said he couldn't issue new papers because the office had a death certificate showing that Stirbu himself had expired on March 3, 1999, from breathing difficulties, and been buried the same month.
"When I saw it I couldn't believe it," Stirbu said Thursday. "How can someone who is fully alive be declared dead?"
Stirbu said he was not ill at the time, nor does the death certificate appear to be a case of mistaken identity.
Stirbu's daughter Iuliana Mocanu said the shock of hearing that he was officially dead could have killed him.
"At first I laughed because I though it was a joke and then I realized how serious it was," she said. "He could have had a heart attack. He didn't sleep for days when he found out the news."
Stirbu has prepared papers to prove he is still alive.
"We have had mistakes in the past," said Vasile Tarciatu, the head of bureau that issues identity papers. "But not something so serious showing someone had died."
with a peculiar concentration in the Austin, TX, area.
Several of "them" use this method.
Marcellina
Were you around earlier when the fucking idiot and mimi were hooking up. It was quite amusing.
remind me to go out & turn on the well house heater before i go to bed.
The trolls work for a living so the early morning and early afternoon are the least infested.
Rove and people like him know that people are confused and frustrated with the thought that no enemy exists.
Were you around earlier when the fucking idiot and mimi were hooking up. It was quite amusing.
It made me so very exceedingly jealous.
Watching ER doesn't make one a surgeon.
Wearing a flight suit and landing on an aircraft carrier doesn't make one a war hero.
THAT is what makes him very Zod-like.
It's just Zod under a different name. No matter what new character he invents, they all ultimately have that same agenda- out to show the world that he's "smart" and we're not and that we're all just a bunch of hypocrites. It sticks out like a sore thumb every time.
Nice snow coming down....got about two inches...expecting 6 more before morning.
The trolls work for a living
You're funny.
Apropos of nothing, another of my rants:
The teebee people sell their airtime for ads because their effect on people's minds is so powerful, they say. Just 30 seconds can make millions remember, want,buy your products - so much so that during the Super Bowl, that 30 seconds can cost half a million bucks.
but call them on the effect their programming has on people's minds, and they squall "We're just entertainers! We gots no influence! Aduclts know better!" and so on ad nauseam.
why do we never call them on that doublethink?
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"What's the fortune cookies thing all about?"
his comments sound like what you might find in a fortune cookie
I'd just like a debate moderator to say "Look, Jesus died around the time of Caesar Augustus. We need to know how you plan to lead this nation two thousand years later...without regard to Caesar Augustus."
My good morning to you peeps.
hmmm... I really liked the alicublog links. Why have I not been reading there?
And what's up with the ramen noodle conspiracy?
The trolls work for a living
Yep.
Trolling liberal blogs.
Were you around earlier when the fucking idiot and mimi were hooking up. It was quite amusing.
I liked "xyz" greeting Econ in French yesterday, and then mimi showing up within minutes to say "That wasn't me."
But my favorite troll exchange is still angel annie dissing her as a bad person.
Jeez, this thread's still going on?
evening moonbats
how you plan to lead this nation two thousand years later...without regard to Caesar Augustus......
But, but, but he's coming again....don't you know?
Wow, Miss October is quite nice. Notice there's another woman's arm just to her right? Mmmmmmmmmm - girls!!
the bruise on one model had me steaming for a minute or two, and wondering why someone "liberal" thought it was a good idea. ha ha, beating women is so "sexy," i guess. or perhaps i'm supposed to assume she "wanted it," and therefore it's ok.
chicago dyke, bitch
My thoughts exactly, chi.
Were you around earlier when the fucking idiot and mimi were hooking up. It was quite amusing.
Too bad it's just recycled material. It's the old Shoelimpy/annieangel self-love fest under a new banner.
Way too long.
But my favorite troll exchange is still angel annie dissing her as a bad person.
Marcellina
You mean Butler?
This is an idiot who dislikes women as he pretends to be one.
Fortune cookies:
could one program his or her computer to throw out timed comments without being present to actually do it?
These often sound like they are being posted automatically.
Would explain why they have nothing to do with the current topics.
It's the old Shoelimpy/annieangel self-love fest under a new banner.
Richard
And just as pathetic.
So, who am I bunking with in March?
I'd just like a debate moderator to say "Look, Jesus died around the time of Caesar Augustus. We need to know how you plan to lead this nation two thousand years later...without regard to Caesar Augustus."
Considering Dubbyah's Imperial powers, and the decline of the Senate and the Republic, i would say we're still under Caesar Augustus.
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Nice snow coming down....got about two inches...expecting 6 more before morning.
We were supposed to get 6-8 inches of now today, just now dropped below freezing & started to snow. Had good rains this week, first time the creek has flowed over the dam since July.
Miss October is tres creepy!
"Miss October is tres creepy!"
most of em have not as they say "done it for me"
Considering Dubbyah's Imperial powers, and the decline of the Senate and the Republic, i would say we're still under Caesar Augustus.
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Cynicus
More like under Gaius Julius Caesar.
Better known to history as Little Boots....or Caligula.
Miss October is tres creepy!
Terry C - Democratic Bitch
She's very...enhanced. Those babies stick straight up.
Miss October is tres creepy!
Terry C - Democratic Bitch
She seems okay--it's just that boob that was clearly a reject at auditions for The Blob!
oops--the 'surplus pussy' is for roy!
Miss October is tres creepy!
Terry C - Democratic Bitch
She's very...enhanced. Those babies stick straight up.
Marcellina
She's got enough make-up on for SIX women.
I had to unblock blog ad images for a minute to see what the heck y'all are talking about.
Needless to say, I've turned the blocker back on.
"oops--the 'surplus pussy' is for roy!"
oh...
and I was hoping...
and I was hoping...
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
I must say Miss October's Boobs don't look natural at all
sheets
Only Austria would have a "Sieg-heil"ing Santa.
owls!!!!!!!!!!
Octavian, Caligula - the decline is so much faster these days the current Emperor has to be all the Julio-Claudians at once.
at least our current Emperors have improved on 'bread and circuses'. The teebee circuses are so much better than the old kind that they have used them to convince the masses they shouldn't get the bread. Great savings.
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OK, generally if I blogwhore, Atrios immediately puts up a new post.
Maybe this will work.
owls!!!!!!!!!!
spinoza, non ridere, non luger
QED
"Maybe this will work."
you're good.
Watching the DVD of "Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol."
I love that one. Never gets old.
"I love that one. Never gets old."
with razzleberry dressing?
"I love that one. Never gets old."
with razzleberry dressing?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Absolutely.
Heehee, just got off the phone with the CodePink house. They said it's "cold" down there. 38F. Here? 4F.
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