People behave better when they have decent jobs.
Ralphie |
07.12.08 - 6:51 am | #
Bob Herbert explains patiently how Team Blue should be taking Team Red apart at the seams.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 6:51 am | #
Repost:
The Republicans have institutionalized sociopathy.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 6:51 am | #
Hmmm...seems to me you can take the point made by Barry Crimmins' recent extraordinary post a little further: The urge to spew "lock 'em up" is just a way to change the subject, to by bypass any inconvenient introspection or explanation.
Bonus points to the first commenter making a "prison rape" joke.
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 6:51 am | #
Are musicians owed royalties for performance of their music in torture chambers?
Maybe they've been given transactional immunity.
megisi |
07.12.08 - 6:51 am | #
Being tough on Iran is going to be the last stupid trick the WH pulls, last for us all if they do it.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 6:52 am | #
Are musicians owed royalties for performance of their music in torture chambers?
Royalties are quaint.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 6:52 am | #
Also, when deregulation makes a mess, they tell you that the problem is that you didn't deregulate enough.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 6:53 am | #
(Turns out ProfW linked to Herbert two threads ago. ProfW, I owe you something good. Not for the first time.)
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 6:53 am | #
this idea that someone in Obama's camp had to get him to speak in front of the Brandenburg Gate is the most ridiculous I have heard in a long time.
he's not the elected leader of a country and he's still only campaigning. what makes him think he has any more right to speak in front of the Brandenburg Gate than I do?
and whoever heard of someone campaigning in another country?
Obama has shown bad judgment over and over again. This one is a really bad one.
He looks arrogant and doesn't seem to understand the concept of a country's borders.
I know he wants to look presidential, but this is really too much.
mimi |
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07.12.08 - 6:54 am | #
Yeah -- the airways are just dreamy these days!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 6:54 am | #
"we need more deregulation"-cuntservatives
jr |
07.12.08 - 6:54 am | #
Hecate, are you up early today?
Raining whole shelters of cats and dogs outside, here in the South Side of Chicago...
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 6:55 am | #
Being tough on Iran is going to be the last stupid trick the WH pulls, last for us all if they do it.
If attacked by the west, Iran will immediately move to block the Straits of Hormuz any way it can. The ensuing disaster and conflict will make Iraq look like strawberries and sunshine.
megisi |
07.12.08 - 6:55 am | #
mimi, you can go to the Brandenburg Gate and talk any time you want to -- It's right on the street and everything.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 6:55 am | #
Those rebels captured in Colombia will be extradited to the US. Because, apparently, Colombia doesn't have a court system of its own.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 6:55 am | #
Just stopped storming here. Very black over the lake.
Ralphie |
07.12.08 - 6:56 am | #
Everything is free now.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 6:56 am | #
John McCain campaigned in your beloved Canada, Colombia, and Mexico.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 6:56 am | #
The ensuing disaster and conflict will make Iraq look like strawberries and sunshine.
megisi
Which is just like Philadelphia!
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 6:56 am | #
Obama in Virginia In the packed gymnasium at Robinson Secondary School, Obama told more than 2,000 supporters that as president he would work to expand paid family and medical leave, child-care services and preschool programs. These initiatives could be paid for in large part by ending the Iraq war, he said. http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 6:57 am | #
Mimi, the Brandenburg Gate is a wonderful place to make a speech, and a lovely hearkening back to JFK.
Is there any doubt at all that Teddy Kennedy is going to use the formula "the torch has been passed to a new generation" when he gives the nominating speech for Barack?
Politics done well is compelling theatre. Nothing wrong with a terrific stage.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 6:57 am | #
If attacked by the west, Iran will immediately move to block the Straits of Hormuz any way it can.
How wide and deep is the shipping channel there?
Doug |
07.12.08 - 6:57 am | #
I hope Teddy's health holds so he can give a Convention Speech.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 6:58 am | #
If attacked by the west, Iran will immediately destroy the Green Zone, and everybody in it.
Which is the goal.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 6:59 am | #
Teddy got a standing ovation for coming to the Senate to vote on Medicare, Harry Reid credited that with getting 8 winger votes, a veto proofing.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:00 am | #
Teddy will give the speech even if he has to tape it, even if, God forbid, it is delivered posthumously.
This I am willing to wager a decent sum on.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:00 am | #
Five seconds worth of Google shows others have campaigned overseas...could probably find more examples, but I'm too lazy to look things up before posting.
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 7:00 am | #
Which is the goal.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 6:59 am | #
no. it will be as much a surprise to them as their failure to bring iraq to heel
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 7:01 am | #
Hecate, are you up early today?
Raining whole shelters of cats and dogs outside, here in the South Side of Chicago...
A little bit. We could use a little of that rain.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:01 am | #
Iran will go to war with the Arab oil States, and destroy as much oil as possible, I fear.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:02 am | #
Well, we'll have to disagree, rootless-e. I see the attack as calculated to cause as much mayhem as possible, and an Irani counter-attacking killing thousands of Americans will pretty much guarantee an escalation of middle-eastern wars, which is what W wants.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:02 am | #
I'm with rootless-e on this one. If Iraq goes completely pear-shaped (if the Green Zone were to be destroyed, with attendant large loss of US life), it would probably lead to one of two very bad things: precipitate withdrawal, or tactical nukes.
We don't have any more soldiers. Bush broke the Army as badly as the economy.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:03 am | #
The Monsoonal rain in AZ and NM has been remarkable!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:03 am | #
the Brandenburg Gate is a lovely backdrop for a speech.
too bad it's in a different country than the one Obama is hoping to govern in.
the Germans - no, I'm minimizing here - anyone outside of the USA is really sniggering over this one.
talk about lack of emotional intelligence and not knowing about "boundaries"
mimi |
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07.12.08 - 7:03 am | #
Are there no Democratic leaders in Congress that stand for idealized American values with solutions to the country's problems?
I'm at a point where I'm ready to jettison even the few names I've associated with the "good fight".
Biden and his bankruptcy sellout. Obama and FISA. Now Barney Frank and the entire House Financial Service Committee.
Barney Frank, the committee chairman and stalwart of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party, opened the session with praise for Bernanke and Paulson, saying “I congratulate the officials of this administration for doing such a good job.” Other members were no less servile in their praise. Republican Judy Biggert of Illinois praised Bernanke’s “steady leadership” in her opening statement. Such phrases were repeated by most of the committee members.
Frank... “We don’t want to do anything that would interfere with our wonderful financial system,” he declared.
There is nothing anomalous or surprising in the abject prostration of the committee before Wall Street. As the web site of the Center for Responsive Politics (opensecrets.org) documents, in the 2008 election cycle, members of the House Financial Service Committee—which is supposed to oversee and monitor Wall Street—received over $18 million from the financial services/insurance/real estate sector, a sum three times greater than the committee received from any other sector.
Frank himself raised over $1.2 million this year, almost half of which came from finance and related industries. The top five industries that contributed to his campaign were securities and investment, real estate, law firms, insurance and commercial banking.
Gimlet |
07.12.08 - 7:04 am | #
rootless-e it looks good. No doubt there will be fortunes spent to keep him in office, but Cornyn losing would be beyooootiful.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:05 am | #
rootless-e it looks good. No doubt there will be fortunes spent to keep him in office, but Cornyn losing would be beyooootiful.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:05 am | #
mimi, you don't speak for anyone but yourself, you presumptuous moron.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:05 am | #
mimi, I'm half blind... is that a picture of you?
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:05 am | #
the more obama commits the iraq war money, the more difficult it will be for his administration to renege on getting out.
obama's going to be treated like a rock star in europe
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 7:05 am | #
Cornyn losing would be beyooootiful.
Oh, that would make me v happy. He's such an idiot
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:06 am | #
mimi will sic Interpol on Obama.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:06 am | #
Hormuz is incredibly narrow at its neck, only about 22 miles across.
megisi |
07.12.08 - 7:07 am | #
OIl Tankers are huge and very slow to manouver.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:08 am | #
ruh-roh... NYT:
Federal regulators seized IndyMac Bancorp on Friday evening, marking one of the largest bank failures in American history.
The bank, once part of the Countrywide Financial Corporation, is the first major bank to shut its doors since the mortgage crisis erupted more than a year ago. (IndyMac is not related to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the big mortgage finance companies that alarmed the stock market this week.)
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:08 am | #
the Germans - no, I'm minimizing here - anyone outside of the USA is really sniggering over this one.
I'm 56 years old. I lived in Europe for five years in the 70's, and my father's family, with whom I am in touch, is French. My oldest friend did something no one else I know did: gave up his US citizenship and became British (he lives in London, was here with his wife from Oz, two weeks ago, and we should see 'em in early August on their side of the pond.)
Every. Single. European. I. Know. is thrilled by the prospect of an Obama presidency. That is not a small number of people.
I think there will be a tumultuous welcome for him in Berlin, which to me is the most cosmopolitan city in Europe.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:08 am | #
My German friends are very excited about Obama coming.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:09 am | #
Of course, I suppose campaigning in Iraq is not considered "overseas."
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 7:10 am | #
when i was in germany earlier this summer, shopkeepers asked me who i was going to vote for and came out behind the counter to shake my hand when i said obama.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 7:11 am | #
actually, come to think of it, I do have more right to deliver a speech in the Brandenburg Gate than Obama - I'm German.
mimi |
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07.12.08 - 7:11 am | #
I lived in Berlin among Berliners. They are a very sophisticated, life-loving people.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:11 am | #
i'm channeling tom friedman now.
gotta be a taxi driver story in there somewhere.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 7:11 am | #
The difference, Mimi, is that you're not running for the most powerful job in the world.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:12 am | #
Iraq could publish its war plans tomorrow and it wouldn't help the West at all. Hormuz will be closed immediately and nearly destroyed. The narrow neck curves as it passes Oman and the UAE and the oil tankers coming out of the gulf are forced into a narrow lane closer to Iran's shore. It is bthe least atregically defensible body of water in the world. I learned thos many years ago in my Middle East classes and nothing has or could change.
megisi |
07.12.08 - 7:12 am | #
And she has nothing good to say about anyone but herself.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:12 am | #
I know, plantsman, and I'm envious. My daughter, fluent in German and just about in Russian, has lived there twice for a summer.
Whatta place.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:12 am | #
Will Cornyn's re-election campaign turn turtle?
animus |
07.12.08 - 7:12 am | #
I think there will be a tumultuous welcome for him in Berlin,
I'm inclined to agree and it's going to make McCain's trip to Columbia look even more pathetic. I think Europe will treat him like a combination of JFK/Bill Clinton/Rock Star and there's nowhere McCain can go to get similar event. McCain should just concede now.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:13 am | #
Hilarity from Brad DeLong: " I FIND THAT I AM ON WITH GROVER-FRACKING-NORQUIST!!! WHO HAS THREE POINTS HE WANTS TO MAKE:
* Barack Obama wants to take your money by raising your taxes and pay it to the Communist Chinese."
Will Cornyn's re-election campaign turn turtle?
animus
It might go post-al.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:13 am | #
megisi | 07.12.08 - 7:12 am | #
you expect dick cheney to understand that?
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 7:13 am | #
Every. Single. European. I. Know. is thrilled by the prospect of an Obama presidency. That is not a small number of people.
In my case it's a relatively small number and although you're correct that they are all thrilled by the prospect of an Obama presidency, they all assume that McCain will be elected because they have no confidence whatever in America's ability to do the right thing anymore.
SteveLG |
07.12.08 - 7:14 am | #
Of course, I suppose campaigning in Iraq is not considered "overseas."
Nor Columbia, apparently.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:14 am | #
you expect dick cheney to understand that?
His counter-offensive will be to target Iranian babies, snarl a mighty snarl and fire up the barbie.
megisi |
07.12.08 - 7:14 am | #
I don't think Obama can't visit - just not hold speeches in front of official landmarks as though he is a representative of the US people. Even a state governor wouldn't do a thing like that, and he's not even that.
Again, the Americans don't "get it"
It reminds me of a passage out of Zakaria's book - how Americans are deaf to the emotions of other people. They only see the world the way they want it to be.
mimi |
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07.12.08 - 7:15 am | #
they all assume that McCain will be elected because they have no confidence whatever in America's ability to do the right thing anymore.
SteveLG
And we have given them little reason to believe in us.
Lemme just point out for the skeptics that Bush was not elected in 2000. Even in 2004 there are doubts, and the embers of 9/11 were not yet cool.
The people of this country are doing all right. It's the power structure that has f*'d up nearly beyond all repair.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:16 am | #
Darth's yearly defib is today.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:16 am | #
I'm a superdupermodel
Willendorf Venus |
07.12.08 - 7:16 am | #
Dear god, what is that thing commenting here this morning and who let it the fuck in the door?
megisi |
07.12.08 - 7:17 am | #
you expect dick cheney to understand that?
Or care, if he did?
montag |
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07.12.08 - 7:18 am | #
It sneaks in when Atrios is not around to troll.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:18 am | #
I'm Germane.
My Confirmation name was Germaine
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:18 am | #
I've always thought that about you, Ruth.
megisi |
07.12.08 - 7:18 am | #
fox news: tony snow is dead
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 7:18 am | #
Mimi:
1. He is a representative of the US. He is an elected senator, and the elected Democratic nominee for president.
2. How many concerts have e.g. Louis Armstrong and other American cultural representatives given at the Brandenburg Gate, or the Eiffel Tower, or Hyde Park, or Tivoli Gardens, and so on?
You are completely wrong about this, and that will become evident when Obama gives a speech for the ages at the Gate.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:18 am | #
"Fascism,
You really think it will be this obvious?"
Doug
That image is a keeper. Thanks!
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 7:19 am | #
Oh, sad about Tony Snow despite all. His family too young for that.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:19 am | #
Was it worth it, Tony?
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:19 am | #
I'm sorry for Snow's family, but if we get another week of morning like we did with Russert, I will take a hostage
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:20 am | #
Noriega has been running a rather slow campaign so far - but now that he has some money, i think things will change.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 7:20 am | #
Terrible news about Tony Snow.
Yes, he represented the evil Bushes. No one should have cancer. No one.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:20 am | #
If the Germans didn't want Obama to speak, they could say no. I'm sure he needs permits and such.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:20 am | #
My goodness, that thing just raged through his body ... no one deserves that fate. I hope his family used the time to prepare wisely and that they'll be OK.
megisi |
07.12.08 - 7:20 am | #
megisi, Hecate, just couldn't resist.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:21 am | #
Nice boobies, woot.
I hope we're going to get an iconic Obama image to go with the one of the bird on Kerry's motorcycle.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:21 am | #
My sis, who lives in DC, said Timmeh was genuinely nice to large numbers of people. I don't know about Snow.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:21 am | #
I'm sure you liberals are exaggerating this.
Phil Gramm |
07.12.08 - 7:22 am | #
Hecate, did you choose that Confirmation name after the well known Oz feminist G. Greer?
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:22 am | #
If the Germans didn't want Obama to speak, they could say no. I'm sure he needs permits and such.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 7:20 am | #
While Mr. Obama spent his Fourth of July holiday in Montana, a member of his campaign’s advance team was in Berlin for several days for meetings with politicians, including Mayor Klaus Wowereit, who Tuesday expressed his support for Mr. Obama’s speaking at the gate, if he chose to do so. The city government has the final say in the matter. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/1...ml?
ref=politics
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 7:22 am | #
mourning.
I do so know how to spell.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:22 am | #
The apotheosis next time is much to be dreaded indeed Hecate.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:23 am | #
mimi will be horrified at Berlin's decision.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:23 am | #
I can't find it in me to say anything particularly generous about Tony Snow, so I think I'll get another cup of coffee and get ready for work.
SteveLG |
07.12.08 - 7:23 am | #
Should we send Noriega some turkee?
Ruth, other Texicans wanna weigh in here?
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:24 am | #
Off to Kalamazoo ... have a fine day, atriotganders
megisi |
07.12.08 - 7:24 am | #
DavidD, indeed, Noriega is a strong candidate. So is Dr. Glenn Melancon, running for 4th Cong. Dist, TX, against the troglodytiest of all, Ralph Hall.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:25 am | #
I know he wants to look presidential, but this is really too much.
mimi | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 6:54 am | #
Your hatred of freedom is exposing itself, along with your racism. go back under your rock.
ronjazz |
07.12.08 - 7:25 am | #
I can't find it in me to say anything particularly generous about Tony Snow, so I think I'll get another cup of coffee and get ready for work.
His hair was nearly always perfect....
montag |
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07.12.08 - 7:25 am | #
Waitasec... is Avedon here? Doesn't she live Over There?
What does she see re: Obama?
(a large furry beast is rubbing her fur against my ankles, suggesting that if I don't respond to licks and rubs, the teeth are coming... She wants breakfast, now.)
Ouch!
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:27 am | #
Double ow! Gotta run!
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:27 am | #
Avedon lives in the UK; which, as mimi has assured us, is not Europe.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:28 am | #
obama can write off the neo-nazi engineering vote in germany though.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 7:28 am | #
Hecate, did you choose that Confirmation name after the well known Oz feminist G. Greer?
Heh. Well there is a St. Germaine, a poor shepherdess who died young.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:28 am | #
It's sad that Oz has surpassed the US as fattest nation.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:30 am | #
OK, I'd better get going on these chores. Have a lovely Saturday, you Moonbats.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.12.08 - 7:31 am | #
Senator Barack Obama has been accused of showing arrogance and inexperience in foreign affairs over his bid to speak at Berlin's historic Brandenburg Gate.
American officials said the row set off by his choice of the location was undermining his efforts to portray himself as an astute decision maker despite his thin foreign policy track record.
They said it has also demonstrated the type of insensitivity to US allies that his campaign says has been a hallmark of the George W Bush administration.
Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel has clearly expressed her displeasure with the idea, saying the monument where Ronald Reagan famously exhorted the Soviet Union to "tear down" the Berlin wall should not be used for "electioneering" by the Democratic Party's nominee.
Being "tough on crime" creates more hardended criminals, so we need to coddle them so they give up their criminal ways??? We already coddle them too much!
I could not have scripted a better post to show exactly why liberalism fails.
Texaschilibean |
07.12.08 - 7:33 am | #
Nor crafted a better Presidency to show how conservatism fails.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:34 am | #
Was it worth it, Tony?
plantsman
Well...if Fox News has decent death benefits for the family, I suppose so...I don't usually begrudge a man taking care of business...just when he drags the rest of us down as he does it.
"He said he had taken a major pay cut to become press secretary and that in light of his cancer he needed to earn more than his $168,000 salary to provide for his family."
All the show grief and laudatory comments that will ensue from his death will gloss over just how expensive illness and death is in this country.
There are plenty of folks trying to get by with less than a sixth of that salary and are completely wiped out by health emergencies. If only they could all join Fox News for a few months.
In the U.S. these days, justice is for speeches, not people.
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 7:34 am | #
IndyMac collapse is expected to cost the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. between $4 billion and $8 billion, potentially wiping out more than 10% of the FDIC's $53 billion deposit-insurance fund. http://online.wsj.com/article/
SB...p_us_whats_news
10%, that's a big hit on the FDIC!
Doug |
07.12.08 - 7:34 am | #
I could not have scripted a better post to show exactly why liberalism fails.
Texaschilibean | 07.12.08 - 7:33 am | #
Conservatism has failed, and the whole world sees it. Your lies don't help your country.
ronjazz |
07.12.08 - 7:36 am | #
It'd be nice if people finally started to see through this scam.
some do reject the scam. But then again conservatism is a personality defect stemming from ignorance, insecurity, and fear. Get rid of that and no more conservatism fomenting suffering through humanity.
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furgeddabouddit |
07.12.08 - 7:36 am | #
he should give a speech at the antarctic shelf that is about to break off
moi |
07.12.08 - 7:36 am | #
just bearly
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:38 am | #
Some unnmed republican shill complained about Obama's speech, and mimi the moron is all over it.
She's a dunce, and a liar. To add to her racism and antiAmericanism.
ronjazz |
07.12.08 - 7:38 am | #
(Abby the Maine Coon is munching on Science Diet and not my toes...)
The Daily Torygraph is a Conservative paper of long standing, and Angela Merkel belongs to Georgie after that memorable back rub...
Let's see how the citizens of Berlin, and indeed of Europe, react, shall we?
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:38 am | #
I could not have scripted a better post to show exactly why liberalism fails.
Texaschilibean | 07.12.08 - 7:33 am | #
bragging about his own incompetence
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 7:40 am | #
Canada had the highest incarceration rate for children in the western world, until it passed the Youth Criminal Justice Act in 2003, which reformed the entire system, concentrating on intervention and counselling and such. Now, a reasonably low rate of children are jailed, and the youth crime rate has gone down.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:42 am | #
Who else from Texas does that remind you of?
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:42 am | #
Bush is goin fuckin swell
ah smart sry
ccokz |
07.12.08 - 7:43 am | #
Who else from Texas does that remind you of?
plantsman
Bragging about their own incompetence... Texas...
Wait, it'll come to me shortly, perhaps as the Lord appeared to Moses, in a burning shrub...
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:44 am | #
Diane posting on the worst admin. ever taking a bite out of some one showing respect to our dead troops, at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:44 am | #
bush is wise like indymac
ccokz |
07.12.08 - 7:44 am | #
When did Texas-chili-fart stop being a ward of the court, to become a product of the juvenile justice system?
Doug |
07.12.08 - 7:45 am | #
I loved Bush lecture-fying Congress 'bout how they better let him drill!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:46 am | #
There was a form on the Cheetos bag.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:47 am | #
I don't know if Cindy Sheehan could win, but here is her web site.
I loved Bush lecture-fying Congress 'bout how they better let him drill!
plantsman
It's The Answer To All Energy Needs, even tho it won't make a particle of difference.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:47 am | #
Please, Deity, let Obama not make the Gerald Ford error and let his criminal predecessor off the hook:
When the indictments from the Hague are presented to US Justice officials in February, asking for the extradition of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al., let Obama not impede justice, and hand these murderers over to the law.
Because if he doesn't, like Ford he's gonna be a one-termer.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:48 am | #
Now, a reasonably low rate of children are jailed, and the youth crime rate has gone down.
Moe Szyslak
Hrmph...where's the fun generational revenge in that?! We need more scapegoats, I tells ya!
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 7:48 am | #
My local daily is slowly starting to get the reality I've been preaching for the last year:
According to a monthly Port Tracker report by the National Retail Federation in the U.S. and American firm Global Insight, which provides economic and financial information, several U.S. ports on both coasts have shown weak performances this year.
Included in the ports surveyed were New York / New Jersey, Hampton Roads, Charleston and Savannah, which are all competing with Halifax for business.
The downturn is being blamed on factors such as high energy costs, a weak American economy brought on by a slumping housing market and a dip in consumer spending.
The U.S. housing market decline has had a significant impact. Imports of furniture and home appliances are down 21 per cent. Clothing shipments are down 6.9 per cent, and footwear imports have shown no growth. Many of these items move through Halifax on their way to American markets.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:48 am | #
The need for shoes will rise shortly.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:49 am | #
Well, back to work. Later, folks...
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 7:52 am | #
What always gets me about conservative policies is the way they make all the problems they purport to solve worse,
I think I first noticed this scam when I first moved to the US from Europe. I've campaigned for Democrats ever since. They weren't always perfect, sometimes I refused to campaign for some of them, but the GOP were and remain a kind of glorfied criminal syndicate.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 7:52 am | #
The deniers will tell you that southern sea ice is greater than ever. There might even be some truth to that, but of course when ice shelfs collapse the ice has gotta go somewhere...
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:53 am | #
Morning, rational people.
Yes, Ruth, I did sleep in a little. Sorry for the confusion.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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07.12.08 - 7:53 am | #
Interesting that the photo is from the European Space Agency. They're paying attention....
montag |
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07.12.08 - 7:54 am | #
's okay, Diane, worried about your computer being down or something. hi.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:55 am | #
Sad news about Tony Snow. Hopefully his young family has been well-provided for.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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07.12.08 - 7:55 am | #
Berlin should not let the ice shelf speak at the Brandenburgischer Tor!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:57 am | #
an all-mimi thread? seriously?
man, she really knows how to push your buttons.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 7:57 am | #
it's what Borderlines do.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 7:57 am | #
BTW, if anyone wants to be included in planning for the NM State Fair, Sept 12 - 14, lemme know and I'll put you on the list.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:57 am | #
The news article I read indicated that where Sen. Obama speaks in Berlin is not Angela Merkel's call, but rather that of the Mayor of Berlin. He has apparently stated that Mr. Obama can speak wherever he pleases.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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07.12.08 - 7:58 am | #
I don't give two shits about Tony Snow or his family. Not at all. People die all the time, and here's another. Big whoopdedoo. Sorry I wasted this much energy typing my nonconcern.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 7:58 am | #
Moe, you wasted energy! noooooooooo
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 7:59 am | #
Snow was actually the most likeable of all the Fox regulars. He liked mocking Brit Hume as a angry, bitter loon. Snow had charm. The other are hate-filled nazis.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 7:59 am | #
Say Hi to Jessie for us when you see him, Tony, you fucking asshole.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:00 am | #
Berlin, when I lived there, was a city-state, like Hamburg. Das Land Berlin, they called it.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:00 am | #
The news article I read indicated that where Sen. Obama speaks in Berlin is not Angela Merkel's call, but rather that of the Mayor of Berlin.
the news article mimi quoted was by alex spillius. he tends to have a "tone"
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 8:00 am | #
I have a ring 'tone', does that count.
And my bell is going off for breakfast.
Ruth |
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07.12.08 - 8:02 am | #
Will we have a week-long wake for Snow, like we did for Russert?
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 8:02 am | #
Moe, I tend to agree with John Donne's approach in "No Man Is An Island":
"Send not to know for whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee."
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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07.12.08 - 8:02 am | #
Avedon leaves out one component. Conservatives blame all problems on liberals, so when their (conservatives') policies make a situation worse, their response is to blame the deterioration on liberals and try to implement even dumber versions of their policies.
It's a perfect feedback loop for conservatives — they implement policies, the policies fail, they blame liberals and implement even dumber policies, the policies fail even worse, they blame liberals even more, etc.
The end result of global warming will be Rush Limbaugh on a Colorado mountain peak surrounded by oceans blaming the entire situation on Al Gore.
Philly Boy |
07.12.08 - 8:03 am | #
If I'm going to get all concerned about dead people's families, maybe I'll start with the thousand of Iraqi families dealing with the imperialistic war Snow was shilling.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 8:04 am | #
Prolly not - but Snow was pretty huge with the cocktail frank circuit. He was a news guy AND WH spokesman.
OTOH, he could be a smarmy weasel, and once he crossed partisan line, he couldn't be as pure as Russert.
I suspect we will hear alot about his patrtiotism and how he was so moved by 9/11 he just had to quit the job he love to help trick America is surrending its rights.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:04 am | #
But, but, Baghdad's pools have reopened after nearly 6 years!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:05 am | #
G.B. Trudeau really has the American media ccaptured perfectly in his current series.
Finny |
07.12.08 - 8:06 am | #
But, but, Baghdad's pools have reopened after nearly 6 years!
plantsman
Do they have Sunni Swim?
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:07 am | #
Berlin should not let the ice shelf speak at the Brandenburgischer Tor!
plantsman
Tear down this jelly donut!
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 8:07 am | #
Wow, this will help the US civilian aviation business.
"Terrorism expert downplays shock bracelet for airline passengers
It was recently reported that the Department of Homeland Security has expressed interest in a "safety bracelet" for air travelers that would include personal information and would not only track the wearer but also be capable of remotely delivering a taser-like shock." http://rawstory.com/news/2008/
Te...t_for_0711.html
Doug |
07.12.08 - 8:09 am | #
Wow, this will help the US civilian aviation business.
"Terrorism expert downplays shock bracelet for airline passengers"
How the fuck do you downplay some shit like this? By saying they could be wearing exploding neck collars instead?
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:11 am | #
It was recently reported that the Department of Homeland Security has expressed interest in a "safety bracelet" for air travelers that would include personal information and would not only track the wearer but also be capable of remotely delivering a taser-like shock." http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ Te...t_for_0711.html
Doug
How 'bout fucking straightjackets and ball gags so we shouldn't annoy the crew members.
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 8:12 am | #
In other news, Amtrak's "random security checks" are expanding nation-wide out of the Northeast Corridor.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:12 am | #
Excellent post Avedon, thanks.
Gary Sugar |
07.12.08 - 8:13 am | #
Good Saturday morning, everybody . . . God, it's sad the we have a prison industry organized to oppose programs that reduce the offender population.
We should probably have treatment facilities to reorient and direct union members to more productive economic opportunities as well.
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Sparkle Plenty |
07.12.08 - 8:14 am | #
Shock-inducing anklets could never, ever be misused or malfunction. It's unpossible!
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 8:14 am | #
How 'bout fucking straightjackets and ball gags so we shouldn't annoy the crew members.
Lime Rickey
I prefer the ring gags because, lets face it, they're gonna fuck you anyway so lets make it easy on ourselves.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:14 am | #
Republicans are only "tough" on crime if it doesn't involve their own. If it is republicans who commit crimes, from hiring prostitutes, all the way to illegally spying on the American people, we are told to shut up, and not question them. We are also told that their wives whether shell shocked by the first offense or hardened to repeat offenses, have forgiven them.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:15 am | #
It was recently reported that the Department of Homeland Security has expressed interest in a "safety bracelet" for air travelers that would include personal information and would not only track the wearer but also be capable of remotely delivering a taser-like shock." http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ Te...t_for_0711.html
Doug
How 'bout fucking straightjackets and ball gags so we shouldn't annoy the crew members.
Lime Rickey
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I think this could be the event where the plastic wrap and duct tape could come in handy. Just shrink wrap all airline passengers and everyone will reach their destination safely. Well, except for the suffocation.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:17 am | #
"We know you have no choice when you fly, so we'd like to thank you before our mandatory anklet test."
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:18 am | #
Republicans are only "tough" on crime if it doesn't involve their own. If it is republicans who commit crimes, from hiring prostitutes, all the way to illegally spying on the American people, we are told to shut up, and not question them. We are also told that their wives whether shell shocked by the first offense or hardened to repeat offenses, have forgiven them.
I've made the comment at work that if more CEOs and their executive staff were given life imprisonment whenever they screw over their companies, we'd have less crime there. Somehow people don't seem to agree there.
And had one wag tell me that the Cindy McStain drug rip-off wasn't that big of a deal 'cause "she didn't actually hurt anyone."
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:18 am | #
This shock bracelet policy should be expanded to all the American people. No doubt, of course we should start with know crime zones, certain ethnicies, and people on welfare.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:18 am | #
It was recently reported that the Department of Homeland Security has expressed interest in a "safety bracelet" for air travelers that would include personal information and would not only track the wearer but also be capable of remotely delivering a taser-like shock."
that would have shut up those autistic kids.
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 8:18 am | #
In other news, Amtrak's "random security checks" are expanding nation-wide out of the Northeast Corridor.
plantsman
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They are having so much fun at it, they are now searching people who aren't even traveling by train. Just going throughout nearby neighborhoods and randomly searching people trying to go about their daily business. But it's all for your safety.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:19 am | #
duct tape the passengers, then demand $35 extra to carry them as luggage.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 8:19 am | #
It was recently reported that the Department of Homeland Security has expressed interest in a "safety bracelet" for air travelers that would include personal information and would not only track the wearer but also be capable of remotely delivering a taser-like shock."
"If we can get them to wear these on the plane, then they won't kick when they find out that they are supposed to wear them the rest of their lives."
Good mourning! What's the latest Kafka-esque outrage?
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Cynicus
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I don't know, but I woke up this morning feeling sort of cock roachy. Maybe it will go away after my coffee.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:20 am | #
This shock bracelet policy should be expanded to all the American people. No doubt, of course we should start with know crime zones, certain ethnicies, and people on welfare.
Culture of TrÜth
if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to fear.
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 8:20 am | #
SO I hear Tony Snow died.
Southern Beale |
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07.12.08 - 8:20 am | #
This shock bracelet policy should be expanded to all the American people. No doubt, of course we should start with know crime zones, certain ethnicies, and people on welfare.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 8:18 am | #
wouldn't it be simpler, cheaper, and more effective just to taser and then shoot the entire population?
it may sound extreme, but after 9/11 we have to take extreme measures to protect the population.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 8:20 am | #
Reminds me of the East German Passport and Ticket Checks (their dining car also sucked).
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:20 am | #
We should probably have treatment facilities to reorient and direct union members to more productive economic opportunities as well.
.
Sparkle Plenty
But...but...where would we then find our opportunities for subject-changing political lizard-brain grandstanding? Gays and Mexicans are not enough!
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 8:20 am | #
This shock bracelet policy should be expanded to all the American people. No doubt, of course we should start with know crime zones, certain ethnicies, and people on welfare
You know, the Ghetto is really coming back, and in a big way! It's not just for black people any more!
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:21 am | #
"I don't want to wear an electric bracelet."
"Support the police!"
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:21 am | #
if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to fear.
dirk gently,melancoholic
Tell that to the Ramsey family.
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 8:21 am | #
duct tape the passengers, then demand $35 extra to carry them as luggage.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin
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Okay, who leaked the new policy for the Airlines?
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:21 am | #
I've made the comment at work that if more CEOs and their executive staff were given life imprisonment whenever they screw over their companies, we'd have less crime there. Somehow people don't seem to agree there.
And had one wag tell me that the Cindy McStain drug rip-off wasn't that big of a deal 'cause "she didn't actually hurt anyone."
Quite often, "tough on crime" is euphamistic for "not our kind, dear".
RIP Tony, can't say I'll miss you.
Thumper Johnson |
07.12.08 - 8:23 am | #
if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to fear.
dirk gently,melancoholic
Tell that to the Ramsey family.
Lime Rickey
Whoa!
Excellent come back, Lime Rickey.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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07.12.08 - 8:23 am | #
This shock bracelet policy should be expanded to all the American people. No doubt, of course we should start with know crime zones, certain ethnicies, and people on welfare.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 8:18 am |
Snarky people will be first.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.12.08 - 8:23 am | #
In other news, Amtrak's "random security checks" are expanding nation-wide out of the Northeast Corridor.
If the Ramseys had been po' folks, they'd be rotting in prison right now. Except for Patsy, who's dead.
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 8:24 am | #
Former White House spokesman Tony Snow dies
Southern Beale
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that's ashame. He didn't have a Lee Atwater conversion at the last minute did he?
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:24 am | #
I don't think I can survive another mourn-fest for a media personality.
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Sparkle Plenty |
07.12.08 - 8:24 am | #
First Jesse Helms, now Tony Snow. Who will be the third conservative d'you think?
I've got a wish list a mile long--
Dr. Michael DeBakey is also dead.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:24 am | #
That's from the Wansee Conference.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:25 am | #
First Jesse Helms, now Tony Snow. Who will be the third conservative d'you think?
Southern Beale
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I don't know. Who's ahead with the bookies?
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:25 am | #
Culture of truth,
its not sunni swim but snow swim.
or the antarktis ice swim Wilkins northwards
ccokz |
07.12.08 - 8:25 am | #
Tell that to the Ramsey family.
Lime Rickey | 07.12.08 - 8:21 am | #
nonsense. they were completely cleared.
eventually.
(do i really need to include a snark tag?)
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 8:25 am | #
he held out his packet of zig-zags
- Pynchon
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 8:25 am | #
If the Ramseys had been po' folks, they'd be rotting in prison right now. Except for Patsy, who's dead.
Word.
They were wealthy enough to hire a battery of lawyers, publicists, media consultants, etc. And they were STILL villified.
Southern Beale |
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07.12.08 - 8:26 am | #
I do a Tony Snow impression.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:26 am | #
Do you know how many bullets you would need???
why, yes
/Colt Industries
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin
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The sale of all those bullets would be excellent for the economy.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:26 am | #
If the Ramseys had been po' folks, they'd be rotting in prison right now.
Accusation + poverty = jail. The US legal system in practice.
What you get when your legal system is a game of who can hire the best gunfighters, excuse me, lawyers.
Then there's Richard Jewell, and "Mr. Z."
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 8:28 am | #
This was from yesterday, but still good:
Today’s Los Angeles Times contrasts McCain’s claims on how he dumped his injured first wife, the one who was faithful to him the whole time he was in Vietnam, for millionaire booze heiress Cindy Hensley, finding the public record to be pretty darn sleazy:
McCain, who is about to become the GOP nominee, has made several statements about how he divorced Carol and married Hensley that conflict with the public record.
In his 2002 memoir, Worth the Fighting For, McCain wrote that he had separated from Carol before he began dating Hensley.
[snip]
An examination of court documents tells a different story. McCain did not sue his wife for divorce until Feb. 19, 1980, and he wrote in his court petition that he and his wife had “cohabited” until Jan. 7 of that year — or for the first nine months of his relationship with Hensley.
Although McCain suggested in his autobiography that months passed between his divorce and remarriage, the divorce was granted April 2, 1980, and he wed Hensley in a private ceremony five weeks later. McCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.
You apply for a wedding license to a millionaire blonde while still married to the mother of your children, and then write a memoir that out-and-out lies about it?
More straight talk from a true maverick.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:29 am | #
"Anti-abortion" is really about punishing "sluts".
These disgisting creeps are really pro-coathanger.
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TelltaleHeart |
07.12.08 - 8:29 am | #
if you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to fear.
dirk gently,melancoholic
Tell that to the Ramsey family.
Lime Rickey
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Or that fellow at the Olympics in Georgia who tried to help after the bomb went off.
Or that fellow the government just paid millions to, that they accused for years of mailing anthrax.
No, if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from this government.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:29 am | #
OK, time for my breakfast and then maybe the first nap of my day.
Enjoy your Saturday morning, bats.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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07.12.08 - 8:29 am | #
He didn't have a Lee Atwater conversion at the last minute did he?
He was just doing the rounds of the press about 2 months ago defending Bush. So I'd say, no.
Given Gooper welfare/ job finding, and the probable number of Republicans in Hell, Snow is probably a HS-16 Winged Son of the Fallen in a torture-design think tank right now.
Then there's Richard Jewell, and "Mr. Z."
Moe Szyslak
and gary condit. probably.
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 8:30 am | #
Stephen Hatfill.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:30 am | #
Then there's Richard Jewell, and "Mr. Z."
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 8:28 am | #
and, in very murky circumstances, hatfill
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 8:30 am | #
They had a lawyer within a few days. Damm lucky they did. The cops were just itching to arrest them but the DA was scared of their law talking guy. Cause of that whole lack of evidence problem.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:30 am | #
McStain: "Why should a certified war hero like myself drag a crippled wife around with him?"
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 8:31 am | #
Stephen Hatfill is Mr. Z. I prefer that reference, actually, as he's innocent.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 8:32 am | #
A few weeks ago I saw a report on tv about a town somewhere that had started a program that has police pulling people over and commending them for good driving, ie; using their blinkers properly, full stops before turning right at a red light, etc. Call me paranoid, but that sounds like a program ripe with potential for abuse.
Thumper Johnson |
07.12.08 - 8:32 am | #
so, a few "innocent" people have to prove it. isn't it worth it in the long run? besides, no one is really innocent. i'm sure all those people you've mentioned have done SOMETHING wrong, or would if given the chance.
judgement is mine, sayeth the lord. so who are we to say they were all "innocent?"
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 8:33 am | #
The government could just save themselves some time and just declare all of us persons of interest so that it would be necessary to put gps shock bracelets on all of us, just to keep us in line.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:33 am | #
Wen Ho Lee!
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:34 am | #
Oh, uh, i just noticed what the purported thread topic was.
If you run government like a government, the prison system would be an integral part of the legal system, and all would be designed to recuce crimes.
But if you run government 'like a business', then you want the business to grow, so that you will make more money. So your prison system would be a crime college.
Just relax and let teh hooks do their work.
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Stupid Sexy Flanders |
07.12.08 - 8:35 am | #
A few weeks ago I saw a report on tv about a town somewhere that had started a program that has police pulling people over and commending them for good driving, ie; using their blinkers properly, full stops before turning right at a red light, etc. Call me paranoid, but that sounds like a program ripe with potential for abuse.
Thumper Johnson
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I sure hope all those good drivers don't have any important appointments to get to. What a load of crap. Just take down my license plate # and mail it to me. Most people I know out driving these days, have some place to be, or they wouldn't be wasting the gas.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:36 am | #
Mike Deaver! Ollie North! Jeff Skilling! Scooter Libby!
oh wait...
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:36 am | #
I'm sure Fox News will be in full mourning. This story will be much more important than whiner-gate or antying McCain said.
Southern Beale |
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07.12.08 - 8:36 am | #
Dana Peroxide has just announced that the Lincoln Memorial will be renamed the Russert-Snow Memorial. Lincoln's head will be lopped off and replaced on alternating weeks with Russert or Snow.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.12.08 - 8:36 am | #
Most people I know out driving these days, have some place to be, or they wouldn't be wasting the gas.
Cops too, one would think.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:37 am | #
Most people I know out driving these days, have some place to be, or they wouldn't be wasting the gas.
Cops too, one would think.
Culture of TrÜth
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I would be pretty pissed off to be paying them for this sort of foolishness.
foolme1ns |
07.12.08 - 8:38 am | #
Off to the market. Later, all.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.12.08 - 8:39 am | #
A few weeks ago I saw a report on tv about a town somewhere that had started a program that has police pulling people over and commending them for good driving, ie; using their blinkers properly, full stops before turning right at a red light, etc. Call me paranoid, but that sounds like a program ripe with potential for abuse.
Sounds to me like a town that was tired of getting in trouble for over-enthusiastic cops pulling people over w/o cause, so they have invented 'to praise the innocent' as a cause.
Pull over anyone you like. If you can hang anything on them, do so. If not, say "Nice job with the side mirrors!" and send them on, and never mind their fear and inconvenience.
You know, the Ghetto is really coming back, and in a big way! It's not just for black people any more!
Supreme Commander Thor
I have heard that "ghetto" is a contraction of the original burghetto, little town, originally in Venice, a walled part of the city that was the Jewish quarter. If I remember the story right, the wall was meant as more a protective for the Jews than as a segregation device (though no doubt it served as both.)
Presumably Wikipedia or another reference will give the accurate story.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.12.08 - 8:40 am | #
Dana Peroxide has just announced that the Lincoln Memorial will be renamed the Russert-Snow Memorial. Lincoln's head will be lopped off and replaced on alternating weeks with Russert or Snow.
Should be one head with two faces. Perfect symbolism.
Janus will be thrilled!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:42 am | #
I would be pretty pissed off to be paying them for this sort of foolishness.
Cop: "I pulled him over to give him his Good Driver Commendation and the driver was acting nervous. I asked him to step out of the car, and that's when I noticed the smell of marijuana."
Thumper Johnson |
07.12.08 - 8:42 am | #
If I'm driving, I don't want to be pulled over by no fucking cops, unless they are busting out of a cake, wearing too-much lipgloss, and singing 'YMCA'.
Even then, they better be doing it on a 'red'.
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TelltaleHeart |
07.12.08 - 8:43 am | #
i wonder what fox news is covering at this very instant?
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 8:43 am | #
Black comics telling blue jokes? Oh noes!!!!!1
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:45 am | #
Comedian Bernie Mac makes off-color joke at Obama event
How does a black comedian make an off-color joke?
Did he call someone an asshole and then Obama went, "Oh, yeah, big time"? If not, call me when something important happens.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:46 am | #
U.S. military deaths in Iraq: 4,118.
killing us softly with his love...
mestizO |
07.12.08 - 8:47 am | #
i wonder what fox is covering now? let's see ....
on the phone - ghw bush
interviewer asks mr bush "how can americans me more like [tony snow]?"
better. better bring a bucket.
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 8:48 am | #
You didn't feel a disturbance in the force?
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:49 am | #
Mimi, the Brandenburg Gate is a wonderful place to make a speech, and a lovely hearkening back to JFK.
I made a speech at the Brandenburg Gate in the first week of November, 2002. I complained about how long it was taking to get a U.S. Embassy built there and then I told a Scnurrbart joke that nobody got. I didn't have a microphone and the weather was cold and windy so nobody paid any attention to me. But it was a great place to make a speech.
Miss H., Great Expectorator |
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07.12.08 - 8:49 am | #
I like the AP's choice of words: cheerfully sparred.
WASHINGTON - Tony Snow, a conservative writer and commentator who cheerfully sparred with reporters in the White House briefing room during a stint as President Bush's press secretary, died Saturday of colon cancer.
The day of Tony Snow's hiring at the White House was electric. To call him a "rock star" was an understatement. He brought substance to every meeting he was in and every subject he covered. He was unwaveringly conservative at the principals table, but like all good servants of the government and the president, when a decision was made, he fell in line and became an advocate for the president, not for Tony Snow. It isn't hard to conclude that he was one of the best presidential press secretaries of all time, if not the best.
Why is everybody called a "rock star" now? That term should be reserved for those who sing or play rock music, and who draw big crowds.
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 8:51 am | #
"Dick, kin we give KARL cancer?
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:51 am | #
fox: thank you for talking with us, president bush, and we're sorry for your loss.
[I wonder if Dennis Miller is waits by the phone for McCain to call.]
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 8:53 am | #
Buried waaaay down in the story:
Critics suggested that Snow was turning the traditionally informational daily briefing into a personality-driven media event short on facts and long on confrontation. He was the first press secretary, by his own accounting, to travel the country raising money for Republican candidates.
"Me More Like Tony Snow!"
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 8:55 am | #
LIfe Imitating Art.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:55 am | #
I like the AP's choice of words: cheerfully sparred.
Yup. Sparring cheerfully with reporters who knew that he was blatantly lying to them.
Funny. NPR chose to play--without comment, I might add--a fragment of the press conference where Tony lies about Valerie Plame's NOC status and that it was so awful that some dedicated public servant could go to jail without committing a crime....
montag |
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07.12.08 - 8:55 am | #
I don't find Bernie Mac funny. He seems mostly pissed off to me.
Thumper Johnson |
07.12.08 - 8:56 am | #
Why is everybody called a "rock star" now? That term should be reserved for those who sing or play rock music, and who draw big crowds.
Lime Rickey
[Warning...Hicks' doing the mic-sucking bit...could wake up the household!]
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 8:56 am | #
Coincidence?
Great white shark reported at 'Jaws" filming site
Turned out to be a hoax.
"He made me do it!"
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.12.08 - 8:57 am | #
I'd prefer they built Cape Wind , myself.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 8:58 am | #
Critics suggested that Snow was turning the traditionally informational daily briefing into a personality-driven media event short on facts and long on confrontation. He was the first press secretary, by his own accounting, to travel the country raising money for Republican candidates.
One reading of this could be "Tony Snow was the first White House press secretary to have the same format as the current MSM - to replace informational briefings with personality-driven fakes that avoid facts but make good TV. And to shill money for his masters."
i wonder which critical story of national import fox is covering NOW?
going to go get breakfast. i wonder what they'll be covering when i get back?
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 9:01 am | #
Why is everybody called a "rock star" now? That term should be reserved for those who sing or play rock music, and who draw big crowds.
Started with Reagan, I think. Reagan turned politics into show business. Ever notice the similarity between Bush's kissy-face routines with every woman that shows up and the sort of phony public fondness that was commonplace in Hollywood at one time?
montag |
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07.12.08 - 9:01 am | #
Tony Snow probably had quality healthcare, the best that money could buy.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 9:01 am | #
Tony Snow was a proud martyr in the war against quality heathcare.
Started with Reagan, I think. Reagan turned politics into show business. Ever notice the similarity between Bush's kissy-face routines with every woman that shows up and the sort of phony public fondness that was commonplace in Hollywood at one time?
montag
Must have had SOME appeal - he's still got groupies who would hump his coffin if they could.
Cynicus
I tried to think of gag with the phrase "Old Glory Holes," but I'm just not up to it.
[Would make a good band name, though.]
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 9:08 am | #
Fucker is a cockroach. He'll survive a nuclear holocaust.
Umm, with a blast-proof "secret location," and the personality and ability to start that nuclear holocaust, you're probably right....
montag |
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07.12.08 - 9:08 am | #
Dumbya has Bar's lips.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 9:08 am | #
Walter Reed.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 9:09 am | #
Hospital? What sort of hospital specializes in vampire care?
Bat Sinai.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.12.08 - 9:09 am | #
I was going to go for the indelible graphic description from Bill Hicks of Rush Limbaugh.
[Caution...you may need brain bleach]
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 9:12 am | #
Morning, all.
Desperate blogwhore:
Hey kids, over at Box Office, I sing the praises of a Hong Kong martial arts movie that looks like "The Matrix" remade by a community theater troupe on acid, plus there's a list of the funniest action movies ever. http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...ania-spec-
9.php
C'mon -- like it would hurt you to leave a comment over there already?
steve hüssein simels® |
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07.12.08 - 9:13 am | #
But what about Hellboy II ?
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 9:13 am | #
Fucker is a cockroach. He'll survive a nuclear holocaust.
That's the idea.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.12.08 - 9:14 am | #
Guess who, today:
steve hüssein simels® |
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07.12.08 - 9:15 am | #
steve hüssein simels® | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 9:13 am | #
I posted some song suggestions over on powerpop. So there!
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.12.08 - 9:15 am | #
But what about Hellboy II ?
plantsman
Have you reviewed that blockbuster "Expelled" yet?
"Like so much gas..."
Gimlet |
07.12.08 - 9:16 am | #
I was going to go for the indelible graphic description from Bill Hicks of Rush Limbaugh.
Youtube commenters are the most ignorant fucks on the internets.
Calling you not a Neo-con is a compliment. A real conservative is respectable, a neo-con is not. They're just Libs who took over the Republican Party.
Thumper Johnson |
07.12.08 - 9:17 am | #
In case you're tempted to feel sorry for him, it's worth noting that he was the lying scumbag who pushed the story that the Clintons had trashed the Whitehouse on their way out in 92. Remember the missing "w"'s on the keyboards?
That was Snow's contribution to our culture....
steve hüssein simels® |
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07.12.08 - 9:17 am | #
Some are trying to show respect for the dead -- others......
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 9:19 am | #
Tony Snow was a proud martyr
i wonder if the stress of lying and dissembling for all those months contributed to a relapse.
nona |
07.12.08 - 9:19 am | #
Morning, kids.
simels, I am obsessed with Rooney. And I blame you. Did you know he's Talia Shire's son?
Molly Ivors |
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07.12.08 - 9:20 am | #
it's worth noting that he was the lying scumbag who pushed the story that the Clintons had trashed the Whitehouse on their way out in 92. Remember the missing "w"'s on the keyboards?
Sounds as though it would make a great tribute to him. "He's gone in search of those missing "W"s the Clinton administration took from the WH".
Gimlet |
07.12.08 - 9:20 am | #
I think "Lithium" is one of my favorite Nirvana songs.
that was completely OT, but I'm just looking at my second cup of coffee.
The Bushies have just ruint loyalty.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 9:25 am | #
Most of their stuff is this kind of ironic take on dinosaur rock--they kind of remind me of Redd Kross that way. But this is pure pop.
I generally try to give Listomania a day or so at the top of the page, but I'll have to post on them soon, I know.
Molly Ivors |
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07.12.08 - 9:26 am | #
W called Tony Blow a dedicated public servant. How did he serve? two years. Feh.
Morning again peeps.
qlª |
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07.12.08 - 9:26 am | #
I think "Lithium" is one of my favorite Nirvana songs.
watertiger | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 9:20 am | #
I like "Come As You Are"
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.12.08 - 9:29 am | #
I like Foo Fighters
billy b |
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07.12.08 - 9:31 am | #
"Ruusert
Helms
Snow
I can't think of one thing any of them did to help humanity."
With conservatives, you need to aim low. It's like the Hypocratic oath, but in reverse: Hopefully, once they are dead, they do no more harm.
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TelltaleHeart |
07.12.08 - 9:58 am | #
This is how I look at conservative "policies":
Conservatives tell us if we jump off the Chrysler Building and flap our arms, we'll be able to fly.
Once the pavement is littered with bodies, they look thoughtful and declare "The Chrysler Building is not tall enough. You need to jump off the Sears Tower. Then you'll be able to fly."
Roddy McCorley |
07.12.08 - 12:19 pm | #
The loop can also be viewed as a natural result of conservatism. Progressives take measures which fix a problem. Since these measures often reduce the advantages of the powerful, they propagandize to convince people to rescind the progressive measures (e.g. regulation of financial industries). Even if the back-step is only temporary, the reactionaries benefit monetarily, so they can attack again on the next cycle.
skeptonomist |
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