I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
hey hey!
lucky me!
trying for 3 in a row
What's the parade about?
I was rooting for el to make it home, but I guess it wasn't to be.
Um, okay.
I can see deep truths the rest of you can't.
HOMER!
The fireworks are getting rained on too.
I was rooting for el to make it home, but I guess it wasn't to be.
R. McGeddon
sorry el
We're having a parade because you moved, silly!
A2DH, sorry about your dad.
Id send you a BOE lvl 70 epic if i could.
The juxtaposition of Dick Cheney and Snorg models is something the most deranged surrealist never would have thought of.
Yeah, you said that; I remain unconvinced.
Haven't been watching T.V. Is it still all Russert all the time?
Flag Day?
It's the Snorg Parade, silly!
HOMER!
el
MARGE!
MSNBC is, everywhere else has moved on.
REpost:
Even though I have free HBO, I only have basic cable. This has been no problem since I decided not to watch the corporate media. Throughout this long memorial to Tim, I realize how out of touch I am with what the general voting public is seeing (or being smothered by.) It has made me aware that I should rethink my choice before the election, and yet I know I will be immediately aggravated by the media.
camelot-Obama/Maddow '08 | 06.14.08 - 7:53 pm | #
Brought up from the previous wankerific thread:
The euphemism (and passive voice) of "passed away" is interesting.
I don't mind using it with my dad. It seems appropriate.
But with my brother, who's been gone 20 years, a victim of the AIDS epidemic, it doesn't seem to be the right way to describe it. It needs more immediacy.
Death after a long life is the way of things.
Death only as you're getting started is a whole 'nother ball of wax.
I don't want to start any blasphamous rumours but I think that God's got a sick sense of humor and when I die I expect to find him laughing.
I just e-mailed this to an African-American friend:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/...rvatives.Obama/
He just e-mailed me back and said "Who the fuck cares what THEY think?"
I was a member of a list (Aware Sleep Paralysis) for a couple of years and it was amazing how similar the experiences were
diane, i'm curious. were there people on the list whose sleep paralysis was triggered by a particular tragedy? i'd experienced it once or twice in my life when i was younger, usually from a recurring childhood nightmare, but it wasn't common. now it happens fairly often, and almost always when dreaming about my daughter.
For me, "passed" with the people I loved who are gone, works -- I'll not succumb to anyone elses preferences about it.
plantsman has mail
I hate parades. I deliberately avoided taking up a musical instrument that would involve marching band.
This wouldn't be an empty "victory" parade to have so people like McCain can feel good about themselves but we can bring the troops home, would it?
I know, that's hoping for too much.
Haven't been watching T.V. Is it still all Russert all the time?
Lumpenprolitariot
MSNBC is still doing the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Death after a long life is the way of things.
Death only as you're getting started is a whole 'nother ball of wax.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Garrison Keillor said the death of an old man is not a tragedy. Gender-exclusive language aside, I find that particularly beautiful.
Flag Day is also my half-birthday.
Just sayin'
Apprentice to Darth, couldn't agree with you more.
Iowa washing away, Supreme Court decision in Boumedienne v Bush, Afghanistan headed south with more coalition forces dying there than in Iraq, a somewhat significant presidential election taking shape...
...so it's not like there's nothing really newsworthy they could be talking about.
As I said downstairs: I think they honestly believe that all over America people got up this morning and turned on their TVs eager to hear the latest "developments" in the ongoing saga of the death of Tim Russert.
It's life and death in the village... those folks in Iowa, the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, the detainees in Gitmo and the floating prisons, the entire presidential election... they're only interested in them insofar as they provide a useful foil for getting TV facetime and doing a little posturing. When something really important comes up in their little kingdom, they drop this other stuff like it was shit.
I deliberately avoided taking up a musical instrument that would involve marching band.
Sallyh, Grandmere
not much of a choice for me
but i was game
Thank you, Erin; I'll answer in due time -- this has not been a happy period for me, and I trust warm weather will please me more.
MSNBC is still doing the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I wonder if they''l be giving him the helicopter follows the hearse treatment on the day of his funeral.
I deliberately avoided taking up a musical instrument that would involve marching band.
Sallyh, Grandmere
i wasn't allowed near musical instruments. not after the first one.
MSNBC is still doing the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Half-hearted pikers. They should also rend their garments and sprinkle ashes and dust on their heads.
no rush plantsman
How come we haven't seen the tape of Russert going tits up? What are they hiding?
I hate parades. I deliberately avoided taking up a musical instrument that would involve marching band.
Sallyh, Grandmere PoissonniereM
I'd've gladly joined marching band if I could find someone to push the piano across the field.
I'll not succumb to anyone elses preferences about it.
It's an affront to English grammar, as well as implying religious things that not everyone agrees with. I'll never accept its usage.
Turn. It. Off.
Jeebus.
who died?
I think they honestly believe that all over America people got up this morning and turned on their TVs eager to hear the latest "developments" in the ongoing saga of the death of Tim Russert.
As I've said, I feel for his loved ones but he was one of the biggest enablers of the Bush Regime.
Had he and others done their jobs correctly in 2000, we would not have had Bush in the White House with his ego war and his making us hated worldwide.
I wonder if they''l be giving him the helicopter follows the hearse treatment on the day of his funeral.
Richard
Oh, yes... they know that America, and all of Timmeh's devoted fans, expects it of them.
How come we haven't seen the tape of Russert going tits up?
Yuck. Nice tastelessness.
Sallyh, I hate parades too. I think I always have, just didn't admit it until I was in my teens. Parades are boring.
geor3ge, part of it was that I fell in love with the violin immediately. Our music teacher said, it's very difficult to play; are you sure? I said yes, and have never regretted it. To me, it's the instrument that sounds the closest to the human voice.
I've been practicing a little this week. Once again, makes the arms, shoulders and neck hurt like hell.
Oh, and I neglected to note this earlier:
Today is my parents' 56th wedding anniversary.
Well, the "official" one with the ceremony and the cake and all that stuff.
Back when trilobites ruled the Earth, in the 50's, one did not just "move in" with the future Mrs. Whoever. They felt it was silly to maintain two apartments and all the associated expenses.
So my parents went to Vegas (!) and got married on Christmas Eve, 1951. This was followed up by the traditional June wedding six months later.
My mother's parents never knew about the Vegas adventure. What happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas!
How come we haven't seen the tape of Russert going tits up? What are they hiding?
leibniz♘☮
The folks at YouTube are not doing their jobs.
Even though I have free HBO, I only have basic cable. This has been no problem since I decided not to watch the corporate media. Throughout this long memorial to Tim, I realize how out of touch I am with what the general voting public is seeing (or being smothered by.) It has made me aware that I should rethink my choice before the election, and yet I know I will be immediately aggravated by the media.
camelot-Obama/Maddow '08 | 06.14.08 - 7:53 pm |
If you have excess disposable income from the stimulus package just go shopping and buy some new shoes. You can watch it on the web.
Deep Truth:
Journalism schools are not alone in their attempts to dignify a trade by tracking onto it the idea of professionalism and laying over it a body of dubious theory. After all, McDonald's Hamburger U. now trains Beverage Technicians. But the journalist's role is precisely to cut through this sort of obfuscation, not to create more of it. The best journalists are almost the antithesis of professionals. The horror of disrepute, the preternatural respect for authority and the fear of controversy that so benefit the professional are absolute handicaps for a journalist. I doff my cap to those who have survived the experience of journalism school and still write good journalism. They deserve every Distinguished Alumni Award they receive, and more. The first sentence on the plaque that you see when you walk through the frontdoor of the Columbia Journalism Schol may or may not be true, but it sets a fittingly autocratic, unreflective tone. The second sentence is ungrammatical. The last two sentences offer the sort of grandiose vision of journalism entertained mainly by retired journalists or those assigned to deliver speeches before handing out journalism awards. Highly flattering to all of us, of course, but it would be more true to flip the statement to read: "A cynical, mercenary, demagogic people will produce in time a press as base as itself . . ."
plantsman-
Danke.
I'm not religious, and don't give a flying fark what you think.
"eager to hear the latest "developments" in the ongoing saga of the death of Tim Russert."
Reality in my opinion is the average joe is sitting there asking who the hell this dead guy is?
diane, i'm curious. were there people on the list whose sleep paralysis was triggered by a particular tragedy? i'd experienced it once or twice in my life when i was younger, usually from a recurring childhood nightmare, but it wasn't common. now it happens fairly often, and almost always when dreaming about my daughter.
dirk gently, melancaholic
dirk, the one fairly common thread was stress. Another common point was that among men, the disorder started when they were pre- and pubescent and manifested as "Night Terrors."
For me, stress and a lack of normal sleep patterns tends to bring it on, but I would imagine that close to the various anniversaries you associate with your daughter there is a triggering mechanism going on.
One of the things I try to do once my nearly conscious mind figures out what's going on is to calm down and let the hallucination play out. It's often very enlightening.
Leibniz, wouldn't you rather watch something tasteful, like Pamela Anderson's sex tapes?
Garrison Keillor said the death of an old man is not a tragedy. Gender-exclusive language aside, I find that particularly beautiful.
geor3ge | 06.14.08 - 8:01 pm | #
when my grandfather passed at the age of 67, his 93 year old mother was inconsolable.
I've been practicing a little this week. Once again, makes the arms, shoulders and neck hurt like hell.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.14.08 - 8:04 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I felt the old tendonitis creeping up this afternoon during practice. Fortunately, my day job is at a chiropractor's office. Free adjustments, baby!
Flag Day is also my half-birthday.
Just sayin'
Zap Rowsdower...True Story!
It's my full on birthday. What did you get me?
I seem to remember some parades in the 1950s that included Spanish-American war veterans. Is that even possible?
Leibniz, wouldn't you rather watch something tasteful, like Pamela Anderson's sex tapes?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Especially since she and Tommy Lee have recently "reunited."
My lover bled out before my eyes in hospital. I'll say what works for me.
Let me put on my waders
when my grandfather passed at the age of 67, his 93 year old mother was inconsolable.
dirk gently, melancaholic | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 8:05 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
67 is way too early. Way.
If your parents are still living, doubly so.
Every summer I see the Memorial and Independence Day parades from my office window.
This is because I run my own business and work those days while I see other people taking that day off and sitting and watching the parades.
I enjoy them just the same.
Darth, what a cool story about your parents.
My mother's high school in Belfast claimed it only graduated virgins. Perhaps that was true. Most of my mother's class had dropped out long before graduation due to 'premature births.'
One word, people:
Ludes.
Jeebus.
My lover bled out before my eyes in hospital. I'll say what works for me.
plantsman
plantsman, don't let anyone bully you into "acceptable usage".
We're having a lovely thunderstorm.
Dear God, just one negative story about Russert, please?
If you do I won't say fuck so much.
One of the things I try to do once my nearly conscious mind figures out what's going on is to calm down and let the hallucination play out. It's often very enlightening.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
i've tried that too, depending on what kind it is. sometimes i'm trying to hold on to it, sometimes to make it go away. but either way, the paralysis is always frightening and frustrating.
the brain is a wierd thing, huh? at least i don't think that i'm a hat.
I seem to remember some parades in the 1950s that included Spanish-American war veterans. Is that even possible?
Yes. They would only have had to be about 70 -- roughly McCain's age.
We're having a lovely thunderstorm.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Isn't it grand?
Though I've never seen the likes of a thunderstorm like when I lived in Oklahoma. Man, but they were majestic.
My mother's high school in Belfast claimed it only graduated virgins. Perhaps that was true. Most of my mother's class had dropped out long before graduation due to 'premature births.'
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.14.08 - 8:07 pm | #
MSNBC is still doing the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
Well, at least they stopped rending their garments. That was getting ugly.
If you have excess disposable income from the stimulus package just go shopping and buy some new shoes.
Now, THAT's offensive.
effin tags
My mother's high school in Belfast claimed it only graduated virgins. Perhaps that was true. Most of my mother's class had dropped out long before graduation due to 'premature births.'
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.14.08 - 8:07 pm | #
Faith and begorah! Must have been the influence of liberals, corrupting the moral fiber of the nation.
geor3ge, I just need to practice more consistently. I was doing fine when Maddy first moved in--she loved it, even though I sounded like a cat having its tail stepped on (I'm being charitable here). Once Mlle started going down the tubes, however, it was cast aside. I'm trying to at least do scales every day. On the plus side, the body really does have muscle memory--my fingering's still pretty much there. Bow control is something else altogether.
"i wasn't allowed near musical instruments. not after the first one."
--dirk gently
After my sister punched me in the ribs while singing in church when I was about 9 (saying don't sing so loudly), I never sang in public again. I did sing to tapes in the car with my kids, but they didn't care.
I could draw though, and my sister couldn't. 
If you have excess disposable income from the stimulus package just go shopping and buy some new shoes.
Did I mention mine's going towards a mortgage on a piece of deadweight in Indiana?
the brain is a wierd thing, huh?
As a friend in neuroscience says, to use technical terms, "Brains are freaky."
Dear God, just one negative story about Russert, please?
If you do I won't say fuck so much.
Gomez
I know it's not nice to badmouth the dead, but I've never understand that bullshit about how someone can be a terrible person in life, but once they pass on, you should say only good things about them.
I mean, c'mon.
If your parents are still living, doubly so.
geor3ge | 06.14.08 - 8:07 pm | #
it doesn't matter how old one is - as nanna said at the time, it's always horrible when a parent outlives a child.
i remember her exact words (it was 38 years ago) but i can't repeat them. still.
Some new guy named To B. Announced will host "Meet The Press" tommorrow.
when my grandfather passed at the age of 67, his 93 year old mother was inconsolable
Children are supposed to bury their parents.
Parents are never supposed to bury their children. Theoden King had it right.
I cannot possibly convey the grief that my parents suffered when my brother died.
I cannot possibly convey the comfort that family and friends gave them in that hour of loss.
All the homophobia was washed away by the sheer tragedy. The only thing good that came from it.
The fourth of July parade in my hometown, the FD used to throw candy from the trucks. I was a big fan of parades, and very disappointed and confused by the candyless Memorial Day and Labor Day parades. When I was about seven, I figured it out.
I was slow.
Sluggish from all the candy.
violins are awe inspiring instruments.
so few strings and such a sound.
Sallyh, muscle memory is a wonder, isn't it? In a lot of ways it's the least reliable kind of memory, but as musicians we depend on it.
sallyh-
good for you. my mom's dad was a decent violinist, studied with Eugene Ysaye. Mom had violinists' hands but played piano. She had a great touch. I spent hours doing two piano stuff with her, mostly things like Mozart concerti. I would give anything to be able to play with her again. We were in sync (xcpt when she would look across the pianos at me and say "That's a b flat!").
Why Parades?
So that the drum majorettes have some place to strut their stuff.
rootless, they really are versatile and amazing with the range of tones and timbre you can get from them--assuming, of course, that you have the skill level necessary to do so.
geor3ge they have those dry storms there.
Just thunder and lightning. I don't like those as much.
From my window you can see all the way down to Coney Island. Seeing the lightning crashes on the beach is awesome.
I know it's not nice to badmouth the dead, but I've never understand that bullshit about how someone can be a terrible person in life, but once they pass on, you should say only good things about them.
I mean, c'mon.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 8:11 pm | #
The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones
Women too. Not that the Romans cared.
violins are awe inspiring instruments.
so few strings and such a sound.
rootless-e, reweird
Yes, yes, yes.
I could say the same about all of them. Damn but I love my job.
but once they pass on, you should say only good things about them.
That Adolf, really not a bad artist for a totalitarian mass murderer, and he loved his dog, at least until he poisoned it to test the strength of his cyanide capsules.
Until you're heard a marching band do "Spinning Wheel" you haven't lived.
Some new guy named To B. Announced will host "Meet The Press" tommorrow.
nottin bob
I thought Brian Williams, but I guess they like to pretend that being anchor of the evening news is still a big deal.
So I'll say David Gregory.
But I'll say this... anchor or no anchor, when Williams and Russert were on together there was no doubt who was lower in the pecking order. IMHO.
TIM RUSSERT HID A FAMILY OF JEWS FROM THE NAZIS.
IN HIS BELLY.
Said one girl, "Really, we could've fit my whole old neighborhood, but we didn't want to test our luck. Also, he inhales rather than chewing his food, so it was the best we ate for the whole war."
Darth, you're right about it being wrong for parents to bury their children.
I've reminded Mlle that I will not do it.
Until you're heard a marching band do "Spinning Wheel" you haven't lived.
Gomez
I can hear the marchin' band
Doin' the best they can to play
Smoke on the Water
Joy to the World
/james mcmurtry
geor3ge they have those dry storms there.
They do, but the sky is just, I don't know, bigger there. People who are awed by a Laser Floyd show ain't seen the likes of it.
After my sister punched me in the ribs while singing in church when I was about 9 (saying don't sing so loudly), I never sang in public again. I did sing to tapes in the car with my kids, but they didn't care.
my kids loved my singing - until they were old enough to know better. but for some reason, no matter how many times i explain it, directors keep wanting to cast me in musicals. best one was when i did oklahoma.
i played ali hakim, who they promised would not have to sing. then they gave me the song, which they said i could talk through - and during rehearsals they kept telling me 'no, don't try to sing it.' but i was originally supposed to be backstage adding to the chorus for some songs (typical in community theater) - after about 4 rehearsals the music director (who is a wonderful person) said very kindly that she realized my next entrance was from the other side, and she knew that i'd want enough time to get into character so they could struggle on without me.
MTP will be a stupid fucking tribute show.
I'll watch the old guy or stuffingenvelopes unless they fellate him all show too in which case I'll go to church or get a root canal.
geor3ge, athletes rely on it as well. And no way could we type without it.
I can hear the marchin' band
Doin' the best they can to play
Smoke on the Water
Joy to the World
/james mcmurtry
SteveLG
I once heard a high school band play Metallica's "Enter Sandman". Oddly enough, it worked.
Atrios's idea of a parade:
Moving all of you to Manhattan on crappy public busses.
TIM RUSSERT HID A FAMILY OF JEWS FROM THE NAZIS.
IN HIS BELLY.
Tim Russert drank my milkshake and all of DC's milkshakes.
But I'll say this... anchor or no anchor, when Williams and Russert were on together there was no doubt who was lower in the pecking order. IMHO.
SteveLG
NBC news/pundit shop seems to be very hierarchical. Everyone defered to Russert, Brokaw is treated like the childless uncle with the vast fortune, Williams the heir apparent, everybody else scrambling for a seat at the grown-ups table.
"Wanker 24/7/365
John McCain."
FYT.
the brain is a wierd thing, huh?
As a friend in neuroscience says, to use technical terms, "Brains are freaky."
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Amen to that!
All those chemicals and electrical impulses leading to various kinds of consciousness...absolutely stunning.
By the way, Sallyh, you speak of muscle memory. I'm finding an unusual degradation of mine, although perhaps not so unusual.
I'm a pretty good typist, but lately I find myself typing Untied States instead of United States.
You are right to doubt that Tim Russert is a hero. Russert is more of a pre-god elemental or titan, who eats the sun every year.
Where will Cheney go now to get his message out?
Diane, that's not lack of muscle memory, that's your subconscious stating the way it really is.
dirk,
I was Ado Annie in Oklahoma in a community theater production.
"I'm just a girl who cain't say no."
Didn't Ado have a flirtation with Ali Akim?
Moving all of you to Manhattan on crappy public busses.
cahuenga | 06.14.08 - 8:17 pm | #
We can gather around Grant's tomb and ask who was buried there.
You know if we discovered intelligent life in the universe or if Jesus came back, they'd still show those stupid fucking prison shows on MSNBC.
After my sister punched me in the ribs while singing in church when I was about 9 (saying don't sing so loudly)
Oh, so she's the culprit.
The congregation I work for has a lot of decent voices, but a repertoire of next to nothing. If they know the hymn, you can hear them in the next county. If not, it's like pulling teeth to get a sound out of them.
What amazes me is what they don't know. I'll program what I think is an Episcopal standard, and hear crickets from the pews. And I think: Really? This one escapes you? Really??
Its possible that Russert caught his heart disease from Cheney.
Russert is more of a pre-god elemental or titan, who eats the sun every year.
And apparently the sun now shines out of his ass now that he's in that great newsroom in the sky.
You know if we discovered intelligent life in the universe or if Jesus came back, they'd still show those stupid fucking prison shows on MSNBC.
Gomez
And "To Catch a Pervert."
We can gather around Grant's tomb and ask who was buried there.
rootless-e, reweird
Now that's journalism!
Sallyh I've got some decent iced coffee. Do you want me to make one and beam it through the tubes to you?
Sugar,
cream,
splenda,
cocoa and chili powder?
And apparently the sun now shines out of his ass now that he's in that great newsroom in the sky.
Toonscribe: employed-is
That is a sun that will never set.
SteveLG, dog, do I hate those shows.
At least Timmeh did his part to keep SS solvent.
geor3ge, athletes rely on it as well. And no way could we type without it.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
When I first visited physical therapy with a bad case of tendonitis, the therapist had to remind me: a musician is an athlete, too.
Didn't Ado have a flirtation with Ali Akim?
Shaw Kenawe | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 8:19 pm | #
ah, the persian goodbye! it was a bit more than a flirtation, nearly ended in a shotgun wedding.
my daughter would not come see the show, because i was 47 and the girl playing annie was 17. someone pointed out that was about right by the script. still, daughter said it was gross.
Doug, could you skip the Splenda? I don't like sweet drinks. The rest sounds positively divine!
Its possible that Russert caught his heart disease from Cheney
I don't understand why the doctors who keep Cheney alive wouldn't have kept Timmeh alive. He is part of the plan, isn't he?
"Urban futurist" predicts
Edmonton (Alberta) will become a world class city thanks to low taxes. Of course,
he'd say the same thing about Moose Jaw if he were speaking there
Oh, move over Butte!
Toons, are you melting yet?
I'm comfortable, which probably means you're not.
Edmonton (Alberta) will become a world class city thanks to Global Warming"
fyt.
anyone from Minnesota? Tim Penny has publicly joined Liebercrats for McCain. Should I be as surprised as I am? I thought he was one of the good guys
And "To Catch a Pervert."
That show is just porn for the pedophilial-curious.
Here comes the rain again. Falling on my head like a memory.
Gomez, LOL!
Just for the nostalgia, here's timmy's pre war "interview" with Cheney
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/
in...eetthepress.htm
Thunderstorm here.
Fare Thee Well, Pumpkinhead:
What the Rude Pundit will miss about Tim Russert is that, aggravating though he could be, you got the sense that he actually gave a shit. And these days, that is a rare commodity indeed.
Still, however wonderful a human being Russert may have been and however hard this may be for his family, friends, and colleagues, does his sudden death really warrant non-stop encomiums for the last 7 hours or so on all the news networks? How many hours until it's just sad masturbation masked as mourning? Did Iowa dry up?
The Rude Pundit can't even do it.
Shoot me now.
ah, the persian goodbye! it was a bit more than a flirtation, nearly ended in a shotgun wedding.--dirk gently
"Whacha gonna do when a feller acts flirty and talks real purty? Whacha gonno do? S'pposin' that he sez that yer sweeter than cream and he's gotta have cream or die? Whacha gonna do?
Spit in his eye?"
SteveLG, dog, do I hate those shows.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
The whole atmosphere of overwrought righteousness almost makes me sympathetic to the creeps.
So I don't watch them at all, in order to avoid that uncomfortable situation.
Tink, tink, gurgle, gurgle, gurgle, a splash of cream and a teaspoon of the cocoa and chili powder, stirring madly.
Bxxxxxxzzzzzzzzttt!
I hope that didn't get on your keyboard.
Camelot, I really think Cheney is dead, and it's sophisticated robotics that make him appear marginally 'alive.'
tonight's menu
bbq
homegrown pork loin rib roast
corn on the cob
baked potatoes
The only funny Snorg Tee I've seen so far...
"Urban futurist" predicts
Edmonton (Alberta) will become a world class city thanks to low taxes. Of course,
he'd say the same thing about Moose Jaw if he were speaking there
Hey man, you're talking about the band city capital of North America!
Moose Jaw, Moose Jaw
city of harmony
Moose Jaw, Moose Jaw
the place to be
I'm comfortable, which probably means you're not.
Sallyh -- Definitely hot here, but I've managed to spend most of the day inside with the AC on.
anyone from Minnesota? Tim Penny has publicly joined Liebercrats for McCain. Should I be as surprised as I am? I thought he was one of the good guys
BlueinColorado
Tim Penney's big issue way back when was the balanced budget. He always struck me as a dumb guy trying to be smart, riding a conservative wave.
My 2 cents, from Minnesota
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...06/
placebo.html
hey i taped placebo (didnt find anything like an article today despite the death of Mr. Russert)
OK, folks, I'm off for a little supper.
Enjoy the evening, and stay dry, those of you facing yet another round of storms.
Toons, you have the AC on already?
It's got to be over 100 before I'll do that.
The only funny Snorg Tee I've seen so far...
Zap Rowsdower...True Story!
I think they're made intentionally unfunny so you don't find yourself looking at a girl's tits and laughing.
Tim Penny has publicly joined Liebercrats for McCain. Should I be as surprised as I am? I thought he was one of the good guys
Penny's an opportunist disguised as an independent. Always has been.
Color me mildly unsurprised.
Well, there was one interesting Russert tidbit from yesterday.
He was on a radio show the morning that he died. During it, he described the 2008 election as the most important of his lifetime.
another great idea from our corporate overlords.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/1...15cable.html?
hp
Yeah, cos high taxes have sucked all the world classiness out of Paris, New York, London and Venice.
I thought he was one of the good guys
Tim Penny was never one of the good guys. When he was a Democrat he was a blue dog, always undermining the Democratic agenda. Then he ran a sandbagging Independence Party gubenatorial campaign to help elect Tim Pawlenty.
Camelot, I really think Cheney is dead, and it's sophisticated robotics that make him appear marginally 'alive.'
Who are the sick fucks that want to keep Cheney, of all people, alive?
I mean speaking of Hitler.....
Good times.
MR. RUSSERT: If your analysis is not correct, and we’re not treated as liberators, but as conquerors, and the Iraqis begin to resist, particularly in Baghdad, do you think the American people are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle with significant American casualties?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I don’t think it’s likely to unfold that way, Tim, because I really do believe that we will be greeted as liberators. I’ve talked with a lot of Iraqis in the last several months myself, had them to the White House. The president and I have met with them, various groups and individuals, people who have devoted their lives from the outside to trying to change things inside Iraq. And like Kanan Makiya who’s a professor at Brandeis, but an Iraqi, he’s written great books about the subject, knows the country intimately, and is a part of the democratic opposition and resistance. The read we get on the people of Iraq is there is no question but what they want to the get rid of Saddam Hussein and they will welcome as liberators the United States when we come to do that.
Tim Penney's big issue way back when was the balanced budget. He always struck me as a dumb guy trying to be smart, riding a conservative wave.
Now that you mention it, wasn't he John Kasich's partner? I was a lot less suspicious of "bipartisanship" fifteen or twenty years ago. Looking at Wiki. Penny seems to be an ally of Jesse Ventura, The politics of "somebody else is taking YOUR money"
Erin, it's garlic rosemary roasted chicken, salad, and raspberries here.
Today I seem to have this dull ache of hatred running through my veins.
I see how joyful Russert was Election night 2000, a Black Day in our nation's history, and I seethe with anger.
It's got to be over 100 before I'll do that.
It just has to be over 90 for me.
*hangs head in shame*
During it, he described the 2008 election as the most important of his lifetime.
Richard
He won't be around to see the election fo an African-American president.
Digby just had "Tim Russert dead, RIP."
I don't think she liked him much.
Whacha gonna do when a feller acts flirty and talks real purty?
my favorite song from that show. *sigh* wouldn't it be wild if we got a chance to reprise our roles in the same show?
i bet you are sweeter than cream.
The read we get on the people of Iraq is there is no question but what they want to the get rid of Saddam Hussein and they will welcome as liberators the United States when we come to do that.
Oh, that takes me back...
OF an African-American president
SteveLG, Monsieur thinks the girl with the glasses and the red Snorg T is kind of cute.
Then he had to go and say, "She reminds me of you when you were younger."
Thanks, Monsieur.
Black bean and corn salsa over spinach salad with Copper river sockeye.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/
Prominent.html
the good news is, Penny is the second most prominent name on the list of Liebercrast
Today I seem to have this dull ache of hatred running through my veins.
I see how joyful Russert was Election night 2000, a Black Day in our nation's history, and I seethe with anger.
Gomez
Nice to know I am not the only one.
Today I seem to have this dull ache of hatred running through my veins.
Yes, I see that you dissed my 'soon to be profession' the other day. What's up?
I could be all pissy, but that is not where I'm going with this, are you Okay?
Russert was a shill. My condolences to his friends and loved ones, but I will not miss the gasbag.
Then he had to go and say, "She reminds me of you when you were younger."
[makes note in notebook: "what not to say to mrs. geor3ge"]
Camelot, what will be your new profession? Enquiring minds want to know.
I see how joyful Russert was Election night 2000
I had NPR on that night. Glad I missed it.
I just bought this album.
I guess it was worth ten bucks...
the good news is, Penny is the second most prominent name on the list of Liebercrast
BlueinColorado | 06.14.08 - 8:31 pm | #
perhaps someone should mention to them what mccain thinks of the supreme court's latest gitmo decision. then they can stop pretending to be disaffected dems or independents and admit that they are fascists.
Russert was a shill. My condolences to his friends and loved ones, but I will not miss the gasbag.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Fluffer for Bush, Cheney and their kind.
I resent him being treated as an Edward R. Murrow or even a Peter Jennings.
Is Atrios going through some kind of a Michael Jackson-like phase? There have been a lot of weird posts lately.
Sallyh
Secondary teacher.
Russert was a shill.
The honest assessment of his career is that he was important, but he certainly wasn't good.
The fact that all the teevee journos (including Olbermann) are saying he was the shining example of their craft says a lot about how corrupted their craft has become.
I see how joyful Russert was Election night 2000
2004, too.
Yes, I see that you dissed my 'soon to be profession' the other day. What's up?
I could be all pissy, but that is not where I'm going with this, are you Okay?
camelot-Obama/Maddow '08
It will end if and when Obama is president.
At least Atrios doesn't obsessively go to other people's blogs and whore his boring shit...
Camelot, you're my hero.
Primary and secondary school teachers are the real trench warriors of education.
Peter Jennings.
Oh my, that puts it in perspective.
Man found not guilty after killing police officer who raided home with knockless warrant
This is something we predicted a long time ago. We are at the crest or the crashing down of a recent history of increasingly aggressive policing, policing which has been as lazy and cowardly as it has been ineffective. Morons, the paperwork-illiterate and people with bad manners are swept off our streets in punishment for being low-hanging fruit while child porn and white collar crime thrives behind walls. One of the stupidest of many stupd cop tricks is the knockless warrant, a misguided overreaction to the (notably failed) seige defense of a drug dealer who didn't sleep in and offered raiding police a robust welcome. Lots of people have guns, and have those guns as part of a narrative in which they use those guns to defend their preoperty from badgeless strangers who try to break into their houses. It is as good as asking for dead cops. It remains to be seen whether a law enforcement culture that very much wants dead cops as martyrs and causus bureacraticbullshittius will do anything about this.
The fact that all the teevee journos (including Olbermann) are saying he was the shining example of their craft says a lot about how corrupted their craft has become.
puppethead
I've lost a lot of respect for Keith lately.
And yesterday, when he was going on and on about Russert, I thought I would puke.
Two of Tim Russert's failures:
1. The Bush presidency happened on his watch.
2. The Iraq war happened on his watch.
And he didn't lift a finger to try to stop either.
Then he had to go and say, "She reminds me of you when you were younger."
i won't even say that about my granddaughter!
Russert was a shill. My condolences to his friends and loved ones, but I will not miss the gasbag.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Yep. He got where he got to by making powerful people feel good about themselves, not by challenging them in any way.
A perfect symbol of what has gone so terribly wrong with the Third Estate, in our lifetimes.
At least Atrios doesn't obsessively go to other people's blogs and whore his boring shit...
Burrrrrn!
/hi5 Zap
Primary and secondary school teachers are the real trench warriors of education.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
A. Men.
I would add "private music teachers" as well, but I'm probably deluding myself.
Yes, I see that you dissed my 'soon to be profession' the other day. What's up?
Sorry I shouldn't have done that.
At least Atrios doesn't obsessively go to other people's blogs and whore his boring shit...
Zap Rowsdower...True Story!
yeah, but otoh he doesn't link to my brilliant posts.
which you can see at albatross!
It will end if and when Obama is president.
You have many things to look forward to.
It sounds like you eat healthy and exercise, don't let the stress get you.
As they say, "Don't let the bastards get you down."
I think Dan Rather would make a great replacement on MTP.
geor3ge, uh, music teachers are awesome, but they're in a separate category from those in the public schools. I wish music teachers WERE still in public schools--they do a lot of kids a world of good.
I can't even call Russert a journalist.
He was an interviewer and a shitty one at that.
We are at the crest or the crashing down of a recent history of increasingly aggressive policing
All the peacemakers turn war officers -The Clash, Police And Thieves
Oh, so I see you people are starting to feel like your effort to jizz all over Tim Russert yesterday is backfiring, and people aren't falling for it. So now you guys have to (again) write that you think he was a shill, like real liberals, instead of pretending that all liberals really don't mind being fucked over by the likes of Russert.
Yeah, it's totally weird that there would be hundreds of comments praising Russert on Daily Kos the day he died.
I guess some people are a little too dumb to realize that their whole life is not going to be like high school where they could scam dorky nerds into believing anything just by trying, and you really can't convince people the sky is green when it's actually blue. A dumb miscalculation on you guys' part. Oops!
Lots of people have guns, and have those guns as part of a narrative in which they use those guns to defend their preoperty from badgeless strangers who try to break into their houses. It is as good as asking for dead cops. It remains to be seen whether a law enforcement culture that very much wants dead cops as martyrs and causus bureacraticbullshittius will do anything about this.
kei & yuri
Cory Maye. He's still in jail, afaik.
Russert wasn't the only thing wrong with the SCLM...but he was a symptom.
I don't take much joy in folks dying suddenly, is all...
I can't even call Russert a journalist.
He wasn't one, no schooling in it at all. He just played one on teevee.
I think Dan Rather would make a great replacement on MTP.
Gomez
I was thinking that today.
But, nah. Too much his own man.
...instead of pretending that all liberals really don't mind being fucked over by the likes of Russert.
And will totally forget all the shit he's been doing just because he died.
Swan, I don't give a flying fuck what you think.
Go back to Drum's place.
Thanks Sallyh
I wish music teachers WERE still in public schools--they do a lot of kids a world of good.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
You can thank Citizens for Limited Taxation and their ilk for that debacle.
Arts education didn't exist when I was a tot.
Terry C, yeah, Rather MIGHT actually ask real questions. Can't have that now, can we?
Fuck.
Cheney called Russert our go to guy in the media.
Nuff said.
Swan | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 8:39 pm
Your concern is noted, oh fountain of all wisdom.
From the Timmeh and Cheney show transcript:
MR. RUSSERT: If your analysis is not correct, and we’re not treated as liberators, but as conquerors, and the Iraqis begin to resist, particularly in Baghdad, do you think the American people are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle with significant American casualties?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I don’t think it’s likely to unfold that way, Tim, because I really do believe that we will be greeted as liberators. I’ve talked with a lot of Iraqis in the last several months myself, had them to the White House. The president and I have met with them, various groups and individuals, people who have devoted their lives from the outside to trying to change things inside Iraq. And like Kanan Makiya who’s a professor at Brandeis, but an Iraqi, he’s written great books about the subject, knows the country intimately, and is a part of the democratic opposition and resistance. The read we get on the people of Iraq is there is no question but what they want to the get rid of Saddam Hussein and they will welcome as liberators the United States when we come to do that.
MR. RUSSERT: The army’s top general said that we would have to have several hundred thousand troops there for several years in order to maintain stability.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: I disagree. We need, obviously, a large force and we’ve deployed a large force. To prevail, from a military standpoint, to achieve our objectives, we will need a significant presence there until such time as we can turn things over to the Iraqis themselves. But to suggest that we need several hundred thousand troops there after military operations cease, after the conflict ends, I don’t think is accurate. I think that’s an overstatement.
MR. RUSSERT: Every analysis said this war itself would cost about $80 billion, recovery of Baghdad, perhaps of Iraq, about $10 billion per year. We should expect as American citizens that this would cost at least $100 billion for a two-year involvement.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: I can’t say that, Tim. There are estimates out there. It’s important, though, to recognize that we’ve got a different set of circumstances than we’ve had in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan you’ve got a nation without significant resources. In Iraq you’ve got a nation that’s got the second-largest oil reserves in the world, second only to Saudi Arabia. It will generate billions of dollars a year in cash flow if they get back to their production of roughly three million barrels of oil a day, in the relatively near future.
MR. RUSSERT: Brent Scowcroft, arrogance, black eye. Eighty-five percent of Spain, 86 percent of Germans, 91 percent of Russians, all against this war. What happened? How did we lose a PR battle against Saddam Hussein in the world, and why would Brent Scowcroft say those kinds of things?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I have great affection for Brent. We’ve been friends for a long time. He is occasionally wrong, and this is one of those occasions.
Oh, so I see you peo--
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Fuck Republicans
It will be a great day for this country when your political movement is fizzling and quitting out, and it will happen.
Uhh... what exactly is the context of the bukkake for Russert comment? Is "jizzing all over him," like, demonstrating possession on the part of the jizzeur and debasing to Russert, or is it like meant to be enjoyed by Russert, or what?
geor3ge, one of the worst moves ever. It makes for an incomplete education. I won't say orchestra saved my life, but I know people for whom it did.
I see how joyful Russert was Election night 2000
I'm guessing Russert was a Democrat because 1) he came from an Irish-Catholic working-class background in Buffalo, 2) he worked for Mario Cuomo and Daniel Patrick Moynihan; and 3) his wife is some sort of bigwig at Vanity Fair.
Just guessing. But I can't imagine he'd be a Rethug with that background.
I don't take much joy in folks dying suddenly, is all...
Zap Rowsdower...True Story! |
me either. he wasn't even the worst. i don't feel the need to slap him down the day after he dies.
but the coverage and the fawning is fair game.
geor3ge, uh, music teachers are awesome, but they're in a separate category from those in the public schools. I wish music teachers WERE still in public schools--they do a lot of kids a world of good.
Amen to that!
Cheney called Russert our go to guy in the media.
This is all you need to know about the "journalism" of Timmeh.
Encompassed in a mere ten words.
Swan you were better as an ugly duckling.
It will be a great day for this country when your political movement is fizzling and quitting out, and it will happen.
Yeah...if we'd only had listened to your incessant blogwhores...
Scram.
It makes for an incomplete education.
Studies have also shown music and arts education increase retention of other subjects. Stimulating the brain and all.
It will be a great day for this country when your political movement is fizzling and quitting out, and it will happen.
Swan
OH, I think there are indeed cycles to politics and history. But your way is going down and our way up, by all indications, right now.
Enjoy the ride.
And take an English class, would you?
It will be a great day for this country when your political movement is fizzling and quitting out, and it will happen.
What...an...asshole.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I have great affection for Brent. We’ve been friends for a long time. He is occasionally wrong, and this is one of those occasions.
Gimlet
This reminds me of my recent political fantasy: President Obama appoints Al Gore and Brent Scowcroft bipartian co-chairs of the Iraq War Truth and Reconciliation Committee (is that the right term? Sounds a little stalinist), with Ricard Clarke as their chief counsel.
goodnight.
I won't say orchestra saved my life, but I know people for whom it did.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I went through 12 years of Catholic school. Were it not for spring musical and private piano lessons, I probably would not be here. No exaggeration.
but the coverage and the fawning is fair game.
Of course.
I'm immune to most of it; as I don't have teh dish or cable.
I dunno...
I don't take much joy in folks dying suddenly, is all...
Zap Rowsdower...True Story!
I don't either.
But all this fawning on MSNBC's part is way over the top.
Cory Maye. He's still in jail, afaik.
Adam Hominem Not banned yet | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 8:39 pm | #
Simple common sense on balancing the advantage of not letting dealers flush drugs down the toilet against the disadvantage of dead cops, dead citizens, and a major hole in the bill of rights has never been applied, because the thrill of no-knock is too much for the tough guys.
I'm immune to most of it; as I don't have teh dish or cable.
diehard is on now. bruce willis saved me.
What...an...asshole.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
To be fair, I think Swan was referring to Republicans. No less earnestly annoying, but still...
Among Russert's mistakes:
Katie Couric was one of his proteges.
On a totally different subject: I love me a good slide-guitar player.
Simple common sense on balancing the advantage of not letting dealers flush drugs down the toilet against the disadvantage of dead cops, dead citizens, and a major hole in the bill of rights has never been applied, because the thrill of no-knock is too much for the tough guys.
rootless-e, reweird
Our drug laws are draconian.
And futile.
And this comes from someone who has never done drugs, never wanted to do drugs and doesn't seen anything in them.
, 2) he worked for Mario Cuomo and Daniel Patrick Moynihan; and 3) his wife is some sort of bigwig at Vanity Fair.
Russert was almost certainly a Democrat at some point. But so were Joe Lieberman and Bob Kerrey. Moynihan was a non-progressive Dem, to say the least, I once heard Maureen Orth on Ring Of Fire, talking with a combination of horror and disdain about "these BLOGS....", that were the cause of all divisiveness and rancor in modern politics (her son wanted to go to Iraq, but he has his radio sports show with Mr Mary Matalin, and babes in hot tubs to grope).
Still, she was the dedicatee of Lonesome Dove, there must be more to her than meets my eye.
Russert never really accomplished anything in particular either; they are
fawning because they hope to be fawned over.
Thank God for the blogs.
Our drug laws are draconian.
I agree, but I do think they serve a purpose. They allow an all out war on the poor and helpless under the guise of stopping drugs. So futile? Only if you think their purpose is to stop drugs. They're not about that.
I once heard Maureen Orth on Ring Of Fire, talking with a combination of horror and disdain about "these BLOGS....", that were the cause of all divisiveness and rancor in modern politics (her son wanted to go to Iraq, but he has his radio sports show with Mr Mary Matalin, and babes in hot tubs to grope).
I read a book of hers about the Andrew Cunanan case a couple of weeks ago.
The homophobia between the lines infuriated me. She was so judgmental. Acted as if the victims "asked" for what happened to them because they were gay.
Russert never really accomplished anything in particular either...
Well, he hosted the most watched/most prominently attended/longest running show in television show in history. I'd say he accomplished something.
Again, YMMV.
"I can't even call Russert a journalist."
He wasn't one, no schooling in it at all...
Well, you don't need "schooling" to be a successful journalist. Just an inquisitive mind and a way with words. Case in point: Charlie Savage.
Pumpkinhead, however, had neither.
It also has to be pointed out that the "knock" in pre-"no knock" warrants was a simple cop lie, a meaningless knock immediately before exploding or ramming the door in, a token concession to lawyers.
Thank God for the blogs.
Gomez
That's how I get my news.
I don't trust American news source.
And the stuff that the MSM does bother with....? It's a week after I hear about it here.
Thank God for the blogs.
Gomez |
Now I know something is wrong.
Our drug laws are draconian.
And futile.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
It's a way for the government to intimidate the citizens.
Without the opportunistic event of 9-11 it was to be used as a slow ratcheting down to more authoritarian rule.
Most assholes who were from solid democratic roots quickly change into smug all knowing assholes like Timmeh once they become millionaire fucking celebrities.
Then he had to go and say, "She reminds me of you when you were younger."
Thanks, Monsieur.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Well, at least he didn't compare you to the bonsai sandles I'm looking at.
Well, he hosted the most watched/most prominently attended/longest running show in television show in history. I'd say he accomplished something.
Again, YMMV.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story!
Howard Stern's damn popular too. They are/were both entertainers.
Trouble was, Russert claimed to be something more. But he wasn't. He was completely incompetent as a reporter, completely. As bad as AdNags and Ann kornblut; that bad.
I agree with your sentiments re. pissing on the grave, but it needs to be said. Russert was in a position to do some good, to tell some truth and he absolutely refused to take his mouth off Bush's cock long enough to do it.
Most assholes who were from solid democratic roots quickly change into smug all knowing assholes like Timmeh once they become millionaire fucking celebrities.
angryspittle
See: Matthews, Chris
I wish music teachers WERE still in public schools--they do a lot of kids a world of good.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
our district still has them
Terry C, you're absolutely right about drug laws in this country. Addicts don't need to be in jail; they need to be in rehab. And unless you've got a lot of money and good insurance, most rehab is absolutely out of the question.
On a totally different subject: I love me a good slide-guitar player.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story!
Me, too.
Terry C, you're absolutely right about drug laws in this country. Addicts don't need to be in jail; they need to be in rehab. And unless you've got a lot of money and good insurance, most rehab is absolutely out of the question.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Then you have that PIG, Limbaugh, railing about how addicts belong in jail.
Until he or HIS kind are caught with drugs.
That's a whole other story, of course.
what lousy timing i have. as soon as i leave, ina shows up.
Lumpen, he was a really irritable bastard this morning. I'm only letting him off the hook because it's Father's Day weekend. He said something that really stung. If I'm not over it before bedtime, I'll tell him.
our district still has them
ErinPDX
We have one for all the elementary schools in the district who travels from school to school, same with art.
So what?
So let's dance.
the most watched/most prominently attended/longest running show in television show in history
Most watched? -- of the Sunday morning political shows, which all have a rather small audience.
Most prominently attended? -- all those shows have virtually interchangeable guest lists.
Longest running? -- but most of its run was BEFORE he became the host.
Well, you don't need "schooling" to be a successful journalist.
I make the argument that Russert's "everything is off the record" approach to journalism is a direct result if his being untrained in what journalism is.
what lousy timing i have. as soon as i leave, ina shows up.
dirk gently, melancaholic |
dirk! 
I'm not really here--the girls are pushin' summer hours already (even though the 7yo has one more week of school) -- they're still awake, so I'll be leaving in a few minutes to read and tuck 'em in.
Then I'll be here!
I make the argument that Russert's "everything is off the record" approach to journalism is a direct result if his being untrained in what journalism is.
puppethead
Yes. Yesyesyes.
Terry C, you're absolutely right about drug laws in this country. Addicts don't need to be in jail; they need to be in rehab. And unless you've got a lot of money and good insurance, most rehab is absolutely out of the question.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
When I was in junior high in the mid-80s, I remember an ad campaign encouraging good citizens to "turn in" people we suspected of drug use. Even at the tender age of 13, I wondered aloud how jail time would help people who obviously suffered from a physical affliction. My teachers assured me it was all for their good in the long run. Or something.
Erin, LAUSD's barely got textbooks. Staples, Office Depot, Big Lots, etc., all have Teacher Appreciation Days where teachers can have discounted merchandise.
I think that's fucking sick, teachers having to pay for all of their own supplies. I had to do it in juvie, too--it was the Reagan years.
he hosted the most watched/most prominently attended/longest running show in television show in history.
Oh, so that's why nobody's fucking heard of him.
Some golfer named Rocco is leading the Open.
Then I'll be here!
ina, dessicated divinty
and i'll be gone. i'm not really still here now - but the 4 yo grandson decided today that he likes talking on the phone. mrs g and i switched off with him for over an hour (40 minutes of which were the words "you know what?")
he's off to the mall and we are off to bed.
Fuck.
Cheney called Russert our go to guy in the media.
Nuff said.
angryspittle
exactly
and that's why olberman needs a special comment directed back at his ass. "Sir, every night you point out how many days it has been since mission accomplished. Timmeh and your network played snare in the drumbeat, SIR. Where is your honor, SIR?"
maureen orth writes for vanity fair. her most notable story was on the michael jackson freakshow. she mostly writes celebrity/socialite focused pieces.
a recent piece by her was the hanky twisting at the decline in washington d.c. social circuit:
What I remember most vividly about that evening was an exchange I had with Bobby Kennedy, the attorney general. “What are you going to be next, vice president or senator?,” I asked rather impudently, because I did not want him to think I was a brainless bimbo. The question of how the Kennedy dynasty would proceed was very much in the air, for Lyndon Johnson had not yet announced a running mate. “What do you think I should be?,” Kennedy shot back, his steel-blue eyes boring into me. “Well, I think you should be senator,” I said, “because everyone remembers you trying to twist arms at the last convention, and I don’t think Lyndon Johnson will let you be vice president.” He then opened up a barrage of questions: “Who are you? What does your father do?” In the middle of one of my answers, he turned away and waved to a group of tourists on a boat at least a hundred yards from us across the Potomac. I was highly insulted, for I had been planning to enlist in the Peace Corps, whose director was his brother-in-law Sargent Shriver, and suddenly Bobby Kennedy seemed to me like just another pol. (In those days he was still closer to J. Edgar Hoover than to César Chávez or Martin Luther King Jr.)
http://www.vanityfair.com/politi.../
socialDC200712
So what?
So let's dance.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Future Mrs. G and I practiced our foxtrot on the back lawn before she left yesterday. The next door neighbor went on with her gardening obliviously.
I will cherish that memory.
Terry C, you're absolutely right about drug laws in this country. Addicts don't need to be in jail; they need to be in rehab. And unless you've got a lot of money and good insurance, most rehab is absolutely out of the question.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
"Just Say No"
From a bitch who was always loaded on Valium and god knows what else.
And who looked as though she hadn't eaten since the Eisenhower's first term.
Oh my God, This has been a day. Left the house at 6:30 am. Dead battery in car. Rainy, ugly day. Sad and aggravating things going on in the world and with Atriots. Listening to Al Gore at the end of this movie just pushed me over the edge.
[deep sigh]
It can only get better from here. Go Obama!
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
WOODS 50 FT PUTT FOR EAGLE
and that's why olberman needs a special comment directed back at his ass.
Methinks Keith jumped the shark.
Russert's legacy will be fleeting.
He presided over the worst presidency ever and hardly raised a squawk.
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
WOODS 50 FT PUTT FOR EAGLE
boom
Er, who cares?
Crack squad of 50 police
officers surround and arrest gang of youths looting stores. No, wait,
it was just one 4'7" 12-year-old boy who found a £10 note hanging out
of a cash machine. But in all fairness, he is black
he's off to the mall and we are off to bed.
dirk gently, melancaholic |
sweet dreams. i'm glad your grandson likes the phone. my folks are thrilled when the girls chat with them, but like me, they're not that into the phone (yet--i realize the teen years could be totally different!)
nona:
Leave it to Maureen Orth to piss on RFK's memory.
Er, who cares?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
actually, i kinda do. sorry, but folks here enjoy liveblogging the phillies and the cowboys and the other fooseball teams. tiger is worth a mention.
So what?
So let's dance.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Hee....
Between Caddyshack and tjhe Sopranos finale, I have an unwanted (sic) affinity for two Journey songs.
and that's why olberman needs a special comment directed back at his ass.
Honestly, where does this crap thinking come from? Olbermann is a GE enployee and probably a personal friend of a guy who just died suddenly. Yelling at him while he grieves ios not going to make him into Amy Goodman.
and now, really, goodnight.
meat puppets unite
geor3ge you're a musician so of course you have rhythm.
If all else fails just throw your hands up in the air and wave them round like you just don't care.
He presided over the worst presidency ever and hardly raised a squawk.
Who did...outside of the blogs?
None of the stenographers. But shit...he wasn't the only fucking person that could've stopped this fucking mess.
Lots of folks are giving him too much credit..and I may be one of them, too. But shit...
I wish music teachers WERE still in public schools--they do a lot of kids a world of good.
Just came from my best friend's son's high school graduation. He got into choir when he was a freshman, which led into drama, which led into his being cast in the "starring" roles in his junior and senior year productions. His college plans include taking a serious running and music and theatre.
One of his friends, and his co-star in the junior musical, won the school's overall "best student"-type award at the ceremony, and has a very impressive "honors" resume.
Two weeks ago, the school announced they'd be eliminating drama from the curriculum starting next year due to budget cuts.
When I graduated from high school, California had the number one public schools system in the country. Now after 30 years of right-wing-led tax cuts for the rich and corporations, it's in the bottom 5.
It's disgusting.
actually, i kinda do. sorry, but folks here enjoy liveblogging the phillies and the cowboys and the other fooseball teams. tiger is worth a mention.
dirk gently, melancaholic | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:02 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Being a shameless Red Sox fan, I concur.
dirk gently, melancaholic:
Oh, sorry.
Carry on!
Two weeks ago, the school announced they'd be eliminating drama from the curriculum starting next year due to budget cuts.
And yet the football team soldiers on, no?
okay, off to read letting swift river go.
i'll be back in a bit with chips and salsa!
BFD, Maureen Orth was insulted. Grrrrr. That article was insulting.
Sigh,
I guess nobody is immune from bloated head syndrome, even Keith....
Russert's been dead long enough to start telling the truth.
Well, I'm gonna drink some more and watch Hercules VS. The Moonmen.
Later.
I often wonder how my former SIL would have turned out had he had opportunities for rehab while he was young. He's been using drugs since he was 12. He was a bright, talented kid. His crimes were related directly to his substance abuse.
A life wasted.
If all else fails just throw your hands up in the air and wave them round like you just don't care.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 06.14.08 - 9:03 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
*mwah*
Sallyh, since he was 12?
Honestly, where does this crap thinking come from?
kei & yuri
you're cool with the war
i see
Fresh linen, you bastards.
"If all else fails just throw your hands up in the air and wave them round like you just don't care."
But...but what if, what if you really DO CARE?
What then? What then?
Sorry, that should read "His college plans include taking a serious run at music and theatre.
As always, Simels etc...
geor3ge, yes, since he was 12.
look, russert should have been given a dignified 2-3 minute (that's LONG in TV) story at the end of each news show, plus tomorrow's meet the press dedicated to him. That's it. This sick media is why we're in the mess.
Yep, the coverage was overkill yesterday.
Fuckers drop dead every day.
My only question is why the fuck wasn't it Dick? I'd feel sooooo much safer.
This sick media is why we're in the mess.
ErinPDX | 06.14.08 - 9:10 pm | #
That's not the only reason. Their corporate masters and a complicit Congress/FCC have a lot to do with it.
The press got co-opted after Watergate. Bastards like Cheney set the process in motion that made sure that true investigative journalism went the way of the dinosaur.
That became obvious with Iran Contra, when we were told the country still "had to heal" from Watergate, and the entire investigation was dropped.
But we have this media, not the one we want, and we have to figure out a way to swing them.
Mr. Dirk, I saw your comments at the top of this thread regarding sleep/stress. Though you know yourself best, I've found 2 home remedies handy. 1) don't eat dinner less than 3 hours before bed and if you can handle it try not to eat a heavy meal at dinner- do it earlier in the day. This has something to do with the amount of energy your body spends digesting while you are sleeping. 2) This sounds nutty and new age, but I try to think of 5 things I'm grateful for. Some days I'm lucky to feel grateful for air but other times you might find yourself thinking of a moment spent with friends or such. This type of thinking sorta puts my brain in a better place for resolving whatever creepiness is waiting for my semi-conscious self. Sorta like a positive prepping.
Either way I've found these 2 things are easy to test out. I wish you the best.
"we're having a parade at Fantastic Sam's"-Michael O'Hanlon
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