I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatar“Man cannot live by bread alone; he must have peanut butter.”
~ James A. Garfield

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GravatarShitpiles are fungible.
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GravatarGreed is good. To get rich is glorious.


GravatarAlready?


Gravatarc'mon Pitt!


GravatarCurses! Deadthreaded again!

Bumped from below:

I really hope simels doesn't see this. The poor guy...it will crush him that Alf has sunken to such depths for cheap publicity.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 20...to_n_74770.html

O'Reilly To Debate Alf Tonight
No one ever said Bill O'Reilly wasn't crazy, but tonight he'll take his insanity to a new level when he debates 80's sitcom puppet Alf.


GravatarI hope the Chinks bought some of the shitpile.


Gravatarpoop
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Gravatar8 elk in the pasture and a grey fox in the driveway tonight


GravatarHey, the pic in that story reminds me of one I took yestiddy.


GravatarBut regulation is bad. Always. The less regulation the better. Even if it bankrupts small towns, medium size states, and multi billion dollar financial institutions. NO regulation. And don't get me stahted on gov't oversight either.

/you know who


GravatarI'll ook for poop in the morning


Gravatarthey're all gullible.


GravatarBut regulation is bad. Always. The less regulation the better. Even if it bankrupts small towns, medium size states, and multi billion dollar financial institutions. NO regulation. And don't get me stahted on gov't oversight either.

/you know who
Neponset | 12.01.07 - 9:07 pm


No no no... we need regulation to allow Goldman Sachs and citi to walk away from any and all obligations.

Risk is to be socialised. The profits must be privatised.


GravatarI'll ook for poop in the morning

Obviously, you'd ook for anything. You're easy!
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GravatarNeponset | 12.01.07 - 9:07 pm | #

Yup. The free market is perfect, and if the country descends into chaos, it's OK, as long as the "market" says so.

Anybody who disagrees is a communist.


GravatarNot large financial institutions...


Gravatari'd likie some more rudy! stories to break tonight...


Gravatarrudi, rudi, rudi


Gravatar"Backwards. In a blizzard. In 120 degree heat."

we had the same parents. incredible.
jdw | 12.01.07 - 9:04 pm |


Well, no, but I did live in Cleveland.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 12.01.07 - 9:06 pm | #


GravatarDid you hear that it is out there that Obama is Muslim?


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Gravatari'd likie some more rudy! stories to break tonight...
jdw | 12.01.07 - 9:10 pm


Patience is a virtue. Wait until Monday.


Gravatarit's true. I've ooked for less


Gravatari'd likie some more rudy! stories to break tonight...

But chicks dig Dennis!


GravatarBuckeye: Why does my cat blame me for him being cold when it was he who wanted outside?

Because, you keep the indoor temperature comfortable, somehow, and make food appear.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 9:06 pm |


He's sitting on the couch now, bathing.

I know he knows I'm writing about him.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 12.01.07 - 9:08 pm |


Gravatar"Well, no, but I did live in Cleveland."

not the same same, but rather similar to the point of sameness.


GravatarAnybody who disagrees is a communist.

I thought they were trolls...?


GravatarAnyone read Hunter on dkos today?


GravatarYou'll ook to anything...


GravatarBuckeye: I know he knows I'm writing about him.

They seem to know a lot more than they let on...
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GravatarJohnny Cash originally was going to record "River of Fire," but Dennis Kucinich and Brian Boitano encouraged him to change the title.


GravatarYou'll ook to anything...

BECAUSE YOU'RE AN ART FAG!


GravatarMaybe these kinds of investments should be renamed as "quislings".


GravatarI know he knows I'm writing about him.

Cats are like the kids from Village of the Damned.


Gravatar"But chicks dig Dennis!"

ha! propoganda generated by space aliens.


GravatarMaybe these kinds of investments should be renamed as "quislings".

Isn't the 'quisling' a unit of measurement?


Gravatarha! propoganda generated by space aliens.

Where the fuck else do you think the aliens would come from? Mexico?

Geesh, what a dumbfuck you are.


GravatarI'm sorry, but the more I look at this picture from Friday, the more I think it fucking rocks.


Gravatar8 elk in the pasture and a grey fox in the driveway tonight
Damned at Random

that beats the 15 or so wild turkeys I had in front yard this morning.


GravatarThe link Bjorn posted in the last thread, just further proof that ignorance is bliss.


GravatarBuckeye: I know he knows I'm writing about him.

They seem to know a lot more than they let on...
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 9:13 pm


He's a very, very smart cat, is Spike.

And very tough. Though he did just let Brego sniff him. Usually he hisses if Brego is within feet of him.

However, he does occasionly allow Brego to lick his forhead, but if Spike realizes that I'm watching, then he'll smack Brego.

Has to keep up appearances, I suppose.


Gravatar"Where the fuck else do you think the aliens would come from? Mexico?"

there would be no doubt in my mind if you wrote clearly.

you need an editor and writing lessons. i've got a recommendation for ya *right here*.


Gravataryou need an editor and writing lessons. i've got a recommendation for ya *right here*.

Is that a reference to your cock, or a poster who acts the cock?


GravatarJennifer, they just don't know they're crazy.


GravatarMaybe these kinds of investments should be renamed as "quislings".
spinoza, non ridere, non luger | 12.01.07 - 9:14 pm


You and your lutefisk massage oil.

BTW, what is that you teach?


GravatarI love wild turkeys. The first one I ever saw flew low across the highway right in front of my car and my reaction was "what the fuck was that!" It looked about as aerodynamic as a bumblebee.


GravatarKarin - reminds me of the Al Franken book where Franken noted that on surveys, Limbaugh listeners would rate themselves as being extremely well-informed, while in fact they were the least informed of all.


GravatarSo in a roundabout way, these smalltown Norwegians have financed Americans' over consumption of junk from China.


Gravatar"Is that a reference to your cock, or a poster who acts the cock?"

take a pill and figure it out.


GravatarThe link Bjorn posted in the last thread, just further proof that ignorance is bliss.
Jennifer

just more repubic projection.

& Karm's right, the poor dears don't realize their condition.


Gravatarwell, the Mexican turkey soup came out pretty good.


GravatarI love wild turkeys. The first one I ever saw flew low across the highway right in front of my car and my reaction was "what the fuck was that!"

Stef had one smack into the windshield of her rental truck when she was moving out from MSP to BTV. Freaked the fuck out of Cairo, who hid in the passenger side footwell the rest of the trip...


GravatarI know he knows I'm writing about him.

Cats are like the kids from Village of the Damned.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 9:14 pm |


Ah, but now he's asleep, and in the twitchy stage of sleep where in his dreams he's chasing wildebeest out in the wild. He's totally adorable like this.


Gravatari don't think it should be forgotten that this is "reported" mental health.

and what's not to be happy about? republicans have been ruining this country all my adult life.

they seem to get a kick out of it.


GravatarDamned at Random: I love wild turkeys.

I had an ex-boss who had the windshield busted and the front of his roof peeled back on his Jeep Cherokee, hitting one of those.
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Gravatartake a pill and figure it out.

My back hurts too much to open the bottle. And you are too excessive in the words you write for me to understand precisely what you are saying to me in your comments that you post in response to what I'm saying.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying you should write like me, but just that I like the way I write and my pills make me happy so why are you always grittin' on me when I haven't done anything offensive?


GravatarDamned at Random: I love wild turkeys.


Me too. On the rocks, straight up, right out of the bottle, with a beer chaser.


Gravatarlooked about as aerodynamic as a bumblebee.
Damned at Random

True, a car drove by, they flew back directly towards the bedroom window.

A neighbor feeds them, I usually have a turkey parade through the back yard every evening.


GravatarLou Black on channel 60, y'all.
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GravatarOh, look, I found the perfect hing for Moe.

A wovel


GravatarSábado Gigante!
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Gravatarthat beats the 15 or so wild turkeys I had in front yard this morning. - 1Watt

Sweet Jesus, how's your head after the afternoon nap?


GravatarAs god is my witness....


GravatarOh man. Rumsfeld had an op ed in the Washington Post today? Why, oh why, oh why are we listening to the people who created the huge disaster we're in now? If he told me grass was green I would get a second opinion. But there he is.

Today the people of Venezuela face a constitutional referendum, which, if passed, could obliterate the few remaining vestiges of Venezuelan democracy. The world is saying little and doing less as President Hugo Chávez dismantles Venezuela's constitution, silences its independent media and confiscates private property.

You know who else is doing all that stuff? Mugabe in Zimbabwe. But no one cares about that. No oil. Save all the fancy talk Don. It comes down to one thing. Oil. Go away.


GravatarA wovel
JR


That looks like it'd be a lot harder to control than the animation would suggest.


GravatarMy Panthers are making the hoople heads sweat.


GravatarIf cats could open a can of tuna themselves, they wouldn't even let us in the house.

NTodd -- you know that the peace sign is Satanic! I forget why, but it was explained many times by pro-war people in the 60s (which I remember, but not that well ...)


GravatarIf I were to invest right now, it would be in Tar and Feathers!


Gravatar1Watt-
That was my point- long neck like a goose followed by that big awkward body and flapping like crazy.

They should just give up and be dodos.


GravatarToday the people of Venezuela face a constitutional referendum, which, if passed, could obliterate the few remaining vestiges of Venezuelan democracy. The world is saying little and doing less as President Hugo Chávez dismantles Venezuela's constitution, silences its independent media and confiscates private property.

Rumsfeld's writing about the U.S., right?


GravatarAs god is my witness....

You thought Steelers could fly?

NTodd -- you know that the peace sign is Satanic!

Oops. Well, I could always draw a pentagon, er...pentagram.


Gravatar WEEZER - PERFECT SITUATION

singing whoa ho....


GravatarThey should just give up and be dodos.
Damned at Random

Those suckers fly fast, 45 mph or better.


GravatarNTodd -- you know that the peace sign is Satanic! I forget why, but it was explained many times by pro-war people in the 60s (which I remember, but not that well ...)
Prior Aelred

up side down cross with broken arms.

well, that's what the southern baptists told me.

they also told me only the KJV of the bible was real, because, you know, it was original text.


Gravatar"Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying you should write like me, but just that I like the way I write and my pills make me happy so why are you always grittin' on me when I haven't done anything offensive?"

again you choose to misunderstand me. you don't like me? fine, i can deal with that. the fact that you don't give a shit about my situation means nothing to me, even as i sit here hopeless and jamming to gordon lightfoot emminating from my JBL's and the snow gently falling and forming crusty little knobules on my mustache.

you don't like this paragraph, do you? have you even read it, or did you give up already? many people do because our schools have failed us.
keep it up you transplanted nasal flatlander, or i'll give you some more endless paragraphs to read.


GravatarThe link Bjorn posted in the last thread, just further proof that ignorance is bliss. - Jennifer

Nope, that's proof of a higher incidence of delusion amongst 'Thuglicans, pure and simple.


GravatarThey may have to keep their counch unlighted in Morgantown tonight.


Gravatar"My Panthers are making the hoople heads sweat.
Gomez"

yeah baby. send karma, i be rooting for youuns.


GravatarClinton Decides Not To Seek Nomination

Gov. Bill Clinton announced today that he would not run for the 1988 Democratic Presidential nomination, ending weeks of speculation.

Gov. Bill Clinton announced today that he would not run for the 1988 Democratic Presidential nomination, ending weeks of speculation.

Mr. Clinton, 40 years old, said he would discuss his reasons at a news conference Wednesday in Little Rock. He declined further comment. His statement was issued through Bev Lindsey, an aide who had gone to work for Mr. Clinton this week. She had been a member of an advance team for Walter F. Mondale in the 1984 Presidential campaign.

Mr. Clinton had been thinking about entering the race for the nomination since a special session of the Arkansas Legislature ended on June 5. He was busy from January into April with a regular legislative session.

The Governor, who was elected to two-year terms in 1978, 1982 and 1984, has served six months of a four-year gubernatorial term, the first of that length in modern Arkansas history. He lost in 1980 to a Republican, Frank D. White. #34 Trips for Surveys Mr. Clinton had visited Iowa, the state with the first Democratic caucuses, New Hampshire, which has the first primary, and other states in 34 trips this year to survey the prospects for a Presidential campaign. Arkansas is one of the 14 states that will hold Presidential primaries on so-called Super Tuesday, March 8.


Gravataroj


GravatarEvening, y'all people.

Back from hubby's xmas party, a river/dinner cruise. It was pretty fun until right at the end when we got the WAR ON CHRISTMAS SCREED from the DJ.

"I'm sick of all this 'Happy Holidays' stuff. It's Christmas and that's a Christmas tree and I expect everyone to say 'Merry Christmas'" [general agreement from crowd]. (He had been plugging his church's Christmas show throughout the evening.)

I was spittin'. I stuck around trying to get a word with the guy but a bunch of other folks were gathered around and I needed a cigarette (and an axe).

They're gonna fucking hear from me. Fuck these fucking fuckers.


Gravatardet är jul.


GravatarOK -- Booger & Gabrielle wanted out -- Phred wanted attention -- Xena wanted to play -- cats!


Gravataragain you choose to misunderstand me. you don't like me? fine, i can deal with that. the fact that you don't give a shit about my situation means nothing to me, even as i sit here hopeless and jamming to gordon lightfoot emminating from my JBL's and the snow gently falling and forming crusty little knobules on my mustache.

you don't like this paragraph, do you? have you even read it, or did you give up already? many people do because our schools have failed us.
keep it up you transplanted nasal flatlander, or i'll give you some more endless paragraphs to read.


[wipes tear from eye, washes pain pill down with gallon of gin, shits out perfect paragraph that vanity publisher will publish without editing due to immense perfectedness]


Gravatarinte christmas...


GravatarSometimes it's better to keep your light under a bushel.
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GravatarDamn, I really do miss Draco.


GravatarGordon Lightfoot? How old are you? I'm 47 and a bit sick to my stomach.


GravatarOK -- Booger & Gabrielle wanted out -- Phred wanted attention -- Xena wanted to play -- cats!
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 9:37 pm


And the sleet/snow/rain is all your fault.


Gravataranybody see the TP post this morning about the new fundie sect, that thinks the (nonexistent) I-35 highway through Texas is predicted in Isaiah?


GravatarCould the WaPo OpEd page get any worse? It almost doesn't matter if they want to print Rummy's senile mutterings.


Gravatarhttp://www.wovel.com/

Which is why it's perfect for Moe.. not me.


GravatarSometimes it's better to keep your light under a bushel.

Brrr! It's cold, but I haven't lost anything crucial.

[looks down]

'cept my nuts. FUCK YOU, GOD!


GravatarMy back hurts too much to open the bottle.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


Do you feel strong enough to address an envelope and lick a stamp?


Gravatar[wipes tear from eye, washes pain pill down with gallon of gin, shits out perfect paragraph that vanity publisher will publish without editing due to immense perfectedness]

how can i buy a copy? will you be on oprah? is there a movie in the works?


Gravatarhello again.


GravatarSometimes it's better to keep your light under a bushel. - QuentinCompson

But flaming idiots never get the concept..


GravatarAlrighty, off to bed.

Stay warm, 'bats.


GravatarNight for me...some things to take care of...


Gravatarhow can i buy a copy? will you be on oprah? is there a movie in the works?
jdw


Wait -- you can READ?


GravatarSpeaking of Godspell...


Gravatargo PITT you black lung spawn of two- toothed meth addicts!


Gravatarhello again.
whiskey girl


Hey! How's your Saturday?


GravatarSpeaking of Godspell...
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


day by day....


Gravatar"hello again."

is it me you're looking for?


GravatarI-35 story from right wing watch- as commented on at Fundies Say the Darndedst Things:
http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/com...s.aspx? id=31784


GravatarOh, when whilt thou fuck the people: Speaking of Godspell...


Gravatar"Wait -- you can READ?"

if you keep it simple and use little words.


GravatarSpeaking of Godspell...
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby

day by day....
Gomez | 12.01.07 - 9:42 pm


It's all for the best
(and for those that don't remember the movie, go the very end of the clip for an interesting view)


GravatarI can't type for shit tonight. Should have left off at 2 glasses of wine I guess


GravatarOklahoma scores again.


Gravatar16 degrees F here in Boston right now.

Just finished a late dinner of some Trader Joe's burritos and a large, warmed chunk of Neshoba Brook sourdough bread.

The beverage du jour was a bottle of Virgils root beer.

Life is good.


GravatarDo you feel strong enough to address an envelope and lick a stamp?

Perhaps.

Alternately, your friend might benefit from some licking. But I guess she hates me.


GravatarI-35 story from right wing watch- as commented on at Fundies Say the Darndedst Things:

Oh my.


GravatarThis is why Iceland rules and Norway positively sucks. 2nd place, hah! That's for losers who invest in Citigroup-devised investment vehicles, which Icelanders can only sneer at behind their cool music and geothermal partying 'tudes.


Gravatarcharley --
Yeah -- if the KJV was good enough for Jesus & St. Paul!

(BTW -- I actually remember the 60s pretty well -- I never cared for dope & the county where I went to school was dry & undergraduates weren't allowed to have cars, so booze was hard to come by, although grad students supplemented their income with booze runs)


GravatarHow's everyone this fine evening?


GravatarSissy would be a good name for a girl.


GravatarIt's all for the best

One of my favorites to sing. But of course, I sing the whole fucking thing.


GravatarSissy would be a good name for a dog.
boo


GravatarDamned weatherpeople, predicted rain temps in high 30's, it's nearly 9 still 50, no sign of rain.


GravatarLick would be a good name for a boy.


GravatarAlternately, your friend might benefit from some licking. But I guess she hates me.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


Gravatar" Speaking of Godspell..."

quit pimping your bisexual dromedarians and copyright infringement.


GravatarLick Marlow.


Gravatar O SUPERMAN

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....


GravatarBTW, what is that you teach?

This semester? A senior seminar in comparative psychology and an introductory seminar in environmental studies.


GravatarNTodd -- you know that the peace sign is Satanic! I forget why, but it was explained many times by pro-war people in the 60s (which I remember, but not that well ...)
Prior Aelred


During the run-up to Gulf War '91, an evangelical classmate explained to me that the peace sign was actually a cross turned upside-down with the arms broken. To this day I find evangelicals to be full of their own shit.


Gravatarquit pimping your bisexual dromedarians and copyright infringement.

It's more bicurious camels and copywrong civil disobedience.


Gravatar"Oklahoma scores again."

schweet!


GravatarHow's everyone this fine evening?
geor3ge


No flirting.


GravatarIt's all for the best

One of my favorites to sing. But of course, I sing the whole fucking thing.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


Judas has the best lines in that song.


Gravatarha ha ha ha ha


GravatarPitt scores.


GravatarNTodd - I just got the. most. generic. letter from Nancy. I had sent her my sign from the protest and a photo of me holding it in front of the capitol ("Get a spine, we've got your back")

It was along the lines of, "Thank you for contacting me about an issue of importance to you. Suck wind and die."

OK, I might've made up that last part.


GravatarI should have named my dog Cookie - she answers to that. Also to Kitty, kitty, kitty.

Dumb mutt


GravatarDamn, I really do miss Draco.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby

oh stop, everybody be nice.

why can't we just be nice? it's not that hard, and it feels good.

i'd read your book jdw, unless you go on Oprah, then i ain't read'n it.

not that there is anything wrong with Oprah...


GravatarPitt scores.
grene


this is the hand.. the hand that takes.....


GravatarFrackin' tags.

Alternately, your friend might benefit from some licking. But I guess she hates me.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


I'm not giving up. In fact I'm going to invite her to Eschacon. I think she'd really enjoy the crowd.

She just started a job she's not crazy about, so she ought to be ready to get away for a weekend by then.


GravatarHey, geor3ge. I forget, are you a fan of Berlin theatre/cabaret songs? If so, you'll want to check out these broadcasts.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=T5S38LpMgu0

On the fundies who are worshipping, as it were, I-35.


Gravatarwhen force is gone , there's always mom....


GravatarIt was along the lines of, "Thank you for contacting me about an issue of importance to you. Suck wind and die."

Nancy can blow away like a dried leave in early winter. She's so fucking dead to me. Bitch attacks activists instead of the fucking GOP when she's done fucking goddamned notafuckingthing to end the war, restore habeas, etcetcetc? Fuck me, you fucking cockripping fuckbitch. Fuck.


GravatarPitt's playing? Did Heinz field ever dry out? That Stiller Dolphin game Monday night was hysterical


Gravatarhi mom...


GravatarI should have named my dog Cookie - she answers to that. Also to Kitty, kitty, kitty.

Dumb mutt
Damned at Random

When I was little, had a dog & horse. If I wanted the horse I called the dog & visa-versa.


GravatarShe just started a job she's not crazy about, so she ought to be ready to get away for a weekend by then.

I'll buy her a few drinks. I might even be charming!


GravatarRemember: I'm much nicer in person. Ask anybody.


GravatarOne of my favorites to sing. But of course, I sing the whole fucking thing.

Method 37! I was just checkin' the list today, because I was wondering if it included singing and praying.


GravatarPitt = Buster Douglas


GravatarPitt, destroyer of all dreams.


GravatarHey! How's your Saturday?
V for Virginia


Good, thanks. Made chocolate chip scones with the girls. Then started a 300 piece dinosaur puzzle with them (the box says ages 9+, they're 5 & 7, so together that's 12!)

How are you and yours?


GravatarRemember: I'm much nicer in person. Ask anybody.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


Don't I know it!


GravatarI should have named my dog Cookie - she answers to that. Also to Kitty, kitty, kitty.

Dumb mutt
Damned at Random


Mine answers to the sound of a can opener, but the vet had trouble transcribing it.


GravatarHey, geor3ge. I forget, are you a fan of Berlin theatre/cabaret songs? If so, you'll want to check out these broadcasts.
Karin |


You are correct. My shitty desktop won't let me open the link, but I've bookmarked it and will check it out next Monday while I'm farting around at work.

BTW, Future Mrs. Geor3ge and I found a rental in Summit, NJ, and I have an audition with an Episcopal church next weekend. We'll be back in the northeast by the new year.


GravatarBTW, I went to Pitt.


GravatarThis semester? A senior seminar in comparative psychology and an introductory seminar in environmental studies.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger

oh, i should have so stayed in psychology.

then i could have made big bucks and been a happy republican.

who knows, maybe even Dr. Phil...


GravatarRemember: I'm much nicer in person. Ask anybody.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby |


I'm lookin' forward to rating 'in person & naked...'


GravatarWhen the hell did Nancy become a GOPissant puppet?


GravatarPitt's playing? Did Heinz field ever dry out? That Stiller Dolphin game Monday night was hysterical
Damned at Random


You clearly love the Three Stooges.


GravatarActually, Booger & Gabrielle want out so bad that they don't mind the weather -- Booger's coat is so long & thick that he probably doesn't even notice (he is also stupid) & Gabrielle likes to kill things & play with them before she eats them.

Well, today was the first day of retreat -- not too bad -- by the end of the week I will be wanting to talk, though!

And it is growing late so g'night bats -- be good to one another!


GravatarHow are you and yours?
whiskey girl


Good, thanks, although I'm somewhat underemployed at the moment.

Chocolate chip scones sound good; hubby has to bake tomorrow for his work cookie party Monday, maybe I'll suggest them. Not too complicated? Never made scones.


GravatarMy dog answers to all the important words: parkies, parkies spelled a letter at a time, parkies in Finnish, pizza, food, din-dins, walkies. She also growls if anyone says "fuck".


GravatarRemember: I'm much nicer in person. Ask anybody.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


I'm funnier in person.


Gravatar'Night, Prior. Happy Advent Eve.


GravatarMethod 37! I was just checkin' the list today, because I was wondering if it included singing and praying.

Singing is the gaiiiest of NV Methods, and should be stricken from Sharp's list. It only destroys morale of the people resisting evil regimes.


Gravatar"Damn, I really do miss Draco."

i cut my leg open with a felling axe and blood is squirting out my eyelids and the puss from my wound smells like dead cats and my neck is turned backwards and im feeling like i might die in the next hour. what should i do?

there, ya feel better?


GravatarTigers Score!!


GravatarI'm lookin' forward to rating 'in person & naked...'

IIRC, that's the scheduled group activity for Saturday night.


GravatarBTW, Future Mrs. Geor3ge and I found a rental in Summit, NJ, and I have an audition with an Episcopal church next weekend. We'll be back in the northeast by the new year.


Nice! My wealthy cousin lives there. You'll want to check out the Reed-Reeves Arboretum come springtime, when the daffodils bloom.


Gravatarwho knows, maybe even Dr. Phil..

Dr. Phil is no more a psychologist than mimi is symmetrical.


Gravatarthere, ya feel better?
jdw


You need to double space that.


GravatarMizzou ties it.


GravatarNTodd, I sent you mail.


Gravatar
i cut my leg open with a felling axe and blood is squirting out my eyelids and the puss from my wound smells like dead cats and my neck is turned backwards and im feeling like i might die in the next hour. what should i do?


Stay there! I'll go get help!


GravatarNice! My wealthy cousin lives there. You'll want to check out the Reed-Reeves Arboretum come springtime, when the daffodils bloom.
Karin


Will do. I'll be in town to view the new digs this weekend. Unfortunately the place may be too rich for our blood when the time comes to own.


GravatarWow. I'm rooting for Mizzou after that conversion.


GravatarShe also growls if anyone says "fuck".
Echidne


My cat says "fuck".. Actually, he can say "fuck off" quite distinctly.


Gravatarmaybe I'll suggest them. Not too complicated? Never made scones.
V for Virginia | 12.01.07 - 9:56 pm |


I googled recipes, and chose this one. It was easy & delicious--the girls did most of it.


GravatarMy absolute favorite quote from Draco was,

Hello? Is anybody there? I can't see anything.

I mean, him telling me that he'd been informed behind the scenes that I was a troll and never to speak to him again was fun, but it can't top that.


GravatarNot too complicated? Never made scones.
V for Virginia


Very simple.


GravatarDr. Phil is no more a psychologist than mimi is symmetrical.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger

yeah, but he's rich.

they should fuck'n yank his license..


GravatarOK. I want to watch the Pitt game.

We might actually win. Later.


Gravataroh & we used butter for the 'shortening.'


GravatarAnd here let me say the obligatory, "poor auld sod."


Gravatarand jdw -- that was awesome.


GravatarIsn't Draco pining for the fjords?


GravatarNTodd, I sent you mail.

LYING SNAKE!


GravatarLYING SNAKE!

Not lying. Will resend.


GravatarLYING SNAKE!
NTodd


We know where you livesssssssssss


GravatarRemember: I'm much nicer in person. Ask anybody. - NTodd

The basline you establish here makes it far too plausible.


GravatarIsn't Draco pining for the fjords?

No, he's just resting. Shagged out after a long post about his bleeding beak.


Gravatar"You need to double space that."



GravatarRemember: I'm much nicer in person. Ask anybody. - NTodd

The basline you establish here makes it far too plausible.


I excel at setting the bar extremely low. It's by design.

Fucker.


GravatarMy absolute favorite quote from Draco was,

Hello? Is anybody there? I can't see anything.

I mean, him telling me that he'd been informed behind the scenes that I was a troll and never to speak to him again was fun, but it can't top that.
V for Virginia


Does anybody like me?

Seriously, anybody?


GravatarNo, he's just resting. Shagged out after a long post about his bleeding beak.
NTodd


Well, who nailed his hands to the keyboard?


Gravatar"and jdw -- that was awesome."

i'm an awesome man.


GravatarI sent him the recipe (yeah, he's right here, we're geeks). I'd use butter, too.

Thanks!


GravatarThe basline you establish here makes it far too plausible.
bo |


That's funny.

People: I know I should know this, and I really did try to google, but how the hell do you make the laughing smiley? (better yet: anyone have the link to all the codes?) Much thanks.


Gravatargo PITT!


Gravataroh & we used butter for the 'shortening.'
whiskey girl


'The Shortening'

Worst installment of The Highlander. Ever.


GravatarWell, who nailed his hands to the keyboard?

He did. Should he see a doctor for it, or would it be okay if he just bleeds all over the keys?

Oh, I'm feeling dizzy. I think I'll just lie down for a bit...


Gravatar: l o l :

no spaces.


Gravatarlaughy is colon + "lol" + colon


GravatarSpeaking of snakes, early auditions for Snakes on a Plane.


GravatarWhat do we do if those Vikings get angry and start hacking apart our bodies again?


Gravatar"Should he see a doctor for it,"

how's he gonna open the door?


GravatarI'm pretty sure that Draco died.


Gravatar'The Shortening'

Worst installment of The Highlander. Ever.


Yeah, but the Raven chick was in it, so I enjoyed the epi.


GravatarIraqi capital fears an epidemic if stricken sewerage system collapses as the rainy season arrives

Baghdad is facing a 'catastrophe' with cases of cholera rising sharply in the past three weeks to more than 100, strengthening fears that poor sanitation and the imminent rainy season could create an epidemic.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/w...src=rss& feed=12

Heckuva job, motherfuckers.
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Gravatarthank you jdw & JR



GravatarI'm pretty sure that Draco died.
Echidne


Frankly, I'm not sure that Draco existed.


Gravatari cant figure out what the issue is re the hrc genral asking a question at the debate. can someone help me? whats the big deal?


GravatarSmilies:

http://www.haloscan.com/help/ Ava...vailableSmileys


GravatarI'm pretty sure that Draco died.

I am, too.

But it's funny that we have to even wonder...


GravatarArgh, I just got off a few hours ago, and just woke up. After having a very long work week of being in the trenches of the AS9100 wars.


GravatarIraq has a rainy season?
Atlantans, eat your hearts out.


Gravatar
Frankly, I'm not sure that Draco existed.


I am. Based on e-mails I got from him, including his pic, and IP tracking. Plus the projected personality.

I do not subscribe to the Single Troll Using A Proxy Theory, despite what Arlen Specter says...


Gravatarthank you aangus.


GravatarPITT just got robbed. fuck me.


GravatarIt's been raining a little here in AZ. There's 1.6" of rain sitting in my rain gage from the last couple days.


Gravatara very long work week of being in the trenches of the AS9100 wars.

Better than an ISO9001 war.


Gravatar;lol;

later, unless mr. smiley fails to appear.

remember, be nice.


GravatarEvening, just stopped in for a minute. We sent to see Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. Interesting.

Anyways, saw the Durham thread, and just want to say one thing. Part of the reason Durham is in such deep shit, while other adjacent counties are not in as seriously dire straits, is that they fucking refused to implement water restrictions months ago. Orange County (where Chapel Hill/ Carrboro is) banned pretty much everything (including shutting down the local do it yourself car washes) AND raised its rates months ago, so our water usage dropped dramatically.

Duke was an especially bad offender. They were still watering athletic fields like a month ago. Students were starting to hold protests.


Gravatari cant figure out what the issue is re the hrc genral asking a question at the debate. can someone help me? whats the big deal?
euphronius

As the General said, "That's what Repubic's do".


GravatarI do not subscribe to the Single Troll Using A Proxy Theory, despite what Arlen Specter says...
NTodd.


Oh, I'm not talking the single troll theory. But that doesn't prove that anything about Draco was actualy there, if you get my drift.


GravatarFrankly, I'm not sure that Draco existed.
JR, kerosene and a match


No, he did, and he did die. I'm actually remembering him fondly right at the moment. He had some, er, issues, but I"m sure he was a good person and he seems to have been a creative guy, too.


GravatarSnake Chick has beanie mail back.


GravatarBetter than an ISO9001 war.

You can be sure it would be well documented.


GravatarI do not subscribe to the Single Troll Using A Proxy Theory, despite what Arlen Specter says...
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


Generally, neither do I. But I'm still convinced that Econ 102 = Live Free or Die.


Gravatarfuck mr. smiley.

he never did nuth'n for me.

no if i could remember mr. rockets...


Gravatarthat doesn't prove that anything about Draco was actualy there, if you get my drift.

True, but I'm convinced he was real.

The various sockies, on the other hand...


GravatarAnd a response to mr. pantless


GravatarI'm still convinced that Econ 102 = Live Free or Die.

Certainly seems to be a warranted belief. I sure do hate "both" of them with the heat of 10 thousand tofu suns.


Gravatar'The Shortening'

Worst installment of The Highlander. Ever.
- geor3ge

More than 8" cut?


GravatarDraco(whoever he was)& I shared a taste for African music, and that was real.


GravatarBut I'm still convinced that Econ 102 = Live Free or Die.
geor3ge

I'm certain he isn't.
LfoD could not spell his way out of a paper bag. Not one post w/o typo.
econ is vastly superior in that regard, so much so as to disqualify him as lfod imho.


GravatarI think Draco was real, though he posted here later under another name for a while. He would always write about movies or about something he was watching or had just read and his style was pretty easy to spot.


GravatarIt's been raining a little here in AZ. There's 1.6" of rain sitting in my rain gage from the last couple days.
Doug

Please, Please send it up here. They've predicted rain for the last 2 days, it's hard to do when it's sunny & 55.


GravatarWe were told he was dead by a know asshole, as well.


GravatarHi, euphronius.

From their point of view, it's their club and they get to choose who their candidate is, so they get to pick who asks the questions.

Everyone is more shocked, I suspect, because they've gotten used to the idea of the preznit only speaking to hand-picked citizens loyal to the partei, and keeping dissenters from harshing his decider buzz.

Isn't that SICK?

BTW, the guy seems to be a registered rethug, so fuck 'em sideways, anyway.


GravatarGenerally, neither do I. But I'm still convinced that Econ 102 = Live Free or Die. - geor3ge

Econ 102 is a different flavor of stupid.


GravatarBut I'm still convinced that Econ 102 = Live Free or Die.
geor3ge


I'm liking the Ted Baiamonte theory.


GravatarIMO


GravatarGenerally, neither do I. But I'm still convinced that Econ 102 = Live Free or Die. - geor3ge

I doubt it. Econ102 is into teaching us.


GravatarAnyway, my feet are getting cold, so I'm going to make nice with a hot water bottle.

G'night, flittermice.


GravatarSpace. That's the name Draco used later, if I remember correctly.


GravatarI sure do hate "both" of them with the heat of 10 thousand tofu suns.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


D00d, so not worth the energy. In either case.

LfoD could not spell his way out of a paper bag. Not one post w/o typo.
econ is vastly superior in that regard, so much so as to disqualify him as lfod imho.

ErinPDX


Honestly, I don't remember the typos. I'll take your work for it, though.


GravatarBetter than an ISO9001 war.

It is ISO-9K, just modified for aerospace. More not less paperwork, more precision. Wads of details. Thank DOG, I can speed read prints, paperwork, specifications, procedures, protocals...

Here's one of the 'smaller' issues.
I have to tell the plant workers, designers, and engineers, that they have to modify their work or process to amounts that can not been seen or measured with the naked eye.

It's what the customers want, what some large pending customers want and what management wants. Difficult to explain sometimes why the product is not right.


GravatarI wonder if you people will believe it when NTodd's Pa posts that I'm dead.


GravatarMaybe Econ 102 is Zod. Same pattern of engagement >> picking fights>> you're all just an echo chamber.


Gravatar"Tiny specks on the map, these Norwegian towns are links in a chain of misery that stretches from insolvent homeowners in California to the state treasury of Maine, and from regional banks in Germany to the mightiest names on Wall Street."


"It's a world of laughter, a world of tears,

It's a world of hopes and a world of fears;

There's so much that we share,

That it's time we're aware

It's a small world after all.

It's a small world after all,

It's a small world after all,

It's a small world after all,

It's a small, small world."


Gravatar'night, JR.


GravatarSpace. That's the name Draco used later, if I remember correctly.

Yes.


Gravatargood night & cozy toes, JR.


GravatarI wonder if you people will believe it when NTodd's Pa posts that I'm dead.

You have to give him a safe word to include.


GravatarMaybe Econ 102 is Zod. Same pattern of engagement >> picking fights>> you're all just an echo chamber.

Zod did always threaten to come back as somebody else. But he always says we'd like the nick for a while until he became a dick again. I've never liked Econ 102.


Gravatardraco, i always thought he was a she, i'm always off on that, was a sensitive soul.

a pisser and a moaner to be sure.

people aren't perfect, some are even less perfect than others.

but that's sort of relative.


GravatarI'm going to leave and come back as a troll.

I want to be remembered!!


Gravatarpeople aren't perfect, some are even less perfect than others.


I'm the poster child for this!


Gravatarin fact, if anything, i'd accuse duane v of being lfod


GravatarI've never liked Econ 102.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


I've been scarce lately, but I've gotta say I disliked him/her instantly.


GravatarI much prefer a pisser and a moaner and even a troll to someone who thinks killing thousands of people is nothing.


Gravatar"
I want to be remembered!!
SteveNS"

You need a catch phrase like Gordy or such.


GravatarI want to be remembered!!
SteveNS"


Leave your kidneys for transplanting. That way you still live.


GravatarI'm going to leave and come back as a troll.

I want to be remembered!!
SteveNS


Don't bother--my memory is shot either way.


though you did make me laugh today, and now i can show you:


GravatarLeave your kidneys for transplanting. That way you still live.
Echidne


I'm entertaining offers for all organs.


GravatarPlease don't bury me down in the cold, cold ground
I'd rather have them cut me up and pass me all around
Throw my brain in the hurricane, give the blind my eyes
And the deaf can have both of my ears if they don't mind the size.


GravatarGood evening, all.

A bit of snowbound catblogging from the far north.


GravatarLeave your kidneys for transplanting. That way you still live.
Echidne


Indeed. Especially if you transfer your conciousness to your kidneys before you die. That way you can control your host's renal system for years of innocent fun.


GravatarThanks, wg!



GravatarI'm entertaining offers for all organs.
SteveNS


but are your organs entertaining?


GravatarHmm, I should write that movie.


GravatarAhhh, Drinking a large mug of strong black coffee with a shot of whiskey, and a couple teaspoons of raw Mexican sugar.


GravatarI much prefer a pisser and a moaner and even a troll to someone who thinks killing thousands of people is nothing.
Echidne


I was just watching Bill Moyers' doco on the run-up to the war tonight. Talk about opening up old wounds. It really put my long-standing hatred of the punditocracy into sharp relief.


Gravatar
A bit of snowbound catblogging from the far north.
rorschach


They only want to know what the snow is until they find out, I'll bet.

Heya, sugar!


GravatarEspecially if you transfer your conciousness to your kidneys before you die. That way you can control your host's renal system for years of innocent fun.

That way urine charge.


GravatarYou have to give him a safe word to include.

It will either be 'FLŰGGĹƏNK∂€ČHIŚβŘL∫ĘN' or 'bacon.'


Gravatarbut are your organs entertaining?
whiskey girl


Pancreas Tour '08

Coming soon to a comedy club near you!


GravatarI'm entertaining offers for all organs.
SteveNS


hmm...


Gravatar"We were told he was dead by a know asshole, as well."

shut up you stinkass hetero puke bacteria.


GravatarHey, V!

Yes, in fact the cats have shown a remarkable reluctance to try charging out the door, as was their wont in Austin.


GravatarMeanwhile as the inventor of a "new psychology" is being hailed to-day the French poet M. Jules Romains, founder of the École Unanimiste and author of a singular little prose novel called La Mart d'un Quelqn'un—in English, The Death of a Nobody. The hero of this novel, a pensioned railroad engineer, who is a widower living by himself in Paris, dies in the first dozen pages. But as he has a soul, and this soul goes on residing somewhere, the author himself goes on analysing it wherever he happens to find it—in individuals and in groups and companies of individuals, who recreate the late M. Jacques Godard by thinking of him, or rather thinking him. The Death of a Nobody has been hailed as, more than any other book ever written, enforcing a conviction of human solidarity. et, no sooner had he died than he began to act upon people who had hardly known him, scarcely seen him, in life—his fellow-tenants, the families of his fellow-members in a mutual benefit society, and old friends and neighbours in a far-off mountain village, of whom he had lost sight since half a century. And yet, as the same critic points out, this insistence upon universal solidarity by no means diminishes the importance of personal forces, "since it prolongs, on the contrary, their influence in the social group."

http://books.google.com/books? id...ZxyG0#PPA131,M1
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GravatarThere is a great fairy tale at wing nut daily about the pres election:

Once upon a time in the dark days of the great slaughter, there was a determined search for a king who would bring the slaughter to an end.
The wicked reigned in both houses of the shadowy Council, and black-robed tyrants ruled the land. The slaughter continued and the good people mourned. They fought and debated, dissented and deplored for three long dreary decades until their voices grew hoarse. They were disappointed and weary and a little bit leery, but their goal they saw clearly: to shield and not yield until all babies were protected from slaughter...

Three contenders stepped forth against the evil Queen of Slaughter: Prince Slay-'Em, the Sheriff of Floppingham and Friar Mike, in that order...

Then Sir Chuck of Norris rode forth pushing the earth down before him. Now the way would be paved! "I'll watch the border, just get things in order!"

He lowered his sword and knighted Friar Mike, "I give you Sir Mike-A-Lot who we all Like a lot! He's the only one we can trust to slay the Slaughter Dragon and the wicked Slaughter Queen. Now that he's lean, he's a fighting machine!"

http://www.wnd.com/news/ article....RTICLE_ID=58879


GravatarHi, rorschach! We don't cross paths much these days.


Gravatarhmm...
/Echidne

Wait a minute. You can not fry my liver or kidneys.


GravatarHmm, I should write that movie.
Arkenor


Include an intermission / pee break.


GravatarLeave your kidneys for transplanting. That way you still live.

Tried, but that bitch NTodd's Pa's Wife decided she didn't want mine.


GravatarHowdy, Karin!

It has indeed been quite a long while, has it not?

All is well, I hope?


GravatarHi ror! Snow for the first time! I envy your cats. It's fun.


GravatarWell, your Mom probably has heard stories about you being a little pisser when young. Didn't want to deal with your kidneys.


GravatarI'm the poster child for this!
V for Virginia

it's a group poster you know.

and wasn't i leaving?

he says in his best clint eastwood baritone, "now did i have 4 beers or was it 5 beers...?"


GravatarTo be serious for a moment, you've reminded me I better get to registering as a marrow donor.

I keep meaning to do it, but I'm always getting sidetracked.


GravatarDid you guys see this?

Government-sponsored cyberattacks on the rise, McAfee says (including the US Gov)
http://www.networkworld.com/ news...berattacks.html


Gravatar"he says in his best clint eastwood baritone,"

Interesting, watching "Pale Rider" at the moment.


GravatarYes, all is well. I've just been hanging with the morning crew here. sometimes I see comments you left on the threads in the wee hours.


GravatarHow's it going, ror?


GravatarInteresting, watching "Pale Rider" at the moment.

I like the girl in that. And it's a good flick.


GravatarI tried to donate the 10" of gut they removed a couple years ago, but had no takers.


GravatarTo be serious for a moment, you've reminded me I better get to registering as a marrow donor.

I keep meaning to do it, but I'm always getting sidetracked.


It's a good thing to do. A friend just donated in that program. She was very jittery about it but really wanted to try to help someone.


GravatarI was just watching Bill Moyers' doco on the run-up to the war tonight. Talk about opening up old wounds. It really put my long-standing hatred of the punditocracy into sharp relief.
geor3ge


They reran that on PBS not long ago, and I turned it on just in time to catch Moyers interviewing Punkinhedd. That fat fuck actually said, in response to Moyers' questioning how he could so blindly accept administration talking points: "I'm from Buffalo, I know who my sources are!"

I couldn't watch anymore.


GravatarI tried to donate the 10" of gut they removed a couple years ago, but had no takers.
Doug


I keep trying to pick up some extra cash as a breast-tissue donor, but I can't get any offers.


Gravatar"I tried to donate the 10" of gut they removed a couple years ago, but had no takers."

Bicycle tires have come a long way.


GravatarHey Echidne!

They are mesmerized. It's really fun to watch them run from window to window, ascertaining that, yes, snow is going on on all sides of the house.

We've got around 10 inches or so on the ground, and the snow started around noon.


Gravataranyone have an opinion about laughing gas--specifically, should i let the dentist use it for my 7yo?


GravatarGovernment-sponsored cyberattacks on the rise, McAfee says (including the US Gov)
http://www.networkworld.com/ news...berattacks.html


Smirking Chimp website is down due to 'malicious hacking'
http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2386327

Hmmm ...
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GravatarBicycle tires have come a long way.

They still could have made violin strings out of it. Gut strings are still the best to play, they sound better.


GravatarAll is well, geor3ge. End of semester scramble and all that. How're you?


Gravataranyone have an opinion about laughing gas--specifically, should i let the dentist use it for my 7yo?
whiskey girl


Did you want her to turn out like me?


GravatarThat fat fuck actually said, in response to Moyers' questioning how he could so blindly accept administration talking points: "I'm from Buffalo, I know who my sources are!"

I'm so over that idiot, and his Buffalo Bills, and his saintly dad, that I could shit a brick.


GravatarThey are mesmerized. It's really fun to watch them run from window to window, ascertaining that, yes, snow is going on on all sides of the house.

My dog did that the first year, too. She may have come from some other part of the country. It was funny because she had to go and stand on her hindlegs at all windows, including those to the back.


Gravatar"We've got around 10 inches or so on the ground,"

holy shit? where, if you don't mind me asking??


GravatarDid you want her to turn out like me?
V for Virginia |


Um...


Gravatarjdw,

In Oshkosh, a few blocks off Lake Winnebago.


Gravatar"I like the girl in that. And it's a good flick."

Thought I had seen it and then realized I kept confusing it with "High Plains Drifter".

John Russell Vs. Clint Eastwood. Pretty cool. In terms of face offs, only thing that matches it would be his facing off Lee Van Cleef.


GravatarThey are mesmerized. It's really fun to watch them run from window to window, ascertaining that, yes, snow is going on on all sides of the house.

My stupid cats still think that if they go out a different door, the snow won't be there.


Gravataranyone have an opinion about laughing gas


There must be a designated driver.
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GravatarI keep trying to pick up some extra cash as a breast-tissue donor, but I can't get any offers

You could tell potential recipients, that they'd have breasts that would grow.

/runs from fist.


GravatarDid you want her to turn out like me?
V for Virginia |

Um...
whiskey girl


That's what I'm sayin'.

I really don't know about the safety issue, and it might matter what kind of person she is; if she's really nervous it could help a little. Or she could hate it. I didn't have it at that age, but they were using leeches then.


Gravataranyone have an opinion about laughing gas

It would have been nice when I was six and got drilled without anything.


GravatarI'm so over that idiot, and his Buffalo Bills, and his saintly dad, that I could shit a brick.
MP |


He did his nth Greatest Generation Show on his MSNBC Circle Jerk, and was expressing pie-eyed, moon-faced rapture at the notion that "guys like my dad, just kids, won the war and came home and built this country." I was wishing I was there so I could say, that's right, they got their draft cards, then they punched time cards. He brings out the worst in me.


Gravatar"anyone have an opinion about laughing gas--specifically, should i let the dentist use it for my 7yo?
whiskey girl"

yes. i was about 12 when i got my first cavity, and my fucking sadist dentist told my mom he could fill it without novacain and that kids didn't feel very much pain. the LYING FUCKFACE COCKSUCKER!


Gravataranyone have an opinion about laughing gas--specifically, should i let the dentist use it for my 7yo?
whiskey girl


It should be fine, unless your dentist is Dr. Benway.

Then all bets are off.


GravatarThat fat fuck actually said, in response to Moyers' questioning how he could so blindly accept administration talking points: "I'm from Buffalo, I know who my sources are!"

I couldn't watch anymore.
Jim, Collieresque | 12.01.07 - 10:31 pm |


Funny. That's about the same point I nearly through a boot at the teevee. Shit, I'm a simple piano player who can barely count to four. How is it I saw through administration bullshit and our nation's elite media fell for it from 'hello'.


GravatarMy freaking dogs like to run out the dog door in the back and scratch at the front door to be let in. You sit down,
SCRAAATTCCCHHH. let the mutts in, and sit back down. SCRAAATTCCCHHH, and again, all day and night.


GravatarYou could tell potential recipients, that they'd have breasts that would grow.

/runs from fist.
Doug


Grrrrrrrrr.

They can have theirs shortened too, ya know!


GravatarIn Oshkosh,

by gosh.


GravatarI see Echidne and jdw both shared my experience with not getting any anesthesia for dental work as a child.

It fucked me up for good as far as the dentist is concerned.


GravatarHmm, I also had a childhood dentist who never gave any novacaine. I detect a trend here.


Gravatarthanks, everyone. it looks like it's safe, but it troubles me, just the same.


Gravatargoing thru husb's old albums
my new favorite = Gentle Giant


Gravataranyone have an opinion about laughing gas--specifically, should i let the dentist use it for my 7yo?
whiskey girl


Try some Redi-whip on the kid. Just don't follow directions and hold the can upside down. They use Nitrous as a propellant. Give 'em a couple of hits and see how they like it. But if they are going to drill, ask for novacaine.


GravatarI do think it's safe, but boy! am I ever not a doctor!


Gravatar"It fucked me up for good as far as the dentist is concerned."

yup. i swear these bastards are sick.


GravatarIt fucked me up for good as far as the dentist is concerned.

Yes. I once spent two hours in that chair, having three cavities filled without breaks and no novacaine. It took ten years with a great dentist to get over the phobia.


Gravatarthanks, everyone. it looks like it's safe, but it troubles me, just the same.
whiskey girl


Of course it's safe. It's a few nitrogen and oxygen molecules.


GravatarWhiskey, I'd go with novocaine.  And don't let them use oracaine--it contains ephinephrine and it makes your heart race like crazy.


GravatarHmm, I also had a childhood dentist who never gave any novacaine. I detect a trend here.
Karin


Same here. You know, thinking back, a well timed punt to the sack may have changed his patient pain management philosophy.


Gravatarc'mon PITT!!!!


Gravataranyone have an opinion about laughing gas--specifically, should i let the dentist use it for my 7yo?

This is an odd answer, but it depends on the altitude your dentist's office is at. At sea level, nitrous can produce twilight sleep without also displacing enough oxygen to produce brain hypoxia.
At higher altitudes, and not that much higher than sea level the dentist will be giving you a hypoxic gas mixture to be able to alleviate much pain. The books I have that have the partial pressure tables I think are somewhere in deep storage in a box in the back of one of my sheds, so I can't clarify this much further. Ask the good Dr wombat (AKA Prof and law student), if you don't think I'm right. He'd probably be aware of this issue.


GravatarNovocaine, nitrous - why not both? And a blindfold.
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GravatarMy childhood dentist also used no novocaine. I think that was common practice in the 60s


GravatarLaughing gas (nitrous oxide) will sometimes give a kid a paradoxical response. There's no excuse, none at all, not to use lidocaine, though, which, if you numb the buccal mucosa through which you inject, hardly hurts at all even to administer if done well.


GravatarGeronimo Nietzsche.


Gravataranyone have an opinion about laughing gas

I loved whippets in college. And I had laughing gas before novacaine when I was getting some teeth out as a kid. Man, that was trippy.


GravatarYes. I once spent two hours in that chair, having three cavities filled without breaks and no novacaine. It took ten years with a great dentist to get over the phobia.
Echidne


First they named me Ebenezer. Then they took me too a dentist who wouldn't give 'caine to kids. Boy, am I a mess!


GravatarIn any case the variant of Novocain dentists now use seems to work better. I've always had teeth that hurt like hell when drilled or any other work is done, and my present dentist seems to be able to reduce the pain to almost nil except for the fsking shot they have to use to administer it.


GravatarIt would have been nice when I was six and got drilled without anything.
Echidne

you too? Evil bastard did root canals w/o any deadening. Even drilled a couple of holes through my jawbone. Guess that's what good insurance bought you back then.


GravatarLaughing gas (nitrous oxide) will sometimes give a kid a paradoxical response.

It never worked for me. Just made me anxious and sweaty, but it's not dangerous. It just won't help at the dentist.


GravatarI had a lot of dental work done as a child with novacaine but no nitrous oxide. Now I have serious dental phobia and the dentist has to max out the gas and let me sit breathing it for 15 to 20 minutes before he can do anything - including a teeth cleaning. Otherwise I clench the chair and my back spasms.

If a pediatrician and dentist both think its safe, let your child have the gas. It may prevent a lot of anxiety now AND years later.


GravatarWhen the hell did Nancy become a GOPissant puppet?

When the mercenaries broke into her house, pointed a gun at her head and said "Careful, bitch; careful."


Gravatar"i was about 12 when i got my first cavity, and my fucking sadist dentist told my mom he could fill it without novacain and that kids didn't feel very much pain. the LYING FUCKFACE COCKSUCKER!"

My dentist told me he'd stop if i raided my hand to tell him it hurt. I did - he didn't - and then the dumb shit put a finger within reach of my teeth.

You may guess the rest - he was not happy, neither was my mother, but next time my hand was raised asshole stopped drillin betcherass.


GravatarFirst they named me Ebenezer. Then they took me too a dentist who wouldn't give 'caine to kids. Boy, am I a mess!

Can't do anything about the dental pain but you could now be called Chuck.


GravatarDoug: didn't know about that; not my line of work. I do know that pedi anaesthesia is a bit of an art form unto itself, that kids sometimes get paradoxical responses.


GravatarDon't ever let the doctors do a spinal tap.


Gravatar"I loved whippets in college.

ah yes. good times - GOOD times


Gravatarfyi: the novacaine does usually have epinephrine in it because it makes the pain killing effect last much longer. My elderly mother can only have novacaine without the epinephrine because the epi makes her heart race, but not everyone has that reaction. (It causes no problem for me or my brother or sister.)


GravatarWell, there you go. Step one of marrow registration done!

So, today wasn't a total waste.

And if I get the driveway shovelled in the next 16 minutes that'll be TWO things I got done today.


GravatarWhen the hell did Nancy become a GOPissant puppet?

When the mercenaries broke into her house, pointed a gun at her head and said "Careful, bitch; careful."


Speaking of which, I'm only four referrals ahead of that Damned Korby. I want to win a free trip to the Code Pink house for February, so all you bitches gotta sign the holiday peace pledge and forward the fucking thing to all your friends.

Jesus fuck.


GravatarEvil bastard did root canals w/o any deadening.

Now that is torture. I had a tightwad boyfriend once who went to the dental school for a root canal and refused to pay extra for anaesthesia. The student did something wrong and they had to redo everything, him feeling it all.


GravatarInteresting, watching "Pale Rider" at the moment.
EkCenTriK

turns out, clint is not really a bad actor.

on some level i pretty much like all his movies.

but he is a republican, and part owner of the famous Pebble Beach golf course...

my buddy, who caddies there, says he's a real asshole. but that's the way it is when the rich drive the poor.


GravatarCan't do anything about the dental pain but you could now be called Chuck.
Echidne


Chuck Splooge? After Christmas, maybe.


GravatarI've had multiple root canals, alas, all by good guys. Excellent anaesthesia, save for one very short, quite manageable bit of pain. Usually had 'em for urgent cause (toothache); felt like kissing him when the block went in. Only real pain I had was in the jaw afterwards, maintaining the position.

Found their reputation as excruciatingly painful quite overblown.


Gravatarthis is the most rigged football game i've ever seen

a fucking disgrace.


Gravatari don't know what to do--this parenting is hard work!

i just have a funny feeling the gas would make it worse for her.


GravatarAh, whippets. I recall the days when the New Orleans gutters were clogged with small metal ovals...


Gravatar"my buddy, who caddies there, says he's a real asshole. but that's the way it is when the rich drive the poor."

That's a shame.


GravatarJesus fuck.
NTodd


Sorry man, without a zip code I'm useless to you.

But if I see this "Korby" I'll push him down and threaten him.

It's what Code Pink would want, anyway.


Gravatari just have a funny feeling the gas would make it worse for her.
whiskey girl | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:50 pm | #


?


GravatarWVa's unis make them look like sherbet popsicles.


Gravatari just have a funny feeling the gas would make it worse for her.

Novocaine doesn't really hurt me at all, and in any case, it's just a small jab. Is there some reason the dentist wants something more?


GravatarWhiskey girl - ask the dentist what percentage of children have bad reactions and what they involve. I am guessing it is a small percentage. Also ask how any reaction is handled.


GravatarI'm shocked to discover that dentists just weren't using anesthesia on kids when we were kids. That was dreadful.

Whazzup wid dat?

Did they really think children didn't feel pain?


GravatarNovocaine, nitrous, and that topical anesthetic they use to deaden the puncture site, lots of it and plenty of time to aoak in.
-


GravatarGotta disagree. The docs want to do a spinal tap, it's usually for a damned good reason and you should bloody well let 'em. Ignorance about the stuff the spinal tap tells them can kill, quickly.


Gravatar(shhhh)

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/p...an/ Oct_23.shtml


GravatarI've had to tell them to turn the nitrous down, whiskey. It can make me a little paranoid, but I'm a very anxious type.


GravatarClint is a libertarian. Many of them are fed up with the GOP (who isn't?). He may still be a bastard to work for.


Eastwood's no-nonsense libertarian streak became newsworthy in 1986 when, bogged down by red tape when he wanted to expand his restaurant (Hog's Breath Inn) in Carmel, California, he announced that he was running for mayor. He won with a 72% landslide, and his two years as Mayor reduced the city's regulations, had sidewalks put in on city streets, and got a library annex built that city elders had been bickering about for decades. And then, in a move more politicians should emulate, he declined to run for a second term.

The Hog's Breath closed in 1999, but Eastwood still owns his movie company, a golf course, Tehama Clint sportswear, and Pale Rider Ale. Eastwood sponsors the Clint Eastwood Youth Program, providing drug, alcohol, and mental health treatment for kids in and around Carmel.


http://www.nndb.com/people/849/0.../849/000022783/


GravatarSorry man, without a zip code I'm useless to you.

You have my permission to use 32174.


GravatarSome folk don't like the mask, the smell, the feeling of losing control. It's not for everybody.


GravatarIf you were in So Az, I could give you a referal to my Dentist. My son drove me there one time when I was having a tooth extraction (which went well considering everything). He was talking to the folks sitting in the waiting room. He said people who'd lived here from before were flying in from all over the country to see this guy. He's gentle, and seems to have crafty arty hands (good technique) while working on your teeth. This is a good thing in a dentist.


Gravatarfor my decaying molar i went to my Gen. Practitioner and demanded Percocet.

she only gave me Tylenol 3, but hey, it's something, and at least i tried.

bitch.


GravatarDid they really think children didn't feel pain?
V for Virginia


Very common. My father was a physician, too.


GravatarWhat were you doing with a tightwad boyfriend, Echidne? There's nothing I hate worse.


GravatarWhat were you doing with a tightwad boyfriend, Echidne? There's nothing I hate worse.

He was as handsome as a young god.


GravatarYou have my permission to use 32174.

Excellent. Thanks, V!

I was going to use 90210, but... ecchh.


GravatarNovocaine doesn't really hurt me at all, and in any case, it's just a small jab. Is there some reason the dentist wants something more?

Now they also have techniques to make that jab pretty much nothing. I was astonished when I had gum surgery and there was no pain at all, even with the shots. Periodontist did this shaking thing on my lips that made them totally immune to the pain of even the needle...


Gravatar"What were you doing with a tightwad boyfriend, Echidne? There's nothing I hate worse."

I was never a tightwad boyfriend. A poor excuse for one maybe...


GravatarNTodd -- is my full name going to get posted somewhere accessible to the scum of the earth?

Not necessarily a deal-breaker, just curious.


GravatarProfWombat, first the bad news:  I was feeling worse this morning and dragged myself to urgent care.  I have pneumonia.

Now for the good news:  I think brandy has healing properties.


GravatarIs there some reason the dentist wants something more?
Echidne


She had a little procedure yesterday--he applied a sealant to some teeth (the poor kid's got weak enamel). I think she just misread the scene: he's jokey as a way to help kids relax & so she was real chatty. He thinks she's jumpy and so needs something extra for a filling procedure. But I think she was just playing along yesterday and could handle things with just novocaine.

I guess because I've never had gas, I'm afraid of it. And because she had an unexplained seizure after a vaccination (just once, when she was one), I don't want to mess with her brain more than I have to.


GravatarOn a lighter note, as mayor he repealed a municipal law that forbade anyone to eat ice cream on the sidewalk....

Although Eastwood has been registered as a Republican since 1951 and supported Richard Nixon's 1968 presidential campaign, he describes himself as a libertarian. He says his philosophy is "Everyone leaves everyone else alone".[15] He voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger as Governor of California in the 2003 recall election, and again in 2006.

Eastwood jokingly threatened to kill Michael Moore at the National Board of Review awards dinner in January 2005. Eastwood was quoted as saying "Michael Moore and I actually have a lot in common, we both appreciate living in a country where there's free expression... but, Michael, if you ever show up at my front door with a camera - I'll kill you." This was presumably in reference to Moore's controversial interview with Eastwood's friend Charlton Heston in the movie Bowling for Columbine.


Butthead.


Gravatargosh, I would rather have dinner out with a wingnut, as long as he tipped the waitstaff properly.


Gravatar"It can make me a little paranoid, but I'm a very anxious type."

the last time i had it i saw god.

it was an extraction and when the doc brought the hook, i just laughed.

when he started prying it out, i laughed.

when it shattered and the guy about fell on his ass, i laughed.

fucking awesome


GravatarGet better soon, Sallyh!

Can't neglect your own welfare while looking after others.


GravatarTylenol # 3 doesn't work much better than over the counter meds like ibuprofen and naproxen. Percocet is a significantly better pain med, but has the highest addiction/abuse potential of all of 'em save OxyContin. My experience was that if you prescribed Percocet for someone in pain, of a limited duration, while fixing the painful problem, you never run into abuse issues. But if you use it for chronic pain, say, for someone with a bad back, it can be tough.


Gravatargosh, I would rather have dinner out with a wingnut, as long as he tipped the waitstaff properly.

Well, that's an American thing. Finns always go Dutch in any case.


GravatarNow they also have techniques

I still feel it. Ouwwwweeee!

I still don't want nitrous, cause we are at about 3 to 4 thousand feet above sea level. With the injection local anthesia I haven't felt any pain beyond that point. Well other than one twinge when a wisdom tooth that was crappy on top but had healthy roots, had it's nerve snapped during the removal.

BoinK!


Gravatardid this shaking thing on my lips

They call that "massage".


GravatarNow for the good news: I think brandy has healing properties.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


I'm telling ya, my personal theory is that there's not a bug that can tolerate a sufficiently high blood alcohol level.

And I'm not dead, so that's proof right there.


Gravatarsallyh: love ya, but ya gotta stop smoking, kiddo. It's time...


GravatarPain killers are an area I know very little about. Sometimes I worry what will happen when I need one, because I have no idea if I'm sensitive or anything. All I've ever taken is some aspirin.


GravatarI was going to use 90210, but... ecchh.

LEAVE IT!


GravatarSallyh, take good care of yourself.
What did the doc recommend?


GravatarFinns always go Dutch in any case.
Echidne | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 11:00 pm | #


Do the Dutch, then, go Finn?


GravatarWOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!


YEEEAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!


PITT WINS!!!!!!


GravatarBack off.


GravatarHell, I still haven't gotten over the dentist phobia caused by Dr. Shanteau and his big ol' drill and his big ol' hands in my little 6-year-old mouth.


GravatarHey Hoople Heads!!

Suck.On.This.


GravatarDo the Dutch, then, go Finn?

Ja?


GravatarThat's a shame.
EkCenTriK

maybe not. my buddy is a very cynical, mean bastard. i'm just saying his perceptions may be colored by the disparity in their relative income status.

hey, i met chuck norris and christie brinkley at the same time. i certainly agree with her politics, and certainly disagree with his. yet, she was shallow and vain, and he was warm and engaging.

in the end "it's life, and life only."


GravatarBye WVU.


GravatarWhen I had a root canal, they gave me Vicodin. I needed half, and threw what was left away cause that shit just worked toooo well......


Gravatarsallyh: love ya, but ya gotta stop smoking, kiddo. It's time...
ProfWombat


Toughest addiction to kick.


GravatarNitrous is God.


GravatarPitt wins.


Gravatarwhiskey girl -- then ask him to do without it and make the switch if she seems to need it.


GravatarApparently nobody wants to win the BCS.


GravatarLEAVE IT!

I went with V for Virginia's ZIP instead.

I can go back as "Brandon Walsh" and use 90210 if you'd like, but that seems like cheating.


GravatarI needed half, and threw what was left away cause that shit just worked toooo well......
Jim, Collieresque | 12.01.07 - 11:03 pm | #


Now that's just drug abuse, plain and simple.


Gravatar"Romanian director Cristian Mungiu's "4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days" won the best film prize Saturday at the 20th annual European Film Awards in Berlin.

The low-budget production, a harrowing film about illegal abortion in communist-era Romania, had already taken the top award earlier this year at the Cannes Film Festival.

"I'm very honored by the award," said Mungiu, who also took the best director award for the film."


GravatarAnyone want to buy a couch real cheap?

Never been burnt.


GravatarProfWombat, haven't smoked in over a week.  Can't.


GravatarNTodd -- is my full name going to get posted somewhere accessible to the scum of the earth?

Um...I don't think so? Perhaps I missed something somewhere. Why are we talking about this? And where's my eclair?


GravatarOn Tuesday morning I'm having a bridge to nowhere put in my mouth to fix a gap.

After it's built, hopefully there won't be any auto traffic on it.


Gravatarfucking internet is acting weird for me tonight. goddamit.


GravatarAin't noone sleeping with their sister here tonight.


GravatarI needed half, and threw what was left away cause that shit just worked toooo well......
Jim, Collieresque | 12.01.07 - 11:03 pm | #

Now that's just drug abuse, plain and simple.
rorschach


Well, it was either that kind or the other.

Good stuff, Maynard.


GravatarI went with V for Virginia's ZIP instead.

Well, not quite. But that's fine


GravatarWOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!


YEEEAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!


PITT WINS!!!!!!
Gomez "

YESSSS!!!! Those REFS were the biggest HACKS I'VE EVER SEEN!

i swear they took $...


Gravatar"ProfWombat, haven't smoked in over a week. Can't."

that's how I kicked a 23 year 3 pack a day habit. best time to try I think


GravatarSallyH, at least stop smoking American ready made cigarettes. Full of additives. I make my own filter cigs from additive free tobacco and save hundreds of buck a month in the process. American cigs make me puke. Taste like crap.


GravatarYESSSS!!!! Those REFS were the biggest HACKS I'VE EVER SEEN!

i swear they took $...
jdw


They tried.


GravatarRor, I still have about 20 500mg vicoden, that are just sitting in my medicine cabinet. They probably date expire before I use them.


GravatarI am faster, funnier and better hung than anyone here.


GravatarI needed half, and threw what was left away cause that shit just worked toooo well......
Jim, Collieresque


I always wondered about pharmacists, when filling Vicoden scrips. They must be thinking "Oh this dude's about to have some fun."


Gravatar
YESSSS!!!! Those REFS were the biggest HACKS I'VE EVER SEEN!

i swear they took $...
jdw


I only saw the last few minutes but they were wretched just in that time.


GravatarNitrous seems to disrupt the continuity of consciousness in some way. You're there for every moment but you can't string them together. Time goes by faster and you don't remember much of anything afterward. And you're floating on this nice, tingly cloud.

At least that was my experience with it.


GravatarProfWombat, haven't smoked in over a week.  Can't.
A wonderful opportunity to quit and start an exercise regime.


GravatarThey call that "massage".

No, my doc and I didn't have sex.


Gravatarcitizen kane on TCM in about 1/2 hour (at least on the east coast)


Gravatarsallyh: good. Keep it up that way, one day at a time like they say. Sinus problems worth operating on, pneumonia, well, you get the idea. They cultured you, probably, have you on antibiotics, like that. Hopefully that'll suffice. They may want to cat scan your sinuses again, see if there's a reason for it all that needs fixing...

*slides glass of Armagnac down*


Gravatarsallyh: love ya, but ya gotta stop smoking, kiddo. It's time...
ProfWombat


Now is the time to quit. Try patches or even Wellbutrin when the urge comes back. Just don't start again. You are one week ahead of the game.


GravatarI am faster, funnier and better hung than anyone here.


Pffttttttt...

Two outa three ain't bad.


Gravatar"you're a great company"-Herbert Hoover's ghost to Countrywide


GravatarRor, I still have about 20 500mg vicoden, that are just sitting in my medicine cabinet. They probably date expire before I use them.
Doug | 12.01.07 - 11:06 pm | #


I can send you my address.

I'm here to help.


Gravatar"ProfWombat, haven't smoked in over a week. Can't."

I meant to C&P that.

Now is the time, SallyH.


GravatarNTodd -- I'm talking about your Code Pink thingy.

And . . . I know they're crap, but my BFF's mom had a bunch of frozen Sarah Lee mini-eclairs in the freezer in the garage where my working-and-smoking lair was, and they were absolutely wonderful, right out of the freezer.


GravatarA wonderful opportunity to quit and start an exercise regime.

Not when you have pneumonia.

Walking a bit is about all that should be attempted, though walking is good.

Sallyh, do what your doc recommends.


GravatarThere's a lot of really weird stuff about general anaesthesia. Xenon, for instance, is a good general anaesthetic, though it doesn't react chemically as would a conventional pharmaceutical...


GravatarWVY goes down. Mizzou about to go down (never should have been #1). Total BCS chaos. I love it.


GravatarRor, I still have about 20 500mg vicoden

500mg? That's a fucking horse pill.


GravatarI am faster, funnier and better hung than anyone here.
NTodd's Massive Ego | 12.01.07 - 11:07 pm | #


Ah, good, my Better Half has returned.


GravatarI needed half, and threw what was left away cause that shit just worked toooo well......
Jim, Collieresque | 12.01.07 - 11:03 pm | #

Now that's just drug abuse, plain and simple.
rorschach


That BASTARD!!!!


Gravatarer.. that should be WVU, of course


GravatarI can send you my address.

I'd be more likely to send them to Rush Limbaugh, to help him along.

Crush them into powder for him.


GravatarNo, my doc and I didn't have sex.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


Change doctors if the HMO allows it.


Gravatar...if Mizzou loses to Oklahoma, that loud explosion you'll next hear will be the BCS computers going critical trying to figure out which undeserving candidates get to play for the mythical national championship...


GravatarI'd be more likely to send them to Rush Limbaugh, to help him along.

Now you're just being mean.


GravatarShady McCoy win the game for Pitt,

I predicted this win last week, BTW.


GravatarAh, good, my Better Half has returned.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


I have been feeling fairly secure for the past 6 months, but tonight something is different.


GravatarI was a freshman the year Pitt won the championship in 76.


GravatarWhen my uncle was admitted to the hospital, in his late seventies, they gave him a sleeping pill and couldn't wake him up for two days. He had never taken anything for anything in all of his life. All medications were like sledgehammers. It was very hard.


Gravatar...if Mizzou loses to Oklahoma, that loud explosion you'll next hear will be the BCS computers going critical trying to figure out which undeserving candidates get to play for the mythical national championship...

Those loveable, underdog USC Trojans?


GravatarI'd be more likely to send them to Rush Limbaugh, to help him along.

Crush them into powder for him.
Doug


Noooo! I'll start a bidding war with Ror. Put them on E-bay.


GravatarWVU needs some XXX real fast.


GravatarI can name that troll in 2 comments!


GravatarI was a freshman the year Pitt won the championship in 76.
Gomez


Tony Dorsett was Pitt's tailback then, IIRC.


GravatarOhio State will be in the BCS final. Wow, that seemed unlikely a few weeks ago.


Gravatarcitizen kane on TCM in about 1/2 hour (at least on the east coast)
The stuff with the opera singer is a bore.


GravatarMizzouri is sloppy, and Oklahoma's coach is a complete jerk.

Where is my surrey with the fringe on top?


GravatarOhio State will be in the BCS final. Wow, that seemed unlikely a few weeks ago.
attaturk


If only they had you know who.


GravatarI'm getting the feeling that there are a number of football scrums being held at various athletic courts.


Gravatara dentist invented the electric chair.


GravatarGood evening.

I've got a great buzz going; as evidenced by my typing. And Zapette's listening to Yo La Tengo and the Arcade Fire.

It took me three minutes to type this...


Gravatar"I only saw the last few minutes but they were wretched just in that time."

they were like that the wholoe game.

i've never seen anything like it. it was so fake it was into professional wrestling territory..


GravatarThe only time I've ever had surgery (on my ankle), this past August, I didn't know that you're not supposed to ingest anything, absolutely nothing, before hand. I just took a few sips of water just before I got out of the car in the hospital parking garage because I was parched. When I told the anesthesiologist he just about slugged me. The guy was not big on bedside manner.


GravatarNTodd -- I'm talking about your Code Pink thingy.

Oh, that. They're cool. Bitches can keep a secret. And eclairs.

Fucking selfish bitches.


GravatarI feel like shovelling the driveway.

This is what my 2.5 hour "nap" has done. My sleep cycle is fucked.


GravatarI can name that troll in 2 comments!
V for Virginia


I'm going to stay with my earlier bet, and say this is its third nym.


Gravatari've never seen anything like it. it was so fake it was into professional wrestling territory..
jdw


The basketball refs are worse down there.


GravatarI knew a guy who was an anesthesiologist -- had a very calming peaceful presence and the sweetest smile you ever saw. He said he made a point of cultivating that for his patients (and here I quote) in case his is the last face they ever see.

Very thoughtful of him, I thought.


GravatarThe refs were crooked.

WVU was honest. They stunk.


GravatarSmoking is also a major complication for surgery.


GravatarYeah, they are horse pills, but my docs despite the fact that I'm doing so well think I should keep those handy just in case, to tide me over.

Never really took them pre-op and only took them for post op pain. I still keep a script filled.

It does crack me up when changing jobs in AZ that most the time (I haven't yet for this job) I get a pee test. I like telling the piss boys and girls working at those places (yes I do call them piss boy to their face) that I don't know why the hell they are testing me, I can legally use narcotics if I want.
(However I won't unless the pain demons start to torment me. They haven't yet)

It's white bread that's dangerous to me. Why don't they test for that?


GravatarI'm getting the feeling that there are a number of football scrums being held at various athletic courts.

Oh scrum, all ye faithful


GravatarOhio State will be in the BCS final. Wow, that seemed unlikely a few weeks ago.

I love the Bucks, and maybe it's better this way than a wire-to-wire #1 or some way other than backing in. Stupid, lazy pissants taking it all for granted.


GravatarIt's against anaesthesiologists' sacred creed to deal with any oral intake whatever; they fear aspiration pneumonia on induction, which can be nasty, even deadly. And they generally don't perfect much of a bedside manner. Their interviews with awake patients are formulaic fact gathering for the most part, and, of course, they do most of their work on sedated or asleep people.


GravatarOh, that. They're cool. Bitches can keep a secret. And eclairs.

Fucking selfish bitches.


If U haz eclairs, U should share.


GravatarWhen my uncle was admitted to the hospital, in his late seventies, they gave him a sleeping pill and couldn't wake him up for two days. He had never taken anything for anything in all of his life. All medications were like sledgehammers. It was very hard.
Echidne


Something similar happened to me once. It was a comedy of errors.


Gravatar"Those loveable, underdog USC Trojans?"

fuck the trojans. never heard so much bullshit about them today..."finished HOT...they only lost two games because of injuries"..yaddayadda.


GravatarDoes anyone really like college football; and doesn't gamble?

Honestly, I find it profoundly boring.


GravatarSmoking is also a major complication for surgery.
bill


Good. Surgery is a major complication.


GravatarSallyh, my nephew had pneumonia this past fall -- big strapping 40-year-old UAW member (and rabid Dem, God bless him). Doctors think his little son might have brought it home with him from day care & given it to daddy. He said he was never so sick in his life.


Obey your doctors and let Monsieur carry the weight for a while. He can do it. You take care of you for a while now.


GravatarI meant anesthesia. If you're a smoker they have to use more.


Gravatardamn it's gotten 6 degrees warmer in the past hour.

Is it December yet?


GravatarI'm getting the feeling that there are a number of football scrums being held at various athletic courts.
rorschach |


And this is a sporting contest of some sort?


GravatarAnd they generally don't perfect much of a bedside manner. Their interviews with awake patients are formulaic fact gathering for the most part, and, of course, they do most of their work on sedated or asleep people.
ProfWombat | 12.01.07 - 11:17 pm | #


The last anesthesiologist that I dealt with (tonsils) was pretty much an asshole.

He and my surgeon argued about which anesthesia to use on me (my surgeon was afraid I'd have a reaction)- my surgeon lost the fight.

Oh well, I lived, which is all you can ask for (though my surgeon was right- I did have the chills and shaking thing coming out of surgery, which was excruciating since I was in a lot of pain and was trying to stay still).


Gravatarnitrous: The assistant puts the mask on and then goes out of the room. I'd lay there in the chair and gradually my feet would go away and the disembodied sensation continues up to about the chin... 'focus' was a word I'd heard of, but somehow no longer seemed relevant.

Then the dentist and the assistant come in and go to work and the spell is broken.

No pain exactly but a sense of discomfort, and by the time the job is done the feet are once again connected to the brain... and it's time to get out of that place before they do something I really wouldn't like.


Gravatar"Honestly, I find it profoundly boring."

I'm with you.


Gravatar I don't know why the hell they are testing me, I can legally use narcotics if I want.

They are looking for the substances you cannot legally use. I used to do that at a local homeless shelter when I volunteered there summers. Read and record the pee tests, among other things.


GravatarI just got my ass kicked in a game of Rummy 500.

Now, Zapette's playing a game of solitare. I should be profoundly disturbed.


GravatarAnyhoo, the most important thing is that the anesthesiologist sit with you in surgery and make sure you don't croak or become brain dead.


GravatarDoes anyone really like college football; and doesn't gamble?

Honestly, I find it profoundly boring.
Zap Rowsdower


All I know is that for about six straight weeks I'd turn on an SEC game and every damn game went to the 3rd or 4th overtime.

I found it amazingly entertaining.


Gravatardamn it's gotten 6 degrees warmer in the past hour.

Is it December yet?
1Watt, Hermit |


It is here--I haven't turned the thermostat down for the night yet, it's still at 64, and I can hear that brand new fancy boiler of mine working away right now...


GravatarI don't know why the hell they are testing me, I can legally use narcotics if I want.

Growing up, I remember my Archie Bunker neighbor would use the term "narcotics" for any kind of recreational drug, including weed.


GravatarAll I know is that for about six straight weeks I'd turn on an SEC game and every damn game went to the 3rd or 4th overtime.

I found it amazingly entertaining.


Ya, I like college ball too.

I find the NFL excruciatingly boring these days.


Gravatardamn it's gotten 6 degrees warmer in the past hour.

Is it December yet?
1Watt, Hermit |


The foot of snow outside my door says "yes."


GravatarProfWombat: that certainly explains my anesthesiologist's response. It amazes me that very few doctors ever explain anything like that, even when they find out I'm a biological research scientist.


GravatarIf there are any med drs here and I'm wrong, please correct me. My understanding is that the anesthesiologist is responsible for post-surgery pain mgt in the recovery room. Before my last surgery several years ago I got the best anesthesiologist I've ever had (I had had 2 previous surgeries). BEFORE surgery he told me that if I had any pain in recovery I should let the nurse know as he'd have something authorized for the nurse to give me if needed. I asked for it and received it in my i.v., whatever the heck it was. The pain wasn't bad but I knew it would be a while before my friend got my pain pill script filled and got me home to bed and I didn't want the pain to hit me hard before I could get started on the pills.I've learned the hard way you have to stay AHEAD of the pain, and not wait till its bad before taking your meds. If you do that you can end up hurting a lot and unnecessarily.


GravatarAll I know is that for about six straight weeks I'd turn on an SEC game and every damn game went to the 3rd or 4th overtime.

I found it amazingly entertaining.


Sounds boring, really.

Considering I don't really have a local 1-A college football team to root for, maybe I'm just out of the loop. Fuck Golden Gophers football!!


Gravatarfuck the trojans. never heard so much bullshit about them today..."finished HOT...they only lost two games because of injuries"..yaddayadda.
jdw


...there ya go. I was gonna keep quiet, because my Orygun Ducks wrapped up the season 0-3 after they lost both their first and second string quarterbacks. But USC has offered all sorts of disappointment over the last couple of years for us Pac-10 supporters, so they should probably accept the Rose Bowl invite and be happy about it...


GravatarGod damn it, now I want an eclair.

Fucking Ntodd.


GravatarYa, I like college ball too.

I find the NFL excruciatingly boring these days.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


Because it is. It's been really a shit year in the NFL.


GravatarTylenol # 3 doesn't work much better than over the counter meds like ibuprofen and naproxen. Percocet is a significantly better pain med, but has the highest addiction/abuse potential of all of 'em save OxyContin.

that's why i called her a bitch. of course, truth be told, i consider aspirin to be the best "pain" killer. but when it's too much pain for aspirin, you just sort of want to be high.

then again, if i were rich, i'd definitely be a junkie.


GravatarProfWombat: that certainly explains my anesthesiologist's response. It amazes me that very few doctors ever explain anything like that, even when they find out I'm a biological research scientist.

My doctor, "just tell me how much you weigh, goddamnit, I have a busy surgical schedule today."

Oh well, he was supposed to be the best in the hospital.


GravatarOklahoma 35 Missouri 17.


Gravatar My understanding is that the anesthesiologist is responsible for post-surgery pain mgt in the recovery room.

No, not to my knowledge.

Your regular doctor and the recovery room staff is responsible for that.


GravatarZap's gonna get healthy, dammit!

I'm sick of smoking and drinking and eating shit. I'm turning 32 in two weeks, and I feel like crap. Ugh.


GravatarMy doctor, "just tell me how much you weigh, goddamnit, I have a busy surgical schedule today."

Oh well, he was supposed to be the best in the hospital.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 11:26 pm | #


Thank god we don't have socialized medicine, because then the quality of care would be BAD!


GravatarIt's been really a shit year in the NFL.

The Dolphins-Jets game tomorrow will make up for all of that.


GravatarNic - get a new dentist - a responsible dentist never leaves a patient on nitrous unattended. i guess if the dr had a pulse ox on you or some other monitoring system with an alarm it would be okay but a responsible dentist always has someone sit and observe you while the nitrous takes effect.


GravatarI'm sick of smoking and drinking and eating shit. I'm turning 32 in two weeks, and I feel like crap. Ugh.

Quit smoking and you'll feel 100% better.

Nothing wrong with a little alcohol in moderation.


GravatarI'm sick of smoking and drinking and eating shit. I'm turning 32 in two weeks, and I feel like crap. Ugh.
Zap Rowsdower


Let me give you a chill: If I had quit smoking at 32 I'd be a 21-year nonsmoker.

Do it.

Do it.

Do it.


GravatarFucking Ntodd.

It's the most wonderful thing.


Gravatar"the most important thing is that the anesthesiologist sit with you in surgery and make sure you don't croak or become brain dead."

hahaha...that's the *nurse* anesthesiologist that's sitting at the end of the table.

the anesthesiologist is running between 4 surgery suites to help bring people out, and in teh meantime is sitting in the corner reading a GQ magazine and checking in with his Jaguar dealer.


Gravatar"Ya, I like college ball too.

I find the NFL excruciatingly boring these days."

dunno - college ball is full of a lot of teams winning 67-3 so they can get ranked higher and a lot of schools like Miami of Ohio (or Tampa of North Dakota) that squeaked by Wassamatta U 28-14. And all that drum music every time anything happens...

Joy to the people who like college ball. I just see no reason to care about any of it.


Gravatar I'm turning 32 in two weeks, and I feel like crap. Ugh.
Zap Rowsdower


Goddamn 32 is young. I wanna be 32 again. Bush I was teh president when I was 32.


GravatarMy goal (and timestamp this):

I will be a non-smoker at EschaCon.

Hold me to it, folks. And I will do what I can on my end.


GravatarThank god we don't have socialized medicine, because then the quality of care would be BAD!

Oh, I got great care- no doubt about that. The anesthesiologist was obsessively conscientious.

He just didn't much of a bedside manner.

For the record, I didn't give a good goddamn. My surgeon was one of the best in the city, and the anesthesiologist was the one he insisted on.I felt completely safe. And I was.


GravatarFucking Ntodd.

It's the most wonderful thing.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby


For NTodd.


GravatarThe Virtual Anaesthesia Textbook

Post-operative Pain

Introduction; rationale for post-operative pain relief

Recent years have witnessed with increasing interest in postoperative pain management. It wasn't always so! As a result an increasing number of patients have become more medically sophisticated and more likely to request specific modes of treatment.

The International Association for the Study of Pain and their journal "Pain" are the main international group with an interest in pain management. Their web site includes many useful clinical update sheets and technical information sheets. In 1993 they released "Pain Control - the new Hows and Whys" - explaining the logic behind attempting to manage pain better.

The US AHCRQ (Agency for Health Care Research) clinical guidelines include something vague and out of date on postoperative pain.

Most professional anaesthesia organisations have policy statements or guidelines on pain management. Some links include the US ASA Practice Guidelines for Perioperative Pain management, ANZCA Guidelines on Acute Pain Management, Acute Pain Management, Scientific Evidence, ASPAN's position statement on pain management and the 2003 clinical guideline for pain management (from the perioperative nursing perspective).

The American Pain Society has closed their education section, but the American Pain Foundation provides a number of information sheets, mostly from a chronic pain perspective, in their library...


http://www.virtual-anaesthesia-t...m/vat/ pain.html


GravatarFucking Ntodd.

It's the most wonderful thing.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 11:31 pm | #


If only those Tastee Freez walls could talk...


GravatarWalking is a very easy way to start exercising. You can do it most places and if you want to ramp up the difficulty level, walking on more difficult terrain, works pretty well assuming you have foot gear apropos to you and where you are walking. If you've got river valleys or mountains nearby, taking some walks up and down them can allow you to get some fairly extreme exercise.
I am thinking of signing up for a weight training class. I'll have to ask the coach/trainer, if he'd be alright with me missing classes if I'm overtiming a lot. With a 60 or 70 hour work week sleep takes precidence.


GravatarMy goal (and timestamp this):

I will be a non-smoker at EschaCon.

Hold me to it, folks. And I will do what I can on my end.


Oh goody.

I promise to hound you mercilessly. ( I hates teh smoke, precious)


GravatarI'm sick of smoking and drinking and eating shit. I'm turning 32 in two weeks, and I feel like crap. Ugh.

Salud y amor y tiempo para disfrutarlo.


GravatarNToddler,

You kill Korby yet?


GravatarI'm sick of smoking and drinking and eating shit. I'm turning 32 in two weeks, and I feel like crap. Ugh.
Zap Rowsdower


That's BDS. Not what you smoke, drink and eat.


GravatarI will be a non-smoker at EschaCon.

Hold me to it, folks. And I will do what I can on my end.
Zap Rowsdower


I'm supposed to be, too.

Damn it's hard. But it won't be nearly as bad for you as it is for me.

Do it.


GravatarFucking Ntodd.

It's the most wonderful thing.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby

For NTodd.
V for Virginia


Well yes, but as I believe we've covered, I am a most selfless lover.


Gravatar"I'm supposed to be, too.

Damn it's hard."

you bet. I did it though and i am a weak person - look at me and junk food!


Gravatarat Fark: Soldiers escorting the body of a fallen colleague forced by TSA screeners to publicly strip down to their t-shirts and socks. Mission accomplished


Gravataryou bet. I did it though and i am a weak person - look at me and junk food!
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


You wouldn't happen to have an eclair on you, would you?


GravatarWhen/where is the next EschaCon by the way?


GravatarYou kill Korby yet?

I do not kill.

I destroy.

And yes, Korby, who is now tied with Susan, is 6 referrals behind me. I. Will. Win. The. Free. Trip. Bitches.


Gravatar"the most important thing is that the anesthesiologist sit with you in surgery and make sure you don't croak or become brain dead."

hahaha...that's the *nurse* anesthesiologist that's sitting at the end of the table.

the anesthesiologist is running between 4 surgery suites to help bring people out, and in teh meantime is sitting in the corner reading a GQ magazine and checking in with his Jaguar dealer.


Nope. He was there when I went out and there when I woke up.

Same thing when I got my deviated septum fixed (different hospital).

Surgery is no joke. I know a woman who went into the hospital for routine plastic surgery and never came out.

As far as I know, she's still in a home, brain dead.


GravatarWhen/where is the next EschaCon by the way?
rorschach


Last weekend in March, Philly, be there.


GravatarWhen/where is the next EschaCon by the way?

Next week/up my ass.


Gravatar"You wouldn't happen to have an eclair on you, would you?"

that sort of thing has a very poor survival rate around me.


GravatarBTW, getting UR tonsils out as an adult really, really, really hurts.


Gravatar"Last weekend in March, Philly, be there."

gonna try.


GravatarDamn it's hard. But it won't be nearly as bad for you as it is for me.

Dearheart,

Though I'm a young'n, I've been smoking for (counts on my fingers) sixteen fucking years?

Gawd, that's messed up...half my life.


Gravatar"Nope. He was there when I went out and there when I woke up."

yup. but in between he wasn't sitting at the head of your OR table. he was checking in with his broker..


GravatarTEBB: I telescoped that a bit in the telling... they were careful about that. But the stuff did screw with my sense of time.

Go to a different dentist now anyway, and he just sticks with the novocain.


GravatarSurgery is no joke.

I recently read an article on MSNBC.com that for the third fucking time in one year, neurosurgeons at a Rhode Island hospital cut on the wrong fucking side of the patient's brain.

3 different brain surgeons.


Gravatar
I do not kill.

I destroy.


i am become death
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x39eRJA1aVU


Gravataryup. but in between he wasn't sitting at the head of your OR table. he was checking in with his broker..

Not with my surgeon.


GravatarV's version sounds a lot more pleasant than NTodd's.


Gravatar"V's version sounds a lot more pleasant than NTodd's."

does this surprise you?


GravatarI recently read an article on MSNBC.com that for the third fucking time in one year, neurosurgeons at a Rhode Island hospital cut on the wrong fucking side of the patient's brain.

3 different brain surgeons.


Holy shit.

I've been lucky. Very little serious illness in my life, and both of my surgeons have been top notch.


GravatarBTW, getting UR tonsils out as an adult really, really, really hurts.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U


So also says hubby.


GravatarThough I'm a young'n, I've been smoking for (counts on my fingers) sixteen fucking years?

Gawd, that's messed up...half my life.


It's not too late.

Make sure you drink lots of water.


GravatarV's version sounds a lot more pleasant than NTodd's.
rorschach


Oh, how you've changed.


GravatarSo also says hubby.
V for Virginia


Hubby is right. In the recovery room I really wanted to die.

They gave me a huge shot of morphine and it barely took the edge off.

It was worth it though.


Gravatar"Not with my surgeon."

that's good.


GravatarZap, V, if a local hospital or someplace nearby has a 6 or 8 week quit smoking course, you might check into it. That's how I quit, after 18 years of at least a pack a day. Having plenty of information & a small group all in the same boat around helped a lot.

It was an interesting experience, quitting smoking. Nicotine does have an effect on brain chemistry, and it doesn't want to leave. And there's some entertaining FX as your body gets adjusted to life without the nicotine -- I recall one day when I had endless endless energy (not like me, believe me) and the attention span of a flea (also not like me). It was fun -- I figured now I knew what it was like to be an Irish setter puppy.

You can do it!



GravatarSheets!

Only come up if U haz eclairs.


GravatarI'm sick of smoking and drinking and eating shit. I'm turning 32 in two weeks, and I feel like crap. Ugh.
Zap Rowsdower

poor baby.

which is to say, it's all down hill from here.

but, as has already been addressed, quit smoking (good luck), eat right, and drink in moderation.

i've got the eating right part down. age, is still gonna a kick your ass.


GravatarSpeaking of tonsils, there was an interesting theoretical paper out recently about how the function of the appendix may be as a reservior to help repopulate the gut bacterial flora after massive disruptions from cholera, dysentery, and similar diseases. One of the researchers interviewed in the CNN.com story on the work said he thought the tonsils might function similarly for the oral bacterial community.


Gravatar"Not with my surgeon."

that's good.


My surgeon was a pretty big wheel. And a supremely nice guy. I don't think many people fucked with him. But he did defer to the anesthesiologist on the drugs, because obviously it was his call.


Gravatari am become death

Oppy was a toad.


Gravatarneurosurgeons at a Rhode Island hospital cut on the wrong fucking side of the patient's brain.

What's the name of the hospital?
I want to add it to the list of incompetent facilities. There's one, Dade County, that has a 'fine' rep because they were known for cutting off the wrong leg, the wrong breast, the wrong testicle. They even had a patient catch on fire on the OR table. (causes; auto accident, gasoline on the clothes, spark, oxygen, from the anesthesia mask, soaked clothes not removed due to the patient having massive trauma, and the surgeons wanting to work on the patient right away)


GravatarThough I'm a young'n, I've been smoking for (counts on my fingers) sixteen fucking years?

Gawd, that's messed up...half my life.


Check it -- if you don't quit now, when you're my age it'll have been more than 2/3.

If I could change one thing about my life, that would be it. And it does NOT get any easier.

Get it over with and you can feel superior to your peers who are as lame and weak as I when you get there


GravatarToday the people of Venezuela face a constitutional referendum [which most of them want to "face"], which, if passed, could obliterate the few remaining vestiges of Venezuelan [feudalism]. The world is saying little [other than that Chavez eats babies] and doing less [other than, you know, that little attempt to overthrow the government] as President Hugo Chávez dismantles [parts of] Venezuela's constitution, [partially counteracts its plutocratic and treasonous] media and confiscates [stolen] private property [for the good of the people and national development].


GravatarAnaesthesiologists share pain management responsibility with surgeons; both typically order meds in the recovery room.

It's utterly clear that you have to anticipate pain and prevent it, rather than treat it when it happens, playing catch-up ball, in manabing postoperative pain. So it's quite common for an anaesthesiologist to give something just before, or as, the patient's waking up, assuming blood pressure and like that are OK.

Depends on the hospital how, or even if, they use nurse anaesthetists. My experience with the breed has been wonderful; they're some of the best-trained folk around. They usually, but not always, run the case except for induction and emergence, and, of course, if there's a problem, in which case the anaesthesiologist (MD) attends.


GravatarOne of the researchers interviewed in the CNN.com story on the work said he thought the tonsils might function similarly for the oral bacterial community.

Oh, I think they've thought that for a while.

The problem is when they get so infected that no amount of antibiotic can clear them up.

Then they start making you sick. All the time.


GravatarThe demonization of Chavez is proof that racism is alive and well.


GravatarThe best exercises are the old fashioned jack lalane bodyweight exercises. Push ups, squats or what the old folks call deep knee bends, lunges, sit ups, pull ups, dips. You don't need any fancy machines and you don't need to work the muscles to failure to transform your body.


GravatarZap,
To throw my two cents into the improve your life fest, swimming is an exercise that will really tell you that you want to keep your lungs clean.


GravatarExplain this to me again son. You say your job at the Secretary of State's office was Rice Planter?


GravatarThe last thing I remember is "Hi, I'm Dr. Sandman; ha ha."
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Gravatar

Testing.


GravatarOne of the things the MCM* and US politicians are up in arms about is that Chavez wants to remove term limits on the presidency. Like no ReThugs ever suggested that for St. Ronnie!

And we've only had presidential term limits in the Constitution since FDR.

Plus, Chavez wants to increase the number of signatures required for a recall election of the president (which can be done halfway through the term) to be increased from the present 20% of previous voters (iirc). Awfully small number to be able to require a recall!

Anyway, we here have no such tool to use with totally sucking presidents or even Worst President Ever. Or for senators and representatives.

Wow--can you imagine how fast BushBoy woulda been gone if we'd been able to get a recall election with only 20% of voters or even registered voters? DFHs alone could have done it. Woohoo!

But, alas, no such power for we the people. We can only ask our reps to impeach the bugger. Beg them....

*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media


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