Right now Condi is filling in the "Nobody could have foreseen ..." card that they hand her after each crisis.
P O'Neill |
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11.03.07 - 10:01 am | #
Where JP at?
plantsman, areligious |
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11.03.07 - 10:02 am | #
The clenis caused this crisis in Pakistan!
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
11.03.07 - 10:03 am | #
Who would have thought that Bin Laden who had just attacked the USS Cole and said he was determined to attack the US would actually attack the US. I mean who would have thought?
pigboy |
11.03.07 - 10:03 am | #
He's putting up new kitteh pix!
Lenore |
11.03.07 - 10:03 am | #
The United States Saturday congratulated Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf for his re-election to the post.
'Pakistan is an important partner and ally to the United States and we congratulate them for today's election,' White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said.
attaturk |
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11.03.07 - 10:05 am | #
JMJ
Pray for those poor people in Pakistan. If we can convert them to Christianity before they all die, maybe we can save some of their souls.
Sister Mary Oliphant |
11.03.07 - 10:06 am | #
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'CARLSON: I don't want to hear details about his marriage. But he keeps forcing them on us. Example A, Bill Clinton on the night of their 32nd anniversary said this: "We were laughing and talking, and believe it or not, the campaign even gave her the night off. We had about decided by the end of the night that the key to a long relationship was never being bored with one another, and I would still rather spend the night talking to her than anyone I can think of."
Now, leaving aside the fact that that's just a provable lie --'
It is? Really? Go ahead, prove it, Tucker. Inquiring minds want to know.
Re: Pakistan:
Musharraf took office in part promising to rid Pakistan of the corruption of the Bhutto family.
Nothing good happening there, surely, but that's a hugely complicated country, and it isn't easy to find unmitigated good guys to celebrate. From a rational American perspective, maintaining firm control of Pakistani nuclear technology by rational actors has to be of the highest priority. But can Musharraf maintain long-term control, suppressing change as he is? Consider the Shah of Iran as a counterexample.
ProfWombat |
11.03.07 - 10:07 am | #
I think Chimpy decided to make Musharaff his best friend just because he thought it would prove that it didn't matter that he couldn't remember the guy's name in the 2000 debates.
And yeah, we should have stormed the Supreme Court the minute they decided to intervene in Bush v. Gore.
Avedon |
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11.03.07 - 10:07 am | #
I'm sure a destabilized Pakistan means nothing but good things for 'Murka.
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Destabilizing one ally at a time. Murka.
el |
11.03.07 - 10:07 am | #
CNN's talking airhead tells me I might have "dangerous meat".
Which is the kinkiest talk I've heard in several months.
Still no sign of what the White House/RNC/FNC talking points are on Mooshy ...
P O'Neill |
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11.03.07 - 10:08 am | #
A.B. Stoddard is a tool.
Alexandra feeds Tucker's sickness.
plantsman, areligious |
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11.03.07 - 10:08 am | #
“I am not going to get into the details of our conversations but I think it would be quite obvious that the United States would not be supportive of extra-constitutional means,” said Rice, when asked whether the United States opposed any move by Musharraf to declare martial law.
“Pakistan needs to prepare for and hold free and fair elections,” said the top U.S. diplomat, adding that she had not spoken to Musharraf in recent days,
Rice was speaking to reporters en route to Turkey and before a refuelling stop in Shannon, Ireland.
When speculation was rife several months ago that Musharraf was set to declare a state of emergency, Rice called him to make clear that this was a move Washington strongly opposed and there must be a move to civilian rule via democratic elections.
“The political space needs to be prepared by moderate forces, beginning to work together, which is why we have been supportive of moderate forces like Mrs. Bhutto’s return, and that moderate forces have a common enemy in the extremists who are so much in evidence,” Rice said.
Of course, Rice said all that yesterday. Who knows what the new line will be, but I think it's pretty clear that Bhutto is lined up to be the new US puppet.
Arkenor |
11.03.07 - 10:08 am | #
I might have "dangerous meat".
C'mon over here and sit by me.
I laugh in the face of danger - HA HA!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
11.03.07 - 10:09 am | #
And yeah, we should have stormed the Supreme Court the minute they decided to intervene in Bush v. Gore.
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how do you storm the SC? Not like getting emails will mobilize them. Storm our critters to storm them? When critters have already failed to enforce election standards.
el |
11.03.07 - 10:09 am | #
Chimpy and Musharaff have something in common. Both were installed by the court system
pigboy |
11.03.07 - 10:09 am | #
(I'm quite lonely)
There's always Youngstown.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
11.03.07 - 10:10 am | #
Jim Totino's Party Pizzas were a joke when i was in college at Grinnell. Before Jeno's absorbed them and spread E. coli tainted pepperoni topping on both brands.
plantsman, areligious |
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11.03.07 - 10:11 am | #
Breaking News on the BBC. Pakistan Chief Justice is fired, and the constitution has been suspended.
I didn't realise you COULD suspend a whole constitution. I thought that was rather the point of them. I hope he's not giving W more ideas.
Arkenor |
11.03.07 - 10:12 am | #
Y'know, it's happened before that America has backed ruthless autocrats in the vain search for stability, confusing short-tem stability with long-term progress, and regularly, American national interests, even narrowly construed, have been ill-served, while blood and treasure wasted.
Contrast, say, Jimmy Carter's embrace of human rights as a centerpiece of his foreign policy. A quarter of a century later, he almost single-handedly maintains the possibility of American decency on the world stage. (And yes, I know he shouldn't have let the Shah come to the US for treatment, and I remember Desert One.)
ProfWombat |
11.03.07 - 10:12 am | #
Charges of corruption were brought against the Justice Mooshy put in the clink too so I don't really credit the charges of corruption against Bhutto's husband entirely.
Ruth |
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11.03.07 - 10:12 am | #
I didn't realise you COULD suspend a whole constitution.
Been under a rock, eh?
plantsman, areligious |
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11.03.07 - 10:12 am | #
Pervez Musharraf declares state of emergency.
Condi Rice warns him the U.S. will not support martial law but please let them know if he has any tips for Bush
TrÜth Strategist |
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11.03.07 - 10:13 am | #
Oh, my! Things are really going great. Oil hitting around $96.00 a barrel. My military-industrials are making wads of cash. My buddies in Blackwater had a little turbulence in Iraq, but are working well in Louisiana and California.
Getting a little static about our plans for Iran, but things are really getting to a boil in Pakistan. If things keep going this well, I'll fast-track my plans for Chimpy to declare 'Martial Law' here, too.
Richard 'DICK' Cheney |
11.03.07 - 10:13 am | #
Anyone else really tired of the so called Clinton sex scandals? Those were so 1990s.
[Puts hand up to mouth while mouth reflexively opens. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwns.]
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
11.03.07 - 10:13 am | #
Y'know, it's happened before that America has backed ruthless autocrats in the vain search for stability, confusing short-tem stability with long-term progress, and regularly, American national interests, even narrowly construed, have been ill-served, while blood and treasure wasted.
Are you talking about domestic or foreign policy here?
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
11.03.07 - 10:13 am | #
Been under a rock, eh?
plantsman, areligious
I said "whole constitution". I'm pretty sure some parts of yours are still in effect.
Arkenor |
11.03.07 - 10:14 am | #
Apparently Pakistan Supreme Court has met and overturned the emergency decree, but has no power to enforce.
P O'Neill |
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11.03.07 - 10:14 am | #
spinoza: yes...
ProfWombat |
11.03.07 - 10:14 am | #
I didn't realise you COULD suspend a whole constitution.
Well, technically you're right. But we've already redacted major parts of it, so theres a good chance nobody will even notice.
Richard 'DICK' Cheney |
11.03.07 - 10:14 am | #
Michael Dell is jewish; why is his eponymous computer company using Christmas Carols in its ads already?
plantsman, areligious |
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11.03.07 - 10:14 am | #
Jimmy Carter's embrace of human rights as a centerpiece of his foreign policy.
CSpan ran a speech he gave in the 70s last night. He was so rational and sane - talking about solar energy, etc.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
11.03.07 - 10:15 am | #
Prof Wombat-
heh
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
11.03.07 - 10:15 am | #
Apparently Pakistan Supreme Court has met and overturned the emergency decree, but has no power to enforce.
P O'Neill | Homepage | 11.03.07 - 10:14 am | #
That sounds promising.......
Barbarism Begins at Home |
11.03.07 - 10:16 am | #
I didn't realise you COULD suspend a whole constitution. I thought that was rather the point of them.
Arkenor | 11.03.07 - 10:12 am | #
As shrub would say, 'it's just a piece of paper'.... and 'ah,, ah,, you're talkin about laws that were written back in the 1700's, this is 2008'...
pigboy |
11.03.07 - 10:16 am | #
From BBC: "One TV channel reported that emergency rule may involve the suspension of the constitution."
ONE channel, MAY involve suspension... doesn't add up to suspension.
el |
11.03.07 - 10:16 am | #
What? Clenis is married?
Gee, I never knew that.
Who is he married to?
What? Hillary? I thought that was just a coincidence. Clinton is not an uncommon name.
Wow, the media sure did a great job keeping that from me.
R. McGeddon |
11.03.07 - 10:16 am | #
How many times do I have to tell you people that all news is gossip? Even international news boils down to personalities and how people feel about each other.
Thoreau observed this over 150 years ago. And I don't think it was new then.
Honestly, this younger generation cain't learn nothin'!
Rmj, For all the Saints |
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11.03.07 - 10:16 am | #
heh.
I see you bats are already well into the Pakistan story.
TrÜth Strategist |
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11.03.07 - 10:17 am | #
Michael Dell is jewish; why is his eponymous computer company using Christmas Carols in its ads already?
plantsman, areligious
Just because I don't observe the holiday doesn't mean I don't celebrate it. Yahoo! More Money!
Michael Dell |
11.03.07 - 10:17 am | #
It should be obvious to even a slime mold that the active sabotage of Carter's alternative energy and energy independence initiatives constitutes not just a lost opportunity, but perhaps the single most seriously treasonous act of the past half century.
ProfWombat |
11.03.07 - 10:18 am | #
Jimmy Carter's embrace of human rights as a centerpiece of his foreign policy.
He got hammered by the republicans for his human rights policies, not being sufficiently the baby-eating real politik Henry Kissinger. Then Reagan gets elected, and what does he do? He starts making odd hooting noises about the lack of human rights in the Soviet Union (by which he could have meant anything from being able to have a bible to being able to get a blow job).
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
11.03.07 - 10:18 am | #
owls~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
11.03.07 - 10:18 am | #
I haven't been following the Pakistan nearly as closely as I should, but I take it the US is setting up the Virgin Ironpants to take over from Musharraf?
Not a good idea. None of my Pakistani friends can stand her. They say the corruption under her government was beyond all imagining.
Jennifer |
11.03.07 - 10:19 am | #
The equivalence of news to gossip can be seen as either denigrating news, or elevating gossip.
At what point does, say, family gossip get transformed into Flaubert and Tolstoy?
ProfWombat |
11.03.07 - 10:19 am | #
I don't like calling him Mooshy.
I prefer the Pervmeister.
Gomez |
11.03.07 - 10:21 am | #
"get away from my nipples you sick bastard"-goat to Tucker Carlson
jr |
11.03.07 - 10:39 am | #
Tucker Carlson never once met bullshit that didn't taste good coming out of his mouth.
lovable liberal |
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11.03.07 - 12:23 pm | #
Oh, the constant forcing upon the nation the gruesome and disgusting details of the Clinton's marriage!!!
How dare they flaunt the fact that it was their 32nd anniversary! that's sick stuff. They were "laughing and talking" - how sick is that??
"I would still rather spend the night talking to her than anyone I can think of." - Can you believe such perversion???
"Now, leaving aside the fact that that's just a provable lie -- "
What does it say about Tucker that can't believe that two long-married people would talk and laugh with one another?
g |
11.03.07 - 1:13 pm | #
Tucker's rich daddy has some 'splaing to do to his poor little bitch boy. I miss his bow-tie. So NESCAC.
JDub |
11.03.07 - 2:33 pm | #
For the last time, folks: It's not "Clenis Obsession" it's Clenis Envy
MinSF |
11.03.07 - 5:35 pm | #