I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
ha
hi
Thanks Avedon.
Peace
No mo woe
Thannks, Avedon. And I changed my Derby post a bit, it was a bit eery after what happened.
Collapse of the middle class? Watching it, living it.
Up der?
Just after they spent a lifetime making this animal into a one-trick pony.
I don't understand that culture.
Toby Petzold
From the mind of a dog burner.
Dinner calls, meaning I have to go to the local sushi joint for me & Clairan, and the local Chinese take out for her dad. 83, WWII vet, sharp guy, great health. My kid's getting good genes from my wife's side of the family.
Later, maybe.
Elizabeth Warren completely rocks. She's from Oklahoma, just to prove that you can never completely write anyplace off.
Watching it, living it.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
When there's nothing left to steal, we're home free.
well, since we have eradicated the Iraqi middle class (and working class) why shouldn't the American middle class collapse as well? it's not like they own General Electric, Loral, or Yoyodyne Systems.
dearest Av: i don't need to even click that link. i'm watching it with my own eyes here in MI. it's disturbing, but also somewhat inspirational. although i don't want to blame little people for the mess we're all in, it's long past time to entirely reconstruct what we call "the middle class" in this country.
if people can't afford to be fat, lazy consumers of slave made plastic junk, and have to relearn how to nurture their home environments and get by with less, i'm ok with that. it's long past time for this nation to grow up, get real, and accept that we don't "deserve" 25% of the planet's resources. and that it's just silly to spend 000,000 on things like hummers, one-bedroom condos, and petro-products.
Debate.
Hecate
my sex option was for last night, not tonight. stop teasing me, my vibrator quit on me and i don't want to have to break out the...never mind. 
it's long past time for this nation to grow up, get real, and accept that we don't "deserve" 25% of the planet's resources.
What she said.
ChiDy, I think it's more a case of the rules being upended, as opposed to consumerism.
We were assured that if we were good students, went to good colleges, worked hard, bought home, and paid our taxes, we'd be okay. Not necessarily well off, but okay--able to raise families, for example.
That's all been twisted into some indistinguishable shape.
I'm confused. What does this video have to do with 70s progressive rock?
This is an hour-long presentation, and it's had nearly 27,000 views!
not trying to be redundant as i've posted this classic before. but it's uh, um... a classic.
so sue me.
CD, watch it anyway, she's got some fascinating facts and surprises, and some very tidy graphs and charts.
ChiDyke, when a whole culture is aimed at convincing you that material stuff is worth giving up peace and just about anything, it's not fat and lazy, it's unreflective.
OT...but come on ESCHATON POSTERS...I'm betting you can match the nasty on HUFFPO about the tragic death of the filly, Eight Belles, in the Derby...let's liken that to the "KILL OFF HILLARY" crap that is spewed here and around the blogosphere and MSM...because you're all in love with OBAMA and it was BIG BROWN that emerged the victor...at least they both beat COLONEL JOHN (or CORPORAL - who cares?)...still as a horse lover I'd take one of them over most who can't wait to slime Hillary.
PS. Don't call me "Av".
And no, we don't deserve 25% of the world's resources. We're just not that fucking important.
Dancer | 05.03.08 - 8:09 pm | #
ease off the meth, bro...
OT...but come on ESCHATON POSTERS...I'm betting you can match the nasty on HUFFPO about the tragic death of the filly, Eight Belles, in the Derby...let's liken that to the "KILL OFF HILLARY" crap that is spewed here and around the blogosphere and MSM...because you're all in love with OBAMA and it was BIG BROWN that emerged the victor...at least they both beat COLONEL JOHN (or CORPORAL - who cares?)...still as a horse lover I'd take one of them over most who can't wait to slime Hillary
It's Saturday night and some old friends are chatting Could you give it a rest?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 05.03.08 - 8:05 pm | #
i haven't said it recently but: you are My Hero. i just want you to know that. i read about the work you do, the difference you make, and i am ashamed of myself for indolence and lack of compassion. you had a bad day, but you are the Best. seriously. i wish i could be as good as you are.
"PS. Don't call me "Av"."
not even in the context of "av, me ol' bean!"?
The UCLA campus is home to an incredibly aggressive crowd of squirrels. If
you don't share your lunch with them, they'll just come and grab it
from you.
In part, this is why I won't return to the Huntington Library - but not the squirrels. Teh rats. 17th Century elegance and rats! RATS!
not trying to be redundant as i've posted this classic before. but it's uh, um... a classic.
I had that song in my head earlier today, so thanks.
"i haven't said it recently but: you are My Hero."
thank you!!!!!!
I didn't even know you knew who I was!!!
really really thank you!!!
(moved damn near to tears by your kind words..."
Auntie, rats? At the Huntington Library?!
I have to say I've never encountered one in all the times I've been there.
Buffy, the black girl dog, just dived into the bushes chasing a squirrel.
It's now taunting her from halfway up a tree.
so thanks.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas | Homepage | 05.03.08 - 8:12 pm | #
note to self: expect no legal troubles from zap...
Avy
the Av-meister
Avereno
Lebanon Junior High School Chorus circa 1985 covering the "Theme from Cheers"
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/DP/
200...From_Cheers.mp3
I have to say I've never encountered one in all the times I've been there.
U've been very lucky. Ivy. Lots and lots of ivy.
Uncle Blodge is a true educator. He's on the front lines, every day, and understands that small victories can ultimately be very significant.
I curtsy in your general direction.
note to self: expect no legal troubles from zap...
Heh. Just remember: when football season rolls around do not take my advice. 
Balls!
The battery is running out.
I'm going to retire from the field, my dignity intact.
Peace and love, brothers, sisters and everything in between.
Auntie, admittedly, these days, our favorite thing to do at the Huntington is to take Maddy to the Children's Garden. She loves it, and watching her is a joy.
because you're all in love with OBAMA and it was BIG BROWN that emerged the victor.
THAT is THE most RETARDED post EVER!
our favorite thing to do at the Huntington
Pinkie and Blue Boy!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere:
As do I.
Dearest Avendon, my apologies. my finners are tired from gardening and i'm cutting corners. forver me.
ChiDy, I think it's more a case of the rules being upended, as opposed to consumerism.
sallyh: i don't want to get on a soapbox, but the two are utterly entwined. our "rules" are predicated on death, genocide, destruction, overconsumption, arrogance, racism, antievironmentalism, patriarch, etc. it's only the case that we could have believed the things we did, coming up, because so much truth was hidden from us.
i don't blame you, i don't blame any of us who are not billionaires. but i do accept blame for being a willing participant in a system that is evil, murderous, etc. there is blood on my hands like there is on every american's. when you perceive that, it's very hard to defend the life we enjoy, or complain about the predations about to fall upon us.
people bitch when i say things like, "don't whine about your "depression," american, until you've walked a mile in the shoes of a teen girl from sudan." ok, i'm pedantic, that's true. but: there are literally ~3B "teen girls from sudan" in the world, and almost everything we enjoy and consume comes from them, on their backs, by their tears and blood. i've literally turned down free trips to china and india, because i know i'm a wimp and if i saw this truth up close, i'd be suicidally depressed and guilty. at least this way, i can enjoy my hypocrisy. luckily, there is no "hell" so i will only wallow in guilt for the duration of my life.
any society that bombs hospitals deserves whatever shitty fate the gods call up.
I love,
Tick-infested hounds.
Slaughtering a deer.
And beer.
I also believe that I should be awarded a fellowship purely on the basis of my coleslaw.
Oh! My! http://www.thrillicious.com/#tim...m/
#timessquare1
note to all - it is in my plans to create an african american history blog. Think about it and when I ask you gimme feedback, ok?
won't happen till summer, but it will happen
I suspect Uncle B would like facilities in tolerable condition, supplies, sufficient books and counselors, and a whole lot of other things that should be taken for granted by teachers.
I think it's really sad that Big Lots and their ilk run "Teacher Appreciation Days," where teachers can buy supplies that should be supplied to them.
When I taught at juvie in the early 80s, everything came out of my own pocket, but that was the 'correctional' system. I'm appalled that this is the norm in US schools now.
oops, croup calls. laters, alligators
wow am i laughing at the horror that was the spelling of that last post. anyway, i think i should start drinking now, so i'll at least have an excuse people will accept.
that's right. you cost me a fucking dime one week...
anyway -
need to go be with kids
later and thank you for the kindness...
chicago dyke WHEN we meet I wanna give you a huge hug.
seriously - you just dug me out of a big funk.
later!!
ChiDy, I never grade spelling on this blog.
Too tired to deal with anymore than I already have to
uncle blodge
count me in for whatever help
Oh! My!
Indeed!
I've been saying the middle class was being dissapeared all along.
You all should listen to me more.
Auntie GWPDA, you should get a fellowship and a lot more on the basis of your coleslaw recipe alone.
It is a Chez H staple now.
you can make it up tho by helping me put together a lil house party fundraiser for franken in the cities.
Republican mafia tactics.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-all-the-facts/
Pinkie and Blue Boy!
And 10 unique versions of Seven Pillars of Wisdom....
Guam!
Obama wins Guam caucuses by just 7 votes over Clinton
46 minutes ago
HAGATNA, Guam (AP) — Barack Obama has defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton in Saturday's Democratic caucuses on Guam by just seven votes.
More than 4,500 island Democrats voted.
Thank FSM our long national nightmare is finally over.
~
sheets again.
you can make it up tho by helping me put together a lil house party fundraiser for franken in the cities.
Soitenly! Anything for Al.
My favorite at the Huntington is the rose garden. When it's in bloom, it's astonishingly beautiful and fragrant. I've always loved roses.
Are there any doctors in the house
ronjazz, not seeing new sheets, and I've cleared my cache and my cookies.
note to all - it is in my plans to create an african american history blog.
If I can be of help in methodology or presentation, let me know.
My favorite at the Huntington is the rose garden. When it's in bloom, it's astonishingly beautiful and fragrant. I've always loved roses.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
It pisses me off how the anti-choice nuts have "appropriated" the red rose as a symbol of their sick "movement".
nuther phone call, brb
This may sound commie, but just as the moderate reasonable Christians have enabled fundies(Dawkins),the moderate reasonable middle class has enabled the fascists.
Terry C, as it does me. Deep reds have always been my favorite.
My favorite at the Huntington is the rose garden.
That's lovely, but the garden of marble statues and white flowers that, when the smog clears, looks out over to the mountains is my all-time favorite. I love the Huntington.
Salieri, sadly true.
you can make it up tho by helping me put together a lil house party fundraiser for franken in the cities.
Soitenly! Anything for Al.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas | Homepage | 05.03.08 - 8:23 pm | #
note to self: call atty back and withdraw $1000 action against zap's gut feel...
The comments at Youtube for that video are troubling.
There are going to be dangerous people pitching dangerous panaceas at scared people too busy to think them through, and before it's all over, we may have handed the remains of the Republic to them...
Oh noes! David Geddes is on my radio.
Hecate, I'm not sure this late in the day, but I don't believe that there are any squirrels or squirrel-related mammals around the LSE. It's pretty urban. Good bookstores tho.
I feel like looking at vacations. We don't have a lot of money right now, but our 25th is in July. We've survived a lot. I think we should celebrate, even if it's not extravagant.
any society that bombs hospitals deserves whatever shitty fate the gods call up.
What she said.
"because you're all in love with OBAMA and it was BIG BROWN that emerged the victor."
I DARE you to make less sense!
OT, but one of your ads features an Ay-rab dating service and hawt Ay-rab young woman. Are liebral hippie 'Murka haters like you trying to bring down America with hawt Ayrab girls?
Microsoft said Saturday that it was abandoning its blockbuster bid to acquire Yahoo after the two companies could not agree on a price.
The breakdown followed a meeting in Seattle on Saturday morning between Microsoft C.E.O. Steven A. Ballmer, Microsoft's chief executive, and Yahoo C.E.O. Jerry Yang, Yahoo's co-founder and chief executive, according to a person who was briefed on the discussions.
At the meeting, which also included Yahoo's other co-founder, David Filo, and Microsoft's Kevin Johnson, Mr. Ballmer increased Microsoft's offer to $33 a share, but Mr. Yang said Yahoo would not sell for less than $37 a share, this person said.
I still don't care.
when you perceive that, it's very hard to defend the life we enjoy, or complain about the predations about to fall upon us.
"Maybe the reason telepathy never got to be commonplace is that if we could read the thoughts of all our fellow humans what half of them would be thinking at us is 'I'm fucking starving here!'"
--paraphrased, Spider Robinson.
zap, i'll email you at yahoo within a day or so with some details...
"because you're all in love with OBAMA and it was BIG BROWN that emerged the victor."
I DARE you to make less sense!
Chris Tucker
I don't think that's possible.
That had to be one of the most stupid posts ever seen at Eschaton.
Terry C, seems that there's no floor on stupidity
The comments at Youtube for that video are troubling.
When Yahoo shut down their comment boards, all the lunatics went to YouTube.
Terry C, seems that there's no floor on stupidity
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Sadly, No.
Microsoft withdrew it's bid for Yahoo.
Fuck you stock speculators.
excellent: the future as depicted by leftwing law school academics
you go, worthless numbnuts!
And SPEAKING of stupidity and lunacy....
I feel like looking at vacations. We don't have a lot of money right now, but our 25th is in July. We've survived a lot. I think we should celebrate, even if it's not extravagant.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 05.03.08 - 8:29 pm |
Some nice long weekend of nothing by lounging around and being pampered, you two deserve that, and more.
I DARE you to make less sense!
Well, if you invoke it you have to deal with it.
Sounds good, fokowi.
Just heard a radio commercial for an upcoming concert for Michael Bolton. They said he'd be singing "all of his hits". I find that quite amusing.
"What is the sound of lubyanka wanking its tiny, useless penis?"
How would I know, I have it killfiled.
Excellent lecture. So, I'll never make as much as my father because of the emergence of women in the workplace.
But I'm not resentful or bitter...fair is fair.
It's just...an unusual time to be male.
meanwhile, Denverians remain perplexed by the large, dark, inflated, turd-shaped object hovering high over the Pepsi Center, site of the Democrat National Convention...
Excellent lecture. So, I'll never make as much as my father because of the emergence of women in the workplace.
But I'm not resentful or bitter...fair is fair.
It's just...an unusual time to be male.
Gee, I feel bad for you.
'wasted on the way' to me at least, is like dfh self talk...
Gee, I feel bad for you.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Yeah, me too.
Thanks, I'm grilling some steak right now. In the midst of life, we are in death. And killing plant is "worse" than killing an another animal because . . . . ???????
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Your typos are usually proportional to the # of drinks you've had, so I'll try to keep it simple for you.
I'm tempted to encourage you to shovel as much animal flesh as you can tolerate down your alcohol-steeped throat, but I oppose that on ethical grounds as well.
Ah, yes, figures you were the first to throw out the ol "plants have feelings too" canard. It's a complete evasion. We're talking about species of living things that have a central nervous system, eyes, a brain. Sort of like your favorite pet.
And it's about choice, and free will. In our society, we have a choice. Some cultures don't have that. If they feel the need to sustain themselves on animal flesh, I don't judge that. There's also the eco impact, but we'll save that for another day. Like a good pagan, you do care about the planet, don't you?
Now go have another drink.
It's just...an unusual time to be male.
Us men have never had it worse.
Human greed killed the steed.
Hecate, thanks for your thoughtful and considerate remarks.
It's just...an unusual time to be male.
Somehow, you're not enticing me to feel sympathy for you.
And killfile welcomes a new resident: EliasX.
A horse is a horse
Of course
Paid the worst
The whores
Make the scores
Mighty $
Betting parlor
Comes the bell
The death knell
Human fell
Rot in hell
Human Greed
Killed the Steed
This I plead
Will we heed?
¿ǝʍ llɐɥs 'dn sƃuıɥʇ ǝʞɐɥs s,ʇǝl
"Us men have never had it worse."
Truly, the horrors of the day to day existance of the White Male in America are indescribable and terrifying.
wow am i laughing at the horror that was the spelling of that last post. anyway, i think i should start drinking now, so i'll at least have an excuse people will accept.
chicago dyke
Nothing I ever type into a comment box *looks* correctly spelled. I end up overthinking and later discover I left out entire words.
the moderate reasonable middle class has enabled the fascists.
Salieri,
...nodding head in 100% agreement...
¿ǝʍ llɐɥs 'dn sƃuıɥʇ ǝʞɐɥs s,ʇǝl
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
shaken, not stirred...
No, Jeremiah, truly, you are so superior as a result of your only killing plants to continue living. You are, for example, superior to lions and ravens and foxes and people who eat cows. Truly. Now, go away.
Hecate
Dish the hate
Contemplate
Deviate
Have your plate
I will not
Take
The
Bait
great /snark
Good evening.
Looks like the usual, only more so, this evening.
LET'S FUNK IT UP!!
~~~~~~~~
Time to, PAR-TAY!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Brown is an obvious dog whistle from the elitist, democrat derby. Big Black D..k.
Tweety will reference the James Brown vs. Smokey Robinson issue. Timmeh will demand an explanation of Willie Dixon's "Spoonfull"- "Drugs or sex, which is it, Senator Osama?"
It's just...an unusual time to be male.
J. Livermore | 05.03.08 - 8:37 pm | #
it's an unusual time to be alive. just like each time...
Hey, roomie! How's stuff by you?
SteveLG! How's it going? Company tomorrow; anything white v good in the $30 - $40 range?
SteveLG, oh yeah, plenty of stupid on board.
How's by you?
I wanted to check out the TV news later, but now I'm afraid it's all dead horses all the time.
Lumpen, very sad.
You crazy kids.
George W. Bush has made the world a more hopeful place.
This from Vice President Dick Cheney, who spoke to a crowd of Oklahoma Republicans Friday evening.
"When the history is written, it will be said this is a safer country and more hopeful world because George Bush was president," Cheney said, according to Oklahoma's Tulsa World.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/
Ch...ly_on_0503.html
omg...i got teh hots for the arab woman, and...I CAN MEET HER ONLINE!!!!
Chris Tucker, I'd argue that for most Caucasian males, life ain't that great right now, save for a few overfed and overprofited Republicans.
{{{geor3ge!!!}}}
now I'm afraid it's all dead horses all the time.
If you wanted a title for a history of the Bush years . . . .
More funk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h?
v=BJk9ZLjsl3U
It's dead horses all the way down.
later, folks. and thanks for putting up with me...
peace
{{{Sallyh!!!}}}
How's you?
"When the history is written, it will be said this is a safer country and more hopeful world because George Bush was president," Cheney said, according to Oklahoma's Tulsa World.
Does he mean when the history is written after the revolution? That things got so terrible because of georgie b., the people finally got up to take back their country? That history?
Sallyh, I quite agree. But to hear the well-fed, well-off white male complaints about how awful things are for them, well...
It's dead horses all the way down.
Worst. Racehorse. Name. Ever.
Oklahoma Republicans.
I hate Oklahoma Republicans.
No beating a dead horse.
Drugs or sex, which is it, Senator Osama?" - Salieri, lunar leftist
If Obama answers that question with "does it have to be one or the other? why can't I choose both?", then I'll really believe that his "transformative politics" really do go beyond the either/or thinking that plagues DC today, and he'd certainly get my vote.
geor3ge, I did something today that I needed to do not to feel sad about Mlle.
I wrote her a very short note, telling her that I wished her the best in rehab, that I know she can do it, and that I love her very much. I mailed it to her rehab.
It was all I wanted to say.
Hundreds of employee laptops are unaccounted for at the U.S. Department of State, which conducts delicate, often secret, diplomatic relations with foreign countries, an internal audit has found.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspag...ws-
000002716318
SteveLG! How's it going? Company tomorrow; anything white v good in the $30 - $40 range?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
There's a St. Romain on the top shelf of the Burgundy section that's 31.99 and it's wonderful... I think the Domaine name is Billard, iirc. Also a Ferret Pouilly-Fuisse (Les Moulins, iirc) at about the same price. I think it's the St. Romain that's the crowd pleaser. It reminds me a lot of the Meursault I brought to EschaCon.
Things are good. Looking forward to a quick run to Tuscany the 13th-19th. And to seeing my younger daughter in "On the Town" the end of the month through the third week of June, and the older daughter coming home from college.
There's other stuff I'm not looking forward to, such as pushing ahead with guardianship wrt my elderly mother, but it's a problem that can be dealt with. There are some that simply can't. I prefer the kind that yield to effort, however "un-fun" they may be.
Chris, I'll go along with that.
It was all I wanted to say.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
It's enough.
geor3ge, I needed to do it as much for myself as for her.
Drugs or sex, which is it, Senator Osama?
What, one has to choose?
It was all I wanted to say.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Then you done good.
Well, Zapette came home from Target without new curtains for our back porch. 
There's a St. Romain on the top shelf of the Burgundy section that's 31.99
i love french wine. i love good wine. i love wine (obviously from the quality of my evening posts)...but. how often can i justify, even when i'm flush with cash, a 30$ bottle? my friends who appreciate it will bring their own, those who don't won't notice if i serve swill, and frankly, it just seems wasteful and indulgent. that is, if i served a CA wine, borne of the same genetic stock shipped over before the blight in yurp that wiped out a lot of their "ancient" stock, can't i feel better about that, environmentally, socially, etc?
like i said, i love french wine. but there are times when i think that like so many other consumer indulgences we enjoy as uberconsuming americans, that's one of those things that needs to become much more of the actually "luxury" class, savored infrequently and understood in the context of what it "costs," and what it costs us all. /end soapbox/
Of course, with very little analysis required, it's pretty clear that what Prof. Warren is saying is that everyone is worse off, that families acknowledge that by taking on more financial stress to ensure that their children at least stay even, and, even then, bankruptcies are on the rise because of the transfer of risk from all of society to the individual--the entire program of "self-reliance" that the `pugs have been preaching for forty years is now coming to fruition.
Dems aren't excluded in this. Mostly because one of his primary campaign benefactors was MBNA, Joe Biden literally excoriated Warren when she testified before the Senate banking committee about the proposed changes in bankruptcy law--literally told her she was making stuff up, and couldn't be believed, and simply waved her off. It was downright rude, but explains the problem. A lot more money is being concentrated in the hands of the wealthy (corporate and individual) today, because of legislative and fiscal bias.
History International Channel presents "The History of God."
Description: God manifests himself to people from the time of Abraham to the present.
Say what?
Joe Biden literally excoriated Warren when she testified before the Senate banking committee about the proposed changes in bankruptcy law--literally told her she was making stuff up, and couldn't be believed, and simply waved her off. It was downright rude, but explains the problem. A lot more money is being concentrated in the hands of the wealthy (corporate and individual) today, because of legislative and fiscal bias.
There is a reason almost all of senators are millionaires.
God manifests himself to people from the time of Abraham to the present.
Before that, nothing.
Bwhahhahahahaah!
i love french wine. i love good wine. i love wine (obviously from the quality of my evening posts)...but. how often can i justify, even when i'm flush with cash, a 30$ bottle?
I like to find wines that cost less but can stand up (at least to my taste) to $30-50 bottles. But sometimes when I splash for an expensive bottle, I'm blown away by the series of tastes I get from a sip.
But I'm no expert or connoisseur, I'm happy with $11 bottle of Aussie Shiraz.
Why does this Law & Order: Major Case guy wear a tie clip? I think the last time I saw a tie clip was at a funeral in 1968.
"When the history is written, it will be said this is a safer country and more hopeful world because George Bush was president," Cheney said, according to Oklahoma's Tulsa World.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/ Ch...ly_on_0503.html
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 05.03.08 - 8:56 pm | #
Then Cheney shot an old man in the face.
~
Looking forward to a quick run to Tuscany the 13th-19th.
As always, my offer to switch jobs stands.
Leibniz, better question: why are you watching Law + Order?
Then Cheney shot an old man in the face.
then ate a newborn baby, raw.
ronjazz, not seeing new sheets, and I've cleared my cache and my cookies.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 05.03.08 - 8:24 pm | #
namestealer. I was making skettis with shrimp.
annie never told us about the middle class.
saw Hotel Rwanda last night.
we've no reason to bitch, except about our leaders and their refusal to lead.
Looking forward to a quick run to Tuscany the 13th-19th.
As always, my offer to switch jobs stands.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Or I was thinking I could just clear my schedule for that week!
sallyh-
I am avoiding grading freshman papers.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere , I've been on both sides us of this story. Trust me, your child will love unto death. Enjoy today. Do what you you do.
annie never told us about the middle class.
Did too. Lots of times. You scoffed.
But I was RIGHT. I usually am about stuff like this.
sallyh, i have tried to express my love and compassion for you many times, i hope you've heard some of that. i'm going to tell you what i've told my own mother as she struggles with my issues. perhaps it's moot and pointless, but i'll try anyway:
1. children with problems (of any kind, including addiction) are almost never helped by knowing their parents are feeling guilt, shame, whatever negative emotion, as we struggle with your addictions and problems.
2. it is best for you, and you do matter and this is *really* important to her, that you live your own life, think your own thoughts about yourself, and feel free to be happy despite the fact that she's not. every individual is responsible for their own happiness. there are people wallowing in the worst conditions imaginable, and some of them are "happy" most of the time. you can be as you want to be, and in the end it doesn't matter if you're a mom or not. be happy. think about things you want to think about. be your own person. learn to let go.
forgive me if that's presumptuous. i care for you and frankly, i'm tired of hearing you go on and on about her. all i can think is, "when will sallyh invest some emotional energy in her own well being?" i tell my mom the same thing, and i can happily report, it's working, a little bit. as she's accepted she can't change or control The World, let alone my world, she's come to understand how she can create a happy space of her own in it. you're 40days sober, i hope that's working for you. al-a teaches this lesson, iirc, and if you're not going, you should. the line that separates you from your offspring is real, and exists for a reason. now is the time to embrace that. and...you're lucky! we're all here for you as you do it. i'm sure there are dozens of others.
I am avoiding grading freshman papers.
I, for one, don't blame you.
those who don't won't notice if i serve swill
Hey, goddammit, *I* will notice.
Because I will be grateful. I love swill, of the wine sort that is. It's all I've ever been able to afford, therefore that's what my "palate" (snort) is trained to expect. If I ever got a swig of something really good I would probably spit it out thinking somebody was spoofing me with vinegar.
Did too. Lots of times. You scoffed.
But I was RIGHT. I usually am about stuff like this.
annie | 05.03.08 - 9:18 pm | #
liar.
Leibniz, now there's an excuse I understand. And empathize with.
Law + Order just seems like such an act of desperation, though.
freud laughs at me. "our" addictions, not yours. obviously.
God manifests himself to people from the time of Abraham to the present.
Before that, nothing.
dog: Well, I was waiting for someone so fucked up crazy he'd sacrifice his son because a voice told him to.
The discreet collapse of the middle class.
We are screwed. Six ways from hell. Any one of a number of bad things - that are all happening NOW - could bring down our economy and our way of life in the US.
Iraq, Iran, Global Warming, the weak dollar, the subprime mess (only 1/3 over), $4 diesel, Chimpy going nuts and declaring martial law, Peak Oil, China calling in all our debt...
Aw fuck.
Aw fuck.
HULK | Homepage | 05.03.08 - 9:21 pm | #
doan worry. annie will fix it.
Law + Order just seems like such an act of desperation, though.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 05.03.08 - 9:20 pm | #
I have "Blades of Glory" on.
Sometimes brainless is good.
George3-
I have your email. I'll get around to mailing you some music in a while. Too much going on now.
geor3ge, yes, but BOG was rather amusing.
leibniz, no rush. I have a wedding in seven weeks.
I saw Walk Hard awhile ago and I can't get it out of my head.
Think I'll go buy it.
Alright, who wants to buy some of Zapette's handmade jewelry? She's "staging" it as we speak.
"Sometimes brainless is good."
Indeed. I have "Attack of the Crab Monsters" sitting on the hard drive, awaiting JUST the right time for a viewing.
I am overjoyed that, likewise, I found the DVD of 'The Car' on a BitTorrent site. I am planning on having a few people over for a viewing party for this one.
I like a Will Ferrel comedy now and again. Rumor was he was slated to play Ignatius J. Reilly in "Confederacly of Dunces". That would've been interesting.
that is, if i served a CA wine, borne of the same genetic stock shipped over before the blight in yurp that wiped out a lot of their "ancient" stock, can't i feel better about that, environmentally, socially, etc?
Here's the thing... the DC market may be different than most, but we have a lot of small, independent importer/distributors who buy directly from small, independent grower/producers in France, Italy, Spain, Germany and elsewhere, and sell directly to us. One can get delicious, expressive, unique wines for seven to twelve dollars a bottle (the average at my Whole Foods is just under ten bucks)... but none, I repeat, none of the good values are from the United States. All we can get here on the East Coast under fifteen bucks from California is industrial wine. One is free to enjoy that if one finds it enjoyable, and this isn't something I particularly want to debate with folks this evening.
I think thirty bucks is a TON to drop on a bottle of wine, and at that price it ought to deliver quite an experience. I seldom find that in American wines except at absolutely monstrous prices, and even then they often leave me cold.
I occasionally find exceptions, but not many. YMMV.
Transposed the "yous" in the last post.
Actions do have consequences.
law and order is like puppet theatre of the 18thc. it's utterly unreal, antifactual, filled with propaganda and pseudofascist tripe. it's teevee, and obviously i hate it alone for that reason. but...the one thing it "gets right," is the relationships between officers of the court. they operate in the environment of "us vs. them" and one in which it's really, really important for the people they focus upon to consent to giving up their constitutional rights and accepting racism and internal colonialist ideology. so you see the black LT pontificating about the need for the state to kill people, the latin detective obsessed about increasing the gov't surveillance presences, lesbian ADAs arguing against gay rights, the old jew making jokes about rich jewish criminals...so many deeply buried, odious stereotypes dressed up in a "postmodern" skin.
i love and hate the show, because it teaches as it misinforms. the post-911 eps really exemplify what i mean; it was bizzare to see an apolitical cast and crew suddenly and illogically adopt bushian pseudopatriotism and ghouliani worship for a short time, and then later excoriate them when the beancounters told them that ratings would improve if they did so. bottom line: our true "system of justice" nothing like it. n.o.t.h.i.n.g.
Aw fuck.
You're right. But we have an opportunity to re-establish a loving relationship with trees and boulders and our landbase. To re-connect in a serious way to foxes and ravens and dogs and bears and eagles. To spend time outside when the power is off, as, my friends, it's going to be. We have an opportunity to make our lives much better, healthier, saner, as technology and Western Civ goes down the drain deosil.
Chris, you have 'Attack of the Crab Monsters'???
I am tres jealous
I heard somewhere, that carbon footprint wise, its actually better to get wine from Yurp than CA if you are in the East Coast.
'Attack of the Crab Monsters'???
Starring Mann Coulter's pubes.
Sally, would you like a copy?
SteveLG | 05.03.08 - 9:25 pm |
SteveLG--I never wanna debate wines, but gosh how I'd love to be on a hillside in Tuscany, with you and several bottles to sample, along with good conversation, under an olive tree.
[My clauses are dangling, but let's pretend it's poetry!]
Good evening moonbats! I don't have speakers, can you summarize the death of the middle class post please?
we need to inter-lock our flagpins and do some serious shopping ...
I have "Blades of Glory" on.
Sometimes brainless is good.
I actually liked that (in the sense that it made me laugh). But I really like Will Arnet (J.O.B. from Arrested Development) and Amy Pohler (his wife, IIRC). The JFK/Marilyn Monroe ice skating bit is hilarious.
Chris, I would adore one.
sallyh@surfcity.net
Send me postage information and costs, etc.
I heard somewhere, that carbon footprint wise, its actually better to get wine from Yurp than CA if you are in the East Coast.
The Old Man From Scene 24
I heard that on "Living on Earth". Shipping by sea burns less fuel than over land, so imported wines leave a smaller footprint on the east coast. I think somewhere around Ohio is where it makes more sense to go California.
[My clauses are dangling, but let's pretend it's poetry!]
whiskeyina |
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05.03.08 - 9:29 pm | #
low hanging fruit is always more fun
I heard somewhere, that carbon footprint wise, its actually better to get wine from Yurp than CA if you are in the East Coast.
The Old Man From Scene 24
That sounds right to me, although that's a guess rather than a statement I can actually back up.
The JFK/Marilyn Monroe ice skating bit is hilarious.
Just got to that point. I'm coughing with laughter.
xan has mail.
Mo Dowd sez that Obama is more qualified than before to be preznit because he drank beer from a can
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/0...ion/
04dowd.html
I think somewhere around Ohio is where it makes more sense to go California.
geor3ge | 05.03.08 - 9:31 pm |
A lot of Ohioans thought so too.
Whiskeyina, that sounds pretty nearly perfect.
I drink locally distilled vodka for just that reason. Produced within 15 miles of my house.
CD-
Nice summary of L&O. Part of it reminds me of a low-grade Moliere's Misanthrope. Why is this person behaving this way? Let's convict and jail them for that trait! It's phrenology upgraded to NYC TV actors.
I drink locally distilled vodka for just that reason. Produced within 15 miles of my house.
therealhellkitty
Brooklyn Brown Ale, baby.
liar.
ronjazz
They are trying to get rid of the middle class.
The only option for most young people in a few years, to get an education, a better life? The armed forces.
annie | 05.03.08 - 2:07 am | #
Just a quick example from last night.
Now apologize.
Sallyh has email.
owls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!at guam!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brooklyn Brown Ale, baby.
Gawd, I love that stuff.
I drink local, as well. Summit Extra (or Indian) Pale Ale. Brewed ten minutes outside of DT St. Paul.
low hanging fruit is always more fun
therealhellkitty
Whiskeyina, that sounds pretty nearly perfect.
SteveLG
Yes. Perhaps some day.
Or there's always July at my house under the dogwood tree--I often pretend I'm in Italy in the heat of summer! And there's that Lucinda concert...
Any one of a number of bad things - that are all happening NOW - could bring down our economy and our way of life in the US.
First, what Hecate said above. But really, Hulk, the question is no longer "may be coming down." It IS coming down, as we've all known deep down all our lives it had to, because in so many ways it's unsustainable no matter how many Other People we're willing to kill to try to keep it.
The question is whether we come down all together ("an ebbing tide lowers all boats"), and whether we come down soft (i.e. Hecates version) and voluntarily or hard and fast.
The latter is, alas, not only the most likely but the most likely to leave most of us, our children and grandchildren etc., dead rather unpleasantly.
Makes working really hard for the soft landing all that more important, eh?
I had to stop drinking for a bit for health reasons. I also had to stop eating red meat. It makes my big toe swell up and throb like hell.
I drink locally distilled vodka for just that reason. Produced within 15 miles of my house.
I like ales from local brewpubs. But of course the hops etc have to be trucked in from elsewhere but presumably it better to fill up my growler there than drinking mass produced corporate piss water beer in 12oz containers trucked in from who knows where.
Speaking of the need for the State to kill people, tomorrow is May 4.
Jeffrey Miller
Sandy Scheuer
Allison Krause
William Shroeder
10 days later at Jackson State.
Phillip Gibbs
James Green
I think thirty bucks is a TON to drop on a bottle of wine,
Well, for me, I'll spend 30; for company, I'll spend 30 to 40. Tomorrow, on the screen porch, the pink roses just starting to bloom among the purple violets, black arisimea filling the woodland garden, the ceiling fan spinning v slow, cheese almost runny it's so soft, Le Sacre du Printemps on the stereo, lilacs and honeysuckle on the warm air, I'm happy to go up near 40 for good French wine.
Chris has email back!
We have an opportunity to make our lives much better, healthier, saner, as technology and Western Civ goes down the drain deosil.
Hecate,
I heard somewhere, that carbon footprint wise, its actually better to get wine from Yurp than CA if you are in the East Coast.
ok. first off, dearest goddess and all who worship: let's agree that "technology" isn't bad, nor antienvironmental automatically. we can all agree (as women!) that birth control, antibiotics, understanding of sepsis, etc., are "good things." so let's keep those! same dif with solar panels, computers that help prevent the need for (virtual) slavery, and technique to restore reclaim devastated environments. the human mind doesn't produce only evil, sometimes it "improves" on nature in the same way that a 3yo "improves" on mommy's cookie design. Mo Nauture wants us to learn and grow and improve and do better; we call that "evolution" and it's a "good" thing, so far as moral/ethical systems apply to suchlike. let's not throw out the baby w/the bathwater, yo?
secondly: it makes no sense, mathematically, to "more cheaply" import wine from 1/2 way around the world, vs. 1/4 of the way. in terms of "economics" ya, sure, it's 'cheaper' at times to buy a French wine vs regional american one. but forget about "money!" think of it in terms of raw energy. all energy ultimately comes from the sun. if i forced you to use solar power alone, right now, import the wine you drink, and didn't ask you about paper bills, which could you get 'more cheaply?' one that has to come by boat or plane over vast distances, or one that could be grown and shipped with local sustainable resources over a much shorter distance?
let go of economic ideology. force and create a new model. start at home. make "them" offer us (if we must be 'capitalists') the actually cheaper options at a fair price. or burn them out of their mccmansions. your choice.
If you've only heard the Jeff Beck version here's another take on Nadia.
To re-connect in a serious way to foxes and ravens and dogs and bears and eagles.
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The difference being, we have free will.
And all the beast of the earth our ours, and we have dominion over them.
Tomorrow, on the screen porch, the pink roses just starting to bloom among the purple violets, black arisimea filling the woodland garden, the ceiling fan spinning v slow, cheese almost runny it's so soft, Le Sacre du Printemps on the stereo, lilacs and honeysuckle on the warm air, I'm happy to go up near 40 for good French wine.
Sounds wonderful.
it makes no sense, mathematically, to "more cheaply" import wine from 1/2 way around the world, vs. 1/4 of the way. in terms of "economics" ya, sure, it's 'cheaper' at times to buy a French wine vs regional american one. but forget about "money!" think of it in terms of raw energy.
Well i was saying it takes less energy (and therefore carbon emissions) to get French wine than CA wine on the East Coast.
let go of economic ideology. force and create a new model. start at home. make "them" offer us (if we must be 'capitalists') the actually cheaper options at a fair price. or burn them out of their mccmansions. your choice.
chicago dyke
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Except how do you reverse nearly 30yrs of Neoliberal economics that forces debt-ridden nations like Haiti who've been historically self-reliant, to stop growing their own food in order to import it from the very nations that control their level of debt?
By electing people who promise to continue this economic rape and pillage?
IMF, World Bank, Democrat, Repub, liberal, conservative, all committed to the same neolib doctrine.
The elites reveal their hatred of democracy by their very works. How many times have we heard, "democratic AND free market" to describe this system? Why "AND?" It either is or it isn't.
No flirting!
I watched this Thursday. It is phenomenal, terrifying, since I keep ending up in her "most at risk" categories.
Speaking of the need for the State to kill people, tomorrow is May 4.
Jeffrey Miller
Sandy Scheuer
Allison Krause
William Schroeder
10 days later at Jackson State.
Phillip Gibbs
James Green
Thanks for remembering.
Thanks for the hat tip. Oh wait...
http://economistsview.typepad.co...oming-
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