I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarhi


Gravatar'lo


Gravatarhello!


Gravatarhey!


Gravatarnothing up here but mad dogs and englishmen


GravatarOut at the plate!


GravatarI'm not english
does that make me a mad dog?


GravatarPoor Atrios, wonder if threadbot got any better?


GravatarThis is what? Paint it Black?


GravatarNeither mad, nor dog, nor Englishman I.


Gravatarhey Steve--howyadoon?


GravatarRawk out with yer cawk out!
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GravatarNeither mad, nor dog, nor Englishman I.
Deacon Blues


You must be a Coward.


GravatarA. seems to be phoning it in.


GravatarDidn't they use this clip at Abu Ghraib?


GravatarToo much fish on the deck...


GravatarAtrios needs to play more Oasis.


GravatarDavid Gregory on Edwards: "Is this another skeleton in the Democratic closet that Barack Obama must struggle to overcome?"


How does David breathe with McCain's dick so far down his throat?


GravatarBTW, the Mac sucks.


Gravatarbadboyzbadboyz
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GravatarHow does David breathe with McCain's dick so far down his throat?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


Gills.


GravatarLet us all pray that Obama kept his dick in his pants.


GravatarToday's edition of What Digby Said:

...all the celebrity gasbags deserve to have all of their own private peccadilloes exposed to the world. They have helped create this absurd political test and they are the last people who could withstand the same scrutiny. These powerful people passing judgment on politicians for things they all do themselves is what makes the Village such phony provincial hellhole.


GravatarThe young man in the foreground is really enjoying the show.

I remember what that was like...any band...as long as they were energetic with a good beat...just blissed out to be away from the humdrum for a little while, reveling in the noisy zeitgeist.


GravatarBTW, the Mac sucks.
Gomez


< Sign of the cross >


GravatarDavid Gregory on Edwards: "Is this another skeleton in the Democratic closet that Barack Obama must struggle to overcome?"

How does Edwards having an affair mean Obama has to struggle?

Shit, if that were the case, McCain couldn't get elected dog catcher with all the bullshit the GOP has in their fucking closet over the last 8 years.


GravatarBTW, the Mac sucks.

At those prices, it better swallow.


GravatarGomez: BTW, the Mac sucks.

Please! I little respect for the departed!
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GravatarDavid Gregory jumped the shark with his little dance with KKKarl Rove.


GravatarRawk out with yer cawk out!
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Or jam out with your clam out, as the case may be.


GravatarMicrosoft rulez.

/hides


GravatarHow does Edwards having an affair mean Obama has to struggle?





Wishful thinking.


GravatarEww God. You know really need a secret handshake or two in these parts.


Gravatardoes anybody really think favre will lead the jets to a superbowl??


GravatarI don't hate the Mac. I used to have several. Then one went bad, and I found how hard it was to get it fixed; unlike a Wintel box which has generic parts.

And of course I expressed my displeasure on the Mac boards and was rejected as a troll.

I took this away from the experience: it's a mistake to get any part of your identity from the Corporation whose stuff you happen to purchase.


GravatarDavid Gregory jumped the shark with his little dance with KKKarl Rove.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


He was never good. He just briefly became a darling of the left because he asked tough questions for about a week after he felt personally insulted by the Bush government. Just another Heather.


Gravatardoes anybody really think favre will lead the jets to a superbowl??
pretzelattack


Only ten million people who talk funny.


Gravatar< Sign of the cross >
Adam Hominem


Here ya go!


GravatarI think I'll not vote for McCain bcuz larry craig is queer.


GravatarBlecch. McW ads harshing my Olympics buzz. And Preznit fuckall horsing around with the beach volley ball teams.


GravatarThen one went bad, and I found how hard it was to get it fixed; unlike a Wintel box which has generic parts.

That's not true anymore.


GravatarThe Jets are in the same conference as the Patriots.

They want you to think this a coincidence.


GravatarOnly ten million people who talk funny.
Gomez


If he does, at least we won't have to look at those ridiculous cheeseheads.


GravatarAtrios is on dial-up?


GravatarBlecch. McW ads harshing my Olympics buzz. And Preznit fuckall horsing around with the beach volley ball teams.
Deacon Blues


Did he bring the binoculars to check out their asses?


GravatarThat's not true anymore.
puppethead


I know.


GravatarDid he bring the binoculars to check out their asses?
Gomez |


He patted one gal on her ass.

She should've kicked sand in his face.


GravatarI think I like the old pornographers better. Just sayin.


Gravatarhaloscan don't work for shit on one of these,btw.


GravatarHe patted one gal on her ass.

'S true, he wedges his sweaty-shirt self between them. I'm sure Pickles appreciated that little photo op.


GravatarTried watching the opening yesterday and was increasingly angered by the commercial interruptions. They had fifteen thousand people performing. They spent who knows how much time and money on the technique and the aymbolism. Given China's position in the world, I'd have thought the affair well worth not breaking up with corporate blandishments.

Then again, perhaps that was entirely compatible with the message...


Gravatardoes anybody really think favre will lead the jets to a superbowl??
pretzelattack

i heard a joke on npr the other day.

"what do you call 40 guys sitting around watching the super bowl."

the answer of course is the minnesota vikings.

but when i riddled our resident football aficionado at work he said the ny jets.


GravatarSomebody should hire one of those planes that do skywriting and have it write out MCCAIN IS AN ADULTURER over the repuke convention in Minneapolis.


Gravatari waiting for the exxon people's republic of china.


Gravatarsekmet: 'SURRENDER DOROTHY' would work, too...


GravatarOne nice thing about a new thread: It gives us another chance to resolve not to feed the tr00ls.


GravatarWombat,

You ever see a movie called North Dallas Forty? About two guys who just want to play football, but discover that it's not about football, it's about business.

The Olympics are like that. Unfortunately.


GravatarCan you get rid of the Dino Rossi ads? Probably not because this is capitalism at its best, but I don't think his target audience is located here. Forget it, just take his money and run.....


GravatarI want to know which corporate "reporters" smoke dope. Come on now. Admit it.


Gravatarand then another chance to break that resolution.


GravatarMCCAIN IS AN ADULTURER over the repuke convention in Minneapolis.
sekmet


I've been looking for sign ideas. Thanks!


Gravatari still dislike dogburne, but this cheese and port is yummy!


GravatarI saw an Obama sign in a predominately white working class neighborhood today.


Gravatar'S true, he wedges his sweaty-shirt self between them. I'm sure Pickles appreciated that little photo op.
Deacon Blues



Fucker doesn't understand the concept of an individual's personal space.


GravatarThe Olympics are like that. Unfortunately.
Adam Hominem


Not really. the American broadcast of the Olympics are. NBC ruins them every time.


GravatarScary, Andrea Mitchell totally buzzed.


GravatarNot really. the American broadcast of the Olympics are. NBC ruins them every time.
puppethead


I accept the correction.


GravatarAdam: I did see 'North Dallas Forty', and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Just read 'Playing for Pizza', John Grisham story about a failed NFL quarterback playing in Italy. Nothing deep, but a good story well told...


GravatarScary, Andrea Mitchell totally buzzed.
Le Jackel


See I'd let her go on top.


GravatarHow does David breathe with McCain's dick so far down his throat?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 8:03 pm | #
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Easy...when he needs a breath of air he pulls it out drops on all fours and has a sweating and drooling McCain shove it in his a$$.


GravatarNot really. the American broadcast of the Olympics are. NBC ruins them every time.
puppethead

Like it ruins everything else.

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Scary, Andrea Mitchell totally buzzed.
Le Jackel


I'D have to be to put up with Alan Greenspan.


GravatarScary, Andrea Mitchell totally buzzed.
Le Jackel


If you knew you had to go home to Alan Greenspan, wouldn't you?


GravatarA classic Coke to Terry C.


Gravatarwhen he needs a breath of air he pulls it out drops on all fours and has a sweating and drooling McCain shove it in his a$$.
Uncle Fester Lurks


There ya go!


GravatarJust read 'Playing for Pizza', John Grisham story about a failed NFL quarterback playing in Italy. Nothing deep, but a good story well told...
ProfWombat


I'll look for it. Thanks.

His "An Innocent Man" made me want to scream.


GravatarFucker doesn't understand the concept of an individual's personal space.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


The genius of Western Civilization is creating the idea of personal space and then violating it.


GravatarFokowi was going to tell me where the genius of Western Civilization began. Is he still around?


Gravatarwhen he needs a breath of air he pulls it out drops on all fours and has a sweating and drooling McCain shove it in his a$$.
Uncle Fester Lurks


My friends, I am in need of brain bleach here.


GravatarHis "An Innocent Man" made me want to scream.
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 8:17 pm | #

was that the guy in oklahoma?


GravatarIs he still around?
Toby Petzold




Unfortunately, YOU still are.


GravatarAdam: I'm in the minority here because of it, but I like Grisham more than not...


Gravatar(I knew that would happen.)


GravatarThe genius of Western Civilization is creating the idea of personal space and then violating it.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 8:17 pm | #

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Fokowi was going to tell me where the genius of Western Civilization began. Is he still around?
Toby Petzold




You gotta love the juxtaposition.


GravatarMaybe Chimpy will try to give the German women's clean and jerk champ a neck massage.

Darwin Award potential!


Gravatari've heard the nonfiction book is better than his fiction.


GravatarTerry, why do you reject the idea that Judeo-Christianity is the source of the genius of Western Civilization?


Gravatarpretzel: 'An Innocent Man' is better than anything else of his I've read...


GravatarDog burning isn't an Olympic event yet, is it Toby?


GravatarYou gotta love the juxtaposition.
Adam Hominem


Wit next to nitwit?


GravatarAdam: I'm in the minority here because of it, but I like Grisham more than not...
ProfWombat


Have you read "In the Woods" by Tara French (I think)? Killer, absolutely killer.

I can't read Ludlum and such; I like some simalcrum of real people in my novels. French's book is a police procedural set in Ireland. Absolutely fabulous. Best thing I've read in years, and I read about 300 books a year.


GravatarSo who would be the best in the sack?

1. Divers.

2. Swimmers.

3. Gymnasts.

4. Runners.

5. Beach volleyball players.

6. Other.


Gravatargymnasts?


GravatarToby is going to vote for John McCain not only because Toby is a racist but because McCain reminds Toby of his senile cranky and crusty old grandpa who during family dog burning parties gets shoved in a corner because he drools all over himself, lashes out at invisible people, mutters incoherently and usually has a full load in his adult diaper.


Gravatarludlum is fucking unreadable.

and I'm a fan of the genre.


Gravatarsince when have The Monkees had a girl?


Gravatargymnasts?
pretzelattack


I'd have to concur.


GravatarAlthough it might be a bit like fucking a cocker spaniel.

Not that I'm speaking from personal experience, you understand.

Say no more.


GravatarMcTaint insists he likes frottage with firemen and policemen just as much as boinking his skank ho.

QUESTION: Senator, can you describe your relationship with Vicki Iseman?

MCCAIN: Friends. Seen her on occasions, particularly at receptions and fund-raisers and appearances before the committee. I have many friends in Washington who represent various interests and those who don't, and I consider her a friend.

QUESTION: But do you feel like, in terms of your relationship with lobbyists in general, you were closer to her than with others?

MCCAIN: No, no.

I have many friends who represent various interests, ranging from the firemen to the police to senior citizens to various interests, particularly before my committee.


GravatarYour favorite OS sucks.


GravatarAha!theres the my gravatar


GravatarI've heard that Greenspan was quite a ladies' man in his day. I prefer to think that he's doing Andrea as penance.

Or, perhaps, like Nancy Reagan, she has skills that don't exhibit themselves on TV.


GravatarAdam: Amazon calls her 'Tana French'. I'll read it. Time folding on itself in Ireland, much less elsewhere, makes sense to me as serious business...


Gravatarludlum is fucking unreadable.

.....
theodoric of athens


I feel the same about James Michener


Gravatarmy friend and fellow blogger at Jesus' General (and formerly our place) MJS had a birthday. i wrote him a story as a gift, if you're in the mood for some fiction about the ancient world (it has lesbians).


Gravatarthe genius of western civilization comes from toby's anus.


Gravatar6. Other.
Gomez


7. Tongue wrestlers

8. Witches

9. Librarians


GravatarAdam Homo:

you'll be able to marry your cocker spaniel in CA before long, so take heart, weirdo


GravatarAdam: Amazon calls her 'Tana French'. I'll read it. Time folding on itself in Ireland, much less elsewhere, makes sense to me as serious business...
ProfWombat


If you don't love it, I will cheerfully refund your purchase price.


Gravatari hate ludlum, just from reading the first 3 pages or so of one of his novels. apparently the evil chinese communists were behind all the dope college students were taking during the sixties, and the head pusher, a liberal college professor, scores his stash from his chinese contact. at this point, i resolved never to read anything by ludlum again.


Gravatar10. Pole Vaulters.


Gravatarsince when have The Monkees had a girl?
Lubyanka | 08.09.08 - 8:22 pm | #
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Luby...you big, ugly, hairy ape! Go shave your fat, hairy body and stop showing your little banana to the young girls in your neighborhood, you sick pervert!


GravatarMy wife and I were watching badminton. She said she wasn't going to support the Indonesian player (she said in Indonesia the Chinese like here only supported the Chinese players), but towards the end when the Indonesian woman was about ready to put the German away, she was suddenly all for her to win. Funny how that works.


GravatarOr, perhaps, like Nancy Reagan, she has skills that don't exhibit themselves on TV.
theodoric of athens


False teeth? I always wanted to date a woman with false teeth.

Damn these dentists; making people keep them!


GravatarRead a couple of Ludlum's books and liked 'em enough. The last time I tried, maybe 20 years ago, I was almost embarrassed at how formulaic and dead it was. haven't tried since.


GravatarLubyanka | 08.09.08 - 8:25 pm |

Clearly, you spend a lot of time thinking about bestiality.


Gravataryou'll be able to marry your cocker spaniel in CA before long, so take heart, weirdo

I guess we should be glad that someone is tracking these things, but sheesh.


GravatarIf you've read one Ludlum, you've read 'em all.


GravatarAdam Homo:

you'll be able to marry your cocker spaniel in CA before long, so take heart, weirdo
Lubyanka


He likes me! He really likes me!

: blushes :


GravatarI just want to say: Fuck John Edwards!


GravatarMy Dad used to read Ludlum. He was a smart guy, otherwise.


Gravatarwhat is it with republicans and dogs? having sex with them, marrying them, burning them...


GravatarAnd fuck his little dog Toto!


GravatarThe one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...


GravatarI just want to say: Fuck John Edwards!
Cadbury


Dude, didn't you hear? He's not gay after all! I think Scooter's marriage might be in trouble though.


GravatarToby is a racist but because McCain reminds Toby of his senile cranky and crusty old grandpa who during family dog burning parties

no, no, you've got that all wrong. toby burns dogs because unlike his grandfather*, he's no longer allowed to lynch and burn black people.

*altho not sanctified by a marriage, and likely via incestuous union.


GravatarYou gotta love the juxtaposition.
Adam Hominem


I live for that.

I also have no problem with Toby--such a long history here, a kind of "house troll" if you will. Who doesn't need a "Two Minutes Hate" every now and then?

Plus...I know what it's like to be maddeningly lonely.

He and I just have different coping mechanisms. In the vast sweep of time and motion, none of it matters one bit.


Gravatarme too:

Fuck John Edwards, the guy who cheats on his dying wife...

typical Dimocrat, he?


GravatarThe one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...
ProfWombat | 08.09.08 - 8:28 pm | #

heh. the avatar of chickenhawks everywhere.


GravatarThe one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...

Read his first two books and that was all I could take. Fucking wanker


Gravatarhey chidy: hawaya?


GravatarI have read several recent puff pieces about Cindy McCain where they mention that while she met John at a garden party and they got married a year later, they leave out the inconvient fact that he was married when he met her.


GravatarThe one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...
ProfWombat


Definitely teh suck. And it's not like I'm particularly highbrow or anything.

I read Michael Connelly, for Gawdsake.


GravatarI feel the same about James Michener
Deacon Blues

me too, except for 'The Drifters'

more bass

well, the last book i read was catch 22. that's a good book.


GravatarFuck Newt, the guy who cheats on his dying wife...

Fucked your Talapia.


GravatarMeh. Seems the street price of T is down again.


Gravataryou'll be able to marry your cocker spaniel in CA before long, so take heart, weirdo
Lubyank


Are you insane, you cretinous mass of slime and blubbering font foolishness?

PETA and ALF would never allow it.


Gravatarapparently the evil chinese communists were behind all the dope college students were taking during the sixties, and the head pusher, a liberal college professor, scores his stash from his chinese contact. at this point, i resolved never to read anything by ludlum again.

Maybe, but now I want to read it!


GravatarYep, cocker spaniel.


Gravatarchicago dyke, one w/simels |

my friend and fellow blogger at Jesus' General (and formerly our place) MJS had a birthday. i wrote him a story as a gift, if you're in the mood for some fiction about the ancient world (it has lesbians).


Everybody must go read this right now.

Or, well, sometime if now is not convenient. But you must read it. I want MJS to have birthdays about every week and a half if it gets CD to write more of this story.




GravatarI read Michael Connelly, for Gawdsake.
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 8:30 pm | #

with the psychic detective? a guilty pleasure.


GravatarClancy: the bane of effeminate, passive, pacifist lefties everywhere!

you go, Clancy-dude!


GravatarWell, 'Catch 22' is amazing. Liked it even more when i reread it about 10 yrs ago than I did the first time...


GravatarCrichton went completely unreadable for me after Coma, Great Train Robbery, and Andromeda Strain.


GravatarHe and I just have different coping mechanisms. In the vast sweep of time and motion, none of it matters one bit.
Uncle Smokes


As one often called a troll, I have to agree.

Also I give Toby kudos for posting under his real name.


GravatarGymnastics is such an odd sport. The contortions and feats of strength and balance = fantastic freak show.


Gravatarwell, the last book i read was catch 22. that's a good book.
charley


I'll see your "good" and raise you a "great".


Gravatarlike Nancy Reagan, she has skills that don't exhibit themselves on TV.

i'm pretty sure you can find that on some pay channels, if not the intertubes. she was just before her time and missed her true calling/ers.


GravatarBollocks! There's a spaniel in the works.


Gravatarthe head pusher, a liberal college professor, scores his stash from his chinese contact.

Sounds like a Doonesbury strip.


GravatarCrichton went completely unreadable for me after Coma, Great Train Robbery, and Andromeda Strain.
melior


Terminal Man?


GravatarCrichton went completely unreadable for me after Coma, Great Train Robbery, and Andromeda Strain.
melior


He's like Ken Follet. They both wrote one great book, and now foolishly continue to publish rubbish.


GravatarCrichton went completely unreadable for me after Coma, Great Train Robbery, and Andromeda Strain.

That was about it for me as well with him, though I did enjoy Airframe just a little.


GravatarWhile cocker spaniels are particularly attractive, I am not inclined to fuck one.


GravatarBollocks! There's a spaniel in the works.
John Lennon


Worst of all young man you've got industrial disease.


GravatarCrichton has always left me stone cold. I don't like people who aren't particularly well informed about a subject beating me over the head with their erudition as a dramatic device...


GravatarLo these dacades later, "Coma" is still the only Robin Cook I've ever read...


Gravatarhmm i went down to the local bookstore at the mall, that usually puts the liberal books in out of the way places, and there was a whole little stand devoted to the Wrecking Crew, right up front. the times they are a changin?


GravatarLennon:

spaniel chasing spaniard


GravatarTerminal Man?
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person


OK, I forgot that one, I liked it too.


GravatarJoe Cocker! Put that spaniel dog down!


GravatarI am also not inclined to fuck Tom Clancy.


GravatarI've enjoyed everything so far in the Sue Grafton series.


GravatarWTF?! Even Chicago Dyke is slagging me?


GravatarSheesh, even I'm a better writer than Tom freakin' Clancy.


GravatarWorst of all young man you've got industrial disease.
melior


I saw Mark Knopfler last week! He came through town and rich cousin invited me!

I've dreamed of seeing him for probably 20 years or more.


GravatarThe one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...

I was fascinated by Hunt for Red October, because I was working for defense contractors at the time, and he was the first novelist I'd seen who got the technical details right.

After a couple of years, though, he regressed to soft porn. There's an amusing side story about karma here, but I won't tell it.


Gravatar/waves to xan/ the people are talking me into the larger project, so you may get your wish.

/waves to wombat/ how's trix, prof? i'd love for you to read the story, btw. your opinion would mean a lot to me.

...8 hrs in the garden today. i'm too wiped to go out tonight, sigh. it sucks to get old, sometimes.


GravatarI was thinking of Congo, not Coma.

Getting old is lame.


GravatarSounds like a Doonesbury strip.
melior | 08.09.08 - 8:32 pm | #

well, it was just following a typical conservative script of the time--the commies were behind the drugs, the civil rights movement, the protest movement.


GravatarWell, 'Catch 22' is amazing. Liked it even more when i reread it about 10 yrs ago than I did the first time...
ProfWombat

well, i've read it 3 times. the first when i was 19, i think i got the point, but you can't really relate at 19.


i didn't really grok it till i worked for the federal government.


Gravatar the times they are a changin?
pretzelattack


I rarely shop at Borders anymore, given their prominent placement of every right-wing piece of trash...

I find Barnes and Noble more sensible.


Gravatarheh, crichton fell for the uri geller shtick. also a climate change denier.


GravatarOops! I've harpooned the budgie!


GravatarI saw Mark Knopfler last week! He came through town and rich cousin invited me!

:jealous:

I remember reading that Dire Straits got their start by winning a battle of the bands in London.

If I had practiced with my mates in the garage for weeks, and then had to follow up Sultans of Swing, I think i would just cry and go home.


GravatarI read Andromeda Strain when I was abt 11. It freaked me out.

That and a bunch of Doonesbury collections were the only books I could find when we moved into this dumpy little place just outside Charlotte Amalie.


GravatarBut there are those in the cocker spaniel fucking party who hang around here.


GravatarLooking up info on McCain, I noticed that he was born in 1936 so it seems that he was a bit old to be flying jets in the 1960s.


GravatarPETA preparing legal action against the "marry any breathing thing you want" movement


Gravatari didn't really grok it till i worked for the federal government.
charley

Yes!

The book as much a slam at American bureaucatic life as an anti-war story.


GravatarI was thinking of Congo, not Coma.

Getting old is lame.
melior


Any movie with Laura Linney is a good movie, except perhaps that one.


GravatarHe's like Ken Follet. They both wrote one great book, and now foolishly continue to publish rubbish.

I don't know I'd go that far. I'd say Follett bats about .200 or .250. I enjoyed Pillars of the Earth.


GravatarLooking up info on McCain, I noticed that he was born in 1936 so it seems that he was a bit old to be flying jets in the 1960s.

Havin' the right Daddy does wonders even when you're a shitty student. Just ask George Bush.


Gravatarcongo had the least convincing movie apes i've ever seen.


GravatarIf I had practiced with my mates in the garage for weeks, and then had to follow up Sultans of Swing, I think i would just cry and go home.
melior


NO SHIT.

It was a pretty sedate show, given Knopfler being middle aged, along with most of the audience.

But Jaysus, he had us out of our seats and SCREAMING with Sultans of Swing.


GravatarThe one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...
ProfWombat

I am so fucking sick of Jack Fucking Ryan I could hurl. That one where tha Japanese airline pilot crashed into the Capitol, I said to myself, Ryan's gonna be Preznit next. And he was, and I bailed. One of the few times content, rather than style, has turned me off an author.


Gravatarit's always amused me that wingnuts in this country forget that the chicoms and other commie regimes slaughtered addicts and drug users as they came to power. they believed there was no place for them in a communist society, and that drug use was a western plot to unbalance and weaken their home nations. oddly, they turned out to be (mostly) correct.

projection: the first, and most essential quality of wingnuts everywhere.


Gravatarit seems that he was a bit old to be crashing jets in the 1960s.
sekmet


Typo, fixed, etc.


GravatarI rarely shop at Borders anymore, given their prominent placement of every right-wing piece of trash...

wow, you must not have a Books-a-Million where you are.


Gravatarprojection: the first, and most essential quality of wingnuts everywhere.
chicago dyke, one w/simels


cf dogfucking et al


GravatarI read Andromeda Strain when I was abt 11. It freaked me out.

That and a bunch of Doonesbury collections were the only books I could find when we moved into this dumpy little place just outside Charlotte Amalie.
Toby Petzold


You assclown, you probably read some cheap porno potboiler called the Androgenous Strain. In any case, that describes your dis-ease. You are the androgenous strain, and an amorphous mass of hairy blubbert cheeto stained corpulence.


Gravatarhey you never get too old to crash jets!


GravatarI don't know I'd go that far. I'd say Follett bats about .200 or .250. I enjoyed Pillars of the Earth.
theodoric of athens


As long as you only read it once. I made the mistake of buying it a second time--I thought it was the sequel, and thought, since I just paid 20 bucks for it, at least I'd enjoy it the second time.

No.


GravatarMeanie: got into one Clancy book long enough to meet a pusillanimous president, trying to keep the competent professionals from doing their job, under the malign influence of a female political science professor, from Bennington College, of all places, as his national security advisor. I nearly laughed out loud...


Gravatar/tinfoil hat on

Bush and McCain spent most of the late 1960s drinking hard likker and fucking their brains out in Alabama while others thought they were in TANG or some North Vietnamese hotel. That is where they cemented their weird relationship.

/tinfoil hat off.


Gravatarchidy: well, thank you, coming off vacation. I'll read that story and get back to you...


GravatarWell, I would fuck Jack Ryan before he got so fat and shape-shifted into an even older dude.


GravatarI enjoed the Androgenous Strain


GravatarThe identity of indiscernibles is an ontological principle which states that two or more objects or entities are identical (are one and the same entity), if they have all their properties in common. That is, entities x and y are identical if any predicate possessed by x is also possessed by y and vice versa. A related principle is the indiscernibility of identicals, discussed below.


GravatarEdwards taking paternity test?

how much did he or his campaign pay Rielle Hunter?


GravatarThe 'identity of indiscernables' is also known as Leibniz's law since a form of it is attributed to the German philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. It is one of his two great metaphysical principles, the other being the principle of sufficient reason. Both are famously used in his arguments with Newton and Clarke in the Leibniz-Clarke correspondence.


Gravatargot into one Clancy book long enough to meet a pusillanimous president, trying to keep the competent professionals from doing their job, under the malign influence of a female political science professor, from Bennington College, of all places, as his national security advisor


that is a favorite right wing script, with a bit of variation. clancy fleshes it out a bit, and becomes a millionaire.


Gravatar'The identity of indiscernibles is an ontological principle which states that two or more objects or entities are identical (are one and the same entity), if they have all their properties in common.'

Pauli's Exclusion Principle makes a mockery of this idea...


GravatarAndrogny has always left me confused...


GravatarI have been reading a series of mysteries set in Paris by Cara Black. They're not bad even though you can figure out the bad guy pretty quickly. The best part is her descriptions of modern multicultural Paris.


Gravatarthat is a favorite right wing script, with a bit of variation. clancy fleshes it out a bit, and becomes a millionaire.
pretzelattack


I'm ok with it, so long as we understand that's marketing, not literature. Give 'em what they want, and all that.


Gravatarbut my favorite book is by thomas wolfe, 'look homeward angel'.

which if i recall correctly begins thusly: out of the womb, oh lost.


GravatarMy books are well researched. I was even opposed to the Iraq invasion. So there. I'm a DFH!


GravatarA related principle is the indiscernibility of identicals, discussed below.
max | 08.09.08 - 8:43 pm | #


Well, motherfucker they are all discernible. Plus quit discussing my ass.


GravatarI enjoed the Androgenous Strain
David Bowie


I enjoyed Homo Como Coma, about a dastardly scheme to put Perry Como in a coma so as to harvest his sweaters and slacks to undermine fashion and thus thwart the gay agenda.


Gravatarleibkins, i'm not sure Chimpy has any "friends." he strikes me as too self-absorbed and concerned, too spoiled, and too shallow to ever engage in what we'd call 'friendship.' can i see him squealing like a pig while he plays butt-boi to jimmyjeff during one of the infamous 171 night time visits to the WH? sure. but everyone else in his life is a servant, good luck charm to haid-rub, or surrogate for mommy and daddy for him to boss around. also, he can't stand anyone smarter than himself, so that rules out about 99% of those who can engage in, define, or spell "friendship."


Gravatarhey maybe tobes can help us out here with this discussion of indiscernibles and such. he seems to want to debate wombat.


GravatarChidy, that story was enthralling.

You'll be writing more, won't you?

I won't take no for an answer.

Your background is in ancient near eastern studies, is it not? A wonderful mix of drama and versimilitude. I love an engaging story that I also learn from.

If you're looking for birthday excuses to share them, I have one in April you are welcome to use.

I just don't want to wait that long for another


GravatarMy favorite book is at the race track.


Gravatar The 'identity of indiscernables' is also known as Leibniz's law since a form of it is attributed to the German philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz.

aha


GravatarThe identity of indiscernibles is an ontological principle which states that two or more objects or entities are identical (are one and the same entity), if they have all their properties in common

This where van Vogt got his "20-decimal similarity"?


GravatarDimocrat Party: The Androgynous Strain


GravatarThe 'identity of indiscernables' is also known as Leibniz's law
max


Sad that the poor sod never lived to see his famous maxim shredded by quantum mechanics.


Gravatarthat is a favorite right wing script, with a bit of variation. clancy fleshes it out a bit, and becomes a millionaire.

red october made clancy a millionaire. the soft porn just made him silly rich, but one of my old college buddies took care of that.

damn, I said I wasn't going to tell that story.


Gravatarleibkins, i'm not sure Chimpy has any "friends." he strikes me as too self-absorbed and concerned, too spoiled, and too shallow to ever engage in what we'd call 'friendship.' can i see him squealing like a pig while he plays butt-boi to jimmyjeff during one of the infamous 171 night time visits to the WH? sure. but everyone else in his life is a servant, good luck charm to haid-rub, or surrogate for mommy and daddy for him to boss around. also, he can't stand anyone smarter than himself, so that rules out about 99% of those who can engage in, define, or spell "friendship."
chicago dyke, one w/simels


Someone needs to cull chidy's comments and put them in a book. Lots of wisdom there.


GravatarAlthough it might be a bit like fucking a cocker spaniel.

If Obama becomes president you will be forced to fuck spaniels in the buses that are used to carry women to their mandatory abortions. And you won't get paid for it, and neither will the bus driver or the abortionists, because Obama promises fewer jobs. He promises!


GravatarDimocrat Party: The Androgynous Stain


Gravatarlooks like lube yankee owes someone a coke.


Gravatarbut one of my old college buddies took care of that.

damn, I said I wasn't going to tell that story.
theodoric of athens


Oh, come on.


GravatarD'oh! A coke to Prof Wombat.


GravatarIf Obama becomes president you will be forced to fuck spaniels in the buses that are used to carry women to their mandatory abortions. And you won't get paid for it, and neither will the bus driver or the abortionists, because Obama promises fewer jobs. He promises!
masculine_monica_nyc


I think you forgot to take your anti-Michelle Bachman pill.


Gravatartoby seems to have left. i did so look forward to his discussion with prof wombat. hey! maybe he volunteered to go fight in iraq!


Gravatarlooks like lube yankee owes someone a coke.
theodoric of athens


He steals my lines all the time. That's why he comes here. And the drinks.

I'll just drain the lizard in it and give it back to him.


GravatarClancy was going to buy the Minnesota Vikings, once upon a time.

Turned out he was full of shit with regard to how much money he could bring to the table. Completely full of shit.

He had about a buck ninety-five.


Gravatarhey why dont you tell the story and then we can all pretend you didn't?


GravatarHey, TKK! How was your trip to Italy?


GravatarMy favorite modern novelist is John Fowles, I have read many of his books five or six time. I could pick up Daniel Martin right now and think I'm having a new experience. I love him.


GravatarIt's getting about supper time...

Y'all take care of your good selves, and thanks for the fun.


Gravatari liked the magus when i read it a long time ago.


GravatarI thought it interesting that our crack media doesn't seem to mention that Georgia is right next to Azerbajan which is right next to Iran. Oh goody, nothing like a little war in a highly volutile area.


GravatarThe trip to Italy was good. I saw everything there was to see there.


GravatarIf Obama becomes president you will be forced to fuck spaniels in the buses that are used to carry women to their mandatory abortions. And you won't get paid for it, and neither will the bus driver or the abortionists, because Obama promises fewer jobs. He promises!
masculine_monica_nyc


Great. You just handed them next week's talking points on a big sloppy platter


GravatarThose monad windows are VERY small


Gravatarthanks, adam and left rev. /blushes/

...it was very hard for me to publish that. my fiction is to me as young children are to their parents. precious and too tender for the greater world, to be protected and hidden. but i owe MJS a lot, and i thought he deserved an honest effort on my part.


GravatarEdumacated readers congregate here.

Books are so pre 9/11.


GravatarSo narcissist walks into a New York bar and meets a legendarily wacky former Gotham party girl — whose ’80s exploits were chronicled in a novel by her former boyfriend Jay McInerney because the behavior of her and her friends “intrigued and appalled me.” When you appall Jay McInerney, you know you’re in trouble.

The president manqué gives Rielle Hunter, formerly Lisa Druck, more than $114,000 to shoot vain little videos for his Web site (even though she’s a neophyte), one of which is scored with the song “True Reflections” about the Narcissus pool, which goes: “When you look into a mirror, do you like what’s looking at you? Now that you’ve seen your true reflections, what on earth are you gonna do?”

He has an affair with Hunter, while he’s honing his speech on the imperative to “live in a moral, honest, just America.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/1...ion/ 10dowd.html

= 'Using the sword given you'
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GravatarAt one point Clancy entertained notions of buying his home town NFL franchise, the Vikings. So he went out and hired a consultant, who bled him dry enough that he couldn't entertain such notions any further.

I happen to know that consultant.


GravatarMy favorite modern novelist is John Fowles, I have read many of his books five or six time. I could pick up Daniel Martin right now and think I'm having a new experience. I love him.

Yeah, some very good books from him over the years. I think my favorite is Mantissa


GravatarWell ChiDy, you did a good job of raising up that youngun.

I hope there are more ready to fly from the nest soon


GravatarSome credit card company did a commercial with Tom Clancy wearing an army helmet and sitting in a fox hole which is complete bullshit because Clancy never served.


GravatarThose monad windows are VERY small
leibniz leibkins


You haven't upgraded to monad vista yet?


GravatarMy favorite modern novelist is John Fowles, I have read many of his books five or six time. I could pick up Daniel Martin right now and think I'm having a new experience. I love him.
me


Daniel Martin did not work for me. The Magus and FLW are wonderful, I've read each one over and over and always find something new.

Duplicate post my ass!


GravatarI think you forgot to take your anti-Michelle Bachman pill.

It's possible I took too many.


GravatarDeadthreaded
McCain Camp: Obama "Bizarrely In Sync With Moscow"
http:// tpmelectioncentral.talkin...izarrely_in.php


GravatarSome credit card company did a commercial with Tom Clancy wearing an army helmet and sitting in a fox hole which is complete bullshit because Clancy never served.
sekmet


I am always served - at the bar.


GravatarDude, you are so twentieth century.


Gravatari liked the magus when i read it a long time ago."
--pretzelattack

He reissued a revised addition. It's not my favorite, but the mood he sets in that book is amazing.


GravatarAt one point Clancy entertained notions of buying his home town NFL franchise, the Vikings. So he went out and hired a consultant, who bled him dry enough that he couldn't entertain such notions any further.

normally i would be sympathetic to the writer in this story. heh.


GravatarI wrote post 9/11 fiction pre 9/11. I was way berfore my time when I was passed my prime.


GravatarI think the last modern fiction writer I read was Carl Hiassen, which I read over and over because he cracks my shit up.

Mostly, I read a lot of theology-currently reading John Crossen, God and Empire right now, for the second time. He rocks pretty hard.


GravatarSo narcissist walks into a New York bar

tl;dr.

...and then Tonto's tribal chief said, "We let the cattle range free around here, so be careful you don't step in any Kemo Sabe."


Gravatar McCain Camp: Obama "Bizarrely In Sync With Moscow"

My opponent is in league with the Politburo!


Gravatarpassed? Too mush whishkey?


Gravatarsekmet, the SCLM doesn't know where those nations are on a map, let alone the significance of a conflict in noo-kyu-lar states nearby. besides, edwards has a penis and uses it! stop the presses!

Turned out he was full of shit with regard to how much money he could bring to the table. Completely full of shit.

the number of wingnuts competent with money is near zero; you philosophy types can come up with the appropriate theory to describe that figure. but take away wingnut and corporate welfare, the 'good old boys club' of opportunity and advancement over those with merit, establishment and inheritance, and 99% of them will fail. even when they have millions, or billions, or trillions (such as in chimpy's case), the best they can usually do is blow it while enriching some of their slightly smarter friends. it's reason #239452943 why i am an arachist and anit-capitalist; capitalism is just another word for "i'm dumb and i need to be handed everything" as said by winger white guys and now, their brown tyrannical buddies who sit atop oil.


Gravatar
My opponent is in league with the Politburo!
The Kenosha Kid


I have here in my hand the names of ...


GravatarObama's supposed to be 'mysteriously' in synch with Moscow? How 'bout Dear Leader's "seeing into Putin's soul" line?

Or is this Bush's "romantic" side off-limits, too?


GravatarSome credit card company did a commercial with Tom Clancy wearing an army helmet and sitting in a fox hole which is complete bullshit because Clancy never served.

He failed an ROTC eye examine. At least it wasn't anal cysts.


GravatarThat was Putin's other soul. The one he keeps in a jar by the door.


GravatarMy favorite modern novelist is John Fowles, I have read many of his books five or six time. I could pick up Daniel Martin right now and think I'm having a new experience. I love him.

I have a friend who lived on an island. There were twin sisters and he ended up sleeping with one. He was like a living Fowler novel.


Gravatarheh, he couldn't even make into rotc? lifelong wannabe.


GravatarSo, today I spent the day browsing Wikipedia's various articles on the countries, peoples, languages, and history of the Caucasus region.

With some diversions into the Mongol empire and the country of Kazakhstan.

I think there are going to be conficts in Georgia for a long time.


GravatarUp now on the "online" Olympics coverage: men's basketball. Russia vs. Iran.


GravatarThe one he keeps in a jar by the door.

robert bloch?


GravatarThat was Putin's other soul. The one he keeps in a jar by the door.
sekmet


Huh. Eleanor Rigby kept rice in a jar by the door.

Coincidence? I think not.


GravatarYour friend slept with one of his twin sisters? That's sick, dude.


GravatarHe failed an ROTC eye examine

What a coincidence, so did I. I briefly considered going on to write really crappy military/political potboilers that people would read on airplane flights, then toss into the nearest garbage can at their destination, but my life went in different directions.

Sigh


GravatarI think the last modern fiction writer I read was Carl Hiassen, which I read over and over because he cracks my shit up.
left rev., rookie cheesehead


Heh, I finally exhausted every Elmore Leonard in the greater library system including some relatively weak older westerns and so I've moved on to Hiassen now.

I'm about halfway thru his oeuvre and so far Skinny Dip is my favorite.


GravatarWould somebody care to explain this photo to me?


GravatarSo narcissist walks into a New York bar and meets a legendarily wacky former Gotham party girl...

Once again, it's about who wouldn't fuck Dowd and she'll show them BOTH, goddammit!


Gravatari am also an anarchist wrt spelling, as you can see.

So he went out and hired a consultant, who bled him dry enough that he couldn't entertain such notions any further.

HRC feels his pain.


Gravatar Clancy never served.

bragged about it. how amazing it was that an insurance agent could get an unprecedented level of technical detail into his military novels.

at least I never heard him claim not to be a chickenhawk.


Gravatari kinda like tim dorsey, though i'm tired of his style right now.


Gravatar"I got a ja-a-a-r full of soul"


GravatarWould somebody care to explain this photo to me?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


I wouldn't know where to begin.


GravatarThat was Putin's other soul. The one he keeps in a jar by the door.
sekmet


"I've got a piece of John F. Kennedy's head. I keep it a jar beside my bed."
- Mojo Nixon


Gravatara commercial with Tom Clancy wearing an army helmet and sitting in a fox hole which is complete bullshit because Clancy never served.


Neither did Arte Johnson.
http://www.rowanandmartinslaughi...om/ wolfgang.jpg
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GravatarWould somebody care to explain this photo to me?

Girl on left: "So is this how you shit on the Constitution?"


GravatarWould somebody care to explain this photo to me?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


Well, two out of three ain't bad.


GravatarLet's not even bring up W.E.B. Griffin.


GravatarWould somebody care to explain this photo to me?


watertiger already has:

http://www.dependablerenegade.co...ant- bounce.html


GravatarHeh, I finally exhausted every Elmore Leonard in the greater library system including some relatively weak older westerns and so I've moved on to Hiassen now.

I'm about halfway thru his oeuvre and so far Skinny Dip is my favorite.
melior


Its a toss up between Skinny Dip and Native Tongue for me.


GravatarWhy does it look like he's trying to slap that young woman's ass?


Gravatari'm not sure jay mcinerney's fiction is the best source for news.


GravatarStalin was Georgian, you know.


Gravatar the 'good old boys club' of opportunity and advancement over those with merit, establishment and inheritance, and 99% of them will fail. even when they have millions, or billions, or trillions (such as in chimpy's case), the best they can usually do is blow it while enriching some of their slightly smarter friends. it's reason #239452943 why i am an arachist and anit-capitalist; capitalism is just another word for "i'm dumb and i need to be handed everything" as said by winger white guys and now, their brown tyrannical buddies who sit atop oil.
chicago dyke, one w/simels


The Drunkards Walk is a pretty good book. Basically, all success is mostly luck.

Also people who think the world is a meritocracy are full of shit. Look at Dubya.


GravatarHBK- i like you, i really do. please don't make me look at such again. i must purge and smoke and take strong medication now, to clear my memory of tht image. ick.


GravatarIt's not unusual.
.


GravatarWhat about W.E.B. DuBois?


GravatarChiDy! I would buy you in hardcover!


GravatarWould somebody care to explain this photo to me?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiant


Let's all hope it's just the tramp stamp and he's not sniffing something.


Gravatarwatertiger already has:

http://www.dependablerenegade.co...ant- bounce.html


We have a winner! Thanks for playing, everyone else.


GravatarChiDy! I would buy you in hardcover!
catalexis


Well who WOULDN'T?

Oh...you mean her stories? Well, that too, of course.


GravatarI neglected to mention that, earlier while at the Great Lakes Folk Festival - we picked up some nice organic cotton (unbleached even) OBAMA shirts.

Very suitable for tyedying.


Gravatari'm not sure jay mcinerney's fiction is the best source for news.
pretzelattack


Neither is MoDo's column.


GravatarTurned out he was full of shit with regard to how much money he could bring to the table. Completely full of shit.

I guess that's why he's been renting out his name to that "Ops Center" series the past few years...


GravatarGreetings.

What the fuck is on Kerri Walsh's shoulder?


GravatarIt's not unusual.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian


Tome Jones rocks!

I tossed my boxers up on stage. My room key was wrapped up in them.


GravatarMcInerney for news, Clancy for geopolitical strategy... and Bush is gearing up for the John Ritter role in the movie version of "Three's Company".

Cheney is still negotiating... he wants the Norman Fell landlord, producers think he'd be a better Don Knotts.


GravatarThe trip to Italy was good. I saw everything there was to see there.

Pulo!


GravatarVery suitable for tyedying.
Barndog, cooler than you


You're right. You are cooler than me


GravatarBTW WTF is that on the other girl's shoulder?

If it's a tattoo it's the most hideous one I've ever seen.


GravatarCulture of TrÜth: What the fuck is on Kerri Walsh's shoulder?

An African swallow.
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GravatarTurned out he was full of shit with regard to how much money he could bring to the table. Completely full of shit.

well, apparently he had some before he hired a consultant.


GravatarYou are cooler than me

Not like that actually.

Temperature cooler.


Gravatarfokowi: ignoring it's good enough for me...

Gomez: an honest accounting of the Bush years--a great deal to hope for--and, of course, much else of American history, really wouldn't allow for a shred of American exceptionalism to persist...
ProfWombat | 08.09.08 - 7:49 pm | #
where to begin?
fokowi

but not cutting and pasting the trolls?
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 7:49 pm | #


hey. i should've typed: where to begin...

it was meant to be a rhetorical statement. you know, one of those that at the same time wasn't looking for a response nor was worth the electrons expended to create.

i blame the bloody mary's.

oh, yeah. and that fucking simels.


GravatarMy favorite book is at the race track.
Clancy at the Bar

"get to the door, lost my house key, i read bukowsik." RHCP

who ever says sax is not the sexiest instrument, is just wrong.


Gravatarwell, apparently he had some before he hired a consultant.
pretzelattack


Yeah.


GravatarNope, it ain't unusual.


GravatarMostly, I read a lot of theology-currently reading John Crossen, God and Empire right now, for the second time. He rocks pretty hard.
left rev., rookie cheesehead


My favorite theology/ancient history author is Richard Carrier.


GravatarThe WIKI entry on Georgia mentions that George W. Bush is the first sitting president to visit Georgia. People should know better than to invite that jinx to visit.


GravatarWould somebody care to explain this photo to me?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiant


Misty May asked Bush to slap her on the butt for good luck, as is tradition in volleyball.

Stupid, to his credit, declined.


GravatarStalin was Georgian, you know.
theodoric of athens | 08.09.08 - 9:05 pm | #

So is Jimmy Carter!


GravatarStupid, to his credit, declined.
Culture of TrÜth


What is he, about 60? Only took 60 years for him to perform one act of grace.


Gravatarwho ever says sax is not the sexiest instrument, is just wrong.
charley


To drink Scotch whiskey all night long, and die behind the wheel.


GravatarThe WIKI entry on Georgia mentions that George W. Bush is the first sitting president to visit Georgia. People should know better than to invite that jinx to visit.
sekmet


Is there any possibility we could pay them to keep him?


GravatarOnly took 60 years for him to perform one act of grace.
Adam Hominem


You're not counting all the times he held a girl's hair while she puked.


GravatarI still don't understand how people could have ever admitted publicly to being John Edwards supporters. I mean, jeeze: the guy was less qualified to be President than Dan Fucking Quayle. What sort of self-lobotomizing must you endure to think he would have been a good President?


GravatarI was thinking of foregoing beer, tonight, but I'm having second thoughts.
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Gravatari'm pretty shocked he declined, since he usually likes to invade people's personal space. maybe it is because she invited him to.


GravatarHave a good evening everyone. I've got some good reading suggestions if I ever get time to utilize them.

ChiDy, again. Great story. Thank you for sharing it with us.


GravatarHeh. The Chimp in Chief is outraged -- OUTRAGED! -- that one country has invaded another.


Gravatarsuskind: i have the tapes. please subpoena me.

dems: la la la la, i can't hear you.


GravatarSo I've mentioned this several times, but this NBC online Olympics coverage totally rocks.

Why? NO ANNOUNCERS! No "inspirational" anecdotes, no cutting away from the action for a weepy ten-minute "human interest" piece... just regular camera work and an unnamed NBC drone typing brief comments in a box alongside the video (and in the case of last night's women's fencing, a rather pithy drone at that)...


GravatarI was thinking of foregoing beer, tonight, but I'm having second thoughts

I didn't forego beer.


GravatarWhat the fuck is on Kerri Walsh's shoulder?

A velvet homage.


GravatarWhoa, now that's some good spoofing.


GravatarHe's stupid, not an idiot.


GravatarSo no history lessons from fokowi. Oh, well...


GravatarI still don't understand how people could have ever admitted publicly to being John Edwards supporters. I mean, jeeze: the guy was less qualified to be President than Dan Fucking Quayle. What sort of self-lobotomizing must you endure to think he would have been a good President?
Toby Petzold


Pretty funny, coming from a guy who supports the most unqualified one of all.


Gravatarthe guy was less qualified to be President than Dan Fucking Quayle

How do you figure that? Is coming from a rich family an instant pass or something?


GravatarThere is a street named after Bush in Tbilisi. Now wouldn't it be ironic if it got blown all to shit.


GravatarBarndog: I didn't forego beer.

Well, I gotta go fetch it, then. I best start now!
bbl
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GravatarYou're not counting all the times he held a girl's hair while she puked.

I have the distinct feeling that was the other way around... a lot of women got their hair filthy holding his head while he puked....


GravatarTo drink Scotch whiskey all night long, and die behind the wheel.
melior


Sue me if I play too long!


GravatarWhy do they always go for the ones who can't keep their mouths shut?


GravatarBoth Dan Quayle and John Edwards were over 35 and natural-born citizens.

But for those requirements, my terriers would be as fully qualified to be vice-president as, say, Richard B. Fucking Cheney.


Gravatargaii, to his credit and the shame of the queer community, declined.
Culture of TrÜth


fyt.

Dog, what colors do you think would be good for the dye? black and white? a mix of the kenyan, american, and traditional islamic flags? /scampers/


GravatarR.I.P. Bernie Mac.


GravatarThey're always "old souls"


Gravatari've read that einstein played around. didn't seem to affect his work, much.


GravatarWhy do they always go for the ones who can't keep their mouths shut?

you can't give a mouth hug with a... oh never mind.


GravatarThat black thing stimulates lymph node drainage. Ewwww. I would have preferred to continue thinking someone got silly with a sharpie.


Gravatarwho ever says sax is not the sexiest instrument, is just wrong.
charley


Naked woman with cello. No match.


GravatarSo, today I spent the day browsing Wikipedia's various articles on the countries, peoples, languages, and history of the Caucasus region.

With some diversions into the Mongol empire and the country of Kazakhstan.

I think there are going to be conficts in Georgia for a long time.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:00 pm | #


I've no idea of the accuracy of Wiki's Caucasus entries. I only know from what I've read a long time ago back in the days of the USSR.

It's one of those regions I suspect would do better if their larger and more powerful neighbors (especially the Russians) would leave them alone.


GravatarHer latest project was John Edwards. Edwards, she said, was an old soul who had barely tapped into any of his potential. The real John Edwards, she believed, was a brilliant, generous, giving man who was driven by competing impulses—to feed his ego and serve the world.

*cack*


GravatarThe WIKI entry on Georgia mentions that George W. Bush is the first
sitting president to visit Georgia. People should know better than to
invite that jinx to visit.

Georgia deliberately changed their flag from a brown field with a black and white canton to an unmistakeable crusader theme, red crosses on a white field. They sent troopps to Iraq and Afghanistan. Posters in the capital show W almost as much as the nation's leader. The road to the national airport is called George W Bush Road. Is there a pattern here?


GravatarSwiftboating, n. Telling the truth abt the character, claims, or actions of a Democratic politician that cannot be disputed without verifying the truth of the initial assertion.


GravatarHer speech was peppered with New Age jargon—human beings were dragged down by "blockages" to their actual potential; history was the story of souls entering and escaping our field of consciousness. A seminal book for her had been Eckhart Tolle's "The Power of Now." Her purpose on this Earth, she said, was to help raise awareness about all this, to help the unenlightened become better reflections of their true, repressed selves.

Kids, Don't Do Drugs.


GravatarSomebody attacked and killed some American toursists and then jumped to his death in Beijing.


GravatarThe nerve of Rudi to think that a thrice-married horndog could run for public office!


GravatarGeorge W. Bush is the first
sitting president to visit Georgia.


And he'll be the quickest to be invited to leave.


GravatarStalin was Georgian, you know.
theodoric of athens | 08.09.08 - 9:05 pm | #

So is Jimmy Carter!
Prior Aelred


/winger logic/
"and therefore, the US must support the russian invasion against a communist threat. oh, wait..."

/winger head exploding/


GravatarComment by Toby Petzold | Homepage blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]

Kids, Don't Huff Paint.


Gravatari've read that einstein played around. didn't seem to affect his work, much.
pretzelattack


With women and the violin. Where do you think Jack Benny got the idea?


GravatarI have to remove a blockage to my human potential. BRB.


GravatarI'm getting sick of all this corporate slobberage over Michael Phelps.


Gravatargomez, what are you quoting from?


GravatarSwiftboating, n.

Jesus, Toby, can it be that you really don't understand that we ignore and/or ridicule you, not because you are right and we resent you, but simply because you are so fucking boring and one-note?

Never mind that that one note is a really dorky-sounding foghorn.


Gravatar"blockages"? That sounds like scientolgy.


GravatarTlaz:

How do you figure that? Is coming from a rich family an instant pass or something?

No, I mean on paper. Objectively. Quayle was more qualified by more areas of historically recognized experience expected of Presidents than was Edwards.


GravatarAll Toby's dreams of running his fingers through that $400 haircut dashed. He'll never forgive him for being straight. Never.


GravatarSwiftboating, n. Telling the truth abt the character, claims, or actions of a Democratic politician that cannot be disputed without verifying the truth of the initial assertion.

Deluded, lying fucking asshole.

But, then, Putzoid, being a deluded, lying fucking asshole is your metier.


Gravataryeah yeah... Einstein, Eisenhower, JFK,... it's a wonder we're not all speaking German or commie talk...


GravatarWell, back to the O-lympics. Now how did the moonbats accomplish that?


Gravatar WHAT RIELLE TOLD ME


GravatarSomebody attacked and killed some American toursists and then jumped to his death in Beijing.
Clancy at the Bar


The TV in the bar you're in must be on like a 10 hour delay.


Gravatari've read that einstein played around. didn't seem to affect his work, much.
pretzelattack


That's nothin' -- check out Surely You Must Be Joking, Mr. Feynman.


Gravatark&y- it's not like there are a lot of 'good' regimes over there, nor anywhere, these days. all i have is feeling for the poor and regular folk, who probably don't understand why bombs are falling, and who likely just went along to get along, politcally speaking, with the more powerful who lead their various nations. the poor and conscripted and women and children always lose, in any war.


GravatarMcCain just ran an ad on the Olympics - wow I didn't know he was a liberal democrat and Obama was big toothed celebrity.


GravatarThe woman is a 24 karat space cadet.


GravatarWell, as far as dictionary definitions go, it needs some tightening, but I'll submit it to Noah Webster yet.


GravatarSurely You Must Be Joking, Mr. Feynman.

Don't call me Shirley! /Mr. Feynman


GravatarShe tried to hit on the reporter.


GravatarThe woman is a 24 karat space cadet.
Gomez


That's simels' dream woman you're talking about.


GravatarThe woman is a 24 karat space cadet.
Gomez


If she promised not to talk much...


Gravatar"I feel a special connection between us"


GravatarThe TV in the bar you're in must be on like a 10 hour delay.
Adam Hominem


I just woke up and hit the lounge. I'm a best selling novelist, not a banker!


GravatarIt's one of those regions I suspect would do better if their larger and more powerful neighbors (especially the Russians) would leave them alone.

Well, they don't seem to be helping things, but there are several areas of current Georgia that don't really want to be part of Georgia anymore. The Ossetians want to join Alania (North Ossetia) and much of what used to be known as Colchis would also like to be independent. In fact, the Abkhazians are taking advantage of the situation by launching assaults against the Georgians in Kodori Gorge.


GravatarI hear that I know my dick is getting sucked.


GravatarI'd bet money she wasn't born with the name Rielle.


Gravatarit's not like there are a lot of 'good' regimes over there, nor anywhere, these days.

This is a lot simpler than that. Russia has a lot you could criticize it for. Georgia has a lot you could criticize it for. Recently, Georgia killed Russians in the attempt to kill Ossetians. They are getting exactly what they apparently wanted -- maybe instead of Israeli military advisors they should've had Germans.


GravatarMcCain's ads targeting the all important Uyghur-American vote.


Gravatargeez gomez, you really know how to cheer a former edwards supporter up.


GravatarHi ChiDY -- hauw U B ?


Gravatar"I feel a special connection between us"
Gomez


What is it with these Southern boys and their taste for skanky women?


GravatarIn thought Rael was the 24 karat space cadet? There are two?


GravatarNo, I mean on paper. Objectively. Quayle was more qualified by more areas of historically recognized experience expected of Presidents than was Edwards.

/taps foot

I'm waiting....


GravatarLisa Druck.


GravatarWell. The woman is a 24 karat space cadet.


24 carat diamonds are scratchy.


GravatarMay I please haz some chocolate?  Or a jammy doughnut, either one.


GravatarDo Do Drucks.


GravatarWhat is it with these Southern boys and their taste for skanky women?
Adam Hominem


You never danced with a girl from Texas? You're missin' out.


Gravatarquayle played golf. that is one area right there.


GravatarDoes anyone know if the Obama campaign is in any way linked to the firm that came up with the "O" hand gesture?

Fun Fact: Germans are banned by law from giving the Nazi salute in public.


GravatarCorrection. Don't Do Drucks.


Gravatark&y- it's not like there are a lot of 'good' regimes over there, nor anywhere, these days. all i have is feeling for the poor and regular folk, who probably don't understand why bombs are falling, and who likely just went along to get along, politcally speaking, with the more powerful who lead their various nations. the poor and conscripted and women and children always lose, in any war.
chicago dyke, one w/simels | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:23 pm |


Sad thing is there has been intermittent fighting there for almost 20 years. You fight, you rebuild, and then fight some more. And most of it appears to be stupid 'leadership', including Russia antogonizing Georgia.


GravatarThey are getting exactly what they apparently wanted -- maybe instead of Israeli military advisors they should've had Germans.

k&y, nyarlathotep


Given the gruesome Chechnyian example, you'd have to be a bloodthirsty maniac to want to go to war with Russia.


GravatarNo, I mean on paper.

Toby does it on the paper or he gets the hose again.


Gravatarit sez a lot about our times that pols have chippies like that. in other times, "those women" have often been beautiful, skilled, brainy, and political operators in their own rights, as much desired by cheating pols for their intellects as for their shape/ability to suck golf balls thru garden hoses toothlessly. today, our leaderz want to have at it with the geniuses like jimmyjeff, "gifted youngsters", bath stall cruise queens, and now astral projection lady. sigh. gimme a pompadour anyday, you know?


GravatarHagee must be having a hookers and blow party.


GravatarMars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe.
- Toby's lust muffin


GravatarWhat is it with these Southern boys and their taste for skanky women?
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 9:27 pm | #


What an asshole that guy is.


GravatarEdwards met her in a bar in Manhattan.

WTF was he doing there?


GravatarI didn't know how that lady said her name until I heard Wolf Blitzer say it.

See: Big Media still validates all truths.

Is she a Raelian? That's what it sounds like to me. Maybe it's a clone of Edwards' dead son with the offending appendage removed.


Gravatarwho ever says sax is not the sexiest instrument, is just wrong.
charley



Bass CLARinet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h? v=SzqVXvwMHCU


Gravatarif everyone knows that bush lied us into war, and suskind has evidence, where are the democrats?


Gravatari mean, i'm trying to retain some respect for edwards, and now i find out he risked it all for, as c.d. said, an "astral projection queen".


GravatarDogburner: a frustrated, lonely, and blobby coward - who takes joy in the torture of defenseless animals as his only hope for power in his miserable life


Gravatar There's a woman who has written a couple of autobiographical novels, whose name escapes me right now because if the Alzheimers. Anyway, she was from Texas, and at one point in one of the books described a good date as one in which you came home, took off your underwear, threw them at the wall, and if they stuck, then it had been a good date.

The Liars Club. That's one of the books. Her name still escapes me tho.


GravatarThe Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.
- Toby's dream date


GravatarGood to see the McCain campaign wasting money on prime time TV ads in NY where they are going to get buried by double digits.


GravatarBari sax gives me a chubby.


GravatarChocolate?  Anybody?


GravatarAnd most of it appears to be stupid 'leadership', including Russia antogonizing Georgia.

No, it really isn't that simple, and Georgia actually shares in a good part of the blame in this situation. Saakashvili, after he was elected, said that he was going to crack down on secessionist areas, despite the people in South Ossetia holding a referendum in 2006 which said they wanted to be independent of Georgia.


GravatarNBC is now going to explain to me whey women's beach volleyball is so doggone popular.


Gravatarchidyke, she'd be like shooting fish in a barrel for you.


GravatarToby does it on the paper or he gets the hose again.
Clancy at the Bar | 08.09.08 - 9:28 pm | #


No, don't do it again. The last time I was in Rome the same thing happened to me.


Gravatarif everyone knows that bush lied us into war, and suskind has evidence, where are the democrats? -gary in fl

building # 7


Gravatari mean, i'm trying to retain some respect for edwards, and now i find out he risked it all for, as c.d. said, an "astral projection queen".
pretzelattack | 08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #


I'd be totally sympathetic to someone who risked and even lost it all outta lust, but not to someone who was prepared to drag the country down with him.


GravatarMay I please haz some chocolate?

We just got back from having s'mores with neighbors around their campfire. They have more.


GravatarYou never danced with a girl from Texas? You're missin' out.
melior


Damn drugs.

There's a woman who has written a couple of autobiographical novels, whose name escapes me right now because if the Alzheimers. Anyway, she was from Texas, and at one point in one of the books described a good date as one in which you came home, took off your underwear, threw them at the wall, and if they stuck, then it had been a good date.

The Liars Club. That's one of the books. Her name still escapes me tho.


GravatarTo drink Scotch whiskey all night long, and die behind the wheel.
melior

how many times have i listened to this song and not realized the reference of Deacon Blues' moniker, or even your reference.

a lot of times.


GravatarIt's one of those regions I suspect would do better if their larger and more powerful neighbors (especially the Russians) would leave them alone.

Well, they don't seem to be helping things, but there are several areas of current Georgia that don't really want to be part of Georgia anymore. The Ossetians want to join Alania (North Ossetia) and much of what used to be known as Colchis would also like to be independent. In fact, the Abkhazians are taking advantage of the situation by launching assaults against the Georgians in Kodori Gorge.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:25 p


Georgian behavior toward the Ossestians, especially during the first battles back in the early 1990's, has been stupid and appalling. It doesn't help that the breakaway areas are being encouraged by Russia.


Gravatari mean, i'm trying to retain some respect for edwards, and now i find out he risked it all for, as c.d. said, an "astral projection queen".
pretzelattack


Huh?

He married the hot brainy one, he just got his ashes hauled on the side by the coo coo blondie. Does that sound like a bad move to you?


GravatarThe woman is a 24 karat space cadet.

I cannot believe a rich and powerful man would go for that type!

BTW, remind me: I'm supposed to give a flying fuck because exactly why???


Gravatarlove you buckeye
look forward to meeting you


GravatarYatching was an Olympic sport for a few years.


Gravatar
We just got back from having s'mores with neighbors around their campfire. They have more.


S'mores?  Will they deliver?


Gravatarin our nation's history. I mean in this century's history.

There are eight planets in our nation's solar system.


Gravatarswiftboating, n. the promotion of lies about a Democratic candidate, crafted in such a manner that no level of fact can satisfactorily dispute them, the intent of which is to force the candidate to bear the onus of proof normally required of the promoter of such lies. See "dirty tricks," "Nixonian politics," and "Lee Atwater."


GravatarChocolate? Anybody?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian


Gives Dove milk chocolate to GWPDA.

I couln't get to TJ's for the good belgian stuff.


GravatarGiven the gruesome Chechnyian example, you'd have to be a bloodthirsty maniac to want to go to war with Russia.

War Nerd is chilling to read on Chechnya. Apparently Russia tried to end their Chechen problem by ethnically cleansing them, deporting them all to a camp out East. But they didn't kill them. And the Chechens were consumed with revenge. Allegedly, all the Chechens did in their camps all day was fight. Wake up, go to a neighbor's tent, yell a challenge, fight with breaks for meals, sleep. The Chechens were extremely good fighters by the end of this, and when allowed to return to their country they forgot none of what was done to them, but they became an illustration of another great warrior culture more eager to die gloriously than to win. Russians wasted massive amounts of ordnance, wiping them out from a distance at negligible cost to themselves; the Chechens who survive are not alumni of the school of constant fighting. They might as well have worn ghost shirts.


GravatarI am sure that within the first five minutes of meeting Rielle she'd have already told me every gory detail of how Edwards did her.


Gravatarit sez a lot about our times that pols have chippies like that. in other times, "those women" have often been beautiful, skilled, brainy, and political operators in their own rights, as much desired by cheating pols for their intellects as for their shape/ability to suck golf balls thru garden hoses toothlessly. today, our leaderz want to have at it with the geniuses like jimmyjeff, "gifted youngsters", bath stall cruise queens, and now astral projection lady. sigh. gimme a pompadour anyday, you know?
chicago dyke, one w/simels


There was a time, too, when even TV newscasters were nothing to look at. But they knew their business.

They're all gone now.


Gravatark&y- i'm so sick of wars of choice at this point, the reasons hardly matter anymore. i'm feeling like some bad winger sci-fi author, motivated to write about our species 'genetic need to kill itself periodically.'

Prior: fine! how are you? you, of all people after rmj and hecate, need to go over to my blog and read my fiction story i just put up. i think you'll like it. or we can fight about it, in a fun way.


GravatarGives Dove milk chocolate to GWPDA.

nom, nom, nom, nom.


'ENkew.


GravatarGood Lord, what the hell is this "Project Torque" thing?


Gravatarhow many times have i listened to this song and not realized the reference of Deacon Blues' moniker, or even your reference.

a lot of times.
charley


Thanks for that link!


GravatarBTW, remind me: I'm supposed to give a flying fuck because exactly why???
dave™©


Because I can present it in a mildly humorous way?


GravatarIsn't journalism a euphemism for having sex with married politicians?


GravatarThere was a time, too, when even TV newscasters were nothing to look at. But they knew their business.

"Good night, Chet."

"Good night, David."

*sigh*


Gravatar/taps foot

I'm waiting....


If I lived where you live I wouldn't have that kind of time on my hands.

just saying.


Gravatar'ENkew.


You are most welcome. I'm an addict. It wasn't easy.


GravatarThey might as well have worn ghost shirts.

k&y, nyarlathotep


Yeah. When faced with overpowering ordinance, it's always a good idea to surrender or run.

Not sacrifice every civilian within miles along with yourselves.


Gravatarwell, i just hope it was lust, and not because he thought he had found his intellectual soulmate.


Gravatar"Good night, Chet."

"Good night, David."


HEY KATIE!!!!SHOW ME YOUR TITS!!!!!!


Gravatarin other times, "those women" have often been beautiful, skilled, brainy, and political operators in their own rights
chidyke


I have a secret fantasy of traveling back in time and doing Dorothy Parker.


GravatarBecause I can present it in a mildly humorous way?

And look damn good doing it, too!


GravatarThere was a time, too, when even TV newscasters were nothing to look at. But they knew their business.

They're all gone now.
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 9:35 pm | #


ummn, not really. chet huntley and eric serveid and others were not too swift either. just selected for different cosmetic reasons.

Cronkite was smart, but he was an exception.


GravatarA small, and entirely unimportant note.  After some five years or so of horrible endocrinological issues, today I discovered that my BMI is finally, finally, back within the 'normal' range.  This, along with several other indicators, tells me that I am not going to die to-morrow and indeed, am going to be all right, generally.  I iz very pleased.  Endocrinologists are very gud peoples. 

Give me chocolate! 


GravatarWell, you can't always get what you want.


Gravatarcongratulations gwpda!


GravatarIsn't journalism a euphemism for having sex with married politicians?
A. Dumas, token black dood


Best line from a Carl Hiaasen novel:
"Ready, son? Let's go commit journalism."


Gravatar


chicago dyke, one w/simels

We have read an nitriguing "grand unifying" conspiracy theory that sex scandals have been overtaken by blackmail, to the extent that aspiring politicians are turned gay so that the last drops of public disapproval of homosexuality can be exploited to ruin them if they ever disobey their masters. Once homosexuality goes all the way out shocking numbers of politicians will be found to have been secret paedos, unless that gets normal, at which time we expect that kittens will next. It sounds easy to dismiss that someone could be turned gay, especially if he's part of a militantly homophobic subculture, but we have actually met these creepy soulless empty-eyed Bob Roberts extras Young Republicans who would do anything to get in the special clubs in suburban Eastern Virginia...


Gravatar
Not sacrifice every civilian within miles along with yourselves.


But their children's children's children are going to need a reason to hate Russians!


GravatarI saw Steely Dan live Monday night. Sadly, they did not play my eponymous anthem


GravatarGeorgian behavior toward the Ossestians, especially during the first battles back in the early 1990's, has been stupid and appalling. It doesn't help that the breakaway areas are being encouraged by Russia.

Very true. Ossetia was sort of split into two during the last century, with about a third of the land area plunked into Georgia. North Ossetia has apparently had problems of it's own, with people fleeing west from Chechnya, and then there is Ingushetia in between. The Ingush were accused of cooperating with the Nazis and deported to Gulags in Kazakhstan; they were allowed to return in the late 1950s, but by then Ossetians had been moving in to claim the territory.

The whole are is a huge mishmash of linguistic and ethnic groups, there are over 15 languages spoken in the Caucasus region, probably lots of old wounds to nurture, just like in the Balkans.


Gravatari mean, i'm trying to retain some respect for edwards, and now i find out he risked it all for, as c.d. said, an "astral projection queen".

Is that what they're calling star fuckers these days?


GravatarI wonder if the head in Patrick Bateman's fridge was based on Rielle?


GravatarBass CLARinet.

well, that's just a sax with some wood in it.

thanx for the clip.


GravatarWell, you can't always get what you want.

Perfect dead link.
-


Gravatar"Fannie Mae's 2nd-quarter losses triple what was expected
John Aravosis (DC) · 8/09/2008

As Chris has written many a time, tell me again how this crisis is now over?"

http://www.americablog.com/2008/...ses- triple.html


Gravatarit sez a lot about our times that pols have chippies like that. in other times, "those women" have often been beautiful, skilled, brainy, and political operators in their own rights, as much desired by cheating pols for their intellects as for their shape

I had never thought of the Kennedys discussing world politics with Marilyn ...


Gravatarhow many times have i listened to this song and not realized the reference of Deacon Blues' moniker, or even your reference.

a lot of times.
charley


They even mention you by name in another song, charley. Deacon Blues knows who I am now. Damn.


GravatarAfter some five years or so of horrible endocrinological issues, today I discovered that my BMI is finally, finally, back within the 'normal' range. This, along with several other indicators, tells me that I am not going to die to-morrow and indeed, am going to be all right, generally. I iz very pleased.

Yay! That's fantastic news!


GravatarHee hee. Ghost shirts.


GravatarCongrats and HOORAY!,GWPDA.


GravatarGWPDA-

Welcome news. We need your recipes, and Arthur needs some web access.


Gravatarummn, not really. chet huntley and eric serveid and others were not too swift either. just selected for different cosmetic reasons.

Cronkite was smart, but he was an exception.
rootless-e


They were journalists, first and foremost. Not just pretty faces that could read and smile at the same time.

You obviously never saw Len O'Connor, a local Chicago newscaster in the 60's, either.

Or Studs Terkel for that matter.


GravatarI saw Steely Dan live Monday night. Sadly, they did not play my eponymous anthem
Deacon Blues


Unpossible! Demand a refund at once!


GravatarJ Edgar had tape of MM sucking someone's cock.

Many think it was JFK.


GravatarGive me chocolate!

GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian


Sounds to me like you deserve it.


GravatarChocolate? Anybody?
GWPDA

save me some for the banana pancakes tomorrow am, m'kay?


GravatarI saw Steely Dan live Monday night. Sadly, they did not play my eponymous anthem
Deacon Blues | 08.09.08 - 9:39 pm | #


They got a name for the winners of the world.... I... I wanna name when I lose.... they call Alabama the Crimson Tide....... call me Deacon Blues..........


GravatarI saw Steely Dan live Monday night. Sadly, they did not play my eponymous anthem
Deacon Blues


Did your nineteen-year-old date enjoy it?


GravatarNot sacrifice every civilian within miles along with yourselves.

Oh, it was scarier than that. The Russians, who are far more sadistic to their own army than they ever were to their citizens, were basically using their worthless BMPs full of boot recruits as bait to get the Chechens, imperfectly hidden in Soviet era apartment complexes, to reveal position to air support and artillery which just lit the whole street up. War Nerd has the background to point out that one of several incontestable commands given from an early time to the oft-raped and beaten Russian conscript is, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, DO NOT LEAVE THE APC.


GravatarUnpossible! Demand a refund at once!
Clancy at the Bar


They didn't play "Haitian Divorce", either.


GravatarUpsy=daisy.


GravatarIf I remember correctly, the Caucusus was an area that was giving Imperial Russia trouble throughout the 19th century.


Gravatarummn, not really. chet huntley and eric serveid and others were not too swift either. just selected for different cosmetic reasons.

Compared to today's airheads, they were friggin' polymaths.


GravatarBest line from a Carl Hiaasen novel:
"Ready, son? Let's go commit journalism."


Sounds vaguely incestuous.


GravatarAnd most of it appears to be stupid 'leadership', including Russia antogonizing Georgia.

No, it really isn't that simple, and Georgia actually shares in a good part of the blame in this situation. Saakashvili, after he was elected, said that he was going to crack down on secessionist areas, despite the people in South Ossetia holding a referendum in 2006 which said they wanted to be independent of Georgia.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:31 pm |


Never said it was simple. Would have been more simple if cooler and more practical leadership had been in that are (never mind now) 20 years ago.

But you're heading into a situation where the breakaway republics will accept nothing less than independence, as opposed to a great deal of autonomy. And more blood will be shed for what?


GravatarNot sacrifice every civilian within miles along with yourselves.


But they're Baby Terrorists!!!11one


GravatarIt doesn't help that the breakaway areas are being encouraged by Russia.

Hippies are morally superior to Americans because they don't believe in borders or national identity. They want to live in Obama's post-America. Press one for suck my nutsac. Press two for Auslander, raus!


GravatarIf I remember correctly, the Caucusus was an area that was giving Imperial Russia trouble throughout the 19th century.
sekmet


Till they cut off all their Caucasus.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h? v=m2lby7P0EjM


Gravatarit was lust. and it shouldn't matter if he was fucking everything that could move.

i do agree he was risking "our" one last chance to right this nation.

but it shouldn't matter.

elizabeth may feel differently, but i bet her attitude is much more mature than most of america. not to mention those jackals we call the "media".

man, this eric dolphy guy is awesome.


Gravatar"The Noms" would be a great band name.


Gravatar"Fox News has decided which story is worthy of more coverage. Today, host Gregg Jarrett interviewed PBS’s Bonnie Erbe. “We have these huge stories going on like the one you’re reporting in Georgia,” Erbe noted when asked about Edwards. Jarrett, however, completely ignored Erbe’s comment on Georgia and continued to talk about Edwards, offering praise for the National Enquirer:

JARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning. He claims he denied the affair because the reporting by the National Enquirer was “99 percent wrong.” Well, so far, they’ve been about 100 percent right. "

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08...x-news-edwards/


Gravatarthe crimson tied hasn't been doing all that great lately.


GravatarHow does Georgia fit into Phophecy


GravatarApparently, the motherfuckers are learnin' ht-fucking-ml


GravatarThe Russians, who are far more sadistic to their own army

which used to include Georgians, of course. My old backgammon buddy Georgetown George, the Georgian surgeon, skipped out for the States when it became clear the Red Army wanted to send him to Afghanistan.


Gravatarit was lust. and it shouldn't matter if he was fucking everything that could move.

But people have a need to mock women! Come on!


GravatarExcellent, NBC is bringing "Life" back this fall. That show has the best music of any show on TV. Show's good, too.


GravatarThe whole are is a huge mishmash of linguistic and ethnic groups, there are over 15 languages spoken in the Caucasus region, probably lots of old wounds to nurture, just like in the Balkans.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:39 pm |


Being better versed on the Balkans, I can tell you most of those 'old' wounds are actually rather recent. Nationalism can be a nasty thing.


GravatarCommented at that Dolphy link:

JFEROLLA (5 months ago)...

It's been told Billy wrote this piece before his first encounter with Duke, coming from Philadelfia or Chicago, I don't remeber anymore. In a phone Duke said how what to do after arriving in NYC to meet him: "take the A train..." Billy wrote the tune during that trip and played it to Duke just when they met there. So this is the legend...



Every now and then I learn another legend.
-


GravatarDid your nineteen-year-old date enjoy it?
melior

Heh! Mrs Blues liked it.

Not many 19 year olds in the house, except for the ones with Miller Beer t-shirts and microminiskirt uniforms.

And Walter burned up a "Hey Nineteen" solo....


GravatarThe Russians, who are far more sadistic to their own army than they ever were to their citizens,

k&y, nyarlathotep


A fine tradition in the Russian military. After all, Stalin had machine-gunners placed so as to discourage retreat.

I remember reading about conditions for boots in the Russian Army in Chechnya. Indescribable.

And the Chechnyans were, as you say, if anything, worse.


GravatarI'd kinda like to give Bonnie Erbe a thorough seeing to.


GravatarJARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning.

"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not." - Ronnie Raygun


GravatarA small, and entirely unimportant note. After some five years or so of horrible endocrinological issues, today I discovered that my BMI is finally, finally, back within the 'normal' range. This, along with several other indicators, tells me that I am not going to die to-morrow and indeed, am going to be all right, generally. I iz very pleased. Endocrinologists are very gud peoples.

Give me chocolate!

GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 08.09.08 - 9:38 pm


Yeah!

besides, I would hate for you to die on my birthday.


GravatarBut you're heading into a situation where the breakaway republics will accept nothing less than independence, as opposed to a great deal of autonomy.

Yeah. That's why I said I thought this was going to be an area of conflict for quite some time.

I just think Georgia was stupid to expect that NATO was going to run to their rescue when their escalation didn't go so well.


GravatarThey didn't play "Haitian Divorce", either.
Deacon Blues


That's forgiveable. Even commendable, although it's not my least favorite song in the catalogue.


GravatarIt's Beer:30!
.


Gravatarchicago dyke --

I try it right now, but I am currently stuck on dial-up (long story) so it might not work out ...



GravatarBuckeye:

Nationalism can be a nasty thing.

So can being a citizen of the world.


GravatarBut people have a need to mock women! Come on!
masculine_monica_nyc


What Monica said.


Gravatarit was lust. and it shouldn't matter if he was fucking everything that could move.

ii do agree he was risking "our" one last chance to right this nation.

but it shouldn't matter.

elizabeth may feel differently, but i bet her attitude is much more mature than most of america. not to mention those jackals we call the "media".

charley | 08.09.08 - 9:44 pm |


I am with you on that, Charley.

Just can't figure out why it matters to "the polity" what politicians do sexually. Frnakly, it's probably the surplus testosterone that makes 'em ambitious enough to put up with the bullshit of running for office in the first place, so they're tortured by the stuff. Let 'em be. Who cares.


Gravatar"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not." - Ronnie Raygun

he was such a fucking idiot.


GravatarThey were journalists, first and foremost. Not just pretty faces that could read and smile at the same time.

You obviously never saw Len O'Connor, a local Chicago newscaster in the 60's, either.

Or Studs Terkel for that matter.
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 9:41 pm | #


studs terkel is a typical newscaster from the 1960s?

gimme a break. the purpose of TV is to make money. the 1960s journalism relied on an aesthetic of authoritative white guys who fit the mold in terms of looking and sounding just as todays chippets do for a different fashion.


Gravatar"I feel a special connection between us"
Gomez | 08.09.08 - 9:25 pm | #


, said Bush to Putin....


GravatarI remember seeing a story on French tv news in 2000 about a Russian soldier who was sold into slavery by his commander. The only reason he was freed was that his mother raised hell about it and got some media attention.


GravatarLincoln was a one term congressman who could not win the senate seat in his state.


Gravatarrootless: despite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man. also, JFK had many chippies of which she was only the most famous. and men can want to fuck women for 000s of different reasons, right?

k&y- you're not getting it. of course they are gay. you've worked in/been close to the business/Game, isn't that completely obvious to you at this point? it's not "turned gay," it's "threatened to out and shame before friends and family to whom a totally different persona has been constructed due to cowardice and laziness and an unwillingness to admit to themselves that gay sex can be open, healthy, natural and not perverted." politics and gay go together like peanut butter and chocolate. i'd guess 50-75% of the Village, and i mean the whole area and not just that franchise, is queer. i have a complicated theory about how smashing the Closet will end republican/winger power forever, but we'll speak of that later.


GravatarFrom human stupidity to animal stupidity:

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/ 2...096501088MnfFIJ

I have either the world's most brave or most stupid squirrel.


GravatarBeing better versed on the Balkans, I can tell you most of those 'old' wounds are actually rather recent. Nationalism can be a nasty thing.


Mais oů sont les Balkan Sobranies d'antan?
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Gravatarwhat kind of livestock is a Bonnie Erbe?


GravatarAin't upsidaisium the coolest.


GravatarJARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning.

"Nope... no WMD there, either!" (Uproarious laughter from the assembled "journalists")


Gravatardespite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man.

bingo.


GravatarWe used to think there were a lot of bad things in the American military, especially after that 20/20 story about the paratroop school that beat the shit out of their newbs and applied skin irritants to their genitals and so on, but the Russians rape their recruits. They force sexual intercourse onto their new people. That is pretty much unimaginable in the worst Virginian or Carolinian hole. Mark Ames' thesis that office and school rage killings come from faceless institutional abusers was helped along by the startling fact, from Ames' newspaper, that rage killings are so regular in the Russian army that they are not news and nobody questions why they happen. If word comes everyone feels bad for the poor boot who snapped.


GravatarBuckeye:

Nationalism can be a nasty thing.

So can being a citizen of the world.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:48 pm


Once again, you have not a fucking clue what you're yammering about.


GravatarAnd Walter burned up a "Hey Nineteen" solo....
Deacon Blues


Walter is such a cool guitarist. Makes every damn note count and has that poker face with the twinkle in his eye. Love it.


GravatarJARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning

Ketchup is a vegetable.


GravatarDEACON BLUES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h? v=m2lby7P0EjM

hope this helps....


GravatarAin't upsidaisium the coolest.
Le Jackel


I think it's a close call with the old fashioned Flubber.


GravatarI see that I missed the Carl Hiassen discussion above. Most entertaining novelist on the planet, in my book.


Gravatardespite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man.


She was also married to a guy who probably did nothing else but fuck her senseless. She dumped him for the smart guy.


GravatarBuckeye, the squirrels here do that all the time. The cats are not much of a threat.

Is it your birthday today? Happy Birthday!

Today is my dad's birthday.


GravatarYeah. That's why I said I thought this was going to be an area of conflict for quite some time.

And many people predicted this. The end of the bipolar power relationship between the US and the USSR, and the beginnning of the multipolar global situation was an accident waiting to happen. It was touch and go and we doged a bullet in the Balkans and then George W. Bush got behind the wheel of the bus and tried to push the unipolar American hegemony. And here we are.

But somebody did predict it.


GravatarLincoln's existence was providential. He was an American Christ. He rounded up newspaper editors and legislators and hanged pesky injuns. He was large; he contained multitudes.


Gravatardespite her public persona, marilyn was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man.


TWO!


Gravatarbob riley's skanky wife doing a PSA in the commercial break. yeeeagh.


GravatarJARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning

"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so." - Runnynose Bunnypants


GravatarLincoln was a one term congressman who could not win the senate seat in his state.


And see where that got us.
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Gravatari'd guess 50-75% of the Village, and i mean the whole area and not just that franchise, is queer.

75% naturally?! The ones we met were perfectly submissive, "My Honor is My Loyalty" numbnuts who would go on to be ravenous fiddle-head fernasexuals if you told them they were and they thought it was part of political success.


GravatarAre we having a lie-off with troolies?

I was just out to get beer...
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Gravatarstuds terkel is a typical newscaster from the 1960s?

gimme a break. the purpose of TV is to make money. the 1960s journalism relied on an aesthetic of authoritative white guys who fit the mold in terms of looking and sounding just as todays chippets do for a different fashion.
rootless-e



You don't get it.

It was journalism first, looks second. Quite the reverse of the situation today.

For a long time, the news divisions of the networks were even separate from the money-making divisions. They weren't expected to make money.

That's all.

There's a video produced by CBS as late as '68, called "The Selling of the Pentagon". And of course Murrow's "Harvest of Shame", which was earlier.

Can you imagine shit like that coming out of the networks now? They don't have the expertise, even if they wanted to, which they don't.


GravatarAs stated above, the principle of indiscernibility of identicals - that if two objects are in fact one and the same, they have all the same properties - is mostly uncontroversial. However, one famous application of the indiscernibility of identicals was by René Descartes in his Meditations on First Philosophy. Descartes concluded that he could not doubt the existence of himself (the famous cogito ergo sum argument), but that he could doubt the existence of his body. From this he inferred that the person Descartes must not be identical to his body, since one possessed a characteristic that the other did not: namely, it could be known to exist.


GravatarSteely Dan My Old School

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h? v=Pj9Rs56u8YY


GravatarThank you pigboy


Gravatarhanged pesky injuns.

Tobes, tell us again you're not a racist?


GravatarI was just out to get beer...
.
Jeffraham Prestonian


What flavor?


Gravatarrootless: despite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit,

she was at least as smart as jfk. i'm just objecting to the idea that previous generations of male politicians were so suave. they did seem to be smart enough to have affairs with women who did not want to talk to the press, though. so give 'em some points.

jfk wouldn't have gotten near monica or ms. astral projection because they were obviously both going to not keep things discrete.


GravatarThank you pigboy
Deacon Blues | 08.09.08 - 9:54 pm | #



GravatarThis, along with several other indicators, tells me that I am not going to die to-morrow and indeed, am going to be all right, generally. I iz very pleased. Endocrinologists are very gud peoples.

Give me chocolate!

GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian


Gives GWPDA the entire bag of Dove chocolates as Ind goes into withdrawal.


GravatarBuckeye, the squirrels here do that all the time. The cats are not much of a threat.

Is it your birthday today? Happy Birthday!

Today is my dad's birthday.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:52 pm | #


Tomorrow.

Happy birthday to your dad!

I think Spike was amused, but if the squirrel pisses him off, I suspect it'll be all over.


GravatarI thought journalism worked on the same principle as LA street gangs. They don't let you in the club until you've done something or someone that can get you tossed.


GravatarTlazolteotl: Tobes, tell us again you're not a racist?


He's lonely.

Please, won't someone talk to him?
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GravatarFor a long time, the news divisions of the networks were even separate from the money-making divisions. They weren't expected to make money.

until Ted Turner came along and proved it could be done.

bastard.


GravatarWho could have predicted that I'd be out of Bombay Sapphire on a Saturday night?

back l8r...


GravatarBut somebody did predict it.

Really? Somebody predicted that Russia would lose the Cold War to beat the everloving peanut-rich horse shit out of us and leave us begging for a rest and a lemonade in the post-Cold War era? We would love to see that analysis.


GravatarRene Descartes was a drunken fart.


GravatarOh, and I'm still waiting for the list of Quayle's qualifications.....


Gravatarmelior: What flavor?

$12/case flavor.
.


Gravatar"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so." - Runnynose Bunnypants

Just when was it that they asked for the phone companies to roll over? February of 2001 is what I heard, but I don't know if that was tin foil time or not...


Gravatar despite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man.

She was, however, reputed to have asked Arthur Miller's mother what part of the fish the gefilte came from.

But even geniuses don't know everything.


Gravatarnoice. i like the new pornographers. more neko case pls.


GravatarYou don't get it.

What a shock.

Sevaried, IIRC, was one of "Murrow's Boys" - a whole group of people hired by Murrow as writers for radio. They then moved into delivering what they wrote on the air, and later, did the same on television.

"Looks", "polish", "attractiveness" wasn't even vaguely considered.


Gravatarjfk wouldn't have gotten near monica or ms. astral projection because they were obviously both going to not keep things discrete.
rootless-e | 08.09.08 - 9:55 pm | #

otoh, he didn't need to be as discreet--the press mostly didn't report affairs etc. back then.


GravatarBut somebody did predict it.

Jeanne Dixon? Was it Jeanne Dixon? I knew it!


GravatarHe's lonely.

Please, won't someone talk to him?


How bout some more quotes from his favoritest genitalman and scholar?

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a *part* of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a *part* of Europe." - DQ Danny


Gravatarrootless-e,

How old are you?

I have been watching TV since 1955.


GravatarI should have said: my cats aren't much of a threat.

Sos the squirrels have been acting with greater and greater impunity, not helped by the fact that we feed them.

Sorry, I'm a sucker for cute furry things.


GravatarOh, and I'm still waiting for the list of Quayle's qualifications.....

35. citizen.

Don't wait on Petzold, he's stoned out of his mind.


Gravatarporno s h e e t s
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GravatarOh, and I'm still waiting for the list of Quayle's qualifications.....
Tlazolteotl


I knew Dan Quayle....


GravatarYeah. That's why I said I thought this was going to be an area of conflict for quite some time.

And many people predicted this. The end of the bipolar power relationship between the US and the USSR, and the beginnning of the multipolar global situation was an accident waiting to happen. It was touch and go and we doged a bullet in the Balkans and then George W. Bush got behind the wheel of the bus and tried to push the unipolar American hegemony. And here we are.

But somebody did predict it.
Clancy at the Bar | 08.09.08 - 9:52 pm


Back in the late 1980's I did a lot of reading on the USSR. And even then the Armenia/Azerbaijan conflict was underway. Without decent leadership, both in Moscow and in the provinces, you were going to have problems.


Gravatar


Adam Hominem

We still think you are naive: there was a very tightly controlled pseudo-Renaissance n that era to react to and control and contain the terrifying (to the establishment) simmering public uproar. If only there was a nerdhero named Chomksky who already explained years ago why Lippmann wasn't your friend...


GravatarJeanne Dixon? Was it Jeanne Dixon? I knew it!
Adam Hominem


Not Jeanne Dixon or Ronnie might have thought twice about ending the "Evil Empire". People in the IR community. My first reaction was: One down, one to go.


GravatarSteely Dan My Old School

That's the American Bandstand appearance I mentioned yesterday.

Went right out and bought "Countdown to Ecstacy" at the local Value Giant as soon as the show went off!


GravatarThere's a video produced by CBS as late as '68, called "The Selling of the Pentagon".

In fairness, much of the research material for "The Selling of the Pentagon" came from William J. Fulbright's book, which was, in turn, based on information from his committee hearings.

However, CBS did have the balls at the time to broadcast it (actually, first in Feb., 1971), and it caused quite an uproar then.

And, yes, there's not much of that going on today. Reality shows are so much cheaper to produce. Research is expensive....


GravatarCalvin Trillin pointed out that J. Danforth Quayle was a perfect name for a Disney animated villain, perhaps an unscrupulous avian banker...


Gravatar"Looks", "polish", "attractiveness" wasn't even vaguely considered.
dave™©


I've never forgotten Len O'Connor, from my days as a kid in Chicago.

Fat old Irishman with an ill-fitting shirt and hair coming out of his ears, telling us the news.

You could tell he was an actual honest to God reporter.


Gravatargimme a break. the purpose of TV is to make money.

Prior to Reagan's elimination of the Fairness Doctrine news was done by TV networks to fulfill their "public service" requirements. It wasn't about making money until after the GOP decided to stop enforcing the contract for using public airwaves.


GravatarUpsy=daisy.
Le Jackel

god, remember when we were all so young and good looking?

sympathy


GravatarJust when was it that they asked for the phone companies to roll over? February of 2001 is what I heard, but I don't know if that was tin foil time or not...
atablarasa


I've followed an awful lot of emptywheel and Grteenwald, and I don't believe it's known yet exactly. "State secrets" yaknow. Before 9/11 though.

I wouldn't be all that surprised if they started playing footsie as part of Pointdexter's Total Info Awareness.


GravatarJust when was it that they asked for the phone companies to roll over? February of 2001 is what I heard, but I don't know if that was tin foil time or not...

Not tinfoil. That's the time period that Qwest opted out because its lawyers thought the legal foundation was crooked.


GravatarOne down, one to go.

I was a silly little left-anarchist and antistatist back then. I'm still a left anarchist but a left pragmatist as well, like Chomsky.


GravatarSteely Dan My Old School

That's the American Bandstand appearance I mentioned yesterday.

Went right out and bought "Countdown to Ecstacy" at the local Value Giant as soon as the show went off!
dave™© | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 10:00 pm | #

I'd never seen it till now. I could see how you would.


GravatarKetchup is a vegetable

Trees pollute.


GravatarMan, I gotta give Fagan and "Skunk" Baxter credit - they didn't dog it one second while miming to that song in that clip.

Becker didn't look too enthused though, but maybe that's just the bass player in him...


GravatarI'd never seen it till now.

"Old School" was the second song they did. They opened earlier with "Show Biz Kids" (their big hit at the time).


GravatarOddly enough, Dick Clark didn't ask the boys where they got the band name from...


GravatarBack in the late 1980's I did a lot of reading on the USSR. And even then the Armenia/Azerbaijan conflict was underway. Without decent leadership, both in Moscow and in the provinces, you were going to have problems.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coin


Conflict is ubiquitous. Some make the argument that it is even "healthy". I'd prefer to avoid violent conflict. It was less dangerous in Marx's time. Slow and steady, like the tortoise.


GravatarOddly enough, Dick Clark didn't ask the boys where they got the band name from...
dave™© | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 10:05 pm | #


Strange that....


GravatarI was off to the left back then, and increasingly uneasy. Deeply regretted the black folk brandishing submachine guns and kicking the whites out of SNCC, and the SDS moving from the Port Huron statement and participatory democracy to Weathermen and PL Trotskyites. Thought the college had no business reporting grades to the draft board or contracting with the Institute for Defense Analysis, but wasn't sure about whether shutting down the college as an educational institution, however imperfect, was either intelligent or ethical.

Still not sure about a lot of that stuff.


GravatarMan, I gotta give Fagan and "Skunk" Baxter credit - they didn't dog it one second while miming to that song in that clip.

Simels will give Skunk no credit. He's too tight with Kurt Weldon and Dana Rohrbacher.


Gravatargood night and good luck


GravatarMaybe it's a clone of Edwards' dead son with the offending appendage removed.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #


GravatarBaxter is a defense consultant for the defense industry and Pentagon.


GravatarBaxter is a defense consultant for the defense industry and Pentagon.

Clancy is a foot-hold and enabling troll for the other trolls ... watch


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