The young man in the foreground is really enjoying the show.
I remember what that was like...any band...as long as they were energetic with a good beat...just blissed out to be away from the humdrum for a little while, reveling in the noisy zeitgeist.
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:04 pm | #
BTW, the Mac sucks.
Gomez
< Sign of the cross >
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:05 pm | #
David Gregory on Edwards: "Is this another skeleton in the Democratic closet that Barack Obama must struggle to overcome?"
How does Edwards having an affair mean Obama has to struggle?
Shit, if that were the case, McCain couldn't get elected dog catcher with all the bullshit the GOP has in their fucking closet over the last 8 years.
Supreme Commander Thor |
08.09.08 - 8:05 pm | #
Eww God. You know really need a secret handshake or two in these parts.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 8:07 pm | #
does anybody really think favre will lead the jets to a superbowl??
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:07 pm | #
I don't hate the Mac. I used to have several. Then one went bad, and I found how hard it was to get it fixed; unlike a Wintel box which has generic parts.
And of course I expressed my displeasure on the Mac boards and was rejected as a troll.
I took this away from the experience: it's a mistake to get any part of your identity from the Corporation whose stuff you happen to purchase.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:07 pm | #
David Gregory jumped the shark with his little dance with KKKarl Rove.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
He was never good. He just briefly became a darling of the left because he asked tough questions for about a week after he felt personally insulted by the Bush government. Just another Heather.
puppethead |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:07 pm | #
does anybody really think favre will lead the jets to a superbowl??
pretzelattack
Only ten million people who talk funny.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 8:08 pm | #
Did he bring the binoculars to check out their asses?
Gomez |
He patted one gal on her ass.
She should've kicked sand in his face.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:10 pm | #
I think I like the old pornographers better. Just sayin.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:10 pm | #
haloscan don't work for shit on one of these,btw.
Theodoric of iPhone |
08.09.08 - 8:11 pm | #
He patted one gal on her ass.
'S true, he wedges his sweaty-shirt self between them. I'm sure Pickles appreciated that little photo op.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:12 pm | #
Tried watching the opening yesterday and was increasingly angered by the commercial interruptions. They had fifteen thousand people performing. They spent who knows how much time and money on the technique and the aymbolism. Given China's position in the world, I'd have thought the affair well worth not breaking up with corporate blandishments.
Then again, perhaps that was entirely compatible with the message...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:12 pm | #
does anybody really think favre will lead the jets to a superbowl??
pretzelattack
i heard a joke on npr the other day.
"what do you call 40 guys sitting around watching the super bowl."
the answer of course is the minnesota vikings.
but when i riddled our resident football aficionado at work he said the ny jets.
charley |
08.09.08 - 8:12 pm | #
Somebody should hire one of those planes that do skywriting and have it write out MCCAIN IS AN ADULTURER over the repuke convention in Minneapolis.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 8:12 pm | #
i waiting for the exxon people's republic of china.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:12 pm | #
One nice thing about a new thread: It gives us another chance to resolve not to feed the tr00ls.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:13 pm | #
Wombat,
You ever see a movie called North Dallas Forty? About two guys who just want to play football, but discover that it's not about football, it's about business.
The Olympics are like that. Unfortunately.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:13 pm | #
Can you get rid of the Dino Rossi ads? Probably not because this is capitalism at its best, but I don't think his target audience is located here. Forget it, just take his money and run.....
moe99 |
08.09.08 - 8:13 pm | #
I want to know which corporate "reporters" smoke dope. Come on now. Admit it.
ErinPDX, Obama/Kulongoski |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:14 pm | #
and then another chance to break that resolution.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:14 pm | #
MCCAIN IS AN ADULTURER over the repuke convention in Minneapolis.
sekmet
I've been looking for sign ideas. Thanks!
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:14 pm | #
i still dislike dogburne, but this cheese and port is yummy!
NTodd, Mobile Poseur |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:14 pm | #
I saw an Obama sign in a predominately white working class neighborhood today.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 8:14 pm | #
'S true, he wedges his sweaty-shirt self between them. I'm sure Pickles appreciated that little photo op.
Deacon Blues
Fucker doesn't understand the concept of an individual's personal space.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:15 pm | #
The Olympics are like that. Unfortunately.
Adam Hominem
Not really. the American broadcast of the Olympics are. NBC ruins them every time.
puppethead |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:15 pm | #
Scary, Andrea Mitchell totally buzzed.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 8:15 pm | #
Not really. the American broadcast of the Olympics are. NBC ruins them every time.
puppethead
I accept the correction.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Adam: I did see 'North Dallas Forty', and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Just read 'Playing for Pizza', John Grisham story about a failed NFL quarterback playing in Italy. Nothing deep, but a good story well told...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Scary, Andrea Mitchell totally buzzed.
Le Jackel
See I'd let her go on top.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 8:16 pm | #
How does David breathe with McCain's dick so far down his throat?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 8:03 pm | #
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Easy...when he needs a breath of air he pulls it out drops on all fours and has a sweating and drooling McCain shove it in his a$$.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
08.09.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Not really. the American broadcast of the Olympics are. NBC ruins them every time.
puppethead
Like it ruins everything else.
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Scary, Andrea Mitchell totally buzzed.
Le Jackel
I'D have to be to put up with Alan Greenspan.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Scary, Andrea Mitchell totally buzzed.
Le Jackel
If you knew you had to go home to Alan Greenspan, wouldn't you?
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:16 pm | #
A classic Coke to Terry C.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:17 pm | #
when he needs a breath of air he pulls it out drops on all fours and has a sweating and drooling McCain shove it in his a$$.
Uncle Fester Lurks
There ya go!
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Just read 'Playing for Pizza', John Grisham story about a failed NFL quarterback playing in Italy. Nothing deep, but a good story well told...
ProfWombat
I'll look for it. Thanks.
His "An Innocent Man" made me want to scream.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Fucker doesn't understand the concept of an individual's personal space.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
The genius of Western Civilization is creating the idea of personal space and then violating it.
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Fokowi was going to tell me where the genius of Western Civilization began. Is he still around?
Toby Petzold |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:18 pm | #
when he needs a breath of air he pulls it out drops on all fours and has a sweating and drooling McCain shove it in his a$$.
Uncle Fester Lurks
My friends, I am in need of brain bleach here.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:18 pm | #
His "An Innocent Man" made me want to scream.
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 8:17 pm | #
was that the guy in oklahoma?
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:18 pm | #
Is he still around?
Toby Petzold
Unfortunately, YOU still are.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:18 pm | #
Adam: I'm in the minority here because of it, but I like Grisham more than not...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:18 pm | #
(I knew that would happen.)
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:18 pm | #
The genius of Western Civilization is creating the idea of personal space and then violating it.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Fokowi was going to tell me where the genius of Western Civilization began. Is he still around?
Toby Petzold
You gotta love the juxtaposition.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:19 pm | #
Maybe Chimpy will try to give the German women's clean and jerk champ a neck massage.
Darwin Award potential!
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:19 pm | #
i've heard the nonfiction book is better than his fiction.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:19 pm | #
Terry, why do you reject the idea that Judeo-Christianity is the source of the genius of Western Civilization?
Toby Petzold |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:19 pm | #
pretzel: 'An Innocent Man' is better than anything else of his I've read...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:20 pm | #
Dog burning isn't an Olympic event yet, is it Toby?
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:20 pm | #
You gotta love the juxtaposition.
Adam Hominem
Wit next to nitwit?
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:21 pm | #
Adam: I'm in the minority here because of it, but I like Grisham more than not...
ProfWombat
Have you read "In the Woods" by Tara French (I think)? Killer, absolutely killer.
I can't read Ludlum and such; I like some simalcrum of real people in my novels. French's book is a police procedural set in Ireland. Absolutely fabulous. Best thing I've read in years, and I read about 300 books a year.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:21 pm | #
Toby is going to vote for John McCain not only because Toby is a racist but because McCain reminds Toby of his senile cranky and crusty old grandpa who during family dog burning parties gets shoved in a corner because he drools all over himself, lashes out at invisible people, mutters incoherently and usually has a full load in his adult diaper.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
08.09.08 - 8:22 pm | #
ludlum is fucking unreadable.
and I'm a fan of the genre.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:22 pm | #
since when have The Monkees had a girl?
Lubyanka |
08.09.08 - 8:22 pm | #
gymnasts?
pretzelattack
I'd have to concur.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:22 pm | #
Although it might be a bit like fucking a cocker spaniel.
Not that I'm speaking from personal experience, you understand.
Say no more.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:23 pm | #
McTaint insists he likes frottage with firemen and policemen just as much as boinking his skank ho.
QUESTION: Senator, can you describe your relationship with Vicki Iseman?
MCCAIN: Friends. Seen her on occasions, particularly at receptions and fund-raisers and appearances before the committee. I have many friends in Washington who represent various interests and those who don't, and I consider her a friend.
QUESTION: But do you feel like, in terms of your relationship with lobbyists in general, you were closer to her than with others?
MCCAIN: No, no.
I have many friends who represent various interests, ranging from the firemen to the police to senior citizens to various interests, particularly before my committee.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:23 pm | #
Your favorite OS sucks.
Mainframer |
08.09.08 - 8:23 pm | #
Aha!theres the my gravatar
Uncle Fester Lurks |
08.09.08 - 8:24 pm | #
I've heard that Greenspan was quite a ladies' man in his day. I prefer to think that he's doing Andrea as penance.
Or, perhaps, like Nancy Reagan, she has skills that don't exhibit themselves on TV.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:24 pm | #
Adam: Amazon calls her 'Tana French'. I'll read it. Time folding on itself in Ireland, much less elsewhere, makes sense to me as serious business...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:24 pm | #
ludlum is fucking unreadable.
.....
theodoric of athens
I feel the same about James Michener
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:24 pm | #
my friend and fellow blogger at Jesus' General (and formerly our place) MJS had a birthday. i wrote him a story as a gift, if you're in the mood for some fiction about the ancient world (it has lesbians).
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:25 pm | #
the genius of western civilization comes from toby's anus.
NTodd, Mobile Poseur |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:25 pm | #
you'll be able to marry your cocker spaniel in CA before long, so take heart, weirdo
Lubyanka |
08.09.08 - 8:25 pm | #
Adam: Amazon calls her 'Tana French'. I'll read it. Time folding on itself in Ireland, much less elsewhere, makes sense to me as serious business...
ProfWombat
If you don't love it, I will cheerfully refund your purchase price.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:25 pm | #
i hate ludlum, just from reading the first 3 pages or so of one of his novels. apparently the evil chinese communists were behind all the dope college students were taking during the sixties, and the head pusher, a liberal college professor, scores his stash from his chinese contact. at this point, i resolved never to read anything by ludlum again.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:25 pm | #
since when have The Monkees had a girl?
Lubyanka | 08.09.08 - 8:22 pm | #
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Luby...you big, ugly, hairy ape! Go shave your fat, hairy body and stop showing your little banana to the young girls in your neighborhood, you sick pervert!
Uncle Fester Lurks |
08.09.08 - 8:26 pm | #
My wife and I were watching badminton. She said she wasn't going to support the Indonesian player (she said in Indonesia the Chinese like here only supported the Chinese players), but towards the end when the Indonesian woman was about ready to put the German away, she was suddenly all for her to win. Funny how that works.
Supreme Commander Thor |
08.09.08 - 8:26 pm | #
Or, perhaps, like Nancy Reagan, she has skills that don't exhibit themselves on TV.
theodoric of athens
False teeth? I always wanted to date a woman with false teeth.
Damn these dentists; making people keep them!
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:26 pm | #
Read a couple of Ludlum's books and liked 'em enough. The last time I tried, maybe 20 years ago, I was almost embarrassed at how formulaic and dead it was. haven't tried since.
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:26 pm | #
Lubyanka | 08.09.08 - 8:25 pm |
Clearly, you spend a lot of time thinking about bestiality.
Dr Freud |
08.09.08 - 8:27 pm | #
you'll be able to marry your cocker spaniel in CA before long, so take heart, weirdo
I guess we should be glad that someone is tracking these things, but sheesh.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:27 pm | #
If you've read one Ludlum, you've read 'em all.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:27 pm | #
Adam Homo:
you'll be able to marry your cocker spaniel in CA before long, so take heart, weirdo
Lubyanka
I just want to say: Fuck John Edwards!
Cadbury |
08.09.08 - 8:27 pm | #
My Dad used to read Ludlum. He was a smart guy, otherwise.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:28 pm | #
what is it with republicans and dogs? having sex with them, marrying them, burning them...
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:28 pm | #
And fuck his little dog Toto!
Cadbury |
08.09.08 - 8:28 pm | #
The one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:28 pm | #
I just want to say: Fuck John Edwards!
Cadbury
Dude, didn't you hear? He's not gay after all! I think Scooter's marriage might be in trouble though.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:29 pm | #
Toby is a racist but because McCain reminds Toby of his senile cranky and crusty old grandpa who during family dog burning parties
no, no, you've got that all wrong. toby burns dogs because unlike his grandfather*, he's no longer allowed to lynch and burn black people.
*altho not sanctified by a marriage, and likely via incestuous union.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:29 pm | #
You gotta love the juxtaposition.
Adam Hominem
I live for that.
I also have no problem with Toby--such a long history here, a kind of "house troll" if you will. Who doesn't need a "Two Minutes Hate" every now and then?
Plus...I know what it's like to be maddeningly lonely.
He and I just have different coping mechanisms. In the vast sweep of time and motion, none of it matters one bit.
Uncle Smokes |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:29 pm | #
me too:
Fuck John Edwards, the guy who cheats on his dying wife...
I have read several recent puff pieces about Cindy McCain where they mention that while she met John at a garden party and they got married a year later, they leave out the inconvient fact that he was married when he met her.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 8:30 pm | #
The one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...
ProfWombat
Definitely teh suck. And it's not like I'm particularly highbrow or anything.
I read Michael Connelly, for Gawdsake.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:30 pm | #
Meh. Seems the street price of T is down again.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:31 pm | #
you'll be able to marry your cocker spaniel in CA before long, so take heart, weirdo
Lubyank
Are you insane, you cretinous mass of slime and blubbering font foolishness?
PETA and ALF would never allow it.
Cadbury |
08.09.08 - 8:31 pm | #
apparently the evil chinese communists were behind all the dope college students were taking during the sixties, and the head pusher, a liberal college professor, scores his stash from his chinese contact. at this point, i resolved never to read anything by ludlum again.
my friend and fellow blogger at Jesus' General (and formerly our place) MJS had a birthday. i wrote him a story as a gift, if you're in the mood for some fiction about the ancient world (it has lesbians).
Everybody must go read this right now.
Or, well, sometime if now is not convenient. But you must read it. I want MJS to have birthdays about every week and a half if it gets CD to write more of this story.
Well, 'Catch 22' is amazing. Liked it even more when i reread it about 10 yrs ago than I did the first time...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:31 pm | #
Crichton went completely unreadable for me after Coma, Great Train Robbery, and Andromeda Strain.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:31 pm | #
He and I just have different coping mechanisms. In the vast sweep of time and motion, none of it matters one bit.
Uncle Smokes
As one often called a troll, I have to agree.
Also I give Toby kudos for posting under his real name.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:31 pm | #
Gymnastics is such an odd sport. The contortions and feats of strength and balance = fantastic freak show.
masculine_monica_nyc |
08.09.08 - 8:32 pm | #
well, the last book i read was catch 22. that's a good book.
charley
I'll see your "good" and raise you a "great".
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:32 pm | #
like Nancy Reagan, she has skills that don't exhibit themselves on TV.
i'm pretty sure you can find that on some pay channels, if not the intertubes. she was just before her time and missed her true calling/ers.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:32 pm | #
Bollocks! There's a spaniel in the works.
John Lennon |
08.09.08 - 8:32 pm | #
the head pusher, a liberal college professor, scores his stash from his chinese contact.
Sounds like a Doonesbury strip.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:32 pm | #
Crichton went completely unreadable for me after Coma, Great Train Robbery, and Andromeda Strain.
melior
Terminal Man?
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:33 pm | #
Crichton went completely unreadable for me after Coma, Great Train Robbery, and Andromeda Strain.
melior
He's like Ken Follet. They both wrote one great book, and now foolishly continue to publish rubbish.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:33 pm | #
Crichton went completely unreadable for me after Coma, Great Train Robbery, and Andromeda Strain.
That was about it for me as well with him, though I did enjoy Airframe just a little.
Supreme Commander Thor |
08.09.08 - 8:33 pm | #
While cocker spaniels are particularly attractive, I am not inclined to fuck one.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 8:33 pm | #
Bollocks! There's a spaniel in the works.
John Lennon
Worst of all young man you've got industrial disease.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:33 pm | #
Crichton has always left me stone cold. I don't like people who aren't particularly well informed about a subject beating me over the head with their erudition as a dramatic device...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:34 pm | #
Lo these dacades later, "Coma" is still the only Robin Cook I've ever read...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:34 pm | #
hmm i went down to the local bookstore at the mall, that usually puts the liberal books in out of the way places, and there was a whole little stand devoted to the Wrecking Crew, right up front. the times they are a changin?
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:34 pm | #
OK, I forgot that one, I liked it too.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:34 pm | #
Joe Cocker! Put that spaniel dog down!
John Lennon |
08.09.08 - 8:34 pm | #
I am also not inclined to fuck Tom Clancy.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 8:34 pm | #
I've enjoyed everything so far in the Sue Grafton series.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
WTF?! Even Chicago Dyke is slagging me?
Toby Petzold |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
Sheesh, even I'm a better writer than Tom freakin' Clancy.
Stephen King |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
Worst of all young man you've got industrial disease.
melior
I saw Mark Knopfler last week! He came through town and rich cousin invited me!
I've dreamed of seeing him for probably 20 years or more.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
The one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...
I was fascinated by Hunt for Red October, because I was working for defense contractors at the time, and he was the first novelist I'd seen who got the technical details right.
After a couple of years, though, he regressed to soft porn. There's an amusing side story about karma here, but I won't tell it.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
/waves to xan/ the people are talking me into the larger project, so you may get your wish.
/waves to wombat/ how's trix, prof? i'd love for you to read the story, btw. your opinion would mean a lot to me.
...8 hrs in the garden today. i'm too wiped to go out tonight, sigh. it sucks to get old, sometimes.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
I was thinking of Congo, not Coma.
Getting old is lame.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
Sounds like a Doonesbury strip.
melior | 08.09.08 - 8:32 pm | #
well, it was just following a typical conservative script of the time--the commies were behind the drugs, the civil rights movement, the protest movement.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
Well, 'Catch 22' is amazing. Liked it even more when i reread it about 10 yrs ago than I did the first time...
ProfWombat
well, i've read it 3 times. the first when i was 19, i think i got the point, but you can't really relate at 19.
i didn't really grok it till i worked for the federal government.
charley |
08.09.08 - 8:35 pm | #
the times they are a changin?
pretzelattack
I rarely shop at Borders anymore, given their prominent placement of every right-wing piece of trash...
I find Barnes and Noble more sensible.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:36 pm | #
heh, crichton fell for the uri geller shtick. also a climate change denier.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:36 pm | #
Oops! I've harpooned the budgie!
John Lennon |
08.09.08 - 8:37 pm | #
I saw Mark Knopfler last week! He came through town and rich cousin invited me!
:jealous:
I remember reading that Dire Straits got their start by winning a battle of the bands in London.
If I had practiced with my mates in the garage for weeks, and then had to follow up Sultans of Swing, I think i would just cry and go home.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:37 pm | #
I read Andromeda Strain when I was abt 11. It freaked me out.
That and a bunch of Doonesbury collections were the only books I could find when we moved into this dumpy little place just outside Charlotte Amalie.
Toby Petzold |
Homepage |
08.09.08 - 8:37 pm | #
But there are those in the cocker spaniel fucking party who hang around here.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 8:37 pm | #
Looking up info on McCain, I noticed that he was born in 1936 so it seems that he was a bit old to be flying jets in the 1960s.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 8:37 pm | #
PETA preparing legal action against the "marry any breathing thing you want" movement
Lubyanka |
08.09.08 - 8:37 pm | #
i didn't really grok it till i worked for the federal government.
charley
Yes!
The book as much a slam at American bureaucatic life as an anti-war story.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:38 pm | #
I was thinking of Congo, not Coma.
Getting old is lame.
melior
Any movie with Laura Linney is a good movie, except perhaps that one.
John Lennon |
08.09.08 - 8:38 pm | #
He's like Ken Follet. They both wrote one great book, and now foolishly continue to publish rubbish.
I don't know I'd go that far. I'd say Follett bats about .200 or .250. I enjoyed Pillars of the Earth.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:38 pm | #
Looking up info on McCain, I noticed that he was born in 1936 so it seems that he was a bit old to be flying jets in the 1960s.
Havin' the right Daddy does wonders even when you're a shitty student. Just ask George Bush.
Supreme Commander Thor |
08.09.08 - 8:38 pm | #
congo had the least convincing movie apes i've ever seen.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:38 pm | #
If I had practiced with my mates in the garage for weeks, and then had to follow up Sultans of Swing, I think i would just cry and go home.
melior
NO SHIT.
It was a pretty sedate show, given Knopfler being middle aged, along with most of the audience.
But Jaysus, he had us out of our seats and SCREAMING with Sultans of Swing.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:39 pm | #
The one I've never been able to stand is Tom Clancy...
ProfWombat
I am so fucking sick of Jack Fucking Ryan I could hurl. That one where tha Japanese airline pilot crashed into the Capitol, I said to myself, Ryan's gonna be Preznit next. And he was, and I bailed. One of the few times content, rather than style, has turned me off an author.
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08.09.08 - 8:39 pm | #
it's always amused me that wingnuts in this country forget that the chicoms and other commie regimes slaughtered addicts and drug users as they came to power. they believed there was no place for them in a communist society, and that drug use was a western plot to unbalance and weaken their home nations. oddly, they turned out to be (mostly) correct.
projection: the first, and most essential quality of wingnuts everywhere.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 8:39 pm | #
it seems that he was a bit old to be crashing jets in the 1960s.
sekmet
I rarely shop at Borders anymore, given their prominent placement of every right-wing piece of trash...
wow, you must not have a Books-a-Million where you are.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:40 pm | #
projection: the first, and most essential quality of wingnuts everywhere.
chicago dyke, one w/simels
cf dogfucking et al
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:40 pm | #
I read Andromeda Strain when I was abt 11. It freaked me out.
That and a bunch of Doonesbury collections were the only books I could find when we moved into this dumpy little place just outside Charlotte Amalie.
Toby Petzold
You assclown, you probably read some cheap porno potboiler called the Androgenous Strain. In any case, that describes your dis-ease. You are the androgenous strain, and an amorphous mass of hairy blubbert cheeto stained corpulence.
John Lennon |
08.09.08 - 8:40 pm | #
hey you never get too old to crash jets!
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08.09.08 - 8:41 pm | #
I don't know I'd go that far. I'd say Follett bats about .200 or .250. I enjoyed Pillars of the Earth.
theodoric of athens
As long as you only read it once. I made the mistake of buying it a second time--I thought it was the sequel, and thought, since I just paid 20 bucks for it, at least I'd enjoy it the second time.
Meanie: got into one Clancy book long enough to meet a pusillanimous president, trying to keep the competent professionals from doing their job, under the malign influence of a female political science professor, from Bennington College, of all places, as his national security advisor. I nearly laughed out loud...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:41 pm | #
/tinfoil hat on
Bush and McCain spent most of the late 1960s drinking hard likker and fucking their brains out in Alabama while others thought they were in TANG or some North Vietnamese hotel. That is where they cemented their weird relationship.
chidy: well, thank you, coming off vacation. I'll read that story and get back to you...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:42 pm | #
Well, I would fuck Jack Ryan before he got so fat and shape-shifted into an even older dude.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 8:42 pm | #
I enjoed the Androgenous Strain
David Bowie |
08.09.08 - 8:42 pm | #
The identity of indiscernibles is an ontological principle which states that two or more objects or entities are identical (are one and the same entity), if they have all their properties in common. That is, entities x and y are identical if any predicate possessed by x is also possessed by y and vice versa. A related principle is the indiscernibility of identicals, discussed below.
max |
08.09.08 - 8:43 pm | #
Edwards taking paternity test?
how much did he or his campaign pay Rielle Hunter?
Lubyanka |
08.09.08 - 8:44 pm | #
The 'identity of indiscernables' is also known as Leibniz's law since a form of it is attributed to the German philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. It is one of his two great metaphysical principles, the other being the principle of sufficient reason. Both are famously used in his arguments with Newton and Clarke in the Leibniz-Clarke correspondence.
max |
08.09.08 - 8:44 pm | #
got into one Clancy book long enough to meet a pusillanimous president, trying to keep the competent professionals from doing their job, under the malign influence of a female political science professor, from Bennington College, of all places, as his national security advisor
that is a favorite right wing script, with a bit of variation. clancy fleshes it out a bit, and becomes a millionaire.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:44 pm | #
'The identity of indiscernibles is an ontological principle which states that two or more objects or entities are identical (are one and the same entity), if they have all their properties in common.'
Pauli's Exclusion Principle makes a mockery of this idea...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 8:45 pm | #
Androgny has always left me confused...
Paul Westerberg |
08.09.08 - 8:45 pm | #
I have been reading a series of mysteries set in Paris by Cara Black. They're not bad even though you can figure out the bad guy pretty quickly. The best part is her descriptions of modern multicultural Paris.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 8:45 pm | #
that is a favorite right wing script, with a bit of variation. clancy fleshes it out a bit, and becomes a millionaire.
pretzelattack
I'm ok with it, so long as we understand that's marketing, not literature. Give 'em what they want, and all that.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:45 pm | #
but my favorite book is by thomas wolfe, 'look homeward angel'.
which if i recall correctly begins thusly: out of the womb, oh lost.
charley |
08.09.08 - 8:46 pm | #
My books are well researched. I was even opposed to the Iraq invasion. So there. I'm a DFH!
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 8:46 pm | #
A related principle is the indiscernibility of identicals, discussed below.
max | 08.09.08 - 8:43 pm | #
Well, motherfucker they are all discernible. Plus quit discussing my ass.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 8:46 pm | #
I enjoed the Androgenous Strain
David Bowie
I enjoyed Homo Como Coma, about a dastardly scheme to put Perry Como in a coma so as to harvest his sweaters and slacks to undermine fashion and thus thwart the gay agenda.
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08.09.08 - 8:46 pm | #
leibkins, i'm not sure Chimpy has any "friends." he strikes me as too self-absorbed and concerned, too spoiled, and too shallow to ever engage in what we'd call 'friendship.' can i see him squealing like a pig while he plays butt-boi to jimmyjeff during one of the infamous 171 night time visits to the WH? sure. but everyone else in his life is a servant, good luck charm to haid-rub, or surrogate for mommy and daddy for him to boss around. also, he can't stand anyone smarter than himself, so that rules out about 99% of those who can engage in, define, or spell "friendship."
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 8:46 pm | #
hey maybe tobes can help us out here with this discussion of indiscernibles and such. he seems to want to debate wombat.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:46 pm | #
Chidy, that story was enthralling.
You'll be writing more, won't you?
I won't take no for an answer.
Your background is in ancient near eastern studies, is it not? A wonderful mix of drama and versimilitude. I love an engaging story that I also learn from.
If you're looking for birthday excuses to share them, I have one in April you are welcome to use.
I just don't want to wait that long for another
left rev., rookie cheesehead |
08.09.08 - 8:46 pm | #
My favorite book is at the race track.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 8:47 pm | #
The 'identity of indiscernables' is also known as Leibniz's law since a form of it is attributed to the German philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz.
aha
The Kenosha Kid |
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08.09.08 - 8:47 pm | #
The identity of indiscernibles is an ontological principle which states that two or more objects or entities are identical (are one and the same entity), if they have all their properties in common
This where van Vogt got his "20-decimal similarity"?
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
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08.09.08 - 8:47 pm | #
The 'identity of indiscernables' is also known as Leibniz's law
max
Sad that the poor sod never lived to see his famous maxim shredded by quantum mechanics.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:47 pm | #
that is a favorite right wing script, with a bit of variation. clancy fleshes it out a bit, and becomes a millionaire.
red october made clancy a millionaire. the soft porn just made him silly rich, but one of my old college buddies took care of that.
damn, I said I wasn't going to tell that story.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:48 pm | #
leibkins, i'm not sure Chimpy has any "friends." he strikes me as too self-absorbed and concerned, too spoiled, and too shallow to ever engage in what we'd call 'friendship.' can i see him squealing like a pig while he plays butt-boi to jimmyjeff during one of the infamous 171 night time visits to the WH? sure. but everyone else in his life is a servant, good luck charm to haid-rub, or surrogate for mommy and daddy for him to boss around. also, he can't stand anyone smarter than himself, so that rules out about 99% of those who can engage in, define, or spell "friendship."
chicago dyke, one w/simels
Someone needs to cull chidy's comments and put them in a book. Lots of wisdom there.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:48 pm | #
Although it might be a bit like fucking a cocker spaniel.
If Obama becomes president you will be forced to fuck spaniels in the buses that are used to carry women to their mandatory abortions. And you won't get paid for it, and neither will the bus driver or the abortionists, because Obama promises fewer jobs. He promises!
masculine_monica_nyc |
08.09.08 - 8:48 pm | #
looks like lube yankee owes someone a coke.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:49 pm | #
but one of my old college buddies took care of that.
damn, I said I wasn't going to tell that story.
theodoric of athens
Oh, come on.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:49 pm | #
D'oh! A coke to Prof Wombat.
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:49 pm | #
If Obama becomes president you will be forced to fuck spaniels in the buses that are used to carry women to their mandatory abortions. And you won't get paid for it, and neither will the bus driver or the abortionists, because Obama promises fewer jobs. He promises!
masculine_monica_nyc
I think you forgot to take your anti-Michelle Bachman pill.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:50 pm | #
toby seems to have left. i did so look forward to his discussion with prof wombat. hey! maybe he volunteered to go fight in iraq!
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:50 pm | #
looks like lube yankee owes someone a coke.
theodoric of athens
He steals my lines all the time. That's why he comes here. And the drinks.
I'll just drain the lizard in it and give it back to him.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 8:50 pm | #
Clancy was going to buy the Minnesota Vikings, once upon a time.
Turned out he was full of shit with regard to how much money he could bring to the table. Completely full of shit.
He had about a buck ninety-five.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:51 pm | #
hey why dont you tell the story and then we can all pretend you didn't?
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:51 pm | #
Hey, TKK! How was your trip to Italy?
masculine_monica_nyc |
08.09.08 - 8:51 pm | #
My favorite modern novelist is John Fowles, I have read many of his books five or six time. I could pick up Daniel Martin right now and think I'm having a new experience. I love him.
mer |
08.09.08 - 8:51 pm | #
It's getting about supper time...
Y'all take care of your good selves, and thanks for the fun.
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08.09.08 - 8:52 pm | #
i liked the magus when i read it a long time ago.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:52 pm | #
I thought it interesting that our crack media doesn't seem to mention that Georgia is right next to Azerbajan which is right next to Iran. Oh goody, nothing like a little war in a highly volutile area.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 8:52 pm | #
The trip to Italy was good. I saw everything there was to see there.
The Kenosha Kid |
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08.09.08 - 8:52 pm | #
If Obama becomes president you will be forced to fuck spaniels in the buses that are used to carry women to their mandatory abortions. And you won't get paid for it, and neither will the bus driver or the abortionists, because Obama promises fewer jobs. He promises!
masculine_monica_nyc
Great. You just handed them next week's talking points on a big sloppy platter
left rev., rookie cheesehead |
08.09.08 - 8:52 pm | #
Those monad windows are VERY small
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
08.09.08 - 8:52 pm | #
thanks, adam and left rev. /blushes/
...it was very hard for me to publish that. my fiction is to me as young children are to their parents. precious and too tender for the greater world, to be protected and hidden. but i owe MJS a lot, and i thought he deserved an honest effort on my part.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 8:53 pm | #
Edumacated readers congregate here.
Books are so pre 9/11.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 8:53 pm | #
So narcissist walks into a New York bar and meets a legendarily wacky former Gotham party girl — whose ’80s exploits were chronicled in a novel by her former boyfriend Jay McInerney because the behavior of her and her friends “intrigued and appalled me.” When you appall Jay McInerney, you know you’re in trouble.
The president manqué gives Rielle Hunter, formerly Lisa Druck, more than $114,000 to shoot vain little videos for his Web site (even though she’s a neophyte), one of which is scored with the song “True Reflections” about the Narcissus pool, which goes: “When you look into a mirror, do you like what’s looking at you? Now that you’ve seen your true reflections, what on earth are you gonna do?”
He has an affair with Hunter, while he’s honing his speech on the imperative to “live in a moral, honest, just America.”
= 'Using the sword given you'
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QuentinCompson Downscale Dem |
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08.09.08 - 8:53 pm | #
At one point Clancy entertained notions of buying his home town NFL franchise, the Vikings. So he went out and hired a consultant, who bled him dry enough that he couldn't entertain such notions any further.
I happen to know that consultant.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 8:53 pm | #
My favorite modern novelist is John Fowles, I have read many of his books five or six time. I could pick up Daniel Martin right now and think I'm having a new experience. I love him.
Yeah, some very good books from him over the years. I think my favorite is Mantissa
montag |
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08.09.08 - 8:53 pm | #
Well ChiDy, you did a good job of raising up that youngun.
I hope there are more ready to fly from the nest soon
left rev., rookie cheesehead |
08.09.08 - 8:54 pm | #
Some credit card company did a commercial with Tom Clancy wearing an army helmet and sitting in a fox hole which is complete bullshit because Clancy never served.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 8:54 pm | #
Those monad windows are VERY small
leibniz leibkins
You haven't upgraded to monad vista yet?
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:54 pm | #
My favorite modern novelist is John Fowles, I have read many of his books five or six time. I could pick up Daniel Martin right now and think I'm having a new experience. I love him.
me
Daniel Martin did not work for me. The Magus and FLW are wonderful, I've read each one over and over and always find something new.
Duplicate post my ass!
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 8:55 pm | #
I think you forgot to take your anti-Michelle Bachman pill.
It's possible I took too many.
masculine_monica_nyc |
08.09.08 - 8:55 pm | #
Some credit card company did a commercial with Tom Clancy wearing an army helmet and sitting in a fox hole which is complete bullshit because Clancy never served.
sekmet
I am always served - at the bar.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 8:56 pm | #
Dude, you are so twentieth century.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 8:56 pm | #
i liked the magus when i read it a long time ago."
--pretzelattack
He reissued a revised addition. It's not my favorite, but the mood he sets in that book is amazing.
mer |
08.09.08 - 8:57 pm | #
At one point Clancy entertained notions of buying his home town NFL franchise, the Vikings. So he went out and hired a consultant, who bled him dry enough that he couldn't entertain such notions any further.
normally i would be sympathetic to the writer in this story. heh.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 8:57 pm | #
I wrote post 9/11 fiction pre 9/11. I was way berfore my time when I was passed my prime.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 8:57 pm | #
I think the last modern fiction writer I read was Carl Hiassen, which I read over and over because he cracks my shit up.
Mostly, I read a lot of theology-currently reading John Crossen, God and Empire right now, for the second time. He rocks pretty hard.
left rev., rookie cheesehead |
08.09.08 - 8:57 pm | #
So narcissist walks into a New York bar
tl;dr.
...and then Tonto's tribal chief said, "We let the cattle range free around here, so be careful you don't step in any Kemo Sabe."
melior |
08.09.08 - 8:57 pm | #
McCain Camp: Obama "Bizarrely In Sync With Moscow"
My opponent is in league with the Politburo!
The Kenosha Kid |
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08.09.08 - 8:58 pm | #
passed? Too mush whishkey?
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 8:58 pm | #
sekmet, the SCLM doesn't know where those nations are on a map, let alone the significance of a conflict in noo-kyu-lar states nearby. besides, edwards has a penis and uses it! stop the presses!
Turned out he was full of shit with regard to how much money he could bring to the table. Completely full of shit.
the number of wingnuts competent with money is near zero; you philosophy types can come up with the appropriate theory to describe that figure. but take away wingnut and corporate welfare, the 'good old boys club' of opportunity and advancement over those with merit, establishment and inheritance, and 99% of them will fail. even when they have millions, or billions, or trillions (such as in chimpy's case), the best they can usually do is blow it while enriching some of their slightly smarter friends. it's reason #239452943 why i am an arachist and anit-capitalist; capitalism is just another word for "i'm dumb and i need to be handed everything" as said by winger white guys and now, their brown tyrannical buddies who sit atop oil.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 8:59 pm | #
My opponent is in league with the Politburo!
The Kenosha Kid
I have here in my hand the names of ...
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 8:59 pm | #
Obama's supposed to be 'mysteriously' in synch with Moscow? How 'bout Dear Leader's "seeing into Putin's soul" line?
Or is this Bush's "romantic" side off-limits, too?
nick carraway |
08.09.08 - 8:59 pm | #
Some credit card company did a commercial with Tom Clancy wearing an army helmet and sitting in a fox hole which is complete bullshit because Clancy never served.
He failed an ROTC eye examine. At least it wasn't anal cysts.
Supreme Commander Thor |
08.09.08 - 8:59 pm | #
That was Putin's other soul. The one he keeps in a jar by the door.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 9:00 pm | #
My favorite modern novelist is John Fowles, I have read many of his books five or six time. I could pick up Daniel Martin right now and think I'm having a new experience. I love him.
I have a friend who lived on an island. There were twin sisters and he ended up sleeping with one. He was like a living Fowler novel.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
08.09.08 - 9:00 pm | #
heh, he couldn't even make into rotc? lifelong wannabe.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:00 pm | #
So, today I spent the day browsing Wikipedia's various articles on the countries, peoples, languages, and history of the Caucasus region.
With some diversions into the Mongol empire and the country of Kazakhstan.
I think there are going to be conficts in Georgia for a long time.
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:00 pm | #
robert bloch?
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:00 pm | #
That was Putin's other soul. The one he keeps in a jar by the door.
sekmet
Huh. Eleanor Rigby kept rice in a jar by the door.
Coincidence? I think not.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:01 pm | #
Your friend slept with one of his twin sisters? That's sick, dude.
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:01 pm | #
He failed an ROTC eye examine
What a coincidence, so did I. I briefly considered going on to write really crappy military/political potboilers that people would read on airplane flights, then toss into the nearest garbage can at their destination, but my life went in different directions.
I think the last modern fiction writer I read was Carl Hiassen, which I read over and over because he cracks my shit up.
left rev., rookie cheesehead
Heh, I finally exhausted every Elmore Leonard in the greater library system including some relatively weak older westerns and so I've moved on to Hiassen now.
I'm about halfway thru his oeuvre and so far Skinny Dip is my favorite.
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:01 pm | #
Heh, I finally exhausted every Elmore Leonard in the greater library system including some relatively weak older westerns and so I've moved on to Hiassen now.
I'm about halfway thru his oeuvre and so far Skinny Dip is my favorite.
melior
Its a toss up between Skinny Dip and Native Tongue for me.
left rev., rookie cheesehead |
08.09.08 - 9:04 pm | #
Why does it look like he's trying to slap that young woman's ass?
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:04 pm | #
i'm not sure jay mcinerney's fiction is the best source for news.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:04 pm | #
Stalin was Georgian, you know.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 9:05 pm | #
the 'good old boys club' of opportunity and advancement over those with merit, establishment and inheritance, and 99% of them will fail. even when they have millions, or billions, or trillions (such as in chimpy's case), the best they can usually do is blow it while enriching some of their slightly smarter friends. it's reason #239452943 why i am an arachist and anit-capitalist; capitalism is just another word for "i'm dumb and i need to be handed everything" as said by winger white guys and now, their brown tyrannical buddies who sit atop oil.
chicago dyke, one w/simels
The Drunkards Walk is a pretty good book. Basically, all success is mostly luck.
Also people who think the world is a meritocracy are full of shit. Look at Dubya.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:05 pm | #
HBK- i like you, i really do. please don't make me look at such again. i must purge and smoke and take strong medication now, to clear my memory of tht image. ick.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 9:05 pm | #
Turned out he was full of shit with regard to how much money he could bring to the table. Completely full of shit.
well, apparently he had some before he hired a consultant.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:08 pm | #
You are cooler than me
Not like that actually.
Temperature cooler.
Barndog, cooler than you |
08.09.08 - 9:08 pm | #
fokowi: ignoring it's good enough for me...
Gomez: an honest accounting of the Bush years--a great deal to hope for--and, of course, much else of American history, really wouldn't allow for a shred of American exceptionalism to persist...
ProfWombat | 08.09.08 - 7:49 pm | #
where to begin?
fokowi
but not cutting and pasting the trolls?
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 7:49 pm | #
hey. i should've typed: where to begin...
it was meant to be a rhetorical statement. you know, one of those that at the same time wasn't looking for a response nor was worth the electrons expended to create.
i blame the bloody mary's.
oh, yeah. and that fucking simels.
fokowi |
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08.09.08 - 9:09 pm | #
My favorite book is at the race track.
Clancy at the Bar
"get to the door, lost my house key, i read bukowsik." RHCP
who ever says sax is not the sexiest instrument, is just wrong.
charley |
08.09.08 - 9:09 pm | #
well, apparently he had some before he hired a consultant.
pretzelattack
Mostly, I read a lot of theology-currently reading John Crossen, God and Empire right now, for the second time. He rocks pretty hard.
left rev., rookie cheesehead
My favorite theology/ancient history author is Richard Carrier.
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:10 pm | #
The WIKI entry on Georgia mentions that George W. Bush is the first sitting president to visit Georgia. People should know better than to invite that jinx to visit.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 9:10 pm | #
Would somebody care to explain this photo to me?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiant
Misty May asked Bush to slap her on the butt for good luck, as is tradition in volleyball.
Stupid, to his credit, declined.
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.09.08 - 9:10 pm | #
Stalin was Georgian, you know.
theodoric of athens | 08.09.08 - 9:05 pm | #
So is Jimmy Carter!
Prior Aelred |
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08.09.08 - 9:10 pm | #
Stupid, to his credit, declined.
Culture of TrÜth
What is he, about 60? Only took 60 years for him to perform one act of grace.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:11 pm | #
who ever says sax is not the sexiest instrument, is just wrong.
charley
To drink Scotch whiskey all night long, and die behind the wheel.
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:12 pm | #
The WIKI entry on Georgia mentions that George W. Bush is the first sitting president to visit Georgia. People should know better than to invite that jinx to visit.
sekmet
Is there any possibility we could pay them to keep him?
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:12 pm | #
Only took 60 years for him to perform one act of grace.
Adam Hominem
You're not counting all the times he held a girl's hair while she puked.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
08.09.08 - 9:12 pm | #
I still don't understand how people could have ever admitted publicly to being John Edwards supporters. I mean, jeeze: the guy was less qualified to be President than Dan Fucking Quayle. What sort of self-lobotomizing must you endure to think he would have been a good President?
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08.09.08 - 9:12 pm | #
I was thinking of foregoing beer, tonight, but I'm having second thoughts.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.09.08 - 9:12 pm | #
i'm pretty shocked he declined, since he usually likes to invade people's personal space. maybe it is because she invited him to.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:12 pm | #
Have a good evening everyone. I've got some good reading suggestions if I ever get time to utilize them.
ChiDy, again. Great story. Thank you for sharing it with us.
left rev., rookie cheesehead |
08.09.08 - 9:12 pm | #
Heh. The Chimp in Chief is outraged -- OUTRAGED! -- that one country has invaded another.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 9:13 pm | #
suskind: i have the tapes. please subpoena me.
dems: la la la la, i can't hear you.
gary in fl |
08.09.08 - 9:13 pm | #
So I've mentioned this several times, but this NBC online Olympics coverage totally rocks.
Whoa, now that's some good spoofing.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 9:13 pm | #
He's stupid, not an idiot.
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.09.08 - 9:14 pm | #
So no history lessons from fokowi. Oh, well...
Toby Petzold |
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08.09.08 - 9:14 pm | #
I still don't understand how people could have ever admitted publicly to being John Edwards supporters. I mean, jeeze: the guy was less qualified to be President than Dan Fucking Quayle. What sort of self-lobotomizing must you endure to think he would have been a good President?
Toby Petzold
Pretty funny, coming from a guy who supports the most unqualified one of all.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:14 pm | #
the guy was less qualified to be President than Dan Fucking Quayle
How do you figure that? Is coming from a rich family an instant pass or something?
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:14 pm | #
There is a street named after Bush in Tbilisi. Now wouldn't it be ironic if it got blown all to shit.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 9:14 pm | #
Barndog: I didn't forego beer.
Well, I gotta go fetch it, then. I best start now!
bbl
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.09.08 - 9:14 pm | #
You're not counting all the times he held a girl's hair while she puked.
I have the distinct feeling that was the other way around... a lot of women got their hair filthy holding his head while he puked....
montag |
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08.09.08 - 9:14 pm | #
To drink Scotch whiskey all night long, and die behind the wheel.
melior
Sue me if I play too long!
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 9:14 pm | #
Why do they always go for the ones who can't keep their mouths shut?
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:15 pm | #
Both Dan Quayle and John Edwards were over 35 and natural-born citizens.
But for those requirements, my terriers would be as fully qualified to be vice-president as, say, Richard B. Fucking Cheney.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 9:15 pm | #
gaii, to his credit and the shame of the queer community, declined.
Culture of TrÜth
fyt.
Dog, what colors do you think would be good for the dye? black and white? a mix of the kenyan, american, and traditional islamic flags? /scampers/
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 9:16 pm | #
i've read that einstein played around. didn't seem to affect his work, much.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:16 pm | #
Why do they always go for the ones who can't keep their mouths shut?
you can't give a mouth hug with a... oh never mind.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 9:17 pm | #
That black thing stimulates lymph node drainage. Ewwww. I would have preferred to continue thinking someone got silly with a sharpie.
Neponset |
08.09.08 - 9:17 pm | #
who ever says sax is not the sexiest instrument, is just wrong.
charley
Naked woman with cello. No match.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:17 pm | #
So, today I spent the day browsing Wikipedia's various articles on the countries, peoples, languages, and history of the Caucasus region.
With some diversions into the Mongol empire and the country of Kazakhstan.
I think there are going to be conficts in Georgia for a long time.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:00 pm | #
I've no idea of the accuracy of Wiki's Caucasus entries. I only know from what I've read a long time ago back in the days of the USSR.
It's one of those regions I suspect would do better if their larger and more powerful neighbors (especially the Russians) would leave them alone.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:17 pm | #
Her latest project was John Edwards. Edwards, she said, was an old soul who had barely tapped into any of his potential. The real John Edwards, she believed, was a brilliant, generous, giving man who was driven by competing impulses—to feed his ego and serve the world.
The WIKI entry on Georgia mentions that George W. Bush is the first
sitting president to visit Georgia. People should know better than to
invite that jinx to visit.
Georgia deliberately changed their flag from a brown field with a black and white canton to an unmistakeable crusader theme, red crosses on a white field. They sent troopps to Iraq and Afghanistan. Posters in the capital show W almost as much as the nation's leader. The road to the national airport is called George W Bush Road. Is there a pattern here?
Swiftboating, n. Telling the truth abt the character, claims, or actions of a Democratic politician that cannot be disputed without verifying the truth of the initial assertion.
Toby Petzold |
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08.09.08 - 9:18 pm | #
Her speech was peppered with New Age jargon—human beings were dragged down by "blockages" to their actual potential; history was the story of souls entering and escaping our field of consciousness. A seminal book for her had been Eckhart Tolle's "The Power of Now." Her purpose on this Earth, she said, was to help raise awareness about all this, to help the unenlightened become better reflections of their true, repressed selves.
i've read that einstein played around. didn't seem to affect his work, much.
pretzelattack
With women and the violin. Where do you think Jack Benny got the idea?
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:20 pm | #
I have to remove a blockage to my human potential. BRB.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:21 pm | #
I'm getting sick of all this corporate slobberage over Michael Phelps.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 9:21 pm | #
gomez, what are you quoting from?
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:21 pm | #
Swiftboating, n.
Jesus, Toby, can it be that you really don't understand that we ignore and/or ridicule you, not because you are right and we resent you, but simply because you are so fucking boring and one-note?
Never mind that that one note is a really dorky-sounding foghorn.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 9:22 pm | #
"blockages"? That sounds like scientolgy.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 9:22 pm | #
Tlaz:
How do you figure that? Is coming from a rich family an instant pass or something?
No, I mean on paper. Objectively. Quayle was more qualified by more areas of historically recognized experience expected of Presidents than was Edwards.
Toby Petzold |
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08.09.08 - 9:22 pm | #
All Toby's dreams of running his fingers through that $400 haircut dashed. He'll never forgive him for being straight. Never.
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:22 pm | #
Swiftboating, n. Telling the truth abt the character, claims, or actions of a Democratic politician that cannot be disputed without verifying the truth of the initial assertion.
Deluded, lying fucking asshole.
But, then, Putzoid, being a deluded, lying fucking asshole is your metier.
montag |
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08.09.08 - 9:22 pm | #
yeah yeah... Einstein, Eisenhower, JFK,... it's a wonder we're not all speaking German or commie talk...
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.09.08 - 9:22 pm | #
Well, back to the O-lympics. Now how did the moonbats accomplish that?
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 9:22 pm | #
Somebody attacked and killed some American toursists and then jumped to his death in Beijing.
Clancy at the Bar
The TV in the bar you're in must be on like a 10 hour delay.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:23 pm | #
i've read that einstein played around. didn't seem to affect his work, much.
pretzelattack
That's nothin' -- check out Surely You Must Be Joking, Mr. Feynman.
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:23 pm | #
k&y- it's not like there are a lot of 'good' regimes over there, nor anywhere, these days. all i have is feeling for the poor and regular folk, who probably don't understand why bombs are falling, and who likely just went along to get along, politcally speaking, with the more powerful who lead their various nations. the poor and conscripted and women and children always lose, in any war.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 9:23 pm | #
McCain just ran an ad on the Olympics - wow I didn't know he was a liberal democrat and Obama was big toothed celebrity.
Culture of TrÜth |
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08.09.08 - 9:24 pm | #
The woman is a 24 karat space cadet.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:24 pm | #
Well, as far as dictionary definitions go, it needs some tightening, but I'll submit it to Noah Webster yet.
Toby Petzold |
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08.09.08 - 9:24 pm | #
Surely You Must Be Joking, Mr. Feynman.
Don't call me Shirley! /Mr. Feynman
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 9:24 pm | #
She tried to hit on the reporter.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:24 pm | #
If she promised not to talk much...
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:25 pm | #
"I feel a special connection between us"
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:25 pm | #
The TV in the bar you're in must be on like a 10 hour delay.
Adam Hominem
I just woke up and hit the lounge. I'm a best selling novelist, not a banker!
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:25 pm | #
It's one of those regions I suspect would do better if their larger and more powerful neighbors (especially the Russians) would leave them alone.
Well, they don't seem to be helping things, but there are several areas of current Georgia that don't really want to be part of Georgia anymore. The Ossetians want to join Alania (North Ossetia) and much of what used to be known as Colchis would also like to be independent. In fact, the Abkhazians are taking advantage of the situation by launching assaults against the Georgians in Kodori Gorge.
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:25 pm | #
I hear that I know my dick is getting sucked.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:25 pm | #
I'd bet money she wasn't born with the name Rielle.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:26 pm | #
it's not like there are a lot of 'good' regimes over there, nor anywhere, these days.
This is a lot simpler than that. Russia has a lot you could criticize it for. Georgia has a lot you could criticize it for. Recently, Georgia killed Russians in the attempt to kill Ossetians. They are getting exactly what they apparently wanted -- maybe instead of Israeli military advisors they should've had Germans.
McCain's ads targeting the all important Uyghur-American vote.
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:26 pm | #
geez gomez, you really know how to cheer a former edwards supporter up.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:26 pm | #
Hi ChiDY -- hauw U B ?
Prior Aelred |
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08.09.08 - 9:26 pm | #
"I feel a special connection between us"
Gomez
What is it with these Southern boys and their taste for skanky women?
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:27 pm | #
In thought Rael was the 24 karat space cadet? There are two?
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:27 pm | #
No, I mean on paper. Objectively. Quayle was more qualified by more areas of historically recognized experience expected of Presidents than was Edwards.
k&y- it's not like there are a lot of 'good' regimes over there, nor anywhere, these days. all i have is feeling for the poor and regular folk, who probably don't understand why bombs are falling, and who likely just went along to get along, politcally speaking, with the more powerful who lead their various nations. the poor and conscripted and women and children always lose, in any war.
chicago dyke, one w/simels | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:23 pm |
Sad thing is there has been intermittent fighting there for almost 20 years. You fight, you rebuild, and then fight some more. And most of it appears to be stupid 'leadership', including Russia antogonizing Georgia.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:28 pm | #
They are getting exactly what they apparently wanted -- maybe instead of Israeli military advisors they should've had Germans.
k&y, nyarlathotep
Given the gruesome Chechnyian example, you'd have to be a bloodthirsty maniac to want to go to war with Russia.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:28 pm | #
No, I mean on paper.
Toby does it on the paper or he gets the hose again.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:28 pm | #
it sez a lot about our times that pols have chippies like that. in other times, "those women" have often been beautiful, skilled, brainy, and political operators in their own rights, as much desired by cheating pols for their intellects as for their shape/ability to suck golf balls thru garden hoses toothlessly. today, our leaderz want to have at it with the geniuses like jimmyjeff, "gifted youngsters", bath stall cruise queens, and now astral projection lady. sigh. gimme a pompadour anyday, you know?
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 9:29 pm | #
Hagee must be having a hookers and blow party.
War On War Off |
08.09.08 - 9:29 pm | #
Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe.
- Toby's lust muffin
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:29 pm | #
What is it with these Southern boys and their taste for skanky women?
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 9:27 pm | #
What an asshole that guy is.
rootless-e |
08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
Edwards met her in a bar in Manhattan.
WTF was he doing there?
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
I didn't know how that lady said her name until I heard Wolf Blitzer say it.
See: Big Media still validates all truths.
Is she a Raelian? That's what it sounds like to me. Maybe it's a clone of Edwards' dead son with the offending appendage removed.
Toby Petzold |
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08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
who ever says sax is not the sexiest instrument, is just wrong.
charley
if everyone knows that bush lied us into war, and suskind has evidence, where are the democrats?
gary in fl |
08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
i mean, i'm trying to retain some respect for edwards, and now i find out he risked it all for, as c.d. said, an "astral projection queen".
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
Dogburner: a frustrated, lonely, and blobby coward - who takes joy in the torture of defenseless animals as his only hope for power in his miserable life
butler's an ass |
08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
There's a woman who has written a couple of autobiographical novels, whose name escapes me right now because if the Alzheimers. Anyway, she was from Texas, and at one point in one of the books described a good date as one in which you came home, took off your underwear, threw them at the wall, and if they stuck, then it had been a good date.
The Liars Club. That's one of the books. Her name still escapes me tho.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:31 pm | #
The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.
- Toby's dream date
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:31 pm | #
Good to see the McCain campaign wasting money on prime time TV ads in NY where they are going to get buried by double digits.
Tralfaz |
08.09.08 - 9:31 pm | #
Bari sax gives me a chubby.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:31 pm | #
And most of it appears to be stupid 'leadership', including Russia antogonizing Georgia.
No, it really isn't that simple, and Georgia actually shares in a good part of the blame in this situation. Saakashvili, after he was elected, said that he was going to crack down on secessionist areas, despite the people in South Ossetia holding a referendum in 2006 which said they wanted to be independent of Georgia.
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:31 pm | #
NBC is now going to explain to me whey women's beach volleyball is so doggone popular.
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 9:31 pm | #
chidyke, she'd be like shooting fish in a barrel for you.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:32 pm | #
Toby does it on the paper or he gets the hose again.
Clancy at the Bar | 08.09.08 - 9:28 pm | #
No, don't do it again. The last time I was in Rome the same thing happened to me.
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 9:32 pm | #
if everyone knows that bush lied us into war, and suskind has evidence, where are the democrats? -gary in fl
i mean, i'm trying to retain some respect for edwards, and now i find out he risked it all for, as c.d. said, an "astral projection queen".
pretzelattack | 08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
I'd be totally sympathetic to someone who risked and even lost it all outta lust, but not to someone who was prepared to drag the country down with him.
rootless-e |
08.09.08 - 9:32 pm | #
May I please haz some chocolate?
We just got back from having s'mores with neighbors around their campfire. They have more.
Gromit, dirty hippie scientist |
08.09.08 - 9:32 pm | #
You never danced with a girl from Texas? You're missin' out.
melior
Damn drugs.
There's a woman who has written a couple of autobiographical novels, whose name escapes me right now because if the Alzheimers. Anyway, she was from Texas, and at one point in one of the books described a good date as one in which you came home, took off your underwear, threw them at the wall, and if they stuck, then it had been a good date.
The Liars Club. That's one of the books. Her name still escapes me tho.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:32 pm | #
To drink Scotch whiskey all night long, and die behind the wheel.
melior
how many times have i listened to this song and not realized the reference of Deacon Blues' moniker, or even your reference.
It's one of those regions I suspect would do better if their larger and more powerful neighbors (especially the Russians) would leave them alone.
Well, they don't seem to be helping things, but there are several areas of current Georgia that don't really want to be part of Georgia anymore. The Ossetians want to join Alania (North Ossetia) and much of what used to be known as Colchis would also like to be independent. In fact, the Abkhazians are taking advantage of the situation by launching assaults against the Georgians in Kodori Gorge.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:25 p
Georgian behavior toward the Ossestians, especially during the first battles back in the early 1990's, has been stupid and appalling. It doesn't help that the breakaway areas are being encouraged by Russia.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:32 pm | #
i mean, i'm trying to retain some respect for edwards, and now i find out he risked it all for, as c.d. said, an "astral projection queen".
pretzelattack
Huh?
He married the hot brainy one, he just got his ashes hauled on the side by the coo coo blondie. Does that sound like a bad move to you?
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:33 pm | #
The woman is a 24 karat space cadet.
I cannot believe a rich and powerful man would go for that type!
in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history.
There are eight planets in our nation's solar system.
Tralfaz |
08.09.08 - 9:33 pm | #
swiftboating, n. the promotion of lies about a Democratic candidate, crafted in such a manner that no level of fact can satisfactorily dispute them, the intent of which is to force the candidate to bear the onus of proof normally required of the promoter of such lies. See "dirty tricks," "Nixonian politics," and "Lee Atwater."
montag |
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08.09.08 - 9:33 pm | #
Chocolate? Anybody?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
Gives Dove milk chocolate to GWPDA.
I couln't get to TJ's for the good belgian stuff.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:34 pm | #
Given the gruesome Chechnyian example, you'd have to be a bloodthirsty maniac to want to go to war with Russia.
War Nerd is chilling to read on Chechnya. Apparently Russia tried to end their Chechen problem by ethnically cleansing them, deporting them all to a camp out East. But they didn't kill them. And the Chechens were consumed with revenge. Allegedly, all the Chechens did in their camps all day was fight. Wake up, go to a neighbor's tent, yell a challenge, fight with breaks for meals, sleep. The Chechens were extremely good fighters by the end of this, and when allowed to return to their country they forgot none of what was done to them, but they became an illustration of another great warrior culture more eager to die gloriously than to win. Russians wasted massive amounts of ordnance, wiping them out from a distance at negligible cost to themselves; the Chechens who survive are not alumni of the school of constant fighting. They might as well have worn ghost shirts.
I am sure that within the first five minutes of meeting Rielle she'd have already told me every gory detail of how Edwards did her.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:35 pm | #
it sez a lot about our times that pols have chippies like that. in other times, "those women" have often been beautiful, skilled, brainy, and political operators in their own rights, as much desired by cheating pols for their intellects as for their shape/ability to suck golf balls thru garden hoses toothlessly. today, our leaderz want to have at it with the geniuses like jimmyjeff, "gifted youngsters", bath stall cruise queens, and now astral projection lady. sigh. gimme a pompadour anyday, you know?
chicago dyke, one w/simels
There was a time, too, when even TV newscasters were nothing to look at. But they knew their business.
They're all gone now.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:35 pm | #
k&y- i'm so sick of wars of choice at this point, the reasons hardly matter anymore. i'm feeling like some bad winger sci-fi author, motivated to write about our species 'genetic need to kill itself periodically.'
Prior: fine! how are you? you, of all people after rmj and hecate, need to go over to my blog and read my fiction story i just put up. i think you'll like it. or we can fight about it, in a fun way.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 9:35 pm | #
There was a time, too, when even TV newscasters were nothing to look at. But they knew their business.
They're all gone now.
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 9:35 pm | #
ummn, not really. chet huntley and eric serveid and others were not too swift either. just selected for different cosmetic reasons.
Cronkite was smart, but he was an exception.
rootless-e |
08.09.08 - 9:38 pm | #
A small, and entirely unimportant note. After some five years or so of horrible endocrinological issues, today I discovered that my BMI is finally, finally, back within the 'normal' range. This, along with several other indicators, tells me that I am not going to die to-morrow and indeed, am going to be all right, generally. I iz very pleased. Endocrinologists are very gud peoples.
Isn't journalism a euphemism for having sex with married politicians?
A. Dumas, token black dood
Best line from a Carl Hiaasen novel:
"Ready, son? Let's go commit journalism."
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:39 pm | #
chicago dyke, one w/simels
We have read an nitriguing "grand unifying" conspiracy theory that sex scandals have been overtaken by blackmail, to the extent that aspiring politicians are turned gay so that the last drops of public disapproval of homosexuality can be exploited to ruin them if they ever disobey their masters. Once homosexuality goes all the way out shocking numbers of politicians will be found to have been secret paedos, unless that gets normal, at which time we expect that kittens will next. It sounds easy to dismiss that someone could be turned gay, especially if he's part of a militantly homophobic subculture, but we have actually met these creepy soulless empty-eyed Bob Roberts extras Young Republicans who would do anything to get in the special clubs in suburban Eastern Virginia...
k&y, nyarlathotep |
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08.09.08 - 9:39 pm | #
Not sacrifice every civilian within miles along with yourselves.
But their children's children's children are going to need a reason to hate Russians!
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 9:39 pm | #
I saw Steely Dan live Monday night. Sadly, they did not play my eponymous anthem
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 9:39 pm | #
Georgian behavior toward the Ossestians, especially during the first battles back in the early 1990's, has been stupid and appalling. It doesn't help that the breakaway areas are being encouraged by Russia.
Very true. Ossetia was sort of split into two during the last century, with about a third of the land area plunked into Georgia. North Ossetia has apparently had problems of it's own, with people fleeing west from Chechnya, and then there is Ingushetia in between. The Ingush were accused of cooperating with the Nazis and deported to Gulags in Kazakhstan; they were allowed to return in the late 1950s, but by then Ossetians had been moving in to claim the territory.
The whole are is a huge mishmash of linguistic and ethnic groups, there are over 15 languages spoken in the Caucasus region, probably lots of old wounds to nurture, just like in the Balkans.
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:39 pm | #
i mean, i'm trying to retain some respect for edwards, and now i find out he risked it all for, as c.d. said, an "astral projection queen".
Is that what they're calling star fuckers these days?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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08.09.08 - 9:40 pm | #
I wonder if the head in Patrick Bateman's fridge was based on Rielle?
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:40 pm | #
Bass CLARinet.
well, that's just a sax with some wood in it.
thanx for the clip.
charley |
08.09.08 - 9:40 pm | #
it sez a lot about our times that pols have chippies like that. in other times, "those women" have often been beautiful, skilled, brainy, and political operators in their own rights, as much desired by cheating pols for their intellects as for their shape
I had never thought of the Kennedys discussing world politics with Marilyn ...
rootless-e |
08.09.08 - 9:40 pm | #
how many times have i listened to this song and not realized the reference of Deacon Blues' moniker, or even your reference.
a lot of times.
charley
They even mention you by name in another song, charley. Deacon Blues knows who I am now. Damn.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:40 pm | #
After some five years or so of horrible endocrinological issues, today I discovered that my BMI is finally, finally, back within the 'normal' range. This, along with several other indicators, tells me that I am not going to die to-morrow and indeed, am going to be all right, generally. I iz very pleased.
Welcome news. We need your recipes, and Arthur needs some web access.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
08.09.08 - 9:41 pm | #
ummn, not really. chet huntley and eric serveid and others were not too swift either. just selected for different cosmetic reasons.
Cronkite was smart, but he was an exception.
rootless-e
They were journalists, first and foremost. Not just pretty faces that could read and smile at the same time.
You obviously never saw Len O'Connor, a local Chicago newscaster in the 60's, either.
Or Studs Terkel for that matter.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:41 pm | #
I saw Steely Dan live Monday night. Sadly, they did not play my eponymous anthem
Deacon Blues
Unpossible! Demand a refund at once!
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:41 pm | #
J Edgar had tape of MM sucking someone's cock.
Many think it was JFK.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:41 pm | #
Give me chocolate!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
Sounds to me like you deserve it.
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:42 pm | #
Chocolate? Anybody?
GWPDA
save me some for the banana pancakes tomorrow am, m'kay?
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 9:42 pm | #
I saw Steely Dan live Monday night. Sadly, they did not play my eponymous anthem
Deacon Blues | 08.09.08 - 9:39 pm | #
They got a name for the winners of the world.... I... I wanna name when I lose.... they call Alabama the Crimson Tide....... call me Deacon Blues..........
pigboy |
08.09.08 - 9:42 pm | #
I saw Steely Dan live Monday night. Sadly, they did not play my eponymous anthem
Deacon Blues
Did your nineteen-year-old date enjoy it?
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:42 pm | #
Not sacrifice every civilian within miles along with yourselves.
Oh, it was scarier than that. The Russians, who are far more sadistic to their own army than they ever were to their citizens, were basically using their worthless BMPs full of boot recruits as bait to get the Chechens, imperfectly hidden in Soviet era apartment complexes, to reveal position to air support and artillery which just lit the whole street up. War Nerd has the background to point out that one of several incontestable commands given from an early time to the oft-raped and beaten Russian conscript is, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, DO NOT LEAVE THE APC.
If I remember correctly, the Caucusus was an area that was giving Imperial Russia trouble throughout the 19th century.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 9:43 pm | #
ummn, not really. chet huntley and eric serveid and others were not too swift either. just selected for different cosmetic reasons.
Compared to today's airheads, they were friggin' polymaths.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Best line from a Carl Hiaasen novel:
"Ready, son? Let's go commit journalism."
Sounds vaguely incestuous.
A. Dumas, token black dood |
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08.09.08 - 9:43 pm | #
And most of it appears to be stupid 'leadership', including Russia antogonizing Georgia.
No, it really isn't that simple, and Georgia actually shares in a good part of the blame in this situation. Saakashvili, after he was elected, said that he was going to crack down on secessionist areas, despite the people in South Ossetia holding a referendum in 2006 which said they wanted to be independent of Georgia.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:31 pm |
Never said it was simple. Would have been more simple if cooler and more practical leadership had been in that are (never mind now) 20 years ago.
But you're heading into a situation where the breakaway republics will accept nothing less than independence, as opposed to a great deal of autonomy. And more blood will be shed for what?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Not sacrifice every civilian within miles along with yourselves.
It doesn't help that the breakaway areas are being encouraged by Russia.
Hippies are morally superior to Americans because they don't believe in borders or national identity. They want to live in Obama's post-America. Press one for suck my nutsac. Press two for Auslander, raus!
Toby Petzold |
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08.09.08 - 9:43 pm | #
If I remember correctly, the Caucusus was an area that was giving Imperial Russia trouble throughout the 19th century.
sekmet
Till they cut off all their Caucasus.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:44 pm | #
it was lust. and it shouldn't matter if he was fucking everything that could move.
i do agree he was risking "our" one last chance to right this nation.
but it shouldn't matter.
elizabeth may feel differently, but i bet her attitude is much more mature than most of america. not to mention those jackals we call the "media".
man, this eric dolphy guy is awesome.
charley |
08.09.08 - 9:44 pm | #
"The Noms" would be a great band name.
War On War Off |
08.09.08 - 9:44 pm | #
"Fox News has decided which story is worthy of more coverage. Today, host Gregg Jarrett interviewed PBS’s Bonnie Erbe. “We have these huge stories going on like the one you’re reporting in Georgia,” Erbe noted when asked about Edwards. Jarrett, however, completely ignored Erbe’s comment on Georgia and continued to talk about Edwards, offering praise for the National Enquirer:
JARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning. He claims he denied the affair because the reporting by the National Enquirer was “99 percent wrong.” Well, so far, they’ve been about 100 percent right. "
the crimson tied hasn't been doing all that great lately.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:45 pm | #
How does Georgia fit into Phophecy
D Crickets |
08.09.08 - 9:45 pm | #
Apparently, the motherfuckers are learnin' ht-fucking-ml
Le Jackel |
08.09.08 - 9:45 pm | #
The Russians, who are far more sadistic to their own army
which used to include Georgians, of course. My old backgammon buddy Georgetown George, the Georgian surgeon, skipped out for the States when it became clear the Red Army wanted to send him to Afghanistan.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 9:45 pm | #
it was lust. and it shouldn't matter if he was fucking everything that could move.
But people have a need to mock women! Come on!
masculine_monica_nyc |
08.09.08 - 9:45 pm | #
Excellent, NBC is bringing "Life" back this fall. That show has the best music of any show on TV. Show's good, too.
puppethead |
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08.09.08 - 9:46 pm | #
The whole are is a huge mishmash of linguistic and ethnic groups, there are over 15 languages spoken in the Caucasus region, probably lots of old wounds to nurture, just like in the Balkans.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:39 pm |
Being better versed on the Balkans, I can tell you most of those 'old' wounds are actually rather recent. Nationalism can be a nasty thing.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:46 pm | #
Commented at that Dolphy link:
JFEROLLA (5 months ago)...
It's been told Billy wrote this piece before his first encounter with Duke, coming from Philadelfia or Chicago, I don't remeber anymore. In a phone Duke said how what to do after arriving in NYC to meet him: "take the A train..." Billy wrote the tune during that trip and played it to Duke just when they met there. So this is the legend...
Every now and then I learn another legend.
-
QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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08.09.08 - 9:46 pm | #
Did your nineteen-year-old date enjoy it?
melior
Heh! Mrs Blues liked it.
Not many 19 year olds in the house, except for the ones with Miller Beer t-shirts and microminiskirt uniforms.
And Walter burned up a "Hey Nineteen" solo....
Deacon Blues |
08.09.08 - 9:46 pm | #
The Russians, who are far more sadistic to their own army than they ever were to their citizens,
k&y, nyarlathotep
A fine tradition in the Russian military. After all, Stalin had machine-gunners placed so as to discourage retreat.
I remember reading about conditions for boots in the Russian Army in Chechnya. Indescribable.
And the Chechnyans were, as you say, if anything, worse.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:46 pm | #
I'd kinda like to give Bonnie Erbe a thorough seeing to.
Toby Petzold |
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08.09.08 - 9:47 pm | #
JARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning.
"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not." - Ronnie Raygun
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:47 pm | #
A small, and entirely unimportant note. After some five years or so of horrible endocrinological issues, today I discovered that my BMI is finally, finally, back within the 'normal' range. This, along with several other indicators, tells me that I am not going to die to-morrow and indeed, am going to be all right, generally. I iz very pleased. Endocrinologists are very gud peoples.
Give me chocolate!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 08.09.08 - 9:38 pm
Yeah!
besides, I would hate for you to die on my birthday.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:47 pm | #
But you're heading into a situation where the breakaway republics will accept nothing less than independence, as opposed to a great deal of autonomy.
Yeah. That's why I said I thought this was going to be an area of conflict for quite some time.
I just think Georgia was stupid to expect that NATO was going to run to their rescue when their escalation didn't go so well.
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:47 pm | #
They didn't play "Haitian Divorce", either.
Deacon Blues
That's forgiveable. Even commendable, although it's not my least favorite song in the catalogue.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:47 pm | #
it was lust. and it shouldn't matter if he was fucking everything that could move.
ii do agree he was risking "our" one last chance to right this nation.
but it shouldn't matter.
elizabeth may feel differently, but i bet her attitude is much more mature than most of america. not to mention those jackals we call the "media".
charley | 08.09.08 - 9:44 pm |
I am with you on that, Charley.
Just can't figure out why it matters to "the polity" what politicians do sexually. Frnakly, it's probably the surplus testosterone that makes 'em ambitious enough to put up with the bullshit of running for office in the first place, so they're tortured by the stuff. Let 'em be. Who cares.
More Matter, Less Art |
08.09.08 - 9:48 pm | #
"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not." - Ronnie Raygun
he was such a fucking idiot.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:48 pm | #
They were journalists, first and foremost. Not just pretty faces that could read and smile at the same time.
You obviously never saw Len O'Connor, a local Chicago newscaster in the 60's, either.
Or Studs Terkel for that matter.
Adam Hominem | 08.09.08 - 9:41 pm | #
studs terkel is a typical newscaster from the 1960s?
gimme a break. the purpose of TV is to make money. the 1960s journalism relied on an aesthetic of authoritative white guys who fit the mold in terms of looking and sounding just as todays chippets do for a different fashion.
rootless-e |
08.09.08 - 9:48 pm | #
"I feel a special connection between us"
Gomez | 08.09.08 - 9:25 pm | #
, said Bush to Putin....
atablarasa |
08.09.08 - 9:48 pm | #
I remember seeing a story on French tv news in 2000 about a Russian soldier who was sold into slavery by his commander. The only reason he was freed was that his mother raised hell about it and got some media attention.
sekmet |
08.09.08 - 9:49 pm | #
Lincoln was a one term congressman who could not win the senate seat in his state.
ike |
08.09.08 - 9:49 pm | #
rootless: despite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man. also, JFK had many chippies of which she was only the most famous. and men can want to fuck women for 000s of different reasons, right?
k&y- you're not getting it. of course they are gay. you've worked in/been close to the business/Game, isn't that completely obvious to you at this point? it's not "turned gay," it's "threatened to out and shame before friends and family to whom a totally different persona has been constructed due to cowardice and laziness and an unwillingness to admit to themselves that gay sex can be open, healthy, natural and not perverted." politics and gay go together like peanut butter and chocolate. i'd guess 50-75% of the Village, and i mean the whole area and not just that franchise, is queer. i have a complicated theory about how smashing the Closet will end republican/winger power forever, but we'll speak of that later.
chicago dyke, one w/simels |
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08.09.08 - 9:49 pm | #
We used to think there were a lot of bad things in the American military, especially after that 20/20 story about the paratroop school that beat the shit out of their newbs and applied skin irritants to their genitals and so on, but the Russians rape their recruits. They force sexual intercourse onto their new people. That is pretty much unimaginable in the worst Virginian or Carolinian hole. Mark Ames' thesis that office and school rage killings come from faceless institutional abusers was helped along by the startling fact, from Ames' newspaper, that rage killings are so regular in the Russian army that they are not news and nobody questions why they happen. If word comes everyone feels bad for the poor boot who snapped.
k&y, nyarlathotep |
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08.09.08 - 9:50 pm | #
Buckeye:
Nationalism can be a nasty thing.
So can being a citizen of the world.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:48 pm
Once again, you have not a fucking clue what you're yammering about.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:50 pm | #
And Walter burned up a "Hey Nineteen" solo....
Deacon Blues
Walter is such a cool guitarist. Makes every damn note count and has that poker face with the twinkle in his eye. Love it.
Gromit, dirty hippie scientist |
08.09.08 - 9:50 pm | #
JARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning
Ketchup is a vegetable.
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:51 pm | #
I think it's a close call with the old fashioned Flubber.
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:52 pm | #
I see that I missed the Carl Hiassen discussion above. Most entertaining novelist on the planet, in my book.
Gromit, dirty hippie scientist |
08.09.08 - 9:52 pm | #
despite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man.
Buckeye, the squirrels here do that all the time. The cats are not much of a threat.
Is it your birthday today? Happy Birthday!
Today is my dad's birthday.
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Yeah. That's why I said I thought this was going to be an area of conflict for quite some time.
And many people predicted this. The end of the bipolar power relationship between the US and the USSR, and the beginnning of the multipolar global situation was an accident waiting to happen. It was touch and go and we doged a bullet in the Balkans and then George W. Bush got behind the wheel of the bus and tried to push the unipolar American hegemony. And here we are.
But somebody did predict it.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Lincoln's existence was providential. He was an American Christ. He rounded up newspaper editors and legislators and hanged pesky injuns. He was large; he contained multitudes.
Toby Petzold |
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08.09.08 - 9:52 pm | #
despite her public persona, marilyn was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man.
bob riley's skanky wife doing a PSA in the commercial break. yeeeagh.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 9:52 pm | #
JARRETT: You know, his excuse for lying is absolutely stunning
"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so." - Runnynose Bunnypants
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:53 pm | #
Lincoln was a one term congressman who could not win the senate seat in his state.
And see where that got us.
-
QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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08.09.08 - 9:53 pm | #
i'd guess 50-75% of the Village, and i mean the whole area and not just that franchise, is queer.
75% naturally?! The ones we met were perfectly submissive, "My Honor is My Loyalty" numbnuts who would go on to be ravenous fiddle-head fernasexuals if you told them they were and they thought it was part of political success.
I was just out to get beer...
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.09.08 - 9:53 pm | #
studs terkel is a typical newscaster from the 1960s?
gimme a break. the purpose of TV is to make money. the 1960s journalism relied on an aesthetic of authoritative white guys who fit the mold in terms of looking and sounding just as todays chippets do for a different fashion.
rootless-e
You don't get it.
It was journalism first, looks second. Quite the reverse of the situation today.
For a long time, the news divisions of the networks were even separate from the money-making divisions. They weren't expected to make money.
That's all.
There's a video produced by CBS as late as '68, called "The Selling of the Pentagon". And of course Murrow's "Harvest of Shame", which was earlier.
Can you imagine shit like that coming out of the networks now? They don't have the expertise, even if they wanted to, which they don't.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:53 pm | #
As stated above, the principle of indiscernibility of identicals - that if two objects are in fact one and the same, they have all the same properties - is mostly uncontroversial. However, one famous application of the indiscernibility of identicals was by René Descartes in his Meditations on First Philosophy. Descartes concluded that he could not doubt the existence of himself (the famous cogito ergo sum argument), but that he could doubt the existence of his body. From this he inferred that the person Descartes must not be identical to his body, since one possessed a characteristic that the other did not: namely, it could be known to exist.
max |
08.09.08 - 9:53 pm | #
rootless: despite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit,
she was at least as smart as jfk. i'm just objecting to the idea that previous generations of male politicians were so suave. they did seem to be smart enough to have affairs with women who did not want to talk to the press, though. so give 'em some points.
jfk wouldn't have gotten near monica or ms. astral projection because they were obviously both going to not keep things discrete.
rootless-e |
08.09.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Thank you pigboy
Deacon Blues | 08.09.08 - 9:54 pm | #
This, along with several other indicators, tells me that I am not going to die to-morrow and indeed, am going to be all right, generally. I iz very pleased. Endocrinologists are very gud peoples.
Give me chocolate!
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian
Gives GWPDA the entire bag of Dove chocolates as Ind goes into withdrawal.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Buckeye, the squirrels here do that all the time. The cats are not much of a threat.
Is it your birthday today? Happy Birthday!
Today is my dad's birthday.
Tlazolteotl | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Tomorrow.
Happy birthday to your dad!
I think Spike was amused, but if the squirrel pisses him off, I suspect it'll be all over.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:55 pm | #
I thought journalism worked on the same principle as LA street gangs. They don't let you in the club until you've done something or someone that can get you tossed.
A. Dumas, token black dood |
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08.09.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Tlazolteotl: Tobes, tell us again you're not a racist?
Really? Somebody predicted that Russia would lose the Cold War to beat the everloving peanut-rich horse shit out of us and leave us begging for a rest and a lemonade in the post-Cold War era? We would love to see that analysis.
"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so." - Runnynose Bunnypants
Just when was it that they asked for the phone companies to roll over? February of 2001 is what I heard, but I don't know if that was tin foil time or not...
atablarasa |
08.09.08 - 9:56 pm | #
despite her public person, marylin was reputed to be quite the wit, and she was at one time married to a very smart man.
She was, however, reputed to have asked Arthur Miller's mother what part of the fish the gefilte came from.
But even geniuses don't know everything.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:56 pm | #
noice. i like the new pornographers. more neko case pls.
Hugh |
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08.09.08 - 9:57 pm | #
You don't get it.
What a shock.
Sevaried, IIRC, was one of "Murrow's Boys" - a whole group of people hired by Murrow as writers for radio. They then moved into delivering what they wrote on the air, and later, did the same on television.
jfk wouldn't have gotten near monica or ms. astral projection because they were obviously both going to not keep things discrete.
rootless-e | 08.09.08 - 9:55 pm | #
otoh, he didn't need to be as discreet--the press mostly didn't report affairs etc. back then.
pretzelattack |
08.09.08 - 9:57 pm | #
But somebody did predict it.
Jeanne Dixon? Was it Jeanne Dixon? I knew it!
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 9:58 pm | #
He's lonely.
Please, won't someone talk to him?
How bout some more quotes from his favoritest genitalman and scholar?
"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a *part* of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a *part* of Europe." - DQ Danny
melior |
08.09.08 - 9:58 pm | #
rootless-e,
How old are you?
I have been watching TV since 1955.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 9:58 pm | #
I should have said: my cats aren't much of a threat.
Sos the squirrels have been acting with greater and greater impunity, not helped by the fact that we feed them.
Sorry, I'm a sucker for cute furry things.
Tlazolteotl |
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08.09.08 - 9:58 pm | #
Oh, and I'm still waiting for the list of Quayle's qualifications.....
35. citizen.
Don't wait on Petzold, he's stoned out of his mind.
theodoric of athens |
08.09.08 - 9:59 pm | #
porno s h e e t s
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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08.09.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Oh, and I'm still waiting for the list of Quayle's qualifications.....
Tlazolteotl
I knew Dan Quayle....
Gomez |
08.09.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Yeah. That's why I said I thought this was going to be an area of conflict for quite some time.
And many people predicted this. The end of the bipolar power relationship between the US and the USSR, and the beginnning of the multipolar global situation was an accident waiting to happen. It was touch and go and we doged a bullet in the Balkans and then George W. Bush got behind the wheel of the bus and tried to push the unipolar American hegemony. And here we are.
But somebody did predict it.
Clancy at the Bar | 08.09.08 - 9:52 pm
Back in the late 1980's I did a lot of reading on the USSR. And even then the Armenia/Azerbaijan conflict was underway. Without decent leadership, both in Moscow and in the provinces, you were going to have problems.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
08.09.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Adam Hominem
We still think you are naive: there was a very tightly controlled pseudo-Renaissance n that era to react to and control and contain the terrifying (to the establishment) simmering public uproar. If only there was a nerdhero named Chomksky who already explained years ago why Lippmann wasn't your friend...
k&y, nyarlathotep |
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08.09.08 - 10:00 pm | #
Jeanne Dixon? Was it Jeanne Dixon? I knew it!
Adam Hominem
Not Jeanne Dixon or Ronnie might have thought twice about ending the "Evil Empire". People in the IR community. My first reaction was: One down, one to go.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 10:00 pm | #
Steely Dan My Old School
That's the American Bandstand appearance I mentioned yesterday.
There's a video produced by CBS as late as '68, called "The Selling of the Pentagon".
In fairness, much of the research material for "The Selling of the Pentagon" came from William J. Fulbright's book, which was, in turn, based on information from his committee hearings.
However, CBS did have the balls at the time to broadcast it (actually, first in Feb., 1971), and it caused quite an uproar then.
And, yes, there's not much of that going on today. Reality shows are so much cheaper to produce. Research is expensive....
montag |
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08.09.08 - 10:00 pm | #
Calvin Trillin pointed out that J. Danforth Quayle was a perfect name for a Disney animated villain, perhaps an unscrupulous avian banker...
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 10:00 pm | #
I've never forgotten Len O'Connor, from my days as a kid in Chicago.
Fat old Irishman with an ill-fitting shirt and hair coming out of his ears, telling us the news.
You could tell he was an actual honest to God reporter.
Adam Hominem |
08.09.08 - 10:00 pm | #
gimme a break. the purpose of TV is to make money.
Prior to Reagan's elimination of the Fairness Doctrine news was done by TV networks to fulfill their "public service" requirements. It wasn't about making money until after the GOP decided to stop enforcing the contract for using public airwaves.
puppethead |
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08.09.08 - 10:00 pm | #
Upsy=daisy.
Le Jackel
god, remember when we were all so young and good looking?
Just when was it that they asked for the phone companies to roll over? February of 2001 is what I heard, but I don't know if that was tin foil time or not...
atablarasa
I've followed an awful lot of emptywheel and Grteenwald, and I don't believe it's known yet exactly. "State secrets" yaknow. Before 9/11 though.
I wouldn't be all that surprised if they started playing footsie as part of Pointdexter's Total Info Awareness.
melior |
08.09.08 - 10:02 pm | #
Just when was it that they asked for the phone companies to roll over? February of 2001 is what I heard, but I don't know if that was tin foil time or not...
Not tinfoil. That's the time period that Qwest opted out because its lawyers thought the legal foundation was crooked.
montag |
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08.09.08 - 10:02 pm | #
One down, one to go.
I was a silly little left-anarchist and antistatist back then. I'm still a left anarchist but a left pragmatist as well, like Chomsky.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 10:02 pm | #
Steely Dan My Old School
That's the American Bandstand appearance I mentioned yesterday.
Back in the late 1980's I did a lot of reading on the USSR. And even then the Armenia/Azerbaijan conflict was underway. Without decent leadership, both in Moscow and in the provinces, you were going to have problems.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coin
Conflict is ubiquitous. Some make the argument that it is even "healthy". I'd prefer to avoid violent conflict. It was less dangerous in Marx's time. Slow and steady, like the tortoise.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 10:06 pm | #
I was off to the left back then, and increasingly uneasy. Deeply regretted the black folk brandishing submachine guns and kicking the whites out of SNCC, and the SDS moving from the Port Huron statement and participatory democracy to Weathermen and PL Trotskyites. Thought the college had no business reporting grades to the draft board or contracting with the Institute for Defense Analysis, but wasn't sure about whether shutting down the college as an educational institution, however imperfect, was either intelligent or ethical.
Still not sure about a lot of that stuff.
ProfWombat |
08.09.08 - 10:07 pm | #
Man, I gotta give Fagan and "Skunk" Baxter credit - they didn't dog it one second while miming to that song in that clip.
Simels will give Skunk no credit. He's too tight with Kurt Weldon and Dana Rohrbacher.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 10:08 pm | #
good night and good luck
pigboy |
08.09.08 - 10:08 pm | #
Maybe it's a clone of Edwards' dead son with the offending appendage removed.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
tobytoby |
08.09.08 - 10:08 pm | #
Baxter is a defense consultant for the defense industry and Pentagon.
Clancy at the Bar |
08.09.08 - 10:09 pm | #
Baxter is a defense consultant for the defense industry and Pentagon.
Clancy is a foot-hold and enabling troll for the other trolls ... watch
Uncle lurker festers |
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