I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Joshua fit the battle of Jerico
On Fire?
check digby
Shock and Awe
Warsaw ghetto 2007
They are following the Israeli's lead
Robert Frost wrote that Good Fences Make Good Neighbors, but I don't think he had Baghdad or Berlin in mind...
Re-HICA, again, ditto...
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Definitely a sign that the surge is working.
Well, since everything that happens seems to be a sign that the surge is working.
I am wondering if anyone has replied to my comments five minutes ago ten threads below -- what drugs is the boss on?
General Petraeus, tear down this wall!
so like Northern Ireland?
"It's not a Wall, it's a Barrier of Respect!"
It's nice that they're building a spiffy, modern ghetto for the Sunni.
OT: THE French presidential election campaign has ended with the last opinion polls showing right-winger Nicolas Sarkozy ahead of Socialist Segolene Royal but the overall contest too close to call.
All 12 candidates made a final case to millions of undecided voters before today's first round of voting to choose two rivals for a run-off vote on May 6.
The official campaign ended at midnight French time on Friday. No more political rallies were allowed and opinion polls could not be published until voting ends tonight.
In the past five surveys published before the ban, Mr Sarkozy was credited with between 26.5 and 30 per cent of voter intentions. Ms Royal had between 22.5 and 25.5 per cent.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/
world...6697158081.html
I think that it should be muraled to resemble Joe Liebermans face; stretching out verrrrrry long.
I am wondering if anyone has replied to my comments five minutes ago ten threads below -- what drugs is the boss on?
Prior Aelred
Randi Rhodes was all over this question on her show yesterday, Prior.
Cookie - coke to you.
But I was thinking Kracow.
It's nice that they're building a spiffy, modern ghetto for the Sunni.
NTodd Kaczynski
Can a Final Solution be far behind?
how is building a wall between Shia and Sunni going to help?
Boom-boom
Ain't it great to be crazeee?
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Damn ye, wall!
will they be laying minefields as well? If your doing Berlin redux, don't forget the machine gun towers, guard dogs, and land mines.
"It's not a Wall, it's a Barrier of Respect!"
Respect mah authoraTAY!
A senior Sunni politician has condemned a US military project to build a concrete wall around a Sunni enclave in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad.
US forces say the wall, which will separate Adhamiya from nearby Shia districts, aims to prevent sectarian violence between the two communities.
But Adnan al-Dulaimi, who heads the biggest Sunni bloc in parliament, says it will breed yet more strife.
Some Adhamiya residents have said the wall will make their district a prison.
Adhamiya lies on the mainly Shia Muslim east bank of the Tigris river and violence regularly flares between the enclave and nearby Shia areas.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
6579335.stm
will they be laying minefields as well? If your doing Berlin redux, don't forget the machine gun towers, guard dogs, and land mines.
General Zod
Nothing says peace and reconciliation like machine gun towers, guard dogs and land mines.
♪ ... I want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy
Snaggy, shaggy, ratty, matty
Oily, greasy, fleecy
Shining, gleaming, streaming
Flaxen, waxen
Knotted, polka-dotted
Twisted, beaded, braided
Powdered, flowered, and confettied
Bangled, tangled, spangled, and spaghettied!
Oh say can you see
My eyes if you can
Then my hair's too short
Down to here
Down to there
Down to where
It stops by itself... ♪
Moonbootica (Hi!) -
True dat, but the peacekeepers to insurgents ration was much better in NI - maybe like by a factor of ten -- & the way out looks to be negotiations -- whoda thunk it?
We had to free them before we could wall them in.
Brilliant.
Just fucking brilliant...
He only says, 'Good fences make good neighbors'.
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
'Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows?
But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
Everyday it seems more and more like we're all trapped in the Twilight Zone
I think every small town should have a machine-gun tower. A place for citizens to rally in times of trouble.
Because nothing says "freedom" like a hulking concrete wall.
segregation and isolation is not the way to get people living and working together peacefuly.
you'd think someone would realize that by now.
Everyday it seems more and more like we're all trapped in the Twilight Zone
noblejoanie
Not true at all!
Some days it's the Twilight Zone; some days it's Bizarro World.
“Something there is that doesn’t love a wall.” 
Vicki, I hope you aren't teaching any nephews how to say asshole.
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 11:36 am | #
yes, I was not too surprised that Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley decided to cut a deal, because both know if devolution is taken away they lose their cushy privileges like chauffeured cars, plus their hangers on would lose perks, so I bet the pressure came from them.
they both need each other basically
DWD--Thank you for posting the poem bits. "Something there is that doesn't love a wall." I was too glib.
DWD, have a sparkling beverage. 
Elvis: "In the Ghetto"
Prior - I am replying now. Yes, I am in PA, and a huge red pine is staring me in the face as I type this. Slight breeze, Spring is in the air.
they both need each other basically
Moonbootica, Jog On!
Like our neocons and Al Qaeda.
The US military is building a three-mile concrete wall in the centre of Baghdad along the most murderous faultline between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
The wall, which recognises the reality of the hardening sectarian divide in Baghdad, is a central part of George Bush's final push to pacify the capital. Work began on April 10 under cover of darkness and is due for completion by the end of the month.
The highly symbolic wall has evoked comparisons to the barriers dividing Protestants and Catholics in Belfast and Israelis and Palestinians along the length of the West Bank.
Captain Scott McLearn, who is based at Camp Victory, the US base on the outskirts of Baghdad, said Shias "are coming in and hitting Sunnis, and Sunnis are retaliating across the street".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/
S...2062426,00.html
LIttle Brother--I owe you and DWD both.
I'm sure everyone by now has mentioned the Maginot Line, SDI, etc.
So cokes for all.
senior Sunni politician has condemned a US military project to build a concrete wall around a Sunni enclave in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad.
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I don't want my fucking tax money to go to anymore of Bushco SHIT.
Listen up DEMs.
Get us out.
I think every small town should have a machine-gun tower. A place for citizens to rally in times of trouble.
I thought that's what the old well was for...
We have an walled in enclave like that nearby. We call it Graterford State Prison.
I think every small town should have a machine-gun tower. A place for citizens to rally in times of trouble.
I thought that's what the old well was for...
Zap Rowsdower
Yeah, but that only works when an adorable white child falls down it.
Vicki, I hope you aren't teaching any nephews how to say asshole.
ErinPDX
When my niece was two or three years old, she had this toy set of garden tools. My sister was very upset when she walked out and heard me saying, as I held one of them up, "can you say, ain't nuthin' but a hoe?"
Let's not forget the Great Wall
We had to free them before we could wall them in.
General Zod | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 11:36 am | #
General Zod, I like the cut of your jib...may I subscribe to your newsletter?
you know a great way to solve terrorist problems is to like improve the quality of life
if you make sure they have enough food, water, peace and prosperity, its very simple.
Boom-boom
Ain't it great to be crazeee?
My mother used to sing that at the top of her lungs just to drive her kids nuts.
I love myself
I love me so
I took myself
To the picture show
I put my arm
Around my waist
I got so fresh
I slapped my face
Boom boom...
Somehow, this reminds me of the sarcophagus at Chernobyl...
Apartheid for Iraq! What a brilliant solution!
I told you those Israelis were good for something!
They shall be as free as birds in a concrete-and-barbed-wire cage!
General Zod is generally an asshole. Just sayin'.
I think every small town should have a machine-gun tower. A place for citizens to rally in times of trouble.
Mike
oy
in Northern Ireland there was this graveyard which had a wall underground to seperate the Catholic and Protestant dead.
mad!
And the wall along our border with Mexico.
I guess living in gated communities does this to a person...
you know a great way to solve terrorist problems is to like improve the quality of life
if you make sure they have enough food, water, peace and prosperity, its very simple.
Moonbootica, Jog On!
Be prepared to be castigated as a soft-on-terrorism commie bleeding-heart with your head in the clouds who doesn't know how to function in the real world.
Which translates as: You've got it exactly right, but we'll never admit it.
Hellkitty
If I wrote one, you would be one the list.
Well, presumably this wall won't be used the same way the Israelis are using theirs -- as a tool of expropriation and economic oppession, but it still won't do a damned bit of good in the end. Both sides apparently have enough explosive ordnance available to them at this point to destroy it ten times over.
I don't want my fucking tax money to go to anymore of Bushco SHIT.
War tax resistance.
Yeah, but that only works when an adorable white child falls down it.
Gummo | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 11:40 am | #
that's the problem with iraq.
not enough adorable white children.
I wonder how much the contractor is charging to build this wall?
Izzy - the last liberal and my neighbor and I were visiting yesterday: she was hot. NPR had the story of the soldier who had been given 10% disability and no further health insurance for his TERRIBLE war injury (The man had to wear a plastic helmet cause most of his skull is gone) who had a seizure and ended up in the hospital with a $10,000 bill.
She asked me what we could do, I said, "Burning the motherfuckers out, sounds good to me." She asked, "When?"
Exactly.
why not seal them all up in a tomb?
*cough*sshhh*cough*, 'kay?
watertige
there really are no secrets on the intertubes.
Vicki
I guess that's where the General part comes in. And so, not to bother you, one of the perfect people, I will say bye bye.
General Zod is generally an asshole. Just sayin'.
Now, now, let's not pick fights. He's being cool right now, so we should be happy and supportive.
jeez this is a barmy idea, who the fuck is running his 'war'?
Moonbootica -
Two sides of the same coin (Bush/Bin Ladin = "clash of civilizations") -- moderation can happen (the evangelicals are trying to stir up religious wars in the C of E but nobody gives a shit -- unlike 1640)
Vicki -- I am in NJ - but right by the Delaware River - opposite side of PA -- how's it goin', eh?
I wonder how much the contractor is charging to build this wall?
I'm sure if I type it out, the zeros will cause Hell-O-Scan to do something strange.
Warsaw ghetto 2007
Don't forget Poland!
"Construction began without the neighborhood council's approval?"
Sounds like a regular day in NYC.
General Zod is generally an asshole. Just sayin'.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 04.21.07 - 11:41 am | #
I'm not here much anymore to really know.
Isn't it interesting how Bush set out to be an isolationist president, but instead got us into a war, and now they plan to build a wall to isolate? Talk about full circle.
This is so stupid =- they just now discovered we're building walls? We've built concrete walls all over Iraq already.
They've been putting up big ass concrete walls for the whole fucking 4 years.
Republic hate-bot Marsha Blackburn of TN is, unsurprisingly, a hard-core supporter of punitive measures on immigration. My stars, I detest that
woman!
Collective punishment? I thought that has always been official US policy?
jeez this is a barmy idea, who the fuck is running his 'war'?
The same guys who found, then lost, all of Saddam's nukes.
/instadumbass
Stop bitching about the wall. Bechtel will paint it a really pretty shade of gray for only $5 billion.
I wonder how much the contractor is charging to build this wall?
noblejoanie | 04.21.07 - 11:42 am | #
cost + $1M per foot
I think every small town should have a machine-gun tower. A place for citizens to rally in times of trouble.
time was, there was a machine-gun tower guarding the one road into Los Alamos, NM...the tower stood at the entrance/exit to the town until the early 70s, even though the machine gun had been pulled some years earlier...
there was a restaurant outside the gate that sold really good, greasy green chile cheese burgers and yummy milkshakes...
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Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin
Checkpoint? in Baghdad
Republic hate-bot Marsha Blackburn of TN is, unsurprisingly, a hard-core supporter of punitive measures on immigration. My stars, I detest that
woman!
plantsman,
Naw, embrace teh Repugs Stupid - they are killing the party forever.
Now, now, let's not pick fights. He's being cool right now, so we should be happy and supportive.
Yeppers.
I've gotten the same treatment as Zod got that made the boy flip.
Can't say as I blamed him.
Well, presumably this wall won't be used the same way the Israelis are using theirs -- as a tool of expropriation and economic oppession
Better yet, it'll be used as a tool for genocide!
(But only as an unforeseen consequence, of course.)
Hellkitty - just curious, why did you ask when I was with Harcourt?
Three years ago I read that concrete was the biggest growth industry in the war zone because we have literally covered the country with big ass concrete walls.
And now they figured it out? O come on -
um, what exactly is wrong with a temporary wall to try and reduce the car bombs? They've tried everything else and it hasn't worked. This seems like it might work to some extent, without killing or detaining large numbers of young Sunni men.
Now, now, let's not pick fights.
Okay. Just calls 'em as I sees 'em.
I'm in a very blunt mood this weekend.
The guy who named Checkpoint Charlie was the head of the University of Oregon's ROTC department in 1976.
BTW, it was the third checkpoint in a series, but happened to be the main one. Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, etc.
I'm in a very blunt mood this weekend.
Heh-heh. She said "blunt." heh.
recently the Berlin government removed a bit of the Berlin wall in the dead of night
Walls can be short term expedients - generally not viable long term solutions -- but the army has known all along that it never had sufficient force for an occupation (just that all the honest generals were fired)
Stage one of all of this administration's plans, "First, we fire all the competent, honest people!"
(However, I would support building a wall between Master Atrios and his keyboard this morning.)
um, what exactly is wrong with a temporary wall to try and reduce the car bombs? They've tried everything else and it hasn't worked. This seems like it might work to some extent, without killing or detaining large numbers of young Sunni men.
roublen
1. How come you assume it's temporary?
2. Whatever happened to Repugs who stood behind Reagan when he called for the Berlin Wall to come down?
3. Walls have worked so damn well in Palestine.
I seem to remember a time when Zod was making lots of "You shall obey me!"-type posts that were obviously in jest, but was responded to as if he were serious. I don't recall reading him say anything truly egregious in a serious way, but then I've been gone for a while.
Hellkitty - just curious, why did you ask when I was with Harcourt?
Jennifer | 04.21.07 - 11:45 am | #
I have a friend who was with them in San Antonio until recently.
um, what exactly is wrong with a temporary wall to try and reduce the car bombs? They've tried everything else and it hasn't worked. This seems like it might work to some extent, without killing or detaining large numbers of young Sunni men.
It will become a magnet for car bombs.
I doubt they can build the wall thick enough to withstand the blasts.
Molly, I see you're in NYC today. Will you be around tom'w or are you heading back to Lib Mtn?
I recommend putting up a wall around K-Lo.
the wall is a sign of the failure of the Bush Junta to deal with post-invasion Iraq
I recommend putting up a wall around K-Lo.
Bigger than The Great Wall of China. Quite an undertaking.
I have a friend who was with them in San Antonio until recently.
Hellkitty
Offer your friend my condolences. For however much time she was with them.
It will become a magnet for car bombs.
word. That it will surely become.
Oh, if I could just switch to selling ladders in Baghdad instead....
the wall is a sign of the failure of the Bush Junta to deal with post-invasion Iraq
Moonbootica
I was convinced four years ago of the failure. This is just piling on.
DWD : She asked me what we could do, I said, "Burning the motherfuckers out, sounds good to me." She asked, "When?"
Exactly.
Given that the Bushists have shaken off scandals that would have destroyed a dozen admins, the coming blowback is going to be awesome.
That's "awesome" as in "wrath of God".
the wall is a sign of the failure of the Bush Junta to deal with post-invasion Iraq
Moonbootica
How goddamn simple minded is this bullshit? For the love of god - it's nothing but an admission that the whole thing is a failure.
He can't come up with anything better than a wall? The ancient fucking Chinese built a wall - we haven't gotten any further along than walls?
the wall is a sign of the failure of the Bush Junta to deal with post-invasion Iraq
Moonbootica, Jog On! | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 11:49 am | #
that is exactly what I said when I heard about this on the news last night. Walls are an admission of failure.
Just wait for those daily checkpoint bombings.
Thursday at 7:00 PM: First Democratic Party Debate at MSRNC.
wall gets built and suddenly spades and trowels are sold out.
Another project of InstaGhetto Corporation! Come to us for all your population sequestration needs...
is this atrios normal pacing for saturday mornings?
Haloscan is hatin on me big time today.
Feh.
Offer your friend my condolences. For however much time she was with them.
Jennifer | 04.21.07 - 11:50 am | #
He's doing well now, working for the same company that I do.
Hey, it's just another gated community.
Baghdad's going yuppie!
Upward mobility, bitches!!!!
Hungree. Biscuits. Gravy.
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Hey, it's just another gated community.
Baghdad's going yuppie!
Upward mobility, bitches!!!!
steve simels
Yes, we should envy them.
Lucky duckies!
so how will the nutty wingnutosphere square this one?
Remember the Bush policy now is simply to buy time to make it to January 2009 with the current status quo. The wall will help achieve that.
Then it becomes some other sucker's problem.
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ccokzblog: Gonzalez must have a strange opinion about order
is this atrios normal pacing for saturday mornings?
He's still celebrating Meth Awareness Day.
is this atrios normal pacing for saturday mornings?
Normal for any day the crack shipment arrives.
If General Zod is still here, please bear in mind that on his blog he rants about how everybody here is a loser and you'd have to be an idiot to post here.
is this atrios normal pacing for saturday mornings?
Normal for any day the crack shipment arrives.
NTodd Kaczynsk
I kind of wish he'd get unnormal.
Vicki, this OT but I have to leave to do Saturday stuff and I promised Echidne I would ask.
She has a friend (a pianist) who was burned terribly on her hands. Her rehabilitation hospital has told her that they can do no more for her. Her insurance company is still willing to pay for more rehab but she is unsure where to go. I was telling her that GR used to be a place famous for hand rehab because of Dr Swanson. If you know of any info about this, can you forward it to either me or Echidne? I would appreciate it.
sry bad link
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com
See my earlier comments on tactical (rather than strategic) walls -- just a tool -- but Tena is right - we've had them around & through the Green Zone all along -- anyone in the MSM compare us building walls in Baghdad to the Commies building a wall in Berlin?
I didn't think so.
If General Zod is still here, please bear in mind that on his blog he rants about how everybody here is a loser and you'd have to be an idiot to post here.
Thank you. He also focuses on certain posters here and stalks them with negative comments about his negative, inaccurate perceptions of their lives.
anyone in the MSM compare us building walls in Baghdad to the Commies building a wall in Berlin?
I didn't think so.
Prior Aelred
It's gotten to be his answer to every single intractable problem - immigration: build a wall. The Iraq War - build a wall.
Jesus!
walls also have a psychological effect, how are the Sunni residents going to feel having a great big fucking wall on their doorstep?
Thank you. He also focuses on certain posters here and stalks them with negative comments about his negative, inaccurate perceptions of their lives.
Vicki,
As far as I'm concerned, he's very trollish.
is this atrios normal pacing for saturday mornings?
Damn, but he's in a foul mood this morning.
Tena - correction: this is an innovation on his part. His previous answer to every intractable problem was tax cuts for rich people.
steve simels -
It's not you -- HaloScan hates everybody!
Does General Zod admits he posts here? (I not givin' him hits - hell, I can't keep up here!)
is this atrios normal pacing for saturday mornings?
Damn, but he's in a foul mood this morning.
Meander
Yeah he is.
As far as I'm concerned, he's very trollish.
Tena
That only occurred after he got the treatment.
Damn, but he's in a foul mood this morning.
Meander | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 11:56 am | #
cats ate his homework
DWD,
GR has a fabulous burn clinic. However, when I return to work on Monday (we are a multi-speciality group), I will ask about this specifically.
Wish I could help right now, but I just don't have access.
But yes, I will see what I can find out.
Tena - correction: this is an innovation on his part. His previous answer to every intractable problem was tax cuts for rich people.
Jennifer
True, but not everyone is rich, so he has a 2-prong approach - tax cuts and wall-in the poor to shut them up.
It's gotten to be his answer to every single intractable problem - immigration: build a wall. The Iraq War - build a wall.
He's also tried to build a wall of secrecy around everything that goes on in this administration. Fortunately, the Democrats are chipping away at that now. Bring on the sledgehammers!
GR has a fabulous burn clinic. However, when I return to work on Monday (we are a multi-speciality group), I will ask about this specifically.
We've got the Scottish Rite burn center here in Dallas - and it's renowned. Has the pianist looked into it at all?
Tena - oh yes! I see the symbiosis there.
They should build a really high quality wall, long enough and wide enough to see from space like the Great Wall of China.
That way they can increase tourism.
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Tena --
Bush shares the common Republican gated community mentality (you know that there are now more people in the private security forces in this country than all the state, county & city police forces combined -- SHEESH!)
True, but not everyone is rich, so he has a 2-prong approach - tax cuts and wall-in the poor to shut them up. Tena
They've made extensive study of the Brazilian system
walls also have a psychological effect, how are the Sunni residents going to feel having a great big fucking wall on their doorstep?
Moonbootica, Jog On
In Baghdad I imagine just about everyone's brains are fried. The wall is just one more thing.
btw iirc Saddam didn't need a wall to control violence.
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That only occurred after he got the treatment.
billy b
Untrue. It's happened repeatedly. He hasn't always been Gen Zod, you know.
• As far as the Zod thing goes: without sifting through archives, my unimproved memory is that there is, or was, a normal Zod and a psycho-bitch slasher Zod.
Lightly skipping over the caldera of defining "normal" for Atriots, I mean that the General was convivial until a while back when someone posting with that nym erupted into the tiresome monster classified above.
Just another chore for my scroll-wheel finger. But, not being tempted by the sudoku of attempted forensic analysis of who's really who, I couldn't tell if this was the true Zod going bonkers or a nymstealer. So I perforce react on a case-by-case basis.
• I forbear to scorn the gentle devil's advocacy expressed by roublen, except to affably say, "Don't be such a Kevin Drum!"
If Atrios is in a foul mood today - and if it is media related - I totally and completely get it.
I've had it with Pravda in the US.
walls also have a psychological effect, how are the Sunni residents going to feel having a great big fucking wall on their doorstep?
there's a whole population of folks, just a few states north and northwest of Iraq, who can tell you about the dehumanizing effect of ghetto walls. as I said, collective punishment has long been official US policy.
Given that the Bushists have shaken off scandals that would have destroyed a dozen admins, the coming blowback is going to be awesome.
That's "awesome" as in "wrath of God".
Meander
Mebbe so, mebbe no. This night be one of those "Not with a bang, but with a whimper" situations. The media'll probably see more money--and less embarrassment--in the whimper.
I'm for the bang, myself...
Saw "Fracture," yesterday.
Cleverly written thriller, Anthony Hopkins has a ball. Gosling keeps up with him, although I wish somebody would explain to me his sex appeal, which I totally don't get.
He's like a grunge Edward Norton. Feh.
Also saw "Hot Fuzz," which is absolutely hilarious. Terrific satire of action movie cliches. The chase scene where the lead cop goes after a shoplifter is one of many brilliant set pieces.
Also features the first appearance in a million years (I think) by the actor who played the suave villain in "Raiders of the Lost Ark." Still looks pretty much the same....
Untrue. It's happened repeatedly. He hasn't always been Gen Zod, you know
Well, that's the way I remember it.
Not that important anyway.
btw iirc Saddam didn't need a wall to control violence.
No, he had virtual walls: massive security apparatus, terror, etc. Let's not go there...
Not that important anyway.
billy b
No and yes.
I don't care as long as he isn't stalking me - and he hasn't in awhile.
• I forbear to scorn the gentle devil's advocacy expressed by roublen, except to affably say, "Don't be such a Kevin Drum!"
well, for a raving neoliberal who wants us to win the GWOT, roublen doesn't seem as nuts as he might. his blog does quote approvingly some of the "great lights" of Western Phallologocentrism.
No, he had virtual walls: massive security apparatus, terror, etc. Let's not go there...
NTodd Kaczynski
We're there already in Iraq, and approaching it slowly but steadily here in the US.
But the Bush cabal can't even do terror competently and have only multiplied the chaos.
massive security apparatus,
Bigger than the US Department of Defense?
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Lightly skipping over the caldera of defining "normal" for Atriots, I mean that the General was convivial until a while back when someone posting with that nym erupted into the tiresome monster classified above.
Just another chore for my scroll-wheel finger. But, not being tempted by the sudoku of attempted forensic analysis of who's really who, I couldn't tell if this was the true Zod going bonkers or a nymstealer. So I perforce react on a case-by-case basis.
To my knowledge, he never denied it was all him. Once he yelled at me for pointing out that periodically he would melt down and start attacking people. He would state that he would post under various nyms, try to get people going, then attack, but as long as he was being civil in one of his incarnations he should be treated respectfully. Since then I ignore him.
and approaching it slowly but steadily here in the US.
I think we were - but not anymore. We have Congress between us and the executive now and while we may not see that all the time, I can feel it these days.
There's another layer between us and the goddamn Fascist Junta.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore : If Atrios is in a foul mood today - and if it is media related - I totally and completely get it.
I've had it with Pravda in the US.
Word that. People often forget that Eschaton is a media blog, first, then a politics blog, and this has been an ugly, ugly media week.
What is this "Zod" entity that y'all have been discussing?
I don't care as long as he isn't stalking me - and he hasn't in awhile.
For awhile, he was showing up when the sex troll was stalking me. So I'm suspicious.
But as far as I'm concerned, and you know this is true about me, Tena, regardless of what someone here thinks about me, I'll live me life in the manner I see fit: bohemian, happy, and unapologetic.
Interesting about Gomez, as I've learned over the months, he is so much more routine and disciplined than am I. Hippie vs. suit.
We're there already in Iraq...
I meant in terms of rhetoric.
and approaching it slowly but steadily here in the US.
much more so in Britain
Tena --
Bush shares the common Republican gated community mentality (you know that there are now more people in the private security forces in this country than all the state, county & city police forces combined -- SHEESH!)
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 11:59 am
can private, warlord armies be far behind?
"Negro, bahs!"
"Kill it, boy!"
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Word that. People often forget that Eschaton is a media blog, first, then a politics blog, and this has been an ugly, ugly media week.
This has been one of the most hideous media weeks since Schiavo.
Okay, taking a break.
Dig you all later...
If General Zod is still here, please bear in mind that on his blog he rants about how everybody here is a loser and you'd have to be an idiot to post here.
steve simels
Well, I went to his blog and searched backwards until I found a post about Eschaton, and I must say that it is by and large extremely disparaging and unfair, although there is a certain small grain of truth to it. I'd say he's more of a histrionic princess than a troll, though. But then, I haven't seen the alleged insult/stalking comments that were posted here.
Interesting about Gomez, as I've learned over the months, he is so much more routine and disciplined than am I. Hippie vs. suit.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore
You and really were separated at birth, Vicki. That kind of arrangement can work well - that's what I have. I have no discipline to speak of. Mr. Tena has oodles. Thank the gods!
It was such a bad media week that even Bill Maher mentioned it.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall.
Well, the wall worked in Israel with the Palestinians.....
/war loving winger morons
Tena --
I sincerely hope you're right. I do love your optimism.
These days, I find myself veering crazily between agreeing with WGG and agreeing with you. 
massive security apparatus,
Bigger than the US Department of Defense?
Apples and oranges. Internal security. And yes, Saddam had more of that in his country than we have in Iraq.
Got some Hot Fuzz action last night - very funny. It's no Shaun of the Dead, but it's a pretty good Point Break. I think it was a little meta for the late-night 4/20 college crowd, but they seemed to think it was funny. They were giggling beforehand though too. I seemed to be the only one who laughed out loud at "Forget it, Nick - it's Sanford."
HaloScan keeps eating my posts!
Outta here!
what keeps happening with the yellow bar? sometimes its there with new comments and other times not? Is this the ghost of haloscan?
Atrios : Right wing bloggers are the stupidest fucking people on the face on the Earth.
A sentence that belongs right under the masthead.
WG'sGuitar : can private, warlord armies be far behind?
Not far at all. About the time the "contractors" come back from Iraq needing steady income.
although there is a certain small grain of truth to it.
Hell, you can find a small grain of truth in anything if you look hard enough.
By and large, I thought it was an angry screed inspired by loneliness and unhappiness. And jealousy.
i love Hot Fuzz, Simon Pegg and Edgard Wright are geniuses!
Jog On!
Heading out for a walk, either in Prospect Park or Green-Wood Cemetary.
Hope it's just as fine where you are, and enjoy!
Guns + Educational Institutions = Media Feeding Frenzy
Well, I went to his blog and searched backwards until I found a post about Eschaton, and I must say that it is by and large extremely disparaging and unfair, although there is a certain small grain of truth to it. I'd say he's more of a histrionic princess than a troll, though. But then, I haven't seen the alleged insult/stalking comments that were posted here.
blerb
If you are talking about the cliquishness -or if he was - I do not see how that can be avoided in a community that has been talking to each other for at least 4 years in a lot of cases. Someone has trouble breaking in - I'm sorry. I try to encourage lurkers I hear from occasionally to jump in - you just have to take the plunge! If you are going to buck the entire community, however, you can expect resistance.
what keeps happening with the yellow bar?
It requires blood sacrifice to function. FEED ME, SEYMOUR!
i did not find it hard posting here and i've never noticed a clique
Marty Peretz stands up for his fellow neocon, Wolfie the Corrupt Wizard:
I've had a feeling all along that Wolfowitz's new troubles were hatched by his political enemies in the World Bank because he has been trying to make it more effective, more honest, and less politicized. These are complicated matters, and he has addressed them clinically with the intention to get results and not only install new procedures. You can imagine how a bloated and pampered bureaucracy would resent a truly practical person who makes practical judgments being at its head. The resentment of him within the Bank also derives from his role in the Iraq war.
Out to the Houston International Festival. Love you all.
Hippie vs. suit. Vicki
I smell a sitcom. Dharma and Gomez.
He would state that he would post under various nyms, try to get people going, then attack, but as long as he was being civil in one of his incarnations he should be treated respectfully. Since then I ignore him.
Funny, if that's true then there's a fair bit of hypocrisy in the post of his I read. He stated there that he was unfairly accused of posting under multiple nyms when he disagreed with the "group" opinion about the Israel-Hezbollah war. That's kind of a bad example of Atriot group-think, too, if you ask me, because I was heavily involved in that discussion, and IIRC there was no real consensus about the issue.
FEED ME, SEYMOUR!
Now, now -- you'll make plantsman nervous.
i did not find it hard posting here and i've never noticed a clique
Moonbootica, Jog On!
It's not that hard, unless someone just wants to make it that hard. You were sincere - and that's all the difference.
mrs. ibrahim - please post a link. I feel the need to email Marty again.
It requires blood sacrifice to function. FEED ME, SEYMOUR!
NTodd Kaczynski | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:10 pm | #
quiche or chocolate. you haves your choice.
i did not find it hard posting here and i've never noticed a clique Moonbootica
Pfft. That's only because you're reasonable, smart, funny, and for some reason don't have a massive chip on your shoulder about something.
And if the lenders do forgive the debt, the Internal Revenue Service will consider it taxable income.
Sorry--from many threads ago--but as far as I know, the IRS has always taxed debt forgiveness, as they should: Otherwise every business transaction would turn into a loan-with-forgiveness. Loaning somebody money they don't have to pay back is the same as giving them money. In fact I think the forgiver of the loan is required to file a 1099-MISC for it.
If you are talking about the cliquishness -or if he was - I do not see how that can be avoided in a community that has been talking to each other for at least 4 years in a lot of cases.
Indeed. We've got inside jokes, we've got private language, we've met each other in many cases, etc. Oh well. Lurk and learn, then engage. Otherwise, fuck off.
Tena,
If you see Echidne before I do, bring the Scottish clinic up. If not, I will tell her to contact you, okay? She is just trying to help a friend who is troubled. Thanks. (I also have some other things I am working on with my friends the piano freaks in the UK)
Now, now -- you'll make plantsman nervous.
I always make him nervous.
Pfft. That's only because you're reasonable, smart, funny, and for some reason don't have a massive chip on your shoulder about something.
JeffCO
There's the key right there - Moon doesn't have dirt on her shoulders.
She ain't a pimp.
IIRC there was no real consensus about the issue.
You will find more consensus over the relative suckitude of Macs.
Lurk and learn, then engage. Otherwise, fuck off.
I've had it with Pravda in the US.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Anyone who is capable of thinking for themselves has had it with them.
Whores, one and all!
Sorry--from many threads ago--but as far as I know, the IRS has always taxed debt forgiveness, as they should: Otherwise every business transaction would turn into a loan-with-forgiveness. Loaning somebody money they don't have to pay back is the same as giving them money. In fact I think the forgiver of the loan is required to file a 1099-MISC for it.
Dr. Wu
Yes. Between Res Ipsa, GWPDA and Mr. Tena, that got worked out.
The tiny Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan is taking a big step to end 100 years of monarchy by staging a mock election.
The idea is to familiarise the people of this isolated nation with the concept of parliamentary democracy before next year's national election.
In 1998 the king gave up absolute power and in 2006 he abdicated to his son.
But many still hold much affection for the former king, who once said that Bhutan's priority was not its GDP but its gross national happiness.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south...sia/
6578421.stm
Oh, fuck me, haloscan.
Time for my trip to the day spa while the suit goes to work.
Peace.
Funny. I think I started commenting here within a few days of my first visit to the site...it might have even been on the first day.
later, 'bats. Keep 'em flyin'
i did not find it hard posting here and i've never noticed a clique
Moonbootica, Jog On! | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:10 pm | #
when I first came here I didn't know what the etiquette was for posting. I wrote Atrios a note to ask what the protocol was. He said, "Just jump right in". You did the same thing, and if you can hold your own (which you do incredibly well) then there isn't an issue of fitting in.
Indeed. We've got inside jokes, we've got private language, we've met each other in many cases, etc.
don't forget the secret handshake, the decoder ring, and the credit union...'
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DWD - I'll tell Echidne. If I don't see her, I"ll leave a message on her blog.
Indeed. We've got inside jokes, we've got private language, we've met each other in many cases, etc. Oh well. Lurk and learn, then engage. Otherwise, fuck off.
NTodd
I got an email 3 days ago from a lurker - she said she lurks all the time - and I told her jump in - we love new people and we do - if they aren't assholes about the community.
Group members have a difficult time seeing themselves as others see them -- like Atrios' post the other day on this perpetual shortcoming in American foreign policy.
Maybe it's just the nature of the beast and takes constant vigilance to overcome.
.
Indeed. We've got inside jokes, we've got private language, we've met each other in many cases, etc. Oh well. Lurk and learn, then engage. Otherwise, fuck off. NTodd
That is so easy coming from a guy who doesn't have a blog. Why don't you meet me behind the Tastee Freez, by which I mean, again?
Funny. I think I started commenting here within a few days of my first visit to the site...it might have even been on the first day.
As I've noted before, I lurked for months, until somebody mentioned masturbation.
I'm not joking.
I think I lurked for more than a year. I still do mostly. I'm shy.
i've been posting regularly here just over 2 years, lurked for a lot longer.
i started with Friday Cat Blogging and got into it from there
Funny. I think I started commenting here within a few days of my first visit to the site...it might have even been on the first day.
Jennifer
I read the blogs without opening comments for about 2 weeks. Then I read comments for another 2 weeks before I started posting. Posting was a little scary at first - I got flamed immediately. But here I am, 4 years later, thicker skinned, meaner, and happier.
DELETE JEFFCO'S ACCOUNT!
As I've noted before, I lurked for months, until somebody mentioned masturbation.
I'm not joking.
Oh, great, he's created another Norman loop.
we have a secret dance too and an anthem.
and a flag and uniform.
don't forget the secret handshake, the decoder ring, and the credit union...'
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WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:16 pm | #
the pizza joint discounts and fruit exchange....
Have a great time out there Vicki.
I'm heading up the Gorge to uncle's funeral. This black vein of the irish catholic family is having the funeral at the eagles club.
I've found you can be dead bang opposite the whole rest of the community on a subject -- so long as you don't get whiny, you still get a fair shake. Whining does not find a lot of sympathy here.
Well, except for NTodd but he's like teachers pet or something.
Damn you, mer!
i started commenting the first day i found the site...
but reticence has never been one of my shortcomings...
./
jennifer
link via yglesias to the wingnut ravings at the Peretz Snakepit.
and the commenters at TNR make me laugh. neoconservatives and neoliberals, batshit birds of a feather flocking together.
Because, after all, he SHOULDN'T be forgotten:
SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. - CBS Radio is suing a small radio station for airing reruns of Don Imus' program since his firing for sexist and racist comments about the Rutgers University women's college basketball team.
The lawsuit filed this past week in federal court in Riverside claims KCAA-AM and its license holder violated copyright protections. The suit seeks a temporary restraining order and $150,000 for each violation. A hearing is set for Tuesday.
The station, which had carried the shock jock's morning show since 2003, started airing recordings of old shows last Monday along with listener calls, mail and e-mails reacting to the controversy.
KCAA attorney Brian Oxman said the station is trying to educate the public.
CBS Radio said it asked the station to stop. The defendants "have made it clear ... that only a judicial decree will prevent them from persisting in their actions," CBS says in court filings.
KCAA chairman Fred Lundgren wrote to CBS attorneys saying the station plans to continue airing the shows through April 27 but would then destroy its Imus materials and tapes.
CBS declined to comment beyond its court filings.
The 1,400-watt station reaches areas east and south of Los Angeles.
i started commenting the first day i found the site...
Weird, because you seem to be such a wallflower...
I've found you can be dead bang opposite the whole rest of the community on a subject -- so long as you don't get whiny, you still get a fair shake. Whining does not find a lot of sympathy here.
Well, except for NTodd but he's like teachers pet or something.
catalexis Cmdr. re-ed camp 6
We just routinely make exceptions for everything for NTodd, and I still don't know why.
Probably the reason I wasn't intimidated to comment was that I had been on those worthless AOL chat boards, which were impossible for any kind of logical discussion. Compared to those, this blog and all others are remarkably troll-free.
Oh, great, he's created another Norman loop.
He said, Learing.
...and of course, a wall. Don't forget the wall.
I've had a feeling all along that Wolfowitz's new troubles were hatched by his political enemies in the World Bank because he has been trying to make it more effective, more honest, and less politicized.
Clearly I only thought I was leaving. I hope that we come into the new week with the ongoing resolve to call out heinous LIES like this one for what they are.
There is absolutely nothing in the Wolfowitz curriculum vitae that suggests that he has an honest, decent, or intelligent bone in his entire body. Wherever he goes, there is the center of the local corruption. The Workd Bank situation simply proves it, and I'm pretty goddamn sure he made off with a good bit of the Iraq money, to boot.
Tena: But here I am, 4 years later, thicker skinned, meaner, and happier.
The Internet is Not A Good Place for people who can get their feelings hurt. Say your piece, lurkers, and be prepared to defend it.
Laters.
I lurked here for three or four months before I first commented. I've never found it terribly cliquish or particularly nasty about dissenting comments as long as one is actually trying to discuss a point of disagreement rather than just shout unsupported talking points to be disruptive.
Weird, because you seem to be such a wallflower...
NTodd Kaczynski | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:20 pm | #
Woody's reticence is legendary....
Probably the reason I wasn't intimidated to comment was that I had been on those worthless AOL chat boards, which were impossible for any kind of logical discussion. Compared to those, this blog and all others are remarkably troll-free.
Jennifer
Then there were the Yahoo comment boards.
No wonder they were discontinued. Talk about the dregs.......
The Editors link to an article at The American Conservative that is just poo.
A snippet.
Why was Obama so insistent upon rejecting the white race?
Perhaps because we all (especially young men) want to belong to something we see as bigger and stronger than us, a winning team. And conquest, who rules whom, is the ultimate team sport.
From adolescence onward, Obama wanted a race to belong to, a team whose accomplishments would reflect well upon him. Of course, it was unthinkable in his liberal white family to take pride in the achievements of his mother’s race, so Obama gloried in being part of his absent father’s race.
Obama was accepted into posh Occidental College in Los Angeles, which then had a black mayor, Tom Bradley. But Oxy wasn’t black enough, so in search of a community to belong to, he transferred to Harlem … well, to be precise, to that prestigious university on the edge of Harlem, Columbia. (A recurrent theme in Obama’s career is Power to the People gestures and Ivy League results.)
Good grief.
link via yglesias to the wingnut ravings at the Peretz Snakepit.
Another "faux" scandal. That's the Repugs main defense - the scandal isn't "real." Everyone knows the scandals are real, you idiots! No one believes you.
We just routinely make exceptions for everything for NTodd, and I still don't know why.
I think it's because I'm so goddamned erudite and fucking charming.
my first comment was on how bizarre it was to see people freaking out about racing for firsts and seconds but once I'd tried it, I was hooked.
warsaw ghetto.
Whatever. Just let me blogwhore my Friday Jefferson.
Obama rejected the "White Race?"
Good googly moogly! Do they not realize what out front racists they are? Do they not care?
It's nice that they're building a spiffy, modern ghetto for the Sunni.
NTodd Kaczynski
Michelle Malkin will be SO thrilled that her advice has been followed at last.
Whoa. Norman Loop makes me tingly.
perhaps nxt the coalition will build a wall to seperate the Kurds from the rest of Iraq....
NTodd, we make exceptions for you because you're so damn cute. And you have adorable Kidz.
But Oxy wasn’t black enough, so in search of a community to belong to, he transferred to Harlem … well, to be precise, to that prestigious university on the edge of Harlem, Columbia
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FUCK
get a life, nimtit
I say it takes one to know one in this case.
/the vapid braying of an ass.
HoneyBear, that is hilarious. I didn't know everyone went to Columbia to play Harlem Negro but now I do. I thought they went there because it was Ivy league. I was so naive.
my first comment was on how bizarre it was to see people freaking out about racing for firsts and seconds but once I'd tried it, I was hooked.
The FRIST one's free...
Whenever I post here, I get nothing but hate. None of the oh so sensitive and intelligent liberals here want to engage me in debate.
Whoa. Norman Loop makes me tingly.
And here I thought it was Natalie Portman.
so how will the nutty wingnutosphere square this one?
Moonbootica, Jog On!
Same way they square every circle they see...
perhaps nxt the coalition will build a wall to seperate the Kurds from the rest of Iraq....
Moonbootica
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I guess Biden is on this already:
"fellas, this is not what I meant when I said we had to partition Iraq"
We just routinely make exceptions for everything for NTodd, and I still don't know why.
Every village needs an idiot. Virtual village, virtual dingus.
NTodd, we make exceptions for you because you're so damn cute. And you have adorable Kidz.
My Kidz have never been linked by Swampland, damn it.
I was glad to see Atrios's post about debt forgiveness. I'm studying for my Tax final, and it made me feel smart.
Whenever I post here, I get nothing but hate. None of the oh so sensitive and intelligent liberals here want to engage me in debate.
Because you are a deranged coward with nothing to debate. Spend some time in the military and maybe learn something about life, you perverted yellow whackjob.
Another "faux" scandal. That's the Repugs main defense - the scandal isn't "real." Everyone knows the scandals are real, you idiots! No one believes you.
Tena | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:21 pm | #
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I am blown away by the liberal facts and logic. Not.
Who knew that a white friend of mine from Malibu has sent his daughter to Columbia to get in touch with her inner-negro?
ciao for now, have to go have some dinner
Good googly moogly! Do they not realize what out front racists they are? Do they not care?
Number two, here.
I had NO IDEA that there is such a thing as a "Norman Loop" outside of "I, Mudd".
Clearly I only thought I was leaving. I hope that we come into the new week with the ongoing resolve to call out heinous LIES like this one for what they are.
well, the Big Lie has always found a home in the pages of the neoconservatives house rag, TNR. and Marty has taken time out of his busy schedule smearing Soros as a Nazi collaborator to defend Wolfie, maybe because his venal intellectual and moral positions make Peretz seem a little less meshugenna.
This weeks TNR is cranking up the wurlitzer, wondering why we haven't attacked Iran yet. TNR, where the Big Lie gets some street cred.
putzes.
And here I thought it was Natalie Portman.
She gets me in a Tingle Loop.
Every village needs an idiot. Virtual village, virtual dingus.
Well I feel very keenly that the idiot is a part of the old village system, and as such has a vital role to play in a modern rural society, because you see ... ooh ar ooh ar before the crops go gey are in the medley crun and the birds slides nightly on the oor ar ...
I'm late for the Wanker thread, but I never got the story of Kerry ordering his Philly cheese steak "wrong." Who made this rule and who encouraged the idiot press to run with it? I think I can guess
Presumably if the sandwich shop is offering Swiss cheese on their steaks, then it's an legit choice. Or is that too logical? And Cheez Whiz is about the most repellent, over-processed non-food I've ever had
We just routinely make exceptions for everything for NTodd, and I still don't know why.
Every village needs an idiot. Virtual village, virtual dingus.
JeffCO
!!
SallyH is too damn nice.
This administration seems to like the idea of concentration camps and ghettos.
"It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!" - Rush Limbaugh
Whenever I post here, I get nothing but hate. None of the oh so sensitive and intelligent liberals here want to engage me in debate.
Shoelimpy™
This is because you're a living Aggie stereotype, cumstain.
Good morning Tena Hope your week's gone well.
I so cannot wait for the end of May.
I am blown away by the liberal facts and logic. Not.
the intellectual acumen of Aggie grads like you, allen, never fails to underwhelm the rest of us.
Whenever I post here, I get nothing but hate. None of the oh so sensitive and intelligent liberals here want to engage me in debate.
It's because you're a fucking asshole.
*virtual dingus*
heh.
"It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!" - Rush Limbaugh
underwhelm '
Cause and effect, you drug addled bag of putrid gas!
Swiss cheese is eleitist. Cheeze Whiz is what the real people eat. Kerry will never pass for a real person, unlike Bush, who clears his own brush off the land and works hard.
I am blown away by the liberal facts and logic. Not.
Shoelimpy™ | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:26 pm
okay, you have been recognized...
you may now return to your normal pastime: sucking dog-shit through a flavo-straw...
I'm late for the Wanker thread, but I never got the story of Kerry ordering his Philly cheese steak "wrong." Who made this rule and who encouraged the idiot press to run with it? I think I can guess
Presumably if the sandwich shop is offering Swiss cheese on their steaks, then it's an legit choice. Or is that too logical? And Cheez Whiz is about the most repellent, over-processed non-food I've ever had
Draco
That was Michael Smegmaconish's bullshit.
I'd like to see Bush try to eat a Philly cheesesteak. Half of it would probably end up in his lap.
What would you like to debate, shaggy coward?
I'd like to know why your father disavowed you. Was it because of your shaggy appearance? Or your cowardice?
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Gravy is almost done...
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///We just routinely make exceptions for everything for NTodd, and I still don't know why.///
"...I think it's because I'm so goddamned erudite and fucking charming.
NTodd Kaczynski | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:21 pm | # ..."
Stan Getz on blowhards:
"Some guys can blow and some can't. What pisses me is that those who can't blow, blow anway, but it's something else altogether. And you know what?
"But let's blow."
None of the oh so sensitive and intelligent liberals here want to engage me in debate.
Once again, someone has mistaken 'sensitivity' for 'rolling over and playing dead.'
Whenever I post here, I get nothing but hate. None of the oh so sensitive and intelligent liberals here want to engage me in debate.
I am blown away by the liberal facts and logic. Not.
Shoelimpy™
This is what you consider to be "debate", Limpdicky™? Still wondering why no one will "engage" you in it?
Swiss cheese is eleitist.
Proper spelling is ELITIST, too, apparently.
Jeffraham, looks like hillbilly breakfast coming on! How're the Boys?
Ashlyn, don't try to tell us you don't know from blowing, honey.
Just go blow simels. By which I mean - again, of course.
Once again, someone has mistaken 'sensitivity' for 'rolling over and playing dead.'
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.21.07 - 12:29 pm | #
That is what liberals want America to do in the face of terror.
"Whenever I post here, I get nothing but hate"
You get back what you give.
I knew I was going to draw fire with that "small grain of truth" statement. I knew everybody was going to focus on that. I'm not defending what Zod said in his post. The vicious insults against all the most active posters were childish, snotty, and unfair. But the small grain of truth is that as highly visited discussion forums go, Eschaton is one where new posters, especially if they express unpopular opinions, are viewed with a lower-than-average level of trust by the people who post here the most. People's motives, IMO, are called into question a little too quickly.
It sure doesn't keep me from posting here, though, even though I have felt unfairly treated a number of times. The extraordinary overall intelligence and knowledgability of many of the people participating in the discussion far outweighs that element for me.
Ya think marty peretz borrows wolfie's comb?
./
That wall around the Sunni enclave? Tactically and morally it's the equivalent of the vengeance weapons Hitler deployed against Britain. Don't tell me Bush thinks we can win this thing. He fucking knows it's in the crapper, and he's having the army smear shit on the walls before we bug out.
The only practical use for this malicious strategy is as a dry run for caging disaffected populations stateside.
Y'know that Baghdad bridge which was 'blown up by a truck bomb' a week or so ago?
It was a main crossing point from Azamiyah over the Tigris. And the damage done by the 'bomb' was rather like that of a controlled explosion.
Terry, have you noticed that Bush talks while his mouth is full? Once again, evidence for the idea that money does not = class.
Liberals consider "debate" agreeing with them, or else. They cannot tolerate anything in their worldview that is not liberal or biased.
I'd like to know why your father disavowed you. Was it because of your shaggy appearance? Or your cowardice?
Snow, Propter Hoc
Because he lives off women?
Or pretends to be his own girlfriend?
That is what liberals want America to do in the face of terror.
How many Aggies does it take to peel an M&M? no really, allen, it's a serious question.
That is what liberals want America to do in the face of terror.
I laugh in the face of terror.
Which is why I laugh at the petulant three year old and Defib Dick. The foremost terrorists on the planet.
I have not once seen anybody use Cheez Whiz on a cheesesteak.
Have I been living a sheltered life or something?
Sybil's letting all the personalities come out to play!
Word that. People often forget that Eschaton is a media blog, first, then a politics blog, and this has been an ugly, ugly media decade.
Minor calendrical errors corrected While-U-Wait...
"Once again, someone has mistaken 'sensitivity' for 'rolling over and playing dead.'
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.21.07 - 12:29 pm | #
That is what liberals want America to do in the face of terror."
If you are going to troll, at least respond in the context of the statement.
Sheesh. Even your alter ego knows better.
The vicious insults against all the most active posters were childish, snotty, and unfair. But the small grain of truth is that as highly visited discussion forums go, Eschaton is one where new posters, especially if they express unpopular opinions, are viewed with a lower-than-average level of trust by the people who post here the most. People's motives, IMO, are called into question a little too quickly.
It sure doesn't keep me from posting here, though, even though I have felt unfairly treated a number of times. The extraordinary overall intelligence and knowledgability of many of the people participating in the discussion far outweighs that element for me.
blerb | 04.21.07 - 12:31 pm | #
Then you didn't understand my comment - I didn't flame you - I agreed, but I also gave what I think is the reason for that grain of truth, such as it is. You come in here bucking the entire community, and Zod has, then you get jumped on. That's just the way groups work.
Terry, have you noticed that Bush talks while his mouth is full? Once again, evidence for the idea that money does not = class.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Bush is a pig. A clueless, badly brought up, sociopath, cowardly, stupid pig.
So are his remaining supporters.
I am blown away by the liberal facts and logic. Not.
Someone's using Borat's comedy coach.
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Ya think marty peretz borrows wolfie's comb?
only when dating his own interns.
Liberals consider "debate" agreeing with them, or else.
Projection, jection,
What's your fecktion?
Sallyh: Jeffraham, looks like hillbilly breakfast coming on! How're the Boys?
Finer'n frog hair. L.E.'s getting bacon scraps, and lovin' it.
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Ya think marty peretz borrows wolfie's comb?
[Groan] please quit reminding me of that fucking goddamn comb - it turns my stomach -
I am struck by the reversal of rhetoric over the last several years. It was not too long ago that the Right castigated the Left if when some poor slob was brought up on charges anyone on the Left were to make mention of said slob's hard life of poverty. Now all discussion of Alberto Gonzales must be seen in context of his difficult childhood?
The Right used to mock the Left for engaging in "Situational Ethics", now if there's torture happening it isn't good or bad till we know who's doing it to whom?
Authoritarian hypocrisy makes sense if you realize they don't start from a question of whether something is right or wrong until after they answer the question "Who benefits?"
Fear of terror: nonexistent.
Fear of eating it on the 405: orders of magnitude greater.
Bush is a pig. A clueless, badly brought up, sociopath, cowardly, stupid pig.
The apple of his mother's eye.
Look, we need to bomb the crap out of Islam. God wants us to.
The whole bullshit with Kerry and the Philly cheesesteak:
I was born, raised, went to school in South Philly and spent the first 44 years of my life there.
All of my friends in Philadelphia...and my family...didn't see what the big deal was about the cheesesteak. The attitude was "If the man wanted Swiss cheese on his cheesesteak, what's the big deal? Why can't you order what you want?"
Liberals consider "debate" agreeing with them, or else.
Limpdicky considers "debate" to be a conversation between his two alter-egos.
Look, we need to bomb the crap out of Islam. God wants us to.
How do you bomb the crap out of something ephemeral?
The Right used to mock the Left for engaging in "Situational Ethics", now if there's torture happening it isn't good or bad till we know who's doing it to whom?
Bubba, we zoomed past that point and the Rat Wing turned it inside out eons ago.
Look, we need to bomb the crap out of Islam. God wants us to.
well, since allen butler can't answer the hard ones, let's try an easier question:
How many Aggies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Punch lines to my two favorite Aggie jokes (aggie joke: world-class redundancy)
"My lunch was in the pocket!"
"The mule died."
try the veal...
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That is what liberals want America to do in the face of terror.
You know. From now on, when you address me or any of your betters directly or indirectly, the first and last damn words out of your filthy fucking hole better be "Sir".
Do you understand me, coward.
Fucking pansy graduate of a college with a half-rate cadet corps to which you didn't even belong.
Every little trollie here understands full well the point that has been made frequently of late regarding the pundit class: disingenuous and intellectually dishonest spouting of talking points or outright lies will ever be met with scorn, derision, and mockery, as it should be. There is not only no reason to take such people seriously, there is great reason not to make any attempt to engage in Serious Discussion or Reasonable Debate with them. They aren't serious, or reasonable. They're Trolls.
You might be a troll if:
- you enjoy entering conversations complaining about how you're treated
- FOR SOME REASON YOU'RE ALWAYS SHOUTING
- you post nonsense and attribute it to sources you never provide
- somehow every thread you're becomes all about you
- and so forth
ephemeral?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.21.07 - 12:35 pm | #
1 billion people, many of them dangerous terrorists? Hardly ephemeral.
Bush is a pig. A clueless, badly brought up, sociopath, cowardly, stupid pig.
The apple of his mother's eye.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
The rotten fruit did not fall far from the diseased tree.
Why can't you order what you want?"
Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
When it gets to the point where there are cheesesteak snobs, we need to reboot society.
1 billion people, many of them dangerous terrorists? Hardly ephemeral.
And hardly willing to just sit back and take it...
I suppose Shoelimpy wouldn't understand that practitioners of Islam are called Muslims, as opposed to the faith itself, which is called Islam.
Go in front of one of my classes and say that, you fucking coward. I've got Muslims in all my classes. They worry a lot more about passing my class than they do about suicide bombing little shits like you.
1 billion people, many of them dangerous terrorists? Hardly ephemeral.
If you're really seeking to identify terrorists with a religion, you'll have better luck with Christianity.
When it gets to the point where there are cheesesteak snobs, we need to reboot society.
people could never understand why I wanted my Phillie drenched with pickles. elitists!
I don't fear terror.
I laugh in the face of rightards and challenge their retarded views of the world.
And I refuse to hate millions of people for the actions of a few assholes.
The God of Abraham is the God of Islam.
Look, Muslims want to KILL US. We need to KILL THEM FIRST. Are you libs all suicidal? Why do you jump into Moo-slime arms when panicked as the LGF banner illustrates?
You know, I'm not sure if I've blathered one of my pet observations here-- although given my prolific blathering, I'm sure I have.
Anyhoo, I've always felt that the GWOT-- and its chief exercise in aberration, the Iraq War-- echoed the spirit of the US Indian Wars. Apart from obvious differences, e.g. that Iraqis aren't nomadic tribes, there's still that "imperial white soldiers vs. a diaspora of native brown hostiles" dynamic.
There's a very similar cultural clash, with our latter-day warmongering winguts believing implicitly in Amerikan exceptionalism, that the US of A is destined to rule the entire world and impose a form of government which is ludicrously hallucinated to be "free and democratic" by True Believers.
The windigo of the White Man's Burden remains firmly attached by wingnuts to Lady Liberty.
The fact that the US is about to actually build a rez fits right into my Indian Wars recapitulated notion, FWIW.
The God of Abraham is the God of Islam.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:38 pm | #
WRONG.
[Groan] please quit reminding me of that fucking goddamn comb - it turns my stomach -
Tena
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yup
I saw the clip the other day where he "performs" with his comb. Until then it was just a flat WTF and now it is actually nauseating.
NTodd is around because he can both take it and dish it out.
Not everybody can.
Look, Muslims want to KILL US. We need to KILL THEM FIRST. Are you libs all suicidal? Why do you jump into Moo-slime arms when panicked as the LGF banner illustrates?
No they don't, you gob of rancid pigshit.
Paul Wolfowitz would be nauseating even without the comb.
We need to KILL THEM FIRST.
What the fuck did I tell you , maggot shit?
Why is your father so disappointed in you?
Loath as I am to criticize the manly administration, this ghettoizing strategy sounds too much like the VaTech wussie who baracaded the door rather than inviting the killer to be bravely confronted -- as I would have done.
Look, Christians want to KILL US. We need to KILL THEM FIRST.
just because a frustrated, unemployed writer like Allen Butler wets his pants when seeing his own shadow on the suidewalk doesn't mean the rest of us need to put on the Depends.
The Right used to mock the Left for engaging in "Situational Ethics", now if there's torture happening it isn't good or bad till we know who's doing it to whom?
yep
they hate victims, yet love to play v lately.
Muslims want to KILL US.
No they don't.
No they don't, you gob of rancid pigshit.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 04.21.07 - 12:39 pm | #
More liberal debating style.
NTodd is around because he can both take it and dish it out.
[sobs, runs from room, pauses to scratch balls]
The God of Abraham is the God of Islam.
HoneyBearKelly
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yes
And that, my friend, should lead the way to peace, should being the operative.
The Right used to mock the Left for engaging in "Situational Ethics", now if there's torture happening it isn't good or bad till we know who's doing it to whom?
Accusation always equals confession with these folks.
Dicklimpy™, no one here is interested in watching your mental masturbation. Get a room.
there's still that "imperial white soldiers vs. a diaspora of native brown hostiles" dynamic.
Recognizing them as nothing more than savage animals made their destruction much more palatable to Europeans.
I guess it's the flu medicine. True, we are eons past discovering that IOKIYAR had this whacked tribal component. It's like marveling at how intricate your hand is when you're somewhat out of it. I'm all out of fresh Profound, all I got is stuff in the back that's past it's shelf life but which I had forgotten was back there.
Need I remind myself that every response to stoopud provocations from trollies nets them a quarter? That's one less quarter for NTodd.
Here's prolly why they use Cheeze Whiz wit insead of other cheese. It doesn't string our as much as a mosserella or swiss. Makes a messy sangwich a bit less messy to eat.
Moo-slimes ARE animals. Koranimals.
Accusation always equals confession with these folks. Phila
Ha! So you admit your complicity?
More liberal debating style.
I invite you to enlist and go kill all of the Muslims you are able.
But the best part of you ran down your mother's ass and ended up a brown stain on the bed sheets.
Muslims, Christians and Jews all pray to the same God.
Get over it.
No they don't, you gob of rancid pigshit.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 04.21.07 - 12:39 pm | #
More liberal debating style.
You're not interested in discussion, or debate, or conversation, you pathetic little permanent civilian slimemold.
Need I remind myself that every response to stoopud provocations from trollies nets them a quarter? That's one less quarter for NTodd.
AND DADDY NEEDS A NEW PAIR OF SHOES!
Folks, time to set our phasers on "Ignore."
Allen Butler wets his pants
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ooooh
oooh
Human Brain Has Origin in Lowly Worm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/
livescie...igininlowlyworm
Well, that explains George Bush and the stupidest troll on the internet.
You can't ignore me, I have the truth, you know it, and you HATE it.
WRONG.
Shoelimpy™ | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:39 pm
great debating skills, there, shitwhistle...
picked those up at College Station, didja....
i'm sher impressed...
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I didn't flame you
I didn't think you were flaming me, Tena. I took no exception to what you said. I just wanted to get ahead of the perception that I was whining on my own behalf about Eschaton being extraordinarily cliquish. It looked to me like what I said precipitated a whole series of statements defending Eschaton against the smear that it is excessively clubby, so I wanted to clarify my position on the matter. Like I said, I continue to post here because the good far outweighs the bad to me.
And as to Zod, if he really did go psycho-stalker on people, then I have no defense for him.
I don't fear terror.
I laugh in the face of rightards and challenge their retarded views of the world.
Wise, inasmuch as statistically, terror hardly exists.
There is no fucking Great War on Terror because the people ostensibly running it know there isn't any real danger.
They are fronting - it's cover for their bullshit and their bullshit war.
AND DADDY NEEDS A NEW PAIR OF SHOES!
Well, clearly, Daddy doesn't need pants.
It doesn't string our as much as a mosserella or swiss. Makes a messy sangwich a bit less messy to eat.
Bad Art |
Ab-so-lute-ly the answer.
.
Folks, time to set our phasers on "Ignore."
New recruits who fall out of their first run in boot have more martial valor in them than Dicklimpy.
Phasers so set.
Here's prolly why they use Cheeze Whiz wit insead of other cheese. It doesn't string our as much as a mosserella or swiss. Makes a messy sangwich a bit less messy to eat.
Bad Art
It was just so fucking pathetic that the rightards had to make a big deal about what one orders on their cheesesteak.
As if that was such an important thing.
given the terror spread by Christians like Cho and Terry Nichols and Tim McVeigh I really think we ought to start registering Christians, and maybe build some "security camps" for the Christians own safety.
Notice the trollie is too frightened to respond to my comments directed to his pathetic cowardly knee-knocking uneducated worthless ass.
Umm, aren't these the trollie who posted a list of rulez for how to disrupt liberal blogs, and isn't he engaging in several of them currently (and somewhat successfully)?
Shoelimpy™
Wise, inasmuch as statistically, terror hardly exists.
There is no fucking Great War on Terror because the people ostensibly running it know there isn't any real danger.
They are fronting - it's cover for their bullshit and their bullshit war.
Tena
And, Tena, they can't stand to be laughed at.
Here's prolly why they use Cheeze Whiz wit insead of other cheese. It doesn't string our as much as a mosserella or swiss. Makes a messy sangwich a bit less messy to eat.
Bad Art
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It is one punch of a finger on the nozzle easy vs. cutting cheese.
It looked to me like what I said precipitated a whole series of statements defending Eschaton against the smear that it is excessively clubby, so I wanted to clarify my position on the matter. Like I said, I continue to post here because the good far outweighs the bad to me.
And as to Zod, if he really did go psycho-stalker on people, then I have no defense for him.
blerb
Well, everyone is free to make his or her own assessment of someone posting here, but don't expect others of us to back off someone when they do stalk people. That's where this all gets stupid and disingenuous - sometimes the trolls are believed, and they are invariably the ones who start the shit they end up whining about.
But as to your post - I understand where you're coming from. I've bucked the community before -it's a very uncomfortable place to be in but I always end up realizing I put myself there.
great debating skills, there, shitwhistle...
which is why allen butler is now, and will remain ever more, an unemployed writer.
Damn, that was a haloscam oddity.
That was meant to read:
Shoelimpy = the sound of one gum flapping.
Toothlessly.
Terry, sad when one like the trollie takes itself so seriously.
I take a lot of things seriously, but myself isn't one of them.
Phasers were teh cool, but I never saw anybody charging them up. I wonder what they ran on.
Boy, since I came back here a few days ago, I had dared to hope that in my absence perhaps Limp/Anal had finally disappeared for good. I guess I was wrong.
Max P--recycled Pampers?
Umm, aren't these the trollie who posted a list of rulez for how to disrupt liberal blogs, and isn't he engaging in several of them currently (and somewhat successfully)?
JeffCO | 04.21.07 - 12:44 pm | #
The fact that people respond to shoeannie every time he shows up is the single biggest mystery at Eschaton. Thers's ability to father 257 children while impotent from drink pales in comparison.
So did anyone else catch this on Olbermann last night?
...Paul Rieckhoff just made an interesting point on Countdown regarding a speech given by the Decider today... apparently our beloved leader put a big red X on where US are positioned in Iraq, showing once again that his version of supporting the troops is at best political theater and at worst, dangerous to our national security...
Nancy: Philly people must really be lazy. It's actually very easy for me to cut cheese.
Run along now, coward.
At a double time, coward! Get out while you are able.
The area, located on the eastern side of the Tigris River, would be completely gated, with entrances and exits manned by Iraqi soldiers,
Are the Iraqi soldiers Shiite or Sunni? If they're Shiite, well, if I were Sunni, I'd be a little bit less than thrilled with the notion that the same guys who are working with the death squads are also "ensuring my safety"
blerb, they're sort of a tradition around here, just like the drunken ferrets and cat photos.
Well it's lunchtime in the land of the cheesesteak. I'm gonna go have one (American cheese - yeah I know) and a few beers to boot.
Be back later.
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But as to your post - I understand where you're coming from. I've bucked the community before -it's a very uncomfortable place to be in but I always end up realizing I put myself there.
Tena
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remembering three strikes
I think the phasers used the ubiquitous "energy" of the dilithium crystals.
Was that too geeky?
Phasers were teh cool, but I never saw anybody charging them up. I wonder what they ran on.
They had a little plug-in box at the back called a "power pack" that acted as a battery...
So did anyone else catch this on Olbermann last night?
Hoffmania has a post about it.
I remember one campaign stop that the now FORMER Senator Santorum made in 2000 when he was running for re-election.
He stopped at the 9th Street Market in Philadelphia (only remembered he was Italian-American when he needed the PEONS' votes, you know).
They had a photo of him trying to eat a cheesesteak.
Had NO idea how to even HOLD the thing.
But, that was okay, because Senator Man on Dog was a Repuke.
The fact that people respond to shoeannie every time he shows up is the single biggest mystery at Eschaton. Thers's ability to father 257 children while impotent from drink pales in comparison.
Phila
See, there you go - bucking the community.
!!!!!
Well, everyone is free to make his or her own assessment of someone posting here, but don't expect others of us to back off someone when they do stalk people.
Who's stalking people? What'd I miss?
(Assuming it's OK with the Kings and Queens of Eschaton for me to ask...)
Nancy: Philly people must really be lazy. It's actually very easy for me to cut cheese.
Bad Art
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Just have to lift one cheek, z'all
Umm, aren't these the trollie who posted a list of rulez for how to disrupt liberal blogs, and isn't he engaging in several of them currently (and somewhat successfully)?
well, Allen Butler sure is disruptive, and a racist who doesn't really believe 99% of what he dribbles but every time you use his real name, Allen Butler, Google increases the possibility that Allen Butler will always be known as
a)a troll
b)a shitty unemployed writer
c)psychologically troubled and possibly dangerous to himself and to others
I am sure Allen Butler will figure this out eventually, right Allen Butler, Texas A&M graduate ?
Max P--recycled Pampers?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
That would certainly explain the "stun" setting.
Hoffmania link to the president's treasonous comments.
The only thing you achieve by arguing with a troll is that you're dumber than he's pretending to be.
hermanito:
well said, above, about USer exceptionalism...
The Neocon/PNAC axis has revived the notion that it is somehow the "Manifest Destiny" of the USer way of life (especially the economy) to convert the world...though they don't call it that...
(Assuming it's OK with the Kings and Queens of Eschaton for me to ask...)
Phila
I'll have to think about it. Come back tomorrow.
Alas, this laundry won't do itself.
Later.
The fact that people respond to shoeannie every time he shows up is the single biggest mystery at Eschaton.
I can understand the appeal of hunting rodents. Small varmints if you will.
See, there you go - bucking the community.
!!!!!
Tena | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:48 pm | #
Oh, I'm not afraid whose toes I step on!
I'm even willing to say bad things about Hillary Clinton, if you get a little liquor into me...
Who's stalking people? What'd I miss?
(Assuming it's OK with the Kings and Queens of Eschaton for me to ask...)
Phila
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I haven't read all the way upthread but it must have something to do with Zod here today.
He whacked out a ways back and was probably banned for all the nutso shit he pulled. yes, stalking for one.
Well, I'd throw in my $0.02 berating people not to respond to limp/anal, but I think I've said enough about meta-issues for one day.
The Neocon/PNAC axis has revived the notion that it is somehow the "Manifest Destiny" of the USer way of life (especially the economy) to convert the world...though they don't call it that...
WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul
Complete with the "God's Will" justification.
I think most of us do ignore the trolls but there are some (and we love ya but it's true) who are like cats when the laser pointer comes out.
nytimes opines bush is at crossroads about gonzo and wolfowitz
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com
Umm, aren't these the trollie who posted a list of rulez for how to disrupt liberal blogs, and isn't he engaging in several of them currently (and somewhat successfully)?
well, Allen Butler sure is disruptive, and a racist who doesn't really believe 99% of what he dribbles but every time you use his real name, Allen Butler, Google increases the possibility that Allen Butler will always be known as
a)a troll
b)a shitty unemployed writer
c)psychologically troubled and possibly dangerous to himself and to others
I am sure Allen Butler will figure this out eventually, right Allen Butler, Texas A&M graduate ?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
O, you're talking about the Troll, Allen Butler, from A & M? That Allen Butler, the troll? O yeah, I know about Allen Butler, the troll.
Alas, this laundry won't do itself.
now you tell me!
Looks like Allen Butler is one of them there insaahd jokes...
My little beggar... crying for more bacon.
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The Neocon/PNAC axis has revived the notion that it is somehow the "Manifest Destiny" of the USer way of life (especially the economy) to convert the world...though they don't call it that...
WG'sGuitar
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heh
if so, we had better start to collect one hell of a lot more of our corporate taxes than we do now. bitches.
The Neocon/PNAC axis has revived the notion that it is somehow the "Manifest Destiny" of the USer way of life (especially the economy) to convert the world...though they don't call it that...
WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul
Convert the world - meaning they want to make everyone as stupid, ignorant and superstitious as they are.
He whacked out a ways back and was probably banned for all the nutso shit he pulled. yes, stalking for one.
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:51 pm | #
Huh. I guess I missed that. Creepy.
Oh, I'm not afraid whose toes I step on!
I'm even willing to say bad things about Hillary Clinton, if you get a little liquor into me...
Phila
Like I haven't noticed that in the last 3 or so years.
No the only thing I don't like about you, Phila, is that you completely refuse to respond to flirting.
well, Allen Butler sure is disruptive, and a racist who doesn't really believe 99% of what he dribbles but every time you use his real name, Allen Butler, Google increases the possibility that Allen Butler will always be known as
a)a troll
b)a shitty unemployed writer
c)psychologically troubled and possibly dangerous to himself and to others
I am sure Allen Butler will figure this out eventually, right Allen Butler, Texas A&M graduate ?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Heh heh heh. I certainly hope that all of Allen Butler, troll, shitty unemployed writer and psychologically troubled and possibly dangerous to himself and others, Texas A&M graduate's prospective employers know how to use teh Google.
O, you're talking about the Troll, Allen Butler, from A & M? That Allen Butler, the troll? O yeah, I know about Allen Butler, the troll.
why yes, Tena, I am talking about that Allen Butler, the troll who posts as shoelimpy and annieangel and limpdick.
did you know Allen Butler doesn't even know how many Aggies it takes to peel an M&M?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 04.21.07 - 12:49 pm | #
Even so, I've never thought it was cool posting identifying info about people, even lame troll-os. Aside from the ethical issue, it's ineffective. No matter how often his name is posted, he still shows up.
Texas Aggie Debate:
"You're a great, leaking pile of pig-shit!"
"Am not."
"Are, too"
"Am not."
"Are, too"
"Am not."
"Are, too"
"Am not."
"Are, too"
...
Looks like Allen Butler is one of them there insaahd jokes...
blerb
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first I ever heard the name
but mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari has let on that it is the realworld name of frequent trollscum, Shoelimpy
Guess I should have figured that one out on my own......
Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb?
"Oi...Get your filthy hands off my desert!"
"What 'e say?"
Brezhnev took Afghanistan.
Begin took Beirut.
Galtieri took the Union Jack.
And Maggie, over lunch one day,
Took a cruiser with all hands.
Apparently, to make him give it back.
There used to be an Afghani restaurant in Durham, NC. The folks who ran it were just lovely people. They always heaped the plates with food, and you could tell they were just staying afloat, even before the whole terror terror terror clusterfuck.
The kids would come out and talk to the diners and practice their English, which was already pretty good anyway. They were just good, period.
Shoelimpy, you remind me of something Paul Fussell, a decorated WWII veteran, said recently: "Anyone who isn't angry about this war doesn't deserve to live."
O, you're talking about the Troll, Allen Butler, from A & M? That Allen Butler, the troll? O yeah, I know about Allen Butler, the troll.
why yes, Tena, I am talking about that Allen Butler, the troll who posts as shoelimpy and annieangel and limpdick.
did you know Allen Butler doesn't even know how many Aggies it takes to peel an M&M?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Yeah, yeah the Aggie, Allen Butler, troll.
I'm not surprised that Allen Butler, who is our troll, shoelimpy and his sockpuppets, annielimpie and the rest, don't know how many Aggies it takes to peel an m & m. I don't expect trolls like Aggie, Allen Butler to know anything at all.
Heh..smalfish, I started reading that and heard "Pepper".
The only thing you achieve by arguing with a troll is that you're dumber than he's pretending to be. Richard
When will you admit you're really his "good" persona?
Linking Gary Rupper's mug shot chases him away.
It appears as though using DickLimpy's real name gets rid of him.
we have had horrendous rows over the ethics of outing someone who choses to remain anonymous over in our Delaware political bloggers club.
I side with the rule that it is not fair game to out an anony.
actually, it was Richard who led us to the real identity of shoe/limp. I just offered up the echo echo echo.
I know I am in the minority, but given the disruptive quality of Allen Butler's comments, I feel perfectly fine with calling an Allen Butler an Allen Butler.
No the only thing I don't like about you, Phila, is that you completely refuse to respond to flirting.
Tena | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:53 pm | #
Don't kid me, sister. I'm as human as the next gink.
Paul Fussell, a decorated WWII veteran, said recently: "Anyone who isn't angry about this war doesn't deserve to live."
coozledad | 04.21.07 - 12:56 pm
'the great war and modern memory' should be required reading in every high school in the country...
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So this Allen Butler thing is effective? That's good to know.
Isn’t the Wall the absolute admission that “reconciliation” betweent the factions is failing. You can’t reconcile with somebody on the other side of a 10 foot wall.
It seems that the GOP is big on walls. Immigration Problems? Build a Wall. War in Iraq not working? Build a Wall. Maybe they’ll put a wall around Attorney General Gonzales next……
Comment by Trial Lawyer Richard :: April 20, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
I can understand the appeal of hunting rodents. Small varmints if you will.
Rat stew. It's all teh rage!
Allen Butler, the troll who posts as shoelimpy and annieangel and limpdick.
And that other psycho...piketree, is it?
I'm sure he has dozens more.
And Maggie, over lunch one day,
Took a cruiser with all hands.
Actually a battleship, the Belgrano, with all hands (or almost all). The Belgrano was formerly a US Navy battleship that had been sold to the Argentines (can't remember what it was called in the USN).
The only thing you achieve by arguing with a troll is that you're dumber than he's pretending to be. Richard
When will you admit you're really his "good" persona?
JeffCO
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HA!
this is were it gets really good - the parody trolls are outed
usually the boss swoops in with a new post to quell the uproar.
Maybe they’ll put a wall around Attorney General Gonzales next……
You mean they have'nt already?
It sure doesn't keep me from posting here, though, even though I have felt unfairly treated a number of times. The extraordinary overall intelligence and knowledgability of many of the people participating in the discussion far outweighs that element for me.
blerb
So it's ok for these people to treat you like crap because you think they are so intelligent and knowledgeable? OK, if that's the way you want to feel.
For the record, I don't stalk people. Some people think too much of themselves, and maybe I do at times as well. But I'm not a stalker. So get over yourself, Tena.
If you didn't like what I wrote, fine. But I find it amusing that you all know who I was writing about without actually putting any of your names on my posting. I guess it got a little too close to the truth.
I stand by everything I wrote, and you all proved it today. Within a few posts someone had to tell someone who had the gall to respond to me that I was an asshole.
And blerb, just go back and read your own posts. Don't try to fit in too hard, it only takes away from what you really feel. These people don't need their asses kissed by outsiders. They do to each other more than enough.
OK,
Time to go mow the lawn before it starts raining.
It seems that the GOP is big on walls. Immigration Problems? Build a Wall. War in Iraq not working? Build a Wall. Maybe they’ll put a wall around Attorney General Gonzales next……
GOP = Simplistic solutions to complex problems.
Even so, I've never thought it was cool posting identifying info about people, even lame troll-os. Aside from the ethical issue, it's ineffective. No matter how often his name is posted, he still shows up.
JeffCO | 04.21.07 - 12:54 pm | #
I'm with JeffCo on this one. As long as people are talking about the troll, he wins.
well said, above, about USer exceptionalism...
The Neocon/PNAC axis has revived the notion that it is somehow the "Manifest Destiny" of the USer way of life (especially the economy) to convert the world...though they don't call it that...
WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul
this wasn't the belief circa 2000. their nuttiness turns on a dime.
Rat stew. It's all teh rage! smalfish
I'd like a bowl without so much rat in it.
And blerb, just go back and read your own posts. Don't try to fit in too hard, it only takes away from what you really feel. These people don't need their asses kissed by outsiders. They do to each other more than enough.
General Zod
You know, Zod, if you have any friends, I am very surprised, cause you don't have a clue about friendship, apparently.
I'm really sorry for you.
The belgrano was a pre-ww ii-era crusier, the USS Phoenix...
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Phasers were teh cool, but I never saw anybody charging them up. I wonder what they ran on.
They had power packs. In Omega Glory, Capt Tracey mentions they drained several as the Koms kept coming...
'the great war and modern memory' should be required reading in every high school in the country...
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WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 12:58 pm | #
"Wartime," too. Especially the chapter called "The Real War Will Never Get in the Books."
I stand by everything I wr--
Nobody's fucking interested and nobody fucking cares.
Now drop those fries, bwah - you've got a line!
Excuse me, the Yangs.
My name is NOT Allen Butler, morons.
Being civil to others is ass kissing?
Oy!
They had power packs.
Coke me, Mr. Tastee-Freeze!
As long as people are talking about the troll, he wins.
The only thing worse than talking about trolls is not talking about trolls.
Wait.
I stand by everything I wrote, and you all proved it today. Within a few posts someone had to tell someone who had the gall to respond to me that I was an asshole.
And we stand by everything we wrote, which you have proven today. Thanks.
the single biggest mystery at Eschaton... Thers's ability to father 257 children while impotent from drink pales in comparison.
Phila
virile and divine? who knew?
USN ships bearing city-names were, typically, heavy cruisers...
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this wasn't the belief circa 2000. their nuttiness turns on a dime.
jello
The hell! I think it was the belief all along - they lied in 2000.
CooCoo lied his way through that entire campaign.
My name is NOT Allen Butler, morons.
Shoelimpy
*
some people think you are actually, Richard or mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Phaser set to Coke.
When will you admit you're really his "good" persona?
Jesus Christ. I oughted him as Allen Butler in the first place last year.
I'm fed up with all of you goddamn like-minded people who get along with each other.
I'm going to go take a shower now, and imagine that Tena's lathering my shapely thighs.
Maybe they’ll put a wall around Attorney General Gonzales next……
You mean they haven't already?
smalfish, armed
Gonzo shouldn't be too comfortable about having Monkey Boy's "confidence."
Rummy had that, too.
In Omega Glory, Capt Tracey mentions they drained several as the Koms kept coming...
More than a few Ensign Expendables "drained" themselves as the Koms kept coming.
Phaser set to Coke.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... phaser!
I have some flower to put in the ground and in their summer quarters'
laterz
Excuse me, the Yangs.
Well wich one was it? The Kom or the Yang?
virile and divine? who knew?
jello | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 1:02 pm | #
Molly Ivors, for one...
A recent guest on TDS was a guy who wrote a book about Blackwater, and was explaining who there are really two US armed forces in Iraq, and one is almost completely off the books.
I thought he was fascinating, but Jon was clearly giving him short shrift for some reason.
I'm going to go take a shower now, and imagine that Tena's lathering my shapely thighs.
Phila
O dream on! You already turned down your chances.
!!!!!
this wasn't the belief circa 2000. their nuttiness turns on a dime.
jello | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 1:00 pm
annnhh, i disagree...
google PNAC and read their documentation...
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Jesus Christ. I oughted him as Allen Butler in the first place last year. Richard
Well exactly - who would know better who he is?
In listening to the chimp last night, I came to the conclusion that he hasn't yet been informed of our new startegy of putting down the insurgency ourselves because the Iraqi troops will never be trained.
I'm going to go take a shower now, and imagine that Tena's lathering my shapely thighs.
And the Stallion rides into the sunset, guns ablazing.
I thought he was fascinating, but Jon was clearly giving him short shrift for some reason.
MP
I got the idea he was scaring Jon to death. Either that, or Jon thought he was a tad too tinfoil-y.
The belgrano was a pre-ww ii-era crusier, the USS Phoenix...
By damn, you are correct, sir -- a cruiser it was and formerly the USS Phoenix.
*hangs head and resolves to get facts straight next time before spouting off*
The hell! I think it was the belief all along - they lied in 2000.
CooCoo lied his way through that entire campaign.
Tena
i'm differentiating between the corporatists who have long been imperialistic and the rank and file wingnuts who were then anti-interventionists.
A UT grad and an A&M found themselves seated side by side on a cross-country plane trip.
The A&M grad -- Allen Butler -- said the UT grad, "Say, did you graduate for the University of Texas?"
"Why yes," the UT grad said. "How did you know?"
"Oh, well you can always tell Longhorns by the sophistication and intelligence with which they carry themselves."
"And you're an Aggie?" the UT grad asked.
"Why yes," said the A&M grad, swelling with pride. "How did you know?"
"I saw your classring when you were picking your nose."
That, and you -- nose-picking A&M grad Allen Butlet -- are a racist troll, shitty unemployed writer and danger to yourself, others and the country.
For the record, I don't stalk people. Some people think too much of themselves, and maybe I do at times as well. But I'm not a stalker. So get over yourself, Tena.
Don't look now, asshole, but you have three of your own fingers pointing right at you.
And blerb, just go back and read your own posts. Don't try to fit in too hard, it only takes away from what you really feel. These people don't need their asses kissed by outsiders. They do to each other more than enough.
General Zod
Oh, get over yourself already. I, and many other of the "regulars" here, have been flamed by other regulars here for saying things that they disagreed with. I regularly disagree with various regulars here on different topics. But I don't insult them when doing so because I generally respect their opinions and know them to be thoughtful people. I typically don't flame them in return even when they flame me because of that. I'm a grownup and recognize that I don't own their actions - only my own. If you don't think that flaming other people or personally insulting them simply because they've said something you do not agree with is a good thing to do, don't do it yourself. This is really not all that difficult to figure out.
Only the eyes of a chief may see the E Plebmnista!
i'm differentiating between the corporatists who have long been imperialistic and the rank and file wingnuts who were then anti-interventionists.
jello
Ok. As far as that goes, jello - the Rat Wing doesn't have beliefs. The Rat Wing goes where its leaders take it and they will support any fucking thing they are told to support.
They are a bunch of cattle being led around by rings in their noses by their idiot leaders.
Jeremy Scahill has seen the elephant, friends...
in east timor, at least, and probably in other places as well...
he's looked down the barrel of a loaded gun, and thought "well, shit, this is it."
when he's worried, i'm worried,...
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i'm differentiating between the corporatists who have long been imperialistic and the rank and file wingnuts who were then anti-interventionists.
I think it's pretty much a given that when some future democrat president decides that east bumfuck needs military intervention the right will revert back to non-interventionists once again.
O dream on! You already turned down your chances.
I don't recall doing that!
I don't get the "unresponsive to flirting" thing either.
Besides, you're the one who stood me up at this travel plaza in Donley County.
Jon thought he was a tad too tinfoil-y. Tena
If you have one of those new RFID passports you should wrap it in aluminum foil.
I got the idea he was scaring Jon to death. Either that, or Jon thought he was a tad too tinfoil-y.
Tena
Yeah, but this guy didn't give me that vibe. And there really is a second armed force in Iraq, who accounts to nobody but their corporate CEO.
My name is Allen Butler, morons.
Shoelimpy™ | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 1:01 pm | #
How nice of Allen Butler, Texas A&M graduate, to be honest with us. good on you, Allen.
My name is NOT Allen Butler, morons.
Shoelimpy
What is your name, then?
I thought he was fascinating, but Jon was clearly giving him short shrift for some reason.
I think was expecting a story about 150,000 mercenaries in Iraq and was disappointed to learn that 150,000 private contractors includes cooks and drivers who make up the vast majority of the 150K.
I thought he was fascinating, but Jon was clearly giving him short shrift for some reason.
Jon was embarrassed about knocking the book off the desk.
But yes, it was a very awkward interview.
And they were in NOLA for some reason.
Liberals consider "debate" agreeing with them, or else.
Wingers consider dissent treason.
They don't want debate.
I gotr the the impression Jon was fine with the guy, and impressed with his quickness in giving specific details about how our mercenaries operate in Iraq and in New Orleans.
Well wich one was it? The Kom or the Yang?
The Yangs. Tracey was allied with the Koms (or Coms, I guess). The Yangs were the savages in the hills. You know: the good guys.
Besides, you're the one who stood me up at this travel plaza in Donley County.
Phila
Where's Donley County?
We have more than one of those big fancy travel plazas now. I was waiting for you at the one outside Dumas.
Ok. As far as that goes, jello - the Rat Wing doesn't have beliefs. The Rat Wing goes where its leaders take it and they will support any fucking thing they are told to support.
They are a bunch of cattle being led around by rings in their noses by their idiot leaders.
Tena
Thinking for oneself is HARD WORK.
Given the fact that so many otherwise reasonable, intelligent people respond to the trolls, I've come to the conclusion that they serve a weird purpose. It's only when they get into the stalking that I object.
Where's Donley County?
Vicinity of Lela and McLean, I believe.
We have more than one of those big fancy travel plazas now. I was waiting for you at the one outside Dumas.
Well, that explains it. Maybe on the way back, if I survive the voluptuous horrors of Derby Eve.
My name is NOT Allen Butler, morons.
Then what is your name, Brian Peppers, I mean, coward?
Or are you too scared to say your name, coward?
Which is it, coward?
Chicken, coward?
Does your dad speak to you? What about gramps? Why is he ashamed of his cowardly, long-haired grandcoward?
A guy from [your school here] ends up in the men's room with a guy from [insert rival school here]. First guy finishes and is headed out the door when the second guy says, "At [rival school] we wash our hands before leaving the restroom!" To which the first guy responds, "At [your school] we don't piss on our hands!"
Thanks, I'll be [insert present location] all week!
Jon was embarrassed about knocking the book off the desk.
Yeah he was, but yeah, it was awkward. The reason I thought he might think the guy was a bit too tin foil-y is because he asked him: You do know they have less than 2 years left in office, don't you?
I haven't read the book, but I gathered from that that Jon didn't buy the entire thing as the guy set it out. Just my take on it.
I think was expecting a story about 150,000 mercenaries in Iraq and was disappointed to learn that 150,000 private contractors includes cooks and drivers who make up the vast majority of the 150K.
Last figures I heard for armed security contractors was something in the 20,000s. It still made them the second largest outside force in Iraq.
Last figures I heard for armed security contractors was something in the 20,000s. It still made them the second largest outside force in Iraq.
Yeah, that sounds about right. I don't feel like downloading right now, but Brookings' Iraq Index lays that stuff out 3 times a week.
Wingers consider dissent treason.
They don't want debate.
Terry C
that's another irony. wingers were full of quotes from founding fathers defending dissent against clinton.
What's your gravitar, Tena? It kinda looks like Louise Brooks, but I can't quite make it out...
Don't try to fit in too hard,
I never try to fit in too hard, Zod. I say what I think is true or not true, and then I see what, if anything, someone else might have to say about it. In the end, sometimes I come away still feeling I was right and other times I come away with a changed opinion. I often disagree with things that the most prominent figures here say, sometimes just for the sake of argument or because I feel that the arguments that are not fully based in fact and sound reasoning. I have at times paid a price for that in terms of the trust and goodwill with which I am regarded. However, I would not change my attitudes just to fit in, nor do I feel that that this occasional scorn and distrust ever outweighs the positive things I have taken away from these discussions.
As to my taking up your cause, I did so because I did in fact see you treated unfairly one time, and I had not myself seen any evidence of egregious bad behavior on your part while I was around. But that screed against Eschaton and people like NTodd, Vicki, and WGG that I read at your blog was a pretty bitter cup of bile. If that were the way I felt about these people, you could be sure that I would no longer post here. So I find it odd that you would continue. Also, I will take people's word on it if they maintain that you have in fact said some truly nasty things. I think for my part that regardless of how ill-used I may have felt, I have refrained from engaging in any disparaging ad-hominem attacks. That kind of stuff is for kids. So if you want my trust, FWIW, you will have to explain to me why they were arranted on your part. More than nuff sed now, I think.
Even bleeding-heart libruls have occasional feelings of aggression they need to vent. For myself, some days I enjoy tangling with trolls, most days I just love to try out ways to make them scamper away quickly.
I'm going to go take a shower now, and imagine that Tena's lathering my shapely thighs.
Phila
Well exactly - who would know better who he is?
I found out who he is by looking at fucking blog. He linked to his Associated Content website, which of course has his real name.
Last figures I heard for armed security contractors was something in the 20,000s. It still made them the second largest outside force in Iraq.
Toonscribe | 04.21.07 - 1:13 pm
scahill said between 45 and 50 THOUSAND armed merc in the field in Iraq...
not all USers...a lotta chileans who served under Pinochet, colombians, guatemalans, salvadorans, etc...probably a fair number of africans (angolan esp)...etc..
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So could someone put a name to this author that was on TDS? Or the title of the book?
Thanks!
Last figures I heard for armed security contractors was something in the 20,000s. It still made them the second largest outside force in Iraq.
Still, 20,000 mercenaries that are not governed by any agency. THey have no moral code and no standing orders by any authority except to shoot to kill.
Kittens!
http://www.dailykitten.com/
not all USers...a lotta chileans who served under Pinochet, colombians, guatemalans, salvadorans, etc...probably a fair number of africans (angolan esp)...etc..
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WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 1:16 pm | #
South Africans galore, is what I've heard.
I was more interested in that book The Wild Trees about the giant sequoyahs.
Author: Jeremy Scahill
Book title has Blackwater prominently in it...
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One thing the guy did mention, though, is that Lindsey Graham did ensure that legislation was passed that brings the behavior of these guys under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
You gotta do that. Otherwise, it's just the fucking OK Corral.
Off to teh shower for real. See ya!
I found out who he is by looking at fucking blog. He linked to his Associated Content website, which of course has his real name.
Richard
Brilliant of him!
Not that I'm saying Blackwater isn't a presence and that isn't a problem - it's huuuuuge problem and scary.
Lunch. Back in a few.
I found out who he is by looking at fucking blog. He linked to his Associated Content website, which of course has his real name.
Well is'nt that just really bright of him.
Welp, must mosey to Costco for Nsaid, prescriptions, test-Stips, and such. BBL.
was more interested in that book The Wild Trees about the giant sequoyahs.
Jennife
I'm getting that book - it sounded fascinating.
Off to teh shower for real. See ya!
Don't drop the soap.
I found out who he is by looking at fucking blog. He linked to his Associated Content website, which of course has his real name. Richard
Sorry - I guess some meta humor just doesn't translate into text.
The Blackwater book:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_s...Go.x=13&
Go.y=18
much to do...dogs need walked, tickets (baseball game tonight) to purchase, etc...
laters friendzzzzz
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Author: Jeremy Scahill
Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army.
(Giant Sequoias are teh awesome, but my heart belongs to The Coast Range and Sequoia sempervirens. )
Where the fuck did everyone go?
So all the kewl kids leave and no one has anything pithy to say?
I'm out mowing the lawn, can't you tell?
It does tend to get deserted here around midday on the weekends.
just us i guess
Where the fuck did everyone go?
Outside? It's gorgeous. Dogz are hanging on the deck, the Catz are roaming the meadow, and I'm in my office with the window open, pretending to grade papers.
I'm still here, but I'm not having a good day remembering facts and figures. Must need more coffee.
Well hell, I have no end of things I should be doing, but if everyone leaves, it gets boring and I can't avoid doing the things I should be doing!
I can't avoid doing the things I should be doing!
Well, I should be trying to think up Care Bears premises, but I'd rather pull my teeth out with my fingers.
Feh.
I'm just trying to download the entire disckography of Steve Vai. But it's a slow process dagging those un conforming bytes to my hard drive.
Well, I should be trying to think up Care Bears premises, but I'd rather pull my teeth out with my fingers.
Toonscribe
How about, Care Bears Eat Grizzly Man?
Wow. I'd forgotten how very good The Wall video really was.
We are bored.
Brilliant of him!
He couldn't help himself. He was so proud of the fact that his Associated Content article was "the highest rated article this week" that he had to publicize it on his Shoelimpy blog.
The funny thing was is that the article in question was an anti-Bush polemic.
That ain't no school, man.
That's a damn rock.
And I like to rock!
I will rock your face!
How about, Care Bears Eat Grizzly Man?
I wish. That I could handle.
Care Bears in: Magic Iraqi Pony Farm!?
Cliff hasn't been "all right" since the lunar war.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
Am not. I'm just trying to break your balls.
Care Bears in: Magic Iraqi Pony Farm!?
They could build marshmallow walls around a neighborhood....
You may be onto something here.
Just to be OT for a moment, Subtopia is a great blog that regularly discusses border security, detention, and the rise of "carceral urbanism."
Am not. I'm just trying to break your balls.
YOU!
YES YOU!
I'm STILL waiting!
Why didn't someone tell me to go read Digby today? He's livid about this ghetto thing.
I thought Digny was a she.
You libs need to get my head right!
I went to eat lunch. Now I'm back. (not really, my shade is typing this.)
talk about posting obvious comments...
Robert Frost wrote that Good Fences Make Good Neighbors, but I don't think he had Baghdad or Berlin in mind...
noblejoanie
wasn't he arguing the opposite?
No gravatars or smileys showing up for me now.
*sigh*
Am not. I'm just trying to break your balls.
NTodd is on a mission, and when it's over, he'll never want another.
Digby's a girl.
Smalfish is a bald, eyebrowless rockstar.
No gravatars or smileys showing up for me now.
Jeevans is a menace to society.
I thought Digny was a she.
You libs need to get my head right!
smalfish, armed | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 1:44 pm | #
I believe she is. The post in question is by Tristero, anyhow.
Some of the comments to it really are pretty disturbing.
Smalfish is a bald, eyebrowless rockstar.
How do you knw? You never look up.
Jeevan is our only friend - don't be dissing Jeevan. I wish he'd take up permanent residence here.
I was showing gravatars when Tena asked about them, but now they seem to have gone away. I blame Tena for reminding Haloscan.
jello -- someone earlier posted the end of the R. Frost poem that does indeed say the exact opposite of the fences/good neighbors statement.
Ok, now where is everyone? I come back from lunch and everyone leaves?
But some residents of the neighborhood, which is surrounded by Shiite areas, complained that they had not been consulted in advance about the barrier.
If it'll make them feel any better...it's not like their opinions counted anyway.
I was swapping out the pansies for begonias in the window boxes out front. My onions are fixin' to flower; do I let them or do I pinch them off?
And now I'm seeing gravatars again.
I'm going MAAAAAAAAAADDDDDD!
Ok, now where is everyone? I come back from lunch and everyone leaves?
Tena | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 1:50 pm | #
I'm guessingt that without you being here to tell them what to think, they had nothing left to say.
(Unless you disagree, of course.)
But some residents of the neighborhood, which is surrounded by Shiite areas, complained that they had not been consulted in advance about the barrier.
Ungrateful fucks. People pay good money in this country to be walled in.
I'm going MAAAAAAAAAADDDDDD!
Toonscribe
I'm doing exactly the opposite--seeing gravatars when you don't, not seeing them when you do.
Ooooooweeeeeooooo.....
I'm hungry. And I really need to start drinking if I'm going to make headway on grading. Back in a bit.
[pssst, don't tell Tena, but I'm leaving because she came back]
Ungrateful fucks. People pay good money in this country to be walled in.
Lime Rickey | 04.21.07 - 1:53 pm | #
Damn straight. They should be happy to live in a gated community.
Hullloo again.
Robert Frost wrote that Good Fences Make Good Neighbors, but I don't think he had Baghdad or Berlin in mind...
noblejoanie
wasn't he arguing the opposite?
jello |
Jeez, I already apologized for being too glib earlier : )
Cause if they find you in the back seat trying to pick her up, they're going send you back to mother in a cardboard box.
I was swapping out the pansies for begonias in the window boxes out front. My onions are fixin' to flower; do I let them or do I pinch them off?
wangdangdoodle
Onions are bulbs, therefore, I don't think the flowers affect the continued growth of the onions - though I am not that experienced a gardner.
I would think that unless something goes to seed after blooming, it wouldn't matter. If something is going to go to seed, you pinch the flowers off.
Or maybe there's a gravatar shortage and they're being rationed.
Hi mena 
Tena - did I ever tell you about the yuripean au pair of a friend who found her tulips bulbs in a bin and, not knowing any better, chopped them up into everything they ate until my friend asked what the crunchy continental speciality was?
Tena - did I ever tell you about the yuripean au pair of a friend who found her tulips bulbs in a bin and, not knowing any better, chopped them up into everything they ate until my friend asked what the crunchy continental speciality was?
mena
O my god I love that.
!!!!!!
Or maybe there's a gravatar shortage and they're being rationed.
Upsidasium | 04.21.07 - 1:57 pm | #
Well, there is a war on...
Or maybe there's a gravatar shortage and they're being rationed.
Are you saying gravatars are the new chocolate?
Thanks Tena, that makes sense.
thanks toonscribe. hazy recollection from lit class of teacher's caution.
re the wall.
one of the foreign policy experts who opposed the war (name escapes me) noted the biggest oil reserve in iraq doesn't lie in the south or the north. it lies in baghdad yet untapped.
Does anyone here have a close winger family member that they love more than life itself but despair over? I'm feeling the weight of that a bit today...
Here at casa de Toonscribe, we planted out tomatoes last week. Three different varieties. Our strawberry plants have berries forming on them, and the lime, lemon, tangerine, orange, and peach trees have blossomed and have started fruit. I love spring.
For a flowering plant, you deadhead to make it continue to bloom. With annual herbs, if you don't pinch flowers off, they die - they seed themselves and die.
But like I said - with bulbs, it doesn't matter. They don't seed themselves.
You might ask plantsman when you see him, however = he's the expert.
Jeez, I already apologized for being too glib earlier : )
noblejoanie
oh no i'm sorry. i didn't mean it as a slam. i was struggling with my hazy memory.
So....what was the big advantage of moving to blogger II? I hate to be the one to say, but it doesn't look to be all that much different.
I love spring.
Hear hear.
The bluebonnets are in full bloom, the Primrise is starting to come out, the Indian paintbush has as well. The roses are all abloom. Spring just rocks.
So....what was the big advantage of moving to blogger II? I hate to be the one to say, but it doesn't look to be all that much different.
I find you faith in the blue bar disappointing.
I need to plant more radishes, the first batch is ready. And the French Breakfast ones are growing right up out of the ground!
FOX News - 2 hours ago
MOGADISHU, Somalia - At least 52 people were killed and 120 were wounded in heavy fighting Saturday in the Somali capital, a human rights group and hospital officials said.
Clinton had this shit under control. Now look what's happened.
So....what was the big advantage of moving to blogger II? I hate to be the one to say, but it doesn't look to be all that much different.
mena | 04.21.07 - 2:04 pm | #
It lets you use tags to group posts by theme. It's a bit easier to add and delete blogroll links. Other than that, there's not a hell of a lot of difference. I had a lot of people nagging me for a "nudibranch" tag, though, so it was great from my perspective.
I'm really glad I didn't convert my photoblog. I'd been avoiding posting on it 'cause I didn't want to have to redo all the design changes, like I had to with Bouphonia. But they've obviously fixed the problem in the meantime....
"I hate to be the one to say, but it doesn't look to be all that much different."
--mena
That's because Atrios hate's change and he deleted the blue bar.
Clinton had this shit under control. Now look what's happened.
He did?
It seems to me that war is not the answer.
Does anyone here have a close winger family member that they love more than life itself but despair over? I'm feeling the weight of that a bit today...
Brain Blob
My goddaughter went off to Ohio State, met a College Repug and is now calling herself a conservative. I could pinch her head off.
What is this "blue bar," anyway? The Blogger navigation bar? Or something else?
I have returned from my massage.
I need a nap.
So much to do.
So little motivation.
.
I could pinch her head off.
==
It hurts to see the youth go wrong. Did I tell you I quit cigarettes?
My goddaughter went off to Ohio State, met a College Repug and is now calling herself a conservative.
Maybe the premarital sex is so hot that she can't help herself.
(Kidding aside, that's gruesome. I hope she grows out of it.)
Does anyone here have a close winger family member that they love more than life itself but despair over? I'm feeling the weight of that a bit today...
Just teh wingnut wife and her whole side of the family.
It hurts to see the youth go wrong. Did I tell you I quit cigarettes?
mena |
You're kidding - when?
It lets you use tags to group posts by theme.
==
Phila - I'm so backwards this just makes my eyes glaze over.
Tena, don't want her to go to seed?
(Kidding aside, that's gruesome. I hope she grows out of it.)
Phila |
Her parents between them don't have the sense god gave a goose about politics, so I doubt it.
Pinch her head off. Yeah. Just that comment is helping quell my despair. Just gotta stay strong. And—whooo-wee!—what a laughable time to BECOME a winger. thanks.
Phila - I'm so backwards this just makes my eyes glaze over.
mena | 04.21.07 - 2:11 pm | #
Behold.
Last week.
Good for you, mena.
mena - are you serious?
If you are, you are back me into a corner.
What is this "blue bar," anyway? The Blogger navigation bar? Or something else?
If you mean the bar that has "the search blog flag blog" thingy, then yes.
backing me into a corner...
Her parents between them don't have the sense god gave a goose about politics, so I doubt it.
Tena | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:12 pm | #
Yeesh. Sorry to hear it.
Speaking for myself, a country run by geese sounds downright appealing right now. At least you'd know what to expect from day to day. And they know a fuck of a lot more about "family values" than wingnuts do.
Wingers consider dissent treason.
They don't want debate.
Terry C
that's another irony. wingers were full of quotes from founding fathers defending dissent against clinton.
jello
Well, they're deranged.
We're not dealing with sane people.
Anyone who could STILL support Bush and his war have severe mental problems.
I'm awed, mena.
why? Why do I have to wait 20 goddamn seconds? Why? Wha† is the purpose of this rule?
Behold.
==
Oh my. Look at Glossodoris cruenta, on her back with her legs in the air.
You guys. I've been out to the post office, Trader Joe's, the library, the market and Marshall's already, and now, with my annual bag of Cheetohs am about to watch the afternoon session of the Gonzales hearings.
Whatcha been doing here?
Not consulted in advance about the wall? What do they think this is, a democracy?
Drivin' by:
Tena, i dunno about your god-daughter, but i know the reasons i became and stayed a liberal were: 1) the great sex with hot, willing librul chicks, 2) the easy availability and high quality of the drugs, and 3) the constant drum-beat of high-powered rock'n'roll...
though prob'ly that was just me...
A recent ComPost poll on the Ipus firing have it as favoring the firing 51%
The Faux poll on the same question
had 14% favoring his firing.
I think that pretty much says it all
Oh my. Look at Glossodoris cruenta, on her back with her legs in the air.
mena | 04.21.07 - 2:15 pm | #
She's a right whore, a harlot, a trollop, a cynical bed-hopping firm-breasted Rabelaisian bit of sea food that makes Fanny Hill look like a dead Pope.
Whatcha been doing here?
===
Lathering Phila's thighs.
Yeesh. Sorry to hear it.
And lest y'all get the wrong idea - her parents are not Texans.
He's from Chicago. She's from Kansas.
Whatcha been doing here?
Don't look at me. I just got back from my deep tissue massage.
I feel stoned.
Lathering Phila's thighs.
wangdangdoodle
*ahem* that's my job.
Or maybe there's a gravatar shortage and they're being rationed.
Sacrifices have to be made in a time of war.
I didn't say who was lathering
If you are, you are back me into a corner.
==
Not at all. Smoke one for me, I have nothing against it, my lungs and my wallet are just telling me it's time. (I did go to the clinic this AM, and it's bronchitis) I imagine I'll still have one now and again, but all in all, it's time to run this habit instead of it running me.
Brain Blob, I'm sorry. I wish I had some advice for you.
And what's up with the come-and-go smilies?
And lest y'all get the wrong idea - her parents are not Texans.
He's from Chicago. She's from Kansas.
Tena | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:17 pm | #
It's funny. I've been driving through all these states this week...I have not seen a single pro-Bush or pro-war bumper sticker. Not one. There've been fewer and fewer over the years, but this is the first time I've seen none at all.
*ahem* that's my job.
Tena | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:17 pm | #
Just don't use me as a wishbone, is all I ask!
OK, out to the back to bust some more sod. Tomatoes absolutely must get in the ground today.
My goddaughters, nieces and nephews are so with the program they keep me in line. What, Auntie? You haven't illegally cooked and fed hundreds of homeless people downtown today? God I love it. Maybe Tena's godaughter will come under the influence of good ideas, an interesting prof, or something... Sex ain't the only thng that can be found at college.
She's a right whore, a harlot, a trollop, a cynical bed-hopping firm-breasted Rabelaisian bit of sea food that makes Fanny Hill look like a dead Pope.
==
She's a right slapper, is that one!
It's funny. I've been driving through all these states this week...I have not seen a single pro-Bush or pro-war bumper sticker. Not one. There've been fewer and fewer over the years, but this is the first time I've seen none at all.
Phila
I don't see that many here any more. And I haven't seen one yellow goddamn car magnet ribbon since I was up in the Tacoma area.
Just don't use me as a wishbone, is all I ask!
Phila
Don't be silly - it's lather, rinse, repeat.
Phila, that's wonderful. Now, whenever I feel sad or depressed, I can go look at all the nudibranches at once. Glory be, I love that.
She's a right whore, a harlot, a trollop, a cynical bed-hopping firm-breasted Rabelaisian bit of sea food that makes Fanny Hill look like a dead Pope.
please, sir, may i have another?
==
totally off topic
We're packing up and have come across so much stuff that I haven't seen in years. Like my 1968 passport. Damn, I was hot. Wish I knew it back then.
Mr. QL had black hair and was tall and lanky. Looked a bit like NTodd. Maybe that's why there is a soft spot in my heart N.
And I haven't seen one yellow goddamn car magnet ribbon since I was up in the Tacoma area.
==
Apparently, this is where they all come to die. *sigh*
Later. Must. nap.
Apparently, this is where they all come to die. *sigh*
mena'
The national naval base has moved up to Bremerton from California - that's about what I'd expect with many military in the area.
Apparently, this is where they all come to die. *sigh*
mena | 04.21.07 - 2:24 pm | #
What do you have against Chinese light manufacturing?
She's a right whore, a harlot, a trollop, a cynical bed-hopping firm-breasted Rabelaisian bit of sea food that makes Fanny Hill look like a dead Pope.
Phila
I love this place.
Damn, I was hot.
Still are, I'm guessing.
mena, did you use patches? gum?
I still see a couple of W stickers and support the troops magnets here in the San Fernando Valley, but they have become exceedingly scarce. Never saw that many pro-W stickers to begin with, but support the troops magnets were legion. Now I see maybe 1 a day -- if that.
It's funny. I've been driving through all these states this week...I have not seen a single pro-Bush or pro-war bumper sticker. Not one. There've been fewer and fewer over the years, but this is the first time I've seen none at all.
COme to my neck o th woods.
Speaking of bumperstickers, it's time for me to brave a heavily congested I-64. G'night, all.
Damn, I was hot. Wish I knew it back then.
==
My theory is that the world would simply be too unstable if all of us realized how fucking hot we were when we were young.
She's a right whore, a harlot, a trollop, a cynical bed-hopping firm-breasted Rabelaisian bit of sea food that makes Fanny Hill look like a dead Pope.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
What do you have against Chinese light manufacturing?
Melomine; It's what's for dinner!
I still see a couple of W stickers and support the troops magnets here in the San Fernando Valley, but they have become exceedingly scarce. Never saw that many pro-W stickers to begin with, but support the troops magnets were legion. Now I see maybe 1 a day -- if that.
Toonscribe
I still see the occasional red white a blue ribbon. I just don't see the yellow - anywhere here.
I do see an occasional W sticker and I usually take my life in my hands to get ahead of whoever has it on their car in order to make them eat my "Impeach Bush" sticker.
My theory is that the world would simply be too unstable if all of us realized how fucking hot we were when we were young.
mena | 04.21.07 - 2:28 pm | #
I don't know about being "hot," but it's probably just as well that I didn't develop any self-confidence 'til my early thirties.
Truly I see many more Kerry stickers than W ovals in this godforsaken red county.
mena, did you use patches? gum?
==
Nothing. I'm not stopping with the weed, either.
Still here...waiting for the iron to get hot.
I don't know about being "hot," but it's probably just as well that I didn't develop any self-confidence 'til my early thirties.
Phila
Same here.
I do see an occasional W sticker and I usually take my life in my hands to get ahead of whoever has it on their car in order to make them eat my "Impeach Bush" sticker.
==
I love you.
Speaking of bumperstickers, it's time for me to brave a heavily congested I-64. G'night, all.
Saturday afternoon traffic is the worst of the week. You get all the crazies out of the office who think they're Jeff Gordon or something. Or you get all the shoe shopper who insist on making everyone wait while they decide weather to make that turn into the shopping center.
I really despise saturdays traffic.
All the yellow ones got sprayed off at the car wash. They're on the door to the office between the bays.
Nothing. I'm not stopping with the weed, either.
mena
Whew. I was half afraid to ask.
That's how I cut down to 10 cigs a day for 4 months.
I'm holding heavy at the moment and I play with the idea of doing it again - especially in light of this new development.
toonscribe, that's why a conversion now seems odd.
Saturday afternoon traffic is the worst of the week. You get all the crazies out of the office who think they're Jeff Gordon or something.
I'm in Louisville, and today is the pre-Derby airshow and fireworks display attended by almost a million people. A ten-minute drive is expected to take several hours.
Saturday afternoon traffic is the worst of the week. You get all the crazies out of the office who think they're Jeff Gordon or something. Or you get all the shoe shopper who insist on making everyone wait while they decide weather to make that turn into the shopping center.
I really despise saturdays traffic.
smalfish, armed
Jesus, smalfish - I don't know what the hell the problem was last week, but everyone in Dallas went completely fucking nuts the minute they got in their cars!!!!!
(I know I"m using their for the singular - I know that's a pet peeve. I'm sorry - it just works.)
I still see the occasional red white a blue ribbon. I just don't see the yellow - anywhere here.
Here in the 'burbs I see all the jingoistic stickers we;ve all grown to love and admire. Especially the terrorist hunting license and the best of the best, the liberal hunting license.
Singular Their Amnesty Day
I know I"m using their for the singular - I know that's a pet peeve. I'm sorry - it just works.)
==
It does. People need to let that go.
I do see an occasional W sticker and I usually take my life in my hands to get ahead of whoever has it on their car in order to make them eat my "Impeach Bush" sticker.
My favorite personalized plate:
86 43
I recall realizing in my youth that my physical attractiveness, or lack of same, had little if anything to do with why the ladies never seemed to be lined up outside my door...
Truly I see many more Kerry stickers than W ovals in this godforsaken red county.
Brain Blob
There are many cars in my town that still have their "Kerry-Edwards" stickers on their bumpers.
One neighbor has has a "Kerry-Edwards" sign in a porch window.
There is still ONE idiot family, though, who seem to think they're being "cool" or "rebellious" by leaving their Bush-Cheney 04 sticker in the back window of their car.
SOME people will DIE stupid, I fear.
Hello moonbats
loving Doctor Who at the moment.
Sorry -
One neighbor STILL has a "Kerry-Edwards" sign in a porch window.
It does. People need to let that go.
mena
I wissh they would - I think it's moved into mainstream language and will end up being correct for that reason. Things are only correct because we agree they stand for what they stand for. We know what is meant - so - there ya go.
We still have some ribbons and w stickers on the cars around here, although probably down 90%. And the ones I do see are terribly faded. No one seems to have bought one in the last two years. I don't even know if they are available in the stores anymore. I haven't seen any.
F0or anyone still believing that the opinion of the Murkin people means anything to anyoje but themselves, i offer you this heartening piece of news (from MSNBC, but...):
The US Is NOT Pulling Out of Iraq
Analysis: U.S. troop ‘surge’ looking long-term
Pentagon prepares to maintain military forces in Iraq, possibly through ’08
Here in the 'burbs I see all the jingoistic stickers we;ve all grown to love and admire. Especially the terrorist hunting license and the best of the best, the liberal hunting license.
smalfish, armed
More big talk from cowards.
One neighbor STILL has a "Kerry-Edwards" sign in a porch window.
Terry C
We had ours in the garage until recently. Mr. Tena finally threw it away. He only let me keep my giant "Had Enough= Vote Democratic" banner up for the rest of the week after we won - he didn't want to look like a bad sport. I have no problem looking like one in this case. I was driving up and down the streets yelling as I went past known Repugs: "You lost!"
Schadenfreude isn't pretty. But it sure feels good.
Woody - I really liked 'rogue's choler', but I have to say, 'tokin' librul' is pretty darn you.
I don't even know if they are available in the stores anymore. I haven't seen any.
mer
I have. No one is buying them though.
I've been seeing a lot of the "Support the Troops - Bring them Home" ribbons lately.
Still are, I'm guessing.
Phila
For an old broad!
Seriously, I wasn't fishing for compliments. It's just that at 18 all I could was what was wrong. I know I had a teensy, teensy belly and obsessed over it like crazy. I think it's like that for most young women.
I do think that in some cases the removal of 90% of the yellow magnets—I see that here, too—has to do with the sheepishness over having done only the magnet toward the war effort. Here there's no less support of the troops but I have anecdotes about people being sickened by their own magnet display, if I may use the their in the plural capacity.
Things are only correct because we agree they stand for what they stand for. We know what is meant - so - there ya go.
Afuckingmen. Language evolves, damn it, and it's a collective enterprise.
we won - he didn't want to look like a bad sport. I have no problem looking like one in this case. I was driving up and down the streets yelling as I went past known Repugs: "You lost!"
Schadenfreude isn't pretty. But it sure feels good.
Tena
Damn straight!
More big talk from cowards.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 04.21.07 - 2:39 pm
mebbe; mebbe not...
i do not underestimate the frustrations to which these single-(brain-)-celled morons are heir or the predations of which i am certain they are capable...
.
Speaking of driving in Wingnutistan, I had a terrifying experience last week in the Texas panhandle. I was driving at about 9PM, and I saw a giant funnel cloud ahead and to my left. It looked to be about two miles away, and absolutely MASSIVE.
It turned out to be an optical illusion...the shadow of a giant spotlighted cross against the cloud cover.
keep my giant "Had Enough= Vote Democratic" banner up for the rest of the week after we won
That election in Farmers Branch I told you about is really heating up. Almost evey house in FB has a yard sign (never seen so many in one town before). You can tell who is white and who is hipanic by the signs in the yards. It's unbelievable. I think this is an election for the ages.
More big talk from cowards.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 04.21.07 - 2:39 pm
mebbe; mebbe not...
i do not underestimate the frustrations to which these single-(brain-)-celled morons are heir or the predations of which i am certain they are capable...
.
WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul
Naw - they're blowhards.
chinese "support the troops" magnets are still seriously in evidence around ABQ; also stickers with the legend: United We Stand...
Afuckingmen. Language evolves, damn it, and it's a collective enterprise.
NTodd Kaczynski
Hey thanks!
The grammar mavens around here really don't agree with this, I don't think.
There are many cars in my town that still have their "Kerry-Edwards" stickers on their bumpers.
I know I do!
One neighbor has has a "Kerry-Edwards" sign in a porch window.
We had ours up until this past Christmas, when I finally replaced it with Santa Claus window stickers.
WG'sGuitar, you're probably right as of today and tomorrow. All we can hope for is that the congress critters stick to their guns and start defunding the war. If the corporations want to send their employees in to defend their interests, that's their business, at least the troops will begin to come home.
Individualism and the left-right split
More big talk from cowards.
Terry C -
Yeah it is - they don't get to do whatever the fuck anymore.
Congress is in the way now. Maybe not always to the extent we'd like, but personally I know I feel a lot goddamn better.
stickers with the legend: United We Stand...
On the neck of naked Iraqis.
Are we living in a fucking cartoon?
This is just getting to fucking ridiculous to even believe.
chinese "support the troops" magnets are still seriously in evidence around ABQ; also stickers with the legend: United We Stand...
WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:43 pm | #
I didn't see any, but I was probably too busy stuffing myself with sopapillas...
Phila - as if finding yourself in the Panhandle isn't terrifying enough!
Sorry - on the NECKS of naked Iraqis.
the shadow of a giant spotlighted cross against the cloud cover.
Phila | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:42 pm
crucifixion-land in Groom...,
didja eat at the immaculate conception diner?
Schadenfreude: it's not just for breakfast anymore...
May I join you, ma'am?
I didn't see any, but I was probably too busy stuffing myself with sopapillas...
Phila | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:45 pm
were you here last week and dint call?
sumbitch?
crucifixion-land in Groom...,
didja eat at the immaculate conception diner?
WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:45 pm | #
'Fraid not. But last time I was through, I got some great hellfire and brimstone pamphlets in Vega.
keep my giant "Had Enough= Vote Democratic" banner up for the rest of the week after we won
That election in Farmers Branch I told you about is really heating up. Almost evey house in FB has a yard sign (never seen so many in one town before). You can tell who is white and who is hipanic by the signs in the yards. It's unbelievable. I think this is an election for the ages.
smalfish, armed
Wait - do you remember the big black-white election in Carrollton several years ago? Same damn kind of thing. But you're right - there are more hispanics here than any other ethnic groups and that election is historic. I'm really curious to see what happens.
G*O*R*E* '08
is the only bumper sticker I have....
Well, and the one that reads "War is the failure of imagination." And "Impeach Bush"
And "Beware of the Historian".
.
stickers with the legend: United We Stand...
Good ol Lowes, they're the ones who were giving them out, IIRC.
I have a hand-lettered sign on the front of my house that announces:
"Bush Lies!"
were you here last week and dint call?
sumbitch?
WG'sGuitar, tokin' librul | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:46 pm | #
Went through very, very quickly...was in town long enough to eat and refuel, and barely had time for that...
Otherwise...
Grammar's fun to be pedantic about precisely because it's so hard to take really seriously...
It turned out to be an optical illusion...the shadow of a giant spotlighted cross against the cloud cover.
Phila |
Lucky you! I've been driving through the panhandle more than once and seen an actual huge tornado.
"Beware of the Historian".
==
Sunshiny sheets.
Millions of Iraqis have been forced to leave their homes because of the continuing violence in the country. Many of them have fled to Damascus where the Syrian government is asking why the Americans and the British are not doing more to ease the refugee problem.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/progr...ent/
6575755.stm
Lucky you! I've been driving through the panhandle more than once and seen an actual huge tornado.
Tena | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:48 pm | #
I'd really like to see one, if I could have a guarantee that it was moving away from me...
I wouldn't be surprised to see violence. Their going down and some will have to prove their manhood by taking some liberals down with them. It's what happens when the discussion is framed that you're either with us or against the United States of America.
Out for real. G'night!
The grammar mavens around here really don't agree with this, I don't think.
They can suck my cock, then read my senior thesis about idiom, metaphor and linguistic evolution.
Raised by otherwise indolent grammar mavens, the "their" sticks out for me. That's all; it's as though I hear an extra high frequency that I wish was ought of my range. I know that language must change. There's been no solution other than their to emerge out of the his/her problem.
Then there's the there/their. As I get older, I'm constantly replacing one homonym for another in my writing. I think that homonyms are the first to go...
Ought=out. God, did I ever make my point.
They can suck my cock, then read my senior thesis about idiom, metaphor and linguistic evolution.
NTodd Kaczynski | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 2:51 pm | #
i think forcing them to read the thesis is a bit harsh.
"Tancredoism is the bees knees"-43
blerb
I didn't ask for or need you to "back me up". I just found it interesting that you slowly moved to agreement to the regular crowd in here, lest they rip you to shreds as well. I'm not looking for anyone's trust or pity (Tena), and quite frankly the reasons I decided to try and post in here again are my own. And please, I don't need the definition of friendship from you Tena. You have no idea who I am or what I do, so stick your sorry up your ass.
You do what you want. But as for me, when I'm verbally attacked and called nasty names, I will respond with my own observations as to just how childish and petty a lot of the "Atriots" can be. So take that for what it's worth.
nuff said.
You do what you want. But as for me, when I'm verbally attacked and called nasty names, I will respond with my own observations as to just how childish and petty a lot of the "Atriots" can be. So take that for what it's worth.
nuff said.
General Zod
You get back what you put in.
You come here with an attitude; why do you expect the people here to sit there and take it?
I haven't smoked for ages, and I can only recall a few times when I actually enjoyed it, but Christ, what enjoyment.
Now that i'm a farmer, it pisses me off even more that I can't periodically use the fruits of my labor to blow the top of my head off.
I don't smoke, and it's not by choice.It's because the feds will take my property if I behave in the way the founders intended. So I'm a sadass drunk instead.
Too bad they can't do that in NYC, erecting a wall between The Donald and Rosie.
Homer www.altara.blogspot.com
You come here with an attitude; why do you expect the people here to sit there and take it?
Terry C - End Bush's War Now!
You mean like the "attitude I had at the start of this post? Or the one I had when I was called Nazi, Zionist, etc? Please.
When you people are called on the way you treat this site as your personal club, you get offended. And as far as throwing insults and slurs, the regulars in here do that quite well. So spare me your "leave your attitude outside" logic. The moral of this story is if you want to post in here you better be ready to bow down and kiss the regular's asses, often and hard.
Nomination for Wanker of the Day: Doug Schoen, "one of the political consultants who advised President Clinton during the government shutdown", author, "The Power of the Vote."
From the Boston Globe, http://www.boston.com/news/globe..._for_democrats/
"In short, Democrats would do well to compromise. If that means accepting a "clean" supplemental funding bill, so be it....Attempting to usurp the powers of the commander of the chief -- or risking the charge that Democrats have abandoned troops in the field -- is one of the few ways the party could jeopardize its seemingly impregnable position. The best chance to end the war is to make sure the next president is a Democrat."
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