I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Holy shit!
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Vandy wins!
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Whoo-hooo!
(I hate college football, btw)
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Hello?
racymind
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Really, I can't chat. I couldn't let you have the home run either
Decided to refresh just a bit late.
Oh well. I've had my share of frists and homers!
Sarah Palin is saying Barack Obama supports domestic terrorism.
Good evening!
yay!
I just sent MoveOn.org a photo of my Titans hat with my Obama pins. They asked for it.
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More lies from Little Miss Wingnut.
Sarah Palin is saying Barack Obama supports domestic terrorism.
Yet Sarah Palin is a member of the party that has supported domestic terrorism for the last eight years.
Keep the trolls locked in the basement
Hey Moe! Whoob Whoob Whoob!
Yet Sarah Palin is a member of the party that has supported domestic terrorism for the last eight years.
And her hubby belonged to a political party that engages in treason.
It's time like these...
...you really are glad you cut the cable connection.
If in this day and age of the internet, if Sarah believes people can't corroborate her speeches...
...this only keeps getting easier and easier until November 4th.
I'm hardly working.
So, between this game and the debate, Tuesday, millions of bux are flowing, here.
I needs me some.
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i have friends at vandy who are very happy now.
Little Miss Wingnut - medley on Axis: Bold as Love?
Thank you echidne!
Whoob Whoob Whoob!
Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk
Hi kids. Back from my homecoming weekend event. Suit is off, jeans are on. And I'm freshly showered, for that fresh clean smell!
Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk
Deacon Blues
Oh? A wiseguy?
Hey Jeffradude!
i have friends at vandy who are very happy now.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
They said it was the first time Vanderbilt beat Auburn in 53 years. That's a bit of a dry spell.
Oh? A wiseguy?
Why I oughta....
Sarah Palin has lost the remnants of what she would have once called her mind...
(holding hand vertically in front of nose)
Ali: Hey Jeffradude!
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Why I oughta....
Deacon Blues
Homer, explaining to the dog and cat: "Moe is their leader."
Sarah Palin is saying Barack Obama supports domestic terrorism.
Salin Palin is supporting crime by being a corrupt politician.
Asked why, if Palin supported the bill, one of her administration's officials would speak against it, Lynn demurred. "We don't all work in lockstep here," he said. "People have different opinions," he added.
yeah, that's what i've heard about palin's governing style.
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has been a strong supporter of Sudan divestment efforts, and has urged Americans to liquidate their holdings in companies who do business there. He was criticized for that position when it was revealed in May his wife Cindy held $2 million in investment funds owning shares of Sudan-linked companies. She sold those holdings following a reporter's inquiries.
damned liberal media!
Yet the mindless drones that are the wingnuts once again refuse to accept that Palin has been caught in yet another lie...one she broached and imagined no one would check on, the Sudan investments story.
She's counting on indoctrination in INGSOC to carry the day.
Sarah Palin is saying Barack Obama supports domestic terrorism.
Brian | 10.04.08 - 9:17 pm | #
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Sarah Palin also says shes qualified to be vice president, so your point is?
Sarah Palin has earned the sobriquets: tax-evader, serial-liar, potential-criminal, and sociopath. Not bad for her month in the spotlight, eh?
Sarah Palin is a member of the party that has supported domestic terrorism for the last eight years
The GOP opposes everything America is SUPPOSED to be about.
Sarah Palin is saying Barack Obama supports domestic terrorism.
The more you tighten your grip, governor, the more systems slip through your hand.
Ps: I hate driving at night, and I especially hate night emergency service calls. Even with the overtime pay.
Repost...
Where did all of the brainwashed trolls go?
Allen Butler has evidently left the building.
It's too bad, because I just dug this up...
http://media.www.thebatt.com/med...ns-
539914.shtml
He was Class of 2004.
He was a contemporary of George "official censor of NASA global warming reports" Deutsch at Texas A&M.
Small world, ain't it? It would be pretty funny if it turned out they were roommates.
my daughter has friends at auburn who will not be so happy.
it's odd, isn't it? that i have friends at one college and my daughter has friends at the other?
Not bad for her month in the spotlight, eh?
"Well, ya know, I've only been at this for five weeks!"
Sarah Palin is saying Barack Obama supports domestic terrorism
If SHE says something, it's bullshit.
The Palin Rule.
The more you tighten your grip, governor, the more systems slip through your hand.
No flirting!
They said it was the first time Vanderbilt beat Auburn in 53 years. That's a bit of a dry spell.
Isn't Vandy undefeated this season?
Isn't this another sign of the Apocalypse?
Sarah is campaigning in Nebraska on Sunday, after California today. Nebraska hasn't voted Dem since 1592, when Chief Omaha squeaked out a narrow victory over Chief Bush Blows Really Bad.
Allen Butler has evidently left the building.
It will be back.
As another of its sockpuppets.
ok, that's it for me tonight.
bye.
Failin' Palin is as stupid as Dan Quayle, only less principled, and more ambitious..
"Well, ya know, I've only been at this for five weeks!"
Tlazolteotl, CCd | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 9:24 pm | #
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And that my friends is the line that pushed thousands of swing voters towards Barack Obama!
The more you tighten your grip, governor, the more systems slip through your hand.
/Star Wars pedantic geek mode
"the more star systems slip through your fingers".
Nebraska hasn't voted Dem since 1592, when Chief Omaha squeaked out a narrow victory over Chief Bush Blows Really Bad.
Franklin Furter III, H.D.
Isn't Vandy undefeated this season?
Yes.
Isn't this another sign of the Apocalypse?
If the Cubs win, yes.
(I dunno that the Cubs are still in the hunt, actually)
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Sarah Palin is saying Barack Obama supports domestic terrorism.
She also says that Creationism is science, that humans walked with dinosaurs, and that she and McCain represent change.
It will be back.
Here already I think, given the presence of "Brian".
Um - has Palin campaigned in ARIZONA?????
good night, dirk.
sweet whiskey dreams.
Has the Chinese Troll eased off?
I saw that on NBC news tonight, I believe. Yea, I'm pretty sure Lester Holt grabbed that soundbite.
It's the same ol' story about Barack's casual acquaintance with some radical, who both had been doing something for the same organization, which is irrelevant.
If the organization had a radical mission that would be one thing, but how can anybody place a blame on somebody who had just belonged to same organization as somebody else, who was the controversy in the first place?
It's like Sarah Palin has gone nuts or something. She knows the media smoothed over all those serious factual errors she made. I think it's encouraging her to get worse.
She doesn't realize she's just catching a break.
The Obama campaign labeled it as desperation. It looks insane to me. I think she's losing it.
Humans still walk with dinosaurs. She has walked side by side with McCain.
Evening, good people.
I have Bonus Critter Blogging up.
There.
I can't imagine being dead-threaded this time.
She also says that Creationism is science, that humans walked with dinosaurs, and that she and McCain represent change.
NTodd, Famous Person
And that abstinence works,
Um - has Palin campaigned in ARIZONA?????
GWPDA, Canadensis | 10.04.08 - 9:27 pm | #
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No but she did attend debate class there, it really paid off don't you think?
That moose abuser had better not show her face in these parts. I'd fact check her ass so fast she wouldn't have time to wink.
Later tonight SciFi has "NYC:Tornado Terror". I don't expect to make it.
In just more than two hours, I may need you to console me.
But if she does it and winks, it's at me, mofos.
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McCain 52 Obama 43 in (drum roll) Texas! Why can't McCain lock up Texas???
McStain is one of the few people older than Simels.
I have Bonus Critter Blogging up.
Oh the huge manatee!
The tag line on McBombBomb's ads are "A Change Is Coming."
Dude you're not ready for the change that's coming.
He was Class of 2004.
Well I'll be damned.
Teh Buttle graduated the same year my daughter did.
Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist
http://
tpmelectioncentral.talkin...amas_patrio.php
If Palin is going to say this, it is now perfectly legitimate to point out that she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years.
As you already know, the group is the Alaska Independence Party, which sees as its ultimate goal seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska.
And though Sarah Palin herself was apparently not a member of this group, there's no doubt that she repeatedly courted this secessionist organization over the years. In 1994, Palin attended the group's annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News' Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.
The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler. Here's what he had to say in a 1991 interview, only a few years before Palin attended its convention: "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."
He also said this: "And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."
Vogler has also said: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
And that abstinence works,
To be fair. Abstinence works. No fuck no baby.
from below:
understandably so.
remember the taster's choice commercials? the little romance soap opera series, the guy kept showing up to share a cup of taster's choice out of nowhere?
i was in an improv group at the time, we did a whole "coffee stalker" series with that. it ended in pools of blood.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 8:35 pm |
The male 'lead' in those commercials was Anthony Head, who also played Giles in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. So the blood was appropriate.
And that abstinence works
I give you as proof, Bristol Palin, expectant 17 year old mother.
This one goes out to Sarah Palin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...h?
v=wNRsIFKLDBk
plantsman: Later tonight SciFi has "NYC:Tornado Terror". I don't expect to make it.
Dood, you're on the other side of the continent!
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She also says that Creationism is science, that humans walked with dinosaurs, and that she and McCain represent change.
There you go.
I don't miss cable tv.
China must be wonderfully proud of her America-hating trolls.
McCain 52 Obama 43 in (drum roll) Texas! Why can't McCain lock up Texas???
Deacon Blues | 10.04.08 - 9:29 pm |
Dallas county went blue some time ago and Travis (Austin) is ultramarine.
The Titanic is about to hit an iceberg on TNT. Nobody could have predicted...
Um - has Palin campaigned in ARIZONA?????
No real candidate loves us enough to campaign up here. (*sniff*) We get Ralph Freaking Nader tomorrow night (*shiver*)
The Paper Of Record really pisses me off sometimes.
Humans still walk with dinosaurs.
I have parrots, living dinosaurs. I do walk with them, though I have to say the kind of waddle.
The tag line on McBombBomb's ads are "A Change Is Coming."
Dude you're not ready for the change that's coming.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 9:29 pm | #
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LMAO!
National humiliation and then carted off to an old folks home where he will live off taxpayer supported healthcare and pension?
Mo thread. Less money.
If this was to happen in Australia the International Monetary Fund would be hammering at the door of the Reserve Bank. But Australia does not have a President's Working Group on Financial Markets, commonly known as the Plunge Protection Team, that allows the US Government to prop up the markets by buying shares. But to imagine the IMF investigating the US financial system is unthinkable, or was. But, at the weekend, Der Spiegel reported that the IMF would conduct a full investigation into virtually every aspect of it.
Der Spiegel wrote that the IMF had "informed" Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke of plans that would have been unheard of in the past: a general examination of the US financial system. The IMF's board of directors has ruled that a so-called Financial Sector Assessment Program is to be carried out in the US.
This, Der Spiegel wrote, "is nothing less than an X-ray of the entire US financial system", adding that "no Fed chief in US history has been forced to submit to the kind of humiliation that Ben Bernanke is facing".
The fact that the IMF is knocking on the very doors of its parents and waving legal papers about who lost the house, the car and the kids will, if the past is anything to go by, be buried in the US by pom-pom waving on CNBC telling all what a great time it is to buy.
http://business.theage.com.au/bu...?
page=fullpage#
And that abstinence works,
To be fair. Abstinence works. No fuck no baby.
smalfish
True - I SHOULD have said that she believes teenagers will readily accept abstinence as normal.
Why does Odumbo hang out with anti american terrorist likes Ayres?
Gromit, if you were a REAL Librul, you'd LOVE Nadir-- or so I've been told.
McStain is one of the few people older than Simels.
therealhellkitty
I thought they called those fossils..
Brian!?! Brian Hardig??
How Todd Palin's idol, Joe Vogler, died...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Vogler
Vogler disappeared under suspicious circumstances in May 1993.[4] Convicted thief Manfried West confessed to having murdered Vogler the following year in what he described as a plastic explosives sale gone bad. [4] Vogler's remains were discovered in a gravel pit east of Fairbanks in October 1994 following an anonymous tip.[4] They had been wrapped in a blue tarp secured with duct tape and were identified through fingerprint analysis.[4]
Vogler was buried in Dawson City, Yukon Territory, Canada, fulfulling his wish that he not be buried under the American flag. His second wife, Doris, who died of cancer in January 1992, is buried next to him.
McCain 52 Obama 43 in (drum roll) Texas! Why can't McCain lock up Texas???
I was down in the intercity Dallas yesterday, and there is no way the fucker takes this city. Obama/democrat signs everywhere.
pud. Heh.
Why does pud keep acting like he has a brain?
Humans still walk with dinosaurs.
Well, Palin is campaigning with McCain
If only Steve were here....
I just watched "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains," and was somewhat irked.
The Titanic is about to hit an iceberg on TNT. Nobody could have predicted...
As I stood in line at the theater to see this movie, I took great delight and announcing, in a loud voice, that the ship sinks towards the end.
Franklin Furter III, H.D. | 10.04.08 - 9:25 pm |
can i just say thanks for the earworm everytime i see your nym:
Frank-N-Furter, it's all over
Your mission is a failure
Your lifestyle's too extreme
I'm your new commander
You now are my prisoner
We return to Transylvania
Prepare the transit beam
Well, no. Abstinence works. That is almost a tautology. The sex-education doctrine of "Abstinence Only" does not achieve the desired result of abstinence in practice. It is therefore the sex-education doctrine that doesn't work. Now I'll just go ahead and put out the coke(s) for whomever beat me to this observation. 
I just watched "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains," and was somewhat irked.
Jay C. | 10.04.08 - 9:33 pm | #
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Was that about puds family?
Obama leads in Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, Colorado, and Virginia. Tied in North Carolina. One point behind in Missouri, two points behind in Indiana. Indiana!!!!
Would have to carry Houston and San Antonio which are huge ass cities. Austin is relatively tiny. Is the power back on Houston yet? Obama might get more votes there after a little dose of FEMA care.
DeaconBlue---nice point above. I'm not gonna hold my breath for the headlines blaring "why can't McCain close the deal," or "why is McCain struggling" in the states he's "supposed" to be dominating.
They were told to leave:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/...Ike.Lives.Lost/
I have parrots, living dinosaurs. I do walk with them, though I have to say the kind of waddle.
They're really descendants of dinosaurs, just like we're not really Homo erectus.
Why does pud keep acting like he has a brain?
Uncle Fester Lurks | 10.04.08 - 9:33 pm | #
when did that happen? I must have missed it.
The Titanic is about to hit an iceberg on TNT. Nobody could have predicted...
Why didn't they all just crawl out onto the iceberg?
I had a wicked crush on Diane Lane in The Fabulous Stains when they used to show that movie on Night Flight.
Isn't Vandy undefeated this season?
Yes.
Isn't this another sign of the Apocalypse?
If the Cubs win, yes.
(I dunno that the Cubs are still in the hunt, actually)
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 9:26 pm
The Vancouver Canucks are 6-0. Of course, it's still preseason.
I've started to listen to the oldies but goodies radio...
I'm so disgusted at the sniping from Clear Channel affiliates...I completely ignore the dial.
Seriously.
It's only going to get worse in the next month.
Nothing but low blow below-the-belt sucker puches and immature personal insults. It's not even worth my time to listen to one rock and roll song until November 5th.
It's like hearing the word "Brian" on Family Guy over and over...until they think they've gotten a rise out of you.
It's FM, right?! (Who gives a shit.)
I had a wicked crush on Diane Lane in The Fabulous Stains when they used to show that movie on Night Flight.
The Kenosha Kid
She shows some sideboob in the shower with Ray Winstone!
They're really descendants of dinosaurs, just like we're not really Homo erectus.
What a gaii statement.
we're not really Homo erectus.
It always comes back to sex...
They're really descendants of dinosaurs, just like we're not really Homo erectus.
When I interact with my birds, I can't help it, I'm thinking "T-Rex"
WIth an Obama landslide all but predicted four weeks out, I'm a bit skittish about what the Bushies have on tap.
They cannot let grownups take the reins. All their dirty little secrets will spill out in less than eight years of Democratic rule.
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Why didn't they all just crawl out onto the iceberg?
Strangely, that thought just crossed my mind. At least in this movie, the ship continues forward motion after it hits the iceberg.
John Kerry came through here in '04. I got to work the event for nothing, not even a handshake but I did get to see him and his terrific wife.
"is nothing less than an X-ray of the entire US financial system",
Whoa. Who would have ever thought this country would need an audit? Will it be allowed?
WIth an Obama landslide all but predicted four weeks out, I'm a bit skittish about what the Bushies have on tap.
May I direction your attention to what's been happening on Wall Street.
It's just a jump to the left
And then a step to the right
With your hands on your hips
You bring your knees in tight
But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane,
Let's do the Time Warp again!
.........overheard being sung by staffers at McCain HQ longing for the moment immediately following Palin's conv. speach.
To be fair. Abstinence works. No fuck no baby.
smalfish
To work, abstinence has to happen, it's guaranteeing that it happens that fails and no one has ever been able to guarantee it. Every STD and unplanned pregnancy are a 100% failure of abstinence in exactly the same way that condoms sometimes fail. Only sometimes they're used and work during the failure of abstinence. It can be looked at that way too.
I've got the strongest feeling that promoting frottage and masturbation would have a far higher success rate than abstinence.
Going to take a pill and go to bed. Hoping to feel nothing.
Homo erectus
As Howard Stern might say, "SUE -EEEE!!"
When I interact with my birds, I can't help it, I'm thinking "T-Rex"
You might want to leave the house. Well, at least you're not thinking "velociraptor"...
Mrs. Blues is thoroughly convinced that I was on the Titanic in an earlier incarnation. I think I just like the story. 
answer the question. Ayres is a terrorist. If supporting terrorists makes you a terrorist, then so is Obama. And we know Obama supports Ayres, so...
If they marketed abstinence only as "Frottage For Freedom" or something...
And we know Obama supports Ayres, so...
pud | 10.04.08 - 9:39 pm | #
Ayers is not a terrorist. Bush is a terrorist. Wake up, asshole.
WIth an Obama landslide all but predicted four weeks out, I'm a bit skittish about what the Bushies have on tap.
I think we're in for an dead Osama appearance very soon.
Going to take a pill and go to bed. Hoping to feel nothing.
Anthony McCarthy | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 9:38 pm | #
anotehr liberal sleeping alone...
They cannot let grownups take the reins. All their dirty little secrets will spill out in less than eight years of Democratic rule.
They just stole $700 billion and Tipsy McStagger is already signing pardon papers for release January 19.
They don't give a fuck beyond that.
They were told to leave:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/...Ike.Lives.Lost/
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
So sad, Terry.
anotehr liberal sleeping alone...
pud | 10.04.08 - 9:40 pm | #
lend him your homeless boyfriend, puddly.
Damn! This is so much fun to post!
October 4, 2008
McCain's pullout has Michigan Republicans worried
BY CHRIS CHRISTOFF FREE PRESS LANSING BUREAU CHIEF
Michigan Republicans scrambled Friday to stanch potential damage to their election chances after Sen. John McCain's sudden decision to halt his presidential campaign, including TV advertising, in Michigan.
Some hoped McCain would resume campaigning in the state soon.
Others were downright mad.
"I don't know what McCain was thinking," fumed Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson, a leading state Republican. "He's a general who left the battlefield in the middle of the fight.
"I'm disappointed in his behavior; he's thrown a lot of good Republican candidates under the bus."
Patterson said McCain's withdrawal is a blow to other GOP candidates in other races on the ballot. Presidential candidates are counted on to draw voters to the polls, and the appearance that one has given up could depress his party's voter turnout.
Beyond Michigan's 17 electoral votes, the next biggest prize for state Democrats is winning two congressional seats now held by Republicans -- Joe Knollenberg's 9th District seat in Oakland County and Tim Walberg's 7th District seat stretching from western Washtenaw County to Battle Creek.
"If 20,000 people stay home in Michigan on Election Day because our commander has raised the white flag, that could change a lot of races," Patterson said.
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...EWS15/
810040322
Be skittish, be very skittish, & keep pushing till the gavel bangs on this band of thieves & thugs. Mammon is not defeated easily.
"The Fabulous Stains" was really no "Simon King of the Witches," despite the Clash and Sex Pistols members stunt casting.
Ayres is a terrorist. If supporting terrorists makes you a terrorist, then so is Obama. And we know Obama supports Ayres, so...
Nothing is better than sex.
A ham sandwich is better than nothing.
Therefore a ham sandwich is better than sex, Mr Strawman.
So many unproved premises in the pudster's little attempt at argument. It's just precious, really it is.
answer the question. Ayres is a terrorist. If supporting terrorists makes you a terrorist, then so is Obama. And we know Obama supports Ayres, so...
Aye pud, your logic is undeniable.. Prepare to have your city briefcase nuked.
McCain's pullout has Michigan Republicans worried
First they fire Millen, now they axe McCain. Good times!
Bush and Cheney are actual terrorists, relying on in inculcation of fear to move their agenda forward.
Why does pud keep acting like he has a brain?
Uncle Fester Lurks
Doesn't take any brains to parrot the same right wing talking points over and over again.
And believe that anyone here is going to change their vote.
Well, at least you're not thinking "velociraptor"...
A couple of them have learned how to open the cage doors, so maybe I should be worried.
Oh lord! Janet Jackson done got sick again. That's what she gets for having her boyfriend toss his cookies on her. Ouzo and I would not have been together if he threw up on me during our courtship. He would have been out the door.*
*But I take him back. I looooooove him so much. If I don't see him again I'mmma gonna die!
Bush and Cheney are actual terrorists, relying on in inculcation of fear to move their agenda forward.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 10.04.08 - 9:42 pm | #
don't forget the mass murder.
McPalin closing strategy:
Puting on Ayers.
McCain's pullout has Michigan Republicans worried
Rove's a genius! You SHOULD be worried!!!
DWD-S☮S | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 9:41 pm
How sweet it is!
Ayres is a terrorist.
Why isn't he in Gitmo? Doesn't Skeletor know where Hyde Park is?
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Saddam Hussein, Ferdinand Marcos and Manuel Noriega were dictators. And we know the US supported Saddam Hussein, Ferdinand Marcos and Manuel Noriega, so...
Goodness! "Now, Voyager" makes my life look like a fucking picnic. That mother is a bitch. May I suggest a pillow over the face?
Blowing up cities with a nuclear weapon is a terrorist act. And we know the US is the only nation on Earth to have blown up two cities with nuclear weapons, so...
Wasn't Obama all of six years old when Ayers (NOT Ayres) was in the news?
I mean, THIS is all the rightards HAVE?
Mrs. Blues is thoroughly convinced that I was on the Titanic in an earlier incarnation. I think I just like the story.
Deacon Blues
Howcome nobody thinks they were some anonymous Indian peasant killed in a flood during the rainy season, in a past life? Or, a Chinese peasant? There really weren't that many kings, princesses, war heroes, and Titanic passengers...
Saddam Hussein, Ferdinand Marcos and Manuel Noriega were dictators.
How about that Francisco Franco guy? Still dead?
NTodd--to those of us of a "cerain age," a ham sandwich IS better than sex - - or at least more procurable (so to speak)
"Now, Voyager" makes my life look like a fucking picnic.
Is that the one with Paul Henreid? He lights two cigarettes in his mouth, then hands one to Bette Davis?
THAT'S class!
New York Times did the heavy lifting this morning in giving the Ayers - Obama association wide coverage. Weekly Standard , National Review and Governor Palin will now carry the ball downfield and destroy Obama's character in the next 30 days. Watch & Learn how its done. Governor Palin is the perfect attack dog to get this job done. Obama doesn't dare criticize or verbally attack a white woman.
I mean, THIS is all the rightards HAVE?
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008 | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 9:44 pm | #
Exactly. Without the racism, this would be a 48-state blowout.
When I interact with my birds, I can't help it, I'm thinking "T-Rex"
You might want to leave the house. Well, at least you're not thinking "velociraptor"...
NTodd, Famous Person
welcome to my world. i live with a t-rex, though sometimes her favorite dinosaur is a triceratops.
Terry-- 8yo, if i recall correctly
Goodness! "Now, Voyager" makes my life look like a fucking picnic. That mother is a bitch. May I suggest a pillow over the face?
Monica_A: Is It Over Yet?
One of my favorite movies.
Gladys Cooper (who played the mother) was a pretty good actress...and a real looker in her younger days.
The guy Bette's character almost married....jeezus, all the sex appeal of Mitt Romney.
And I do not mean that as a compliment.
Jack is such a pompous ass. Must be 13 years old.
A couple of them have learned how to open the cage doors, so maybe I should be worried.
Fred did that, too--the little fucker also loved to bite me. NTodd's Pa actually gave him away recently to a friend of his brother's who really missed the bird.
A couple of them have learned how to open the cage doors, so maybe I should be worried.
How many do you have?
Jack is such a pompous ass. Must be 13 years old.
doug r |
All our trolls are....mentally.
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By FRANK RICH
Published: October 4, 2008
SARAH PALIN’S post-Couric/Fey comeback at last week’s vice presidential debate was a turning point in the campaign. But if she “won,” as her indulgent partisans and press claque would have it, the loser was not Joe Biden. It was her running mate. With a month to go, the 2008 election is now an Obama-Palin race — about “the future,” as Palin kept saying Thursday night — and the only person who doesn’t seem to know it is Mr. Past, poor old John McCain.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/0...ion&
oref=slogin
How about that Francisco Franco guy? Still dead?
He's been getting better since 75.
Note to self: Ayres is a terrorist. Kissinger isn't.
Can I come to your cocktail party now?
I mean, THIS is all the rightards HAVE?
This is the right going nuclear. But it's more like postal. We have another month of this to look forward to. Luckily, it seems the public is aware of the total vapidity of the McCain campaign.
Howcome nobody thinks they were some anonymous Indian peasant killed in a flood during the rainy season, in a past life? Or, a Chinese peasant? There really weren't that many kings, princesses, war heroes, and Titanic passengers...
Just for fun...I don't believe in this stuff but just for a bullshit argument:
Great people, people of consequence shatter into many smaller souls with the same memory and same seeds of greatness locked up within them that they may go among the lesser and newer souls and raise them up.
I had to walk away from "Now, Voyager'-too depressing.
Obama doesn't dare criticize or verbally attack a white woman.
jack | 10.04.08 - 9:45 pm | #
he doesn't have to. Every time she opens her yap, she loses another half a million voters to Obama. Governor Palin has no character, and thus cannot destroy Obama's character. Obama will wipe the floor with that old fraud mcCain in the next two debates, and mccain will probably withdraw from the race rather than face the humiliation that is sure to come. palin will be behind bars before she will occupy the White House. She is a criminal and a traitor.
In a past life, I was Shirley MacLaine's career..
They cannot let grownups take the reins.
A couple of things...
I don't think the Bushies care that much about McCain's election prospects.
The financial crisis has them boxed in as far as say doing something extreme like bombing Iran. If we're on the edge now, that would almost certainly be the thing that brings down the world economy completely (imagine the stock market after Iran starts attacking oil tankers in the Persian Gulf). I suspect that fear is why the sabre rattling has dried up completely in the last few months.
The one favor it seems that they are trying to do for McCain is trying to get Osama before the election. That has to be what all these recent Pakistan border incidents are all about.
I suspect Bush's January pardon list will be a very long and interesting one. That's how they'll probably escape the wrath of "the grownups".
Oh yeah! Kissinger is a war criminal, and we know that Palin loves him, so...
Howcome nobody thinks they were some anonymous Indian peasant killed in a flood during the rainy season, in a past life? Or, a Chinese peasant? There really weren't that many kings, princesses, war heroes, and Titanic passengers...
DuaneV, Infamous Person
oh. i think it all the time. or really, i think, when i observe different skills in friends, whether their ancestors possessed similar traits but were somehow linked to survival.
of course, it falls apart when i look at myself, 'cause what is the evolutionary precedent for addiction to eschaton?
answer the question. Ayres is a terrorist. If supporting terrorists makes you a terrorist, then so is Obama. And we know Obama supports Ayres, so...
pud | 10.04.08 - 9:39 pm | #
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Hey Pud you stupid fuck whats your opinion on Condi Rice recent visit with known terrorist Moammar Khadafi, you know the guy who took credit for blowing up Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbee, Scotland.
What do you have to say about that f**k face?
Obama doesn't dare criticize or verbally attack a white woman.
jack
jack's racist bullshit is depressing.
I suspect Bush's January pardon list will be a very long and interesting one. That's how they'll probably escape the wrath of "the grownups".
Crimes against humanity can't be pardoned by the president.
The Bush property in South America might be their only hope.
In a past life, I coulda been a contender.
Fred did that, too--the little fucker also loved to bite me. NTodd's Pa actually gave him away recently to a friend of his brother's who really missed the bird.
You told me before that he bit you. Sometimes they're just testing you when they do that. Other times it's lack of trust. But I hope Fred has a happy home. They live such a long time, and I've never met a grey that was mean just to be mean.
Gromit, I have 3 African greys (1 Congo, 2 Timnehs), a dusky Pionus and a Pacific Parrotlet (he talks!)
Obama doesn't dare criticize or verbally attack a white woman.
Why? Are you all going to have a lynching party?
fuck off jack
even you know it's over
Obama doesn't dare criticize or verbally attack a white woman.
jack
What ronjazz says. Scaracuda's numbers have been heading south every day. Except for the 22%-ers, she's a national joke and disgrace. But you go on and hide behind her. Wuss.
Howcome nobody thinks they were some anonymous Indian peasant killed in a flood during the rainy season, in a past life?
My wife was supposedly an Aztec peasant who got sacrificed.
I always liked Albert Brooks' visit to the Past Life Pavillion in "Defending Your Life":
"What are you?"
"Dinner!"
I see everyone's pounding the Pud again...
jack = pud
I suspect Bush's January pardon list will be a very long and interesting one. That's how they'll probably escape the wrath of "the grownups".
Richard
but pardons just protect from american prosecutions, not the hague, right??
What ronjazz says. Scaracuda's numbers have been heading south every day. Except for the 22%-ers, she's a national joke and disgrace. But you go on and hide behind her. Wuss.
Deacon Blues
Palin isn't running for president, even though she seems to think she is.
Hey Pud you stupid fuck whats your opinion on Condi Rice recent visit with known terrorist Moammar Khadafi, you know the guy who took credit for blowing up Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbee, Scotland.
Aww. Give pud a break. Mommar paid a few million dollars to clear his name!
"I'm disappointed in his behavior; he's thrown a lot of good Republican candidates under the bus."
Any 'Thuglican candidate's position is under the bus.
Ladies and Gennelmin, hop in your busses and start your engines.
Why did McCain not campaign today? Tired? Health reasons? With one month left and falling behind he takes a day off?
You told me before that he bit you. Sometimes they're just testing you
when they do that. Other times it's lack of trust.
Seems he was fine with me until he bonded with Dad. He was a bit better when I was taking care of him for a week, but he still was a cock, refusing to get back in his cage.
But I hope Fred has
a happy home.
He appears to. Dad liked him, but this lady really wanted to have him. She was my uncle's neighbor and her kids adored him and Fred.
of course, it falls apart when i look at myself, 'cause what is the evolutionary precedent for addiction to eschaton?
In the ruins of Pompeii there is a bathhouse. Along the recovered wall from the east side they found a long list of inscriptions running from the ceiling to the floor. When they were translated it was discovered that the writings consisted entierly of fish puns.
Note to self: Ayres is a terrorist. Kissinger isn't.
Can I come to your cocktail party now?
Kurtz: We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene!
Aww. Give pud a break. Mommar paid a few million dollars to clear his name!
smalfish | 10.04.08 - 9:51 pm | #
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Ah I see in Bushworld money trumps peace and terrorism.
Somebody needs to bring up Keating 5.
Why did McCain not campaign today? Tired? Health reasons? With one month left and falling behind he takes a day off?
He nearly always takes weekends off, I think.
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FWIW, I don't believe in that past life stuff. It's a fun conversational convention, but I don't believe it. You have one life -- and this is it. When you go, you're gone. I don't need Jeebus or God to crutch me along, either, thank you all the same.
Obama doesn't dare criticize or verbally attack a white woman.
[whistles]
He nearly always takes weekends off, I think.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 9:52 pm | #
It's the Bush Doctrine.
refusing to get back in his cage
Definitely testing you.
Why did McCain not campaign today? Tired? Health reasons? With one month left and falling behind he takes a day off?
He might make it closer if he stopped campaigning completely.
I have more proof that Putin is floating above Alaskan airspace! (scroll down)
Fucking Notre Dame, still I beat the spread, baby.
of course, it falls apart when i look at myself, 'cause what is the evolutionary precedent for addiction to eschaton?
bourbon cupcakes
We're a buncha mutant offshoots...
Sarah Palin is saying Barack Obama supports domestic terrorism.
Flea bites. And it's fleas all the way down, sir. Until you reach Homo Erectus at which point nobody knows.
Hillary Clinton is a white woman, isn't she?
Kurtz: We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders
won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's
obscene!
I made Ericka watch that about a week ago. She liked it.
Doesn't take any brains to parrot the same right wing talking points over and over again.
That's an insult to parrots.
And I just went to a exhibit on dinos with feathers. Apparently the bird line split out much earlier than had been thought until recently. However, both types of dinos had some feathered species.
So maybe not the T-Rex line, but there were some pretty nasty ones on that line, including the raptors...
Obama doesn't dare criticize or verbally attack a white woman.
He doesn't need to.
There are plenty of white women (including myself) who are only too happy to "criticize or verbally attack" Psycho Sarah.
And she deserves it!
Why did McCain not campaign today? Clearing brush at his ranch like all good Republics since Raygun?
Butler, why don't you step out of character for once and tell us if you knew George Deutsch personally?
Was the NASA global warming censor your good buddy?
Howcome nobody thinks they were some anonymous Indian peasant killed in a flood during the rainy season, in a past life? Or, a Chinese peasant? There really weren't that many kings, princesses, war heroes, and Titanic passengers...
DuaneV, Infamous Person
oh. i think it all the time. or really, i think, when i observe different skills in friends, whether their ancestors possessed similar traits but were somehow linked to survival.
of course, it falls apart when i look at myself, 'cause what is the evolutionary precedent for addiction to eschaton?
bourbon cupcakes
Just look back at history. All good scientists and discoverers and inventors were obsessive as well...
He nearly always takes weekends off, I think.
One day chemo/radiation, one day to sleep it off.
Seriously, kids. Fucking. Seriously.
Buckeyes suck.
I don't believe in past life stuff either, but if I did, I was definitely a Kazakh warrior!
Howcome nobody thinks they were some anonymous Indian peasant killed in a flood during the rainy season, in a past life? Or, a Chinese peasant? There really weren't that many kings, princesses, war heroes, and Titanic passengers...
DuaneV, Infamous Person
George Bush was a cockroach in his last life.
Homo Eschatonus
I made Ericka watch that about a week ago. She liked it.
One of the all time great movies.
Definitely testing you.
Yeah. What a shithead. Jesus, to think he's only 3 years old and I would have to will him to my kids...
George Bush was a cockroach in his last life.
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008 | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Hmmm. he seems to have come back as a cockroach.
Will it be allowed?
smalfish
Hopefully, now that comb licker is gone.
You have one life -- and this is it. When you go, you're gone.
Personally, I don't the universe is that wasteful.
Recycle, reuse...
Is she stupid, a liar, or just plain evil?
Palin lied about divesting in Sudan:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotte...=5948944&
page=1
I made Ericka watch that about a week ago. She liked it.
NTodd, Famous Person
You're a regular Travis Bickle...
I made Ericka watch that about a week ago.
I'm picturing Malcolm McDowell in A Clockwork Orange for some reason.
Palin isn't running for president, even though she seems to think she is.
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
Terry C Johnson is right! Focus on McW.
Oh, yeah, that crazy Sarah Palin chick. She's like totally into gay marriage and shit.
Obama doesn't dare criticize or verbally attack a white woman.
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First of all he would if the criticism was warranted.
Secondly, he has way too much class to do such a thing out of hatred or anger.
Thirdly, I believe he criticized Hillary verbally about her policies during the primaries.
Fourthly...STFU! You ignorant, racist scum!
Why did McCain not campaign today? Tired? Health reasons? With one month left and falling behind he takes a day off?
Is the presidency not a 24/7 job? Will he be called on during a weekend sleepover? Will he be prepared to awaken from his weekend coma?
Is she stupid, a liar, or just plain evil?
She's a stupid evil liar.
We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene!
Richard |
Sex is dirty and obscene.
Violence, war and killing is hunkey dorey.
That's the way those people think - how fucked up.
George Bush was a cockroach in his last life.
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
I thought he was primordial ooze?
Dear Sirs:
I must protest the equating of the American war criminal George Bush with cockroaches. There have been many distinguished cockroaches throughout history and we feel throughly insulted to have him mentioned as being one of us.
Signed
Rear Adm. Hastings, John (ret) (Mrs.)
I made Ericka watch that about a week ago.
I'm picturing Malcolm McDowell in A Clockwork Orange for some reason.
The Kenosha Kid
Travis Bickle.
I love the idea of past and future lives. I especially like the idea that if you're a monster in this life you'll pay for it in the next. Never mind the pitchforks in hell. I want them to deal with the actual consequences of what they did right here. Just a personal fantasy.
McCain can sleep on the road only so many times before he has to return to his crypt.
Until you reach Homo Erectus at which point nobody knows.
Salieri
Hey now!
Guess he had to suspend his campaign for a day to take a nap.
That's an insult to parrots.
I always say that, but it's a losing battle.
I really dislike Spielberg movies, but I will give him credit for the way the dinosaurs acted in Jurassic Park - many of them were very bird-like, especially T-Rex with the pinning pupils and the way the velociraptors looked around.
McCain suspended his campaign and can't find the jumper cables to get it restarted.
Is she stupid, a liar, or just plain evil?
Why choose?
sweet whiskey dreams.
bourbon cupcakes
Sweeta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...h?
v=idndI0SeCO0
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Here's an idea:
Let's all speak in one word sentences.
I'm picturing Malcolm McDowell in A Clockwork Orange for some reason.
Shhh. That's next week. Haven't quite worked out the eye dropper system yet.
Hey? Will Obama be required to buy a ranch when he's president? If not, where will he go on his long weekends?
Tired.
Buenas noches.
Homo Eschatonus
atablarasa
not that there's anything wrong with that
Until you reach Homo Erectus at which point nobody knows
I think Rich Lowry reached homo erectus while watching Palin at the debate...
So.
Or, would that be "hetero erectus"?
Hey? Will Obama be required to buy a ranch when he's president? If not, where will he go on his long weekends?
smalfish |
Hyde Park
Wanna go punk? Just say two words.
Hey? Will Obama be required to buy a ranch when he's president? If not, where will he go on his long weekends?
A very cool idea would be a tour of national parks to promote our natural wonder and ecology.
Will Obama be required to buy a ranch when he's president? If not, where will he go on his long weekends?
He will go to his madrassa in Kenya, of course.
George Bush was a cockroach in his last life.
I don't know about his last life. But the odds of him being anything with a backbone or sensory system in the next life can't be good.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son? He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would work on his head?
Here's an idea
Here's another: How about we grease up a 4-ft. fluroscent light tube, shove it up your ass, and hit you in the gut with a Louisville Slugger?
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I love the idea of past and future lives. I especially like the idea that if you're a monster in this life you'll pay for it in the next. Never mind the pitchforks in hell. I want them to deal with the actual consequences of what they did right here. Just a personal fantasy.
I had a friend who died of cancer back in the 70's. She said that she'd meet up in the next life with me, but I'd better look for her as a cow, because that's what she thought she'd come back as.
I got depressed the other day when I thought about that and figured that she's probably had a couple lives by now if she went that route...
One of the all time great movies.
Personally, I always preferred Porklips Now...
Homo Eschatonus
I like it, but it'll look funny on my business card
Democrat abortion-hags:
"Why doesn't somebody put that Palin bitch's Downs thing down?"
Hey? Will Obama be required to buy a ranch when he's president? If not, where will he go on his long weekends?
smalfish | 10.04.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Camp David, where normal presidents used to go.
It just simply is not true.
NTodd likes to play "hogs of the road".
I don't know about his last life. But the odds of him being anything with a backbone or sensory system in the next life can't be good.
Neponset
It would be nice if he'd come back as an Iraqi born in the areas saturated with depleted uranium.
I heard NASCAR was considering the Volt, I'm trying to imagine a quiet NASCAR race.
Aww. Give pud a break. Mommar paid a few million dollars to clear his name!
Money he got from the Italians!
I would like to come back as a black bear. Nobody bothers you much, the goal is to get as fat as possible, and you get to sleep all winter.
Howcome nobody thinks they were some anonymous Indian peasant killed in a flood during the rainy season, in a past life?
The one book I read dealing with past life memories -- I think it was called "The Girl with Green Eyes -- she believed she lived on a farm in the 1880s in Canada IIRC.
I got depressed the other day when I thought about that and figured that she's probably had a couple lives by now if she went that route...
atablarasa
Maybe a holy cow in India?
I wanna come back as Dita Von Teese.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son? He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would work on his head?
How about starting out with the Washita scene from Little Big Man and working up?
Sweeta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...h? v=idndI0SeCO0
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
sweet. ah.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son?
He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer
games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would
work on his head?
Show him Platoon.
Da horror is Red Rose, baby.
Can you come back a plaque? A virus?
Here's another: How about we grease up a 4-ft. fluroscent light tube, shove it up your ass, and hit you in the gut with a Louisville Slugger?
[golf clap]
I say.
Good form, old chap.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son?
That's a tough one. I think I'd go the reading route, rather than movies.
It would be nice if he'd come back as an Iraqi born in the areas saturated with depleted uranium.
I don't know if it would be nice, exactly, but it would have a certain karmic justice to it.
This is what you get
When you mess with us
Sarah Palin:
"Ooh, get that retarded thing away from me!"
Deacon, I don't think it would have the desired effect. My 14 yr old is completely numb to video violence. I would be afraid he would only find the explosions cool.
He will go to his madrassa in Kenya, of course.
Ah, but will he clear brush?
I would like to come back as a black bear. Nobody bothers you much, the goal is to get as fat as possible, and you get to sleep all winter.
Ali's team of mavrix
But you get really cranky in the spring, you like to eat grubs and you smell...
I was a shark in a past life, but I jumped it. So now I am a smalfish.
And you're still fucking morons.
Can you come back a plaque? A virus?
Deacon Blues
That's it! Bush comes back as dental plaque.
This is what you get
When you mess with us
mmmmm...radiohead.
I wanna come back as Dita Von Teese.
Except for the being married to Marylin Manson part, right?
Hey? Will Obama be required to buy a ranch when he's president? If not, where will he go on his long weekends?
smalfish
Dunno. He looks better in a cowboy hat than the Crawford Cretin, though.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son?
That's a tough one. I think I'd go the reading route, rather than movies.
Gromit
Heart of Darkness - Conrad.
I heard NASCAR was considering the Volt, I'm trying to imagine a quiet NASCAR race.
Lumpenprolitariot
They will use clothes pins and playing cards that will strike the lugnuts
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son? He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would work on his head?
How about starting out with the Washita scene from Little Big Man and working up?
atablarasa |
has he ever even read 'lord of the flies'? i know it's not war, but it did make me cry!
This is what you get
When you mess with us
Tlazolteotl, CCd
Karma Police!
But you get really cranky in the spring, you like to eat grubs and you smell...
ellroon, Obama/Biden 08 | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 10:04 pm | #
And that's bad?
Will Obama be required to buy a ranch when he's president?
It would be pretty funny if Bush has trouble selling his photo-op set as a result of the real estate bubble burst.
Sarah Palin:
"Ooh, get that retarded thing away from me!"
ronjaz
"Only bring him to me when I need him for a photo op. Otherwise, he's Bristol or Willow's responsibility."
Maybe a holy cow in India?
That would tickle her no end, as she was a lapsed Catholic.
Except for the being married to Marylin Manson part, right?
Well, obviously.
I'm thinking more of the lesbian route.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son?
He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer
games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would
work on his head?
I watched the Mel Gibson movie based on Joe Galloway's Book, WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE(AND YOUNG) with my sons. I found the movie to be a fair and accurate (as far as my understanding goes) of war and its cost.
Or you could let him read my book.
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think it was Joseph Heller who used the existence of tooth decay to prove that there was not loving God.
I'm thinking more of the lesbian route.
Well, I'd hit it.
WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE
Is that movie really any good? Worth watching?
Platoon.
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Regarding the horror of war, you could just go with Saving Private Ryan. Given the reactions to Apocolypse and Saving by vets, I'm guessing that Saving is the more potent brew if you're going for shock without cool explosions.
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think it was Joseph Heller who used the existence of tooth decay to prove that there was not loving God.
No, I think that was Andy Partridge.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son?
He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer
games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would
work on his head?
Full Metal Jacket
I have "War Pigs" coming through the random play.
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"Only bring him to me when I need him for a photo op. Otherwise, he's Bristol or Willow's responsibility."
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008 | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 10:06 pm | #
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Correction she is 6 year old Pipers responsibility as Bristol is too busy drinking and whoring around while Willow is into self pity and always whining Bristol, Bristol, Bristol...
Phillies threatening a ninth inning comeback.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son?
He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer
games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would
work on his head?
Born on the Fourth of July?
Is that movie really any good? Worth watching?
It's actually pretty good.
she = he (trig)
Is that movie really any good? Worth watching?
smalfish
I thought it was. YMMV.
It did NOT glorify war by any means. And the scenes of fighting and the devastation at home caused by the deaths were amazingly moving.
I found it very poignant.
Full Metal Jacket
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
Yeah, just the thing for a 13yr old. Watching a guy blow his brains out.
Nice...
Full Metal Jacket
I don't know, apparently many young males have a different reaction to that film than the rest of us.
I agree with atablarasa, from what I've heard about Saving Private Ryan.
Sarah Palin was explainin' her tryst with Dita Von Teese to Todd. Not that Todd either. Though I am still homosexually attracted to NTodd's Pa. And he ain't even gay.
But come on, Anderson Cooper is not totally gay and hawt. Mind you, he did bugger Sarah Palin, but he thought it was a butch mooseç plus he was drunk.
Is that movie really any good? Worth watching?
It's not a bad adaptation of the book. You don't get the same sense of the battle as reading in depth, but I liked it, even with Mel.
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think it was Joseph Heller who used the existence of tooth decay to prove that there was not loving God.
Deacon Blues
Killed alot of Homo Erectus. You could look it up.
It did NOT glorify war by any means. And the scenes of fighting and the devastation at home caused by the deaths were amazingly moving.
Thanks. I have it cued up right now. I'll start it in a bit.
going down like dominoes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...0303699_pf.html
Try as it may the troll "E" is being ignored and it's making him sad. Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son? He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would work on his head?
My son, also 13, was the same way for a while. When I pointed out the names, faces and ages of the soldiers on the Honor Roll of the Dead at the end of the Newshour his tone changed. I've also pushed some newspaper articles under his nose to read now and then.
Yeah, just the thing for a 13yr old. Watching a guy blow his brains out.
Nice...
I wasn't speaking to you.
Oh. maybe I should share where I'm watching it?
http://www.surfthechannel.com/in....html?
aid=71200
Hey? Will Obama be required to buy a ranch when he's president? If not, where will he go on his long weekends?
smalfish
Dunno. He looks better in a cowboy hat than the Crawford Cretin, though.
Salieri
Damn right he does!
Compare and contrast.
Yeah, erm.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son?
He kind of has this childish war ideation going on, based on computer
games and the like. Wonder how a bit of the horror, the horror would
work on his head?
For a less graphic film with a war is fucking horrible and stupid message, I recommend "Paths of Glory".
Erin, are you okay?
We're actually watching Thin Red Line right now. It's a beautiful war movie because it's ugly and as Ebert said (IIRC), it's really an old man's meditation on war. If that makes any sense.
I thought Saving Private Ryan was quite realistic when they were coming ashore in Normandy
For a less graphic film with a war is fucking horrible and stupid message, I recommend "Paths of Glory".
My second pick, after Born on the Fourth of July.
Hmmmm pud and jack show up at the same time than disappear at the same time and guess who shows up next???
Why sad, Erin? All the war movie talk?
For a less graphic film with a war is fucking horrible and stupid message, I recommend "Paths of Glory".
Richard
AND it's Kubrick.
Best fucking thing you've said in months...
I watched the Mel Gibson movie based on Joe Galloway's Book, WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE(AND YOUNG) with my sons. I found the movie to be a fair and accurate (as far as my understanding goes) of war and its cost.
I'm no fan of Mel's, but (to his credit) Mel is no fan of war.
When he was making that movie, he asked "Would Americans like it if a foreign army invaded and occupied THEIR country?"
WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE
The guy whose photo was used on the cover of that book-and also a lot of the book is about him-died in the WTC on 9/11. He was a real hero, went back in to save more people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric...i/
Rick_Rescorla
I think Morgan Stanley was the only major firm in the WTC that did not lose a single person. He got them all out.
But there is whole goldmine in that Dita Von Slut thingly.
Hmmmm pud and jack show up at the same time than disappear at the same time and guess who shows up next???
Uncle Fester Lurks
You noticed that too, eh?
Also, you might have him read Jarhead and All Quiet on the Western Front.
After watching some Vietnam movies, take your kid to The Wall. Pretty fucking sobering.
Dunno. He looks better in a cowboy hat than the Crawford Cretin, though.
Salieri
Damn right he does!
As was said much earlier, we really need to get him a Gucci saddle and a palomino...
going down like dominoes:
McCain's "suspension" stunt may go down as the worst political blunder in history.
It didn't just hurt him, but his party.
I'm no fan of Mel's, but (to his credit) Mel is no fan of war.
Mel is one crazy-ass motherfucker, but he makes interesting movies. "Apocalypto" had some amazing themes, ideas he linked to the Bush administration of all things.
And that's bad?
Franklin Furter III, H.D.
And as to anti-war movies, the recent Daniel Radcliffe movie (Harry Potter) called 'Our Son Jack' (or something like) about Rudyard Kipling's boy going to war and dying.
Atonement is also one (kinda a chick flick) but shows the utter waste of lives.
I think Morgan Stanley was the only major firm in the WTC that did not lose a single person. He got them all out.
Karin Hussein
Comedy = tragedy + time.
Damn right he does!
Compare and contrast.
ellroon, Obama/Biden 08
"I make this shit look good."
Fuck off, "Elias".
I thought Saving Private Ryan was quite realistic when they were coming ashore in Normandy
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I still get pissed when I see that scene where the nerdy soldier freaks out and allows his buddy to get stabbed to death by the German soldier. Must have been a republican.
Gallipoli, All Quiet on the Western Front..
But there is whole goldmine in that Dita Von Slut thingly.
Dude...just don't.
After watching some Vietnam movies, take your kid to The Wall. Pretty fucking sobering.
Viet Nam and then a rock and roll flick?
WHy?
As was said much earlier, we really need to get him a Gucci saddle and a palomino...
atablarasa
And play some Count Basie.
Do you guys think I should show Apocalypse Now to my 13 year old son?
Red Badge Of Courage.
Watched The Bridges at Toko-Ri last night with William Holden and Grace Kelly. I was surprised that a Korean War movie of that era would end that depressingly (i.e. realistically).
Fuck off, "Elias".
Richard
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Go fuck yourself, "Dick"...
Johnny Got His Gun...
Gallipoli
A great film.
Whenever I'm in DC, I almost always visit a guy on The Wall who died at Ia Drang, the battle in We Were Soldiers: Sgt Luther Vermont Gilreath.
As was said much earlier, we really need to get him a Gucci saddle and a palomino...
Damn, you know, I have never seen Blazing Saddles. I'm definitely going to have to before the election.
I still get pissed when I see that scene where the nerdy soldier freaks out and allows his buddy to get stabbed to death by the German soldier. Must have been a republican.
Uncle Fester Lurks
Heh. But didnt he eventually find his pair and get the german who stabbed his buddy?
Whenever I'm in DC, I almost always visit a guy on The Wall who died at Ia Drang, the battle in We Were Soldiers: Sgt Luther Vermont Gilreath.
NTodd, Famous Person
Do you place stones in front of the names?
Haven't made it to DC for the full one, but even the traveling wall has tremendous impact.
Okay Dokey, lets go back to the whole NTodd as male prostitute thing. Which NTodd's Pa is all differentiated about.
Thanks for your inputs guys.
I like the idea of going to the Vietnam Memorial in DC and seeing all the names. Very moving. And there are always vets on site who remember.
I wish the little lefty were more of a reader, I would love to point him to "All's Quiet..." and the like, but that just isn't him. Yet.
Haven't made it to DC for the full one, but even the traveling wall has tremendous impact.
There's a traveling one about Iraq, but instead of a wall, it's a series of empty boots symbolizing all the soldiers killed.
Blazing Saddles on You Tube no less.
http://www.surfthechannel.com/in...html?
aid=189962
I still get pissed when I see that scene where the nerdy soldier freaks out and allows his buddy to get stabbed to death by the German soldier. Must have been a republican.
Uncle Fester Lurks
That scene prevents me from just sitting down to watch it...
Oh, and Band of Brothers is excellent too.
84 charlie mopic
Hey, anyone here able to whip up a quick photoshop of Hugh Hewitt's head on the body of a toddler wearing footie pajamas? I'd need it soon. I can can offer in return a front page link...
Deacon Blues,
Hamburger Hill is pretty damn grim and focuses on the grunts.
Also "Go Tell the Spartans". The good guys loose.
I still have this fellow's POW bracelet.
Have had it since 1973:
SHELDON D SCHULTZ
CWO - W3 - Army - Reserve
1st AVN BDE
His tour began on Jan 5, 1968
Casualty was on Apr 2, 1979
In LZ, LAOS
Hostile, died while missing, HELICOPTER - PILOT
AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND
Body was not recovered
Panel 33E - Line 53
Kelly's Heroes!
Sutherland, Rickles, Savalas!
Harry Dean Stanton!
Great fucking movie...
Damn, you know, I have never seen Blazing Saddles. I'm definitely going to have to before the election.
Tlazolteotl, CCd | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 10:18 pm | #
I'm ready to sing Camptown Ladies.
Whenever I'm in DC, I almost always visit a guy on The Wall who died at Ia Drang, the battle in We Were Soldiers: Sgt Luther Vermont Gilreath.
NTodd, Famous Person
Yep.
The NYC Vietnam War memorial is very moving. It's also a wall, but it has excerpts of soldiers' letters, diaries and poems etched on it. I highly recommend it.
Thers: Hey, anyone here able to whip up a quick photoshop of Hugh Hewitt's head on the body of a toddler wearing footie pajamas? I'd need it soon. I can can offer in return a front page link...
Yup.
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Oh, and Band of Brothers is excellent too.
Fantastic.
GravatarAfter watching some Vietnam movies, take your kid to The Wall.
I don't see the Pink Floyd connection, frankly.
WHy?
smalfish
Ever see The Wall?
anon, fine
ducks are just getting hammered by usc
"Go Tell The Spartans" is another good Vietnam war flick about the early days of the war, starring Burt Lancaster & Ken Wahl.
http://www.amazon.com/review/
pro...rBy=addFiveStar
"That scene prevents me from just sitting down to watch it..."
oh my god that scene fucked me up
I don't see the Pink Floyd connection, frankly.
Coke me, ya big lug.
Yup.
Kuhl, send it to therswhiskey at hotmail dot com
FDL link; I need it by 11
relatively small dimensions
"Generation Kill" was pretty darn good, too.
More about WO Schultz:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bi...&GRid=19663586&
DB, 13's kind of bent that way anyway. I was all about guns and playing war, but it wasn't long until that stopped.
And my kids went through some of that too. Neither is gung-ho now.
So keep the faith. He'll learn more from you as long as you're there for him, but like the man said, he may be amazed at how smart you become as he grows older.
anon, fine
ducks are just getting hammered by usc
ErinPDX
Well, maybe it's for the best.
"Ducks Gobbles Trojans" doesn't sound that good.
Ever see The Wall?
Ya, but I got really stoned at the theater.
Also "Go Tell the Spartans". The good guys loose.
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bo beat me to it.
Mind you, I wish my evil dad had died and stayed died in Ia Drang. Thankfully, he got all fucked up after he fucked my moms.
Oh, and Band of Brothers is excellent too.
Drags some, but good
Just watched "Three Kings" the other day, and was surprised at how Anti war the theme of the film was...
The Quiet American was good.
I don't see the Pink Floyd connection, frankly.
Thers
Mother should I run for president
I still have this fellow's POW bracelet.
Have had it since 1973:
SHELDON D SCHULTZ
CWO - W3 - Army - Reserve
1st AVN BDE
His tour began on Jan 5, 1968
Casualty was on Apr 2, 1979
In LZ, LAOS
Hostile, died while missing, HELICOPTER - PILOT
AIR LOSS, CRASH ON LAND
Body was not recovered
Panel 33E - Line 53
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
Seriously. That made me tear up. I don't know the man or anything about him. But the Vietnam Memorial personalizes the war
Thers -- Do I have your e-mail, or can I send to yer wifey?
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Jeffraham to the rescue. I was about to call on him yesterday, had a blue screen of death on a dell computer.
Just watched "Three Kings" the other day, and was surprised at how Anti war the theme of the film was...
Man, I haven't watched that one in a while. Very good movie.
Tigerland with Colin Farrell.
Very good, overlooked Nam film. Really about boot camp...
We're actually watching Thin Red Line right now. It's a beautiful war movie because it's ugly and as Ebert said (IIRC), it's really an old man's meditation on war. If that makes any sense.
NTodd, Famous Person
Totally.
My dad was a WWII vet. Towards the end of his life he began to talk about his memories. They were not allowed to weep then, so they weep old men's tears when they no longer care.
Traveling with my dad many years ago in France, our family visited the Maginot Line. They had a memorial site where there was a huge bomb crater and the cement bunker being watched over by an old French soldier. My dad and he embraced immediately and had tears in their eyes while they tried to talk to each other.
My heart broke for them.
Damn, you know, I have never seen Blazing Saddles. I'm definitely going to have to before the election.
And here I thought you were cultured!
had a blue screen of death on a dell computer.
Did you write down the error code it gave you?
the best American movie about the war was "Hearts and Minds".
Oh, and Band of Brothers is excellent too.
Not as many big sweaty mens as 300, though.
DB, 13's kind of bent that way anyway. I was all about guns and playing war, but it wasn't long until that stopped.
atablarasa
Thanks, that's my plan and hope. When I was that age, it was spies and war. I just want to move the little lefty along.
I still get pissed when I see that scene where the nerdy soldier freaks out and allows his buddy to get stabbed to death by the German soldier. Must have been a republican. - Uncle Fester Lurks
Paralyzed by fear? Been there, done that. Fucks you up for quite a while afterwards.
We're actually watching Thin Red Line right now.
I remember when it and "Saving Private Ryan" came out at around the same time, there seemed to be a competition among some movie afficianados about which one you were "supposed" to like.
"Thin Red Line" was the "dull art film", while "Saving Private Ryan" was "Hollywood action" according to the respective film's critics.
I thought they were both equally intense and artistically serious. Certainly not mutually exclusive in terms of which to regard highly.
Mind you, I wish my evil dad had died and stayed died in Ia Drang. Thankfully, he got all fucked up after he fucked my moms.
Le Jackel
You got anyone to talk to about this?
And here I thought you were cultured!
I know! It's a serious oversight! Especially in these political times, I have a feeling.
Does it help to hear that I have Young Frankenstein on DVD at all?
the best American movie about the war was "Hearts and Minds".
Produced by Bert Schneider, who also produced - wait for it - "The Monkees"!
Yeah, my evil dad.
When I was that age, it was spies and war
Funny, when I was 13, I found that thing in my drawers. I was never the same after.
"The Big Red One" by Sam Fuller is a pretty good anti-war war movie, too...
had a blue screen of death on a MS based computer
Loaded your DLL
Not as many big sweaty mens as 300, though.
MP
I'm sure the freepers get off on that one.
Part of a double feature with Red Dawn.
Did you write down the error code it gave you?
Sadly no. Ended up giving the whole thing to a computer techie guy to take to his shop. It was seriously fucked up, and we didn't have any recovery disks. Probably going to have to get them from Dell.
Yeah, my evil dad.
Le Jackel
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Maybe someone more objective?
Funny, when I was 13, I found that thing in my drawers. I was never the same after.
smalfish
Early bloomer were ya?
Yeah, I'm in a hurry to deal with that, too!
Blazing Saddles can be watched in 10-minute segments on YouTube, if you have the patience.
I actually liked "Coming Home," which is pretty much forgotten now.
Kinda stole the Ron Kovics story for Jon Voigt's part...
Does it help to hear that I have Young Frankenstein on DVD at all?
It's a start, anyway. I rate it at second after BS. Mel missed a bunch of opportunities with some of the other movies he made...
WTF! It's raining at the Coliseum.
But not here a few miles southeast.
Do I have your e-mail, or can I send to yer wifey?
Upthread, but therswhiskey at hotmail dot com
Kelly's Heroes!
Sutherland, Rickles, Savalas!
Harry Dean Stanton!
Great fucking movie...
You forgot Eastwood and Carroll O'Connor.
I never saw High Anxiety. That's the one with all of the birdshit, isn't it?
Mother should I run for president
BedBug
Mother should I trust the government?
The Wall sheds light on the type of damaged personality types that gravitate toward positions of authority during wartime, and the ways in which they use dehumanization to manipulate..
Some of the Floyd lyrics from the film:
"Did you see the frightened ones?
Did you hear the falling bombs?
Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath the clear blue sky?"
The Fog of War doc about McNamara was very good. Should not be overlooked...
I was gonna recommend Coming Home too, but the sex scenes may be a bit much for a 13 year old. And a great soundtrack, really brought back the era for me.
Hey, yer not from Stanford are you? Evil dad was and is a profound hero. I hate his guts.
According to TMZ, Grammy-nominated rapper turned Oscar-nominated actress Queen Latifah will portray Vice-Presidential Debate moderator Gwen Ifill when SNL parodies the Sarah Palin/Joe Biden showdown tonight.
It's a start, anyway. I rate it at second after BS. Mel missed a bunch of opportunities with some of the other movies he made...
Yeah, but I kinda liked High Anxiety. And Men In Tights had a few moments.
Dodgers 2, Cubs naught
NTodd, will Sam and Gracey come back when it gets too cold?
I never saw High Anxiety. That's the one with all of the birdshit, isn't it?
Yup. And Cloris Leachman doing Nurse Rachett (sp?).
fuck.
I was gonna recommend Coming Home too, but the sex scenes may be a bit much for a 13 year old. And a great soundtrack, really brought back the era for me.
Karin Hussein
Jon Voigt talks shit about that movie now (for which he won an Oscar) because, according to him, we could have won in Vietnam.
Seems enough people didn't die to suit him.
The Wall sheds light on the type of damaged personality types that gravitate toward positions of authority during wartime, and the ways in which they use dehumanization to manipulate..
Well stated DuaneV.
One thing that jumps out at you in The Longest Day is how awful an actor John Wayne was.
Thers -- Sent to Molly's Yahoo acct.
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Kelly's Heroes!
Sutherland, Rickles, Savalas!
Harry Dean Stanton!
Great fucking movie...
You forgot Eastwood and Carroll O'Connor.
Franklin Furter III, H.D.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
How could I forget!
Also, Savalas and Sutherland in The Dirty Dozen too. Cassavetes was hilarious. The scene where Lee Marvin teaches Clint Walker how to channel his rage...
"The Villain" a western comedy starring Kirk Douglas, Ann Margaret and a young Ahnold S, is pretty funny. Okay I was on shrooms when I saw it but it was like Wily E. Coyote come to life. Douglas was funny as the Villain with horseshit luck as was his horse Whiskey.
Everybody here needs to see "Generation Kill".
One thing that jumps out at you in The Longest Day is how awful an actor John Wayne was.
LOL
I think of him as the old Keanu Reeves.
Seriously. That made me tear up. I don't know the man or anything about him. But the Vietnam Memorial personalizes the war
I read about the design process behind that particular memorial.
One of the early concepts was to have basically a crevice, a gash in the ground into which visitors would descend to read the names.
A wound in the earth.
I think if any war memorial must be built, they should all be designed like that. No columns, no fountains, no shining, gleaming glory: just a wound.
anon
lol
One thing that jumps out at you in The Longest Day is how awful an actor John Wayne was.
MP
Jumped out at me in every one of his movies.
He played the same role in every film he made.
One thing that jumps out at you in The Longest Day is how awful an actor John Wayne was.
MP
That jumps out at me for a lot of his movies.
Stagecoach being a notable exception.
Thanks, BedBug.
I was thinking about the credit crunch from earlier posts today and perhaps why it doesnt make sense to many.
Its a debt crunch. Credit is debt and were having a problem selling our debt.
One thing that jumps out at you in The Longest Day is how awful an actor John Wayne was.
He's really bad, compared to the somber tone everyone else had (except Sean Connery).
Wayne ends up in a wagon for most of the movie, being dragged around by other actors. Very symbolic.
NTodd, will Sam and Gracey come back when it gets too cold?
Sam does sometimes. Gracey probably will--having the leaves gone will help us see her in the woods, too, when she scampers off.
Even better scene in Dirty Dozen is Sutherland playing the general and inspecting the troops.
Fucking hilarious!
Seraphiel, you got that right.
so, the promised photos of Bruce Springsteen show never turned up?
Jon Voigt talks shit about that movie now (for which he won an Oscar) because, according to him, we could have won in Vietnam.
Seems enough people didn't die to suit him.
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
John McCain labors under that very same illusion, that the military could have won if the government had let them.
Nukes would have been involved, I'm sure...
So Vietnam better watch out if McCain becomes prez, because he'll nuke it flat. "There. NOW we've won the war, bitches!"
Again, Terry C Johnson is right, John Wayne basically made a career out of playing John Wayne.
So Vietnam better watch out if McCain becomes prez, because he'll nuke it flat. "There. NOW we've won the war, bitches!"
ellroon, Obama/Biden 08
Nah - he'll just take out the entire Middle East.
Jumped out at me in every one of his movies.
He played the same role in every film he made.
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Careful there Terry, you might get jack back here screaming about what a great American hero Wayne was...
Deacon Blues Johnson is right. It's just that some of his parts fit better than others.
So to speak...
Even better scene in Dirty Dozen is Sutherland playing the general and inspecting the troops. -Elias
Few great actors today and I think Donald Sutherland is one.
How about M*A*S*H?
That's a good anti-war movie.
John McCain labors under that very same illusion, that the military could have won if the government had let them.
Nukes would have been involved, I'm sure...
A shame that Watchmen isn't coming out until March.
Again, Terry C Johnson is right, John Wayne basically made a career out of playing John Wayne.
To be fair, the same can be said for Bogart.
he'll nuke it flat. "There. NOW we've won the war, bitches!"
ellroon, Obama/Biden 08
I laugh, but that's what Bush II did with Iraq, isn't it.
Careful there Terry, you might get jack back here screaming about what a great American hero Wayne was...
Uncle Fester Lurks
I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO scared.
To be fair, the same can be said for Bogart.
And William Powell.
84 charlie mopic
Salieri
Yes. The narrator, Mopic, is Byron Thames from Father Murphy.
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My dad and he embraced immediately and had tears in their eyes while they tried to talk to each other.
My heart broke for them.
ellroon, Obama/Biden 08
The flames are all long gone, but the pain lingers on.
But We Were Soldiers Once does have the added feature of having one of the great movie lines of all time in it.
For 100 quatloos, can anyone name Sam Elliot's line?
Uncle, I agree about the Villain. But the part of the Hadsome Stranger kind of took the edge off for me.
To be fair, the same can be said for Bogart.
Anon, chips and salsa
I dunno, I feel like Bogie caught something of his zeitgeist, the tough cynical oppressed underdog who was wise to the ways of the world without illusions that he could change it much.
Again, Terry C Johnson is right, John Wayne basically made a career out of playing John Wayne.
Deacon Blues
And the truth is, in a real war, dumbasses like John Wayne would either be the first ones shot or blown up, or fragged by their own people.
John Wayne was the Ashton Kutcher of his generation.
Played the same role in every single movie.
JP Thanx!
The overhead shot of the battle moving through the French town in The Longest Day was very impressive.
To be fair, the same can be said for Bogart.
And Spencer Tracy and Cary Grant, as much as I like them.
"The Villain" a western comedy starring Kirk Douglas, Ann Margaret and a young Ahnold S, is pretty funny. Okay I was on shrooms when I saw it but it was like Wily E. Coyote come to life. Douglas was funny as the Villain with horseshit luck as was his horse Whiskey.
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And Paul Lynde as the Indian chief..hilarious.
Uncle, I agree about the Villain. But the part of the Hadsome Stranger kind of took the edge off for me.
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I hear ya, I was too busy laughing at all of the scemes that backfired on Douglas.
"Any of you sumbitches call me grandpa...and I'll kill you."
To be fair, the same can be said for Bogart.
Anon, chips and salsa
I dunno, I feel like Bogie caught something of his zeitgeist, the tough cynical oppressed underdog who was wise to the ways of the world without illusions that he could change it much.
Yeah, but I think Wayne was typecast to tap into another vein in the popular psyche...the tough, swaggering persona of the American soldier/cowboy, something that Hollywood and the U.S. government likely wanted to project to the world after World War II as a cultural reminder about how big our dick was.
Thers: JP Thanx!
You're welcome. Quick and dirty...
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The little lefty has seen Bridge Over River Kwai several times, but I'm not sure the message of "madness! madness!" has totally sunk in.
Pertaining to upthread, here's McCain on Vietnam. I'm not sure he wouldn't pick a fight with Vietnam and bomb just because of the memories...
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDD
Still think one of the better war films was "Soldier of Orange." Early Rutger Hauer (proving that he can act well), and directed by Paul Verhoeven well before the execrable "Starship Troopers."
Perhaps the most interesting aspect of it is that while war itself is not accidental, what happens to individuals in them often is, and decisions made for seemingly sound, personal reasons don't always turn out well.
And Spencer Tracy and Cary Grant, as much as I like them.
Karin Hussein
Wasn't it Tallulah Bankhead who once said "Oh, for God's sake, darling, I'm not an actress, I'm a movie star."
And Paul Lynde as the Indian chief..hilarious.
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Yeah...I forgot about him.
And the truth is, in a real war, dumbasses like John Wayne would either be the first ones shot or blown up, or fragged by their own people.
DuaneV, Infamous Person
I'm sure there are still plenty of Vietnam vets who laugh their asses off at "The Green Berets."
Wayne was typecast to tap into another vein in the popular psyche...the tough, swaggering persona of the American soldier/cowboy, something that Hollywood and the U.S. government likely wanted to project to the world after World War II as a cultural reminder about how big our dick was.
That's why the High and the Mighty was something of a stretch for him.
The overhead shot of the battle moving through the French town in The Longest Day was very impressive.
The battle over the church where the paratroopers get offed? Is that's it, that scene gets me every time.
Longest Day trivia: the fat Nazi on the bike at the beginning of the movie also played Auric Goldfinger in the famous Bond movie.
Catch-22 was an incredible anti-war book (and much more), too bad the film sucked.
My favorite anti-war movie is The Americanization of Emily.
All that said, if in 5 or 10 years he decides to serve, that's not the end of the world. Somebody's got to pick the cotton.
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funny how the kids like old stuff
nephew is trying to get me to play Mighty Quinn
The battle over the church where the paratroopers get offed? Is that's it, that scene gets me every time.
No, not that one. It's a daytime scene, and the camera follows overhead as the action moves through the streets.
"The Boss" also plans to perform at Obama gatherings in Ohio on Sunday and Michigan on Monday. On Oct. 16, he will join Billy Joel at an Obama fundraiser in New York City.
Springsteen cited the Iraq war, the recent economic turmoil and Hurricane Katrina as examples of the Bush administration's failures. He bookended the set with his rock classic "Promised Land" and Woody Guthrie's folk anthem, "This Land is My Land."
The Obama camp says its registration efforts have helped give Democrats a 1.2 million-voter advantage over Republicans in Pennsylvania, up from a 580,000-voter lead in 2004. The most recent Quinnipiac University poll, conducted late last month, showed Obama with a 54 percent to 39 percent lead over Republican John McCain among likely state voters.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...32D15.DTL&
tsp=1
And Paul Lynde as the Indian chief..hilarious.
Franklin Furter III, H.D.
I'll admit it: used to watch "Hollywood Squares" just to see what Lynde would say.
He was a riot.
The little lefty has seen Bridge Over River Kwai several times, but I'm not sure the message of "madness! madness!" has totally sunk in.
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The WWII movie "A Bridge Too Far" starring Michael Caine and Clif Robertson was pretty good.
Yes, but Palin communed with Chief Joseph of Nez Perce, unwittingly of course.
I'll throw in the Great Escape, not because of the POW, clever-plans part but because of what happened to the ones that were caught.
No, not that one. It's a daytime scene, and the camera follows overhead as the action moves through the streets.
Oh that one! yeah, okay. I'm with you.
But We Were Soldiers Once does have the added feature of having one of the great movie lines of all time in it.
For 100 quatloos, can anyone name Sam Elliot's line?
DWD-S☮S
Will you tell us? I haven't seen it.
And Paul Lynde as the Indian chief..hilarious.
I think I saw this when I was just a kid. How strange, how I remember him as an Indian but not the rest of it. I must have been pretty young.
All that said, if in 5 or 10 years he decides to serve, that's not the end of the world. Somebody's got to pick the cotton.
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QuentinCompson, Third Army
Yup. I served, and survived. But with the crazy motherfuckers who have been running this country lately, I don't like to send off my one and only for waste.
The WWII movie "A Bridge Too Far" starring Michael Caine and Clif Robertson was pretty good.
Uncle Fester Lurks
I was just about to mention it, because no one else had. I love that movie.
Catch-22 was an incredible anti-war book (and much more), too bad the film sucked.
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I remember watching that and was like WTF! when the plane propeller cut that guy in half on the dock.
But We Were Soldiers Once does have the added feature of having one of the great movie lines of all time in it.
For 100 quatloos, can anyone name Sam Elliot's line?
DWD-S☮S
"Any of you sumbitches call me grandpa...and I'll kill you."
Here is McCain's world view. All the red gets to be nuked. Then we'll have world peace.
Right?
Who ever gets to the wall, stop & say Hi, to Ruff. He was my hooch mate for a month or so.
He took my place in Tra Cu, blew himself up, burning 'empty' mortar boxes.
OK, I've just found Blazing Saddles online and I'm watching it. I don't think I've seen it before.
The little lefty has seen Bridge Over River Kwai several times, but I'm
not sure the message of "madness! madness!" has totally sunk in.
Too funny, I just rewatched that this afternoon (Ericka had to work).
forgot link:
http://thewall-usa.com/info.asp?...asp?
recid=44792
"Any of you sumbitches call me grandpa...and I'll kill you."
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
That voice of his just kills me.
For 100 quatloos, can anyone name Sam Elliot's line?
DWD-S☮S
Will you tell us? I haven't seen it.
ellroon, Obama/Biden 08
When the American Soldiers are pinned down and surrounded by the enemy and cut off from their supply lines, Colonel Moore (Mel Gibson) turns to his Sgt Major (Sam Elliot) and says, "Now, I know how Custer felt" and the Sgt Major says, "Custer was a _____."
OK, I've just found Blazing Saddles online and I'm watching it. I don't think I've seen it before.
[farts]
The little lefty has seen Bridge Over River Kwai several times, but I'm
not sure the message of "madness! madness!" has totally sunk in.
Mmmm. David Lean movies!
Custer was a ni?
"Any of you sumbitches call me grandpa...and I'll kill you."
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
That voice of his just kills me.
MP
I think Sam Elliott's voice is teh sexy.
And he looked sooooooooo hot in "Mask"
Here is McCain's world view. All the red gets to be nuked. Then we'll have world peace.
Right?
Einstein: "I do not know with what weapons World War Three will be fought. But, World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones."
[farts]
NTodd, Famous Person
Well, I've seen THAT scene.
OK, I've just found Blazing Saddles online and I'm watching it. I don't think I've seen it before.
[farts]
Excuse me while I whip this out.
Custer was a pussy, is what the sergeant said.
Good grief. Forgot the very excellent Das Boot (The Boat) about German submariners. Excellent.
I was just about to mention it, because no one else had. I love that movie.
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Heh...just don't mention the Vikings, please do not mention the Vikings. 3/4's of Vikings fans want coach Brad Childresses head on a platter along with his "kick ass" offense (his words from last year when criticized)
OK, I've just found Blazing Saddles online and I'm watching it. I don't think I've seen it before.
Ali's team of mavrix
You're going to get about 50% more allusions around here after you see that
DB, I went into the Kansas Air Guard because I wasn't in any hurry to go see SE Asia up close, and managed to get a slot as a Flight Simulator tech. I figured, rightly, that even if they sent the planes and pilots that they wouldn't tear down the sim and send it, and even if they did that I at least would be in air conditioning.
So I served (and my full 6 years) just fine in the middle of Kansas.
I would like to extend a laurel, and hardy handshake to our new...
Damn! The first part of this is amazingly interesting and good.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news..._maverick/
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OK, I've just found Blazing Saddles online and I'm watching it. I don't think I've seen it before.
[farts]
Excuse me while I whip this out.
Anon, chips and salsa | 10.04.08 - 10:51 pm | #
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"Santa Maria, it's Mongo!"
I love it when Mongo comes riding into town on an Ox and knocks out the horse.
"Mongo likes beans!"
atablarasa: So I served (and my full 6 years) just fine in the middle of Kansas.
My brother did something similar; he was in the Georgia NG, and trained dudes on big artillery pieces.
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Badges?? We don't need no stinkin' badges!
enjoy, ali. It's pretty funny.
Custer was a pussy, is what the sergeant said.
MP
100 Quatloos - but seeing it and hearing it makes it very memorable.
"Santa Maria, it's Mongo!"
I love it when Mongo comes riding into town on an Ox and knocks out the horse.
"Mongo likes beans!"
Mongo just pawn in game of life.
So I served (and my full 6 years) just fine in the middle of Kansas.
atablarasa
:golf clap:
I wan only in for two years, served in Germany thank god not Vietnam. For years after getting out, I had recurring dreams that they came and took me back into the Army. I am not made for military life.
"Too Jewish."
Diplomatic Spook: I don't like it. First time out a whole battalion gets massacred?
Army Intelligence Officer: You think this is a massacre?
Diplomatic Spook: I call losing a lot of draftees a bad week. Losing a Colonel's a massacre.
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Good grief. Forgot the very excellent Das Boot (The Boat) about German submariners. Excellent.
Watch it with the sub(heh)titles, not the dubbing. The English voices are annoying.
James Clavell wrote the screenplay for The Great Escape. He was the POW that McCain wanted to be.
That's it! Bush comes back as dental plaque.
Gromit | 10.04.08 - 10:04 pm
slime mold. did any of you see the igNobel prize awards Thursday night?
From that link I posted above: This is the story of the real John McCain, the one who has been hiding in plain sight. It is the story of a man who has consistently put his own advancement above all else, a man willing to say and do anything to achieve his ultimate ambition: to become commander in chief, ascending to the one position that would finally enable him to outrank his four-star father and grandfather.
In its broad strokes, McCain's life story is oddly similar to that of the current occupant of the White House. John Sidney McCain III and George Walker Bush both represent the third generation of American dynasties. Both were born into positions of privilege against which they rebelled into mediocrity. Both developed an uncanny social intelligence that allowed them to skate by with a minimum of mental exertion. Both struggled with booze and loutish behavior. At each step, with the aid of their fathers' powerful friends, both failed upward. And both shed their skins as Episcopalian members of the Washington elite to build political careers as self-styled, ranch-inhabiting Westerners who pray to Jesus in their wives' evangelical churches.
In one vital respect, however, the comparison is deeply unfair to the current president: George W. Bush was a much better pilot.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news..._maverick/
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Diplomatic Spook: I call losing a lot of draftees a bad week. Losing a Colonel's a massacre.
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QuentinCompson, Third Army
3/4's of Vikings fans want coach Brad Childresses head on a platter along with his "kick ass" offense
I can imagine. I've pretty much said my piece on the subject of the vikes, and their offense...
I've always had this dream to write "All I Really Need To Know I Learned from Watching Blazing Saddles"
New bumper sticker idea.
I'm the one Bill O Reily warned you about.
I love how Harvey Kormann was sitting behind his desk thinking aloud, and breaks the fourth wall by looking into the camera and saying "Why am I talking to you?"
Watch it with the sub(heh)titles, not the dubbing. The English voices are annoying.
NTodd, Famous Person
No other way to watch it.
I've always had this dream to write "All I Really Need To Know I Learned from Watching Blazing Saddles"
You've been with thousands of men, again and again?
But, World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones." montag
sticks sux ...
I've always had this dream to write "All I Really Need To Know I Learned from Watching Blazing Saddles"
atablarasa
YOu could follow that up with "Everything Else I've Needed to Know I Learned from Watching Airplane!"
I won a sailboat race series todAy by 1 second. Yikes.
Frank Rich has a scary Palin column. Unfortunately, I think it's all true.
Check out the last two sentences:
But the debate reminded Republicans once again that it’s Palin, not McCain, who is their last hope for victory.
You have to wonder how long it will be before they plead with him to think of his health, get out of the way and pull the ultimate stunt of flipping the ticket. Palin, we can be certain, wouldn’t even blink.
After all that, off to kill things on my video games! Good night you wonderful people!
In one vital respect, however, the comparison is deeply unfair to the current president: George W. Bush was a much better pilot.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news...ws..._maverick/
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OUCH! LMAO! I hope old Johnny reads it. That should set off his short fuse!
MikeJ, you're naked.
Ah, there's so many oddball war films... "Murphy's War," which does obsession and revenge pretty well. "Johnny Got His Gun," Timothy Bottoms' very first film. "What Did You Do In the War, Daddy?." The roar from the crowd in the base theater at Schofield Barracks was quite funny when Dick Shawn stands to attention and says, "Cleanliness is next to Schofield Barracks," and falls over the railing. "Castle Keep," another rather bizarre war tale.
sticks sux ...
Laaaaady
When I'm with you I'm smiling....
Sorry, that's styx.
Watch it with the sub(heh)titles, not the dubbing. The English voices are annoying.
NTodd, Famous Person
I HATE dubbing.
Watch it with the sub(heh)titles, not the dubbing. The English voices are annoying.
NTodd, Famous Person
No other way to watch it.
ellroon, Obama/Biden 08 | Homepage | 10.04.08 - 10:57 pm
Besides the excellent sound track, the occasional bit of English you hear on the original track is MUCH more effective.
I won a sailboat race series todAy by 1 second. Yikes.
sidhra | 10.04.08 - 10:58 pm
Congrats.
You're lucky haloscan wasn't keeping time.
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"Castle Keep," another rather bizarre war tale.
Did that one have ghosts and shit in it?
MikeJ, you're naked.
Eeek. That's what i get for commenting elsewhere with different email addy.
bbl
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Ah, there's so many oddball war films..
Oddest of all?
1941
Sorry, that's styx.
[Cartman singing Come Sail Away]
You've been with thousands of men, again and again?
Umm, I *said* I spent 6 years in the KANG!
Longest Day trivia: the fat Nazi on the bike at the beginning of the movie also played Auric Goldfinger in the famous Bond movie.
Anon, chips and salsa
Gert Frobe.
Mokay. Time to throw some food together. Very enjoyable chat! Thank youse!
But the debate reminded Republicans once again that it’s Palin, not McCain, who is their last hope for victory.
A woman....good grief, that must KILL them!
Now is a time of great decision / Are we to stay or up and quit? / There's no avoiding this conclusion: / Our town is turning into shit. Amen
Gert Frobe.
Bless you!
Ah, there's so many oddball war films..
King of Hearts.
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Oddest of all?
1941
smalfish
Critics trashed it.
I thought it was a riot.
Wow! We ignored the E troll and it actually scurried away! Drinks for all!
Castle Keep did not have ghosts in it that I remember. Great side story with the baker's wife and a GI who had been a baker. Burt Lancaster, IIRC.
The Train
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I use "You'd do it for Randolph Scott!" all the time. Usually gets my family amused enough to do whatever I'm pestering them about.
We ignored the E troll
Wasn't difficult
Wow! We ignored the E troll and it actually scurried away! Drinks for all!
Uncle Fester Lurks
It'll be back under yet another nym.
1941-fun to watch 40 million (1980s) dollars worth of property destruction.
Gert Frobe.
Bless you!
Tlazolteotl, CCd
I thought you were gonna say, "Gesuntheit".
Gesundheit!
The McCain campaign:
"CAN we defeat our enemies?
Or are we just jerking off?"
Gert Frobe.
I also remember him from "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines".
Oddest of all?
Not odd, but low-key and surprising.
A Midnight Clear.
Contains one absolutely "oh shit" moment when a couple U.S. soldiers come into a clearing, talking away, and the camera pulls back to see them in the sights of a couple Nazi riflemen. The U.S. soldiers realize this just as you do and the reaction is crystaline in its pure emotion.
a GI who had been a baker
Peter Falk.
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Bless you!
Tlazolteotl, CCd
I thought you were gonna say, "Gesuntheit".
Didn't he?
1941-fun to watch 40 million (1980s) dollars worth of property destruction.
The guy who shoots his cannon through his house. That was fraking hilarious. Nothing left of it in the end.
My favorite WWII films, besides "The Great Escape", are sub films: "Run Silent, Run Deep" with Clark Gable, Burt Lancaster and Jack Warden; and "The Enemy Below" with Robert Mitchum and Curt Jurgens.
thanks, and i only mess with Haloscan time.
The guy who shoots his cannon through his house. That was fraking hilarious. Nothing left of it in the end.
smalfish
Ned Beatty, IIRC
Wow! We ignored the E troll and it actually scurried away! Drinks for all!
Uncle Fester Lurks
yeah, but there are still a couple of obnoxious ones lurking!
She did. Thanks, Tlaz.
Battleground is the greatest WWII movie ever made.
1941..the opening scene where the young Japanese sub sailor opens the hatch and sees the naked woman on the periscope, then screams "Hollywood!" and gets bitch-slapped by his commanding officer..pretty funny.
Ned Beatty, IIRC
Yep. He was SURE he had the Japs dead to rights!
In one vital respect, however, the comparison is deeply unfair to the current president: George W. Bush was a much better pilot.
That one's gonna leave a mark!
You're welcome. Quick and dirty...
Appropriate for Hewitt. Should be up now or in a minute.
A few great Gregory Peck war films..
"12 O'Clock High" and "the Guns of Navarone".
Did that one have ghosts and shit in it?
As I recall, no, but, it was quite surreal. One of the American GIs has a love affair with a Volkswagen, there are very strange people wandering the streets (sort of a downbeat "King of Hearts" feel to that), while one of the GIs is an art historian and the castle in question is full of priceless art, so, he's obsessed with saving the artwork.
Battleground is the greatest WWII movie ever made.
MikeJ
Don't know the film. For greatest, I'd nominate "Longest Day" and "Big Red One".
QuentinCompson: Thanks; I'm pretty sure that's right. Falk was the baker.
"Bitte, baby! You're making a German spectacle of yourself!"
Love. That. Movie.
The McCain campaign:
"CAN we defeat our enemies?
Or are we just jerking off?"
Terry C, Obama/Biden 2008
Rich Lowry?
Just jerking off.
DD, if you like sub films, how about On the Beach?
Mrs DWD and I watched LOST HORIZON this weekend. That is a movie that badly needs a remaking.
The story is really an excellent one but the movie is uneven and the acting is not good and the music was dreadful and really, it could be a lovely story if it were done by today's standards.
Big Red One is very good. Battleground was shot in '48 I think, and the GIs in the film hate the war, They see the necessity, but it's the least rah-rah flick of the era. Shows how people fight for their buddies, not any ideals.
Thers: Appropriate for Hewitt. Should be up now or in a minute.
I'll watch for it.
(man, that shower felt good!)
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Longest Day trivia: the fat Nazi on the bike at the beginning of the movie also played Auric Goldfinger in the famous Bond movie.
Anon, chips and salsa
Gert Frobe.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. | 10.04.08 - 11:00 pm | #
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But you name the comedy that had the character named Gert B. Frobe in it? Or the actor who played him?
Hint: a Hemi, mullets, white trash parents, the actor liked playing Russian Roulette in one of his bigger movies.
Big Red One is very good.
Sears, unfortunately, agrees.
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speaking of war, I met Gen. Wesley Clark yesterday (I am physically 'greater' than him)
yeah, but there are still a couple of obnoxious ones lurking!
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Woo hoo the other cowardly name stealer is here! Now I will ignore you.
In one vital respect, however, the comparison is deeply unfair to the current president: George W. Bush was a much better pilot.
That one's gonna leave a mark!
I would question that, since Bush flew almost no time at all, and was sent back to flight simulators before he stopped flying altogether.
And, there's the persistent rumor that he stopped flying because he did crash one.
M'self, I think it was just a matter of him quitting before he either killed himself or someone else.
Gert B. Frobe
Gesundheit!
well, good night peeps. I'm exhausted, long day today.
"12 O'Clock High" and "the Guns of Navarone".
I love "12 o'Clock High"! Peck teamed up with some of the same cast and crew (plus Karl Malden and Skip Homier) for a western, "The Gunfighter," which is also great.
Evening, all.
Been away most of the day -- anything irksome going on I should know about?
[Cartman singing Come Sail Away]
Tlazolteotl, CCd |
a few yrs ago elder son sat down at the piano and started figuring this out. After about 60 seconds, I'm like,"that's styx" and he's like "no, it's cartman."
DD, if you like sub films, how about On the Beach?
atablarasa
(* shudder *)
The scene with the parents talking about giving their kid a suicide pill?
(* brrr... *)
Oh, yeah - put me down as a fan of "Battleground."
Peck's also good in "Pork Chop Hill".
Gert B. Frobe
Gesundheit!
Tlazolteotl, CCd
Say, isn't this where I came in...?
"Castle Keep," another rather bizarre war tale.
I love Castle Keep. It has one of the best lines of all time in it (and very fitting in this day and age): "You think I'm degenerate -- or worse, French."
On the Beach was a great book, but the movie was actually better.
Say, isn't this where I came in...?
And how are you this evening?
I am vertically 'greater' than him
Freed your topology.
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Been away most of the day -- anything irksome going on I should know about?
Obama is a terrorist.
The scene with the parents talking about giving their kid a suicide pill?
(* brrr... *)
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Many racist republicans are talking about doing this very same thing when Obama becomes president.
Obscure one: "The War Lover," an early one of Steve McQueen's.
On the Beach was a great book, but the movie was actually better.
Never been a big fan of the movie... supposedly, there's a "director's cut" that's longer, but lost...