But I don't think we are talking about policy at all. We are talking about psychology. And it isn't confined to the neocons, although they gave this psychology an intellectual veneer. The conservatives generally, evidently including members of the top military brass, seem to be driven by a primitive fear not of attack or physical violence, but of humiliation. This is what makes them tick and it's the essence of what's gone wrong since 9/11.
JeffCO |
06.23.07 - 5:24 pm | #
Hmm, I like this link on Media Matters better:
Noonan: Hillary Clinton "has to prove she's a woman"
I guess having a cootchie isn't enough.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 5:25 pm | #
the neocons, although they gave this psychology an intellectual veneer. The conservatives generally, evidently including members of the top military brass, seem to be driven by a primitive fear not of attack or physical violence, but of humiliation.
We broke the whole internets!
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 5:26 pm | #
Two suspected Kurdish separatists have rammed an oil-filled lorry into a police station in eastern Turkey in a suicide attack, army sources have said.
After the explosion late on Saturday, the station in Tunceli province was attacked by other members of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) and the army counter attacked, the sources said.
The two separatists in the lorry were killed but no other details were available on the death toll.
Hours earlier, thousands of Turks had protested against the PKK on the streets of Istanbul, after a call by the army for a public show of opposition to separatist violence.
Noonan: Hillary Clinton "has to prove she's a woman"
You first, Nooners.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 5:27 pm | #
The American Media continues to be a rightwing dominated desert with a few liberal oasis in between.
News should be accurate, unbiased and complete, instead we get the twisted lies of the Bushboy regime, gilded and filtered through Murdoch and the gang that can't shoot straight at FUX NEWS.
Rudy - Free Woody |
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06.23.07 - 5:27 pm | #
Atrios just phones it in now, doesn't he? Just like all the other A-listers.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 5:27 pm | #
I guess having a cootchie isn't enough.
Nah, you have to show that you are sorry for having a cootchie and that some man has complete and absolute control of your cootchie. And, goddess forfend you should act as if you have a brain and/or a concept of your own.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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06.23.07 - 5:28 pm | #
Noonan: Hillary Clinton "has to prove she's a woman"
I guess having a cootchie isn't enough.
Allie
We prefer the term "hoohah", thank you.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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06.23.07 - 5:28 pm | #
On Fox & Friends, hosts Steve Doocy and Gretchen Carlson agreed that the study shows a "media bias in the country" and that it also showed there isn't one at Fox News
Yeah, right.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 5:29 pm | #
Sounds like the union had to cave to Delphi just to keep their jobs.
mer |
06.23.07 - 5:29 pm | #
You also need boobs, PMS and two X-chromosomes.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Do you do DNA tests before your dates?
Allie |
06.23.07 - 5:30 pm | #
Do you do DNA tests before your dates?
Ever since I saw Gattaca.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Noonan: Hillary Clinton "has to prove she's a woman"
good lord, whats Noonnan's idea of a woman?
clearly her ideal woman is one tied to the kitchen sink
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
The people at FUX NEWS wouldn't own up to their bias under pain of dismissal from the Murdoch animal farm!
Rudy - Free Woody |
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06.23.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Do you do DNA tests before your dates?
Allie
Only since "the incident".
trifecta |
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06.23.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Hillary needs to swim with dolphins.
trifecta |
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06.23.07 - 5:32 pm | #
Nah, you have to show that you are sorry for having a cootchie and that some man has complete and absolute control of your cootchie. And, goddess forfend you should act as if you have a brain and/or a concept of your own.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
My cootchie runs wild and free like a summers breeze...
I dated a guy who had "an incident" a long time ago, when it might or might not have been more unusual. He was pretty cool about it -- to the point that I wondered What Happened once he found she had a unit instead of a hoohah . . .
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Ever since I saw Gattaca.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Hey, if you watch that again, know that a lot of that movie was filmed right where I worked at Cal Poly!
www.csupomona.com
Yes, it did look pretty much like a prison.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 5:34 pm | #
:...wait."
--Allie
Can I have some of what you're drinking, please?
mer |
06.23.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Ronald Reagan with breasts.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
Wasn't that Margaret Thatcher?
Rudy - Free Woody |
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06.23.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Hillary needs to swim with dolphins.
trifecta
Bush needs to sleep with the fishes.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Well this woman is going to take her hoohah to the take out hamburger joint after dinner make haha with the hoohah.
ql-white haired |
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06.23.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Ronald Reagan with breasts.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now
Ronald Reagan with breasts.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now
Jeaane Kirkpatrick?
olexicon, at woik
Karen Hughes?
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 5:35 pm | #
From an article about the war wounded:
"Joseph "Jay" Briseno, 24, of Manassas Park, Va., was shot in the back of the neck by an Iraqi in the early months of the war. One of the most severely wounded, he is now a quadriplegic, on a breathing machine, blind and unable to speak, but aware of what has happened to him."
Think about that existence for a minute. You can't see. You can't talk. You can't move anything below your neck, and you can't breathe on your own. How do you not lose your mind like that?
W and Cheney should have to care for this guy - personally - for the rest of his life.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
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06.23.07 - 5:35 pm | #
Ronald Reagan with breasts.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
Wasn't that Margaret Thatcher?
Rudy - Free Woody
Oooh, jeez.
I forgot.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 5:35 pm | #
Greenwald has a post today on how every insurgent in Iraq has now magically turned into an al Qeada operative as far as the press is concerned...
That the Bush administration, and specifically its military commanders, decided to begin using the term "Al Qaeda" to designate "anyone and everyeone we fight against or kill in Iraq" is obvious. All of a sudden, every time one of the top military commanders describes our latest operations or quantifies how many we killed, the enemy is referred to, almost exclusively now, as "Al Qaeda."
But what is even more notable is that the establishment press has followed right along, just as enthusiastically. I don't think the New York Times has published a story about Iraq in the last two weeks without stating that we are killing "Al Qaeda fighters," capturing "Al Qaeda leaders," and every new operation is against "Al Qaeda."
The Times -- typically in the form of the gullible and always-government-trusting "reporting" of Michael Gordon, though not only -- makes this claim over and over, as prominently as possible, often without the slightest questioning, qualification, or doubt. If your only news about Iraq came from The New York Times, you would think that the war in Iraq is now indistinguishable from the initial stage of the war in Afghanistan -- that we are there fighting against the people who hijacked those planes and flew them into our buildings: "Al Qaeda."
What is so amazing about this new rhetorical development -- not only from our military, but also from our "journalists" -- is that, for years, it was too shameless and false even for the Bush administration to use. Even at the height of their propaganda offensives about the war, the furthest Bush officials were willing to go was to use the generic term "terrorists" for everyone we are fighting in Iraq, as in: "we cannot surrender to the terrorists by withdrawing" and "we must stay on the offensive against terrorists."
If anybody needs me to control their cootchie, just holler. I'm available for a variety of services.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 5:36 pm | #
Damn you, Rudy...
Have a scotch.
Can I have some of what you're drinking, please?
mer
Yes. You like scotch, right?
Allie |
06.23.07 - 5:36 pm | #
"Well this woman is going to take her hoohah to the take out hamburger joint after dinner make haha with the hoohah."
--ql-white haired
Sounds delicious and fun. Have a good time.
mer |
06.23.07 - 5:37 pm | #
Is ErinPDX about? I think I'll be ready to show her something, tomorrow (finally).
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 5:37 pm | #
only a few months old, but already going on walks, I think the photo was taken up somewhere in Scotland
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 5:37 pm | #
Is ErinPDX about? I think I'll be ready to show her something, tomorrow (finally).
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Jeffraham Prestonian
NO FLIRTING!
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 5:38 pm | #
If anybody needs me to control their cootchie, just holler. I'm available for a variety of services.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
You scared Annieangel's cootchie away, so I'm not sure you should be trusted with cootchie-patrol.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 5:38 pm | #
NTodd's offer to be a "gynecologist without portfolio" is typical of his sacrificial and perverted nature.
Rudy - Free Woody |
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06.23.07 - 5:38 pm | #
"Yes. You like scotch, right?"
--Allie
Yes. Too much. That's why I don't keep it in the house very often.
mer |
06.23.07 - 5:38 pm | #
my sister and I always said that if Judith had a child, it would be born with walking boots on
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 5:38 pm | #
You scared Annieangel's cootchie away, so I'm not sure you should be trusted with cootchie-patrol.
Allie
If only that were true.
I wish Alan Butler would disappear permanently.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 5:39 pm | #
In the end, the poetry that you love is what will save you.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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06.23.07 - 5:40 pm | #
Not the dreaded Coca Cola company!
Aren't they run by Cheneychins? Torture-man extraordinaire!
Rudy - Free Woody |
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06.23.07 - 5:41 pm | #
NTodd's offer to be a "gynecologist without portfolio" is typical of his sacrificial and perverted nature.
Rudy
Look, he wants to share his love with women, like Chimpy McStagger said. NTodd is a giver.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 5:41 pm | #
I ain't got no coochie, but you can listen to my pussy, if you care.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 5:41 pm | #
Eight U.S. Soldiers Killed in Iraq
BAGHDAD, June 23 -- Eight U.S. soldiers died Saturday in Iraq, including seven killed in roadside bombings, the U.S. military said, bringing to 30 the number of U.S. servicemen whose deaths were announced in the last six days. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
hadenough |
06.23.07 - 5:41 pm | #
That digby post is rather an astoundingly clear piece of writing.
spinoza |
06.23.07 - 5:41 pm | #
That would tend to be pretty rough on the cootchie.
V for Virginia
I like Curley's voice.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 5:44 pm | #
I ain't got no coochie, but you can listen to my pussy, if you care.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Siamese. You gotta love 'em.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 5:44 pm | #
Neighborhood Pussy
Moonbootica, Ninjabi
Looks like a Turkish Angora.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 5:44 pm | #
I have a real grocery-getter coming in the mail, soon, too.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 5:44 pm | #
Well, I was interested to see Doocy's and Carlson's donation record so I went to opensecrets.
Doocy does not make donations. Carlson, on the other hand, was all over those Democratic candidates. John Kerry, Lois Murphy, Paul Hackett, and MoveOn.
Well done, Ms. Carlson, take their money and give it to Democrats. And I think all Faux News viewers should know about it.
Snow, Contrary |
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06.23.07 - 5:45 pm | #
Terry C: I like Curley's voice.
Curly sounds more like a normal cat. Well, as normal as a castrati cat can sound.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 5:45 pm | #
I'm off to open a bottle of chardonnay and share dinner with some friends.
I can forget about Iraq and the other horrors Bushboy has wrought for a while.
I hesitate to point this out for fear of somehow instantly causing it not to be the case anymore, but lately this place hasn't been nearly as badly infested with fuckwit trolls as it had been in past times. It used to be that there was always one or more of them spewing crap on every thread, and always people who never seemed to tire of engaging them. These days, they're barely noticable.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 5:49 pm | #
Sallyh: Jeffraham, Curly and Mikey sound shockingly alike. Does he ever do the Extra Long Loud Cry?
At least once a day, yeah. Amazing the amount of air those lungs will hold!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 5:50 pm | #
Blerb, come round late at night. For some reason, they're released from their cages.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 5:50 pm | #
Blerb, come round late at night. For some reason, they're released from their cages.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
Computer time art the Arkham Asylum?
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 5:51 pm | #
blerb forgets that I am a troll.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 5:51 pm | #
Blerb, come round late at night. For some reason, they're released from their cages.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
Uh, no thanks !
I guess parenthood and its attendant early schedule has its advantages....
blerb |
06.23.07 - 5:52 pm | #
NTodd, that goes without saying
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 5:52 pm | #
Aw, but you're such a cute, lovable troll!
blerb |
06.23.07 - 5:52 pm | #
Blerb, you have little ones?
I've got the grandbaby till tomorrow. Good times.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 5:53 pm | #
Curly sounds more like a normal cat. Well, as normal as a castrati cat can sound.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
you've seen steve. steve is the mike tyson of cats. even before some "friendly" neighbors decided the honors should be bestowed upon my magnificent beast.
and somehow this seems apropos of the post's topic.
charley |
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06.23.07 - 5:53 pm | #
Diane, sadly, too early for cocktails.
But stick around
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 5:53 pm | #
Did you know washington journalists contribute to democratic campaigns by a ration of 9 to 1?
dee |
06.23.07 - 5:54 pm | #
Just one 5 year-old son. He had his forst T-ball practice today, or rather his fist session of Baseball Indoctrination Camp. He did pretty well, to my surprise. Doesn't take after me, apparently.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 5:54 pm | #
(In context, it is clear that Morris misspoke and meant to say that Giuliani is the Republican most likely to defeat a Democrat in the general election.)
Defeat a Dem!!!
Well that must really leave the Southern Christain right and the Catholic Church in big time limbo, I mean, I know that Rudy isn't Catholic, so the church spar us all the hate talk about denying communion to the new liberal vestige of the Christian conservative Party, BUT if Rudy is the "gutted" version of what is left of the GOP, who is supposed to win the general election - you would think Republicans would show more EXTREME DISLIKE for Bush and Cheney, having gutted the GOP like a dead, smelly ole fish, that nobody wants anything to do with anymore.
me-again |
06.23.07 - 5:54 pm | #
man, I got some spelling prollems.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 5:55 pm | #
Blerb, five's a great age.
any interest in science yet?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 5:55 pm | #
too early for cocktails.
Mais, non! C'est le weekend!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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06.23.07 - 5:55 pm | #
Did you know washington journalists contribute to democratic campaigns by a ration of 9 to 1?
dee
Ladies and Gentleman, I present Allen Butler aka Shoelimpy.
Richard |
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06.23.07 - 5:57 pm | #
Blerb, yeah, I worry about the grandbaby. She loves numbers, counting, sorting, that sort of thing. May the goddess keep her safe
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 5:57 pm | #
man, I got some spelling prollems.
blerb | 06.23.07 - 5:55 pm | #
It is a ratio, fuckwit. And yes we knew that. We own the media. Including Faux. Gretchen Carlson supports Democratic candidates and MoveOn. Everyone does, including Sean Hannity. Your impression of the world is a false vision we have constructed to keep you distracted.
Snow, Contrary |
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06.23.07 - 5:57 pm | #
These days, they're barely noticable.
blerb
I think it has something to do with the utter impossibility of defending the conservative agenda.
The comments seem to be way down over at FreeRepublic.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 5:57 pm | #
Made Mrs. DWD's favorite supper and have it cooking for the requisite 75 minutes.
Scalloped potatoes with ham.
DWD |
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06.23.07 - 6:03 pm | #
Babies get smart by being talked to, being listened to, and by hearing music.
That's my theory.
Allie | 06.23.07 - 6:01 pm | #
indeed
when ever my niece visits here, we always make sure she is involved, chatting to her and generally being engaging
telling her what we're doing and so forth
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 6:03 pm | #
I wish I could spell.
spinoza |
06.23.07 - 6:03 pm | #
It would appear that a lot of people calling themselves Democrats listen to the rat wang rantings of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage and the like. Why?
Good question.
Also apparent that corporate bucks aren't likely to support liberal talk radio.
One thing that always puzzled me was how the wingers managed to monopolize this medium. Unions once owned radio stations, but where sold to the propafuckinganda networks like Clear Channel. Wingers put there money up and bought a massive machine in talk radio, while liberals sat on their hollywood asses and let it happen.
Clinton also played into this monopoly by signing away the airwaves to corporate whores.
hilldick |
06.23.07 - 6:03 pm | #
Spinoza, I doubt Mrs. Spinoza cares if you can spell, but probably wishes you could clean up after yourself.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:04 pm | #
Two spinoza cats entwined (illegal in most southern states):
evening one and all from babysitting land, where the munchkin is napping, the bottles are cleaned and ready for formula, and the fresh onesie is ready to go.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
06.23.07 - 6:05 pm | #
"Media Matters"? :wtf:
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Jeffraham Prestonian
media, castrated.
as with the insurance discussion down below, i blame reagan.
but somebody had to spread their legs. and that is on our fellow citizens. government/media you deserve. yada, yada...
charley |
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06.23.07 - 6:05 pm | #
Mrs. Ibrahim, how is the little beauty? Maddy is napping at the moment. The one certain consequence of taking her in the pool
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:06 pm | #
Princess got out, so Curly's pining through the window, again.
Man, I'm way behind on "Days of Our Eschaton". So...LarryElvis had a sex change operation?
Elmer, PHD |
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06.23.07 - 6:06 pm | #
fuck.
they found jessie davis's body. arrested bobby cutts.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.23.07 - 6:06 pm | #
evening one and all from babysitting land, where the munchkin is napping, the bottles are cleaned and ready for formula, and the fresh onesie is ready to go.
My butt could use a wipe...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:06 pm | #
LarryElvis looks like he';s playing the piano
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 6:07 pm | #
"Two spinoza cats entwined (illegal in most southern states):
--spinoza
she is adorable, and we are camped out in a hotel room as it is 91 degrees outside.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
06.23.07 - 6:07 pm | #
charley: media, castrated.
I'm ashamed that I needed you to explain it.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 6:07 pm | #
Jeffraham, it would appear that your electronics are unsafe around any cats
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:07 pm | #
it's a thong
dirk gently, sociopathetic
AAAAAaaaaa! I mean OOooooohhh!
telling her what we're doing and so forth
Moonbootica, Ninjabi
I used to pay my older daughter 10 cents a page to read to my younger daughter. Quality time for sisters, and spending money for the pre-teen...
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:07 pm | #
My butt could use a wipe...
anything for you, ntodd.
I am flying solo here, as Ibrahim flew up to DC for the ALA Conference.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
06.23.07 - 6:08 pm | #
Elmer: So...LarryElvis had a sex change operation?
No; Princess is my neighbor's part-Siamese girl kitteh.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 6:08 pm | #
they found jessie davis's body. arrested bobby cutts.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
they found jessie davis's body. arrested bobby cutts.
dirk gently
I am sorry she is dead and all, but stories like these not being covered might give the media more time to actually cover news and shit.
trifecta |
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06.23.07 - 6:09 pm | #
When you feed the troll, the troll wins.
Richard
And it makes Baby Jebus cry
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:09 pm | #
The baby?
Cutts was charged with two counts of murder.
Snow, Contrary |
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06.23.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Sallyh: Jeffraham, it would appear that your electronics are unsafe around any cats
The only destruction to-date has been the pair of Sony headphones that Curly chewed through the wires on, long, long ago.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Flunky, I'm thinking he might be enjoying that nice property he bought in Paraguay with the Reverend Moon in the near future.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Sad thing is that the nations cable teevee and radio is becomming dumber each year. My local radio consist of rat wang talk, rat wang christian republican horseshit, dumber than dirt sports talk, rightward drifting NPR. Teevee--5 christofascist stations, 3 corporate news stations, 2 wall st propaganda thieving staions,5 local dumb as dirt sitcom pushers.
hilldick |
06.23.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Sorry, that's wrong. I know it's terrible to kill a pregnant woman--hell, it's terrible to kill anyone. But I think charging someone with the murder of a fetus is taking us to all the wrong places (and I'm not talking about Spinoza's sofa).
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:11 pm | #
Elmer, it's early here on the Left Coast.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
hilldick, sounds like L.A. local programming.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:12 pm | #
they found jessie davis's body. arrested bobby cutts.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
There's a shocker.
Lovely lady. Still doesn't warrant all the fucking coverage.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:12 pm | #
Sorry, that's wrong. I know it's terrible to kill a pregnant woman--hell, it's terrible to kill anyone. But I think charging someone with the murder of a fetus is taking us to all the wrong places (and I'm not talking about Spinoza's sofa).
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I know, and I agree. But she was nine months pregnant, so the baby suffocated. I wish there were some way to acknowledge that fact without arming the forced-pregnancy brigade.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:13 pm | #
they found jessie davis's body. arrested bobby cutts.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
who would have predicted? and trifecta nails it.
no shame Jeffraham, rarely can i keep up. it's not 'cause i'm stupid (or even the drunkeness), it's all bits and pieces. lovely tapestry.
charley |
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06.23.07 - 6:14 pm | #
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com...ives/
014788.php
In an odd column a few months ago, Richard Cohen praised John McCain for having "a visceral hostility toward the ways of Washington's K Street lobbying crowd."
It looks the Arizona Republican has come around on the lobbyists he claims to disdain.
John McCain, who made his name attacking special interests, has more lobbyists working on his staff or as advisers than any of his competitors, Republican or Democrat.
A Huffington Post examination of the campaigns of the top three presidential candidates in each party shows that lobbyists are playing key roles in both Democratic and Republican bids -- although they are far more prevalent on the GOP side. But, all the campaigns pale in comparison to McCain's, whose rhetoric stands in sharp contrast to his conduct.
"Too often the special interest lobbyists with the fattest wallets and best access carry the day when issues of public policy are being decided," McCain asserts on his web site, declaring that he "has fought the 'revolving door' by which lawmakers and other influential officials leave their posts and become lobbyists for the special interests they have aided."
In actual practice, at least two of McCain's top advisers fit precisely the class of former elected officials he criticizes so sharply.
For the candidate who based his 2000 campaign on challenging lobbyists and "entrenched" special interests, McCain has put together quite a crew: two of Washington's most powerful, high-paid lobbyists -- Tom Loeffler and Slade Gorton -- are co-chairmen of the senator's presidential campaign. "All told," Tom Edsall reported, "there are 11 current or former lobbyists working for or advising McCain, at least double the number in any other campaign."
Richard |
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06.23.07 - 6:14 pm | #
so I know whats gonna be on Nanacy Grace and Larry king oin monday, now
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 6:14 pm | #
Princess is my neighbor's part-Siamese girl kitteh.
Allie, I think the law in CA makes sense--you're not responsible to your child, or for it, until it's born. Sounds cold, but I think it's a clear marker, and a realistic one.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:14 pm | #
But she was nine months pregnant, so the baby suffocated. I wish there were some way to acknowledge that fact without arming the forced-pregnancy brigade.
Make it an aggravating circumstance. Like a hate crime?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:15 pm | #
NTodd, I'm not an attorney; I'll leave that judgment to those who actually know (legally) what they're talking about.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:16 pm | #
I wish there were some way to acknowledge that fact without arming the forced-pregnancy brigade.
Allie
I'm of two minds about this issue myself. I can see where the slippery slope goes, but this was not really a fetus anymore.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 6:16 pm | #
I wish there were some way to acknowledge that fact without arming the forced-pregnancy brigade.
Allie
Me, too. 3 months: nowai. 9 months: different story.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:16 pm | #
Lovely lady. Still doesn't warrant all the fucking coverage.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 6:12 pm | #
Thank you Mr. Media. Now go do a podcast about it, you friggin self-indulgant ass.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 6:16 pm | #
fuck.
they found jessie davis's body. arrested bobby cutts.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Is it terrible for me to say that I have no idea who those people are?
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:17 pm | #
I believe someone said the trolls were barely noticeable anymore?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:17 pm | #
NTodd, I'm not an attorney; I'll leave that judgment to those who actually know (legally) what they're talking about.
I'm not suggesting anything about judgement of the attorneys. I'm suggesting a legal remedy for what Allie was observing.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:18 pm | #
Me, too. 3 months: nowai. 9 months: different story.
V for Virginia | 06.23.07 - 6:16 pm | #
it's the two year old i'm feeling for. and her mom.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.23.07 - 6:18 pm | #
Is it terrible for me to say that I have no idea who those people are?
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
I have managed to completely miss this story, too; just picking it up here.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:18 pm | #
now lou dobbs is talking about "the cost of the so called amnesty program"
lou, you are the one who is calling it that.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.23.07 - 6:18 pm | #
NTodd, certainly a possibility. I'm just saying I can't speak to law very well. I'm not knowledgeable there
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:19 pm | #
Allie, I think the law in CA makes sense--you're not responsible to your child, or for it, until it's born. Sounds cold, but I think it's a clear marker, and a realistic one.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I suppose. But the baby still suffered and died a horrible death, I imagine...
Make it an aggravating circumstance. Like a hate crime?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Perhaps. I haven't really given it thought.
It's like late-term abortion. It is so obviously only a last resort because I can't imagine that anyone who has carried a baby for nine months would choose that as a method of birth control, like the reich wing seems to imply. Outlawing it is stupid.
But a murderer killing a woman and a viable baby in the womb is difficult for me to categorize. The baby had all the ability to suffer and die as a born baby. But allowing punishment opens the door to forced-birth advocates.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:19 pm | #
Certainly it should be a major story locally. But with seven troops dead Iraq today, that should lead the news--cuz this will continue.
mer |
06.23.07 - 6:19 pm | #
Well, this one isn't so much a fucKwit rightard troll as an insufferable narcissistic Loonie Tune.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 6:20 pm | #
Lovely lady. Still doesn't warrant all the fucking coverage.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 6:12 pm | #
Thank you Mr. Media. Now go do a podcast about it, you friggin self-indulgant ass.
General Zod | 06.23.07 - 6:16 pm | #
Why should I do a podcast about it? And am I really more self-indulgent than you, who come here after announcing we're dead to you, as you weigh in on my podcasts?
What a fucktarded jerkburger you are, Zod. A psychotic, brainless, lonely misanthrope for whom there is no joy unless you're engaging in your faux superiority. Jesus weeps for you.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:20 pm | #
Allie, it is difficult to categorize, to be sure.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:20 pm | #
Is it terrible for me to say that I have no idea who those people are?
No more terrible than me saying I don't give a shit about this "story."
daveŠ |
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06.23.07 - 6:21 pm | #
Certainly it should be a major story locally. But with seven troops dead Iraq today, that should lead the news--cuz this will continue.
mer |
Well, see - if they covered the seven troops who were killed in Bush's Ego War, that would hurt the war effort or some kind of right wing bullshit like that.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:21 pm | #
I'm suggesting a legal remedy for what Allie was observing.
NTodd
Is it terrible for me to say that I have no idea who those people are?
No more terrible than me saying I don't give a shit about this "story."
daveŠ
I'm so old I can remember when CNN actually covered REAL news.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:21 pm | #
I'm suggesting a legal remedy for what Allie was observing.
I think is good idea to work around this dilemma.
Snow, Contrary |
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06.23.07 - 6:21 pm | #
Allie, it is difficult to categorize, to be sure.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
you could start with who made the choice.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.23.07 - 6:21 pm | #
In what part of the world is a grown man (excluding the Kennedys) called 'Bobby'?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:22 pm | #
I have had this supposition (a feeling without facts to support it) that all of these stories of this type (missing women, terrible, heinous crimes, and such) are really nothing that should even be reported and have a deleterious effect on our society because, in reality, they have no positive effect on our lives and have the negative effect of making us feel less positive about humans.
Before the carpet-bombing media mayhem monsters had their way, a story like this would either have been relegated to the back pages of the newspaper or ignored altogether. Now, it is front and center and to what effect?
DWD |
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06.23.07 - 6:22 pm | #
In what part of the world is a grown man (excluding the Kennedys) called 'Bobby'?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Oh, c'mon, you know. . .
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:22 pm | #
In what part of the world is a grown man (excluding the Kennedys) called 'Bobby'?
Police: Pregnant woman's body found; cop arrested http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/23...n.ap/
index.html
CANTON, Ohio (AP) -- Searchers recovered a body Saturday afternoon that they believe is that of Jessie Marie Davis, a pregnant woman who disappeared June 13, police said.
Bobby Cutts Jr., the father of Davis' 2-year-old son, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder, including that of Davis' unborn child, said Stark County Sheriff's Chief Deputy Rick Perez. Cutts is also believed to be the father of Davis' unborn child.
Cutts is an officer with the Canton Police Department.
The Repository newspaper in Canton reported the body was found in a lake in Summit County, not far from Davis' home in Stark County's Lake Township.
Richard |
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06.23.07 - 6:23 pm | #
Is it terrible for me to say that I have no idea who those people are?
No more terrible than me saying I don't give a shit about this "story."
daveŠ
Not at all. It is something that makes manifest what I have been thinking about in theory, is all.
I hardly ever require anyone to be interested in what interests me.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:24 pm | #
Speaking of "indulgent," why not indulge yourself with a full afternoon of admiring my mighty rod - the way mommy does?
Sorry, folks, but people get murdered all the time. It ain't national news.
Not true! America is a paradise! 'cept for Canton, OH, which is more dangerous than Baghdad.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:26 pm | #
It's a regional story at best. Sorry, folks, but people get murdered all the time. It ain't national news.
daveŠ
True, but I am interested in the ideas surrounding it. But you don't have to be.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:27 pm | #
Is it terrible for me to say that I have no idea who those people are?
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
a sign of mental health, i'd say.
i'd also be a lot more interested in the news and find it more useful if they would start chronicling the crimes and misdeeds of bush and cheney with the alacrity that they spend on missing white women.
or bill clinton's penis.
charley |
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06.23.07 - 6:27 pm | #
The searchers also stumbled across someone's marijuana patch.
Dude's gonna pissed.
did you see the story about the small plane crash into someone's back yard, investigators found mj being cultivated there? arrested a 53 year old woman who was growing it.
whom, i ask you, was she hurting?
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.23.07 - 6:27 pm | #
Sorry, folks, but people get murdered all the time. It ain't national news.
It's not so much the murder as the missing white woman aspect.
R. McGeddon |
06.23.07 - 6:28 pm | #
whom, i ask you, was she hurting?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Dirk, no one, but she may well have gotten hurt herself, especially if she's ill and needs treatment.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:28 pm | #
Richard | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 6:23 pm
It's a sad story, but for CNN, MSNBC. etc. to be devoting hours to it?
Uh-uh.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:28 pm | #
One count of murder and one of manslaughter would make more sense, but it still treats an unborn baby as born. Maybe tying it to the "past the point of viability" rule for abortions, and making it a new crime? Oh, goody, another new crime...
Elmer, PHD |
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06.23.07 - 6:28 pm | #
True, but I am interested in the ideas surrounding it. But you don't have to be.
Yeah, but they want to make us be interested by broadcasting this stuff day and night.
It's a local story.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:28 pm | #
I'm so old I can remember when CNN actually covered REAL news.
That's when Turner ran the place.
Remember that multi-part series on the history of Russia? Which he insisted on not only running once, but repeating several times?
Good times, good times...
daveŠ |
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06.23.07 - 6:29 pm | #
I don't think it's really a conspiracy to ignore the real stories. It's just another formulaic Bleeding Lede.
The middle-class pregnant white woman demographic is just what scored best in their "What type of victim of a grisly psycho murderer would you feel most interested in and sympathetic for?" consumer survey question.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 6:29 pm | #
It's not so much the murder as the missing white woman aspect.
R. McGeddon | 06.23.07 - 6:28 pm | #
missing pregnant white woman.
but i think the part of the story that sparked the interest was the two year old boy's description of what happened.
i'd also be a lot more interested in the news and find it more useful if they would start chronicling the crimes and misdeeds of bush and cheney with the alacrity that they spend on missing white women.
or bill clinton's penis.
charley
No argument from me, my friend.
You're absolutely correct.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:29 pm | #
To be honest, everything I know about the murder case, I learned from you guys.
If I gave a rat's ass, I'd verify things.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:30 pm | #
Pterodactyl is on now, that has pretty good eatage.
Harpies is on later tonight.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:31 pm | #
Now, it is front and center and to what effect?
DWD
to the effect of not telling us how many babies bush and cheney have killed. and they have been numerous.
but the "people" tune in.
charley |
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06.23.07 - 6:32 pm | #
did you see the story about the small plane crash into someone's back yard, investigators found mj being cultivated there? arrested a 53 year old woman who was growing it.
whom, i ask you, was she hurting?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
You're joking, right?
This woman cultivates a crop with the ability to cause planes to fall out of the sky, and you think there's no victim?
jac |
06.23.07 - 6:32 pm | #
What's cool about this coverage is that they explicitly compare it to Fallujah without the slightest indication that they understand Fallujah was a ghastly defeat for the US military.
Our forces are embarked on a victorious effort much like that of the French army in Moscow or at DienBienPhu, stated General Ordieno, "Just like the Japanese Navy at the battle of the Coral Sea, we're movin' and groovin'" said the General. Much of General Petraeus' strategy is based on the assumption that Iraqi insurgents will shoot themselves rather than fight: "Just as the victorious KMT forces swept the communists to the sea", US officials said, "and Gordon's soldiers at Khartoum, we have the tools and the intent to win big".
rootless2, discount-psychiatri |
06.23.07 - 6:32 pm | #
Yeah, but they want to make us be interested by broadcasting this stuff day and night.
It's a local story.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
It has nothing to do with you, unless you're the assignment editor for the MSM.
It's a regional story at best. Sorry, folks, but people get murdered all the time. It ain't national news.
daveŠ
I'm sorry. I'll try to be less interested in abortion rights vs. fetal viability and more interested on stuff for sale on cafepress...
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:32 pm | #
CNN
Theological conservatives believe gay relationships violate Scripture, while more liberal Christians emphasize the Bibles social justice teachings.
I have no idea what the fuck that is supposed to mean.
Stunt Woman
CNN caters to fundies now. It doesn't have to make sense.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:32 pm | #
Someone elsewhere said earlier there was a Bruce Campbell marathon on SciFi, but I was busy with other thangs.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 6:32 pm | #
Pterodactyl is on now, that has pretty good eatage.
Harpies is on later tonight.
Ah, Stan "Never met a paycheck I didn't like!" Lee's "Harpies", AKA "One Weekend a Month Army of Darkness."
Supreme Commander Thor |
06.23.07 - 6:33 pm | #
Stunt Woman, it translates to, fake Christians are hung up on sex, real ones interested in following Biblical precepts.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:33 pm | #
Ooh, Pterodactyl!
followed by reign of the gargoyles.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:33 pm | #
I'm so old I can remember when CNN actually covered REAL news.
That's when Turner ran the place.
'SNC' Satellite News Channel and worse... I knew that without Googling it.
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 6:33 pm | #
I'm sorry. I'll try to be less interested in abortion rights vs. fetal viability and more interested on stuff for sale on cafepress...
Oh, fuck off. You can be interested in those things without the entire world having to sit through endless airings of a local murder story.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:33 pm | #
Theological conservatives believe gay relationships violate Scripture, while Wal-Mart promoting child slave labor is 100% God-approved.
Before the carpet-bombing media mayhem monsters had their way, a story like this would either have been relegated to the back pages of the newspaper or ignored altogether. Now, it is front and center and to what effect?
There have always been sensationalist stories that have gotten mega press coverage. Always. Leopold and Loeb, Fatty Arbuckle, the Lindbergh baby kidnapping all happened over 70 years ago. This is not some new phenomena.
Richard |
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06.23.07 - 6:33 pm | #
You can be interested in those things without the entire world having to sit through endless airings of a local murder story.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
Thank you!
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:34 pm | #
Someone elsewhere said earlier there was a Bruce Campbell marathon on SciFi, but I was busy with other thangs.
Nope.
Not on now.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:34 pm | #
There's actually no mystery as to why there is coverage of missing white women.
The media's job is to support the government. The government can only maintain control when people are scared. So it's up to the media to foment fear. If it can't be fear of a Soviet launched nuclear holocaust anymore, and if they've cried wolf one time too many on terrorism, then it's got to be fear of drugs, or fear of immigrants, or fear of blacks, or fear of attacks on white women, which arouses the chest-beating white males who in their fantasies see themselves as the "protectors" of white women (never mind that they are most often the beaters and killers of white women).
That's the whole point of all their coverage: fear. And specifically, scaring the bejesus out of white people.
Jennifer |
06.23.07 - 6:34 pm | #
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
They'll be a big philosophical discussion on Nancy Grace, you can bet.
And lots of interesting "ideas" being discussed in this week's Inquirer.
daveŠ
I'm not Nancy Grace, and I'm not this week's Inquirer. Have I done something to offend you?
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:34 pm | #
Ah, Stan "Never met a paycheck I didn't like!" Lee's "Harpies", AKA "One Weekend a Month Army of Darkness."
they found jessie davis's body. arrested bobby cutts.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
That should swallow all the news coverage for about a week.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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06.23.07 - 6:34 pm | #
You're welcome Terry.
And now I think I shall take a shower and then go to Central Market.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:34 pm | #
Oh, fuck off.
you can't talk to allie like that.
well, ok, maybe you can. but you shouldn't.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:35 pm | #
I don't think it's really a conspiracy to ignore the real stories. It's just another formulaic Bleeding Lede.
Actually, it's a dessert topping AND a floor wax.
Unfortunately, as they move further into web-based news, the newspapers are more and more adopting 24-hour "breaking" news philosophy of cable TV. Just checked SFGate, which had as one of their top stories "3 year old hit by car". Very sad, yes. A major story? No. Why is it there? It "just" happened, so it's "breaking."
daveŠ |
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06.23.07 - 6:35 pm | #
4Legs, we'd have KNOWN if there'd been a Bruce Campbell filmfest going on.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:35 pm | #
Oh, fuck off. You can be interested in those things without the entire world having to sit through endless airings of a local murder story.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
You can fuck off. I didn't program the news. I was just voicing a general concern of mine. Why does that piss you off so much?
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:35 pm | #
fourlegsgood: Not on now.
I think it was earlier this afternoon, but I was web weaving instead of watching TV. Much as I like Campbell.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 6:35 pm | #
4Legs, we'd have KNOWN if there'd been a Bruce Campbell filmfest going on.
Yes, my eatage detector would have gone off.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:36 pm | #
they found jessie davis's body. arrested bobby cutts.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
That should swallow all the news coverage for about a week.
Lumpenprolitariot
It'll give that bitch Nancy Grace something to district her from the lawsuit against her.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:36 pm | #
Have I done something to offend you?
No, I just reject your argument and the "reasoning" behind it.
I'm sorry. I'll try to be less interested in abortion rights vs. fetal viability and more interested on stuff for sale on cafepress...
Allie
I'm very interested in this, too, Allie. I have an emotional reaction to the nearly-ready-to-be-born fetus, and a rational reaction to the chilling effect on choice. I get it.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:36 pm | #
you can't talk to allie like that.
well, ok, maybe you can. but you shouldn't.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
You can fuck off. I didn't program the news. I was just voicing a general concern of mine. Why does that piss you off so much?
No, I'd rather not.
Look, watch what you like, but your idea that a local murder story has anything to do with abortion rights or the viability of fetuses is silly.
You're also implying that we're not serious. Get a grip.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:37 pm | #
i don't like the endless airings of regional murderfests either - but i don't think the story needs to be totally ignored either. 24 hours on a handful of channels, and people are interested.
priorities and depth of coverage in really important news is a different issue.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.23.07 - 6:37 pm | #
NTodd, no, but she might have to put you in one and spank you for misbehaving.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:37 pm | #
i think 24 hr rolling news has killed off quality journalism
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 6:38 pm | #
Richard,
I disagree that these stories have always dominated the news. The cases you cite were sensational and exploited but there was a reason for this: either the fame or the wealth or the nature of the crime or the promoting entity. These stories like this are simply promoted because they are easy to cover and require little intelligence to understand thereby keeping people from thinking and questioning.
DWD |
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06.23.07 - 6:38 pm | #
No, I just reject your argument and the "reasoning" behind it.
'Nuff said!
daveŠ
My argument that a nine-month fetus can feel the same thing as a born baby, and that acknowledging that gives the force-birth advocates an inroad to attack abortion rights?
Thanks for the lesson.
I'm very interested in this, too, Allie. I have an emotional reaction to the nearly-ready-to-be-born fetus, and a rational reaction to the chilling effect on choice. I get it.
V for Virginia
Brilliantly expressed...and true.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:39 pm | #
I'm sorry. I'll try to be less interested in abortion rights vs. fetal viability and more interested on stuff for sale on cafepress...
Allie
you shoudn't take offense. the fact is the media actively uses the controversial nature of this unusual, but not unheard of crime to garner ratings.
there are 10 million stories in the naked city. each one more sordid than the other.
charley |
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06.23.07 - 6:39 pm | #
Look, watch what you like, but your idea that a local murder story has anything to do with abortion rights or the viability of fetuses is silly.
Nope; not silly at all. You acknowledge that this will get major coverage, even though we all think that's a waste and a distraction. In that context, the fundies can take this kind of case and build it into the Preborn American Rights story of their dreams.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:39 pm | #
Theological conservatives believe gay relationships violate Scripture, while more liberal Christians emphasize the Bibles social justice teachings.
I have no idea what the fuck that is supposed to mean.
Stunt Woman
Stunt Woman,
The fundy Christians spend their time either in the Old Testament or listening to Paul's theocratic bullshit. The more progressive churches actually read the words of Jesus Christ as recorded in the gospels.
DWD |
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06.23.07 - 6:39 pm | #
My argument that a nine-month fetus can feel the same thing as a born baby, and that acknowledging that gives the force-birth advocates an inroad to attack abortion rights?
No one who supports abortion rights that I know of thinks that a 8 1/2 month term fetus doesn't have nerve endings.
That's just common sense.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:40 pm | #
with 24 hr news, between major events, there is mostly filler
crap basically
cause they have to report something, use the helicopter and so fort
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 6:40 pm | #
your idea that a local murder story has anything to do with abortion rights or the viability of fetuses is silly.
I believe you're missing the point. It's not the locality of the story, but the double murder charge. That DOES have bearing on abortion rights and fetus viability, given the situation.
Why the bile? Because Allie's not She Who Shall Not Be Named?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:40 pm | #
Well, maybe you need to take another nap.
"zzzzzzzzzzzzzz" - sound familiar?
rootless2, discount-psychiatri |
06.23.07 - 6:40 pm | #
You're also implying that we're not serious. Get a grip.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
I didn't imply that. I was attacked for questioning something that I was struggling with myself. You can fuck off.
I can watch South Park, Countdown and Entertainment Tonight and still pay attention to the gorgeous weather outside my window.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:41 pm | #
Oops -
It'll give that bitch Nancy Grace something to DISTRACT her from the lawsuit against her.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:41 pm | #
Nope; not silly at all. You acknowledge that this will get major coverage, even though we all think that's a waste and a distraction. In that context, the fundies can take this kind of case and build it into the Preborn American Rights story of their dreams.
They don't need it to be a national story to whip it up into their dream story.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:41 pm | #
i think 24 hr rolling news has killed off quality journalism
Moonbootica, Ninjabi
Equally bizarre here Moon, is the local TV news channels do 5 or 6 hours of coverage everyday.
Apparently it's a real cash cow because all (?) the advertisng revenue goes to the local station.
Basically it's local murder stories, sports and weather.
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 6:41 pm | #
They don't need it to be a national story to whip it up into their dream story.
Uh, yeah, they kinda do if they want to, you know, make it a national issue.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:42 pm | #
No one who supports abortion rights that I know of thinks that a 8 1/2 month term fetus doesn't have nerve endings.
That's just common sense.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
So you agree that the killer should be charged with double murder.
Like a doctor who performs a late term abortion.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:42 pm | #
I'm very interested in this, too, Allie. I have an emotional reaction to the nearly-ready-to-be-born fetus, and a rational reaction to the chilling effect on choice. I get it.
V for Virginia
That's pretty much my take as well, Virginia and Allie.
NTodd suggested that the killing of a pregnant woman and the resultant death of the fetus should be an aggravating factor. I think that's a sensible alternative to the "double murder" charge.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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06.23.07 - 6:42 pm | #
It'll give that bitch Nancy Grace something to DISTRACT her from the lawsuit against her.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now
Nancy would be rushing to the studio but the multiple orgasms she's having over the story are slowing her down.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:42 pm | #
I believe you're missing the point. It's not the locality of the story, but the double murder charge. That DOES have bearing on abortion rights and fetus viability, given the situation.
Why the bile? Because Allie's not She Who Shall Not Be Named?
You're lecturing me on bile?
Good grief.
I AM SICK OF SEEING GARBAGE NEWS STORIES ON THE MAJOR NEWS OUTLETS.
Is that so hard to understand?
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:42 pm | #
Nothing like some swimming for wearing a little kid out.
I'm taking her in the pool again when she wakes up
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:43 pm | #
In that context, the fundies can take this kind of case and build it into the Preborn American Rights story of their dreams.
V for Virginia
Did they do that with the Lacy Peterson case?
I forget.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:43 pm | #
Uh, yeah, they kinda do if they want to, you know, make it a national issue.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
priorities and depth of coverage in really important news is a different issue.
Not really. Constant, in-depth coverage of a "local" murder, to the exclusion of all else, shows exactly where the "priorities" of the MSM lie. The "priorities" then dictate the "depth of coverage".
And, of course, what happens to the "breaking" story after it's no longer fresh?
Yes, there's a place for stories on tragic regional murders. It's called local TV, and it should rate about three minutes, tops.
I believe you're missing the point. It's not the locality of the story, but the double murder charge. That DOES have bearing on abortion rights and fetus viability, given the situation.
Why the bile? Because Allie's not She Who Shall Not Be Named?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Equally bizarre here Moon, is the local TV news channels do 5 or 6 hours of coverage everyday.
Apparently it's a real cash cow because all (?) the advertisng revenue goes to the local station.
Basically it's local murder stories, sports and weather.
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Agent Orange | 06.23.07 - 6:41 pm | #
i first realised it when I watched vintage coverage of the Falkans War by the Beeb
and back then the journos and news anchors were much more on the ball whe it came to reporting.
was straightforward, not filled with waffle like today
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 6:44 pm | #
So you agree that the killer should be charged with double murder.
Like a doctor who performs a late term abortion.
Allie | 06.23.07 - 6:42 pm | #
No, I don't fucking agree. I actually agree with that wanker Ntodd. Aggravating factor.
And I don't support late term abortion unless it's about the health of the mother.
I also don't support you deciding what I do and don't support.
I'm just concerned with what's on the news. I'm sick of missing white women. The fundies don't need it to be a national story.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:45 pm | #
Did they do that with the Lacy Peterson case?
I forget.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
I believe the issue came up then, but I don't remember how it was resolved.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:45 pm | #
you're right. the story of a pregnant woman murdered in front of her two year old son by the father is garbage. why should anyone care about her?
let's all just watch pteradactyl. it's much more informative.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:45 pm | #
Cats make good blog neighbors.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.23.07 - 6:45 pm | #
You're lecturing me on bile?
No, I'm not. I asked a question. Is that "lecturing"? Or maybe it's "bashing", eh?
I was merely ironically observing that you who get on my case for criticizing Tena seem to effortlessly tell Allie to fuck off when she expressed reasonable concern about a situation. Odd, that.
Good grief.
Just what I was thinking.
I AM SICK OF SEEING GARBAGE NEWS STORIES ON THE MAJOR NEWS OUTLETS.
Is that so hard to understand?
Not hard to understand at all. Yet Allie brought up a point about the double-murder charge and you leapt all over her for that observation. That has nothing to to with "garbage news".
So I wonder what has set you off on somebody asking questions. Is that so fucking hard to understand?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:45 pm | #
Did they do that with the Lacy Peterson case?
Sure. And Scott got the death penalty for a double murder.
So you agree that the killer should be charged with double murder.
Like a doctor who performs a late term abortion.
Allie
I see where you coming from, Allie.
It opens a Pandora's Box that should stay closed.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:46 pm | #
My favorite local coverage is the live helicopter coverage of the traffic backing up at certain interchanges on the Turnpike - for the 3rd time this week!
If they aired the video from previous days (or last years) do you think anyone would notice?
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 6:46 pm | #
peace and lurkiness forevr
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 6:46 pm | #
I AM SICK OF SEEING GARBAGE NEWS STORIES ON THE MAJOR NEWS OUTLETS.
Is that so hard to understand?
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
I AM, TOO. I SAW THIS STORY THIS MORNING. I WAS COMMENTING ON THE IDEA THAT A BABY WAS ESSENTIALLY MURDERED, BUT ACKNOWLEGING THAT GIVE A FOOTHOLD TO FORCED-PREGNANCY ADVOCATES.
What is the fucking problem?
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:46 pm | #
Uh, yeah, they kinda do if they want to, you know, make it a national issue.
I disagree.
They have enough tame outlets to manufacture national outrage without CNN helping them out.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:46 pm | #
Did they do that with the Lacy Peterson case?
Sure. And Scott got the death penalty for a double murder.
Or not.
Snow, Contrary
Oh, I know about the double murder thing.
I meant, did the anti-choicers make a big stink about it?
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:47 pm | #
If only She Who Shall Not Be Named were here to guide us...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:47 pm | #
What is the fucking problem?
Ntodd is the problem.
He is full of bile and hangs out behind the tastee freeze.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:47 pm | #
"If they aired the video from previous days (or last years) do you think anyone would notice?"
I remember a traffic guy on a Philadelphia station who did say once "come on, you know the places that were backed up uesterday? They're backed up today, too." Surprise.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 6:48 pm | #
I AM SICK OF SEEING GARBAGE NEWS STORIES ON THE MAJOR NEWS OUTLETS.
Ditto.
So I wonder what has set you off on somebody asking questions.
It's a stupid fucking question? And a bunch of people that should know better are buying into it?
Just a thought...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:48 pm | #
the news anchors back then had gravitas
it was to the point
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 6:48 pm | #
Uh, yeah, they kinda do if they want to, you know, make it a national issue.
I disagree.
They have enough tame outlets to manufacture national outrage without CNN helping them out.
So I guess we don't need Media Matters then! Because, of course, the fundies only attack things in local media outlets and never, ever would try multipronged approaches.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:48 pm | #
He is full of bile
that's not the way I heard it!
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:48 pm | #
Cats make good blog neighbors.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Is LarryElvis surfing the net?
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:48 pm | #
I also don't support you deciding what I do and don't support.
I'm just concerned with what's on the news. I'm sick of missing white women. The fundies don't need it to be a national story.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
Alright. I think I understand now. Here is my email so that I can know in advance what you think is worthy of discussion or interest...
So I wonder what has set you off on somebody asking questions.
It's a stupid fucking question? And a bunch of people that should know better are buying into it?
Excuse me? It's a stupid fucking question to consider what the media and anti-choice folks might do when an unborn is considered "murdered"? Jesus.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:49 pm | #
Before the carpet-bombing media mayhem monsters had their way, a story like this would either have been relegated to the back pages of the newspaper or ignored altogether. Now, it is front and center and to what effect?
DWD
'cause all the news bureaus have been cut back to the level of non exsistance?
1Watt, Hermit |
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06.23.07 - 6:49 pm | #
So I guess we don't need Media Matters then! Because, of course, the fundies only attack things in local media outlets and never, ever would try multipronged approaches.
You're just being goofy now.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:49 pm | #
I meant, did the anti-choicers make a big stink about it?
Not that I remember.
It was a big circus, though. Like this.
And again, a story that completely did not merit the coverage it got.
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:49 pm | #
I'm not full of bile. NTodd's Pa's Wife always said I'm so full of shit that my eyes are brown.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:49 pm | #
This is a stupid fight. Both the the fetus/baby question for murder charges in this case and the "should they or shouldn't they cover this type of story" questions are I think interesting and worthy of a good debate.
The Vast Rightwing Conspiracy wins if they can get us to shout "fuck off" at one another and question one another's motives over these kinds of marginal cases.
If we try to work our way through the issues this sort of stuff raises intelligently, then we all end up smarter for it, rather than looking like petulant babies.
blerb, condescending |
06.23.07 - 6:49 pm | #
And again, a story that completely did not merit the coverage it got.
daveŠ
No, it didn't.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:49 pm | #
It's a stupid fucking question? And a bunch of people that should know better are buying into it?
Just a thought...
daveŠ
It's a stupid question to ask how to square the death of a full-term fetus with abortion rights?
Thanks for the lesson.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:50 pm | #
Alright. I think I understand now. Here is my email so that I can know in advance what you think is worthy of discussion or interest...
alliekat5202@yahoo.com
I'll pass.
Look, fucking talk about what you want.
And some of us will feel free to not want to talk about some issues.
You're being thin skinned and ridiculous.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:50 pm | #
i agree the story was way over-covered. but that does not mean it should not have been covered at all, nor that some people cannot relate to or be interested in the details. that's what i mean about it being a different issue.
personally, i generally hit the remote when a story is being beaten to death and there is no new information. but i do try and catch the thrust of the story and its outcome.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.23.07 - 6:51 pm | #
If we try to work our way through the issues this sort of stuff raises intelligently, then we all end up smarter for it, rather than looking like petulant babies.
blerb, condescending
OH, THERE YOU GO, BEING ALL RATIONAL AND SHIT!!!! I WANT MY GODDAMNED FLAME WAR!!!!ELEVEN!!!
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:51 pm | #
It's a stupid fucking question to consider what the media and anti-choice folks might do when an unborn is considered "murdered"?
What they "might" do? Who gives a flying fuck?
In the meantime, it's another big media circus that can distract everyone, including people here who should know better, from any number of "real" news stories.
The wingnuts are gonna send out their fundraising letters no matter what CNN does.
daveŠ |
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06.23.07 - 6:51 pm | #
I'm not full of bile. NTodd's Pa's Wife always said I'm so full of shit that my eyes are brown.
you're right. the story of a pregnant woman murdered in front of her two year old son by the father is garbage. why should anyone care about her?
No one is saying it shouldn't be covered, but 24/7?
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:51 pm | #
You're just being goofy now.
Oddly enough, I'm not for once. Making this a national story is exactly part of how you try to push the debate. That's why Media Matters IS important for political shit--because it looks at framing. So we've got an attractive white woman whose fetus was "murdered" along with her. More of the agitprop to support the notion that a fetus is a full person.
If only anti-war activities could get such coverage...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:51 pm | #
If we try to work our way through the issues this sort of stuff raises intelligently, then we all end up smarter for it, rather than looking like petulant babies.
blerb, condescending
I agree. And I promise not to chime in and denegrate anyone discussing old bands or sports.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:51 pm | #
"This is a stupid fight."
As are many of the fights that happen here. We sit some out we get drawn in but they happen. Steam is blown off, as it were, and in general people leave the mess in the thread that contained it.
These folks is gonna screech till they're done. I'd advise ignoring it if it bothers ya.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 6:52 pm | #
Was the Patty Hearst kidnapping story worthy of the coverage it got?
blerb, condescending |
06.23.07 - 6:52 pm | #
Terry C: Is LarryElvis surfing the net?
No; he's trying to gnaw on the USB cable for the camera. All wires are fair game for this treatment, but the more intriguing ones are the ones he can't usually reach.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:52 pm | #
"If they aired the video from previous days (or last years) do you think anyone would notice?"
I remember a traffic guy on a Philadelphia station who did say once "come on, you know the places that were backed up uesterday? They're backed up today, too." Surprise.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Same with the snow stories. Basically they need footage of...
less snowfall than expected.
more snowfall than expected.
about what was expected.
and the local babe reporter dressed in a snow bunny suit holding a ruler sticking it the snow and reporting some number of inches.
Oh yeah...
Road salt supplies are low
Road salt supplies are high
Oh we're in could shape with road salt.
Then pick one to air.
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 6:52 pm | #
the story of a pregnant woman murdered in front of her two year old son by the father is garbage.
There's a million stories in the Naked City...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:52 pm | #
Did the double murder conviction here in western massachusetts recently get national coverage?
whiskey girl, a-go-go |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:52 pm | #
If only She Who Shall Not Be Named were here to guide us...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
I have no problem with CNN reporting that she was missing.
And then, again, reporting when her body was found and an arrest was made.
It's all the endless shit in between that drives me crazy.
And Rick Sanchez. That stupid fucker needs to go back to florida.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:52 pm | #
personally, i generally hit the remote when a story is being beaten to death and there is no new information.
It's why I generally avoid the medium altogether. They get on these tears about shit that is just not a major national issue and they won't shut up about it. Sensationalism, anything shocking and dramatic to fill airtime. I can't handle it.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:53 pm | #
You're being thin skinned and ridiculous.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
I'm being thin-skinned for responding to you telling me to fuck off? I don't think I've ever said anything like that to you.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:53 pm | #
There's a million stories in the Naked City...
dave™Š | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 6:52 pm | #
How strategic you are. Why bother trying to anticipate anything. You're right. I don't know where my head is at. It's not like they've planned a campaign for decades and keep trying to chip away at Roe v. Wade or anything.
Regardless, attacking Allie for posing the questions is pretty fucking pathetic. It's not like she's a troll trying to derail any deep discussion. She's a member of the community and was musing about something.
Really. Jesus jumping christ on a fucking improvised explosive pogo stick.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
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06.23.07 - 6:53 pm | #
currently watching Iggy and the Stooges on BBC4 (Glastonbury coverage)
my dad is thinking perhaps he might take Clan Moonbootica to the festival next year.
that or WOMAD, maybe both
my dad sez he'd like to Glastonbury but with some comfort
you can hire Teepes there
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 6:53 pm | #
I disagree that these stories have always dominated the news. The cases you cite were sensational and exploited but there was a reason for this: either the fame or the wealth or the nature of the crime or the promoting entity.
How are those 70+ year old stories any different than the current Paris Hilton story which people also use as an example of a media conspiracy to deliberately distract us?
There is no doubt that the media sucks GOP dick (the every Iraqi insurgent is al Qaeda propaganda that's being pushed now is a good example), but I don't happen to believe this particular conspiracy theory.
Salicious stories are easy to cover as you said and like gossip, get a lot of people's attention. This is media as lazy infotainment more than anything else.
Richard |
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06.23.07 - 6:54 pm | #
Agent Orange | 06.23.07 - 6:52 pm
Don't forget their going to the local grocery stores and supermarkets and interviewing people who are stocking up on supplies.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:54 pm | #
There's a million stories in the Naked City...
And everyone wants you to read his screenplay
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:54 pm | #
Did the double murder conviction here in western massachusetts recently get national coverage?
whiskey girl, a-go-go
I think generally they like to go with only one story at a time. Otherwise it's too complicated for Nancy Grace and the people who watch her.
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 6:54 pm | #
"Was the Patty Hearst kidnapping story worthy of the coverage it got?"
Probably not, but she had hooked up with some itneresting folks and was to all apearances robbong banks with them. Not dull to be sure.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 6:54 pm | #
You're being thin skinned and ridiculous.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 6:50 pm | #
You told her to fuck off. So she's thin skinned for refusing to back down?
rootless2, discount-psychiatri |
06.23.07 - 6:54 pm | #
It's all the endless shit in between that drives me crazy.
agreed.
but still no cause to be cursing at poor defenseless allie for asking a question.
They are different because, instead of a few of them, we are given a steady diet of them to the EXCLUSION of stories that are more important and that warrant the attention of the American populace.
"Jesus jumping christ on a fucking improvised explosive pogo stick" with a missing white woman. Film at 11.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 6:56 pm | #
well switching between Iggy Pop and The Killers
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:56 pm | #
Was the Patty Hearst kidnapping story worthy of the coverage it got?
blerb, condescending
No.
Besides, those were the days before cable news channels. We didn't have it crammed down our throats 24/7.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 6:56 pm | #
Don't forget their going to the local grocery stores and supermarkets and interviewing people who are stocking up on supplies.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
That's right I forgot the video of the empty bread shelves!
btw Do people really eat more bread and drink milk during snow storms.
It's like George Carlin's bit about folks obsessively carrying bottled water. "Can people really be THAT thirsty?"
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 6:57 pm | #
Yeah, Ntodd, you've never jumped on anyone for disagreeing with you.
Here, Mr. Kettle, meet Mr. Pot!!
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:57 pm | #
and?
Should they all be on CNN?
If the cable news networks really wanted to make many, they'd have an "all-murder, all-car-accident" channel.
Just cut out any attempt at news judgment whatsoever and ride around with the coroner...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:57 pm | #
Over at Daily Kos:
ˇ Mitt Romney: "Guantanamo is a symbol of our resolve." Our resolve to what? Violate human rights? Sneer at the rule of law?
Bush will shut Gautanamo and simply MOVE it to Afghanistan where the press wont highlight the issue of habeas corpus, the courts cant do anything and lawyers cant assist the prisoners, so really Bush is using rendition right in full public view.
AND the last time I heard about Afghan prisons, its that there were young teenage Afghanistan males literally staving to death in the Afghanistan prison and horrible overcrowding, a place were suicide wont be mentioned over the all the other horrors of Afghanistan prisons.
Bush just wants to get Gitmo off the front pages of the newspapers and out of the courts system.
me-again |
06.23.07 - 6:57 pm | #
can't we all get a long?
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.23.07 - 6:58 pm | #
You told her to fuck off. So she's thin skinned for refusing to back down?
rootless2, discount-psychiatri
You can fuck off too.
And Dirk, you especially!!
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 2007 NATIONAL FUCK-OFF!
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:58 pm | #
He's from Miami.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
You guys need him more than we do. Seriously.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 6:58 pm | #
You just did.
Jeez, let it go. I have.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
You did first... :P
Allie |
06.23.07 - 6:58 pm | #
Over at Daily Kos:
ˇ Mitt Romney: "Guantanamo is a symbol of our resolve." Our resolve to what? Violate human rights? Sneer at the rule of law?
He is an appalling excuse for a human being.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:58 pm | #
I think generally they like to go with only one story at a time. Otherwise it's too complicated for Nancy Grace and the people who watch her.
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Agent Orange | 06.23.07 - 6:54 pm | #
I'm thinking it might not've (I don't know, I don't watch TV or read papers other than my local) because the victim, although white, was white trash and the murderer was a black 'common thief.'
whiskey girl, a-go-go |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:59 pm | #
Settle down, peeps. It's hot, we have Bush and Cheney for dictators, and it overall sucks.
Have a drink and chill out.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.23.07 - 6:59 pm | #
How strategic you are. Why bother trying to anticipate anything.
As I mentioned, we KNOW what they're going to do. Regardless of what CNN "covers."
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 6:59 pm | #
"Mitt Romney: "Guantanamo is a symbol of our resolve."
I hope this phrase follows him for the rest of his career and may that career be short.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 6:59 pm | #
Bush can suck my ass.
NFlalib |
06.23.07 - 6:59 pm | #
You know what I'd really like to see?
Birth control be free and widely available.
You guys can argue about that and about what a jerk I am while I go to Central Market to buy some delicious shrimps.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
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06.23.07 - 6:59 pm | #
That's right I forgot the video of the empty bread shelves!
btw Do people really eat more bread and drink milk during snow storms.
It's like George Carlin's bit about folks obsessively carrying bottled water. "Can people really be THAT thirsty?"
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Agent Orange
My neighbor works in a local hospital.
One doctor is from Pakistan. Nice fella.
He wanted to know if it was a custom for Americans to eat only bread, milk and eggs during a snowstorm.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 7:00 pm | #
Why should I do a podcast about it? And am I really more self-indulgent than you, who come here after announcing we're dead to you, as you weigh in on my podcasts?
What a fucktarded jerkburger you are, Zod. A psychotic, brainless, lonely misanthrope for whom there is no joy unless you're engaging in your faux superiority. Jesus weeps for you.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
I really could care less about Jesus.
And yes, you are more self-indulgent. I'm neither psychotic, nor lonely, nor brainless. But you are an attention-grabbing, self-indulgent, self-promoting jerkwad.
The self-promoting "Quaker". The nice guy. In actuality, one of the most narcisstic people who soil the internet. This forum is perfect for you, because you get to be the big fish in the little pond.
Anywhere else, you would just be another poster on a site, and that wouldn't do for you, would it? Your ego couldn't take it.
you are pathetic.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:00 pm | #
If the cable news networks really wanted to make many, they'd have an "all-murder, all-car-accident" channel.
Just cut out any attempt at news judgment whatsoever and ride around with the coroner...
daveŠ
Shows like 'Cops' are the precursor. And in primetime are there any shows that don't involve forensics, picking at cadavers, crime scene images???
I think we're there.
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 7:00 pm | #
He wanted to know if it was a custom for Americans to eat only bread, milk and eggs during a snowstorm.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
Settle down, peeps. It's hot, we have Bush and Cheney for dictators, and it overall sucks.
Have a drink and chill out.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Fight the REAL enemy.
(Tears up a photo of Bush)
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:01 pm | #
"ducks in advance"
Goose if you pay late
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 7:01 pm | #
Yeah, Ntodd, you've never jumped on anyone for disagreeing with you.
Here, Mr. Kettle, meet Mr. Pot!!
Yes, of course, rather than accept criticism, just pull that out of your ass.
I think my observations are spot on. And no, I don't generally jump on people for disagreeing. I do, however, get pissed when they refuse to acknowledge I might, you know, have a point. And if I think they're being, say...overly critical of things in an ironic way (e.g., Tena, and now you).
But whatever makes you feel good about telling Allie to fuck off for asking a goddamned question. There wasn't even a fucking disagreement at that point: she made a note about something that concerned her. That's it.
Good on ya. Watch out for the soot on the pot bottoms. It can make your hands awful dirty'n'stuff.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:01 pm | #
As I mentioned, we KNOW what they're going to do. Regardless of what CNN "covers."
Ah, but who is paying attention if the base story is not covered.
Snow, Contrary |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:01 pm | #
Can't we all get a blog?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:01 pm | #
Should they all be on CNN?
no, but again that doesn't mean that none of them should or that someone taking an interest in one is cause for going postal.
i mean, goddamnit, over 3,000 mothers have lost their sons in the iraq clusterfuck, but we still talk about cindy's individual loss. not that the others don't matter, or that her personal story is the most important aspect of the war.
one case is easier to deal with than a million, and has more impact.
and yes, again, it got way too much coverage to the detriment of other important stories. fine. not the point.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:01 pm | #
i think 24 hr rolling news has killed off quality journalism
Moonbootica, Ninjabi
I think it's partly that, but the ability to cheaply videotape something and launch it world wide distorts the "news" a lot, also.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:01 pm | #
Which one do I put the fish in?
daveŠ
Dunno. Which one are you selling on cafepress?
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:01 pm | #
Regardless, attacking Allie for posing the questions is pretty fucking pathetic. It's not like she's a troll trying to derail any deep discussion. She's a member of the community and was musing about something.
Really. Jesus jumping christ on a fucking improvised explosive pogo stick.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
really, can't we all just get along.
the thing i like about this joint is in real life i know i'd like you all. i'd like dave, i'd like allie. the good thing about liberals is they don't always agree on the finer points.
diversity is a good thing.
charley |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:02 pm | #
hey dirk!
haven't seen you in awhile (i was on a computerless vacation in california).
how are you?
whiskey girl, a-go-go |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:02 pm | #
He wanted to know if it was a custom for Americans to eat only bread, milk and eggs during a snowstorm.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
That is great!
V for Virginia
I think it was Denis Leary who said "Eggs, milk and bread. Are ya gonna live on fucking FRENCH TOAST if you get snowed in????"
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:02 pm | #
cnn is shit. after nbc and abc were humiliated into dropping their paris hilton interviews, cnn steps right up. larry king to the rescue.
linda |
06.23.07 - 7:02 pm | #
Are you ducking from me for calling me defenseless?
Allie | 06.23.07 - 7:00 pm | #
I would almost pay to see that.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:03 pm | #
Can't we all get a blog?
I've got a blog. It's full of kitties.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:03 pm | #
You guys can argue about that and about what a jerk I am while I go to Central Market to buy some delicious shrimps.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
Hey, I don't think you're a jerk at all. I quite like talking to you, FWIW.
But it would significantly enhance the respect I feel for you, again FWIW, if you were to apologize to Allie for just telling her(?) to fuck off like that.
And with that, I think I'll fuck off myself, before my wife, who is busily sorting through our camping gear while i sit here and blogsturbate, separates my worthless hide from my worthless ass.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 7:03 pm | #
can't we all get a long?
Moonbootica, Ninjabi
A long what?
Allie
This reminds me of what one of my guys said to me last week. He had put a fixture in the wrong spot, I pointed it out and said, "it just needs to go a few inches over that way" to which he replied, "well, an inch doesn't make any difference, does it?"
And yes, that IS how he meant it. I just replied, "I've been told that for years, but I'm not sure I believe it." Guy turned red as a beet.
Jennifer |
06.23.07 - 7:03 pm | #
"Mitt Romney: "Guantanamo is a symbol of our resolve."
If I'm the first person to say this, I want credit...
"Mitt Romney is stupider than George W Bush"
-Agent Orange
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 7:03 pm | #
The Iraq war can suck my ass.
NFlalib |
06.23.07 - 7:03 pm | #
how are you?
whiskey girl, a-go-go
i'm a hampster in a wheel. so i'm not bothering to spin it very quickly.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:04 pm | #
"Mitt Romney: "Guantanamo is a symbol of our resolve."
I think the weight of all that hair has squashed his brain.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:04 pm | #
and yes, again, it got way too much coverage to the detriment of other important stories. fine. not the point.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
I hadn't even seen this particular story before this morning. The death of a full-term baby is something I have thought about before and I have trouble trying to decide what the right course of action is. I tend to go meta on some things, and for that, I apologize.
NTodd sure has been grumpy since that transvestite turned up dead in the lake in Vermont... the lake near his house... the guy had a bracelet with the name "annie" on it...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:05 pm | #
The Republican Party can suck my ass.
NFlalib |
06.23.07 - 7:05 pm | #
"Mitt Romney: "Guantanamo is a symbol of our resolve."
too much sniffing his holy underwear?
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:05 pm | #
If only She Who Shall Not Be Named were here to guide us...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
You know, for caring less, she sure seems to have you rambling on and on.... liar.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:05 pm | #
Can't we all get a blog?
I've got a blog. It's full of kitties.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
And some right purty kitties, too.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:06 pm | #
And yes, you are more self-indulgent. I'm neither psychotic, nor lonely, nor brainless. But you are an attention-grabbing, self-indulgent, self-promoting jerkwad.
So I'm not allowed to express myself? Is expression inherently self-indulgent?
The self-promoting "Quaker". The nice guy. In actuality, one of the most narcisstic people who soil the internet. This forum is perfect for you, because you get to be the big fish in the little pond.
I am a Quaker, so I don't know why you put that in scare quotes. What's more, I'm puzzled as to why it's wrong to promote oneself. If I have something I'd like to share, am I supposed to be a wallflower and hope people notice it? Why am I not allowed to promote my stuff when everybody else does?
And the reason I'm here is because I like most of the folks here, whom I have met in person and have gotten to know over 4+ years. Not to mention the high traffic which makes it a nice marketing channel.
Anywhere else, you would just be another poster on a site, and that wouldn't do for you, would it? Your ego couldn't take it.
You don't think I comment anywhere else? Or that I wouldn't be noticed as a self-promoting Quaker? What makes this site so special in your eyes? It must be special, given that you keep coming back even though you keep saying you won't--and you continue to single me out for some reason. It's touching, I guess, in a sick way.
PS--I don't know that I've ever claimed to be a nice guy. And few here would ever say I am, particularly moi, mimi, Tena, fourlegs and agave...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:06 pm | #
Laura Bush has a dildo shaped like Bill Clinton's head.
NFlalib |
06.23.07 - 7:06 pm | #
The Republican Party can suck my ass.
NFlalib
Yeah, OK, but learn another chord.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 7:06 pm | #
I hadn't even seen this particular story before this morning.
you probably have a job.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:06 pm | #
And yes, that IS how he meant it. I just replied, "I've been told that for years, but I'm not sure I believe it." Guy turned red as a beet.
Jennifer
NTodd sure has been grumpy since that transvestite turned up dead in the lake in Vermont... the lake near his house... the guy had a bracelet with the name "annie" on it...
You're not being very sensitive to my deep and abiding pain about annie.
[sobs quitely into red wine glass]
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:07 pm | #
oh man how cool
Iggy just invited the front rows at the Other Stage to join him on it, signing with him and dancing.
quite jello (to borrow Hecate's word) at the moment
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:08 pm | #
you probably have a job.
It's been on CNN.com constantly.
I rarely watch CNN anymore. Most of the coverage I get from them is through their website, which makes Weekly World News look like the Christian Science Monitor.
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:08 pm | #
you probably have a job.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
I also shop for groceries and wash clothes.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:08 pm | #
I've been drinking, got to keep it concise and to the point.
NFlalib |
06.23.07 - 7:09 pm | #
[sobs quietly into red wine glass]
Sociopaths! Such drama queens...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:09 pm | #
[sobs quitely into red wine glass]
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Here, have a scotch.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:09 pm | #
Iggy just invited the front rows at the Other Stage to join him on it, signing with him and dancing.
Did Iggy's laundry arrive on time or is he going shirtless?
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 7:09 pm | #
Mitt Romney: "Guantanamo is a symbol of our resolve."
This one as well. I used to reaslly enjoy CNN 15-20 years ago, but I don't think I have voluntarily watched them in years.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 7:10 pm | #
General Zod | 06.23.07 - 7:05 pm | #
Fuck off already.
And unbunch your panties while you're at it, General Thin Skin.
Snow, Contrary |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:10 pm | #
to which he replied, "well, an inch doesn't make any difference, does it?"
the last inch is always the best.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:10 pm | #
I also shop for groceries and wash clothes.
Allie
I do those things in theory, but this day seems to have completely gotten away from me.
I probably need to get back to my crack-anon meetings.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 7:10 pm | #
Did Iggy's laundry arrive on time or is he going shirtless?
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Agent Orange | 06.23.07 - 7:09 pm | #
yeah, he is shirtless
his bass guitarist is fucking excellent, looks about 90 thou but totally brilliant
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:10 pm | #
I do those things in theory, but this day seems to have completely gotten away from me.
I probably need to get back to my crack-anon meetings.
V for Virginia
I'm just bitter that I haven't received my allotment of sister-wives.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:11 pm | #
I used to reaslly enjoy CNN 15-20 years ago, but I don't think I have voluntarily watched them in years.
I used to love "Headline News." Real rip-and-read stuff. No attempt at personality, which made watching Lynne Russell all the more intriguing!
Now, I watch Olbermann occassionally (unfortunately, on the West Coast, he's on before I get home or at the same time my wife might be watching some network show) and Stewart (if I can stay up). Local news in the early morning for the traffic...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:14 pm | #
to which he replied, "well, an inch doesn't make any difference, does it?"
the last inch is always the best.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 7:10 pm | #
When I wrote these words in a song, I didn't know if people would get that it's a reference to sex:
Summer sun sinkin' an inch or two
Ridin' with you, ridin' with you
whiskey girl, a-go-go |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:14 pm | #
Trying to keep the hummingbird feeder filled these days is about all I can manage.
mer |
06.23.07 - 7:14 pm | #
Because I'm so sensitive and have a lovely ass.
Don't flatter yourself, wanker.
Why did you have to make Zod so bitter?
Snow, Contrary |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:14 pm | #
My experience in the midst of a baby in the dumpster story.
trifecta |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:14 pm | #
yes, quite jello at the moment
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:14 pm | #
Your concern has been noted, Snow. Now let your hero Ntodd speak for himself, okay?
Ah, yes, the other troll gambit: I wasn't talking to you. As though other members of the community cannot engage in a public forum.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:15 pm | #
And unbunch your panties while you're at it
For the record, those are mommy's panties.
I love slipping them off!
General Zod |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:15 pm | #
Summer sun sinkin' an inch or two
Ridin' with you, ridin' with you
whiskey girl, a-go-go
um... i, um .... i'll be back in a couple of minutes.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:15 pm | #
Trolls can suck my ass.
NFlalib |
06.23.07 - 7:15 pm | #
I'm just bitter that I haven't received my allotment of sister-wives.
Allie
You think I wouldn't alternate nights to get someone else to vacuum the living room?
Sheeeeeit.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 7:15 pm | #
my dad doesn't believe he is a year younger than he (on wiki it sez Iggy was born in 1947, my dad was born in 1946)
he sez 'he must be lying'
Moonbootica, Ninjabi
Figure Iggy spending about 4 hours a day in the gym..at least.
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 7:15 pm | #
White women who've gone missing always raise
Our ratings (in this no one else can beat us).
Bet even better is a variant craze
Like Lost Caucasian Female Plus Her Fetus.
Fuck a bunch of cat music, then.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:16 pm | #
You think I wouldn't alternate nights to get someone else to vacuum the living room?
Men can vacuum. Maybe an incentive would help.
Snow, Contrary |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:17 pm | #
Trying to keep the hummingbird feeder filled these days is about all I can manage.
mer |
Plant a Mimosa, that keeps them busy.
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 7:18 pm | #
My experience in the midst of a baby in the dumpster story.
Great post! You should send it in to the local fishwrap... or the New Yorker!
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:18 pm | #
Maybe an incentive would help.
Snow, Contrary
He works his ass off keeping this house from falling down around us. He's currently building storm shutters for the whole house.
I'm blogging. And now, drinking.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 7:18 pm | #
um... i, um .... i'll be back in a couple of minutes.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 7:15 pm | #
glad to help get you off that hamster wheel. (only after I typed this did I notice the double entendre)
whiskey girl, a-go-go |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:18 pm | #
And Rick Sanchez. That stupid fucker needs to go back to florida.
fourlegsgood, centaur rodeoist
He seems to be the designated CNN crash test dummy. I think they plan to kill him off when he demonstrates how to surrvive an IED attack.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:18 pm | #
No attempt at personality, which made watching Lynne Russell all the more intriguing!
Lynne Russell now lives in Canada and works for the CBC.
Richard |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:19 pm | #
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Because you are a hypocrite. More so than most people.
You love to tell people you are a Quaker. No-one cares. You blogwhore, you podcast, you suck ass to get put on a blogroll. Hoo-rah for you. At the same time, you tell people to start a blog if they want to get their point across, and then you mock the very people who do it.
So that is why you come across as an intolerant jackass. Sorry if that bothers you.
And I'll post here when I feel like it. If you don't like it, e-mail your Daddy and have me banned.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:19 pm | #
You don't think I comment anywhere else?
NTodd is everyfuck'nwhere. and i don't agree with everything he says, but mostly i do.
plus, he's really fuck'n smart. i could say that about a lot of the folks around here. but he's also just a regular guy, that list would be more limited.
charley |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:19 pm | #
"Men can vacuum. Maybe an incentive would help."
--Snow,
Two of my friends did a calendar titled "Vacuuming Your Way to Sex." Each month had a chore around the house that men could do (without being asked) that would be a slam dunk for a good lay in the hay that night.
mer |
06.23.07 - 7:21 pm | #
NTodd is a force of nature!
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:21 pm | #
"You love to tell people you are a Quaker. No-one cares. You blogwhore, you podcast, you suck ass to get put on a blogroll. Hoo-rah for you. At the same time, you tell people to start a blog if they want to get their point across, and then you mock the very people who do it."
And we love him for it.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 7:21 pm | #
if General Zod hates NTodd this much, why does he respond?
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:23 pm | #
Of course, what really pisses me off about NTodd was they way he laughed at my magnificent rod out behind the Tastee Freeze.
Ask my mommy about it, you pathetic Quaker loser - she's never had better!
General Zod |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:23 pm | #
And we love him for it.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Of course you do. Who else would fill this blog for 16 hours a day? Now when is the next picnic or Ecshacon? I'll be there!
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:23 pm | #
And I'll post here when I feel like it.
And perhaps you could tell the story of your oh so poor treatment that seems to gotten so deeply under tender skin.
Or you could get some therapy.
Snow, Contrary |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:23 pm | #
NTodd is a force of nature!
Moonbootica, Ninjabi
An attractive or a repulsive force?
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 7:23 pm | #
General Zod whines about this place, but posts here?
LarryElvis is a chatty squeeky priest
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 7:24 pm | #
if General Zod hates NTodd this much, why does he respond?
You're young yet, kid - someday you'll know all about the "fight and fuck" thing...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:24 pm | #
An attractive or a repulsive force?
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Agent Orange | 06.23.07 - 7:23 pm | #
i think both
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:24 pm | #
Because you are a hypocrite. More so than most people. - How am I a hypocrite, exactly?
You love to tell people you are a Quaker. No-one cares. - Oh, you took a poll? And I tell people that because a) people ask things that make it natural to note, b) it's certainly germane to my non-violence efforts, and c) we are a place where people share lots of personal things. Why is my saying I'm a Quaker so annoying to you?
You blogwhore, you podcast, you suck ass to get put on a blogroll. - Yup. And that's wrong how?
At the same time, you tell people to start a blog if they want to get their point across, and then you mock the very people who do it. - No, I tell people who criticize Atrios for not blogging about Issue X to get a blog. And I mock people such as She Who Shall Not Be Named because I think she went off the deep end. I know all of that is nuanced, and I can help you understand it better if you would like me to use shorter words.
So that is why you come across as an intolerant jackass. Sorry if that bothers you. - Given that my entire schtick is based on being an intolerant jackass, I don't see why it should bother me. But apparently it bothers you, which interests me to no end.
And I'll post here when I feel like it. - Never said you couldn't. I merely observe that you keep saying you won't, yet you do. Odd, that.
If you don't like it, e-mail your Daddy and have me banned. - My Daddy lives 45 minutes away and doesn't blog. I don't need to e-mail him, nor does he have any power here. Perhaps you didn't realize that.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:24 pm | #
Maybe Atrios will get bored with Zod? One can only hope.
mer |
06.23.07 - 7:25 pm | #
"Who else would fill this blog for 16 hours a day?"
A shitload of other folks, actually.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 7:25 pm | #
General Zod whines about this place, but posts here?
says one thing, but does another
strange fellow
Moonbootica, Ninjabi | Homepage
Don't you have some headlines to post?
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:25 pm | #
Figure Iggy spending about 4 hours a day in the gym..at least.
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Agent Orange
heroin. i actually don't know. but think'n steven tyler. i'm 48, 32 inch waist. but i don't look like iggy or steven.
charley |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:25 pm | #
and Rudy BAhktiar, mey fave headline news eeye candy works for FOX
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 7:25 pm | #
PS--I don't know that I've ever claimed to be a nice guy. And few here would ever say I am, particularly moi, mimi, Tena, fourlegs and agave...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
don't be leaving me out, you poxie Quaker
ronjazzŠ |
06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
olexicon: LarryElvis is a chatty squeeky priest
He doesn't sound like much of a cat, but he's a sweetie-and-a-half.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
"Men can vacuum."
--Snow
And Meum Cum Vacuum is one third of a triptych depicting my Saturday, along with Meum Cum Power Washer and Meum Cum Barbecue.
R. McGeddon |
06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
Who else would fill this blog for 16 hours a day?
How would you know how much time I spend here? How much time have I been here in the past 2 weeks? Can you show me your time card?
Now when is the next picnic or Ecshacon? I'll be there!
Why would you come to our gatherings?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
You think I wouldn't alternate nights to get someone else to vacuum the living room?
Sheeeeeit.
V for Virginia
Do we have to have a husband? I was thinking we could just go pick up random guys at bars or museums or the frozen food section of the grocery store...
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
Lynne Russell, as popular evening anchor of CNN Headline News, was the first woman to become the regular, solo anchor of a daily evening prime time newscast on a television network. During her decade and a half with CNN, she has developed a cult following of men and women who admire her authoritative, objective delivery and her non-conformist on-air personality and demeanor. She loves telling them about their world, and it shows.
Yet Lynne's world is more than meets the eye. For years she has successfully balanced her journalism career and motherhood with her other "occupations": deputy sheriff in Fulton County (Atlanta) Georgia as a jail officer, and licensed private investigator. She holds two black belts in the martial art Choi Kwang Do, and is a certified open water SCUBA diver.
All of this prompted her to write her inspirational first book, How to Win Friends, Kick Ass and Influence People (Dec. 1999, St. Martin's Press). She explores the liberating concepts of each of us appreciating and utilizing our own abilities and talents, peaceful coexistence with the opposite gender, and the celebration of "la difference!" Actor/comedian Richard Belzer says, "If Xena, warrior princess could tell her story, this would be her book." The New York Times review quipped she's "a news anchor with the personality of a professional wrestler."
Before CNN, Lynne Russell reported and anchored at television and radio stations from Florida to Hawaii. She was the first recipient of the Russell P. Jandoli "Excellence in Journalism Award" presented by St. Bonaventure University. She majored in nursing at the University of Colorado.
She has taken a break from the daily news business to write her second book and launch her new company, Benevento Lampshades.
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
don't be leaving me out, you poxie Quaker
Oh yeah, sorry. I need to update my Excel spreadsheet...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
Lynne Russell on CBC newsworld from last year...
*sigh!*
I will always love her...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
He doesn't sound like much of a cat, but he's a sweetie-and-a-half.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Toby, my mom and dads cat is chatty like that, except it's a little bassier
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 7:27 pm | #
NTodd, the Tastee Freeze Quaker
one of a kind!
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:27 pm | #
Dick Cheney needs a huge kick in the balls with a steel tipped boot.
"I was thinking we could just go pick up random guys at bars or museums or the frozen food section of the grocery store..."
Whatru offerin? I can be had for homemade lasagne.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 7:28 pm | #
I also forgot mothra, blackno1, sittenpretty, DWD, Woody, Litz, JP...
I'm sure I'm leaving others out, so please don't be made if you aren't on my list of people who have told me I'm an ass.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:28 pm | #
Do we have to have a husband? I was thinking we could just go pick up random guys at bars or museums or the frozen food section of the grocery store...
Allie | 06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
Um. I don't have a husband. Could you please send me a detailed list of the bars, museums, gorcery stores to which you refer?
whiskey girl, a-go-go |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:28 pm | #
You think I wouldn't alternate nights to get someone else to vacuum the living room?
Sheeeeeit.
V for Virginia
Do we have to have a husband? I was thinking we could just go pick up random guys at bars or museums or the frozen food section of the grocery store...
Allie
I'm getting a vision for an alternate modern feminism, in which "dinner and a movie" is replaced by "clean my house and do my laundry".
Jennifer |
06.23.07 - 7:28 pm | #
we're a cult
so like chanting, robes, special handshake, special ring.
and sacrifices of goats (or a virgin)
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:28 pm | #
Dick Cheney needs a huge kick in the balls with a steel tipped boot.
NOW.
angryspittle
You're making a very dangerous assumption...
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:28 pm | #
I was thinking we could just go pick up random guys at bars or museums or the frozen food section of the grocery store...
Allie | 06.23.07 - 7:26 pm | #
note to self: volunteer to do the grocery shopping
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:28 pm | #
"Who else would fill this blog for 16 hours a day?"
How would you know how much time I spend here?
I always get a kick out of that. What, are you tracking me? How come YOU have all that time on your hands?
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:29 pm | #
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Again, for not caring, you sure take a lot of time responding to my posts.
And as far as saying things we don't do, I noticed that you continue to chirp about Tena, long after you said that you wouldn't. odd that.
And I don't need your permission to post here, so I don't care what you "say".
enjoy your night.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:29 pm | #
we are legion
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:29 pm | #
okay
peace ands humptiness forever
off to enjoy teh rest of my day
as I have to go cover a fishing tournament tommorow
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 7:29 pm | #
...please don't be mad if you aren't on my list of people who have told me I'm an ass.
Well, there is a line. Maybe you need an assistant?
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:29 pm | #
the 90 yr old bass guitarist was just humping the speaker
he is a superb bass guitarist thats for sure
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:30 pm | #
Again, for not caring, you sure take a lot of time responding to my posts.
When did I say I didn't care?
And as far as saying things we don't do, I noticed that you continue to chirp about Tena, long after you said that you wouldn't. odd that.
When did I say I wouldn't chirp about Tena?
And I don't need your permission to post here, so I don't care what you "say".
When did I say you need my permission?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:30 pm | #
Why would you come to our gatherings?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
i think someone has a little crush on you.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:30 pm | #
She has taken a break from the daily news business to write her second book and launch her new company, Benevento Lampshades.
olexicon,
Geez I think they left 'dominatrix' out of the bio!
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Agent Orange |
06.23.07 - 7:30 pm | #
Of course, what really pisses me off about NTodd was they way he laughed at my magnificent rod out behind the Tastee Freeze.
Ask my mommy about it, you pathetic Quaker loser - she's never had better!
General Zod | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 7:23 pm | #
At least copy the avatar as well, dipshit. Otherwise you just look pathetic. But then, you are.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:30 pm | #
"so please don't be made if you aren't on my list of people who have told me I'm an ass."
Don't think I have, but I'll be happy to volunteer to do so if the need should arise.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 7:30 pm | #
...please don't be mad if you aren't on my list of people who have told me I'm an ass.
Well, there is a line. Maybe you need an assistant?
That would be very helpful. Do you have any suggestions? Perhaps I could use two assistants. And a recreational vehicle...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:31 pm | #
General Zod, I think the way to Tena's heart is to comment on Atrios' posts, not to attack randomly. But I could be mistaken...
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:31 pm | #
All mentions of my steel-like rod will please my mommy so!
So come - entertain me! I find you lower-level mud people ever so amusing!
General Zod |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:31 pm | #
list of people who have told me I'm an ass.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
you're a funny fucker, though, no matter what. this place needs crises to become focused, otherwise it's pick, pick, pick...
ronjazzŠ |
06.23.07 - 7:31 pm | #
What dangerous assumption? Are his balls made of titanium or what?
angryspittle |
06.23.07 - 7:31 pm | #
isn't Mike Watt Playing with the stooges?
then yes that 90 year old bassist is awesome
P&H2 Electric boogalooo
olexicon, at woik |
06.23.07 - 7:31 pm | #
Ir's spooky how much LarryE looks like Tiger.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:32 pm | #
i think someone has a little crush on you.
I'm already smitten with Althouse, so he's just gonna have to wait until we get our divorce.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:32 pm | #
I always get a kick out of that. What, are you tracking me? How come YOU have all that time on your hands?
daveŠ
Yesterday, some guy sat on the barstool next to mine for eleven straight hours! And you just know that poor fool is back in a bar some place right now, drinkin' a beer and goin' on and and on about nothing. I tell ya, I'd kill myself! (Could you put a head on this, Sammy?)
Norm |
06.23.07 - 7:32 pm | #
Who else would fill this blog for 16 hours a day?
Allen Butler.
Richard |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:33 pm | #
the poor woman (who survived 7/7 and a vicious rape) was hounded, libeled and stalked by this woman called Felicity Jane Lowde
this insane woman told her she was a 'tragedy pimping whore' and that she made up her story about the rape she suffered.
all the while Felicity Jane Lowed claimed Rachel North was the one stalking her and lying.
this woman was thankfully arrested, after Rachel North kept her online at an internet cafe (the batshit insane lady had absconded from charges brought by the police)
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:33 pm | #
That would be very helpful. Do you have any suggestions?
What's it pay? Are there benefits? Could I telecommute?
I hope there's no clean-up at the Tastee Freeze involved, 'cause that's right out...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:33 pm | #
I'm already smitten with Althouse,
i hear there is a new antivenom for that
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:33 pm | #
Culture of TrÜth: Ir's spooky how much LarryE looks like Tiger.
Common, off-the-rack... no, wait. That's the other cat!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:34 pm | #
"so please don't be made if you aren't on my list of people who have told me I'm an ass."
Don't think I have, but I'll be happy to volunteer to do so if the need should arise.
What we really need is a phone tree so if somebody's not around, we can have backups who will pick up the slack and call me an ass in a pinch. I believe that's crucial to the efficient functioning of this blog and, dare I say it, the entire Internet. Perhaps even the world, though I wouldn't be so egotistical as to suggest such a thing. Even if it is true.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:34 pm | #
nazi gargoyles no less.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:34 pm | #
I'm already smitten with Althouse,
i hear there is a new antivenom for that
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Although really, I'd rather be on Flory's list.
mer |
06.23.07 - 7:35 pm | #
No, I tell people who criticize Atrios for not blogging about Issue X to get a blog. And I mock people such as She Who Shall Not Be Named because I think she went off the deep end. I know all of that is nuanced, and I can help you understand it better if you would like me to use shorter words.
Nice of you to decide "who goes off the deep end". Who the fuck are you to decree that she went off the deep end? Because you disagreed with her? You really are a pompous ass.
Seemed a lot of people agreed with her. Oh, but you don't want to here that, do you?
And I was joking about coming to one of your get-togethers. If you couldn't figure that out.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:35 pm | #
What's it pay? Are there benefits? Could I telecommute?
All negotiable, commensurate with experience.
I like ya, kid. Yer spunky.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:35 pm | #
"we can have backups who will pick up the slack and call me an ass in a pinch. "
Might these same people also be required to tell you to fuck off?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 7:35 pm | #
I'll just tip toe out...
whiskey girl, a-go-go |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:35 pm | #
They could be twins. They even sound alike.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:36 pm | #
"Smitten with Althouse"
Allie
Rhymes with "Shittin' the Outhouse"
Jennifer |
06.23.07 - 7:36 pm | #
Not just "an" ass. THE ass.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 7:36 pm | #
I thought it was a new fragrance...
you're thinking of Eau d' Mitt
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:36 pm | #
his bass guitarist is fucking excellent, looks about 90 thou but totally brilliant..
That would be Mike Watt - ex-Minutemen/Firehose/Dos - old SST cat... San Pedro rocks!
bill buckner |
06.23.07 - 7:36 pm | #
I'll just tip toe out...
whiskey girl, a-go-go
ove this way ...
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:37 pm | #
Culture of TrÜth: They could be twins. They even sound alike.
Awesome. I had to record him, 'cause I really couldn't describe the sound adequately with words.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:37 pm | #
Jeffraham,
I played Larry on my computer. Tiger was sitting right here.
He turned his head and stared, then wandered away with a little too much studied nonchalance.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:37 pm | #
isn't Mike Watt Playing with the stooges?
Yes and tomorrow night Wroclaw Poland!
Iggy didn't forget Poland!
He doesn't sound like much of a cat, but he's a sweetie-and-a-half.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
That sounds like my tomcat Gimli. Never meows but is always commenting on stuff using a trilling sound in his throat. I swear some of those sounds seem to have a question mark after them.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:37 pm | #
I like ya, kid. Yer spunky.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
He can probably wash that off...
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:38 pm | #
peace out.
charley
'night, charley
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 7:38 pm | #
Nice of you to decide "who goes off the deep end". Who the fuck are you to decree that she went off the deep end? Because you disagreed with her? You really are a pompous ass.
Because I think she went off the deep end. I don't believe I have the power to decree anything. Why do you insist on ascribing such amazing powers to me?
Regardless, I've made my case a number of times about where I stand re: Tena's blog and her insistence that this is a cult, A-listers hate their commenters, etc. I'd whore some of my posts/comments about that, but that would be self-promoting and wrong, eh?
Seemed a lot of people agreed with her. Oh, but you don't want to here that, do you?
Indeed, many did. And many did not. We discussed it on her defunct blog, other sites and here. What of it?
And I was joking about coming to one of your get-togethers. If you couldn't figure that out.
Really? Oh, and here I thought I could finally meet you and suck your cock behind that big tree in the Sheep Pasture.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:38 pm | #
If you didn't respond to him, NTodd, General Zod wouldn't have a reason to exist.
You know, I think your chatting with him is the only thing stopping him from putting a bullet in his own brain.
Cut it out.
Richard |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:39 pm | #
Might these same people also be required to tell you to fuck off?
Well, that's a specialty that few really can execute with grace. We have a special department for that. However, I might consider a liaison position that would help facilitate communication between the two organizations.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:40 pm | #
You know, I think your chatting with him is the only thing stopping him from putting a bullet in his own brain.
Cut it out.
Richard |
A coward dies a thousand deaths, a hero dies just once!
You know, I think your chatting with him is the only thing stopping him from putting a bullet in his own brain.
I'm a humanitarian. I don't want any human to die unnecessarily.
Probably because I'm a Quaker. Did you know that I'm a Quaker? I am. A Quaker. And we Quakers--Quakers being the sect to which I belong--don't like people dying, even people who aren't Quakers like we are. Or Quakers like I am. My being a Quaker and all.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:41 pm | #
And I was joking about coming to one of your get-togethers. If you couldn't figure that out.
Really? Oh, and here I thought I could finally meet you and suck your cock behind that big tree in the Sheep Pasture.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Why do I not find it strange that you hang out in a sheep pasture now?
But enough about your divorce.
Your flying monkeys need more training.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:41 pm | #
"I'm sure I'm leaving others out, so please don't be made if you aren't on my list of people who have told me I'm an ass."
Now - just to make sure - is a pompous ass the same as an ass or is it another category? Enquiring minds want to know.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 7:42 pm | #
What we really need is a phone tree so if somebody's not around, we can have backups who will pick up the slack and call me an ass in a pinch.
"Phone tree?" Yeesh!
Howzabout a PHP guest book?
It's the 21st century, dude!
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:42 pm | #
My family were Quakers until they got kicked out for fighting in the Civil War. For the Union, of course.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 7:43 pm | #
Why do I not find it strange that you hang out in a sheep pasture now?
It's a spot in Central Park, baffoon.
Now - just to make sure - is a pompous ass the same as an ass or is it another category? Enquiring minds want to know.
I'll have to consult with HR, but I believe 'ass' is the base title, with modifiers such as 'pompous', 'spotty' and 'gitfucking' depending on clearance level.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:43 pm | #
If you didn't respond to him, NTodd, General Zod wouldn't have a reason to exist.
You are correct. Then I would have to go back to Kos, where one posts and then has to wait for comments, instead of here, where through the beaty of haloscan, a select few can overrun a thread and blog like a bunch of roaches.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:44 pm | #
Yes, I know I said I was leaving. But mommy's in the tub, and I have a few minutes to kill before I have to dry her off.
Then comes the foot massage - and the buffing of her corns!
It's a full Saturday night ahead of me!
General Zod |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:44 pm | #
Have fun, all
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:45 pm | #
My family were Quakers until they got kicked out for fighting in the Civil War. For the Union, of course.
Oddly enough, that's almost the same story as mine.
Except they were fighting over an onion....
atablarasa, omega hippy |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:45 pm | #
My family were Quakers until they got kicked out for fighting in the Civil War. For the Union, of course.
They coulda started their own Meeting! There have been a number of Quakers who have gone to war because they felt there was an overriding need to. Some Meetings might have been more tolerant of that than others, though certainly around the Civil War most I suspect would have frowned on members fighting, even though they were abolitionists.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:45 pm | #
Oh, and if you're wondering about my Gravatar - I ditched it to give my "namestealer" a little jolt.
I love it when the smoke comes out of his ears!
General Zod |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:45 pm | #
My voice sounds like Phylis Diller !
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 7:46 pm | #
Except they were fighting over an onion....
atablarasa, omega hippy
Fighting over onion rings, I could believe...
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 7:46 pm | #
"...blog like a bunch of roaches."
--General Zod
Twinkle. twinkle, little star,
What you say is what you are.
I forget who taught me that little diddy. Rings true for you.
mer |
06.23.07 - 7:46 pm | #
where through the beaty of haloscan, a select few can overrun a thread and blog like a bunch of roaches.
That made about as much sense as a Bush radio address.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:46 pm | #
My voice sounds like Phylis Diller !
General Zod
Ah-ha-HA!!
Zod is Fang!!
Phyllis Diller |
06.23.07 - 7:47 pm | #
Probably because I'm a Quaker. Did you know that I'm a Quaker? I am. A Quaker. And we Quakers--Quakers being the sect to which I belong--don't like people dying, even people who aren't Quakers like we are. Or Quakers like I am. My being a Quaker and all.
Do you have any of those granola bars with the chocolate chips?
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:47 pm | #
Do you have any of those granola bars with the chocolate chips?
Nope, sorry, just sold the last batch to Haliburton.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:48 pm | #
Just got here. Wasn't this topic "disgust" before?
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 7:49 pm | #
So why did Cutts kill Davis, assuming he did?
Snow, Contrary |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:49 pm | #
Except they were fighting over an onion....
atablarasa, omega hippy
Well, it was the style at the time...
Allie |
06.23.07 - 7:50 pm | #
Who gave Gilly the right to decree what has or has not been discussed or disgust?
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:50 pm | #
He knew the baby would turn into the next Hitler.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:51 pm | #
Except they were fighting over an onion....
atablarasa, omega hippy
Well, it was the style at the time...
Allie
Hmmm...all this time I thought it was a leek in the belt, not an onion.
I guess I was wrong.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:52 pm | #
Midle of an 11 inning game and the signal in NYC goes out.
Culture of TrÜth
I know being pedantic is someone else's gig, but how can you possible know when you are in the middle of and 11 inning game?
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 7:53 pm | #
My family were Quakers until they got kicked out for fighting in the Civil War. For the Union, of course.
That sounds like a branch my family. They ran a station on the underground railroad, but left the church when the war broke out.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:53 pm | #
Nigeria's main trade unions have called off their four-day-old general strike over a rise in fuel prices after reaching an agreement with the government, both sides said in a statement.
"The general strike is suspended with effect from midnight," said a joint statement issued by unions and the government on Saturday.
Union leaders met government negotiators after receiving a letter from Umaru Yar'Adua, the Nigerian president, pledging not to raise petrol prices at the pump for one year.
Rioters stole Yasser Arafats Nobel Peace Prize. It was placed on eBay to be auctioned alongside Roseanne Barrs Grammy, Paris Hiltons Oscar and Dan Quayles Spelling Bee Championship Potatoe.
; |
06.23.07 - 7:54 pm | #
"Midst", if that better?
Middle, as in, your boss calls you and you say "I am in the middle of doing something, I'll call you back" and return to blogging.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 7:54 pm | #
Except they were fighting over an onion....
atablarasa, omega hippy
Well, it was the style at the time...
Allie
I keep meaning to memorize that whole speech -- it cracks me wide open every time.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 7:55 pm | #
Speaking of paranoiac nutjobs:
It's mainly that I'm identified as the kind of person who is supposed to toe the liberal line. I got that message for years before I started blogging. I have seen how liberals and lefties use shunning and disapproval to try to make it too much trouble to criticize them, and since I started blogging, I just don't respond to that anymore. So they kick up a storm in the usual way, and since I don't respond they crank it up more and more. At this point, I think they are afraid of my clout, since I'm a high-profile blogger, often cited and asked to write in mainstream media. They would like to ruin me, and when they think I've said the thing that could be used to ruin me, they pull out all the stops.
He knew the baby would turn into the next Hitler.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
I came to him in a dream and told him the kid was gonna turn out to be another George W. Bush.
Fucker went nuts. Can't say I blame him; one of that asshole in history is enough.
Jesus |
06.23.07 - 7:55 pm | #
Lebanese troops have clashed with armed men in the northern city of Tripoli, near the Nahr al-Bared refugee camp.
The fighting began after troops raided a house belonging to a suspected member of the Fatah al-Islam group shortly before midnight on Saturday, security sources said.
My family were Quackers...
Donald Duck |
06.23.07 - 7:56 pm | #
My mother was kicked out of the Church of God Mtn. Assembly for wearing coveralls to work. She worked on the bomb at Oak Ridge, TN. She had no idea what she was working on, but couldn't discuss it at all and therefore couldn't explain her "pants".
I never let her live it down.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 7:56 pm | #
BTW, within minutes of my making a comment on that, BAM! There she was.
On an otherwise dead thread, four posts down from her latest.
Think I'll start making sure all the doors are locked...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:02 pm | #
NTodd appears to have been skewing the statistics. CNN is reporting that "seventeen percent of men and 10 percent of women reported having two or more sexual partners in the past year" and "twenty-six percent of men and 17 percent of women have tried cocaine or other street drugs (not including marijuana) at some time in their life."
atablarasa, omega hippy |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:03 pm | #
Ah, daughter upstairs listening to music.
I hear Elvis Costello's "Allison."
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
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06.23.07 - 8:03 pm | #
"seventeen percent of men and 10 percent of women reported having two or more sexual partners in the past year" and "twenty-six percent of men and 17 percent of women have tried cocaine or other street drugs (not including marijuana) at some time in their life."
atablarasa, omega hippy
Er, no.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:04 pm | #
CNN is reporting that "seventeen percent of men and 10 percent of women reported having two or more sexual partners in the past year"
depends on to whom i am reporting and what kind of impression i want to leave.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:04 pm | #
Someone give me a link. I refuse to bookmark her. I want to leave a comment.
mer |
06.23.07 - 8:04 pm | #
I skew a lot of things.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:04 pm | #
Why aren't we in the street?
bo |
06.23.07 - 8:04 pm | #
"I skew a lot of things."
Including peoples images of Quakers.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 8:05 pm | #
am i still here?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Nope. You're just a figment of my imagination.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:05 pm | #
Someone give me a link. I refuse to bookmark her.
I refuse to link her.
Go to her site - althouse.blogspot.com - and look for the long rambling post underneath the pretty pictures of flowers.
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:05 pm | #
"twenty-six percent of men and 17 percent of women have tried cocaine or other street drugs (not including marijuana) at some time in their life."
atablarasa, omega hippy
Of all people over, presumably, 18? Is it just my experience clouding my objectivity again, or is that 26/17 number full of shit, given the number of boomers they must have interviewed?
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 8:05 pm | #
V, I'm betting on it being forgetfulness on the part of the Boomers.
atablarasa, omega hippy |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:06 pm | #
Why aren't we in the street?
We should be. Every day. That's where I'm trying to get.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:06 pm | #
Why aren't we in the street?
bo
No one will be watching us...
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 8:07 pm | #
The Blithering Idiot post in question is titled "Writing Under a Pseudonym."
The real manic-depressive paranoiac shit is in the comments.
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:07 pm | #
Including peoples images of Quakers.
There's a reason PYM hasn't made me their spokesquaker.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:07 pm | #
Nope. You're just a figment of my imagination.
Lumpenprolitariot
you should be more careful what you eat.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:08 pm | #
No one will be watching us...
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore | 06.23.07 - 8:07 pm | #
The security cams will be...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:08 pm | #
There's a reason PYM hasn't made me their spokesquaker.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
because you are an ass?
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:08 pm | #
V, I'm betting on it being forgetfulness on the part of the Boomers.
atablarasa, omega hippy
Forgetfulness. Shyeah. Riiiiight.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 8:08 pm | #
The real manic-depressive paranoiac shit is in the comments. - daveŠ
but you need a marrow spoon for the really good stuff.
bo |
06.23.07 - 8:09 pm | #
There's a reason PYM hasn't made me their spokesquaker.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
because you are an ass?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
And here I thought that went without saying.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:09 pm | #
666 isn't a cool number.
Monica_A: Super Genius |
06.23.07 - 8:10 pm | #
Trademark dave, thanks for the link. I decided I couldn't stay and read that screed.
mer |
06.23.07 - 8:10 pm | #
I not only refuse to bookmark Althouse, I refuse to go there. I rely on Altmouse to fill me in.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:10 pm | #
Hey, Shaw! How have you been?
Monica_A: Super Genius |
06.23.07 - 8:13 pm | #
I not only refuse to bookmark Althouse, I refuse to go there. I rely on Altmouse to fill me in.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
i posted at alhouse once, re: the onion rings - so i could blogwhore my whopper.
one of her supporters came back trying to belittle me for having only 3k hits since 12/06, which "works out to 150 a day - probably less if you don't count your family"
ouch.
he was only off by 125 a day.
math is not their strong suit.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:14 pm | #
I decided I couldn't stay and read that screed.
Her performance in the comments is pure gold.
Her big thing now, aside from the "they all hate me because I'm so brilliant" delusion, is that there was a "blogswarm" against her and calling her "crazy" was a result of "groupthink."
Someone should pass her "writings" along to a clinical psychiatrist. I'd love to see their assessment.
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:14 pm | #
Gilly, that original theme song sucked. Makes the familiar one seem better.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 8:14 pm | #
Hey, Shaw! How have you been?
Monica_A: Super Genius
Fine. Thank you. And I hope the same for you. Just had a lovely mean at home (scallops over spinach pesto with fresh corn niblets and sundried tomatoes) and now we're going out for an apres dinner drink.
Shaw Kenawe |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:15 pm | #
I hope Christine Todd Whitman's first question is
how do you live with yourself?
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:15 pm | #
Gilly, that original theme song sucked. Makes the familiar one seem better.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore | 06.23.07 - 8:14 pm | #
I know. I had to lobby Congress to get it changed.
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 8:15 pm | #
Agreeing that 1+1=2 is not groupthink. That one annoys me almost as much as the cavalier use of 'ad hominem' and 'begs the question.'
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:16 pm | #
that original theme song sucked. Makes the familiar one seem better.
you should be more careful what you eat.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
You could just be a bit of underdone potato.
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:17 pm | #
mean=meal
Shaw Kenawe
I cook a mean meal.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 8:17 pm | #
Zod Finally gone?
Man, that is some tiresome shit.
blerb, fucking back on |
06.23.07 - 8:17 pm | #
Agreeing that 1+1=2 is not groupthink. That one annoys me almost as much as the cavalier use of 'ad hominem' and 'begs the question.'
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
i hate when people accuse others of being "cavalier"
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:17 pm | #
Agreeing that 1+1=2 is not groupthink.
Yeah, it didn't take a Freudian scholar to figure out she's nucking futz...
daveŠ |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:17 pm | #
Dick Cheney needs a huge kick in the balls with a steel tipped boot.
NOW.
angryspittle
You're making a very dangerous assumption...
Allie |
That he HAS balls?
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:18 pm | #
mean=meal
Shaw Kenawe
I cook a mean meal.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore
You could just be a bit of underdone potato.
Lumpenprolitariot
or a lump of undigested meat
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:18 pm | #
:slam: PHEW! ok, ok everyone, settle down.
Listen up people! Everything is all going to be fine, it's ok, everything's allright. Dana Perrino just said and I quote "I will go ahead, I will let that debate be held". So that's it, it's cool now, we don't have to worry about those two or three posts one or two of us made here over the past several years. Admittedly it was a little nerve-wracking there for a few months, touch-and-go as they say hahaha, but here you see, nothing to get uptight about. Perrino's cool so that means we can talk about the war'n stuff, just like we thought, no biggie.
Dick Cheney needs a huge kick in the balls with a steel tipped boot.
NOW.
angryspittle
You're making a very dangerous assumption...
Allie |
That he HAS balls?
Terry C, End Bush's War Now!
He's got something smacking W's taint.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 8:19 pm | #
i hate when people accuse others of being "cavalier"
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 8:17 pm | #
Unless you're from Cleveland. Yeah !
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 8:19 pm | #
I tossed 2 chipotles into my pot of black-eyed peas, but they didn't do squat, so I resorted to a teaspoon of liquid smoke. Does that make me a bad person?
blerb |
06.23.07 - 8:20 pm | #
If Jeevan is around I would like say thanks, my haloscan has been performing pretty decently the last couple of days. I know usually you only get complaints, but since the wheel hasn't been squeeky lately, I thought a kudos was in order.
Now, where is my :rocket: ?
mer |
06.23.07 - 8:20 pm | #
I owned a Cavalier once. Not such a great car...
atablarasa, omega hippy |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:20 pm | #
The Butcher
The Baker
And Vermonter Quaker
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 8:22 pm | #
"...a teaspoon of liquid smoke. Does that make me a bad person?"
--blerb
I use it sparingly, but sometimes I do use it.
mer |
06.23.07 - 8:22 pm | #
"Or any other Chrysler product."
Chevy!!
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 8:22 pm | #
I loved my citation.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 06.23.07 - 8:22 pm | #
What do you want, a medal, or a chest to pin it on ?
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 8:22 pm | #
Zod Finally gone?
Man, that is some tiresome shit.
blerb, fucking back on
Ursa cooks up some mean hot dogs...... tasty.
General Zod |
06.23.07 - 8:22 pm | #
Dana Perrino just said and I quote "I will go ahead, I will let that debate be held".
Fuck Dana Peroxide.
Sideways....with a rusty chainsaw.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:23 pm | #
Congratulations, everybody! We are now the current Reich's new Jews!
-----
But Reynolds, Patterson, and some on the right actually seem to buy into the claptrap. There's a disconcerting sincerity to it. Indeed, Patterson was recently asked, "Surely you're not calling Democrats traitors. Or are you?" To which he responded, "I am." He did not appear to be kidding.
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bo, Godwinner of the Thread |
06.23.07 - 8:23 pm | #
Mer- couldn't make the amazing bean soup without it.
hylander,just pissed off |
06.23.07 - 8:23 pm | #
Well, I don't watch Larry King, so, whatever. No water off my back.
mer |
06.23.07 - 8:24 pm | #
"What do you want, a medal, or a chest to pin it on ?"
I'll take the chest. Can I have Pamela Anderson's? Then I can leave my citation in the shade and not worry about it fading.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.23.07 - 8:24 pm | #
Mer- couldn't make the amazing bean soup without it.
hylander,just pissed off | 06.23.07 - 8:23 pm | #
That's what Fred REALLY smells like
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 8:24 pm | #
CNN is also promoting Paris Hilton, speaking of unreasonable coverage of white women...
atablarasa, omega hippy |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:25 pm | #
Well, I don't watch Larry King, so, whatever. No water off my back.
mer
We don't need to watch it.
We have the jack troll to parrot everything on Larry The Toad's show.
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:25 pm | #
couldn't make the amazing bean soup without it.
Usually, I add copious quantities of vulcanized pork product to any such potage, but I've got a mostly vegetarian who will just barely tolerate a bit of chicken stock to contend with.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 8:25 pm | #
I resorted to a teaspoon of liquid smoke. Does that make me a bad person? - blerb
Your liver may think so.
bo |
06.23.07 - 8:25 pm | #
CNN is also promoting Paris Hilton, speaking of unreasonable coverage of white women...
atablarasa, omega hippy
Skank TV
Terry C, End Bush's War Now! |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:26 pm | #
Tweety fluffs Ghouliani like he's on the set of Deep Throat, swoons at the mere whiff of the Aqua Velva of Fred Thompson, and takes flying lessons just so he can land a 737 on Mitt Romney's shoulders and the Kretinous Kurtz has the pure jejunacity of questioning his suitablity to moderate a Rethug debate because he used to work for Democrats?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
06.23.07 - 8:26 pm | #
V for Virginia: I need to see that -- it's in my Netflix queue.
I rented this via a vending machine -- Redbox. There's one a couple of miles from me, in the McD's.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:39 pm | #
Kewl! I went to check my queue and somehow remembered that I had never read the sadlyno post from earlier, and fell into the wormhole that is Gary Ruppert's brain . . . so i need to go check it now.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 8:42 pm | #
The Fly, 1958
"A scientist has a horrific accident when he tries to use his newly invented teleportation device."
Damn, my older brother loved scary movies and we would tag along with him to the Princess Theatre.
mer |
06.23.07 - 8:42 pm | #
And now I need to go make dinner for that hard workin' man 'o mine.
See y'all around the tubes.
V for Virginia |
06.23.07 - 8:43 pm | #
and fell into the wormhole that is Gary Ruppert's brain . . . so i need to go check it now.
So you're of the Body now? You have realized in a shattering epiphany that everything that was fucked up about the '70s was the fault of the liberals?
Because of the missing dead white woman, Fox News is postponing the Frank Gaffney Islam vs Islamist movie.
Dead white pregnant woman actually trumps conservative agitprop on Faux news.
trifecta |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:46 pm | #
I was struggling with this for the past day, but I've decided I support the Vikings in 800 AD
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 8:46 pm | #
I was struggling with this for the past day, but I've decided I support the Vikings in 800 AD
Which ones? Don't go for the Greenlanders: they fail after only 400 years. The Icelanders make it, but it sucks. Me, I'm backing the good folks in Roanoke...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:48 pm | #
Dead white pregnant woman actually trumps conservative agitprop on Faux news.
trifecta
Which just shows to go ya: it's all about the money, not the ideas.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 8:50 pm | #
Which ones? Don't go for the Greenlanders: they fail after only 400 years. The Icelanders make it, but it sucks. Me, I'm backing the good folks in Roanoke...
NTodd, Boring MEQUA | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 8:48 pm | #
Well, when the Vikings began invading and plundering England, the church decided it was because the peasants weren't being xtian enough. That did it for me.
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 8:50 pm | #
Over Under Sideways Down - Live
Wow. I just wikipedia'd the Yardbirds and discovered that the lead singer Keith Relf died in 1976 by accidental electrocution while playing an electric guitar. Dang.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 8:50 pm | #
Which just shows to go ya: it's all about the money, not the ideas.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Hey, The Simpsons and Family Guy are on Fox. It just goes to show that Murdock is a corporatist. He gets his legislation by pushing the Republican party line on Fox News while getting profits from more liberal stuff on his networks.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 8:58 pm | #
fuck you all
Tena Hollingsworth |
06.23.07 - 8:58 pm | #
Fuck off.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA
Fuck off double, ya Golden Ass.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 8:58 pm | #
There is the most gorgeous sunset over Hell Gate bridge.
This was the perfect day in NYC. Sunny, dry, not too hot...
I wish I could share it with y'all.
Allie | 06.23.07 - 8:56 pm | #
Green as Jello. Perfect in LA, but...LA is Cleveland with Palm Trees.
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 8:59 pm | #
Them Yardbirds could be cool.
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male
That rough, early version of Dazed and Confused with totally different words that was a bit down the YouTube queue was pretty interesting too....
blerb |
06.23.07 - 8:59 pm | #
and fell into the wormhole that is Gary Ruppert's brain . . . so i need to go check it now.
So you're of the Body now? You have realized in a shattering epiphany that everything that was fucked up about the '70s was the fault of the liberals?
Welcome, sister!
blerb
Yay! Be sure you get the rockin' sweatsuits and the Nikes!
Allie |
06.23.07 - 9:00 pm | #
It was sure a damn nice day here in Berkeley today.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 9:00 pm | #
Green as Jello. Perfect in LA, but...LA is Cleveland with Palm Trees.
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male
The best decision I ever made (well, the second best) was to move from LA to NYC.
Although I'll be crying and moaning and curled up in the fetal position when the humidity hits...
Allie |
06.23.07 - 9:01 pm | #
That rough, early version of Dazed and Confused with totally different words that was a bit down the YouTube queue was pretty interesting too....
blerb | 06.23.07 - 8:59 pm | #
I'm watching "Shapes", I'll check that one out next.
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 9:02 pm | #
It was sure a damn nice day here in Berkeley today.
Prolly because all you fucking hippies were dropping acid.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 9:03 pm | #
So we've got an attractive white woman whose fetus was "murdered" along with her. More of the agitprop to support the notion that a fetus is a full person.
Word. Lame laws. I don't have a problem with a law against intentional or reckless abortion against the will of the mother.
But it ain't "murder." Sure the fuck ain't "murder" any more than a dude ripping off a kitten's head is "murder."
Stunt Woman |
06.23.07 - 9:03 pm | #
It was sure a damn nice day here in Berkeley today.
Was? Still is. We just fired up the grill and the in-laws are working the Persian magic on some kebabs.
Meanwhile, I'm in the office working. With a cold Tecate.
Stunt Woman |
06.23.07 - 9:05 pm | #
So we've got an attractive white woman whose fetus was "murdered" along with her. More of the agitprop to support the notion that a fetus is a full person.
Word. Lame laws. I don't have a problem with a law against intentional or reckless abortion against the will of the mother.
But it ain't "murder." Sure the fuck ain't "murder" any more than a dude ripping off a kitten's head is "murder."
Stunt Woman
You really shouldn't be discussing that. It's silly.
Allie |
06.23.07 - 9:05 pm | #
Prolly because all you fucking hippies were dropping acid.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 9:03 pm | #
I wonder if they still have "No Dealing" signs in the coffee houses.
Gilly Gonzylon, Alphalpha Male |
06.23.07 - 9:07 pm | #
That rough, early version of Dazed and Confused with totally different words that was a bit down the YouTube queue was pretty interesting too....
Of course y'all know that Jimmy bought that song from a certain Jake Holmes who released two fucking incredible LPs on Tower Records back in the day. His version of Dazed and Confused appears on his first LP.
I can't recommend the first two records highly enough. Solid all the way through, if you're into a relatively low key somewhat downer psych vibe -- which I am ALL THE TIME.
Sadly, Jake Holmes subsequent records (for Reprise) suck ass terribly. This is why it's important for artists to avoid bullshit producers who whisper in their ears about what the "public" want.
Holmes must still be around today. I have no idea what he's up to but I bet he wishes he hadn't sold his song to Jimmy Page (perhaps the greatest musician-businessman in the history of the biz).
Stunt Woman |
06.23.07 - 9:10 pm | #
Back online at home.
Greetings, bats.
Gomez w new OS |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 9:10 pm | #
Was? Still is. We just fired up the grill and the in-laws are working the Persian magic on some kebabs.
I just nestled my foil-wrapped taters in the coals. Steaks, etc. will go no in 45 minutes or so. I think it will be a shot of Hornitos and Trumer for me. Work? Not so much.
blerb |
06.23.07 - 9:11 pm | #
I gave you a new thread, you ungrateful fuckers.
Thers |
Homepage |
06.23.07 - 9:11 pm | #
Gotta run, but let me just say,
republics = third reich
bush = hitler
Bobby, Who ♥ Al Gore |
06.23.07 - 9:11 pm | #
Prolly because all you fucking hippies were dropping acid.
NTodd, Boring MEQUA | Homepage | 06.23.07 - 9:03 pm | #
I wonder if they still have "No Dealing" signs in the coffee houses.
I brought this up a few weeks back but up until a couple years ago Smokey Joe's vegetarian diner (in the "gourmet ghetto" area just north of downtown) had a "Thank You for Pot Smoking" sign prominently displayed and, less prominently but not hidden, a pot pipe next to the cash register.