HULK SMASHED
Impeach already
evil. thers is Evil. i must sleep now, to prepare for battle with such Evil.
I am ready for alt.universe.reality
No one could have predicted that Harvey Birdman would be quite so prophetic.
I'm not evil. I'm just blogged that way.
in my dreams, thers, Molly and I are having really exotic, hawt, sexual encounters in which you are tied to a chair watching helplessly while i satisfy her like never before, and she comes (heh) over to the Dark Syde. after that, we climb the Obstacle together and diss our DI. but that's just a dream, so you don't have to worry.
for now.
I'm glad the jdw hypocrite has ran away ... peace is easier without fanatics on either side
in my dreams
If you could arrange the babysitting... you have no idea.
From below:
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) as a senator from the Indian region of Punjab and criticized her record on outsourcing.
Howie Gothere
So, you're saying that she has voted for, or sponsored legislation to lower the caps on H-1B visas?
Link?
Why on earth should one candidate quit before the contest is finished? Democrats need not be so fainthearted.
Because, Ellen, she has lost. The voters have finally rejected her in favor of another candidate. Not necessarily why you think either.
There are reasons for voting for people other than gender or race. Certainly desiring to have someone of your gender represent the country is not wrong. Nor is it wrong to see someone represent those who have been so hurt by society for so long. But there really and truly are other reasons.
I have had people cast aspersions my way because I don't like Hillary Clinton. They claim, erroneously in my estimation, that I do not like her because she is a woman. If I did not like Barack Obama, would it be because he is black? Or a man? Or left handed? Or smarter than me? Or a better speaker? Or more talented?
Choosing a candidate to support entails other factors beyond the simple. I am a supporter of the more liberal positions. To these ends neither candidate represents what I most want in a candidate: an end to the war, social justice, absolute reform of our heinous and hurtful economic system, a raising of our educational system (Not a razing of the same - when Obama speaks of merit pay for teachers, I cringe, for example)
But this being America, I cannot dictate what I want: it does not work that way. And to say that people are not voting for Hillary because she is a woman is to dismiss the horrible and hurtful things she has said and done as being unimportant to the one true qualification (in your mind.)
Dividing the country. Lying. Doing anything to gain an advantage. These are not things I can accept from anyone and when they do it: I do not like it. Barack and his people have done things that are questionable as well. I am not saying that they have not: I am saying that they have, in my estimation, done less. YMMV.
Voting for the war was wrong. A lot of people did it. Refusing to accept that it was wrong is inexcusable. Yet, she carries on as if her vote did not matter. It did.
I am sorry. That argument is specious.
Lambert Strether is a racist asshole. I'll never post over there.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 05.10.08 - 1:33 am | #
ok, sweetie. i hear you, i've heard you, again and again and again.. but: can i ask you this? if i, "mullato whore" that i am in truth, and my blogmate X, Black Man 6'6" Southsyiiide Native and Nigger Extrdnr. that he is, and others of Color who blog there all agree: Lambert isn't a racist, and we know so because we speak, write and deal with him him person on a regular basis...where does that leave your "analysis?"
you disagree about candidates. OK. fine. are you still on the same side against McCentury? are you willing to work, Hard, to prove so? i just got off the phone with my "racist" blogmate. he failed to insult my race, or stupidity for disagreeing with him. you don't have to post at corrente, it's a free country. but blanket/disparage much? i know who has worked, *worked* and not bitched on the blogosphere, for racial justice. i don't know that about you; i know it from personal experience as well as local ME results, in lambert's case. go on, insult him. it's your right. but i'm tellling you, *as your friend, trying hard to remain your friend* you're wrong about him.
you two just disagree about candidates, whom, i'll remind (and did to him) you both: Don't Care About You At all, and will lie, cheat and steal and fuck you over, to serve their own purposes. in the end, only "we" will be here for you when it counts. g'night, dear. and all. be well.
"I'm glad the jdw hypocrite has ran away ... peace is easier without fanatics on either side"
i'm here, buttmunch, having handed you your ass below.
I don't know why Hillary is still campaigning, with absolutely no outside money sources.
It's getting kinda weird.
(sorry about the long post. I am heading to bed but that argument - last made by Ellen Malcom in the Washington Post - really irritates me. I find it just amazing that reasonable and intelligent people can make it.
I just want someone who will LEAD without pissing people off.
"I don't know why Hillary is still campaigning, with absolutely no outside money."
i give her credit for wanting to finish. it's how she's doing it that sucks.
DWD - A Relic
:applause:
And I'll just say again, tearing down the front runner, when a person has no fucking chance in hell of winning is a lot goddamn worse than what some poster says about another poster or a blog.
God freaking damn. How stupid is this?
because we speak, write and deal with him him person on a regular basis...where does that leave your "analysis?"
It leaves her analysis as better informed on what is posted at that site.
Spend an hour or two reading down the comments in a couple of recent threads. You'll be enlightened.
And with that, I am going to bed.
Best regards to all
I just want someone who will LEAD without pissing people off.
You want a dictator.
and i am off to bed, also. enjoy your non-fanatical peace.
I don't know why Hillary is still campaigning, with absolutely no outside money sources.
I don't care if she keeps campaigning until the primaries are oer so long as she focuses on the issues she thinks are important and/or attacks McSame.
Negative campaigning against the Democratic party's nominee for President, however, won't help anyone at all except for the GOP.
Negative campaigning against the Democratic party's nominee for President, however, won't help anyone at all except for the GOP.
You said it much nicer than I did. Kudos.
May the good guys and gals win.
There are reasons for voting for people other than gender or race. Certainly desiring to have someone of your gender represent the country is not wrong. Nor is it wrong to see someone represent those who have been so hurt by society for so long. But there really and truly are other reasons.
Can you say DLC? The Repuglican arm of the left.
The last two presidential elections were stolen, and a terrorist attack was committed by this Administration on it's own people, so its power could be consolidated. Given the insurgent candidacy of the Obama campaign, and the fact that power concedes nothing without a fight, what does the immediate future hold?
At this point, Clinton isn't doing much of anything other than making Obama spend money in places and ways he wouldn't have to otherwise.
I'm not sure how much it will really matter. McCain doesn't seem to be able to raise money any better than Clinton...
"I'm glad the jdw hypocrite has ran away ... peace is easier without fanatics on either side"
If Hillary is in favor of raising the H1-B caps, and at the same time also in favor of increased outsourcing of high-tech engineering jobs overseas, then she should be called on it.
In one of my current jobs I have to clean up the mess made by an Indian company, who were apparently just another group of braindead incompetent software developers. And they got paid a hell of a lot more to develop this crap than I am getting to redo it the right way. So if you think outsourcing is a good thing, then fuck you.
and the fact that power concedes nothing without a fight, what does the immediate future hold?
Duane V, Kirbykrackle | 05.10.08 - 1:54 am | #
a worthy battle...
This whole "Hey, let's have it out in Denver, it'll be cool" is about the most childish thing I've heard.
Barack Obama is the nominee. From right now let's make sure he takes the oath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=Q...feature=related
i'm here, buttmunch, having handed you your ass below. -jdw
yeah, I saw that- too bad you HAD to scoot to bed without a cite ...
my teeth are brushed, my twat is clean. i'm going to bed. but je repete, and no one who fails to answer this gets my attention ever again:
you disagree about (dem) candidates. OK. fine. are you still on the same side against McCentury? are you willing to work, Hard, to prove so?
what are you willing to do? what have you done? what will you do, Today? tomorrow?
bitching on a blog about other bloggers: Lame. gnight, i've got a Party GOTV action to go to tomorrow. you?
I've never called for her to leave the race. Hell, finally Oregon gets some love. She needs to pay off Penn and if suckers want to help, go for it. Just don't ask Obama donors to cover it.
Night, all.
Sorry for the long rant. Sometimes the stupid does overwhelm me. Seriously, how can intelligent people bundle their dreams and place them on the back of flawed individuals and then ignore those same flaws and then feign hurt when others go, WTF?
Peace.
a worthy battle...
fokowi
I hope we win..
remember 80% of the public aren't paying any attention yet.
I hope we win..
Duane V, Kirbykrackle
Read this.
We'll win
http://blog.oregonlive.com/elect...obamavisit2008/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=v...feature=related
I write software for a living, and I am not against H1-Bs.
Good programmers are always hard to come by, and some of the best I've known come from overseas... at least pre-Bush many of these people want to stay here in the US once their servitude is up (yes, many of them are taken advantage of and are paid less than they should).
Some of them go on to start great businesses here and overall are a net positive for this country.
*sigh* My guilt index is creeping upward at an increasing pace, for essentially dropping out of corrente when things started to get uncomfortable.
I could have stuck around and, if not fought for at least represented my point of view. Which has evolved over time as have other people's.
Lambert is not a racist for chrissakes. He got badly beaten up by overenthusiastic Obama fanatics early on and like anybody who feels that they are being bullied, commenced to fight back. That involved standing up for the Other Side and, well, things have gone as they have gone.
At first I honestly felt like Corrente was being a refuge for honorable people on both sides to present their case and their arguments. Maybe we got an influx of pro-HRC people at too fast a pace for us to keep up with. At any rate pretty soon it was an all-HRC-all-the-time joint like the other ones rootless was citing (I guess...I don't read Taylor Marsh or the other ones he mentioned, and for that matter cut back my Kos reading to once a week for the Saturday Gardening Blog for awhile there.)
It's time for standing up, brushing off the dirt, shaking hands and applying the Bactine of healing. In gallon quantities if need be. After I read the Gardening Blog tomorrow I shall start my contribution at the home I've been neglecting.
Ok, I can't resist.
bitching on a blog about other bloggers: Lame
Really?
I'm looking at Corrente and in just a glance or two, I see bitching about Josh Marshall, Chris Bowers, and Hullabaloo.
Maybe you should take this message around, eh?
I write software for a living, and I am not against H1-Bs.
Guess what I sailed in on?
Guess what I sailed in on?
point proved.
It's not over yet!
and overall are a net positive for this country.
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Homepage | 05.10.08 - 2:01 am | #
have worked with people from the ukraine, phillipnes, and india.
outstanding minds, all.
duane v: where there is hope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...SluQXK_Be8&
NR=1
I write software for a living, and I am not against H1-Bs.
I never said I was against H-1Bs.
However, I personally know people who have been out of work for two years now, because of the effects of outsourcing/offshoring, both of which trace their roots back to the H-1B visa program.
American's are being put out of work, supposedly because we don't have the "skills" that only H-1B visa candidates have.
I never said I was against H-1Bs.
your discussion is reminding my husband of the Basque sheep herders in E. Oregon.
because of the effects of outsourcing/offshoring, both of which trace their roots back to the H-1B visa program.
H-1Bs come here to work, and they have the inside track on permanent residence and citizenship if they want it. they are not in any way an incentive to send jobs overseas.
Reefer Madness if you got em.
On TCM.
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I'm looking at Corrente and in just a glance or two
because i'm a Junkie, of course i ahve to respond. and what else did you see? my posts? no. of course not. or Xan's, or Leah's, or Shy's. that's the fucking problem with you people (you obsessive primary bs types) you fall for the SCLM narrative of the moment, again and again and you miss the bigger fucking picture that make the diff in elelctions, again and again, as dems lose and we all lose.
for fuck's sake: no one cares. not about Corrente, or Eschaton, nor any of it. 99% of dem voters are making up their minds accoring to GOTV efforts, neighbors and friends and family, and the SCLM. *WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING TO CHANGE THAT????1!!!1???"
I'm so sick and fucking tired of Virtural Village games. it's pathetic. it's clear to me: most "liberal" and "progressives" want ME and Chinese masters. if you didn't, you'd be doing, that is *doing* and not bitching, about that. wake up. or go to sleep and wake up tomorrow and do something with real voters like me, tomorrow. gn't for real.
I write software for a living, and I am not against H1-Bs.
Me too, and neither am I.
I learned some tech stuff from being around them, and they learned how to be sharply critical of others around me.
H-1Bs come here to work, and they have the inside track on permanent residence and citizenship if they want it. they are not in any way an incentive to send jobs overseas.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Not in my experience. Many visa holders come here to be trained by the companies that employ them. Once the visa expires, they go back to the country they come from, and manage groups of people doing what they did here in the US.
DNC Chair Doctor Howard "Call Me Edgy" Dean Buys Special 48-Star Flags For Denver Convention.
"The states of Michigan and Florida are unknown to us," said Dean.
Barack Obama is the nominee. From right now let's make sure he takes the oath. - MP
Lord Democratic Party Boss, thank god you have come. you know some infidels in West Virginia & Kentucky still have the audacity as to want to vote, should we silence them on your Glorious Pronouncement of what is needed?
intellectual property. if it's intellectual, is it really property?
there's no way to put a fucking fence up around it...
or fuck's sake: no one cares. not about Corrente, or Eschaton, nor any of it. 99% of dem voters are making up their minds accoring to GOTV efforts, neighbors and friends and family, and the SCLM. *WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING TO CHANGE THAT????1!!!1???"
No prob.
They really dig Whiskey Fire.
In addition, your candidate sucks.
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Reefer Madness if you got em.
sob. I don't. Watching such would just make me sob harder, and drink more. 
ErinPDX
Looks good in Oregon.
fokowi, haven't given in to despair yet..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=s...feature=related
Howie Gothere
Fuck West Virginia. And I mean that in a time honored good way.
In fact the scenario I described, is how the company I work for, has staffed offices in India, Malaysia, China, Bulgaria, and Romania.
In response more than 10,000 people in the US, and 2000+ in Europe have lost their jobs as a direct result.
Guess what I sailed in on?
Echidne
I was guessing a gossamer wing and love, pure love.
I was wrong?
Guess what I sailed in on?
Echidne |
I saw that Kitten Immigrant Video.
should we silence them on your Glorious Pronouncement of what is needed?
no, it's the Oregon voters who will silence "Bugs!" and his ilk.
Once the visa expires, they go back to the country they come from, and manage groups of people doing what they did here in the US.
Absent the veneer of restraint over sexism with gusto, classism and racism, depending.
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Once the visa expires, they go back to the country they come from, and manage groups of people doing what they did here in the US.
Thats true too. But some of them do stay and contribute to this country. And some of those that go back home take with them contacts here. I work for a relatively small company that does business globally, local contacts are invaluable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...h?
v=wPbj6Lz1enA
Fuck West Virginia. And I mean that in a time honored good way. -MP
what if we equally fuck Illinois and count them out then what? Democracy? without american idol? ... preposterous.
Absent the veneer of restraint over sexism with gusto, classism and racism, depending.
Maybe, I have not had the opportunity to visit the countries in question.
I also have spoken with people who have gone through this "program", and to date, none of them wanted to stay in the US.
what if we equally fuck Illinois
West Virginia going against Illinois in a corporate exploitation cage match?
I'll buy a ticket.
Shoot the piano player.
Shotgun him.
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Thats true too. But some of them do stay and contribute to this country. And some of those that go back home take with them contacts here. I work for a relatively small company that does business globally, local contacts are invaluable.
The Old Man From Scene 24
That may be, but I work for a company that has contributed significantly to the unemployment rate in the IT industry. Which to be fair, isn't limited to my employer only.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A...h?
v=ApxnAr6pRt0
going horizontal. tomorrow will most likely begin another day of wondering where the
And on that note, I must away to my slumber.
Job hunting begins anew tomorrow.
"I also have spoken with people who have gone through this "program", and to date, none of them wanted to stay in the US."
This has taken place in the last eight years?
This has taken place in the last eight years?
EkCenTriK
It has accelerated in the past 8 years.
you know some infidels in West Virginia & Kentucky still have the audacity as to want to vote
And they are going to vote, and their votes will choose Delegates according to rules established before most of us ever heard of Barrack Hussien Obama.
And guess what? after everyone's voted, Obama will have a majority of the pledged delegates, a majority of the super delegates and a majority of the popular vote.
He is the Democratic Party's Nominee for President of the United States, get used to it.
I'm not sure why you're upset when the blog you're defending has the very thing you're saying is lame.
and what else did you see? my posts? no.
Um, well, yes. Now that you bring it up. I saw you thought the parody Red State Upstate (done by some folks in my area) was funded by Republicans.
I was trying to not have a laugh about that. I can't get through 15 seconds if their schtick without guffawing. (You thought they were real?)
And I saw one photo of some beautiful iris.
But there are also many, many posts here that aren't about bloggers. Don't get riled because I pointed out something that was true, okay?
Maybe I should skip this but...
.. that's the fucking problem with you people (you obsessive primary bs types) you fall for the SCLM narrative of the moment, again and again and you miss the bigger fucking picture that make the diff in elelctions, again and again, as dems lose and we all lose.
The profound irony here is that you should be ranting this stuff at Hillary Clinton and her team. That's where it matters. If you want to start smaller, start at the people on your site who whine about other bloggers. They're not just random posters.
Thanks a million.
Xan, maybe you are just on a sabbatical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=K...feature=related
Some guys simply want to return to the country of origin where wimmens are still under their thumb. Interns and residents come to mind, who are beside themselves having a female doctor look them in the eye and tell them what to do, not to mention a female nurse.
Good riddance.
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should we silence them on your Glorious Pronouncement of what is needed?
What, if a candiate drops out they just cancel your primary? Leave the polling places barren, unstaffed and locked?
You'll have a primary just as you did in 04, 00, 96, etc. Of course nobody gave a rat's ass what the 4.09 dozen people who showed up in those earlier years did because there was no contest at all by that point.
By the time the primary calendar got to me the herd had been thinned considerably, and my personal choice had just dropped out anyway. That did not constitute disenfranchisement for chrissakes. I was still free to vote any damn way I wanted, as are you. All this "let our voices be hearrrrd" whining from the late-calendar states seems a little weird, if not unseemly. If you want to be "heard" on a regular basis get active in restructuring the whole primary system.
IA and NH wouldn't be able to pull the blackmail BS they did if more people did the kind of boring, non-sexy work CD was talking about in the boring, non-presidential, non-sexy years.
Texas (Yes I live here)
Massive active sinkhole. News folks say people are giving tours.
Did I say I was in Texas?
Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
WASHINGTON (AP) - Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday.
A teen who has been depressed at some point in the past year is more than twice as likely to have used marijuana as teens who have not reported being depressed - 25 percent compared with 12 percent, said the report by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
"Marijuana is a more consequential substance of abuse than our culture has treated it in the last 20 years," said John Walters, director of the office. "This is not just youthful experimentation that they'll get over as we used to think in the past."
Smoking marijuana can lead to more serious problems, Walters said in an interview.
Oops..Red State Update.
I can provide a Nashville Scene article 'n' everything.
night
That may be, but I work for a company that has contributed significantly to the unemployment rate in the IT industry. Which to be fair, isn't limited to my employer only.
Well I've always been against sending jobs over seas, I'm advocating for smart people to come here to work, and preferably, stay.
In my experience truly good programmers are hard to come by...there's a huge difference between someone who knows how to program and someone who is good at it. If we can get them from other countries to come here and if some of the m stay its a good thing.
I just want the Dems to stop trying to teabag the South this election.
Obama should campaign heavily in the "Solid South".
IA and NH wouldn't be able to pull the blackmail BS they did if more people did the kind of boring, non-sexy work CD was talking about in the boring, non-presidential, non-sexy years.
Xan
true, i watched the DNC subcommittee meetings on that very topic - cspan - and it was a sleeper. loved it.
what did we get out here? Nevada to represent "the west." ha ha ha
For example, using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent, the report said. And teens who smoke pot at least once a month over a yearlong period are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than nonusers, it said.
"Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday."
Okay. You lost me with "according to a White House report".
What's John Walters been smoking? Wingnut welfare checkstubs?
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bed time for me
nite all
Experts who have worked with children say there's nothing harmless about marijuana.
"I've seen many, many kids' lives negatively impacted and taken off track because of marijuana," said Elizabeth Stanley-Salazar, director of adolescent services for Phoenix House treatment centers in California. "It's somewhat Russian roulette. There are so many factors, emotional, psychological, biological. You can't predict the experimentation and how it will impact a kid."
I just want the Dems to stop trying to teabag the South this election.
Obama should campaign heavily in the "Solid South".
If they don't do better then in 2004, I'm going to be furious. The Dem headquarters was in a remote area and you had to go there to get signs, we hardly saw Kerry, at one fundraiser done by a local bigtime singer/songwriter - he simply failed to show, and it was frustrating as hell.
Barackstar comes to Oregon today:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/elect...obamavisit2008/
Marijuana report on Cspan right now. Dr. Drew Pinsky says in his experience with kids the 'fun' effects of marijuana start wearing off after the third time and the dangerous effects, the effects that amplify and cause depression, start with the 4th or 4th smoking. He says we need to quit normalizing and stop denying the dangerous mental health effects of marijuana.
you know some infidels in West Virginia & Kentucky still have the audacity as to want to vote
I don't recall seeing anyone suggest they shouldn't vote.
The comment you're responding to is simply an acknowledgement of mathematical probabilities.
Even if Clinton wins 80% of all the remaining primaries, and 50% of remaining superdelegates, Obama will still win in the delegate count.
Bruce Mirken, communications director for the Marijuana Policy Project, an organization that advocates the decriminalization of marijuana, called the study "an absolutely dishonest report, deliberately confusing correlation with causation."
"This very week the British government's official scientific advisers on illegal drugs issued a report saying they are 'unconvinced that there is a causal relationship between the use of cannabis and any affective disorder,' such as depression, he said.
Gravatar"Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday."
Wow. I had a lot of fun getting high, to be totally honest. I had no idea it could have led to being a statistic on White House Reports.
Guess what I sailed in on?
Echidne
I was guessing a gossamer wing and love, pure love.
I was wrong?
No, you were sort of right.
Nutroots' mentors and icons--Berkeley's Code Pink Cellulite Broads--pull out all the stops, hex Marine recruiters with "witchcraft"....
Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday.
I love the way they phrase these things so as to attribute cause and effect in the way that results in the moralistic bombast they desire.
How about the possibility that kids--or people of any age, but you can't have the "What About The Children, Won't Somebody Please Think About The Chiiiiildren" screed without this restriction-- who are more depressed already are more likely to use mood-altering substances?
I mean, d'uh.
that said, I emphasized to my own son the research which shows that brain development and formation continues through the teens and early 20s, suggesting that regular or heavy use of substances like THC or alcohol was very unwise for physiological reasons.
But this "study" is just Reefer Madness 08. Yeah, let's put kids who smoke pot in jail instead, that'll do wonders to improve their later lives and cure them of reasons to be depressed.
Let's take this opportunity to get rid of these stupid Confederate lines of battle.
And I'm a Virginian. I want to see "Southerners" support a black candidate for President.
Fucking isolate the wig wearing Trent Lott constituents.
"suggesting that regular or heavy use of substances like THC or alcohol was very unwise for physiological reasons.
But this "study" is just Reefer Madness 08."
You take a good approach. The real problem with the "Reefer Madness" attitude is their zest may very well mask good research and good data that might actually be critical.
MP i'm with you.
show all of their asses for good
sure enough, having no pot is leading me to go make another drink. brb.
MP i'm with you.
show all of their asses for good
ErinPDX
I actually think he can win the Southern bloc.
John Walters, White House Drug Control Policy Officer, on Cspan says the research shows girls are particularly harmed by the ill effects of marijuana.
miranda in sex in the city. I really liked her when she was in that movie where the highschool kid builds and atomic bomb.
MP:
Messiah will sweep the South like a broom...
No, you were sort of right.
"Alone and mirrored clear in love's deep river"
A phrase from Seamus Heaney.
Messiah will beat the South like a drum...
Messiah will sweep the South like a broom...
Lubyanka
No. But they are hurting badly from listening to the man from Crawford.
Walters says young people go out of their way to lie and cover up their marijuana use and parents must be vigilant.
Messiah will reap the South like wheat...
I don't recall seeing anyone suggest they shouldn't vote.
The comment you're responding to is simply an acknowledgement of mathematical probabilities.
Even if Clinton wins 80% of all the remaining primaries, and 50% of remaining superdelegates, Obama will still win in the delegate count.
Seraphiel
I'm in florida.
I doubt that blogs are the way to learn how people will vote in November. There's too much self-selection, so that now Corrente is all Clinton and Kos is Obama-land and so on. People won't hear the stuff they need to hear when surrounded by only those they agree with.
I am not now nor have I ever been a communist. I am also not a Stalinist nor a Fascist.
among other states, McCain will be spending beaucoup time in MI and FL
Walter's says in some metropolitan areas age of marijuana initiation goes as low as age 10.
"People won't hear the stuff they need to hear when surrounded by only those they agree with"
That has been discussed in terms of both blogs and the internet in general. Cultural change. But then consider how narrow a newspaper or a network newscast can be.
The drug control policy office analyzed about a dozen studies looking at marijuana use, including research by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.
Overall, marijuana use among teens has decreased 25 percent since 2001, down to about 2.3 million kids who used pot at least once a month, the drug control office said.
While the drop is encouraging, Walters appealed to parents to recognize signs of possible drug use and depression.
"It's not something you look the other way about when your teen starts appearing careless about their grooming, withdrawing from the family, losing interest in daily activities," Walters said. "Find out what's wrong."
I doubt that blogs are the way to learn how people will vote in November.
That's absurd. People will vote as my blog tells them.
I actually think he can win the Southern bloc.
MP
I agree. The "solid (r) South" is not remotely a place where everybody, or 60-70-80 percent numbers, vote Republican. It's more like 55 percent, which is "solid" by modern electoral standards but really very weak when you look at it closely.
The sort of heavy campaigning in the South that T4 and MP and Erin are talking about could not only swing that 5 percent of existing voters but change the whole equation by upping registrations and tapping the long-time non-voters, which is by far the biggest bloc in the country.
Get even 15 percent of that group to sign up, then keep up the GOTV to get say 8-10 percent actually out in November, and you indeed--dare I say it? --rule the world.
"That's absurd. People will vote as my blog tells them.
Thers "
And that is? (pencil and paper in hand)
You could get pretty high just standing next to a tv showing Reefer Madness, with all the smoke they keep wasting with incessant puffing. Don't they know you have to hold it in to really ruin your lungs?
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That's absurd. People will vote as my blog tells them.
Only the Bacon Brigade and we know from our careful polling that it's too small and too drunk in whisky to make a difference.
All this moaning over little mary jane, but bacon is the true scourge of society.
http://xkcd.com/418/
God is the genius of Man.
You could get pretty high just standing next to a tv showing Reefer Madness
[rushes down hall to turn set to TCM, breathes deeply]
[fails to detect promised effect. Returns morosely to drink.]
Barack Obama is a cultural interloper and I disapprove of his candidacy.
John Walters, White House Drug Control Policy Officer, on Cspan says the baby boomer generation has the highest rates of alcohol and drug abuse in their 50's and 60's. He says with the baby boomer generation substance abuse became culturally acceptable and a mark of independence. He says this spirit ends up as a kind of denial that destoys families.
"He says this spirit ends up as a kind of denial that destoys families."
WTF?
And that is? (pencil and paper in hand)
Free love & humptiness.
This John Walters guy sounds like Harry J. Anslinger on acid....
"He says this spirit ends up as a kind of denial that destoys families."
It's wingnuttese. Everything is caused by liberals, and all liberal ideas are against something called "family", which is the actual living creature that the society is for, except that the members of that family don't count.
"Free love & humptiness."
See, that would have saved Hillary.
On the other hand, maybe not so good for her when I think about it.
Walters says movies like Animal House have done great cultural destruction.
(He's really saying this shit.)
WTF?
EkCenTriK
yeah, you gotta wonder what brings an anti-pot troll onto a liberal blog at 2 in the fucking morning to drop turds?
Could it be that he has been...smoking pot and is beset with guilt? At not bringing enough for everybody, for starters?
It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
I've never tried pot. Or anything else in that category. I've got a 24/7 party going on in my brain without any help at all.
Echidne, I was thinking about how meaningless the statement is. What does it really means. It probably rolled off the tongue well. But does it have any actual functional meaning. Which is what I have noticed the wingnut seems to specialize in.