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GravatarMittfuck = W 2008
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Gravatar At the end of the day, you need delegates to win. A strategy to win delegates seems like a smart strategy.

John Madden is now covering politics?


GravatarMissed it by that much.


GravatarMore coffee, Atrios?


GravatarSo, Tom Cruise sounds just as goofy as any stupid fundie.

Nothing to see here. Move along.


GravatarMittfuck = W 2008
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QuentinCompson



The MSM have to settle for Mitt.

They wanted Macaca Allen


GravatarThis is only good news for Dennis Kucinich.


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John Madden is now covering politics?




Gravatarhttp://romneyisafraud.blogspot.com/

new post up


GravatarBongo!

CATS!
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Gravatarhttp://romneyisafraud.blogspot.com/

new post up
portia


"Fraudo"

I like that!


GravatarIf Thers and I ever divorce, it will be over his insistence on listening to sports radio: there is no stupider form of discourse on the planet.

And I am *not* heartened that political reporters appear to be adopting it.


GravatarSo, Tom Cruise sounds just as goofy as any stupid fundie.

Nothing to see here. Move along.


What you are seeing in that clip is his practice phase before he becomes the antichrist. You 'll be happy you saw this someday.


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01.19.08 - 1:21 pm | #
In a time tailor-made for progressive ideas, when the conservative
brand is almost entirely trashed, we have two centrist candidates
running to lead the party.

Why should Progressivism require a prostrate Republican party
to be effective? We really do have to find a way to beat them even when
they are on their feet.







GravatarDon't all the candidates have delegate strategies?


GravatarRomney may have delegates, but Rom the Spaceknight has: superhuman strength; extreme durability; flight and the ability to travel through space via backpack rockets and to breathe in any atmosphere, including space.


GravatarMitt winning anything depresses the heck out of me. One thing I think I've noticed.
Working around the hyper, Type A MSNBC crew seems to have rubbed off on Timmeh.


GravatarWhat you are seeing in that clip is his practice phase before he becomes the antichrist. You 'll be happy you saw this someday.
Marcellina


If I was ever in the same room with him and he tried to do that staring thing, I'd just kick his ass. You can't stare if you're unconscious and bleeding.


GravatarSo, Tom Cruise sounds just as goofy as any stupid fundie.




Never, never saw what the big deal was about him.


Gravatarof course the press narrative matters more, and they focus upon it. the candidates have the same priorities, according to where they spend most of their time, money and how their policy seems formed.


Gravatarhow various outcomes impact press narratives that the press is somehow powerless to control

c.f. Greenwald today on Joe Klein


GravatarIf Thers and I ever divorce, it will be over his insistence on listening to sports radio: there is no stupider form of discourse on the planet.

And I am *not* heartened that political reporters appear to be adopting it.
Molly Ivors


So who do you think the Jets will draft?


GravatarSo it's barely 10 am on the west coast, and there's already a "winner" in the Nevada caucuses?

Who the fuck goes to a caucus before 10 am on a Saturday morning?

Can we shitcan this whole fucking caucus bullshit now?


GravatarIf Thers and I ever divorce, it will be over his insistence on listening to sports radio: there is no stupider form of discourse on the planet.

And I am *not* heartened that political reporters appear to be adopting it.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:24 pm | #



I love sports radio. It's truly the voice of the people. You get people from all across the political and economic spectrum talking together, and, if they don't agree on anything else, they at least agree the Cowboys SUCK! (well in Philly anyway).


GravatarTop Gun was the prototype for W's "package parade" in the flight suit.


GravatarWho the fuck goes to a caucus before 10 am on a Saturday morning?

There's a lull at the tables I guess.


GravatarFrom below:


So Nevada's over already? Isn't it only like 10AM there? Or is Romney the only rethug really running there?
Barbarism Begins at Home

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I hate when the "news" shows start calling primaries, elections, etc. hours before they're over.

That's always aggravated the shit out of me, for some reason.


Gravatarsports radio: there is no stupider form of discourse on the planet

I think the broad political discourse is more stupid than sports radio talk.


GravatarThats what this election is missing! A scientologist candidate!


GravatarWho the fuck goes to a caucus before 10 am on a Saturday morning?

Perfect Stepford Mormons.


GravatarTop Gun was the prototype for W's "package parade" in the flight suit.
plantsman


The scenes between Cruise and Kilmer are sooooo gai!


GravatarSaw McCain last night on C-Span and could have sworn that he walks with a shuffle. Did not notice that before...he must have some illness (in addition to a huge red splotch of skin on his right cheek near the hairline.


GravatarTom Cruise will be a Republican presidential candidate in about 12 years. Maybe sooner.


GravatarThere are @ 500 Democratic Nevada caucus sites,
and there were 100 GOP ones.


GravatarIf Thers and I ever divorce, it will be over his insistence on listening to sports radio: there is no stupider form of discourse on the planet.

if i ever divoce my blogmates, it will be because the men there recently mocked scrapbooking. i wanted to write a long and scathing post about the leisure activities many men seem to find worthy, like pr0n and sports radio, but i refrained.


GravatarI said a while ago that Mitt Romney would be the nominee.

It does seem like a smart strategy.


GravatarThe LDS mafia votes early! They would never miss a day of work, it could cost them a planet!


GravatarSaw McCain last night on C-Span and could have sworn that he walks with a shuffle. Did not notice that before...he must have some illness (in addition to a huge red splotch of skin on his right cheek near the hairline.
Simple Mind


I have a buddy who works for a neurologist.

Her boss says McCain is in the first stages of Alzheimer's.


GravatarWho the fuck goes to a caucus before 10 am on a Saturday morning?

Can we shitcan this whole fucking caucus bullshit now?
dave™© | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:27 pm | #



Well, the Mittster's got a 57%-13% lead with 0% of precincts reporting- so obviously it's over!

numbers per cnn.com about 2 minutes ago.


GravatarCall-in shows might be different; I am speaking solely of sports commentary.


GravatarMcCain was nearly weeping in a clip I heard of him saying how much he regrets the out-of-control spending by the federal government.*

*Money for permanent war and torture not regrettable and not refundable.


GravatarThats what this election is missing! A scientologist candidate!


They have teh ideas! /obama
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GravatarTom Cruise will be a Republican presidential candidate in about 12 years. Maybe sooner.
Marcellina


Let's see....he should be on his fifth or sixth marraige by then.


GravatarMen loves sports radio talk *because* it's stupid.


Gravatarif i ever divoce my blogmates, it will be because the men there recently mocked scrapbooking.

(small voice)

I scrapbook sometimes.


GravatarHer boss says McCain is in the first stages of Alzheimer's.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | 01.19.08 - 1:30 pm | #


Oh hell, so am I, and it hasn't slowed me down any.


GravatarAnd yet, Keith came out of sports radio....


GravatarIs Bill O'Reilly a Scientologist?

A new post by me.


GravatarNo precincts in a caucus vote


GravatarYeah, I've noticed that the process of actually picking up delegates is totally forgotten in the media blitz.

Contrast this with what happens on election night in November, when wrangling for electoral college votes is the only focus, with the popular vote numbers relegated to a footnote.


GravatarOf course the Mittster won Nevada. There are so many mormons in that state you can get a blowjob from "Moroni Pete" while pulling slots.


GravatarTom Cruise will be a Republican presidential candidate in about 12 years.

He can run in a primary against a former athlete.


GravatarCaucusing is a very interactive form of democracy, akin to town meetings. Wanting to get rid of them is rather undemocratic...


GravatarThis squirrely goof on MSNBC just repeated the lie about Hillary listing Raygun among her favorite presidents.

GE is a den of bastards.
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GravatarWell McCain is old, it's a punishing schedule, he has injuries, he's had cancer, and he's 1/8 rodent.


GravatarBill Clinton wants caucuses Obama might win shut down!


Gravatarif i ever divoce my blogmates, it will be because the men there recently mocked scrapbooking. i wanted to write a long and scathing post about the leisure activities many men seem to find worthy, like pr0n and sports radio, but i refrained.
chicago dyke, solitary


I actually had someone call me an elitist and insinuate I was a racist (the person doesn't post here anymore) because one of my hobbies is genealogy.


GravatarTom Cruise will be a Republican presidential candidate in about 12 years. Maybe sooner.

He won't be eligible since his Thetans weren't born on Earth.


GravatarWell, when we have a Scientologist candidate, he can help us overcome all this Earthling vs. Alien partisan sniping.


GravatarMy Dad had senile dementia and he began walking (shuffling) just like McCain did last night before it really got going.


GravatarNo precincts in a caucus vote
Simple Mind | 01.19.08 - 1:33 pm | #



Beats me. I was just going by what the website said. We don't have these caucus things where I live.


GravatarNTodd will caucus with you behind the tastee freeze.


GravatarI actually had someone call me an elitist and insinuate I was a racist (the person doesn't post here anymore) because one of my hobbies is genealogy.

That's pretty fucked up.


Gravatar If Thers and I ever divorce, it will be over his insistence on listening to sports radio: there is no stupider form of discourse on the planet.

Long time listener, first time caller, I just wanted to say that, yeah, megadittoes, you guys are right on the money with that...


GravatarIs Bill O'Reilly a Scientologist?

A new post by me.
The Kenosha Kid


That post has me wondering now. Someone needs to ask him directly.

And tell Keith!


GravatarRomney has the lesser states sewn up, it seems. All that money spent in Wyoming for the four delegates was his first step to victory! And isn't losing Nevada a blow to McCain, since it's practically his backyard?

Huckabee winning SC would definitely be a blow to McCain, but Romney's win in Nevada will keep him in, spending Tagg's inheritance.


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Tom Cruise will be a Republican presidential candidate in about 12 years.


Nah. He'll be one with Xenu by then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu


GravatarBut in addition to nuclear warheads, GE Brings Good Things to Life !


GravatarFalwell Jr. is blowing McCain on teevee.

Falwell explaining that since being called an agent of intolerance McCain begged his forgiveness so it's all good.

Tweety loves it.


GravatarHe won't be eligible since his Thetans weren't born on Earth.

I don't say this often, but I'm happy that I have no idea what you are talking about, other than it's something scientological.


GravatarTom Cruise: "If you don't vote for me, my lawyers will sue you"


GravatarI actually had someone call me an elitist and insinuate I was a racist (the person doesn't post here anymore) because one of my hobbies is genealogy.

That's pretty fucked up.
NTodd, OB-GYN


This particular person was pretty fucked up.


GravatarWell McCain is old, it's a punishing schedule, he has injuries, he's had cancer, and he's 1/8 rodent.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:34 pm | #


I think he has long surpassed the life expectancy of the squirrel portion of his genetic make-up ...


GravatarTom Cruise: "If you don't vote for me, my lawyers will sue you"
Gomez


You're being glib.


GravatarI am Xenu, and I approve this message.


GravatarThe Christians are just as goofy.


GravatarNTodd, don't you have a P0rn scrapbook?


GravatarI heard on NPR this morning that caucuses and primaries are not winner take all, so Barack Obama can pick up some delegates in New York, for example. Is that true for both parties?


GravatarAnd yet, Keith came out of sports radio....

A fact that never ceases to amaze me.


GravatarDo dead Mormons who become gods of planets rule the planet that the Thetans come from?


GravatarI don't say this often, but I'm happy that I have no idea what you are talking about, other than it's something scientological.
Marcellina


They're like bits of dead aliens trapped inside your mind, influencing your behaviour.


GravatarI thought NY had a Demo primary on Feb. 5.


GravatarDo dead Mormons who become gods of planets rule the planet that the Thetans come from?
puppethead


They have to beat the Thetans in a steel cage match first.


GravatarMy favorite sports talk radio host of all time was Tony Bruno.


GravatarA Scientologist vs Mormon debate. I'd pay to watch that.


GravatarI don't know - Obama can indeed split the vote in NY and NJ, but I read that some of the states Rudy is targeting are winner take all.


GravatarI thought NY had a Demo primary on Feb. 5.
plantsman


I know NJ's is on Feb. 5


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Well McCain is old, it's a punishing schedule, he has injuries, he's had cancer, and he's 1/8 rodent.


His ancestor?

Giant Rodent Found; Big as a Bull
http://news.nationalgeographic.c...odent-pictures/

January 16, 2008—An illustration (top) and sculpture flesh out the fossilized skull of the largest rodent ever found. (Read full story.)

The South American "rat" lived two to four million years ago and weighed about 2,200 pounds (1,000 kilograms), based on an analysis of its 21-inch-long (53-centimeter-long) skull, a new study says.

The rodent may have used its bulk and fearsome teeth to fend off attacks from saber-toothed cats and giant meat-eating birds, the researchers added.

Though found in a cliff in Uruguay, the animal lived in lowland rain forests close to river deltas or estuaries, where it feasted on fruit and aquatic plants, said the study, published in the journal Procedings of the Royal Society: B.


GravatarThey're like bits of dead aliens trapped inside your mind, influencing your behaviour.
Arkenor in 2008


See souls, guardian angels....

No different.


GravatarI think he has long surpassed the life expectancy of the squirrel portion of his genetic make-up ...
Brooklyn Girl, sane again | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:36 pm | #




GravatarRudy, "Targeting States" Heh.


GravatarA fact that never ceases to amaze me.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:37 pm | #


Lots of smart people are passionate about sports ... it's a great outlet, it changes every few months along with the seasons, and it's ultimately meaningless.


GravatarFrom two threads down--I hope for the best possible change--but I will settle for any Dem who will appoint rational Supreme Court Justices. With ReThug nominees on the court we will be on greased slide to changes in interpretation of the Constitution we probably can't even imagine.

Good-bye, New Deal.

Good-bye, Progressive Era legislation.

Good-bye, Bill of Rights and habeas.

Hello......


GravatarNothing racist about genealogy, unless one specifically does it to prove one is more worthy due to bloodlines.

I have done quite a bit of research on my own family tree.


GravatarOf course there are precincts in a caucus vote. That's what one of the lawsuits is about. An 'at-large' precinct is a new critter afaik.

Precincts elect delegates to county, county to district, district to state, in every caucus I've been in.
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GravatarI'm so old I can remember when you didn't have to belong to a secret mystical society to know how to make the emoticons -- they were just clickable at the bottom of Haloscan.

God, I'm decrepit....


GravatarA Scientologist vs Mormon debate. I'd pay to watch that.
Arkenor in 2008


I would like the horse manure and rotten tomatoes concession for that.


GravatarApparently Rudy is going to try to run footage of "Cloverfield" in his ads.


GravatarBut in addition to nuclear warheads, GE Brings Good Things to Life!

No doubt in dark, hilltop castles somewhere in deepest Pennsylvania.


GravatarAnd Sports has stats to memorize.


GravatarI've liked every Mormon I've ever met


GravatarI'm hoping find something nefarious in my family bloodline.


GravatarAnd isn't losing Nevada a blow to McCain, since it's practically his backyard?

According to that linked Washington Post article, Republican candidates other than Mittens didn't spend time campaigning in Nevada "because the Republican National Committee is penalizing the state for moving up its primary to compete with other early-voting states."


GravatarI am flabbergasted. There are two young men in black suits and white shirts coming to my door. Gotta be Mormon missionaries, but one of them is black.

I really want to confirm it, but not bad enough to answer the door.

On the other hand, I could ask them if they had heard that Mitt Romney is a scientologist...


GravatarMormons are likeable enough.


GravatarThis just in. Rudy flies plane into Mormon Tabernacle Church. Rescuers find his passport and Judith Nathan a block away.


GravatarThe party sets whether votes are winner take all or proportional.

Right?

Dems, iirc from an '04 CNN article I linked to, have proportional plus superdelegates.

Why is this so difficult for the MCM to tell us?


GravatarTom Cruise running for president: "You don't know the economy. I've studied the economy, I know..."

"You don't know Iraq. I've studied Iraq, I know..."

and

"stop looking at my wife. i'm not gay, say that again and i'll sue."


GravatarOh, it's not the obsession with sports I question, actually--though I think it's kind of pointless, myself, and not really a metaphor for, well, anything.

It's the specific verbal form of sports commentary that gets to me. They have to fill a lot of time when there's nothing to say, so they say almost nothing the viewer/listener does not already know.

It's a field made of completely of conventional wisdom.


GravatarNothing racist about genealogy, unless one specifically does it to prove one is more worthy due to bloodlines.

I have done quite a bit of research on my own family tree.
Marcellina

I started it because I was curious.

But I found out that on my dad's side of the family, his father's family all died of arterio-sclerotic heart disease (hardening of the arteries).

I mentioned it, casually, to my family doctor when I went for my yearly physical and he did an ekg (?) on me right in the office.

Told me to take two aspirins a day.


GravatarI've liked every Mormon I've ever met

Have you met Mitt? Is that 1-Hour Martinizing?


GravatarAn 'at-large' precinct is a new critter afaik.

Perhaps for caucuses, but the notion of at-large is nothing new, being used in state amendment conventions, the Electoral College, etc.


GravatarI'm so old I can remember when you didn't have to belong to a secret mystical society to know how to make the emoticons -- they were just clickable at the bottom of Haloscan.

God, I'm decrepit....
steve simels | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:40 pm | #


I remember them, too ...

But you seem to have unlocked the mystery of the LOL!


GravatarI hear Hitler was easy to like.


GravatarMcCain: i agree Romney is the candidate of change but Obama does not understand radical islamic extremists

Gibson: i thought he was one

Romney: ok you all hate me because i am a scientologist but McCain when you are in a debate with Obama you will get killed assuming you don't fall asleep
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GravatarAccording to that linked Washington Post article, Republican candidates other than Mittens didn't spend time campaigning in Nevada "because the Republican National Committee is penalizing the state for moving up its primary to compete with other early-voting states."
Ebenezer Le Page | 01.19.08 - 1:41 pm | #



So, do ANY of the fucking primaries actually count anymore?


GravatarIt's a field made of completely of conventional wisdom.
Molly Ivors


I think third down conversions will be the key to the caucus.


GravatarI've liked every Mormon I've ever met

Me too. All of them were friendly and helpful (without being fake) and never once pushed their religion on me.


Gravatar"stop looking at my wife. i'm not gay, say that again and i'll sue."
chicago dyke, solitary


A high school friend of his was quoted in the Enquirer (yeah, I know) that Cruise was homophobic.

My daughter said "Well, most closeted gays are, aren't they?"


GravatarMormon's are fine, so long as they are not in the Presidency. The Quakers were bad enough, and the Methodists...whew!


GravatarI've never knowingly met a Mormon, but I've had all too many dealings with the Church of Scientology.

You can argue that all religions have odd beliefs. Sure. I talk to rocks. But Scientology is fucked up and evil.


GravatarIt's the specific verbal form of sports commentary that gets to me. They have to fill a lot of time when there's nothing to say, so they say almost nothing the viewer/listener does not already know.

It's a field made of completely of conventional wisdom.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:42 pm | #


I think that's also one of the reasons people like it ... if they're proven right, it makes them feel knowledgeable about something ... if wrong, nobody really gives a shit.


GravatarIt was when GWPDA went crazy with :rocket: that the emoticons box vanished, though she will deny that.


GravatarMormons are likeable enough.
Culture of TrÜth




Damn, you're s sly one.


GravatarSnow falling now, and it will be fucking ironic if an 'act of God' keeps the Huckabee theocrats from the polls in upstate SC, because they're too busy stocking up on bread, milk and toilet paper.

The demographic divide in SC has been so obvious from where McCain and Huckabee have campaigned. And Huck Country goes batshit when it snows.


GravatarI have a feeling that Willard would be an obnoxious idiot no matter what religion he practiced.


GravatarSo, do ANY of the fucking primaries actually count anymore?

Only Vermont's.


GravatarAngels do not go to Palmyra NY to meet stoners like John Smith.


GravatarIt was when GWPDA went crazy with :rocket: that the emoticons box vanished, though she will deny that.

Yep. Who knew her to produce the Verdun of emoticon battles?


GravatarJoseph Smith.

And he was a drunk, not a stoner.


GravatarSo, do ANY of the fucking primaries actually count anymore?

Only Vermont's.
NTodd, OB-GYN | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:45 pm | #



I'd actually be OK with that. If they elect Bernie Sanders to Congress, they at least have a clue.


GravatarSo, do ANY of the fucking primaries actually count anymore?

Well, yes, the two little pissant states that the national parties kowtow to do actually count.

The other states, who basically say "why should two pissant states decide who we get to vote for?" are told to fuck off and die.

This is a truly bizarre system.


GravatarWhat progress! Tom Cruise, America's first Gay President. (Apologies to Lincoln.)


GravatarI think that if Hillary can establish the running game she will wear Obama out.


GravatarMormons are likeable enough.

that made me do a double take. HA!


GravatarIt's the specific verbal form of sports commentary that gets to me. They have to fill a lot of time when there's nothing to say, so they say almost nothing the viewer/listener does not already know.


ESPN
Sports Center
Rome is Burning
Around the Horn
Pardon the Interruption
Endless hours of different people saying the same thing... then repeat.
Once the hosts/guests achieve celebrity status it doesn't matter what they say as long as they're someone you recognize.

Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly...


GravatarIt showed a lively side I found quite charming.


Gravatarhttp://wiki.answers.com/Q/ What_i...rimary_schedule

What is the 2008 democratic primary schedule?

Iowa (January 3rd)
New Hampshire (January 8th)
Michigan (January 15th)* no delegates
Nevada (January 19th)
South Carolina (January 26th)
Florida (January 29th)* no delegates

Super Tuesday
Alabama (February 5th), Alaska (February 5th), Arizona (February 5th), Arkansas (February 5th), California (February 5th), Colorado (February 5th), Connecticut (February 5th), Delaware (February 5th), Georgia (February 5th), Idaho (February 5th), Illinois (February 5th), Kansas (February 5th), Massachusetts (February 5th), Minnesota (February 5th) , Missouri (February 5th), New Jersey (February 5th), New Mexico (February 5th)
New York (February 5th), North Dakota (February 5th) , Oklahoma (February 5th), Tennessee (February 5th), Utah (February 5th) , Democrats Abroad (February 5th)


GravatarAngels do not go to Palmyra NY to meet stoners like John Smith.

They go for the pierogies.


GravatarI'd actually be OK with that. If they elect Bernie Sanders to Congress, they at least have a clue.

We only vote for him to keep the pinko bastard from running for Governor.


GravatarObama has been struggling to locate his fastball.


GravatarDid Obama really say that the GOP has been the party of ideas for the last 10-15 years?

Did he not mention they were all bad ideas?


GravatarI think third down conversions will be the key to the caucus.

Huckabee's secondary stinks in snow.


GravatarWho knew her to produce the Verdun of emoticon battles?

So when do we begin working on the V2 :rocket:?


GravatarWhether Edwards can play today will be a gametime decision.


GravatarContrast this with what happens on election night in November, when wrangling for electoral college votes is the only focus, with the popular vote numbers relegated to a footnote.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 01.19.08 - 1:33 pm | #


Not always. There was a chance of Kerry winning electoral and not total, so the press was trying out some, "how horrible" lines.


GravatarIt was when GWPDA went crazy with :rocket: that the emoticons box vanished, though she will deny that.


I recall the great 12 hours of rocket wars that happened after :rocket: was turned on, and ended about 12 seconds after Atrios discovered what the impact of that action was in the comments section when he woke up the next morning.

Those were good times.


GravatarI've been harping on this since Iowa.

"Winning" is relatively meaningless.

Clinton and Obama tied in NH, literally, though you'd never know it.


GravatarI think that if Hillary can establish the running game she will wear Obama out.

But he can go long and work the weak secondary...


Gravatar if wrong, nobody really gives a shit.
Brooklyn Girl


but there are people who take sports really seriously, and really personally, as if it had meaning about them and their lives, as opposed to the lives of the athletes, teams, coaches, whatever.

sure: if you're a sportwriter, it's your job. everyone else is just an onlooker. nothing wrong with that, but i swear, the worst fans were always the ones who'd never played a minute of competitive sport in their lives. it can get creepy, the projection and association that some fans apply at delusional levels.


GravatarSay what you will about Bush - he has all the weapons.


GravatarDid he not mention they were all bad ideas?

No. Very clever, I thought.


GravatarRome is Burning
Around the Horn
Pardon the Interruption


All three modelled on political talk, curiously: they're Crossfire or Hardball for sport.


GravatarWhether Edwards can play today will be a gametime decision.
Gomez | 01.19.08 - 1:48 pm | #


He's a hard worker - first to the gym - with a blue collar attitude.
But we have to take this one game at a time.


Gravatar(Apologies to Lincoln.)

My ex once played Joshua Speed in a play.


GravatarI'm hoping find something nefarious in my family bloodline.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:41 pm | #


My grandather on my mom's side was a flimflam man in the 20s.

Travelling salesman who sold bogus products -- like Hershley's Chocolate (the wrapper looked identical to the real thing) -- before leaving town one step ahead of the sherriff.

Pretty cool, huh? Especially for a Russian jew who just fell off the turnip truck, as it were....


GravatarBill Clinton was never a stay at home defenseman.


GravatarGiuliani will be really fresh in Florida after his six bye weeks.


GravatarRon Paul came in second.



GravatarLouisiana (February 9th), Nebraska (February 9th), Washington (February 9th), Virgin Islands (February 9th)

Maine (February 10th)
Maryland (February 12th), Virginia (February 12th)

Hawaii (February 19th), Wisconsin (February 19th)
Ohio (March 4th), Rhode Island (March 4th), Texas (March 4th), Vermont (March 4th)

Wyoming (March 8th)
American Samoa (March 10th)
Mississippi (March 11th)

District of Columbia (April 3rd)
Pennsylvania (April 22nd)
Guam (May 3rd)
Indiana (May 6th), North Carolina (May 6th)
West Virginia (May 13th)
Kentucky (May 20th), Oregon (May 20th)
Montana (June 3rd), South Dakota (June 3rd)
Puerto Rico (June 7th)


GravatarRon Paul came in second in Nevada?

Oh god, that makes me happy!


GravatarI recall the great 12 hours of rocket wars that happened after :rocket: was turned on, and ended about 12 seconds after Atrios discovered what the impact of that action was in the comments section when he woke up the next morning.

Yeah, ADH, like a bunch of kids who'd never have toys. It was hilarious.


GravatarOh, talked to BFF today. Her SO (the one with malaria) is having too much contact with the CDC.

So far they've told him.

1. That he shouldn't be leaving the country, anyway, and particularly shouldn't be going to Honduras;
2. That they want him to take a "terminal dose" of the medication, and that they can't discuss what that entails with him (he should ask his doctor);
3. That he needs to have blood drawn for them, and they cannot tell him what they are going to do with it.

Fun, huh?


Gravatar the worst fans were always the ones who'd never played a minute of competitive sport in their lives. it can get creepy, the projection and association that some fans apply at delusional levels.

You mean like the worst fans of war are those who never were in one: Bush Cheney Wolfowitz, Trent Lott, Kristol, etc.?


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but there are people who take sports really seriously, and really personally, as if it had meaning about them and their lives, as opposed to the lives of the athletes, teams, coaches, whatever.


Like the people who say they'll cry when Favre retires...


GravatarMormons are likeable enough.




No one who believes women are second class citizens is likeable in my book.


GravatarIf it were really found that Lincoln and Joshua had a thing going on, and that a Queer freed the slaves, it prolly wouldn't make any difference.


GravatarAll three modelled on political talk, curiously: they're Crossfire or Hardball for sport.

I thought they were modeled on the original Olbermann-Patrick show, SportsCenter.


GravatarIf we promise not to use more than one :rocket: per post, do you think we could have them back one more time?


GravatarI hear Hitler was easy to like.
leibniz, monadΩ


maybe, but he was also rumored to have a bit of a temper ...


GravatarGuiliani has great ball skills.


GravatarSports reporters are far more objective than political reporters. And they don't like to take a lot of shit from athletes or coaches.

And they don't go to cocktail parties with them.


GravatarPerhaps for caucuses, but the notion of at-large is nothing new

For caucuses, I seems to me like a square circle.

At-large, of course, was/is ever popular with Southern segs and others needing to suppress large minorities.
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GravatarTonic water, V. Quinine.


GravatarI took a tour of the Mormon Tabernacle once. The guides were friendly and non-proselytizing, though they did tell me about the "Miracle of the Seagulls" .. easily as nutso as anything in Scientology.


Gravatarunless one specifically does it to prove one is more worthy due to bloodlines.


mom got both hers and my dad's family history done in sicily...apparantly my dad's family is an old peasant family and my mom's was aristo - she likes to rub it in, LOL


Gravatarit can get creepy, the projection and association that some fans apply at delusional levels.
chicago dyke, solitary | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:49 pm | #


Oh god, yeah.

I can't stand it when fans are chanting "We're Number One!!"

No you're not, assholes -- the team is. You're just the fat guys who buy the overpriced tickets....


GravatarFor a liberal, Hitler was pretty obnoxious.


GravatarDoes anybody here practice Jew-Jitsu?


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GravatarI hear Hitler was easy to like.
leibniz, monadΩ

maybe, but he was also rumored to have a bit of a temper ...


You mean like that mormon candidate in the Staples store?


GravatarDid he not mention they were all bad ideas?
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:48 pm


No, he did not at the time. Since then, I don't know.

Some say he was trying to make sure Reagan Democrats would vote for him. Others say he was dissing all the activists of the 60's and 70's--including civil rights, economic rights, women's rights, gay rights, environmentalists. Some of us older DFH's were aghast, as were some younger ones, but not all.


GravatarI'm hoping find something nefarious in my family bloodline.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:41 pm | #


so far, i've discovered gamblers, prostitutes, communists, atheists, and agitators in mine. i'm not sure how far back i want to keep looking...i'm afraid i'll find some aristocrat at the source of it all. they usually spoil the gene pool.


GravatarPennsylvania (April 22nd)

jawbone | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:50 pm | #



Boy, I can't wait to cast my vote. I'm sure nothing will have been decided by then.


GravatarMike Lupica on ESPN's sports reporters clearly envies political pundits and cable news commentators. He makes a political comment just about every week. He wants to be KO.


Gravatar1. That he shouldn't be leaving the country, anyway, and particularly shouldn't be going to Honduras

I recall taking malaria prophilaxis while I was in Honduras, and then having my blood unusable by a blood bank for like 12 months after I was off the regimine.


GravatarYou mean like that mormon candidate in the Staples store, "Easy" button in hand?


GravatarRon Paul second in Nevada? I heard that on MSNBC? Attanut!
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GravatarAnd they don't go to cocktail parties with them.

Well, they get to see them naked in the locker room. Is that better?


GravatarDoes anybody here practice Jew-Jitsu?


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spork_incident | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:54 pm | #


[sings to the tune of "Did You Ever See a Dream Walking"]

Did you ever see a Jew...Jitsu?

Well, I did..




GravatarMitt has as much of a chance in the GE as Ryan Leaf


GravatarSports reporters are far more objective than political reporters. And they don't like to take a lot of shit from athletes or coaches.

I don't know about that. A lot of locker room reporters cover for the players and management. In baseball, many, many of the locker room reporters knew about steroid and HGH use, and virtually none of them has said a word. They also know about the private lives of the athletes, including other criminal behavior, and they say and write nothing about it.


GravatarOh, I forgot the big one activism of the 60's and 70's--anti-Vietnam War activists, the sexual revolution. Long hair? Rock'n'roll?

All those things Reagan was against.


GravatarOh god, yeah.

I can't stand it when fans are chanting "We're Number One!!"

No you're not, assholes -- the team is. You're just the fat guys who buy the overpriced tickets....
steve simels | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:53 pm | #


Oh, come on. Can't people just have a little fun, and not take things so seriously? If people want to believe they're "part of the team", and paint their faces, and yell and scream on Sunday, I don't see the harm.


GravatarLegal Prostitution, legal "Gaming", Ron Paul.
Yeah, kit fits


GravatarI can't stand it when fans are chanting "We're Number One!!"

No you're not, assholes -- the team is. You're just the fat guys who buy the overpriced tickets....


that is VERY Haha funny


Gravatar*Gomez watching game film*


GravatarDoes anybody here practice Jew-Jitsu?

Aside from simels? And he only does it in the privacy of his own home.


GravatarDid You Ever See a Dream Walking - I liked that song when they used it in Pennies From Heaven, the Steve Martin movie


Gravatari'm afraid i'll find some aristocrat at the source of it all. they usually spoil the gene pool.
chicago dyke, solitary | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:54 pm | #


Some upper class Brit twit, no doubt...


GravatarI missed the :rocket: wars. I came in the next day and all around was covert reference to :rocket: and how pissed Dad was that there was a hole burned in the roof.


GravatarIt makes sense that there would be a lot of moralistic libertarians in Nevada, actually.


GravatarWalterNeff, martinized:

So what did you think of Cloverfield?

Me, not much.....


GravatarI recall taking malaria prophilaxis while I was in Honduras, and then having my blood unusable by a blood bank for like 12 months after I was off the regimine.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Interesting. She's going to do the damn prophylaxis before they go back. Finally.


GravatarSome upper class Brit twit, no doubt...

Or imagined upper class Connecticut twit.

Like the loathesome harpy Barbara Bush.


Gravatar...and of course simels himself beat me to the joke. An elitist chardonnay to you, sir.


Gravatarsteve: 3.5 out of 5


Gravatar how pissed Dad was that there was a hole burned in the roof.




Like that turn of phrase.


GravatarMolly -- do you have nine games going? I'm still up for one, if anyone wants to play.


GravatarHave you never been mellow?


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GravatarNo one who believes women are second class citizens is likeable in my book.
Terry C -


/moves closer to terry c/

indeed.


GravatarDid You Ever See a Dream Walking - I liked that song when they used it in Pennies From Heaven, the Steve Martin movie

Wasn't that song also used in The Singing Detective?


GravatarInteresting. She's going to do the damn prophylaxis before they go back. Finally.

It's the way to go. I didn't contract malaria while I was down there, but then again I was stationed on the central plateau, not down near the seacoast where you're more likely to contract malaria.

But then the military pumps you full of antibodies and stuff before they let you get on the plane to tropical climates.


GravatarSo what did you think of Cloverfield?

Me, not much.....
steve simels


I'll be seeing it in a few hours.

I'll post a review.


GravatarHave you never been mellow?
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spork_incident


I have; strangely, I've never been to me.


GravatarAll peasants in my family tree. Although I did find a few interesting ways to die violently.


GravatarThe Singing Detective and Pennies from Heaven both started out as tv shows by Dennis Potter, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some overlap.


GravatarOh, I forgot the big one activism of the 60's and 70's--anti-Vietnam War activists, the sexual revolution. Long hair? Rock'n'roll?

All those things Reagan was against.
jawbone

come on, Jawbone - you know they were challenging conventional wisdom - like going around Congressional approval to secretly fund the Contras.

No that's a party of "ideas"!!!!!


GravatarDoes anybody here practice Jew-Jitsu?

I don't. Jew?


GravatarHillary: "They were who we thought they were"


GravatarI have the Gambon Singing Detective on DVD


Gravatarlol:

Texas Candidate Alters Photo in Mailer
Saturday January 19, 2008 10:04 am
http://ap.google.com/article/ ALe...Kis9uAD8U8MCR02

HOUSTON (AP) — A mailer from a congressional candidate's campaign contains a photo of his head attached to an image of a different body that makes him look thinner.

The photo is presented as a true image of Dean Hrbacek, a Republican former mayor of Sugar Land. In reality, it is a computerized composite of Hrbacek's face and someone else's slimmer figure, in suit and tie, from neck to knee.

Hrbacek, a tax lawyer and accountant, did not immediately return a call to his campaign headquarters Friday by The Associated Press. He is seeking the nomination to run against Democratic U.S. Rep. Nick Lampson.

Campaign manager Scott Broschart acknowledged to The Houston Chronicle that the image is a fake. Hrbacek has been so busy that he had no time to pose for a full-length photo for the mailing, Broschart said.

"He may appreciate that we took a few pounds off him," Broschart said. "I think the voters ... are more concerned with the issues as opposed to pretty photo shoots."


Gravatar
Some upper class Brit twit, no doubt...


Such fine teeth they have!

Giuliani/Huckabee '08!


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GravatarKucinich: "Convention?"


GravatarAll peasants in my family tree. Although I did find a few interesting ways to die violently.


Marcellina |


Homepage |
01.19.08 - 2:01 pm | #

10th generation Californian here.  Many interesting characters in my family too.


GravatarDone, V.


GravatarI asked a Mormon *fuck-buddy* if women were segregated at the Ward. He had great difficulty admitting they were, but finally got it out, sort of.


Gravatar"He may appreciate that we took a few pounds off him," Broschart said. "I think the voters ... are more concerned with the issues as opposed to pretty photo shoots."

If that were indeed the case, why did you do it, asstard?

How fucking stupid does he think his candidate's potential constituents are?


GravatarCampaign manager Scott Broschart acknowledged to The Houston Chronicle that the image is a fake. Hrbacek has been so busy that he had no time to pose for a full-length photo for the mailing, Broschart said.

"He may appreciate that we took a few pounds off him," Broschart said. "I think the voters ... are more concerned with the issues as opposed to pretty photo shoots."
nona | 01.19.08 - 2:03 pm | #


The GOP really has some top-tier candidates this year, huh?


GravatarOf course mine was a sweeping statement, but if you listen to sports radio they are constantly attacking athletes, whereas the DC media never attacks politicians with the same passion.

Sports reporters though are probably reluctant to write on something like steriod use without real proof, or do much investigation.

Well, they get to see them naked in the locker room. Is that better?
Molly Ivors


Plus there is that. If Tweety saw McCain naked would he fluff him so much?


GravatarThe Singing Detective and Pennies from Heaven both started out as tv shows by Dennis Potter, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some overlap.

I had forgotten that.


GravatarHow fucking stupid does he think his candidate's potential constituents are?


Apprentice to Darth Holden |



01.19.08 - 2:05 pm | #

Very stupid...Sugarland is, after all, the home of the Bug Killer.


GravatarFrom Spaceweather.com:
When the sun sets tonight, go outside and look east. The Moon and Mars are having a beautiful close encounter all weekend long. The best night to look is Saturday when the distance between the pair shrinks to less than 2 degrees. Campfire-red Mars so close to the silvery Moon is a sight wonderful to behold. Visit http://spaceweather.com for sky maps and photos.


GravatarHow fucking stupid does he think his candidate's potential constituents are?

Wait a second...this is DeLay's old district, right?

I withdraw that question.


GravatarI have the Gambon Singing Detective on DVD

I haven't seen it in a long time.

That was Michael Gambon?


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Gravatarhttp://www.thegreenpapers.com/ De...tions.html#Winn

From Primary/Caucus/Convention Glossary:

In the PROPORTIONAL type of presidential preference primary, the district delegates are apportioned among the top vote-getters in each (usually congressional, but occasionally state legislative) district while the at-large delegates are apportioned among the top vote-getters statewide by the percentage of the vote received above a certain threshold (most often 15 percent: a figure actually mandated by the rules of the Democratic Party since 1992). This is the system used by the vast majority of the states holding presidential primaries in the Democratic Party; the Republican party (where WINNER-TAKE-ALL primaries are still permitted) uses it in far fewer states than the Democrats and, in the vast majority of these, the GOP usually started using the PROPORTIONAL type only because Democrat-dominated State Legislatures of the mid-to-late 1970's passed laws forcing both parties to use this type of presidential preference primary. The major difference between the two parties' PROPORTIONAL primaries is in the thresholds used by the Republicans, which can vary from as much as 20 percent or more to as little as virtually 0 percent. (as noted below, the Democrats are currently required by party rules to use a 15 percent threshold in all their PROPORTIONAL primaries).

In 1996, however, no Democratic primary was of the LOOPHOLE type. The GOP, meanwhile, has no national party rules against the use of the LOOPHOLE type and a handful of states did use it for the choosing of delegates to the Republican National Convention in 1996.


Gravatardid you notice -- it's 'sugarland'; isnt that tom delay country...


GravatarThe Republicans are lacking in the skill players of years past.

The Democrats have better team speed.


GravatarFollowing the release of a letter by Jewish leaders speaking out against the smears on Obama's religion...

Shouldn't that be schmeers?


GravatarI asked a Mormon *fuck-buddy* if women were segregated at the Ward. He had great difficulty admitting they were, but finally got it out, sort of.
plantsman


you'll get another one soon. i had a mormon coworker for a while, and they shipped him an 'acceptable' bride in from the land of the golden tablets. to comfort him and keep him from temptations like mingling with nonmormons. he made my gaydar sing, and my heart had a little moment of real pity for him when he told me. one day he was alone, and the next "the church has found a bride for you, marry now."

i'll never understand giving someone "holy" that kind of power over you.


GravatarRudy is always the "big winner" even when Duncan Hunter beats him


GravatarProportional voting in Dem primaries--which is why Edwards can stay in the race.


GravatarPlus there is that. If Tweety saw McCain naked would he fluff him so much?

Someone inform the brain bleach factory that I am about to place a gargantuan order with them.


GravatarIf I don't get up from this chair now I won't until tomorrow.

Hasta luego.


Gravatarfar too much Bible study going on around me here at The Spotted Cow


GravatarVogel als Prophet von Schumann


GravatarIf Tweety saw McCain naked would he fluff him so much?

You're a sick man, CoT.


I like that in a person.


GravatarIt's cheaper than getting your stomach stapled like Hucklebee.
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Gravataroops wrong window


GravatarFuture dinner protein units require roasting. Laters.


GravatarNo one who believes women are second class citizens is likeable in my book.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | 01.19.08 - 1:52 pm | #


Who asked you?


GravatarWe can't have a President named Mitt, until after we have one named Biff.


Gravatarjawbone | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 2:06 pm | #

Thanks.


Gravatarget me a sandwich


GravatarYou're a sick man, CoT.

I like that in a person.
Molly Ivors


I was never like this until Eschaton.


GravatarLee Cowan - NBC reporter traveling with Obama - that's the dumb fuck lying about Clinton and Raygun earlier.

I need killfile for tv, GE bastards.
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Gravatari think we should make all the candidates walk down the runway, under very bright light, for the next debate. they could be made to show us themselves in formalwear, afternoon casual, etc; we'll skip the swimsuits.

that would be different and people would pay attention. we could have it like american idol, and let people vote for the best dressed and most suave runway walk.


GravatarMagic Johnson doing ads for Hillary.

Obama needs to hit back with Mary Lou Retton.


GravatarI think that the game has passed McCain by.

He needs to get on with his life's work.


GravatarHeh. Interesting.
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I just got a scam mail telling me I should revoke my signature on a petition that I might have signed by mistake. (Wrong -- I've helped to get signatures.) It's a state amendment to require voter approval of changes to the counties' comprehensive land use plans -- they keep giving developers a pass and fucking things up even further.

There's nothing in postal regulations that would get me into trouble for writing "FUCK YOUUUUUU!" on it in magic marker and sending it back, is there?


GravatarFYI:


Three -- count 'em, three -- of the least flattering od photos of me ever taken can be found in the pages of the February/March 50th anniversary issue of Sound & Vision (AKA The Magazine Formerly Known as Stereo Review). The good news is that so far they haven't shown up in the on-line version, so if you want to have a cheap laugh at my expense you'll have to go to the newstand.


GravatarWhy would SC have two elections?

Wasteful.


GravatarMagic Johnson doing ads for Hillary.

Obama needs to hit back with Mary Lou Retton.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 2:14 pm | #


He's planning on having Larry Lessig challenge Magic to a duel.


GravatarMolly -- your turn.


GravatarI'm really thinking the first real salvo should be the press instead of political targets.


GravatarObama needs to hit back with Mary Lou Retton.

Peggy Fleming! Strike at the core of HRC's base!


GravatarObama's advisors are telling him he needs to stretch the field.

However, Obama opposes torture.


GravatarMagic Johnson doing ads for anyone with $$$.


GravatarAccording to projections based on entrance polls, ABC and NBC have declared former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney winner of the Nevada Republican caucuses.

Entrance polls. Why not just declare winners based on polling the night before the event?


GravatarI think that the game has passed McCain by.

He needs to get on with his life's work.
Gomez


He's harvested all his nuts for the winter.


GravatarSo where do I find scrabble in Facebook


GravatarI think that the game has passed McCain by.

He needs to get on with his life's work.


His life's work, it seems, was not being a navy pilot, or even being a senator.

It's feeding his insatiable ambition to be President. Not BEING President, mind you, but just feeding his insatiable ambition. With his honor, his integrity, his family, with anything that happens to be within arm's reach.


GravatarHillary has never done well every time she's made a trip into the red zone.


GravatarWhat's green and slides on ice? Peggy Phlegm.


GravatarToo late, V. Back to you.


GravatarI Mentioned It In The Starbucks This Morning Poll


Gravatar
I need killfile for tv, GE bastards.


Someone need to invent Selective Mute Control, so I can mute out only certain voices.

Bush would be on there permanently.


GravatarI understand that Obama is openly flirting with the Las Vegas showgirls and cocktail waitresses in order to sway their votes.

It's not fair, Obama, to use your seductive Hawaiian moves on these impressionable young ladies.


Gravatarql, I invited you to a gae a few days ago. Scroll down through your notifications and the link to download should be there.


GravatarVisit http://spaceweather.com for sky maps and photos.
plantsman | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 2:06 pm ~~~~~

Drat--we have clouds here.


GravatarCoT, are you on facebook? There's 3 damn pages of people with your name.


Gravatarso if you want to have a cheap laugh at my expense you'll have to go to the newstand.
steve simels |


Or you could Google simels and find this gem.

http://www.postmodern.com/~fi/pa.../images/ sr3.jpg


Gravatar
steve: 3.5 out of 5
WalterNeff, martinized | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 1:59 pm | #



Really? Wow...I'd barely give it a one.


Gravatarql, check your notifications, I have invited you to play your first game!

(And I'm pretty mediocre at it!)


GravatarSo where do I find scrabble in Facebook
qlª


Yay! I'll send you a thingy.


GravatarAccording to projections based on entrance polls, ABC and NBC have declared former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney winner of the Nevada Republican caucuses.

So much for letting the voters vote. That lasted what? A week?


GravatarOr you could Google simels and find this gem.

http://www.postmodern.com/~fi/pa...i/pa.../images/ sr3.jpg
Bullwinkle is a Dope | 01.19.08 - 2:20 pm | #


That's a glamor shot compared to the ones they're running in the mag.

I think the current editors hate me...


GravatarEdwards has failed to take the crowd out of the game.

That could come back to haunt him in the fourth quarter.


GravatarCommon racist theme:
Black men are buck studs that white women can't resist.

Funny how white men react when some of my male family members stand too close to their woman. We joke about it all of the time.


GravatarNoron just asked by Edwards isn't doing better. Spokeswoman , Kate Michelman, saying he has trouble breaking thru the celebrity coverage of Hill and Barack. Mentions delegate count--not so far behind.

As of now, Kate.

Good luck in Nevada, John!


GravatarThere were only 100 GOP caucus sites in NV, and the voting took place at 10 a.m. local time.


Gravatarql, You can also play simultaneous games with everybody else, natch.


GravatarNoron asked "why" Edwards not doing better.


GravatarRezko, who was part of Obama’s senatorial finance committee, also is accused of directing “at least one other individual” to donate money to Obama and then reimbursing that individual — in possible violation of federal election law.

A spokesman for U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald declined to comment.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/ pol...ma20web.article

Better to get this apparent bullshit out of the way now.
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GravatarOIC Marcellina has you covered, ql.


GravatarWell, send me a Scrabble "thingy" someone!


GravatarAs a former SCarolina resident much of what passes for political culture baffles me. & Repugs don't think Dems are moral enough to be in the same room with them, so they refuse to play together.
That said, parties pay for their own primaries, so there is no incentive to share.


GravatarObama made a mistake with that Reagan comment.

That's going to be bulletin board material in Hillary's locker room.


GravatarLime, I just this headline:

* Bill Clinton Surprises
MGM Grand Workers


GravatarWell, send me a Scrabble "thingy" someone!
plantsman


Are you on facebook? I didn't realize that!


GravatarEdwards has a different version of the DK problem:
people don't "like" him automatically.


Gravatarplantsman, join facebook and you can play with many of us.

Don't need to use your real name.


GravatarLarry Craig has always been good at wrapping up the ball carrier.


GravatarOn facebook. Whatcha need?


Gravatar* Bill Clinton Surprises
MGM Grand Workers
Culture of TrÜth


I'm afraid to ask what kind of surprise he may have pulled off.


GravatarCoT, are you on facebook? There's 3 damn pages of people with your name.
Molly Ivors


sadly no.

fat gambler Bill Bennett is on CNN to tell us "character matters."


GravatarHuckabee has always stressed the fundamentals.

That's going to serve him well as the season progresses.


GravatarFunny Stuff -
Candidate's photo puts his head on skinnier body
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/ POLI...=rss_topstories

Quote from article

"Republican political consultant Allen Blakemore of Houston, who has no client in the congressional race, said there's no law against the practice "other than the laws of gravity -- the negative effect on your polling numbers and popularity when you do such things."


Gravatarplantsman -- under your real name?


GravatarMany post-boomers are not too impressed with the 60s-70s either.


GravatarIn 1996, however, no Democratic primary was of the LOOPHOLE type.

Hellscum wouldn't let me post the explanation for the above.

Loopholed type primaries were where the voters could choose a candidate in the "Beauty Queen" part of the vote, but the actual selection for the state was made by elected delegates--who often ignored the voters' choices.


GravatarWhat's green and slides on ice? Peggy Phlegm.
Troutski | 01.19.08 - 2:18 pm | #




GravatarAs "plantsman752@comcast.net"


GravatarI've ignored this Facebook thingy but if it allows me to play Scrabble with people online, I may have to reconsider....


GravatarRon Paul currently in second.

Rudy Can't Fail! at 3%


This plays right into 9iu11iani's hands.


GravatarOn facebook. Whatcha need?

To find us somehow. Or help us find you. Perhaps send an e-mail to someone who's on.


GravatarKucinich is the type that runs better in space.


GravatarWhat generation one hails from is an accident of history, and a crappy way to judge people, imo.


Gravatarfat gambler Bill Bennett is on CNN to tell us "character matters."
Culture of TrÜth |


Are there casinos in South Carolina?


GravatarMany post-boomers are not too impressed with the 60s-70s either.
rootless-e | 01.19.08 - 2:28 pm | #


Those many post-boomers can go fuck themselves, not just Obama.

He lost me with that generation gap stuff, frankly....

Not so much because I'm the demographic he's dissing, but because it's fatuous crap....


GravatarWhat generation one hails from is an accident of history, and a crappy way to judge people, imo.
plantsman


Someone your age would say that.



GravatarHow sad is that? The only anti-war candidate with electoral success is a Republican.


GravatarA commenter at Atrios' link remarks that the MCM hates Romney.

What ever will the pearl clutchers do is it's Hillary v. Romney? Who will they hate the most?

Recent history says the Dem....


Gravatarfat gambler Bill Bennett is on CNN to tell us "character matters."

So a sanctimonious prick with no character other than bad to speak of is telling us we should ignore him.

Cool.


GravatarTo be fair, it does make sense to have Bill Bennett offering commentary on the Nevada caucuses. Especially the ones taking place in the casinos.


Gravatar
Obama made a mistake with that Reagan comment.


It seems that part of his strategy trying to appeal to disgruntled GOPers. Mister gospel tour candidate is quite the triangulator.


GravatarVideo Poker nearly destroyed South Carolina, as I recall from the Brill's Content days.


GravatarObama made a mistake with that Reagan comment.

That's going to be bulletin board material in Hillary's locker room.
Gomez


Obama lost me with the gay hating gospel singers.


GravatarWhat generation one hails from is an accident of history, and a crappy way to judge people, imo.
plantsman


I was born during Eisenhower's admin, which was the greatest evah.


GravatarI think that the problem with the oil lobby is that they've gone to the well once too often.


GravatarLet Obama appeal to Goopers, but make sure he governs like a Democrat!


GravatarAs was I. 1952.


Gravatar as I recall from the Brill's Content days.

Whatever became of Steven Brill and his website?


Gravatar
What ever will the pearl clutchers do is it's Hillary v. Romney? Who will they hate the most?

Recent history says the Dem....
jawbone |


Well, indeed, especially when it is a woman, and a Clinton to boot. But one would have to smile at least, at their plight - the Villagers were so hoping for McCain v. Obama.


GravatarNot so much because I'm the demographic he's dissing, but because it's fatuous crap....
steve simels | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 2:30 pm | #


Well pull your rainbow headband over your eyes then, and it may go away.

For a lot of people in Obama's generation, the 60s means irresponsible parents worrying about their self-fulfillment and abandoning their children. This is not an unusual view.


GravatarIt seems that part of his strategy trying to appeal to disgruntled GOPers. Mister gospel tour candidate is quite the triangulator.
Richard


He's seems to do better when he goes to his left.

Though he's more of a North-South runner.


GravatarLet Obama appeal to Goopers, but make sure he governs like a Democrat!
plantsman


The only things we have to go on are his words and his record, neither of which fills me with paroxyms of glee.


GravatarAppealing to goopers is for the fucking general election.

Obama is a premature compromiser.
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GravatarAs was I. 1952.

Erm, that would be during the Truman Administration.

Eisenhower took the oath of office in 1953.


GravatarThat's "paroxysms".

Miss Otis Regrets....


GravatarEdwards has a different version of the DK problem:
people don't "like" him automatically.
plantsman | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 2:24 pm


If that's correct, as if read it, that people don't like Edwards--why does he do so well on the GE polls matched against possible ReThug opponents? Now, it's hard to find those polls--they seem to be deep sixed by the MCM--but I've seen them reported on briefly, seen numbers.

How does that compute? Is the MCM telling us he's not "likeable"?


GravatarGee, rootless, got any tofu with those stereotypes?


GravatarLet Obama appeal to Goopers, but make sure he governs like a Democrat!
plantsman


He won't appeal to them. He's only kidding himself.


GravatarI'd sit Craig down and use Foley. Foley is more of a slot receiver.


GravatarFor a lot of people in Obama's generation, the 60s means irresponsible parents worrying about their self-fulfillment and abandoning their children. This is not an unusual view.

Huh?

That sounds more like the 80's to me.

The parents in the 60's were mostly "greatest generation" types.


GravatarWhat generation one hails from is an accident of history, and a crappy way to judge people, imo.
plantsman


Indeed. Similar to astrology, I would say. Where were the planets when you were born?


GravatarEasy, the vast majority of people hate the Republican candidates.


GravatarAlthough every now and then Craig can put one through the five hole.


GravatarIs the MCM telling us he's not "likeable"?

$400 haircut.


Gravatar

That sounds more like the 80's to me.

The parents in the 60's were mostly "greatest generation" types.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 01.19.08 - 2:35 pm | #


If you were born in 1945 and had kids in your 20s, that would be 1965 or so.


Gravatarjawbone,
They mean *they* don't like him, but of course you knew that.


Gravatari think we should make all the candidates walk down the runway, under very bright light, for the next debate. they could be made to show us themselves in formalwear, afternoon casual, etc; we'll skip the swimsuits.

that would be different and people would pay attention. we could have it like american idol, and let people vote for the best dressed and most suave runway walk.
chicago dyke, solitary


McCain, Thompson and Giuliani would all look like shit under those lights.

Romney would jump at the chance.

Very vain, that one.


GravatarEasy, the vast majority of people hate the Republican candidates.
plantsman


They can't raise money worth a shit this cycle, and I thought they were supposed to be good at that.


GravatarIs the MCM telling us he's not "likeable"?

Edwards is not plying the infantile twits of the MCM with booze and shrimp.

Therefore he is not "likeable".


GravatarJust voted for John Edwards.

What do I get?
.


GravatarLesley the Beard is shocked! that different unions representing very different working constituencies would actually support different Democratic candidates!


GravatarCNN better have some paramedics on hand--Bennett looks like a heart attack waiting to happen.


GravatarGomez- but where should they slot the tight end?


GravatarBush would be on there permanently.


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01.19.08 - 2:18 pm | #

And Craig Crawford. I cant stand to listen to him...we call him the "gasper".
Never had the chance to find out if his views are worthwhile, he's just too annoying to hear.


GravatarJust booked my room for EschaCon. Get on it, people!

Registration has been delayed by the untimely death of our computer geek's canine,but I expect it to be online soon.


GravatarFor a lot of people in Obama's generation, the 60s means irresponsible parents worrying about their self-fulfillment and abandoning their children. This is not an unusual view.




Bullshit.

I'm sick of the Boomer bashing.


GravatarOy.
Marcellina, your move


Gravatarhttp://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORL...n.ap/ index.html
TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- A teenager who posed as a wealthy playboy and went on an extravagant spending spree at a nightclub has been arrested after trying to skip out on his bill, police said Saturday.

The 16-year-old boy entered a hostess bar in Niiza City near Tokyo on Wednesday night and -- over the course of six hours -- ordered two bottles of Dom Perignon champagne as well as 60 glasses of whiskey, beer and cocktails, said local police officer Hitoshi Morohashi.

The boy also sang karaoke songs with several hostesses, Morohashi said.

When it was time to pay the bill, which had ballooned to $3,490, the boy told the staff he had no money, Morohashi said.

The staff called police, and the boy -- whose name was withheld because he is a minor -- was arrested on suspicion of fraud, Morohashi said.

Staff at the club were shocked to learn the boy's age because he seemed mature and experienced when ordering drinks and talking with hostesses, Morohashi said.

"That was a bit of a surprise," Morohashi said. "He dressed casually, but obviously he successfully gave them an impression of a rich young man."

Alcohol consumption is prohibited for those under 20 in Japan.


GravatarFor a lot of people in Obama's generation, the 60s means irresponsible parents worrying about their self-fulfillment and abandoning their children. This is not an unusual view.
rootless-e | 01.19.08 - 2:34 pm | #


Oh, puh-leeze. First of all, that's asinine. Second of all, that's not remotely what Obama was talking about (which was also asinine, but from a different angle).

In any case, generation gap generalizations are horseshit, by and large, as were Obama's about the 60s in particular.

It would be like me saying -- The Greatest Generation? Feh...just because those geezers beat Hitler and Tojo, we're supposed to comp their prescription drugs? I don't think so....


Gravatar
What do I get?


A kiss on the forehead and a cocktail of your choice.


GravatarGomez- but where should they slot the tight end?
tomdurk


I'd use him as a possession receiver.


GravatarRegistration has been delayed by the untimely death of our computer geek's canine,but I expect it to be online soon.
Molly Ivors


Is there going to be a registration fee for EschaCon? And how much?


GravatarWhat did you decide about the tree, or did you?


GravatarLesley the Beard is shocked! that different unions representing very different working constituencies would actually support different Democratic candidates!

Lesley admitted that unions exist?


GravatarAnd Craig Crawford. I cant stand to listen to him...we call him the "gasper".
Never had the chance to find out if his views are worthwhile, he's just too annoying to hear.


They're not.


GravatarIf you were born in 1945 and had kids in your 20s, that would be 1965 or so.

Which would mean that you were raised, basically, in the 50's, and would be a pre-baby boomer in outlook.


GravatarHoly shit, ql.

I'm up against a master.


GravatarLesley admitted that unions exist?
Ebenezer Le Page


Other than the unnatural union between his mouth & Bush's ass?


GravatarIs there going to be a registration fee for EschaCon? And how much?
Gummo


I was wondering about that, too.


GravatarFor a lot of people in Obama's generation, the 60s means irresponsible parents worrying about their self-fulfillment and abandoning their children.

And that was all the 1960's were about. The end.


GravatarThe parents in the 60's were mostly "greatest generation" types.


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01.19.08 - 2:35 pm | #

I was born in 1960. My parents were not "greatest generation" people. That was the group 10-15 years older than they.


GravatarI sent plantsman a friend invite.


GravatarThanky!


GravatarI can't find you on Facebook plantsman. Perhaps you can find me. My name is common, but I use my middle initial E.


GravatarI've ignored this Facebook thingy but if it allows me to play Scrabble with people online, I may have to reconsider....
Gummo


Resistance. Is. Futile.


GravatarIf you were born in 1945 and had kids in your 20s, that would be 1965 or so.

Which would mean that you were raised, basically, in the 50's, and would be a pre-baby boomer in outlook.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Let's see - my parents were born in 1925 and 1932, respectively.

I was born in 1952.


GravatarTo you, ql


GravatarBullshit.

I'm sick of the Boomer bashing.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | 01.19.08 - 2:39 pm | #


I don't get why people think that disagreeing with an idea means it is not widely held.

And people grow up with different experiences. Many of the people Obama's age grew up thinking their parents were part of an irresponsible me-generation. That seems pretty common, whether you like it or not.


GravatarWhat do I get?

.


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01.19.08 - 2:38 pm | #

we are petitioning for the return of :rocket: but you have to promise to be restrained in your usage of same.


GravatarFor a lot of people in Obama's generation, the 60s means irresponsible parents worrying about their self-fulfillment and abandoning their children.

And that was all the 1960's were about. The end.
MP


Sounds like Cal Thomas' assessment of Baby Boomers.


GravatarI'm not going to judge Bill Clinton.

But on the replay it looks like the ball came out.


GravatarAnd the thing is, the hippies were right about the food, and the war, and many other things. Children with goofy *Celestial* names was not a plus, but...


GravatarMolly, your turn


GravatarI don't get why people think that disagreeing with an idea means it is not widely held.



A lot of ERRONEOUS ideas are "widely held."


Gravatarwe are petitioning for the return of :rocket: but you have to promise to be restrained in your usage of same.

therealhellkitty


Wheeeeeeeeeeee!

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I promise!
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GravatarAnd people grow up with different experiences. Many of the people Obama's age grew up thinking their parents were part of an irresponsible me-generation. That seems pretty common, whether you like it or not.

Why we're even bothring to engage this defender of the Reagan-fluffer is beyond me to begin with.


GravatarMany of the people Obama's age grew up thinking their parents were part of an irresponsible me-generation. That seems pretty common, whether you like it or not.

From my experience, that doesn't hold true for people of Barack Obama's age whose parents were in the working and poor classes.


GravatarRegistration depends on what you want to do (how many social events), but we're offering a deal for the whole package: $85.

And trust me, we're just barely covering costs.


GravatarMany of the people Obama's age grew up thinking their parents were part of an irresponsible me-generation. That seems pretty common, whether you like it or not.
rootless-e | 01.19.08 - 2:42 pm | #


Good grief. Apparently, you get your sociological info from the lyrics to Guns N Roses songs...


GravatarWhy we're even bothring to engage this defender of the Reagan-fluffer is beyond me to begin with.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Have you not been around the last couple of days?

People have been twisting themselves into pretzels defending the Reagan-fluffer.


GravatarRegistration has been delayed by the untimely death of our computer geek's canine,but I expect it to be online soon.
Molly Ivors


and here I thought I was late. I've already booked my room.


GravatarI was born during Eisenhower's admin, which was the greatest evah.
MP


Louis St. Laurent, suckahs!


GravatarGeez, the reason I avoided Facebook before was because I didn't want to have " I AM NOT A PEDOPHILE tattooed in reverse across my forehead. Becoming friends is work!


Gravatarplantsman, now it should be easy to find me among V's friends, I'm the one in Austria.


GravatarAnn Lewis is not doing the Clinton campaign any favors.


GravatarGood grief. Apparently, you get your sociological info from the lyrics to Guns N Roses songs...
steve simels



Thank you.


GravatarRegistration depends on what you want to do (how many social events), but we're offering a deal for the whole package: $85.

And trust me, we're just barely covering costs.
Molly Ivors


No need to get defensive, it was a purely informational question. The last thing I want is for the folks who've worked so hard to make this event happen to take a financial bath because of it.


GravatarAnn Lewis is not doing the Clinton campaign any favors.
Culture of TrÜth



Barney Frank's sister, IIRC


GravatarIn any case, generation gap generalizations are horseshit, by and large, as were Obama's about the 60s in particular.

Maybe. But every generation believes some story about their parents.

It would be like me saying -- The Greatest Generation? Feh...just because those geezers beat Hitler and Tojo, we're supposed to comp their prescription drugs? I don't think so....


I'm not quite as old as you, but when I was 15 in 1972, I believed that the WWII generation was by and large a bunch of ignorant, racist, corporate serfs. I still kinda believe it.


GravatarPeople like Chelsea?


GravatarAnn Lewis is not doing the Clinton campaign any favors.
Culture of TrÜth


I hear she may get traded to Cleveland.


GravatarSorry, Gummo. Didn't mean to sound defensive. We're all a little horrified at how costs have risen.

When I tried to get a room for Thursday night, I found out how much of a deal we were getting on the rooms. Damn.


Gravatarback to you, ql


GravatarWhen I tried to get a room for Thursday night, I found out how much of a deal we were getting on the rooms. Damn.
Molly Ivors


Two-hundred-something, I bet.


GravatarI'm not quite as old as you, but when I was 15 in 1972, I believed that the WWII generation was by and large a bunch of ignorant, racist, corporate serfs. I still kinda believe it.
rootless-e


Oh, for fuck's sake.


GravatarA lot of ERRONEOUS ideas are "widely held."
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | 01.19.08 - 2:44 pm | #


Sure. They still motivate people.


GravatarTrouble with SC voting machines in Huck-leaning districts. The GOP couldn't run an homest election even if they wanted to.


GravatarHow is Ann Lewis, who is usually sharp as tack and very savvy, not doing Hillary's campaign any favors?

Also, what time do the Dem caucuses begine? Evening? I could only find that people can begin registering at 11:00am.


GravatarJust voted for John Edwards.

What do I get?
.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 01.19.08 - 2:38 pm | #


an Australian sheepskin


GravatarThey're not booing Hillary.

They're yelling Lou, Lou.


GravatarIs there anyone here born in, oh, say, 1940 (a number I just picked out of the air) ?

Actually, it's my friend who wants to know.


GravatarWhat did you decide about the tree, or did you?
plantsman


I'm waiting til about the second week of February to make sure of the temperatures. It was so funny just now plantsman, driving around North Central - everybody's old sheets covering up just about everything in sight.... As tho laundry day had exploded. And, not so funny, houses I swear their owners had walked away from - on 2nd Street & Marlette! Glendale & 5th Street! And one in Pyle Estates! Very very bad.


GravatarMolly -- they gave me the EschaCon rate for Thursday and Sunday. You just have to call and ask.

How do we invite plantsman to join the couple of groups of Atriots?


GravatarI still think Huck accepting the sleazy push-pollers' help is most un-Xian, and deserves further scrutiny.


GravatarBasically, it's Friday party, $35. Saturday panels, $30 (includes coffee, but not lunch). Saturday party, $10 (cash bar, but delightful entertainment). Sunday brunch, $30. So altogether it would be $105, but we;re gambling a bit that we'll have enough people to cover everything.


GravatarBarney Frank's sister, IIRC

Barney Frank was a guest on Scott Simon's show this morning. Simon did not bother to try to hide his contempt for Frank.


GravatarLouis St. Laurent, suckahs!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian


He was just a homey from Compton.


Gravatar
an Australian sheepskin
ErinPDX, orange-stained


Woooooohoooooooo!!!!


GravatarWhenever the media slams Bill Clinton the campaign should just give his latest popularity ratings.

The media hates him because Clinton gives them the respect they have earned.


GravatarScott Simon is a pretentious wanker.


GravatarPeople like Chelsea?

The neighborhood or the daughter of politicians?

If the latter, her hedge fund manager boss must like her, since he's give her so much time off to campaign with her mother.


GravatarAhhh, I was just watching tv and Ann Lewis was on talking implying the culinary union was using gangster tactics to prevent people from voting for Hillary....plus I just find her irritating. Your mileage may vary.


GravatarChaos, big turnouts at some Democratic sites
By J. Patrick Coolican · January 19, 2008 · 11:24 AM

From the scene at Parson Elementary School in northwest Las Vegas:

Sen. Steve Horsford—an Obama advocate—is here caucusing at Precinct 2044. The scene is confused, with long lines of people trying to sign in and determine which precinct is theirs. (Two precincts are caucusing at the school.)
At the other precinct, 2352, the demographic skews heavily toward older women, which is good for Clinton. These caucuses clearly aren’t starting at 11:30.
The Clinton campaign is highly visibile.
[The wife of Sun sports columnist Ron Kantowski just telephoned the office to say the scene at Mannion Middle School in Henderson is equally chaotic because of a large turnout. That one won’t start at 11:30 either.]


http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs...mocratic-sites/

So, start time is 11:30 local?


GravatarThe media hates him because Clinton gives them the respect they have earned.
Clindonista

Bobo says the Clenis is bad for Hillary


Gravatarher hedge fund manager boss must like her, since he's give her so much time off to campaign with her mother.

There is another intrerpretation to be considered.


Gravatartweets sayz the only reason chelsea got her job is cuz her dad fucked around on her mom...


GravatarV, I think the issue is that they're sold out and only have much pricier rooms for those nights.


GravatarBobo says the Clenis is bad for Hillary
bill


What he means, of course, is that he WISHES the Clenis was bad for Hillary.


GravatarJust voted for John Edwards.

What do I get?
.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian

The warm glow of knowing you are a true patriot and the thanks of a greatful nation. And knowing you will never be embarassed about your vote.


GravatarOK, caucuses began at 2:30pm EST.


GravatarScott Simon is not worthy of blowing Barney Frank, imo.


GravatarAlso, what time do the Dem caucuses begine? Evening? I could only find that people can begin registering at 11:00am

I read in an earlier thread that they should wrap up at approximately 5pm local time.


GravatarV, I think the issue is that they're sold out and only have much pricier rooms for those nights.
Molly Ivors


You can stay in our room (caveats provided in the game chat).


Gravatartweets sayz the only reason chelsea got her job is cuz her dad fucked around on her mom...


fokowi |


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01.19.08 - 2:53 pm | #

did he say it again? He had to back off of that comment the other day and issue an apology.


GravatarWhat he means, of course, is that he WISHES the Clenis was bad for Hillary.

Yeah, that is one of the things that drives the MCM nuts; that their wishes have nothing at all to do with reality when it comes to Bill, Hillary, or even Chelsea.


GravatarNico just had catnip for the first time.

She appears a little dazed.


GravatarAlls I know is that I don't want Jethrene Huckabee to get angry over any of this.


GravatarContempt for Barney Frank? One of the best minds around? Wow!


GravatarScott Simon is not worthy of blowing Barney Frank, imo.

I trust Barney has better taste.


Gravatartweets sayz the only reason chelsea got her job is cuz her dad fucked around on her mom...
fokowi


At least Chelsea doesn't fuck drunk on pool tables like some political daughters.


Gravatarfokowi, tell me please that's a joke, right? Right?


GravatarI for one will do my utmost best to not overuse the :rocket: symbol.


:rocket:

Damn!


GravatarIf you don't put a man on Barney Frank, he's gonna hurt you.


Gravatar
Good grief. Apparently, you get your sociological info from the lyrics to Guns N Roses songs...
steve simels | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 2:45 pm | #


Well, popular music is often a good hint about common beliefs, but I got it from Obama's book and from talking to people who are younger than me. I've heard everything from "my parents lived John Updike books" to "my parents were high all the time."


It's weird that you want to complain about generalization and then insist that your generalization is the definitive one.


Gravatari was being a smart ass, but the sad part is most folks wouldn't be surprised if that panty waste matthews actually did say that...


GravatarAnyone here ever have their blog hacked into?


Gravatar:rocket:



Damn!


bill |



01.19.08 - 2:57 pm | #

the sad thing is, I never got to see what the :rocket: actually looked like.


GravatarIf you don't put a man on Barney Frank, he's gonna hurt you.
Gomez




Gravatar Ann Lewis was on talking implying the culinary union was using gangster tactics to prevent people from voting for Hillary

It's in the water. dday, covering the campaign for Hullabaloo, wrote this the other day:

[Former president Clinton] also said that he claimed he was in his hotel in Vegas last night, and a bunch of members of the Culinary Worker's union came up to him and said that they weren't going to listen to their union and they would caucus for Hillary. Which is fine. Then, he claimed, a shift supervisor or someone in a position of authority came up and said, "If you do that I'm going to change your schedule so you can't be there to caucus tomorrow." It's a pretty amazing allegation (a union boss is going to threaten and intimidate the voting rights of workers in front of a former President?), and Todd from MyDD and myself have some calls in to Hillary's press people to get some clarification. There's no way to really independently verify it, but it strains credibility to believe that it went down the way President Clinton said.


GravatarFrank's assessment of Mitt Romney alone is so apt, it should be carved into a Federal Building. You can Google for it.


Gravatar
Just voted for John Edwards.

What do I get?


Your parting gift on today's show is a month's supply of Rice-A-Roni.


Gravatari was being a smart ass, but the sad part is most folks wouldn't be surprised if that panty waste matthews actually did say that...
fokowi


He's probably so pissed off that he was forced to apologize that new and better sexist outrages should be pouring out of his mouth any day now....


GravatarAnd on that note, off to Gomorrah on the Hudson for the traditional quaffing of the elitist chardonnay with my satanic commie buds.

Wang chung in my absence!!!


GravatarTiger was just running around the house like a maniac and all of a sudden he started limping and couldn't walk - so I started thinking, ok, now I have drop everything and go to the vet - when I realized somehow he got his collar wrapped around his front leg.

He's fine but miffed.


GravatarOh, CoT; that's awful, but that's great!


GravatarThere's no way to really independently verify it, but it strains credibility to believe that it went down the way President Clinton said.
Ebenezer Le Page


They'd have to know that saying something like that in front of Bill Fucking Clinton would be completely idiotic.


GravatarOne look at Huckabee's wife, and I'm immediately channeling Lithgow in "Garp".


GravatarThere is another intrerpretation to be considered.

That the hedge fund manager supports Hillary Clinton for president? I think that is true, as he has donated a lot of money to her campaigns.


GravatarReThyg NH phone jammer is on with Noron.

Allen Raymond, "How to Throw an Election."

Says dirty tricks work very well. Phone calls can be tracked.


Gravatar3,408 votes wins the state of Nevada for Romney? 3 thousand? 3? With about half the votes in he'll win the thing with 6000 votes? That can't be right.


GravatarNow he wants to play again.

silly cat.


GravatarThat he doesn't much care for Chelsea or her work so having her gone is no great loss.


GravatarIs Tiger new to wearing a collar? Are you training him to walk on a leash?


Gravatar when I realized somehow he got his collar wrapped around his front leg.

Condi has that problem, too.


GravatarI think Chelsea could kick Jenna's ass while reading her crappy book.


GravatarHe's fine but miffed.


Culture of TrÜth |


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01.19.08 - 2:59 pm | #

its when they run like rabbits (back feet up near the ears) that accidents like that can happen. They look so chagrined!  I always ignore them for a while until they restore their equanimity.


Gravatarif what that panty waste matthews offered up the other day about hillary constituted an apology, i'll go blow simels...

again.


GravatarAnyone here ever have their blog hacked into?
Marcellina


Many years ago. What's up?


Gravatar3,408 votes wins the state of Nevada for Romney?

This year, the GOP is not playing in the same league as the democrats.


GravatarThere is a new thread.


Gravatarif what that panty waste matthews offered up the other day about hillary constituted an apology, i'll go blow simels...

It was one of those apologies that doesn't include "I'm sorry" or "I apologize".


GravatarNo, I have idea how it happened.

I put a leash on him once when he was little and again later. Both times it was a total freakout and once nearly ended in a choking incident.

He's feeling frisky without his collar now!!


GravatarThnx for clarifying the Tweety thing. He hasn't made attacks on Chelsea--yet.

That would be so far beyond the pale, he might get put on medical leave.


GravatarArk, I might e-mail you. Is your addy on your homepage?


GravatarAndrea Mitchell says 50,000 voters - was that the Dem primary?


GravatarI was going to try to train my kitten to walk on a leash, but I didn't get around to it in time. Seems to take patience--first the collar, and long to get the cat used to that. Then putting a light leash on the cat indoor. Again, long acclimation period. It would have been fun to achieve, however....


GravatarArk, I might e-mail you. Is your addy on your homepage?
Marcellina


I don't think it is. Avoids complications. You can mail me at ntlworld.com


GravatarCoT -- cats should REALLY have break-away collars, or ones with a piece of elastic in them so they can slip out in case it gets caught on something.

The solid kind are highly dangerous.


GravatarHe *has* a breakway collar!

Anyway, he never goes outside and he doesn't usually wear one, but it was also too loose.

For now, he'll be collar free.


Gravatarif what that panty waste matthews offered up the other day about hillary constituted an apology, i'll go blow simels...

again.
fokow


I wasn't watching, but the next morning Scarborough and Mika pretty much retracted the whole pseudo-apology on his behalf. (According to folks here.)


GravatarVoting machines broken in parts of South Carolina. Affects only GOP.

whiny assholes.


GravatarI wasn't watching, but the next morning Scarborough and Mika pretty much retracted the whole pseudo-apology on his behalf. (According to folks here.)
V for Virginia


If you didn't see it, you would need a vomit bag.

Later, bats.


GravatarAt least Chelsea doesn't fuck drunk on pool tables like some political daughters.
Lime Rickey |


And Chelsea achieved a 4.0 GPA at Stanford.
The only time Jenna and not Jenna achieved a 4.0 was on their combined blood alchohol levels after a night of drinking.


GravatarMolly, y'all welcome here, but we smoke, only in the kitchen, but Thers may be uncomfortable.


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