I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
!st?!!
Hmm, TKK must be on a break.
Peace
Ladies, time for a bazooms check.
Enjoyment is for loosers.
On white plagues and black magic
poor liberals, try as you might, you just could not tie the number of killed in Iraq last month.
In October, 38 died, but in November, 37.
Better luck this month. Anyone want to take some bets? We can play it like blackjack. If the number goes over 37, you win, but if its under, I win.
People who care about the troops take the under, see?
I WANNA WIN!
Oh...and Zap's Dad thinks that he has lung cancer that's spread to the brain.
And I'm sick of shoveling.
In October, 38 died, but in November, 37.
Wow, that's a dramatic improvement in the situation. I guess the troops can all come home.
Destroyer of Korby
NTodd I did what I could.
I'll send the link to my sisters.
Ladies, time for a bazooms check.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I am still losing weight like mad. Soon, I shall be translucent and can be checked easily.
TIED WITH KORBY!
Oh shit, Mr. Obscenity has joined us.
HBK's my hero!
38+37 = 75 deaths. You think that's sounds good? You bastard, you.
This guy told me "that which does not kill you, makes you stronger"...
http://www.megomuseum.com/wgsh/a.../
conanlarge.jpg
Is it wrong of me to check Hecate's Bazoom's link? You all know I'm interested in it solely for the sake of science, right?
In other news, have any of you been following how Fox or other wingnuts have been talking about the crazy person who pretended he had a bomb and when to Sen. Clinton's campaign headquarters?
Oh...and Zap's Dad thinks that he has lung cancer that's spread to the brain.
Man, that sucks.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 5:41 pm | #
You taking the over, then?
I'll sweeten the pot. I'll not post here for a month if someone takes the over and it wins.
dear dog - The man who devised the Bush administration's Iraq troop surge has urged the US to consider sending elite troops to Pakistan to seize its nuclear weapons if the country descends into chaos.
In a series of scenarios drawn up for Pakistan, Frederick Kagan, a former West Point military historian, has called for the White House to consider various options for an unstable Pakistan.
These include: sending elite British or US troops to secure nuclear weapons capable of being transported out of the country and take them to a secret storage depot in New Mexico or a "remote redoubt" inside Pakistan; sending US troops to Pakistan's north-western border to fight the Taliban and al-Qaida; and a US military occupation of the capital Islamabad, and the provinces of Punjab, Sindh and Baluchistan if asked for assistance by a fractured Pakistan military, so that the US could shore up President Pervez Musharraf and General Ashfaq Kayani, who became army chief this week.
"These are scenarios and solutions. They are designed to test our preparedness. The United States simply could not stand by as a nuclear-armed Pakistan descended into the abyss," Kagan, who is with the American Enterprise Institute, a thinktank with strong ideological ties to the Bush administration, told the Guardian. "We need to think now about our options in Pakistan,"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
pakist...2220126,00.html
One of the good things about my new macbook is that greasemonkey works just fine.
pud welcome to killfile.
Bitch.
Ladies, time for a bazooms check.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I love the first of the month.
I hate going to a concert by myself and leaving a ticket unused, which is what I'm doing tonight. Alejandro Escovedo. Sheesh.
Dang... asked the wrong people at the right time and the right people at the wrong time.
People who care about the troops take the under, see?
pud
Because believing something makes it true? How very new age of you.
poop
.
Oh...and Zap's Dad thinks that he has lung cancer that's spread to the brain.
Oh, I am sorry.
May his cancer desert him and fly into pud's empty braincase instead.
I know that's what they say, but in my experience whatever doesn't kill you makes you wish you were dead.
Is it wrong of me to check Hecate's Bazoom's link?
It's wrong not to.
I really like this one. Very elfin, small boobies. Me likey.
Zap.
Kagan argued that the rise of Sunni extremism in Pakistan, coupled with the proliferation of al-Qaida bases in the north-west, posed a real possibility of terrorists staging a coup that would give them access to a nuclear device. He also noted how sections of Pakistan's military and intelligence establishment continued to be linked to Islamists and warned that the army, demoralised by having to fight in Waziristan and parts of North-West Frontier Province, might retreat from the borders, leaving a vacuum that would be filled by radicals. Worse, the military might split, with a radical faction trying to take over Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.
Kagan accepted that the Pakistani military was not in the grip of Islamists. "Pakistan's officer corps and ruling elites remain largely moderate. But then again, Americans felt similarly about the shah's regime and look what happened in 1979," he said, referring to Iran.
The scenarios received a public airing two weeks ago in an article for the New York Times by Kagan and Michael O'Hanlon, an analyst at the Brookings Institution, who has ties to the Democrats.
They have been criticised in the US as well as Pakistan, with Kagan accused of drawing up plans for another US occupation of a Muslim country.
But the scenarios are regarded with some seriousness because of Kagan's influence over thinking in the Bush administration as the architect of the Iraq troop surge, which is conceded to have brought some improvements in security.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
pakist...2220126,00.html
considering how wrong a Kagan was about Iraq, why is he even considered serious?
I cannot fucking believe it that the same fuckers who dreamed up th Iraq war are now talking about Pakistan
Is it wrong of me to check Hecate's Bazoom's link? You all know I'm interested in it solely for the sake of science, right?
It's only natural.
Sad news, zap.
Korby. Isn't that the guy with the androids?
mer -- Have you tried to fool the registration by inserting an HTML non-breaking space?
.
NTodd,
I'm trying to be calm about it. Dad told me last night not to worry...but how can't I?
He's been meeting w/ a specialist from the Mayo, so at least he'll have a good idea of what's going on.
Oh...and Zap's Dad thinks that he has lung cancer that's spread to the brain.
sorry to hear, sending my best vibes your way.
betting on casualties is one hell of a way to "support the troops"
You taking the over, then?
You are a disgusting creature. And I wouldn't bet you on anything because, like all trolls, you won't honor your word.
Go fuck off, eat shit, and suck on Satan's tit, you death cult rapist freak.
betting on casualties is one hell of a way to "support the troops"
nick carraway | 12.01.07 - 5:46 pm | #
I'm betting they'll go down, because I support them.
I had to check the bazooms link too. Had to. It's instinct.
Zap I'm so sorry.
I fucking hate cancer.
I'm trying to be calm about it. Dad told me last night not to worry...but how can't I?
You can't not worry.
People with HIV-Aids in Henan province were placed under house arrest yesterday in what they say was an attempt to stop them telling the truth about the epidemic to the Chinese premier, Wen Jiabao.
Wen made a rare visit to the province - one of the worst affected areas - in an apparent attempt to raise awareness about the virus. But Aids activists say his visit was stage-managed by local officials, who have long tried to cover up the scandal of entire villages being infected with HIV through the selling of unclean blood.
Ma Shenyi, who has Aids, said two thugs came to his home in Wenlou village and would not allow him to go out even though one of his children needed treatment at a clinic. "I do not understand why premier Wen comes to visit us but real villagers are not allowed to meet him," said Ma, who has been caring for his three children since his wife died of Aids. "The people who will meet Wen have been paid by the local government to say nice things."
Locals said about 1,600 police, mostly in plain clothes, entered the village.
Liu Baode, who accuses local officials of siphoning off funds meant for patients, said he and more than 10 other men had been under house arrest in the morning and were followed in the afternoon. "Wen could not really see any of the bad things here. We got nothing from this visit."
Yesterday, on the eve of World Aids Day, the health ministry estimated that China would have 50,000 new HIV cases this year, with about 700,000 infected in total, including 85,000 with full-blown Aids. Its figures are endorsed by the World Health Organisation, but independent estimates are far higher.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/
...2220113,00.html
Also the defence of bush. Much better than what I'd initially assumed from the title.
Back to Friday night document dumps?
http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...XQpPBgD8T8SKGG0
I'm betting they'll go down, because I support them.
Why don't you bet al Sadr about that, you ignorant shitwhistle?
Zap: you've got to worry-- it's part of the deal-- just try not to let the worry get the better of you.
I'm betting they'll go down, because I support them.
One more death in this war is too many, you piece of human excrement.
pud, Tinkerbelle's dead.
My dad is a classy guy. But he's smoked and drank all of his adult life.
And so have I. I need to stop this shit.
I'm betting they'll go down, because I support them.
pud
Why don't you enlist, you cowardly fuck?
betting on casualties is one hell of a way to "support the troops"
nick carraway | 12.01.07 - 5:46 pm | #
It's all part of the conservative approach to war. Gotta get in on the action and make a buck while the making is good. What a fuckin obscenity this pud is!
They look like they've glided straight out of a black and white surfing film or one of those old drawings of the ancient Hawaiians rising like gods from the waves.
But these wooden boards are becoming a must-have for Britain's growing band of "soul surfers", who are shunning mass-produced models and looking for ones that hark back to a time that was less commercial, much more environmentally friendly and, perhaps, more spiritual.
Lovingly crafted by the American surfer Tom Wegener from sustainable plantation-grown wood, the Alaia [pronounced alaya] boards are now gracing the breaks of Devon, Cornwall and Scotland.
The Loose Fit surf shop in Braunton, north Devon, is finding a steadily growing market for the boards among enthusiasts who want to get back to basics. The shop's founder, Jon Finch, said: "They are beautiful objects, works of art. Unlike ordinary, mass-produced surfboards there are no nasties in them, no chemicals, no man-made resin, no fibreglass. They are just wood, shaped by hand and coated with linseed oil.
"Most surfboards are churned out by factories in Asia that can produce 2,000 in a day. These take many hours of work but they are really worth it. They will last a lifetime." And when they do eventually reach the end of their useful life the wooden board degrades - unlike the conventional artificial ones.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
busine...ethicalbusiness
Zap, hugs.
As many have said, cancer SUCKS!
Thinking about you. How's the house?
I'm betting they'll go down, because I support them.
You bet your life?
No, I didn't think so...
You bet your life?
No, I didn't think so...
This asshat plays games with other people's life.
You don't suppose pud is really Chimpy, do you?
I'm trying to be calm about it. Dad told me last night not to worry...but how can't I?
You can't not worry.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby
No, you can't. What you can do is stop smoking. That's why you were told.
Be good.
.
The Beatles' filler tracks would have been milion dollar hits for any other artists.
Like "I Me Mine" off the Let It Be thrown together album.
lives.
Definitely lives.
Thinking about you. How's the house?
Hi, sweetheart.
House is good. Did two rounds of shoveling today. And I don't think I'm done yet.
Like I said, though: we're not sure it's cancer. Though the odds are that something is there. They found two 'things' in his lungs; and the doctors are afraid that it's spread. They can't do a biopsy because of the location.
David Miliband has personally reassured the family of jailed British teacher Gillian Gibbons that he is doing "everything he can" to secure her release, it emerged today.
The foreign secretary called Mrs Gibbons' family last night to offer his support for the 54-year-old teacher from Liverpool.
And two British Muslim peers have travelled to Sudan in an effort to secure the teacher's release, a move which the Foreign Office said was separate to their efforts to secure her freedom, but which they described as "very welcome".
The peers, Labour's Lord Ahmed and Conservative Baroness Warsi, made the journey on their own initiative after negotiating with Sudanese officials.
"Analysts believe it would suit the Sudanese government to be seen to be showing mercy in handing her over to a Muslim delegation, instead of appearing to 'give in' to their former colonial masters, the British government," said the BBC's security correspondent Frank Gardner.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sudan/
...2220327,00.html
my theory - this is classic dictatorial behaviour, the Sudanese government has engineered this for their own ends, they want to create a west vs islam confrontation.
These type of tactics were used by Stalin e.g. show trials.
the religion is just a veneer.
pud, Tinkerbelle's dead.
She's sucking Castro's cock at 4pm. Symmetrically.
You don't suppose pud is really Chimpy, do you?
Sees war, death and suffering as a means for financial gain...sounds more like Brit Hume.
The Beatles' filler tracks would have been milion dollar hits for any other artists.
I dig a pygmy...
She's sucking Castro's cock at 4pm. Symmetrically.
before it pancakes on itself.
I'm off.
Keep warm.
Besitos y abrazos.
naturally certain sections of the media and right wing blogs prefer to see it solely in a islamofascist conspiracy to take over the world
Oh Zap, I'm so sorry. I lost my mom to cancer. I know it hurts.
DAMMIT!!
You took all of my Mimi jokes!
the thing to remember about 'pud', aside from the fact he's a trool, is that he likes to say we are at war *with* Iraq, which makes him an idiot.
come to think of it, he may well be the President...
They can't do a biopsy because of the location.
Mayo should be able to figure it out.
You take care. Keep shoveling, but for god's sake, stop smoking. We all want you around for a long time.
Drinking, otoh, is still okay. 
Watertiger, you know nothing of reality. Get a life.
NTodd. i believe you are in first now...
NTodd, you're even stranger than I thought.
Zap's Dad thinks that he has lung cancer that's spread to the brain.
Zap,
I am so sorry. Off to light incense for your right now.
Imagine if we'd spent everything that we've spent on Iraq on finding a cure for cancer?
Watertiger, you know nothing of reality. Get a life.
Um....Serenity now?
NTodd. i believe you are in first now...
Okay, where do I go to vote for most hunky, pantless man of the year?
NTodd. i believe you are in first now...
HAHAHAHAHA! FUCK YOU, KORBY! I'M NUMMA WON! LOOSER! I AM THE GODDAMNED KING OF FUCKING PEACE, BITCHES!
Fred Kagan! Hard to find historical parallels: Napoleon plus Giap? Maybe Patton and Nathaniel Greene? Kinda like Metternich, but more macho? Rambo with a dash of Clausewitz and Suge Liang? Mao plus Lin Biao plus Bolivar? Oh wait: Pilsbury Dough Boy plus General Petain and Vidkun Quisling! There's the ticket.
oh dear.
kettles everywhere!
mimi - you're even dumber and crazier than I thought. Lemme know when Mir lands, you psychopathetic hosebeast.
Or pantsless
NTodd, they called you hunky but I think they meant chunky
My dad is a classy guy. But he's smoked and drank all of his adult life.
My mother started smoking as a teenager and was a fairly heavy drinker. She died of lung cancer last year at the age 68. When I think back on it, we were probably lucky to have her around as long as we did. She had several health crises the last 12 years of her life. Thank god she lived in Canada, otherwise the first of them probably would have wiped her out financially.
Watertiger, you know nothing of reality. Get a life.
Um....Serenity now?
I've often wondered if . . . .
mimi - they call you fucked up, but I think they meant supercalifragifuckedupnotsexy.
Moonbootica, Heterodox | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 5:53 pm | #
Moon ! Love that story about shareholders in Northern Rock. Why do those whingers get anything at all? They hold shares in a company with a negative net worth.
Lemme know when Mir lands, you psychopathetic hosebeast.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby
It's cute when NTodd and mimi get all flirty.
Todd, you ARE death.
Moon ! Love that story about shareholders in Northern Rock. Why do those whingers get anything at all? They hold shares in a company with a negative net worth.
rootless-e | 12.01.07 - 6:01 pm | #
aye, all i can say to them is 'suck it up'
they took a gamble and now they are acting like WATB over it
I dig a pygmy...
By Charles Hawtry and the Def-aids
Phase one, in which Doris gets her oats
Oh, and stop masturbating while thinking about me, it grosses me out.
the thing to remember about 'pud', aside from the fact he's a trool, is that he likes to say we are at war *with* Iraq, which makes him an idiot.
come to think of it, he may well be the President...
nick carraway | 12.01.07 - 5:56 pm | #
uh...where are all those troops stationed then, genius?
they took a gamble and now they are acting like WATB over it
Moonbootica, Heterodox | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 6:03 pm | #
The government should pay them a dictionary with a bookmark by "due diligence".
It's cute when NTodd and mimi get all flirty.
SteveLG | 12.01.07 - 6:02 pm | #
imagine the offspring they'd have...
The government should pay them a dictionary with a bookmark by "due diligence".
rootless-e | 12.01.07 - 6:04 pm | #
yeah
you know I swear Hedge Funds will bring down the entire capitalist system heh
Imagine if we'd spent that we've spent on Iraq on finding a cure for cancer?
I know you know.
But Dad's lived a hard life. They raised me, for gosh sakes.
But we'll be fine. Dad and I have butted heads many a time. I actually watched him get arrested once for being a jackass. It wasn't pretty.
But I need to quit smoking. I can't live the same way he did. Grandpa was a hard drinker/smoker, as well. And I told Zapette the other night that I'm going that route. I'll be 32 in two weeks; and I feel like I've done waaaaay too much to my body as it is.
I swear Hedge Funds will bring down the entire capitalist system heh
Go, hedge funds!
But I need to quit smoking.
Yes, yes you do. Besides, think of how much money you'll save. How much does it cost to buy a pack of cigs these days?
NTodd's middle name is Vishnu.
uh...where are all those troops stationed then, genius?
Hilarious! As if you know!
o lord... where o where to begin?
did you lose the copy of the talking points or what?
Sonic, the hedge fund.
Oh, and stop masturbating while thinking about me, it grosses me out.
The thought of Little Buddy cranking it while fantasizing about Butler is more than a little disconcerting....
But I need to quit smoking.
It would be great. They have drugs now that make it, not easy, but easier. One of the women in my circle quit this year w/ the help of one of them. I know it would probably make Zappette v. happy.
hedge funds like to gamble and sometimes it pays off and they are happy.
but when it goes south, like with Northern Rock they suddenly get all huffy about it but no one is telling them that they have behaved irresponsibility
mimi, you're worse than death.
[jerks off for 30 seconds]
The stoopud, it burns!
WT,
'bout five bucks a pack here.
I know it's about 8 a pack out there.
[jerks off for 30 seconds]
"Funny, Jim never jerks off for less than 30 seconds at home!"
Tod, you only wish you knew.
And you're exaggerating when you say 30 seconds, more like 5.
watertiger: Yes, yes you do. Besides, think of how much money you'll save. How much does it cost to buy a pack of cigs these days?
Guys at my joint say $222/pack.
.
Damn, there's a whole new domestic spying program out there.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/200.../#comment-
71948
but when it goes south, like with Northern Rock they suddenly get all huffy about it but no one is telling them that they have behaved irresponsibility
Moonbootica, Heterodox | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 6:07 pm | #
The dynamic is that the financial companies work hard to destroy the government regulation and enforcement that makes their market function at all.
It would be great. They have drugs now that make it, not easy, but easier. One of the women in my circle quit this year w/ the help of one of them. I know it would probably make Zappette v. happy.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 6:07 pm | #
Your "circle"? What do you do, get together and drum or something?
hippydippybullshit.
No, mimi, with you it takes extra effort for me to blow my wad.
'bout five bucks a pack here.
How many packs a week?
Set yourself a goal - quit smoking and put the money in a fund toward something you and/or Zappette needs/wants.
Just a thought.
And I told Zapette the other night that I'm going that route. I'll be 32 in two weeks; and I feel like I've done waaaaay too much to my body as it is.
You're young enough that you can start reversing damage.
Do it for Zapette, future Zaps and Zapettes, and you.
Time to cook. Laterz.
Ignore it.
NTodd: No, mimi, with you it takes extra effort for me to blow my wad.
So that's why you borrowed my belt sander.
.
Ignore it.
Which one?
this is a nice change of pace from the living room where everyone has been drinking for hours and telling me for the 400th time who made a fortune guiding Jews to Switzerland during the Second World War and who was a collaborator, etc.
I've heard these stories a thousand times.
The dynamic is that the financial companies work hard to destroy the government regulation and enforcement that makes their market function at all.
rootless-e | 12.01.07 - 6:09 pm | #
aye, when ever there is talk about some form of regulation, they start saying 'oh but it'll effect the economy' and this frightens the politicians.
Ignore it.
Can't. I have another woody.
It amazes me that Commander Codpiece's Moment of Triumph on the aircraft carrier ("Mission Accomplished") has been forgotten. No wonder Rove quit.
So that's why you borrowed my belt sander.
Tod, probably because you're used to ugly and fat.
WT,
'bout five bucks a pack here.
I know it's about 8 a pack out there.
Zap Rowsdower
That's unbelievable, these all natural ones I get are $1.54 a pack.
So that's why you borrowed my belt sander.
Uh, dude, I think you really want it to be MY belt sander now, if ya follah.
Which one?
Fuck...I forgot that we're under multiple invasions.
"Funny, Jim never jerks off for less than 30 seconds at home!"
watertiger
Well, actually, I....
Oh, I mean, um, nevermind.
How bad is US News & World Report? Lemme tell ya, dammed if I'm going to link to it.
My dear 89 y/o Mom, wanted me to check out Mort Zuckerman's latest guaranteed shitwistle sonata, so I relented and, sure enough, it can be summarized in 3 words: Crassus for Emperor.
Sticking his Broderometer in America's bum to attain a sentiment reading, he finds us mostly middle age, middle class, middle of the road, desparately ill of partisan politicz and mistrustful of the major party candidates. Therefore, only solution to our woes is for a Moderate Independent to run. Now, who could it be? Why, none other than Michael Bloomberg.
But, of course, a corporatist billioniare is the prefect definition of a Moderate Independent. Zuckerman is Joke Line without the beard.
Most of the examples of "free market reform" Klein describes could be more accurately described as "economic fascism." What passes for "free market reform," "deregulation," and "privatization" among the neoliberals is probably at least as statist as the various social democratic and mixed economy models to which neoliberalism is opposed.
http://mutualist.blogspot.com/20...k-
doctrine.html
you only have to see how politicians rotate from corporation boardroom, to office and back again
mimi - compared to you, Kate Mass is fat. Eat a goddamned Swiss chocolate or something, fuck Hitler's sake.
later
by the time I'm dead the truth will be that we really were greeted with flowers snd candy. statues of rummy will abound.
Tod, if I were into guys who looked like an American tourist I would pick one up off the street.
ciao rootless-e 
BTW, if you all help me destroy Korby, my February trip to DC will be free.
Your "circle"? What do you do, get together and drum or something?
hippydippybullshit.
Oh, honey, it's so much worse than that.
I didn't know Hitler drank sake.
.
But, of course, a corporatist billioniare is the prefect definition of a Moderate Independent. Zuckerman is Joke Line without the beard.
bo |
Well, Mort may not be as billionaire as Bloomberg, but he's up there, isn't he?
mimi - I always knew you were a slut.
1watt,
Still not worth it; 'natural' or not.
The doc just put my Dad on some stuff that's shuts off the part of your brain that likes nicotine. I told him that I want to know how it works, so I can try it.
Tod, you just think I'm skinny because you're used to seeing yourself in the mirror. I am the same size as most women here.
mimi - my cock is thicker than you are.
This fire is delicious. So is the soup I made for dinner.
Be good. Stay warm. Arthur needs his dinner now.
.
Tod, I really doubt it.
I didn't know Hitler drank sake.
He was allied with the Nips, man.
mimi - go ask Castro.
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Saudi Arabia is bristling at international criticism over the sentencing of a rape victim to prison and 200 lashes, insisting the West should stay out of its legal system. But the case could empower voices for change in the kingdom's Islamic courts.
The punishment of the ``Girl of Qatif'' - as the rape victim is known, after her hometown in eastern Saudi Arabia - was labeled ``barbaric'' by Canada. In a rare criticism of its Mideast ally, the White House called the Saudi court ruling ``outrageous.''
Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal, in the U.S. for a Mideast peace conference, was visibly annoyed.
``What is outraging about this case is that it is being used against the Saudi government and people,'' he told reporters Tuesday.
But he said the Saudi judiciary will review the case and it will go before the nation's highest court - a move seen as a challenge to conservative clerics who run the courts.
Saudi writer Sultan al-Qahtani said Saud's comment might be the ``strongest message yet'' from the kingdom's leadership that the judiciary must reform. The international pressure over the case could provide momentum to legal reform efforts pushed by Saudi King Abdullah.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
worldl...7119661,00.html
1watt,
Still not worth it; 'natural' or not.
not saying it is.
NTodd: He was allied with the Nips, man.
Well, cheese is one thang... sake, quite another.
.
Mr. Death, I'd do Castro, although I would be worried I would kill him.
Maybe not, on second thought. He's a Leo and probably a selfish lover.
"The controversy over the Girl of Qatif sentence might lead to a strong push for the government, which is inclined toward reform, to confront the other elements that insist the kingdom maintain its extreme religiosity,'' he wrote this week on liberal Saudi Web Site Elaph.
Saudi King Abdullah issued a decree in October for ambitious reforms in the court system, including establishing a Supreme Court and commercial, personal status and labor tribunals in an attempt to make the often random system more regulated.
But al-Qahtani said the deeply conservative clerical hierarchy is resistant.
In Saudi Arabia, courts are all Islamic, run by clerics following the kingdom's strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam - but with no written legal code.
``It's left to the judge to decide the punishment he sees, which leads to contradictions,'' Saudi columnist Saleh Ibrahim al-Tariki wrote in an article published Saturday on the Web site of the Al-Arabiya TV network - a Saudi-owned station.
In the case of the Girl of Qatif, the woman - a member of the kingdom's Shiite minority - was attacked in 2006 when she met a high school friend in his car to retrieve a picture of herself from him, since she had recently married. Two men got into the vehicle and drove them to a secluded area where five others waited, and then the woman - 19 at the time - and her companion were both raped, she has said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
worldl...7119661,00.html
Crassus for Emperor.
Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you eat oysters?
Antoninus: When I have them, master.
Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you eat snails?
Antoninus: No, master.
Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral and the eating of snails to be immoral?
Antoninus: No, master.
Marcus Licinius Crassus: Of course not. It is all a matter of taste, isn't it?
Antoninus: Yes, master.
Marcus Licinius Crassus: And taste is not the same as appetite, and therefore not a question of morals.
Antoninus: It could be argued so, master.
Marcus Licinius Crassus: My robe, Antoninus. My taste includes both snails and oysters.
not saying it is.
Surely, you're not aghast at cigarette prices, are you?
Hirohito felt bad when Hitler quit sending him bratwurst for christmas... he suddenly knew the Axis' prospects were not what they once had been.
Zap - keep a close eye on your dad if its the new stuff called Chantix. A guy here in Dallas was taking it and he got very agitated and aggressive, started beating on some person's door late at night, and was shot by the homeowner. The dead guy's friends and families said the behavior was completely out of character and they thought the stop-smoking drug caused it. If you look the drug up, agitation is a side effect.
I'm fairly sure I'm the least selfish lover in the entire world.
I'm so not making that up.
Tod, if I were into guys who looked like an American tourist I would pick one up off the street.
mimi ...mimi - I always knew you were a slut.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby ....Tod, you just think I'm skinny because you're used to seeing yourself in the mirror. I am the same size as most women here.
mimi ...mimi - my cock is thicker than you are.
NTodd, Destroyer of Korby ...Tod, I really doubt it.
mimi
I would like to thank you two sincerely for making it really easy for me to listen to the scolding of my wife and not hang around here this afternoon.....
Crassus, went up against the Parthians, didn't turn out to well for him or his army
TEBB: Zap - keep a close eye on your dad if its the new stuff called Chantix. A guy here in Dallas was taking it and he got very agitated and aggressive, started beating on some person's door late at night, and was shot by the homeowner. The dead guy's friends and families said the behavior was completely out of character and they thought the stop-smoking drug caused it. If you look the drug up, agitation is a side effect.
Sounds a lot like what happened to me on Wellbutrin.
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I would like to thank you two sincerely for making it really easy for me to listen to the scolding of my wife and not hang around here this afternoon.....
[bows, farts, goes downstairs to make dinner]
Maybe not, on second thought. He's a Leo and probably a selfish lover.
Maybe I'm a Leo, but I'm not a lion.
mimi - my cock is thicker than you are. - NTodd
Impossibe! Nothing is thicker than mimi's skull.
Mr. Death, if I go by what you've said, you are the most egotistical and selfish man on the planet.
Crassus, went up against the Parthians, didn't turn out to well for him or his army - Moonbootica
So may it be for Mikey B.
Crassus had spent much of his career in the background, a shadowy figure with deep pockets.
naturally he saw Pompey and his military glory and wanted some himself.
hence his ill advised jaunt into Parthia.
Deadly farts from Mr. Death.
You know, if I were named after Death, I might have psychological problems too.
Surely, you're not aghast at cigarette prices, are you?
Zap Rowsdower
just yours.
Sounds a lot like what happened to me on Wellbutrin. . Jeffraham Prestonian
I get the same effect from Fox News.
Queen of clever insults, I tells ya...
for Roman senators of the time, a rather quick way to enhance your career was an invasion, defeat an 'enemy' and then stock up on booty, which you could then use to fund your political career and having an army helped as well, providing muscle, so you could really make sure your law was passed
Mr. Death, if I go by what you've said, you are the most egotistical and selfish man on the planet.
I most certainly am.
Yet as a lover, selfless. Sad you'll never get to experience that, you psychowormfucker. You blew your shot by acting like a stupid crazy person.
And I'm not named for death. I'm a fox. Please make a note of it, Eva Braun.
"might"?
*snort*
for Roman senators of the time, a rather quick way to enhance your career was an invasion, defeat an 'enemy' and then stock up on booty
I'd have made a great Senator. I'm all about the booty call.
bo: I get the same effect from Fox News.
Like trolls, I can generally ignore that shit, if it's in the ambience (I have it blocked on my TV, like the rest of the shop-at-home and God-popped channels).
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They're not 'just mine', 1watt.
More and more states have high taxes on smokes.
Like I said earlier, a pack that would cost five bucks here would cost eight or nine bucks out east.
(but they give you a book of matches )
and having an army helped as well, providing muscle, so you could really make sure your law was passed - Moonbootica,
Gee, did someone just say "Blackwater"? And I think of TSA part-timers as the shock troops.
That ship has sailed long ago, Death
and it's not Eva Braun. It's Ilsa, she-wolf ....
USA Gold smokes are still under $3/pack here in TN, if you get 'em at Sahib's by the carton.
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I think I just met my Stalingrad.
Voting has begun in Russia's general election, with citizens in the far east of the country going to the polls long before they open in the west.
Eleven parties are competing for places in the lower house, the Duma - though it is not clear how many will win the 7% needed to qualify for seats.
Opposition parties have accused the government of stifling their campaigns and of intimidation.
Independent monitors say their attempts to observe the poll have been hampered.
The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) has abandoned its plans to send a big team of election observers to Russia after accusing the Russian government of imposing unacceptable restrictions and of deliberately delaying the issuing of visas. Russia has denied the claims.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/
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i was driving doing nothing on the shores of Great Salt Lake
when they put it on the air i put it in the hammer lane
i soon forgot myeslf and i forgot about the brake
i forgot all laws and i forgot about the rain
they were talking on the 9 and all across the amy band
across the road they were turning around and headed south with me
it got so crowded on the road i started driving in the sand
my head was feeling scared but my heart was feeling free
the desert turned to mud it seems that everybody heard
everybody was remembering to forget they had the chills
then i heard the voices on a broadcast from up on the bird
they were getting interviewed by some Goodman whose name was Bill
i'm almost there to Vegas where they're puttin' on a show
they've come so far i've lived this long at least i must just go and say
hello
bo: I get the same effect from Fox News.
Like trolls, I can generally ignore that shit, if it's in the ambience (I have it blocked on my TV, like the rest of the shop-at-home and God-popped channels).
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Jeffraham Prestonian
I have blocked from my teevees:
Fox, ETWN, CNBC, Headline News, CNN, a couple of batshit local religion channels, and all the home shopping channels.
evening bats
what's this about roman booty calls?
SHEETS!
"USA Gold smokes are still under $3/pack here in TN, if you get 'em at Sahib's by the carton."
cheapest smokage is raw rolling tobacco. you can buy a pound of it for like $10, and smoke until yer lungs bleed.
Zap: Within 3-5 years of not smoking, your rate of getting cancer decreases drastically. And your cardiovascular health improves close to immediately as nicotine is withdrawn.
Well, well worth giving it up. And don't worry about the weight business.
Deeply sorry to hear about your dad. Good luck with the Mayo; they've read up on this stuff. Anything I can do, let me know...
I think I just met my Stalingrad. - NTodd
Then bring in the Vulgar Boatmen.
In the case of the Girl of Qatif, the woman - a member of the kingdom's Shiite minority - was attacked in 2006 when she met a high school friend in his car to retrieve a picture of herself from him, since she had recently married. Two men got into the vehicle and drove them to a secluded area where five others waited, and then the woman - 19 at the time - and her companion were both raped, she has said.
So according to these assholes, the girl is an adultress,
This is the kind of people Bush Co. sucks up to.
Terry C: as you well know, if Hitler's Germany had Saudi amounts of oil, and we were as dependent on it, we'd have found a way to live and let live.
I haven't much good to say for Wahhabi Islam. fact is, I'd guess the fundies of Christianity and the fundies of Islam understand each other more than either would care to admit. The narcissism of small differences.
I'd guess the fundies of Christianity and the fundies of Islam understand each other more than either would care to admit. The narcissism of small differences.
ProfWombat
I detest fundies of ANY religion.
How's the capitualation and excuses for inaction going this evening?
Have we lost enough hope?
I thought so.
A friend of mine is doing an online survey on a social issue, for academic purposes. Takes about 20 minutes, and I thought it was fairly interesting, as these things go.
If you can take the time it will help. Here's the link:
http://www.socratesinsights.com/
...pass=Conference
Thanks!
What will it take to oen all the doors to an impeachmen investigation?
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