I'm convinced that it doesn't matter who the Republican candidate is. It only matters who the Democratic nominee is, because that person will be the next President of the United States.
MP |
02.09.08 - 4:57 pm | #
I was also going to suggest that maybe he's on strike in solidarity.
blerb |
02.09.08 - 4:58 pm | #
From below: The notion of negative externalities in economics, seems to me, is worth far more thoughtful scrutiny than it's gotten.
But they are, by definition, of no interest. Their hands are tied!
Every academic discipline suffers from these blind spots.
Negative externalities get a lot of attention in economics. The classic is the "Tragedy of the Commons" which had to do with the excess use of the Boston Commons for cow grazing, because it was owned by nobody in particular and because that meant that everyone thought their cows could graze there.
The cod wars was the next installment in the debate. The conservatives argued essentially that people can take care of negative externalities without government intervention by either matching them with positive externalities (such as in the case of beekeepers and apple orchards) or by private negotiations.
Those don't work in many cases, because the matching of problems in that way is rare and because any kind of negotiation requires that the people are in the same area and about equally strong in power to begin with.
Echidne |
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02.09.08 - 4:59 pm | #
john mccain just now on cnn on karl rove: everybody in america knows he's got the smartest political advice; i'd love to have him; i've always respected him...
nona |
02.09.08 - 4:59 pm | #
Looks like it's Denny Crane/Gomer Pyle '08.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 4:59 pm | #
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who introduced transcendentalist meditation to the West, died Tuesday at his headquarters in the Netherlands. He was believed to be in his early 90s.
Among the best-known seekers of his wisdom were The Beatles.
He also was an entrepreneur of enlightenment, who built an enterprise of spiritual centers and schools that today is estimated to have assets of about $300 million.
He was often known as The Giggling Guru for the high-pitched laugh he often used to emphasize his observations.
el |
02.09.08 - 4:59 pm | #
Daddy Dewdrop sez:
Huck-a-boom huck-a-boom don't ya jes' love it
Huck-a-boom huck-a-boom don't ya jes' love it
Huck-a-boom huck-a-boom don't ya jes' love it
Huck-a-boom huck-a-boom-boom-boom
billy b |
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02.09.08 - 5:00 pm | #
I doubt that Romney remaining in the race would have changed the Kansas outcome, but, man...that win was by a huge margin.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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02.09.08 - 5:00 pm | #
Those don't work in many cases, because the matching of problems in that way is rare and because any kind of negotiation requires that the people are in the same area and about equally strong in power to begin with.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:59 pm | #
yeah i remember hearing a lot about the coase theorem back in the day.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:00 pm | #
NTodd, Fästing Führer
YOU'VE RUINED MY LIFE!
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 5:01 pm | #
TEH GUN MANUFRACTURERS SHOULD GET OUT A HEAD OF THE CURVE AND RUN PUBLIC SERVICE ADS WITH CATCHY SLOGGANS LIKE BASF ADS "WE DONT KILL THE PEOPLE WE MAKE THE GUNS THAT KILL TEH PEOPLE BETTER"
Merkin Patriot | 04.16.07 - 3:51 pm | #
The Gratest Troll.
Of course you've noticed - trolls don't get banned here. Not even the wretched, sexist, racist fuckwads.
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QuentinCompson |
Homepage |
02.09.08 - 5:01 pm | #
Who the hell is running in Pakistan's elections?
Jake in Milwaukee |
Homepage |
02.09.08 - 5:01 pm | #
didja know that "Sexy Sadie" was originally "Maharishi?"
huh, didja?
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 5:01 pm | #
He also was an entrepreneur of enlightenment, who built an enterprise of spiritual centers and schools that today is estimated to have assets of about $300 million.
Founder of the Om Shopping Network.
That joke has been reincarnated many times this week.
JeffCO |
02.09.08 - 5:01 pm | #
hmm the rumors of his banning were greatly exaggerated.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:02 pm | #
Who the hell is running in Pakistan's elections?
Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, and Lyndon LaRouche.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:02 pm | #
didja know that "Sexy Sadie" was originally "Maharishi?"
huh, didja?
That's two for you today, V.
billy b |
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02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
Kansas hearts Huckabee.
Chuck Norris threatened to beat the whole state up if they didn't vote for Huckleberry.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, and Lyndon LaRouche.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:02 pm | #
And Musharaff wins!
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
I was banned a few times. But it must have just been a mistake because they only lasted for a week or so.
annie |
02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
So was Gomez being namestolen?
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, and Lyndon LaRouche.
noh the son of Bhutto
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
didja know that "Sexy Sadie" was originally "Maharishi?"
Next you're gonna tell me that "Yesterday" was originally "scrambled eggs"!
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
cnn.com has a live feed from a washington caucus. jessica yellin's mike was live for several minutes and she didn't know it. yellin's yaking on the phone and chit chating with other reporters. Then she noticed she was miked: Hey is this mike live! Why am I live! Would somebody turn this mike off.
noh the son of Bhutto
ccokz | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
He's not on the ballot, though, I thought? Isn't he in Oxford? And didn't Sharif boycott the thing?
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:04 pm | #
didja know that "Sexy Sadie" was originally "Maharishi?"
Next you're gonna tell me that "Yesterday" was originally "scrambled eggs"!
And "I buried Paul" was really "cranberry sauce"!
NTodd, Fästing Führer |
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02.09.08 - 5:04 pm | #
I think it more likely that Merkin takes breaks from here like we all do from time to time.
underwhelm
He was hee (briefly) a few days ago. I don't think anybody could have imitated him.
Lumpenprolitariot |
02.09.08 - 5:04 pm | #
I doubt if Huckabee won in and around KC. Other than Topeka, it's all American Gothic territory. We lived right on the edge of KC civilization, could drive 15 minutes and be lost in the wheat fields, then go forever and see a lone house here and there.
Huckabee seems a good fit for Kansas, good practical folk.
el |
02.09.08 - 5:05 pm | #
Ha!
hadenough | 02.09.08 - 5:03 pm | #
Waiting on the call from my buddy in Olympia.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:05 pm | #
That's two for you today, V.
billy b
Nonono -- it's true!
Maharishi
What have you done?
You've made a fool of everyone
You've made a fool of everyone, oh oh, Maharishi, yeah ...
Maharishi
You'll get yours yet
However big you think you are
However big you think you are ...
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 5:05 pm | #
He's not on the ballot, though, I thought? Isn't he in Oxford? And didn't Sharif boycott the thing?
Bhutto's son is now the head of the party, IIRC.
I have no idea who's running outside of Mushy.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:05 pm | #
sharif was busy playing backgammon
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:05 pm | #
"Kansas hearts Huckabee."
OR
They fucking hate McCain.
sally |
02.09.08 - 5:05 pm | #
john mccain just now on cnn on karl rove: everybody in america knows he's got the smartest political advice; i'd love to have him; i've always respected him...
nona
Even though he trashed you and your family during the 2000 campaign, John?
Bend over and spread 'em a little more for Karl, John.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:05 pm | #
mount your 'Raptors and draw your swords ...
focus, pocus |
02.09.08 - 5:06 pm | #
I have no idea who's running outside of Mushy.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:05 pm | #
He's the inheritor of the party, but his father is the boss right now. Son's still finishing school in Oxford, with high security presence. This delay in the vote was supposed to allow for the PPP to find an adequate replacement for Bhutto-- then I never heard anything again.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:06 pm | #
He ran a hotdog stand in his final days. Regardless of what you ordered, he made you one with everything.
bo |
02.09.08 - 5:06 pm | #
shit, the wapo has the vote breakdown. mittster got 653 votes;
alan keyes got 288 and rudy got 34.
nona |
02.09.08 - 5:07 pm | #
mount your 'Raptors and draw your swords .
Is that what the kids call it today?
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QuentinCompson |
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02.09.08 - 5:07 pm | #
Nonono -- it's true!
I wuzn't bein' a doubting Thomas. I b'leeved it.
The other in the 2fer was troutslap.
billy b |
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02.09.08 - 5:07 pm | #
I'm telling you, the Rethugs are taking a dive this go round. They're conceding the Oval Office, so that they can snipe incessantly until 2012.
MP |
02.09.08 - 5:07 pm | #
He's not on the ballot, though, I thought? Isn't he in Oxford? And didn't Sharif boycott the thing?
He ran a hotdog stand in his final days. Regardless of what you ordered, he made you one with everything.
And you didn't get any change because change comes from within.
Echidne |
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02.09.08 - 5:08 pm | #
v! re: mail, I'm starting a game, ok? Take yr time, whenever.
el |
02.09.08 - 5:08 pm | #
everybody in america knows he's got the smartest political advice; i'd love to have him; i've always respected him...
Another one to add to the collection of mouth farts we can pummel him with in the General campaign.
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:08 pm | #
What is wrong with cnn. yellin is making an ass out of herself in front of a camera she doesn't know is live.
hadenough |
02.09.08 - 5:08 pm | #
they republicans dont have a choice about conceding the oval office.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:08 pm | #
And "I buried Paul" was really "cranberry sauce"!
NTodd, Fästing Führer
Over new years one of our friends was trying to convince me that the chant at the end of The Walrus was "everybody smoke pot, everybody smoke pot."
No. It is not!
Jeesh, these amateurs, I swear . ..
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 5:09 pm | #
I'm telling you, the Rethugs are taking a dive
That's why they could put Condi on the ticket as a throwaway nomination and still claim 'credit'.
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QuentinCompson |
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02.09.08 - 5:09 pm | #
Huckabee's door was nailed shut for 59 straight days.
He assures his new buds that he must be a real conservative because he has an unbelievable persecution complex.
Culture of TrÜth |
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02.09.08 - 5:09 pm | #
wait a second, that was a psychiatrist joke not a maharishi joke!
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:09 pm | #
I'm telling you, the Rethugs are taking a dive this go round. They're conceding the Oval Office, so that they can snipe incessantly until 2012.
MP
but will the Reagan baby be ready by then?
focus, pocus |
02.09.08 - 5:10 pm | #
Even though he trashed you and your family during the 2000 campaign, John?
Bend over and spread 'em a little more for Karl, John.
Terry C, Clintonian
Since when has consistency been a hallmark of any repukkklican?
Hola, batsies. What've I missed this fine Saturday?
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:10 pm | #
And you didn't get any change because change comes from within. - Echidne
Hee! I walked into that one.
bo |
02.09.08 - 5:10 pm | #
Her nineteen-year old son, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari and his father Asif Ali Zardari were appointed party co-chairmen on December 30, 2007.
Bilawal intends to complete his studies at Oxford before returning to lead the party full time. It had been estimated that Bilawal's security at Oxford will cost at least one million pounds each year.
aside:tape from killing: pakistan confirmed recently bhutto died of a blast not of a shot
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:10 pm | #
how many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb? none, the lightbulb has to want to change.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:10 pm | #
oh man. it just hit me that the office door being nailed shut and the huckster's dogged determination to carry on ... hmmm
seriously. he's the fucking governor of the state and doesn't have the authority to remove the fucking nails from an office door and lets that drag on for 59 days? can you spell m-a-r-t-y-r.
huckster is a very dangerous man.
nona |
02.09.08 - 5:10 pm | #
There's no place like home......there's no place like home...
Shared Humanity |
02.09.08 - 5:10 pm | #
I'm sorry. When I said economists didn't care about negative externalities, I meant to say that capitalists don't care about negative externalities.
At least, not the current breed.
underwhelm |
02.09.08 - 5:10 pm | #
I'm telling you, the Rethugs are taking a dive this go round.
Nope. They HAVE nothing.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:11 pm | #
What've I missed this fine Saturday?
Everybody's riffing on he super-calloused, fragile mystic, plagued with halitosis.
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:11 pm | #
I am so bummed out about TJs son. Damn. Maybe the therapist is over reacting.
qlª |
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02.09.08 - 5:11 pm | #
Huckabee will pay for the Iraq war using volunteer payments into his Tax Me More Fund.
He "didn't major in math, he majored in miracles."
Culture of TrÜth |
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02.09.08 - 5:11 pm | #
el -- anytime, I'm checking.
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 5:12 pm | #
Everybody's riffing on he super-calloused, fragile mystic, plagued with halitosis.
blerb | 02.09.08 - 5:11 pm | #
.He "didn't major in math, he majored in miracles."
Looks like we're in for an object lesson in faith-based campaigning.
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:12 pm | #
I am so bummed out about TJs son. Damn. Maybe the therapist is over reacting.
qlª
Did you get the impression he just took off, like, today? They should do an Amber Alert if they do it for 16 year olds.
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 5:13 pm | #
It's not about misheard lyrics (there are plenty of those) but ACTUAL lyrics that you want to know the meaning of. Lots of fun it read. Makes a great bathroom book. Short, fun informative chapters. Buy it for the music fan in your life who doesn't really like to read, but likes music trivia.
(The music fan in your life who has to go to the bathroom? Hmmmm. Maybe not the most elegant pitch but hey, if you buy one as a gift I'll be happy as will my buddy Brent.)
spocko |
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02.09.08 - 5:14 pm | #
I'm not enjoying the journey, IOW.
I feel like a heretic coming to a political blog feeling the same way, but boy I wish it would end.
underwhelm |
02.09.08 - 5:14 pm | #
Huckabee will pay for the Iraq war using volunteer payments into his Tax Me More Fund.
Did he get that GWB's SOTU "mail yer chex an' money ordurs to tha IRS" bit?
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:14 pm | #
i wonder how much the repubs are savaging each other over their 2 candidates. i dont wonder enough to go to lgf or free republic, assuming those sites still exist.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:14 pm | #
Speaking of Huckabee, americablog had a great McCain citation from 98 about Chelsea Clinton out again:
scroll down a bit for link
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." - John McCain in 1998
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:14 pm | #
I'm not enjoying the journey, IOW.
noblejoanie
I get the impression that the rest of the world isn't either, although most are relieved that Bush will be gone in 11 months.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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02.09.08 - 5:14 pm | #
Half the Republican Party hates their own front runner candidate. C'mon Dems, I think we can whip that in November.
MP |
02.09.08 - 5:15 pm | #
I bet the Huck voters are pissed at Romney. If he had got out before now Huck may have been able to beat McCain.
Then when Romney does get out he says he supports McCain. strange.
sally |
02.09.08 - 5:15 pm | #
dunno, i got the impression they missed him recently.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:15 pm | #
I feel like a heretic coming to a political blog feeling the same way, but boy I wish it would end.
underwhelm
One of the best things about this blog is it isn't all-primary all-the-time......
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:16 pm | #
spocko -- sounds like a fun book!
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 5:16 pm | #
I'm not enjoying the journey, IOW. - noblejoanie
Startin' to look at State and local campaigns. In the CA Assembly Sally Lieber's termed out, and Charlie Brown and McNerney could use some help.
bo |
02.09.08 - 5:16 pm | #
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." - John McCain in 1998
ccokz
That was discussed last night.
What a miserable excuse for a human being that bastard is.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:16 pm | #
sry it isnt of cuz great literally just the context is picked well. even with mccain we wont get a campaign free of personal insults
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:16 pm | #
One of the best things about this blog is it isn't all-primary all-the-time......
So Hitler walks into a room...
watertiger, kodos4prez |
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02.09.08 - 5:17 pm | #
If nothing else in this campaign, we are going to be treated to one hell of a montage of asshole things Huggy Bear has said over the years, all rolled into one awesome political ad. All we need to top it off is a clip of him saying thanks! I'm here all week! Try the veal!
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:17 pm | #
What a miserable excuse for a human being that bastard is.
Terry C, Clintonian | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:16 pm | #
And besides the cussidness of it, she's actually quite pretty. Not sure where that even came from.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:17 pm | #
WSJ and now NPR analyst said Huckabee is running for VP.
Wonder how McCain likes them apples. I don't know if I'd like to be the only person between some True Believe fundie and attaining their dream of a theocracy....
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 5:17 pm | #
i really really dont care how attractive people think the AG is either. all i care about is getting someone that is going to go after the abuses of the last 8 (to be) years.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:17 pm | #
What a miserable excuse for a human being that bastard is.
Terry C, Clintonian
ANd aren't they fucking jealous there isn't a single repukkklican spawn with half the chops of Chelsea.
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:18 pm | #
"Details?
Lumpenprolitariot "
Stream just ended. Live feed link on cnn's front page to Washington state caucus. yellin in a tight sweater is standing right in front of the lens stretching and bending, fixing her hair. The camera man comes in front of the lens and starts checking for dust or something. It was like a clown show.
hadenough |
02.09.08 - 5:18 pm | #
Stream just ended. Live feed link on cnn's front page to Washington state caucus. yellin in a tight sweater is standing right in front of the lens stretching and bending, fixing her hair. The camera man comes in front of the lens and starts checking for dust or something. It was like a clown show.
hadenough | 02.09.08 - 5:18 pm | #
So Hitler walks into a room...
watertiger, kodos4prez
You're trying to start one of those flame wars Dad was talking about yesterday, aren't you?
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:19 pm | #
One of the best things about this blog is it isn't all-primary all-the-time......
So Hitler walks into a room...
...and orders the thread occupied with vegetarian Nazis.
NTodd, Fästing Führer |
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02.09.08 - 5:19 pm | #
V for Virginia | 02.09.08 - 5:16 pm
It is. B and I used to perform together. He has a great Johnny Carson sense of humor. He actually has contributed some lines to the Leno show, they don't always buy his stuff because he's actually funny and Leno isn't really that funny these days (at least in my opinion.)
spocko |
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02.09.08 - 5:19 pm | #
What a miserable excuse for a human being that bastard is.
Terry C, Clintonian
ANd aren't they fucking jealous there isn't a single repukkklican spawn with half the chops of Chelsea.
flory
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." - John McCain in 1998 - ccokz
That would make the basis for an ad that should get plenty of airtime. Underline his diplomatic skills. How old was Chelsea then, 15?
bo |
02.09.08 - 5:19 pm | #
Leno isn't really that funny these days (at least in my opinion.)
spocko
Leno hasn't been funny in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:19 pm | #
Wonder how McCain likes them apples. I don't know if I'd like to be the only person between some True Believe fundie and attaining their dream of a theocracy....
jawbone
I don't think the business part of the GOP would put up with two non-corporate types on the ticket.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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02.09.08 - 5:20 pm | #
Did I mention that the Republican's best hope for the future is 72 years old this year?
I forgot if I mentioned that.
MP |
02.09.08 - 5:20 pm | #
What a miserable excuse for a human being that bastard is.
I think we can all agree with that.
I just watched some footage of him on his campaign plane yesterday, talking to reporters.
He says he's an agent of "change" cause he changed the direction in Iraq by pushing for escalation.
BWA HA HA HA HH HAAAH HHAAA!!!
Also he now LURVES him some Karl Rove.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:20 pm | #
i really really dont care how attractive people think the AG is either. all i care about is getting someone that is going to go after the abuses of the last 8 (to be) years.
pretzelattack
have you read that terrifying post at digby? there is no rolling back and there will be no accountability.
nona |
02.09.08 - 5:20 pm | #
spocko | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:19 pm | #
Seemed that, growing up and watching Leno, that his appeal to viewers was that his jokes were so bad. Letterman is way better.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:20 pm | #
The story about the nailed shut door was when Huckabee was lt. gov to a ReThug gov., iirc.
I'm sick to death of the meanness. Chelesea Clinton is one example, torture a larger symptom.
I'm heartened by the voter turnout,though.
noblejoanie |
02.09.08 - 5:20 pm | #
If nothing else in this campaign, we are going to be treated to one hell of a montage of asshole things Huggy Bear has said over the years, all rolled into one awesome political ad.
blerb
You think the Dems have the balls to do that? I don't.
Adam Hominem |
02.09.08 - 5:21 pm | #
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." - John McCain in 1998
ccokz
This quote should be plastered all over every piece of McCain campaign propaganda.
He isn't fit to serve as a shithouse cleaner.
Shaw Kenawe,problemWW |
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02.09.08 - 5:21 pm | #
I'm feeling peckish, where does Thers keep his bacon?
JR, kerosene and a match |
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02.09.08 - 5:21 pm | #
And besides the cussidness of it, she's actually quite pretty.
Fartburgher said she was the White House dog on his show one day.
She's as attractive as any child of a president in my lifetime.
billy b |
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02.09.08 - 5:21 pm | #
That would make the basis for an ad that should get plenty of airtime. Underline his diplomatic skills. How old was Chelsea then, 15?
I guess if H.Clinton wins the nomination, McCain wont get away this easy.
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:21 pm | #
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." - John McCain in 1998 - ccokz
That would make the basis for an ad that should get plenty of airtime. Underline his diplomatic skills. How old was Chelsea then, 15?
bo
Lets not forget that Rush compared her to a dog in 92, when she was 13.
What's your kid looks like, Fucker? Oh, that's right: you have to have sex to be able to have your own unadopted offspring.
Guess you're shit out of luck there, junkie.
Supreme Commander Thor |
02.09.08 - 5:21 pm | #
ANd aren't they fucking jealous there isn't a single repukkklican spawn with half the chops of Chelsea.
flory
have you read that terrifying post at digby? there is no rolling back and there will be no accountability.
nona | 02.09.08 - 5:20 pm | #
i haven't, but i am afraid that is true. i hope it isnt.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:22 pm | #
Huck won't catch McCain, but with luck, he'll push him waaaaaaayyyyy over to the right.
David Derbes, writin' away |
02.09.08 - 5:22 pm | #
you can bet Bob Dole had a hand in this ...
Bob Dole |
02.09.08 - 5:22 pm | #
"Congratulations, Canada, on saving your national Igloo"
JR, kerosene and a match |
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02.09.08 - 5:22 pm | #
Also he now LURVES him some Karl Rove.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
NO self-respect.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:22 pm | #
i really really dont care how attractive people think the AG is either. all i care about is getting someone that is going to go after the abuses of the last 8 (to be) years.
pretzelattack
-------------
As the kids used to say, "Word."
What do the kids say today?
"I agree with your comment. It is quite insightful."
spocko |
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02.09.08 - 5:22 pm | #
bo,
I owe you sumthin'.
Shaw Kenawe,problemWW |
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02.09.08 - 5:22 pm | #
You think the Dems have the balls to do that? I don't.
MoveOn will. Besides, how unseemly could it be just to put him in his own words on the screen, with an occasional rimshot for punctuation? No downside to that.
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
She's as attractive as any child of a president in my lifetime.
billy b | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:21 pm | #
I think she's cute! She had a rough patch when she was a kid, but who didn't? Never understood why people were so rough on her... she must have skin as thick as a brick by now.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
Rush was the product of anal sex.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
He says he's an agent of "change" cause he changed the direction in Iraq by pushing for escalation.
I was having some problems with my booze intake, but they went away once I started drinking twice as much.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
I must be having amnesia, but I could have sworn McCain was against the war way back in the beginning, was causing a big problem for the neocons who had to reign him in, then he started making appearances with the chimp, who would smile and put his hand on McC's shoulder every photo op.
Big surprise there - What is wrong with Kansas indeed...
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02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
If nothing else in this campaign, we are going to be treated to one hell of a montage of asshole things Huggy Bear has said over the years, all rolled into one awesome political ad.
Yep.
I say we give the dem nod to whoever produces the best "John McCain is a big fat asshole" ad and who does the best job of destroying his "straight talk" myth between now and June 1st.
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02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
ANd aren't they fucking jealous there isn't a single repukkklican spawn with half the chops of Chelsea.
flory
meet the huckaboys....
When the Bush twins were in Argentine, they did basically a fuck (despite fuckin round). theses guys come forward all the tiome with their cheap KKK view but if u ask one of them how damaged some dems are due to them they just go Lewinsky. No shit.
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02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
I'm heartened by the voter turnout,though.
noblejoanie
i am too. i prefer to focus on that and i love reading the local accounts -- people are jazzed about the election; regardless of who ends up as the democratic candidate.
nona |
02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." - John McCain in 1998 - ccokz
McStain made that comment at a fund raiser, by the way.
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02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
Why would a sensible person buy a 100 year long war from a 71 year old man?
bo |
02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
So Hitler walks into a room...
And says, "Ich bin so lucky". Eva's putting out. And I have struggled so hard to have sex with her. I guess Arbeit Macht Frei Sex, sh?
leibniz, monadΩ |
02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
Timmeh's Saturday show crowd all agreed that McCain's "Huggy Bear" are going to be all over the airwaves for the general election.
Timmeh or one of them also said it's a mathematical impossibility for there not to be a tie going into the convention.
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
Look, denying a job solely because of age is horseshit.
Unless that job is Chief Executive of the United States.
A 72 year old has no bidness trying out for that position. Seriously.
MP |
02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
she must have skin as thick as a brick by now.
Jake in Milwaukee
That could be partly genetic, too...
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02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
I was having some problems with my booze intake, but they went away once I started drinking twice as much.
He's proving to me that he's just as delusional as the rest of them.
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02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
No downside to that.
blerb | 02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
huge downside when you smear someone, backfires every time
unless you're a thug, of course
el |
02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
Party of AWOLs
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
I'm feeling peckish, where does Thers keep his bacon?
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:21 pm | # [kill]
McCain needs to pad his other cheek and call himself Alvin.
NSA |
02.09.08 - 5:25 pm | #
MoveOn will. Besides, how unseemly could it be just to put him in his own words on the screen, with an occasional rimshot for punctuation? No downside to that.
blerb | 02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
The mccainus msm will figure out some backlash angle on that:
HRC doesn't love her ONLY child enough to protect her from personal attacks. If hrc can't protect her ONLY child, how can she protect 'merica?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.09.08 - 5:26 pm | #
McCain's Chelsea/Reno joke, along with his laugh about his supporter asking "How do we stop the bitch," shows how ReThugs talk among themselves. Real jokesters.
(Uh, what do we sound like? Hhhmm--some of the Liddy Dole comments are pretty ugly.... Make me uncomfortable, at least.)
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 5:26 pm | #
huge downside when you smear someone, backfires every time
Ah.
But here's the beauty. It's not really smearing, it's just pointing out the truth.
You do it politely and firmly.
Negative is twisting something. This would be just letting McCain speak for himself.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:26 pm | #
I'm feeling peckish, where does Thers keep his bacon?
A 72 year old has no bidness trying out for that position. Seriously.
MP | 02.09.08 - 5:24 pm | #
Play up his health - recurring cancer - not his age.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.09.08 - 5:27 pm | #
If Chelsea were a republican, she'd have a weekly column in the Washington Post and would be on your television daily.
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02.09.08 - 5:28 pm | #
smearing cant work for dems as long as the right controls the media. works great for repubs tho.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:28 pm | #
McStain made that comment at a fund raiser, by the way.
Supreme Commander Thor
Mr. Google will happily point you towards a 1998 column at Salon.com by David Corn in which he eviscerates the press for the way it plays favorites... most news agencies, the WaPo NYT and LAT, and all the cable news, if they mentioned the incident at all, said that McCain had made "a tasteless joke" which they would not print. The actual content of the "joke," iirc, was printed only by some local papers and the AP.
SteveLG |
02.09.08 - 5:28 pm | #
Play up his health - recurring cancer - not his age.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 02.09.08 - 5:27 pm | #
Haven't heard anything about it yet in the campaign. Good point.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:28 pm | #
I dunno. It's pretty hard to argue that having your own words put on the screen is an unseemly smear. I don't see how his camp gets any traction with that. It's going to be a bloodbath IMO. "bomb, , bomb bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...."
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:28 pm | #
Yellin must have been dropped on massive haid as a child
Culture of TrÜth |
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02.09.08 - 5:28 pm | #
Play up his health - recurring cancer - not his age.
Nonsense.
Just put up his picture, taken in the most harsh, unflattering light.
People will say, "fuck, he's OLD"
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:28 pm | #
Sigh.
NTodd
I'll share
JR, kerosene and a match |
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02.09.08 - 5:29 pm | #
Ann Coulter will melt away...
THAT'd be big one puddle of toxic waste.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:29 pm | #
McCain's Chelsea/Reno joke, along with his laugh about his supporter asking "How do we stop the bitch," shows how ReThugs talk among themselves. Real jokesters.
you can bet he still talks that way. and i bet anything when he loosens up on those long flights, he's got some juicy comments directed at hillary -- that only makes the press following him love him that much more. and, fortunately for st john the tortured, you'll never hear about those comments.
nona |
02.09.08 - 5:29 pm | #
I was having some problems with my booze intake, but they went away once I started drinking twice as much.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:23 pm | #
I know my capacity, but I always get drunk before I reach it.
ronjazz |
02.09.08 - 5:29 pm | #
Tennessee Tuxedo and Chumly the Walrus '08!
NSA |
02.09.08 - 5:29 pm | #
imo, the dems should show adds where mccain shows his age, photo him from the worst angles, with the worst lighting--like regnery does on all those mass produced smears.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:29 pm | #
Play up his health - recurring cancer - not his age.
How 'bout playing up the fact that he's aping our current occupant in all things policy?
Because nobody's sick of that...
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:29 pm | #
What IS the matter with Kansas?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.09.08 - 5:30 pm | #
What scares ME is who is he going to pick for a running mate?
Heaven forbid if he wins and drops dead in office.........
Terry C, Clintonian | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:27 pm | #
McCain will most likely pick a hard core right winger, to get the fundie wackos back on his side.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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02.09.08 - 5:30 pm | #
What IS the matter with Kansas?
They go bowling alone.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:30 pm | #
smearing cant work for dems as long as the right controls the media. works great for repubs tho.
It's not smearing.
It's the truth.
Run the pictures of him hugging bush over and over and over.
Footage of him singing "bomb,bomb, bomb IRan"
Footage of him saying, "why not 100 years?"
Not smearing, it's the truth.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:30 pm | #
Right, covering up for ReThugs is SOP.
Dasn't let the public know what they're really like. Or what the people really think, unless if serves to fluff. As, for example, not reporting all the protestors at Dear Leader's first inauguration.
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 5:30 pm | #
What IS the matter with Kansas?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
It has absolutely no Elvis in it.
Gomez |
02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
David Shuster rode the Straight Talk Express with McCain in 2000. I'm sure he heard an earful.
Maybe he forgot he was off the bus the other night.
noblejoanie |
02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
A columnist indirectly makes a brilliant suggestion for John McCain's running mate:
Jeb Bush!
Yeah, baby!!!!
Run that picture of John McCain makin' out, gettin' to second base fer shure, with The Decider™! mmmm-WAH, honey!
David Derbes, writin' away |
02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
Show the photo of McCain giving a big bear hug to bushie boy. Over. And. Over. And. Over. And. Over. Repeat Until Dead.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie |
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02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
The mccainus msm will figure out some backlash angle on that:
HRC doesn't love her ONLY child enough to protect her from personal attacks. If hrc can't protect her ONLY child, how can she protect 'merica?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
Whoa.........McCain didn't protect his MUCH YOUNGER adopted child from attacks by Karl Rove in 2000.
Turnabout IS fair play.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
How 'bout playing up the fact that he's aping our current occupant in all things policy?
Because nobody's sick of that...
Zap Rowsdower
Oh, his various Chimperor smooches will have a place of honor in the ads.
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
Does mccainus have a drinking problem? I say yes. His mood swings, his acting out, his unsteady gait. And he's never said he doesn't.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
Toxic waste?
Reminds me of that story The Case of the Toxic-Waste Spell Dump. I think.
SLD Goodale |
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02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
Does this mean the Republicans are about to cock us?
Elias, It's all about meme |
02.09.08 - 5:31 pm | #
imo, the dems should show adds where mccain shows his age, photo him from the worst angles, with the worst lighting--like regnery does on all those mass produced smears.
maybe some kind of futuristic add, like lbjs goldwater add, playing somehow on the idea of the us being in iraq for the next hundred years--a little girl, reminiscing--first my granddaddy died in iraq, then my uncle, and now my daddy. i miss my daddy (a tear falls as the camera moves away to a rubble strewn baghdad).
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:32 pm | #
How 'bout playing up the fact that he's aping our current occupant in all things policy?
How about a big fat graphic showing how he voted WITH chimpy at least 92% of the time?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:32 pm | #
If Chelsea were a republican, she'd have a weekly column in the Washington Post and would be on your television daily.
Somebody even digged out her Edwards joke. ...we could also take a woman instead of him I guess Coulter also will have sonme great time in the upcomin 8 years
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:32 pm | #
Sheesh, just clicked past Fox and saw TxGov Perry asking Huckabee to get out.
noblejoanie |
02.09.08 - 5:32 pm | #
McCain/Cheney '08. There is no law against Cheney running again. And he is running the government. Bush is like Queen Elizabeth II on quaaludes.
leibniz, monadΩ |
02.09.08 - 5:32 pm | #
Speaking of smears, I could go for a bagel right now.
Gomez |
02.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #
I expect mccainus to pick a Hispanic for VP.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #
They put it too close to Texas?
Careful sis.
I woan let U play with Ripleeee no moar.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #
I'm sick to death of the meanness. Chelesea Clinton is one example, torture a larger symptom.
I'm heartened by the voter turnout,though.
noblejoanie |
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I agree. And when we go after meanest and sexism and racism I want people on our side to say, "Good. That really has to stop, especially on the paid levels." instead of 'They have the right to say what they want."
The have the right to stand on the sidewall in front of the federal building and not have the goverment censor them. But they don't have a right to be on a commerical sponsored broadcast TV and radio show. Someone has decided that they are good business. What is hilarious is when they talk about how "nasty" the campaign is. LOOK AT THE LOG IN YOUR OWN EYE!
What do I mean by "That really has to stop, especially on the paid levels" that? If the jerks at Free Republic want to gossip and smear, fine. They are insects in the big picture, but when you have highly paid radio hosts and popular internet sites doing the mean thing then they need to be condemned AND let's help defund them. Because they should be both small and unfunded.
I don't want them lauded and invited to the respectable parties. I don't want decent corporations using them as spokespersons. Then need to be seen as the low level bottom dwellers that they are.
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02.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #
Desperation to win. And one thing KKKarl *has* been good at is winning.
Not sure how well he'd do this year though.
flory
I wonder if Mr. Rove has been asked to help with Congressional races. He probably is astute enough to realize that the presidency is probably not in the cards this time around.
Keeping the Dems from bigger majorities in Congress, however, might be something he could help with.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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02.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #
How about a big fat graphic showing how he voted WITH chimpy at least 92% of the time?
That's what Franken's doing here with Norm! Coleman.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #
This person has a list of some nice things McCain has said over the years.
"Like every other 13-year-old in America, she's in love with Leonardo DiCaprio, who I think is an androgynous wimp. You know what he does throughout the whole movie Titanic? He smokes."
BTW, is McCain using some those wrinkle plumping lotions? Or firming makeup? His face looks less wrinkled lately.
Certainly Hillary is, right? Or is it just really good makeup work?
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #
McCain/Cheney '08. There is no law against Cheney running again. And he is running the government. Bush is like Queen Elizabeth II on quaaludes.
leibniz, monadΩ | 02.09.08 - 5:32 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
It'd add much needed gravitas to the ticket.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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02.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #
I think Hillary is a babe.
Gomez |
02.09.08 - 5:34 pm | #
Sheesh, just clicked past Fox and saw TxGov Perry asking Huckabee to get out.
He's a moron.
And he really, really, really wants to be the VEEP.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:34 pm | #
Cheney for Ambassador to Transylvania; "Teh UnDead Never Rest."
NSA |
02.09.08 - 5:34 pm | #
...no political evolution in Kansas?
Darryl Pearce |
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02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
Sheesh, just clicked past Fox and saw TxGov Perry asking Huckabee to get out.
noblejoanie
Did he mention terrorists? Or the Trans-Texas Corridor?
I'm waiting for him to link that to terrorism, and the Presidential campaign.
Rmj, Theologist |
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02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
McCain/Cheney '08. There is no law against Cheney running again. And he is running the government. Bush is like Queen Elizabeth II on quaaludes.
leibniz, monadΩ
Yeah. That'd go over great with 'swing' voters.
Too really old nutjobs.
They put it too close to Texas?
Careful sis.
I woan let U play with Ripleeee no moar.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
NOES!!!
And u don't even like Texas.....
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
Sheesh, just clicked past Fox and saw TxGov Perry asking Huckabee to get out.
noblejoanie | 02.09.08 - 5:32 pm | #
i think perry wants to be the vp.
pretzelattack |
02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
Sheesh, just clicked past Fox and saw TxGov Perry asking Huckabee to get out
Perry is closet gay.
Gomez |
02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
If he's dumb enough to pick Schmuckabee as his running mate, then his age and health will really work against him in the General. The fundies lurve Huck, but the smokestack indies McCain hopes to steal from Obama ph33r him deeply.
blerb |
02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
Certainly Hillary is, right? Or is it just really good makeup work?
She has good makeup and has likely hired decent lighting guys for her events.
And of course she's actually a quite attractive woman to start with.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
I expect mccainus to pick a Hispanic for VP.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
I don't Alberto Gonzalez would be permitted to run.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
Four way in the Octagon: Clinton, Obama, McCain, and Huckster (wearing El Santo mask).
Are you ready to fight?
NSA |
02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
maybe a facelift, or at least a tuck, besides the creams
el |
02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
Why the hell did Bill say that McCain and Hillary were "close"? To help torpedo him with the GOP? Only thing I can think of...
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
John McCain is a hero, dammit! He defended you twits from the scourge of Vietnamese subsistance farmers!
The Dancing Kid |
02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
Jeesus, even Ron Paul got double digits...
Elias, It's all about meme |
02.09.08 - 5:35 pm | #
BTW, is McCain using some those wrinkle plumping lotions? Or firming makeup? His face looks less wrinkled lately.
Certainly Hillary is, right? Or is it just really good makeup work?
Last two nights Ive seen a commerical on some shopping station for a creme called regain or reclaim.
Time for Total recall with Ahnulf I guess. Is John McCain Heather Locklear or margret Thatcher?
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:36 pm | #
I don't THINK Alberto Gonzalez would be permitted to run.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:36 pm | #
How about a big fat graphic showing how he voted WITH chimpy at least 92% of the time?
Amen. Gotta attack their strengths and his is his perceived "maverick" status. Go after that. He's a Bushie.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.09.08 - 5:36 pm | #
Four way in the Octagon: Clinton, Obama, McCain, and Huckster (wearing El Santo mask).
If someone working on a decade past the retirement age is elevated to the US Presidency, we're always gonna be concerned with whether they'll just die one day because they're really old.
Or worse, pull a Strom Thurmond, and refuse to die, but just make really dementia-driven decisions.
We already went through this with Reagan.
MP |
02.09.08 - 5:36 pm | #
Clinton has McCain's head in a scissorlock!
NSA |
02.09.08 - 5:36 pm | #
And of course she's actually a quite attractive woman to start with.
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wears alot of red, when she and Barry appear together, he just disappears
el |
02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
Though McCain is bald I think. There could be a possible contradiction.
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02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
Why the hell did Bill say that McCain and Hillary were "close"? To help torpedo him with the GOP? Only thing I can think of...
Jake in Milwaukee
Wouldn't surprise me. Bill is being cagey.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
Still waiting on that Maddie video...
noblejoanie |
02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
Keeping the Dems from bigger majorities in Congress, however, might be something he could help with.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
Mebbe. But I suspect KKKarl saw the writing on the wall a looooong time ago and doesn't want to be anywhere near the massacre the repukkkes are headed for this cycle.
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
Clinton has McCain's head in a scissorlock!
Oh no! And here comes Baron Von Raschke with the ringside bell!!!
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
Wouldn't surprise me. Bill is being cagey.
Terry C, Clintonian | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
It's kind of hillarious, if you think about it, when taken into context with the Reno comment...
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
. But I suspect KKKarl saw the writing on the wall a looooong time ago and doesn't want to be anywhere near the massacre the repukkkes are headed for this cycle.
flory
Amen. Gotta attack their strengths and his is his perceived "maverick" status. Go after that. He's a Bushie.
Yes!
Like I said (over and over) tie chimpy around McCain's neck like a rotting chicken.
He's made it easy for us.
There is video of him saying, "no one worked harder to reelect George Bush than I did"
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:38 pm | #
I think Hillary is a babe.
She was looking v. good this week when I saw her. I think a lot is the hair. The style and the color really work for her.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.09.08 - 5:38 pm | #
The biggest issues are the war and the economy. Both are examples of Bushist malgeasance, incompetence, and amorality. They can, and should, be hung around McCain's neck. It McCain tries to distance himself from Bush, that cuts into his base. If not, well, the country will show him the door.
And I con't see McCain getting through a presidential campaign without a contretemps or two referable to his temper.
ProfWombat |
02.09.08 - 5:39 pm | #
Clinton has McCain's head in a scissorlock!
Oh no! And here comes Baron Von Raschke with the ringside bell!!!
Zap Rowsdower
Gonna give him the Bobo Brazil coconut!
noblejoanie |
02.09.08 - 5:39 pm | #
McCain would look better if he would guild his head gold and wear one of his trademark gay sweaters.
NSA |
02.09.08 - 5:39 pm | #
She was looking v. good this week when I saw her. I think a lot is the hair. The style and the color really work for her.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:38 pm | #
She's aging well. I'm sure a lot of women would love to look that good at 60.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:39 pm | #
And I con't see McCain getting through a presidential campaign without a contretemps or two referable to his temper.
ProfWombat
Or the fact he'd be happy to stay in Iraq for 100 years.
Rmj, Theologist |
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02.09.08 - 5:39 pm | #
Still waiting on that Maddie video...
Got home late last night and she wasn't in a fetching mood.
Right now she's sacked out.
I promise tonight.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:40 pm | #
I think Hillary is a babe.
She was looking v. good this week when I saw her. I think a lot is the hair. The style and the color really work for her.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Yes, they do.
And she looks FABULOUS in red!
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:40 pm | #
Or worse, pull a Strom Thurmond, and refuse to die
I use to pull a Strom Thurmond. In the senate office. He liked to dress up in his civil war uniform, whip out his dick, and tell me to lick the armies of the northern aggression.
-Liddy Dole, Senate Annals on Senate Ejaculations, Vo. CVII.
bebe rebozo |
02.09.08 - 5:40 pm | #
She was looking v. good this week when I saw her. I think a lot is the hair. The style and the color really work for her.
I think they should switch the shoppin station to some french hair dying product. how to become red for t. kennedy. More input for kerrys ketchup production
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:40 pm | #
The biggest issues are the war and the economy. Both are examples of Bushist malgeasance, incompetence, and amorality. They can, and should, be hung around McCain's neck. It McCain tries to distance himself from Bush, that cuts into his base. If not, well, the country will show him the door.
And, as Atrios linked to last night, more and more Americans are finally tying them together (economy & Iraq).
If McCain wants to run on failed policies, let 'em.
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02.09.08 - 5:40 pm | #
Baron von Raschke and the Iron Claw!!! Yeaaaaaahg.
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02.09.08 - 5:40 pm | #
KKKarl saw the writing on the wall a looooong time ago and doesn't want to be anywhere near the massacre the repukkkes are headed for this cycle.
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knocking on wood, I just wonder what outrageous and totally transparently false "revelation" the swiftboat pukes will come up with this time.
Obama has already outed himself about coke and weed use, what's left unless they go after hill's investments
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02.09.08 - 5:40 pm | #
Clinton has McCain's head in a scissorlock!
Oh no! And here comes Baron Von Raschke with the ringside bell!!!
Zap Rowsdower
Gonna give him the Bobo Brazil coconut!
noblejoanie
I keep seeing Harrison Ford and Darryl Hannah, morphing into McCain and Clinton.
She was looking v. good this week when I saw her. I think a lot is the hair. The style and the color really work for her.
It's really superficial, but looks are important, and she's been smart enough to pay close attention to that.
I'm not always thrilled with her clothing choices, but generally she looks great.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:41 pm | #
I promise tonight.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
U iz gotz lotz of witnesses......
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:41 pm | #
Wouldn't surprise me. Bill is being cagey.
Terry C, Clintonian | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:37 pm | #
It's kind of hillarious, if you think about it, when taken into context with the Reno comment...
Jake in Milwaukee
Well, the MSM didn't publicize the Reno comment. The Base doesn't know about.
So, if Bill's comments put them off McCain even more, that's okay with me.
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02.09.08 - 5:41 pm | #
I'm not always thrilled with her clothing choices, but generally she looks great.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:41 pm | #
Yeah, the pantsuit from NH was a little blah...
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:42 pm | #
A meverick isn't the same thing as a loco-weed chompin' old steer.
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02.09.08 - 5:42 pm | #
Fourlegs? I actually posted an update on my pets at my homepage!
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02.09.08 - 5:42 pm | #
And she looks FABULOUS in red!
She does. She should wear it all the time.
Obama looks great too. His suits are fabulous- great tailoring.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | #
Thought teh Maverick was liked in them thar parts; didn't he wrangle some there? Not rump wranglin', Sen. Craig.
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02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | #
I'm relieved to find out that I'm not the only one who finds Hillary CLinton attractive. Fact is, I can come up with disgareements with her, but I bloody like the woman, at long last...
ProfWombat |
02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | #
Hmm. No comments in general on what the male candidates wear.
leibniz, monadΩ |
02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | #
what's left unless they go after hill's investments
el
I think they already tried that one.
I'm not always thrilled with her clothing choices, but generally she looks great.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
I think she dresses quite appropriately for her age and coloring.
And I can't believe we're talking about her clothes.
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | #
I'm not always thrilled with her clothing choices, but generally she looks great.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
THEN there's Mrs. Huckabee.
And Cindy McCain....who looks SO over-boxtoxed she reminds me of a younger Joan Rivers.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | #
I think she looks better now than when she was younger. Rare to find that.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
ccokz
They've got nothing. They're all about the sanctity of marriage, but they hate Hillary for staying married to Bill. They want to make it illegal for gays to marry, but serial monogamy for them is just A-OK.
Sick pups.
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
Imagine Hillary in fundie wacko country saying about McCain...
"I've worked with Sen McCain. You'd be surprised at how many things we agree on.."
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
leibniz: Hmm. No comments in general on what the male candidates wear.
I bought new shoos.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
wtf, pantsuit chat? did i stumble into WaPo comments by mistake?
kidlacan |
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
Fourlegs? I actually posted an update on my pets at my homepage!
THat's fucking hilarious.
I told my sis in law at christmas about your puppy. She wuz so jealous.
She'd love to have another cocker puppy.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
Huckster wearing a burlap bag would look appropriate.
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
Obama has already outed himself about coke and weed use, what's left unless they go after hill's investments
Chelsea. Michelle. Obama's foreign relatives. Some absolutely made-up crap about Obama's affair w/ a white woman. Bill's supposed still-going affairs. Obama forged his HLS law review article. Hillary has breast cancer and is keeping it secret. Continual games w/ the similarities between the names Barack Hussein Obama and Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Believe me, the Republicans already have files full of shit ready to go on both Democratic candidates and all the likely vp candidates.
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
Obama looks great too. His suits are fabulous- great tailoring.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | # [kill]
That's what'll cost him the election. Maureen Dowd and Nancy Benac and Nedra Pickler will write dozens of investigative columns on how much his clothes cost.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
And Cindy McCain....who looks SO over-boxtoxed she reminds me of a younger Joan Rivers.
Terry C, Clintonian | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | #
And so doped up on Xanax she's practically falling off the stage...
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:44 pm | #
This Huckabee win in Kansas just points out the angst the Republican Party is experiencing in that state. Haven't there been widespread defections of Rethugs to Ind and Dem? The GOP is in crisis. What's left in the Repug Party in Kansas is the die-harders. Or at least so I hope...
Ned Pepper |
02.09.08 - 5:45 pm | #
Sorry, BOTOXED.
Not boxtoxed.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:45 pm | #
Well, William Jefferson Clinton had great suits all the time. They didnt shine like GWB's. He didnt look this flimsy. But then he had this Lewinsky problem all of a sudden. How 2put it... jealousy?
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:45 pm | #
wtf, pantsuit chat? did i stumble into WaPo comments by mistake?
kidlacan
This is actually the all-Ariel channel.....
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:45 pm | #
And I can't believe we're talking about her clothes.
Well, if she was badly dressed or had bad hair the rethugs would certainly be talking about it.
Cindy McCain is carrying around more toxin in her face than 3 Man O' Wars.
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02.09.08 - 5:45 pm | #
Obama has already outed himself about coke and weed use, what's left unless they go after hill's investments
el
While there may be no "there" there, Obama's relationship with Rezko may provide a platform for the slime mold. There was nothing to Whitewater, either.
Though Bush is politically totally black... take Iraq
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:46 pm | #
She's aging well. I'm sure a lot of women would love to look that good at 60.
Jake in Milwaukee
Um, that's a pretty insensitive remark, you know? It assumes that once a woman hits 60 she turns into an ugly hag.
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02.09.08 - 5:46 pm | #
Meh, nothing wrong with a little silly talk about fashion and makeup. Takes the edge off.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:46 pm | #
And Cindy McCain....who looks SO over-botoxed she reminds me of a younger Joan Rivers.
Terry C, Clintonian | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 5:43 pm | #
And so doped up on Xanax she's practically falling off the stage...
Jake in Milwaukee
Either Xanax.....or listening to McCain's speeches.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:46 pm | #
Sigh.
NTodd
Yeah, well,
I think that when it comes time to debate the Republicans on TeeBee, whoever it is should wear a clown suit.
So you might not want me making these dicisions.
JR, kerosene and a match |
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02.09.08 - 5:46 pm | #
Some Bushes are totally black.
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02.09.08 - 5:46 pm | #
They're Merrill's. Never heard of 'em, but I had to be at 2525 to pick up timesheets, and I wandered into the DFH store: Birkenstocks.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:47 pm | #
Well, certainly not intentionally so. Point being, she looks good.
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:47 pm | #
I guarantee you that, somewhere in this great country of ours, someone is carrying around a fair amount of Scaife's, or similar's, money, looking for a white vagina Obama defiled with his huge nigger cock. Not to mention Hillary's secret abortion of Vince Foster's love child.
We'll hear it. We need to fight back when we do. That's why Shuster's important.
ProfWombat |
02.09.08 - 5:47 pm | #
Um, that's a pretty insensitive remark, you know? It assumes that once a woman hits 60 she turns into an ugly hag.
You hazn't been to Texas lately- a lot of women here hit hag status at 50.
I think Cindy McCain had a stroke a couple of years ago, which may have affected her facial muscles, so it might not be a good idea to start analyzing her looks in public.
Ned Pepper |
02.09.08 - 5:47 pm | #
fourlegsgood: You hazn't been to Texas lately- a lot of women here hit hag status at 50.
Or, for the Derbyshires out there, 20.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:48 pm | #
So, all of you ladies recognize that us guys are panicked over what to wear at Eschacon. We screw up and WT, RIL and Hecate will be all over us like a cheap you-know-what.
Gromit |
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02.09.08 - 5:48 pm | #
oh brrrrr -- -40/-50 with wind chill in mpls.
nona |
02.09.08 - 5:48 pm | #
And WTF is up with Cindy McCain's hairdo?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:48 pm | #
It assumes that once a woman hits 60 she turns into an ugly hag.
Diane C.
Guys turn into hags earlier.
JR, kerosene and a match |
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02.09.08 - 5:48 pm | #
Um, that's a pretty insensitive remark, you know? It assumes that once a woman hits 60 she turns into an ugly hag.
You hazn't been to Texas lately- a lot of women here hit hag status at 50.
Sad to say, Britney at 20 something.
leibniz, monadΩ |
02.09.08 - 5:48 pm | #
dude, i thought hag-status hit around 30. at least that's what the pandagon link suggested yesterday. like in Logan's Run.
kidlacan |
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02.09.08 - 5:49 pm | #
I think Cindy McCain had a stroke a couple of years ago, which may have affected her facial muscles, so it might not be a good idea to start analyzing her looks in public.
Fair enough.
But that doesn't explain the ridiculous beehive hairdo.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:49 pm | #
So, all of you ladies recognize that us guys are panicked over what to wear at Eschacon. We screw up and WT, RIL and Hecate will be all over us like a cheap you-know-what.
Gromit
though bacardi is also available in black. not just johnie walker
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:51 pm | #
looking for a white vagina Obama defiled with his huge nigger cock.
Why not Hillary? It'd kill two birds with one stone. Plus, they could add that she'd gotten an abortion.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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02.09.08 - 5:51 pm | #
Would that be a bad thing?
Marcellina
Hadn't looked at it from that perspective...
Gromit |
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02.09.08 - 5:51 pm | #
Screw that!
I'm going with what I always wear: lumberjack/slacker alt-country chic!
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:51 pm | #
I'm, oddly, finding that fair numbers of women age well as I age myself.
Perhaps that's a coincidence. But it fits OK, somehow.
ProfWombat
I've wondered if the reason we all need reading glasses as we age is so our SOs continue to stay lovely, at least in our eyes.
noblejoanie |
02.09.08 - 5:52 pm | #
In Scotland, if you are carrying 2 sheep under your arms, they call you a pimp.
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02.09.08 - 5:52 pm | #
fourlegsgood: As a baby she looked like a Mandrake root.
Is that what that was in Eraserhead?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:52 pm | #
I, of course, believe in using their own words against them. It can be very successful. Then when you do that they have to go to their next level of defense.
"It's out of context" so you show the context.
"It's old." Then you show current comments.
"It's not what I meant" show why it is exactly what they meant.
"I have apologized." (Did he every apologize?"
"They are picking on me because...(they hate freedom), (they hate conseratives), (they are afraid of me)"
"I don't talk like that anymore" show recent examples
----------------Or
"I said it and it was a joke. Can't you people take a joke!" Really? Here are some other "jokes" that aren't funny. Did you really need to go there with that joke?
"They pick on me all the time talking about my looks. You should see the hate mail I get. The attacks on me."
The attacks on your are not relevant. But if you want to look at those attacks, who did they come from? Karl Rove? George Bush funded people? And what did you do when they attacked your wife for alledgedly having sex with a black man? You excused it and embraced the people who were responsible for it instead of defending them. What does that say about you, that you care more about your power than defending the honor of your wife.
"They attack me and my kids too! Remember what happened in South Caroline." See above.
So when we respond and use these comments we also need to look down 2 or three steps down the road and knock a hole in his counter arguments. That is important because you KNOW that they will have a response prepared. We need to have a response to their response prepared and even the next level down because they will be thinking two communications steps ahead we need to think three.
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02.09.08 - 5:52 pm | #
So, all of you ladies recognize that us guys are panicked over what to wear at Eschacon. We screw up and WT, RIL and Hecate will be all over us like a cheap you-know-what.
VINCE FOSTER DIED IN A BOTCHED MAN-ABORTION PERFORMED BY HILLARY ON OBAMA'S GAY LOVE CHILD
kidlacan, hagtastic |
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02.09.08 - 5:54 pm | #
The Herb Tarlek School of Design
JR, kerosene and a match |
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02.09.08 - 5:54 pm | #
Kansas hearts Huckabee.
When will McCain drop out of the race now that even Republicans won't vote for him?
Isn't his running dividing the Republicans in a year they need to be united?
Are Republicans ready to vote for a candidate who actually served in Viet Nam?
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02.09.08 - 5:54 pm | #
alt-country is so 2003.
I've been wearing bib-overalls and flat-billed caps for the past ten years. I ain't afraid of no trends.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:54 pm | #
Is that what that was in Eraserhead?
Harry Potter.
Chamber of Secrets.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:54 pm | #
And WTF is up with Cindy McCain's hairdo?
Either the beehive is hiding a Nefertiti-like conehead, or she's an Amy Winehouse wannabe.
md (super) 80 |
02.09.08 - 5:54 pm | #
goddamn. there are certain angles of photographing st john and his left side had a huge bulge in his cheek. his is a very ill man. once this campaign really gets rolling, i suspect his age/health will become something that can't be ignored.
nona |
02.09.08 - 5:55 pm | #
JeffCo, do you realize how many polyesters DIED to make that suite?
Not to mention the baby naugas slaughtered for the shoes.
JeffCO |
02.09.08 - 5:55 pm | #
I know some mighty gorgeous women in their 50s and 60s, more beautiful than in their twenties. They have laugh lines and sparkley silver hair and they can out-ski, out-kayak and out-drink women half their age.
noblejoanie |
02.09.08 - 5:55 pm | #
Gromit. I will have to bring the shirt that I brought at Quarks in Janurary. I has an arrow pointing to the right and it says, "I'm with illogical." I'll wear in and stand next to TKK. (maybe it will make Athenae like me better than him...)
spocko |
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02.09.08 - 5:55 pm | #
When's the bet on the first time someone hears that Hillary and Barak are, y'know, making whoopee?
ProfWombat |
02.09.08 - 5:55 pm | #
Huckster has a cheek bulge, but there's just a big chaw of baccy in dere.
NSA |
02.09.08 - 5:56 pm | #
Ann Coulter is a hateful person. In fact, she has made a ton of money contributing nothing to our Experiment other than being hateful.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to fuck her.
MP |
02.09.08 - 5:56 pm | #
It's Spocko vs. Rove tonight on Celebrity Deathmatch! A lefty fresh from the wilderness and a known election gobbling giant of the past together at last in what for one of them will be the final arena!
catalexis |
02.09.08 - 5:56 pm | #
They have laugh lines and sparkley silver hair and they can out-ski, out-kayak and out-drink women half their age.
There's a mimi joke in there somewhere, but I just can't find it...
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 5:56 pm | #
goddamn. there are certain angles of photographing st john and his left side had a huge bulge in his cheek.
That's where he stores his nuts.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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02.09.08 - 5:56 pm | #
Why not Hillary? It'd kill two birds with one stone.
And give them another ad.
"Obama kills birdies with his big black cock"
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:56 pm | #
McCain now losing his train of thought.
Can't remember the word 'conservative."
Culture of TrÜth |
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02.09.08 - 5:56 pm | #
Which could explain her bitterness.
flory |
02.09.08 - 5:57 pm | #
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Gromit |
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02.09.08 - 5:57 pm | #
new thread
Jake in Milwaukee |
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02.09.08 - 5:57 pm | #
interesting to contrast the crowds of supporters and their level of enthusiasm. mccain speaking before supporters in kansas and it's not nearly as energized as what was shown from democratic assemblies in washington.
nona |
02.09.08 - 5:57 pm | #
Remember McCain had/has skin cancer and had a major operation for it on the side of his face a couple of years ago. That coupled with the scars he still carries from Nam means yes his health must be a concern. Still, isn't he the least scary of all the Republicans?
Ned Pepper |
02.09.08 - 5:57 pm | #
What the fxxx up with mrs.MCCains hairdoer?
They should get the laureate dying... ah Loreal dying formula
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 5:57 pm | #
When's the bet on the first time someone hears that Hillary and Barak are, y'know, making whoopee?
ProfWombat | 02.09.08 - 5:55 pm | #
My guess is at 5:55pm today. What do I win?
catalexis |
02.09.08 - 5:57 pm | #
"You'll never go wrong with one of these bad boys."
awesome! but mine will be pink, because i'm gonna raise holy hell for the cspan cameras.
jdw |
02.09.08 - 5:57 pm | #
You'll never go wrong with one of these bad boys.
JeffCO
Love those white shoes!
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:58 pm | #
McCain now losing his train of thought.
Can't remember the word 'conservative."
He's just so appalling.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.09.08 - 5:58 pm | #
I know some mighty gorgeous women in their 50s and 60s, more beautiful than in their twenties.
If one of them is Isabelle Adjani, please send her my regards.
JeffCO |
02.09.08 - 5:58 pm | #
Still, isn't he the least scary of all the Republicans?
Ned Pepper |
No.
They're all pretty fucked up, each in their own individual way.
Terry C, Clintonian |
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02.09.08 - 5:59 pm | #
When's the bet on the first time someone hears that Hillary and Barak are, y'know, making whoopee?
ProfWombat | 02.09.08 - 5:55 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
If movies and TV shows have taught us anything, it's that men and women who bicker a lot at first will end up fucking.
It's almost as ironclad as the rule that says a black cop and a white cop will learn to respect each other while battling an international drug cartel.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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02.09.08 - 6:00 pm | #
Terry C
I disagree
If Mann Coulter and James Dobson say they hate McCain, he must be at least better than Huck and Mooney, oops, Romney. No?
Ned Pepper |
02.09.08 - 6:04 pm | #
You'll never go wrong with one of these bad boys.
JeffCO
Hubba HUBBA!
V for Virginia |
02.09.08 - 6:05 pm | #
ccokz
They've got nothing. They're all about the sanctity of marriage, but they hate Hillary for staying married to Bill. They want to make it illegal for gays to marry, but serial monogamy for them is just A-OK.
Sick pups. Terry C
I disagree
If Mann Coulter and James Dobson say they hate McCain, he must be at least better than Huck and Mooney, oops, Romney. No?
I guess from the standpoint of evolution they got the clearest proof in Kansas yet the a couple consists of a male and a female being. For Republicans.
ccokz |
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02.09.08 - 6:06 pm | #
I would really like to know what they know about the McCain South Carolina push pollsters in 2000.
"Would you be more or less likely to vote for John McCain if you knew he had an illegitimate black child.?"
When I get a push poll I ask questions.
"Who is the company you work for?" "where are you calling from, what city, state"
"Who is this for" (they usually can't answer that)
But with that data I could have found out WHO did the push polling and then WHO paid for it. The trail might end their, but maybe not. McCain would have been able to know that a 527 who supports Bush was behind it. And that 527 go their marching orders from a Bush croney. Does that mean Rove did it? No. But nobody in the Bush camp said "STOP IT! That is NOT how we roll." and that tells you that they have tacit approval of it.
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02.09.08 - 6:07 pm | #
Jamison Foser agrees that Hillary Clinton wants systemic change at MSNBC concerning how the male on air talent talk about women--not that she wants Shuster fired.
I think TPM has gone into defensive mode over the male talent at MSNBC.
But that's just me--Foser writes less emotionally.
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02.09.08 - 9:27 pm | #
MSNBC has turned Matthews' purported apology into a promotional campaign, using clips of his statement to advertise MSNBC programming. Not the parts of the statement in which he acknowledged having been "callous," "nasty," and "dismissive" toward Hillary Clinton, of course -- the parts in which he spoke of his love for politics.
Turning a forced apology into a promotional campaign seems like a pretty good sign that MSNBC and Matthews don't "get it" at all.
But it isn't the best sign. Consider what else has happened during MSNBC broadcasts since Matthews' apology.
First, Matthews' MSNBC colleagues leapt to his defense. Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough and reporter David Shuster lashed out; Scarborough declaring it "offensive" and "outrageous" that Matthews had to apologize, and Shuster adding "this is absolutely infuriating, to see the way these groups used him for pure political gain is absolutely infuriating."...