I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarStandard reasoning for Republicans.

Good Saturday morning to all.


GravatarHow Many Deaths Will It Take...???


GravatarIt's largely driven by a refusal to acknowledge strategic reality when it conflicts with your BS "warrior self image".


GravatarGreat. It's the "fuck you!" war.


GravatarREPUKES SUPPORT THR WAR...CAUSE SOME ARE GETTING FILTHY RICH, apparently not Ponyblow....musta mist the memo


GravatarI are pissed of liberal.

Can I get TV time please?

"NO, get off my lawn you punk." is all I get.


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GravatarWish I were at a 3-day-long wedding in Spain...


GravatarPisses off "liberals"?

That's a statement fit for a horses ass.

To quote P. Simon: "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore".

Our institutions force us to dance to the tunes of madmen. The term liberal (whatever that means) is meaningless, superfluous in any decent context.

We the people of the USA unleashed hell upon Them the people of Iraq for the sake of a calculated, Big Lie.

Grow the fuck up.


Gravatarafternoon moonbats


Gravatar[[[[[[[[[[[[BARRY]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst


Youse repeats yourselfs.


GravatarIm having a flood
dumbass plumber connected ice maker,and it is Angel Falls here
aiiiiiiiight!@#$%^&*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarThe Bushboy/Gooper legacy: Death, debt and destruction, all on a horrific scale and all avoidable if Bushboy wasn't so depraved and the Goopers weren't so malicious.

The hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq (including Americans and Iraqis)would not have happened if not for Bushboy's insane invasion.

The record climb in US debt would not have occurred without Bushboy's tax cuts for the rich, which has cut federal revenue, couple with huge increases in War and Defense spending, all of which was totally unnecessary and irresponsible.

And the destruction of what was the country of Iraq goes on as it continues to fracture into sectarian areas after ethnic cleansing by the majority group, while the destruction of New Orleans remains largely unaddressed and the destruction or deterioration of our infrastructure receives the same negligent treatment from the Bushboy regime.


Gravatar[[[[[[[[[[[[BARRY]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst

Youse repeats yourselfs.

Barry from Alaska | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 7:53 am | #

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GravatarIm having a flood
dumbass plumber connected ice maker,and it is Angel Falls here
aiiiiiiiight!@#$%^&*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst


Cannot fix the flood, but you need my fans to dry out the place afterward?


GravatarHa!

In a lengthy e-mail to supporters, ALRA head Chuck Cushman accused police of "ambushing" Craig, and said the airport has "effectively declared war on the West." Craig's behavior was profiled by police and they arrested him "even though he never did anything wrong," Cushman wrote.

"Frankly, I’ve been in that Minnesota airport many times. Virtually everything Senator Craig did, I have done," Cushman told ALRA members in an e-mail. "I have a medical problem that means I must find a usable stall quickly. I’ve looked in stalls. I always take my roller bag in the stall with me. I’ve actually made noise outside a stall to encourage the person inside to move along as fast as possible."


GravatarIm having a flood
dumbass plumber connected ice maker,and it is Angel Falls here
aiiiiiiiight!@#$%^&*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sittenpretty,VONAGE the Worst

Cannot fix the flood, but you need my fans to dry out the place afterward?
Barry from Alaska | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 7:55 am | #

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ceiling tiles popping out ALL OVER THE PLACE(basement)


GravatarALRA. Hmmm...

Association of Lewd Restroom Activities?


GravatarEverything considered, I think I'd rather be having an afternoon tapa with Duncan in Spain about now.




GravatarHe's probably already working on the second bottle of rioja.


Gravatar"I have a medical problem that means I must find a usable stall quickly.

And that would be ... IBS or priapism?


GravatarGoopers are to America's body politic, what the HIV virus is to the human body. Debilitating, destructive and deadly.

Goopers are the enemy of the people, but the MSM is keeping it quiet, because the owners of the MSM are charter members of the Gooper Party.


GravatarProbably true, but have you got a link?

--Kibitzr


Gravatar
Grow the fuck up.


Ah, yet another victim of the compulsory Eschaton syndrome.

After the 2004 election, a lot of people posted their pics to a website called "We're sorry, World." Like a lot of people, I wondered if I could have done more, somewhere else, to change the election. This was immediately met by a site called "We're Not Sorry," featuring many many people, almost all white, posing with their shotguns.

I'm sorry, but the "piss off a liberal" meme is operative.


GravatarPolice could lose the power to keep DNA samples taken from suspects who have been cleared of any wrongdoing, in a landmark case which is to be decided by the highest court in Europe.

A ruling against the British Government could lead to the destruction of tens of thousands of DNA and fingerprint materials as well as deal a severe blow to any plans to create a universal genetic database.

The challenge at the European Court of Human Rights is being brought by a teenager, known as S, who was arrested and charged with attempted robbery aged 11 in 2001, and Michael Marper, from Sheffield, who was arrested on harassment charges, aged 38, in the same year. Both were cleared and have no criminal records.


http://news.independent.co.uk/ uk...icle2941849.ece


GravatarAnd that would be ... IBS or priapism?



GravatarApparently, Craig's daughter has been busted for violating a warrant. She broke into her ex's house and ripped up a bunch of pics during their divorce, then didn't show for her court date.

The Boise police didn't connect her to Craig until she appeared on TV defending him.


GravatarHey, Barry - what do you know about that Anchorage psychedelic noise underground scene?


GravatarAs NBC News and KO showed last night, the Iraqi "government" (forgive the euphemism) is irredeemably corrupt.

Attempts by the highest legal officer to hold corrupt government officials accountable have been thwarted by the Maliki government and the officer is now seeking legal asylum in the USA.

The corrupt government officials have stolen US taxpayer money meant to rebuild Iraq and put it in the Swiss Bank pockets.

And Maliki refuses to answer the charges and the waste of lives and money goes on with Bushboy lying about "Kicking their asses!"


GravatarThe Pop's in Zell, Austria, speaking about birth control - said, "The world will be a bleak place without more children."


GravatarHey, Barry - what do you know about that Anchorage psychedelic noise underground scene?
dave™©


Nueze to me.


GravatarNueze to me.

Wow, man... you used to be all about the music...


GravatarSay, Trademark Dave, don't you have out-of-state guests this weekend?


GravatarApparently, Craig's daughter has been busted for violating a warrant. She broke into her ex's house and ripped up a bunch of pics during their divorce, then didn't show for her court date.

The Boise police didn't connect her to Craig until she appeared on TV defending him.
Molly Ivors


Shit, she's like minor player, look at his stepson.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/s...=3573171& page=1


GravatarThe Boise police didn't connect her to Craig until she appeared on TV defending him.
Molly Ivors


Craig's son is a wife beater. Typical GOP "family values" family.


GravatarWow, man... you used to be all about the music...
dave™©


I drove my car off the levee.

Music died.


Gravatar...don't you have out-of-state guests this weekend?

The big Meet-n-Greet is today!

The lovely watertiger met my lovely wife yesterday... love was all around!


GravatarThe lovely watertiger met my lovely wife yesterday... love was all around!
dave™©


NO FLIRTING


GravatarFirst thing I thought when I read this:

Short skirt gets passenger kicked off plane

SAN DIEGO – A 23-year-old woman who boarded a Southwest Airlines plane in a short skirt for a flight to Arizona says she was led off the plane for wearing an outfit that was considered too skimpy.

Kyla Ebbert said a Southwest employee asked her to leave her seat while the plane was preparing to leave San Diego's Lindbergh Field on July 3.

Ebbert, a student who was headed to Tucson for a doctor's appointment, said Friday on NBC's "Today" show that the employee told her she would have to catch a later flight.

"You're dressed inappropriately. This is a family airline. You're too provocative to fly on this plane," she quoted the employee as saying.

"I said, 'What part is it? The shirt? The skirt? Which part?' And he said the whole thing.''

Ebbert was eventually allowed back on the plane after offering to adjust her sweater but said she was humiliated and embarrassed.


was, What, they don't have doctors in San Diego?

Oh, and good morning.


GravatarConservative officials have drafted an emergency election manifesto in the face of continuing evidence that Gordon Brown may call an autumn election, the Guardian has learned.

The party admits it is having to short-circuit normal procedure for fear David Cameron will be left exposed by an election that could be called within three weeks.

The draft is said by those who have seen it to be a sharp distillation of the party's six main policy papers. It was demanded by Mr Cameron before a Populus poll this week calmed some Tory nerves by showing Mr Brown had a lead of a single point. The Tories had planned to prepare a draft programme next year.


http://politics.guardian.co.uk/ c...2164998,00.html


Gravatarwas, What, they don't have doctors in San Diego?

Oh, and good morning.
Moe Szyslak


First thing I thought of Moe was.. Southwest, the company that was built on young hotties in hot pants... now having some gay gate agent ( no offense ) telling people how to dress, how ironic.


GravatarMadeline L'Engle dead at 88...


GravatarSAN DIEGO – A 23-year-old woman who boarded a Southwest Airlines plane in a short skirt for a flight to Arizona says she was led off the plane for wearing an outfit that was considered too skimpy.

There's no such thing.


GravatarChina's concubines have struck again. A corrupt senior official in Shaanxi province has been brought down by his 11 mistresses, according to reports in the state media yesterday.

Pang Jiayu, the former deputy head of the provincial political advisory body, has been sacked and expelled from the Communist party after his former girlfriends exposed him, the People's Daily said.

As at least the fourth cadre to lose his job in the past year as a result of accusations from "second wives", Pang's case has prompted a flurry of reports in the domestic media about the resurgence of China's ancient concubine culture among corrupt officials.

According to one recent survey, 90% of the senior officials convicted of serious corruption in the past five years kept mistresses. In many cases, they are accused of abusing their positions to make enough money to shower their lovers with gifts.

It is hard to separate the salacious stories from political point scoring, but when a victim falls from grace, the accusations in the local media fly thick and fast.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/ ...2164917,00.html


GravatarWow.

Craig told the newspaper then that "I'm not gay, and I don't cruise, and I don't hit on men." He added that he doesn't "go around anywhere hitting on men, and by God, if I did, I wouldn't do it in Boise, Idaho! Jiminy!"


GravatarI see Bushy and Harpo have adopted that "energy intensity" bullshit as official policy now.


GravatarOK, time for breakfast and then a short nap.

First, however, a blogwhore:

Somebody should tell the Director of the CIA that whining is unbecoming


GravatarRepublican support for this war is largely driven by their understanding that its continuation really pisses off liberals.

Most of the support for Bush is motivated by the fact that liberals are so outraged by him.


GravatarNot Exactly a Shock: Gordon of 'NYT' Offers Defense of 'Surge' Progress

NEW YORK Michael R. Gordon, whose articles have continually backed the U.S. involvement in Iraq -- going back to his faulty WMD reporting before the war -- appears on Saturday with another major piece given prominent play by The New York Times.

Gordon's looks at the much-disputed numbers on the alleged drop in violence and death in Iraq since the "surge" began and comes out on the side of those who claim much progress. The numbers, however, have drawn criticism from many others at rival news outlets in the past week.
http:// www.editorandpublisher.co...t_id=1003637224


GravatarRepublican support for this war is largely driven by their understanding that its continuation really pisses off liberals.

Not correct. that's only an interesting sideshow for them, but not a driver. current republican drivers for the supporting bush's war are:

1) they love to exercise power through violent force.
2) their egos won't let them admit they were wrong to invade or that the use of force failed.
3) Greed, i.e., they must have control over the 2nd largest known oil reserve
4) delusions of grandeur where they think they are reenacting the great war.
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GravatarMorning all.

How fares the Republic, as if I didn't know?


Gravatarback again, morning again, all.

Diane just doesn't accept that torture is in the nation's best interests, sorry, Dir. Hayden - at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/


GravatarMorning, all

Good company, I see.


GravatarMost of the support for Bush --

Ooooooh, that formidable 25% of the public that are out-and-out morons. They're scary!


GravatarA UK social atlas suggests that British society is becoming more segregated by class, researchers have said.

A team from Sheffield University compared more than 1,000 neighbourhoods across Britain using data on subjects like health, education and housing.

Changing social status is represented on the map, published on Monday.

Report author Dr Bethan Thomas said it showed that "where you live can limit or assist your life chances from the cradle to the grave".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/69.../uk/ 6984707.stm


Gravatarsteve,
I watched that Edie Brickell video, but the New Bohemians don't seem to have a keyboard player....


GravatarSAN DIEGO – A 23-year-old woman who boarded a Southwest Airlines plane in a short skirt for a flight to Arizona says she was led off the plane for wearing an outfit that was considered too skimpy.

There's no such thing.
Lime Rickey | 09.08.07 - 8:17 am | #


Now you're sounding like the males on ABC comment board.

I think SW overreacted and didn't handle it in a professional manner.

I also think folks should remember that an airline isn't Hooters or college, and dress a little more modestly. Besides, exposing your skin doesn't necessarily make you sexy, and covering it up doens't make you unsexy.


GravatarThe Pop's in Zell, Austria

Zell!?

ZELL!?

Der Weisse Engel ist hier!


GravatarHi ho, Steverino!

You showed up just in time to see me go back to bed...


GravatarThey're scary!

Well, they are kind of, because they're crazy.


Gravatar1) they love to exercise power through violent force.

As long as someone else is applying the force.


Gravatarso diane beat me to it.

torture is good, truthtelling is bad for your country.

These people are seriously insane, and evil.

And it's harder to sell when you're winning the war for poverty.


GravatarI watched that Edie Brickell video, but the New Bohemians don't seem to have a keyboard player....

*rimshot!*

HI-YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


Gravatarexposing your skin doesn't necessarily make you sexy, and covering it up doens't make you unsexy.
Buckeye


I didn't see the Today show, so I don't know. But I've long noticed that the tendency for young women to expose their bellies is directly related to the size of said belly.


GravatarSAN DIEGO – A 23-year-old woman who boarded a Southwest Airlines plane in a short skirt for a flight to Arizona says she was led off the plane for wearing an outfit that was considered too skimpy.


Now, call me cynical, but when I saw the photo of the woman in her outfit, she reminded me of a particular exhibitionist at my workplace. The outfit in the photo looks fine, but I'll bet she wasn't wearing her t-shirt that way.

Not that she shouldn't be allowed to fly in a bikini if she wanted to, but I wonder about the "look, I'm so innocent!" vibe I'm getting.


GravatarOK, time for breakfast and then a short nap.


I have not really been to sleep yet.
Went out to get a light for a cig and Eddy snuck out behind me. Thought he was asleep.

Cool tho. Foggy as hell, with deer moving thru it. Got the camera, but before I could get a good pic, there's Eddy, at the end of the driveway barking his head off at me.

Asshole dog.


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GravatarWell, they are kind of, because they're crazy.

As long as they've got a shiny object to drool over...


GravatarI also think folks should remember that an airline isn't Hooters or college, and dress a little more modestly.

I don't even care about that, but who travels in a white micro-mini? What happens if there's turbulence and you spill your drink or something?


Gravatarits near impossible to find a NHS dentist - Almost one in five dental students plans to shun NHS work completely, a study has suggested.

The results suggest a new contract designed to make NHS work more attractive has had limited success.

The University of Dundee-led study reported in the British Dental Journal found 18% of final-year students planned to stick to private work.

In contrast, of the 141 students questioned, just 3% planned to work solely for the NHS after graduating.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/healt...lth/ 6983060.stm

my dentist turned private two years ago


GravatarHi ho, Steverino!

You showed up just in time to see me go back to bed...
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 8:25 am | #


So how went EschaCon:Left Coast and Personal?


Gravatarso diane beat me to it.

You guys are the coolest team ever.


GravatarI've long noticed that the tendency for young women to expose their bellies is directly related to the size of said belly.

You obviously don't get out much.

The big new thing is for young women to flaunt a paunch.

The "plumber buttcrack" look is big, too...


GravatarI also think folks should remember that an airline isn't Hooters or college, and dress a little more modestly. Besides, exposing your skin doesn't necessarily make you sexy, and covering it up doens't make you unsexy.

It's a slippery slope here. First it's banning short skirts on planes. Next it's requiring NTODD to wear pants here. When will it end?
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GravatarI'm thick into a project, so woke up at 3 a.m. thinking about it. Couldn't really do any work on it, tho, so came here to see what's up. I certain someone once again suggested I was abandoning my country. I went back to bed.


Gravatarleggings are popular

i see many girls wearing a short skirt with either leggins or footless tights


Gravatar Besides, exposing your skin doesn't necessarily make you sexy, and covering it up doens't make you unsexy.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins


Why, then, does a potential First Lady flaunt her bosoms for all the world to see?


GravatarMy idea of what to wear on an airplane is extreme comfort. But then in summer, that would be a t-shirt. period. Guess I'd better stick to American.


Gravatardave™© Have you discovered this little org?
http://www.thecrucible.org/
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=u...snum=1& ct=image


GravatarSo how went EschaCon:Left Coast and Personal?

The Meet-n-Greet is today.

Check in around 7-ish, EDT... there just might be liveblogging!


GravatarThe big new thing is for young women to flaunt a paunch.

The "plumber buttcrack" look is big, too...
dave™©


That's what I was saying: the bigger the belly, the more likely the young woman will expose it.


Gravatarleggings are popular

i see many girls wearing a short skirt with either leggins or footless tights
Moonbootica


The 80's called, they want their fashions back.


GravatarGoldsmith on CSpan.


Gravatar
The big new thing is for young women to flaunt a paunch.


When it starts to work for old guys, I'm gonna be the biggest hottie in town....


GravatarHave you discovered this little org?

They had a big "firefest" next to the West Oakland BART station a couple of months back.

Kind of a mini-"Burning Man."

Didn't get to go, but saw the set-up everyday - looked kinda cool.


Gravataras I understand it tailoring is back in vogue

big knits and shoulder pads (every season some relic of the 80s is made 'fashionable')

other trends include biker jackets, bondage inspired outfits i.e. paten leather, studs on handbags

nipped belts and army style jackets

and aren't I sad how I take an interest in fashion....


GravatarI don't even care about that, but who travels in a white micro-mini? Molly Ivors

OTOH, if there's a bad landing, they'll get rescued first....


Gravatarsteve, the ladies love you; you know that.


Gravatarand Molly and steve are the greatest team. ever.


GravatarAm I the only one who freezes on planes? I always have to bring socks and an extra sweater, even in July.


Gravatar...the bigger the belly, the more likely the young woman will expose it.

These crazy kids today!

And what's with that boom-boom-boom music? You never heard of the treble knob???


GravatarWhy, then, does a potential First Lady flaunt her bosoms for all the world to see?

Because lettin the dogs out is extremely presidential.
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Gravatarother trends include biker jackets,
Moonbootica


Hell, I've been fashionable since before the 80's, then.


GravatarDEEP THOUGHT FOR WHENEVER:
Atrios is NEVER wrong....except when he is.
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GravatarTattooed paunches are Teh Hot.


Gravatar
Most of the support for Bush is motivated by the fact that liberals are so outraged by him.
Del Capslock


No, repubs just throw out words, they use some big ones sometimes, and they impress the masses.

Case in point: here in Alaska, we are gonna have a special session to reconsider the tax on the oil companies, since fully 25% of the last voting members are under indictment for bribes.
Ok... Now, the oil companies got a tax they can live with thru their bribes, and dont want another reconsideration of the tax.
So.. radio guys get on the bandwagon, and here's the place where words don't make sense..

" Fully one half of the oil that is gonna be in the pipeline in the next 10 years is still in the ground." .. Dan Fagan, KFQD radio.

Hey Dan... all the oil that will be in that pipe is still in the ground.

Where is your other half, in the freaking sky?

I loath repubs.

BTW, got full up lap of Hidey, hard to type.


GravatarThese crazy kids today!

And what's with that boom-boom-boom music? You never heard of the treble knob???
dave™©


And then there's the spitting...


GravatarAh, I see too much young woman skin for it to have much effect.


GravatarWhile there is little doubt that there are some Republicans (overgeneralizing is so dangerous) who feel that way...this is a huge stretch and if there were the slightest evidence to support the scenario then IMPEACHMENT would be the least that should be done to "them"...Let's not get nutty here. But if you want your head to explode listen in to WJ right now...just missed a Bush wind-up General who did an excellent job of pushing the talking point agenda on how the surge was providing an opportunity for the beginning of progress...MY GOD!!! They have this right down to more Luntz language...frame the debate/control the discussion/get the media to provide the needed access...nothing changes!


GravatarWhy, then, does a potential First Lady flaunt her bosoms for all the world to see?


Girls need to breathe.


GravatarOT, but does anyone need to be depressed this early in the morning?

Erasing Memory: The Cultural Destruction of Iraq


Gravatar
Case in point: here in Alaska, we are gonna have a special session to reconsider the tax on the oil companies, since fully 25% of the last voting members are under indictment for bribes.


Oh my.


GravatarAnd what's with that boom-boom-boom music? You never heard of the treble knob???

The auto I got for my son has enough sound dampening, that the thud, thud noise of his stereo does not carry outside his auto much unless he rolls the windows down. Not something you'd do much in the summer in Az. Too hot!


GravatarWhy, then, does a potential First Lady flaunt her bosoms for all the world to see?

are the first lady's bosoms presidential?

If so, do they belong to the American people?
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GravatarAnd what's with that boom-boom-boom music? You never heard of the treble knob???


EQ is for pussies.


GravatarIf so, do they belong to the American people?
.
curious minds



I dibbs first fondle.

well not first, I'm sure someone already has, but you get the drift.



GravatarGeorge Bush gets a subpoena in Florida.
Too bad it's a silly one.
http://news.filefront.com/wacky-...-george-w-bush/


GravatarPrime Minister Gordon Brown must act before employers turn most workers into "casual labour", the leaders of the UK's biggest union have warned.

Unite general secretaries Derek Simpson and Tony Woodley said increased use of temporary employment agencies were pushing down wages and eroding rights.

Mr Simpson called the situation "one of the biggest scandals you can imagine".

Unite will argue for tougher laws to protect agency workers at the TUC conference, which starts on Monday.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ics/ 6979020.stm


Gravatargood morning cranky old people


GravatarDear Mrs. Laurabot,

Was you virgin before you gave birth?

Just wanna know.

ARkansas.


GravatarIf so, do they belong to the American people?

Nope. They're part of a little thing called "executive privilege." They're only released in public at the discretion of the white house.
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GravatarIf so, do they belong to the American people?
.
curious minds


All your boobs is belong to us.


Gravatarmaybe L'bot is having her boobs enhanced along with the pinch? to stay competitive.


Gravatargood morning cranky old people
mimi



Good morning mimi

Get offa my lawn.


GravatarThey're part of a little thing called "executive privilege." They're only released in public at the discretion of the white house.

Unleash the atomic tits, and bring down the shield wall!


GravatarHere kid, here's a cholla for you to climb.


Gravatar
Check in around 7-ish, EDT... there just might be liveblogging!
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 8:29 am | #


Excellent.

There better be digital imaging involved...


Gravatarmaybe L'bot is having her boobs enhanced along with the pinch? to stay competitive.
Ruth |


Ooooh, rocket titties, braless?

One can only hide teh eyes.


Gravatar hi Barry


GravatarJR, I'm in the middle of that video, and it is indeed depressing. But thanks for posting it.


GravatarArrrrgh, I've got things to do, people to pirate.

Bye.


GravatarI will now quit for the night, er day.

For all the bouncy balls that have been sent, Zoey and I are thankful.

Good nite bats, give em hell morning shift.


GravatarThere better be digital imaging involved...

Hey, I ain't running no Busch Gardens...!


GravatarMarcellina: I've been following the antiquities mess because I'm a history buff, but the other stuff about the libraries and crafts centres... The destruction is thorough.


GravatarI also think folks should remember that an airline isn't Hooters or college, and dress a little more modestly. Besides, exposing your skin doesn't necessarily make you sexy, and covering it up doens't make you unsexy.
Buckeye,


some colleges have dress codes. in some, you can go to class in your nighties. in some, everyone wears a bathing suit all day. so what's your point?

hooters employees wear long, disgusting faux skin covers on their legs, they wear more clothing than many "modestly" dressed women.

who defines "modest" again? you? bush? gay designers in paris? do women even get a say?

wow. so being "sexy" is what matters? people should care about that, a lot? why is that? who is defining "sexy?" does it count if that "sexy" thing is perceived by one, and not the other(s)?

or:
burka on, bitches! it's the american way!


GravatarAfter weeks of diligent searching of music sites (both legal and otherwise) I finally found what I was looking for late last night. It is an obscure little song by folksinger Don McLean (And RIAA: I have two PURCHASED copies of this in my possession; album and 8 track)

If anyone would like a nice, gentle song with LOTS and LOTS of excellent words in it: here is the THE PRIDE PARADE. (My favorite line from this is, "And your talents of a minor order seem to stretch too far." That applies to so many people. Wait, it might apply to me?)

http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...20001/ pride.mp3


GravatarBTW, regarding liveblogging of today's Meet-n-Greet... the place we're meeting at is right across from Union Square, which is blanketed with free wifi... if the signal reaches into Lefty O'Doul's, there'll be liveblogging; however, our crack tech staff hasn't tested this yet.

So we'll see...


GravatarCD,

I am not going to tell anyone else what they can wear or not. Not my business. I can wonder at their sense of modesty privately, but I would never try to tell them what they have to do: it is a free country (or it should be)


GravatarShibuya in a typhoon ...


Gravataror:
burka on, bitches! it's the american way!


Here here.

Being American means I have the right to wear my neon yellow thong in public.

I mean, it's not like France where men at the beach are forced to wear baggy OP swim trunks.
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Gravatar
Hey, I ain't running no Busch Gardens...!
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 8:44 am | #


Conquest Concerts -- nothing but class!!!


GravatarWhen I was a kid, you wore a suit and tie when you flew on a plane.

The women wore their nice dresses and pearls.

What in God's name has happened to our society!?!?!?!?!?!


GravatarAt least 17 people have been killed and 30 injured in a car bomb attack on an Algerian naval barracks in Dellys, 100km (62 miles) east of Algiers.

It comes just two days after a suicide bomb attack left at least 20 people dead, including the bomber, in Batna.

That bomb exploded in a crowd awaiting a visit to the town by President Abdelaziz Bouteflika.

He later blamed Islamic militants for the attack, but there has been no claim of responsibility for either attack.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/afric...ica/ 6984821.stm


GravatarGood morning.

Keith said last night that the young lady in question went on the Today show with "the outfit" on and when she sat down her skirt went up past her undies.


GravatarHey, Steverino, if you run down to the airport and throw a handful of cash at the JetBlue people, you could still make it out here for the Big Shindig...


GravatarIt is the high street retailer best known for its Pic'n'mix range of sweets and its bargain basement toys, homeware and children's clothing.

But next week Woolworths makes an unlikely foray into the luxury end of a competitive and discriminating market. It will launch an own-brand champagne with a selling point that Taittinger and Veuve Clicquot will find hard to match: at Ł5, Woollies says that its will be the cheapest champagne in Britain.


http:// lifeandhealth.guardian.co...2165007,00.html


GravatarCD, like I said, the woman should be allowed to fly in a bikini if she really wants, why the hell not.
But she strikes me more as an exhibitionist who'd hiked up her t-shirt and pulled the skirt down just a little. I work with a woman like this and she never quits.
So she doesn't get my sympathy. Just my take on it.


Gravatar...the young lady in question went on the Today show with "the outfit" on and when she sat down her skirt went up past her undies.

So she was wearing a Star Trek uniform?


GravatarPrivate Ben Ford, who was killed in a roadside ambush, was one of the youngest British soldiers to die in Afghanistan since the Nato-backed operation began, the Ministry of Defence confirmed yesterday.

As news of 18-year-old Pte Ford's death spread through his home town of Chesterfield there was shock and sadness that someone who had been in the army for such a short period should have become a casualty. News of his death was read out at Newbold Church of England school, in Chesterfield, where he had studied until he was 16. A minute's silence was observed during assembly. His former teachers remembered him as a lively, good-humoured youth.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ afghan...2164880,00.html


GravatarI just snipped this gem from the Cleveland Leader:

For a good laugh, here are the Odds for the presidential election from an English sports book. Gore is at 6-1 and the money has Hillary as 2-1 favorite followed by Rudy Giuliani at 3-1.

Heh.


GravatarThis is merely a continuation of the inability to admit failure that has been the hallmark of this Administration -- good money after bad, etc.


GravatarSo she doesn't get my sympathy.

Because it's really the business of the airlines to arbitrally decide who's dressed like a whore and who isn't.


GravatarSteve's movie reviews:

"3:10 to Yuma"
Never saw the original, which is supposed to be great (new DVD came out this week) but this one is a VERY interesting update of a post-war adult western reimagined as a contemporary action flick a la BOURNE. Christian Slater and Russell Crowe -- ace team.

"The Hunting Party"
Fucking A. A James Bond movie done as black comedy...Richard Gere's character is a bit of a melodramatic cliche, but he's really funny and the rest of the flick is scary, suspenseful, and very pointed politically.

How can you not love a movie that starts with the title "The only true parts of this story are the ridiculous ones"?

And ends with "Maybe we're really not looking for Osama Bin Laden"?


GravatarThe standard Republican line is that those opposing the war want to surrender.
When i hear that, I ask -- who are we surrendering to? Is it to the government of Iraq -- to Maliki? No, I don't think so. Is it to al-Sadr? Nope. Is it to the 500-1000 Saudis, Chechens, Syrians, etc that constitute "al-Qaeda in Iraq"? Nope. Is it to one of the other Shia militia in the east -- the one's being aided and abetted by the Iranians? Nope. Kurds? Don't think so.
So when we surrender, who do we hand the sword to? I really want to know.


Gravatarskirt went up past her undies?

needs better designed undies.

see Frederick's H.


GravatarA vicar accused of bullying his congregation and behaving "like a medieval pope" received death threats signed "the Archangel Michael", an ecclesiastical tribunal was told yesterday.

The Rev Dr Tom Ambrose, vicar of St Mary and St Michael church at Trumpington, Cambridgeshire, denies causing a "pastoral breakdown", saying he was deliberately undermined by members of the parochial church council (PCC).

Yesterday his wife said the threats - which were pushed through the vicarage letterbox while her husband took evening service - had left her "terrified and paranoid". "There was an atmosphere of intimidation at Trumpington right from the start," Gill Ambrose said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ religi...2164921,00.html


GravatarAccording to one recent survey, 90% of the senior officials convicted of serious corruption in the past five years kept mistresses. In many cases, they are accused of abusing their positions to make enough money to shower their lovers with gifts.

It is hard to separate the salacious stories from political point scoring, but when a victim falls from grace, the accusations in the local media fly thick and fast.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/ ...2164917,00.html
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 8:17 am


The newspapers aren't allowed to talk about the real graft, but are allowed the bread and circuses of desperate housewives.


GravatarUS pigheadness is endangering whales.


GravatarMoral: don't fuck with your flock.


Gravatarneeds better designed undies.

A thong is the usual requisite for a skirt that short. Seriously.


GravatarI notice a lot of young women are wearing their pants such that you catch a glimpse of their thongs. That seems somewhat new-- the past year or two.


GravatarWhen I was a kid, you wore a suit and tie when you flew on a plane.

The women wore their nice dresses and pearls.


I blame People's Express.


GravatarLots of young women *wear* brazillians now, too.

Things come and they go.


GravatarAh, yes; in a era when one mustn't touch - one is invited to look, natch.


GravatarA vicar accused of bullying his congregation and behaving "like a medieval pope"

Like they remember.


GravatarDrunk again:

President calls APEC OPEC, then lauds "Austrian troops" during a speech for a summit in Australia.


Gravatar. That seems somewhat new-- the past year or two.

Nah. Monica Lewinsky flashed her thong at Bill Clinton.


GravatarMoe, shopped for a swim suit for my 12-yr-old daughter in Canada, what she got was too risque for the local pool in MD. Maybe that's where to get my undies! along with prescrips


Gravatar A Persian paradox: An accidental tourist in Iran

When a planned tour of the country's nuclear sites went awry, Anne Penketh discovered instead the enigmatic splendour of the Iranian city of Esfahan


GravatarLots of young women *wear* brazillians now, too.

I have no idea what this is.

Perhaps you could model...???


GravatarI blame People's Express.



GravatarAnd, a 100 vehicle motorcade to the airport in Australia.


GravatarHeh.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 8:53 am | #


For Christ's sake, Al -- the presidency is yours for the asking.

As that Scottish midget pop tart famously said --

Just do it!!!!!!


GravatarOh, I can't handle the Brazilian discussion. It creeps me out.


Gravatar
Nah. Monica Lewinsky flashed her thong at Bill Clinton.


Flashed it. Now some walk around with the back label in full view.


GravatarYes, what is this "Brazilian" of which you speak?


GravatarChristie's asking at FDL what it would take to go into a voting booth and pull a lever positively rather than negatively.

I think a Gore-Edwards ticket would do that for me. Possibly Gore-Obama.


GravatarOK, let's discuss S&M cell-phone commercials.
(Motorola's Razr2)


GravatarOh, I can't handle the Brazilian discussion. It creeps me out.


I understand, I truly do.

Other people don't think that deeply about it, though. They just like a naked snatch.


GravatarBrazilian wax?


GravatarMoe,
It's waxing your pubic hair down to a tiny strip.

This is of course preferable to going completely bald, like a porn star, which I hear is also popular.


GravatarThey just like a naked snatch.

That's never been one of my "things".

Too pre-pubescent.


Gravatarthe no-pubes pubis.


GravatarFamilies have been warned of a looming credit drought as banks and building societies stop handing out cards and overdrafts to hard-pressed households

Industry experts have said that lenders are clamping down on debt applications for fear that borrowers default as the economy worsens.

It is the latest evidence of how the financial markets crisis is affecting households and follows news that mortgage companies are primed to increase their interest rates, causing more hardship for hundreds of thousands of households due to renew their home loans in the coming months.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ money...cncredit108.xml


GravatarI've always liked the sound of "Gore-Obama." Trips right off the tongue, doesn't it?
But here it is September and my optimism is fading.


GravatarMolly, I can pull a lever positively for any Dem left of Lieberman - if you want law n' order again, that's the only way to fly.


GravatarThis is of course preferable to going completely bald, like a porn star, which I hear is also popular.

We're not going to start talking about anal bleaching again, are we?


GravatarThough admittedly, Gore-Obama does sound like a 1950's horror movie add on. "Now in Goreobama!"


GravatarHagel's retiring and won't run for president?


GravatarI've always liked the sound of "Gore-Obama."

One of my all-time favorite Japanese monster movies!


GravatarWhat has Gore said about the war?


GravatarToo pre-pubescent.

I have been abused in this forum for making that observation.


GravatarThe Republican field is too crowded with midgets.


Gravatartrademark Dave, exactly. The whole shaving thing seems to be to deny women adulthood.


GravatarWhat has Gore said about the war?


He has been against this war from the beginning, long before it started.


GravatarPakistanis have turned to prayer, hashish and frenzied dancing in an attempt to overcome their twin troubles; the Taliban and internal political turmoil.

More than half a million pilgrims flocked to Sehwan in Sindh for a festival for one of Pakistan's chief Sufi saints, Lal Shahbaz Qalandar, last week. "It is better than disco. If I do not come here, I do not feel right," said Idrees Rehman, a bus driver, as the festival and its whirling dervish dhammal dances ended yesterday.

"Everyone thinks Musharraf is a dictator. Qalandar will deal with him," added the man as he raved to the hypnotic dohl drums with his friends, fruit sellers, from Gujrat in northern Punjab.

Qalandar - whose name is synonymous in Pakistan with both political upheaval and tolerance - has a particular aptness as the president, Gen Pervez Musharraf, struggles to extend his tenure amid rising opposition and pro-Taliban violence.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/.../08/ wpak208.xml


GravatarHey, Vicki - the lovely watertiger met my lovely wife yesterday.

She stopped by the store.

All gals at the Meet-n-Greet today are getting 10% discount cards!


GravatarI have been abused in this forum for making that observation.


Unfairly, I might add.


GravatarThat "tiny strip" is sometimes referred to as a Hitler mustache, heh.


GravatarMarcellina,

I was thinking about your question. I really have no knowledge of stranded characters in the Alps. (Actually, I have never been to Europe at all though Mrs DWD is in Spain at this moment with my sisters)

But I would enjoy doing what Ludlum used to do some day. He used to take a tape recorder and then travel to whatever locale it seemed to him that he would like to write about. When he went there, he recorded his thoughts about the place. When he was writing he would take the tapes out and listen to remind him of the things that he saw . . . .


GravatarIt's sad. On gay sites, the blokes who say "look young for my age" never do. Just drop it.


Gravatar" Besides, exposing your skin doesn't necessarily make you sexy, and covering it up doens't make you unsexy."

i'll be the judge of that! any pics of this young thing?


GravatarWhat has Gore said about the war?

He does not like it, Sam I Am!


GravatarAll gals at the Meet-n-Greet today are getting 10% discount cards!




That's a great, uh, *parting* gift, Dave!

I hope you all have fun this evening!


GravatarI believe trademark dave owes me a coke. Judges?


GravatarShit.

There's this Australian singer called Gotye that I like and he's not on iTunes.

See they make me download illegally.


GravatarHe has been against this war from the beginning, long before it started.
Vicki,


That's good to hear. I think I'm joining on that with the camp that says we won't support anyone who won't unequivocally withdraw from Iraq, as quickly as possible.


GravatarI hope you all have fun this evening!

Check in around 7-ish, EDT.

There just might be liveblogging!


GravatarI was just having fun, DWD. BTW I am enjoying Chapter 15 very much.


GravatarSee they make me download illegally.

They who?


GravatarHagel's retiring and won't run for president?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:03 am


I cannot get excited about replacing Hagel with Bob Kerrey. Even knowing Hagel as a far right hench, Kerrey is no Sebelius.


Gravatarmoorrreee misssing white girl. I left NBC last reports when their economic booster said to get your place in the disappearing job scene - network.

right.


GravatarI believe trademark dave owes me a coke.

Fine by me, but what for?


GravatarThat "tiny strip" is sometimes referred to as a Hitler mustache, heh.

I've also heard "landing strip".


GravatarI've been in that store Dave when I lived in SF. The swing kind of scared me


GravatarDave,

Just consider taking the pubic hair off of the Coke can when you offer it to Molly, m-kay?


GravatarHey -- it's Missus Kid Charlemagne's birthday over at the homepage.

Ditto Chrissie Hynde...

Woo hoo!!!


GravatarI actually "dated" (so to speak) a woman who turned out to have a completely hairless nether-region.

We didn't last long...


GravatarI've also heard "landing strip".

Excellent!


GravatarThey who?

THEY, plantsman.


GravatarMarcellina,

Chapter Thirteen was my favorite

(Glad you are enjoying it.)


GravatarWonder if Sinfonian dated her, too?


Gravatardave,
I beat you to Goreobama by a solid minute!


GravatarOT
I don't know how I missed it that Fred Thompson was a major player in getting Reagan to dereg the S&L's
comment rescue:
If you think that the DEMS and Repub contenders can’t educate the public through advertising & commercials about how he personally persuaded Reagan to deregulate the S&L’s, then you’re in for a big surprise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Fre...ompson#Lobbyist


GravatarOff to the farmers market. Back in a bit.


GravatarSpeaking of "meet-n-greet," when's the big to-do with the Blithering Misogynist Idiot Exiled to Brooklyn?

Steve, are you rummaging through your Rollin Hand make-up kit?


GravatarElites have no idea how hard it is for those in the working class to "network" the same way they do.

I despise kids who were born rich, sent to prep school, then Ivy League, get a $70,000 a year job out from the start, and wonder why the little people are so "lazy" and complaining all the the time.


Gravatarmust run do errands - at the homepage Diane just doesn't support her country - won't go for the torture, Dir Hayden - http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/

and if you comment on Cleocatra remember she's sensitive about her extrafluffiness.

best to all meet n' greeter.


Gravatarnice post this morning trifecta - I am off to post a link to you now.


GravatarThey indeed Molly.

The guy's Australian so I have little chance of finding his ceedee's in the store.
Maybe Amazon?


GravatarI beat you to Goreobama by a solid minute!

Well, technically, a Japanese monster movie isn't a horror movie.

More like a comedy!

But here ya go!


GravatarOK, so have a zillion Grandpa Ott morning-glory seeds. I'm thinking of getting white oriental lily bulbs for a pot out front.


GravatarI beat you to Goreobama by a solid minute!




(At myself)

I thought it was because you said that brazillians creeped you out because of the prepubescent nature of the ordeal, and dave said the same thing!

My bad, nasty, naughty boy mind.


GravatarI know it would be a sacrifice, but I really think Gore should run. I am just so unexcited by the top three right now.


GravatarMy bad, nasty, naughty boy mind.

Is it hot in here, or is it me???


GravatarSpeaking of "meet-n-greet," when's the big to-do with the Blithering Misogynist Idiot Exiled to Brooklyn?

Steve, are you rummaging through your Rollin Hand make-up kit?
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:12 am | #


Miss Havisham is without question the stupidest fucking woman on the planet.

Her latest post:

Hillary wants withdrawal bill..."
"Hillary wants withdrawal bill with teeth."

I'm getting some scary vagina dentata imagery out of that Kos headline.

Hillary wants withdrawal, Bill. With teeth!


God, she's loathsome....


Gravatar" I am just so unexcited by the top three right now."

agreed. yawn.


GravatarAmazon has gotye, HBK. Several CDs.


GravatarNoron was back on Tweety last night. Her fraternal twins Grace and Henry look to be doing well. Tweety said Mrs. Larry Craig made Nancy Reagan look like a piker of a political spouse. Noron brayed her amusement.


GravatarAs Digby noted some time ago: The fright-wing conservatards love the fight.


GravatarThe Field So Far [Rick Brookhiser]

Now that Fred Thompson is officially in the race, it is appropriate to say that he is, on the face of it, by far the weakest potential president of the top tier Republicans.

Strongest is Giuliani who, alone of all the candidates in both parties, has done something. Two things—saved New York City; and led America for two days six years ago.


Without Rudy, there would be a blank space on the map where NYC used to be.


GravatarBreakfast beckons...


Back in a few....


GravatarGod, she's loathsome...

Actually, she's seriously disturbed.

Getting the boot from Podunk U really set her off.

I pretty much stay away from that site now. I don't have a problem making fun of a fucking idiot, but it's not in me to make fun of someone with such obvious mental issues.


Gravatarbye for now


GravatarHillary Clinton and Barack Obama should take the lead on something.
Anything.

It seems like they're afraid of offending somebody.

There are people that would never consider voting for either of them so who are they keeping their powder dry for?


GravatarI don't have a problem making fun of a fucking idiot, but it's not in me to make fun of someone with such obvious mental issues.


Speaking of which, I wonder what prompted Incog to start posting here again? He's easy to ignore because he doesn't post relentlessly stupid stuff at the pace of three posts per minute, but still...


GravatarDid althouse get kicked off faculty at Madison?


GravatarHe's easy to ignore because he doesn't post relentlessly stupid stuff at the pace of three posts per minute, but still...

Give him time...


GravatarI'm getting some scary vagina dentata imagery out of that Kos headline.

Gah, then there's this....


GravatarDid althouse get kicked off faculty at Madison?

She has mysteriously taken a "guest professorship" in Brooklyn for the year.

I'm guessing there's no return stamp on her ticket...


GravatarGah, then there's this....
Molly Ivors


Ugh.


GravatarOh, I expect Althouse's sinecure at Madison is sound enough. It's not uncommon to guest at another school, particularly if you're shopping for a new position. She may think that her NYT columns mean she's ready for the big time.


GravatarWhich of course suggests that she's delusional...


GravatarGive him time...
dave™


Yup, they always revert to type.


GravatarGah, then there's this....
Molly Ivors


Real men crack open nuts with their bare hands, not with some girly kitchen gadget!


Gravataryou stinkass heteropuke bacteria are oppressing me!

where's my soup? who stole my beer and liquid smoke?


GravatarIt's not uncommon to guest at another school, particularly if you're shopping for a new position.

She was extremely quiet about the events leading up to it, which leads me to believe those "events" couldn't be rationalized away as "good".

She may think that her NYT columns mean she's ready for the big time.

That would be a textbook example of delusional.


GravatarWell, I probably better get the trash out before the dumptruck comes.

And then there's those dates with the shower, followed by market, followed by cooking in the kitchen with Vicki, followed by my family...(ugh).

Happy fucking joy joy.


GravatarI owe Molly another Coke.

Try the Zero - best in the city!


Gravatarwhere's my soup? who stole my beer and liquid smoke?




You forgot the egg farming, man.


GravatarAnd then there's those dates with the shower...

You will be turning on the webcam, right?


GravatarEven early on a bright saturday morning this place is always good for discussions about cute little animals; whale's tails, camel toes, beavers, furry or not.......


Gravatar"where's my soup? who stole my beer and liquid smoke?"

You forgot the egg farming, man.


You fucking Northeners don't know shit about making gumbo!


GravatarWeird story:

Millionaire U.S. Rep. wins lottery again

MILWAUKEE - U.S. Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, already a millionaire and heir to the Kimberly-Clark fortune, is on a lucky streak. The Republican hit it big in 1997 with a $250,000 jackpot in the District of Columbia lottery. Then, last spring, he won $1,000 prize in the Wisconsin lottery, and he won another $1,000 in that lottery last week.

"I got lucky," Sensenbrenner said.

Sensenbrenner, 64, was born into a family that helped build Kimberly-Clark Corp., maker of Kleenex tissue and Scott paper towels, and he recently reported a net worth of about $11.6 million. He said he spends about $10 a week on lottery tickets.

The latest winnings came in a Super 2nd Chance drawing, in which people who mail in at least $5 in losing tickets vie for 10 $1,000 prizes each week. Lottery officials put the odds of winning just one time at 1 in 5,000.


embarassing.


GravatarAm I the only one who freezes on planes? I always have to bring socks and an extra sweater, even in July.
Marcellina | 09.08.07 - 8:32 am


That's usually my first thought seeing people with not a lot of clothing (or light clothing) on a plane: You're gonna freeze to death!

Also didn't think the young lady in question was that attractive-too much fake stuff" boobs, hair, FSM knows what else.


Gravatar"Stinky" Tex Sensenbrenner.


GravatarBTW, in case you missed it, Cliff Schecter's blog has moved.

Please make a note of it...


GravatarA confession: I have unintentionally purchased a wingnut book for the boy, whose birthday is tomorrow. I had no idea: it just looked like the kind of thing he would like.

Thers told me it's a cause celebre among your Limbaugh's and Instawankers, however.


Gravatar"5 Civilians Killed in Iraq Blast"

So does Betrayus count those 5 or not? Mr Gordon must know the answer to that.


GravatarI don't have a problem making fun of a fucking idiot, but it's not in me to make fun of someone with such obvious mental issues.
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:21 am


Agreed. I don't find her a figure of fun anymore...

She and her cultists are seriously fucked up.

Nazi libertarian me me me me assholes.

Not amusing at all...


GravatarAm I the only one who freezes on planes? I always have to bring socks and an extra sweater, even in July.


No wonder, the temperature at 30,000 feet *is* minus 49 degrees F!


GravatarHere's her pic.

Personally, I find it ironic that you've got this story out at the same time sharia proponent bin Laden is lecturing.
~


GravatarMy support for Hillary Clinton is largely driven by the fact that another Clinton in the whitehouse would piss conservatives off.


GravatarMy support for Hillary Clinton is largely driven by the fact that another Clinton in the whitehouse would piss conservatives off.


Well, that's the mature way to look at things.


Gravatarwow...took a look at the airplane woman.

i didn't think that was out of line.


GravatarIn Mid-Michigan a successful businessman who owned a string of stores (Dancer's Fashions) actually won the Michigan Lottery twice (for several million dollars each time)

Go figure.


GravatarI would love to get a peek at Althouse's student evaluations!


GravatarSo I take it Britney doesn't fly on Southwest Airlines.


GravatarHere's the book.


GravatarThers told me it's a cause celebre among your Limbaugh's and Instawankers, however.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:36 am | #


Details, please...


GravatarI'm getting some scary vagina dentata imagery out of that Kos headline.

Gah, then there's this....
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:24 am |


A Hillary nutcracker? I need to send one to my soon-to-be former B-i-L, a winger.


Gravatari don't think republics intentions are that pure, that thought out or that caring to actually hone a message other than: there's capitaism to be done there and we're bombing for their oil

the whole 'strategic interest' lie is simply O-I-L....i'd watch out if i were hugo chavez (although it appears that teh US likes dick-taters more than democracies throughout the world)


Gravatarwow...took a look at the airplane woman.

i didn't think that was out of line.


I didn't, either. Flame me if you will, but because I've had both a piping hot and overweight body in my life, I think that you should wear what you feel looks best on you. Period.


GravatarHere's her pic.

I still think these photos are misleading. You can see where the button is at the top of her skirt, look how low it actually is. I don't believe she actually wore her t-shirt pulled down like that.


GravatarHeaven forbid we should see panties!

.


GravatarI heard of the book. It's boy stuff. Ignore the wingnuts. It's not terrible.


GravatarAdam D. Thierer
Who Killed TV’s “Family Hour”?
It’s not who you think.


Cock Robin?


GravatarI would love to get a peek at Althouse's student evaluations!

She's a late grader, I know that.

And then there's this.


GravatarDetails, please...

The wingnuts think it's a much-needed antidote to the "feminazis" who have been castrating men for the last 30 years.

Almost as good as taking a shower with a father figure so he can see your cock...


Gravatarwow...took a look at the airplane woman.

i didn't think that was out of line.
jdw | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:39 am | #


Two things, I think it was the skirt-ride up that got her in trouble, and I'm under the impression that isn't the way she showed up on the plane, that's after she was asked to cover more skin.


GravatarMolly, how does tht get to be a wingnut book? My FIL found a small handbook once that was full of facts about how to find your way out of the woods or at least survive until you are found. It had all these really good tips. If that poor guy from Wire had read it he never would have died when his family car got snowbound in Oregon.


Gravatar"Flame me if you will, but because I've had both a piping hot and overweight body in my life,"

her face is ugly as sin, but her body is nice enuf.

it ain't like her tits are hanging out or showing clam or anything.

my guess is the attendant was jealous.


GravatarMolly,

I would definately take her again.



This is a law student?


GravatarI heard of the book. It's boy stuff. Ignore the wingnuts. It's not terrible.
trifecta | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:42 am


There's also going to be a Dangerous Book for Girls, IIRC.


GravatarI would love to get a peek at Althouse's student evaluations!

She's a late grader, I know that.


Well, too be fair, there are very few law professors who are not in my experience!


GravatarAnd then there's this.

I esp. liked this:

She is like an emu. She writes and talks like a flightless bird who does not understand copyright laws.


GravatarFlame me if you will, but because I've had both a piping hot and overweight body in my life...

Baby, you're always piping hot!


GravatarYou will be turning on the webcam, right?
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:30 am


The cameras right now are all on Italy and listening to Pavarotti's funeral.


Gravatarpisses off liberals

I think that's secondary. In a patriarchy, it's necessary to always have an "other" against whom everyone can be directing their ire, rather than at the patriarchs.


GravatarI'm under the impression that isn't the way she showed up on the plane, that's after she was asked to cover more skin.

Again, I have to ask: who gives a fuck?

What fucking business is it of the airlines how you dress?


Gravataractually, I think all gender roles are kind of fucked up at this point in time and that is leading to the general unhappiness that seems to permeate our society. Not that people should not do what they want to do but that they feel so badly about having to choose to do the things that others demand of them. . .

It is probably correct to say that men's roles have been convoluted in the last few years, but so have women's.

So a little book like this is not an answer, it is a question but one that might be asked without harming a person if they are intelligent enough to see it for what it is (That sort of leaves out Rush and his ilk though)


GravatarMolly, how does tht get to be a wingnut book? My FIL found a small handbook once that was full of facts about how to find your way out of the woods

The moss grows on the North side of an aspen tree.


GravatarThe cameras right now are all on Italy and listening to Pavarotti's funeral.

Ummmmmmm... that ain't doing it for me.


GravatarBaby, you're always piping hot!


You're too sweet.


Gravatar"Flame me if you will, but because I've had both a piping hot and overweight body in my life,"

her face is ugly as sin, but her body is nice enuf.

it ain't like her tits are hanging out or showing clam or anything.

my guess is the attendant was jealous.
jdw | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:45 am | #


Male attendant, acting on a complaint. Not the way she was dressed when she originally showed up on the plane.

And I'll repeat what I wrote earlier, dressing sexy is one thing, but dressing sexy for the occasion is another. She's not at school, or work, so maybe a little less school would have been something to do. A skirt a couple inches longer and she probably wouldn't have been noticed expect in the ways she's used to.


Gravatarwow...took a look at the airplane woman.

i didn't think that was out of line.
jdw


i posted this yesterday when this topic came up, and it's just too funny not to repost the link -- be sure to read the caption:

southwest airlines stewardess, circa 1970s:

http://images.google.com/imgres?...:en-US%26sa% 3DN


GravatarThe wingnuts think it's a much-needed antidote to the "feminazis" who have been castrating men for the last 30 years.

...oh yeah, let's play the "man-as-victim" theme some more, funny how watching court teevee and that 99% of all the murders are men killing women, usually a wife or an acquaintance


GravatarI heard of the book. It's boy stuff. Ignore the wingnuts. It's not terrible.

I took a peek at that book. It looked cool. It's a modern re-write of a book I had when I was a kid that I wish I still had. It shows you howow to make whistles out of reeds and such.


GravatarFor instance, if you are on a logging road and come to a turnoff, the angle of the intersection usually tells you which way is outwards. towards the main road. Loaded log trucks don't make sharp turns. things like that.

Oh, and tips on how to take a really wide stance when you piss in public restrooms. Things chicks would never unnerstand.


GravatarI didn't see it as a wingnut book, and I really liked the style. The boy loves atlases and books of facts and such--and this is full of little projects.

But yes, it's supposed to be an answer to those mean feminists who have made boyhood no fun.


GravatarI flipped through that book in the bookstore this summer, didn't find it to be idealogical or übermilitary. Maybe it's unfair to say it's only "for boys".


GravatarYou're too sweet.

Diabetics shouldn't get too close!


GravatarI still think these photos are misleading. You can see where the button is at the top of her skirt, look how low it actually is. I don't believe she actually wore her t-shirt pulled down like that.
Marcellina


I don't think it really matters. Just doesn't look out of line to me.


GravatarI think all gender roles are kind of fucked up at this point

DWD, those *roles* are based on social norms. I think it's important to break the stereotypes.

I'm sick unto death of people expecting me to behave in a certain way. It even happens here, on this blog...the sex troll who can't handle open discussion about the beauty of sexuality, for example.


GravatarFile under the ever growing WTF? section:

Rumsfeld Headed to Hoover Institution.

Rumsfeld will serve on a task force of scholars and experts who will focus on issues pertaining to "ideology and terror," the conservative think tank announced Friday in a press release.


Because he's been such a success?

~


Gravatar"Male attendant, acting on a complaint."

a jealous woman, perhaps? or some hung up republican type?

maybe she was showing more then the pic, but from what she's wearing there i don't see anything different then what i see at the mall or a high school football game.


Gravatar
southwest airlines stewardess, circa 1970s:


You're so beautiful.... You could be an air hostess in the 60's....


GravatarVicki, Who ♥ Al Gore:

To use sinfonian's wonderful joke --

If we were doing it, it would be so hard that the guy who pulled me out would be the next king of England.


GravatarI'm under the impression that isn't the way she showed up on the plane, that's after she was asked to cover more skin.

Again, I have to ask: who gives a fuck?

What fucking business is it of the airlines how you dress?
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:47 am | #


The same reason a store can enforce a No Shirt No Shoes No Service request: It's their business.

And if they want to ask that patrons adhere to some sort of dress code, it's their choice. You can choose not to do business with them.

You're in public, not private, sorry. I don't buy the dress however you want, wherever you want. Show some common sense in dress, that would be the grown up thing to do. I'm also including men showing butt cracks and beer bellies in this, BTW.


Gravatarsouthwest airlines stewardess, circa 1970s...

I'll bet the guy at the ticket counter who got all pissy is just ticked off that HE can't dress like that!


GravatarLater on BookTV/c-span2 - After Words: Lt. Col. John Nagl, contributor and author of foreword to "The U.S. Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual" interviewed by Sean Naylor

Upcoming Schedule
Saturday, September 8, at 9:00 PM
Sunday, September 9, at 6:00 PM
Sunday, September 9, at 9:00 PM
Monday, September 10, at 12:00 AM

About the Program
Lt. Col. John Nagl helped write "The U.S. Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual," which was prepared under the guidance of Gen. David Petraeus (currently leading the "surge" in Iraq). Lt. Col. Nagl, a veteran of both Opertation Desert Storm and the current war in Iraq, talks about the manual with Sean Naylor, senior writer for Army Times and the author of "Not a Good Day to Die: The Untold Story of Operation Anaconda."

About the Author
Lt. Col Nagl is the author of "Learning to Eat Soup with a Knife: Counterinsurgency Lessons from Malaya and Vietnam" and wrote the foreword to "Instructions for American Servicemen in Iraq during World War II."

http://www.booktv.org/schedule.aspx

That would be the Petraeus field manual that Petraeus currently violates.
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GravatarPlease show your support for peace by attending "Bands Not Bombs", a DuPage Concert for Peace. Saturday, Sept. 15 from 1-3:30 at Old Town Park in Bloomingdale, 1 block west and south of Lake Street & Bloomingdale Road).

Featuring some great bands, Billionaires for Bush, and more. At the conclusion, we will march to Rep. Peter Roskam's (R-IL6)office to protest his support for Bush's war. Collections will be taken for the Midwest Homeless Vets Shelter in Wheaton, petitions and other political action measures will be available also.


GravatarThe same reason a store can enforce a No Shirt No Shoes No Service request: It's their business.

No Shoes is a health issue. Maybe No Shirt too.

Sorry, this is bullshit. End of story.


GravatarYou're in public, not private, sorry.

But it was in mid-flight and she had no luggage.


Gravatar"southwest airlines stewardess, circa 1970s:"

well, there ya go. thank you.


GravatarIf we were doing it, it would be so hard that the guy who pulled me out would be the next king of England.

Woo Hoo!


GravatarIt is, IMHO, a v. dangerous thing when we start getting everyone in America, including the effing Today show, convinced that they ought to get to decide what's "too provocative" for a woman to wear. Slippery slope to those godawful pieces of flowered crap Mrs. Dugger wears and then to burkas. Her body, her choice.


GravatarYou're in public, not private, sorry. I don't buy the dress however you want, wherever you want. Show some common sense in dress, that would be the grown up thing to do.

Does this apply to t-shirts that say "Impeach Bush"?

Why not?


GravatarWell, if someone backs out on meeting me in Chicago next weekend, I may just have to put on my hotpants, jump on a plane, and head to DC for the peace march on Saturday.


Gravatarhttp://images.google.com/imgres?...:en-US%26sa% 3DN
linda


Wow! No wonder all the pilots cheated on their wives in those days.


GravatarMy toddler is a boy. We haven't encouraged his love of dirt, balls, machinery, climbing and monster trucks. he just was born this way. He has rejected plush animals, gender neutral toys. So, we are not forcing him into anything.

If he wanted dolls, we would get them for him.


GravatarHere's the book.

that ain't shit....where the anarchist's handbook when you need it?

know what would be a coup? sending the cookbook to wingnuts who wanted to buy this drivel for their johnnie to be more like a man


GravatarThe same reason a store can enforce a No Shirt No Shoes No Service request: It's their business.

No. Airlines are public carriers that serve functions beyond their own private business interests.


Gravatarheya again


GravatarDWD --

You still here?


GravatarFox and Friends regular Mancow once called anyone against the war "peace pussies"


Gravatar"Male attendant, acting on a complaint."

a jealous woman, perhaps? or some hung up republican type?

maybe she was showing more then the pic, but from what she's wearing there i don't see anything different then what i see at the mall or a high school football game.
jdw | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:51 am | #


Skirt ride up, jdw, skirt ride up, seening the undies, not wanting to see undies on a plane is not out of line. Sorry, I'm aware that the young ladies of today show a hell of a lot of skin, but that doesn't mean airline passengers have to put of with it.

SW could have handled it a lot more discreetly, however.


GravatarIF the fukkin flight attendant had any sense he would have offered her a blanket to keep on her lap. Maybe she was sitting next to a middle age couple and the woman was afraid her husband might get thrombosis of the pecker during the flight.


GravatarRecall the adventures of Scott of the Antarctic and the Battle of the Somme,


Ah, yes. The good times.


GravatarIt even happens here, on this blog...the sex troll who can't handle open discussion about the beauty of sexuality, for example.

Yes, the number of cranky old Victorian farts who hang out here is pretty depressing.

Grow the fuck up.


Gravatarmy niece quite happily moves between doing 'boyish stuff' and playing with her dolls


GravatarEnd of story.

Here I agree with you. I wish to move on to another topic, please.

Did anyone sing at Pavarotti's funeral?


GravatarChimpy planning more stunts today

Q Will there be any families of the fallen in Hawaii, or just wounded?

MS. PERINO: I think it's just wounded.

Q Is any part of the event in Hawaii, are any parts of that open to the press?

MS. PERINO: At this point, no. So if that changes, we'll let you know when we're on the plane, on the way there.

Q He's going to go to Pearl Harbor as well as Hickam?

MS. PERINO: The lunch is at Pearl Harbor.


GravatarEither that, or they are trying to piss off Iraqis by fighting a war on liberals.


GravatarI have been abused in this forum for making that observation.
Molly Ivors
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IU, on the other hand, have been abused in this forum.


GravatarWell, if someone backs out on meeting me in Chicago next weekend, I may just have to put on my hotpants, jump on a plane, and head to DC for the peace march on Saturday.
Vicki,


Someone's loss, our gain.


GravatarDid anyone sing at Pavarotti's funeral?
Marcellina | 09.08.07 - 9:56 am | #


Andrew Boticelli I heard


GravatarFox and Friends regular Mancow once called anyone against the war "peace pussies"
jr | 09.08.07 - 9:55 am | #


You gotta be shitting me...


GravatarDid anyone sing at Pavarotti's funeral?


The fat lady.


Gravatar"Skirt ride up, jdw, skirt ride up, seening the undies, not wanting to see undies on a plane is not out of line."

ok, i can see that...if it rode up to the point of a crotch shot then that's too much.

attendant should get her a blankie for her lap, end of story.

like i said, i see much more then that at a HS football game.


GravatarEnlist? Nah, I won't be doing that.


GravatarSkirt ride up, jdw, skirt ride up, seening the undies, not wanting to see undies on a plane is not out of line. Sorry, I'm aware that the young ladies of today show a hell of a lot of skin, but that doesn't mean airline passengers have to put of with it.

SW could have handled it a lot more discreetly, however.
Buckeye,


Seems to me the way the seats are configured with about one inch between your nknees and the seat in front of you, there wouldn't be a chance of anyone seeing anything.


GravatarDo airplanes even have blankets anymore?


GravatarYou're in public, not private, sorry. I don't buy the dress however you want, wherever you want. Show some common sense in dress, that would be the grown up thing to do.

Does this apply to t-shirts that say "Impeach Bush"?

Why not?
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:53 am |


Not an obscenity, if you had one that said Fuck Bush, that would be different. And if they threw you off the plane for impeach bush, you'd have a free speech issue. The girl in question would not.

No. Airlines are public carriers that serve functions beyond their own private business interests.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:54 am |


Our RTA has a dress code (not that it's enforced), so I suspect that an airline having a dress code for passengers could probably get away with legally, depending on precisely it's worded.


GravatarPavarotti, a fine tenor in his prime, sadly in his later years not so much.

Never was a huge fan of his, I prefer Placido Domingo myself, Jose Carreras as well


GravatarI'm still in mourning for Madeline L'Engle. I knew that she was aged, but not that she was near death. I loved her books so much.


GravatarDid anyone sing at Pavarotti's funeral?
Marcellina | 09.08.07 - 9:56 am


Still doing Catholic stuff.

But the crowd is filled with an interesting mix of people. Bono is in the pews.


Gravatarin some ways, i think the kids are dressing less provacativly today then 30 years ago.

i see a lot of halters, but they are always worn with a bra. wtf is up with that?


GravatarThe funeral service is attended by Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi and celebrated by Modena's Archbishop Benito Cocchi.

Thousands of people are watching the invitation-only service on a huge television screen erected in Modena's main piazza, where a recording of the tenor's most famous works has been playing during two days of public viewing.

The traditional Roman Catholic requiem mass began with a moving rendition of Verdi's Ave Maria by Bulgarian-born soprano Raina Kabaivanska, also a resident of Modena who had worked with Pavarotti.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/enter...ent/ 6983912.stm


GravatarWatertiger has a tshirt that says "My bush would make a better president." Is that obscene?


GravatarWedding's over, then?
.


Gravatarmy dad is watching the Rugby World Cup


GravatarSeems to me the way the seats are configured with about one inch between your nknees and the seat in front of you, there wouldn't be a chance of anyone seeing anything.
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:59 am |


They made her get up and come to the front, which would defeat the purpose of the complaint. Could have told her quietly that there was a complaint about the shortness of her skirt, and would she mind have this blanket over her legs for the duration of the flight, sorry for the inconvenience sort of thing.


Gravatarnah. It's funny.


GravatarAnd if they threw you off the plane for impeach bush, you'd have a free speech issue.

Maybe, but it's not clear to me. First Amendment prevents the government from interfering w/ your speech, not a private business. If your theory is that airlines are private businesses, that makes the free speech argument less likely


GravatarWow, this ratemyprofessors site is harsh! But Thers got a hot pepper. Ha!


Gravatarchimpy pumped up

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/ 0709...22b7d20a0e3fec4


GravatarSkirt ride up, jdw, skirt ride up, seening the undies, not wanting to see undies on a plane is not out of line.

You should take another flight, then.

And when you start talking about the "girl," you pretty much say it all.

We're done.


GravatarBlind Italian tenor Andrea Bocelli will also sing Panis Angelicus, a hymn performed at the cathedral by Pavarotti with his father Fernando in 1978.


Gravatar"My bush would make a better president." Is that obscene?


No, I'd say it's accurate. I bet she has more brain in her Bush than all of the brain in Bush's brain.


GravatarWatertiger has a tshirt that says "My bush would make a better president." Is that obscene?


No, that's the honest truth.


Gravatarmy dad is watching the Rugby World Cup
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:01 am


US vs UK coming up.


and the archbishop has teared up.


GravatarWatertiger has a tshirt that says "My bush would make a better president." Is that obscene?

Girls shouldn't be so outspoken. She'll never catch a husband like that!


GravatarChimpy likes toys

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/ 0709...apec12209080652


Gravatarmy niece quite happily moves between doing 'boyish stuff' and playing with her dolls
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:56 am | #


Has she started cutting the hair off the dolls yet?


GravatarWatertiger has a tshirt that says "My bush would make a better president." Is that obscene?
Molly Ivors


1) I don't believe in "obscenity", I do believe in context appropriate language/

2) Any kid that knows what that means is already old enough to read it in public.


GravatarDepends on what WT's Bush thinks about the earned income tax credit


Gravatarnew bin laden video proves that we have to keep our war on!

i mean, why would anyone question that after a trillion dollars and 6 years the US ain't done shit against teh terr'sts?

it's only the little people's tax dollars - the rich pay WAYYY less for this war...so this war is paid by the poor in treasure and blood....la la la, so long as the sheep are given their pittance jobs, they will gladly pay with their children and monies


Gravatar
US vs UK coming up.


and the archbishop has teared up.
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:03 am | #


that should be US vs England

UK is not England alright


GravatarI miss the days when travel meant formal attire, too. But they're gone. I don't see a problem in her dress. It's short, yeah, but deal with it.
.


GravatarHas she started cutting the hair off the dolls yet?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.08.07 - 10:03 am | #


nope

she is such a pleasant little girl


GravatarPavarotti was never my ideal type of singer, I too am more of a Domingo fan: Domingo is an accomplished musician, he knows and performs in several languages, he conducts (there was debate once whether Pavarotti could even read music, let alone a full orchestral score), and in his prime he was damn sexy onstage and off.

That said, for what Pavarotti was, he was the absolute best: the quintessential Italian Tenor.


GravatarFox and Friends regular Mancow once called anyone against the war "peace pussies"

When's he enlisting?


GravatarAiight. Diet has been disrupted due to a lack of funds. Back to the good stuff today! To market, to market.....


GravatarDo airplanes even have blankets anymore?
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 9:59 am | #


Last time I flew -- 93, if memory serves -- I got a nice pair of socks courtesy of Virgin Airways.


Gravatarthat should be US vs England

UK is not England alright
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:04 am


mea culpa. I forgot. Wales and Scotland have their own teams.

Wilkerson is out. But it won't matter.


GravatarGirls shouldn't be so outspoken. She'll never catch a husband like that!



The haircutting stage doesn't kick in until 10 or so, usually. In my houser, the barbies were shorn and gothed up with sharpies.


GravatarHey, Steverino - it's Saturday, you know...


GravatarHas she started cutting the hair off the dolls yet?

We used to pull their heads off!


GravatarSkirt ride up, jdw, skirt ride up, seening the undies, not wanting to see undies on a plane is not out of line.

You should take another flight, then.

And when you start talking about the "girl," you pretty much say it all.

We're done.
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:02 am


Um, since when did wanting a little decorum in public dress: not wanting to see underwear or butt cracks on a plane, or in an office, or on a bus, make me a Victorian?

She can dress sexy, but perhaps someone should show her how to be sexy while showing less, much more interesting, and adult, that way.

Maybe it's a taste thing, not a prude thing, Dave, think of it that way.


GravatarI don't recall ever cutting my doll's hair


GravatarOKay, work never ends here. Later, all!


GravatarHas she started cutting the hair off the dolls yet?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.08.07 - 10:03 am | #

nope

she is such a pleasant little girl
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:04 am | #


Just wait!


GravatarI'm gonna fly SW wearing nothing but a speedo, whoo!


Gravatari never pulled off my Sindy doll's heads either

they just got well worn with being played an awful lot


GravatarPavarotti was never my ideal type of singer, I too am more of a Domingo fan: Domingo is an accomplished musician, he knows and performs in several languages, he conducts (there was debate once whether Pavarotti could even read music, let alone a full orchestral score), and in his prime he was damn sexy onstage and off.

I don't like opera singers period (it's a long story), but I like Domingo. Damn good actor -- check out the movie version of Carmen he did with Julie Migenes-Johnson in the 80s (shot on location, BTW).

Smokin' hot....


Gravatari must be strange no?


GravatarThe haircutting stage doesn't kick in until 10 or so, usually.

They used to make a doll who "grew" hair - can't remember if it was officially a Barbie or not, but it was a Barbie-type doll with a button on her stomach you'd push and you could make her hair longer.

My sister and her friends pulled the hair out as far as it would go, then cut it off. They then took the doll to my mother, asking why the hair wouldn't "grow" anymore.


GravatarLater, Moonbats. Gotta go do errands.


GravatarI don't like opera singers period (it's a long story)...

I always wanted to fuck an opera singer.

A female one, preferably...


Gravatarholloween costume: pugsley and wednesday adams....wednesday has a decapitated doll and pugsley has a little guillotine?

is that decent for a date?


GravatarI do know my dolls ended up losing shoes and the outfits would get tatty

as i said they looked well played with

but I never cut off their hair or their heads


Gravatarbocelli is on now.


GravatarI miss the days when travel meant formal attire, too. But they're gone. I don't see a problem in her dress. It's short, yeah, but deal with it.
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Sparkle Plenty | 09.08.07 - 10:04 am | #


Now I'm being ornery, but why? If your showing underwear, either from baggy pants, or too short skirt, or whatever, why do I have to 'deal with it'? I'm not at their home, why should I be the one to deal with it?


GravatarI used to live in an apartment building with an opera singer. Her "practice" made me despise Italian opera. I can still handle some Mozart, but damn that woman practiced 3-5 hours a day and was very very fucking loud.


Gravatarbut I never cut off their hair or their heads
Moonbootica, Graduate


Neither did I, Moon. We certainly didn't have the kind of money necessary to replace such an expense.


Gravatarhttp://blogs.guardian.co.uk/trav...g/arctic_diary/

some things about modern life are pretty cool - this arctic diary - great pics and info about effects of global warming - just interesting imho


GravatarHey, Steverino - it's Saturday, you know...
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:07 am | #


I know, but right now I hate all Democrats so much it seems redundant to bash her....


GravatarI miss the days when travel meant formal attire, too.

What if she was wearing her formal underwear?


GravatarJeez, I forgot to tell the Noo Yawkahs about this.

Maybe they can cancel their trip to Muir Woods this morning...


GravatarOur girls were never too into Barbies, but they got their share as gifts, of course. Instead of endlessly dressing and undressing them, they pulled off the heads and switched them around instead.
.


GravatarI don't like opera singers period (it's a long story), but I like Domingo. Damn good actor -- check out the movie version of Carmen he did with Julie Migenes-Johnson in the 80s (shot on location, BTW).

Smokin' hot....
steve simels | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:09 am |


Oh, yes. Whatever happened to her?


Gravatarright now I hate all Democrats so much it seems redundant to bash her....

You've changed, man...


Gravatarhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/enviro...8/ climatechange

the link that led me to the artic diary is about melting ice triggering earthquakes - gonna' be an INTERESTING century


GravatarI like the Bel Canto repertoire

Rossini (1792-186, Bellini (1801-1835), and Donizetti (1797-184

Juan Diego Flórez is set to performing at the Final Night of the Proms today


GravatarI don't like opera singers period (it's a long story)


Ummm. You are talking to one.
But I understand exactly what you mean.


GravatarI love Verdi and Puccini as well


GravatarI always wanted to fuck an opera singer.

A female one, preferably...
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:10 am | #


Like I said -- Julia Migenes-Johnson.

Hubba hubba!!!!


GravatarBuckeye -- Well, they're not in your home, either. Air travel is bus travel with wings, these days.
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Gravatargreat pics and info about effects of global warming - just interesting imho

i was up at 11,000 feet last week up in montana and told that a few years ago i could see a glacier up there....now...not a damn thing


GravatarMaybe it's a taste thing, not a prude thing, Dave, think of it that way.
Buckeye,


Precisely, and why should your taste prevail over her's?


GravatarI always wanted to fuck an opera singer.

A female one, preferably...
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:10 am | #


I don't mean as people.

I meant vocal quality. There's something gratingly artificial about classically trained voices that I can't get past. I don't find them attractive at all....


Gravatarmy mum has a fablous collection of opera CDs

mainly Jose Carreras but also Domingo, Montserrat Caballé, Ruggerio Raimondi, Joan Sutherland, Renee Fleming, Mirella Freni


GravatarBuckeye: my tastes and yours coincide, I'd expect, but I wouldn't dream of enforcing mine on others. A good thing, too...


GravatarCondi's new dress.


GravatarRepublican support for this war is largely driven by their understanding that its continuation really pisses off liberals.

No shit, Sherlock. And when are we getting our "thank-you" 2006, ingrates?


Gravatari got my love of opera from my mother and my sister


Gravatar...a few years ago i could see a glacier up there....now...not a damn thing
mogwai, my posts kill fascists

I saw reports last week that suggested global dimming (? what happens when everyone listens to a gwb jr. speech!) was masking some of the effects of global warming for now but not for long - suggestion was that things will get worse exponentially not incrementally


GravatarDemocracy as a standard in itself, or not


Gravatarwhen you grow up in an italian household, all dads think they can sing opera, either in the shower or getting dressed or whatever - most actually can make a tiny portion sound good, but i never liked it


GravatarThere's something gratingly artificial about classically trained voices that I can't get past.

My wife feels the same way.

They're fine when they're singing opera, but it just sounds weird when they try to sing "popular" songs.


GravatarNo one is enforcing their taste on anyone else here! It's a comments site, and we are commenting, i.e. expressing our opinions. Buckeye is entitled to his opinion of a scantily-clad maid on a plane, just the same as you.


Gravatar« Condi's new dress. »

She looks good. She'll also look good in an orange jumpsuit, when she's arrested for her war crimes along with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.


GravatarI really dislike modern pieces which are 'specially composed' for a concert

i mean they sound like smash crockery being swung about in a rubbish bag

terrible stuff


Gravatarand these modern pieces usually come along with a long explanation

and I think 'if a piece is good, it doesn't need a long winded explanation' to go with it


GravatarIn Switzerland here, a lot of Italians work in construction. The building next to mine is being renovated and while I was bed-ridden after my tonsilectomy, I would be woken by all these Italian men singing while they were working.

With the smell of freshly baked croissants wafting from the bakery below, I would rub my eyes and wonder if I was in heaven.


GravatarUmmm. You are talking to one.
But I understand exactly what you mean.
Marcellina | 09.08.07 - 10:14 am | #


Marcellina -- my last post was supposed to you, not trademark Dave.

Anyway -- my point is I just have never liked operatic voices.

Singers for me have to sound conversational, or it just seems pretentious.

Matter of taste, obviously....


Gravatarbut thats my taste

if you love modern pieces then thats cool

furthest I'll go is Britten


GravatarAFP ^ | 09-08-2007
MARIAZELL, Austria (AFP) — Pope Benedict XVI blasted Europeans for being selfish and not having enough children


And what have you done to increase the tribe, Benny?


GravatarThey're fine when they're singing opera, but it just sounds weird when they try to sing "popular" songs.


The crossover thing has led to "pop" recordings by singers who have no business doing it. But have you ever heard Eileen Farrell's big band recordings? She was fantastic. And a soprano at the Met. Two completely different ways of singing, and it worked.


GravatarCongress Sends Student Loan Reform Bill To President's Desk


This is good. Especially the part about slashing subsidies to the "scandal plagued private student loan industry."


GravatarThere's something gratingly artificial about classically trained voices that I can't get past.

That's why the Universe sent us Bjork!


GravatarIt leads me on to think a little about democracy. Liberalism, and muscular liberalism in particular, do have this tendency to think of democracy as an end in itself, even a virtue in itself. This is wrong. Without wanting to get too deeply into the Debordian spectacle, it’s a confusion of means and ends. Democracy is a process, not an outcome and certainly not a standard. It may be the best available process for attaining desirable outcomes, but that’s about all you can say.

Benazir is a great example of this. She’s loved outside of Pakistan because she talks the talk about democracy, development and moderation. Also because she’s a Muslim woman who speaks fluent English and sounds modern. In this context, it seems almost churlish to point out that the Bhutto family are Pakistan’s equivalent of the Corleones; that Benazir’s elected government was guilty of corruption on a scale that would have put Roman emperors to shame; or that it was on her watch that the ISI created the Taliban.


http://splinteredsunrise.wordpre...-itself-or-not/


Gravatarboy, it seems everybody is grouchy this morning.


GravatarAnd what have you done to increase the tribe, Benny?
Lime Rickey |


Do the Pope's proclamations get more attention than they used to? Or is that an effect of my particularly disliking this one and increased "news" coverage of everything? Yesterday the WashingtonPost.com had a picture of Ratzi blessing a crowd in Vienna, and I thought, should anyone care about this other than Viennese Catholics?


GravatarWhy you can't watch the rugby in the US.


GravatarBut have you ever heard Eileen Farrell's big band recordings? She was fantastic. And a soprano at the Met. Two completely different ways of singing, and it worked.
Marcellina | 09.08.07 - 10:25 am | #


Actually, yeah. She was kind of the exception that proved etc....


Gravatarmy sister studied Music at university, she plays the cello and also sings

she is the most musical of the family


GravatarShe was there to introduce her aunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h? v=mhY07WXK8j0
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GravatarSimels, it's your opinion, that's fine. As I said, I understand perfectly. To me, much of it is good, but when it's bad (and it sometimes is), it's horrible.

And I like the theater aspect of it. Listening to opera cds at home is boring for me.


Gravatar Pope Benedict XVI blasted Europeans for being selfish and not having enough children

sounds like the wingnuts crying over the loss of the white race....boo-fucking-hoo

why don't you move the vati-can to south america - that's where your support is beyotch....yurop is getting a clue with their socialized education, most italians do not practice roman catholicism 100%...they take the good and laugh away the fascist shit


GravatarAnd I like the theater aspect of it. Listening to opera cds at home is boring for me.
Marcellina | 09.08.07 - 10:30 am | #


I don't mind, in the theater or on CD, listening to opera


GravatarMarcelina - I was responding to his post saying "maybe it is a matter of taste"


Gravatarbut yeah, opinions are not facts


GravatarHICA!

Oy, too many beers, last night...
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Gravatareach to ones own is my mantra


GravatarMoon, many of my friends enjoy it too, but I can't help but tune out. Actually when I come home I have the alternative rock station on.


GravatarDemocracy is a process, not an outcome and certainly not a standard. It may be the best available process for attaining desirable outcomes, but that’s about all you can say.

Yep. As Churchill said, it's the worst system of government there is, except for the rest of them.

What wingers don't get is that you can say the same thing about capitalism. It's the worst economic system blah blah blah....


GravatarWay too serious a discussion over a short skirt...


GravatarHagel retiring...?!?

OMFG.
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GravatarI love listening to certain arias at home. Depending on my mood.

These voices are like musical instruments and make me envy the singer for being so blessed.


Gravatareach to ones own is my mantra
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:32 am | #


With the exceptions of incest and folk dancing.


GravatarMusic? Sux.


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Gravatarql, no worries, I was responding to this.
Buckeye: my tastes and yours coincide, I'd expect, but I wouldn't dream of enforcing mine on others. A good thing, too...


Jeese Louise, let's go back to in-flight underwear!
Mormons don't have this problem, that's for sure.


GravatarHagel retiring...?!?

OMFG.
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Jeffraham Prestonia


Meh.

The replacement will either be a whackadoo 'winger or Liebercrat Kerrey.

At best a lateral move.


GravatarThe morning Pavarotti died the classical station here played his Rigoletto.
Glorious.

And I'm not really an opera fan.


GravatarWith the exceptions of incest and folk dancing.

i think folk dancing should only be done with rattlesnakes - that's entertainment!


GravatarDon't let this happen to you...!


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GravatarSomeone tried to get me to do voice work - commercials, books on tape, etc - because my voice is so musical when speaking.


GravatarYour favourite tenor sucks.

[/joke]


GravatarPatsy Cline had a great voice.

For some reason, "Crazy" has been going through my head for the last few minutes.....


GravatarConason in Salon, this morning:
...If the civilian casualty numbers have been fiddled with and fudged, what about the number of Iraqi police and soldiers killed each month? Consider the same six-month periods -- and let's call them "Friedman Units" -- in 2005, 2006 and 2007 for a fair comparison. Between March and August 2005, a total of 1,501 Iraqi police and troops were killed. During the same period last year, a total of 1,124 were killed

And yes, it's linked to dKosopedia...


GravatarI have developed a hypothesis which concerns communication. When individuals express themselves imprecisely, or listeners are careless in their interpretation of what they hear (to say nothing of compounded miscommunication by the latter following upon the former), unintended social friction can occur.

This may very well appear to many to be a statement of such a trivial and obvious nature that its importance can easily be overlooked. I recall a discussion thread about music not too long ago where someone reiterated a distinction in expressing preferences that I had long felt ought to be employed when discussing matters of individual taste. As a matter of polite discourse and recognition of one's overall place in the grand scheme of things, I submit that it is better to offer the observation that one does not personally care for musical compositions generally regarded as belonging to the genre Country and Western, than to hold forth the opinion that "Country music stinks" or, the even more egregiously ill-tempered, "People who like that wangy shit can kiss my ass."

Thank you for your indulgence.


GravatarWhat's wrong with folk dancing?
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Gravatar(George Packer on NPR arguing that we can't do anything in Iraq, because nothing we do will make anything better and anything we do will make things worse. So we have to think very hard about why we should do nothing. He is Very Serious.)


GravatarPatsy Cline had a great voice.

For some reason, "Crazy" has been going through my head for the last few minutes.....



I have GOT to get a hold of those little smiley emoticons so I can express laughing out loud.


GravatarFor some reason, "Crazy" has been going through my head for the last few minutes.....
Jim


Watching the Hitchens' rerun on BookTV?
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GravatarThe morning Pavarotti died the classical station here played his Rigoletto.
Glorious.


Pavarotti couldn't read music and when he practiced a role, sang an octave lower then he did while performing on stage (to save his voice).

Or, so I've heard.


GravatarWatching the Hitchens' rerun on BookTV?
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QuentinCompson


No, but that works too


GravatarAre Domingo and Carreras in this throng?

They did show Bono.


GravatarProm 72: The Last Night of the Proms

With final echoes of Shakespeare in works by Dvořák and Thomas Adčs, and a rare revival for the anniversary of Elgar – who has long occupied a central place in the Last Night festivities – the BBC SO and Chorus are joined by a Russian soprano and an American violinist whose star qualities bring a fitting climax to this season marking 80 years of the BBC’s running of the Proms. Jiří Bělohlávek conducts the Last Night for the first time.


thats what I'll be watching this evening


Gravatarflyover with the italian tri colors in smoke.

carried the coffin out. I asked who was carrying the coffin and my wife commented that it looked like it was heavy.


GravatarI think I'll do something different, and go to Crack'ho Barrel from breakie this mornin'. I'm cravin' some Mama's Freedom Toast Breakfast, I am.
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Gravatar I'm cravin' some Mama's Freedom Toast Breakfast, I am.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Tell me you're kidding.... Do they really call it that?


Gravatarwhen he practiced a role, sang an octave lower then he did while performing on stage (to save his voice)

This is completely normal. Stage rehearsals last for hours, you repeat sections over and over again, why sing full out? Full-out singing usually begins when the orchestra shows up, about a week before opening night.


GravatarJim: Tell me you're kidding.... Do they really call it that?

No... and most don't call it the disrespectful "Crack'ho Barrel," either, but I'm not well in the haid.
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GravatarSeptember 8, 2007 -- A female transit cop was shot as she wrestled with a thug who put her in a headlock and pointed a gun at her yesterday on a Bronx subway platform, authorities said.

I'd feel much safer without female cops and firemen.

They need to meet the same requirements as a man or find another line of work. Period.


Gravatar Shocking video of Al Gore being an energy pig again. Fuck you Al, you are destroying our mother with carbon emissions


GravatarMarcellina -

: lol :

without the spaces.



GravatarWas Pavarotti really a giant?

Luciano Pavarotti may have had the more beautiful voice, argues Michael Henderson, but Placido Domingo was the superior artist.


heh


Gravatarmornin'...

anybody in here ready for a bloody mary, yet?


Gravatar submit that it is better to offer the observation that one does not personally care for musical compositions generally regarded as belonging to the genre Country and Western, than to hold forth the opinion that "Country music stinks" or, the even more egregiously ill-tempered, "People who like that wangy shit can kiss my ass."

Thank you for your indulgence.
catalexis who ♥ Al Gore | 09.08.07 - 10:39 am | #


Agreed.

Although every now and then it's fun to be snarky....


GravatarOK, here's a test run...



GravatarWas Pavarotti really a giant?

Not a giant, but rather portly.


GravatarShocking video of Al Gore being an energy pig again. Fuck you Al, you are destroying our mother with carbon emissions

You are so believable. I think I will watch your video from the Drudge Report because he is so trustworthy.


Gravatararound the country, various Proms in the Park are behind held

its a shame I'm not still in Swansea, as one is being held at Singleton Park, which is right next to the Uni


GravatarMuchas gracias Lindsay!


GravatarThe technology behind the mobile phone is celebrating its 20th anniversary.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/techn...ogy/ 6983869.stm


Gravatarthe BUSH™ Twins may outlive me but THANK GODDESS i will outlive the Cheneys!!!


GravatarThey need to meet the same requirements as a man or find another line of work. Period.
sayin'


That whole male invulnerability to being shot - hard for a girl to match....


GravatarOK, lunch.

Please don't tolerate the trolls.


GravatarDe nada, Marcellina.


Gravatarthe BUSH™ Twins may outlive me but THANK GODDESS i will outlive the Cheneys!!!
n69n


How can you outlive the UNDEAD!?!?!?!?!?!?


GravatarThey need to meet the same requirements as a man or find another line of work. Period.
sayin'


Lawrence Summers, is that you?


Gravatar"OK, here's a test run..."

mission accomplished!


Gravatar
I'd feel much safer without female cops and firemen.

They need to meet the same requirements as a man or find another line of work. Period.
sayin' | 09.08.07 - 10:45 am | #


Bite me.

Also sayin'.


GravatarWhy are these people in charge of anything?

http://www.warcomeshome.org/cont...ob.%2526quot% 3B


GravatarWasn't Herr Kristol recently boasting about how it was great that almost a year after the election Bush had put tens of thousands more troops in Iraq.

A fine policy if you are a frat boy on a golf course.

-GSD


GravatarI'd feel much safer without female cops and firemen.

Just because no male cops or firemen have ever been injured or killed in the line of duty.....

...oh, wait....


Gravatarthe BUSH™ Twins may outlive me but THANK GODDESS i will outlive the Cheneys!!!
n69n


Even the the you-know-what daughter?


GravatarYou are so believable. I think I will watch your video from the Drudge Report because he is so trustworthy.
Snow, Liberal | 09.08.07 - 10:48 am


So you are saying that Al doesn't jet around with Leonardo? Carbon emission is carbon emission dude whether it comes from a Fundie assholes SUV or an eco-elitist


GravatarMany of us love a red admiral, or a painted lady, or a small tortoiseshell, some of Britain's loveliest butterflies. But how many of us are charmed by the sight of a garden tiger, an oak eggar, or a six-spot burnet?

These are some of Britain's most beautiful moths, every bit as attractive as their butterfly cousins, but very much less familiar. Even natural history enthusiasts could be hard put to identify them.

But a remarkable new field guide aims to change that, and open widespread interest in Britain's fascinating moth fauna. It is called The Concise Guide to The Moths of Great Britain and Ireland and is one of those books that come along every now and then and cause a revolution.


http:// environment.independent.c...icle2941851.ece


Gravatar"A police officer was shot in a struggle with a man he confronted near his own house while on patrol, and police from more than a dozen departments searched for the suspect with helicopters and dogs Thursday."

I guess men aren't invulnerable to their own guns.


GravatarDamn Japanese, keepin' their best stuff over there!
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GravatarAt least those girls on the force should dress a little more modestly!



http://www.forplaycatalog.com/st...=& page_number=1


GravatarSo you are saying that Al doesn't jet around with Leonardo? Carbon emission is carbon emission dude whether it comes from a Fundie assholes SUV or an eco-elitist


So what?

You are an idiot of monumental proportions.


GravatarSo you are saying that Al doesn't jet around with Leonardo?

No. I am saying you're a fucking bullshitter.


Gravataran eco-elitist
Save-Gaia | 09.08.07 - 10:55 am | #


Your concern has been noted....

Asshole.


GravatarAlthough every now and then it's fun to be snarky....

Indeed it is. Furthering that thought, I have come to the conclusion that the argument over certain "taboo" terms in artistic works is misguided. Paintings, poems, songs, plays, other dramatic or comic or, indeed, overtly political expressions, should absolutely not be held to the same standards as are polite discourse, official pronouncements, formal pedagogical presentations and the like.

I further submit, it is not meet that we should assault the unwilling in every place, and at all times, with our 'uncomfortable' art. That there should be liminal, sacred places wherein the expressions that offend some are not to be denied so should there be a more tranquil commons where a least disruptive behavior standard is enforced. Don't close down my theater and I won't sing "Cop Killer" on your church doorstep.


GravatarCarbon emission is carbon emission dude whether it comes from a Fundie assholes SUV or an eco-elitist

And oddly enough, some people do what they can to reduce their carbon footprint.


GravatarThe Fed Must Get Moving
We have an old-fashioned financial panic on our hands, and it needs a central-bank fix.

By Larry Kudlow


Please don't interfere with the magic of the marketplace.


GravatarRepublican support for this war is largely driven by their understanding that its continuation really pisses off liberals.




Which is ALSO why the assholes insist global warming doesn't exist....despite all evidence to the contrary.

These are just mean-spirited, small-minded people.


Gravatarthanks for the police porn, marcellina.

Sheriff's Zip Up Romper is my favorite...


GravatarAt least those girls on the force should dress a little more modestly!

Wherez the velvet handcuffs?


Gravatarsteve s -

I'm listening to the new Richard Thompson album I just picked up recently.

Nice.


GravatarThe Sydney Declaration: "The world needs to slow, stop and then reverse the growth of global greenhouse gas emissions," the declaration says




No word on how, why or when.


More leg pulling from world leaders.


GravatarSheriff's Zip Up Romper is my favorite...

I was rather fond of that one myself.

It must say something deeply disturbing about our characters.


Gravatarhttp://www.comcast.net/news/poli.../08/ 758400.html


Oh, shut up, Fred.


And go and change your underwear.


GravatarNTodd: And oddly enough, some people do what they can to reduce their carbon footprint.

Nah.
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GravatarSheriff's Zip Up Romper is my favorite...

That's going to be the new Air Marshall uniform, I've heard.


GravatarDon't close down my theater and I won't sing "Cop Killer" on your church doorstep.
catalexis who ♥ Al Gore | 09.08.07 - 11:00 am | #


Tell it to Rudy Guiliani.

I was never more embarassed to be New Yorker than when he tried to shut down a fucking art museum because it offended his delicate sensibilities.

What an asshole....


GravatarLook out, Rudy.

The mouthbreathers won't LIKE you.


http://www.comcast.net/news/ poli...qh=itn_guiliani


GravatarNTodd: And oddly enough, some people do what they can to reduce their carbon footprint.

Nah.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Keep it under 35, okay?


GravatarThe Great Tradition continues!!!

Premiering tonight on the Sci-Fi Channel:

"Maneater" (2007) with Gary Busey!!!!


GravatarIt must say something deeply disturbing about our characters.
Toonscribe: UDFH Local 839 | 09.08.07 - 11:05 am | #

you may have the same taste in officer attire, but there is no way that you could be as deeply disturbed as i am.


GravatarCan't wait:

Bush to address war-weary Americans on Iraq

SYDNEY (Reuters) - President George W. Bush will address a war-weary American public next week to "lay out a vision" for the U.S. role in Iraq as he tries to sell his strategy in the wake of a crucial report to Congress.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070..._nm/ iraq_usa_dc


GravatarI love the attention and reaction I get when I say say provocative things.

I never respond to reaction in a thoughtful way.

I'm sooo bad.


GravatarI don't know anyone could take HIM seriously.

The man is just as dumb as Chimpy.


http://www.comcast.net/news/poli.../07/ 758175.html


GravatarCan't wait:

Bush to address war-weary Americans on Iraq




"9-11....Al Qaeda....war on turra...fight them there so we don't have to fight there here...9-11....Al Qaeda....war on turra...fight them there so we don't have to fight there here...9-11....Al Qaeda....war on turra...fight them there so we don't have to fight there here...9-11....Al Qaeda....war on turra...fight them there so we don't have to fight there here...9-11....Al Qaeda....war on turra...fight them there so we don't have to fight there here..."


Gravatar"Maneater" (2007) with Gary Busey!!!!

Is that the Larry Craig bio pic?


GravatarPresident George W. Bush will address a war-weary American public next week to "lay out a vision" for the U.S. role in Iraq as he tries to sell his strategy in the wake of a crucial report to Congress.

Whens the last time this prick sat down behind his desk and addressed the nation? Not that he'd say anything worth listening to , but I seem to recall presidents making serious policy changes behind their desk on teevee.


GravatarNTodd: Keep it under 35, okay?

With my commute? Unpossible!
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GravatarI was never more embarassed to be New Yorker than when he tried to shut down a fucking art museum because it offended his delicate sensibilities.

What an asshole....
steve simels



Julie Annie gives new meaning to the word "hypocrite."


GravatarI was never more embarassed to be New Yorker than when he tried to shut down a fucking art museum because it offended his delicate sensibilities.


I remember that! He was soundly mocked for that authoritarian episode IIRC. I suppose the metaphor I think of for expressing my preference to see some return to compartmentalizing of social behavior, besides the church/state issue that has been much discussed lately, is dinner. I like steak, potatoes, vegetables, wine, dessert for dinner. I like them all there before me that I may taste of them in whatever order and amount I choose. I would not want them pureed together and served up in a mug with a straw.


GravatarI was surprised at the similarities between Mormonism and Scientology.

They both have dietary and other rules to live by --Scientology needs a better name.


GravatarI was never more embarassed to be New Yorker than when he tried to shut down a fucking art museum because it offended his delicate sensibilities.

When she was mayor, DiFi tried to shut down the Mitchell Brothers. She even sent in a squad of SFPD on a raid, who carried Marilyn Chambers out.

The Mitchells, the courts, and the general population laughed in her face.


GravatarMay I just say that I'm fucking glad Cindy Sheehan is running against Pelosi and that I'm hope she wins?

If somebody can give me a good reason to re-elect Pelosi I'd love to hear it....


GravatarYour "visions" ain't worth shit, Dumbya. Get a new deck of Tarot cards.


GravatarWait a minute - isn't this schmuck a multi-millionaire?


CAIRO, Egypt - In a new video released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, Osama bin Laden made no overt threats but lectured Americans on the Iraq war and criticized global capitalism, calling its leaders the real terrorists.


GravatarThe aforementioned Gotye.

Coming Back.


GravatarDeep thoughts from SF.


GravatarWhen she was mayor, DiFi tried to shut down the Mitchell Brothers.



Remember during the Night Stalker killings, and she called a press conference and pretty much outlined everything the police knew and/or had?


Real dumb, Di!


Gravatar"Not that he'd say anything worth listening to , but I seem to recall presidents making serious policy changes behind their desk on teevee."

can't wait for the press responce: lincolesque, churchillian, trumanesque.


the public yawns and says fuck you, but the dems still cowed.


GravatarIf somebody can give me a good reason to re-elect Pelosi I'd love to hear it....
steve simels



I'm pretty pissed off at Pelosi right now myself.


GravatarJeffraham hates our environment!


Gravatar"can't wait for the press response: lincolesque, churchillian, trumanesque."



Sickening, isn't it?

He may even make Tweety love him again.

I'm waiting to see Keith's response.


GravatarMay I just say that I'm fucking glad Cindy Sheehan is running against Pelosi and that I'm hope she wins?

She won't win, but she will get 40% of the vote.

And if Pelosi wins the primary by less than 60%, it will count as a "defeat."

Fuck you, Nancy. Fuck. You.


GravatarNTodd: Jeffraham hates our environment!

True, but I hate it at a slower pace than most.
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Gravatar"I'm pretty pissed off at Pelosi right now myself."

i'm angry at all of 'em. the news is just continually depressing...


GravatarPelosi needs a wake-up call.


Most badly.


GravatarPelosi is indeed a disappointment.


GravatarReal dumb, Di!

The great cartoonist Dan O'Neill once obliquely referred to her as "the dumbest broad to ever stroll out of the high-rent district."

She owes her career to Dan White. She was pretty much washed up as a Supe when she was thrust into the mayorship.


GravatarShe even sent in a squad of SFPD on a raid, who carried Marilyn Chambers out.

The Mitchells, the courts, and the general population laughed in her face.
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 11:16 am | #


Gravatari'm angry at all of 'em. the news is just continually depressing...
jdw



Like I said the other day, I'm REAL close to changing my registration to Independent.


GravatarPresident George W. Bush will address a war-weary American public next week to "lay out a vision" for the U.S. role in Iraq as he tries to sell his strategy in the wake of a crucial report to Congress.

"No, I swear! This time it'll work! Trust me!"


GravatarBush will address a war-weary American public next week to "lay out a vision" for the U.S. role in Iraq as he tries to sell his strategy in the wake of a crucial report to Congress.





"Wahhhh! Why won't you all listen to me? God made me preznit, you know."


GravatarHey, watertiger - why aincha on the way to Muir Woods?

There's no parking after 11!


GravatarBTW, there's a Mel's on Van Ness and Geary that makes a pretty decent breakfast...


Gravatar"lay out a vision"

Unbelievable.


GravatarSimels has the slanties...


GravatarBush will address a war-weary American public next week to "lay out a vision" for the U.S. role in Iraq as he tries to sell his strategy in the wake of a crucial report to Congress.

Is there any chance that "vision" will include bugs crawling up his arm and pink elephants floating around the room? You know, like his normal "visions"?


Gravatar"lay out a vision"



"Oh, the VISION thing."

George H.W. Bush


GravatarWow!

Sen. Chuck Hagel is set to announce Monday that he is retiring from the Senate and that he won’t join the race for the White House in 2008, the Omaha World-Herald newspaper reported on its Web site Friday night, citing “people close” to the Republican from Nebraska.

The newspaper reported that Hagel told Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of his decision on Friday morning. The Nebraskan’s staff learned of the decision Friday afternoon, the World-Herald reported.


That's a surprise. I really thought he'd have the best chance at winning the nomination.


Gravatarbye for now


GravatarI think this is one of those contexts in which "vision" is best thought of as a synonym for "hallucination."


GravatarLet's try this again.

She even sent in a squad of SFPD on a raid, who carried Marilyn Chambers out.
dave™© | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 11:16 am | #


I interviewed Marilyn Chambers, sometime in the late 80s. She had some cable show on Cinemax or whatever...

A little leathery, but she was still quite gorgeous.


GravatarAt the moment there ain't shit I want to hear from the whole lot of them.


GravatarMike Zwerin:

Miles Davis wrote and recorded a tune by the name of "Willie Nelson." And the Country singer Willie had nothing but praise for Miles.

Before Miles died, they had been rumored to be planning some sort of project together. What did the "Prince of Silence" have in common with the hip white country singer?

They both liked to get stoned in their ways. But the ways were quite different so we'll discount that.

They had the same manager, Mark Rothbaum, but that was only part of it. They had the same record company. Their albums - Miles's "We Want Miles" and Willie's "Always On My Mind" (both CBS) - revealed some deep common denominators: understatement, grainy texture, restrained tension, staying power.

Neither of them made disposable music, their records will be around for a while. And both had their own way of reinventing well-known melodies on their own terms. Nelson's "Georgia" and Miles's "If I Were A Bell," for two examples.

Miles was not the first jazz musician to be influenced by country music. Charlie Parker was a Hank Williams fan. When a friend asked why, he said: "Listen to the stories, man. These cats really know how to tell a story."

http://www.culturekiosque.com/ja...s/ rhemiles9.htm

Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be hipsters.
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GravatarI interviewed Marilyn Chambers, sometime in the late 80s.

Remind me to tell you my Mitchell Brothers story when next we meet...


GravatarGreat post up at Huffington on the trap laid for Dems:
The essence of Greek tragedy is that protagonists move inexorably to a climax the audience can anticipate before the characters discover their fate. As the curtain rises for Washington's battle over Iraq, Congressional leaders must reject the role President Bush has scripted for them in his Iraq tragedy. Otherwise, in January 2009, a newly-elected president will find himself or herself waist deep in a quagmire that will dominate their one term presidency.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gr...p- _b_63511.html


GravatarDamn Japanese, keepin' their best stuff over there!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 10:56 am


We need to find a way to get Jeffraham to Macau for the scooter race of Grand Prix weekend.


GravatarI've never liked Pelosi. I'm a woman, but her historical achievement meant nothing to me. For me, a woman who looks like that at 67 is just Ronald Reagan in a dress.
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GravatarWe need to find a way to get Jeffraham to Macau for the scooter race of Grand Prix weekend.
Tom - 大肚腩


They run that in the streets as well?

I've "run" the Macau course in my GTR2 game . . . man, talk about nerve wracking.


GravatarThat's a surprise. I really thought he'd have the best chance at winning the nomination.
pie | 09.08.07 - 11:27 am | #


Me too. Especially considering he owns the voting machines....


GravatarOh,

Happy Birthday Neko Case!!


GravatarA collaboration we can all do without.

I saw a commercial today. Country artists doing that stupid Christian music.


Charlie Daniels' rendition of "Our God Is An Awesome God". Heaven can wait!


GravatarTom - 大肚腩: We need to find a way to get Jeffraham to Macau for the scooter race of Grand Prix weekend.

Naw. Waste of fuel.
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GravatarFor me, a woman who looks like that at 67 is just Ronald Reagan in a dress.



I've always considered Margaret Thatcher Ronald Reagan in a dress.


GravatarMe too. Especially considering he owns the voting machines....

I didn't like his politics, but I thought he has a bit of integrity and intelligence.

Hate to see that kind go, while Inhofe and Cornyn and the rest of the dumbasses stay in.


GravatarBush will address a war-weary American public next week to "lay out a vision" for the U.S. role in Iraq

Good thing he's finally getting around to it.


GravatarI'm not backing any Democrat who doesn't come out as being completely AGAINST Bush's ego war.


SAN FRANCISCO - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, hoping to make inroads with women voters, urged an overwhelmingly female audience on Friday to risk supporting him instead of someone "who will deliver competently more of the same."


GravatarNTodd, who called you a Pig-headed Coward?


GravatarNTodd, who called you a Pig-headed Coward?
Marcellina


That's outrageous.

NTodd CAN be pig-headed at times.

But a coward? Fuck no!


GravatarDemocratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, hoping to make inroads with women voters, urged an overwhelmingly female audience on Friday to risk supporting him instead of someone "who will deliver competently more of the same."
Terry C - Bush Enablers R Nutz


I'm with you there, Terry. Barack sounds like he'll keep doing more of the same as far as the war is concerned, while at the same time telling us all about how we to "embrace" the evangelicals. Fuck that noise.


Gravatar Hey, watertiger - why aincha on the way to Muir Woods?


oh, fuck.


GravatarFReeper sez muzzies will exterminate the left first:

First of all, a man on kidney dialosis machine doesn’t suddenly die his beard and look younger living in a cave molesting goats! He is only winning with the left because they share the same values, utter contempt and hatrid of the United States, only the left is too damn stupid to realize that they will be the ones muzzie first exterminate due to their immoral life styles!

Don't knock goat till you've tried it.


GravatarI'd put up some kitteh pixels, but they's hidin' this mornin'. I think their usual routine must be that after I leave for work, they go take a nice nap.
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GravatarConason discovers the FU over at Salon:

If the civilian casualty numbers have been fiddled with and fudged, what about the number of Iraqi police and soldiers killed each month? Consider the same six-month periods -- and let's call them "Friedman Units" -- in 2005, 2006 and 2007 for a fair comparison...."


GravatarFor me, a woman who looks like that at 67 is just Ronald Reagan in a dress.
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Sparkle Plenty


Am I reading this wrong, or are you criticizing Pelosi for the way she looks? What does that matter?


GravatarFReeper sez muzzies will exterminate the left first:

Tell me you didn't chance any of the spelling?

I guess this means Osama's now gotta tell that joke: "When al-Fezzia blew up all those embassies no one call him al-Fezzia the Embassy Bomber--"


GravatarHappy Birthday Neko Case!!
Zap Rowsdower, ♥s Popov | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 11:31 am | #


Check PowerPop today...

It's actually kind of weird that Neko, Aimee Mann and Chrissie Hynde all have the same birfday....


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They run that in the streets as well?

I've "run" the Macau course in my GTR2 game . . . man, talk about nerve wracking.
Supreme Commander Thor | 09.08.07 - 11:31 am


Yeah, same race as the motorcycles and cars. But it's a race just for the scooters. Mostly locals, but some of the pro auto and motocycle guys go out on the scooters for fun.


Gravatar
i'm angry at all of 'em. the news is just continually depressing...




No, the news is insane. Utterly, completely and miserably insane.


Gravataronly the left is too damn stupid to realize that they will be the ones muzzie first exterminate due to their immoral life styles!


They will never get it, will they? It's not the immoral lifestyle in itself, it's imposing it on the rest of the world! Otherwise 9-11 would have taken place in Amsterdam.


GravatarGeez, I went back to sleep earlier this morning, puttered around a bit after waking up, come back and review the last thread, and discover that my good name was maligned for being a *gasp* high school band geek!

Hmph.


GravatarYeah, same race as the motorcycles and cars. But it's a race just for the scooters. Mostly locals, but some of the pro auto and motocycle guys go out on the scooters for fun.
Tom - 大肚腩


That sounds like it could be fun. Then you finish, hit a casino, get drunk and lose all your winnings!


GravatarTell me you didn't chance any of the spelling?

Not a sillable.


GravatarCheck PowerPop today...

C'mon, steve.

I check it out everyday!


GravatarYo, watertiger - is res up?

If so, I'll call...


GravatarNTodd, who called you a Pig-headed Coward?

Duane V. Said I was a pig-headed idiot and coward.

And he's hurt that for some reason I don't like him.


GravatarIt's not the immoral lifestyle in itself, it's imposing it on the rest of the world! Otherwise 9-11 would have taken place in Amsterdam.

More likely the bombers would have hit The Bulldog, smoked hash, got a hooker and said, "Fuck it: what are we here for again?"


GravatarFirst of all, a man on kidney dialosis machine doesn’t suddenly die his beard and look younger living in a cave molesting goats! He is only winning with the left because they share the same values, utter contempt and hatrid of the United States, only the left is too damn stupid to realize that they will be the ones muzzie first exterminate due to their immoral life styles!

I started my jihad yesterday.


GravatarI HATE religious fanatics.

(Scroll down to the part about the man who asked his physician to disconnect his respirator.)

http://www.comcast.net/entertain.../08/ 758468.html


GravatarThat sounds like it could be fun. Then you finish, hit a casino, get drunk and lose all your winnings!
Supreme Commander Thor | 09.08.07 - 11:43 am


and lots and lots of new casinos. including the new Venetian, which is the biggest in the world.

but go see St Pauls ruins and get some steamed milk and a portuguese egg tart.


GravatarHappy Birthday Neko Case!!
Zap Rowsdower, ♥s Popov


It likely will come as no surprise to any of you to learn that I'd hit it.


GravatarBush will address a war-weary American public next week to "lay out a vision" for the U.S. role in Iraq

Good thing he's finally getting around to it.
NTodd, Pig-headed Coward

But he had 87 books that had to be read, where's he supposed to get the time?


GravatarI check it out everyday!
Zap Rowsdower, ♥s Popov | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 11:44 am | #


I love you.

In a non Larry Craig way, of course.


Gravatar"First of all, a man on kidney dialosis machine doesn’t suddenly die his beard and look younger living in a cave molesting goats! He is only winning with the left because they share the same values, utter contempt and hatrid of the United States, only the left is too damn stupid to realize that they will be the ones muzzie first exterminate due to their immoral life styles!"


How does one live carrying that much hate and stupidity around?


GravatarAnd he's hurt that for some reason I don't like him.

NTodd's got SPS:

Stacotto Pancake Syndrome


Gravatartelling us all about how we to "embrace" the evangelicals. Fuck that noise.


There's a long Mother Jones article on Hillary's religion. Paints her as a lot more evangelical than I'd have guessed.

It was an elegant example of the Clinton style, a rhetorical maneuver subtle, bold, and banal all at once. During a Democratic candidate forum in June, hosted by the liberal evangelical group Sojourners, Hillary Clinton fielded a softball query about Bill's infidelity: How had her faith gotten her through the Lewinsky scandal?

After a glancing shot at Republican "pharisees," Clinton explained that, of course, her "very serious" grounding in faith had helped her weather the affair. But she had also relied on the "extended faith family" that came to her aid, "people whom I knew who were literally praying for me in prayer chains, who were prayer warriors for me."


Excuse me while I go puke.


http://www.motherjones.com/news/...rys- prayer.html


GravatarSerious question for discussion today: why are Republicans more scandalous than Democrats? Or are they?


Gravatarand lots and lots of new casinos. including the new Venetian, which is the biggest in the world.

I was reading about that one just last week. I guess there'll be even a bigger push now to get that causeway built between Hong Kong and Macau, so people can just drive/bus/take the train over and not have to wait on the Turbo Cats.


GravatarOh... and while you're in Macau, go look for bin Laden.

The photo is 3 and a half years ago, but last time over I stopped by the same area to see if it was still up and bin Laden is still there.


GravatarEXCLUSIVE: Former Sen. Intel Chair Reports White House Misled About Wiretap Briefings

... In a recent interview with ThinkProgress, Sen. Graham told us that, after the controversy erupted in late 2005, the White House provided him with dates when they alleged Graham had been briefed. Graham said he consulted his famous spiral bound notebooks and determined he had not been briefed on these dates:

"When I got those dates, I went back to my notebooks and checked and found that on most of the dates there were no meetings held. In fact, in several of them, I wasn’t in Washington when the meetings were supposed to have taken place. So I stand by what I said."

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09...ham- wiretapping

Off with their heads!
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GravatarSYDNEY, Australia - President Bush said Saturday that Osama bin Laden's first video appearance in three years is a reminder of "the dangerous world in which we live."

Funny, Every time I look at Chimpy and Deadeye, I think the same thing.


Gravatar"He is only winning with the left because they share the same values, utter contempt and hatrid of the United States"



Because we don't piss our pants like the rightards do everytime OBL or AQ is mentioned, we're on OBL's side.

I have utter contempt and HATRED for freepers and other Bush enablers.


GravatarSince I started molesting goats, my hair has become darker and fuller, and I haven't felt so healthy in years!


GravatarHere's a thought.

Osama Bin Laden has been the most Wanted Man in the World for going on six years.

Why haven't we caught him?

(a) He has supernatural powers, kinda like Dr. Fu Manchu, and is thus uncatchable

or

(b) We're not really trying to catch him, because Bush needs him as the bogeyman. Kind of like that Jewish fella in "1984."


GravatarGotta go to work. Later, Moonbats, it's been nice chatting with ya.


GravatarI was reading about that one just last week. I guess there'll be even a bigger push now to get that causeway built between Hong Kong and Macau, so people can just drive/bus/take the train over and not have to wait on the Turbo Cats.
Supreme Commander Thor | 09.08.07 - 11:48 am


There will be no train on the bridge between here and there. and without that, there are a bunch of us who are rather futilely trying to stop its construction due to environmental issues.

But when the Politburo wants something, the Politburo tends to get what they want.


GravatarThere's a long Mother Jones article on Hillary's religion. Paints her as a lot more evangelical than I'd have guessed.

I've been seeing some of this as well. I am tired of all these holy rolling assholes and their Jesus love. How about a Wiccan, a Hindu, a Buddhist? Anything but another fuckin' Christian!


GravatarI vote fu manchu.


It's the beard that does it for me.


Gravatar(a) He has supernatural powers, kinda like Dr. Fu Manchu, and is thus uncatchable

or

(b) We're not really trying to catch him, because Bush needs him as the bogeyman. Kind of like that Jewish fella in "1984."
steve simels |


or

(c) He's dead and has been for years.


GravatarWe're not really trying to catch him, because Bush needs him as the bogeyman. Kind of like that Jewish fella in "1984."

Osama's a Jew?

Well, that explains a lot!


GravatarThere will be no train on the bridge between here and there. and without that, there are a bunch of us who are rather futilely trying to stop its construction due to environmental issues.

But when the Politburo wants something, the Politburo tends to get what they want.
Tom - 大肚腩


No train? Makes no sense, particularly with the Airport Express going about a third of the way already. That's very stupid.

Or is that very Politburo?


GravatarExcuse me while I go puke.


You might as well face facts - they're all going to bring it up. And if it helped her in some way get through that very difficult time, so what.


GravatarOsama's a Jew?

Yes, his real name is Emmanuel bin Ladenstein.


GravatarI meant "Ben Ladenstein."


GravatarI vote (b).


Gravatar
Yes, his real name is Emmanuel bin Ladenstein.



THE Emanuel?


GravatarHe is only winning with the left because they share the same values, utter contempt and hatrid of the United States

Yeah, he won me over. I just so want to oppress women and make them wear burkas.

Okay, maybe just Ann Coulter.


GravatarI'm watching Pavarotti's funeral live on Italian tv here in Schwitzerland


GravatarI heard there used to be a clinic in Switzerland that used goat glands to rejuvenate elderly gents. Maybe Osama got the secret formula somehow.


GravatarSYDNEY, Australia - President Bush said Saturday that Osama bin Laden's first video appearance in three years is a reminder of "the dangerous world in which we live."

Funny, Every time I look at Chimpy and Deadeye, I think the same thing.
pie | 09.08.07 - 11:48 am


Well ya didn't think that Chimpy and Big Time Dick were watching the caskets come home at Andrews.


GravatarI have no problem with evangelical groups like the Sojourners. They are more effective progressives than 99% of the commenters here. Look, everybody has their own spiritual fantasy/hallucination somewhere, somehow. If theirs is that there's this G-d thing that tells them to promote justice for all on earth and especially for the poor and powerless, then I'm down for that mass halucination no matter what it's called.


GravatarYesterday, St. Petersburg City Council chairman John Bryan resigned his seat following a custody hearing in which he answered allegations of sexual misconduct with two teenage daughters. Bryan then drove to his home in Citrus County and committed suicide.



His own kids? Jesus Chripes on iceskates!


GravatarWhen Osama speaks climate change, I listen!


GravatarI have no problem with evangelical groups like the Sojourners. They are more effective progressives than 99% of the commenters here.

Your concern is noted.


GravatarTHE Emanuel?

Yes, of the Chicago Ladensteins. You know them? Big acting family in the vaudeville days.


GravatarWhen Osama speaks climate change, I listen!

More evidence that him and Al Gore are in cahoots.


GravatarI have no problem with evangelical groups like the Sojourners. They are more effective progressives than 99% of the commenters here.



Come again?


GravatarHis own kids? Jesus Chripes on iceskates!

There's a serious counseling bill. Those poor kids.


GravatarThey are more effective progressives than 99% of the commenters here.

What the fuck does that mean?


GravatarHis own kids? Jesus Chripes on iceskates!
Terry C - Bush Enablers R Nutz


Yep. Adopted daughters. Here's the full story.


GravatarThey get more done together for a just cause.


GravatarI am tired of all these holy rolling assholes and their Jesus love. How about a Wiccan, a Hindu, a Buddhist? Anything but another fuckin' Christian!

I'd like to hear one of them say, "You know, there very well may be some sort of collective intelligence, or 'force' if you will, that permeates the universe and that an individual can tap into if they know how. But if you think that 'force' gives a flying fuck about you personally, you're batshit crazy."


Gravatar
Yes, of the Chicago Ladensteins. You know them? Big acting family in the vaudeville days.


See, I thought you were talking about the soft porn starlet Emanuel.


Nevermind.


Gravatar"From the dais, Bryan was both gruff and blunt. He would correct residents who misspoke, and he did not take criticism quietly. More than once, he threatened to remove council visitors who clapped or spoke out of turn at meetings."


Chripes, these Repugs are all alike.


Gravatar"The mistakes of Brezhnev are being repeated by Bush," Bin Laden said on the tape....


They should tattoo that on Giuliani and Romney's foreheads.


GravatarBig acting family in the vaudeville days.
NTodd, Pig-headed Coward | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 11:56 am | #


Did a wonderful production of "Abie's Irish Rose" with Molly Picon and Sam Levene.


GravatarEarlier in the day, Bryan attended a custody hearing in circuit court in Pinellas County where he agreed not to have any contact with two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15, whom he allegedly abused sexually.

Is it wrong of me to say I'm glad this guy smoked himself?

No, it's not.


Gravatarowls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarMore than once, he threatened to remove council visitors who clapped or spoke out of turn at meetings.

One can only imagine the hell his family went through on a daily basis.

Good riddance, motherfucker.


GravatarThey get more done together for a just cause.

And what the fuck does that mean?


GravatarSinfonian, I have a feeling that the reason there seem to be so many hypocrites in the GOP is not that the GOP induces hypocrisy, but that the fearful, disturbed, self-hating types seek to hide within the GOP rather than face whatever ostensibly non-normative urges they have. They feel comforted belonging to the "daddy party", and outwardly conform to hide their shame. Liberals do not offer forgiveness, absolution, do-overs, or punishment -- they are the party of acceptance. (That's liberals, not necessarily Democrats who have a checkered history wrt social tolerance.)


GravatarI have no problem with evangelical groups like the Sojourners. They are more effective progressives than 99% of the commenters here.

How cute.

Of course, you know how "progressive" each and every one of us is, right?


GravatarBut if you think that 'force' gives a flying fuck about you personally, you're batshit crazy."
dave™©


Indeed. As a wise man once linked to someone who said (damn, that syntax bites): Say "FUCK" or "FUCKING" then refuse to apologize. Especially you Obama, you could be the Samuel L. Jackson of this election. Say something like "THIS WAR IS GETTING AMERICANS FUCKING KILLED" make it look like you care.


GravatarI'd like to hear one of them say, "You know, there very well may be some sort of collective intelligence, or 'force' if you will, that permeates the universe and that an individual can tap into if they know how. But if you think that 'force' gives a flying fuck about you personally, you're batshit crazy."

"Thank you, George Lucas. Gov. Romney, your comments?"

But it would be damn refreshing to hear that just once.


GravatarFuck. What a night.
Time to hire bodyguards.
- Sallyh ~ 5:00 am EST from the Well, Yes Thread

Gonna be out and about most of the day. Give Sallyh my best when she shows up. Stuff is at flashpoint with Soon-to-be-ex SIL.


GravatarOf course, you know how "progressive" each and every one of us is, right?

He can see into your soul!

So you better not pout...


GravatarI'll wait until somebody starts promoting "Global Standard Deity".

(Tuesday Next reference)


GravatarI didn;t say "more progressive" I said "More effective progressives" They use the power of a common hallucination for what most of us would say is good, whereas most other hallucinatory organizations (i.e. religions) manage to be causing a lot of the pain in this world right now.


GravatarStuff is at flashpoint with Soon-to-be-ex SIL.

Damn!


GravatarThere are Evangelicals and there are Evangelicals. I have no problem with the ones that wear their service on their sleeve, on the other hand, ones that wear their religion on their sleeve and yell about god this, god that, and you will burn in hell ...


Gravatareffective progressive
--

Heh.


GravatarThis is nothing. I once saw a guy about 6'2", with a runner's physique, pretty hairy, get on a bus while wearing a woman's pink tennis or skating skirt and no shirt. It was definitely a woman's skirt, unless he'd committed the red socks in the wash blunder. I leave it to your imagination how short it was.

The bus driver was cool about it.

Southwest had better start supplying burkas to female passengers, if that's how they feel about female exposure.


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