I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
O'First
BTW Atrios, how many times are you linking to Yglesias this week?
Even a link to NTodd would be welcome at this point.
well, he has been a harsh critic of the war...
O'Hacklon
cocktail party chatter for goopers who want to appear unattached from Bush's butt
NTodd-AO was a great film format
Upyernoz! You should get a link from Atrios, you're part of the Philly Mafia.
ai kin haz wor wif eyeran?
im n yr wite hows steelin yr ritez
ai kin haz wor wif eyeran?
You did that one yesterday!
i had mishun akomplishd
but i eated it.
Bush should read Sherman.
War is Cruelty
Yes, it's so so terribly sad to admit you've lost a poorly planned war that you lied to wage. So sad...
How out of touch is O'Hanlon?
lol lolbush
Carried over from below:
O'Hanlon is not any worse than his predecessors like Herman Kahn, that fat pile of crap.
Carried from below:
The Clinton Years
Its easy to be critical of Bill. But for the time period, for we liberals, its the best we could do. The country was right of center, the MSM & the big money were overwhelmingly dominant over our political process & liberalism was in a state of disarray.
Clinton was the opening wedge for the left. He broke the right's grip on the presidency & the national discourse. Sure, he wasn't a true liberal but he was the best we could do for the time if we wanted to win.
I have a new iTunes addiction: Ice Road Truckers
oh, yglesias is writing about my current pet issue so he gets links. When my pet issue changes to, say, molesting goats, then ntodd will get links.
When my pet issue changes to, say, molesting goats, then ntodd will get links.
*snicker*
http://www.workingforchange.com/...fm?
itemid=17313
OHacklon the sensible war opponent
Dispute over how deep to cut Iraq troops
Anti-war Democrats and some Republicans want to bring all combat troops home in a matter of months. Generals in Iraq favor starting the transition next year from a predominantly combat role, but only gradually; this approach would leave a six-figure force in Iraq for the next president to command.
About 162,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq now. Some 30,000 were added between January and June as the main element of President Bush's revised strategy to stabilize Baghdad. The first of five Army brigades in that buildup is expected to go home by April, if not a few months earlier.
Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno, the top day-to-day commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, said this month that all five brigades probably would be out of Iraq — and not replaced — by August 2008. That would take the troop total back down to roughly 132,000.
It is not clear how much lower the total might go by the time Bush leaves office in January 2009. For some military officials, the hope is below 100,000 by then.
Toonscribe, from below:
Go into advanced properties for the sound, "Play Control" and see if you have an option for "digital output only".
Clinton was forced to chose early in his administration between the Lani Gunier/Peter Edelman Democrats and the vampire moron Democrats. Unfortunately he made the wrong choice. One of the key events in American politics was that scumball Les Aspin caving to the rethugs and putting Rush on Armed Forces Radio 3 hours a day.
One of the key events in American politics was that scumball Les Aspin caving to the rethugs and putting Rush on Armed Forces Radio 3 hours a day.
when oh when will liberals learn that you cannot appease the foaming-at-the-mouth right? How often do they have to see this played out before they get it?
OT: A long-standing mystery over the way men's skulls changed from long to round in medieval Europe has been deepened by discoveries at a Yorkshire village.
Huge volumes of data collected at Wharram Percy cast doubt on all current theories about the unexplained blip between the 11th and 13th centuries which has been recorded by archaeologists across the continent.
Immigration and climate change have been the two main hypotheses but neither makes sense of the 700 Yorkshire skeletons. They are expected to cause widespread revision of the period's history, as the first large-scale find from a single, accurately-dated indigenous community.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/scienc...e/2007/aug/25/
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The problem is that there are no negative consequences for the stab in the back to the liberal voting majority. Les Aspin, Bob Kerrey, Pat Moynihan, all the rest of those double crossing weasels got permanent tickets to the front of the trough.
O.T., but of some interest to a small subset of Atriots.
Just finished watching the second series premier of The IT Crowd.
No worries, folks, it's just as brilliant as the first series.
He's just re-iterating his views in a new venue, and though he says this "would be a sad time to conclude we have been defeated," he also concedes that "our strategy for Iraq probably cannot work absent major national political cooperation across sectarian lines."
The US military was successful in defeating the Iraqi army. There's nothing "to win" and nothing "to lose". The problem is the last quote from O'Hanlen.
No way there's going to be national political cooperation among the Shia, the Sunni, and the Kurds.
It's ass out on that.
Huge volumes of data collected at Wharram Percy cast doubt on all current theories about the unexplained blip between the 11th and 13th centuries which has been recorded by archaeologists across the continent.
obviously, this completely discredits the 'theory' of evolution and therefore proves creationism... er, intelligent design!
Generalissimo Fidel Castro is still alive.
Ay caramba.
It never ends....
for NTodd courtesy of wikip:
Rose was a goat who was legally married to a Sudanese man.
There's hope for you! Maybe Atrios will live blog your wedding or even give away the bride.
No way there's going to be national political cooperation among the Shia, the Sunni, and the Kurds.
have we tried having them join hands and sing 'Kumbaya' yet?
like O'Hanlon and his ilk are fond of saying, it's a slim chance and not likely to succeed, but it's worth a shot.
oh, yglesias is writing about my current pet issue so he gets links. When my pet issue changes to, say, molesting goats, then ntodd will get links.
So, my little buddy has goats behind the Tastee Freeze these days?
Diane - I read and enjoyed the Rosa Brooks piece. She is good, but nobody is Molly, bless her brilliant, snarky heart.
Off to make lunch for a certain gentleman of my acquaintance, and then to nap.
Have a good 'ern, all!
The scale of the human disaster in the Iraq war has become clearer from statistics collected by two humanitarian groups that reveal the number of Iraqis who have fled the fighting has more than doubled since the US military build-up began in February.
The Iraqi Red Crescent Organisation said the total number of internally displaced has jumped from 499,000 to 1.1 million since extra US forces arrived with the aim of making the country more secure. The UN-run International Organisation for Migration says the numbers fleeing fighting in Baghdad grew by a factor of 20 in the same period.
These damning statistics reveal that despite much- trumpeted security improvements in certain areas, the level of murderous violence has not declined. The studies reveal that the number of Iraqis fleeing their homes not intending to return is far higher than before the US surge.
The flight is especially marked in religiously mixed areas of central Iraq, with Shia refugees heading south and Sunnis towards the west and north of the country.
http://uruknet.info/?p=m35666&s1=h1
So, my little buddy has goats behind the Tastee Freeze these days?
NTodd doesn't kiss and tell.
O'Hanlon - you've been defeated.
It's sad, but true.
On second thought, maybe Santorum should give away the bride.
One of the key events in American politics was that scumball Les Aspin caving to the rethugs and putting Rush on Armed Forces Radio 3 hours a day.
When will liberal learn that we need to systemically remove the right's grip on power. This is what the right does - develop a scorecard & pursue progressives for decades. Their targets include unions, teachers, public radio & TV, the legal system etc.
Beautiful ideals were painted for our boys who were sent out to die. This was the "war to end all wars." This was the "war to make the world safe for democracy." No one mentioned to them, as they marched away, that their going and their dying would mean huge war profits. No one told these American soldiers that they might be shot down by bullets made by their own brothers here. No one told them that the ships on which they were going to cross might be torpedoed by submarines built with United States patents. They were just told it was to be a "glorious adventure.",/i>
Major General Smedley Butler - War Is A Racket 1935
U.S. Weapons from Iraq Making Their Way to Turkey
Turkish police displayed evidence this week of what they say is the growing black-market trade of weapons of U.S. origin being smuggled across the border from neighboring Iraq.
In the border town of Mardin in southeastern Turkey, officers unwrapped 18 Austrian-made Glock pistols and laid them on a table. Mardin Police Chief Ismet Tasan said the guns were originally donated by the U.S. military to the Iraqi police. The pistols were later sold to arms dealers in northern Iraq for more than $1,500 apiece and then smuggled to Turkey, where they can be resold for prices as high as $5,000.
have we tried having them join hands and sing 'Kumbaya' yet?
That's more than anything O'Hanlen's suggested, let's try it.
like O'Hanlon and his ilk are fond of saying, it's a slim chance and not likely to succeed, but it's worth a shot.
r€nato, love peace and grease | 08.25.07 - 1:35 pm | #
I think a crack frontline shock-troop brigade of young republicans, lead by AEI and Brookings scholars is the only hope to bring this war to victory. It is a slim hope, but worth a chance. As they walk the streets of Iraq, without armor, carrying only a sign that says "suck on this" and wearing unique brightly colored targets on their lightweight golf shirts, their bravery and elan will break the spirit of the qaedians! By gumbo. It's worth a, er, shot.
Sorry if this is old news, but:
The MIT historian that Bush quoted in the speech about how post WWII Japan shows the way Iraq is gonna turn out is really, really pissed that Bush deliberately misrepresented his work to say exactly the opposite of what he meant.
Two explosions in the southern Indian city of Hyderabad have reportly killed at least 34 people, according to officials.
The two explosions on Saturday came within minutes of each other, the police said. A later report suggested there had been three explosions.
R V Chandravadan, a city officials, told the NDTV television channel: "I will be able to confirm that around 34 have been reported dead."
Y S Rajasekhara Reddy, the chief minister for Andhra Pradesh state, where Hyderabad is located, told reporters, "this is a terrorist act" and urged people to remain calm.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...3CA365B4FC7.htm
No one mentioned to them, as they marched away, that their going and their dying would mean huge war profits.
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.
NTodd doesn't kiss and tell.
He does for an extra fiddy cent.
The MIT historian that Bush quoted in the speech about how post WWII Japan shows the way Iraq is gonna turn out is really, really pissed that Bush deliberately misrepresented his work to say exactly the opposite of what he meant.
The article Steve mentions is at the link. The perfessor:
“They [war supporters] keep on doing this,” said MIT professor John Dower. “They keep on hitting it and hitting it and hitting it and it’s always more and more implausible, strange and in a fantasy world. They’re desperately groping for a historical analogy, and their uses of history are really perverse.”
http://www.politico.com/news/sto.../0807/
5499.html
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rootless 2: I second the e-motion. It would change the course of human history. The Islamofascists would lay down their weapons in shock and awe. Oh, wait a minute, we tried that once before.
Those who spend hours discussing bouquet, colour and the best years for Bordeaux should brace themselves. Their revered tipple is about to be supped from a straw.
And as if that were not enough, the drink will be sold in tiny cardboard boxes more often associated with fruit drinks. The move follows the success of alcopops, but to purists it will prove more of a shock to the system than the screwtop.
The brainchild of a Bordeaux wine merchant, the Tandem range of Tetrapak wine contains enough for two glasses. The makers insist the flavour is not compromised, courtesy of a straw that sprays wine into the mouth of the drinker through five holes.
It comes in red and white; a merlot cabernet-sauvignon and a sauvignon, and is designed to sit alongside sandwiches in supermarkets for drinking "on the go".
http://news.independent.co.uk/
uk...icle2893887.ece
someone tell Althouse!
OK, Blade of Darkness it is.
They will know me by the trail of the dead, blood-splatters, and looted storerooms.
Here's a nice LOLberg for the kids to enjoy. It's even work-safe for a change, even though it's Saturday.
When will liberal learn that we need to systemically remove the right's grip on power. This is what the right does - develop a scorecard & pursue progressives for decades. Their targets include unions, teachers, public radio & TV, the legal system etc.
Carter | 08.25.07 - 1:37 pm | #
Too true, but unlikely to happen in our lifetime. Don't forget, these are the same liberals who after witnessing the Republicans steal the 2000 election in plain fucking sight decided that the proper response should be "Maybe we can work with these guys in good faith."
Too true, but unlikely to happen in our lifetime. Don't forget, these are the same liberals who after witnessing the Republicans steal the 2000 election in plain fucking sight decided that the proper response should be "Maybe we can work with these guys in good faith."
The system will likely have to fall of its own weight of corruption and ineptitude for change to occur. Voting seems to be obsolete.
robbin owls!!!!!!!!!!
steve simels | Homepage | 08.25.07 - 1:44 pm | #
Bob Somersby's line about the Democrats being the Washington Generals to the Rethugs Globetrotters is painful.
"my critics have perm envy"-Michael O'Hanlon as he takes his Paul Mitchell bottle off the shelf
"The system will likely have to fall of its own weight of corruption and ineptitude for change to occur."
not unlike the Soviet Union...
Unfortunately, much of the blogosphere and other media outlets have emphasized the wrong question, challenging the integrity of anyone who dares to express politically incorrect views about Iraq.
Daring?!?!?! Oh, so he boldly strode out and underwrote what court scribes have been repeating to great rewards for the last half decade.
I hate this refrain from the dunderheads, whether it's some truth-challenged slop-ed writer, some incompetent ombudsman or simply a writer not doing his or her job.
The blogosphere didn't challenge "anyone who dares to express politically incorrect views about Iraq" but Michael Fucking O'Hanlon.
Why do they persist in this idiocy that they are being hectored by a mob for "daring" to spout unpopular views when they're simply being challenged on the basis of what they've written or spouted?
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I think a crack frontline shock-troop brigade of young republicans, lead by AEI and Brookings scholars...
The M.A. Team.
Col. John "Adam" Smith, played by Ken Pollack.
Ph.D Barakus, played by Mr. (Ten Year) T (Note)
Michael "Facetime" O'Hanlon, and
Rupert "Howling Mad" Murdoch. playing themselves.
Hey, read this book by John Dower: "War Without Mercy: Race and Power in the Pacific War."
Inevitably....
I hate that word. Thanks for using it.
I've been waiting six years for that next "inevitable" terrorist attack. Not that I'm looking forward to it.
Inevitability is an eternity.
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