I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
frist?
First!
now for teh sheetz.
Dang it, Steeler Fan! Should have known it would happen (Cowboys fan here 
)
The iPhone is also good for hanging out in front of Pep Boys when your car dies.
Good evening atriots.
This probably wouldn't be a good time for me to pull out my provincial health card, eh?
For those who were not there back then, the Apollo 11 crew went into quarantine for a period of time after they returned from the moon. Then the had the mother of all ticker tape parades in NYC.
People were actually cheering Nixon too.
Time to dismantle the medico-industrial complex.
Latest Rasmussen Poll. Majority of Americans DO NOT WANT Sotomayor confirmed . 46 to 42. Call and write your Senator to vote "NO" on Sotomayor.
Unless you have a kick-ass union that negotiates hard for quality options for its members. I'm lucky enough to have that but realize that I am in an extreme minority and the entire system needs to change.
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Majority of Americans DO NOT WANT Sotomayor confirmed . 46 to 42.
There's that wingnut math again.
rasmussen poll = brain dead
So pepsi killed Michael Jackson? Usually it's coke that brings them down.
Yeah, exactly.
We had this conversation at work today.
Although we didn't use the word "fucked."
Man, MJ's head went up like a marshmallow.
fokowi,
We came *this* close, ya hoser.
Overlooked--or at least underplayed--in the first wave of commentary about the House of Representatives' health care proposal is its real long-term cost, as estimated by the CBO on July 14. Although the total price-tag for the 2010-2019 decade is "only" $1.042 trillion, the major features of the proposal don't kick in until the fourth year. In effect, we get only seven years of the program within the ten-year window, for an average net cost per year of about $150 billion.
On closer inspection, the fiscal impact appears even larger. The CBO projection implies that full implementation would not occur until 2015. The average net cost per year of the five full implementation years (2015-2019) is $172 billion. And finally, costs rise swiftly within that five year period, from $141 billion in 2015 to $202 billion in 2019--roughly 9 percent per year, compounded.
The Massachusetts-style reform template that is shaping proposals in both the House and Senate has the virtue of making the costs of near-universal coverage more transparent than did the Clinton-era approach. In the coming months, Congress, the White House, and the American people will have to decide whether they can live with legislation that focuses so heavily on coverage while giving such short shrift to meaningful cost control.
Sadly, the discussion doesn't actually involve much about civilized societies providing healthcare...
Vicki...I think the proper word to describe our health care system is in fact...fucked.
I watched the video of the Apollo 11 Saturn V launch today. Still impressive as hell, 40 years on.
Sadly, the discussion doesn't actually involve much about civilized societies providing healthcare...
NTodd
Hey, I mentioned my provincial health card.
O'Reilly just discussed the Rasmussen poll with Megyn Kelley. Both think there is still a chance to reject her if Republicans grow a backbone. Would love to see this puerto rican militant rejected by the US Senate. Shell be Ginzberg 2
Latest Rasmussen Poll. Majority of Americans DO NOT WANT Sotomayor confirmed . 46 to 42. Call and write your Senator to vote "NO" on Sotomayor.
Why would I write when I do want her confirmed?
I'm one of the lucky ones with a union that negotiates for me.
My health insurance is $1000 out of pocket per year, so that's my cost. And I can Cafeteria Plan that cost.
My family coverage (BC/BS) costs me about $2000/year, and the college pays around $8000/year for it.
We really need a system that's not for profit - it's the only way I think.
I hope we see a lot of Apollo 11 stuff in the next few days.
That was a cool time.
The Steelers went 1-13 that year.
The truth is also that we can afford what we want. We've been able to afford wars. We've been able to afford huge tax cuts for the rich. We've been able to afford trips for white men to the Moon and we've been able to afford bridges to nowhere.
We could afford health care for mothers and babies and wounded vets and for grandmothers if we wanted those things as much as we want war and investigations into steroid use in baseball.
Latest Rasmussen Poll. Majority of Americans DO NOT WANT Sotomayor confirmed . 46 to 42. Call and write your Senator to vote "NO" on Sotomayor.
I'll get right on that Sparky
Of course not Ntodd...because that would involve discussing the merits of..gasp..socialist policies.
i think chidy musta slipped me a roofie that night. i didn't even know you were there. 
My big cat.
Hey, I mentioned my provincial health card.
And I mentioned VT's enlightenment here, and with my Congressman yesterday.
Without it, we'd have been truly fucked this week.
Back from California -- very tired -- The Episcopal Church did some good things -- then they had to figure out how to pay for stuff since the budget & the cash don't match up!
BTW -- while there I argued with a self employed guy about our health coverage -- he is opposed to government & in favor of freedom -- I suggested he move to Somalia ...
The trolls really don't want access to health care, do they? Funny, most people do want access to health care.
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Yore Fukt!!
But at leas5t it aint SOAcialism!! You islamofaacsist BADSTARD!!!
I wonder if the astronauts peed in diapers on the mission.
We could afford health care for mothers and babies and wounded vets and for grandmothers if we wanted those things as much as we want war and investigations into steroid use in baseball.
You have my vote if you ever run for the Senate.
The Steelers went 1-13 that year.
Steeler Fan
Bummer 
Entirely obvious. Thanks.
Amen, Hecate. Absolutely right.
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Other Assmussen news:
44% Oppose Sotomayor’s Confirmation, but Support Grows After First Day of Hearings
and
Following Two Days of Hearings, 90% Expect Sotomayor to Be Confirmed
Prior!
I was thinking about you today in that nest of vipers!
Are u home?
I've often said that statistics be damned, it's apparent as hell that Canada is wealthier than the US, precisely because that bottom run of society-- poor women who can't gain access for health care for their children, elderly people afraid that health care issues will cause them to lose their house, etc-- simply doesn't exist here.
The US govt already already spends more per capita than any other developed country on health care & gets less bang for it's buck -- this isn't rocket science (which reminds me of a New Yorker cartoon ...)
Call and write your Senator to vote "NO" on Sotomayor.
No.
We could afford health care for mothers and babies and wounded vets and for grandmothers if we wanted those things as much as we want war and investigations into steroid use in baseball.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I love you.
Who should go on the next moon mission?
O'Reilly just
Could he be heard over his small, penis-shaped vibrator?
The trolls really don't want access to health care, do they? Funny, most people do want access to health care.
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Tralfaz
The trolls could use it.
They need psychiatric help badly.
Who should go on the next moon mission?
His or her name will likely be Lee.
Who should go on the next moon mission?
Al Bean, Jack Schmitt and me.
me, for all the right reasons.
Or Wong.
Al Bean, Jack Schmitt and me.
NTodd, Wise Latina
To model the pantsless spacesuit.
The guy who just towed my car lost his old job, his insurance, and 80% of the use of his right hand after a forklift accident.
Anecdotal, yes, but "fucked" remains the operative.
The trolls could use it.
They need psychiatric help badly.
Terry C
Yep. And all those cheetos go straight into their arterial walls.
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Why do the thread lice believe that we should be impressed by anything we hear from O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush, Beck.....any of those hatemongers?
I couldn't care less what those people have to say.
Is white, male Protestant with health insurance the "new normal"?
They simply don't have any other sources.
As the Senate Judiciary Committee today begins confirmation hearings on President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominee, Sonia Sotomayor, a slight majority of the American people support her confirmation, according to the latest Gallup poll.
Since her nomination was announced in May, her public support has remained steady, with 53% supporting her nomination compared to 33% who oppose it. In May, 54% supported and 28% opposed.
Her numbers are in line with recent court nominees including Samuel Alito and John Roberts, who both enjoyed pre-hearing ratings of about 50%.
“There is not much evidence to suggest that Senate hearings change public support for Supreme Court nominees to a large degree,” Gallup notes.
[stealing "thread lice"]
We could afford health care for mothers and babies and wounded vets and for grandmothers if we wanted those things as much as we want war and investigations into steroid use in baseball.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Or tax cuts for the greedy rich.
What's the rationale for going to the moon in mid july?
Our college has let a lot of our full time support help go and hired them through a staffing service. That way they don't have to pay insurance or other benefits for them.
So we have all these people working full time at the college with no benefits. I've lost so much respect for the college because of that. And don't even get me started on adjuncts - about 75% of our classes are taught by adjuncts who have no benefits either.
I wonder if the college would keep these people full time if they had other options for health coverage...
What's the rationale for going to the moon in mid july?
bread
Apollo 8 was Christmas 1968.
Then two more missions until Apollo 11.
It was the earliest they could do it.
What's the rationale for going to the moon in mid july?
bread |
Rationale he wants?
There was also a launch window when it was optimum to approach the moon.
Saturn V Schlomo?
Apollo 8 and 10 also went to the moon but did not land.
Why do the thread lice believe that we should be impressed by anything we hear from O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush, Beck.....any of those hatemongers?
I couldn't care less what those people have to say.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch*
They're just peeing in the punchbowl. They could care less what your reaction is, just as long as you have one...
rasmussen poll = brain dead
fokowi lounge, the
Has as much credibility as a Faux Noise Poll.
Home to find over 400 items in my Inbox!
Apollo 9 first tested the LEM in earth orbit.
Why do the thread lice believe that we should be impressed by anything we hear from O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush, Beck.....any of those hatemongers?
But if they don't mention O'Reilly, I don't get to post the link to O'Reilly's paeans to masturbation, vibrators, and falafels!
Fly me to the moon.
And fokowi, are you ignoring me? It's okay if you are.
(Goes back to mole hole.)
They could care less what your reaction is, just as long as you have one...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
I know. It just makes me laugh how they quote O'Wanker like some people quote the bible or Shakespeare.
Barbarian Heretic
Fuck off, troll.
Or tax cuts for the greedy rich.
Terry C is possessed with class envy.
(Waves to Vicki)
Pat Buchanan is such a neandrathal.
What's the rationale for going to the moon in mid july?
Black fly season has ended.
Both of my parents have gotten a lot of medical care on Medicare (with a relatively affordable BC/BS supplement plan), and came out financially unscathed. My mother actually died after an awfully expensive set of treatments for cancer, and this was all covered. Medicare might not work as well for others, but from what I've seen (and I've seen it pretty much up close), Medicare is a plan that almost all Americans would be happy to have. I don't think the AMA would be happy with it, but it is proof that public funded health care is do-able, and can be done in a way that is also politically viable.
As some have noted above, what it really takes is the will to do it.
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Another one who needs psychiatric help.
sallyh
They did the moon landing in mid afternoon right after America was done with church.
They did the walk around 9 after everyone had a good dinner.
Pat is lighting his cross.
Pukester is a troglodyte.
Hi Vicki. Any word on the bike situation?
Nixon talked to Armstrong and Aldrin by phone while they were walking on the moon.
Pat is lighting his cross.
Karatist Preacher
I'd be glad to help him.
Our college has let a lot of our full time support help go and hired them through a staffing service. That way they don't have to pay insurance or other benefits for them.
So we have all these people working full time at the college with no benefits. I've lost so much respect for the college because of that. And don't even get me started on adjuncts - about 75% of our classes are taught by adjuncts who have no benefits either.
My dyslexic nephew got a good job, well, it was dangerous, but it was steady work with decent pay, w Chicago's mass transit. Before they let a bunch of folks, including Nephew go, they cut their hours for a month or so, so that, when they were let go, they weren't eligible for unemployment. So my niece, who is waiting tables while she can't get a job in her field, is supporting both of them.
Thank the Goddess we're not taxing the rich.
Terry, I have to say that killfile's been getting quite the work out today.
That call was bugged.
Hey, I've found one small way to give Arthur a safe cave when the thunderstorms roll around. He has his own blankie - and if I drape it over his head and across his eyes, he settles down almost instantly. He's still scared, but blankie is certainly a big help.
Fine Pat, you want a race/sex war, you're gonna get it. Keep talking, Pat, let's hear your racist shit right here on TV instead of at the country club.
Hecate --
The General Convention of The Episcopal Church is not what you might think -- the third largest convention in the nation (after the Democratic & Republican national conventions) & the largest legislative assembly in the world
& they made it clear that they know that the gays are not going to back in the closet, the women are not going to go back into the kitchen & the persons of color are not going to move to the back of the bus!
Pukecannon: White men deserve a disproportionately large representation because they've always constituted the group that has had power.
Nice neat circle there, bubba.
Clarence Thomas was Ok though.
Uncle Pat committing political suicide for stupidity and bigotry on Rachel Maddow.
I know. It just makes me laugh how they quote O'Wanker like some people quote the bible or Shakespeare.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch*
To paraquote Nick Lowe, I don't think they're funny no more...
they cut their hours for a month or so, so that, when they were let go, they weren't eligible for unemployment.
That should be a fucking crime. If any regular person avoided responsibility like that - basically stealing money from those who have earned it - they'd be prosecuted.
The system is just so set up to fuck the common person. I want that change we've been promised!
Bill O'Reilly doesn't need insurance.
He'll never get AIDS.
He's the only guy in history to pay a woman $10 million bucks and not even get a handjob.
& the largest legislative assembly in the world
& they made it clear that they know that the gays are not going to back in the closet, the women are not going to go back into the kitchen & the persons of color are not going to move to the back of the bus!
Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Was just reading a news report about someone attending who was warned by another attendee about the "pagan" nature of the proceedings.
Hi Vicki. Any word on the bike situation?
Integral ♠ Lit
Nada. I am strongly encouraging her to buy a cheap bike from Craig's List. But that's what I said before, and did she listen? Nooohh.
However, she did renew her driving permit today, and she and a friend are taking my car later tonight to practice backing in and parallel parking.
Kid needs to drive.
Thanks for asking.
i have a thing that supposedly was on board the apollo 14 lunar module. 15 too, also. but who's counting?
vicki, i tried to 'splain a bit upthread. not ignoring you at all.
Pukecannon is a summa cum loudest graduate.
Pat is gonna bust his bypass.
Buchanan, 'If I look at the US track team and they're all black guys, I don't assume discrimination.'
Speaking to the NAACP, President Obama delivered a fiery sermon to black America, warning parents and children that they must accept their own responsibilities.
I don't think Obama appreciates just how racist our society is. This is a slap in the face of African-Americans, IMHO.
Holy shit, black people are fast according to Pat.
Alan Shepard played golf on teh moon.
& TEC is no longer the Republican Party at prayer -- I told the husband of the Presiding Bishop (yes, you read that correctly) that the reason why the conservatives, who dominated everything 50 years ago have become such a shrunken remnant is that they are assholes (exact quotation) -- they treat anyone who doesn't agree with them (or who is not exactly like them) like garbage & alienate the moderates who otherwise might go along with them through sheer inertia (like we could never have elected Obama without George Bush)
they made it clear that they know that the gays are not going to back in the closet, the women are not going to go back into the kitchen & the persons of color are not going to move to the back of the bus!
Prior Aelred
Prior, I was raised Episcopalian and this makes me happy. I don't partake anymore, but you know, the old loyalties nudge about when I hear news like this.
Pukecannon: White men deserve a disproportionately large representation because they've always constituted the group that has had power.
I say let ol' Pat host a nice long primetime news/opinion show. Let America hear exactly what he and the rest of the wrong wing are really all about. Fuck censorship, I don't want him fired or banned. Let him speak, and he'll talk the Republicans into oblivion...
What if they are on the swim team?
Hey, I've found one small way to give Arthur a safe cave when the thunderstorms roll around.
Makes sense to me. It's the same basic idea as a crate (a safe "den"), and much more portable!
TO almost drowned in the pool last week.
O'Reilly referenced an interesting piece on Judge Sotomayor in the Paris Business Review.
Heeeee.
C'mon, Rachel. Make that fucking dinosaur have a heart attack live on my teevee.
going to the moon needs no fucking rationale.
He's the only guy in history to pay a woman $10 million bucks and not even get a handjob.
Well, not from her, at any rate.
Would you pay that much for the chance to rub a few out?
fokowi,
It's okay.
I drank too much Feral Liberal cranberry juice anyway, and smoked too much barndog blueberry. I spilled gumbo on my skirt and wine on my blouse.
It's all good. And it's all of my own doing.
I had a great time, and I do remember Kathy Mattea singing.
Bliss rocks.
Can I lunge thru the screen and beat Robertson about the head and shoulders naow?
Rachel is about to take Pat Pukecannon's head off.
Don't know why she lets him on her show anyway.
What if they are on the swim team?
Steeler Fan
He did say that white guys from Minnesota are better hockey players.
Maybe O'Reilly will win a Peabody award for his investigative work on the SCOTUS candidate.
Heee.
Heee.
Heee.
Well, we also had Fred Phelpsian types protesting outside -- although I only saw one guy with a sign ...
fokowi, how goes the process out there?
GWPDA - YES, PLEASE DO.
disgusting vile old racist coot.
Don't know why she lets him on her show anyway.
TEBB, hoping Soto won't disapp
Five minutes of hate.
Alan Shepard played golf on teh moon.
Steeler Fan
His tee shot should hit the fairway on Mars in another 10,000 years or so...
Pukecannon: Maybe I'm dating myself.
No one else would.
Alan Shepard played golf on teh moon.
Not really, despite Walt Cunningham's predictions. He muffed a sand trap a couple times, then whacked the ball. That's not golf. That's spending a million bucks a minute to visit the driving range.
I think that's the first time I ever saw Rachel pissed off.
Makes sense to me. It's the same basic idea as a crate (a safe "den"), and much more portable!
Exactly. I can't think why we didn't try this before. Of course, I have to be the cave structure but that's okay. And blankie is the most important thing.
Uncle Pat Disgusting Old Coot?
Don't know why she lets him on her show anyway.
TEBB, hoping Soto won't disapp
Five minutes of hate.
Steeler Fan
Pretty astute comment, there, Steeler Dude.
Well, we also had Fred Phelpsian types protesting outside -- although I only saw one guy with a sign ...
So, you avoided the shrimp cocktail?
process is snafu fucking free. thx for asking.
Hey Prior A!
That's spending a million bucks a minute to visit the driving range.
I've dated guys who think that's normal.
I get to tour the sewage plant in the morning.
Not really, despite Walt Cunningham's predictions. He muffed a sand trap a couple times, then whacked the ball. That's not golf. That's spending a million bucks a minute to visit the driving range.
NTodd, Wise Latina
It was hard to tell on the BW set I had back then.
feral is cool.
Bill O'Reilly doesn't need insurance.
He'll never get AIDS.
I dunno. If there anyone on the planet who could give himself AIDS, he's it...
That's fabulous. 8/8/09 still looking good?
Moe Szyslak: I get to tour the sewage plant in the morning.
You lucky fucker.
Auntie, you should be able to do whatever you like. You've earned it.
Pat Buchanan is MSNBC's token fuckwad.
I get to tour the sewage plant in the morning.
Moe Szyslak
If you see O'Reilly, tell him to go fuck himself.
"Five minutes of hate.
Steeler Fan"
Followed by: "See what we're up against?"
the whole fucking moon is a sand trap.
Feral is beyond cool.
I think that's the first time I ever saw Rachel pissed off.
Jeffraham, public option
Didn't she have a fight with Pukecannon on Election Night?
We're doing moon golfing?
Don't know why she lets him on her show anyway.
TEBB, hoping Soto won't disapp
Five minutes of hate.
Like that commercial where they squeeze that gunk out of some poor sap's artery. "This is what it looks like if you hate."
But those commercials make me sick. So I'm watching Natalie Dessay.
I was glued to the set through every moon mission.
It was all three networks covering it 24/7 and a couple radio networks too.
08 08 09 looks good but it would've been better had it been 08 08 08 but i don't do 2nd guessing very well. if at all.
So, you avoided the shrimp cocktail?
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I don't do bugs ...
The Family is a "Christian fellowship house."
Uh huh.
The Pittsburgh Press has a headline six inches high that said MAN ON MOON
"The reality is if you get real sick, no matter if you're insured or not, you're probably financially fucked."
And there's winners, and there's losers But they ain't no big deal
'cause the simple man baby pays for the thrills, the bills and the pills that kill
oh well ain't that america...
My dad still has the newspaper for July 21, 1969.
Like that commercial where they squeeze that gunk out of some poor sap's artery. "This is what it looks like if you hate."
I miss the damndest things, not having tv
Prior A.
Today I contacted the Archdiocese of the RC church in New York. Sean Hannity's Archdiocese. I've asked to interview, on the record for broadcast the Catholic Church's official view on torture.
How it is defined. What is included.
What is the moral principles they use to condemn it.
What is their ticking time bomb answer.
I've also contacted an Jesuit in Canada (cause I just love Canadians and he's an expert)
Is there an person in your church I can interview on the topic and get audio of the official views?
You could wait and go 09 09 09 - but who cares about symmetry? Serendipity is more important and most things that are serendipitous aren't symmetrical.
I just made that shit up but it sounds good, doesn't it?
There was a small blurb about Ted Kennedy being in some sort of accident.
i'd blame simels but i don't do blame either. i'm weird that way, tho. also.
Why are the AIDS rates among blacks and gays higher than for whites?
I miss the damndest things, not having tv
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Count your blessings!
Why are the AIDS rates among blacks and gays higher than for whites?
Orett
And lower for lesbians?
09 09 09 is probably where it is...
"Don't know why she lets him on her show anyway."
she got the ratings she wanted.
Last photo is where I was 40 years ago, today.
Pat Buchanan will be rotting in his grave while Judge Sotomayor establishes her reputation as one of the most influential women in American history.
I still have a copy of the Star Tribune from October 28th, 1991.
My dad still has the newspaper for July 21, 1969.
He's has several degrees as an engineer. I find it so interesting, the combination of blind faith in Catholicism and his advanced degrees in a study that is oriented in science and physics.
I loved your dad, no criticism of him, btw.
spocko!
We could have used your witness at the Convention!
i hope one of these estranged or ex-wives sues that christianist "The Family" group of hypocrites and then seizes their damn "house" on C street to satisfy the judgment.
Or, alternatively, goes into a rage and burns the fcker down.
Why are the AIDS rates among blacks and gays higher than for whites?
There are no white gay people. Who knew?
I still have a copy of the Star Tribune from October 28th, 1991.
AndyG
Twins won the World Series.
I miss the damndest things, not having tv
Wait'll you see the one where they shove the camera down some poor woman's throat so's you can see what real live lung tumors look like. Oh wait. You can't.
Why are the AIDS rates among blacks and gays higher than for whites?
Orett
In the study conducted by the Kansas City Star at the beginning of this decade, it was determined that Catholic priests were contracting the HIV virus at 4 times the national average.
See in church on Sunday!
There was a small blurb about Ted Kennedy being in some sort of accident.
Weird how it's become such a big deal and the moon landing thing was not much of an historical event with the wingers.
then seizes their damn "house" on C street to satisfy the judgment.
Are there no good divorce lawyers in DC?
I told the husband of the Presiding Bishop (yes, you read that correctly) that the reason why the conservatives, who dominated everything 50 years ago have become such a shrunken remnant is that they are assholes (exact quotation) -- they treat anyone who doesn't agree with them (or who is not exactly like them) like garbage & alienate the moderates who otherwise might go along with them through sheer inertia
I love you.
I love you.
Spocko
Me too, and you, too. Also.
So fokowi, are you starting to feel like an old fucker yet?
wow, a whorehouse filled with churchie wingnuts.
awesome.
Twins won the World Series.
A-yup.
I worked with a guy who used to live with the Family.
The moon landing would have to be the biggest event of the past 50 years if not the biggest event ever.
wow, a whorehouse filled with churchie wingnuts.
I'm stunned that Kyl isn't bunking with the boys.
"The C Streeters subscribe to a view of male headship."
I was 11 at the time.
I was in Moscow USSR when Apollo 11 took off for the Moon.
"Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC..."
Actually iirc it was SAS from JFK and Aeroflot!
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"I'm stunned that Kyl isn't bunking with the boys."
that has yet to be disproven.
I just want to say, too, that despite the long, tired day and the shit that has gone on recently, we had a good day.
Audrey is very proactive about the bike (it's awesome, endearing, and funny), and I believe our boss is going to bat for us wrt the merger.
We may not have jobs, but we'll go out with a bang. At a minimum.
Twins won the World Series.
A-yup.
Only because Hrbek pushed Gant off the bag and got away with it.
Wingnuts and the moon:
Why spend money on science when you can better spend it killing dark skinned people for their oil.
I worked with a guy who used to live with the Family.
Moe Szyslak
pretty disturbing, esp that there are D's and women involved with it
Why are the AIDS rates among blacks and gays higher than for whites?
I don't have a fast answer to a complex phenomenon, but let's just say access to healthcare isn't very common in communities of color.
I was 11 at the time.
Steeler Fan
I was still 10. Didn't turn 11 till November.
Remember it clearly. We ordered in pizza, something we almost never did.
We took pictures of the TV screen.
Spocko -- I'm sure that there is an official resolution from some Convention condemning torture, but I wouldn't know where to find it -- I know some people who might be able to help, but they are all still in Anaheim & doubtless suffering from terminal exhaustion ... I will try the official church website, but it is terrible & the search engine is worse!
Weird how it's become such a big deal and the moon landing thing was not much of an historical event with the wingers.
NTodd, Wise Latina
That's what separates guys like Niven and Pournelle from the rank and file wingnuts. They might be throwbacks in a way, but they're progressive throwbacks. Or something...
Only because Hrbek pushed Gant off the bag and got away with it.
This is true.
The guy I worked with came from a wealthy family (so, trust fund kid) and was a wingnut. He lived with them for about six months, then left-- even he thought they were crazy.
The moon landing would have to be the biggest event of the past 50 years if not the biggest event ever.
I disagree, but this comment is clearly subjective.
I feel that the Iraq war is the biggest event since WWII, because not only is it illegal, immoral, and pre-emptive, but it has paved the way for all sorts of lies. It's like that war made excuses justifiable.
"Why are the AIDS rates among blacks and gays higher than for whites?"
why is the racism rate higher amongst wingnuts than normal people?
Prior Aelred
I've actually preformed at an Episcopalian Convention in LA. It was during the days when I did storytelling, improv and clowning. I trained a group of kids in some basic clown skills, make up and improv and we entertained the delegates.
I talked to Ned Beaty and he complimented my clown make up!
Vicki, aren't kids great? They sure can put things in perspective.
And I'm glad your boss is going to bat for you all. This might be the best thing that ever happened to you, you never know!
I was 11 at the time.
I was -3 weeks.
A Big Setback for Health Reform today. I am afraid to say it but I think the CBO projection today drove a stake thru the heart of Obamacare today. Oh well, maybe in another 15 years another President can try again.
As it was described back then: "Man left his environment for the first time and entered another environment"
Int Lit,
Not sure it will matter. The hospital is 15,000+ employees, we are only 1,350.
But it could be okay.
Or not.
Just wish we knew.
Spocko, clowns are very frightening to me.
Apollo 12 was fucked up. They pointed the camera at the sun.
I was -3 weeks.
NTodd, Wise Latina
Baby!
Oh hell, I should just move to Claresholm and say the hell with all of it.
Clowns remind me of the Nixon cabinet.
I find them very unsettling.
you'd think that since the hubble telescope can photograph distant galaxies in exquisite detail, we would have some pix of the 'moon landing sites'.
I was -3 weeks.
NTodd, Wise Latina
Your first name could have been Swoboda.
Gomez (I suppose I shouldn't call you that),
the moon access was a net positive for the USA. The Iraq war, a net negative.
The net negative, imho, has a bigger impact on the country.
I do grok your point, however.
NTodd, how're Ericka and baby? Thought about you guys off and on today.
Uh...I remember the Challenger blowing up. Didn't save the paper from that one.
The biggest thing in the last 50 years was when 15-year-old Nancy Parcell decided to rope her dopey, moronic and clueless classmate into her diabolical plot to lose her virginity.
I'm stunned that Kyl isn't bunking with the boys.
He's probably down the street at the Methodist House
They might be throwbacks in a way, but they're progressive throwbacks. Or something...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
It really hurt me when I found out Niven is such a fucking asshole. His stories were the backbone of my tween fantasy life.
The moon landing would have to be the biggest event of the past 50 years if not the biggest event ever.
Difficult to imagine a larger technological feat, especially in the compacted time limit of one decade.
Too soon?
And lower for lesbians?
Steeler Fan
Because they sterilize their strapons?
Oh Christ, gary!
I mean, y'all can google the hospital in GR and figure it out. But I don't necessarily want you to, nor do I expect you to.
Spocko:
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you'd think that since the hubble telescope can photograph distant galaxies in exquisite detail, we would have some pix of the 'moon landing sites'.
gary in fl
Funny you mention that. Expect by Monday detailed photos of the Apollo 11 site just taken by a spacecraft orbiting the moon.
Your first name could have been Swoboda.
The surname of my Grade 4 teacher. Last met her on a flight to London - she was connecting to one to take her into Moscow. Wonderful lady - cried when she had to tell us that the President had been murdered.
Prior. I'll wait until they return. I want to actually interview someone for the record.
What I really want is some solid sound bites to go up against certain prominent Catholic commentators who are putting the definition of some secular humanist in the OLC above the definition used by their own Church.
Ultimate goal, official condemnation of their willful support of torture.
Various media saying major terra attack in Jakarta.
Uh...I remember the Challenger blowing up. Didn't save the paper from that one.
AndyG
How do you get 10 astronauts in a Volkswagon?
2 in the front. 2 in the back. 6 in the ashtray.
Sorry...
As it was described back then: "Man left his environment for the first time and entered another environment"
Steeler Fan |
My favorite quote surrounding Apollo 11.
Command module pilot, Michael Collins was left alone to orbit the Moon while A and A descended to the surface. While on lunar orbit 60 miles away from the other 2 and 250,000 miles from Earth, Collins was described as the "lonliest man since Adam!".
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Hannity has the firefighters who are opposed to Sotamayor on his show.
Gah.
Spocko, clowns are very frightening to me.
GWPDA Heroine of the Workplace
You need to rent Killer Klowns From Outer Space. Or not.
you'd think that since the hubble telescope can photograph distant galaxies in exquisite detail, we would have some pix of the 'moon landing sites'.
It's inside WTC7, nitwit.
It really hurt me when I found out Niven is such a fucking asshole. His stories were the backbone of my tween fantasy life.
slartibartfast
I hear you. I look at my stack of Niven on the shelf, and I just don't feel like re-reading any of them anymore.
And, I swear, if he writes ONE MORE Ringworld book...
The moon walk is my earliest TV memory. Mom and Dad kept me up hours past my bedtime, insisting that I watch it.
It was all downhill from there, TV-wise.
I think they actually have taken pix of some stuff we put on the moon.
Spocko, clowns are very frightening to me.
GWPDA Heroine of the Workplace
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Q. Why don't cannibals eat clowns?
A. They taste funny!
Command module pilot, Michael Collins was left alone to orbit the Moon while A and A descended to the surface. While on lunar orbit 60 miles away from the other 2 and 250,000 miles from Earth, Collins was described as the "lonliest man since Adam!".
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Agent Orange
There was always the possibility that A and A would not get back.
we watched the moon landing at summer camp when i was 14 but it was boring because there were no car chases or breasts
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you'd think that since the hubble telescope can photograph distant galaxies in exquisite detail, we would have some pix of the 'moon landing sites'.
Look up Dawes' Limit and do the math for the reason why not.
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Auntie and Macacawitz, I find clowns grotesque and terrifying.
One among many reasons I will never stay at Circus Circus in Vegas.
Apollo 11 was ready for prime time.
Launch rocket was ready, command module was ready, lander was ready, crew was ready. Ground support was ready.
It all came together.
You need to rent Killer Klowns From Outer Space. Or not.
slartibartfast
Up there with Buckaroo Banzai in the annals of fine SF films...
Vicki,
I just cannot watch any of those assholes. I throw up a little in my mouth just channel surfing by.
If someone else, like my ex, is doing the surfing and pauses, I yell, "AAAhhhh. Get it off!"
He ignores me - something he got very good at during our marriage!
Clearly I've spent too much time in hotel rooms this summer with him. Have to do it again this weekend - fortunately, I'll get to the room around midnight both nights and be gone by 6:30 each morning . . .
Thanks Prior A.
And, I swear, if he writes ONE MORE Ringworld book...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
I was mostly over him by the time he got on to the Ringworld thing. Most of what I read as a kid was stories from stuff like the best of F&SF anthologies.
There was always the possibility that A and A would not get back.
Steeler Fan |
That was Collins' greatest fear. he'd return safely and they'd be left behind. A lot could have gone wrong...an awful lot.
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I can't keep up, get a word in edgewise, and no one loves me long time, so I'll bid you adieu. Have fun, and enjoy the conversation.
I feel that the Iraq war is the biggest event since WWII...
Nah...just another in a long string of brutal acts at the hands of the last empire.
I rewatched Apollo 13 the movie and part of the documentary recently. I'm always amazed at the way Howard created tension even when you KNOW they lived!
I'm thinking, "They might not make it this time!"
fokowi, are you back in CA? mto3 and wife will be out in a couple of weeks, fly on up!
Apollo 12 was fucked up. They pointed the camera at the sun.
Al Bean's fault.
I meet Jerry Pournelle at a high-tech party in LA. Kind of a jerk.
I'm always amazed at the way Howard created tension even when you KNOW they lived!
It was really amazing.
And on From the Earth to the Moon, too.
Beyoncé Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) the show and video is stuck in my mind. Yikes!
Apollo was pretty in-your-face, but I don't think it was close to our greatest technological achievement in the last 50 years.
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I think they actually have taken pix of some stuff we put on the moon.
They will be soon. There's a probe orbiting now that will photograph Apollo 11's landing site.
Of course, we've been using the mirror array to do laser ranging experiments since then...
Sequencing the genome was pretty damn awesome in my book, but it doesn't make particulary good TV.
"2 in the front. 2 in the back. 6 in the ashtray."
i love sick humor.
And on From the Earth to the Moon, too.
NTodd, Wise Latina
I loved how they all had different directors. I met Al Bean at Space Camp so I paid attention to his episode. I believe he was played by one of the Kids in the Hall guys. Which was cool because he was a very nice funny guy.
He's a painter and a bit of a mystic now. I really enjoyed hearing him speak.
fokowi, that's really something, figuring path he was blazing. I'm going to keep that passage - I get it.
You need to feel good about what you are doing now. It is pretty damn exciting itself.
Happy birthday a couple days early, you old fucker.
I'm thinking, "They might not make it this time!"
Spocko
Hint; never place a bet on the Instant Replay. He's still gonna be safe...
Ha!
We have three sewage plants-- one in Halifax proper, which came on line last year and failed miserably in January, a second across the harbour in Dartmouth (where I leve) which has been turned on but is going through calibration for a (supposed) summer official opening, and a third, a tiny plant down the coast that is supposed to open next year.
The Dartmouth plant is failing to meet fecal coliform standards, they just announced.
Spocko, clowns are very frightening to me.
GWPDA, do you know Mystery Science Theater? If not, try going to YouTube and searching "mst3k here comes the circus". The result will either make clowns so ridiculous you could never be afraid of them again, or confirm your subconscious suspicion that they are more evil that the darkest demons.
rewatched Apollo 13 the movie and part of the documentary recently. I'm always amazed at the way Howard created tension even when you KNOW they lived!
When I saw Apollo 13 at the theater I laughed out loud spontaneously at the scene recreating the firing of the LM descent engine to return them to Earth as seen from outside.
Fantasmogorical BS and not even close to reality.
I was 'shussed' by people in the dark.
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i love sick humor.
jdw
Most of us here do. It must be how we compensate for being such nice people otherwise...
Who should go on the next moon mission?
Steeler Fan
We could narrow the pool of candidates by launching FLG's rocket to the sun first.
The moon walk is my earliest TV memory. Mom and Dad kept me up hours past my bedtime, insisting that I watch it. It was all downhill from there, TV-wise. - Moe Szyslak
well, I really enjoy seeing Yankees Chad Curtis smackdown of NBC wanker Jim Gray's request for interview after hitting the game winning walk-off home run because of Gray's treatment of Pete Rose in an interview the day before
Jim Gray: Tell us about that pitch.
Chad Curtis: I can't do it. As a team, we kind of decided, because of what happened with Pete, we're not going to talk out here on the field.
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Yes. This is how it is.
If you get really sick, you are financially ruined.
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