We yurpeans are a curious mixture.
Bollox Ref |
09.22.07 - 7:02 pm | #
The curious mixture of the dog in the night time.
M31 |
09.22.07 - 7:03 pm | #
The assertion that traditional social structures in Europe are weaker than they are here is beyond preposterous.
blerb |
09.22.07 - 7:04 pm | #
I just found out that my super skipped on his wife 3 months ago.
Now who am I going to get to fix my curtain rod?
HoneyBearKelly |
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09.22.07 - 7:06 pm | #
HoneyBearKelly,
Call Jennifer. She appears to be very handy.
res ipsa loquitur |
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09.22.07 - 7:07 pm | #
I dunno, fokes, I just think we should go and start our own country somewhere. We could call it, AMERICA. No one is using that name anymore.
We could actually have a democracy. We can use the old Constitution, they don't need it anymore. The main difference would be that my America would not have any stock brokers, insurance companies, or other hangers-on. If they actually want to live in my America, they will have to find something useful to offer: otherwise, out the fucking door.
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 7:07 pm | #
The idea that corporations should be allowed free reign with unregulated power (Enron, GE, Boeing) is nothing more than fascism.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
09.22.07 - 7:08 pm | #
Europe is people with strange creatures with no heads.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 7:09 pm | #
"Notre Dame goes to 0-4 for the first time in their storied history."
There's a first time for everything.
pie
Touchdown Jesus is flipping twin birds.
lipreader |
09.22.07 - 7:09 pm | #
I dunno, fokes, I just think we should go and start our own country somewhere. We could call it, AMERICA. No one is using that name anymore.
I for one was all for the secession of Jesusland.
But then I like northern weather, so I'm good with keeping the cold climes.
Jim |
09.22.07 - 7:10 pm | #
Spinoza, and it's claimed by some that the only economic system compatible with democracy is capitalism. An absurd statement if there ever was one.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
09.22.07 - 7:10 pm | #
Europe is where dead fish go to be eaten by Atrios.
Zap Rowsdower |
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09.22.07 - 7:10 pm | #
Time to go enbalm my pork butts.....
blerb |
09.22.07 - 7:10 pm | #
The idea that corporations should be allowed free reign with unregulated power (Enron, GE, Boeing) is nothing more than fascism.
Spinoza is worse than Mussolini!
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 7:11 pm | #
I'd be delighted if Notre Dame went O for '07.
HoneyBearKelly |
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09.22.07 - 7:11 pm | #
Jim, we can keep the Great Lakes states, WA, OR, NY, PA, NJ and New England along with CA and HI.
Yes, we get HI. That's just the way it is.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
09.22.07 - 7:11 pm | #
Spinoza, and it's claimed by some that the only economic system compatible with democracy is capitalism.
Depends how you define capitalism, I'd say.
blerb |
09.22.07 - 7:12 pm | #
NTodd, would you say that if Spinoza was hanging from a meat hook?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
09.22.07 - 7:12 pm | #
Spinoza is worse than Mussolini!
NTodd the Newt
SPinoza is worse than DWD! (Hell, and he is RIGHT too and that makes him MUCH worse than Mussolini)
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 7:12 pm | #
I sometimes read to my mom some of the wingnut ideas about Europe. She can't get over her shock, because her idea of the U.S. is based on movies. She keeps asking me whether something has been added to the water to make the most progressive and egalitarian nation turn into a kinder, gentler Taliban. I'm arguing that it wasn't that progressive or egalitarian but she points out the movies and so on.
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09.22.07 - 7:12 pm | #
Blerb, and how one defines democracy as well.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
09.22.07 - 7:12 pm | #
Jim, we can keep the Great Lakes states, WA, OR, NY, PA, NJ and New England along with CA and HI.
Yes, we get HI. That's just the way it is.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
WORKS FOR ME: Let's make it happen
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 7:13 pm | #
Europe is people with strange creatures with no heads.
nononono...yes! (vicar of Dibley)
they have to have heads to store those dirty teef in
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 7:13 pm | #
Jim, we can keep the Great Lakes states, WA, OR, NY, PA, NJ and New England along with CA and HI.
Yes, we get HI. That's just the way it is.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
I think we should also get AZ and New Mexico.
Jim |
09.22.07 - 7:13 pm | #
What about Maryland and DC?
blerb |
09.22.07 - 7:15 pm | #
Blerb, we can have MD and DC.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
09.22.07 - 7:15 pm | #
I wish I could figure out a way to live in Yurp for a year or two. The borg has many offices all over the planet. I hope that after I've done another year there I could get someone to send me to one of the Yurp ones for a while.
res ipsa loquitur |
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09.22.07 - 7:15 pm | #
From below: How are your drywall skills?
Not so good, actually.
Snow, Liberal |
09.22.07 - 7:15 pm | #
I sometimes read to my mom some of the wingnut ideas about Europe. She can't get over her shock, because her idea of the U.S. is based on movies. She keeps asking me whether something has been added to the water to make the most progressive and egalitarian nation turn into a kinder, gentler Taliban. I'm arguing that it wasn't that progressive or egalitarian but she points out the movies and so on.
Echidne
I always tell my Yurpeen friends that they can't understand Bush if they dont' understand American Fundies. I used to tell them to watch Duvall's Apostle, I think I'll tell them to watch Jesusland instead, now.
Jim |
09.22.07 - 7:15 pm | #
I'm not that picky, but any nation that doesn't include Maui will be unacceptable
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
09.22.07 - 7:16 pm | #
So, what do we do with the Republicans who don't want to leave? Tell them to just shut up or leave? (No voting rights, no rights to own property, and no rights to assembly: that would work for me. You want these things, take your ass down to Jesusland or Dumbfuckingstan or whatever you choose to call what's left of America after you take the intelligence out of it.)
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 7:16 pm | #
What about Maryland and DC?
Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 7:17 pm | #
Snow,
So what's up with this new lady friend of yours? How long has this been going on? Should I be jealous?
res ipsa loquitur |
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09.22.07 - 7:17 pm | #
I posted on the secession idea once. Got an enormous amount of flak from readers who, quite rightly, pointed out that there are many dirty fucking hippies in red states and they cannot necessarily move that easily.
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 7:18 pm | #
Europe is clearly ahead of us. One of those pet issues I've been meaning to blog about.
The US may get there in a hundred years or so...
Although I hear Iowa struck down the ban on gay marriage, so who knows....?
Culture of TrÜth |
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09.22.07 - 7:21 pm | #
I posted on the secession idea once. Got an enormous amount of flak from readers who, quite rightly, pointed out that there are many dirty fucking hippies in red states and they cannot necessarily move that easily.
They can fucking walk or hitchhike.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 7:21 pm | #
So what's up with this new lady friend of yours?
I am never sure.
How long has this been going on?
I asked her out a year ago and she said no. We've been going out ever since.
My license don't transfer and I have vowed to never pass another bar.
Snow, Liberal |
09.22.07 - 7:22 pm | #
Heh.
res ipsa loquitur |
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09.22.07 - 7:23 pm | #
Echidne,
But times and circumstances do change. Since McCain did his war dance the other night, I have been thinking seriously about it. Honestly. This man was hooting and hollering about being able to sustain a war that 70% of this country has rejected!
My God! That is fucking insane. They are talking of spending TRILLIONS of dollars on Bush's Folly! WTF is wrong with these fools? They still won't describe these mammoth bases they are building. Americans are being kept in the dark and are happy children for it: well, some of them, I am not.
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 7:23 pm | #
My license don't transfer and I have vowed to never pass another bar.
You won't have to pass the bar as United Fucking States of New America Senator Snow, m-fers.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 7:23 pm | #
Spinoza is definitely better on DVD.
Doug Watts |
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09.22.07 - 7:23 pm | #
I would love to get back to Yurp. My office doesn't have branches anywhere.
Culture of TrÜth |
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09.22.07 - 7:24 pm | #
the secession stuff is just snark, of course but when I see shit like this, it sounds like a plan
[H]e's going to move "In God We Trust" to the front of the new dollar coins instead of the side. [...]
[Romney added,] "I'll make sure that our future is defined not by the letters ACLU, but by the letters USA."
Jim |
09.22.07 - 7:24 pm | #
there are many dirty fucking hippies in red states and they cannot necessarily move that easily.
Echidne |
Send me a list of refugee camps
racymind, peace bitch |
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09.22.07 - 7:24 pm | #
Thank you very much, Trademark Dave.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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09.22.07 - 7:25 pm | #
You won't have to pass the bar as United Fucking States of New America Senator Snow, m-fers.
Wanker, if you kick South Cackalacky out, we won't have any seats in the Senate.
Snow, Liberal |
09.22.07 - 7:25 pm | #
Wanker, if you kick South Cackalacky out, we won't have any seats in the Senate.
We'll carve out a district in New North Cockafucky just for you. We can build gerrymandering into our new Constitution.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 7:26 pm | #
McCain is crazy, batshit crazy, wandering around the media screaming about fighting the same people in Iraq who attacked us on 9/11
By Nov 1, I won't be surprised if a third of the country think Iran = al Qaeda. Disappointed, but not surprised.
Jim |
09.22.07 - 7:26 pm | #
Jim,
Sorry, I don't do snark. I do fiction, but realistic fiction only. But in this case I am deadly serious. I don't want to live in the same country as John McCain and McConnell. They are insane and evil. Since I have the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence on my side: they will have to leave.
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 7:26 pm | #
We'll carve out a district in New North Cockafucky just for you. We can build gerrymandering into our new Constitution.
I prefer the current Constitution. And I won't abandon my peeps.
Snow, Liberal |
09.22.07 - 7:28 pm | #
My license don't transfer and I have vowed to never pass another bar.
Snow, Liberal
You and me both, Snow.
Na ga happen.
TJ, tired of being a chauffeur |
09.22.07 - 7:28 pm | #
Is it permitted to say that my eyes glaze over at this?
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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09.22.07 - 7:29 pm | #
Hey, the original Psycho is on tonight on AMC.
Culture of TrÜth |
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09.22.07 - 7:29 pm | #
I only pass bars when I am broke.
trifecta |
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09.22.07 - 7:29 pm | #
McCain is crazy, batshit crazy, wandering around the media screaming about fighting the same people in Iraq who attacked us on 9/11
He also sounded nuts with that "We beat you yesterday, we beat you today, adn we will beat you tomorrow" crap.
The man has snapped his cap. I don't know how anyone takes him even remotely seriously at this point.
res ipsa loquitur |
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09.22.07 - 7:29 pm | #
I only pass bars when I am broke.
I go in and ask for samples of everything on tap.
Snow, Liberal |
09.22.07 - 7:30 pm | #
I think my work has a branch in Latvia.
Viva Riga!
Zap Rowsdower
My BFF in Ohio. His Mom is Latvian. I love her, decades here and still a thick accent.
The man has snapped his cap. I don't know how anyone takes him even remotely seriously at this point.
res ipsa loquitur
Given the state of his campaign, res, I don't think anyone does.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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09.22.07 - 7:31 pm | #
I would like to go to one of them thar Scandanavian countries.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 09.22.07 - 7:25 pm
But those Scandies are all Commies!
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
09.22.07 - 7:31 pm | #
My BFF in Ohio. His Mom is Latvian. I love her, decades here and still a thick accent.
She hates Bush.
When I was HS, I hung out with a girl who's a Lett.
Her Dad loves Bush. Still writes crazy LTEs to the Strib.
Zap Rowsdower |
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09.22.07 - 7:32 pm | #
I can move to Norway when I want. But I have to eat lutefisk if I do.
trifecta |
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09.22.07 - 7:32 pm | #
I know they're commies, but they're commies with a small "c." They're cute commies.
I want to go to RES BORG COPENHAGEN or RES BORG STOCKHOLM or even RES BORG AMSTERDAM.
res ipsa loquitur |
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09.22.07 - 7:33 pm | #
I lived in Switzerland as youth and did a study abroad in college in little place called Italy, though it was so formative it counts as more than just the 6 months I was there.
Culture of TrÜth |
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09.22.07 - 7:33 pm | #
He also sounded nuts with that "We beat you yesterday, we beat you today, adn we will beat you tomorrow" crap.
The man has snapped his cap. I don't know how anyone takes him even remotely seriously at this point.
res ipsa loquitur |
Did you catch the end of Tweey yesterday?
Tweets: "Why is he so angry?"
Jay Carney: "Oh, I don't think he's angry...."
Tweety (interrupting, incredulous): Have you been in the same room with him?"
(JEEEEVAAAAAN!!! FIX THIS CRAZY THING!!!)
Yes I already said it you dickwad but you wouldn't post it!!
Jim |
09.22.07 - 7:33 pm | #
Inspired by a Trademark Dave concept ...
res ipsa loquitur |
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09.22.07 - 7:34 pm | #
Have you driven a Ford lately?
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Ford Continues To Finance Homosexuality
Ford ups gay support with more cash donations
Just announced by Human Rights Campaign, Ford Motor Company donates $25,000 to aid group in its fight to defeat a Federal Marriage Amendment.
The Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the nation’s largest homosexual activist organization, is acclaiming Ford Motor Company as its top-tier sponsor of an upcoming October 6 “Gala Dinner” in Washington, DC.
HRC uses event sponsorships to fund their agenda, and is largely recognized as the frontline political lobbying group for homosexual marriage in America.
Is it permitted to say that my eyes glaze over at this?
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
I defer: please advise what to do in this circumstance. Honestly, I am about to simply give up. The supreme court is packed with imbeciles. The Congress cannot do anything. The Democrats refuse to do anything. The president is a moron. The War is an exercise in futility that is bankrupting this country, killing and maiming MILLIONS of people, and will never end. Our tax system is a joke. Our infrastructure is going to hell. (In Illinois they have THREE HUNDRED bridges is worse shape than the one that collapsed in Minnesota) Our economy is in shambles. There are no jobs for people. Wages have stagnated. Inflation (in spite of government figures) is running rampant. We have churches advising the government. We have an Air Force being ruled by crazy Fundies. We have people hastening the Rapture.
OT: Is there a more perfect musical than Kiss Me Kate? Or a more perfect actress than Ann Miller?
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 7:34 pm | #
little place called Italy, though it was so formative it counts as more than just the 6 months I was there.
Not the Monica Bellucci story again....
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 7:34 pm | #
veto kid's healthcare, but 200B for the iraq nightmare.
will the dems swat at this softball?
gary in fl |
09.22.07 - 7:34 pm | #
In todays other news: I swear it wasn't me.
A 28-year-old-man was shot in the right shoulder by a bicyclist, after his car nearly collided with the bicycle, police said Saturday.
According to police:
The man was driving east on W. Burnham St. and the bicyclist south on S. 11th St. about 10:45 p.m Friday when there was a near collision. The man stopped his car to check on the bicyclist who had fallen to the pavement. At that point, the bicyclist stood up and fired three shots at the driver of the car, hitting him once.
The driver then drove to the house of a friend, who took him to the hospital where he was treated and released. The bicyclist was being sought by police on Saturday. No further details were available.
Ralphie-Myrmidon |
09.22.07 - 7:34 pm | #
Ooh, we should all move in with Dan Mcenroe's family. I'm sure they have some winter estate with reindeer and ice skating.
Culture of TrÜth |
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09.22.07 - 7:34 pm | #
I prefer the current Constitution. And I won't abandon my peeps.
You stupid fucking ideologue. You will be first against the wall in our Mighty Revolution. Then after we spit on you, you will work in our eclair mines.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 7:35 pm | #
I drive an Escape, actually.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 7:37 pm | #
When I went to Greece last year, I was struck by how afraid for my life my conservative friends were. You see, Europe has gun control, so it's a veritable third-world war zone where you can be knifed just walking down the street to get yourself some souvlaki.
Sovay |
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09.22.07 - 7:37 pm | #
trifecta,
Enjoy them: before you know it they are 6'2" and asking you for thousands of dollars. . . .
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 7:37 pm | #
the boys are cute
Damn it
trifecta
Why, yes. Yes, they are.
Tater is going to be a big lad, isn't he?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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09.22.07 - 7:38 pm | #
res ipsa that stuff is funny.
HoneyBearKelly |
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09.22.07 - 7:38 pm | #
Sorry forgive my geekiness. I put on Netflix watch it now while I sorted socks. And damn, I love this movie, as offensive as it is on a feminist level.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 7:40 pm | #
OT: Is there a more perfect musical than Kiss Me Kate? Or a more perfect actress than Ann Miller?
Molly Ivors
No. And. No.
"Brush Up Your Shakespeare"
"Where is the Life I Lately Lead"
(Where is it now? Totally dead!)
"It's Too Damn Hot!"
Love it. Love it. Love it.
Shaw Kenawe, unrepentant liber |
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09.22.07 - 7:40 pm | #
/curtsies -res ipsa loquitur
Were you also turning red? 'Coz that would be a curtsy flush.
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 7:40 pm | #
Little Tommy Friedman is in Teh Big Punkinhead right now .. CNBC .. lets see if he makes any more FU pronouncements
Joe Klein's conscience |
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09.22.07 - 7:40 pm | #
Enjoy them: before you know it they are 6'2" and asking you for thousands of dollars. . . .
DWD - Uncivil
It's amazing how quickly that happens, too.
trifecta, I have a pic of my boys (now 15 and 17) EXACTLY like that one, I'll have to dig it up and scan it or something.
TJ, tired of being a chauffeur |
09.22.07 - 7:40 pm | #
Does Home Depot sell feminist levels, or only Lowes?
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 7:40 pm | #
Europe is not like the U.S.. The individual countries there are quite different from each other. And no place on earth is a paradise, so there are things Americans might not like about some of those countries or even all of them. But it's not Eurabia and it's not some hedonic paradise.
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 7:41 pm | #
GWPDA is right: you fight like hell for justice in the world, and you make meaning in your own life. That's all there is.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 7:41 pm | #
Little Tommy Friedman is in Teh Big Punkinhead right now .. CNBC .. lets see if he makes any more FU pronouncements
Joe Klein's conscience
Ugh. All that smug in one room? Why isn't it painful.
One of life's major transitions. Congratulations.
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 7:45 pm | #
Does Home Depot sell feminist levels, or only Lowes?
WTF is a feminist level? I buy all my levels at Menards. None of them are sexually oriented.
Ralphie-Myrmidon |
09.22.07 - 7:45 pm | #
Alternatively, knitting is always salutary. A sovereign cure for shell shock.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
Seems a pittance, doesn't it?
My problem is this: I don't know how much longer I have. Hell, maybe I will die tonight. I have two boys about to go into the world. I want a better place: they are not going to get it. That makes me MAD. Furious, actually.
And to see these people celebrating their boorishness is not within my ability to stomach. I am a gentle, kind, and loving person but honestly, they bring the hatred out in me. Celebrating their ability to keep DEATH happening for the Iraqi people and the children of the poor of the United States! That is sick.
I honestly believe it is time for people to stand up for their rights against a government that does not respond to their wishes or desires. (But what do I know?)
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 7:45 pm | #
That's so fucking gaiii.
I'm a girl. When I'm gaiii, it's teh hawt.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 7:45 pm | #
Hey Ralphie.
My GF subs at Allen-Field. In-laws live at 15th and Orchard.
I'm just back from a trip to the Twin Cities, and want to at least explore a chance to move there. Midwesterners know Wisconsinites bail on the state because our wages can't match those in MN or IL. GF is recalcitrant - won't even CONSIDER relocating out of Milwaukee.
Milwaukee is eating itself alive with violence. If I ever have kids, I don't want them raised in Milwaukee.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
09.22.07 - 7:45 pm | #
I mowed a lawn today. My lawn.
First time I've mowed grass since I was a teen.
Zap Rowsdower
Pretty neat-o, hunh? Wait til you both remember to buy the air filters and then INSTAL the air filters.... Like being a grownup.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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09.22.07 - 7:45 pm | #
Does Home Depot sell feminist levels, or only Lowes?
First time I've mowed grass since I was a teen.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 09.22.07 - 7:43 pm | #
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I'll be over right away to walk on it.
Some Neighborhood Kid |
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09.22.07 - 7:46 pm | #
I wonder if Doncjesuis has read the NYT today. I wonder if his love for Tina Fey has been shattered like so many diamond chips from Graspy Little Judy Nathan's tiara.
res ipsa loquitur |
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09.22.07 - 7:46 pm | #
My problem is this: I don't know how much longer I have. Hell, maybe I will die tonight. I have two boys about to go into the world. I want a better place: they are not going to get it. That makes me MAD. Furious, actually.
Tune in Fox News Sunday to see Wallace and Hume expose Hillary Clinton to her first real questioning. They may singlehandedly derail her campaign. Both journalists are among the toughest in the business and should mop up the floor wih her.
slamclik |
09.22.07 - 7:47 pm | #
Calling all Boston and environs Atriots!
We're trying to get a Little Eschaton get together in late October, early November (depends on when res i.l. can get here).
Send me your email addresses. I'll be happy to do the organizing.
shawkenawe (at) yahoo (dot) com
Shaw Kenawe,unrepentant libera |
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09.22.07 - 7:47 pm | #
But in this case I am deadly serious. I don't want to live in the same country as John McCain and McConnell. They are insane and evil. Since I have the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence on my side: they will have to leave.
If you are serious this means that: You have a plan to force populations to move and to abandon other populations, it sounds like. And if the people who are not supposed to be in your country want to stay there, what will you do, kill them? You are abandoning all of the southern states. I hope you have not had the blackheartedness to complain about the government's handling of Hurricane Katrina disaster.
Ebenezer Le Page |
09.22.07 - 7:47 pm | #
Roadmaster...La Crosse is nice and really cheap to live/rent/dine out.
dew, omnischievous grin |
09.22.07 - 7:47 pm | #
but which is best for an air filter?
I found mine at the tractor supply store. The home improvement stores were useless, possibly because they want you to buy a whole new lawnmower.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 7:47 pm | #
My problem is this: I don't know how much longer I have.
I'm sorry, but who does? My Money Lady insists on budgeting me as tho I'll live about thirty years longer than it's statistically likely I shall. I am hopeful that I'll pack it in within the next fifteen. You have what you have. Make the obligatory gesture toward self-preservation and for the rest - to hell with it.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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09.22.07 - 7:48 pm | #
If I ever have kids, I don't want them raised in Milwaukee.
I'm too damn old to argue this point. I'm sure you're right.
Ralphie-Myrmidon |
09.22.07 - 7:48 pm | #
the difference between USAmerica and Germany in particular is that we have a "Soziale Marktwirtschaft" a social market.
Which basically means that althought Goverment has no implicit right to regulate the markets, it can set up binding rules if these restriction help the greater good.
By ruling that chimneys must be build with filtersystems to keep out heavy toxins of the air, the rules help the greater god. Not prevent business.
Also Tax generated for social services are not seen as hand outs. They are a right to everyone living in Germany. One pays tax not to provide had outs to others, but to receive "welfare" when unemployed, sick or otherwise unable to provide for their "own welfare".
these rules are somewhat changing, as the "free" (i call it "subsidized") maket model of the USAmerican Businesses are more and more championed.
But there is still a sense of utter destruction and poverty left in my country, me born in 68, i lived in an area where the last bombed out buildings were destroyed in the 70s. My mum - one of nine - born in 42 remembers collecting cigarette butts, to collect the tobacco for grandma's smoke. Going to harvest potatos and being payed with a bag of potatos
The missing old man in many familys. A generation without grandfathers.
So war/endless war/totaler krieg which always goes with social misery, been there, done that, still paying "die blutschuld" - the blood dept.
I never quite understood the USAmerican reasoning in matters of "solial wellfare" and "free market". But by following the last years of mayhem, blood, gore and sadistic pleasures, I have come to accept the fact that black is white and day is night.
USAmericans can not, will not, for some reason admit that they fucked up badly the greater good of their country and their people and the planet we all depend on.
history repeating itself, because we have learned nothing.
saine
Chocolate chip. Dig in, they're still warm.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
09.22.07 - 7:50 pm | #
I lived in Switzerland as youth and did a study abroad in college in little place called Italy, though it was so formative it counts as more than just the 6 months I was there.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 09.22.07 - 7:33 pm | #
Oh, that's right, your little Hogwarts-in-Switzerland boarding school.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
09.22.07 - 7:50 pm | #
Cool day in SoCal, which means...cookies!
Chocolate chip. Dig in, they're still warm.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
My daughter said it was raining when she called me today from O.C.
"it is incredibly striking in general just how insane/ignorant/whatever your typical wingnut sounds when they talk about some continent called Yurp which doesn't actually exist."
Hey, they don't travel.
They don't even bother to READ about any country but Murka.
Is it any wonder they're ignorant???
Terry C - I HATE Bush! |
09.22.07 - 8:19 pm | #
our dollar has died and all the cons talk about is "Eurabia"
jr |
09.22.07 - 10:15 pm | #
They have better food, longer vacations, spend more time with their families, less crime, better recreational facilities, better public transit, better health care, better pensions, take better care of their poor, and free bicycles.
It's hell, I tell you, hell.
alan in sf |
09.22.07 - 10:39 pm | #
"it is incredibly striking in general just how insane/ignorant/whatever your typical wingnut sounds when they talk about some continent called Yurp which doesn't actually exist."
Like the Chimp, they are willfully ignorant. They don't travel, and don't want to, "cuz MURKA's the best".
Willful ignorance makes it possible to defend their fantasy rightard world and prevent it from collapsing under pressure from the reality of facts, experience and observation.
Yet their ignorance of Europe is proportional to their absolute, shouting certainty that their opinions about it are correct.
Mike G |
09.23.07 - 12:38 am | #
Spinoza, and it's claimed by some that the only economic system compatible with democracy is capitalism.
Depends how you define capitalism, I'd say.
Apples and oranges. Capitalism is a way to harness economic power. Democracy is a way for the people as a whole to fairly control ALL the centers of power in their society. Whether capitalism is good or bad depends on how well it is regulated and controlled. It's like electricity that way. There's a big difference between an extension cord plugged into your TV and one plugged into your ass.
This essential point is often obscured by the self-interested whining of business leaders, who prate of "free markets" when they really want state socialism jigged to pour all available money into their own pockets.
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sunsin |
09.23.07 - 12:42 am | #
I honestly believe it is time for people to stand up for their rights against a government that does not respond to their wishes or desires. (But what do I know?)
The first American politician who gives a speech beginning, "The Philistines are upon thee, Sampson...." is going to get one hell of a response.
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sunsin |
09.23.07 - 12:54 am | #
The first American politician who gives a speech beginning, "The Philistines are upon thee, Sampson...." is going to get one hell of a response.
I suspect that unfortunately he'd get JFK'd or Wellstoned by Cheney or his cronies who benefit massively from the current system.
Kyle |
09.23.07 - 3:34 am | #