I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

i predict wednesday.


im using statistics.


GravatarSteelers Fan made a comment on an earlier thread about Columbus.

Made me think of this:


http://thumbsnap.com/v/bHU4kDyk.jpg


Gravatar% data


Gravatarso far, it's been a tuesday, but not like a lot of other tuesdays. still, i feel comfortable in making a generalization.


GravatarI believe your statistics are correct, but you shouldn't take my word for it considering I am not a mathematician.


GravatarOh boy.


GravatarWhy are all these Senators so tan?


Gravatarfresh sheets, someone bring me some chocolate bon bons and wine....


Gravatar"And god knows no product ever fails.

Movies are always tested and the marketing campaigns are huge, yet, oddly enough, a significant number of them bomb at the box office."


I guess you missed the part about probability.

Just because a specific marketing effort fails doesn't mean that much of marketing isn't based in science.

You don't even realize it, but retail layout is all based on studies of human behavior.


GravatarSam Brownback is part native american.


GravatarBeeble.


GravatarDidn't you know there was a rooftop pool where the senators sunbathed in between votes?


GravatarDidn't you know there was a rooftop pool where the senators sunbathed in between votes?
sardine | 07.14.09 - 9:05 pm | #

i hope that's not on google earth.


GravatarAmerica's Siamese Cat!


GravatarDidn't you know there was a rooftop pool where the senators sunbathed in between votes?
sardine | 07.14.09 - 9:05 pm |

Is that why Boner looks like bacon?


Gravatar""Ann Arbor ain't no schlub wrt health care, either."

cleveland is HUGE in health care.

if you can afford it.


GravatarJeffCO: that was the position of Ernst Mach, who, never having seen an atom, didn't believe in them... ProfWombat

Ironically, it can sometimes be quite difficult for a person as clever as Mach to be brought up to speed.


Gravatarcleveland is HUGE in health care.

Nooooooooooooooo.....


GravatarOK, I did go turn the water off. Nothing bit me AND, Mother, the warm wet dirt smells amazing now that the sun's gone down.


GravatarSam Brownback is part native american.
moon | 07.14.09 - 9:03 pm | #
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Not the part attached to his brain.


GravatarNooooooooooooooo.....
Steeler Fan | 07.14.09 - 9:07 pm |

you guys are just lucky that what's his face moved the team to baltimore. think about what it would feel like getting your ass kicked by cleveland.


GravatarI haven't seen it so I don't believe Barack has a birth certificate.


GravatarWell, you guys have been fun. Got to get up early tomorrow.


GravatarOnce more with feeling:

My beloved wrote a post about this community and how much it has meant to us.


GravatarJeffCO: that was the position of Ernst Mach, who, never having seen an atom, didn't believe in them ...
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I do not believe in self-contracted syphillis.


GravatarI haven't seen it so I don't believe Barack has a birth certificate

Unless I put my hand in the wound in your side . . . .


GravatarI've never seen the wind so I posit the leaves are moving because the tree is willing them to.


GravatarThat was a sweet post, NTodd. Hugs to all three of you.


Gravatari'm not willing to dismiss parapsychology out of hand. it could be a young science. just because i've never seen a ghost...


Gravatar"I've never seen the wind so I posit the leaves are moving because the tree is willing them to."



GravatarNo, seriously. By the same dynamic that put Sarah Palin on last year's presidential ticket, Jak Sessions would never have been elected to the Senate had there not been so many Alabamians pissed off when the Senate refused to confirm him as a federal judge.


Gravatarand remember all those physicists that supported uri geller.


GravatarThe best aspect of the atrocious Sotomayor theater is seeing somuch of Dahlia Lithwick on Rachel.


GravatarWhat about the climatologists supporting Chevron?

Oh....money is involved...never mind.


Gravatarrachel has the best guests of any talk show i've ever seen.


Gravatarpretzel, did someone give you a good deal on straw men or did you just come here for an argument?


GravatarBobby Jindal worried about human/animal hybrids!


Gravatard/t'd
What I love about Queen Anne's Lace is the delicate structure of the leaves, and the intricate, white flowerhead. Beautiful plant.
Vicki,

and poisonous, be careful with them.

there's bunches of colleges in GR. lots of job oppy's.


GravatarTuesday's nearly over?

But we haven't even had dinner yet!  Hell, it's not even quite time to cook it!


GravatarI've never seen the wind so I posit the leaves are moving because the tree is willing them to.

Well, this is true. And the mechanism that the trees use is . . . .


Are you the leaf, the blossom, or the bole?
Oh, body swayed to music,
Oh, brightening glance!
How can we know the dancer from the dance?



It's all real. It's all metaphor. There's always more.


Gravatarwhite man whose constantly deraded

i wonder if tcb is around to give us some examples of these unceasing depredations

can't think of any, m'self...

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GravatarBobby Jindal worried about human/animal hybrids!

As did anyone who saw Mansquito!


Gravatarnd poisonous, be careful with them.

You know, I grow a few poisonous things.



GravatarHecate knows what's a meta for.


Gravatar"The best aspect of the atrocious Sotomayor theater is seeing somuch of Dahlia Lithwick on Rachel."

yes, this is nice.


Gravatarsardine 20:52

best bible verse ever

.


GravatarQueen Anne's Lace certainly is beautiful. But I'm totally allergic to it. Sneeze my head off if I'm anywhere near it.


GravatarSam Brownback is part native american.
moon


You keep posting that bullshit and you know it is not true.

Now fuck off, jack!


GravatarSure it's ok when Jeff Goldblum merges with a fly and has sex with Geena Davis.

But then, Eric Stoltz is spawned in a really horrific sequel and everybody is left feeling mightily shagrined.


GravatarWhere is Dick Cheney and can it be filled with cement?


GravatarJust because a specific marketing effort fails doesn't mean that much of marketing isn't based in science.

Based in science and being a science are two different things. If in a rather significant proportion of instances, the theory of gravity didn't work, it would not be a scientific theory.


GravatarJames Randi famously said that Geller, a fake, could fool those not expecting deception, but would be easily unmasked by a stage magician.

Parapsychology has contributed nothing but null results. The phenomena it purports to investigate have never been unambiguously demonstrated in reproducible fashion. Not much of a science at all, at this point. Contrast it with alchemy, which never transmuted lead to gold, but gave birth to chemistry.


GravatarAs did anyone who saw Mansquito!

We had some dimwit come on during the graveyard shift claiming a human-animal hybrid had been created.  He also used the term 'chimera' incorrectly, using it interchangeably with 'hybrid.'

He didn't think Brownback was out to lunch on this.  I told him that if he thinks that, he clearly does not know how to read scientific literature.


Gravatari dont think it's a straw man. newton saw an apple fall, and posited a theory of gravity. freud saw some hysterics, and posited a theory of the unconscious. the guy at duke saw some people apparently predicting sequences of cards and posited esp. i just think psychology, particularly in the treatment and psychometic fields, is still full of pseudoscience. i agree to disagree about it.


Gravatarand remember all those physicists that supported uri geller.
pretzel | 07.14.09 - 9:13 pm | #

This Uri Geller?


GravatarI don't really know who Dahlia Lithwick is. But from her name, she sounds like someone who might have a pretty nasty Polymorph Other spell.
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GravatarSarah Palin on last year's presidential ticket

another phenomenon that science cannot explain

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GravatarHecate, nightshade?


GravatarContrast it with alchemy, which never transmuted lead to gold, but gave birth to chemistry.

And distilling!


Gravataryeah, that geller. randi is the guy that unmasked him, or at least did so most effectively.


GravatarLindsey Graham pounded Sotomayor like a piece of meat today. Stay tuned. More tomorrow. Republican message is really starting to connect with the people. Obamma's failed economic policies, liberal judges, failed healthcare plan. GOP teeing up nicely for 2010 mid terms, 25-30 seat pick up in the House.


GravatarNot dead

but cranky


GravatarProfWombat, I wish I could say where I am just about now.  But then - I'm an old widdowwoman and no longer considered.


  goodnight.
(Who the hell iz this 'sardine' creature?  And what about its calcium content?)


GravatarToo late to worry about human/pig hybrids......there's Limbaugh!


Gravatar"Based in science and being a science are two different things. If in a rather significant proportion of instances, the theory of gravity didn't work, it would not be a scientific theory."


So why is the number 9 the most common number at the end of prices? If there were no science to human behavior, why would prices tend to be like that?


GravatarThat was stupid even by his standards.


Gravatarfishes can't type

they don't even have opposable thumbs

so I really doubt that a sardine actually took the time to flop out of the water, find a computer and start a new thread

just sayin


GravatarYou know, Empedocles figured out there were atoms thanks to the "water thief."


GravatarI'll always remember Uri Geller for being a Michael Jackson hanger-on.


GravatarSo why is the number 9 the most common number at the end of prices? If there were no science to human behavior, why would prices tend to be like that?
fred | 07.14.09 - 9:22 pm | #

there is a psychiatrist that said marketers have much more to teach psychologists than vice versa.


Gravatarjust sayin
pigboy


so says the human-animal hybrid.


Gravatar(Who the hell iz this 'sardine' creature? And what about its calcium content?)

GWPDA

i figured it's just a canned program.


GravatarObama in the broadcast booth at the all star game. Fox.


GravatarI'll always remember Uri Geller for being a Michael Jackson hanger-on.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch* | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 9:23 pm | #

really!? michael crichton a fan too.


GravatarSo why is the number 9 the most common number at the end of prices? If there were no science to human behavior, why would prices tend to be like that?

A couple of summers ago, I was driving through Ontario and noticed a lot of the gas stations had 102.2/litre prices.


GravatarOnce more for the ladies of a certain age.  Beloveds. 

We'll be fine.  We're here.


GravatarContrast it with alchemy, which never transmuted lead to gold, but gave birth to chemistry.

Ever read The Arcanum, about porcelain?


Gravatarso says the human-animal hybrid.
Ali | 07.14.09 - 9:24 pm | #

I have a special made key pad..... unlike any sardine that I have ever known of.....


GravatarA lot of people seem to be confusing understanding behavior and the ability to change behavior.

An astronomer may be able to predict the movement of an object with a high degree of certainty, but it doesn't mean that person is able to change the course of that movement.


Gravataryeah, that geller. randi is the guy that unmasked him, or at least did so most effectively.
pretzel | 07.14.09 - 9:21 pm | #
--
I found James Randi's 1978 book "The Truth about Uri Geller" at our town library last year. It is fascinating. What's beautiful is how James Randi and Johnny Carson (who was an amateur magician himself) conspired together to keep Uri Geller from being able to do his spoon bending trick on Carson's show by preventing anyone but Carson from having access to the actual spoons Uri Geller was supposed to bend. And because Geller relied on pre-bent spoons that were almost broken, and Carson forced him to use fresh spoons, Geller went into epic fail on national teevee.

kool.


GravatarSo why is the number 9 the most common number at the end of prices?

You haven't been to Walmart, have you? Very few of their prices end in 9. They've built their massive marketing dominance on lower the other numbers.


GravatarTuesday's gone
With the wind...


GravatarBut of course Jonah Goldberg is stupid.

I read the article, and...yeesh. He really is Ignacious O'Goldberg, isn't he?


GravatarSure it's ok when Jeff Goldblum merges with a fly and has sex with Geena Davis.


Parts of that movie were really disgusting.

I like the original (with Vincent Price) better.


Gravatarpounded Sotomayor like a piece of meat

paging dr freud

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GravatarAn astronomer may be able to predict the movement of an object with a high degree of certainty, but it doesn't mean that person is able to change the course of that movement.

Muhammad moved a mountain, so I'll bet he could move a planet.


GravatarObama talking about the Nationals:

We are all Expos fans now.


GravatarRhine's data hasn't reproducibly demonstrated ESP, and, per some auditors, wasn't all that great even then and of itself.

Not hard to demonstrate gravity. Newton's great insights were the inverse square law, the calculus, and, above all, the idea that the same gravity that makes apples fall down here makes the moon and the tides and the orbits of the planets up there.

Freud, too, was trying to explain easily observed phenomena, though his work is far less influential at this point.

No one has ever demonstrated ESP. Ever. That's a very different thing than a new theory of gravity.


GravatarSo why is the number 9 the most common number at the end of prices?

Number nine... number nine... number nine... number nine... number nine...


Gravatarpounded Sotomayor like a piece of meat



SOMEBODY hates women.


GravatarI will never forgive the LAT for firing Robert Scheer and bringing in Jonah Goldberg.  Disgusting.


GravatarAn astronomer may be able to predict the movement of an object with a high degree of certainty, but it doesn't mean that person is able to change the course of that movement.
fred


The space probes have changed the direction of Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

A bit.


GravatarI like the original (with Vincent Price) better.

Help me, help me!

But puking was a nice touch in the Cronenberg version.


GravatarObama in the broadcast booth at the All Star game on Fox. Very entertaining and cool.


GravatarI like the original (with Vincent Price) better.

That ending's pretty creepy!


Gravatarpounded Sotomayor like a piece of meat

I doubt that rattled her much.


GravatarBut puking was a nice touch in the Cronenberg version.
NTodd, Wise Latina


That's exactly what I was close to doing after watching it.

It's on my "once was enough" list.



GravatarI will never forgive the LAT for firing Robert Scheer and bringing in Jonah Goldberg. Disgusting.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

I was stunned by that. They are not even on the same planet. Goldberg is such a massive stupid twit.


GravatarSessions Treats White Male Nominees Differently Than Female Latina Nominees

http://crooksandliars.com/

I am so suprised that Judge Sonia Sotomayor didn't giggle or roll her eyes while Sessions bloviates on and on never asking a question of her. The little weasel.


GravatarSo why is the number 9 the most common number at the end of prices?

it's a love potion


GravatarAuggy, you stupid punk. If there's one thing Graham does not do, it's pound women.


Gravatar$3.99 is less than $4.

Therefore $3.99 equals $3 in some people's heads.


GravatarNo one has ever demonstrated ESP. Ever. That's a very different thing than a new theory of gravity.
ProfWombat | 07.14.09 - 9:26 pm | #

yeah, people make hypotheses about things unseen. one of our astronauts said he was god when he left the space vehicle. freud's work still was influential even into the 90's, and probably still. rhine, and i think this also applies to psychiatrists/psychologists, was probably conned.


GravatarJonah Goldberg's career may prove to be a sort of preview for Liz Cheney's, pundirty//politics


GravatarAuggy, you stupid punk. If there's one thing Graham does not do, it's pound women.
DJ


Neither does D'Auggy.


GravatarA Bonus Quote-O'-The-Day!


I love those folks who helped get us in this mess, and suddenly they say, "This is Obama's economy." That's fine. Give it to me.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...l.blogspot.com/


GravatarGOP teeing up nicely for 2010 mid terms, 25-30 seat pick up in the House.

I'm starting a "wingnut prediction spreadsheet," right now.


GravatarAuggy, you stupid punk. If there's one thing Graham does not do, it's pound women.
DJ


Don't ask. Don't tell.


GravatarI am so suprised that Judge Sonia Sotomayor didn't giggle or roll her eyes while Sessions bloviates on and on never asking a question of her. The little weasel.
pigboy


I liked how she talked to the Repigs like a very patient nanny trying to reason with spoiled not-too-bright children.


GravatarSessions Treats White Male Nominees Differently Than Female Latina Nominees

Unnpossible!


GravatarAuggy, you stupid punk. If there's one thing Graham does not do, it's pound women.
DJ

Don't ask. Don't tell.
pie

Don't point, don't giggle.


GravatarI hope Chimpy is in his underwear with a bottle of Jack Daniels watching his successor being the coolest guy on the planet.


GravatarWell, if you make hypotheses about things you don't observe, and can't test, seems to me it isn't science. And if your hypotheses are all you've got, there's only so much you can do with them absent data.


GravatarAuggy, you ignorant slut.


Gravatarsallyh!! How's Maddie?


GravatarI hope Chimpy is in his underwear with a bottle of Jack Daniels watching his successor being the coolest guy on the planet.
Jill


It's past his bedtime.


GravatarI'm gone.  G'night.


GravatarI liked how she talked to the Repigs like a very patient nanny trying to reason with spoiled not-too-bright children.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch* | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 9:32 pm | #

That's the way to do it. I think most of Americans are wanting more grown-ups in places of power.


Gravatarif your hypotheses are all you've got, there's only so much you can do with them absent data.

I CAN TYPE THEM IN ALL CAPS, YOU MORON!


GravatarAnd if your hypotheses are all you've got, there's only so much you can do with them absent data.
ProfWombat

see: Religions.


Gravatarmartin gardner has a good chapter about rhine in one of his books on junk science. bernard zilbergeld wrote a book about the overreaching of the mental health professions in his book "the shrinking of america", which is older (80's) but i think still applies. part of the problem is the way the larger society accepts aspects of psychology as being scientific, because their promoters have credentials. like the guy that ran that training program for resisting interrogation, for delta force guys iirc, who was then put in charge of developing techniques for interrogating people at guantanomo.


GravatarGOP teeing up nicely for 2010 mid terms, 25-30 seat pick up in the House.



This shithead never learns, does he?

He sucks at predicting and he still comes here -- after he said back in 2006 that he wouldn't be -- and talks out of his ass.


GravatarI am so suprised that Judge Sonia Sotomayor didn't giggle or roll her eyes while Sessions bloviates on and on never asking a question of her. The little weasel. -- pigboy
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She would never do that because she is smart. When you know you have already won, it is impolite to rub it in.


GravatarI liked how she talked to the Repigs like a very patient nanny trying to reason with spoiled not-too-bright children.

That's how I talk to my two year-old niece and nephew. Wait... I take that back. I speak to them like the little people they are: with dignity and respect.


GravatarUpdate on Ericka and Sam for those who've been asking.


GravatarWell, if you make hypotheses about things you don't observe, and can't test, seems to me it isn't science. And if your hypotheses are all you've got, there's only so much you can do with them absent data.
ProfWombat | 07.14.09 - 9:33 pm | #

if you have different treatment methods, and they all have roughly the same success rate, i wonder what is being tested exactly. if i had a back problem, i would expect a doctor that had training would be more effective than a chiropractor.


GravatarI am so suprised that Judge Sonia Sotomayor didn't giggle or roll her eyes while Sessions bloviates on and on never asking a question of her. The little weasel.
pigboy


She often seems to me to be thinking "Is he serious? Did Alan Fucking Funt take over CSPAN?"

I may be projecting.


GravatarWell, if you make hypotheses about things you don't observe, and can't test, seems to me it isn't scienc

freudian psychology.


Gravatar And the outpouring of support has been so utterly amazing--we've shed quite a lot of ears because of it.

I shed a nose, once.




GravatarNTodd,

Hugs to all.


GravatarI shed a nose, once.

Ah, fuck. Wonder if I can hire Greenwald's editor...


GravatarShrub doesn't go to bed. He passes out.


Gravatarfreudian psychology.
pretzel | 07.14.09 - 9:38 pm | #
--

do you have a point?


GravatarNTodd:

Good thoughts sent your family's way.


Gravatari regret that i have only 2 ears to shed


Gravatardo you have a point?
Doug Watts | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 9:40 pm | #

psychological therapy, isn't very scientific.


Gravatar"You haven't been to Walmart, have you? Very few of their prices end in 9. They've built their massive marketing dominance on lower the other numbers."


I've been to hip restaurants that have a number with a slash next to it, too. Doesn't mean that an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of prices don't end in 9, or have 9 as the second to last digit.

We place far more emphasis on the digits to the left than the digits to the right. To our brains, $2.99 communicated "2" more than it communicates "3", even though it's clearly close to $3 than to $2.

It's funny you bring up Walmart, because I'm sure they have thousands of people in their employ whose job it is to wring out as much spending as possible from their customers. Pricing is just one small piece of the puzzle.

Color, scents, lighting, layout, where sale items are placed, the whole concept of a loss leader -- all based on studying human behavior in a scientific fashion.


GravatarFreud is not the sum total of psychology, it turns out.

In fact, he's pretty much not psych at all these days.


GravatarShrub doesn't go to bed. He passes out.

last time was under the coffee table. Barney has a ball when Daddy's snoring one off.


Gravatarauggie is pleased that the GOP senators succeeded in slamming their stomachs decisively into sotomayor's defenseless boots

.


GravatarI'm back.

NTodd and Ericka, if you're still here...I keep trying to post messages to you, and getting Epic Fail.

Just know that I love you, and $$ forthcoming.


Gravatarpsychological therapy, isn't very scientific.

Clearly you've based this on a scientific study...


GravatarNTodd, glad to hear that things have stablized.

Parenthood has this wonderful way of introducing panic into your life like you've never experienced before.


Gravatarauggie is a dipshit as always. He just loves getting his ass spanked.


Gravatarauggie is pleased that the GOP senators succeeded in slamming their stomachs decisively into sotomayor's defenseless boots

.
tacitus voldebaer


D'Auggy is like that traitor of that freeper major and his lawyer who claim that the President isn't a real America.

It's called delusional.


GravatarShe would never do that because she is smart. When you know you have already won, it is impolite to rub it in.
Doug Watts | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 9:36 pm | #

That's true. Don't want to arm them with a made up slight


Gravataryes as someone remarked, psychology is a very large field. in my posts, i have talked about psychotherapy, and psychometrics, and SERE techniques (at least as far as they were supposed to elicit truth, as opposed to confessions).


GravatarVici - Typepad seems to have hiccups worse than Sam did this AM.


GravatarOops -

Real American.


GravatarShe often seems to me to be thinking "Is he serious? Did Alan Fucking Funt take over CSPAN?"

I may be projecting.
BlueinColorado | 07.14.09 - 9:37 pm | #

I did get that feeling too and I could be projecting myself.


Gravatarwell hell, i'm bawling me eyes out

love you back Ericka and NTodd


Gravatargraham is much worse than sessions. at least sessions doesn't pretend to be anything other than an asshole.


GravatarNTodd, blogspot, too. It's like it's porn or something.

I can't access it.

I really wanted to read what Ericka has written, and when I finally accessed it, I get this error box...


Gravataryes as someone remarked, psychology is a very large field. in my posts, i have talked about psychotherapy

And yet scientific studies have shown that prozac along with psychotherapy has had great success in "curing" depression, as compared to prozac alone, psychotherapy alone, and doing nothing.

Perhaps your understanding of the science is as accurate as global warming denialists'...


GravatarIf everyone is ending their prices with 9, doing so doesn't achieve anything. You might try an 8.


Gravatargraham is much worse than sessions. at least sessions doesn't pretend to be anything other than an asshole.
smarty jones


I'd like to slap the shit out of both of them.

And Kyl.


GravatarIt's called delusional.

Yet it's spelled stupid.


GravatarClearly you've based this on a scientific study...
NTodd, Wise Latina | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 9:42 pm |

as it turns out, it is very difficult to measure the success of various treatments. a lot of what are termed successes are self reports, by psychologists or psychiatrists in private practice, and difficult to evalutuate objectively.


GravatarOnce a patient came to see me with stomach cancer. There's a standard radical gastrectomy, maybe a couple of hours, including the spleen, fatty tissue (omentum), like that. Then there's a radical gastrectomy like they do in Japan, where stomach cancer, rather than rare, is endemic. They take every last node, and the lining behind the stomach, and a few other things, all in one block. They get better results in Japan. But Japanese who come here, and eat the US diet, don't get as much stomach cancer. At the time I had to decide what to do, the only study controlling the two procedures was out of Cape Town, South Africa, on mixed Afrikaans, Xhosa, English and Indian population.

So what was I to do, as a surgeon trying to practice scientifically? I wound up doing the standard operation, and she did fine. But I didn't have the data to know I was doing the right thing.


GravatarSenators Lindsay Bareback and Sam Brownback should get together.


GravatarVici, i got the error box earlier today on keepingitlit so i erased everything in the url addy line except the blog name and could see it.

/continues bawling


GravatarI liked how she talked to the Repigs like a very patient nanny trying to reason with spoiled not-too-bright children.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch*


You nailed it, Terry C. It reminds me of how my college students (the not-to-bright ones) ask the same questions over and over and I have to slow down and explain things VERY CAREFULLY to them.

She was able to do it without sounding condescending, just very patient. I admire her restraint.


Gravatarwell hell, i'm bawling me eyes out


Me, too. All day. More because of NTodd's thing than anything they're doing at work, although they are handling the situation in extreme douchebag behavior. It's documentary- worth.

NTodd, I feel it with you. I'm so sorry.


Gravataras it turns out, it is very difficult to measure the success of various treatments. a lot of what are termed successes are self reports, by psychologists or psychiatrists in private practice, and difficult to evalutuate objectively.

As it turns out, self reporting is still data, and you can account for such things. But I see you just have a significant bias against psychology, so I'm done, Mr Cruise.


GravatarOkay, peoples (pronounced: pee-op-els). Off to do some yoga. Be good and think good thoughts. It puts a smile on your face and confuses the trolls.


GravatarSo what was I to do, as a surgeon trying to practice scientifically? I wound up doing the standard operation, and she did fine. But I didn't have the data to know I was doing the right thing.
ProfWombat | 07.14.09 - 9:46 pm | #

but doing nothing would have been significantly worse.


GravatarMeh. It's only TUESDAY!!!


Gravatargraham is much worse than sessions. at least sessions doesn't pretend to be anything other than an asshole.
smarty jones |


I suspect Graham was suprised at how hard he got hit by the Freepers, etc. I think Beck singled him out at "Specter II" or some such.

These people are always stunned when the base they exploit and despise won't go back in the basement after election day


GravatarHome from hospital (sinus surgery). Very groggy, but all is well.


GravatarSo what was I to do, as a surgeon trying to practice scientifically? I wound up doing the standard operation, and she did fine. But I didn't have the data to know I was doing the right thing.

I seem to recall a big argument with JR about the power of intuition and how that's processed by people with expertise in such situations.

You went with your gut, no pun intended. But since we don't understand exactly how you did that, clearly study of the mind is not science.


Gravatarwe all love ntodd and erika and sam


Gravatar"If everyone is ending their prices with 9, doing so doesn't achieve anything"

Of course it does. It's not about price differentiation, it's about demand levels. I guarantee that the demand difference from $2.98 to $2.99 is a lot different than the demand difference from $2.99 to $3.00.

According to a 1997 study published in the Marketing Bulletin, approximately 60% of prices in advertising material ended in the digit 9, 30% ended in the digit 5, 7% ended in the digit 0 and the remaining seven digits combined accounted for only slightly over 3% of prices evaluated.

Now that many customers are used to odd pricing, high-end retailers and restaurants such as Nordstrom psychologically-price in even numbers in an attempt to reinforce their brand image of quality and sophistication.


GravatarI seem to recall a big argument with JR

Wonder what happened to her.


GravatarFrom my observation, when science meets intuition, miracles may be made.


GravatarGromit has FB mail.


GravatarWise


GravatarParenthood has this wonderful way of introducing panic into your life like you've never experienced before.

oh hell yes!!!


Gravatar at least sessions doesn't pretend to be anything other than an asshole.

he doesn't know how.

we did run a candidate against him last year. really.

female, black, brilliant, and sweet as chess pie.

predictably, she didn't stand a chance.


GravatarHome from hospital (sinus surgery). Very groggy, but all is well.
Gromit


I heard that Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon is giving discounts now that his schedule has opened up.


Gravatarno im just not convinced by self reports, about something that can't be measured. particularly behavior, when there is no long term followup.
i remember when cyril burt's studies of twins were supposed demonstrate the scientific nature of psychology. turns out the data was fraudulent. oddly, nobody had suspected that, or at least demonstrated it, for several decades. contrast cold fusion.


GravatarGromit, so glad to hear it!


GravatarWell, *I'm* never persuaded by prices that end in 9.

I'm a 3 guy.


Gravatarpsychological therapy isn't very scientific.
pretzel | 07.14.09 - 9:41 pm | #
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Understood. That's because a deterministic theory of the mind and brain is about at the same stage of development as subatomic physics was in 1,000 B.C.


GravatarJeebus, NTodd, I just saw your news. Hang in there!!!! [[manly supportive hug]]


GravatarParenthood has this wonderful way of introducing panic into your life like you've never experienced before.

oh hell yes!!!
ErinPDX | Homepage

Some wise person said it is like letting your heart walk outside your body.


GravatarWhen Rachel's done, I will ride my ugly scooter through Percy Warner Park.

Got to roll 1000km at 40mph or less, so might as well get that over with.


Gravatarscientology is not science, either. but i'm sure you can find a number of devotees that would swear it has done them a world of good.


GravatarUnderstood. That's because a deterministic theory of the mind and brain is about at the same stage of development as subatomic physics was in 1,000 B.C.
Doug Watts | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 9:52 pm

right.


GravatarNTodd: you jog me into the more precise framing that I could not, on the basis of data in my possession, construct an algorithm which would result in a clearly superior/correct course of action. And you raise the question (apologies if I take excessive liberties here) of whether I, by virtue of experience etc., could function successfully without an algorithm...


Gravatarno im just not convinced by self reports, about something that can't be measured. particularly behavior, when there is no long term followup.

And yet there can be, and is, followup. You're experiencing confirmation bias.

Sorry that humans have long lives, and we can't just put them in a particle accelerator to see what their made of.


GravatarWhen Rachel's done, I will ride my ugly scooter through Percy Warner Park.

Lucky bastard.


GravatarGood thoughts to fucknozzzle and family from here.


GravatarWell, *I'm* never persuaded by prices that end in 9.

I'm a 3 guy.
Moe Szyslak

They say it is psychological: If you see 3.99 you see it as 3 dollars with change, not one penny from 4.00$


Gravataractually i think subatomic physics in maybe 300 bc was in some respects more advanced than psychology is now.


GravatarGromit!

Hope you got the good drugz


GravatarSome wise person said it is like letting your heart walk outside your body. - ellroon, smolderingwreckian

troll parents must be built upside down and backwards ...


Gravatar theodoric of athens: Lucky bastard.

It's a nice park for an ugly scooter, for sure.


Gravatar"Well, *I'm* never persuaded by prices that end in 9. I'm a 3 guy."

Heh heh.

You're also a relatively (and sadly) rare person - someone who has well-developed skills of critical thinking.

If you ever want to see evidence that people are, by-and-large, manipulable, remember that The Shrub at one point enjoyed an approval rating of 92%.


GravatarAnd back to NTodd...


GravatarHere's some cool old soda cans.

Just for the hell of it!


GravatarFinally. Finally after an entire day of low dark clouds and high humidity, it sounds like we're going to get some rain.

This is almost as bad as waiting for news of NTodd's bebe.


Gravatarhey Gromit: glad you're out and about, sort of...


GravatarThey say it is psychological: If you see 3.99 you see it as 3 dollars with change, not one penny from 4.00$

I live in Canada. The sales tax takes $3.99 to $27.


Gravatarscientology is not science, either. but i'm sure you can find a number of devotees that would swear it has done them a world of good.

And can find no scientific studies supporting their claims. Oddly.


GravatarHave dilaudid. Will not travel.


GravatarAnd yet there can be, and is, followup. You're experiencing confirmation bias.


but in practice there isn't. what you have are reports that people feel more effective in their personal lives, or more comfortable with their feelings, or what have you. just as you do with religion, or new age stuff.


Gravatarin order for a particular science to have correct theories with reproduceable results, there has to be a period of time when this science is being practiced before the theories have been developed and perfected, eh?

.


Gravatarhow do you measure that someone is behaving more effectively in their personal life?


GravatarI live in Canada. The sales tax takes $3.99 to $27.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 9:56 pm | #
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Maritime humour !!!!

And you have to tip with loonies.


GravatarI live in Canada. The sales tax takes $3.99 to $27.

The price you pay for your socialistic ways, "comrade"!


GravatarIf you ever want to see evidence that people are, by-and-large, manipulable, remember that The Shrub at one point enjoyed an approval rating of 92%.
fred


I indeed do remember that.

I was not one of them.


GravatarI'm sure scientology DOES do some people "a world of good." Just as does Christianity, and heroin.


GravatarGromit, not to get mushy, but you're a wonderful, great, intelligent guy....just wanted you to know that.


Gravatarin order for a particular science to have correct theories with reproduceable results, there has to be a period of time when this science is being practiced before the theories have been developed and perfected, eh?

Ummmmmmmmmmm... PHFFFFFFFFFFT!!!


Gravatarin order for a particular science to have correct theories with reproduceable results, there has to be a period of time when this science is being practiced before the theories have been developed and perfected, eh?

.

sure, and maybe it isn't a science, which doessn't mean it has no value, anymore than that religion or new age beliefs have no value.


GravatarI'm sure scientology DOES do some people "a world of good." Just as does Christianity, and heroin.
Moe Szyslak

If heroin were legal....and Christianity banned.... just sayin'


Gravatarbut in practice there isn't.

I see you have, like Palin, read all the literature and found none.

how do you measure that someone is behaving more effectively in their personal life?

Because you cannot imagine it, clearly it is impossible.


GravatarGromit, not to get mushy, but you're a wonderful, great, intelligent guy....just wanted you to know that.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I'd suck up to him too, if I thought it would get me some Dilaudid.



GravatarYou don't even realize it, but retail layout is all based on studies of human behavior.






VVVLTTP, but google Right Brain People

aw hell, i'll just give it to you


http://www.rightbrainpeople.com/?p=home


GravatarI'm sure scientology DOES do some people "a world of good."

I always wanted to get hooked up to one of those gizmos that measures whatever the hell it measures... but it didn't look like they'd just let you walk away when they were done.


GravatarI live in Canada. The sales tax takes $3.99 to $27.
Moe Szyslak



GravatarThere's a wild site debunking scientology called Operation Clambake:

http://www.xenu.net/

Everythng, and more, you could possibly want to know about tham, including some of the Sacred Texts, which have to be seen to be believed...


GravatarI'm sure scientology DOES do some people "a world of good."

Like being hit by a car right?


GravatarIn Canada they just list the tax on the item. Then you calculate the actual price from there.


GravatarWonder what happened to her.

The ivory-billed woodpeckers got her.


GravatarIf heroin were legal....and Christianity banned....

What a wonderful world!
And I say to myself
What a wonderful world...


GravatarI thought I heard about a study that said that at least one of the SSRI's really didn't work for depression. The only thing they seemed to help was anger management.


GravatarYou don't even realize it, but retail layout is all based on studies of human behavior.
--

Even when they change all the aisles to confuse the old people?


GravatarXOXO back to Vicki


GravatarIf you ever want to see evidence that people are, by-and-large, manipulable, remember that The Shrub at one point enjoyed an approval rating of 92%.
fred | 07.14.09 - 9:55 pm | #


Actually that's just proof that language is complicated. In that case, for many people "I approve of W" meant something like "we're all in this together".


Gravatari need to do some errands, but it's been interesting.


GravatarGET THEE ON BRU!

bbl


Gravatarhow do you measure that someone is behaving more effectively in their personal life?

Are they meeting obligations?
Taking care of their health?
Doing their jobs?
Paying their bills?

stuff like that.


GravatarYou don't even realize it, but retail layout is all based on studies of human behavior.

So is all of marketing.


GravatarI always wanted to get hooked up to one of those gizmos that measures whatever the hell it measures... but it didn't look like they'd just let you walk away when they were done.
dave™©


E-meters, I think.

All religions are equally insane, it seems to me. Scientology just has this "scientific" veneer, to impress the credulous.


Gravatar"You don't even realize it, but retail layout is all based on studies of human behavior."

Even when they change all the aisles to confuse the old people?


Safeway pulled that shit a couple of years ago and now, I don't even remember what the hell it was that I can't find anymore!


GravatarBecause you cannot imagine it, clearly it is impossible.
NTodd, Wise Latina | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 9:59 pm | #

no, the parapsychologists make the same argument.


Gravatartake good care, gromit


Gravatarretail layout is all based on studies of human behavior.

I wonder how this connects to the fact that I completely despise walking around in modern stores and end up in the upstairs back corners of bookstores.


GravatarIf heroin were legal....and Christianity banned....

What a wonderful world!
And I say to myself
What a wonderful world...
dave™© | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 10:00 pm | #
--

If you ever had friends who were heroin addicts you would not say that.


GravatarI always wanted to get hooked up to one of those gizmos that measures whatever the hell it measures... but it didn't look like they'd just let you walk away when they were done.
dave™©




GravatarE-meters, I think.

Yeah, I think that's it.

This was back in the days when they'd send some cute little college girl at you with a big smile on her face.


GravatarThanks for all the good wishes, friends.

God, I feel like a sloppy drunk here.


GravatarWhat a wonderful world!
And I say to myself
What a wonderful world...
dave™©

Heh. I knew I could count on you to call me out on that one

Balls! said the Queen.


GravatarEven when they change all the aisles to confuse the old people?
Doug Watts


That's me, heh. They just changed the Superstore layout, now I can't find shit.

Websites, also. I'm tired of all these re-designs. I like the comfortably familiar.

This week, we've done a huge redesign of my paper, the dead tree version. It gives me some flexibility I didn't have before, so I appreciate that. But generally, I don't like change just for change's sake.


GravatarI wonder how this connects to the fact that I completely despise walking around in modern stores and end up in the upstairs back corners of bookstores.
Gromit


A faulty navigation system?


Gravatarno, the parapsychologists make the same argument.

No they don't.

But keep trying harder. The psychological principles you are exhibiting are well-documented.


GravatarUmmmmmmmmmmm... PHFFFFFFFFFFT!!!
dave™©


...and the proof for this proposition will be left to the students as an exercise...

.


Gravatarand end up in the upstairs back corners of bookstores.
Gromit


As far as possible from the latest Ann Coulter piece of fish wrap.


GravatarAre they meeting obligations?
Taking care of their health?
Doing their jobs?
Paying their bills?

and how do you determine that? afaik, there hasnt been a study that shows that say, people that use rational emotive therapy as opposed to freudian therapy are doing better, other than, again, statement about their lives, such as you could probably find many religious people making.


GravatarThe anonymous suggestion that ivory-billed woodpeckers had been the undoing of JR was mine. I may be the only one who remembers that particular episode.


GravatarYou don't even realize it, but retail layout is all based on studies of human behavior.

then why isn't the fucking beer aisle in the parking lot?


GravatarEven when they change all the aisles to confuse the old people?

Walmart does that as a cost-saving measure. The Greeters get lost, can't find the exits, so end up working longer but don't get paid for anything beyond their contracted hours.


GravatarIf you ever had friends who were heroin addicts you would not say that.

I had a friend, back in California, who died from a heroin OD. And, just last week I walked through Vancouver's east side, and seeing dozens of people all at once strung out on H was dispiriting.

But, there's still something appealing about it. It seems like an interesting drug.


GravatarNTodd, Wise Latina | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 10:04 pm | #
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America was built by foolish white people, dagburnit. Would wise latinas have fought on after the Germans bombed pearl harbor? No way.
/Proud American.


GravatarThis guy does a lovely job on
This Child is Born
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=B...feature=related


GravatarIf you ever had friends who were heroin addicts you would not say that.

Well, I was thinking more about the lack of christianity part...

Though I AM esp. happy with the Episcopalians today!


Gravatarno, the parapsychologists make the same argument.

No they don't.


yes they do. they argue that they are testing real phenomena, and that just because the tests may not show anything doesn't mean ghosts aren't there. it's always the fault of the measurement.


GravatarWalmart does that as a cost-saving measure. The Greeters get lost, can't find the exits, so end up working longer but don't get paid for anything beyond their contracted hours.
NTodd, Wise Latina



Gravatarone of those gizmos that measures whatever the hell it measures

it measures the indisputable scientific fact that you must give them your money

.


Gravatar"Pretzel Logic" was the first Steely Dan album I ever heard, and it changed my life. "pretzel" not so much.


Gravatarthere's still something appealing about it. It seems like an interesting drug.

One of the few drugs I've never had any real interest in trying.

Pot's about as lackadaisical as I want to get...


Gravataryes they do. they argue that they are testing real phenomena, and that just because the tests may not show anything doesn't mean ghosts aren't there. it's always the fault of the measurement.

And that's not the same argument made by psychologists.


GravatarSweet dreams, Moonbats.

Remember the rules of dreams.

When you see your hands, remember that you're dreaming.

Things sparkle for a reason.

Music playing in the background may be there to distract you.

Always, always, always be polite to the dirty old woman.


GravatarNaw. Not gunna do it.

Just stayin' home. Goin' to bed, soon.


Gravatarnote, the studies ive read dont actually say that the people followed up on are actually living their lives more effectively, just that they report they are. and, again, all the different forms of psychotherapy had roughly similar rates of reported success.


GravatarBut, there's still something appealing about it. It seems like an interesting drug.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 10:05 pm | #


Inspired a lot of bad songs. I've seen the needle and the damage done, because a mainer to my vein, etc.


GravatarJeffCo will be happy to know that NPR is quite concerned about the Episcopalian's stance on gays.


GravatarThings sparkle for a reason.

Usually means I've pee'd on the floor.


GravatarAlways, always, always be polite to the dirty old woman.

Oh yea.


Gravatar focus: then why isn't the fucking beer aisle in the parking lot?

My hometown (and many near it) had drive-thru beer.


GravatarHeroin is the best. That's why I tried it twice and never touched it again. Way too good.


Gravatar"then why isn't the fucking beer aisle in the parking lot?"


Ever been to Ohio?


Gravatarthey assert their patient are in fact more likely to lead effective lives as a result of their therapy. primal scream psychologists. rational emotive psychologists. freudian psychologists. christian psychologists. where is the evidence?


GravatarGood Night kids.
Best wishes to the NTodd family.
Peace.


GravatarMy hometown (and many near it) had drive-thru beer.

Joka's in Waterville, ME. They also delivered.


Gravatarnote, the studies ive read dont actually say that the people followed up on are actually living their lives more effectively, just that they report they are.

How do you live "more effectively"?


GravatarHuzzah for the Episcopalians! Will the Presbyterians be next?


GravatarActually, I talked to someone from Coke a year or so back who informed me that it's standard layout procedure for stores to stock soft drinks in immediate proximity to "salty snacks" (which, apparently, is a technical term).


Gravatarthe venerable NM institution of the drive through liquor mart - "So you can stay drunk and keep driving" - was semi-abolished only a few years back.


GravatarMy hometown (and many near it) had drive-thru beer. - Jeffraham, public option

do you live in heaven?


Gravatarall the different forms of psychotherapy had roughly similar rates of reported success.
pretzel |


Evolutionary psychology allows for the inclusion of all types of psychotherapy - it depends on what level the person is having issues as to which form of therapy will be effective.


Gravatarthey assert their patient are in fact more likely to lead effective lives as a result of their therapy.

It's interesting that you conflate so many things, ignoring peer reviewed science that is published quite often and even something you could find online if you weren't trapped by confirmation bias.

EOT.


GravatarMy hometown (and many near it) had drive-thru beer.

I love the scene in "Double Indemnity" where Fred MacMurray pulls into a drive-in and the carhop brings him a tall frosty one...


GravatarSo now airplanes are just popping holes.


GravatarNTodd: Joka's in Waterville, ME. They also delivered.

I think I will start offering to deliver liquor/beer (prepaid) in town, for 100% markup.


GravatarBut, there's still something appealing about it. It seems like an interesting drug

smoked it one time, very little amount, and that was enough.

way way way too good

nothing mattered
everything was peaceful
that good don't exist


Gravatarend up in the upstairs back corners of bookstores.

Most of my (at-the-moment) meager "disposable income" is spent in bookstores and record stores. Book prices generally end with a "5." CDs are ALWAYS a "9." I'm so confused!


Gravatari tried heroin once, and it did not appeal to me at all, thank god

didn't like the experience of being unable to have even a single thought

.


GravatarHow do you live "more effectively"?
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 10:10 pm | #

exactly. it's a very subjective judgement.


Gravatarknew too many junkies to want to try it. people who were very smart and tough and hopelessly caught.


GravatarThere's a chain-- or at least there was-- of "brew throughs" on the Outer Banks. You pull right in, they load up your trunk, you drive through.


GravatarBecause you cannot imagine it, clearly it is impossible.



i have been reading david smolin's latest paper on child laundering tonight. he repeatedly makes the point that failure of what he calls moral imagination leaves the door open for abuses like child laundering.



http://works.bepress.com/david_smolin/4/


Gravatar love the scene in "Double Indemnity" where Fred MacMurray pulls into a drive-in and the carhop brings him a tall frosty one...
dave™© |


You mean Walter Neff!


Gravataragain, where are the actual followup studies that are based on something more than self reports?


GravatarThe whole "tri-state" area around Ashland, KY, had drive-thru beer... and KY had drive-thru liquor, even.


GravatarIn Calif. they sell beer at gas stations. But you actually have to go into the store to get it.


Gravatarand asking a question doesn't imply that i couldn't imagine an answer.


GravatarShamrock Liquors, which was hit by the Duct-Tape Bandit?

It has a drive-thru.


Gravataran outrage!

Our Glorious Emperor And Supreme Leader Hussein Jiveass-Narcissus Mugabe-Carter is booed at the All-Star game, then He throws girlie bounce-ball to catcher!

teh horror!


Gravatardidn't like the experience of being unable to have even a single thought

.
tacitus voldebaer

so sarah palin is on heroin?


GravatarThe whole "tri-state" area around Ashland, KY, had drive-thru beer... and KY had drive-thru liquor, even.

Jeffraham, public option | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 10:14 pm | #


I wonder if you now have the legal right to bring your gun to the drive-thru liquor store.


Gravatar Deacon Blues: In Calif. they sell beer at gas stations. But you actually have to go into the store to get it.

Same here in TN.

But you have to go to a liquor store to get wine.


GravatarThe whole "tri-state" area around Ashland, KY, had drive-thru beer... and KY had drive-thru liquor, even.

Jeffraham, public option


I swear, you folks in the south are light years ahead of the rest of us ...


Gravatardidn't like the experience of being unable to have even a single thought

You didn't like true enlightenment?


GravatarSpeculation that Ann Coulter has Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome... interesting.



Gravatarknew too many junkies to want to try it. people who were very smart and tough and hopelessly caught.
rootless-e, appikouros


william burroughs says somewhere "junk is the biggest fascist"

.


GravatarBut, there's still something appealing about it. It seems like an interesting drug.

Maybe academically, but the reality is that it's a beast that has to be fed daily.

I've known a few junkies in my many years in the record bidness. And they ALL believed that they would be the one user who wouldn't develop a dependency. Sad and scary shit...


GravatarI esp. like this from that NPR concern-fest:

The vote raises the question: What has changed in the past three years to bring about the reversal? The conservative wing of the Episcopal Church walked out last month and is creating its own rival church, leaving liberals in the vast majority.

"Walked out"? No.

National leaders of the Episcopal Church have ousted 61 clergy who aligned with a former bishop in California when he broke with the national church in a dispute over the Bible and homosexuality.

Former Bishop John-David Schofield led the Diocese of San Joaquin to become the first full diocese to secede from the U.S. denomination in 2007. Four years earlier, Episcopalians consecrated their first openly gay bishop, setting off a wide-ranging debate within the church and upsetting conservative congregations.

Schofield ultimately was removed as head of the diocese and barred from performing any religious rites. He maintains he is an Anglican bishop under the worldwide church.

Episcopal leaders said Wednesday they were deposing all clergy who severed their ties and joined Schofield in affiliating with an Anglican archdiocese in Argentina.

Jerry Lamb, the new Episcopal Bishop of San Joaquin, called the decision to oust the clergy "heartbreaking."

"But, the fact is, they chose to abandon their relationship with the Episcopal Church," he said.


GravatarI find I think very well on pot.

Writing--now that's another story.


GravatarIV drug abuse has a host of infectious complications which are far from trivial, to addict and to community. Not just HIV. Doing an infected heart valve repair in a septic patient is one of life's special joys.

And, like a friend of mine and a cousin of mine, you can die from it.


GravatarUsually means I've pee'd on the floor.


I love you.


GravatarI like that grocery stores here sell liquor too. I can get Bombay Sapphire and frosted strawberry Pop Tarts in one stop!


GravatarSpeculation that Ann Coulter has Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome... interesting.

An Electron |


Why can't we get along?


GravatarYou mean Walter Neff!

Didn't I see you on CNN?


GravatarYou didn't like true enlightenment?
Deacon Blues


it was more like unlightenment

.


GravatarI like that grocery stores here sell liquor too.

I find it hard to imagine living in a place where they don't.


GravatarSo now airplanes are just popping holes.
Moe Szyslak


We flew from Gatwick to Charlotte yesterday in an A330 (like the AF flight that went down) that had a ten foot trip of peeling duct tape on the main flap.

Way to give your customers confidence, USAir.


GravatarYou don't even realize it, but retail layout is all based on studies of human behavior.

So is all of marketing.
NTodd, Wise Latina


The marketing of politicians is based on studies of Simian behavior. Though, granted there's not a lot of difference. Momkey see, monkey buy...


GravatarI love you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I love you too, Vicki.

Now pass the mop.


GravatarI find it hard to imagine living in a place where they don't.
dave™©

Colorado didn't. You had to go to a special store to buy (non 3.2) alcoholic beverages. And those stores weren't open on Sunday!!!


GravatarWe flew from Gatwick to Charlotte yesterday in an A330 (like the AF flight that went down) that had a ten foot trip of peeling duct tape on the main flap.

You should have notified the flight crew.
.


GravatarOur liquor stores are private, but can't sell on Sundays. So if you need whiskey or wine, Saturday's the time.


GravatarAIS is seriously wild.

Kind of fascinated by it.



GravatarGov, Huntsman liberalized Utah's beer sales but had to run off and hide in China until things cool down.


GravatarI like that grocery stores here sell liquor too.

I find it hard to imagine living in a place where they don't.
dave™©


Still a "hundred miles of dry" in parts of Texas. Liberty Cty, where I live, was until just a few years ago. Grocery stores had to get rid of a lot of food to make room...


GravatarGov, Huntsman liberalized Utah's beer sales but had to run off and hide in China until things cool down.
smarty jones | 07.14.09 - 10:22 pm

It's not 3.2 in Utah any more?


GravatarNova Scotia just did away with its Sunday closing law two years ago. That was for all grocery stores, department stores, etc. The provincially owned liquor stores began opening on Sundays a couple of weeks later.

This was the first year you could order a drink in a bar, without a meal, on Good Friday.


GravatarSpeaking of pregnant women and Palestine...


GravatarI've known a few junkies in my many years in the record bidness. And they ALL believed that they would be the one user who wouldn't develop a dependency. Sad and scary shit...
bill buckner



Frankie Machine : You mean just stop? Cold turkey? You don't understand! The pain...

Louie (pusher): The monkey is never dead, Frankie Machine. The monkey never dies. When you kick him off, he just hides in a corner, waiting his turn...
.


GravatarSo now airplanes are just popping holes.
Moe Szyslak


It's a feature. More leg room.


GravatarAw, hell. Gotta ride.
bbl


GravatarIt's not 3.2 in Utah any more?
Wittgy

I think alcohol content law is the same, but you don't need to be a "member" or "sponsored" to go to drinking establishments.


Gravatar-snf-

Something smells......Fishy..


GravatarColorado didn't. You had to go to a special store to buy (non 3.2) alcoholic beverages.

Washington's like that. Not sure if they're open on Sundays, though...


GravatarYou should have notified the flight crew.
.
Agent Orange


I did, but didn't spot it until landing. It was on the main flap of the right wing and was invisible when the flaps were retracted in flight.


GravatarIt's a feature. More leg room.
macacawitz |


It the case last night it was head room.
.


Gravatar"Global warming" is the ultimate hoax, algore thinks he's the new Messiah but he's just a fat loser


GravatarOur liquor stores are private, but can't sell on Sundays. So if you need whiskey or wine, Saturday's the time. - Jeffraham, public option

but i want drunk now!


Gravatar"Walked out"?

Yup. That's what they did. Walked away from TEC, tried to take church property with 'em, and tried to declare themselves "affiliated" with another church in the communion, in violation of the covenant of the Anglican Communion.

Bye bye!


Gravatarwhen I moved to CA from MA, I wondered with awe that I could buy beer and bourbon on sundays at the grocery store with a credit card.

all things, you COULD NOT do in MA or RI


GravatarAlso.


Gravatar"Global warming" is the ultimate hoax, algore thinks he's the new Messiah but he's just a fat loser

Rush is much much fatter.


GravatarI call shenanigans. There were new sheets. Twas a John post - it appeared to be a misfire, but I posted comments and now the whole thing has disappeared down the memory hole.


GravatarOh, great, here's a video of a plane crashing into a car.


GravatarI think alcohol content law is the same, but you don't need to be a "member" or "sponsored" to go to drinking establishments.
smarty jones | 07.14.09 - 10:26 pm


Oh yeah, they were already liberalizing that nonsense when they had the Olympics. They used to have guest memberships for out of town skiers, all sorts of ridiculous rules. And the rule that they couldn't mix a drink in public, where a child might get the wrong idea about this liquor stuff.


GravatarJesus emits carbon

I hope you live on the coast.


GravatarSometimes little holes on 737s become bigger holes.

http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu...CH353/ Aloha.JPG
.


Gravatarwho teh f is john?
a facebook heart-throb?


GravatarJohn?

"Who is that guy!?!?!!"


GravatarWalked away from TEC, tried to take church property with 'em...

What a bunch of sleazy motherfuckers.

My mother absolutely HATED that Schoenfeld prick. He was the bishop of our diocese and she hated him with a white-hot fury.

This one's for Mom, asshole! Take a fucking hike!!!


Gravatarjohn is drinking. you cant knock of DL at 10pm, can you?


GravatarThere were new sheets. Twas a John post - it appeared to be a misfire, but I posted comments and now the whole thing has disappeared down the memory hole.

brian but not that brian


See what happens when you give the keys to amateurs?


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I find it hard to imagine living in a place where they don't.


MA has really silly and draconian liquor laws - technically, my little 'burb is dry, but you can now buy WINE, and wine only. No alcohol of any kind at supermarkets/convenience stores - liquor stores only. A chain can't be granted more than 3 licences - I can buy wine at Trader Joe's in Cambridge, but not in Arlington or Burlington. And Sunday sales are a recent development. Don't drink much anymore - it's too much work!


GravatarColorado didn't. You had to go to a special store to buy (non 3.2) alcoholic beverages. And those stores weren't open on Sunday!!!
Deacon Blues

years ago in Missouri, the only thing you could buy on Sundays was 3.2 beer, and it had to be sold in a separate building.


Gravatar"Global warming" is the ultimate hoax, algore thinks he's the new Messiah but he's just a fat loser

this new troll has a special talent for condensing a large amount of stupid into very few words

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GravatarJohn?

"Who is that guy!?!?!!"


Didn't the guy who did "Deadwood" come up with a show about him?


Gravatar
Way to give your customers confidence, USAir.


Are you SURE that it wasn't a gremlin?


GravatarIs Obama Continuing the Bush/Cheney Assassination Program?
Congress is outraged that Cheney concealed a CIA program to assassinate al Qaeda leaders, but they should also be investigating why Obama is continuing—and expanding—U.S. assassinations.

By Jeremy Scahill

July 14, 2009 "RebelReports" -- In June, CIA Director Leon Panetta allegedly informed members of the House Intelligence Committee of the existence of a secret Bush era program implemented in the days after 9-11 that, until last month, had been hidden from lawmakers. The concealment of the plan, Panetta alleged, happened at the orders of then-Vice President Dick Cheney.

Now, The New York Times is reporting that this secret program that had "been hidden from lawmakers" by Cheney was a plan "to dispatch small teams overseas to kill senior Qaeda terrorists." The Wall Street Journal, which originally reported on the plan, reported that the paramilitary teams were to implement a "2001 presidential legal pronouncement, known as a finding, which authorized the CIA to pursue such efforts."

The plan, the Times says, never was carried out because "Officials at the spy agency over the years ran into myriad logistical, legal and diplomatic obstacles." Instead, the Bush administration "sought an alternative to killing terror suspects with missiles fired from drone aircraft or seizing them overseas and imprisoning them in secret C.I.A. jails."

The House Intelligence Committee is now reportedly preparing an investigation into this program and the Senate may follow suit. "We were kept in the dark. That's something that should never, ever happen again," said Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein. Withholding this information from Congress "is a big problem, because the law is very clear."
There are several important issues raised by this unfolding story. First, while the Times claims the program was never implemented, the program sounds very similar to what Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Sy Hersh described in March as an "executive assassination ring" run by Dick Cheney that operated throughout the Bush years:

"Congress has no oversight of it. It's an executive assassination ring essentially, and it's been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.
"Under President Bush's authority, they've been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That's been going on, in the name of all of us.

Hersh's description sounds remarkably similar to that offered by the Times and the Wall Street Journal.

http:// informationclearinghouse....rticle23054.htm


Gravatar"Who the fuck is John?"

'Atrios Shrugged'?

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Gravatarwe'll see if the "Episcopal Church" can avoid projecting the aura of, say, Peoples' Temple


GravatarCan someone check for me which uses more electricity - algore's house or Rwanda?


GravatarNo carbon emissions at the Killfile Cafe.


GravatarWay to give your customers confidence, USAir.

Or as many of us refer to them:

US(SC)Air.


Gravatarthis new troll has a special talent for condensing a large amount of stupid into very few words

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tacitus voldebaer

Concision is the soul of twit.


GravatarIt was titled "Sarah Palin." It had no substance, however. Tres apropos. It's like her post just up and qu . . . oh wait, perhaps kudos are more in order than shenanigans?


GravatarAl Gore is a living creature?

The horror.


GravatarCan someone check for me which uses more electricity - algore's house or Rwanda?
Jesus emits carbon

Your mother.


GravatarAre you SURE that it wasn't a gremlin?
bill buckner |


"Jim, Jim, get a hold of yourself Jim!"
No wait, that was a couple of years later. Never mind.
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GravatarIt was titled "Sarah Palin." It had no substance

Yes, that's been running for, what, about a year now.


Gravatarhowzit goin' NTodd?


GravatarIt's too bad that John thread disappeared, because I had just posted my scientific method for measuring the efficacy of psychotherapy, and now it will be lost forever.


GravatarIt was titled "Sarah Palin." It had no substance, however. Tres apropos. It's like her post just up and qu . . . oh wait, perhaps kudos are more in order than shenanigans?
brian but not that brian


Someone's getting way too meta.

Oh, and I hate this whole fucking "God Bless America" shit that they've added to the 7th inning stretch. They sing the National Anthem at the start of the game. Enuf already!


GravatarDid 'Merca sneeze


GravatarCan someone check for me which uses more electricity - algore's house or Rwanda?
Jesus emits carbon

Your mother.
Duane V, pissed


Your mother's vibrator.

Fixed your typo.


GravatarThe all star game on Fox has the 7th inning stretch performance of God Bless America.


GravatarAlbert Gore, Jr., Galactic Gaian Savior!


GravatarAre you SURE that it wasn't a gremlin?
bill buckner


Maybe. I couldn't get outside to inspect for unpainted Bondo.


GravatarJingoism sux.


GravatarWay to give your customers confidence, USAir.

Or as many of us refer to them:

US(SC)Air.


I've always called them Useless Scareways.


GravatarIt's too bad that John thread disappeared, because I had just posted my scientific method for measuring the efficacy of psychotherapy, and now it will be lost forever.
Wittgy



GravatarAlbert Gore, Jr., Galactic Gaian Savior!
Lubyanka

You finally got it right.


GravatarI'm rapidly developing old man balls.

And it frightens me.



GravatarAlbert Gore, Jr., proud owner of the 100 ft houseboat "Nashville Lardass"!


Gravatarditch both of 'em and go with America the Beautiful... although This Land is your land would be better...


GravatarI really get a kick out of them playing the US national anthem at hockey games, where all the players are Canadian. They kind of bounce around on their skates, trying to look respectful.


GravatarI'm rapidly developing old man balls.

John Roberts is good at counting balls.


GravatarYour mother's vibrator.

Fixed your typo.
macacawitz | 07.14.09 - 10:35 pm |


Good one, you made that troll's mother a skanky dyke


GravatarThe all star game on Fox has the 7th inning stretch performance of God Bless America.
jewel |


Terrorists world wide shrink in horror at American baseball 7th inning stretch performances of God Bless America.
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GravatarWhen I own a baseball team, we're opening games with the theme from Hawaii Five-O, and singing This Land is Your Land in the seventh. With all the verses.

After wins, we'll play Kodachrome. American Tune after losses.


GravatarFunny ending to article about Utah:

For years, Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. has worked to bring Utah into the mainstream, including efforts to modernize the state's liquor laws.

But his continued push this year has the wildly popular governor going head-to-head with lawmakers who feel he's going too far in a state that prides itself on the lowest percentage of alcohol-related accidents in the country.

Huntsman and the state's $6 billion-a-year tourism industry want to eliminate requirements that customers pay a fee and fill out an application to enter a bar, according to The Associated Press. Utah is the only state in the country with such a law.

While some lawmakers have expressed interest in at least examining such an option, others are proposing even stricter rules.

New Senate President Michael Waddoups, for example, wants alcohol at restaurants hidden away so that children can't see it. The Taylorsville Republican says that even seeing the bottles can entice children to want to drink.


GravatarI prefer, "Take me out to the ball game!"
It's supposed to be a fun time.
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GravatarSpeaking of "John" ... who's "sardine"?

Guy takes a week off of making inane comments of a shitty blog and all kinds of new nyms show up.


GravatarAlbert Gore, Jr., proud owner of the 100 ft houseboat "Nashville Lardass"!
Lubyanka

Yo, Yo, you should know where I'm comin' from,

but you're just dumb, diddy dumb, diddy - diddy, dumb - dumb


GravatarWhen I own a baseball team, we're opening games with the theme from Hawaii Five-O, and singing This Land is Your Land in the seventh. With all the verses.



May I humbly suggest replacing Hawaii 5-0 with the Rockford Files theme?



GravatarAgent O: well, yeah. But if there has to be a 'national' anthem...


GravatarWhen I own a baseball team, we're opening games with the theme from Hawaii Five-O, and singing This Land is Your Land in the seventh. With all the verses.

After wins, we'll play Kodachrome. American Tune after losses.
Gromit |


Sounds like a lot of minor league baseball games these days where the owners remember it's all supposed to be fun!
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GravatarWho the fuck is John

One of A-Man's fellow urban hellholians. A drinking buddy, I think...


GravatarWhen I own a baseball team, we're opening games with the theme from Hawaii Five-O, and singing This Land is Your Land in the seventh. With all the verses.

After wins, we'll play Kodachrome. American Tune after losses.
Gromit

Please put me on the waiting list for season tickets.


GravatarHow 'bout Jimi Hendrix Star Spangeld Banner?


GravatarI think they should play InAGaddaDaVida at the 7th inning stretch.


GravatarNew Senate President Michael Waddoups, for example, wants alcohol at restaurants hidden away so that children can't see it. The Taylorsville Republican says that even seeing the bottles can entice children to want to drink.
smarty jones | 07.14.09 - 10:39 pm

This is great. People often assume I'm exaggerating when I tell them about things like this. Utah is a truly America's wonderland.


Gravatarditch both of 'em and go with America the Beautiful... although This Land is your land would be better...
nick carraway

As long as they leave in the verse verboten.


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Oh, and I hate this whole fucking "God Bless America" shit that they've added to the 7th inning stretch...


Do it the way we do at The Fens: Stand up and bellow the line "White with foam!" ONLY, then quickly sit bacl down, giggling...


GravatarI think they should play InAGaddaDaVida at the 7th inning stretch.
macacawitz


No. Baby Got Back.


GravatarAgent O: well, yeah. But if there has to be a 'national' anthem...
nick carraway |


If Cracker Jack had existed during the War of 1812, Francis Scott Key would have worked it into the lyrics.
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GravatarDuane: but of course.


GravatarI thought the 7th Inning God Bless America was a post-9/11 fad that would peter out.


GravatarBaby Got Back.

Can't argue with that.


GravatarI prefer, "Take me out to the ball game!"
It's supposed to be a fun time.
.
Agent Orange


Yup. I like tradition there.


GravatarWittgy,
you currently live in Utah? I used to, damn beautiful place, but kinda odd.


GravatarWhen Shrub would throw out the first ball, I always hoped they'd play "American Idiot".


GravatarProfWombat, if you're still here, Maddy's great.  All of us had so much fun seeing her. 

Mlle is flying to NY tomorrow.  She's been trying to break up with the current SO for the past two weeks and he's not buying it.  She's also pissed--she said she'd come out for the weekend but wanted the rest of the week to look for work.  (She didn't get the job she hoped for.)  His parents said they'd pay for her to come out, their rationale being that she's been the only person who ever had a positive influence on him.  She and I are both pissed off that she was strong armed into making a five day trip when she wanted the rest of the week to look for work and the weekend to see Maddy and visit friends.

I told her that if she didn't want to go tomorrow, she doesn't have to.  And if she wants to come home sooner, we instructed her to go standby. 

If that fails, she has two uncles who live less than 100 miles away and a grandfather less than 75.


Gravataryou currently live in Utah? I used to, damn beautiful place, but kinda odd.
smarty jones | 07.14.09 - 10:43 pm

I lived there from 1970-77, but since I have a (ahem!) large number of relatives there, I have returned many times over the years.


GravatarI thought the 7th Inning God Bless America was a post-9/11 fad that would peter out.

You probably also thought the wingers would stop calling for destroying Japan 68 years after Pearl Harbor.


GravatarI thought the 7th Inning God Bless America was a post-9/11 fad that would peter out.
Wittgy |


They can skip the military jet flyovers too. What's the friggin' point?
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GravatarTell me again how life in Gaza is is so much different from say, I don't know, the Warsaw Ghetto??


Gravatarsince I have a (ahem!) large number of relatives there, I have returned many times over the years.

You shouldn't have married so many people.


Gravatarmacacawitz, don't know if baby got back, but we've got baby back ribs barbecuing.  Does that count?


Gravatarballgame Sunday night: home team down by one in the bottom of the 11th, put a runner on 2nd w/ one out... who promptly got thrown out trying to score on a bloop single. the home team then managed to load the bases, and be damned if the batter hit a grand slam to end the game. Like a fricken storybook.

Weird game, 5 hit batsmen, 5 errors and a balk. I don't know if it's more likely to see a triple play or a no-hitter next time...


GravatarThey can skip the military jet flyovers too. What's the friggin' point?

They can use smart bombs to kill any terrorists who plan to blow up the park.


GravatarThey can skip the military jet flyovers too. What's the friggin' point?
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Agent Orange


Justify the defense budget?


Gravatar(puts out a plate of oatcakes for Smarty Jones and the colt)


Gravatarntodd, i look and look but see no tuesday night animal blogging.


GravatarThey can use smart bombs to kill any terrorists who plan to blow up the park.
NTodd, Wise Latina

or nunchucks


Gravatar"They are coming across as a bunch of snarky and bitter old white men who cannot bear the thought of their kind losing power."


They just thought it was a mega meteor strike that took out the Dinosaurs.


GravatarI prefer, "Take me out to the ball game!"
It's supposed to be a fun time.
.
Agent Orange

Yup. I like tradition there.
Deacon Blues

with Harry Carie


GravatarYou shouldn't have married so many people.
NTodd, Wise Latina | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 10:45 pm

That's actually true, but it was for different reasons. Here's a fun fact: my grandmother had 100 first cousins, thanks to the Angel Moroni et co.


Gravatar
After wins, we'll play Kodachrome. American Tune after losses.


Oooh, good call! "Dirty Water" MUST go! (Standells were an LA band, fuck them...) In place of that and the seriously overplayed "Tessie" I propose songs by artists w. local roots - "The Fenway" by Jonathan Richman, say... Or John Lincoln Wright's "Ballad of Oil Can Boyd."


Gravatar(puts out a plate of oatcakes for Smarty Jones and the colt)
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

mmmm, tasty!


Gravatar{{{{srcfo}}}}


GravatarSally: damn, about three things went through the haloscan window and got backspaced out. Hope that trip works out okay. I'll leave it at that.


GravatarThey can skip the military jet flyovers too. What's the friggin' point?

Looks "cool" and the pilots can score some flying type.

Personally it's a big ass waste of money.


Gravatarntodd, i look and look but see no tuesday night animal blogging.

I'm working on it. Kayla was being cute just now, but then saw the camera.


GravatarSpeaking of baseball traditions (I mentioned this earlier)
Ted Williams' head still in liquid nitrogen!
.


GravatarOkay, so who wants to hire me?


Gravataryou currently live in Utah? I used to, damn beautiful place, but kinda odd.
smarty jones | 07.14.09 - 10:43 pm

When did you live there, what part of the state?


GravatarEvening, all


GravatarSpeaking of baseball traditions (I mentioned this earlier)
Ted Williams' head still in liquid nitrogen!
.
Agent Orange

And G.W. Bush's head is still up his arse.


Gravatarntodd, i look and look but see no tuesday night animal blogging.
srcfo




I love you.

Between Erin, Hecate, and I, we will see you are cared for.


GravatarKayla was being cute just now, but then saw the camera.

no neener neener?

andyg thank you.


GravatarOkay, so who wants to hire me?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


The CIA in Washington DC. They're always hiring. Check their website.
Layoff proof for life!
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GravatarTed Williams' head still in liquid nitrogen!

They're going to throw it out for the first pitch next ASG.


GravatarVicki, ah fuck. 

You'd be a natural at being an administrator for med school students.  You're outgoing, detail oriented, hard working and have an open mind and an amazing sense of humor. 


GravatarWittgy,

SLC and Sandy in the early and mid 90s.


Gravatarmacacawitz, don't know if baby got back, but we've got baby back ribs barbecuing. Does that count?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Yummy.


Gravatarno neener neener?

Didn't use that, but I did just get a few shots. Working on some others, as most animals have been outside for a while, including Nugget.


GravatarWe're not having a summer.


GravatarOkay, so who wants to hire me?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Do you have any special skills?


GravatarVicki,

You checked with MSU? they must be thinking about hiring people for their expansion in GR. (And PR and Marketing are certainly part of this)


GravatarReminds me. Finally got a decent shot of our dog.

http://thumbsnap.com/v/FnRDUWBM.jpg


GravatarDo you have any special skills?
macacawitz


What is required?

Interview me, you may be pleasantly surprised.


GravatarWe're not having a summer.

It's all because you hate flying.


GravatarDo it the way we do at The Fens: Stand up and bellow the line "White with foam!" ONLY, then quickly sit bacl down, giggling...
bill buckner

I got to get to Boston one of these days!!!


GravatarSLC and Sandy in the early and mid 90s.
smarty jones | 07.14.09 - 10:51 pm

I was in suburban SLC as a kid. My family came from all sorts of absurd places like Spanish Fork and American Fork, Price, and Heber. Old time inbreeding centers.


GravatarOkay, so who wants to hire me?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Uh-oh. Bad news?


Gravatargromit, i don't think your link worked.


GravatarSeriously, they just gave the weather forecast for the next week--- the warmest it gets is 21 Commie degrees, which, if I did the math right, is about minus 5 in Freedom degrees.


Gravatardid I see srcfo??


Gravatar
Uh-oh. Bad news?
Upsidasium


Not quite yet, but the words were, in the meeting today, "Will we still have jobs?"

And the CEO said, "I. Don't. Know."

The planning is shitty. They're not worthy.


GravatarSeriously, they just gave the weather forecast for the next week--- the warmest it gets is 21 Commie degrees, which, if I did the math right, is about minus 5 in Freedom degrees.

70 Freedom degrees.


GravatarWhat is required?

In my case, the ability to raise the dead.


GravatarFor like three days last week, the warmest place in Canada was Whitehorse, Yukon.


Gravatargromit, i don't think your link worked.
srcfo |

I got it just fine. Looks like an alert little fellow (or gal).
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GravatarDog photo link, take 2.

http://thumbsnap.com/v/FnRDUWBM.jpg


GravatarAfter wins, we'll play Kodachrome. American Tune after losses.
At Dodger Stadium they play "I Love L.A." (Randy Newman version) after wins.


GravatarGromit --- nice dog photo.


GravatarIn my case, the ability to raise the dead.

I can do that with my magic lips. Trust me.


Gravataroh does fletcher allen must block that too. i didnt really read the internet agreement...


hiya, blodge


GravatarThey just thought it was a mega meteor strike that took out the Dinosaurs.

EkCenTriK

People like Sessions make an excellent case for never allowing another old white guy into Congress.


Gravatarsrcfo, maybe fahc has the site blocked, so as not to overstimulate patients. I'm sure it's in the 78 page document you have to scroll through to get on their wifi network.


Gravatar
So what was I to do, as a surgeon trying to practice scientifically? I wound up doing the standard operation, and she did fine. But I didn't have the data to know I was doing the right thing.
ProfWombat


prof,
how did you explain the options to the patient?


GravatarI can do that with my magic lips. Trust me.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

No flirting! You know the rules!!


GravatarI can do that with my magic lips. Trust me.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I wrote that song a long time ago!


Gravatarsrcfo

hugs and hugs

and thoughts

good ones


GravatarDWD,

I'll be looking all over the place.

The one thing is, I love my house. I just got it fixed up to the point where it is beautiful (to me). I'd hate to have to sell it, or worse, lose it. But it's just a dwelling, I guess.

One man's treasure is another man's junk. One man's house is another man's home. Like that.


GravatarGromit: You are going to have a sore forehead tomorrow but you are going to being feeling a lot better in a few more days. Glad to hear it went well and you're home.


Wombat: You devil---I didn''t realize you were a surgeon....I knew you were a "doc" but I thought you were a shrink---are you a general surgeon or something more specific?


GravatarAs Chris Rock said, Bush may have made it impossible for a white man to be elected president.

Sessions and these idiot Repigs are doing the same thing for Congress.


GravatarEvening, all.

Been gone for a while...irksomeness? Anything?


GravatarI'm just happy that FAHC has WiFI at all. Even if it's only 11meg.

Jeebus, really, who buys 802.11B routers when G is pretty much the same price these days? It's not like we want N.

Fortunately, they validate parking, which makes up for a lot.


GravatarI think Wombat is/was a breast surgeon.


GravatarGromit, glad it went well.  I had a headache the following day, but I didn't find it necessary to use narcotics.

YMMV.


GravatarMrs. Blues insists I dine with the fambly Blues. BBL.


GravatarI wrote that song a long time ago!

Mick Jagger

No, those are just gi - normous.


GravatarEvening, all.

Been gone for a while...irksomeness? Anything?
steve simels |


How'd it go, I heard Miss Rula Lenska had friends visiting from Europe?
.


GravatarThe planning is shitty. They're not worthy.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Been there, in my younger days, but the company with that problem was one of four freelance clients, after I got laid off when my previous employer had a midlife crisis and sold the company.

[meanders to point of post]

People who can write clearly will never be unemployed.


GravatarSpeaking of baseball traditions (I mentioned this earlier) Ted Williams' head still in liquid nitrogen!

I wonder if his executor is a Futurama fan.


GravatarVicki, I recall that the Esteemed Marsupial was a general surgeon.


Gravatari can overlook the blocking of the site, because lexi is kind enough to be making me a pb and j. and i'm quite hungry.

perhaps gromit could fb the ever so cute pic of his dog?


GravatarAt the rate the repukes are displaying the contempt for anyone who is not white, they are going to being looking for buttonholes for that so called tent of theirs because it is looking more like a leanto or a teepee---the disgust I have for these very sad, pathetic souls is beyond description.


GravatarOkay, so who wants to hire me?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Director of Stimulation?

https://www.gvsujobs.org/ applican...e=1247626514640


GravatarI recall that the Esteemed Marsupial was a general surgeon.


May very well be. He can operate on my boobies any time.


GravatarAnd the CEO said, "I. Don't. Know."


What, like he was surprised someone would actually ask??


Gravatarthat so called tent of theirs because it is looking more like a leanto or a teepee-

Circus tent.


GravatarGromit: alert dog there... looks to have some Blue Heeler maybe?


GravatarGeorge Will. Blecch...


GravatarDirector of Stimulation?

https://www.gvsujobs.org/ applican...e=1247626514640
1Watt, Hermit

.


Thanks for that.



GVSU is actually developing into a really good university


GravatarAnd the CEO said, "I. Don't. Know."

Liar!
.


GravatarSteve -

Didja see this?

http://www.latimes.com/ entertain...0,1170616.story


GravatarDo you think George Will likes jazz?


GravatarTuesday is almost over.

Tomorrow never knows.


Gravatarthe disgust I have for these very sad, pathetic souls is beyond description.
Sconset

My disgust for these idiots is eclipsed only by my contempt.


GravatarGood night all.

Sweet dreams.

May the Sandman bring you happy thoughts of Jayuff Sayshions with a blindfold and a cigarette.


GravatarWhat, like he was surprised someone would actually ask??
Duane V, pissed


Yep. Like the hospital totally has control over this mess.

He also said, "I know many of you came from the hospital, and you don't want to go back there."

No fucking kidding.

They run that place like a state penn.


GravatarDo you think George Will likes jazz?
bud

no.

He's a philistine, except for his love for baseball.


GravatarDo you think George Will likes jazz?
bud | 07.14.09 - 11:06 pm


Do you think George Will likes jizz?
Fixed you typo.
.


GravatarMay the Sandman bring you happy thoughts of Jayuff Sayshions with a blindfold and a cigarette.
macacawitz | 07.14.09 - 11:06 pm |

Sure, so long as the blindfold is stuffed into his mouth and the cigarette is in his eye.


GravatarWQXR EATED!

Any word from Phila?


Gravatardamn their crappy linking bollixed

Academic & Student Affairs
Department Vice Provost Admin
Unit Office of the Vice Provost for Health
Responsibilities The Director is the key administrator and educator, responsible for and involved in all instructional and operational aspects of the Simulation Center. The Director reports to the Vice Provost for Health. Develop and implement policies, procedures and practice standards consistent with Simulation Center mission, vision and values. Provide leadership and training to faculty in the use of simulation as a teaching tool. Recruit, hire and manage Simulation Center staff to assure effective maintenance and operation of programs. Provide ongoing review and evaluation of the simulation center.


GravatarOkay, I'm never going to get caught up with what everyone is saying here, so I'll start with this -

everyone!

They can skip the military jet flyovers too. What's the friggin' point?
.
Agent Orange


Here's some jets for ya . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h? v=YQkuqP3JbUo

I actually find this kind of cool


Gravatarperhaps gromit could fb the ever so cute pic of his dog?
srcfo


But of course! (done)


GravatarGeorge Will and Bud Selig chatting each other up is not an attractive image to broadcast.


GravatarHe's a philistine, except for his love for baseball.

He also correctly despises the DH.


GravatarTwo views of my "Puppy" Lexi.

(my lap dog)
http://smg.photobucket.com/ album...ent=DWDLEXI.jpg

Defender?
http://smg.photobucket.com/ album...urrent=Lexi.jpg

(I giggle every damned time I look at that picture. I guess you have to know her. She is shy and friendly to a fault - but not in this picture, eh?)


GravatarHe's a philistine, except for his love for baseball.
Duane V, pissed | 07.14.09 - 11:07 pm | #


Can we put George Will's head in liquid nitrogen?
.


Gravatarlater


GravatarMay the Sandman bring you happy thoughts of Jayuff Sayshions with a blindfold and a cigarette.

macacawitz

I'd much rather envision him as someone's girlfriend. For life.


Gravatari can overlook the blocking of the site, because lexi is kind enough to be making me a pb and j.

But it's after 715!


GravatarThis week, we have the tall ships festival and the pride parade.

Our cover is a pic of two gay guys wearing sailor uniforms in front of a tall ship.


GravatarI bet I have never told you how much I FUCKING HATE Haloscan't.


GravatarCan we put George Will's head in liquid nitrogen?

I don't think that will have any qualitative impact on his columns.


GravatarCan we put George Will's head in liquid nitrogen?
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Agent Orange

We CAN, but we MAY not...


GravatarI don't think that will have any qualitative impact on his columns.
NTodd, Wise Latina

I beg to differ. It could only improve them.


GravatarHi everyone.


GravatarProf. Wombat: I meant to say internist not general surgeon. It never dawned on me that you were a cutter.


Gravatarask and you shall receive: here i am.


Gravatargromit, that's a great pic! love her purple collar.


GravatarOur cover is a pic of two gay guys wearing sailor uniforms in front of a tall ship.
Moe Szyslak

Well Hell - oooooo, Sailor!


GravatarNTodd, were you able to educate everyone about psychology being a science?


GravatarWhat's to say Will's head *isn't* in liquid nitrogen already?

It would explain a lot...


Poor Ted, though, he was a real ass in a lot of ways, but he didn't deservet to end up like that... 'rest in pieces', indeed...


GravatarAfter MONTHS of listening to Dennis Eckersley prattle on senselessly, I find that I no longer hate Tim McCarver. Wow. (Let's go to extra innings, just so we can see Wakey. Are you with me, Gromit?)


Gravatarina!




GravatarWhite men can't judge!


GravatarOne of these two is The PRESIDENT

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com...- whbtsjuly5.jpg

phew!


GravatarBut it's after 715!

there's a little kitchen on this floor. i'm just not allowed in it.


Gravatar Hi everyone.

WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?


GravatarHe also correctly despises the DH.
NTodd, Wise Latina

Blind pig, meet nut.


GravatarHave a good evening all, I'm off to take a leisurely soak and then to bed..so I can watch Letterman. I need to laugh tonight because those hearing were anything but funny..


GravatarCan we put George Will's head in liquid nitrogen?

I don't think that will have any qualitative impact on his columns.
NTodd, Wise Latina |


It's gotta impact his view of global warming!
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GravatarBHO's Slipping Grip On The Public
A Commentary By Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/ ...p_on_the_public


Gravatar"This is my fifth day in office."


Gravatarhey, i guess Merkel likes Obama more than Bush!
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com...-july.php? img=6


GravatarA Commentary By Dick Morris




GravatarGOP's Slipping Grip On Reality
A Commentary by Reality


GravatarA Commentary By Dick Morris

Time to switch back to the other side, Dick. The bad guys can't afford to pay you any more.


GravatarWHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?
The Kenosha Kid


Well I guess any kind of acknowledgment is better than nothing. . . AND DON'T YELL AT ME. I'M SENSITIVE!


GravatarMcCain looks like he's trying to smuggle a donut in that jowl, and just got busted.


Gravatari have read the last 50 posts. there is no topic.


Gravatarthis pic is also very amazing: Franklin watching over Obama, Durbin, Frank and Dodd

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com...july.php? img=14


Gravatarask and you shall receive: here i am.
sebs | 07.14.09 - 11:11 pm | #


Oh joy.


Gravatar(waves to IL)


Gravatar Integral ♠ Lit: Well I guess any kind of acknowledgment is better than nothing. . . AND DON'T YELL AT ME. I'M SENSITIVE!

I waved at ina! What more could you possibly want from me?!


GravatarSOTOMAYER WAS CHOPPING BUT NO CHIPS WERE FLYING ALL DAY LONG. LESS THAN IMPRESSIVE


Gravatarbill buckner-- Completely forgot about the baseball game tonight, and am heading to bed momentarily. Glad Bucholtz is getting a start Friday; he's earned it.


GravatarMcCain looks like he's trying to smuggle a donut in that jowl, and just got busted.



Gravatarthis pic is also very amazing: Franklin watching over Obama, Durbin, Frank and Dodd.
plum p,better democrats please | 07.14.09 - 11:18 pm | #

is that why franklin is gagging???


Gravatarwhite with foam...

and then there is the gooper judiciary song:
We talk real funny down here
We drink too much and we laugh too loud
Were too dumb to make it in no northern town
And were keepin the niggers down
We got no-necked oilmen from texas
And good ol boys from tennessee
And colleges men from lsu
Went in dumb - come out dumb too
Hustlin round atlanta in their alligator shoes
Gettin drunk every weekend at the barbecues
And theyre keepin the niggers down
Were rednecks, rednecks
And we dont know our ass from a hole in the ground
Were rednecks, were rednecks
And were keeping the niggers down


Gravatarhm. I think later might be better than sooner all of a sudden...


GravatarAh, that's better. I was afraid for a minute I was KILLFILED!


GravatarA Commentary By Dick Morris

How can he comment with all those toes in his mouth?


GravatarOh joy.
steve simels | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 11:19 pm | #

indeed. i am joyful AND triumphant.


GravatarSomewhere, someone out there is trying to keep a scorecard on the all star game. Hope he/she is using pencil.


Gravatarimagine having this as your relief corps:

papelbon
fuentes
riviera


whooosh


GravatarHi JP!

WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?
The Kenosha Kid |


That I think you're cute.


Gravatar"Can we put George Will's head in liquid nitrogen?"

..and then into a turkey fryer?


GravatarLESS THAN IMPRESSIVE

I've started a spreadsheet with ridiculous ReNAMBLAcan predictions; I already have auggie's prediction that the GOP will pick up 25+ seats in 2010.

Got one I can record for your silly ass?


GravatarMcCain looks like he's trying to smuggle a donut in that jowl, and just got busted.
Gromit |


He sprained his cheek blowing on his soup at the Perkins Early Bird

(stolen from Letterman... ) o fuck you haloscan I did not)


GravatarAh, that's better. I was afraid for a minute I was KILLFILED!
Integral ♠ Lit 57025 | 07.14.09 - 11:20 pm | #

i get killfiled all the time. its not so bad. you get used to it and eventually you realize those walls are not keeping you out. they are keeping the nuts in!!


Gravatarsrcfo good to see you in here.

Gromit: I'm glad things went well today.


Gravatar"That I think you're cute."

oh my.


GravatarThe images of President Obama in the White House were fun to see.


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GravatarI've started a spreadsheet with ridiculous ReNAMBLAcan predictions;
Jeffraham, public option | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 11:22 pm | #

you need a hobby.


GravatarCan we put George Will's head in liquid nitrogen?
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Agent Orange


How about all of him? I'm sure Captain Picard and his crew will find him entertaining.


GravatarDang, there's a skunk walkin' by outside.

Keep walkin'.


GravatarSOTOMAYER WAS CHOPPING BUT NO CHIPS WERE FLYING ALL DAY LONG. LESS THAN IMPRESSIVE


You're delusional. Only thing flying around the room were your Repig monkeys, who did more damage to themselves today than McCain and Palin and all the adulterers in your party put together, since the inaugeration.


Gravataryou need a hobby.

I have one: Rubbing your face in it, every day.


Gravatar That I think you're cute.

[blushing emoticon]


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GravatarI have one: Rubbing your face in it, every day.
Jeffraham, public option | Homepage | 07.14.09 - 11:24 pm | #

correction: you need a better hobby.


GravatarLambert has brilliant analysis of the health care bill


GravatarDang, there's a skunk walkin' by outside.

Keep walkin'.
Ina Face

Nah. Just a Republican.


GravatarAL wins! Ichiro's famous pre-game pep talk works again!


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