I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Pow
Trains?
700 Billion
Its a lot of lots of things.
I like trains, if you know what I mean.
Toot toot!
Trannies?
In response to last thread:
You people are OLD.
/ducks
Not to mention fast trains...
I got a kick out of Soul Train.
Can Bernanke n Paulson fly them over big shit pile and drop money?
No supertrains for you!
McPTSD would punch those nasty bankers in the nose if he was President
The masses don't need your handouts, good sir!
/Rethuglican "populist"
I prefer the Love Train.
Supertrain.
Awesome contemporary brit band...
...or not.
which one was propelled by nuclear power, the supertrain or the superbus ??
i'm getting my 70's made for television movies mixed up
So if we follow all this money to where it all went, where it it? I want those mofos to pay.
I'd rather talk about Barack Obama.
Via Ian Welsh at FDL, here's the key points of the Billionaire Bailout Bill (slight rearrangement by Yours Truly). Cut and paste them into an email and send it out to everyone you know:
Key Points of the Billionaire Bailout Bill (via firedoglake.com):
* The man overseeing the bailout, Secretary of the Treasury Paulson, is the ex-CEO of Goldman Sachs, a Wall Street Company. He helped cause the crisis - he helped obtain the SEC exemption which allowed brokerages to increase leverage to 60:1 from 12:1.
* He gets 700 Billion dollars to use as he sees fit, looking after the taxpayer is a "consideration" not a requirement.
* The money is Paulson's to use for buying commercial and residential mortgages and mortgaged backed securities as he chooses. No one has any oversight over him, and he can pay any price he wants to, including face amount of the debt.
* Courts cannot review his decisions, not can any regulators. He has to report to Congress once every six months.
* There is no bailout for mortgage holders. Banks get bailed out, but not ordinary people.
* Banks and brokerages made record profits these last eight years. Ordinary Americans barely broke even.
* In 2007 Wall Street paid itself bonuses equal to the raises of 80 million Americans.
* Banks bailed out by this plan need make no changes in how they do business and need not replace the management which drove them into insolvency.
* Shareholders and bondholders of such banks do not lose a cent.
* The securities which caused this crisis are still allowed.
* Expect the 700 billion dollars to increase inflation, especially in oil.
* Bush is asking you to trust his administration with 700 billion after spending 580 billion on the Iraq war. Do YOU trust him?
http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/2...eck/#more-
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I prefer the Love Train.
I prefer the Coors Light bullet train. Because it's cool.
Atrios! Here's the SUPERTRAIN!!!
Duceppe wants high-speed train in Quebec
Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe called Saturday for a high-speed train between Quebec City and Montreal, and eventually on into Ontario and the United States.
The train would be good for the environment and create jobs, he said in Quebec City.
He called on the federal government to support the idea.
The premiers of Ontario and Quebec launched a study in January to look into the prospects for high-speed train links between major cities such as Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto.
The federal government has agreed to participate in the study, the premiers said.
Duceppe said the Conservatives have rejected the train as too expensive. The figure of $23 billion was mentioned when the premiers announced the study.
He said the federal government has given much more to polluting industries, and "that money has gone up in smoke and greenhouse gas emissions."
Tell all the folks in Russia and China too!
(because we need to borrow money from them)
'Cause if you miss the Rethuglican Love Train, I feel sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry for youuuuuu!
Supertrains are for Yurpeens, along with long vacations and guaranteed health insurance.
Americans are better off being overworked, frightened of medical bills and abused by TSA employees at airports.
He should tell the Dems in no uncertain terms that they are on notice not to do jackshit till January or he's going to kick their motherfucking asses personally.
I liked how this sounded.
It's also a lot of dental work for people who can't afford it despite being employed and having insurance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...h?
v=J2jUYNimDnE
I hear McCain and Paulson were piloting this train...
Six more days and I'll be gone
Get On The train that'll take me home
That old train is where I belong
Home's gonna feel just fine
When that old trains gonna move me down the line
http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/2.../2...eck/#more-
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dave™© | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 7:58 pm | #
Hey I was about to post the very same freaking article and HALO said there were too many returns...
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...lank-
check.html
Still even though I didn't post it. It is a great article....
Deadthreaded again.
If Obama doesn't come out against this, I'm going to be mightly disappointed. mer
IMO the smartest thing he could do would be to draw a line between himself and the deservedly hated Congressional Dems by strongly denouncing this as a lame duck giveaway of all the rest of the money to the neoncons and their pals and nothing less than an attempt to destroy the democracy.
He should tell the Dems in no uncertain terms that they are on notice not to do jackshit till January or he's going to kick their motherfucking asses personally.
After saying which, he'll have to deal with the monkeys that will inexplicably be flying out of his butt.
So what are the options? If we don't take over these bad assets, what happens. Or what else can we do?
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Toonces is driving ALL of our cars, now.
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which one was propelled by nuclear power, the supertrain or the superbus ??
i'm getting my 70's made for television movies mixed up
The Big Bus(1976), not made for TV but for real moom pitcher theeaters, tho not in Senssurround.
Stockard Channing...tres hot.
PALIN TOO DUMB TO DEBATE BIDEN, MC CAIN CAMPAIGN SAYS (My headline)
By PATRICK HEALY
Published: September 20, 2008
New York Times
The Obama and McCain campaigns have agreed to an unusual free-flowing format for the three televised presidential debates, which begin on Friday, but the McCain camp fought for and won a much more structured approach for the questioning at the vice-presidential debate, advisers to both campaigns said Saturday.
Mr. Obama, shown in Florida on Friday, won an agreement for the first debates to be about foreign policy and national security.
At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.
McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/2...=rssnyt&
emc=rss
You people are OLD.
I at least made my Chilton ref by way of Westerberg.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/2.../2...eck/#more-
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dave™© | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 7:58 pm | #
Hey I was about to post the very same freaking article and HALO said there were too many returns...
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...lank- check.html
Still even though I didn't post it. It is a great article....
pigboy | 09.20.08 - 8:00 pm | #
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Deadthreaded again.
Jeezus guys, I posted it at 7:57.
From below:
So we can be fucked by a Republican, or fucked by a Democrat?
Everyone knows your Democratic party aren't saints, but that logic is forever dead after Bush.
And Duceppe could win seats out here if he'd push his trains farther west. You know tyou can't take the train to Banff any more? It's what the freaking country was founded on!
I liked how this sounded.
camelot, party unity finally
Me too. But then, as JeffCO rightly pointed out, after saying this, Obama will "have to deal with the monkeys that will inexplicably be flying out of his butt."
Let's get real. Na ga happen.
I'm sorry, but I have no faith any of this works out for anything but total failure.
Best to let it all fail now and pick up the pieces sooner rather than later.
Honker's Ale: WISH I COULD GIT IT, HERE!
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What is Harvard's endowment, 100 Billion?
So this is seven Harvards. The med schools, the business schools, the colleges, the law schools, the grad schools. Seven of each.
Think about that.
Oh yeah this bailout will cripple any incoming administration and destroy our social services.
~ The "communist" Chinese use capitalism to bail out their state-run enterprises.
~ The "capitalist" US uses socialism to bail out its corporations.
~ And Notre Dame still sucks.
All is right with the world...
300 B2's?
Americans are better off being overworked, frightened of medical bills and abused by TSA employees at airports.
Freedom from fear is so, well, socialist.
Americans are a fearful people, for damn good reason - it's our freedom they want. Cowering in corners with duct tape and Visqueen while sitting in the dark of a foreclosed home eating Army Surplus MRE's and voting Republican is the only way to be a true patriot.
/Rethuglican "populist"
Jeffraham: Where are you?
I saw Honker's in London, in the Borough Market.
So what are the options?
Use $700 billion to set up a national housing security administration, which helps people defaulting on loans and provides low-interest loans to new homebuyers. Use the money to establish an enormous stock of non-market housing, which will both help lower income people and serve as a check on the hyperinflated housing market.
Mr. Obama, shown in Florida on Friday, won an agreement for the first debates to be about foreign policy and national security.
Whoops. Wrong debate topic.
Jeezus guys, I posted it at 7:57.
camelot, party unity finally | 09.20.08 - 8:02 pm | #
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Yeah right! As if you could have out posted the pigboy.....
Hey I was about to post the very same freaking article and HALO said there were too many returns...
Yeah, I cut out a couple and combined a couple more.
McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.
But, but, but shes ready to lead!!
Snark
Can someone in touch with the Obama campaign please immediately explain why they are making ONE single goddam concession to the motherfucking GOP regarding debates?
What the goddam fucking fuck?
JeffCo, if you're a Big Star fan you might want to pick this up.
Well, I'm off. Gotta continue to watch season 4 of The Wire.
Later.
Oh yeah this bailout will cripple any incoming administration and destroy our social services.
pigboy
feature, not a bug
David Derbes: Jeffraham: Where are you?
Nashville.
Funny -- Aldi now has some Goose Island Grape Soda and Root Beer. 
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Its a lot of lots of things.
Unless it's being spent by a neo-con conservative, in which case it would be frittered away on fripperies.
Oh yeah this bailout will cripple any incoming administration and destroy our social services.
With the Obama Administration thoroughly discredited as a result, the people in despair will TURN TO A DIVINE FUHRER WHO WILL LEAD THEM TO WORLD CONQUEST!!
[maniacal laughter]
soul train
badboyzbadboyz
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Some things are best left deadthreaded.
What the goddam fucking fuck?
JeffCO
Dunno. It's pathetic. Not only is it stupid, but this story just makes them look weak.
IMO the smartest thing he could do would be to draw a line between himself and the deservedly hated Congressional Dems by strongly denouncing this as a lame duck giveaway of all the rest of the money to the neoncons and their pals and nothing less than an attempt to destroy the democracy.
He should tell the Dems in no uncertain terms that they are on notice not to do jackshit till January or he's going to kick their motherfucking asses personally.
Yep.
Look at all those people at the Auburn/LSU game. They don't seem concerned. This is probably nothing.
/sarcasm
Yeah right! As if you could have out posted the pigboy.....
pigboy | 09.20.08 - 8:04 pm | #
7:57, at the end of the last thread, but you're bringing out my ugly competitive side.
So, Jeffraham, talk to the nice people at Aldi and get 'em to get the good stuff!
My local grocery has Bell's Pale Ale and Amber Ale, but not yet the Two Hearted. The local liquor store has a couple others, but not the Two Hearted.
I suspect a Republican plot.
Yeah, I cut out a couple and combined a couple more.
dave™© | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 8:04 pm | #
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I glad I saw that after mine was rejected. Double posts suck
Anyone still talkin bout beer?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cjs...tt69/484356863/
This is pretty much perfect beer.
Meanwhile, Houston is still floundering under a failed government.
The 1 year-old is no longer bratty. We took her out for ice cream and she melted my heart. She ate her small vanilla in a baby cup and then proceeded to eat a few spoonfuls of my sundae. Then we gave each other kisses. I'm going to kidnap her. Anyone willing to take in "a package" until the heat dies down?
7:57, at the end of the last thread, but you're bringing out my ugly competitive side.
camelot, party unity finally | 09.20.08 - 8:06 pm | #
Sorry 
it's all good
"Anyone still talkin bout beer?|"
yuengling lager on tap
I'll stick with that
Can someone in touch with the Obama campaign please immediately explain why they are making ONE single goddam concession to the motherfucking GOP regarding debates?
Actually, I think getting a narrative out there that they promised to go easy on Little Miss Wingnut at her insistence is pretty fucking funny.
And should make for some good fodder for Biden in the weeks leading up to their debate (and during it, too)...
McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive
they should put a lectern in her backyard ...
JeffCo, if you're a Big Star fan you might want to pick this up. Phila
Kewl - thanks for the link!
David Derbes: So, Jeffraham, talk to the nice people at Aldi and get 'em to get the good stuff!
Aldi doesn't do beer licenses here, for some reason. Grocery stores can stock beer in TN, no problem-o.
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Mr. Obama, shown in Florida on Friday, won an agreement for the first debates to be about foreign policy and national security.
Whoops. Wrong debate topic.
Nope, exactly right for Obama. The topic area is supposed to be McGoo's strong suit. If Obama outdoes him on this he's got McGoo on the ropes for the rest of the campaign. OTOH if Obama doesn't put him away, there are two more debates and plenty of time for the electorate's 30-second attention span to shift.
McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.
No matter, she's going to be back home in Wasilla, collecting her gubernatorial per diem and stirring a nice pot of moose stew come Jan. 20, 2009.
This is pretty much perfect beer.
Danny Guam | 09.20.08 - 8:07 pm | #
I've said this many times, and I'll say it again:
Fuckin' Unibroue.
I bottled my first batch of beer Thursday. Two weeks before I can drink it.
Anyone? Just for a few weeks. I'll pay all expenses and throw in a little more for your hospitality.
OK kids, off to pick up my lovely wife, and then - dinner at In-n-Out Burger!
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... double-double!!!
I'll pay all expenses and throw in a little more for your hospitality.
I'll do it for 700 Billion. No less.
Brewer's Art, in Baltimore, Jack.
Maybe, Ms. Palin can campaign from her back porch.
McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.
I'm sure Osama Bin Laden would give her the same consideration, right, wingnuts?
Phila,
elitist!
"Anyone? Just for a few weeks."
I've had one year olds in my house several times. the thrill wears off, believe me
I'll do it for 700 Billion. No less.
I'm not willing to go above $300. Final offer.
Nope, exactly right for Obama. The topic area is supposed to be McGoo's strong suit. If Obama outdoes him on this he's got McGoo on the ropes for the rest of the campaign. OTOH if Obama doesn't put him away, there are two more debates and plenty of time for the electorate's 30-second attention span to shift.
Sufferin' Succotash
Word, brah.
Interesting. Sarah Palin shared a bedroom with her two sisters and brother, and sometimes they shared a bed when they were growing up.
I will not listen to JP about beer, since the SPARKS incident.
Im a pitbull hockey mom!
Please be easy on me, please, my friends.
I'll do it for 700 Billion. No less.
Hey, fuck that guy! I'll do it for 695 Billion! Gar-an-teed!!!
Jeffraham
Tlaz sent me these James Taylor Quartet cds and I'm digginem
I'll do it for 695 Billion! Gar-an-teed!!!
dave™©
No ups, no extras?
It's important to appreciate the current financial problems are largely America's. Yes of course these problems are devouring liquidity like a mofo. But its yer shit, wrap it in a sandwich and it eat. In Canuckistan, everyone, conservative, liberal, socialist sez it ain't happening here 'cause we got a well regulated banking industry. Dude, it's your particular problem. You oversaw this, voted for it now I'm estimating two trillion dollars will be taken out of your pocket to pay for it. Want to be difficult about it, then it's four trillion dollars.
...sometimes they shared a bed when they were growing up.
EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!!!
Well, that nap was short-lived. The guy next door revved up his power tools (saws and such like). I don't know what it is he is building on the weekends, but it must be ginormous.
I'm asking you guys to change a few diapers and feed her, not send her to private school.
Actually, I think getting a narrative out there that they promised to go easy on Little Miss Wingnut at her insistence is pretty fucking funny.
If that is indeed what happens. So far I'm not holding my breath on anyone pointing out in a totally nonsexist way that the only way mayor of podunk town becomes governor of state is by 1) being 100% controlled by the big money boys and 2) being only marginally more capable than a nasty foot fungus. Cf. Bush, G.W.
300 trillion?
Done!
elitist!
Danny Guam | 09.20.08 - 8:10 pm | #
Hey, if it's elitist to go for a beer that's 9% ABV, then guilty as charged!
No ups, no extras?
For you, I'll eat 'em! But JUST for you! I don't want anyone else coming on this lot and asking for that price...
No give away to Wall Street!
No! No! No!
Just for starters:
1. Immediate end to the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Not next year. NOW!
2. Immediate repeal of the loophole that allows some Wall Streeters to pay capital gains tax rates on ordinary income. And make it retroactive to the first year the damn loophole existed.
3. Immediate imposition of Eisenhower era marginal tax rates. Retroactive to last year. Eisenhower was a Republican president. Let Wall Street Republicans pay Republican tax rates!
4. Tax all capital gains above say $100,000/year as ordinary income.
(cont'd)
5. Bring back the estate tax. And make it 98% above 10 million dollars. If the super-wealthy want to control how their money is spent they can give it away while they are alive to see the good it does.
6. Impose a trading tax on stock and bond trades.
The party,
greedy gentlemen of Wall Street,
dear out-of-touch Congress,
clueless, inept Bush administration officials,
and incompetent, corrupt regulators,
is over.
"I'm asking you guys to change a few diapers and feed her,"
did my time.
I have three kids because I don't want four
camelot: I will not listen to JP about beer, since the SPARKS incident.
HAY!
I never recommended that to ANYONE! I noted that I'd seen it.
Me? I don't do flavored malt beverages, caffeine or no...!
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I'll do it for 695 Billion! Gar-an-teed!!!
Don't listen to that boob. He's gonna add tax to the final bill.
BTW, if all this economic talk has you frazzled, you could always go over to Bonus Critter Blogging.
I guarantee you will be soothed.
the SPARKS incident?
Is that related to the infamous Spork Incident?
I have three kids because I don't want four -Uncle Blodge
Bill Cosby?
Anyone willing to take in "a package" until the heat dies down?
sure, she will blend right in with ours
Her basketball victory in high school is supposedly the defining moment of her life.
God help us.
She's about my age.
When I was in high school, I broke my middle finger playing basketball, and right now, I'm raising that finger in the general direction of mother fucking Wasilla, AK.
If that is indeed what happens. So far I'm not holding my breath
Little Miss Wingnut is now a national punchline. Her own campaign just announced they asked Biden to go easy on her. This story writes itself...
Jeffraham Prestonian
I know, I know; I'm teasing. I wanted it to be wonderful....beer and caffeine! Too bad it tastes like orange crush.
Is that related to the infamous Spork Incident?
Not to mention the String Cheese Incident.
ErinPDX: Tlaz sent me these James Taylor Quartet cds and I'm digginem
It's not quite my cop o' tea, in general, but... funny thang. Allan Holdsworth's favorite bassist also regularly plays in Taylor's band (Jimmy Johnson).
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Phila,
just haven't seen that one around. When I saw that it appears to be made in Que beck ay qua.
Well, you know. Can you get it on tap in PDX?
I like this one made in very blue collar Georgetown/Seattle:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/unc...eweed/43803314/
More please...
"As Obama did earlier today, Biden zeroed in on a quote from McCain in a trade publication saying he’d open up the health insurance market “to more vigorous nationwide competition as we have done over the last decade in banking,” to provide for “more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst-excesses of state-based regulation.”
“Translated: get rid of the regulations, get rid of the protection, and hang on to your health insurance,” Biden said. “Ladies and gentlemen, this guy's not learned anything. I'm not joking.”
He's warming up for that high noon showdown with Palin the WonderMoose on October 2nd.
“John McCain and Sarah Palin, I understand why they’re oil people,” he said.
And, he continued, he understands the need to drill for more oil, though he expected oil companies to use existing areas first before expanding. “Why haven’t they done that when we’re told there’s 50 billion barrels of oil out there? You think maybe they kind of like the price the way it is?”"
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...lemen-
this.html
Little Miss Wingnut is now a national punchline. Her own campaign just announced they asked Biden to go easy on her. This story writes itself...
dave™©
I defer to your seniority.
We have a tough decision ahead of us, my friends. For the Palin debate appearance will it be buzzword bingo or a drinking game?
The heck with supertrains... I want BAT-TRAINS!
-
My Little Boat
by Imo Schmortz
Barack Obama, say this and I vote for you:
"Ladies and Gentlemen, not only do I oppose bailing out greedy corporations who preyed on the poor working and middle classes, but I vow to nationalize health care along the lines of Canada and most Euro countries, and if the Repukes express one fucking syllable of outrage, I'll remind them of how they wanted to socialize these Wall Street greedheads! And when we're done nationalizing health care, we'll move on to the means of production!"
Holy crap.
Our friend Uncle Smokes has been busy.
Yikes! 
"Bill Cosby?"
he's a fellow temple alumni
he won't mind me stealing from him
E-bay. The answer to all our problems. Let's sell the Federal Reserve on e-bay.
clio | 09.20.08 - 8:13 pm | #
excellent ideas
1) being 100% controlled by the big money boys
I read something to this effect.
http://www.counterpunch.org/
conn...nn09172008.html
The Peter Principal
We have a tough decision ahead of us, my friends. For the Palin debate appearance will it be buzzword bingo or a drinking game?
George Johnston
You're kidding, right?
[sips drink]
E-bay. The answer to all our problems. Let's sell the Federal Reserve on e-bay.
Can't we just drown it in a bathtub?
Uni-brow beer.
I have those. I may have finch nests in mine. I never knew you could brew in them.
buzzword bingo or a drinking game?
Can't we combine these?
E-bay. The answer to all our problems. Let's sell the Federal Reserve on e-bay.
Echidne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I thought it was already on Craigslist?
FSU trails Wake Forest, 3-0, in the 2nd quarter.
It should be much worse. Hope the 'Noles can take advantage of not being out of it yet. Although they just missed a field goal ...
Now, see, MSNBC is running with the fact that she was supposedly first runner-up in Miss Alaska, and was awarded Miss Congeniality. I read, I think it was on Mudflats Blog, that she was neither first runner up nor Miss Congeniality, and there were some links to the women who really won those titles.
Very weird.
More lies for Olbermann.
in regards to the 'draft proposal', can language consisting of "class-a voting stock from the recieving company shall be granted to the u.s.gov't in an amount equal to the monies paid regarding the bad loans" and "the upper management of any company recieving monies pursuant to this act cannot be paid more than the minimum wage" or words to that effect
at least the republicans would be more apt to raise it the next time it comes up for debate
Dinner and White Sox call.
Magic number 7.
The key is the series with the Twinkies next week.
Later, folks. Don't give no blank checks to no bailout of the richies.
he's a fellow temple alumni -he won't mind me stealing from him -Uncle Blodge
You both *chose* Temple. ANd I was very impressed by your performance in the Penn Relays.
E-bay. The answer to all our problems. Let's sell the Federal Reserve on e-bay.
Can't we just drown it in a bathtub?
No, because I need enough money for an airline ticket.
Barack Obama, say this and I vote for you:
no, no you won't. you are a McCain voter, and we all know it, Ellie Mae
Her own campaign just announced they asked Biden to go easy on her. This story writes itself...
dave™© | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 8:15 pm | #
Seems like typical downgrading of expectations to me. I don't at all trust Biden to do the job properly. Wish to God I did.
Doug: Uni-brow beer.
I'm gonna have to watch Dodgeball again, this weekend, thanks to that comment.
I swear, I nearly pissed myself laughing at that stupid movie in several points... but the best was seeing the unibrow lady and the geeky dude make that love connection.
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"You both *chose* Temple."
true
I could have gone anywhere
E-bay. The answer to all our problems. Let's sell the Federal Reserve on e-bay. Echidne
I am shocked that the wingnuts are not up in arms over wanting to make the national language ebaynics.
Cry me a river.
Even celebrities aren't immune to the pitfalls of South Florida's real estate market. Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino sold his Parkland house for $2.35 million, or $600,000 less than what he paid for it in 2005, Broward property records show. The 9,286-square-foot house with seven bedrooms and 9 1/2 baths was bought by David L. Spiller last month. Marino and his wife, Claire, had listed the house for sale for $4.65 million two years ago. They later dropped the price to $3.5 million but still got no takers. In February, the couple auctioned the property, but no one met the lowest price the Marinos were willing to accept. The sale was first reported in the Daily Business Review.
Miami Herald
Can you get it on tap in PDX?
Danny Guam | 09.20.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Not sure. Not at any of the places I go (or went, since I'm not allowed to drink these days). But the supermarket near my house carries it.
Dead threaded:
Ya know, the Dems get to write the bail-out bill any way they want. Full disclosure, independent auditor with complete access, full oversight, anything they want. Then give to bush and make him veto it at the risk of global financial meltdown. Fuck 'em. Dems have the upper hand, if they have the balls.
Part of me would like to watch the Biden-Palin debate (the vicious part of me), but another part thinks it might be wiser to just read CoT's transcript of the event (the rational part of me).
Yikes!
Sinf, awaiting knee surgery
Couldn't help myself...had two pix of you in Portland getting such pleasure from that big honking cigar. When I put them together and realized I'd made a heart shape...well...
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
-- Sigmund Freud
"Dems have the upper hand, if they have the balls.|"
your qualifier is the key
I am shocked that the wingnuts are not up in arms over wanting to make the national language ebaynics.
JeffCO | 09.20.08 - 8:22 pm | #
Maybe they're taking orders from She-Who-Must-Be-eBayed.
Fuck 'em. Dems have the upper hand, if they have the balls.
To get them to act may take another Boston Teabag Party.
Uncle Smokes -- I got your CD, btw, but can't make heads or tails!
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your qualifier is the key
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 8:23 pm
'twas ever thus.
No Deal (cont)
Thank God they did away with all the arcane, esoteric economic stipulations the predators used, while making sure it's not an open-ended black hole for taxpayer money:
For the purpose of the authorities granted in this Act, and for the costs of administering those authorities, the Secretary may use the proceeds of the sale of any securities issued under chapter 31 of title 31, United States Code, and the purposes for which securities may be issued under chapter 31 of title 31, United States Code, are extended to include actions authorized by this Act, including the payment of administrative expenses. Any funds expended for actions authorized by this Act, including the payment of administrative expenses, shall be deemed appropriated at the time of such expenditure.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/2...ess&
oref=slogin
I guess everyone is killfiling me tonight.
*sobs*
Or, I may just be boring.
*sobs*
You mean the trains that run into buses or the ones that run into other trains?
Couldn't help myself...had two pix of you in Portland getting such pleasure from that big honking cigar.
HA! There you are ... you're sneaky.
That was the best cigar (IMO) you can get in the U.S. -- Fuente Fuente Opus X. I was saving it for a special occasion. Seemed appropriate.
Ladies and Gentleman, I give you -
Sinfonian, the fire breathing liberal:
http://i114.photobucket.com/
albu...fonian_fire.jpg
I ♥ Vicki!
.
To my mind, America had a dumb-ass, criminal, corrupt, vile, stupid unregulated banking system. Oh, and who was the number one cheerleader for deregulating the banking industry: McCain.
Barack Obama, say this and I vote for you:
no, no you won't. you are a McCain voter, and we all know it, Ellie Mae
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yes! Yes!
You're still a stupid fucking moron...
I guess everyone is killfiling me tonight.
Pfft. I made the teabag reference just for *you*!
VICI I'M NOT
Distracted by kidz and husband who won't give up the fargo accent
Uncle Smokes -- I got your CD, btw, but can't make heads or tails!
Jeffraham Prestonian
My...that was enigmatic...are you flipping it in the air to decide on dinner?
FYI, some Criterion DVDs over 50% off at Amazon.
"I guess everyone is killfiling me tonight."
I'm just too shy to come ask you to dance
Uncle Smokes -- I got your CD, btw, but can't make heads or tails!
Jeffraham Prestonian
Best part of the CD, I thought (besides me saying "Delete my fucking account!" ), was the opening of "President McCain," when Uncle Smokes asks, "What's the first thing that comes to mind when I say the phrase 'President McCain?'" and the response -- from watertiger, I think -- is simply, "Oh, FUCK ME."
Tlaz sent me these James Taylor Quartet cds and I'm digginem
Ah, very excellent!
Uncle Smokes: My...that was enigmatic...are you flipping it in the air to decide on dinner?
No. I'm just aurally dyslexic.
I'm thinking of sweeping through it with Sound Forge to separate the stand-up from the tunes (if possible), so I can listen to each, individually.
.
♥ you all.
McCain: I'm Not For Privatization Of
Social Security
McCain 2004: "Without Privatization, I Don't See How You Can Possibly Over Time Make Sure Young Americans Are Able To Receive Social Security Benefits"...
Am I the only one sober tonight? I hate when that happens.
Nothing on TV so I've decided to put on the DVD for "All About Eve."
The bitchiest movie ever made!
Oh, geez, Danny ...
You know, red-eye reduction fixes that right up.
(thanks!)
Uh, Sinfonian?
You don't think that photo is funny?
camelot: Am I the only one sober tonight? I hate when that happens.
I'm legally sober, but working on that.
.
FYI, some Criterion DVDs over 50% off at Amazon.
JeffCO | 09.20.08 - 8:27 pm | #
Already have the ones I want, unfortunately. Wouldn't mind 50% off "Le Plaisir," though...
I'm sorry, I just can't let go of this:
Any funds expended for actions authorized by this Act, including the payment of administrative expenses, shall be deemed appropriated at the time of such expenditure.
Sort of like when you call one of those corporate info lines that tells you, "If you'd like to hang up, press 9."
"What da fuck did I just hear?"
"Am I the only one sober tonight? I hate when that happens."
kids + pain meds = sober me
dammit
Seriously, though, aren't they groovy? You can dance to them, sing along, make out, or just listen. I wish they would come here on tour, but they seem to stick to Europe.
Am I the only one sober tonight? I hate when that happens.
camelot, party unity finally
Nah, I'm basically sober. I wanted to drink, but I have to clean up my house before a showing tomorrow at 11. Just found out this afternoon. Thanks for the early notice, d00d ... 
I'm just too shy to come ask you to dance
umhum
Us chicks, we take one look at the empty dance floor, see chickens like you, and go out and dance with each other, daring you to join us. cmon babe, dance with us
Am I the only one sober tonight? I hate when that happens.
camelot, party unity finally
I've been sober for almost 25 years, which still amazes me!
Oh, never mind.
You did see it.
Am I the only one sober tonight? I hate when that happens. camelot
I'm always sober.
You don't think that photo is funny?
Danny Guam
'Course I do. I was jes' teasin' ...
camelot: Am I the only one sober tonight?
(sheepishly raises hand)
do you live in a swing state?
Clarion Fund
actually the first time i saw 'Obsession' was on Fux U News.
Tlazolteotl
Thanks so much...brightened up our day. The kids were dancin/grovin thru the kitchen.
"Am I the only one sober tonight? I hate when that happens."
kids + pain meds = sober me
dammit
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 8:30 pm | #
Oh right, pain meds.
"Am I the only one sober tonight? I hate when that happens."
I haven't been allowed to drink for going on six weeks now. It's not doing me much good, either.
Us chicks, we take one look at the empty dance floor, see chickens like you, and go out and dance with each other, daring you to join us. cmon babe, dance with us
Erin PDX Johnson is RIGHT!
i'm never sober.
not if i can help it.
Thanks to an ingenious political maneuver, orchestrated by Big Oil, Sarah Palin has been transformed from oil’s political antagonist to a potential ally at the national level.
Piss off big oil and you too can be a VeePee!
[sings]
Are you sober tonight?
Do you miss me tonight?
Are you sorry we drifted apart?
"see chickens like you, and go out and dance with each other, daring you to join us. cmon babe, dance with us"
had a g/f who told me more or less if guys knew how much dancing increased their chances of getting laid they'd dance more.
I also have a pic of Erin in a moosehat.
Could prove valuable some day.
October Surprise comes early.
If they can't win, they trash the place.
UNCLE SMOKES!
I thought you might like them - might have been a little more disco than your tastes, but they really are tight musically, and a lot of fun to listen to.
Erin PDX Johnson is RIGHT!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 8:32 pm | #
What's this "Johnson" thing...keep seeing it, but me no savvy.
charley: i'm never sober.
I am, every day. Some nights, I like not to drink any alcohol, at all, though. I always sleep better on those nights.
.
had a g/f who told me more or less if guys knew how much dancing increased their chances of getting laid they'd dance more.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Yep. I love to dance (well, when my knees work), and it's always been a good thing.
Could prove valuable some day.
Cheney must keep records, judge orders
Story Highlights
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued over records
Defendants are Cheney, president's office, National Archives
Judge ruled against administration over visitor logs in December
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...suit/
index.html
Personally I explain the world as every Dude being high as a kite or really drunk. It explains so much.
We don't have time for Congress to get involved. This an an emergency of world-historical proportions.
Re Johnson cf Blazing Saddles.
I also have a pic of Erin in a moosehat.
I do too. It's cute!
I keed, I keed.
This is an interesting blog to flip through. Beautiful AK scenery, cute doggies, nosey mooses, and lots of really snarky signs at a Palin protest.
http://laurainak.blogspot.com/
20...01_archive.html
Nah, I'm basically sober
I have to admit I was worried that you were drinking your way through the football games (as you mentioned earlier today) and then planning on taking pain medication.
I realize I have to stop mothering everyone, so I tried to control myself and now I have blown it!
Cookie Fleck
Congrats.
I'm being taken out tonight by the wife to Carouso's for Italian. They are the best for this in Tucson, been in business since the 30's and have survived the economic ups and downs of that location. The biggest problem these days is to get a table, and parking. I'll drive the micro Suzuki there, you can park it in some pretty small spaces.
Nothing on TV so I've decided to put on the DVD for "All About Eve."
The bitchiest movie ever made!
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008
I'd vote for 1939's The Women as a close second.
"I've had two years to grow claws, Mother...Jungle Red!"
-- Mary Haines (Norma Shearer), The Women
I also have a pic of Erin in a moosehat.
Could prove valuable some day.
Danny Guam
Oooh! I do, too!
This isn't it, though.
Erin, I got my hair cut today, too.
I'm going for that shorn sheep look. She did a great job of styling it and keeping it under an 1" long.
And to think my hair was at my shoulders two years ago.
loves me some Danny Guam and brother
I was cleaning up the dinner dishes, and starting wondering who will be on the bobbleheads in the morning. Will there be one, just one, person who says "No fucking way."
It's probably a pipe dream.
I realize I have to stop mothering everyone, so I tried to control myself and now I have blown it!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Would you be my mommy?
Defendants are Cheney, president's office, National Archives
I don't mean this in a threatening or vengeful way...but why is that cocksucker still alive?
had a g/f who told me more or less if guys knew how much dancing increased their chances of getting laid they'd dance more.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...h?
v=Ln5RD9BhcCo
Didnt seem to work for MC 'animal cruelty' Rover...
Heh
This isn't it, though. Sinf
I thought Bella Abzug died?
"If they can't win, they trash the place."
will they pull the O's off the keyboards?
I have to admit I was worried that you were drinking your way through the football games (as you mentioned earlier today) and then planning on taking pain medication.
I've only had one beer ... but I'm not on pain meds. I really only take one before bed; otherwise, I'm staying clean. I have too much to do to mess with my already-addled functioning.
It's nice of you to worry, though ...
I haven't been allowed to drink for going on six weeks now. It's not doing me much good, either.
Why, are you not allowed to drink?
What's this "Johnson" thing...keep seeing it, but me no savvy.
Phila, Mere Pseud Mag. Ed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
NTodd progressing from dildo's, perhaps?
Phila
Why?
I thought Bella Abzug died?
JeffCO
Wow. Ouch.
Why, are you not allowed to drink?
Doug | 09.20.08 - 8:36 pm | #
Elevated liver enzymes.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher : had a g/f who told me more or less if guys knew how much dancing increased their chances of getting laid they'd dance more.
The only edge that I ever had.
~
Mind you, if most of you motherfuckers ain't high or drunk right now, I'd have a difficult time explaining it.
A big mug of milk to Doug.
will they pull the O's off the keyboards?
They've stolen the 0's from the treasury.
kidz keeping us busy
Lotta percocet, too....
-
Wow. Ouch. Sinf
All I saw was the hat!
Elevated liver enzymes.
Phila, Mere Pseud Mag. Ed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
You need to get on Milk Thistle, pronto!
A few WMDs, too.
This isn't it, though.
Apparently not - I didn't see anything.
Anyway, just a drive by until later tonight. I have to go roast peppers now and make 'Victory Garden sandwiches.'
All I saw was the hat!
JeffCO
It's okay. I didn't even recognize you at first when I saw you at Kells. So I guess I deserve it.
Elevated liver enzymes. Phila
What if you lie on the floor in the basement?
Elevated liver enzymes.
In that case, can you use this?
(hands phila, a lit merchaum hash pipe)
Cookie Fleck
Congrats.
camelot, party unity finally
Aw, thanks.
This isn't it, though.
Apparently not - I didn't see anything.
It's there. Try again.
It's okay. I didn't even recognize you at first when I saw you at Kells. So I guess I deserve it. Sinf
Or apparently the night before!
" Cookie Fleck "
any relation to the flecks that used to own the TV shop up the road?
The Iraq war will be paid for by our children and grandchildren. This bailout will be paid for by the children and grandchildren of our grandchildren. This is the robbery of national prosperity for the entire forseeable future by transferring of wealth from middle and working class taxpayers to the greedy speculators of the tycoon class.
Would it be fair to post Tlazolteotl's pic after she leaves?
trifecta has the top recommended diary at kos right now:
Breaking: VP debate Rules Changed to Compensate for Palin
(hands phila, a lit merchaum hash pipe)
Doug | 09.20.08 - 8:39 pm | #
Thanks, friend...but pot makes me too jittery. I'm all about the CNS depressants.
I am so jealous of those who made it out to PDX. please post more moosehat photos
Or apparently the night before!
JeffCO
I didn't see you at all the night before -- I mean, I saw you but didn't, you know what I mean? I was in and out and really was distracted from driving and such. Sorry!
hey phila i saw your lori dix photos which reminded me of another photographer, whose name i will never remember, i'd have to dig thru a lot of copies of art news to find him.
but david levinthal works that vein too.
jeffraham, a scooter and a 12 pack in the fl. keys, i could learn to love that life.
Saw my foist SARAH! yard sign 3hrs ago.
Laughed out loud as I drove past.
Would it be fair to post Tlazolteotl's pic after she leaves?
Only if you label it phonetically.
I'm thinking of sweeping through it with Sound Forge to separate the stand-up from the tunes (if possible), so I can listen to each, individually.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Ah...I see...mixing is always such a challenge...what sounds good on headphones sounds crap in a car or on a home stereo...so hard to find the right balance, especially when dealing with live recordings of people chattering over background noise.
Best part of the CD, I thought (besides me saying "Delete my fucking account!" ), was the opening of "President McCain," when Uncle Smokes asks, "What's the first thing that comes to mind when I say the phrase 'President McCain?'" and the response -- from watertiger, I think -- is simply, "Oh, FUCK ME."
Sinf, awaiting knee surgery
Indeed that was Watertiger...and thanks again for jump-starting my music-making with the compliment this morning. I had a lot of fun working up a cover of an obscure "Louie Louie" style tune, Mark Markham and His Jesters' "Marlboro Country".
Can't go wrong with the old I-IV-V chord progressions!
wish we would have taken a moose photo but from the rear. oh well
ok, the babes are asleep, the Gato4rs are victorious, I guess I can go back to the party to watch the LSU game.
sinf, I hope the Seminoles can beat Wake, that would be soooo cool. we need them to be contenders when we kick there asses in November
charley: jeffraham, a scooter and a 12 pack in the fl. keys, i could learn to love that life.
Yeah, but I'm in Nashville... not the Keys.
.
Can't go wrong with the old I-IV-V chord progressions!
Mind you, if most of you motherfuckers ain't high or drunk right now, I'd have a difficult time explaining it.
Le Jackel
(hands phila, a lit merchaum hash pipe)
Doug
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yeah, make sure you give the fascists more reason to stereotype liberals as irresponsible Dionysians.
Stop the drinking and dope, abandon dead-end liberalism, work out, and turn yourselves into radical, leftwing revolutionary Apollonians!
WE NEED LEFT WING SCHWARZENEGGERS AND CHUCK NORRIS'S _NOT_ MORE WOODY HARRELSONS!!!!
Dumbasses.
AIG (AIG, Fortune 500) sold protection on nearly $600 billion of fixed income assets in the form of credit default swaps - including $57.8 billion tied to subprime mortgages.
Hey, thats almost 700 billion..odd that.
Personally, I'd call their bluff. If you ain't rich you got nothing to lose.
I have a few more photos from PDX but there was not much light in that room.
I have the photoshops open as we speak.
WE NEED LEFT WING SCHWARZENEGGERS AND CHUCK NORRIS'S _NOT_ MORE WOODY HARRELSONS!!!!
I bet my 100m grouping is tighter than yours, dood.
.
Ah...I see...mixing is always such a challenge...what sounds good on headphones sounds crap in a car or on a home stereo..
An odd factoid that I'm sure many know. The old 60's rock and roll songs were mixed for that bitty mono AM radio in US cars from that era. Some recording engineers, had one of those crappy speakers sitting in front of them so they could hear how the resulting mix would sound to a car driver.
I'd vote for 1939's The Women as a close second.
"I've had two years to grow claws, Mother...Jungle Red!"
-- Mary Haines (Norma Shearer), The Women
Uncle Smokes
I watched that the other night on TCM.
"There's a word for you ladies, but it's seldom used outside of a kennel!"
- Joan Crawford
jeebus, could Ellie Mae be any more of a Debbie Downer. Apollonian? Ellie's an Apollonian in the vein of Prince's sidekick/love interest. her purity schtick is just too funny
I saw a VPILF bumpersticker today. My mom asked me what it meant...
Seriously, though, at the football game we went to (9 year olds - my nephews are on the "Barracuda" team), everyone was talking about Obama.
It was weird for a change, here in Michigan, how people were openly talking about a Democrat.
Of course, this was Muskegon, and Muskegon is much more liberal than GR. Still...
Geesus Elias is a dick.
The dems probably had to agree to the easier rules for Palin in order to have a VP debate at all. The repubs are clearly afraid to have Palin debate.
Sorry! Sinf
No worries - I know you only have eyes for NTodd.
Elias | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 8:45 pm
Lighten up, Francis.
sinf, I hope the Seminoles can beat Wake, that would be soooo cool. we need them to be contenders when we kick there asses in November
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
hey phila i saw your lori dix photos which reminded me of another photographer, whose name i will never remember, i'd have to dig thru a lot of copies of art news to find him.
There are a few people working in that vein...that couple who makes the morbid snowglobes, for instance. And the guy who does those strange excavations with miniature scenes.
I thought these ones were particularly good, though...much more close up and detailed than most I've seen. That library one at the top of FHB must've taken forever.
No worries - I know you only have eyes for NTodd.
JeffCO
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Saw my foist SARAH! yard sign 3hrs ago.
And you didnt drive over it?
Me Keed
A hit and run and then I gotta put my oldest to bed:
My wife told me that a DA or AG candidate in Vermont has taken up Bugliosi's proposal to prosecute Shrub.
I was happy for a second until I thought out this scenario:
January 18,: Shrub issues pardons for his cadre.
January 19: Shrub "retires" from office making Cheney president. Cheney immediately issues pardon for Shrub.
jus sayin'
.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/ne...d.cfm?
id=303313
(1) The people who can best afford to pay and the people who have benefited most from Bush’s economic policies are the people who should provide the funds for the bailout. It would be immoral to ask the middle class, the people whose standard of living has declined under Bush, to pay for this bailout while the rich, once again, avoid their responsibilities. Further, if the government is going to save companies from bankruptcy, the taxpayers of this country should be rewarded for assuming the risk by sharing in the gains that result from this government bailout.
Specifically, to pay for the bailout, which is estimated to cost up to $1 trillion, the government should:
a) Impose a five-year, 10 percent surtax on income over $1 million a year for couples and over $500,000 for single taxpayers. That would raise more than $300 billion in revenue;
b) Ensure that assets purchased from banks are realistically discounted so companies are not rewarded for their risky behavior and taxpayers can recover the amount they paid for them; and
c) Require that taxpayers receive equity stakes in the bailed-out companies so that the assumption of risk is rewarded when companies’ stock goes up....
I bet my 100m grouping is tighter than yours, dood.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
~~~~~~~~~~~
Sorry, I'm in an exclusive realationship.
Breaking: VP debate Rules Changed to Compensate for Palin
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
The Dumbing Down of the Debates
jeffraham, a scooter and a 12 pack in the fl. keys, i could learn to love that life.
Ah, yes, the Keys ... America's Dribble™.
Hell dude, go for it, you got nothing to lose. Them, with their boozy, crack-whore weekends, they'll lose it all.
jeebus, could Ellie Mae be any more of a Debbie Downer. Apollonian? Ellie's an Apollonian in the vein of Prince's sidekick/love interest. her purity schtick is just too funny
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Title of this tread is "Deep Thought."
Shouldn't you be watching the game with the kiddies?
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Fortunately that shouldn't interrupt your light housecleaning. We all know you can't dust for vomit.
Actually I do work out, though since I've got a 58 year old body that may only consist of some weight lifting and some quick few mile hikes on some steep up and down trails in one of the monuments.
People (including my docs) who've seen me say I'm in damned good shape for my age
We just hosted a huge Northern NE Atriot gathering. Gromit, Dr Mrs Gromit, and Sidhra, who is in town for a sailboat racing weekend.
Good food and conversation by the lake, with just a little beer. Sidhra was pretty sunburned and tired from a day wrestling a J/24 in 25 knot winds. I was surprised to learn that the winner gets an automatic spot in the World Championships next year.
Sinf: Ah, yes, the Keys ... America's Dribble™.
My friend, Jimmy Virgin (whose wife became a Virgin as soon as she married him) used to call that "peter tracks."
.
I saw a VPILF bumpersticker today. My mom asked me what it meant...
Heh. I saw one last week that blew my mind:
McCAIN [flag] PALIN
A Hero & A Hottie!
The repubs are clearly afraid to have Palin debate.
Tralfaz | 09.20.08 - 8:48 pm | #
I dunno. I think they think they can spin it their way as long as she doesn't speak in tongues or call Obama a nigger. They've been announcing how worried they are about debates for years now...I don't buy it.
JeffCO
Some recording engineers, had one of those crappy speakers sitting in front of them so they could hear how the resulting mix would sound to a car driver.
Doug
Not surprised...just I read that the bass mix was eased off for vinyl masters to keep vibrations from making the needle jump.
McCAIN [flag] PALIN
A Hero & A Hottie!
(Projectile vomiting)
(1) The people who can best afford to pay and the people who have benefited most from Bush’s economic policies are the people who should provide the funds for the bailout.
I am shocked, SHOCKED, not to hear the cries from the wingnuts of the right to let the invisible hand of the market work it all out and if intervention must be made that it be done using private funds.
Shocked, I tells ya!
Hmm...at $128 million a mile, that's about 5500 miles of Supertrain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Line
A Hero & A Hottie!
Okay another hit and run and then I am really putting my daughter to bed.
McCain* Palin
Incontinence and Incompetence
.
A Hero & A Hottie!
Sinf, awaiting knee surgery
A Gyro & A Hotplate!
jeebus, could Ellie Mae be any more of a Debbie Downer. Apollonian? Ellie's an Apollonian in the vein of Prince's sidekick/love interest. her purity schtick is just too funny
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
I thought it was the wingers who didn't like people to have any fun.
People (including my docs) who've seen me say I'm in damned good shape for my age
Doug
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good for you, brother.
It's not about being able to run a marathon is under 3hrs, it's about doing the little things to destroy a self-deserved meme...
Not surprised...just I read that the bass mix was eased off for vinyl masters to keep vibrations from making the needle jump
Imagine trying to play one of the modern mixes on a turntable sitting in the same room if the volume was turned up.
McCAIN [swastiska] PALIN
Cranky and Skanky
Yeah, but I'm in Nashville... not the Keys.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian
it could be worse, you could be in orlando.
most people don't know this, but disney is the heart of darkness.
come to think of it i rekon nashville is a bit like disney, but you got's hills.
Palin shows up.
Wins debate.
All that was expectorated.
raise your hand if you think dems will tax the 'filthy-rich'.
McCAIN [flag] PALIN
A Hero & A Hottie!
So much for dignity of the office....
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh081.../
dh081502.shtml
A trip down memory lane..it's the spin room that decides the winner of the debate
Now me, I believe in moderation in all things, including sobriety.
Cranky and Skanky
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008 |
Excellent
Title of this tread is "Deep Thought."
and yet a purity troll without a thought in his noggin continues to pester us.
shouldn't you be out phone banmking for McKinney, or McCain, or whoever you calim to be supporting this week? maybe helping Clinton pay off her debt?b something besides annoying the grownups?
I've been seeing a few yard signs that say Another Family for McCain (barf me), but the overwhelming majority of signs and stickers are for Obama, no question.
Ooh, that's a good trivia question:
Which five FBS (formerly Div. I-A college football) teams use "Tigers" as their nickname?
I got four of 'em right away, but it took me a few minutes to think of the fifth one ...
I am shocked, SHOCKED, not to hear the cries from the wingnuts of the right to let the invisible hand of the market work it all out and if intervention must be made that it be done using private funds.
Shocked, I tells ya!
JeffCO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sorry to be all downery and stuff, but wasn't it the liberal icon named Clinton and his trusted TS Rubin (now Obama advisor) who helped construct this neoliberal economic rape of the American people?
Like I said, sorry to spoil everyone's Saturday night...
Mrs. Moe is getting a "ABC" yard sign from Danny Williams.
So, the global "free market" was just a "house of cards" after all....
Bush the Concern Troll spoke today during a White House event with Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe to push for approval of a free-trade agreement:
"The financial house of cards was much bigger, and it started to stretch beyond just Wall Street in the sense of the effects of failure.
"The problem would spread to the average citizen. This is Wall Street plus Main Street and I'm worried about Main Street."
Bush is worried about "Main Street" in the same way that he worried about Katrina!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I dunno. I think they think they can spin it their way as long as she doesn't speak in tongues or call Obama a nigger. They've been announcing how worried they are about debates for years now...I don't buy it.
Phila, Mere Pseud Mag. Ed.
shouldn't you be out phone banmking
It's like having a 5 year old nagging you for what they perceive as some health issue. They don't know enough about the situation, to make an valid judgment.
charley: come to think of it i rekon nashville is a bit like disney, but you got's hills.
Naw, it's really not... unless you spend all of your visit on 2nd Ave. and Lower Broadway.
.
Honest to dear god on a Ritz cracker... how can we hand over $700 BILLION without some concessions on the part of the financial industry, such as a partial government takeover, or a loan with interest, or... fer crisssakes... something?
This is shaping up to be the single greatest fleecing in the history of world governance.
Sorry to be all downery and stuff, but wasn't it the liberal icon named Clinton and his trusted TS Rubin (now Obama advisor) who helped construct this neoliberal economic rape of the American people?
aaaah, so that explains why you were such a rabid Clinton supporter during the 2008 primaries.
got it.
and yet a purity troll without a thought in his noggin continues to pester us.
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Aren't you tired of being a provocation troll bitch for the establishment trolls?
PROVOCATION TROLLS OF THE INTERNET UNITE!!!
They've been announcing how worried they are about debates for years now...I don't buy it.
Me neither. It's all a ploy, so they can turn around and rave about how unexpectedly awesome she was.
Actually I think this debate change this is to get Sarah back in the news...
Completely OT: Is there anyone that is "Mr. Fahrenheit?"
I want to change my nym to Ms Fahrenheit.
I, Of course, don't know everyone on every blog, so I am asking all of you brilliant, popular people if Ms Fahrenheit is taken.
Did y'all see this Keith Olberman inpression? I thought it was pretty damn funny...
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ok, now I'm off.
please feel free to staple a "kick me, I'm stupid" sign to tail of the purity ass.
Me neither. It's all a ploy, so they can turn around and rave about how unexpectedly awesome she was.
TJ, just tryin' to get by
Aw, hell, if she remains upright and doesn't drool on herself they'll say that anyway.
Anne Hathaway is something. There's something about some women with mouth's too generous, eyes too wide, that is quite breathtaking.
raise your hand if you think dems will tax the 'filthy-rich'.
gary in fl
There ya go, droney!
http://thumbsnap.com/v/SVY12k2u.jpg
if Ms Fahrenheit is taken.
I've never seen this nym, though myself I'd like the nymm Lord Kelvin better.
aaaah, so that explains why you were such a rabid Clinton supporter during the 2008 primaries.
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Yeah, realpolitik sucks, doesn't it?
At least I'm willing to admit a mistake.
How bout you, chickenshit? When will you admit your support of Obama is the exact same act of realpolitik?
Every time you say something like, "Well, I'm pissed at Obama for such and such, but I guess I'll still vote for him", aren't you admitting as much?
Go for it, camelot ... I mean, Ms Fahrenheit.
I would love love love to change my nym, but I don't think I can. Too many linkages (as opposed to links), especially in Florida, under this nym. Alas.
sorry to spoil
I know how you can make up for it.
Lord Kelvin and Lady Fahrenheit.
Sorry to be all downery and stuff,
No, you're not.
You enjoy showing up here and sucking the air out of the place.
Anne Hathaway is something. There's something about some women with mouth's too generous, eyes too wide, that is quite breathtaking.
Le Jackel
It probably goes without saying that I'd hit it™.
Like I said, sorry to spoil everyone's Saturday night...
Elias
You do that with your mere presence.
Nebber see ah MsFarenheit monickur
Cranky and Skanky
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008 | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 8:55 pm | #
BINGO!
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Lord Kelvin and Lady Fahrenheit.
What a HAWT match!
Ellie's word for the night is realpolitik.
"Go for it, camelot ... I mean, Ms Fahrenheit."
I think it's open.
but then again I'm not one of the cool kids
To me, Anne Hathaway is Red in Hoodwinked. What are you gonna do?
You enjoy showing up here and sucking the air out of the place.
Terry C - Obama/Biden 2008
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From the poster who uses 23 column inches to make a point. Like this...
Doesn't spoil anything for me... I like to see Elias thrash around.
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I don't know what everyone's so worried about. When Huggy Bear is president, he'll deregulate health care just like banking. Poof! no more problems!
Oh right, Anne Hathaway spent John McCain's birfday with Cindy and her criminal Italian boyfriend on a yacht.
Doug -- I used the photo of McCain't you linked to, yesterday.
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Oh right, Anne Hathaway spent John McCain's birfday with Cindy and her criminal Italian boyfriend on a yacht.
Le Jackel
Really? Shit.
Okay, then in that case, I'd hit it™, but I'd feel dirty afterwards.
From the poster who uses 23 column inches to make a point. Like this...
Elias
That's you've got.
Well, time for killfile.
Bye bye, twit!
Also, forget the SUPERTRAIN... we coulda gone to Mars 7 times with that dough!
Doesn't spoil anything for me... I like to see Elias thrash around.
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MisterX
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[jumps repeatedly, claps, giggles]
JP, I thought that pic looked like a old timey horror show villain.
I'm glad to see someone else liked it.
so, both parties want a taxpayer bailout for wallstreet?
who represents taxpayers?
there's way more irritating folk than Elias, actually
I think the Republicans are completely missing the opportunity. Think of all the hookers and blow you can buy with $700 billion!
Ha ha, what an idiotic play from LSU.
Hathaway's a McCain twit?????
Ecch!
Doug -- I used the photo of McCain't you linked to, yesterday.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Have you seen the "vampire-ized" version?
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I wonder if this whole globalization thingie was such a good thing after all.
I mean, now our economy is apparently based on Wall Street and its banks instead of manufacturing.
Of course, that would mean that Ross Perot was on to something, and I would have a hard time doing that.
Doug: JP, I thought that pic looked like a old timey horror show villain.
I'm glad to see someone else liked it.
It's the ol' "flashlight-under-the-chin-around-the-campfire" lighting angle. It's designed to look evil.
I'm amazed his "body people" let that shoot happen.
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run for the hills, run for your life...
there's way more irritating folk than Elias, actually
Killfile 'em all - let dog sort 'em out.
I thought Hathaway was a Clinton supporter, or at least a Dem.
so, both parties want a taxpayer bailout for wallstreet?
who represents taxpayers?
Yer on yer own, kid.
"Killfile 'em all - let dog sort 'em out."
fair enough except I don't killfile
Hey, I thought you Americans owned guns for situations like this...
WTF does this ad mean? Just seeing it on the main page.
ELECTION 2008
1. Choose your candidate.
2. Select your subsidized gas card and ZipCode.
HONEST POLLERS ONLY
Weird.
fair enough except I don't killfile
Pacifist!
Republicans are completely missing the opportunity. Think of all the hookers and blow you can buy with $700 billion!
"Sec. 8. Review.
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."
This section seems to cover that need for hookers and blow, without review.
(could a DC cop even arrest Treasury officials if they were using the funds for this?)
Sinf: Weird.
No. It's another one of those "complete the offer" deals, meaning you have to subscribe to three magazines, apply for two credit cards and join a DVD-of-the-month club to be eligible.
Then, you never get the gas card.
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It's the ol' "flashlight-under-the-chin-around-the-campfire" lighting angle. It's designed to look evil.
I'm amazed his "body people" let that shoot happen.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Well, it could have been worse.
Hey Sinf, when's your show? You should really try to promote more. Hell, I'll call in, if I'm conscious.
"Pacifist!"
ever see amazing grace and chuck?
I am NOT a pacifist
(could a DC cop even arrest Treasury officials if they were using the funds for this?)
Doug |
Sure, the cop could arrest an official, but the case could not be reviewed by any court of law. The judge would be forced to boot the case.
Annie H sounds like a Democrat to me:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/26/
anne-hathaways-politics-in-her-own-words-1/
Editor James Bennet said Greenberg behaved improperly and will not be paid for the session. He said the magazine is also considering a lawsuit.
that's gonna be a lot of money. educated guess, at least 30 grand. i'd say it's worth it.
tho i don't much care for the picture. my prof used to tell me "your using a chainsaw when you should be using a scalpel, your audience is sophisticated..."
of course when your being attacked with baseball bats...
of course when your being attacked with baseball bats...
charley
Yeah, I thought it was overkill too...
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Hey Sinf, when's your show? You should really try to promote more. Hell, I'll call in, if I'm conscious.
Le Jackel
Monday at 4pm EDT.
I'll try to be more of a self-promoter in the future.
I love my big ol' fuzzy buddy.
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So it wants to blame Clinton...well, sure...but be real...Neoliberalism hails back to the 1970's, the end of "the great compression" and perhaps the "Nixon Shock".
The financial problems we face are institutional in nature.
The political players have come and gone. They are but transitory elements to longtime institutional State Capitalism in the United States--privatized gains and socialized risk, subsidy for corporations and market discipline for the workers.
Finger-pointing at "left vs. right" or "Democrat vs. Republican" phantoms is a distraction for tiny minds.
I've never seen Anne Hathaway in anything (except trailers) but she never did anything for me -- looks too much like a boy (IMHO)
Why should celebrity political opinions mean anything? (I know they do, alas -- fact is, I can't stand Barbra Streisand as an actress or singer, but I agree with her politics -- pure coincidence -- "Every good thing that has ever happened in this country has come from liberals!")
Naomi Klein gets it, pretty much:
http://www.commondreams.org/view...ew/2008/09/20-
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I love my big ol' fuzzy buddy.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
NO FLIRTING.
Is Soprano here...?
If so, ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥!
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"looks too much like a boy"
This picture does not.
http://www.celebnewswire.com/
ann...ne_hathaway_get smart_underwear.jpg
I was trying to watch American Gangster......
Must violence be everywhere?
"Must violence be everywhere?"
yes, sorry
Why should celebrity political opinions mean anything?
Shouldn't, but it's a name you know that others will pay attention to.
Must violence be everywhere?
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yep.
Well, it could have been worse
They talk about McCain cant comb his own hair, how is fingers are messed up and cant use a computer, cant comb his own hair...
He doesnt seem to be having any problem using that cell phone.
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."
That's scary, they could use the cash to start a war with Iran, and nobody would have any legal power to find out.
Does this also mean that "decisions by the secretary" are secret?
yes, sorry
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Could we pretend for a while? I'm not up for reality today. A little 'village of make-believe' is good for a soul every now and then.
passerby: Does this also mean that "decisions by the secretary" are secret?
As my daddy used to say, "I'll give you three guesses, and the first two don't count."
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"BushCo's Fear in a Box! Get some today!
By GottaLaff
First, read my post down thread. Then read the following excerpts by Glenn Greenwald.
His piece is long, but so worth it. He starts with the premise that we've been bamboozled before (Iraq much?) based on the product we all buy into: Fear! Packaged as Iraq, it's got something for everyone! Blood! Guts! Heroism! Action! Impending Doom!
But wait! There's more! Fear and dread now come packaged as The Great Depression II! In this episode we have Wealth! Poverty! Meltdown! Loss! Financial Ruin! And yes, Impending Doom! Hurry up, Congress! Make a decision! The entire country depends on you! Yes folks, it's the Gullibility Hour, brought to you buy BushCo's Fear in a box! Get some today!"
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...some-
today.html
Like he says, the article is long but it is really well worth the read.
Decisions by me, me, me pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."
flummoxed yer tyranosaurus
The last Anne Hathaway picture didn't work, and I don't feel like tinyurling it.
This also does not look like a boy.
http://www.topnews.in/light/file...ne-
hathaway.jpg
Nor this one.
http://home.comcast.net/
~junjunb...Hathaway001.jpg
Just once I would like to be here without haloscan messing up.
At any rate, JP, that is a wonderful picture of Curly.
And Prior A, it's good to see you. We rarely are on board at the same time.
Sweet. FSU cuts the deficit in half, now 6-3 Wake Forest. Boring as hell game, but if FSU can pull this one out, they'll be lucky as hell, too.
"Could we pretend for a while?"
sure.
I'd just like to thank Doug for his selfless service to America.
Must violence be everywhere?
camelot/ms fahrenheit
Yes
Doug -- that link did not work for me (just saying)
Diane C.: At any rate, JP, that is a wonderful picture of Curly.
Thank you, m'deah. Sometimes I get lucky.
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Doug's original link is here:
http://tinyurl.com/3zgeux
Sometimes I get lucky.
Salacious details?
Diane C. Barking-Mad
ditto -- hope U R well -- I might be in Anaheim next year for General Convention -- any possibility of meeting in meat space?
My newish-fave of L.E. is here.
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That's scary, they could use the cash to start a war with Iran, and nobody would have any legal power to find out.
Does this also mean that "decisions by the secretary" are secret?
passerby | 09.20.08 - 9:21 pm
As long as his conversations aren't picked up by the newly legal domestic wiretapping program.
"Bailout Principles - Senator Bernie Sanders
by WattleBreakfast
Sat Sep 20, 2008 at 04:28:56 PM PDT
There has only, at the time of my composing this diary, been one post mentioning Bernie Sanders and his Op-ed concerning the proposed Treasury bailout, published on Friday.
Senator Bernie Sanders has been at the front lines of leading on this crisis, from the beginning. He has spoken with an independent voice and is shouting to the rafters what follows. Please hear it.
Excerpt is as follows:
(1) The people who can best afford to pay and the people who have benefited most from Bush’s economic policies are the people who should provide the funds for the bailout....
a) Impose a five-year, 10 percent surtax on income over $1 million a year for couples and over $500,000 for single taxpayers. That would raise more than $300 billion in revenue;...
c) Require that taxpayers receive equity stakes in the bailed-out companies so that the assumption of risk is rewarded when companies’ stock goes up.(2) There must be a major economic recovery package which puts Americans to work at decent wages. (3) Legislation must be passed which undoes the damage caused by excessive de-regulation. That means reinstalling the regulatory firewalls that were ripped down in 1999. That means re-regulating the energy markets so that we never again see the rampant speculation in oil that helped drive up prices. That means regulating or abolishing various financial instruments that have created the enormous shadow banking system that is at the heart of the collapse of AIG and the financial services meltdown.
(4) We must end the danger posed by companies that are "too big too fail," that is, companies whose failure would cause systemic harm to the U.S. economy. If a company is too big to fail, it is too big to exist."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20.../829/107/
605018
Say, that Bernie Sanders fella is pretty smart.
jc in ky: Salacious details?
It usually involves holding very still, and engaging the auto-shot feature, which compares badly to a motor drive in a film camera. Snap a lot of shots as fast as possible, and use the best of the series.
My camera takes about 0.6-0.8 seconds between shutter trips, though.
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Shit. Now 9-3, Wake.
FSU can haz touchdown drive now? Pleeze?
let's not forget, obama wants *more* military $pending.
ESPN reported paying $2.25 Billion for broadcast rights of SEC football games beginning in the 2009 season and running through the fiscal year 2025.
ditto -- hope U R well -- I might be in Anaheim next year for General Convention -- any possibility of meeting in meat space?
Prior Aelred
Absolutely!
I can't think of a better excuse for taking Amtrak's Pacific Surfliner. You just let me know when.
OWLS
Say, that Bernie Sanders fella is pretty smart.
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I was justa thinkin that very thing...
I've been thinking, this isn't going to be $700B of taxpayer money. That's already spent and then some. This is going to be $700B added on to the current defecit. So its being borrowed. i.e. $700B more T-bills will need to be sold. To whom? Are China or the Saudis going to be interested?
This is kind of like the base head that owes you a ton of money and he promises if you just front him one more ounce to sell then he can raise the money to pay you back. At some point you just tell him to fuck off.
FSU can haz touchdown drive now? Pleeze?
Sinf, awaiting knee surgery
do a tomahawk chop or something.
Monday at 4pm EDT.
I'll try to be more of a self-promoter in the future.
Dude, now I got to translate that EDT thingy into universal transverse mercador stuff and set my alarm clock.
SUPERTRAINS? Naw they should go with atomic Buses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?
v=PhlivTeB1zY
From the 1976 Stockard Channing Spoof comedy...
It actually will be more than $700 billion.
Once some of the mortgages are paid back they can relend the money to the max of $700 billion.
Oh, and Krugman? Unfortunately, it ain't up to yo, pal. Its up to Congress, and I'm sure they'll pull Bush's cock out of their mouths long enough to say, "Deal".
Good grief. Is there any doubt (any whatsoever) that these sales of distressed properties are going to go for fractions of a cent on the dollar, to Republican insiders? These fuckers are emptying the Treasury, jamming their offshore banks with filthy lucre (our filthy lucre, at that) and will waltz away, leaving us to pick up the tab.
Tar and feathers time, folks.
Diane -- will do - hoping to stay on a bit to visit my cousin & his family in Riverside as well
That Bernie Sanders is pretty smart -- he ought to be in Congress
Sinf -- bad knees are caused by smoking cigars (FB profile pic ref)
To whom? Are China or the Saudis going to be interested?
Iraq will be selling oil in dollars..just saying.
Organized money (crime)
Unlike America, Italians are not naïve about the corrupt forces controlling their government. Organized money is making a run on the American people in the final months of the Bush administration. In other words, the pig wants one more lavish feast at the trough.
Pelosi - We need to keep our powder dry
Reid - We need to keep our powder dry
$700 Billion could fund 1400 12 mile long light rail lines (using $500 million number from the one being built in the Twin Cities) or 14 12 mile long light rail lines in each of the nations 100 largest metro areas. Wow, that would a step in the right direction for oil independence. Think about how much money that would pump into the economy. That would create thousands or tens of thousands of well-paying jobs. Seriously help with the development of immense swaths of our cities. But sadly no, we're just going to through it down the black hole, never to be heard from again. Ship it all off to Bermuda or Switzerland or China or Saudi Arabia or wherever the Ultra-rich keep their money these days.
Property Maintenance
Another big issue being ignored in this whole "bail out" fiasco is how will the federal government maintain the assets it will be holding. As bad as these assets are now, they will simply deteriorate rapidly without money to keep them up.
As these assets lose value they will drive down the value of other assets in the surrounding area further costing the American taxpayers.
Found the link for that Anne Hathaway picture:
http://www.celebnewswire.com/
ann...t_underwear.jpg
Gilly Gonzylon | 09.20.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Ah, yes, "dry powder" and keepin' it dry, too!
So, Pelosi and Reid have a cunning plan after all.
Or, as Oliver Hardy said to Stan Laurel, "This is another fine mess you've gotten me into."
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