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Just you and me, fokowi
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Atrios keeps track of the Hugo?
Who knew???
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Just you and me, fokowi
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i'm yours, darlin'...
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Congrats!
OT: Atrios, please post more sumptuous dish pictures soon. Thanks!
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US military refers to Moqtada al-Sadr's word of honor.
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Vernor Vinge? He of the huge arachnoid intelligent-being protagonists?
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BTW, kids, last chance for the summer jukebox!
They're selling Xmas decorations in CostCo already... which reminds me: gotta start work on my Saturnalia cards.
Io, Saturnalia!!!
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Deadthreaded...
not saying he does, but at those prices and somewhat difficult installation parameters i think i'd rather just buy the band.
jdw
Music typically doesn't go below 20 Hz... that puppy is for home theatre.
For music, get these
Their sound beats the hell out of speakers that are more than 3 times their price.
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Yay! Who is that guy?
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Patrick Nielsen Hayden has edited a lot of Ben Bova's recent books.
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News from Yokohama
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I'm so out of touch with science fiction I don't know anybody writing/editing anymore.
I quite when Harlan Ellison ran out of things to say, and Bradbury got old and started repeating himself. I'm stuck in a time-loop when it comes to this genre.
Oh, well, plenty of 19th century and early 20th century stuff to catch up on. And then there's the Greek stuff I never got around to....
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Perhaps Atrios Knows Mr. Hayden personally? Or is there some other reason that he among all the other winners is of particular significance?
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$1899 per pair. I'll have to let it go a while.
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Best Professional Artist: Donato Giancola
I believe he lives in my 'hood ... met him at a group show a couple of years ago ... from the little bit of his work that I saw there, he's really great.
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i love Ken MacLeod's novels 
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simels ...
Still there? For you and the power poppers ... cover story about Rick Rubin in tomorrow's NYT mag.
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Yay! Who is that guy?
TV's "Doogie Howser"!
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Perhaps Mr. Hayden is editing Atrios' own upcoming book? Wonder what the title will be?
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It's 1971 on the 10@10 marathon!
Up now - Graham Nash's "Chicago"!
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"Stoopit Troll Saga."
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$1899 per pair. I'll have to let it go a while.
plantsman
Oh, it'll cost you far more than that, because once you have these you'll hear every flaw in the rest of your system.....
Thank dog for used gear.
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Marcellina, wonder why mimi's been snuggling up to you?
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Congrats to Patrick Nielsen Hayden.
Doogie Howser?
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For you and the power poppers ... cover story about Rick Rubin in tomorrow's NYT mag.
Wow, I got excited for a minute there... I thought you said Rick and Ruby!
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I'm really digging The Baroque Cycle, FWIW. It's not reallt Sci Fi at all, but Neal Stephenson just seems to get better and better as a writer. He was always great at coming up with cool plots, but now his characters are getting really good too. And the amount of historical research he appears to have done is just stunning. Almost every page there's some great little nugget, like the origin of the word "schlock".
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I'll take a Coke Zero, TKK...
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Mexican Coke Zero has cyclamates!
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1971 on 10@10... segueing from "Chicago" to "Inner City Blues".
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Damn you, Trademark Dave!
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Neal Stephenson just seems to get better and better as a writer.
Well, from Snowcrash there's nowhere to go but up.
*ducks*
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Mexican Coke Zero has cyclamates!
Splenda makes cyclamates look like a PUSSY!
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I'm really digging The Baroque Cycle, FWIW. It's not reallt Sci Fi at all, but Neal Stephenson just seems to get better and better as a writer. He was always great at coming up with cool plots, but now his characters are getting really good too. And the amount of historical research he appears to have done is just stunning. Almost every page there's some great little nugget, like the origin of the word "schlock".
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it is a very nice trilogy of books, and the historical detail is quite nice
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Glen Greenwald reminds us at his blog:
For four years, before Congress legalized it, the Bush administration freely spied on the conversations of Americans with no warrants or oversight of any kind. Despite the fact that the law made it a felony to do that, we still have no idea whose conversations they surveilled and what they did with the information. And unlike the Congress in 1975 which aggressively investigated such matters, the current Congress has demonstrated very little interest in finding out.
Why were politicians in both parties willing to impose the requirement of warrants on the Executive Branch's surveillance powers in the 1970s, at the height of the Cold War when the Soviet Union had thousands of nuclear-tipped warheads pointed at our cities, yet are so afraid (or unwilling) now simply to maintain that same requirement?
I call it the supine congress; and the dems are wondering why the support for them is waning. Is the excuse that there are too many border dems who wont go along. Maybe border dems are suffering Broder syndrome and dont realize that America hates this war and America thinks this president is an incompetent sycophant. Only Bush could be sycophant to himself--he is that callow and has no self-awareness.
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Coke Zero ... just had it the other day. Way better than Diet Coke. But I know that stuff is gonna kill me.
The Rubin thing is about him working at Columbia, a borg with which I have more than a passing familiarity (no, it's not my current borg). A relatively fucked-up place to work, though. I wonder how he will do there?
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Eh, I don't know, Plantsman. I guess she hopes to win over some friends before the next big blow up. I tend to avoid explosive people for the sake of my own mental health and so I'd rather go into lurk mode than converse and get sucked in.
You were my hero the other day, though, with your melt-down post. Good for you!
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Fact is
I can't pay my
Taxes...
It wasn't all social consciousness on "What's Goin' On"!
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Ken MacLeod's The Execution Channel is an excellent book!!!
check out The Star Fraction as well 
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"Stoopit Troll Saga."
plantsman, areligious
It's never-ending.
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*ducks*
Yah, well it was certainly not the most brilliant exposition of complex characters. But for my money it was actually better than the much-ballyhooed Neuromancer. At least the conception of cyberspace they had in Snowcrash made some kind of sense.
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"Stoopit Troll Saga."
plantsman, areligious
I love the moppet meltdowns.
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You were my hero the other day, though, with your melt-down post. Good for you!
Marcellina
Damn. Missed it.
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Coke Zero ... just had it the other day. Way better than Diet Coke.
I have a relative who works for Coke. He said the Coke Zero formula is a reverse engineering of the original sugared Coke formula - kinda the backwards way they came up with "new Coke".
Regular "Diet Coke", btw, is based on that "New Coke" formula, apparently...
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Well, from Snowcrash there's nowhere to go but up.
*ducks*
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His first book, the earth firster novel, was great. What I've seen of the later ones was boring.
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a big bloody mary is providing me with some of the necessary elements that my system requires this am.
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It was fun, demonstrating the "institutional memory" of a comments thread. Gal is crazy.
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I quit when Harlan Ellison ran out of things to say, and Bradbury got old and started repeating himself.
It was all over for me when Jules Verne sold out to Disney, frankly...
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Is the excuse that there are too many border dems who wont go along. Maybe border dems are suffering Broder syndrome and dont realize that America hates this war and America thinks this president is an incompetent sycophant.
I think the reason is that there are too many Dems who are Dem in name only and would be much more comfortable as Republicans if it weren't for the American Taliban element over there.
We need to get rid of them.
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At least the conception of cyberspace they had in Snowcrash made some kind of sense.
blerb
I expect that Science Fiction not fuck up the science that badly. That's also what got Orson Scott Card on my shit list.
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Despite the fact that the law made it a felony to do that, we still have no idea whose conversations they surveilled and what they did with the information.
Lotsa Democrats, I'll bet.
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Good morning, dear friends!
Buffet table features late summer fruit, fresh bagels and croissants, coffee, and lots and lots of Bloody Marys 
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We need to get rid of them.
I'd rather win them over. How can we do that?
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Orson Scott Card sucked me in by mentioning places I knew - but his whacked-out Xianity drove me firmly away.
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It was like a sit-com! ql and molly ivors coming out of the kitchen pantry they were hiding in while she was here, and then she returns to confront them with snark. Plantsman very politely put her in her place later when she showed up again as if nothing had happened.
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Somehow these virtual buffet tables only make me hungrier.
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Morning, Moonbats! Back from collecting signatures to get Hillary on the ballot. Two hours of standing on asphalt and my old broken ankle didn't swell at all! It's a gorgeous day!
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a big bloody mary is providing me with some of the necessary elements that my system requires this am.
fokowi at lake cabin
Had a party at the lake cabin last night, did we?
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Hecate, darling, wouldn't you like a nice Bloody after that? 
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The lake cabin is the place to be!
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but his whacked-out Xianity drove me firmly away.
plantsman, areligious
He subsumes the science to his ideology, just like any other whack-job.
Stephenson.. after Snowcrash I wouldn't trust his "historical is=nsights", as he evidently doesn't have any.
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Breakfast!
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.I expect that Science Fiction not fuck up the science that badly. That's also what got Orson Scott Card on my shit list.
JR, kerosene and a match
You're a biologist too, right? Biology has got to be the most often-mangled scinece in sci-fi. I have yet to see a good novel that handles it in any way that makes sense, even when written by an author who is otherwise very science-savvy. When Kim Stanley Robinson was electroporating whole people ni Red Mars, I just about threw the book at the wall. Maybe John Varley. Some of his biological ideas rang true to me. But alas he hasn't written anything in ages.....
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a big bloody mary is providing me with some of the necessary elements that my system requires this am.
fokowi at lake cabin
Sounds really good, but I'm determined to take care of a couple of things around the house before I get settled in to waste the afternoon.
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I re-read Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomocion and enjoyed it even more.
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Back from collecting signatures to get Hillary on the ballot.
Is this in Virginia?
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I'd rather win them over. How can we do that?
Snow, Liberal
I don't know as that that's possible. Some of them may become better behaved as the consequences of their treachery becomes more obvious -- Ellen Tauscher may be going that route -- but that'll be sheer political calculus and not any real change in core beliefs.
Some of them are just hopeless, I think, and need to go.
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Good morning, dear friends!
Buffet table features late summer fruit, fresh bagels and croissants, coffee, and lots and lots of Bloody Marys
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mind if i use that piano bench over in the corner? i promise i won't spill on it.
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It's a gorgeous day!
Hecate
I've already walked the dog and bottle the wine.
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Back from collecting signatures to get Hillary on the ballot.
You'll do anything to piss off Simels, won't you?
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Sallyh,
I would love one! Merci!! Brought some tomatoes and banana peppers back from the farmers' market, and I'm going to make a salad in a bit.
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I actually heard some winger talkshow guy subbing for Rush yesterday trotting out the whole FDR gave Eastern Europe to Stalin thing.
I for one await the New McCarthyism waiting in the wings when Iraq totally goes to hell.
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"We need to get rid of them."
I'd rather win them over. How can we do that?
You can't.
This has been...
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well got a phone call from an old friend of mine, tonight its my town's carnival (the whitess carnival on record :lol for a couple of drinks and generally catch up.
so am happy
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Lotsa Laffs at my blog
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Anyone seen the Magic Masseur Djinn ?
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Back from collecting signatures to get Hillary on the ballot.
You'll do anything to piss off Simels, won't you?
One guy who signed said, "I'm mainly doing this to piss off my co-workers who hate her." I thought of steve!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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Back from collecting signatures to get Hillary on the ballot.
In Washington State, they're collecting ballots to put Our Al on the ballot.
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fokowi, the piano bench is fine. Have a little hair o' the dog that bit you 
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Marcellina, around what age are you? Because you act like my mother.
Plantsman, you too.
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More on Mother's Milk [David Freddoso]
One definition of liberalism is the propensity to expand government by discovering problems, imposing solutions that make them worse, and then proposing solutions to those worse problems that will make them worse still. This looks like the problem we have with breastfeeding:
I'm guessing you're some kind of male. Breastfeeding won't work for you.
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You're a biologist too, right?
Just a biology "fan".
Biology has got to be the most often-mangled science in sci-fi.
Oh yeah.
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Not sure if it is art but I like it!
Bong-Ra Can You Dig it
Parental Guidance is Suggested.
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simels,
I put a Power Pop related link for you upthread.
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So, kids, next Saturday - the big "Meet and Greet" with res ipsa, watertiger, and JeffCo in North Beach. Sign in here, please!
BTW, we may get an appearance from Spocko!
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No, I'm sure I am much younger.
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plantsman,
Yes, Virginia. All the candidates have to get 10,000 to get on the ballot.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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Richard Morgan also good as is Alistair Reynolds
and Kathleen Ann Goonan
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One guy who signed said, "I'm mainly doing this to piss off my co-workers who hate her." I thought of steve!
Awwwwwwwwwwww... group hug, people!
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Had a party at the lake cabin last night, did we?
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we did indeed....
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One guy who signed said, "I'm mainly doing this to piss off my co-workers who hate her." I thought of steve!
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Believe me, when she loses -- despite my vote for her -- I'm not going to enjoy telling everybody I told you so.
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I'd rather win them over. How can we do that?
Snow, Liberal
I don't know as that that's possible.
Alas, WWII seems to have taught us that when people are thoroughly brainwashed with some kind of ultra-cheauvanistic ideology, the only real cure for it is to destroy their civilization utterly. "Unsere mauern brechen, unsere hertzen nicht!" The importance of believing in the fragile skein of lies that holds their worldview together overrides all other considerations, even physical self-preservation. It is a tragic aspect of human nature. Maybe we'll come up with a pill to cure it someday, like antipsychotic meds.
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UK General: Interlectually bankrupt!
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mimi dear, if you're lucky enough, you'll get older, too. But I wouldn't count on it if I were you.
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I actually heard some winger talkshow guy subbing for Rush yesterday trotting out the whole FDR gave Eastern Europe to Stalin thing.
There's a great way to capture a new generation of listeners. Rant on about issues for which they have absolutely no understanding nor interest.
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I'm not going to enjoy telling everybody I told you so.
Yeah, right.
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Some of them are just hopeless, I think, and need to go.
flory
Hartmann has been recommending something I think is worth a shot: Rather than exclusively responding with hostility and telling them they're history, we might also let our reps know we have their back and will support them for doing the right thing.
Seems worth a shot (although some of them doubtless need to find more productive things to do elsewhere).
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Can Al be added to a ballot without his participation? Could he, theoretically, be elected president without declaring?
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what did some talkshow guy expect FDR to do?
invade Eastern Europe?
the fat tosser has no comprehension at all
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Craig, what made you think your fellow wingnuts would stand by you? Didn't you hear Hot Tub Tom say that the GOP moves quckly to banish its undesirables?
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fokowi, the piano bench is fine. Have a little hair o' the dog that bit you
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a little... my cigar bothering anyone?
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Did Craig step down yet?
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Had a party at the lake cabin last night, did we?
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we did indeed....
fokowi at lake cabin
So all our invitations got lost in the mail?
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i don't get why wingnuts are so hung up about it
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res ipsa:
Thanks for the Rick Rubin link...
very interesting indeedy.
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"I'm not going to enjoy telling everybody I told you so."
Yeah, right.
Really, the sincerity was so transparent...
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i don't get why wingnuts are so hung up about it
Moonbootica
because winguts are defined by their hangups. Without them, there is no thing there.
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Eastern Europe under Communism was bleak and grim. But the American citizenry did not have the will to invade and "liberate" it.
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Rmj, I hope you are still here; I am enjoying reading your lecture on hospitality. Very solid, an excellent argument!
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it was a spur of the moment thing. i came in here a couple of times to let you all know, but couldn't get a fucking word in edgewise...
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New photoshop superhero done by yours truly:
Dita von Teese as Catwoman
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Regarding FDR: this was from earlier:
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again, The Paranoid Style In American Politics has something apposite to say:
"He sees his country as being so weak that it is constantly about to fall victim to subversion; and yet he feels that it is so all-powerful that any failure it may experience in getting its way in the world - for instance, in the Orient [read middle east for the current crisis] - cannot possibly be due to its limitations but must be attributed to its having been betrayed"
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we might also let our reps know we have their back and will support them for doing the right thing.
Seems worth a shot (although some of them doubtless need to find more productive things to do elsewhere).
V for Virginia
I think most of the blogs are pretty good about reminding people to do just that.
Some of the DINOs have never done anything to deserve a pat on the back.
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The EVENT in Boise is scheduled to happen in about an hour.
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BTW, in case you missed it yesterday, the founder of Peet's coffee died yesterday.
Another stop on res ipsa's Berserkely tour...
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i don't get why wingnuts are so hung up about it
This article by Kevin Baker explains all
PS Fulham scores!
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The International Marxist Group remembered
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PS Fulham scores!
A bloke I know in Berlin will be cheering right now.
Gotta head off to work, later folks.
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That Kevin Baker article TKK just put up is terrific.
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I'm not going to enjoy telling everybody I told you so.
Yeah, right.
plantsman, areligious | 09.01.07 - 11:38 am | #
I'm totally serious. I think her candidacy is an (avertible) tragedy in the making, but I take no joy in believing that.
When she loses, I'm gonna be crying, not gloating.
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There's a stylin' little Peet's Coffee just over in Lake NoNegro......I mean, Lake Oswego.
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Can Al be added to a ballot without his participation? Could he, theoretically, be elected president without declaring?
Marcellina
Some states can. All? I dunno. Probably not.
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bye for now 
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Eastern Europe under Communism was bleak and grim. But the American citizenry did not have the will to invade and "liberate" it.
plantsman, areligious
When I wuz in Rooshia all the locals had very unflattering things to say about self-righteous Americans asking them how much better life was now that they were "free".
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the founder of Peet's coffee died yesterday.
I will drink a cup of mud in his honor.
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Don Asmussen - Bad Reporter and the Clown Shoes.
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Bye, Moon; thanks for the author talk!
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BTW, in case you missed it yesterday, the founder of Peet's coffee died yesterday.
Drinkin' a cup right now.
(Sallyh, I'll take one of those Bloodys next, thanks!)
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Another stop on res ipsa's Berserkely tour...
dave™©
The original?
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I am slowly coming around to the point of view that Hillary looks so weak right now against the leading GOP candidates mostly because all of her negatives have been thoroughly trammeled into the American cosciousness, while all of her GOP challengers are still mostly (by comparison, anyway) unknown quantities. From that perspective, she basically has nowhere to go but up from where she is now.
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Remember Don Dedera, GWPDA; used to be a columnist in The Arizona Republic , I think?
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There's a stylin' little Peet's Coffee just over in Lake NoNegro......I mean, Lake Oswego.
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Is that common? Cracked me up. But remember, everywhere in portland is convenient to Wanker's Corner.
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I am slowly coming around to the point of view that Hillary looks so weak right now against the leading GOP candidates .....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA!!! 
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OK, off to launder some things and scrub other things.
ttyl, batses.
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can i have one of those in a go cup? thanks, you're a doll...
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Hillary's complaints about Maliki and the pupper Iraq government are morally unacceptable and political dynamite in the hands of her eventual GOP opponent. Her idiotic lauding of the Anbar tactics are the same. All of that will come back to haunt her in the general campaign.
And her staff is generally stupid.
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Used to be common; a landscaper I know with many Dunthorpe accounts uses it all the time -- this is my first time.
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http://tinyurl.com/yuptl4
condi rice wants to go back to Stanford but apparently trashing the consitution and lying about killing brown people and stealing their oil and just being a lying toady in general gets you on everybody;s shit list!
karma bitch(es)!
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Buzzy, yes, Bloodys are a necessity on a long weekend 
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And her staff is generally stupid.
rootless2
They are nasty, however, and that's probably a plus.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA!!!
Well, one must take hope and solace from SOMEWHERE, no?
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est Professional Editor (Long Form): Patrick Nielsen Hayden (W00t!) (Tor)
PNH is w00t?
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Also congrats to the cast and crew of Doctor Who, for a well deserved Hugo for "The Girl in the Fireplace." I've never watched a show that left me with such a longing for something that could never be.
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Used to be common; a landscaper I know with many Dunthorpe accounts uses it all the time -- this is my first time.
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The original?
Walnut and Vine - it's still there!
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Aw, poor Condi:
Ms. Rice is rarely, if ever, self-reflective. But in an interview with The New York Times this month, she acknowledged, ever so obliquely, that her first four years working for the Bush administration were not her best.
“I don’t know; if that’s the assessment, you know, I’ll accept people’s assessment,” she said, her demeanor resigned. “The national security adviser is a great job, because you’re very close to the president; you’re working with him, but it’s also a very difficult job because everything is by remote control. You do not own any of the assets.”
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plantsman, I take care of myself.
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Did Craig step down yet?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
He's supposed to be giving up his seat but apparently he's stalling again.
(I'll never get tired of these jokes)
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They are nasty, however, and that's probably a plus.
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Did you see the clip of her advisor on the O'Reilly show defending participation in Yearly Kos? He was unprepared, weak, bulliable - totally qualified to be a senator.
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He's supposed to be giving up his seat but apparently he's stalling again.

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Portland is pretty white, the large influx of African-Americans to work in the WW2 shipyards was geographically segregated into North Portland and a place called Vanport, which no longer really exists.
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Fulham scores a totally WTF?!?! OMG!?!?! type goal!!!
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she basically has nowhere to go but up from where she is now.
blerb
i might have agreed with you at the start of her senate term, or even as recently as a year or two ago. but her stubborn refusal to even admit her pro war votes were mistakes- that i cannot excuse, and increasingly, a lot of other voters can't either. she needs to correct that to win.
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Hecate, I don't imagine she'll be welcomed back at Stanford.
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Did Craig step down yet?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
He will. He just had to stop in the men's room
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mimi, you're also rude and ageist, and time will have it's way with you, no matter what you've planned.
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the scent of concern is in the air and the smells like victory to me - Hillary beats them all and the leading reukkke candidate is romney??? mormon doeg torturer serial liar flip flopper - there's a great vid of him at TPM pandering at a conservative hate/coffee klatch - he's disgusting and he's their best
The trick for the Dems is try and find a way to niminate their best asopposed to the group think most electable because this time around they are all electable - the repukkkes are proven liars, thieves, violaters of the US constitution and perverts
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Sallyh,
I hope that she's never welcomed anywhere. She deserves to be scorned for the rest of her miserable, lonely, in-the-closet existence.
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Walnut and Vine - it's still there!
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Yep. I stop in when I'm up that way.
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Hecate, agreed.
Maybe she and Chimpy and Laura can find a place in Paraguay and live happily ever after.
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my spelling is ridiculous this morning! what time is it?
4:20!
Figures!
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Well, the living room looks thoroughly played in.
Now, if I can only train the dog to put the carpet back...
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Well, the living room looks thoroughly played in.
Welcome to my world.
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Fulham 3
Tottenham 3
Final
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I remember Don Dedera - isn't he writing murder mysteries these days?
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I hope that she's never welcomed anywhere. She deserves to be scorned for the rest of her miserable, lonely, in-the-closet existence.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
She'll get a nice sinecure at the Hoover Institution. And get back on a few corporate Boards.
But I'll bet large sums that she doesn't make a killing on the speakers circuit. The wingnut audience prolly isn't very interested in hearing what a female, black non-entity has to say.
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Ms. Rice is rarely, if ever, self-reflective. But in an interview with The New York Times this month, she acknowledged, ever so obliquely, that her first four years working for the Bush administration were not her best.
she and colin powell were always window dressing. they never took powell's advice and her area of expertise was the Soviet Union which might have come in handy 20 or so years ago
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Craig's press conference to be broadcast live on MSNBC @ 12:30 Eastern.
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i think condi will land on her feet. she may not be welcome in decent circles, but wingnut welfare is a phat deal these days, and she's still their fav lil house nigger. she'll go on the lecture circuit at 10K a pop and visit prominent republican fundraising homes, like a celebrity.
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sally, thanks for the bloody ones.
i'm just gonna pound out a little tune on the ivories before i leave... called 'the riddle'.
There was a man back in '95
Whose heart ran out of summers
But before he died, I asked him
Wait, what's the sense in life
Come over me, Come over me
He said,
Son why you got to sing that tune
Catch a Dylan song or some eclipse of the moon
Let an angel swing and make you swoon
Then you will see... You will see
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plantsman, not true about the ageism. You never hear me saying a bad thing about my grand-ma.
She does a lot of gardening, so she doesn't have to start quarrels to entertain herself.
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Hillary consistently beats the top 3 Goopers in match-up polls over the last several months.
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And in 1968 everybody knew Richard Nixon couldn't get elected dogcatcher.
Sorry. Hillary has positioned herself as the Only Sort of Against the War candidate, just like Humphrey, and she's gonna lose as a result.
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but her stubborn refusal to even admit her pro war votes were mistakes- that i cannot excuse, and increasingly, a lot of other voters can't either. she needs to correct that to win.
chicago dyke
To win for you, maybe. But if this election were about convincing people like you to vote for her, we'd be living in a very different country today. "a lot of other voters" is very unlikely to amount to a decisive margin AFAICT, especially if the alternative is going to be the likes of Mitt Romney.
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So, old folks should be seen and not heard?
Nice.
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Well -- cd and I are not in agreement over Condi's future on the speaker circuit.
Wanna have a bet?......
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I don't follow Dedera; his first wife was my mom's best friend and committed suicide as he philandered and their marriage fell apart.
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plantsman, I take care of myself.
Yes, you infallible people do quite for yourselves.
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UNE posted something in a comment thread at TBogg's place 45 mins ago. So I guess he's still alive. Just not talking to us.

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Yes, you infallible people do quite for yourselves.
Snow
Libertarian disease.
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Then he said,
Here's a riddle for you
Find the Answer
There's a reason for the world
You and I...
Picked up my kid from school today
Did you learn anything cause in the world today
You can't live in a castle far away
Now talk to me, come talk to me
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aiight....there's a farmers market calling my name.
Laterz bats.
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And in 1968 everybody knew Richard Nixon couldn't get elected dogcatcher
I believe that was a post-resignation sentiment and not one associated with 1968, but I stand ready to be corrected if a link can be provided. And he had to have RFK assasinated to win that one, too.
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He said,
Dad I'm big but we're smaller than small
In the scheme of things, well we're nothing at all
Still every mother's child sings a lonely song
So play with me, come play with me
And Hey Dad
Here's a riddle for you
Find the Answer
There's a reason for the world
You and I...
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Son why you got to sing that tune
Catch a Dylan song or some eclipse of the moon
Let an angel swing and make you swoon
Then you will see... You will see
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I love that song -- posted it the homepage a while back.
Guys a winger, but it's still gorgeous.
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i've got a dollar, flory. what are the terms?
you folks just watch. the war will go on, and disgust will set in. by this time next year, when another 0000 american soldiers are dead and we've lost baghdad, being "only sort of anti war" will keep a lot of her potential voters home. it's going to get worse before it gets worse in iraq, and only a fool would want to be left as the last democrat on joe lieberman's team.
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Hecate has mail 
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Start quarrels? "Supermodel", heal thyself; I can cite numerous instances of you attacking and trashing people for no reason -- people like Moe, Molly Ivors, me, and others. Own your own anti-social behavior and stop lying, mimi -- I'm not letting you pretend to be nice.
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wingnut welfare is a phat deal these days, and she's still their fav lil house n(word)
so true chicago d-word (cue Homer's girlish giggle) - anyone here ever consider writing a lying bunch of crap to sell to right wing nutjobs and retire shortly thereafter? Anyone want to team up and try it?
I never got over the revisionist view of mccarthy that the anorexic lying blonde turned into a best seller. Disgusting!
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http://www.comcast.net/sports/
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They're bitching at someone for READING????
WTF!
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Don't resign, Larry. Make Gov. Beaver arrest you for unbecoming conduct.
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They're bitching at someone for READING????
WTF!
Terry C
Reading is elitist.
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anyone here ever consider writing a lying bunch of crap to sell to right wing nutjobs and retire shortly thereafter? Anyone want to team up and try it?
What if it sells and people believe it?
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plantsman, I know you're looking for a target for all that free-floating anxiety and frustration, but it ain't going to be me

and you're sexier when you smile
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And he had to have RFK assasinated to win that one, too.
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i'm too young to really know, but surely hillary is nothing like RFK.
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I never got over the revisionist view of mccarthy that the anorexic lying blonde turned into a best seller. Disgusting!
how many did she kill?
I wonder if Manny Annie has heard that McCarthy's marriage was a whole beard thing because there were rumours about his being teh gay?
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Son for all I've told you
When you get right down to the
Reason for the world...
Who am I?
There are secrets that we still have left to find
There have been mysteries from the beginning of time
There are answers we're not wise enough to see
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mimi = moppet?
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mimi, you don't know shit about me.
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He said... You looking for a clue I Love You free...
The batter swings and the summer flies
As I look into my angel's eyes
A song plays on while the moon is hiding over me
Something comes over me
I guess we're big and I guess we're small
If you think about it man you know we got it all
Cause we're all we got on this bouncing ball
And I love you free
I love you freely
Here's a riddle for you
Find the Answer
There's a reason for the world
You and I...
fokowi at lake cabin |
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How come Tom Tancredo does not get any respect from Atrios?
He tried so hard to get the Wanker OD award, but Atrios remains inexplicably unmoved in his undisclosed location.
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plantsman, I know you're looking for a target for all that free-floating anxiety and frustration, but it ain't going to be me
Nope. You'll just lie then pretend it never happened. But ignorance isn't bliss when it is intentional.
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i'm too young to really know, but surely hillary is nothing like RFK.
chicago dyke
I remember that June day in 1968.
I was a sophomore in high school, and my Mom woke me up to tell me what happened.
Coming so close after MLK's assassination.........damn!
Bobby could be ruthless, but he had a heart.
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I know it won't happen, but I wish Craig would say, "I'm gay. I was wrong to whip up hatred for gays in order to stay in power. Republicans are hypocrites who will do anything to stay in power. They've hounded me out for being gay but are fine with Vitter whoring around in diapers. Here's a list of prominent Republicans who are gay: . . . ."
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UNE posted something in a comment thread at TBogg's place 45 mins ago. So I guess he's still alive. Just not talking to us.
The Kenosha Kid
NOT TRUE! I told youse guys awhile back, he's taken on several new jobs, is terribly busy, misses everybody and will be back soon as he can. And he's glad you lost your hat.
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plantsman, try it, you might like smiling 
you too Snow 
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Wow, Hecate. I'm impressed at your ability to type like that while sleeping.
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Pukechanan was just on TV saying Craig believes himself to be "a normal, heterosexual guy." Pat has inadvertantly identified a problem.
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I know it won't happen, but I wish Craig would say, "I'm gay. I was wrong to whip up hatred for gays in order to stay in power. Republicans are hypocrites who will do anything to stay in power. They've hounded me out for being gay but are fine with Vitter whoring around in diapers. Here's a list of prominent Republicans who are gay: . . . ."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:10 pm | #
Sigh. That would be nice, wouldn't it? Hypocrisy has become just so tiresome with these people.
But, I guess it pays the bills.
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I remember that June day in 1968.
I was a sophomore in high school, and my Mom woke me up to tell me what happened.
Coming so close after MLK's assassination.........damn!
Bobby could be ruthless, but he had a heart.
It was evening. I was asked to go down to the Ambassador Hotel with Dave Bender, who was working as a runner for the family, for the celebration - my Mum decided she needed me for something so I didn't. I remember it very well indeed.
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TBogg also just got back from taking his daughter to her first day at college - in Hawaii!
dave™© |
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rorschach, hope you and Miriam are happy in your new home. Mazel Tov!
mimi |
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09.01.07 - 12:13 pm | #
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I love smiling. I don't like people who won't own their own behavior, such as yourself.
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Thanks, mimi. We're workin' on it.
rorschach, the boom king |
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09.01.07 - 12:14 pm | #
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Here's a list of prominent Republicans who are gay: . . . ."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
You heard it here first, Larry. Stand up for yourself for once in your life.
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Ms. Rice is rarely, if ever, self-reflective.
That's elitist.
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File under here a terrist, there a terrist, everywhere a terrist (via antiwar.com):
So how does the Bush administration get away with crying terrorist at every opportunity? Say hello to the Military Commissions Act. Thanks to this 2006 piece of legislation, terrorism has become the basis of American foreign and domestic policy. Yes, the term has become equivalent to everything from ideologically driven violence to petty theft, and can be used to incarcerate, exterminate or character assassinate anything in sight.
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Unable or unwilling to solve the nation's crippling meth addiction or its hypocritical dependency on prescribed narcotics like oxycontin, the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) recently rang the terrorism alarm to nail pot growers in Redding's Shasta-Trinity National Forest in California. Along the way, ONDCP "czar" John Walters showed off not only the Bush administration's love of twisted terminology but also its subcultural savvy by coining a memorable phrase of his own.
"We have kind of a reefer blindness," Walters explained during a Redding press conference on the ONDCP's Operation Alesia, a cannabis-eradication program coordinated by the California National Guard's Counterdrug Taskforce and the Shasta County Sheriff's Office. Walters followed that clever turn of phrase with the reliable terrorist designation to describe the armed growers cultivating cannabis in Shasta County. "These people are armed; they're dangerous. [They're] violent criminal terrorists." He even went so far to argue that the "terrorists" growing weed in Shasta County, as the Redding Record Searchlight reported, "wouldn't hesitate to help other terrorists get into the country with the aim of causing mass casualties."
http://www.alternet.org/story/60854/
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09.01.07 - 12:15 pm | #
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My smile is true, mimi. Yours is forced. Confession would make it more natural.
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09.01.07 - 12:15 pm | #
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What if it sells and people believe it?
Snow, Liberal
You take the money and retire early like I suggested. It's kind of reprehensible but you could write the sequel one year later and explain how we lird to prove the gullibility of the right-wingers.
Why? Interested?
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.i'm too young to really know, but surely hillary is nothing like RFK.
chicago dyke
True, I don't think she's as bad as Hubert Humphrey either. The intent wasn't really to compare HRK with RFK anyway, although I can see how you might construe it thus.
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09.01.07 - 12:15 pm | #
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I can't believe nobody's posting from Burning Man...
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 12:15 pm | #
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Did anyone see Bill Maher's show last night?
Mike Gravel was great.
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09.01.07 - 12:16 pm | #
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rors, I knew it would take time for you to set up a whole new life, but I admit I was worried that you, miriam, and da kittehs were affected by the floods.
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rors - you have your 'cheesehead' hats yet?
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09.01.07 - 12:16 pm | #
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Snow, what are you? a Roman Catholic priest?
you Americans really are religious, even when you say you're not, aren't you?
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09.01.07 - 12:16 pm | #
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Wouldn't that be Burnt Man now?
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09.01.07 - 12:17 pm | #
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Ellsberg was dead convinced that RFK, though once an Establishment point man, had a sincere change of heart about Vietnam and would've actually pulled out. So that's one thing you could never get confused with Hillary in a thousand years.
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So how does the Bush administration get away with crying terrorist at every opportunity?
Because the MSM enable it?
Because people are stupid enough to believe them?
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09.01.07 - 12:17 pm | #
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I have some "Power Pop" blogging going on. Click Homepage if interested.
The Kenosha Kid |
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09.01.07 - 12:17 pm | #
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Geez, more pointless generalities from the Zuercher troll.....
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09.01.07 - 12:17 pm | #
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The moppet is an arrogant little pain in the ass, isn't it?
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09.01.07 - 12:18 pm | #
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Me! Me! Mememe!
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Does that mean you won't be owning up to your behavior? That is very sad. If you insist upon being a lying nutjob, so be it.
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rors, I knew it would take time for you to set up a whole new life, but I admit I was worried that you, miriam, and da kittehs were affected by the floods.
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Actually, the floods are pretty much hearsay to me. The rains only winged Oshkosh, and since I don't yet have the TV hooked up, I've just been hearing about them from random folks I've talked to.
The house is still a horrendous mess of boxes, though, and I cannot blame nature for that.
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If President Bush is serious about getting tough on U.S. employers who hire illegal aliens, he can start with his own administration, which employs thousands of unauthorized workers, says the top Republican on the House immigration subcommittee.
A 2006 audit showed federal, state and local governments are among the biggest employers of the half-million persons in the U.S. illegally using "non-work" Social Security numbers — numbers issued legally, but with specific instructions that the holders are not authorized to work in the U.S.
Damn! Who knew?
Consider the source, but, still....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/a.../108230096/
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plantsman, you hold on to a grudge like it's a turd and you're an anal-retentive.
let it go. you'll feel better. less constipated.

mimi |
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I can't believe nobody's posting from Burning Man...
dave™©
Lucky bastardo!
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you Americans really are religious, even when you say you're not, aren't you?
mimi | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:16 pm | #
Very few Americans say they aren't religious, and the ones who aren't don't pretend otherwise.
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09.01.07 - 12:19 pm | #
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Why? Interested?
No. There is no safety net. David Brock has tried to undo his damage, but it has been ineffective.
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09.01.07 - 12:20 pm | #
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Ok, I gotta get out of this crack den--it's 75 degrees out, low humidity, few small, fluffy clouds--gorgeous day.
Perfect day for heavy lifting and gardening.
Latah!
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mimi, I don't want, need, or accept your analysis nor advice. Trolls have a very high recidivism rate.
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Very few Americans say they aren't religious, and the ones who aren't don't pretend otherwise.
but still require confession and atonement?
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you folks just watch. the war will go on, and disgust will set in. by this time next year, when another 0000 american soldiers are dead and we've lost baghdad, being "only sort of anti war" will keep a lot of her potential voters home.
That's pretty much the story of the whole miserable business. There's, if I may modestly say, us, who saw this war for what it was from the beginning, including a few Dems (Feingold, Gore, Dean), there's the rest of the country, which is six months to a year behind us, the Establishment Democrats are three to six months behind the rest of the country, the Establishment Media is three to six months behind the EstDems, the "moderate" Republicans are three to six months behind the Gasbags, and Bush, McCain, Lieberman and the rest of the 29% are still in Magical Faerie Land, where it is always Mission Accomplished! Day
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I just got an email from Al Gore:
As you know, the Earth is moving closer to several negative "tipping points" that could -- within as little as 10 years -- make it virtually impossible for us to avoid irretrievable damage to the planet's habitability for human civilization. That is one of the reasons why it is urgent we take action as soon as possible.
My friend Leonardo DiCaprio has just produced an amazing documentary on this subject. The film was created using over 150 hours of interviews with some of the brightest minds on the planet, including physicist Stephen Hawking and Nobel Prize winner Wangari Maathai. Moreover, Leo himself is very eloquent and persuasive in this movie. I recommend it highly.
Through interviews and beautiful footage of the environment, The 11th Hour demonstrates how human beings have created the climate crisis and related environmental crises, and shows that we have the means to solve them.
The 11th Hour is both a portrait of a planet and a source of hope and solutions.
I hope that you will go to see this important film. You can find out if The 11th Hour is playing near you by visiting:
http://11thhouraction.com/seethefilm
Thank you,
Al Gore
Dear Al, you need to throw your hat in the ring ASAP. Your country and planet need you!!!!!
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09.01.07 - 12:21 pm | #
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this one is the one with the shakey grasp of basic physics, isn't it?
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Barclays has been forced to borrow hundreds of millions of pounds from the Bank of England’s emergency lending facility for the second time in a fortnight, it was revealed last night.
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but still require confession and atonement?
mimi | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:20 pm | #
Oh, please. And I don't think I will be responding to another one of your questions.
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I'd like to go to Burning Man, sometime, but I have a feeling that it's best days may be behind it. Too commercial and big, now?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.01.07 - 12:22 pm | #
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It's hopeless - it has its denial all rationalized out.
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09.01.07 - 12:22 pm | #
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T minus 13 minutes left in the larry craig R-Idahomo death watch...
btw, where has culture of truth been? would love to read his shorter version of the police tapes.
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09.01.07 - 12:22 pm | #
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I'm stuck on the book to leece wingers idea - it's mine so why not eh?
Projection works best - so you know how bush's grandpa was a lying sack of nazi dealing shit? Simply replace the name bush and substitute it with Clinton, Kennedy and Rodham! Presto!
Whose on board? I'm really a terrible speller!
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Barclays has been forced to borrow hundreds of millions of pounds from the Bank of England’s emergency lending facility for the second time in a fortnight, it was revealed last night.
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They still have "fortnights" over there?
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09.01.07 - 12:22 pm | #
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Very few Americans say they aren't religious, and the ones who aren't don't pretend otherwise.
While eschewing an excessive use of the negative in English does not prevent its being unmade impossible, uh...
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I have some "Power Pop" blogging going on. Click Homepage if interested.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Oh my god, kid...that's incredible.
Check my comment -- I don't want to give anything away here....

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Dear Al, you need to throw your hat in the ring ASAP. Your country and planet need you!!!!!
portia
When I saw the subject line on that email, "The 11th Hour", I thought, "Great Googly Moogly, he's gettin' in!"
/sigh/
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Dear Al, you need to throw your hat in the ring ASAP. Your country and planet need you!!!!!
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Well, that would certainly elevate the discourse to the appropriate level, wouldn't it?
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09.01.07 - 12:23 pm | #
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Hecate, my little brother went last year. Said yeah, it's not what it was years ago.
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It's hopeless - it has its denial all rationalized out.
With all of her experience in naval engineering, surely she can explain her ridiculous error?
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It's hopeless - it has its denial all rationalized out.
plantsman, areligious | 09.01.07 - 12:22 pm | #
This, alas, appears to be true.
rorschach, the boom king |
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They've hounded me out for being gay but are fine with Vitter whoring around in diapers. Here's a list of prominent Republicans who are gay: . . . ."
Hecate,
never happen. i think they enjoy it too much, those closet games they play with each other in the swampland. seriously, i think that's the reason you almost never hear about it unless they do something really stupid and get caught. str8s can get away with anything, if the rest of the club agrees. but one of the big rules seems to be that they can't ever go public with the gay thing. i wonder if barney frank has any of the same friends he had before he was outed...
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I have some "Power Pop" blogging going on. Click Homepage if interested.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Oh my god, kid...that's incredible.
Check my comment -- I don't want to give anything away here....
steve simels | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:23 pm | #
Yeah, that was ... indescribable.
Brooklyn Girl |
09.01.07 - 12:25 pm | #
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How do I get on Al's email list?
Moe Szyslak |
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In my State, "unchurched" (non-religious) people are the largest single group, at 38%; at the last polling.
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Re: Burning Man-
Lighting the icon of Burning Man four days before the Man's scheduled immolation was a prank with a message, says the San Francisco man who faces a felony arson charge in connection with the torching.
Paul David Addis was arrested Tuesday on felony charges of arson and destruction of property, as well as misdemeanor possession of fireworks and resisting a public officer, after the 40-foot Burning Man figure was set ablaze at 2:58 a.m. that day. The fire was doused within half an hour, and the figure was rebuilt in time for the official burning, planned for 10 tonight.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...1/
MN8LRTBBN.DTL
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Larry, did you ever hear of payback? This is your chance to get even with the bastards who tossed you over the side. Name names, and let the devil take the hindmost.
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Google Al Gore. Go to website. His email server will never forget you.
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never happen. i think they enjoy it too much, those closet games they play with each othe
Oh, I know, I was just thinking that if I were Craig, I sure would think it was unfair that I get hounded out whie Vitter stays in office. But expecting the truth from any of them is silly.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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"unchurched" (non-religious)
That's a little ambiguous, though, depending on hwo the question was worded. I know people who don't belong to a church but who still believe in a supreme being. Is religion being defined as an institution or a set of beliefs?
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Barney Frank's district has re-elected him every 2 years since he was outed and began living as openly gay, so he must have some of the same friends.
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T minus 13 minutes left in the larry craig R-Idahomo death watch...
Please liveblog it for those of us away from our tvs!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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I sure would think it was unfair that I get hounded out whie Vitter stays in office. But expecting the truth from any of them is silly.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I honestly think that that has nothing to do with Teh Gey and everything to do with the fact that Craig occupies a safe Republican seat and Vitter a not-so-safe one. The party thgerefore suffers no political penalty for kicking Craig out on his ass.
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David Brock has tried to undo his damage, but it has been ineffective.
Snow, Liberal
Very true that. Once a narrative gets out there it does have a life of its' own.
That's how these f'ers have survived the myriad of scandals.
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T Minus 4 minutes.
I hope Craig has a shrink.
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Qiuvering lips, facial contortions, quavering voice.....
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Vitter's sins were heterosexual , and he confessed them.
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Show time!
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09.01.07 - 12:32 pm | #
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When I saw the subject line on that email, "The 11th Hour", I thought, "Great Googly Moogly, he's gettin' in!"
/sigh/
Jim
Jim, I thought the same thing when I saw that, too!!
He could get in and win - even if he jumped in now!
I think he should take the chance - what does he have to lose? And, we (the people) have everything to gain from a Gore candidacy.
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Is religion being defined as an institution or a set of beliefs?
Brooklyn Girl
Set of beliefs. The "institution" part would make it "organized".
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If you want some lurid reading, check into this Florida/Republican/Murder/Suicide story http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3949
This could unearth a lot of interesting, uh, connections with some well known repugs.
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one of the big rules seems to be that they can't ever go public with the gay thing.
It has now been perfectly clear for some time that the phony sexual "morality" the establishment subscribes to, which has always been decades behind any given region of America in its intolerance, is a cruel blackmail system. Almost all the more deeply illogical sexual scandals (senators have their toys delivered to them in excellent hotel rooms and thug-guaranteed privacy, they don't fish in toilets) are really something else. In particular there was a spate of falsely ringing scandals in the 90s, all of which involved unattractive women from a certain nationality whose families just happened to be tied into networks of power that are active to this day. That's a funny coincidence. You would think that if the problem was mere horniness, then attractive but poor and less connected girls would be enormously preferable. Unless of course there was no scandal and the mental disconnect in happening not in the mind of the alleged pervert but in the heads of people who think no further than when they've congratulated themselves on condemning another hypocrite.
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Idaho is certainly very beautiful.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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Vitter's replacement would be appointed by a Democrat. They'd defend him even if he had abducted little boys in cages as his sex slaves.
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The Otters have arrived.
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has the family there.
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Please liveblog it for those of us away from our tvs!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:30 pm
hecate,
i'm away from tv as well. i just knew that at 12:30 eastern he was going to have his presser.
hoping others in here will give us the 'blow by blow'. 
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He isn't carrying a large manila envelope, is he?
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Kenosha Kid,
We will need to see this when it comes out next week.
Walken's in it, too, people.
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Love ya, George, but I don't want a "rock star" in the White House.
This country already had a shitty B actor in there, and he was a disaster.
I want someone who knows what he is doing.
http://www.comcast.net/entertain.../01/
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missing all the double entendres.
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He is very humbled. And so is everyone with him.
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I dunno about religion (really, I dunno), but American TV shows always have the smarmy family-friendly endings. It's annoying.
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Good morning alla you. There's a huge Stellar's Jay in the chestnut tree right outside my window screaming at me like he wants me to come outside and take care of something. I think it's a sign.
Nice. My first comment in several days and haloscan tells me I must wait another 20 seconds.
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Larry Craig is very humble.
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Hi, mena!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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Brooklyn Girl:
You have mail...

steve simels |
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09.01.07 - 12:36 pm | #
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Loves Idaho and only seeks what is best for Idaho. Very sorry for what people believe about him.
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Can't defend his name in court while serving Idaho during this time of war.
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or what people believe about him.
So he still can't admit it. Gotta be horrible to hate yourself that much.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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Come out of the closet, Senator. You have nothing to lose but your shame.
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The CBC was complaining the other day that restaurants on PEI, home of Bud the Spud, are serving Idaho potatoes.
Moe Szyslak |
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Sadness and deep regret, resigning effective 30 September.
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Mena!!!
[MWAAHHHHH!!!!!}

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Ooooh, the wheels on the bus go round-and-round, round-and-round, round-and round......
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serving Idaho during this time of war.
Oh, for the love of Lakshmi
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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Heckler demands resignation now. Shouted down by supporter.
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I have full confidence that the Governor of Idaho will appoint an even bigger schmuck than Craig.
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Also the spiders are muscling their way into the house en masse. I guess Summer's over.
No, no, I don't think I've already said that. Pretty sure.
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So he still can't admit it. Gotta be horrible to hate yourself that much.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:37 pm | #
I do pity the man for that. It is just so pathetic and sad.
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I've always liked Pocatello.
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Can't defend his name in court while serving Idaho during this time of war.
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Sweet Jesus. If he admits he's gay, the terr'rists win?
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Senator Larry Craig is a class act. Went out with style and class.
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'Why do so many Americans hate so many Americans?'
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I'm a fan of Athol, myself. Perhaps Craig will retire there....
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Larry Craig is very humble.
steve simels
But still refuses to emerge from the closet.
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No questions answered.
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Senator Larry Craig is a class act. Went out with style and class.
slamclik
Fuck off, jack.
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We will need to see this when it comes out next week.
Walken's in it, too, people.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:35 pm | #
Well, I'm sold...

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You got no support, Larry. They stabbed you in the back. Especially that Beaver asshole.
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Hecate, steve - SMOOCH!!
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So he still can't admit it. Gotta be horrible to hate yourself that much.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:37 pm | #
I do pity the man for that. It is just so pathetic and sad.
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Whatever sympathy I had for him evaporated when he tied this nonsense to the "war"
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09.01.07 - 12:40 pm | #
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Admits nothing. Mouths self-serving, flowery bullshit for several minutes. Does not claim innocence, but implies the problem is "What other people think." Finally, announces resignation, effective Sept.30.
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Ok, I'm going to do something.
But I leave you with this
(simels, no wanking where we can see you, m'kay)
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I have full confidence that the Governor of Idaho will appoint an even bigger schmuck than Craig.
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs | 09.01.07 - 12:38 pm | #
As Mr. Spock said, I would accept that as axiomatic.
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Oh dear, is Craig on humiliating hisself even further? I think I'd rather hear about it here. It sounds painful.
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likely successor
http://www.idahostatesman.com/po...ory/
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Whatever sympathy I had for him evaporated when he tied this nonsense to the "war"
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No argument here. He's an asshole, and has been for a long time (backing anti-gay initiatives, etc).
So I ain't sayin' I like him, but I do pity him for being as twisted up inside as he must be.
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Oh dear, is Craig on humiliating hisself even further? I think I'd rather hear about it here. It sounds painful.
mena
Phoney humility.
He's STILL in denial.
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Craig still doesn't seem to understand that if we withdraws the guilty plea, the police will reinstate the peeping tom charge.
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09.01.07 - 12:43 pm | #
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Er, if yern't gay, and ya didn't propositionalize the cop, why're yer resigning?
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Quotes from Larry Craig's Resignation:
I try to pull out but they drag me back in!
You know, I've been rethinking my life with my new wrestling partner Tucker after a good beating he gave me...
I look forward to spending more time with my family, by which I mean a family of bodybuilders that lives in my extended home gym.
Whose dick do I gotta suck to get outta here already?
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So I ain't sayin' I like him, but I do pity him for being as twisted up inside as he must be.
Oh yeah. Must be uncomfortable living with this.
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There are a total of 764,880 registered voters in Idaho. In 2006, 60% voted, 458,927.
This is your relatively meaningless information for the day. Ur welcome.
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The governor of Idaho's first name is BUTCH?????????????????

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Good grief. NYT:
If Senator Larry E. Craig resigns Saturday as expected amid accusations that he solicited sex in an airport restroom, his successor will be chosen by a fellow Republican who knows better than most what voters in this deeply conservative state will tolerate when it comes to the private behavior of public officials.
Gov. C. L. Otter, known as Butch, was arrested, and eventually convicted, on charges of driving under the influence of alcohol when he was lieutenant governor in 1992. Just days before, he also entered — and won — the Mr. Tight Jeans contest at the Rockin’ Rodeo bar here in the state capital. The next year, he went through a very public divorce.
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So I ain't sayin' I like him, but I do pity him for being as twisted up inside as he must be.
rorschach,
No, I agree, I have been feeling sorry for him, he is one fucked up dood. Apparently he was genuinely surprised that his 'friends' didn't support him (Trent Lott, for example)
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The governor of Idaho's first name is BUTCH?????????????????
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It's one of our more manly states.
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Jaysus. Rainbow's End was the worst fuckin' novel I've read in years, of any genre--I couldn't even finish it.
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Mr "Butch" Tight Jeans. Say that once out loud without laughing.
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Gov. C. L. Otter, known as Butch, was arrested, and eventually convicted, on charges of driving under the influence of alcohol when he was lieutenant governor in 1992. Just days before, he also entered — and won — the Mr. Tight Jeans contest at the Rockin’ Rodeo bar here in the state capital.
Was Larry Craig a judge?
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There are a total of 764,880 registered voters in Idaho. In 2006, 60% voted, 458,927.
This is your relatively meaningless information for the day. Ur welcome.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
And they have two senators, just like real states.
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So, Butch is gay too, eh?
Moe Szyslak |
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Jim Risch, Craig's "likely" successor.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/vdG4gZZa.jpg
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Gov. C. L. Otter, known as Butch, was arrested, and eventually convicted, on charges of driving under the influence of alcohol when he was lieutenant governor in 1992. Just days before, he also entered — and won — the Mr. Tight Jeans contest at the Rockin’ Rodeo bar here in the state capital. The next year, he went through a very public divorce.
I don't even know what the guy LOOKS like and my gaydar is already going off full blast!
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Anybody here a fan of the Phil Collins version of Genesis?
I just got Rhino's new two disc Greatest Hits, and I'll never listen to it...
steve simels |
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Larry Craig also denies that the Village People were gay.
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mena,
I'm with you. I don't want to watch it. I couldn't even listen to the tape. I think they guy is a world-class jerk, but the closet -- and the shame-- are painful to hear.
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Anybody here a fan of the Phil Collins version of Genesis?
I just got Rhino's new two disc Greatest Hits, and I'll never listen to it...
steve simels
Hand goes up sheepishly
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No, I agree, I have been feeling sorry for him, he is one fucked up dood. Apparently he was genuinely surprised that his 'friends' didn't support him (Trent Lott, for example)
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With "friends" like Lott, who needs enemas?
I do have a tendency to feel pity for these self-hating folks.
I mean, I hate myself too, sure, but at least I have valid reasons!
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I just got Rhino's new two disc Greatest Hits, and I'll never listen to it...
steve simel
Me!
Me!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar |
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Pat Buchanan before: the gays are teh devil and will destroy our civilization
Pat Buchanan now: where are the friends of teh gay?
Brooklyn Girl, thanks for the advice on psychokitten. I've had others tell me the same thing.
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Well, Idaho's ain't Utah, that's for sure. I remember visiting Shoshone Falls, a pathetic spectacle if ever there was one, and seeing a sign in the adjacent picinic area that said "Keg beer by permit only". It's more of a gun-totin', terbakky-chewin' kind of Republican there.
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the Mr. Tight Jeans contest at the Rockin’ Rodeo bar
Wow. No wonder they hated Brokeback so much. Hit a little too close to home....
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Anybody here a fan of the Phil Collins version of Genesis?
Just that one drum transition in "In The Air Tonight."
res ipsa loquitur |
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Pat Buchanan before: the gays are teh devil and will destroy our civilization
Pat Buchanan is a fascist prick.
That is all.
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One of my best Arson investigators had the given name of Cleon. Naturally, he went by the name of Butch. Great guy.
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09.01.07 - 12:48 pm | #
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Anybody here a fan of the Phil Collins version of Genesis?
(....crickets...)
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Apparently he was genuinely surprised that his 'friends' didn't support him (Trent Lott, for example)
He should have taken everyone with him, dragged every GOP closet case he knew about out kicking and screaming ...
res ipsa loquitur |
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I'd rather be without a friend in the world than call Trent Lott a "friend."
Lott is all for himself.
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This just in ... Larry Craig claims Frankie Goes to Hollywood song is about "relaxing" ... developing ...
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(simels, no wanking where we can see you, m'kay)
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:41 pm | #
Oh my.
As Steve Forbert famously said, "she sure is purty."

You're reading my mind, actually -- I'm posting something about her on Monday.
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Res - yep, they're all eat up with it, aren't they? The Shame and Compensation Party.
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Gary Cooper movie on TCM.
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Saw Genesis' first tour with Collin's singing a lot of the Gabriel era stuff, and still trying to drum --
The "A Trick of The Tail" Tour, at The Berkeley Community Theatre. He was no Peter Gabriel, but his plaintive voice had its appeal.
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Chris Wallace sez Craig found "a shred of dignity".
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He should have taken everyone with him, dragged every GOP closet case he knew about out kicking and screaming ...
res ipsa loquitu
I don't think Lindsay Graham will make to '08 without being outed or getting married.
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One of my best Arson investigators had the given name of Cleon. Naturally, he went by the name of Butch. Great guy.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Last week, former NBA coach Butch van Breda Koff left this world.
I think his real first name was Wilhelm.
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Senator Larry Craig is a class act. Went out with style and class.
slamclik | 09.01.07 - 12:39 pm | #
hmm. and here i thought he went out by slithering around a stinky men's bathroom floor and got caught (finally) trying to suck some strange man's dick in a public area...
but, wtfdik? i guess i musta missed something according to your post.
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Chris Wallace sez Craig found "a shred of dignity".
P O'Neill
What would Chris Wallace know about dignity?
What would anyone on the right know about dignity?
Or honor or integrity.....?
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Me!
Me!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 12:47 pm | #
It would be my very great pleasure to give it to you. E-mail at ssimels@gmail.com with your home addy.

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He should have taken everyone with him, dragged every GOP closet case he knew about out kicking and screaming ...
res ipsa loquitur
Nope.
Gutless as well as dishonest and self-hating.
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That "Shred of Dignity" was on the floor, behind his widely-stanced foot.
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That "Shred of Dignity" was on the floor, behind his widely-stanced foot.
plantsman, areligious
And the piece of toilet paper he'd claimed to be picking up.
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Still quite proud of oppressing gay people, Larry is.
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Otter's first name is "Clement."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Potential fratricide?
"The Army has confirmed that "several" of the 10 Schofield Barracks soldiers who died in an Aug. 22 helicopter crash in northern Iraq were witnesses in a murder case involving two other Schofield soldiers accused of shooting an Iraqi detainee."
Nűr al-Cubicle |
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A signed guilty plea stands as an admission of guilt, does it not?
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The Craig video is on the front page of European on-line papers.
Nűr al-Cubicle |
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Pleas can be withdrawn.
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Mike Rogers laughs at Craig for picking a train station as his place of resigning. As he pointed out way back in oct. of '06....
I have done extensive research into this case, including trips to the Pacific Northwest to meet with men who have say they have physical relations with the Senator. I have also met with a man here in Washington, D.C., who says the same -- and that these incidents occurred in the bathrooms of Union Station.
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German TV (ARD or ZDF, I dunno) played Countdown's "dragnet-style" comedic re-enactment of the Craig Event.
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David Kaiser hints that Craig may have been involved in the 1980's sex scandal in the Capitol restrooms. After the scandal at age 40-something he then got married.
Nűr al-Cubicle |
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Well, just a quickie from me this morning. School starts Wednesday, and I have to go out this morning to buy fat pants for work. Can you imagine anything more fun? So much for quitting smoking. Have a good morning.
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On c-span2/BookTV now - Speech
Enter the Past Tense
Barnes & Noble Booksellers
New York, New York (United States)
08/18/2007 - 1:03
Haas, Roland W. Author
Roland Haas talked about his book Enter the Past Tense: My Secret Life as a CIA Assassin, published by Potomac Books. Mr. Haas talked about his life as an assassin for the Central Intelligence Agency. Recruited right out of college, Mr. Haas spent 30 years with the CIA and worked in many countries, including Germany, Iran, Afghanistan, and India.
Roland W. Haas is an assistant deputy chief of staff and the command senior intelligence officer of the U.S. Army Reserve Command.
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org...an/
schedule.csp
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QuentinCompson |
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Funny how neither CNN or MSNBC identifies Craig as a Republican.
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Craig issued a denial in 1982 around a Congressional Page Sex Scandal in which he had not been implicated.
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MSNBC has been covering the GOP angle since the story broke.
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MSNBC has been covering the GOP angle since the story broke.
plantsman, areligious
Same old, same old.
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Anybody here a fan of the Phil Collins version of Genesis?
Well, I always liked "Squonk"...
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Funny how neither CNN or MSNBC identifies Craig as a Republican.
Karatist Preacher | 09.01.07 - 1:02 pm | #
Fucking hilarious.
I can't even imagine what they're doing at Fox...
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Craig issued a denial in 1982 around a Congressional Page Sex Scandal in which he had not been implicated.
The page withdrew the allegation.
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Well, looks like there's going to be a BBQ at my house tonight. Now I both have to mow, weed, and sweep the back yard and also make about a shit ton of ratatouille with all those tomatoes that ripened while we were on vacation. Going to try a grilling approach this time for the veggies. So Later, batses, there's much work to be done.....
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I just got Rhino's new two disc Greatest Hits, and I'll never listen to it...
You mean you don't haul all those freebies down to the used CD store once a month?
What the hell kind of record critic ARE you???
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Well, I always liked "Squonk"...
dave™© | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 1:03 pm | #
It didn't make the cut.

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"Like Father, like son....
Not flesh nor fish nor bo-oo-oo-one."
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I can't even imagine what they're doing at Fox...
steve simels
Last minute recipes for your patriotic Labor Day Barbecue!!
with special guest, Rachel Ray!!
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Actually, I had a girlfriend once who was a big post-Gabriel Genesis fan, now that I think of it.
I guess I liked "Trick of the Tail" well enough... that was about it, though.
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I can't even imagine what they're doing at Fox...
steve simels
Spinning themselves dizzy, as usual.
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Hey blerb. Potatoes in ratatouille is teh awesome.
Nűr al-Cubicle |
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Smoking gun has a transcript of the cop interview.
Anyone know who made this public in the first place? It's very strange it was out there for two months or so before it went public.
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with special guest, Rachel Ray!!
The things she can do with some olive oil and a cucumber...!!!
dave™© |
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It makes me so sad that 9/10 people who even recognize the name "Genesis" think only of the Phil Collins version.
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"Triscuits with cut-up Vienna Sausages and Miracle Whip!"
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Potatoes in ratatouille is teh awesome
Potatoes?? That's just so wrong!
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There's a great way to capture a new generation of listeners. Rant on about issues for which they have absolutely no understanding nor interest.
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You mean you don't haul all those freebies down to the used CD store once a month?
What the hell kind of record critic ARE you???
dave™© | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 1:05 pm | #
NYCD, the greatest indie record store in the history of mankind, went out of business last month.
So I am currently forced to keep all the crap I get in the mail.
Right now I am burdened with a Tracy Lawrence CD, a DVD of Ratt live, and a DVD/CD combo of the live Heaven and Hell tour with Atriot Ronnie James Dio and Tony Iommi.
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"Triscuits with cut-up Vienna Sausages and Miracle Whip!"
plantsman,
You made me gag and feel nostalgic for those mid-seventies family picnics all at once....
with special guest, Rachel Ray!!
The things she can do with some olive oil and a cucumber...!!!
dave™©
EVOO!!!
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Anyone know who made this public in the first place?
Roll Call published his guilty plea.
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Steve Hackett was a big loss to Genesis, too.
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"Triscuits with cut-up Vienna Sausages and Miracle Whip!"
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Ew!
The things she can do with some olive oil and a cucumber...!!!
dave™© | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 1:06 pm | #
Ew!!!
rorschach, the boom king |
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.Right now I am burdened with a Tracy Lawrence CD, a DVD of Ratt live, and a DVD/CD combo of the live Heaven and Hell tour with Atriot Ronnie James Dio and Tony Iommi.
steve simels
Did you have to listen to Ann Wilson's CD of covers yet? Gawd, that woman should just hang it up! She had about the sexiest voice in all of pop music at one time, and now she is just a sad parody of herself.
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Oh, no, trust me fried potatoes in there take the bite out of the eggplant. I learned this trick in Tuscany.
Nűr al-Cubicle |
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WHY are the Repugs so HOT to start WW III?
http://www.comcast.net/news/
poli...cvqh=itn_romney
Shut up, Mitt - just shut the fuck up!
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NYCD, the greatest indie record store in the history of mankind, went out of business last month.
So I am currently forced to keep all the crap I get in the mail.
Maybe you'll get an Amoeba.
Back when I worked at the Extremely Hip and Well-Known Record Store, late Saturday mornings at Recycled Records was a ritual... either to sell or buy.
I could always count on the promos I was too low on the food chain to get at work to show up for sale there.
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Potatoes in ratatouille is teh awesome
Potatoes?? That's just so wrong!
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Agreed.
When it comes to potatoes, you really should only boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.
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Admits nothing. Mouths self-serving, flowery bullshit for several minutes. Does not claim innocence, but implies the problem is "What other people think." Finally, announces resignation, effective Sept.30.
plantsman, areligious
Shorter: "Blah, blah, blah. See ya."
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Did you have to listen to Ann Wilson's CD of covers yet?
Is that the one with "Immigrant Song" on it?
I kinda like that...
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:11 pm | #
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When it comes to potatoes, you really should only boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.
rorschach, the boom king
I likes 'em baked!
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs |
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Sorry... here's the Amoeba Records link...
dave™© |
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Ah you troglodytes. Fine. I tried to lift up your ratatouille experience.
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Roll Call published his guilty plea.
That's right. I see on the transcript, the cop is calling Craig "Senator," so they knew from the start. Three months seems like a looooooong time for this to be hushed up.
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Did you have to listen to Ann Wilson's CD of covers yet? Gawd, that woman should just hang it up! She had about the sexiest voice in all of pop music at one time, and now she is just a sad parody of herself.
blerb
Damn, but you're hard to please.
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It makes me so sad that 9/10 people who even recognize the name "Genesis" think only of the Phil Collins version.
blerb
If it makes _you_ sad, imagine how Peter Gabriel must feel.
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I'm currently contemplating a potato spinach fusion, myself....
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When it comes to potatoes, the amount I'm allowed to eat at a sitting is so small as to be negligible.
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.Is that the one with "Immigrant Song" on it?
I kinda like that...
dave™©
Not Sure, could be. I gave up listening somewhere in the middle, after "Hard Rain". They sounded like a cheap knockoff of the Indigo Girls to me, And I don't even like the real Indigo Girls.
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Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill" still gets played a fair bit, and the album with "Red Rain" ( So, was it?) was a big hit.
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Hey, Steverino, speaking of Amoeba Records - here's video of a recent Patti Smith in-store show!
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:15 pm | #
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Yeah, I LIKE this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?
v=4C1iDbEha7U
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They sounded like a cheap knockoff of the Indigo Girls to me, And I don't even like the real Indigo Girls.
blerb
DON'T MOCK INDIGO GIRLS MOTHERFUCKER!
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Three months seems like a looooooong time for this to be hushed up.
His guilty plea was Aug 8.
OOoh. Chimpy called Craig.
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OOoh. Chimpy called Craig.
Snow, Liberal
Wants his little black book if Larry isn't using it anymore.
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs |
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Emily and Amy, Light and Darkness - Swamp Ophelia rocked!
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Ratatouille consists of eggplants, squash, tomatoes, onions, green peppers, and olive oil. Various different combinations of herbs and spices that might be found in southern France are acceptable. Other than that, you just don't fuck with it. Potatoes, if they are eaten with it, must be eaten separately.
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I heard a rumor that Craig is going into interior decorating.
Its his passion.
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Chimpy: "So it's three taps, Larry?"
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His guilty plea was Aug 8.
But his arrest was in June. And they called him "Senator" on that day. Even Aug. 8 to the last week of August is a loooooong time, imo.
Moe Szyslak |
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09.01.07 - 1:18 pm | #
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DON'T MOCK INDIGO GIRLS MOTHERFUCKER!
Why ever not? Everyone else does.
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Horsey Wallpaper, Wagon Wheels, and the odd butt plug.
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I gotta go do garned things. Laters.
Moe Szyslak |
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09.01.07 - 1:19 pm | #
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Why ever not? Everyone else does.
Finny
You're dead to me, Finny.
Dead I say!
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09.01.07 - 1:19 pm | #
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DON'T MOCK INDIGO GIRLS MOTHERFUCKER!
jac
Its a good thing Vicki is taking a nap.
Gomez |
09.01.07 - 1:19 pm | #
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Re-HICA!
Back from breakie and shoppie!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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09.01.07 - 1:19 pm | #
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Craig gave Officer Karsnia a business card revealing him to be a Senator just after the arrest, and is reported to have said to the officer "What Do You Think Of That?"
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.Yeah, I LIKE this!
Well, as I said, I gave up before I got to that. But her voice still degenerates into a raspy screech during the parts where it used to have its greatest full-throated glory. She is past it, I say.
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Hey, Steverino, speaking of Amoeba Records - here's video of a recent Patti Smith in-store show!
dave™© | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 1:15 pm | #
Excellent!
steve simels |
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09.01.07 - 1:21 pm | #
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Singing Rock Powerfully is known to be hell on the vocal chords of most people -- it happened to Annie Lennox.
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And plainly stating that I don't like the Indigo Girls is not the same as mocking them, although I would gladly do so given a good oocasion.
blerb |
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So do you kids know who John Vanderslice is?
I mean, I barely do... for all I know, he could be big Big BIG!
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:22 pm | #
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Craig gave Officer Karsnia a business card revealing him to be a Senator just after the arrest, and is reported to have said to the officer "What Do You Think Of That?"
[officer looks down]
"I've seen bigger."
NTodd, G9R |
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Gov. C. L. Otter, known as Butch, was arrested, and eventually convicted, on charges of driving under the influence of alcohol when he was lieutenant governor in 1992. Just days before, he also entered — and won — the Mr. Tight Jeans contest at the Rockin’ Rodeo bar here in the state capital. The next year, he went through a very public divorce.
Ah, the party of family values!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.01.07 - 1:23 pm | #
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"I've seen bigger."
*rimshot!*
HI-YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
(Oh, and Doc? Love the ascot!)
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:23 pm | #
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So do you kids know who John Vanderslice is?
Runs a pizza joint in Amsterdamn, right?
NTodd, G9R |
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09.01.07 - 1:23 pm | #
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Good afternoon!
Just a quick 'Hi' before Zapette and I venture off to the Great Minnesota Get-Together (aka: the State Fair).
Stuff on a stick, a-bay-bay!!
Zap Rowsdower, Internationale |
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09.01.07 - 1:24 pm | #
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It's just that I used to worship Ann Wilson as a goddess. Little Queen and Dreamboat Annie are such great albums.
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"It is my hope he will be remembered not for this, but for his three decades of dedicated public service," McConnell said.
That's just the thing. Republicans don't do anything for anyone. They're just there.
When they die, no one cares or remembers most of them.
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09.01.07 - 1:25 pm | #
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But I leave you with this
Debbie Harry has the most beautiful mouth on the planet, hands down.
And I'm straight.
Brooklyn Girl |
09.01.07 - 1:25 pm | #
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Fried Stuff-On-A-Stick, damn it!
plantsman, areligious |
09.01.07 - 1:25 pm | #
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BTW, I uploaded a new podcast last night, in case anybody's interested...
NTodd, G9R |
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09.01.07 - 1:27 pm | #
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Wish someone would catch Mitch McConnell getting busy in a bathroom.
plantsman, areligious |
09.01.07 - 1:27 pm | #
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OK. Must. Turn. Off. Computer. Now.
blerb |
09.01.07 - 1:27 pm | #
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Brooklyn Girl:
You've got mail..
steve simels |
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09.01.07 - 1:27 pm | #
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Fried Stuff-On-A-Stick, damn it!
Damn straight!
This year's new entries include: chocolate cheesecake w/ coca-cola syrup on a stick, and s'mores on a stick.
Zap Rowsdower, Internationale |
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09.01.07 - 1:28 pm | #
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Hey, kids, do you like the "mash-ups"? This one's for you!
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:29 pm | #
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The President thanked Craig for taking the attention off HIS fuckups.
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09.01.07 - 1:32 pm | #
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Hey, kids, do you like the "mash-ups"? This one's for you!
dave™© | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 1:29 pm | #
I found an amazing one on YouTube which I may post..
Snoop Dogg and Eddie Cochran.
I'm not making this up...
steve simels |
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09.01.07 - 1:32 pm | #
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Oooh, I'm also gonna hit Falafel King. (no, not BillO)
Damn tasty.
Zap Rowsdower, Internationale |
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09.01.07 - 1:32 pm | #
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The President thanked Craig for taking the attention off HIS fuckups.
Then he rubbed Larry's bald head and led him away into the bowels of the White House...
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:32 pm | #
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Morning, 'bats!
No more Sen. Craig to kick around--I'm already sad.
tikistitch |
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09.01.07 - 1:33 pm | #
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"Serious Times" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Larry Craig's resignation speech, during which he pointed out with a passion that we live in serious times of war — no time for distractions — was classy and responsible. A sad day — but in resigning and apologizing "for what I have caused" he was a model of taking responsibility for what one owes his constituents. He took his job seriously today. He didn't have to get into details and didn't. He's moving on and will deal with his problems as a private citizen.
The disgraceful moment of the speech came when people cheered — so far as I could tell, watching on TV — as he announced he is stepping down. Applaud his service and let him be.
If he's so "classy," why didn't you Cornholers fight for him?
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09.01.07 - 1:33 pm | #
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Snoop Dogg and Eddie Cochran.
Hey, I'm still looking for Five Finger Freddy and Max Roach!
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:33 pm | #
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A sad day — but in resigning and apologizing "for what I have caused" he was a model of taking responsibility for what one owes his constituents.
Where's her screed about Vitter?
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:34 pm | #
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Hey, kids, do you like the "mash-ups"? This one's for you!
You crazy kids.
Ya know the item above, about Amazon "challenging" iTunes? iTunes, or so I've heard, is kind of a dumb business model--they don't really make any money, they just wanna sell iPods.
tikistitch |
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09.01.07 - 1:35 pm | #
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Sen. Craig, R-NOT GAY!!
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09.01.07 - 1:35 pm | #
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Max Roach. As illustrated by my friend, Ryan Kelly.
Zap Rowsdower, Internationale |
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09.01.07 - 1:35 pm | #
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Where's her screed about Vitter?
Let me guess:
"Clinton Clinton Clinton Clinton Clinton Clinton Chappquiddick."
tikistitch |
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09.01.07 - 1:36 pm | #
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Craig gave Officer Karsnia a business card revealing him to be a Senator just after the arrest, and is reported to have said to the officer "What Do You Think Of That?"
plantsman, areligious
"Book Deal!"
Dr. Wu |
09.01.07 - 1:36 pm | #
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I'm Audi 5000!
Have fun at the Fair!!
Zap Rowsdower, Internationale |
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09.01.07 - 1:37 pm | #
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I have full confidence that the Governor of Idaho will appoint an even bigger schmuck than Craig.
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs
He's touring public bathrooms as we speak.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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09.01.07 - 1:37 pm | #
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iTunes, or so I've heard, is kind of a dumb business model--they don't really make any money, they just wanna sell iPods.
Which are the razors and which are the razorblades?
NTodd, G9R |
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09.01.07 - 1:37 pm | #
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So do you kids know who John Vanderslice is?
In school the kids would say-
Think twice, Vanderslice.
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The disgraceful moment of the speech came when people cheered — so far as I could tell, watching on TV — as he announced he is stepping down. Applaud his service and let him be.
Fuck the closeted bigoted fuckwad.
And fuck you too, you bloodthirsty piece of crap. You and everybody who still cheers this disgusting war are going to be gobbling on Satan's knob sooner rather than later.
steve simels |
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09.01.07 - 1:37 pm | #
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Craig gave Officer Karsnia a business card revealing him to be a Senator just after the arrest, and is reported to have said to the officer "What Do You Think Of That?"
I liked Olbermann's take on that, where he'd scrawled "SENATOR" in marking pen.
tikistitch |
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09.01.07 - 1:38 pm | #
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I have full confidence that the Governor of Idaho will appoint an even bigger schmuck than Craig.
HEy, Mark Fuhrman moved to Idaho, didn't he?
tikistitch |
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09.01.07 - 1:39 pm | #
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she ran calling wiiiildfire....
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Candy Crowley is reporting on CNN that Republicans have turned the corner and will now gain traction with the voters, the bad is behind them . Sorry Libs.
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Larry Craig's resignation speech, during which he pointed out with a passion that we live in serious times of war — no time for distractions
What war?
Snow, Liberal |
09.01.07 - 1:40 pm | #
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we live in serious times of war
O how I miss those funny comedy times of war!
tikistitch |
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09.01.07 - 1:41 pm | #
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so, will Craig's resignation change the balance in the Senate?
mimi |
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09.01.07 - 1:41 pm | #
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Candy Crowley is reporting on CNN that Republicans have turned the corner and will now gain traction with the voters, the bad is behind them . Sorry Libs.
LGF Forever
She was not, she was eating a donut.
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Candy Crowley is reporting on CNN that Republicans have turned the corner--
Was it difficult to understand her with all that GOP cock in her mouth?
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Living in a time of war apparently did not prevent Craig from hanging out, hoping to be smokin' in the boys room.
And what exactly are the goddam GOP members of Congress going to be distracted from? Clapping louder? Obstructing more vigorously?
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Candy Crowley is reporting on CNN
I still wanna know the EXACT cartoon that Mowaffak al-Rubaie, Iraq's NSA, was watching in Iraq when the congresscritters visited him. Why won't CNN report the truth?
tikistitch |
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09.01.07 - 1:44 pm | #
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How long will Craig's marriage last?
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall |
09.01.07 - 1:44 pm | #
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LGF Forever
The mouthbreathers have such LOW aspirations in life, don't they?
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs |
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Seems to me that the bad isn't behind them, its in their collective behind.
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CNN is reporting...
BAHAHAHAHAHA---*choke*--ahaha---*cough*
Ahh, that was good...hehhe, ahhh, hunf, "reporting".*mphelplgh HAHAHAHA -ow, I pulled something.
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How long will Craig's beard stay on?
Fixed that for ya.
Supreme Commander Thor |
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Shorter trollie: "It's Hard Out Here For A Troll"
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Candy Crowley is reporting on CNN that Republicans have turned the corner--
So what?
She's PAID to lie - just like Hannity, O'Reilly, Rush, Blitzer and the rest of the GOP enablers.
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs |
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How long will Craig's beard stay on?
Didn't they marry like a couple months after he FIRST reported he was notGay?
Maybe she's into all the notGay thing.
tikistitch |
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09.01.07 - 1:46 pm | #
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Michigan down by 14 against who?
Thers |
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09.01.07 - 1:46 pm | #
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I still wanna know the EXACT cartoon that Mowaffak al-Rubaie, Iraq's NSA, was watching in Iraq when the congresscritters visited him. Why won't CNN report the truth?
tikistitch
In college my brother roomed with some Iranians who thought that Popeye was hilarious.
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This will be good for Republicans, and the Democrats are in disarry in dealing with this issue.
Blah blah - that shit gets old.
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How long will Craig's beard stay on?
For as long as he remains useful and stays out of the men's room. Now that he will be spending more time at home, his useful life may actually have been extended.
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so, will Craig's resignation change the balance in the Senate?
No, GOP gov will appoint a Repub, and the net result will be the same slim Dem majority.
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Didn't they marry like a couple months after he FIRST reported he was notGay?
Maybe she's into all the notGay thing.
As long as the money keep rollin' in, she'll stand by her man--
Just not in any men's bathrooms.
Supreme Commander Thor |
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"Serious Times" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Speaking of someone with GOP cock in her mouth.............
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs |
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I'd love to see Craig's record collection. I can just imagine what he has in there.
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09.01.07 - 1:48 pm | #
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Who is this person?
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...now I'm jealous and envious. I wish my technical writing career allowed some time to ...pursue other interests.
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merci chéri
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Court: Mexican trucks program to proceed
SAN FRANCISCO - The Bush administration can go ahead with a pilot program to allow as many as 100 Mexican trucking companies to freely haul their cargo anywhere within the U.S. for the next year, a federal appeals court ruled Friday.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied a request made by the Teamsters union, the Sierra Club and the nonprofit Public Citizen to halt the program.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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09.01.07 - 1:49 pm | #
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slim Dem majority
Slim? Have you seen some of those guys?
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As long as the money keep rollin' in, she'll stand by her man--
Just not in any men's bathrooms.
That might be awkward, you're right. "And while we're here, let me introduce the missus!"
tikistitch |
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Candy Crowley is reporting--
Non-sequitor! Non-sequitor! Your facts are in error!
dave™© |
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09.01.07 - 1:50 pm | #
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GOP cocks also need love.
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I knew some Iranians back before the revolution. One girl, Zohrea, lovely person, told me her favorite tune was the commercial jingle "K-mart is your savings store."
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...oh, this is the Sen Craig thread?
Pity.
My amendment to the constitution: "No sexual test."
Darryl Pearce |
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09.01.07 - 1:50 pm | #
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Speaking of someone with GOP cock in her mouth...
There are some things not even a Republican will do...
dave™© |
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Things might get a bit ugly on the truck routes out there.
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Sparkle Plenty |
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Candy Crowley is PROPAGANDIZING
Fixed trollie's typo
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Mrs. Craig (as she and Wide Stance are about to embark on a long auto trip): "This large thermos jug is for you to piss in."
Lime Rickey |
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Brooklyn Girl:
You've got mail..
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Back at ya.
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In college my brother roomed with some Iranians who thought that Popeye was hilarious.
Gomez
Olive Oyl was one woman who a burka would have benefited immensely.
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Oh Boy Scouts!
CBS News reported Tuesday on "disturbing revelations" regarding the Boy Scouts, saying that "over the last 60 years, at least 5,100 adult leaders were kicked out of the Scouts because of allegations of sexual abuse."
That figure emerged as the result of a lawsuit against the Scouts by two brothers, who told CBS they were abused throughout their entire childhoods by an assistant scoutmaster who has since acknowledged his guilt.
"Thousands of secret Boy Scout files ... were turned over to the brothers' attorney" as a result of the suit, CBS reported, and the attorney told CBS his analysis showed troop leaders were being tossed out for suspected abuse every three days before 1991 and every 2 days since then.
The Boy Scouts insist that these numbers represent only a tiny percentage of scoutmasters, and the organization now requires criminal background checks and has instituted educational policies intended to prevent abuse. Despite the increased scrutiny, the head of the Scouts' child abuse prevention program was convicted in 2005 of trafficking in child pornography.
Yeah, wouldn't want any gays in THAT organization, now, would we?
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Didn't they marry like a couple months after he FIRST reported he was notGay?
Yes. She was on his staff. Evidently, there was some speculation at the time that it was a "marriage of convenience". She had children from a previous marriage.
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"Young Frankenstein" was fabulous. I am NOT gay. I have never BEEN gay. Proof: I dreamed about Sutton Foster last night.
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The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied a request made by the Teamsters union, the Sierra Club and the nonprofit Public Citizen to halt the program.
Isn't that surprising for the 9th?
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The first Mexican trucking company truck involved in a bad accident is going to get tons of news coverage, and I feel sure Loud Obbs will flip out.
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I knew some Iranians back before the revolution. One girl, Zohrea, lovely person, told me her favorite tune was the commercial jingle "K-mart is your savings store."
Hahahaha!
I met a lot of Iranians post-revolution, in college. Oddly enough, none of them seemed to expect to go back to Iran. I mean, unlike my cubano in-laws, who all seem to expect to get back.
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Idaho is an interesting place....
On August 18, 2006, Otter married his longtime girlfriend Lori Easley in Meridian.[1] The two met in 1991 when Easley was Miss Idaho USA. Otter's first marriage was later annulled by the Catholic Church so that he could marry Easley, who is 25 years his junior. Otter had come under fire for this from some social conservatives, including Mark Ricks, a former Republican state senator and lieutenant governor.
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I'd love to see Craig's record collection. I can just imagine what he has in there.
Irving R. Feldman
Lots of show tunes? Judy Garland?
I'd like to see what his video and/or DVD collection consists of.
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Yes. She was on his staff. Evidently, there was some speculation at the time that it was a "marriage of convenience". She had children from a previous marriage.
Richard
I've seen a couple "how can he be gay if he has three kids?" defenses
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Otter's first marriage was later annulled by the Catholic Church so that he could marry Easley, who is 25 years his junior.
What the hell is WITH these rightards?
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Sen Larry Craig has resigned. End of the potty caper.
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Ahh, that was good...hehhe, ahhh, hunf, "reporting".*mphelplgh HAHAHAHA -ow, I pulled something.
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"For any public official at this moment in time to be standing with Larry Craig is in itself a humbling experience," Craig said.
I HAT that 3rd person shit
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Yes. She was on his staff. Evidently, there was some speculation at the time that it was a "marriage of convenience".
Oh, so it might be just a truly financial arrangement. How Republican.
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Sen Larry Craig has resigned. End of the potty caper.
Tune in next weeks, folks, for another addition of "NOT GAY REPUBLICANS!!!!"
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Along the way, I've met a few formerly married and had children men who came out as gay later in life.
Never asked for details about it.
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On August 18, 2006, Otter married his longtime girlfriend Lori Easley in Meridian.
OMG, Otter's nick is "Butch?"
Idaho is ENTIRELY GAY!
tikistitch |
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Bill Maher was only three minutes into his show last night when he brought up L'Affaire Craig.
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Says Craig:
I apologize for what I have caused. I am deeply sorry," Craig said, his wife Suzanne at his side.
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WTF?
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I've seen a couple "how can he be gay if he has three kids?" defenses
If she was still on his staff, why would he be reaching under the stall?
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Io, Saturnalia!!!
dave™©

OK, back to work for me.
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The "potty caper" will live in infamy.
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OMG, Otter's nick is "Butch?"
Idaho is ENTIRELY GAY!
tikistitch
I thought that was pretty funny, too.
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Why aren't you guys obsessing on the Hillary/Norman Tsu story?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
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Doesn't it prove that Hillary is the Manchurian Candidate, just like Rush says?
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WalterNeff, 10/15/07 | 09.01.07 - 1:56 pm | #
Me, too. It's ... weird.
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Just eight lives left.
http://www.cbs46.com/news/140236...650/
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Court: Mexican trucks program to proceed
SAN FRANCISCO - The Bush administration can go ahead with a pilot program to allow as many as 100 Mexican trucking companies to freely haul their cargo anywhere within the U.S. for the next year, a federal appeals court ruled Friday.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied a request made by the Teamsters union, the Sierra Club and the nonprofit Public Citizen to halt the program.
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Just wonderful. I'm guessing the Mexican trucks won't have to meet U.S. safety standards, nor will their drivers have to abide by U.S. rules about consecutive hours driving, etc.?
No cause for concern, I'm sure.
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Doesn't it prove that Hillary is the Manchurian Candidate, just like Rush says?
The Troll Collective
Proves Rush and all the mouthbreathers fear THE SCARY VAGINA.
And The Clinton Cleavage.
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Just wonderful. I'm guessing the Mexican trucks won't have to meet U.S. safety standards, nor will their drivers have to abide by U.S. rules about consecutive hours driving, etc.?
Yeah, but if the roads here get to be like the highways in Mexico, think of how much more *exciting* it will be to drive on the freeway! Yee-HAW!
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I'd love to see Craig's record collection. I can just imagine what he has in there.
Irving R. Feldman
Let's just say he never returned the Mitzi Gaynor LP....
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Doesn't it prove that Hillary is the Manchurian Candidate, just like Rush says?
Did Rush get this information from Neil "I never pay for teenage hookers!" Bush?
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Just eight lives left.
http://www.cbs46.com/news/140236...650/ detail.html
rMatey, buccaneer | 09.01.07 - 2:00 pm | #
Wow. Lucky kitty.
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Did Wiley and Gizmo exile Atrios or will he come back some day?
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I've seen a couple "how can he be gay if he has three kids?" defenses
They're hers not his. Like I said, marriage of convenience.
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President Bush called Craig from the White House after the senator's announcement and told him he knew it was a difficult decision to make, said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel
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The people of Idaho deserve a senator who can devote 100 percent of his time and effort to the critical issues of our state and of our nation," Craig said. "I have little control over what people choose to believe. But clearly my name is important to me, and my family is so very important also."
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Despite the increased scrutiny, the head of the Scouts' child abuse prevention program was convicted in 2005 of trafficking in child pornography.
Uh . . .
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Well, since Mexico has no controls on the sale of pseudoephedrine and a lot of Meth is made there, the drivers should have no problem staying awake.
Paranoia and Road Rage could be a problem.
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says that if terrorists detonated a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city while he was president he would retaliate "in a very dramatic and clear way."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Making solar reflectors out of the middle east.
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Mark Ricks, a former Republican state senator and lieutenant governor.
I've heard that "Butch" might appoint Ricks to succeed Craig.
Just to get him the hell out of Idaho.
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No cause for concern, I'm sure.
Barbarism Begins at Home
specially the whole insurance thing... no problems here.
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Let's just say he never returned the Mitzi Gaynor LP....
fabulous gay guy | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 2:01 pm | #
There you go again with that Mitzi Gaynor obsession ...
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says that if terrorists detonated a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city while he was president he would retaliate "in a very dramatic and clear way."
That hair dye Mitt uses has soaked into his brain, I fear.
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time to open the eschaton-euro site?
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Despite the increased scrutiny, the head of the Scouts' child abuse prevention program was convicted in 2005 of trafficking in child pornography.
Uh . . .
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Sparkle Plenty
And please tell me, to eagle scout what this medal was for...?
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Did Wiley and Gizmo exile Atrios or will he come back some day?
Some day, Wiley and Gizmo will start their own blog,and we will learn the true story of what really goes on at Casa de Atrios!
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Let's just say he never returned the Mitzi Gaynor LP....
My money is on an autographed "Liza with a Z"
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Craig said. "I have little control over what people choose to believe."
What people choose to believe?
MAJOR denial here, folks.
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...and my autographed Shirley Bassey Live at Studio 54.
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Risch. Idaho's Lieutenant Governor.
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he would retaliate "in a very dramatic and clear way."
Dems would of course all say "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
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When it comes to potatoes, you really should only boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.
rorschach, the boom king
I likes 'em baked!
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs | 09.01.07 - 1:
in about 10 minutes, i'm gonna be frying some 1/4" sliced potatoes in a buttered skillet with some onions and peppers...
to go with a nicely aged ribeye, and an ice cold fermented beverage.
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says that if terrorists detonated a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city while he was president he would retaliate "in a very dramatic and clear way."
So, say it's some crazy home-grown guys like the ones who blew up the building in Oklahoma City--what's Mitt gonna do? Nuke the state? Better yet--Radical Mormons! Yeah, I can see Mitt doing something to Utah . . ..
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Craig said. "I have little control over what people choose to believe."
He added, "I have even less control over whom I find sexually attractive."
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I heard from an anonymous source that Kay Orr, Nebraska governor, was also called 'Butch' by her friends.
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fabulous gay guy ..
Just for you.
With costumes by Bob Mackie.
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says that if terrorists detonated a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city while he was president he would retaliate "in a very dramatic and clear way."
Jesus Fuck
that picture of Mitt shows the same smirk that we see from Bush every day.
Enough already.
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We have a nice Buck Rogers-y Mormon Temple not far from here.
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Afternoon, all
The new desk is installed. The compute is moved. The room is 99% completed. PTL!
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Craig said. "I have little control over what people choose to believe."
"And even less control on who I'm hitting on in the shitter next to me."
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White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said President Bush called Craig after the press conference. "He told him he knew it was a difficult decision for him and he wished him well." Stanzel said the White House position is that "Senator Craig made the right decision for himself, his family, his constituents and the U.S. Senate."
Yeah. Do the right thing, Pres. Bush and Darth Cheney.
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With costumes by Bob Mackie.
Brooklyn Girl
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heh
I am still grinning from that one
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Congratulations, DWD! Nice to have you back.
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larry craig to karl rove when told to resign during the traditional friday evening wingnut news dump: "but i'm a cheerleader!"
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President Bush called Craig from the White House after the senator's announcement and told him he knew it was a difficult decision to make, said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel
"Where do we go from here?
This isn't where we intended to be
We had it all, you believed in me
I believed in you
Certainties disappear
What do we do for our dream to survive?
How do we keep all our passions alive,
As we used to do?
Deep in my heart I'm concealing
Things that I'm longing to say
Scared to confess what I'm feeling
Frightened you'll slip away
You must love me
You must love me"
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Wasn't Baden-Powell a little too interested in his boy scouts? Also, why isn't there a girl scout merit badge in oral sex? This seems more important to a stable adult relationship than knitting or basket weaving.
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abulous gay guy ..
Just for you.
With costumes by Bob Mackie.
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The best cheesy seventies musical number evah is from Mary Tyler Moore's variety show.
MTM sings "With A Little Love" featuring her supporting cast as back up singers, including...David Letterman.
You can just read in Letterman's face the whole time "I gotta get another job". I wonder how much he's paid to buy up the copies. It ain't on YouTube.
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on romney...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Making solar reflectors out of the middle east.
rMatey, buccaneer | 09.01.07 - 2:02 pm | #
if we turned enough of that sand into reflectors, we could probably reverse global warming by beaming back into space an enormous amount of heat.
maybe the prom king is onto something...
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Jesus Fuck
that picture of Mitt shows the same smirk that we see from Bush every day.
Enough already.
Nancy Willing
Same vacant, soulless eyes.
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says that if terrorists detonated a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city while he was president he would retaliate "in a very dramatic and clear way."
Would the Romney brats finally enlist is what I wanna know?
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Melissa Manchester performed at The Clark County Fair in Vancouver, WA recently. It almost made me sad, even tho' if I ever had to hear "Midnight Blue" again I'd go postal.
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Flanked by Snow and Perino in the White House press room, the president spoke warmly of his departing press secretary.
"It's been a joy to watch him prevaricate and obfuscate with you," Bush told reporters. Video
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You can just read in Letterman's face the whole time "I gotta get another job". I wonder how much he's paid to buy up the copies. It ain't on YouTube.
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Oh boy. That would be fun to see.
I'd also like to find footage of the Carol Burnett Curtain Rod dress ...
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Would the Romney brats finally enlist is what I wanna know?
Shit, no. They might take second wives, however, to ensure that the country can be re-populated quickly.
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Plantsman,
It is lovely to be "home" again. Two weeks is a long time to be displaced from one's environment. You know?
But the place looks great.
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Same vacant, soulless eyes.
Terry C - Wingnuts R Whackjobs
Just another born again xtian type.
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No cause for concern, I'm sure.
Barbarism Begins at Home
specially the whole insurance thing... no problems here.
Irving R. Feldman
That and drug cartels seem to run a lot of border towns. All Bushco projects seem to have a drug sideline.
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They might take second wives, however, to ensure that the country can be re-populated quickly.
Well, then, as long as they make it into the new reality tv show on HBO, I'm OK witht that.
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larry craig, R - Idahomo 'i INTEND to resign on sept 30'...
what the fuck... doesn't sound so certain to me...
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Tony Snow said that he just paid off the house.
Wonder what he's gonna do for insurance now???
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Butch Otter opposed the Patriot Act.
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Tony Snow said that he just paid off the house.
Wonder what he's gonna do for insurance now???
rMatey, buccaneer
He hasn't much time left.
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I'd like to see what his video and/or DVD collection consists of.
Toilet Stall Stumpers 23
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We're still here?!
(Replenishes buffet table)
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Mrs DWD (the non-political person) was hot at Tony (NOT AS WHITE AS) Snow yesterday. When she heard that his $160K a year was not enough money to live on, she was livid. In her inestimable manner she equated that anyone NOT earning 160K was just a worthless person then. All nurses, med techs, teachers, principals, restaurant workers, factory workers, electricians and and and and
In short, 99% of Americans.
(And we wonder WTF?)
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Former President Jimmy Carter welcomed Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards to South Georgia on Wednesday, embracing the fellow Southerner as a kindred spirit on poverty and the environment.
Carter told The Associated Press afterward that it was too soon to make an endorsement in the race and that his comments were not meant as a criticism of other Democrats.
Edwards/Kucinich
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larry craig, R - Idahomo 'i INTEND to resign on sept 30'...
Bob Ney put off his resignation in the House long enough to secure certain retirement benefits. I wonder if Larry's quit date has to do with something similar.
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says that if terrorists detonated a nuclear bomb in a U.S. city while he was president he would retaliate "in a very dramatic and clear way."
Would the Romney brats finally enlist is what I wanna know?
tikistitch
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they all watch 24
Posed that scenario while campaigning Friday in this early primary state, Romney said he didn't want to say much more.
"The answer is you would retaliate and you'd retaliate in a very dramatic and clear way. I don't want to be terribly more specific than that," the former Massachusetts governor said.
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DWD, it was a most craven statement. But it's typical.
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i loathe pony blow, but what rat wouldn't jump off the sinking ship of state when it could grab say 10x the annual cash spewing wingnut babble esp. when facing a short earning period (cancer and/or being shunned by the media corps on a whim)?
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JUst returned from a crafts fair that may have been great but was so crowded we just could not enjoy. Think Canal St. on Saturday afternoon.
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while we chuckle over craig and vitter, the duhcider sez:
"I have authorized our military commanders in Iraq to confront Tehran's murderous activities. ... We've conducted operations against Iranian agents supplying lethal munitions to extremist groups."
dems.....silence.
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In short, 99% of Americans.
(And we wonder WTF?)
DWD - AT MY DESK
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AND WE WONDER indeed. And we vote, you'd thing SCOTUS would respect that.
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"The answer is you would retaliate and you'd retaliate in a very dramatic and clear way. I don't want to be terribly more specific than that," the former Massachusetts governor said.
Who would you retaliate against? How would you know who and when to attack?
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there is an article out that Iran is moving at a snails pace asfaras nukes so that it is becoming a non-issue.
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JUst returned from a crafts fair that may have been great but was so crowded we just could not enjoy. Think Canal St. on Saturday afternoon.
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Ugh ... do I have to?
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larry craig, R - Idahomo 'i INTEND to resign on sept 30'...
what the fuck... doesn't sound so certain to me...
fokowi at lake cabin
I think he'll get pushed out quicker then that, but I hope he's hangs in there.
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dems.....silence.
Ha . . . but you're on the case.
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The Bush administration has challenged a report for the US Congress which says Iraq has met only three of the 18 targets used to measure progress.
A Pentagon spokesman said officials had made some "factual corrections" and "offered some suggestions on a few of the actual grades".
Can you say 'sliding scale' or 'the new reality'?
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Who would you retaliate against? How would you know who and when to attack?
Snow, Liberal
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er, Bushco's attacking Iraq should answer that question
Mitt would hit whomever was up first on the Pentagon's list.
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Afternoon, rational people.
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Can you say 'sliding scale' or 'the new reality'?
rMatey, worthless person
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"let's kick O'Hanlon's ass down a slippery slope and see how he likes it"
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i loathe pony blow, but what rat wouldn't jump off the sinking ship of state when it could grab say 10x the annual cash spewing wingnut babble esp. when facing a short earning period
Plenty of people have exercised patriotism over failing health:
[Harry Hopkins] continued to live in the White House and saw the president more often than any other advisor. Although Hopkins' health --always poor--was steadily declining, Roosevelt sent him on
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