HULK SMASHED
But at least I beat liebniz.
"But what the DLC and Republicans (and most Blue Dogs) want is a bill that caves to all Bush's demands for warrantless wiretaps and retroactive immunity, basically, the shameful bill the Senate passed last month 68-29. What happens now is a conference with the Senate to hammer out a compromise.
So why did almost all the Blue Dogs support the House bill? They know it will never become law. Even if it ever managed to pass the Senate -- almost impossible -- Bush has vowed to veto it. So what happened? Sources in the House tell me that Pelosi, Hoyer and Emanuel promised the Blue Dogs that they would be on the reconciliation committee with the Senate charged with hammering out a compromise."
http://firedoglake.com/
Hello.
So Pelosi got to look good for once. She's earned it, she looks great when she says "And The President Knows It."
I got nuthin.
i got housecleaning to do and a 3 hour deadline to meeting expectations.
see ya!!!!
So Zapette is unplugged?
I wish I could run a marathon -- I was up to 34 miles a week last summer, but my broken ankle has been quite a major setback!
Hecate's birfdae? Also Editoress's (for the Facebook tells me so)
I disagree.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...-
activists.html
Obama and Clinton court Iowa activists.
The good Prior is dissin' my wife? 
nutroot-induced hilarity on steroids:
the spectacle of hate-speech- sensitive "progressives" circling the wagons for Obama's mentor and spiritual advisor for the last 20 years--Chicago black supremacist Reverend Jeremiah "God Damn America" Wright...
you go, numbnuts!
So why did almost all the Blue Dogs support the House bill? They know it will never become law.
I doubt this... they cast their vote, it's on the record. That's what they were afraid, and the "damage" is done, regardless of whether a decent bill comes out of conference, or Bush vetoes it or whatever.
They did the right thing and they (along with their Senate counterparts) deserve positive reinforcement to continue along the same path.
We've gotten so used to Democrats caving that whenever they surprise us we find ourselves saying... "okay, there's a really nasty surprise right around the corner."
Maybe this particular worm really has turned.
damn, a huge construction crane described as 25 stories tall by witnesses has collapsed in manhattan. at least 2 dead, others trapped and a couple of buildings destroyed/damaged.
Wholly shit, nona. That's terrible.
damn, a huge construction crane described as 25 stories tall by witnesses has collapsed in manhattan. at least 2 dead, others trapped and a couple of buildings destroyed/damaged.
nona
How can this be true when it's not all over the "breaking" cable news?
Zap -- no -- as you know, it is a reference to her I-book from downstairs (from the Mac-Monk)
you go, numbnuts!
Looking in the mirror and talking to itself again.
Stackdacka is a clown.
mer is not ..........
a muslim.
Yeah, I was just funnin' ya, Prior.
Looking forward to meeting you here in a few weeks.
I just hit on something from this whole "how Hillary answered" diatribe:
The thing with HRC - as it has been with most politicians for the past generation - is that they're first instinct is to answer EVERY question with guarded qualifiers:
Candidate X, is the sky blue?
X: That's a good question that gets to the diversity of the nation. Certainly, for many - especially those in drier climates - the sky tends to be blue quite often. However, in other places, residents have come to expect grey skies on a regular basis. Even here, we're often looking at a balance of blue skies and grey skies. And even the blue skies have white clouds more often than not."
What people hear in Obama is something else - a response that, while prosaic, isn't as filtered through the political Babelfish:
Mr. Obama, is the sky blue?
BHO: For you and I, absolutely - or if it isn't, we can fly to where it is. But there are plenty of folks right here in America living under grey skies - and a sense of perpetual Seasonal Affective Disorder. We return to the climate where skies clear quickly following even the worst storms.
nona - any further details, about where in manhattan?
Areas with Suburban McMansions
The Next Slum?
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/2...200803/
subprime
nona - any further details, about where in manhattan?
Stormysu
There's a brief story on the NYTimes website, but it surprises me that the cable TV types aren't all over it.
Pelosi, Hoyer and Emanuel promised the Blue Dogs that they would be on the reconciliation committee with the Senate charged with hammering out a compromise
Damn so telecoms will get their immunity and Pelosi doesn't look like the pushover that she is.
Here's the story about the crane collapse.
Stormysu --
it's around 51st and 2nd.
"There's a brief story on the NYTimes website, but it surprises me that the cable TV types aren't all over it."
--SteveLG
They're probably still in Atlanta with the hurricane story.
Zap -- yah -- I saw the emoticon -- likewise I'm sure
Now will check the Manhattan story ...
"mer is not ..........
a muslim."
--leibniz♘☮
How do know?
ny1 (the time warner local news outlet -- that is actually very good; hell, better than anything cnn or msnbc broadcast) has people calling in and sending in their photos.
http://firedoglake.com/
pigboy | 03.15.08 - 3:23 pm | #
I don't see that at your link.
So Reid and Pelosi pull a Friday Surprise on the GOP that's really a Saturday "fuck you" to Progressive Democrats?
And they whimper about how hard it is to retain "party loyalty."
If this is true, they can BOTH bite my hairy white ass.
Sheesh, the link Zap provided has people noting the smell of gas in the area.
Hopefully, their sniffers were wrong.
oh elliot spitzer:
shit man did ya have to?
http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot...er-gets-nailed/
The $200 billion bail-out for predator banks and Spitzer charges are intimately linked
By Greg Palast
Reporting for Air America Radio’s Clout
witnesses are saying a couple of walk-ups were crushed. it's a mixed nabe of highrises and old walkups/brownstones.
Some place called Fubar apparently leveled by the crane.
We don't know any Atriots that live in the neighborhood, do we?
I just got an e-mail that's headed "Electrify her with your rod."
I'll take it under advisement, I guess.
Bear Sterns for one welcomes our new Arab overlords.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne...eHb0&
refer=home
Here's the thing: give ONE sector RETROACTIVE IMMUNITY, and suddenly EVERY OTHER SECTOR is gonna demand the same.
Bad Chinese ingredients in your drugs? Sorry - Pharma has R.I.
Cars blow up because of faulty fuel line components? Sorry - Auto Industry has R.I.
Kids die from E Coli in their burgers? Sorry - Food Providers have R.I.
Retroactive Immunity will give the GOP EVERYTHING they've wanted through tort reform, and more - it will be an ABSOLUTE block to ANY lawsuits in the future.
there's a photo of a portion of the crane laying across what was formerly a walkup -- completely crushed and on either side are apt buildings.
walkups are usually 5-6 stories.
Good point, Roadmaster, I hadn't thought of that.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...t-is-
fired.html
911-Disaster priest is fired.
ZOMG! Terrorists are attacking us with cranes! Does their depravity know no bounds?
Boehlert would be right if she had actually said "of course not" and left it at that. But she didn't. She went on for a paragraph, diluting her certainty down to "there isn't any reason to doubt that." That was before he even asked again.
Kroft went overboard with his questioning - but he was taking advantage of her hedging, testing her. She failed the test. When it was all over, the viewer was left with the distinct impressing that while she was taking Obama at his word, she didn't have a problem with other people not taking him at his word if they so chose.
The media are bastards, but they do serve a useful purpose.
Again...he wasn't/is not a PRIEST!
I just got an e-mail that's headed "Electrify her with your rod."
I'll take it under advisement, I guess.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
omg. i work in a freaking research lab, and with all of those geniuses on staff, no one can figure out how to block that shit from our servers. i swear i get at least 100 of those friggin things a day. it is so repulsive.
The British teachers' union is objecting to a government program for a Iraq war lesson plan. Oddly, the American spelling of "program" is used in the government's material. Hmm. Pro-invasion propaganda
And, of course, Priority 1 will be assassinating the character of each and every one of the participants of the new Winter Soldier hearings as anti-American subversive lazy lying traitors, as was done for the first participants and regurgitated for the last election.
Thanks StevenLG and Nona. That's terrible.
Roadmaster - I fear you are very right.
I just got an e-mail that's headed "Electrify her with your rod."
"Don't tase me, bro!"
Editoress, heard through the grapevine it was your birthday too. Have a happy one, if that's possible at this time in history.
Hey, does anyone have any information on rod electrifiers that might be applied to women?
re-freakin'-HICA!
.
God damn war criminal George Bush ruined my birthday because that is when he started his slaughter of Iraqi civilians.
"Don't tase me, bro!"
I just started watching the Winter Soldier video stream. Some pro-Palestinian woman just delivered her rant. Sure she represents an under-reported point of view that deserves inspection, but sheesh, she sees the world through blinders, insisting every conflict in the Middle East is ultimately caused by Israel's war with the Palestinians. Somehow I doubt that the forum intended to tell the truth about Iraq was enhanced by someone with their own lack of wider vision. I tend to run like hell whenever the Israel/Palestine argument inserts itself into the Iraq antiwar movement, it derails the whole train.
How can Obama expect to win the election if he can't even win the CA primary?
CA-Pres
Mar 14 Rasmussen
Obama (D) 53%, McCain (R) 38%
CA-Pres
Mar 14 Rasmussen
Clinton (D) 46%, McCain (R) 39%
Oh. Well, never mind.
I heard some of the winter soldiers' testimony yesterday, including this part, which I wrote about elsewhere:
I was listening to the parents of an Iraq war veteran who came home, fell apart and ultimately killed himself because of things he said he'd done or witnessed in Iraq. Their testimony (at the winter soldiers' gathering) made me weep, as a parent and as an American. The mother broke down telling of their inability to get help for their son, who was 23 when he died. The father told how he occasionally cradled his grown, weeping son in his lap and ended by describing one such cradling and then said the next day was the last time he touched his son, as he removed his son's body from the rafter from which he'd hung himself. Heartbreaking doesn't begin to describe this father's words and pain.
There was another story told by a weeping veteran of Afghanistan, who, if I understood him correctly, accidentally called in a mortar strike on a village because he'd misread his compass settings.
We can expect to read more about atrocities once we pull away from Iraq. Thanks to the obscene profits demanded by newspaper owners and their sudden determination to go local and abandon all national and foreign coverage, fewer and fewer reporters are covering Iraq and Afghanistan or anything else. But eventually, we'll learn more and we'll be ashamed. Or should be. War is hell.
I'm going to go start my gruel for dinner tonight, since that getting to be all we can afford.
Friggin' peanut oil is up to $12 a gallon from $8 a couple of weeks ago.
Roadmaster - I fear you are very right.
Stormysu
Every other business sector will clain (rightfully) that by giving telecoms RI, they get a distinct economic advantage (how much does it cost industry for defense against product liability claims?) - and Wall Street will shriek and moan that this lack of a level regulatory playing field is dragging down equity and investment...*especially* for those politicians with significant investments (nudge nudge, wink wink).
This MUST NOT PASS - for if it does, Americans will have NO recourse through the legal system in this country.
And some of those without legal recourse may seek recourse though less-than-legal means.
Which opens the doors for more private security services...See where this is going?
So it would have been all right if Rev Wright had said, "God bless America for treating our citizens as less than human." instead of God damn? I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
For Thers:
the information on rod electrifiers you requested.
Hey, does anyone have any information on rod electrifiers that might be applied to women?
Thers | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 3:54 pm | #
Yes. (Not kid safe).
It's also the anniversary of the My Lai massacre.
And some of those without legal recourse may seek recourse though less-than-legal means.
Not if dirty fucking hippies can get retroactive immunity.
Hey, does anyone have any information on rod electrifiers that might be applied to women?
Thers
I wouldn't let her have the remote if she was the least bit angry.
I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
It wasn't. The whole deal is to get the peeps out there to doubt Obama.
The Muslim question to Hill on 60 Minutes was another.
Get the little gray doubts to creep into more and more of the electorate's collective mind.
Same with the Swift-boating of John Kerry.
I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
George Johnston | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:00 pm | #
it's only controversial because the repigs don't have a prayer of taking down the dems without concocting lies, smears, outrageous lies and smears, and fearful lies and smears. Fortunately, the American people have had 7 years of all of the above, and are quite completely tired of it and inured to it. Even Lubyanker knows full well that he's just rabble-rousing, in a lame attempt to save his party from extinction.
Hey, does anyone have any information on rod electrifiers
The surge is working.
it's only controversial because the repigs don't have a prayer of taking down the dems without concocting lies, smears, outrageous lies and smears, and fearful lies and smears. Fortunately, the American people have had 7 years of all of the above, and are quite completely tired of it and inured to it. Even Lubyanker knows full well that he's just rabble-rousing, in a lame attempt to save his party from extinction.
ronjazz hussein | 03.15.08 - 4:06 pm | #
I sincerely hope you're right.
Roadie,
Sorry you couldn't come up for the show tonight. It's probably a good thing, though. Everyone in Minneapolis and St. Paul is currently drunk.
Retroactive immunity is particularly important to Republican office holders and appointees.
THIS MUST NOT PASS, for if it does Americans will have no legal recourse....
which is of course the goal of the malAdministration
& Co.horts.
It is so warped, like chimpy yesterday lecturing us on allowing the market to work out the unfair kinks among us little people right after bailing out Bear Stearns, ARGGH, etc
OK, I'm off for a few. While I'm gone, please consider what the true cost of war might look like if the White House ever released the numbers.
I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
George Johnston
Well, most Xians are not accustomed to hearing the n-word in crutch.
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
I don't.
Jesus, bg, I thought it was a joke.
Looks like the "shine" is rubbing off Obama! Ha-ha
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
It prevented the media from saying "war hero John Kerry" the way they now so freely say "war hero John McCain"
I think that Atrios' position about airing our religious differences is just the remedy. Let's open the "white" churches up and find out what they're saying. Whoo! People will drop this Wright "controversy" like a hot potato.
Bugs
Looks like your mama's abortion was a failure.
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
I don't.
Zap Rowsdower
Yes, my stupid fucking relatives on my wife's side. I tried to explain that it was a pack of lies but they would rather listen to the lies than the truth. The lies are much more fun.
Another mistake???
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/1...cs/
15obama.html
Obama Describes Developer Deal as a Mistake
By JEFF ZELENY
WASHINGTON - Senator Barack Obama said Friday that he had made repeated lapses of judgment in dealing with an indicted Chicago real estate developer, Antoin Rezko, and acknowledged that Mr. Rezko had raised more money for his political campaigns than he had previously disclosed.
Mr. Rezko, who is on trial on federal corruption charges, had raised as much as $250,000 for Mr. Obama during his first three political races. Previously, Mr. Obama's campaign estimated that Mr. Rezko had raised about $150,000 for him.
In an interview with The Chicago Tribune that was posted on the newspaper's Web site on Friday evening, Mr. Obama said he had made a mistake by engaging in a real estate deal with Mr. Rezko. The deal involved a new home Mr. Obama and his family bought in Chicago in 2005; Mr. Rezko acquired an adjacent parcel of land to help complete the sale.
Pelosi, Hoyer and Emanuel promised the Blue Dogs that they would be on the reconciliation committee with the Senate charged with hammering out a compromise."
Shit.
"bbbbut - I thought he was the candidate of good judgement"
An add on the local classic rock radio station praised our two Republican senators for voting against "raising energy taxes" apparently glad the money is going outside the country rather than into our own coffers. This was courtesy of the "National Taxpayers Union." So they're already working the electorate. Are we?
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
I don't.
Zap Rowsdower
Nor I. Not surprising.
Like you, I avoid people who are having animated conversations with imaginary people and foaming at the mouth.
I sincerely hope you're right.
Brooklyn Girl | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:07 pm | #
i'm only right if we all stand up to the cowards, and don't let them sway us with their bullshit. Part of the reason Hillary and Obama have had such a nasty campaign is the media spin on everything, and the inability for either candidate to get their message out without resorting to negativity. It's a system badly weighted against us, even though we're in the strong majority.
Jesus, bg, I thought it was a joke.
qlª | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:10 pm | #
What? The rod thing?
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
The point is not to convince, but to suck up energy and distract the media morons. Also it drives people away by making them think "everyone is rotten," so they don't vote.
There was an article out there a while ago that showed that a significant number people agreed with Kerry on policy, but they thought it was pointless to vote for him because nothing good ever comes from the government anyway. So they voted for Bush.
Cynicism is a GOP weapon.
"again it is Obama who made personality a campaign issue"
He said his judgement is better that others
if that isn't true - and it obviously is not, I would guess he might be in some trouble
i'm only right if we all stand up to the cowards, and don't let them sway us with their bullshit. Part of the reason Hillary and Obama have had such a nasty campaign is the media spin on everything, and the inability for either candidate to get their message out without resorting to negativity. It's a system badly weighted against us, even though we're in the strong majority.
ronjazz hussein | 03.15.08 - 4:13 pm | #
It's the "strong majority" that I hope you're right about. I'm concerned that we may have a weak majority.
Cynicism is a GOP weapon.
Thers
Which is why Atrios has the stupidest trolls on the Intertubes.
"bbbbut - I thought he was the candidate of good judgement"
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:13 pm | #
are you talking about the Keating Five-Lobbyist fucking mcStain, the phony POW? Or the current disaster, the "thanks for 9/11" Bush moron? Which one? Or are you resorting to your usual racist drivel because you don't have the brains that most turds do?
Everyone in Minneapolis and St. Paul is currently drunk.
Zap Rowsdower |
And with the RI BS info, I'd probably want to use the 242K Park Avenue to pick off any of them that look like they came from Edina or Minnetonka, just to rid the planet of a few obnoxious Wingers.
omg. i work in a freaking research lab, and with all of those geniuses on staff, no one can figure out how to block that shit from our servers. i swear i get at least 100 of those friggin things a day. it is so repulsive.
nona | 03.15.08 - 3:50 pm |
One of our affiliated mailing listed got spammed, and first it was annoying, now it's the penis enlargement stuff. Their IT team swears they'll have something in place by later this month.
Oh, hell, according to what I am seeing (though it is nothing new) we have our work cut out for us. John McCain though he is a liar (proven time after time) a religious bigot (time and time again) and a womanizer (time after time) and an underhanded double dealer in influence (Time after time) and a serial breaker of the last (time after time) is now being praised while the Democratic candidates are being damned for something their supporters said.
And you really think you can fight the media?
How?
The same slime that parse Clinton's answers over and over again looking for some prevarication accept the bald faced lies of the shitstains Bush, Cheney, and McBush without the slightest hesitation.
He said his judgement is better that others
if that isn't true - and it obviously is not, I would guess he might be in some trouble
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:15 pm | #
well, you're quite wrong, aren't you? His judgment is perfectly adequate, compared to the massive failure you clowns have been fellating for 7 years.
Obama graduated from the most prestigious prep-school in Hawaii, graduated from Columbia, went on to Harvard Law school - how ccould a person with so much education join such as racist "church" as the one led by Mr. Wright? And now he disavows his "spiritual mentor" of 20 years???? One wonders what are his true convictions because this is only damage control.
Looks like the "shine" is rubbing off Obama! Ha-ha
Not even a little bit, jack-dick.
Hillary can't catch Obama. She will go the the Dem Convention behind in delegates and the popular vote.
Obama's won more states.
Guess what that means, ignatz?
Come on, you can say it, Rove, Jr.
Happy birthday Hecate (& Editoress in abstentia) Am off to celebrate mine just passed (on the 6th) & my sister 's ( on the 12th) with SO and Kidz over at mom's. Back for more (mostly lurking!) later.
Ha! I kept wondering when someone was going to notice that Boehlert was "unmutual."
That links been there about a week now...
Hecate -
Check my 3:47 and 3:59 comments.
Have any Bar Associations taken positions against RI? And could RI's constitutionality be challenged?
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
I don't.
Zap Rowsdower
They don't really have to convince anyone, though they'll convince a few. All they have to do is offer an excuse to the racists fuckwits for not voting for Obama, even they know he would be the better president. this way they can feel better about themselves. See, it's not me who is a racist, it's BHO.
I think it will be used and used and used. But it's still early times yet. Perhaps it can be overcome. I'm just not that sure.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:17 pm | #
what proof or evidence have you that his church is racist, especially given the racism you demonstrate? are you projecting, or just lying?
Stormysu,
Thank you so much! Has the Editoress been around today?
The point is not to convince, but to suck up energy and distract the media morons. Also it drives people away by making them think "everyone is rotten," so they don't vote.
Indeed. And it's made me change the channel. I can't watch CNN anymore. I can't watch MSNBC anymore.
When I heard that Sirius Satellite Radio had launched a 24/7 channel devoted to the Eliot Spitzer sex scandal (("Client 9 Radio"--no you really can't make this stuff up) I thought I would throw up.
I don't know what's worse, the media or the GOP.
Guess what that means, ignatz?
Come on, you can say it, Rove, Jr.
billy b>>
Say hello to President McCain!
Cynicism is a GOP weapon.
Yeah, you're right. And so is lying. It's remarkable what those two things can do together.
Happy birfday, Hacate! *mwah*
Say hello to President McCain!
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:19 pm | #
sorry, racist, learn to say President Barack Hussein Obama, you'll be saying it for 8 years.
And you really think you can fight the media?
How?
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution
More and bigger tornadoes.
Insane McCain can't win. Of course, there is nothing stopping the Repigs from stealing another one.
Hecate -
I have not seen Editoress on these threads yet today, but many have sent her best wishes!
Insane McCain can't win. Of course, there is nothing stopping the Repigs from stealing another one.
George Johnston | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:20 pm | #
actually, there is. the Congress will stop it this time.
what proof or evidence have you that his church is racist, especially given the racism you demonstrate? are you projecting, or just lying?
yes, exactly.
Today I posted on my strong objection to the attacks on Rev. Wright ("Who Will Rid Me Of This Troublesome Priest?") and immediately got two comments telling me that Wright is a bigot and "black liberation theology" is heresy. How does anyone know?
Oh, and sorry for the back-to-back blogwhores, I've been busy lately.
And glad birthday tidings to you and your green & purple gardens, Hecate.
Let's talk double standard. Imgagine if Rev. Jeremiah Wright was Clinton's pastor. She'd be drummed out of the race.
Insane McCain can't win. Of course, there is nothing stopping the Repigs from stealing another one.
Ari "We've got $250 Million...and we'll spend it!" Fleisher will make damn sure that they go down trying.
Roadmaster,
I'm not sure; it's way outside my area. My guess is that they'll be challenged, but I don't know how successfully, esp. w/ this SCOTUS
Say hello to President McCain!
Little Karl, McDoucheBag couldn't get elected dog catcher.
Obama leads in all polls, also. Hows about them road apples, Bugs Rove?
comments telling me that Wright is a bigot and "black liberation theology" is heresy. How does anyone know?
they don't know. they are racist scum, projecting their own mental illness, and the usual rightwing fear that leads them to run from attacks, like Bush did.
I'm here now but sorry to have just read this. Are all of Eschatonians okay?
Crane Topples in Midtown Manhattan, Killing at Least 2 People
By THE NEW YORK TIMES 16 minutes ago
A large crane at a construction site, which looked to be at least 15 stories tall, appeared to have fallen across a street and crashed into other buildings near 51st Street and 2nd Avenue.
Hecate,
May you have as many birthdays as you wish and may each be more glorious. May each day bring more peace and wisdom and friends to share these things with along the way.
Peace.
What is Sphere.com? They linked to my Rev. Wright post and I've gotten about 100 hits from it in the last hour.
Let's talk double standard. Imgagine if Rev. Jeremiah Wright was Clinton's pastor. She'd be drummed out of the race.
Everything Wright said was true, you green-toof redneck.
Let's talk double standard. Imgagine if Rev. Jeremiah Wright was Clinton's pastor. She'd be drummed out of the race.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:22 pm | #
let's talk double standard. Hagee, anyone? Robertson, anyone? Wright spoke the truth, something you rightwingers fear because it never goes for you.
In his book, Obama himself calls Jerimiah Wright his "mentor" and "Spiritual guide." He said he had never been able to accept any organized religion till he walked into Wright's church. A church that has an non-negotiable commitment to Africa, no mention of any commitment to America, and is based on the "Black Value System" and lead by a pastor who is a radical anti-American and racist. Obama himself said he related to this man and his teaching. He has been his "advisor" for 20 years. He named his book after one of his sermon titles. He cannot disassociate himself from the man's teachings unless he denounces his membership from the church...which BTW, Wright has retired from recently. Very Recently.
Remember the Purple Heart bandages? That's exactly what this is all over again. But like I said, it's early times yet.
Hecate's having a birthday?
Happy, happy birthday!!!
Editoress,
And a happy birthday to you as well. Tis a glorious day here, hope it is wherever you are as well.
Enjoy.
Editoress,
Happy B/Day!
Thank you Zap and DWD and everyone for the wonderful wishes. I'm off for bit, back later I hope.
Hecate, happy birthday to you! I spent the morning shuttling the kid, then got a haircut and now have to rush to work...other than that, I'm fattening myself up with a large chunk of pie!
Everything Wright said was true, you green-toof redneck.
billy b
------
billy b, You hate america too?
My guess is that they'll be challenged, but I don't know how successfully, esp. w/ this SCOTUS
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
That's what I thought - and feared - you would say.
Do you agree, though, that granting RI to one sector just invites RI to be granted across-the-board to any sector deemed of "benefit to the operations of the federal government?"
Has anyone ever questioned what Bush's pastor says?
Oh, wait. He doesn't have one.
Never mind.
Shorter Bugs Rove, Jr.
Waaaahhh!!!!!
WAaaahhhhh!!!
Suck on your widdle thumb, titty baby.
Remember the Purple Heart bandages? That's exactly what this is all over again. But like I said, it's early times yet.
qlª
My Dad got the Purple Heart during WWII. It was like watching Republicans spit on him when they did that at their convention.
By damn, Bugs... you are such a persuasive fellow.
Difference this time around is that there is no "architect" and definitely no "math".
(yes, I know that Rover is doing some freelancing for McCain, but I doubt enough to make a difference)
billy b, You hate america too?
Now, the Rove is starting to show thru.
heh.
...let's talk double standard. Hagee, anyone? Robertson, anyone?
No fucking shit.
And Robertson and Falwell weren't criticizing the actions of the "government" - they were pinning the blame on American citizens they just didn't fucking like.
And why? To solicit more money.
Remember the Purple Heart bandages?
Yes I like to trot that picture out at appropriate times, like when the GOP is waving the flag especially furiously and toutint its "support the troops" yellow ribbons.
It's hard to forget Pat Peale, Rove's lap dog.