HULK SMASH!!!
But at least I beat liebniz.
"But what the DLC and Republicans (and most Blue Dogs) want is a bill that caves to all Bush's demands for warrantless wiretaps and retroactive immunity, basically, the shameful bill the Senate passed last month 68-29. What happens now is a conference with the Senate to hammer out a compromise.
So why did almost all the Blue Dogs support the House bill? They know it will never become law. Even if it ever managed to pass the Senate -- almost impossible -- Bush has vowed to veto it. So what happened? Sources in the House tell me that Pelosi, Hoyer and Emanuel promised the Blue Dogs that they would be on the reconciliation committee with the Senate charged with hammering out a compromise."
http://firedoglake.com/
Hello.
So Pelosi got to look good for once. She's earned it, she looks great when she says "And The President Knows It."
I got nuthin.
i got housecleaning to do and a 3 hour deadline to meeting expectations.
see ya!!!!
So Zapette is unplugged?
I wish I could run a marathon -- I was up to 34 miles a week last summer, but my broken ankle has been quite a major setback!
Hecate's birfdae? Also Editoress's (for the Facebook tells me so)
I disagree.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...-
activists.html
Obama and Clinton court Iowa activists.
The good Prior is dissin' my wife? 
nutroot-induced hilarity on steroids:
the spectacle of hate-speech- sensitive "progressives" circling the wagons for Obama's mentor and spiritual advisor for the last 20 years--Chicago black supremacist Reverend Jeremiah "God Damn America" Wright...
you go, numbnuts!
So why did almost all the Blue Dogs support the House bill? They know it will never become law.
I doubt this... they cast their vote, it's on the record. That's what they were afraid, and the "damage" is done, regardless of whether a decent bill comes out of conference, or Bush vetoes it or whatever.
They did the right thing and they (along with their Senate counterparts) deserve positive reinforcement to continue along the same path.
We've gotten so used to Democrats caving that whenever they surprise us we find ourselves saying... "okay, there's a really nasty surprise right around the corner."
Maybe this particular worm really has turned.
damn, a huge construction crane described as 25 stories tall by witnesses has collapsed in manhattan. at least 2 dead, others trapped and a couple of buildings destroyed/damaged.
Wholly shit, nona. That's terrible.
damn, a huge construction crane described as 25 stories tall by witnesses has collapsed in manhattan. at least 2 dead, others trapped and a couple of buildings destroyed/damaged.
nona
How can this be true when it's not all over the "breaking" cable news?
Zap -- no -- as you know, it is a reference to her I-book from downstairs (from the Mac-Monk)
you go, numbnuts!
Looking in the mirror and talking to itself again.
Stackdacka is a clown.
mer is not ..........
a muslim.
Yeah, I was just funnin' ya, Prior.
Looking forward to meeting you here in a few weeks.
I just hit on something from this whole "how Hillary answered" diatribe:
The thing with HRC - as it has been with most politicians for the past generation - is that they're first instinct is to answer EVERY question with guarded qualifiers:
Candidate X, is the sky blue?
X: That's a good question that gets to the diversity of the nation. Certainly, for many - especially those in drier climates - the sky tends to be blue quite often. However, in other places, residents have come to expect grey skies on a regular basis. Even here, we're often looking at a balance of blue skies and grey skies. And even the blue skies have white clouds more often than not."
What people hear in Obama is something else - a response that, while prosaic, isn't as filtered through the political Babelfish:
Mr. Obama, is the sky blue?
BHO: For you and I, absolutely - or if it isn't, we can fly to where it is. But there are plenty of folks right here in America living under grey skies - and a sense of perpetual Seasonal Affective Disorder. We return to the climate where skies clear quickly following even the worst storms.
nona - any further details, about where in manhattan?
Areas with Suburban McMansions
The Next Slum?
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/2...200803/
subprime
nona - any further details, about where in manhattan?
Stormysu
There's a brief story on the NYTimes website, but it surprises me that the cable TV types aren't all over it.
Pelosi, Hoyer and Emanuel promised the Blue Dogs that they would be on the reconciliation committee with the Senate charged with hammering out a compromise
Damn so telecoms will get their immunity and Pelosi doesn't look like the pushover that she is.
Here's the story about the crane collapse.
Stormysu --
it's around 51st and 2nd.
"There's a brief story on the NYTimes website, but it surprises me that the cable TV types aren't all over it."
--SteveLG
They're probably still in Atlanta with the hurricane story.
Zap -- yah -- I saw the emoticon -- likewise I'm sure
Now will check the Manhattan story ...
"mer is not ..........
a muslim."
--leibniz♘☮
How do know?
ny1 (the time warner local news outlet -- that is actually very good; hell, better than anything cnn or msnbc broadcast) has people calling in and sending in their photos.
http://firedoglake.com/
pigboy | 03.15.08 - 3:23 pm | #
I don't see that at your link.
So Reid and Pelosi pull a Friday Surprise on the GOP that's really a Saturday "fuck you" to Progressive Democrats?
And they whimper about how hard it is to retain "party loyalty."
If this is true, they can BOTH bite my hairy white ass.
Sheesh, the link Zap provided has people noting the smell of gas in the area.
Hopefully, their sniffers were wrong.
oh elliot spitzer:
shit man did ya have to?
http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot...er-gets-nailed/
The $200 billion bail-out for predator banks and Spitzer charges are intimately linked
By Greg Palast
Reporting for Air America Radio’s Clout
witnesses are saying a couple of walk-ups were crushed. it's a mixed nabe of highrises and old walkups/brownstones.
Some place called Fubar apparently leveled by the crane.
We don't know any Atriots that live in the neighborhood, do we?
I just got an e-mail that's headed "Electrify her with your rod."
I'll take it under advisement, I guess.
Bear Sterns for one welcomes our new Arab overlords.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne...eHb0&
refer=home
Here's the thing: give ONE sector RETROACTIVE IMMUNITY, and suddenly EVERY OTHER SECTOR is gonna demand the same.
Bad Chinese ingredients in your drugs? Sorry - Pharma has R.I.
Cars blow up because of faulty fuel line components? Sorry - Auto Industry has R.I.
Kids die from E Coli in their burgers? Sorry - Food Providers have R.I.
Retroactive Immunity will give the GOP EVERYTHING they've wanted through tort reform, and more - it will be an ABSOLUTE block to ANY lawsuits in the future.
there's a photo of a portion of the crane laying across what was formerly a walkup -- completely crushed and on either side are apt buildings.
walkups are usually 5-6 stories.
Good point, Roadmaster, I hadn't thought of that.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...t-is-
fired.html
911-Disaster priest is fired.
ZOMG! Terrorists are attacking us with cranes! Does their depravity know no bounds?
Boehlert would be right if she had actually said "of course not" and left it at that. But she didn't. She went on for a paragraph, diluting her certainty down to "there isn't any reason to doubt that." That was before he even asked again.
Kroft went overboard with his questioning - but he was taking advantage of her hedging, testing her. She failed the test. When it was all over, the viewer was left with the distinct impressing that while she was taking Obama at his word, she didn't have a problem with other people not taking him at his word if they so chose.
The media are bastards, but they do serve a useful purpose.
Again...he wasn't/is not a PRIEST!
I just got an e-mail that's headed "Electrify her with your rod."
I'll take it under advisement, I guess.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
omg. i work in a freaking research lab, and with all of those geniuses on staff, no one can figure out how to block that shit from our servers. i swear i get at least 100 of those friggin things a day. it is so repulsive.
The British teachers' union is objecting to a government program for a Iraq war lesson plan. Oddly, the American spelling of "program" is used in the government's material. Hmm. Pro-invasion propaganda
And, of course, Priority 1 will be assassinating the character of each and every one of the participants of the new Winter Soldier hearings as anti-American subversive lazy lying traitors, as was done for the first participants and regurgitated for the last election.
Thanks StevenLG and Nona. That's terrible.
Roadmaster - I fear you are very right.
I just got an e-mail that's headed "Electrify her with your rod."
"Don't tase me, bro!"
Editoress, heard through the grapevine it was your birthday too. Have a happy one, if that's possible at this time in history.
Hey, does anyone have any information on rod electrifiers that might be applied to women?
re-freakin'-HICA!
.
God damn war criminal George Bush ruined my birthday because that is when he started his slaughter of Iraqi civilians.
"Don't tase me, bro!"
I just started watching the Winter Soldier video stream. Some pro-Palestinian woman just delivered her rant. Sure she represents an under-reported point of view that deserves inspection, but sheesh, she sees the world through blinders, insisting every conflict in the Middle East is ultimately caused by Israel's war with the Palestinians. Somehow I doubt that the forum intended to tell the truth about Iraq was enhanced by someone with their own lack of wider vision. I tend to run like hell whenever the Israel/Palestine argument inserts itself into the Iraq antiwar movement, it derails the whole train.
How can Obama expect to win the election if he can't even win the CA primary?
CA-Pres
Mar 14 Rasmussen
Obama (D) 53%, McCain (R) 38%
CA-Pres
Mar 14 Rasmussen
Clinton (D) 46%, McCain (R) 39%
Oh. Well, never mind.
I heard some of the winter soldiers' testimony yesterday, including this part, which I wrote about elsewhere:
I was listening to the parents of an Iraq war veteran who came home, fell apart and ultimately killed himself because of things he said he'd done or witnessed in Iraq. Their testimony (at the winter soldiers' gathering) made me weep, as a parent and as an American. The mother broke down telling of their inability to get help for their son, who was 23 when he died. The father told how he occasionally cradled his grown, weeping son in his lap and ended by describing one such cradling and then said the next day was the last time he touched his son, as he removed his son's body from the rafter from which he'd hung himself. Heartbreaking doesn't begin to describe this father's words and pain.
There was another story told by a weeping veteran of Afghanistan, who, if I understood him correctly, accidentally called in a mortar strike on a village because he'd misread his compass settings.
We can expect to read more about atrocities once we pull away from Iraq. Thanks to the obscene profits demanded by newspaper owners and their sudden determination to go local and abandon all national and foreign coverage, fewer and fewer reporters are covering Iraq and Afghanistan or anything else. But eventually, we'll learn more and we'll be ashamed. Or should be. War is hell.
I'm going to go start my gruel for dinner tonight, since that getting to be all we can afford.
Friggin' peanut oil is up to $12 a gallon from $8 a couple of weeks ago.
Roadmaster - I fear you are very right.
Stormysu
Every other business sector will clain (rightfully) that by giving telecoms RI, they get a distinct economic advantage (how much does it cost industry for defense against product liability claims?) - and Wall Street will shriek and moan that this lack of a level regulatory playing field is dragging down equity and investment...*especially* for those politicians with significant investments (nudge nudge, wink wink).
This MUST NOT PASS - for if it does, Americans will have NO recourse through the legal system in this country.
And some of those without legal recourse may seek recourse though less-than-legal means.
Which opens the doors for more private security services...See where this is going?
So it would have been all right if Rev Wright had said, "God bless America for treating our citizens as less than human." instead of God damn? I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
For Thers:
the information on rod electrifiers you requested.
Hey, does anyone have any information on rod electrifiers that might be applied to women?
Thers | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 3:54 pm | #
Yes. (Not kid safe).
It's also the anniversary of the My Lai massacre.
And some of those without legal recourse may seek recourse though less-than-legal means.
Not if dirty fucking hippies can get retroactive immunity.
Hey, does anyone have any information on rod electrifiers that might be applied to women?
Thers
I wouldn't let her have the remote if she was the least bit angry.
I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
It wasn't. The whole deal is to get the peeps out there to doubt Obama.
The Muslim question to Hill on 60 Minutes was another.
Get the little gray doubts to creep into more and more of the electorate's collective mind.
Same with the Swift-boating of John Kerry.
I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
George Johnston | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:00 pm | #
it's only controversial because the repigs don't have a prayer of taking down the dems without concocting lies, smears, outrageous lies and smears, and fearful lies and smears. Fortunately, the American people have had 7 years of all of the above, and are quite completely tired of it and inured to it. Even Lubyanker knows full well that he's just rabble-rousing, in a lame attempt to save his party from extinction.
Hey, does anyone have any information on rod electrifiers
The surge is working.
it's only controversial because the repigs don't have a prayer of taking down the dems without concocting lies, smears, outrageous lies and smears, and fearful lies and smears. Fortunately, the American people have had 7 years of all of the above, and are quite completely tired of it and inured to it. Even Lubyanker knows full well that he's just rabble-rousing, in a lame attempt to save his party from extinction.
ronjazz hussein | 03.15.08 - 4:06 pm | #
I sincerely hope you're right.
Roadie,
Sorry you couldn't come up for the show tonight. It's probably a good thing, though. Everyone in Minneapolis and St. Paul is currently drunk.
Retroactive immunity is particularly important to Republican office holders and appointees.
THIS MUST NOT PASS, for if it does Americans will have no legal recourse....
which is of course the goal of the malAdministration
& Co.horts.
It is so warped, like chimpy yesterday lecturing us on allowing the market to work out the unfair kinks among us little people right after bailing out Bear Stearns, ARGGH, etc
OK, I'm off for a few. While I'm gone, please consider what the true cost of war might look like if the White House ever released the numbers.
I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
George Johnston
Well, most Xians are not accustomed to hearing the n-word in crutch.
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
I don't.
Jesus, bg, I thought it was a joke.
Looks like the "shine" is rubbing off Obama! Ha-ha
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
It prevented the media from saying "war hero John Kerry" the way they now so freely say "war hero John McCain"
I think that Atrios' position about airing our religious differences is just the remedy. Let's open the "white" churches up and find out what they're saying. Whoo! People will drop this Wright "controversy" like a hot potato.
Bugs
Looks like your mama's abortion was a failure.
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
I don't.
Zap Rowsdower
Yes, my stupid fucking relatives on my wife's side. I tried to explain that it was a pack of lies but they would rather listen to the lies than the truth. The lies are much more fun.
Another mistake???
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/1...cs/
15obama.html
Obama Describes Developer Deal as a Mistake
By JEFF ZELENY
WASHINGTON - Senator Barack Obama said Friday that he had made repeated lapses of judgment in dealing with an indicted Chicago real estate developer, Antoin Rezko, and acknowledged that Mr. Rezko had raised more money for his political campaigns than he had previously disclosed.
Mr. Rezko, who is on trial on federal corruption charges, had raised as much as $250,000 for Mr. Obama during his first three political races. Previously, Mr. Obama's campaign estimated that Mr. Rezko had raised about $150,000 for him.
In an interview with The Chicago Tribune that was posted on the newspaper's Web site on Friday evening, Mr. Obama said he had made a mistake by engaging in a real estate deal with Mr. Rezko. The deal involved a new home Mr. Obama and his family bought in Chicago in 2005; Mr. Rezko acquired an adjacent parcel of land to help complete the sale.
Pelosi, Hoyer and Emanuel promised the Blue Dogs that they would be on the reconciliation committee with the Senate charged with hammering out a compromise."
Shit.
"bbbbut - I thought he was the candidate of good judgement"
An add on the local classic rock radio station praised our two Republican senators for voting against "raising energy taxes" apparently glad the money is going outside the country rather than into our own coffers. This was courtesy of the "National Taxpayers Union." So they're already working the electorate. Are we?
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
I don't.
Zap Rowsdower
Nor I. Not surprising.
Like you, I avoid people who are having animated conversations with imaginary people and foaming at the mouth.
I sincerely hope you're right.
Brooklyn Girl | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:07 pm | #
i'm only right if we all stand up to the cowards, and don't let them sway us with their bullshit. Part of the reason Hillary and Obama have had such a nasty campaign is the media spin on everything, and the inability for either candidate to get their message out without resorting to negativity. It's a system badly weighted against us, even though we're in the strong majority.
Jesus, bg, I thought it was a joke.
qlª | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:10 pm | #
What? The rod thing?
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
The point is not to convince, but to suck up energy and distract the media morons. Also it drives people away by making them think "everyone is rotten," so they don't vote.
There was an article out there a while ago that showed that a significant number people agreed with Kerry on policy, but they thought it was pointless to vote for him because nothing good ever comes from the government anyway. So they voted for Bush.
Cynicism is a GOP weapon.
"again it is Obama who made personality a campaign issue"
He said his judgement is better that others
if that isn't true - and it obviously is not, I would guess he might be in some trouble
i'm only right if we all stand up to the cowards, and don't let them sway us with their bullshit. Part of the reason Hillary and Obama have had such a nasty campaign is the media spin on everything, and the inability for either candidate to get their message out without resorting to negativity. It's a system badly weighted against us, even though we're in the strong majority.
ronjazz hussein | 03.15.08 - 4:13 pm | #
It's the "strong majority" that I hope you're right about. I'm concerned that we may have a weak majority.
Cynicism is a GOP weapon.
Thers
Which is why Atrios has the stupidest trolls on the Intertubes.
"bbbbut - I thought he was the candidate of good judgement"
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:13 pm | #
are you talking about the Keating Five-Lobbyist fucking mcStain, the phony POW? Or the current disaster, the "thanks for 9/11" Bush moron? Which one? Or are you resorting to your usual racist drivel because you don't have the brains that most turds do?
Everyone in Minneapolis and St. Paul is currently drunk.
Zap Rowsdower |
And with the RI BS info, I'd probably want to use the 242K Park Avenue to pick off any of them that look like they came from Edina or Minnetonka, just to rid the planet of a few obnoxious Wingers.
omg. i work in a freaking research lab, and with all of those geniuses on staff, no one can figure out how to block that shit from our servers. i swear i get at least 100 of those friggin things a day. it is so repulsive.
nona | 03.15.08 - 3:50 pm |
One of our affiliated mailing listed got spammed, and first it was annoying, now it's the penis enlargement stuff. Their IT team swears they'll have something in place by later this month.
Oh, hell, according to what I am seeing (though it is nothing new) we have our work cut out for us. John McCain though he is a liar (proven time after time) a religious bigot (time and time again) and a womanizer (time after time) and an underhanded double dealer in influence (Time after time) and a serial breaker of the last (time after time) is now being praised while the Democratic candidates are being damned for something their supporters said.
And you really think you can fight the media?
How?
The same slime that parse Clinton's answers over and over again looking for some prevarication accept the bald faced lies of the shitstains Bush, Cheney, and McBush without the slightest hesitation.
He said his judgement is better that others
if that isn't true - and it obviously is not, I would guess he might be in some trouble
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:15 pm | #
well, you're quite wrong, aren't you? His judgment is perfectly adequate, compared to the massive failure you clowns have been fellating for 7 years.
Obama graduated from the most prestigious prep-school in Hawaii, graduated from Columbia, went on to Harvard Law school - how ccould a person with so much education join such as racist "church" as the one led by Mr. Wright? And now he disavows his "spiritual mentor" of 20 years???? One wonders what are his true convictions because this is only damage control.
Looks like the "shine" is rubbing off Obama! Ha-ha
Not even a little bit, jack-dick.
Hillary can't catch Obama. She will go the the Dem Convention behind in delegates and the popular vote.
Obama's won more states.
Guess what that means, ignatz?
Come on, you can say it, Rove, Jr.
Happy birthday Hecate (& Editoress in abstentia) Am off to celebrate mine just passed (on the 6th) & my sister 's ( on the 12th) with SO and Kidz over at mom's. Back for more (mostly lurking!) later.
Ha! I kept wondering when someone was going to notice that Boehlert was "unmutual."
That links been there about a week now...
Hecate -
Check my 3:47 and 3:59 comments.
Have any Bar Associations taken positions against RI? And could RI's constitutionality be challenged?
Does anyone know anybody that was swayed by anything the Swiftboaters said?
I don't.
Zap Rowsdower
They don't really have to convince anyone, though they'll convince a few. All they have to do is offer an excuse to the racists fuckwits for not voting for Obama, even they know he would be the better president. this way they can feel better about themselves. See, it's not me who is a racist, it's BHO.
I think it will be used and used and used. But it's still early times yet. Perhaps it can be overcome. I'm just not that sure.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:17 pm | #
what proof or evidence have you that his church is racist, especially given the racism you demonstrate? are you projecting, or just lying?
Stormysu,
Thank you so much! Has the Editoress been around today?
The point is not to convince, but to suck up energy and distract the media morons. Also it drives people away by making them think "everyone is rotten," so they don't vote.
Indeed. And it's made me change the channel. I can't watch CNN anymore. I can't watch MSNBC anymore.
When I heard that Sirius Satellite Radio had launched a 24/7 channel devoted to the Eliot Spitzer sex scandal (("Client 9 Radio"--no you really can't make this stuff up) I thought I would throw up.
I don't know what's worse, the media or the GOP.
Guess what that means, ignatz?
Come on, you can say it, Rove, Jr.
billy b>>
Say hello to President McCain!
Cynicism is a GOP weapon.
Yeah, you're right. And so is lying. It's remarkable what those two things can do together.
Happy birfday, Hacate! *mwah*
Say hello to President McCain!
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:19 pm | #
sorry, racist, learn to say President Barack Hussein Obama, you'll be saying it for 8 years.
And you really think you can fight the media?
How?
Beowulf Schaeffer - Revolution
More and bigger tornadoes.
Insane McCain can't win. Of course, there is nothing stopping the Repigs from stealing another one.
Hecate -
I have not seen Editoress on these threads yet today, but many have sent her best wishes!
Insane McCain can't win. Of course, there is nothing stopping the Repigs from stealing another one.
George Johnston | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:20 pm | #
actually, there is. the Congress will stop it this time.
what proof or evidence have you that his church is racist, especially given the racism you demonstrate? are you projecting, or just lying?
yes, exactly.
Today I posted on my strong objection to the attacks on Rev. Wright ("Who Will Rid Me Of This Troublesome Priest?") and immediately got two comments telling me that Wright is a bigot and "black liberation theology" is heresy. How does anyone know?
Oh, and sorry for the back-to-back blogwhores, I've been busy lately.
And glad birthday tidings to you and your green & purple gardens, Hecate.
Let's talk double standard. Imgagine if Rev. Jeremiah Wright was Clinton's pastor. She'd be drummed out of the race.
Insane McCain can't win. Of course, there is nothing stopping the Repigs from stealing another one.
Ari "We've got $250 Million...and we'll spend it!" Fleisher will make damn sure that they go down trying.
Roadmaster,
I'm not sure; it's way outside my area. My guess is that they'll be challenged, but I don't know how successfully, esp. w/ this SCOTUS
Say hello to President McCain!
Little Karl, McDoucheBag couldn't get elected dog catcher.
Obama leads in all polls, also. Hows about them road apples, Bugs Rove?
comments telling me that Wright is a bigot and "black liberation theology" is heresy. How does anyone know?
they don't know. they are racist scum, projecting their own mental illness, and the usual rightwing fear that leads them to run from attacks, like Bush did.
I'm here now but sorry to have just read this. Are all of Eschatonians okay?
Crane Topples in Midtown Manhattan, Killing at Least 2 People
By THE NEW YORK TIMES 16 minutes ago
A large crane at a construction site, which looked to be at least 15 stories tall, appeared to have fallen across a street and crashed into other buildings near 51st Street and 2nd Avenue.
Hecate,
May you have as many birthdays as you wish and may each be more glorious. May each day bring more peace and wisdom and friends to share these things with along the way.
Peace.
What is Sphere.com? They linked to my Rev. Wright post and I've gotten about 100 hits from it in the last hour.
Let's talk double standard. Imgagine if Rev. Jeremiah Wright was Clinton's pastor. She'd be drummed out of the race.
Everything Wright said was true, you green-toof redneck.
Let's talk double standard. Imgagine if Rev. Jeremiah Wright was Clinton's pastor. She'd be drummed out of the race.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:22 pm | #
let's talk double standard. Hagee, anyone? Robertson, anyone? Wright spoke the truth, something you rightwingers fear because it never goes for you.
In his book, Obama himself calls Jerimiah Wright his "mentor" and "Spiritual guide." He said he had never been able to accept any organized religion till he walked into Wright's church. A church that has an non-negotiable commitment to Africa, no mention of any commitment to America, and is based on the "Black Value System" and lead by a pastor who is a radical anti-American and racist. Obama himself said he related to this man and his teaching. He has been his "advisor" for 20 years. He named his book after one of his sermon titles. He cannot disassociate himself from the man's teachings unless he denounces his membership from the church...which BTW, Wright has retired from recently. Very Recently.
Remember the Purple Heart bandages? That's exactly what this is all over again. But like I said, it's early times yet.
Hecate's having a birthday?
Happy, happy birthday!!!
Editoress,
And a happy birthday to you as well. Tis a glorious day here, hope it is wherever you are as well.
Enjoy.
Editoress,
Happy B/Day!
Thank you Zap and DWD and everyone for the wonderful wishes. I'm off for bit, back later I hope.
Hecate, happy birthday to you! I spent the morning shuttling the kid, then got a haircut and now have to rush to work...other than that, I'm fattening myself up with a large chunk of pie!
Everything Wright said was true, you green-toof redneck.
billy b
------
billy b, You hate america too?
My guess is that they'll be challenged, but I don't know how successfully, esp. w/ this SCOTUS
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
That's what I thought - and feared - you would say.
Do you agree, though, that granting RI to one sector just invites RI to be granted across-the-board to any sector deemed of "benefit to the operations of the federal government?"
Has anyone ever questioned what Bush's pastor says?
Oh, wait. He doesn't have one.
Never mind.
Shorter Bugs Rove, Jr.
Waaaahhh!!!!!
WAaaahhhhh!!!
Suck on your widdle thumb, titty baby.
Remember the Purple Heart bandages? That's exactly what this is all over again. But like I said, it's early times yet.
qlª
My Dad got the Purple Heart during WWII. It was like watching Republicans spit on him when they did that at their convention.
By damn, Bugs... you are such a persuasive fellow.
Difference this time around is that there is no "architect" and definitely no "math".
(yes, I know that Rover is doing some freelancing for McCain, but I doubt enough to make a difference)
billy b, You hate america too?
Now, the Rove is starting to show thru.
heh.
...let's talk double standard. Hagee, anyone? Robertson, anyone?
No fucking shit.
And Robertson and Falwell weren't criticizing the actions of the "government" - they were pinning the blame on American citizens they just didn't fucking like.
And why? To solicit more money.
Remember the Purple Heart bandages?
Yes I like to trot that picture out at appropriate times, like when the GOP is waving the flag especially furiously and toutint its "support the troops" yellow ribbons.
It's hard to forget Pat Peale, Rove's lap dog.
You people better wake up and start supporting Hillary or mcCain will be our next president. Obama cannot win!
(yes, I know that Rover is doing some freelancing for McCain, but I doubt enough to make a difference)
His bastard mutant kid is posting here non-stop.
Bugs, as an ardent Hillary supporter, may I just say, fuck off. You really are a pesky bug.
Hypocrisy on the right. Who knew?
Bash Obama's pastor, ignore Romney and Huckabee's religious excesses
billy b, Are you a Muslim? I think you are.
I guess we should've stayed up north, so I could have went fishing tonight.
Like, right now in fact.
billy b, You hate america too?
Bugs
Well, when I refer to my country at least I remember to capitalize the name properly. Secondly: He did not say he hated America. What he said was he hated the policies of a country that drove his people into the street and into prison. On that, as a teacher, I agree completely. I have seen the result of the double standards that are applied in our penal system (Does Scooter Libby come to mind. How's his jail time going?) If he had been a black man in Chicago, do you think the President would have saved his ass from Joliet or wherever? Please.
Now, go away, fool
His bastard mutant kid is posting here non-stop.
billy b
Obama cannot win!
Little Karl, Obama really makes your bowels all watery with fear.
heh.
Obama will whip McCain. Badly.
It won't even be close.
I'm studying to be a Muslim. Wanna see my Koran?
billy b,Agrees with Obama's pastor!Who is a radical anti-American and racist.
Gold's at $1,000. Wow, who'd have thunk it?
Little Karl, Obama really makes your bowels all watery with fear
The kinda stuff Immodium won't touch.
Well, hard fought primary battles are supposed to weed out the weak. It would seem we have two very tough competitors. At this point, I think BHO will probably get it. Especially if he manages to diffuse this current ruckus. Then he will go on to beat McCain's ass from coast to coast.
Obama will whip McCain. Badly.
It won't even be close.
billy b
McSame will be a McStain on the runway.
Obama will whip McCain. Badly.
It won't even be close.
billy b
-----------------
Dream on!
The kinda stuff Immodium won't touch.
Think dysentery
Hey, Repigs, thanks for 2006. Now if only Harry and Nancy had some backbone.
Obama's wifes little speech about how she was not proud of America is the tip of the iceberf with this pair.
Think dysentery
Right along my line of thinking.
No need to bring up Steven Tyler, Karl, Jr.
Americans are losing lives and jobs thanks to Bush's and Insane McSame's policies. They won't want 4 more minutes much less 4 more years.
Picture any peacful Sunday worship day.
Got that picture?
Now, picture actually listening to the peaceful preacher tell his hate--no doubt repeated iterations, counted Sunday-after-God-"attentively-listening" Sunday. No--don't you dare--ever consult the Bible that preacher violates, loud-voicedly, like "judge not, lest you be judged," etc.
Now (foolishly pick me). Vote about the prayerfully-attuned (like the TV pic wants, if you are media mesmerized) Barak Husein Obama, listening to that crap. Calm? Avake? If awake, agrees with the spewed crap? I listened to the recording of that vile preacher (not from God/G-d/Allah, I can testify under penalty of violating one of the ten commandments--don't give false testimony).
Democrats need to go with Hillary.
Happy Birthday Hecate!
Fucker has dysentery of the keyboard for shor.
I'm not proud of America, either.
Obama has proved he has poor judgement. Done. Finished!
If you don't agree with what someone is saying you leave..... YOU DON'T STICK AROUND FOR 20 YEARS!
Oh shit (pun intended), Happy Birthday, Hecate.
Remember that picture of Bush holding hands with a Muslim Arab prince who gave bin Laden millions of dollars? Why aren't our trolls outraged at that?
It never ceases to amaze me how our trolls give themselves such self-deprecatory names. Pud, potato salad, shoelimpy, and now bugs. Then they come over here to get beat up.
Sad, really.
If you don't agree with what someone is saying you leave..... YOU DON'T STICK AROUND FOR 20 YEARS!
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 4:35 pm | #
Then why are you still here?
Funny...this doesn't look like Larry Johnson's blog.
Remember that picture of Bush holding hands with a Muslim Arab prince who gave bin Laden millions of dollars? Why aren't our trolls outraged at that?
George Johnston
IOKIYAGWB
Remember that picture of Bush holding hands with a Muslim Arab prince who gave bin Laden millions of dollars? Why aren't our trolls outraged at that?
What about that Karl?
Now, picture actually listening to the peaceful preacher tell his hate--
You mean like Pat Robertson did, over and over again?
After all the Hulu hubbub yesterday, I forgot to mention that, for some reason, CBS.com has all three seasons of the original "Star Trek" online.
Also "Hawaii 5-0" and "Twilight Zone."
Judge not lest you be judged?
You might remind James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Jim Hagee, Jerry Falwell (RIP), Ralph Reed, Tim LaHaye, Franklin Graham, Fred Phelps, Ken Hutcherson, etc. etc. etc. of that.
You can try to hide it Democrat Defeat lovers but the truth will always come out about the greatest nation in Earth's history, America:
There is still much left to be accomplished in Iraq. But the successes of the men and women serving in this once explosive area of Baghdad cannot be overstated. Sitting here in Adhamiyah, one thing is certain: The surge has worked.
The writer, a staff sergeant in the U.S. Army Reserve, recently received a master's degree in strategic studies and international economics from the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.
Hola.
Sorry, Avedon, but that 60 minutes appearance is something of a rorschach test.
She could have shut the door, but she didn't.
His bastard mutant kid is posting here non-stop.
Cue Zappa and the Mothers: "Idiot bastard son..."
Fucker has dysentery of the keyboard for shor.
Cut and paste.
I've always thought the thing about paid republics acting as trools was a little far-fetched, but now I'm not so sure.
I haven't seen the republics this scared since Bill Clinton was running for the Oval Office the first time.
Vicki. How's my role model doing?
She could have shut the door, but she didn't.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:38 pm | #
Yes, she should have.
Hola.
Hulu!
Now, picture actually listening to the peaceful preacher tell his hate--
You mean like Pat Robertson did, over and over again?
Why isn't anyone in the media ever outraged about the hate that spews from the conservative xtian pulpitry?
Why isn't anyone in the media ever outraged about the hate that spews from the conservative xtian pulpitry?
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:40 pm | #
Um ... er .... uh ... because of the signature on their paychecks?
Why isn't anyone in the media ever outraged about the hate that spews from the conservative xtian pulpitry?
Because they're all primarily conservative owned and operated.
I thought you knew this.
Yes, she should have.
Thank you.
Maybe it's just a tick of the way she speaks, but fuck it, it's not that hard to speak decisively and clearly.
mer,
Been napping. Lazy as sin today.
I have to grocery shop sometime in the next few hours, since the family is celebrating Easter tomorrow (or a reasonable facsimile thereof).
Adam Alexander takes his first trip to Grand Haven tonight. Should keep my mother in awe.
Why isn't anyone in the media ever outraged about the hate that spews from the conservative xtian pulpitry?
Ok, Karl, that's two you haven't answered.
Cat got your tongue?
Because they're all primarily conservative owned and operated.
I thought you knew this.
I do, I have a head ache and I'm just being cranky.
I was able to get in on Hulu during the beta stage.
It's blossomed into a beautiful, young website.
Why isn't anyone in the media ever outraged about the hate that spews from the conservative xtian pulpitry?
fourlegsgood,
Cuz they're white?
Cuz they've embedded themselves into the Beltway power structure?
Cuz the right wing will scream "ZOMG RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE!!!11!1" if you make any criticism of their "religious" leaders and the media are cowering little wussies in the face of that?
Am I getting warm?
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/
St...maker_0314.html
Senator Obama's unwillingness to separate himself from this church....up until it's hate became public yesterday....has convinced me that the man just does not have the judgement needed to be the President of this country.
Maybe it's just a tick of the way she speaks, but fuck it, it's not that hard to speak decisively and clearly.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:41 pm | #
Kroft should never have asked the question, and she should have told him so.
Senator Obama has belonged to this church for twenty years. To believe that this minister's hate speech are isolated events in just to much to believe. I cannot believe that a man who belonged to this church for so long would never have suspected the intentions, the values and the rhetoric of minister Wright.
Quite simply, it's too late for Senator Obama to repudiate this church. Twenty years too late.
Qwerty 6 | 03.15.08 - 4:38 pm | #
Oh, give me a break, have you read the news the last couple of days?
There would have been no need for the surge to work if we had not gone into Iraq in the first place. Living in LaLa land does not work for me.
Karl, answer the questions on the table.
Chickenshit worm.
My first run in with the hyper conservative fundies was in high school in 1976.
A fundie kid told me I was going "to burn in hell in horrible torment for an enternity" just because he overheard us talking about a party the weekend before where there was beer.
I hate those fuckers. They are NOT christians.
Of course neither am I, but I don't pretend to be either.
Hey, anybody got any DEET? The insects are getting really annoying.
fourlegsgood, I see you are about my age.
A fundie kid told me I was going "to burn in hell in horrible torment for an enternity" just because he overheard us talking about a party the weekend before where there was beer.
I'd have spit on the little bastard.
And the kid would have been lucky.
Kroft should never have asked the question, and she should have told him so.
He probably shouldn't have, but she could have put him, and then entire media on notice by saying, "what a ridiculous question. Of course he's a christian, why do you guys bottom feed this way? Stop asking nonsensical questions and stick to the issues."
Who thinks this will even be a story come June?
Not me.
I'd have spit on the little bastard.
And the kid would have been lucky.
I laughed in his face.
I reminded him that jeebus drank wine.
That's when Clinton, looking befuddled by the multiple requests, added some qualifiers to her response, including "as far as I know."
When somebody like Kroft keeps repeating a question over and over again, most people would think he has a reason. Even if it's some bullshit taken out of context twenty years ago. It's the implied Russert gotcha that brought out the qualifier.
A fundie kid told me I was going "to burn in hell in horrible torment for an enternity" just because he overheard us talking about a party the weekend before where there was beer.
Now THAT'S a dude who never got laid. Total buzzkill.
I remember eating at Tony Roma's in Santa Monica with my mother once way back in the '80s and a young couple at the table next to us were going on and on about how great the food was and how isn't it amazing that God has blessed us with this really good food because he loves us so much!
The Gospel of Tony Roma -- that was a new one for me.
Then they tried to witness to us and tell us that some scientists at Princeton had disproved evolution.
Some Christians give their own religion a very bad name.
You see people, it's quite simple. I want the democrats to win this year. I just believe Hillry is better equipped to do that. Certainly now.
Obama will be swift boated until the cows come home because of this and it you don't believe that then I suggest you are naive, uninformed and way,way,way too dependent on "hope".
He probably shouldn't have, but she could have put him, and then entire media on notice by saying, "what a ridiculous question. Of course he's a christian, why do you guys bottom feed this way? Stop asking nonsensical questions and stick to the issues."
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:46 pm | #
And I would have preferred if she had just told him that she was offended by his question, that she didn't know what Obama's religious beliefs were and she didn't care, since his, hers and anyone else's are PRIVATE.
Damn slanties.
The Gospel of Tony Roma -- that was a new one for me.
Ah yes, the Sermon of the Holy Blooming Onion with Sirloin
Who thinks this will even be a story come June?
Not me.
I don't think it will be either.
Nothing that preacher said was out of bounds. What, we DIDN'T bomb Cambodia? there ISN'T discrimination in America? Hillary ISN'T rich?
The amount of anger in the black community may shock some people who have been living under a rock, but they can fucking get over it.
Well, I have had enough fun playing with the trolls. (Like playing with yourself but without the momentary thrill at the end.)
Mrs Schaeffer-DWD went out on our Saturday jaunt today. I played her some of the Patti Smith I have been listening to this week for fun. She listened to her cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit and said, "I never realized that those were the words. . . maybe it was better that way."
We kept listening then she replied that her co-worker had said she was taking her daughter to see the young lady who sang the songs in the Little Mermaid Movie on Friday night. I asked her if she thought she would like a Patti Smith CD . . . .
Good afternoon, friends.
that she didn't know what Obama's religious beliefs were and she didn't care, since his, hers and anyone else's are PRIVATE.
Except that she does know, since she's been to prayer breakfasts with him many times.
Who thinks this will even be a story come June?
Not me.
I don't think it will be either.
me neither, though I shudder to think what may have taken its place by then...
"This is an open letter to the progressive blogosphere...
I’ve been posting at DailyKos for nearly 4 years now and started writing diaries in support of Hillary Clinton back in June of last year. Over the past few months I’ve noticed that things have become progressively more abusive toward my candidate and her supporters.
I’ve put up with the abuse and anger because I’ve always believed in what our on-line community has tried to accomplish in this world. No more. DailyKos is not the site it once was thanks to the abusive nature of certain members of our community.
I’ve decided to go on "strike" and will refrain from posting here as long as the administrators allow the more disruptive members of our community to trash Hillary Clinton and distort her record without any fear of consequence or retribution. I will not be posting at DailyKos effective immediately. I will not help drive up traffic or page-hits as long as my candidate – a good and fine DEMOCRAT - is attacked in such a horrid and sexist manner not only by other diarists, but by several of those posting to the front page."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...4727/132/
476843
... she didn't know what Obama's religious beliefs were and she didn't care, since his, hers and anyone else's are PRIVATE....
yeah I miss the good old days when that was the case. But after 8 years of Fundie Bush and his tearing down that wall of separation, well, this is what we get.
It's all very well and good now, but the country is swinging back to liberal. Just you wait, conservatives, just you wait. Some day a Republican is going to be called to answer for his pastor's statements from the pulpit and see how you like it then.
This should not even be in the public discourse.
You see people, it's quite simple. I want the democrats to win this year. I just believe Hillry is better equipped to do that. Certainly now.
Obama will be swift boated until the cows come home because of this and it you don't believe that then I suggest you are naive, uninformed and way,way,way too dependent on "hope".
Thanks for your input Paul begala.
Kindly fuck off now.
Yo peeps,
what's up?
I was going to make some snide remark about how Bugs was a Hillary supporter but even I won't stoop that low.
Go away Bugs, please. You do not answer. You only spew bile.
I asked her if she thought she would like a Patti Smith CD . . . .
Beowulf Schaeffer-Revolutionar | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:50 pm | #
You might enjoy reading this.
Yes, that's our Steve.
a young couple at the table next to us were going on and on about how great the food was and how isn't it amazing that God has blessed us with this really good food because he loves us so much!
I guess he didn't love the people starving in Africa, huh?
She listened to her cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit and said, "I never realized that those were the words. . . maybe it was better that way."
That was funny!!!!
This is an open letter to the progressive blogosphere...
Fer crap's sake.
Seriously, Kossacks...it's a blog.
Over the past few months I’ve noticed that things have become progressively more abusive toward my candidate and her supporters.
Another whiny ass titty baby.
Where's my violin?
I guess he didn't love the people starving in Africa, huh?
Terry C - aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:54 pm | #
That's why the missionaries went there to save them.
a young couple at the table next to us were going on and on about how great the food was and how isn't it amazing that God has blessed us with this really good food because he loves us so much!
Were they both equally so? I get the image of the guy babbling on and the girl meekly nodding and saying "Amen, Jim!"
Maybe it's just a tick of the way she speaks, but fuck it, it's not that hard to speak decisively and clearly.
fourlegsgood
If someone asked me the same question over and over and over I might begin to think they know something that I do not.
Is there any mainstream newspaper that consistently and prominently debunks the neverending conservative propaganda?
NYTs? LATs? AJC? USA Today? WP? Star Trib? ???
I was going to make some snide remark about how Bugs was a Hillary supporter but even I won't stoop that low.
Go away Bugs, please. You do not answer. You only spew bile.
Beowulf Schaeffer-Revolutionar
Bugs is not a Hillary supporter.
He's here to stir up trouble.
I killfiled him DAYS ago.
I guess he didn't love the people starving in Africa, huh?
Well, when those starving Africans *do* get food, I guess it tastes good.
{ eye roll}
Really, I can't defend that. I have no clue what it means. I like barbecue too, but I'd like to think my faith goes a little deeper than "that sauce on the baby backs proves God's existence."
If someone asked me the same question over and over and over I might begin to think they know something that I do not.
qlª | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:55 pm | #
Depending on the question, I'd think they were trying to trap me.
I killfiled him DAYS ago.
You guys want to hear from the biggest Hillary disser of all?
Why I Will Not Support Hillary Clinton for President
I guess if she were still alive Molly Ivins would have been thrown out of the feminist club by now.
Nothing that preacher said was out of bounds. What, we DIDN'T bomb Cambodia? there ISN'T discrimination in America? Hillary ISN'T rich?
The amount of anger in the black community may shock some people who have been living under a rock, but they can fucking get over it.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur
Yup. And yup. And yup one last time.
I'm sick of it, frankly.
I get the image of the guy babbling on and the girl meekly nodding and saying "Amen, Jim!"
Marcellina
Her eyes cast downwardly, ever so modestly?
I can picture that, too.
Were they both equally so? I get the image of the guy babbling on and the girl meekly nodding and saying "Amen, Jim!"
No, totally not the case. Both were completely into it, and if anything, the young woman was more into it than the guy.
These are the issues, not some crazy pastor:
Gas, Diesel Rocket to Record Highs
http://ap.google.com/article/ALe...HBB-
tAD8VDOQ7G0
Foreclosures jump 60% in February
http://www.boston.com/business/a...60_in_february/
White House Played Role in Smog Rule
http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...yJoDFgD8VDDQMO0
Iraqis Fear Return to Violent Days
http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...TB9USAD8VC3TV00
The Obamas were not merely endorsed by, or attended the church of, Rev. Wright, but subsidized his hatred with generous donations, were married by him, and had their children baptized by this venomous preacher; there is nothing quite comparable in the case of Sens. Clinton
I think maybe the guy was hoping to get laid. Lot's of "bedside" convesions, you know?
Depending on the question, I'd think they were trying to trap me.
Brooklyn Girl
On this question, I think I'd resort to: "Who cares?" But that wouldn't distinguish Hillary from Barack, so....
Bjorn, needs a president | 03.15.08 - 4:58 pm | #
{ hugs }
Breaking:
Obama's been endorsed by Hitler, Pol Pot, and Brian Mulroney.
Really, I can't defend that. I have no clue what it means. I like barbecue too, but I'd like to think my faith goes a little deeper than "that sauce on the baby backs proves God's existence."
I was at Chili's a few months ago (stopped for a burger cause it was convenient) and these two guys came in and sat in the next booth in the bar.
When my food came I said "thanks" to the waiter and dug in. After a few seconds I realized one of the guys was glaring at me.
I wuz like WTF?
When their food came they bowed their haids and prayed for at least 5 minutes before eating.
Creepy.
The Obamas were not merely endorsed by, or attended the church of, Rev. Wright, but subsidized his hatred with generous donations, were married by him, and had their children baptized by this venomous preacher; there is nothing quite comparable in the case of Sens. Clinton
Bugs
Bugs, you want venomous, go read what the prophets said to Israel.
And shut up. Your ignorance is showing, and it ain't pretty.
I guess he didn't love the people starving in Africa, huh?
Terry C - aka Hussein
That's why the missionaries went there to save them.
Brooklyn Girl |
Judging by the photos I've seen, the missionaries did a pretty shitty job.
The amount of anger in the black community may shock some people who have been living under a rock, but they can fucking get over it.
No, no, no. It SCARES them.
White America is terrified of a black president.
I guess if she were still alive Molly Ivins would have been thrown out of the feminist club by now.
Not at all. You may not have been following the feminist debate on this, but people are fairly divided between Obama and Clinton in their endorsements.
"...Sure Barack Obama has won a bunch of small states, and mainly in caucuses, not primaries which actually resemble what the vote in November will be like. But if you look at the two candidates, it is clear that Hillary is the viable one for November. New York, California, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Texas, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut.... that is a road to the White House. If she wins the next contest in Pennsylvania, then it is basically a clean sweep on her part and Obama should step up and admit that, delegates aside, Hillary has bested him in every single contest that matters..."
http://
www.moderateindependent.c...MARsupertwo.htm
"...Sure Barack Obama has won a bunch of small states, and mainly in caucuses, not primaries which actually resemble what the vote in November will be like. But if you look at the two candidates, it is clear that Hillary is the viable one for November. New York, California, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Texas, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut.... that is a road to the White House. If she wins the next contest in Pennsylvania, then it is basically a clean sweep on her part and Obama should step up and admit that, delegates aside, Hillary has bested him in every single contest that matters..."
http://
www.moderateindependent.c...MARsupertwo.htm
Gimlet,
The McClatchy papers are still pretty good. Alas, they sold the Strib to a capital investment firm that's been steadily dismantling it.
I'm sick of it, frankly.
Rmj, Eminence Front
Me too.
I watched the tape last night and I was frankly puzzled.
White America is terrified of a black president.
Southern Beale>>
Yep!
When their food came they bowed their haids and prayed for at least 5 minutes before eating.
See, I'd worry that these guys were an al-qaeda sleeper cell.
White America is terrified of a black president.
Southern Beale>>
Yep!
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:01 pm | #
Well, tough shit. Get over it.
4LG,
We had that happen to us at the Mall of America food court last year. It is creepy.
Barb Harian | 03.15.08 - 4:52 pm
I have better things to do than get worried up over things written on a blog.
Chripes, isn't freedom of speech one of the things that the Repukes are trying take away from us?
If you don't like what's on a blog, don't go there.
That's why I avoid places like LGF and Free RePUKElic.
We had that happen to us at the Mall of America food court last year. It is creepy.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:02 pm | #
Fortunately, it doesn't happen very often here in the City of Heathens and Jews.
Not at all. You may not have been following the feminist debate on this, but people are fairly divided between Obama and Clinton in their endorsements.
I was being sarcastic.
Though I haven't been following the debate that closely.
Hey, you may want to check out the recent issue of Rolling Stone- (the one with Obama on the cover)- Matt Taibbi talks about this issue.
I'm curious to hear how actual feminists will react to his column.
but people are fairly divided between Obama and Clinton in their endorsements.
Echidne
As are all Dems. The popular vote is split pretty evenly.
White America is terrified of a black president.
Southern Beale
Unless s/he is a Republican and not named Keyes.
White America is terrified of a black president.
Southern Beale>>
Yep!
Bugs
Well, tough shit. Get over it.
Brooklyn Girl
Trolls are terrific of everything.
Particularly brown folks with "Muslim sounding" names.
Fear of a Black President.
Listen Brooklyn Girl, Senator Obama has not been nominated, let alone elected to the presidency of the United States. The republican smear machine has not yet begun to fight, and white people caught up in the moment have not yet begun to think deeply about Senators Obamas race(mixed black and white). Give whites a chance to listen to the smear rhetoric, and when they get in that voting booth, I'm 100% sure enough of them will vote white and we'll have four more years of republican corruption and evil policies. After all, whites will be white!
BG,
It doesn't happen to us at all 'round here. Although, it was a nice break from hearing "So, how 'bout this weather?".
I've heard that every day for 32 years.
White America is terrified of a black president.
Southern Beale>>
Yep!
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:01 pm | #
Well, tough shit. Get over it.
Brooklyn Girl
Yep!
We had that happen to us at the Mall of America food court last year. It is creepy.
I don't mind that they want to pray, but that guy was obviously PISSED that I wasn't praying.
Fuck him.
One of the feral cats we probably feed got killed on the local road. Her body was a good ten feet off the road and past the guard rail. So I guess she crawled away to suffer and die. We picked up the body and I was going to just dispose of it. But I now want to dig a grave and bury her with some incense and a few tears.
TERRIFIED, not terrific.
The only thing trolls are terrific at is being cowards.
And haters.
As are all Dems. The popular vote is split pretty evenly.
qlª
As the only issue left seems to be "character," and as they have both sickened me by now, and since McCain is the GOP candidate, I will support and vote for whoever the Dem. candidate is.
But I'm really tired of this year-long campaign. Enough, already!
No, no, no. It SCARES them.
White America is terrified of a black president.
Southern Beale | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:00 pm | #
I resent that!
So sorry, leibniz.
Listen Brooklyn Girl, Senator Obama has not been nominated, let alone elected to the presidency of the United States.
He will be.
I look forward to your nervous breakdown on his inaugural day.
let us know where you live so we can send a video crew
I think maybe the guy was hoping to get laid. Lot's of "bedside" convesions, you know?
Southern Beale
That's how it was back in my high school Luther League days in the early Sixties.
Well, not "laid," exactly...
I don't mind that they want to pray, but that guy was obviously PISSED that I wasn't praying.
Fuck him.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur
How fucking arrogant is that?
YOU don't live YOUR life the way THEY do.
"Fuck him" is right.
I'm terrified of a Republican president. Unlike those who fear a black or a female president, I have reasons for my fears.
Aw leibniz, I'm sorry to hear that.
Particularly brown folks with "Muslim sounding" names.
Terry C - aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:04 pm | #
He's not a Muslim 'as far as I know'
But I now want to dig a grave and bury her with some incense and a few tears.
Awww, poor kitteh.
So sad.
But I now want to dig a grave and bury her with some incense and a few tears.
leibniz♘☮
Sympathies.
People pray in restaurants all the time here. Heck, my friend the non-Christian, yoga-meditation-guru Deepak Chopra devotee prays before eating, and she prays over her food longer than most Christian folks I know.
I don't have a problem with that. People should be allowed to pray when and how they like. And I should be allowed to eat my dinner without someone at the next table reminding me that I am eating because Jesus loves me.
That shit annoys the hell out of me. Keep it to yourself.
Listen Brooklyn Girl, Senator Obama has not been nominated, let alone elected to the presidency of the United States.
Ah, but he WILL be.
Learn to live with it.
I'm curious to hear how actual feminists will react to his column.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:03 pm | #
What do you mean by "actual" feminists? Because I consider myself a feminist, but I won't vote for someone just because she's female.
One of the feral cats we probably feed got killed on the local road. Her body was a good ten feet off the road and past the guard rail. So I guess she crawled away to suffer and die. We picked up the body and I was going to just dispose of it. But I now want to dig a grave and bury her with some incense and a few tears.
I'm terrified of a Republican president. Unlike those who fear a black or a female president, I have reasons for my fears.
Hey, I am too!!
I think they'll pull out the stops because they don't want their criminality uncovered.
If Obama loses because Americans start looking past his oratory and look at his accomplishments and programs in more depth, his supporters will claim he lost because white America won't vote for a black man.
Particularly brown folks with "Muslim sounding" names.
Terry C - aka Hussein
He's not a Muslim 'as far as I know'
ark and saw
"Muslim SOUNDING" is enough for the mouthbreathers.
Well, not "laid," exactly...
My spelling sucks these days. I'm half paying attention to this and three other things, while making sure the hubby stays on task with the taxes.
What do you mean by "actual" feminists? Because I consider myself a feminist, but I won't vote for someone just because she's female.
I understood fourlegs reference to be to feminist activists. After all, every thinking person is a feminist ().
Interesting Steve Simel's interview. I will complement him the next time I see him.
About what I expected from Patti. I would have asked different questions though. But I see the world a lot differently than (Well, nearly everybody) other people.
I can honestly say that Patti Smith has moments of brilliance and times when she simply crashes and burns: but that is what being an artist is about; taking chances. Some of it is very pedestrian and some of it is exceptional and some is just shit. But that's the way it goes. But an interviewer would never voice that thought: even though I am pretty sure that Ms Smith would understand and welcome the insight.
Not everything works out the way you want it to when you envision it. Some is better, some is worse, and some - for whatever reason - is transcendent. That is the magic, you know?
WTF? Are these two congress members also super-delegates and if so, why?
WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has endorsed three Miami congressional candidates after two House Democrats from South Florida refused to because of their friendships with the Republican incumbents.
In letters, Pelosi and four other top House Democrats congratulate each of the challengers for a "strong start'' and say they look forward to helping each "become our newest Democratic partner for change in Washington.''
The letters came after Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek said they wouldn't actively campaign for their fellow Democrats because of they didn't want to risk their personal and professional ties to Republican Reps. Lincoln and Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.
Democrats have their best shot in years of unseating at least one of the three Republicans by fielding three strong candidates to face them _ former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, former Miami-Dade Democratic party chair Joe Garcia and businesswoman Annette Taddeo.
Word that Meek and Wasserman Shultz wouldn't help infuriated party activists. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee's official blog earlier this week referred to three incumbents as "some of President Bush's most reliable rubbberstamps.''
What do you mean by "actual" feminists? Because I consider myself a feminist, but I won't vote for someone just because she's female.
Oh, sorry, that was a poke at myself and all the people who have been ragging on me.
After all, whites will be white!
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:05 pm | #
Are you black?
For the life of me, I can't figure out how you can call yourself a Democrat and then say such disgusting things.
But I now want to dig a grave and bury her with some incense and a few tears.
leibniz♘☮
---------
Throw it into a dumpster and be done with it!
If Obama loses because Americans start looking past his oratory and look at his accomplishments and programs in more depth, his supporters will claim he lost because white America won't vote for a black man.
Who are you? Miss Cleo??
YOU don't live YOUR life the way THEY do.
"Fuck him" is right.
Terry C - aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:06 pm | #
Its funny how usually the more pious one is - the more SURE one is - the less secure one is as well.
Particularly brown folks with "Muslim sounding" names.
Terry C - aka Hussein
He's got a "Muslim sounding name" and a "Jewish sounding name." Which means, I guess, he'll bomb both Israel AND Mecca!
We win! Oh, wait a minute....
One of the feral cats we probably feed got killed on the local road.
Oh, I'm so sorry. It's hard out there for a feral cat.
You know, you'd think Mark Penn would have better things to do than post here.
Boehlert has no monopoly on Truth. He does not see equivocation in HRC, I do. Stop linking to Media Matters as though it's God itself, please.
What do you mean by "actual" feminists? Because I consider myself a feminist, but I won't vote for someone just because she's female.
Brooklyn Girl |
Had such a discussion with an African-American co-worker the other day.
I said, "hey, do you think I would vote for CONDI.....just because she's female?"
He said "No...........and I wouldn't vote for that bitch, either!"
For the life of me, I can't figure out how you can call yourself a Democrat and then say such disgusting things.
Brooklyn Girl
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Yes and I know white people. And they will not put a black in the whitehouse!
If Obama loses because Americans start looking past his oratory and look at his accomplishments and programs in more depth, his supporters will claim he lost because white America won't vote for a black man.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:08 pm | #
So prove them wrong and vote for him.
Its funny how usually the more pious one is - the more SURE one is - the less secure one is as well.
Bjorn, needs a president
That's why they have no sense of humor about their "faith".
They're that insecure.
I said, "hey, do you think I would vote for CONDI.....just because she's female?"
He said "No...........and I wouldn't vote for that bitch, either!"
I don't know if she's a bitch, but she sure is an incompetent twit.
I wouldn't vote for her if she was the only person running.
But I now want to dig a grave and bury her with some incense and a few tears.
leibniz??
Sorry.
Our 16 y.o. cat has become the biggest p.i.a. and yet I know I will cry like a baby when he goes.
Hillary all the way!
Well, not "laid," exactly...
My spelling sucks these days. I'm half paying attention to this and three other things, while making sure the hubby stays on task with the taxes.
Southern Beale
Your spelling's fine. I was referring to being in high school, and Lutheran, circa 1963. As far as I know, everyone in my peer group was afflicted with virginity.
Its funny how usually the more pious one is - the more SURE one is - the less secure one is as well.
Not funny, predictable. It's the direct result of fear. As the great activist Rev. William Sloane Coffin once said:
“Nothing scares me like scared people, for while love seeks the truth, fear seeks safety, the safety so frequently found in dogmatic certainty, in pitiless intolerance.”
Someone should tell Plantsman Chris Matthews is posting under his name
Bugs is a 20 year old young republican being paid to spout nonsense.
So prove them wrong and vote for him.
Brooklyn Girl
Nah - trollie would sooner cut off his right hand than vote for a black candidate.
Chripes, at least pud and Toby are up front about their racism.
I was going to make some snide remark about how Bugs was a Hillary supporter but even I won't stoop that low.
Go away Bugs, please. You do not answer. You only spew bile.
Beowulf Schaeffer-Revolutionar
Bugs is not a Hillary supporter.
He's here to stir up trouble.
I killfiled him DAYS ago.
Terry C - aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 4:56 pm | #
People like the Kos contributer who complain about the Hillary Hating are poo-poo'ed as "whiny ass titty babies", but anybody who dares to criticize Obama is troll rated.
Who are the whiny ass titty babies?
If there is a revolt even at Kos, the Obama supporters who can't hear a whiff of criticism of Obama without making remarks like the one above had better take a look at themselves.
He said "No...........and I wouldn't vote for that bitch, either!"
Heh.
Bugs is a 20 year old young republican being paid to spout nonsense.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:13 pm | #
That's the only sensible explanation.
Our 16 y.o. cat has become the biggest p.i.a. ...
What's he doing?
We just found out our PITA dog has cancer, a very aggressive hemangiosarcoma. Now I feel bad for being so mean to him all these years!
Your spelling's fine. I was referring to being in high school, and Lutheran, circa 1963. As far as I know, everyone in my peer group was afflicted with virginity.
Upsidasium
You just described my older brother
Someone should tell Plantsman Chris Matthews is posting under his name
"plantsman" has never been capitalized by me, and I'm not afraid of lying namestealers.
I wouldn't vote for her if she was the only person running.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur
Condi has the dubious distinction of being hated by blacks and women.
Well, by anyone with a working brain.
What? jesus christ, Suzanne Malveaux is a dumbass.
Boehlert has no monopoly on Truth. He does not see equivocation in HRC, I do. Stop linking to Media Matters as though it's God itself, please.
plantsman
How Obama. "I don't agree so STFU"
Censorship and voter suppression -the new politics.
Spiritual people inspire me.
Religious people scare the shit out of me!
As far as I know, everyone in my peer group was afflicted with virginity.
Well, we didn't go "all the way" when I was in high school, either. That was for sluts! Until we got to college, that is ...
Word that Meek and Wasserman Shultz wouldn't help infuriated party activists. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee's official blog earlier this week referred to three incumbents as "some of President Bush's most reliable rubbberstamps.''
LIer | 03.15.08 - 5:09 pm | #
Both Schultz and Meek, the ones with all the close ties to republics, are hrc super-delegates.
http://projects.washingtonpost.c...es/d/states/fl/
Sorta like hrc herself:
http://www.observer.com/2008/bil...tionship-
mccain
Take a first semester logic class and get back to me.
Hey Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office
are you still here?
Just wanted to say thank you for your comment above about f Telcoms get RI then they will have a distinct economic advantage over other businesses and then other businesses should raise hell over it.
I have been casting about for some time for a reason WHY anyone other than the EFF and us would care about RI for the telcos. And you hit on it.
It is a financial angle that OTHER corporations can talk about.
Thank you. This is one reason I read blogs, sometimes I read the perfect concept that I can use to move an argument forward.
This is an important idea. Why? Because I want OTHER big companies to work against the telcos!
"MOMMMMM! AT&T is getting a present and I'm not! Either I get one too or I'm going to scream!"
"Oh all right. Now AT&T won't get anything. There, you happy?"
(Other business sticks tongue out at AT&T)
Condi has the dubious distinction of being hated by blacks and women.
Imagine her running one year on the strength of repug white male voters. I don't think so!
Oh noes!!! maine coon attack!!
You can never trust the media.
http://skepticalbrotha.wordpress...tor-speaks-out/
I want to live in a world where people pay as much attention to the actions of the President as they pay attention to sports.
"I'm curious to hear how actual feminists will react to his column."
What do you mean by "actual" feminists?
The ones that aren't old, dried-up dykes and know how to "rock out," silly!
I guess the "tech-savvy" young republican's Saturday night shift has started.
Take a first semester logic class and get back to me.
plantsman, | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:16 pm | #
snappy comeback that
you could have career as pundit
Bugs is a 20 year old young republican being paid to spout nonsense.
Thank you.
Maddy takes 4LG!
We just found out our PITA dog has cancer, a very aggressive hemangiosarcoma. Now I feel bad for being so mean to him all these years!
Southern Beale
We have an eighteen dog that we got from a rescue organization back in 1991 (best $45.00 I ever spent).
Her eyesight is bad, she can't hear well and she's pretty much in a little world of her own.
But, she's eating and sleeping well and her vital signs are fine so we don't know how much longer she will be with us.
I hope she has a few more good years.
Hey, Spocko!
I was just thinking of you... there might be a little surprise waiting for you at Eschacon (or maybe not... don't get your hopes up, but we'll see)!
So it would have been all right if Rev Wright had said, "God bless America for treating our citizens as less than human." instead of God damn? I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
George Johnston
Rev. Wright correctly predicts the karmic consequences of our own blind, greedy behavior. And it ain't pretty.
If Wasserman doesn't want to help dem candidates, then by god, I think she should be looking for a primary challenger next time.
Illeana Ross-leighten (or whatever the fuck her name is) ia a blight on the congress
Sorry - EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD dog.
Damn wine!
snappy comeback that
you could have career as pundit
I'm brain-damaged, but I can reason.
What's your (non-snotty) excuse?
Southern Beale
Nothing that indicates an illness. He was thoroughly checked out just a few months ago. Just wants to be fed more often and at specific times. Like 4:00 a.m. Wants to be attached to a lap or the warm part of the computer 24/7. That kind of stuff. But thanks for the reminder.
I guess the "tech-savvy" young republican's Saturday night shift has started.
Isn't spring break starting?
Fasten your seatbelts!
Later, 'bats,
Been fun. I don't think I made anyone mad today. That is an improvement as my mood is still kind of toxic. I am at the point right now where I really do not believe that changing the leadership of this country is going to be enough: the rich people have just taken too much and they will not share anymore and are in the process of punishing people severely for the crime of being poor: something that I (and very few others apparently) find particularly heinous. So my revolution is a lonely one. But I am willing to wait and see . . . .
Peace - for now.
So it would have been all right if Rev Wright had said, "God bless America for treating our citizens as less than human." instead of God damn? I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
George Johnston
Rev. Wright correctly predicts the karmic consequences of our own blind, greedy behavior. And it ain't pretty.
I agree with that.
Illeana Ross-leighten (or whatever the fuck her name is) ia a blight on the congress
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur
I saw her on Maher's show and I wished fervently that I could have reached into the teevee set and grabbed her by the throat.
She is in dire need of good bitch-slapping.
Illeana Ross-leighten (or whatever the fuck her name is) ia a blight on the congress
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:19 pm | #
Sadly, many of the women in both elected and appointed positions have proven themselves as big a bunch of assholes as men. Jerks are jerks, regardless of their plumbing.
dave™
McBush doesn't know what "recession" actually means cause it's a "technical term."
I guess Carly isn't with him.
I'm still trying to figure out what Rev. Wright said that was wrong.
Jerks are jerks, regardless of their plumbing.
Brooklyn Girl
May I borrow this line?
Sadly, many of the women in both elected and appointed positions have proven themselves as big a bunch of assholes as men. Jerks are jerks, regardless of their plumbing.
Yep.
Damn wine!
Them's fightin' words!
Sadly, many of the women in both elected and appointed positions have proven themselves as big a bunch of assholes as men. Jerks are jerks, regardless of their plumbing.
Brooklyn Girl
Michelle Bachmann is the one who kills me.
WHO in god's name would find Chimpy the least bit attractive???????
I guess that's what being a beard does to you.
I'm still trying to figure out what Rev. Wright said that was wrong.
Me too.
Hillary all the way!
Like father, like mutant bastard son.
Your daddy is really shining thru now, Little Karl.
You want Hillary to run because the republic leadership ain't got nothing for Obama, just like you didn't have anything for Bill C. in the 90's.
The difference is now, your masters have fucked shit up so bad that the republic party is going to get gutted like a big crappie.
Imagine her running one year on the strength of repug white male voters. I don't think so!
Marcellina
The Repigs are DONE with Condi.
She's served her purpose.
Damn wine!
-------------------------
Them's fightin' words!
Southern Beale
Why is McBush going on about tax hikes?
If you don't make over $250 K a year, your taxes are not going to go up if the tax cuts expire.
Moron.
Anybody who says they won't vote for the other democratic candidate that they don't support if that person is nominated is a Karl Rove plant.
Rev. Wright is angry that he's been used and victimized. Angry white folks just can't forgive that.
They shouldn't let McBush talk about the economy.
He just sounds like a moron.
Which he is, of course.
Michelle Bachmann is the one who kills me.
You mean the lurker?
So it would have been all right if Rev Wright had said, "God bless America for treating our citizens as less than human." instead of God damn? I don't think what he said was all that controversial.
George Johnston
I didn't see what the big deal was, either.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:23 pm | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
I hope she has a few more good years.
Terry C - aka Hussein
Our old boy Shiba is 15--blinded by a little stroke about a year ago, and barely able to get around--but more loving and faithful than any humans...
I just chant Daimoku that he passes peacefully, in his sleep.
Your daddy is really shining thru now, Little Karl.
You want Hillary to run because the republic leadership ain't got nothing for Obama, just like you didn't have anything for Bill C. in the 90's.
This is an insecure person who would rather tear down another democrat, just like Karl Rove wants, than to positively support their own. Thanks, Karl.
Anybody who says they won't vote for the other democratic candidate that they don't support if that person is nominated is a Karl Rove plant.
You wish. HRC proving that she's a Karl Rove disciple is plenty good for you.
Speaking of Steverino's ancient interview with Patti Smith, I'm proud to say I read it on the original stone tablets.
In fact, IIRC, at some point around that time I think I was a little pissed with Mr. Simels because I seem to recall him not being fully supportive of the whole "punk" thing... might have been a less-than-enthusiastic Ramones review, but I'd have to ask him.
Of course, at the time, NOBODY liked "punk". Rolling Stone was a real battleground...
I'm still trying to figure out what Rev. Wright said that was wrong.
According to FOX news, when he said, "God DAMN America," that was wrong, and when he used the word "nigger," that was wrong, too, and should be fried in the fire pits of Hell for it.
Of course, at the time, NOBODY liked "punk". Rolling Stone was a real battleground...
dave™© | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:26 pm | #
how many onions were you wearing on your belt?
I just chant Daimoku that he passes peacefully, in his sleep.
under the radar
We had a Siamese that we got when he was two months old back in June 1975.
By June of 1994, he had pretty much outlived his respiratory system....at least that's what the vet said.
He was looking real bad and I had made an appointment to bring him in and have him put down.
The day before the appointment, I came downstairs and found that he had died in his sleep.
That was Piewacket.....never wanted to cause anyone pain.
Not a day I don't think of Pie.
Wow - these guys just started playing "Dancing Barefoot."
Weird...
This is an insecure person who would rather tear down another democrat, just like Karl Rove wants, than to positively support their own. Thanks, Karl.
That's hogwash. Obama has not wallowed in Rove's filth. HRC has and does.
Anybody who says they won't vote for the other democratic candidate that they don't support if that person is nominated is a Karl Rove plant.
You wish. HRC proving that she's a Karl Rove disciple is plenty good for you.
plantsman, | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:26 pm
I thought you were going to reform and not make insulting remarks about other democratic candidates.
Not to make anyone jealous, but I'm in Tacoma today.
According to FOX news, when he said, "God DAMN America," that was wrong, and when he used the word "nigger," that was wrong, too, and should be fried in the fire pits of Hell for it.
I guess I missed the time when HRC was called a nigger.
Of course, at the time, NOBODY liked "punk".
'Cept me. Something about the Sex Pistols - maybe it was their naughty, nasty, dirty boy image - really appealed to this wild and crazy Catholic girl.
how many onions were you wearing on your belt?
Only plastic hippies wore onions then, man...
I'm still trying to figure out what Rev. Wright said that was wrong.
According to some commenters at my place, "his words are not "speaking out against the government" - they are hatred, pure and simple. He defames Christ every time he rails against "white folks" or even "rich white folks" ... " and "Black liberation theology is heresy..."
I'm really not getting too much into the content of what Rev. Wright said, because I think what's important here is the line being crossed: a politician being told to repudiate his pastor's comments. That is political interference in what's being said from the pulpit. And that is a very dangerous thing.
Not to make anyone jealous, but I'm in Tacoma today.
How LUCKY for you!!!
Little billy b., Can you spell out what is so unique about Obama, other then the fact, that he is running as a black man?
According to FOX news, when he said, "God DAMN America," that was wrong, and when he used the word "nigger," that was wrong, too, and should be fried in the fire pits of Hell for it.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Only FAUX News' devoted viewers are permitted to say the "n" word.
I thought you
Don't presume to think for me, shithead.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:28 pm | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
I like Tacoma.
As Robin Hitchcock said, "Viva Sea-Tac!"
Speaking of atrocities, right now some independent journalists are testifying about Iraq:
http://ivaw.org/
http://www.pacifica.org/
http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/...x.php?
name=home
http://www.democracynow.org/
http://www.livevideo.com/video/e...aq-
afghani.aspx
Also:
Dish Network: Channel 9415.
Of course, at the time, NOBODY liked "punk".
Patti Smith was the only punk I liked. I hated the Sex Pisotls and the Dead Kennedies and all of that. Too much anger for me. And I really had a thing about my musicians being able to carry a tune.
Awwwh, that's kinda sad, Terry C. I've lost both cats and dogs, and for some reason, it was harder with the kittie.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:29 pm | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
He defames Christ every time he rails against "white folks" or even "rich white folks" ... "
I see.
So Jesus was a rich white man.
Uh.......................huh.
I'm really not getting too much into the content of what Rev. Wright said, because I think what's important here is the line being crossed: a politician being told to repudiate his pastor's comments. That is political interference in what's being said from the pulpit. And that is a very dangerous thing.
I don't hear rethugs having to repudiate and condemn cracker evangelists.
That's hogwash. Obama has not wallowed in Rove's filth. HRC has and does.
plantsman, | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:28 pm | #
I am getting tired of this false equivalence crap.
Mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari, Your late. Didya have a Emp. Club date?
The "Tacoma Aroma" is duly famed in these parts. Not because it's pleasant.
Of course, at the time, NOBODY liked "punk".
'Cept me.
Well, I meant nobody in the "rock press"... though that isn't completely accurate either. CREEM was all for it, and RS let a few "positive" pieces filter in, too.
The lack of supportive coverage started a whole new generation of DIY 'zines.
The big battleground was on radio. You kids today may not realize it, but once upon a time you had to listen to a college station MAYBE (or the great KSAN in San Francisco) to hear Elvis C. or the Clash or any of the other bands they use to sell cars these days...
Of course, at the time, NOBODY liked "punk".
It only got played on college stations.
It was a big conspiracy or something.
Awwwh, that's kinda sad, Terry C. I've lost both cats and dogs, and for some reason, it was harder with the kittie.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Vicki,
I lost my first Boston Terrier in January 2005 to cancer. Got him when he was two months old in 1990,
I STILL cannot think about or talk about Bonzo without crying. I loved that little guy.
Coke to dave
Not to make anyone jealous, but I'm in Tacoma today.
You have succeeded. be careful when crossing the Narrows Bridge, young man.
The fajitas from the carniceria taste sooo much better than the ones from the grocery store. It's not even close.
LP: Obama's Pastor: 'Hillary ain't never been called a n ...No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. ... Jeremiah Wright. Among the comments captured on video
I'm sorry, but (none / 0)
I will not go out of my way to defend someone who talks about Monica Lewinsky and makes obscene hip movements at the pulpit. I would be embarrassed to go to this man's defense. Talking about how the only Democratic president in my lifetime RODE an intern (and dirty, no less) is not part of black theology. If this man is Obama's "moral compass", then god help us. No wonder Michelle has made such rude, insensitive, uncalled-for remarks about Hillary. She's been listening to her minister.
For the record, none of this is "private". Wright himself obviously doesn't want this to be private. It isn't as if a Fox News correspondent snuck into the church and taped these sermons. These sermons are being sold online, are they not? Wright wants people to see this. As far as I'm concerned, Faux obtained this footage fair and square. As a Hillary supporter, I see no reason to use it against Obama, but I also see no reason to defend it. Best to leave it alone altogether and let people draw their own conclusions.
Hillary Clinton has never been called a "nigger", but Barack Obama has never been called a thick-ankled cunt, either. They have each been attacked because of their race/gender. Racism is not the only form of bigotry.
Mexico?Drops Out Of?2008 Summer Olympics?
President Felipe Calderon of?Mexico?has announced that?Mexico?will not participate in the?Beijing?Summer Olympics.
He stated:
'Casi cada uno que puede funcionar, saltar, o la nadada ha salido ya?del?pais.'
Translation:
'Pretty much everyone who can run, jump, or swim has already left the country
I don't hear rethugs having to repudiate and condemn cracker evangelists.
Huckleberry is a pastor, for Christ's sake (literally and figuratively).
Why has the media not rifled through his 20 years of sermons? I'm sure there's a nugget or two within that drivel that I, as a liberal and a woman, would find deeply offensive.
Not to make anyone jealous, but I'm in Tacoma today.
NTodd's got a photo up of the mystery city he's in this weekend. Take a look and tell me if it's Tacoma — it looks sort of Pacific Northwest.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:31 pm | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
I hated the Sex Pisotls and the Dead Kennedies and all of that. Too much anger for me. And I really had a thing about my musicians being able to carry a tune.
Southern Beale
I knew there was a reason I like you!
Come and sit by me.
Why has the media not rifled through his 20 years of sermons? I'm sure there's a nugget or two within that drivel that I, as a liberal and a woman, would find deeply offensive.
If they make him the VEEP candidate, I say we do just that.
I'm making a list of interesting idioms to look up their origins one day. For instance, "hogwash". What is it? Mud?
Then there's the "I heard in on the grapevine." Why grapevine?
The origins of eavesdropping were interesting, having to do with how when rain started people stood under the eaves to stay dry and so they overheard what others inside the buildings said.
I'm really not getting too much into the content of what Rev. Wright said, because I think what's important here is the line being crossed: a politician being told to repudiate his pastor's comments. That is political interference in what's being said from the pulpit. And that is a very dangerous thing.
Southern Beale
Nobody noticing what Hillary's pastor says, or McCain's, or W's. Do they even have pastors?
Pastors don't speak to the nation. They preach the word of God as they understand it, to a faith community gathered to hear it. Don't like what Pastor said? Not his/her problem. Don't want to hear it? Go to another church.
I preferred Obama when he said the press was 'cherry-picking' Wright's words. Then he abandoned even that. But the whole issue is as pointless and irrelevant as whether or not Obama is a closet Muslim.
The Rev. Wright flap is just more proof that the first thing Obama needs to do when he gets in office is thin the ranks of the right wing talk show hosts by reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine.
Its OK to have one or two of them, but there's about 20 and almost no liberals.
All I heard on the radio last week was this Rev. Wright bullshit.
Something about the Sex Pistols - maybe it was their naughty, nasty, dirty boy image - really appealed to this wild and crazy Catholic girl.
The great KSAN did the only interview where the band (and Lydon in particular) were dead serious. Of course, KSAN was about the only station in the country playing them in heavy rotation. The legendary Bonnie Simmons had them on for a couple of hours, and then they broadcast their Winterland show live that night (the last show).
KSAN also broke Elvis C. - they were playing every cut off "My Aim is True" when it was an import constantly.
The station got crucified for their support of punk/new wave.
We're talking punk now? Stiff Little Fingers' first two albums are the schiz.
And Billy Bragg's Peel Sessions are quite the beautiful affair.
Mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
On your knees, bitch!
Hi kids. I heard there was a party here.
Is the booze all gone?
Yes or no:
Should I finally get out of bed, take a shower, and toss the pajamas down the chute?
BTW, didn't some guy named Hagee that endorsed McCain say something bad about Catholics?
I think I heard that somewhere.
Talking about how the only Democratic president in my lifetime RODE an intern (and dirty, no less) is not part of black theology. If this man is Obama's "moral compass", then god help us.
Your expertise is duly noted.
And ignored.
the Clash were just so much fun to watch, as was Gang of Four. Tom Verlaine was great, as were the Dictators, but watching Sonic Youth go from really shitty to really good over a period of 6 months was something else.
That's Portland, Or in NTodd's pic
Then there's the "I heard in on the grapevine." Why grapevine?
In the south grapevine often grows all over fences.
I'm guessing the expression arose from peeps gossiping to each other through those fences.
The rightwing media has made an issue of Senator Clinton's being a Methodist and the fact they honor gay marriage.
If they make him the VEEP candidate, I say we do just that.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur |
I heard that the Repig powers that be want Romney.
Checking the mail: AmEx sez I has excellent credit and wants to give me a card. I'm firing up the shredder.
The Rev. Wright flap is just more proof that the first thing Obama needs to do when he gets in office is thin the ranks of the right wing talk show hosts by reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine.
Its OK to have one or two of them, but there's about 20 and almost no liberals.
All I heard on the radio last week was this Rev. Wright bullshit.
I'll drink to that proposal.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:34 pm | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
What we need is for John Hagee and Obama's ex-preacher to have a kooky lunatic godbotherer hate-off contest on national Teevee.
KSAN also broke Elvis C. - they were playing every cut off "My Aim is True" when it was an import constantly.
Well, you know I left my heart in San Francisco, and Elvis Costello still has it.
God, I love his lyrics.
Coke to dave
Ahhhhhh... refreshing!
I heard that the Repig powers that be want Romney.
I'm sure there is gold in them thar hills too!!
Why has the media not rifled through his 20 years of sermons?
Huckleberry has refused to release them.
Who thinks if he was still in the race the media would make an issue of it?
Should I finally get out of bed, take a shower, and toss the pajamas down the chute?
Nah, why waste the rest of a perfectly good evening?
Over the past few months I’ve noticed that things have become progressively more abusive toward my candidate and her supporters.
No one in this community has ever been abusive to me......I'm not talking about trolls and name-stealers.
And I would HOPE that I have not offended any member of this community.
BTW, didn't some guy named Hagee that endorsed McCain say something bad about Catholics?
Yes, he did.
Been fun. I don't think I made anyone mad today. That is an improvement as my mood is still kind of toxic. I am at the point right now where I really do not believe that changing the leadership of this country is going to be enough: the rich people have just taken too much and they will not share anymore and are in the process of punishing people severely for the crime of being poor: something that I (and very few others apparently) find particularly heinous. So my revolution is a lonely one. But I am willing to wait and see . . . .
Peace - for now.
Beowulf Schaeffer-Revolutionary
But OTOH, since all the traditions that have supported the status quo are now quietly collapsing, we find ourselves having to think for ourselves (and each other), introspecting on our own behavior, and each engaging finally in the very internal revolution of character of which you speak. In fact, it ain't so lonely; we are all doing it, in our own ways, as well.
I practice Buddhism. It's called "Human Revolution."
Where did all this "renounce and repudiate" your supporters shit come from this year? It's boring as fuck-all and a poor substitute for actually questioning a candidate about their opinions and policy positions.
Mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
On your knees, bitch!
And you WILL swallow!
I don't hear rethugs having to repudiate and condemn cracker evangelists.
What we need is for John Hagee and Obama's ex-preacher to have a kooky lunatic godbotherer hate-off contest on national Teevee.
melior
Make them fight it out with socks loaded with horse manure.
Where'd Ol Yeller go?
Well, must go run some errands.
Almost out of kitteh litter.
OH NOES!!
I left my heart in San Francisco, and Elvis Costello still has it.
I have never heard him sing that when he's playing here... he may have, but I missed it. I keep expecting.
I did hear him do the Dead's "Ship of Fools" at the Fillmore...
power, ferraro, and wright; all axed for stating the obvious.
And Billy Bragg's Peel Sessions are quite the beautiful affair.
Florida
Aiiieee! Commue!
I don't hear rethugs having to repudiate and condemn cracker evangelists.
Eggg-zackly. And why is that? Because what they are saying agrees with the government's agenda?
Scary times, peeps.
I really HATE niggers.
Bugs is also a misogynist.
Er, I mean "commie".
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:38 pm | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
Where did all this "renounce and repudiate" your supporters shit come from this year? It's boring as fuck-all and a poor substitute for actually questioning a candidate about their opinions and policy positions.
SteveLG
Beats asking about the price of wheat. Or oil. Or healthcare.
Apparently. Hell, even Olbermann came on his own show last night just to ask Obama about what Wright said in a sermon 5 years ago.
Well, since "My Aim is True," I really must hit the showers.
Well, now we know what Bugs is really all about.
Bugs is also a misogynist.
But he's a charming conversationalist.
BTW, didn't some guy named Hagee that endorsed McCain say something bad about Catholics?
Yes, he did.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
William Donahue has got his panties all in a twist over that.
I hate ragheads, too.
I saw Elvis Costello at the Greek theater. Lots of beautiful women at his show.
Mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
On your knees, bitch!
And you WILL swallow!
McCain has said that he “repudiates” Hagee’s words “that are anti-Semitic or anti-Catholic, racist, any other,” thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/mccain-hagee-anti-
gay/ -
NTodd† ~
How I've missed you, darling.
I don't hear rethugs having to repudiate and condemn cracker evangelists.
Eggg-zackly. And why is that? Because what they are saying agrees with the government's agenda?
Because what they're saying keeps the lizard brains in line.
And the Repukkkes need the lizard brains.
Bugs is a 20 year old young republican being paid to spout nonsense.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur
Not like he has a date or anything of that nature.
NTodd's got a photo up of the mystery city he's in this weekend. Take a look and tell me if it's Tacoma — it looks sort of Pacific Northwest.
Marcellina
I thought the color of the building out front looked kind of Meditaranean.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen Billy Bragg.
I really can't. Lots, I'm sure.
The vicious and constant attacks on Hillary made by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, and many of the Obama supporters is many, many times more vicious than anything Hillary has ever said about Obama.
The Obama supporters who continue to insist upon their right to tear apart the democratic party by parroting Rush Limbaugh had better examine themselves and their movtives. They make the Obama movement look like a bunch of vicious republican attack dogs. They dishonor Barack, and are utterly opposite to Barack's philosophy of a new kind of 'Transformational' politics that rises above hate and transcends party.
The truth hurts - go right ahead and whine about it.
I'm still a virgin too.
Florida
Ever hear the 2 discs Billy Bragg did with Wilco? outstanding stuff.
William Donahue has got his panties all in a twist over that.
Terry C - aka Hussein
I might pay some money for the Hagee/Donahue cage match......
I saw Elvis Costello at the Greek theater. Lots of beautiful women at his show.
Funny how that works...
Saw him there on the "Imperial Bedroom" tour. For an encore, he did a killer version of the O'Jay's "Backstabbers."
... the first thing Obama needs to do when he gets in office is thin the ranks of the right wing talk show hosts by reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine.
Bush, in Nashville last week speaking to the National Assn. of Religious Broadcasters, already spread that fear candy/a>:
"Bush reassured the friendly crowd of about 1,250 that he would not let the fairness doctrine be reinstated while he was in the White House.
“If Congress should ever pass any legislation that stifles your right to express your views, I’m going to veto it,” Bush told the crowd, prompting a long, standing ovation. "
Bugs is a 20 year old young republican being squished by killfile.
FYT.
Er, I mean "commie".
melior
Billy does have some out there political views. But the man can write a love song.
Damn those dropped tags.
I"M SORRY!!!!!!!!
The truth hurts - go right ahead and whine about it.
Your concern is duly noted.
Eggg-zackly. And why is that? Because what they are saying agrees with the government's agenda?
Scary times, peeps.
Southern Beale
More likely, money. Hagee has lots of supporters, and is very wealthy. Ditto Robertson, Falwell (when he was alive), Dobson (who isn't a pastor, but is still crazy as a loon), and most of those guys the media pays attention to.
Wright is black, runs a real church, and doesn't preach the Gospel of Prosperity or of hell-fire and damnation. But he doesn't command a huge radio audience, or have a TV audience, or otherwise ingratiate himself to the political power structure. So he's easy to run over, has he's NOK, doncha know.
I never could understand why being given a blowjob would give the recipient a feeling of great power. Someone's teeth around your dick...
Well, guess what? I was turned away from family group at my daughter's rehab!
Mermaid Avenue (part 1) was super, super terrific.
Part 2? Good, I guess.
Ever hear the 2 discs Billy Bragg did with Wilco? outstanding stuff.
Mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Those are classics. Good call!
Keith Olbermann's hypocrisy knows no bounds. He smears Hillary Clinton, with a lifelong record of supporting Civil Rights and the African American community, by comparing her to David Duke and the KKK, while IGNORING the racist rantings of Barack Obama's pastor of 20 years.
Reverand Wright is man he listened to for guidance for 20 years. The man that married him and Michelle. The man that baptized both of his girls. What kind of "judgement" does that show on Obama's part?
sallyh:
why?
Billy does have some out there political views. But the man can write a love song.
Florida
He's an outstanding songwriter. There are a couple of great love songs on Workers' Playtime.
It's not Haggee's anti-Catholicism that will tar McCain, it is the anti-semitism that he shares with so many of the other fundie whackjobs who have endorsed McCain. I bet we'll hear lots more about that in the general election.
Well, guess what? I was turned away from family group at my daughter's rehab!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Ooogh. Wish I could do more than say "Sorry" on a blog comment. Lot of injustice in that rejection, Madame P.
I saw "No Country for Old Men" on DVD last night.
Great movie. Deserved the Oscar.
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 5:45 pm | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
the anti-semitism that he shares with so many of the other fundie whackjobs who have endorsed McCain. I bet we'll hear lots more about that in the general election.
Mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
But didn't all those fundie whackjobs endorse Chimpy?
Didn't hurt him any.
Sallyh, what happened?
Flory, I was told that this was family education group, and not a place to work out family issues. I asked if Mlle had requested I not participate. They said no, but we know there are issues with your family, and you'll have plenty of time to work those out after she leaves.
My head spins.
Awww shit, Sallyh. I'm so, so sorry. Lotsa hugs coming your way.
"Levi Stubbs' Tears" is my favorite Billy Bragg song, by a wide margin.
What kind of "judgement" does that show on Obama's part?
You spelled judgment wrong, troll.
I never could understand why being given a blowjob would give the recipient a feeling of great power. Someone's teeth around your dick...
please, you are using concepts too advanced for the troll. try this:
sharp teeth around your dick. you likeee?
Zap, truly, no biggie. The center and I have philosophical differences that will not be bridged. What disturbs me more is that they have no aftercare program in place for her.
Reverand Wright is man he listened to for guidance for 20 years. The man that married him and Michelle. The man that baptized both of his girls. What kind of "judgement" does that show on Obama's part?
Bugs
You know what, "Bugs." I've baptized people, married 'em, and preached more than a few sermons, and offered such guidance as was mine to offer. If anyone I married or baptized or who listened to my sermons thereby became responsible for whatever I said, I never knew it until now. NOr did they, for that matter.
The entire attempt to create a burden on a church member for whatever a pastor may say in whatever sermon he or she may preach, is ludicrous. Completely and totally ludicrous.
Over at FDL, Alterman's doing the Book Salon thing.
I noticed a couple of familiar names in the comments...
I saw "No Country for Old Men" on DVD last night.
It's something else, ain't it? In fact, Zapette just called me from the movie store saying that they were all out of it. We wanted to watch it tonight. I know it's for rent on the iTunes store, but I don't have the means of transferring it from my computer to the TV.
sallyh:
what's 'family education'?
Have you attended these sessions before?
Anyone have an update on the construction crane collapse in Midtown Manhattan?
I just finished reading emails on my hotmail account. Emails from Barack and Hillary went straight to my inbox. Three emails from John McCain were sent to my "Junk" folder.
How does it know?
Flory, no, I've been told I'm not welcome in the previous weeks.
The entire attempt to create a burden on a Democratic church member for whatever a pastor may say in whatever sermon he or she may preach, is ludicrous. Completely and totally ludicrous.
Rmj, Eminence Front
finessed yer tango.....
It's something else, ain't it? In fact, Zapette just called me from the movie store saying that they were all out of it.
She needs to rob someone that has a copy. Show no mercy.
Yucki, I read this and thought of you:
Such inordinate and low desires,
Such poor, such bare, such lewd, such mean attempts,
Such barren pleasures, rude society,
As thou art match'd withal, and grafted to!
Bar "FUBAR" leveled in construction crane incident. One employee said to be in the rubble.
Anyone have an update on the construction crane collapse in Midtown Manhattan?
2 dead ones the last time I checked.
The entire attempt to create a burden on a church member for whatever a pastor may say in whatever sermon he or she may preach, is ludicrous. Completely and totally ludicrous.
Rmj, Eminence Front | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 5:49 pm | #
I agree.
Neither candidate is responsible for what others say, only for what they say about the issues.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/
ne...0,7172438.story
Flory, no, I've been told I'm not welcome in the previous weeks.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I don't get it...what's the point of family therapy if the family isn't allowed in?
Comment by mimi ß and Ω blocked.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
It's something else, ain't it? In fact, Zapette just called me from the movie store saying that they were all out of it.
I'm about to return the copy I rented yesterday, friend-o. Maybe she can get it!
Mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
03.15.08 - 5:46 pm |
Maybe on the alternate Earth with a decent mass media. Hagee's "anti-Semitism," a militant neo-colonialist unquestionigly Likudnik borderline Identity Christianity philo-Semitism, is the kind of hate that either gets tolerated or endorsed.
I should either pay the bills or clean the bathroom or clean my clothes closet.
How should these be ranked? And how long can I hang out here to procrastinate?
Little billy b., Can you spell out what is so unique about Obama, other then the fact, that he is running as a black man?
Bugs
Sure. He cares about the Common Good, the common people, and he can't be bought.
*Gomez buying compressed air tank thingie for protection*
Flory, that's just it. It's not therapy. They don't do family therapy. They don't want to get into family issues. My SIL attended last weekend and it basically consisted of, don't make any demands on the addict in terms of work, school, relationships, etc. Comments from the participants are apparently not welcomed--as the counselor explained, it's the job of the family and friends that come here to sit and listen, not to question.
mimi ß and Ω | 03.15.08 - 5:53 pm | #
It was discovered the other night that Allen Butler gets very upset when reminded of his abject humiliation at the hands of the Sadly, No! crew.
so whatever you do, don't talk about Butler and Sadly, No!
it's a sore spot for the troll.
William Donahue has got his panties all in a twist over that.
Terry C - aka Hussein
I might pay some money for the Hagee/Donahue cage match......
flory
I would like to be the special guest referee.
I'd do that for free!
Flory, Hagee--Donahue: better be a death match.
What is killfile and how do you use it?
Have the trolls eaten diseased wolverine dick and died?
I'm really sorry, Sallyh. Sounds like you need a better group than the one on offer, and yet: is it available under the circumstances?
My prayers are for you.
If you kill someone, can you unkill them?
*Gomez deciding whether to killfile Bugs - flips coin*
Call it!!!!
Flory, also, Mlle told her counselors that her parents both held PhDs, and their attitude was, no wonder they're so toxic. They think they know everything.
I saw "No Country for Old Men" on DVD last night.
Alas, I can't watch it. Too dark, too violent.
a militant neo-colonialist unquestionigly Likudnik borderline Identity Christianity philo-Semitism, is the kind of hate that either gets tolerated or endorsed.
which is why a careful, concise, and clear explanation for why Haggee's "Christians United For Israel" is a group of batshit insane whackjobs. McCain needs to be asked again and again if this is the kind of Christianity he supports.
How should these be ranked? And how long can I hang out here to procrastinate?
Here's how you clean the bathroom: get the tub wet, throw in cleanser, go chack the thread.
Ditto sink, check the thread. Clean toilet, check the thread.
Damp mop bathroom floor, and that'll take time to dry, so you check the thread.
Ω
Oh noes! imim has got herself an Anti-Life Equation, somewhere between her modeling and engineering jobs in Switzerland!
Can you spell out what is so unique about Obama, other then the fact, that he is running as a black man?
Why don't you just admit you are racist and knock off the bullshit?
And, like Toby and pud, you don't like the idea that a woman is running for president anymore than an African-American is.
You're not fooling anyone.
In other news:
Media hounded: I was cleared in the Times Square blast. Why didn't the media get the message?
Er, because the media wants to keep people SKEERED.
We can address no other problem until we end this fucking crime.
It is bleeding us white and destroying us.
Heads! (What else?)
Mlle told her counselors that her parents both held PhDs, and their attitude was, "oh, fuck, they know more than we do - keep them out of here!"
FYT...
How I've missed you, darling.
Oh, don't lie...
OK, since I'm getting no response, should I assume I've been killed?
(Paranoia lurking)
Heads! (What else?)
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
It's tails.
Killfiles Bugs with compressed air tank thingie.
I should either pay the bills or clean the bathroom or clean my clothes closet.
How should these be ranked? And how long can I hang out here to procrastinate?
Echidne
All of them rank well below hanging out with friends and family.
Besides, the bathroom will just get all dirty again, so what's the point?
"Neither candidate is responsible for what others say, only for what they say about the issues."
And yet, they are ultimately responsible for the words of their surrogates, even if only to clarify or expand/denounce.
Anyone have an update on the construction crane collapse in Midtown Manhattan?
Southern Beale
at least four dead; one l bldg crushed; others seriously damaged.
there were 9 bldg code violations against that site; and many people in the nabe said it was a common concern about the way things were being done there.
sheets
under the radar | 03.15.08 - 6:03 pm | #
I'm alive!!!!!!!!!!!
dave, LOL! Apparently her head counselor did use the word 'toxic' in describing me
It was discovered the other night that Allen Butler gets very upset when reminded of his abject humiliation at the hands of the Sadly, No! crew.
They're stuck with Butler AND Gary Ruppert?
Talk Left:
"9/11 Victims Compensation Averaged 3.1 Million Each"
why were 9/11 victims so lavishly rewarded?
their attitude was, no wonder they're so toxic. They think they know everything.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I'm sure that was extremely helpful.
"Neither candidate is responsible for what others say, only for what they say about the issues."
And yet, they are ultimately responsible for the words of their surrogates, even if only to clarify or expand/denounce.
under the radar | 03.15.08 - 6:03 pm | #
Absolutely. The column I linked to made exactly that point.
Sure. He cares about the Common Good, the common people, and he can't be bought.
under the radar
----------------
Talk to Tony Rezko
"I should either pay the bills or clean the bathroom or clean my clothes closet."
save those for tonight, so when i ask you out, you'll be too busy.
Speaking of DVDs, my lovely wife and I saw a very interesting documentary on Ub Iwerks on the two-disc restoration of Disney's "Oswald the Lucky Rabbit."
Even my wife thought it was fascinating! Iwerks' granddaughter, Leslie, did it, and later went on to get nominated for an Oscar for this.
I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I don't think I've ever been to "sadly no"
Apparently her head counselor did use the word 'toxic' in describing me.
Maybe you should drink more water. I hear that helps cleanse!
Obama's "momentum" is grinding to a halt. The Republicans know how fickle the American public is and Hillary would be more difficult to beat by the time November rolls around. Obama has a mere 3 years federal legislative experience and lacks executive experience. He is underqualified and he can't talk his way around that.
Sallyh,
I am so sorry.
I know I've discussed AA before, and I have mixed emotions about the Program, but in some places, and in some cases, you may really be able to get a TON out of certain group meetings.
My ex, the one who lives in SF, has now been sober since March 15, 2001! (Seven years today!) He's up in the Bay Area, but I know that he believes that if it were not for the great meetings and support he's found, he'd be dead by now. Also just heard, last week, that he's going to marry an artist - a very big step for him, to recommit to someone since his first marriage ended almost 20 years ago.
But regardless, you are a brilliant, resilient, vibrant woman, and if there is anything I can do to help you, please write me.
Good game trifecta! It was pretty close all the way.
New tread hurry
It's tails.
:
Obama's "momentum" is grinding to a halt.
Nope.
Not even on the same planet, Little Karl.
Red Rovester, red Rovester
Send the little mutant right over
"have democrats, will slime"-mccainstream media
Jesus Christ called his nation "A generation of vipers." Jeremiah called the wrath of God down on Israel. When hasn't a fiery preacher railed against some aspect of his imperfect time? Thing is, some like Wright inveigh against injustice, others like Hagee and Phelps preach a religion of hatred and personal vengeance.
Slanties. sorry, kids. At least my damned router is working again.
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