I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Help!
So how many wingnuts does this make on their editorial page? Maybe I need to take off my shoes to count...
Does thaT help a all?
blerb, just baked | 12.29.07 - 12:27 pm |
Just don't quiz me about it.
wanna cancel. wanna not believe this.
arent there other conservatives
?
do they have to shop at Fox News?
He's going to investigate the paper from within.
The New York Times hired someone I don't like.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
at least bo bo will have someone to go to lunch with.
The New York Times just hired someone who doesn't like...The New York Times. That is, until he cashed that first fat Grey Lady check. It's all cozy now.
If you've ever been thrust into the public eye for a brief period of time and had journalists write about you, you know they always get it wrong.
Trust me. It happend to me as far back as 1987.
So it doesn't surprise me that Gilliard was done this way. It is incompetence.
So Kristol's a librul now?
Yeah, the New York Times hired someone I don't like, respect or trust. I expect more from a newspaper.
By the way, "Duncan", you are singularly obnoxious. But then, you knew that.
more importantly, the NYT has hired someone with a (proudly) hostile relationship with reality.
Fundamental regime change at the New York Times is not in the cards. Inspections and sanctions won’t work. Even the French can’t help. The Times is irredeemable. The question is whether a new newspaper of record will replace it.
I nominate the Philadelphia Inquirer, with its staff of plenty.
“I think it is an open question whether the Times itself should be prosecuted for this totally gratuitous revealing of an ongoing secret classified program that is part of the war on terror.” [Fox News, 7/2/06]
“I think the Justice Department has an obligation to consider prosecution.” [Fox News, 6/25/06]
Just keep posting this comment.
It is to laugh. Whore.
BTW, in case you missed it below, this recap of Ghouliani's various divorces by Gilliard is a must-read.
Wonder why Matt Bai didn't mention it?
I understand that when something really shocks me, the color runs out of my face.
I presume Kristol goes translucent.
The New York Times hired someone I don't li--
That's pretty funny, coming from a moronic brownshirt fuck.
Ask your paymasters about it, trolly...
Looks to me like Kristol drinks an awful lot.
He's got gin blossoms.
Kristol
Even at Bush's current low point in popularity, the leading GOP presidential candidates are competitive in the polls with Democratic Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama. Furthermore, one great advantage of the current partisan squabbling in Washington is that while it hurts Bush, it also damages the popularity of the Democratic Congress-- where both Clinton and Obama serve. A little mutual assured destruction between the Bush administration and Congress could leave the Republican nominee, who will most likely have no affiliation with either, in decent shape.
And what happens when voters realize in November 2008 that, if they choose a Democrat for president, they'll also get a Democratic Congress and therefore liberal Supreme Court justices? Many Americans will recoil from the prospect of being governed by an unchecked triumvirate of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. So the chances of a Republican winning the presidency in 2008 aren't bad.
What it comes down to is this: If Petraeus succeeds in Iraq, and a Republican wins in 2008, Bush will be viewed as a successful president.
I like the odds.
Looks to me like Kristol drinks an awful lot.
He has, for some reason, difficulty sleeping well...
Looks to me like Kristol drinks an awful lot.
Well, nobody's all bad. Cept maybe Rudi!
Looks to me like Kristol drinks an awful lot.
He's got gin blossoms.
Gomez
And a perma-leer grin, when the current topic is not humorous at all.
Bush will be viewed as a successful president.
And monkeys will speak in Latin.
Only wingnuts think the NYT is anything other than an establishment mouthpiece. Why would this move come as a surprise?
And a perma-leer grin, when the current topic is not humorous at all.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he always sits with his back to the wall.
they deserve each other. Print is dead anyway. Let them bury each other.
I posted it earlier - the NYT is George Costanza - helplessly attracted to people who hate it. The find it irresistible.
Free Press:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.c...we-know-
it.html
Freest press I can think of.
Kristol's getting ready for a Dem adminstration when leaks from the Times will become magically patriotic...
When he's on Fux, will they give his affiliation as "New York Times"?
well crap, guess this means the end of brown eggs.
Makes perfect sense to me. Kristol is desperate - for escalation of Mid-East conflicts.
And the NYT? Just look here:
http://finance.yahoo.com/
charts#...ource=undefined
Shorter NYT: "He beats me because he loves me."
Kristol's getting ready for a Dem adminstration when leaks from the Times will become magically patriotic...
NTodd, Now 80lbs Heavier
DK will be running a tight ship.
Hokey smokes, is Tipsy McStagger's little "pocket veto" bullshit gonna backfire?
For months, President Bush harangued Democrats in Congress for not moving quickly enough to support the troops and for bogging down military bills with unrelated issues.
And then Friday, with no warning, a vacationing Bush announced he will veto a sweeping military policy bill because of an obscure provision that could expose Iraq's new government to billions of dollars in legal claims dating to Saddam Hussein's rule.
The decision left the Bush administration scrambling to promise that it will work quickly with Congress to restore dozens of new military and veterans programs once Congress returns to work in January.
Bush's veto surprised and infuriated Democratic lawmakers and even some Republicans, who complained that the White House failed to raise its concerns earlier. And it gave Democrats a chance to wield Bush's support-the-troops oratory against him, which they did with relish.
"Only George Bush could be for supporting the troops before he was against it," Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., said in a statement, reworking a familiar Republican attack during his unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2004 that he supported the war in Iraq before he turned against it.
The veto was an embarrassment for administration officials, who struggled to explain why they had not acted earlier to object to the provision, Section 1083 of a 1,300-page, $696 billion defense authorization bill. It was unclear how the provision had been overlooked by White House lawyers... it also was an embarrassment for some in Congress, including Republican senators who co-sponsored the provision, such as John Cornyn of Texas and Ted Stevens of Alaska.
At a minimum, the veto will provoke a fight over an issue that was put into the legislation after no public debate. The Senate sponsor, Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., expressed strong support for the provision Friday, saying it would help U.S. plaintiffs in lawsuits against Iran and Libya...
Unfortunately, Reid and Pelosi, as usual, will not press their advantage.
Kristol's getting ready for a Dem adminstration when leaks from the Times will become magically patriotic...
Heh.
Well, I think the NYT might very well be taking lessons from our Democratic leaders in Washington, DC, who think bipartisanship requires such acrobatics.
That said, I agree with Eli who analysed the situation quite nicely:
The Democrats must remember that the halfway mark between sane and insane is still pretty crazy. Otherwise, the Republicans will get everything they want, simply by always demanding twice as much. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen much evidence that the Democratic leadership realizes that compromising with lunatics is not a winning strategy..
Kristol's getting ready for a Dem adminstration when leaks from the Times will become magically patriotic...
NTodd, Now 80lbs Heavier | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 12:43 pm | #
Exactly. The ratwing has read the writing on the wall for '08, and are gearing up to obstruct and smear whichever Dem is elected.
nyt is the same as any of the other village icons...
“I think it is an open question whether the Times itself should be prosecuted for this totally gratuitous revealing of an ongoing secret classified program that is part of the war on terror.” [Fox News, 7/2/06]
The NYT has a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome.
Current order of candidates Gomez likes in order of how much Gomez likes them:
1. DK.
2. Edwards.
3. Dodd.
4. Richardson.
5. Hillary.
6. Obama.
7. Biden (always last because of the BK bill and Thomas).
Damn, I miss Steve, as well. I wasn't an everyday regular, but the more I got into his writing, the more I came back.
His illness and Jen's updates kept me connected, and then, it was so sad that he died so young, so brilliant, so tenacious, so bold. Along with his great food posts!
Listen up, Harry and Nancy, all you Dem candidates--you would do well to emulate this guy!
And, NYTimes, if you don't get the little, knowable things right, how can I trust you to get the less knowable things close to right? D'uh.
The Democrats must remember that the halfway mark between sane and insane is still pretty crazy.
Somebody should email that to the Obama campaign.
Shorter NYT: "He beats me because he loves me."
One these days they won't be watching and Shrub will veto himself. I think the Secretary of State's office handles the paperwork.
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Being genocidally evil is now just another "point of view" that deserves to be represented in America's paper of record.
This is actually a good thing. Krugman is going to humiliate him on a weekly basis.
it might not be true. all we have is a huffpost report, right?
Krugman is going to humiliate him on a weekly basis.
Krugman's got bigger fish to fry. Kristol does a good enough job humiliating himself (as evidenced by the link).
Being genocidally evil is now just another "point of view" that deserves to be represented in America's paper of record.
driftglass
Not just represented. Championed. Instead of excoriated.
Fuck this shit about BushBoy's "pocket veto": That works only when Congress is not in session. NPR, this morning, in reporting on this went on and on about the "veto," then closed with quoteing a Dem, Pelosi iirc, "claiming" that Congress was still in session based on the Senate's pro forma sessions.
"Claiming," MPR??? Read the freakin' Constitution--look at freakin' history.
Now, this is incredible. Just as the MCM* barely uses the word "filibuster" to describe what the ReThugs do in the Senate when they filibuster or threaten to filibuster (in record setting numbers this term as opposed the mass MCM hysteria when the Dems just talked about filibustering some wretched judicial nominations), now it doesn't seem to recall the earliest lessons on vetoes that every schoolchild remembers, because the term "pocket veto" was kinda cute, ya know? Well, we know--the MCMers don't, seemingly.
Anything the Unitary Executive, aka monarch, says is A-OK with them. So, fuck them with whatever will get to their pea brains.
*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media; MCMers--members of MCM
Not just represented. Championed. Instead of excoriated.
With thugs and bullies in power, what else would you expect?
Now I'm worried - the WSJ linked to an article to Diane's post from this a.m. Wha'd she say wrong?
Diane;s post at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/...is-
made_29.html
Krugman's got bigger fish to fry. Kristol does a good enough job humiliating himself (as evidenced by the link).
Zap Rowsdower
My fantasy is seeing Krugman's first column after Kristol publishes is this:
Kristol: pfft.
Now, about the troops being transferred from Kabul across the border into Iran...
oh, the WSJ article which I cant read 'cause I;m not registered; http://online.wsj.com/article/SB...2:r4:
c0.0733371
Kristol: pfft
Or,
"Shorter Kristol: WAAAAAHHHHH"
That'd suffice.
the grey lady is beginning to look like the clay shit in my gardens
I mean really. Why is there still such a thing as "the press" in this country? At least have the decency to call it something else, fer Chrissakes.
Pantload:
I grew up in crime-ridden, high-tax, drug-addled, blackout-plagued New York City, when every day seemed to bring the place closer to collapse. Getting mugged every now and then was simply the price you paid for walking to school. And yet I look back on my childhood and smile.
So you miss being cornholed by the neighborhood toughs, huh, Pantload?
That's no surprise.
thank you sir, may i have another?
I grew up in crime-ridden, high-tax, drug-addled, blackout-plagued New York City, when every day seemed to bring the place closer to collapse.
So, was he a Shark or a Jet?
What a poseur.
teh Village would make a great movie...the script is already written
I grew up in crime-ridden, high-tax, drug-addled, blackout-plagued New York City
Then move, you fucking rich, lazy asshole!
I grew up in crime-ridden, high-tax, drug-addled, blackout-plagued New York City
Then move, you fucking rich, lazy asshole!
MP | 12.29.07 - 1:06 pm
What a poseur.
Zap Rowsdower
I'll bet his mommy walked him to school and back.
The Senate is in session but the house isn't.
What a poseur.
Zap Rowsdower
I'll bet his mommy walked him to school and back.
Lime Rickey
Till he turned twenty-one, and Lucianne got hired by Hagrid to guard the Philosopher's Stone.
The quad of Gutcher College was brillig, frought with slithy toves.
From Diane's link to the NYTimes article:
It was Mr. Bush’s eighth veto, an executive power he has used with greater frequency with Democrats in control of Congress. Because he used a pocket veto — allowing the legislation to expire 10 days after it was passed by the House — his decision cannot be overridden. Adding to the uncertainty, Brendan Daly, a spokesman for the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, said Friday evening that the House was reserving its right to schedule an override vote anyway, arguing that the president’s pocket veto was not legally viable.
Note the tone of fait accompli in the article. No question of the accuracy of the Unitary Executive's assertion!
Mr. Daly said House officials believed that, under their interpretation of the rules, Mr. Bush technically could not use his power to pocket veto the measure.
Note the lack of certainty about the Dem's statement!
Constitutional scholars--if the Congress accepts BushBoy's premise that he can use the pocket veto even when Congress is in pro forma session, what is to prevent him from making interim appointments during in such a situation?
I mean, isn't Congress in session or not in session? Does the pocket veto have an asterisk, which says, well, when it's pro forma, Congress isn't really in session?
WTF?
And why can't the NYTimes did into this? Instead of the damn hesaid/shesaid crap????
We have a history in this nation of over 200 years, most with the bicameral legislature under the current Constitution. This is freakin' unknowable?????
Huckerbee event Live on C-span - just saw Joe Klein and Ed Rollins.
obama, killin' 'em softly
my title...teh WSJ's is:
Obama Stings with Subtle Jabs
Senate's in session, House of Representatives isn't. Legislation vetoed has to go back to the originating house, which in this case is the lower house. Pelosi should reconvene. But she probably won't.
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. ...
If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
The House could argue that since the Senate is still in session, "The Congress" has not adjourned, so the bill should be law. But to do anything, they need to reconvene. IANAL, but this looks like the Constitutional loophole the would-be king is exploiting.
I mean really. Why is there still such a thing as "the press" in this country? At least have the decency to call it something else, fer Chrissakes.
MP
the DePress?
So, P O'Neill, Bush can do whatever he wants because the House isn't in session? From now on does the House also need to do the pro forma thing?
I realize with BushBoy we're in uncharted Constitutional territory, but...either the Congress is in session or it's not. Can it be half in session?
The pocket veto is of a House bill.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20071228-
5.html
Well, Dad turns 56 today. Better give him a call. Later.
I think there is a serious issue about whether Chimpy deliberately stalled on the veto to avoid an override vote which he might lose. The narrative on this one would not have been good -- why does Chimpy hate POWs, terrorism victims, and soldiers?
The pocket veto doesn't have a list of objections so Bush, as always, is trying to have it both ways.
I think there is a serious issue about whether Chimpy deliberately stalled on the veto to avoid an override vote which he might lose.
You bet there is, but will Congress do anything real rather than rhetorical about it? Probably a good time to write your Congresscritter on the subject.
And if Chimpy really thinks the Senate is not in session, he could directly challenge it with a recess appointment.
There's an absolute meltdown in progress over at Digg. Seems the hordes of Ron Paul fanatics over there can't wrap their heads around his denial of evolution.
Much head exploding, tears and pounding of fists.
Next we will hear that the NY Times has been bought by the Carlyle Group. Or the Reverend Moon. He's been keeping a low profile lately.
Bush could simply veto the bill--instead he has chosen to take a highly irregular approach, which is open to controversy and which, if accepted as precedent, removes the need for actual vetoes
I believe he is trying to establish new powers for the exuctive--and if the Congress accepts this premise he will have succeeded.
But I am not a Constitutional scholar or lawyer. So, help!
there is definitely a few paradoxes going on in here:
New-home sales dropped by 19.3% in the Northeast, 27.6% in the Midwest, and 6.4% in the South. However, sales increased by 4% in the West. Over the last 12 months, new-home sales nationwide have tumbled by 34.4%, the biggest annual slide since early 1991, and stark evidence of the painful collapse of the once high-flying housing market.
The supply of homes for sale rose to 9.3 months' worth from 8.8 (revised from 8.5). Whereas earlier sales and price data had suggested big price cuts by homebuilders were clearing inventory, this pattern has been reversed with the November data and revisions.
Stocks Retreat From Earlier Highs
The median price figures were surprisingly firm, according to Action Economics, rising to $239,100, vs. an upwardly revised $229,500 in October (previously $217,800). Prices are down 0.4% over last year, however.
What is Digg?
there are...jeebus i'm a retard sometimes
Bring back the firewall!
Digg.com
It's a news aggregator/comment site
And why can't the NYTimes did into this? Instead of the damn hesaid/shesaid crap????
We have a history in this nation of over 200 years, most with the bicameral legislature under the current Constitution. This is freakin' unknowable?????
jawbon
charlie savage at the globe will have to sort it out.
fuck bush.
F the House Dems (Rahm thinking overtime again) for not even figuring out how to handle this right.
F the House Dems
you assume they are smart enough? i really don't give them that much credit
And if Chimpy really thinks the Senate is not in session, he could directly challenge it with a recess appointment.
He could try that, but he's playing enough of a game with the "can't return to the originating chamber" bullshit right now. It falls on Pelosi to stand up to this.
It's currently a discussion amongst CodePink and some other orgs right now. Trying to figure out what opportunities this presents us and how to respond...
I sent an email to my winger Congressman criticizing Bush for vetoing the money for our troops. I did my best to sound like a winger.
I grew up in crime-ridden, high-tax, drug-addled, blackout-plagued New York City, when every day seemed to bring the place closer to collapse. Getting mugged every now and then was simply the price you paid for walking to school. And yet I look back on my childhood and smile.
Horseshit. What private school did he walk to?
Hackubee taking calls at CSpan starting ET 2:10. should be fun.
gotta go do things. l8r
What is Digg?
Social bookmarking, as is Reddit, Shoutwire and lots of others. A chance for you to basically give a vote or thumbsup to an article or post, increasing its visibility.
Hackubus!
Bring back the firewall!
lgs
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20071228-
5.html
From Bush's Memorandum of Disapproval, dated 12/28:
The adjournment of the Congress has prevented my return of H.R. 1585 within the meaning of Article I, section 7, clause 2 of the Constitution. Accordingly, my withholding of approval from the bill precludes its becoming law. The Pocket Veto Case, 279 U.S. 655 (1929). In addition to withholding my signature and thereby invoking my constitutional power to "pocket veto" bills during an adjournment of the Congress, I am also sending H.R. 1585 to the Clerk of the House of Representatives, along with this memorandum setting forth my objections, to avoid unnecessary litigation about the non-enactment of the bill that results from my withholding approval and to leave no doubt that the bill is being vetoed.
So, if Nancy got some folks to the House on Monday, this wouldn't count or would count as a veto? Is he double vetoing somehow? And trying to set precedent?
A close aide who prepared Bhutto's body for burial dismissed as "ludicrous" a government theory that she died after hitting her head on a sunroof during the suicide attack.
Sherry Rehman, a spokeswoman for Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party (PPP), said Bhutto was shot in the head. But the government stuck to its version, saying Bhutto's party was welcome to exhume her corpse to check.
umm, is it me or does this story smack of insanity: that in this day and age, we can actually be unsure whether someone was shot or not?
oh and BTW, she was shot in the HEAD, that would be tough if it came from as the gov. says the folks who blew up the car...that smacks of sniper fire
Looking at that financial chart from Yahoo, I'd say Cerberus.
Kristol's hiring denotes putrefaction.
Too bad. Reading the NYT was a daily ritual for my family since the beginning of the last century. My grandparents were born in the 1880s and 90s and read it religiously. A habit their children and grandchildren continued.
Even not counting Christmas Day as a noncountable day in the 10 days (Sundays are exempted), the 10th day is Monday.
You know, I'd been sort of enjoying the NYT editorial page the past few months. No more Safire, no more Tierney, Kristof on sabbatical -- it's been okay. Sure, there's still Friedman and Brooks, but they're both pretty easy to ignore. Ah well, I knew it was too good to last...
Next we will hear that the NY Times has been bought by the Carlyle Group. Or the Reverend Moon. He's been keeping a low profile lately.
harold
Actually, the NY Times and the Carlyle Group have interlocking directorships.
What it comes down to is this: If Petraeus succeeds in Iraq, and a Republican wins in 2008, Bush will be viewed as a successful president.
I like the odds.
This is the same guy who thought the republicans would keep Congress in 06. People would "recoil" from the idea of Speaker Pelosi. Except they didn't. Go floss your teeth, you fool.
Next we will hear that the NY Times has been bought by the Carlyle Group. Or the Reverend Moon. He's been keeping a low profile lately.
harold
Actually, the NY Times and the Carlyle Group have interlocking directorships.
George Johnston |
it's all one incestuous borg clusterfuck: teh american way!
So now Pantload is "Mean Streets" Pantload.
Why in the world was the creepy fat dude down the dorm hall, given a national microphone?
I almost have biscuits and gravy, biotches!
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the creepy fat dude down the dorm hall,
This is the legislation for which the Dems, in accordance with Pelosi/Reid's first 2006 post-election pronouncements, spread their cheeks without emitting so much as a single rhetorical fart of protest against the illegal and ruinous invasion and occupation of Iraq which requires such funding.
And now the ball's back in their court, because they didn't go far enough for our monarch. And despite the claim that our War-Criminal-in-Chief and his party will come off the worse for opening themselves up to the charge of "not supporting the troops", in fact the eventual resolution or "fix" will cement the bipartisan ownership of the Iraq catastrophe.
And the resident despot really isn't all that vulnerable, not only because he's a lame duck, but because the corporate media won't beat him up for allegedly turning on the troops by holding up their funding. It'll be dismissed by the infotainwhore class as acceptable political brinksmanship or the like.
I trust that some nitwit observer-- Joke Line, perhaps-- will laud this process as proof that "the system works". It's like watching a snuff video of the political process in its death throes.
Isn't Kristol Jewish? Coincidence?
My letter to Tom Allen:
Dear Representative Allen,
Once again, George W. Bush has layed down a marker of contempt for the Constitution in pocket vetoing the recently passed military appropriations bill (H.R. 1585). Rather than take the heat for directly vetoing a bill that passed both houses with wide bipartisan support, he is letting the bill fail to become law because the House is not in session.
If there was ever a time to hold this Administration accountable for failing to support the men and women in service to our country by agreeing to fund their service, this is it. I urge you and your colleagues to use whatever parliamentary and constitutional means may be at your disposal to reject this brazen executive course of inaction. Reconvene. Tell the President to stop playing games with the lives and livelihood of our troops. Make the President tell the nation why he refuses to support our military.
Respectfully,
-----
Freeport, Maine
If this world were Intelligently Designed, oatmeal would cause heart disease and things like biscuits and gravy and bacon and eggs would clean out your arteries.
That is all.
dems could always go back to fighting for the stuff the public wanted in the new funding version--like leaving and no bases and no torture.
The Times will be better for it.
The best newspaper SHOULD be a true microcosm, in all of the world's beauty and ugliness. Such diversity of opinion will make it a more provocative read and the greater exposure for Kristol's ideas will lead to more reactive commentary.
That conversation will lead us all closer to the truth.
It's like watching a snuff video of the political process in its death throes.
yeah, it sucks that america would give up it's democracy so easily and so willingly...i am very proud of teh EU, they have done much to advance democracy, WAY fucking more than WE are doing
I am also sending H.R. 1585 to the Clerk of the House of Representatives, along with this memorandum setting forth my objections, to avoid unnecessary litigation about the non-enactment of the bill that results from my withholding approval and to leave no doubt that the bill is being vetoed.
What a fucking coward.
I have figured out what the Times requires from the majority of its columnists. Penises.
Input at Firedoglake on Bush's pocket rocket veto--and what he may actually be doing with it.
http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/2...-pocket-rocket/
A court case did say a signed veto works just fine as long as the Congress has made arrangements to receive signed items from the executive.
Which it clearly has, as BushBoy is sending them a signed Memorandum of Disapproval.
Seems to be much more behind this than a simple veto or pocket veto.
That conversation will lead us all closer to the truth.
Or obscure it even more.
Fear and Loathing at the Kentucky Creation Museum.
Seriously, It's Gonzo/fake-retard journalism, as a bunch of smartasses attend the Grand Opening of the Kentucky Creation Museum and cover the story in true Post PoMo Gonzo frenzy.
There were no survivors!
The best newspaper SHOULD be a true microcosm
So judging from the NY Times microcosm, 90% of Americans are apologists for the Bush junta that steals from Americans and tortures people because of their religious affiliation?
(rolls eyes)
How many Dems have come out and criticised the New York Times for appointing a man who has been wrong about almost everything?
If this was the a major Newspaper which had a reputation for being right wing and they just hired a liberal to write a column the Republicans would be doing everything to get rid of him.
The best newspaper SHOULD be a true microcosm, in all of the world's beauty and ugliness. Such diversity of opinion will make it a more provocative read and the greater exposure for Kristol's ideas will lead to more reactive commentary.
do we need 50/50 beauty and ugliness? i think ugliness in moderation...mostly beauty (IOW, every once in a while, publish a spitting-fascist, but mostly print more positive and human-interest, not just ECONOMIC interest stories, that move humanity forward instead of sitting in idle, acting materialistic, forever)
I have figured out what the Times requires from the majority of its columnists. Penises.
Echidne
Then how do you explain Kristol?
umm, is it me or does this story smack of insanity: that in this day and age, we can actually be unsure whether someone was shot or not?
I don't think her supporters are interested in the gunshot or fractured skull theories. They seem to have some strong opinions of who, where, why and what to do next.
"We Sindhis do not want Pakistan anymore. Why is it only Sindhi prime ministers are assassinated or killed?" said Rehmatullah, 25, who goes by one name, referring to the demise of the Bhuttos and country's first prime minister, Liaquat Ali Khan, who was shot to death in 1951. All three died in Rawalpindi, where Pakistan's army has its headquarters.
"Now we will bring revolution," Rehmatullah said.
Yeah, Condi, you call for that election. For all the good it'll do.
Didn't Nixon once argue in favor of appointing a crony to the USSC by arguing that the mediocre of this country deserve to represented?
It's Gonzo/fake-retard journalism, as a bunch of smartasses attend the Grand Opening of the Kentucky Creation Museum and cover the story in true Post PoMo Gonzo frenzy.
mmmm, po-po-mo....delicious
"We Sindhis do not want Pakistan anymore. Why is it only Sindhi prime ministers are assassinated or killed?"
Coincidentally, leading opponents of Richard Nixon would sooner or later get shot.
Isn't Kristol Jewish? Coincidence?
shytefowl
Jewish Intellectuals start all the wars!
Watching Huckleberry on C-Span is scary and puzzling.
Born again school superintendent loves how he treats the 7YO boys (?.)
Does no one know of his son's escapades?
I have figured out what the Times requires from the majority of its columnists. Penises.
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Not only that, one must be emasculated prior to entry. I expect they have a locker full of embalmed ones in the basement somewhere.
That conversation will lead us all closer to the truth.
Indeed, providing more channels for lies to escape always leads to the truth in the end.
Yes, remember the New York Times is never allowed to hire a Republican.
Ever.
NTodd, I missed the part where you gained 80 pounds...how did that happen?
NTodd, I missed the part where you gained 80 pounds...how did that happen?
It's all dog weight, thanks to Rin Tin.
An imperious FReeper speaks:
We will agree to disagree. Most of us with skills and education are doing better than we ever have in our lives. Foreign investment has been boon to this country. Remember that it is foreigners who provide us with all of our savings as we spend and spend.
As for the proletariat, they have, for the most part, always had it tough, with the exception of a brief 25 year period (late 40s until the early 70s) when Europe had yet to recover and Asia was not a factor, leading to a high demand (and higher wages) for those without skills. Adopting an old school Latin American style "import substitution" (ie protectionism) will do nothing to change that.
Besides, many of us don't want to go back to the old days of row houses and high taxes/prices just so we can have a thriving unskilled/semiskilled economy.
Remember, the working class is easily replaceable, the innovative and entrepreneurial class is not.
Who ya gonna call when the water in your castle's moat stagnates and starts breeding killer mansquitos?
Why do liberals in the mainstream just want to be loved by the right?
If it is not The New York Times it is Joe Lieberman. If it is not Joe Klein it is Obama or some othe idiot Dem who wants the right wing to love him.
The right hates your guts , and always will people.
leading to a high demand (and higher wages) for those without skills.
Try building an automobile. Jesus Christ. Critical thinking skills are apparently unneeded in well-compensated freeperland.
"we can wear the Mussolini footie pajamas"-David Brooks to Bill Kristol
What a fine birthday gift to get today!
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Remember, the working class is easily replaceable, the innovative and entrepreneurial class is not.
`Man,' said the Ghost, `if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die. It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man's child. Oh God. to hear the Insect on the leaf pronouncing on the too much life among his hungry brothers in the dust.'
evening moonbats
are the"Patriots" and Peknn st. playing at the same time today?
penn st. even
Benazir Bhutto: Not the death of a Tyrant, but nothing much to cry about.
Criminy - I read that Lambert post from earlier today. Very nicely done summary of the Great Neocon Swindle IMO.
nap time...ty for the answers...
Sadly, the lobby bar at the Palmer Hilton in Chicago thinks that it is okay to serve Guinness is glasses that are not by any means pints...
as i said earlier, im done with NYT. they just lost this subscription.
Yes, remember the New York Times is never allowed to hire a Republican.
Yes, only Democrats. Like William Safire. And David Brooks. And John Tierney.
You moron...
Does the NYT have a death wish?
WTF is wrong with them?
Does the NYT have a death wish?
WTF is wrong with them?
angryspittle
Murdoch's taking over the WSJ has 'em nervous, maybe.
So if Kristol writes on days Krugman doesn't, maybe I should just cancel for that day of the week until he's gone.
There is only so much need for birdcage liner, after all.
The Week in Denialism.
You'll laugh, you'll cry!
Speaking of the WSJ, whose bright idea was to include it in the same plastic sleeve as my Sat NYTimes for the last few weeks...
You'll laugh, you'll cry!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 2:22 pm | #
No, I won't.
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Why do liberals in the mainstream just want to be loved by the right?
If it is not The New York Times it is Joe Lieberman. If it is not Joe Klein it is Obama or some othe idiot Dem who wants the right wing to love him.
Getting along is always preferable. Making nice is always the best thing. We should try to understand and validate other people's bullshit so as not to upset them.
I swear to god, if I get told to coddle one more moronic asshole anytime soon ... I mean, who exactly does it serve if I don't call people's bullshit what it is?
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Well, maybe Bill Kristol can go on lengthy overseas visits to see the grand workings of capitalism play out in the brothels of teenagers in Thailand. Or the arms bazaars in Mogudishu.
After all, Kristof and Friedman have learned so very, very much on their sojourns. (Actually, Kristof seems genuinely concerned with the people he meets - Tommy just looks for anecdotes that match his preconceptions.)
No, I won't.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 2:24 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I say you will. And I've pounded you in the ass often enough to know.
I finally picked up that Benjamin "Archive" book, by the way. It's a must-have for the photographs alone.
I swear to god, if I get told to coddle one more moronic asshole anytime soon ... I mean, who exactly does it serve if I don't call people's bullshit what it is?
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Athenae | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 2:28 pm | #
Coddle me!
I can't believe they killed Bhutros Bhutros-Ghali.
Fuckers.
I finally picked up that Benjamin "Archive" book, by the way. It's a must-have for the photographs alone.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage 12.29.07 - 2:29 pm | #
Good! I want!
I can't believe they killed Bhutros Bhutros-Ghali.
Fuckers.
wÒÓ†
And she just got botoxed!
Good! I want!
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 2:30 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
My copy was actually defective, so I wasn't able to do more than browse it...I'm waiting for a replacement copy.
But what I saw is pretty staggering. They really outdid themselves.
Shorter NY Times: One can never have too many apologists for the failed, lame-duck Bush regime.
My copy was actually defective, so I wasn't able to do more than browse it...I'm waiting for a replacement copy.
But what I saw is pretty staggering. They really outdid themselves.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 2:33 pm | #
I am green with all the envy and such.
I am green with all the envy and such.
After reading Phila's post, I must agree that it's not at all easy to be green.
I swear to god, if I get told to coddle one more moronic asshole anytime soon
You would not like to dip one in boiling water for a short while till their insides are slightly cooked?
The New York Times has stockholm syndrome
That conversation will lead us all closer to the truth.
Franken Blunt
The view of the 35% must always be more prominate then the view of the 65%.
I'm serious. I got a response to a colum recently that was like, "Okay, so the people you wrote about were racist, cowardly fuckheads, but how are they ever going to get over that if you keep yelling at them about it? You should be nicer or you're just as bad as them!"
To which I can only say, go the fuck back to fucking Unity '08 or wherever where you belong.
Unity '08 which took me off their mailing list, btw, after I replied to one of their e-mails with, "Are you guys fucking serious? I thought this was a joke Atrios made up."
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Unity '08 which took me off their mailing list, btw, after I replied to one of their e-mails with, "Are you guys fucking serious? I thought this was a joke Atrios made up."
I adore you.
I wouldn't put Obama and Joe Klein in the same category.
am green with all the envy and such.
rorschach, meh | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 2:35 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
It's only 18 bucks on Amazon...marked down from almost 30, I believe...
To which I can only say, go the fuck back to fucking Unity '08 or wherever where you belong.
Or the Obama campaign. All those Fox News watchers are just waiting for us to hold out a friendly hand.
And then we'll put on a show in my dad's barn!
HOUSTON — A day after a federal court slip-up exposed intimate office e-mail exchanges with his executive secretary, Texas’ most powerful prosecutor, the district attorney of Harris County, issued a public apology Friday to his family and others.
“I deeply regret having said those things,” the prosecutor, Charles A. Rosenthal Jr., said in a statement. “This event has served as a wake-up call to me to get my house in order both literally and figuratively.”
Mr. Rosenthal’s current marriage is his second. His wife, Cindy, is a retired agent for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
The issue took on immediate political dimensions on Thursday when Mr. Rosenthal, a 61-year-old Republican who has announced he will run for a third term next year, attacked the disclosure of the messages as “bare-knuckle politics.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/2...r=1&
oref=slogin
Poor thing - a lecherous Republican hiding in the 'family values' party, my my.
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It's only 18 bucks on Amazon...marked down from almost 30, I believe...
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.29.07 - 2:39 pm | #
teh cool.
Although I've got a Benjamin complex now; M ridicules every translation I get hold of, so... what to do?
Tommy just looks for anecdotes that match his preconceptions.
Anecdotes from nonexistent cab drivers.
Culture of Truth, fair point.
However, every time he talks about conciliation and working together, I just want to scream. Can we be all nice and shit AFTER WE WIN AND HIT THEM WITH CHAIRS AND BEAT THEM WITH FISH?
Which is probably why I'm not a presidential front-runner right now. Among many other reasons.
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SHEETS
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Athenae -
My only hope is that Obama is crafting his approach from the GWB playbook - giving verbal deference to governing from the center, but after cameras and microphones are turned off, steering toward the pole.
Thing is, W (and other wingers since Reagan in Philadelphia, MS) always give coded messages to the base - messages that fly under the radar of the MSM. Can anyone point to such code existing in any Obama script?
From a comment by Phoenix Woman at emptywheel (#25)--
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.co...raises/
#Respond
Wright v. United States (193
explicitly states that if ONE house is in session, Congress is NOT, repeat, NOT in recess for the purposes of pocket veto:
The first question is whether ‘the Congress by their adjournment’ prevented the return of the bill by the President within the period of ten days allowed for that purpose.
‘The Congress’ did not adjourn. The Senate alone was in recess. The Constitution creates and defines ‘the Congress.’ It consists ‘of a Senate and House of Representatives.’ Article 1, 1. The Senate is not ‘the Congress.’
The context of the clause itself points the distinction. It speaks of the ‘House of Representatives’ and of the ‘Senate,’ respectively. It speaks of the return of the bill, if the President does not approve it, ‘to that House in which it shall have originated’; of reconsideration by ‘that House,’ and, in case two thirds of ‘that House’ agree to pass the bill, of sending it together with the President’s objections to the ‘other House’ and, if approved by two thirds of ‘that House,’ the bill is to become a law. Provision is made for the taking of the votes of ‘both Houses’ and for the recording of the names of those voting for and against the bill on the Journal ‘of each House respectively.’
Then, after this precise use of terms and careful differentiation, the concluding clause describes not an adjournment of either House as a separate body, or an adjournment of the House in which the bill shall have originated, but the adjournment of ‘the Congress.’ It cannot be supposed that the framers of the Constitution did not use this expression with deliberation or failed to appre- [302 U.S. 583, 588] ciate its plain significance. The reference to the Congress is manifestly to the entire legislative body consisting of both Houses. Nowhere in the Constitution are the words ‘the Congress’ used to describe a single House.
Seems to be settled law, but BushBoy has chosen to make an issue of it. Can't be just for this veto--this could be corrected in a bill, or, as others have pointed out, it already is not legal to sue the new Iraqi government. I think the Maladministration is contemplating more nefarious ends.
Isn't it fun to live in the former Soviet Union?
BushCo Bizarro World:
Memorandum of Disapproval = Nonsigning Statement.
Note that BushBoy goes back to a 1929 Supreme Court case--Phoenix Woman cites a 1938 case.
Usually the later case takes precedence.
WTF is BushCo up to? Paging David Addington....
You gotta love the whole left-wing outrage. As Jamie Kerchik noted recently:
Today, no other political label gets thrown around as frequently, or with as much reckless abandon, as “neocon.” The most popular liberal blogs name and shame neocons, real or imagined, on a daily basis. The term is used in a fashion similar to the way “communist” was during the 1950s—an all-encompassing indictment—this time indicating an imperialistic and “warmongering,” even an “insane,” worldview. The anti-neocon fervor has reached truly McCarthyite proportions: just a few months ago, Steve Clemons of the left-wing New America Foundation argued in favor of “Purging the Neocons from the American Soul.”
this time indicating an imperialistic and “warmongering,” even an “insane,” worldview.
Yup, that's pretty much what it means.
How was your nap, Mr Van Winkle?
What I want to know is who paid for someone to take Bill Kristol's exams for him at Harvard so he could pass them?
And what grad student ghostwrote his mother, Gertrude Himmelfarb's book about crime in the Victorian era. When she went on WNYC to publicize it, it was all talking points -- she was unable to answer a single question from the audience about her supposed era of expertise?
Also I notice Lee Siegel, Mr. Sprezzatura himself, who boasted manfully of having avoided raping Uma Thurman when she was 16, was picked to review Peter Gay's book on the modern era in the NYT Book Review. The morphing of the NYT into Commentary is virtually complete. Now they just need to hire that Irish pedophile from the National Review (and maybe Jeff Gannon).
Lee Siegel, distinguished book reviewer for the heck-of-a-job Sunday NY Times:
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/
o...prezzatura.html
maybe even the NYT realizes it needs to counter the left-wing mush-heads infecting its Op-Ed and news pages..
I've already sent my letter of protest to the Times. It would be nice if they got a few hundred thousand similar letters.
Tweet tweet tweet. Listen to the Mocking Bird. Listen to the Mocking Bird. RIP NYT. Such as it was.
Liberals dominate the media....this has been announced by Rush Limbaugh. And Thomas Sowell. And Ann Coulter. And Rich Lowry. Bill O'Reilly. And Robert Novak. And George Will.
And John Gibson. And Michelle Malkin. And David Brooks. And Tony Snow. And Tony Blankely. And Fred Barnes. And Britt Hume. And Larry Kudlow. And Sean Hannity. And David Horowitz. And William Kristol. And Hugh Hewitt. And William Buckley.
And Oliver North. And Joe Scarborough. And Pat Buchanan. And John McLaughlin. And Cal Thomas. And Joe Klein. And James Kilpatrick. And Tucker Carlson. And Deroy Murdock. And Michael Savage. And Charles Krauthammer. And Stephen Moore. And Alan Keyes.
And Gary Bauer. And Mort Kondracke. And Andrew Sullivan. And Nicholas von Hoffman. And Neil Cavuto. And Matt Drudge. And Mike Rosen. And Dave Kopel. And John Caldara. And Deborah Howell. And Richard Morin. And John Harris. And Gordon Liddy. And laura Ingraham.
And Larry Elder. And Tammy Bruce. And Neal Boortz. And FOX DJ ManPal. And Rusty Humphrey. And Laura Schlessinger.
So what if the Administration had to pay Armstrong Williams and Maggie Gallagher to run their script.
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