I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Peace.
no snark
upstairs - ahhhh, breathe the free air...
where is mer?
Big Jim and the Twins
dear shared humanity: (if still here) noticing a post of yours from a few days ago regarding your affinity for bourbon, i wanted to share that i have a pickup load of jim beam bourbon decanters (don't ask) from back in the 70's. aged 100 months in oak barrels prior to bottling.
smoothest whiskey on the fucking planet if you ask me, but i feel like an alchy when i break into 'em. which is often.
do i have a drinking problem or is that shit just that goddamn good?
i could send you one if you would need to research this matter more before giving an opinion.
I hear the Baghdad is so safe that Allstate and Geico are offering insurance policies for Humvees.
the AE1 is a great camera. take it to a professional photo repair shop. probably just need old seals replaced.
charley | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 9:38 pm
This is what my brother-in-law says. I'll do so eventually.
Buckeye, my father used to take amazing shots with an old Brownie camera. Here's an example,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/924...@N05/611926561/
Karin | 10.27.07 - 9:36 pm |
My dad took some great pics with the Voigtlander. My sister has finally transferred the remaining slides to cd, and sent both the cd sets and the slides (so I can figure out what's what). The Voigtlander problems are user error.
I wonder if lovepat thinks we all left because of her/him?
The japs didn't have baseball before nagasaki.
Snarky, yet surprisingly low in saturated fats.
do i have a drinking problem or is that shit just that goddamn good?
yes.
mmmmm, bourbon - the brownest of the dark liquors...
/Lionel Hutz
Other people's cats for Caturday:
http://travel.webshots.com/
photo...096501088ilVier
During an Army field exercise in the seventies, while under strict radio silence, I keyed the mike on Battalion net and said "We could say we're smokin' refer on this radio, when we're really eatin' cookies and you'd never know!"
We all got remedial classes.
But I got a laugh.
Thanks, National Lampoon Radio Hour!
Pitch perfect.
i could send you one if you would need to research this matter more before giving an opinion.
fokowi
send me two.
Jim Beam is pretty good booze for the price.
Absurdity deserves to be met with scorn.
Here's the other "E" in Reefer...
Rumpleminze.... Etc.
Tokyo is 4 times larger than New York city.
fokowi
As an afficianado of bourbon, I would gladly pay for the gas if you would be willing to drive said pickup to Wisconsin...
Tokyo is 4 times larger than New York city.
rogue
yeah, but no big radioactive lizards terrorize NYC. now that Rudy's gone, that is...
Tokyo is 4 times larger than New York city.
rogue |
Big, dirty, and very little fun.
However, the giant Col. Sanders statue in front of the KFC downtown has slanted eyes......
but no big radioactive lizards terrorize NYC. now that Rudy's gone, that is...
You obviously never saw the Godzilla remake.
Lucky you.
but no big radioactive lizards
Saw a comic way back that did a bit on Japanese Monster Insurance.
"Yes, madam, your husband was crushed by Rodan. But you were only covered for Godzilla and Mothra....."
SCIENTISTS DISCOVER WORLD'S HOTTEST CHILI PEPPER
JR, i feel your pain. but the portra films are pretty good.
there will always be Tri-X. right?
as far as the story goes, i don't see any problems as long as there are no fake photoshoped smoke rings.
Karin, doesn't that Voigtlander take 620 film? a size not readily available any longer.
Rudy got rid of the lizard pee smell too.
You obviously never saw the Godzilla remake.
Lucky you.
Toonscribe
True, but we're all witnessing the Rudy remake and that's one I'd rather not see either...
Not that Atrios will ever blog about it:
A United Nations expert has condemned the growing use of crops to produce biofuels as a replacement for petrol as a crime against humanity.
The UN special rapporteur on the right to food, Jean Ziegler, said he feared biofuels would bring more hunger.
The growth in the production of biofuels has helped to push the price of some crops to record levels.
Karin, doesn't that Voigtlander take 620 film? a size not readily available any longer.
Not my camera charley...I think maybe Buckeye State's?
I thought Jon Swift's take on l'affair Beauchamp was all but perfect.
so.
there will always be Tri-X. right?
There never wsas any reason to use Kodak for B&W. God made Ilford for that purpose.
The last product that Kodak had that I liked was the Ektar 25. They discontinued it.
Shorter John Cole: I will do everything I can to distract from the obvious fact that liberals make shit up to bolster their weak arguments.
Can I just say, it's awesome to have John Cole on our side these days (though I'm sure he would hate to see me put it that way). The guy is hysterical and no-one eviscerates the right these days like he does - nobody. It's a joy.
BRIYNEY SPEARS' NEW ALBUM GETTING RAVE REVIEWS.
I'm not kidding.
Forget the cineplex, this one is projecting in IMAX.
The growth in the production of biofuels has helped to push the price of some crops to record levels
This is a major issue here in the midwest. Corn prices have jumped sigificantly which has raised the prices of animal feed, corn oil, corn syrup, etc., all which impacts food prices.
is JeffCO still here?
sorry about the score, dude.
liberals make shit up to bolster their weak arguments.
For instance?
For instance?
MP
Oh, it's even better than that. John Cole is a conservative.
Haven't Hillary and Obama both gotten on the Social Security train? I don't see why not. It was such a popular issue for Bush cementing his popularity for all time.
This is a major issue here in the midwest. Corn prices have jumped sigificantly which has raised the prices of animal feed, corn oil, corn syrup, etc., all which impacts food prices.
We'd be far better off with conservation. As far as corn goes, biofuel is a boondoggle.
The growth in the production of biofuels has helped to push the price of some crops to record levels.
Hecate,
Sweet soda seems to be cheap. I'd read that today,
Feed stock for food animals has doubled, transport costs have almost doubled, as the guy with 2 cats would say HICA
Karin, doesn't that Voigtlander take 620 film? a size not readily available any longer.
charley | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 10:08 p
I'm the one with the Voigtlander.
It's a 35mm, so any 35mm film will do.
Did you say you wanted some HOT pepper?
In tests that yield Scoville heat units (SHUs), the Bhut Jolokia reached 1 million SHUs, almost double the SHUs of former hotshot Red Savina (a type of habanero pepper),
http://news.yahoo.com/s/
livescie...rshattersrecord
Jim Beam is pretty good booze for the price.
1Watt, Hermit
this what i thought.
but don't do it after a bottle of Makers Mark. SOUR.
Wow, these BoSox fans are serious about their game.
all which impacts food prices.
But has no impact on core inflation so it doesn't really cost us more it only feels like it costs more...
but don't do it after a bottle of Makers Mark. SOUR.
charley
hell, I have a two shot limit of Makers.
That is a powerful article. I hadn't realized it was Beauchamp's unit.
This is a major issue here in the midwest. Corn prices have jumped sigificantly which has raised the prices of animal feed, corn oil, corn syrup, etc., all which impacts food prices.
FeralLiberal
Really? I hadn't noticed. I mean, things really could not be increasing in price: the government tells me that they are not, right George Johnston?
(I mean $12.00 a pound for a steak is cheap, right?)
I'm the one with the Voigtlander.
It's a 35mm, so any 35mm film will do.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
well there you go. i have one, it's old. takes 620. you can do a modification so that it will work with 120. but hardly seems worth the effort as i have a hasellblad and a sinar.
truth is i just yank out the digital and take pictures of my feet anymore. photography is hard work.
This is a major issue here in the midwest. Corn prices have jumped sigificantly which has raised the prices of animal feed, corn oil, corn syrup, etc., all which impacts food prices.
We'd be far better off with conservation. As far as corn goes, biofuel is a boondoggle.
Richard
Without the subsidies, I doubt that there would be any significant amount of ethanol produced from corn. Unfortunately, corn is grown in a lot of states so a lot of congresscritters are going to defend those subsidies. At this point the ethanol boondoggle is going to be very, very difficult to get rid of.
all which impacts food prices.
But has no impact on core inflation so it doesn't really cost us more it only feels like it costs more...
Is this why a dozen eggs cost .65 last year and cost 1.65 now?
I've got some quality snark too. Click Homepage.
Is this why a dozen eggs cost .65 last year and cost 1.65 now?
1Watt, Hermit
Yes.
Watertiger, are you in Bahstan?
I mean $12.00 a pound for a steak is cheap, right?
Beats me. I don't think I've bought a steak in 8 years. 
Go SOX!
(twirls underwear)
Watertiger, are you in Bahstan?
Go SAWX!
Unfortunately, corn is grown in a lot of states so a lot of congresscritters are going to defend those subsidies
Even the smaller farmers are looking at gains in income, and the agribusiness are positively salivating at their prospects. Yeah, it's gonna be hard to get a dose of reality here...
don't forget 39 states are facing a water shortage, biofuels suck tens of thousands of gallons of water every day.
John Cole is a major Steelers fan. I liked him even when he was a Bush apologist because of his wit and the fact that he was less doctrinaire and more fairminded than most conservative bloggers. Also, he had good bloglist for the left and the right. The Schaivo case was the last straw for him, by the way.
OUT: "Don't tase me, bro!"
IN: “Eat it, lick it, snort it, fuck it!”
Is this why a dozen eggs cost .65 last year and cost 1.65 now?
1Watt, Hermit
But you can use the tax cuts Bush gave to billionaires to put food on your family.
It's a 35mm, so any 35mm film will do.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
well there you go. i have one, it's old. takes 620. you can do a modification so that it will work with 120. but hardly seems worth the effort as i have a hasellblad and a sinar.
truth is i just yank out the digital and take pictures of my feet anymore. photography is hard work.
charley | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 10:22 pm
My brother-in-law may have picked one of those up on ebay, he's become a fan of Voigtlanders. Dad wanted a good but not too expensive 35mm before heading off to Morocco for a year. Say it's pretty good investment.
Just looking through some of the older slides-they're from my sister's wedding back in Feb 1985. These I will not be making public. How did we think these outfits were fashionable!?
There never wsas any reason to use Kodak for B&W. God made Ilford for that purpose.
YYYYYYYYYYaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
you are crazy.
i like fuji for color,consistent. and ilford for b+w paper, also cibachromes, (hard to come by any more.)
i just never really shot the ilford much. what ever gets the job done.
"I hate this road" cannot be said in the Army. It is a senseless sentence fragment, just an unformed thought. I have been a private, a sergeant and a lieutenant and I know. "I fuckin' hate this fuckin' road" would make more sense, as a starter, to work with.
decorum man
"I fuckin' hate this fuckin' road"
too true.
"There's motherfuckin SNAKES on this motherfuckin ROAD!"
'night bats.
"I hate this road" cannot be said in the Army. It is a senseless sentence fragment, just an unformed thought. I have been a private, a sergeant and a lieutenant and I know. "I fuckin' hate this fuckin' road" would make more sense, as a starter, to work with.
tracy |
When we got orders home from S.Korea we were given extensive briefings about our return to The World...
One piece of advice-- "when you have dinner with your parents, and you ask them to pass the salt, it is not neccesary to describe it."
I love my digital camera. One of the nice aspects of owning one is the ability to take pictures with absolute impunity. When I come across something photo worthy, I take of lot shots to make sure I capture the moment as best as possible, something not so convenient to do with film.
like fuji for color,consistent. and ilford for b+w paper, also cibachromes, (hard to come by any more.)
i just never really shot the ilford much. what ever gets the job done.
charley
For colour I use Fuji or Agfa. No problems getting Ilford/Ciba, or Agfa up here.
Of course, at various points I've been buying my film by the 100 ft rolls for bulk loading. Especially VPS.
I forgot, Bo referenced this song the other day and I placed it on my web site for anyone interested: It is still there if anyone is interested in hastening their trip to hell. (It is Judy Henske doing the Salvation Army Song - Throw a nickel on the drum, save another drunken bum.)
http://home.comcast.net/
~veritas...lvationarmy.mp3
I take of lot shots to make sure I capture the moment as best as possible, something not so convenient to do with film.
Pussy.
I love my digital camera.
I take more pictures with my phone than with any of my cameras nowadays...
Night Buckeye,
Pleasant dreams of a better world and kinder people.
Fred Flinstone had a tiny bird in his camera, who would chisel the picture really rapidly into a piece of rock.
heres ny1 coverage of the march
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h?
v=6FwOtvmwoO0
"There's motherfuckin SNAKES on this motherfuckin ROAD!"
The Kenosha Kid
no problem Bro.
When I was in Nam I was a fuel king (took care of the 6 fuel tanks for the swift boat station) There was an 8 ft. cane viper that lived between the tanks & the path I had to walk to to transfer fuel. All I had to do was make enough noise (whistle) to make it raise it's self above the shrubs so that I knew where it was. We got along fine.
Pussy.
Ansel Adams
don't forget 39 states are facing a water shortage, biofuels suck tens of thousands of gallons of water every day.
1Watt, Hermit
Most corn is not irrigated.
Rock Chalk Chickenhawk...
From Kyle Field in College Station, it's a final
KU 19
Texas A&M 11
Can you Aggies are a bunch of losers?
I take of lot shots to make sure I capture the moment as best as possible, something not so convenient to do with film.
Richard
One of the things that supposedly seperates humans from animals is our ability to think.
Yet we prize action without thinking.
(That is the best way to miss the best shot)
don't forget 39 states are facing a water shortage,
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's 36.
Pussy.
Ansel Adams
you and your fucking mules.
don't forget 39 states are facing a water shortage
Lotta schmucks in Georgia who paid top dollar for waterfront property last year.
Tumbleweeds are rolling past their boats.
Mrs. U is a very good amateur nature photographer, of the "one good shot" school. I'm a not-so-good nature photographer of the "digital is cheap so take lots" school.
Her stuff is better than mine every time.
Well, dunno about them other places but we got lots of water here. And while the lake is down, it is still mighty big. (But you have to move here if you want some)
Pussy.
Ansel Adams
you and your fucking mules.
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 10:45 pm
How much "photoshopping" did Ansel do in the darkroom on every print? Reading his books was an eyeopener.
Fred Flinstone had a tiny bird in his camera, who would chisel the picture really rapidly into a piece of rock.
MP
Which proves that the Flintstones WAS a Documentary.
heres ny1 coverage of the march
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h? v=6FwOtvmwoO0
n69n |
Marches #3 story on MSN homepage.....
Yet we prize action without thinking.
Of course, I never bother to think about what I'm shooting. How insightful you are.
Yet we prize action without thinking.
A micron harsh, maybe.
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's 36.
Richard |
Weeelll excuse me.
I take of lot shots to make sure I capture the moment as best as possible, something not so convenient to do with film.
Richard
One of the things that supposedly seperates humans from animals is our ability to think.
Yet we prize action without thinking.
(That is the best way to miss the best shot)
JR, not currently banned | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 10:43 pm
I did this in Chicago, though some of this was my mental hangup of not wanting to stand in the middle of the sidewalk/street and get in people's way.
I look at them and think 'I could have done with a different angle'.
OTOH, I didn't have to spend all that time changing film.
Of course, at various points I've been buying my film by the 100 ft rolls for bulk loading. Especially VPS.
JR, not currently banned
ah, so you can still get the VPS. i shot this all thru college. good film.
best film i ever shot was kodak 64X. a little poppy (saturated) but i liked it.
one of the problems with kodak is they were always experimenting, making new stuff then discontinuing it. it's ironic that film technology was at it's zenith when digital came along.
Richard, i agree with you. but film does not allow that leisure. ultimately, digital has lowered the bar. good, bad? it's almost a whole new ball game.
How much "photoshopping" did Ansel do in the darkroom on every print? Reading his books was an eyeopener.
Tom
That's not 'shopping. I don't have a problem with digital manipulation that does the same thing, either, BTW.
Photography is about manipulating light. Printing is part of the process.
ah, so you can still get the VPS. i shot this all thru college. good film.
No, the fuckers discontinued it. That was a number of years ago.
Plenty O' water here. Rained all day.
Gotta big ole batch O' marinara sauce cookin' on the stove, OU beat BGSU and my feet don't stink nowhere near as bad as they did this mornin'.
Life is good.
best film i ever shot was kodak 64X. a little poppy (saturated) but i liked it.
one of the problems with kodak is they were always experimenting, making new stuff then discontinuing it. it's ironic that film technology was at it's zenith when digital came along.
Richard, i agree with you. but film does not allow that leisure. ultimately, digital has lowered the bar. good, bad? it's almost a whole new ball game.
charley | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 10:48 pm
64x a 35mm film? It sounds familiar.
11 cities in the world are larger than New York. Name all of them.
ansel adams was a horrible photographer.
that son of a bitch sure could print tho.
seriously, when i moved to new mexico i saw a lot of work of his caliber.
it's a fuck'n mountain with beautiful skies. point, shoot, success.
i'm exagerating, he added a lot to the genre. i'm just saying, he was no ed weston.
If you are receiving a fat salary to acquire top notch photos, being anal about the equipment and the process is paying for your house.
Otherwise, it's just being anal.
How much "photoshopping" did Ansel do in the darkroom on every print?
Ansel Addams once got me a bunch of money.
I was meeting w/ an Insurance adjuster
(somebody hit my car) and I noticed
Ansel Adams prints on his wall. Talk went from those to hiking, places we had been, and the fact that this guy was employed watching for Japanese incindary balloons during WW II, and had pretty much walked every high ridge in Washington State.
He evaluated my POS '70s Vista Cruiser
as a "Classic Show Car". I got 2 grand and got to keep the car...
Digital cameras are a luxury of the rich.
I'm thinking pork chops & eggs.
ansel adams was a horrible photographer.
That's why no one talks about me, ever.
Ok, really going to bed now.
Enjoy Technicolor dreams.
Homemade Italian Sausage, pasta, marinara sauce and garlic bread for me.
maybe some hashbrowns
it's a fuck'n mountain with beautiful skies. point, shoot, success.
i'm exagerating, he added a lot to the genre. i'm just saying, he was no ed weston.
charley
Sure charley.
What camera do you use? A-S? Inka? Linhoff? Toho?
NTodd has just left the building.
10 minutes to Chris Hitchens' waxy balls!
NTodd has just left the building.
His pants, however, are still here.
You know, Stan Rogers really made some nice music. (A commercial I guess)
My Dinner With Andre is on Ovation TV.
I'd like to photograph Ntodd's ass.
Half Dome redeaux.
All I had to do was make enough noise (whistle) to make it raise it's self above the shrubs so that I knew where it was. We got along fine.
1Watt, Hermit
of course you did, it taught you to whistle ...
How about we just dig up that fine ole democrat Jeff Davis and win the South back. Zombie Nascar and barbequed brains.
Otherwise, it's just being anal.
MP
That depends on what you mean by "process". Most of what makes a photograph good happens before you touch the shutter release.
64x a 35mm film? It sounds familiar.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
yes, E6, a slide film. i think they discontinued it shortly after. i could be wrong.
i can't remember all words "please don't take my kodachrome away..." also one of the best films ever made.
My Dinner With Andre is on Ovation TV.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
The waiter has timing long no waiter I have ever seen. He waits until the end of Andre's stories to wait on them.
The first affordable digital cameras only came out a few years ago.
That depends on what you mean by "process". Most of what makes a photograph good happens before you touch the shutter release.
JR, not currently banned
Good composition is definitely something you acquire over time. Sometimes though, even a rookie will get lucky with a cool shot.
George Johnston | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 11:03 pm | #
That's a fine waiter....
He leaves things flow. I hate when they try and rush you out...
One piece of advice-- "when you have dinner with your parents, and you ask them to pass the salt, it is not neccesary to describe it."
Flint,Employed | 10.27.07 - 10:36 pm
Too fuckin' funny.
How about we just dig up that fine ole democrat Jeff Davis and win the South back. Zombie Nascar and barbequed brains.
I'm just about finished with Shelby Foote's narrative of the Civil War. Don't ruin the ending for me, OK?
My Dinner With Andre is on Ovation TV.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
My dinner with watertiger is on the floor.
The pixel count alone is commonly presumed to indicate the resolution of a camera, but this is a misconception. There are several other factors that impact a sensor's resolution. Some of these factors include sensor size, lens quality, and the organization of the pixels (for example, a monochrome camera without a Bayer filter mosaic has a higher resolution than a typical color camera). Many digital compact cameras are criticized for having too many pixels, in that the sensors can be so small that the resolution of the sensor is greater than the lens could possibly deliver.
Yet we prize action without thinking.
I know I post without thinking...
Excessive pixels can even lead to a decrease in image quality. As each pixel sensor gets smaller it is catching fewer photons, and so the signal-to-noise ratio will decrease. This decrease leads to noisy pictures, poor shadow region quality and generally poorer-quality pictures.
I'm not a photog, but even before digitals, I got the idea that there is no substitute for quality glass.
My dinner with watertiger is on the floor.
[sprawled out on the floor, watching the game]
sorry, i think he sucked.
his contribution was the zone system and figuring out how to develop and make the film/print match the light.
a not inconsiderable contribution. but as an artist, he sucked.
As the technology has improved, costs have decreased dramatically. Measuring the "pixels per dollar" as a basic measure of value for a digital camera, there has been a continuous and steady increase in the number of pixels each dollar buys in a new camera consistent with the principles of Moore's Law. This predictability of camera prices was first presented in 1998 at the Australian PMA DIMA conference by Barry Hendy and since referred to as "Hendy's Law"
i take it back. he has more than one photo i think is a masterpiece.
a lot more than i can say about my own work.
still, he's no ed weston.
Hi A-Man!
Lemme know when the Inanity Troll is gone.
Thanks.
Thank you, hugh, I appreciate the lesson.
My wife has decided to take her new Fuji 10 Mega Pixel Camera back because it does not work as well as her old Fuji 6 Mega Pixel Camera. (THe old one has a much better lens and zoom. You just explained why it is better)
I think I'd rather buy a really nice telescope than a hot rod camera.
Islam will rule America!
"violence is down 70 percent in Iraq"-global warming denier and lover of socal Glenn Beck
I'm not a photog, but even before digitals, I got the idea that there is no substitute for quality glass.
MP
that's still true, tho not as true as it used to be. don't buy an expensive digital and cheap out on the glass.
I'm listening to the new pornos live from the 9:30 club via NPR. God they suck.
Sometimes though, even a rookie will get lucky with a cool shot.
MP
The difference between a amateur and a "professional" is consistency.
Oh, and professionals don't get bored by the subject.
A piece of glass? Chunk of metal? Aunt Martha? It's all good.
Young fascist making a "discovery"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h?
v=FZMa9OC4xK8
I think I'd rather buy a really nice telescope than a hot rod camera.
MP
Wanna do long range on the cheap? You can place a simple digital point-and-shoot, like a Canon Powershot, against the the back end of a spotter scope. It won't be museum quality, but you can get stuff like facial closeups of a baby moose without a) paying thousands of dollars for a high-end telephoto lens or b) pissing off mama moose.
that's still true, tho not as true as it used to be.
Oh, it's the same as it ever was. The laws of physics didn't fucking change.
Wanna do long range on the cheap?
I was thinking more of astronomy. One of those rigs that finds shit up there without me having to fuck around too much with it.
One of those rigs that finds shit up there without me having to fuck around too much with it.
MP
You mean you don't want to have to consult a star atlas and then calculate the current location?
A piece of glass? Chunk of metal? Aunt Martha? It's all good.
JR, not currently banned
My photographic obsession is grain elevators. But I'll shoot anything that looks interesting.
But I'll shoot anything that looks interesting.
Jennifer
I'll shoot anything. Interesting is what *you* make it.
Oh, it's the same as it ever was. The laws of physics didn't fucking change.
JR, not currently banned
computers. you don't need carl zeiss to make your lenses any more. altho if you have the option...
I think you're just rephrasing what I said.
You mean you don't want to have to consult a star atlas and then calculate the current location?
The outfits they're coming out with that include GPS positioning to determine your latitude eliminate all of that.
You mean you don't want to have to consult a star atlas and then calculate the current location?
JR, not currently banned
Well that could be rewarding too, but I just want to look at stuff. The objects move off the field really quickly. The Moon hauls ass across the night sky.
I think you're just rephrasing what I said.
Jennifer
Nope, reversing it.
I've been paid to shoot things that are definitely do not "look interesting". It's my job to make a photograph that is accurate and attractive.
I shoot all kinds of stuff, but as you can see, mostly my cats.
The outfits they're coming out with that include GPS positioning to determine your latitude eliminate all of that.
FeralLiberal
Shit, I forgot the joke tags.
I forgot the joke tags
I know you were joking, but the comment you were refering to was not
Hey!
Curly got in my lap, today!
I think the last time that happened was when I first got him.
.
I shoot all kinds of stuff, but as you can see, mostly my cats.
FeralLiberal
the ignominious end of weston's career.
which is to say, i love cat pictures. but weston's really did suck.
Ah yes.
Chris Hitchens got a Brazilian full-body wax, and that includes his junk.
This is great stuff, people. Chris Hitchens has hair-free testicles! That's terrific.
This is great stuff, people.
I'm afraid. I'm very afraid.
Chris Hitchens got a Brazilian full-body wax, and that includes his junk
Uhhh, he ain't got a hair on his ass...
Chris Hitchens has hair-free testicles! That's terrific.
Thers, Last Ethical Man
In a jar?
alrite, i meant to leave a half hour ago, but i got sucked in by the photography.
i'll have to catch up on hitchens' naked balls tomorrow.
peace.
The doesn't include a, you know, photo, does it?
Jeffraham, he wants you to feel bettah!
Chris Hitchens has hair-free testicles!
MMmmmm.....
But I'll shoot anything that looks interesting.
You and Dick Cheney.......
But I'll shoot anything that looks interesting.
You and Dick Cheney.......
Flint,Employed | 10.27.07 - 11:28 pm | #
Dick Cheney will just shoot anything.
Chris Hitchens has hair-free testicles! That's terrific.
Thers, Last Ethical Man
Psycopaths don't want to leave DNA behind.
Sallyh -- Has it been raining in your part of the Valley? It's drizzled and sprinkled here off and on all day. Light rain as I type.
The kind of stuff I like to shoot...
http://thumbsnap.com/v/wP2q7sR1.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/9hHBxZBD.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/TAEOMRlz.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/eWPpjU6K.jpg
"H"... Rumpleminze...ETC.
Toons, spitting a bit here and there. Driveway still not completely wet.
Cheney to Go Hunting in New York
WASHINGTON (AP) - Attention, late-night talk show hosts: Vice President Dick Cheney is going hunting again.
Cheney became the butt of jokes for shooting a companion in 2006. On Monday, the vice president is picking up his shotgun for an outing in New York's Hudson River Valley. He is expected to spend the day at a hunting club in Dutchess County before returning to Washington.
Cheney, on a hunting trip in Texas on Feb. 11, 2006, shot attorney Harry Whittington in the torso, neck and face when he pulled the trigger on his 28-gauge shotgun. The vice president later called it "one of the worst days of my life" and said, "The image of him falling is something I'll never ever be able to get out of my mind."
The shooting was ruled an accident. Whittington was hospitalized for six days.
Cheney has gone hunting a couple of times since the accident.
I'm afraid. I'm very afraid.
Over at FDL I link to pictures of Hitch in the shower.
Richard
Where is that waterfall?
They heavy duty pain meds are really kicking in, and I will be asleep within twenty minutes but I am gonna try to get this thought out. (BTW, if you think that Oxycontin is so wonderful, let me explain that 25 mg has the effect of making one sleep as it relieves the pain. That is all it EVER does for me)
Sometimes I lament the fact that my writing has brought me neither fame nor fortune but then again: I have never written anything that I am not proud of. I never equated apples and oranges or took some ridiculous stance in the hope of making people hate me enough to publish my book or read something I wrote for the express purpose of despising my words and thoughts. (Jonah Goldberg comes to mind here)
Nor have I ever done anything to draw attention to myself that I could not tell my mom and dad -- if they were still alive -- about with pride. (Christopher Hitchens getting a bikini wax and his balls stripped of hair ala Thers post at FDL comes to mind here) Well, done, Thers, BTW.
So, I labor on in obscurity: neither famous nor rich and not likely to be. But at least I do have my pride and that should count for something.
Over at FDL I link to pictures of Hitch in the shower.
I hope you're kidding. I just can't go there...
Toons, spitting a bit here and there. Driveway still not completely wet.
Sounds like we've gotten a bit more here than you've gotten.
Richard,
That sorta looks like somebody left the Stanley Cup sitting there on the dock.
feral liberal. had to leave after my last post... i get to wisc now and then, but never with a pickup. email me an addy and i'll sure send you a decanter.
and btw, let's keep this just between us otherwise the other 60 fucking hosers in this blog will want one too.
Over at FDL I link to pictures of Hitch in the shower.
Thers, Last Ethical Man
You may want to send a copy to Chris Matthews.
Richard
Where is that waterfall?
Pigeon River, on the border between Ontario (on the right) and Minnesota (on the left).
and btw, let's keep this just between us otherwise the other 60 fucking hosers in this blog will want one too
Oooops
and btw, let's keep this just between us otherwise the other 60 fucking hosers in this blog will want one too.
fokowi
You really have no choice now but to rent a truck and drive to each atriot city. I suggest heading west at your earliest convenience.
Well I can see pigeons in the Walmart parking lot.
Whoopee!
Tennessee beats South Carolina in OT -- 27-24.
Well I can see pigeons in the Walmart parking lot.
buck
Those are the bats in your belfry.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Sorry... floating in and out. Just about to set sail for more sleepage, as if I hadn't already slept enough, today!
.
Night, all
Keep 'em flyin'
evening bats
FSU finally won a game...granted, it was against a team that hasn't won in the ACC since 2004, but still
Hitch soaps his nipples.
The living death that walks.
I suggest heading west at your earliest convenience.
ErinPDX Kelly | 10.27.07 - 11:39 pm | #
a good job those ducks today did..
I think President George Bush was really wrong for allowing Congress' questioning of Condi to go undeclared illegal the other day, and thereby to let her be grilled by them. By allowing her to be put in an uncomfortable situation, he was showing that he was not sensitive to a woman's needs, which is why he was wrong. Instead, he should have used his inherent authority as Commander in Chief to declare the questioning unconstitutional, as interfering with the conduct of a war during wartime.
Hitch soaps his nipples.
Thers, Last Ethical Man
How does he keep that thing lit in the shower? The cigarette, I mean.
I don't know what movie I'm watching. These pay-per-view thingies are fun.
.
I think Swan is full of shit.
Hitch soaps his nipples.
Thers, Last Ethical Man
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
I think Swan is full of shit.
Why, yes. Yes, he is.
I saw an infomercial that could treat that just last night.
to go undeclared illegal the other day
gibble flaavor betchalt snoorrff.
The Black Hole is on TCM. Some great SFX get lost in a cheesily written story.
Some more shots...
http://thumbsnap.com/v/K4tYbV4e.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/QXZiOfA4.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/TSV88D7v.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/1LqeXBCx.jpg
...President George Bush......declared illegal .....Commander in Chief.... unconstitutional......war...
Swan | Homepage | 10.27.07 - 11:47 pm | #
Makes sense now.
Richard--where are those beautiful falls!
Welllllllll. I reckon I'd better hit the sack.
♥
Biofuels and water. I've lived in four states that produce quantities of corn. I've seen irrigation in every state. They do let feed corn dry out. But even that is initially irrigated.
TCM...?
I miss TCM.
Local Time-Warner cable in Ventura County moved to the "premium" list....
The Black Hole is on TCM. Some great SFX get lost in a cheesily written story.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
Da robots are really cool though, especially the one voiced by Roddy McDowell......
fokowai--Why don't you just drive that pickup (with the decanters) out to EschaCon--sounds like a fine way to toast fellow Atriots!
Da robots are really cool though, especially the one voiced by Roddy McDowell......
He's the only good thing in the movie.
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signed Not Kevin.
Flint,Employed | 10.27.07 - 11:58 pm | #
Saw it as a very young person. Great SFX, good visuals. Muddled, silly story though. It was Disney's first PG film, which was a big deal back then.
Tonight I had :
Corn Chowder
Fritos
Corn on the Cob
Polenta
Go Rockies!!!!
Tonight I had :
Corn Chowder
Fritos
Corn on the Cob
Polenta
Gilly Gonzylon
...go see the movie "King Corn"
A tv movie my brother wrote is getting ready to start on the Disney Channel here on the west coast.
Jesus | 10.28.07 - 12:01 am | #
Aren't you busy? You should stop interfering in ball games...
Silly son of God...
Tonight I had :
Corn Chowder
Fritos
Corn on the Cob
Polenta
Gilly Gonzylon | 10.28.07 - 12:01 am | #
Is there some sort of corn festival where you live?
...go see the movie "King Corn"
or Children of the Corn.
Parts I - XXIII
Muddled, silly story though
I was disappointed there wasn't a sequel 
The "sex" scene at the end led one to believe there might be...
...go see the movie "King Corn"
Darryl Pearce | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:02 am | #
The plot was like a maize
Jesus | 10.28.07 - 12:01 am | #
You're still cool, Jesus, despite people twisting your words all the time...
Silly son of God...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
You're wearing pink panties.
It was Disney's first PG film, which was a big deal back then.
I think someone says damn it, then there is Anthony Perkins' fate.
Great puke debate questions:
Would you have sex with a man to stop a terrorist attack?
If you had a time machine would you go back in time and abort bin laden?
Evening, all.
Anything irky I should know about since this morning?
Well, there's a blast from the past, I just ran into 2004's "mail Hitchens a box of live rats" campaign.
Gilly @ 12:01. Don't get too close to a microwave or heat. You're going to start to pop. Like Jiffy Pop (TM). Or something.
She you 'bats later, gotta spend some time w/ Mrs. Flint.
She puts up with me, and is a great hiking partner....
Corn Chowder
Fritos
Corn on the Cob
Polenta
Gilly Gonzylon | 10.28.07 - 12:01 am | #
Are you trying to make your own ethanol?
Jesus,
You know your ERA sucks....
Is there some sort of corn festival where you live?
Brooklyn Girl | 10.28.07 - 12:03 am | #
No, but Korn is playing here soon.
Are you trying to make your own ethanol?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 10.28.07 - 12:05 am | #
Methane, actually
OK, who wants wine?
Oh, here's Steve Simels, the guy who thinks David Bowie is overrated, Jennifer Jason Leigh is a lousy actress, and Natalie Portman is "too perky."
Simels is almost as old as Pops.
Natalie Portman is "too perky."
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:06 am | #
He's spot on regarding that one
fokowai--Why don't you just drive that pickup (with the decanters) out to EschaCon--sounds like a fine way to toast fellow Atriots!
jawbone | 10.27.07 - 11:59 pm | #
hadn't planned on attending, but if i had...
Richard--where are those beautiful falls!
Ahead of the falls, the water is only a few feet deep. You could walk right across.
Is that sweet white corn, sweet yellow, or yellow/white combined?
OK, who wants wine?
Thanks, but I make my own.
Oh, here's Steve Simels,
He's been known to say horrible things about Zappa too.
Damn him to hell.
Natalie Portman is just the right amount of perky. And she has finally started taking off clothes in her movies.
Jesus,
You know your ERA sucks....
FeralLiberal
Manny is going to hell, BTW.
Anything irky I should know about since this morning?
tell me why the fuck I can't walk.
Manny is going to hell, BTW
LOL!
Thanks, but I make my own.
FeralLiberal
So do I, from tap water.
Anything irky I should know about since this morning? - steve simels
You missed the afternoon castration symposium
Oh, here's Steve Simels, the guy who thinks David Bowie is overrated, Jennifer Jason Leigh is a lousy actress, and Natalie Portman is "too perky."
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:06 am | #
Have I mentioned I really dig that Bowie video comp you gave me for my birthday?
Is that sweet white corn, sweet yellow, or yellow/white combined?
Candymarl | 10.28.07 - 12:09 am | #
Before or after digestion?
So do I, from tap water
But how long do you let it age?
I knew I could convert you!
Dear Jesus, got any lottery numbers?
But how long do you let it age?
FeralLiberal
Dood, drunken wedding parties don't give a shit.
Dear Jesus, got any lottery numbers?
Candymarl
Yes.
I wonder if she'll be spending time barefoot in the kitchen, like a good conservative wife...
Conservatives left without a voice on 'The View'
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/arti...ce_on_the_view/
When Elisabeth Hasselbeck bade farewell to her cohosts on "The View" Tuesday, it was all hugs, well-wishes, and baby-product endorsements. But as Hasselbeck begins her 2 1/2-month maternity leave, the political landscape is shifting, as well. America's most dangerous conservative - or so some liberals see it - is leaving TV for a while.
Hasselbeck, the apple-cheeked blonde with the football-player husband, consistently draws a brand of hatred from the left that Hillary Clinton generates from the right; "screechmonger" is one of the more printable slurs hurled at her from the blogosphere. Barry Manilow has called her "offensive." Alicia Silverstone once refused to touch her. And that an America's sweetheart-type would generate such vitriol says a lot about the state of debate in a polarized country.
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What a smug bit of writing there.
Dood, drunken wedding parties don't give a shit.
Point well taken
So are you the one that makes them do the chicken dance?
BTW, Jerry Falwell has a pitchfork up his ass right now.
All right big J. Be like that. You're off my Christmas list!
simels knew Galactus when he was still living on Taa.
Pres. George W. Bush should have prosecuted the Iraq war more aggressively. By letting it get all messed up the way he did, he made Condi look bad.
So are you the one that makes them do the chicken dance?
FeralLiberal
Nah. Lucifer.
Anybody watching the SNL rerun?
I don't get Spoon...
Lord knows I've tried....
Dood, drunken wedding parties don't give a shit. - Jesus
uhhh, remember what the somalier said about your brew?
he made Condi look bad.
Like Condi needed any help...
uhhh, remember what the somalier said about your brew?
bo, The Original
No, but his dick stopped working shortly after that.
I don't get Spoon...
Lord knows I've tried....
steve simels | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:16 am | #
It's like cuddling, but dumber
OK. Later.
steve simels | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:16 am | #
Don't get Spoon...hell, I don't get why SNL is still on...
he made Condi look bad.
didn't WT post a pic titled "Willbuuur"?
Methane, actually
Gilly Gonzylon | 10.28.07 - 12:06 am | #
I think you will be very successful, starting in about 12 hours.
simels knew Galactus when he was still living on Taa.
Richard | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:15 am | #
Now you've really hurt me...
had the annual pumpkin carving party tonight...more drinkin' than carvin' though
http://devonwilson.com/wp-
galler...g2_itemId=24375
OK. Later.
Jesus
He'll be back
Don't get Spoon...hell, I don't get why SNL is still on...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
It's like Las Vegas, zombie entertainment
G'night, flittermice
zombie entertainment
shawk | 10.28.07 - 12:21 am | #
Exactly.
shawk | 10.28.07 - 12:21 am | #
It does have a numbing effect on your soul....like Botox on your face...
Flynt Teases New “Huge” GOP Senate Sex Scandal
Friday October 26th, 2007 7:49 PM by BHDC Staff
Filed under: Sex, Scandals, Congress, Shocking, Larry Flynt
Larry Flynt, editor and publisher of Hustler magazine, just told FOX Business Network’s Neil Cavuto that he’s “hoping to expose a bombshell” that will stand “Washington and the country on its head.” Within the next week or two, he says his magazine will expose a sex scandal of huge proportions involving a prominent United States Senator. Flynt refused to comment on the Senator’s political affiliation, but alluded that he or she is a Republican.
http://
www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2150579
Or she. Hmmmmmmmm . . .
-
A really bad version of Sleepy Hollow, "The Hollow" is on SciFi. Bad acting. Bad directing. Not scarey. Wait. Why am I watching it?
(slinks away)
QuentinCompson | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:23 am | #
I speculated it was Lieberman...
He's been rather quiet lately...
But I have no proof, just woman's intuition...
Hutchinson isn't running again, is she?
Corn sucks up a lot of water and then breathes it out into the atmosphere -- the local weatherman says all the corn downstate really adds measurably to the summer humidity around here. Hah. As if we need any more summer humidity in Chicago.
Candymarl | 10.28.07 - 12:24 am | #
Once in a while, badly made movies are fun to watch for about 10 minutes while you speculate on the following...
How bad the writing, directing, and acting are...
How the hell did this get made?
Who green lighted such crap?
Why would anyone agree to be in it?
Then, why am I watching this?
just woman's intuition...
Hmmmmm . . .
-
I will stand up for Spoon. And for the Rockies. But WTFDIK.
Been playing Husker Du and PIL all day (and some Sex Pistols thrown in)...
speculated it was Lieberman...
But I have no proof, just woman's intuition... - Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Jesus, if you're still here, please make it be Bitch McConnell.
Wooo....
That was a long nap.
I'm watching RealTime.
Should I go back to bed?
BTW, Jerry Falwell has a pitchfork up his ass right now.
I'd feel better if it was stuck up his urethra.
It's not hard to stand up for Hüsker Dü.
bo, The Original | 10.28.07 - 12:29 am | #
There's been many rumours about Mitchie for years...
For those of you who like totally fucked up weird stuff, I have a book recommendation:
I Shall Destroy All the Civilized Planets: The Comics of Fletcher Hanks
http://www.fletcherhanks.com/WEL...om/
WELCOME.html
Here's an interview with the guy who put the book together
http://forum.newsarama.com/showt...ad.php?
t=104479
JeffCO | 10.28.07 - 12:31 am | #
I was reading about punk today, and they mentioned Husker Du, but I never really thought of them as punk. They were comparing them to Black Flag, and how Husker really shot Flag and a lot of punk bands out of the water.
Just loved the music, that's all.
True, JTAG. Actually, I've watched more of the 100 Scariest Movies on Bravo. Now that's more scarey with only showing excerpts. They're showing interviews with directors, actors, and other people I don't know. But they've got Lance Henriksen. I've had a crush on him for years.
At least I'm trying to watch it. My cat is currently in his needy phase.
Jesus, if you're still here, please make it be Bitch McConnell.
That would be my wish as well.
Jesus, if you're still here, please make it be Bitch McConnell.
bo, The Original | 10.28.07 - 12:29 am | #
Oh, that would be lovely.
My cat is currently in his needy phase.
Candymarl | 10.28.07 - 12:33 am | #
Mine was an hour or so ago. He's asleep...
Orson Welles' Kafka's The Trial is on TCM.
Just as boxy pictures as Citizen Kane and still not a clean right angle in the whole thing. Makes one yearn for a T-square and level.
-
Back in the day there was a big friendly rivalry between Husker Du and the Minutemen. Black Flag were a separate issue.
I always thought of Hüsker Dü as the harder end of college indie rock.
I was just pondering whether the Minutemen were more punk. More than HD I'd think anyway.
I always thought of Hüsker Dü as the harder end of college indie rock.
JeffCO | 10.28.07 - 12:36 am | #
And I always thought it was corn flavored ice cream ...
(runs away)
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:35 am | #
Did they settle it in a steel cage match?
I always dug Husker. Never heard any Minutemen songs. Not a Black Flag fan at all.
Papelbon v. Holliday. Finally a matchup in this Series that mean something.
QuentinCompson | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:35 am | #
I always liked The Trial more than Kane myself...
Minutemen's Double Nickels on the Dime is still a great piece of work.
I'm trying to enforce "nappy nap time". It ain't working. However, it is my nappy time. Good night to all and pleasant dreams....
{insert Vincent Price laugh here}
Anyway, the term back then wasn't "punk," it was "hardcore."
I feel old.
I am very, very tired.
List monitors arrive with petitions!
yo the nightshift
I feel old. The Kenosha Kid
Must be from all the "slam dancing."
Holliday flies out...
I feel old.
The Kenosha Kid
I am very, very tired.
NTodd
fucking geriatric night at the eschaton
World Series Baseball at near 1 AM Eastern. When did this shit start?
Anyway, the term back then wasn't "punk," it was "hardcore."
I feel old.
The Kenosha Kid
If you're old, it was "noise."
Must be from all the "slam dancing."
..which we actually called "skanking," but that might have been a NY thing?
The Kenosha Kid
Here's something that will take you back to your youth...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...836F207&
index=5
If you have a skankin' pickle, please see your doctor.
Here's something that will take you back to your youth...
I'm not Simels!!!
World Series Baseball at near 1 AM Eastern. When did this shit start?
When they invented the other timezones.
World Series Baseball at near 1 AM Eastern. When did this shit start?
I'm not much happier that it's coming up on 11PM here either.
Been playing Husker Du and PIL all day (and some Sex Pistols thrown in)...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 10.28.07 - 12:29 am | #
I think I mentioned I saw Husker Du in 1987 for the "Warehouse" album. Small venue, the size of a movie theater. Great show, no banter between songs.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:45 am | #
Well, that's true, but I couldn't find any footage of Bach before the royal court performing The St. Matthew Passion, which would have been more around your youth...
MLB's gonna have a TV party tonight....
..which we actually called "skanking," but that might have been a NY thing?
I think that's just a fucked up thing. Who the hell called that skanking? That's when you go cruising for skanks.
"fucking geriatric night at the eschaton"
Old people fucking...
I wonder if they get TCM at Gitmo?
-
Old people fucking...
Enjoy yourself... it's later than you think.
fucking geriatric night at the eschaton - ::matthew
I'd hit you, but my arthritis is acting up.
kay, i've got a significant drive home tomorrow, gotta pick up the dogz, then head back to btv for my date with valerie. i should sleep now.
somebody wake me up when the war's over. or at about 9am, whichever happens sooner.
MLB's gonna have a TV party tonight....
Alright!
And Janeane: 
Old people fucking...
Or not...
That's when you go cruising for skanks.
NTodd
The girlies was to skinny from smokin all them drugs
Cus the rock man got em and their butts just drop
The freaks look depressed because the Benz wont stop
And Janeane:
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:48 am | #
I couldn't resist....hehehehe...
I've abouthad it with the Sox' golden shower of hits.
Old people fucking...
You can leave yer teeth out.
For some reason, this reminds me of Cheney...
http://
davidthompson.typepad.com...er_hanks_66.jpg
Still luv my backyard
http://img.photobucket.com/album...rloh/
016_6a.jpg[/IMG]
Should I go back to bed?
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 12:30 am | #
hi honeybear
i'll need more information before i can answer that...
I think that's just a fucked up thing. Who the hell called that skanking? That's when you go cruising for skanks.
You're so busted.
"You can leave yer teeth out."
it is out, thank you.
I've abouthad it with the Sox' golden shower of hits.
They're wild in the streets.
I'm reasonably sure skanking requires a porkpie hat and usually includes Alexei Sayle.
"You can leave yer teeth out."
it is out, thank you.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | 10.28.07 - 12:50 am | #
Still luv my backyard
You should!
They're wild in the streets.
It's a fuckin' coup d'etat.
For some reason, this reminds me of Cheney... - Richard
The line, "My secret ray is working perfectly. I can feel the vibartions of both Earth and Venus", reminds me of Loofah Boy O'Reilly.
I'm reasonably sure skanking requires a porkpie hat and usually includes Alexei Sayle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ska...i/Skank_(dance)
aangus - don't be a rude boy.
Who me!
*Big toothy grin*
Still luv my backyard
Is there a big lizard in it?
Ann Wright is on c-span - resigned FSO Iraq dissident.
http://www.koabooks.com/
DissentD...ntDemocracy.php
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the site via wikipedia makes it sound teh gaii
http://www.spencerblack.org/madi...ncer/blog/?
p=14
The Movie That Made New York What It Is Today
Man, slamming on hood of taxi inching forward: Hey! I'm walkin' here! [Turns to people behind him] Where's that from?
Lady passerby: Midnight Cowboy!
--50th & Broadway
dunno of this skanking - dat make me old - apart from the tooth?
Just because there's two out in the bottom of the 9th and the Rox are behind by 5 doesn't mean nuthin.
one word...
gododd!
aangus - don't be a rude boy.
Billy, don't be a hero.
dunno of this skanking - dat make me old - apart from the tooth?
No, but we may start calling you Gummy Joe.
Crap.
Is there a big lizard in it?
JeffCO
Na, it's spring fed, most of the time it puts frogs to sleep 'cause it's too cold.
3-0. That's a tough comeback to face.
If you use the f-word a lot, it makes you look like a liberal, if you're not. No one will ever know the difference!
Sox are now up 3-0 in the series. I guess gawd doesn't really give a shit about the rockies. Maybe he's too busy with football season.
Lady passerby: Midnight Cowboy!
Everybody's still talkin'.
"No, but we may start calling you Gummy Joe."
only one is fake, you know...
If you use the f-word a lot, it makes you look like a liberal, if you're not. No one will ever know the difference!
Swan
fuck off you fucking fuckstick
Just because there's two out in the bottom of the 9th and the Rox are behind by 5 doesn't mean nuthin.
JeffCO
Time to bring out the Bjebus.
Sox would have to take a dive 4 games in a row. I don't see that happening, especially with Beckett mixed in.
If you use the f-word a lot, it makes you look like a liberal
F-word? Felch?
Sox would have to take a dive 4 games in a row. I don't see that happening, especially with Beckett mixed in.
MP | 10.28.07 - 1:03 am | #
Take THAT, thumpers!
Beckett could throw so hard his arm comes out the socket.
what's this about the rockies and jeebus?
he their team?
ferret?
fix?
flounce?
fatuous?
fence?
Night, all...
flatulence?
french?
fillet -O- fish?
fellatio?
freak?
fixed income?
fallingwater?
ferry cross the mersey?
wow that dood's blog gots ll bean ads. much better than chevron.
Islam will conquere America!
Convert now Kaffirs!
Islam is on the march and we will rule in America!
Enthusiastic chick: You know what they say -- hindsight is 50-50!
--12th & Broadway
Flint?
wonder which congress critter ain't showing up for work next week?
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
I like kefir. It's quite tasty.
We are victorious!
The armies of the Prophet are on the march!
Flummoxed?
Fornication?
Fisher's Exact Test?
firewall
foil
ferrous
fandango
I thank you Progressives for assistance in our victories!
slam is on the march and we will rule in America!
assalam alaikam toby and everbody
formby's furniture polish?
Ever notice how much fringenuts enjoy pretending they're in al qaeda? What's up wid that?
"You know what they say -- hindsight is 50-50!"
90% of hitting is half mental
dood on frontline the other night from iran said al qaeda is uniquely merkan creation. i tend to agree.
"What's up wid that?"
must have something to do with the f word
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I Win.
What's up wid that?
No sense of irony.
My shoes are laced with irony.
Hassan,
You not going to get anywhere or be taken seriously until you have a blog with a PayPal link. 'Til then, there's not much we can do for you.
Have you considered hiring an agent?
felch
Sorry.
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Sorry. - MisterX
For being 14 minutes late?
Gotta hit the sack. G' Night.
Islam is on the march!
Faustian?
filigree?
foppery?
fey?
For being 14 minutes late?
JeffCO
Frisson?
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felch
we have a winner. assalam alaikam.
hindsight is 50-50
Philip K. Dick?
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night
Thplbbt!
Islam is on the march!
Hassan AL-Rushad
islam is rising . . .
in my pants
i needs teh exorcist
Guy #1: He almost got married to a 15-hundred-dollar a night hooker!
Guy #2: Really? So, what broke the deal?
Guy #1: He found out she was a 15-hundred-dollar a night hooker.
Guy #2: He wasn't paying her the whole time?
Guy #1: Naw, he was getting it for free!
Guy #2: Awesome.
--122nd & Broadway
The Liberal's f-word?
Obivously, frappachino, duh.
President mano a mano with terrist
http://bellaciao.org/en/IMG/jpg/...ush-
prince7.jpg
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me & bo is snoozing real slow.
President mano a mano with terrist
notice the, um, pants
fundament?
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Freeda Peephole!
early victim of the war of terror
http://www.bluecorncomics.com/pi...ics/
mcveigh.jpg
If George really cared about me, he would pay more attention to my needs, not just to his stupid wars and foreign policy and whatever.
fun?
g'night.
earlier victim of war of terror
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
Pict...60607weaver.jpg
40 years back victim of war of terror
http://www.princeton.edu/pr/mlk/
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fudge
freight
farewell
foreskin ?
Bush is responsible for the fires!
Bush is responsible for the fires!
If he is in public in the near future, and does not have bandages on his hands I don't believe it. He's clumsy enough to have fucked that up also.
Kaffir, I puts that in my Tom Yum.
Yup, that's some quality snark.
The problem continues, of course, to be that we're wasting American blood in that fucking quagmire, destroying our Army (it will take 10 years, minimum, to fix it), and the most galling thing of all is that the war criminal responsible will not hang from the neck until dead.
The problem continues, of course, to be that we're wasting American blood in that fucking quagmire, destroying our Army (it will take 10 years, minimum, to fix it), and the most galling thing of all is that the war criminal responsible will not hang from the neck until dead.
The real problem is that we took someone's country and blew it up, turning it into a killing field.
And managed to shoot ourself in the foot in the process.
Go Rockies!!!!
Jesus
Jeebus better get busy and wake up some bats, because the Rockies are in one hell of a hole.
I don't like the Rockies. To much fundyism there.
Crazies call Commander in Chief, Armed Servicemen Baby Killers
(AP) - Thousands of people called for a swift end to the war in Iraq as they marched through downtown on Saturday, chanting and carrying signs that read: "Wall Street Gets Rich, Iraqis and GIs Die" or "Drop Tuition Not Bombs."
The streets were filled with thousands as labor union members, anti-war activists, clergy and others rallied near City Hall before marching to Dolores Park.
As part of the demonstration, protesters fell on Market Street as part of a "die in" to commemorate the thousands of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens who have died since the conflict began in March 2003.
The protest was the largest in a series of war protests taking place in New York, Los Angeles and other U.S. cities, organizers said.
The real problem is that we took someone's country and blew it up, turning it into a killing field.
And managed to shoot ourself in the foot in the process.
Can't disagree, kitty-loving centaur.
What pisses me off the most is that I was so right about this five years ago.
Let's blame Bush for the fires!
We blamed him for the bridge falling.
Why not this as well.
Watch, when our emperor, is out of power and the wars are over, and the moneys for the wars, have been spent, conservatives will be yammering again, whenever a social welfare program is proposed. This will happen no matter how needful the program is, how worthy the proposed recipients are, even if there is a demonstrable positive return on the money. Health care, food, and education for the young are examples of programs that easily could have a positive return. They should be mocked. if not just hit in the head whenever they do this.
Can't disagree, kitty-loving centaur.
What pisses me off the most is that I was so right about this five years ago.
Yeah, me too.
John Cole reacted to the WAPO article with snark. I'm rather beyond that now. I just can't laugh at this anymore.
Watch, when our emperor, is out of power and the wars are over, and the moneys for the wars, have been spent, conservatives will be yammering again, whenever a social welfare program is proposed.
Not after I shoot their sorry asses into the sun.
The only thing they'll be yammering about then is how hot they are.
Not after I shoot their sorry asses into the sun
If that R&D program fails to result in a workable launch platform, can we just cook them into bio-diesel?
That would be carbon neutral.
Bush sucks!
Latest favorite video:
Modest Mouse - You're Not Invisible Inside Your Car
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If that R&D program fails to result in a workable launch platform
Ye of little faith.
Get a grip, man.
Delaying the nominal time of sunrise and sunset increases the use of artificial light in the morning and reduces it in the evening. As Franklin's 1784 satire pointed out, energy is conserved if the evening reduction outweighs the morning increase, which can happen if more people need evening light than morning. However, statistically significant evidence for any such effect has proved elusive. The U.S. Dept. of Transportation (DOT) concluded in 1975 that DST might reduce the country's electricity usage by 1% during March and April,[4] but the National Bureau of Standards (NBS) reviewed the DOT study in 1976 and found no significant energy savings.[5] In 2000 when parts of Australia began DST in late winter, overall electricity consumption did not decrease, but the morning peak load and prices increased.[6] A 2007 simulation estimated that introducing DST to Japan would increase energy use in Osaka residences by 0.13%, with a 0.02% decrease due to less lighting more than outweighed by a 0.15% increase due to extra cooling; the simulation did not examine non-residential buildings.[20] In North America, there is no clear evidence that electricity will be saved by the extra DST introduced in 2007,[21] and though one utility did report a decrease in March 2007, five others did not.[22] DST may increase gasoline consumption: U.S. gasoline demand grew an extra 1% during the newly introduced DST in March 2007
Ye of little faith.
I've got faith,
but not much faith in rockets.
I know what they are, controlled explosions that are just waiting for a chance to blow up!
It is not clear whether sleep disruption contributes to fatal accidents immediately after the spring and autumn clock shifts. A correlation between clock shifts and accidents has been observed in the U.S. but not in Sweden. If this twice-yearly effect exists, it is far smaller than the overall reduction in fatalities.
In the 1970s the U.S. Law Enforcement Assistance Administration (LEAA) found a reduction of 10% to 13% in Washington, D.C.'s violent crime rate during DST. However, the LEAA did not filter out other factors, and it examined only two cities and found crime reductions only in one and only in some crime categories; the DOT decided it was "impossible to conclude with any confidence that comparable benefits would be found nationwide."[34] Although outdoor lighting makes potential crime victims feel safer, it may actually encourage crime.
I've got faith,
but not much faith in rockets.
I know what they are, controlled explosions that are just waiting for a chance to blow up!
Well, we call it a "rocket" because that's kind of become the generic term for "spaceship."
We're actually going to power it with a detachable motor fueled by a captive black hole and banana peels.
DST has mixed effects on health. In societies with fixed work schedules it provides more afternoon sunlight for outdoor exercise, which can contribute greatly to health. It alters sunlight exposure; whether this is beneficial depends on one's location and daily schedule, as sunlight triggers vitamin D synthesis in the skin, but overexposure can lead to skin cancer. Sunlight strongly influences seasonal affective disorder; DST may help in depression by causing individuals to arise earlier,[39] but some argue the reverse.[40] The Retinitis Pigmentosa Foundation Fighting Blindness, chaired by blind sports magnate Gordon Gund, successfully lobbied in 1985 and 2005 for U.S. DST extensions,[1][41] but DST can hurt night blindness sufferers.[42]
Clock shifts reduce sleep duration and efficiency,[43] and for most people the detrimental effects last throughout the months of the time change.[44] The government of Kazakhstan cited health complications due to clock shifts as a primary reason for abolishing DST in 2005
Though not punctual in the modern sense, the ancients adjusted daily schedules to the sun more flexibly than modern DST does, often dividing daylight into 12 equal hours regardless of day length, so that each daylight hour was longer during summer. For example, Roman water clocks had different scales for different months of the year: at Rome's latitude the third hour from sunrise, hora tertia, started in modern terms at 09:02 solar time and lasted 44 minutes at the winter solstice, but at the summer solstice it started at 06:58 and lasted 75 minutes. After ancient times, equal-length civil hours eventually supplanted unequal, so civil time no longer varies by season. Unequal hours are still used in a few traditional settings, such as some Mount Athos monasteries.
Multi-multi-multi-multi-multi multi-lateral move at Millsaps
http://video.google.com/videopla...earch&
plindex=1
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During his time as an American envoy to France, Benjamin Franklin anonymously published a letter in 1784 suggesting that Parisians economize on candles by arising earlier to use morning sunlight. Franklin's mild satire proposed taxing shutters, rationing candles, and waking the public by ringing church bells and firing cannons at sunrise, in the spirit of his earlier proverb "Early to bed and early to rise / Makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise."
What rhymes with "june"?
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Franklin proposed taxing shutters? Chalk up another founding father as believing in the welfare state.
What rhymes with "june"?
Throat-Warbler Mangrove.
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Franklin had elaborate tax schemes.
Jefferson wanted property distributed to all.
Hamilton wanted the government to actively finance internal improvements.
Paine called for a guaranteed income for all.
Former Bush General Touts Privatization of National Disaster Response
Sovereign Deed would offer planning and rescue services to subscribers who pay a "country club type membership fee." Basic service, he said, would involve a one time $50,000 fee and $15,000 per year.
http://www.michiganmessenger.com....do?
diaryId=320
Chalk up another founding father as believing in the welfare state.
Those fucking godless communists wrote "promote the general welfare" into the Constitution itself.
"festoon"?
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Retailers, sporting goods makers, and other businesses benefit from extra afternoon sunlight, as it induces customers to shop and to participate in outdoor afternoon sports. For example, in 1984 Fortune magazine estimated that a seven-week extension of DST would yield an additional US$30 million for 7-Eleven stores, and the National Golf Foundation estimated the extension would increase golf industry revenues $200 million to $300 million.
Even a stopped clock is accurate twice a day.
"McCain Rebukes Giuliani on Waterboarding Remark"
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/2...serland&
emc=rss
I'm watching Piper Laurie in the end of Carrie right now. Love the scene when she talks about how she first had sex with Carrie's father, ". I smelled the whiskey on his breath. Then he took me. He took me, with the stink of filthy roadhouse whiskey on his breath, and I liked it. I liked it! With all that dirty touching of his hands all over me. I should've given you to God when you were born, but I was weak and backsliding, and now the devil has come home."
What a creepy Xtian she was. How different is she from the fundamentalists of today.
banana peels.
fourlegsgood,
Donovan was soooooo far ahead of the times.
last
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20071...Em1kD2sj8ZvaA8F
:::While Lieberman's threat was not new, he has been making it more leading up to the meeting.
"We won't remain partners in the government if there will be significant negotiations on the core subjects," Lieberman told Army Radio:::
Not Liarman, Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Avigdor Lieberman Israel Beiteinu Party.
Opposition to successful negotiations can only be from those who want perpetual war at all costs.
'I Don't Think This Place Is Worth Another Soldier's Life'
After 14 months in a Baghdad district torn by mounting sectarian violence, members of one U.S. unit are tired, bitter and skeptical.
By Joshua Partlow
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, October 27, 2007; A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...2602402_pf.html
T. E. Lawrence Seven Pillars of Wisdom
We pay for these things too much in honour and in innocent lives. I went up the Tigris with one hundred Devon Territorials, young, clean, delightful fellows, full of the power of happiness and of making women and children glad. By them one saw vividly how great it was to be their kin, and English. And we were casting them by thousands into the fire to the worst of deaths, not to win the war but that the corn and rice and oil of Mesopotamia might be ours. The only need was to defeat our enemies (Turkey among them), and this was at last done in the wisdom of Allenby with less than four hundred killed, by turning to our uses the hands of the oppressed in Turkey. I am proudest of my thirty fights in that I did not have any of our own blood shed. All our subject provinces to me were not worth one dead Englishman.
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Just now got here, but reading the previous post, yesk, please lets let social secuirty lie for now. Let's not invite anyone to mess with it right now, please.
last
Nope.
Handspun Antique Hemp Nightgowns
http://
www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2148805
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Kreegah bundolo!
Now that no one is here, I just need to let you all know that I really am a flaming faggot. I puff peters as often as I can. So fuck you, America...that is all.
quite an apt juxtaposition, Quentin.
having read John Cole's snark before the actual article, then stumbling on your link/Lawrence cite, I applaud your "white man's burden, alas, what a burden" reference.
Fanon and on and on.
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I can't seem to face up to the facts
I'm tense and nervous and I
Cant relax...
Anyway. I have insomnia.
How does hemp clothing feel next to the skin?
http://www.foodnotbombs.net/
And a blurb about organizing such a thing.
http://home.earthlink.net/~foodn...ombs/
seven.html
How does hemp clothing feel next to the skin?
It depends on the manufacturer of the textile. The sensation, in my experience, ranges all the way from the feel of soft cotton to scratchy wool.
I've heard that a lot of the 'flax/linen" clothing you can sometimes buy, and that is make overseas is in fact, not made of flax but of hemp.
I've got some linen shirts, and though they are a PITA as far as ironing is concerned, are otherwise comfortable and durable shirts to wear.
Doug and me
Thanks for the info on hemp clothing. I knew about it years ago and recently saw it catalogs. I may have to try it.
Linen has been around a long, long time. I wonder when the flat iron was invented?
I'll now go to sleep pondering the answer to that so that you don't have to.
One advantage of linen/hemp clothing is that it seems to adsorb sweat, and breath better than cotton, and is more comfortable to wear in hot weather.
http://www.seeingtheforest.com/
a..._admin_bans.htm
Bush bans religious oath during memorial ceremony and wingnuts go crazy.
Our own Steve J has more on the wingnut outrage dejour with details on the folding ceremony being banned.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/2...rss&
oref=slogin
:::And though 18th-century France may seem impossibly distant to contemporary Americans, future historians examining Mr. Bush’s presidency within the longer sweep of political and intellectual history may find the French Revolution useful in understanding his curious brand of 21st- century conservatism.:::
Jacobins and the origins of the word "terrorist".
Governments should be afraid of their people.
http://motivationalimage.com/wp-...aoticgood-
1.jpg
http://sideshow.me.uk/
soct07.htm...07.htm#10271627
Avedon at Sideshow has a fine collection of links that should all be checked out, including on the House Judiciary Comm. massmailing a list of whistleblowers that ended up in Big Time Dick's hands. OOOOPS!
Is Bush’s Penchant for Torture Tied to a Secret Sado-Masochistic Past?
http://www.pensitoreview.com/200...elated-sm-past/
Ahem, so serious all.
What about the current price of oil?
Sorry, can't resist - I'm in Alaska.
the House Judiciary Comm. massmailing a list of whistleblowers that ended up in Big Time Dick's hands. OOOOPS!
Dumbfucks didn't know the difference between Bcc, and Cc on an email program, a common bit of retardation.
Yawn - bye bye.
What about the current price of oil?
Over 90 bucks a barrel. In this state, AZ the local convenience mart has fuel for $2.71 Gal/reg-unleaded, $2.96 Premium, and $3.25 diesel! It's less if you buy fuel from one of the grocery stores that subsidize the fill-up to the tune of 10 cents off per gallon if you buy $100.00 of merchandise.
2 Visitors Online
must be the price of oil...
http://www.rthk.org.hk/rthk/
news...8_56_442293.htm
:::An Israeli defence ministry spokesman says Israel will begin reducing fuel supplies to the Gaza Strip from Sunday. Earlier, in response to criticisms from human rights groups, the Israeli government denied that such a policy amounted to collective punishment.:::
Punishing everybody isn't collective punishment in a classic Orwellian sort of way.
[quietly steals first]
Hey Moe - who steals first???
You getting up or staying up late?
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2...by-
stalkin.html
The Kids Are in Play by Digby on Stalkin' Malkin and Virginia state Senate candidate Chap Petersen
Just getting up, CityKid. I can't steal first? Damn, I'll never get on base.
Tom--
Circled in red on the mail is part of a public document that lists Petersen's home phone number and Fairfax City address.
The guy's running for office. I don't have a problem with this.
Earlier, in response to criticisms from human rights groups, the Israeli government denied that such a policy amounted to collective punishment.
I guess they learned that from bushco.
Say they don't collectively punish by defining collective punishment as something it's not.
The guy's running for office. I don't have a problem with this.
I dunno, it's an ad designed to make people mad at him and has his address circled in red.
The idea that his kids are "in play" because he mentioned his family in a campaign ad (haven't politicians been doing that forever?) just isn't right.
The guy's running for office. I don't have a problem with this.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 5:50 am
You don't have a problem with publishing home details of someone running for public office? Yeeesh.
What are we supposed to be calling our congress-critters at home instead of at their offices or campaign offices from now on?
Cheney Office Issues 'Corrected' Dictionary To Combat Double-Plus-Ungood Word Definitions
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I seem to remember all kinds of outrage over people talking about Jenna and not-Jenna being drunks and tramps.
You don't have a problem with publishing home details of someone running for public office? Yeeesh.
What are we supposed to be calling our congress-critters at home instead of at their offices or campaign offices from now on?
I agree with that- putting it in an attack flyer seemed designed to stir up crazies to call and harrass his family.
They want to make it so that no one wants to speak up or run for office on the democratic side.
From that Bush-gets-whipped link up above, old news that I had forgotten:
‘Doonesbury’ creator recalls classmate Bush
Cartoonist Garry Trudeau, who has skewered politicians for decades in his comic strip “Doonesbury,” tells Rolling Stone magazine he remembers Yale classmate George W. Bush as “just another sarcastic preppy who gave people nicknames and arranged for keg deliveries.”
Trudeau attended Yale University with Bush in the late 1960s and served with him on a dormitory social committee.
“Even then he had clearly awesome social skills,” Trudeau said. “He could also make you feel extremely uncomfortable … He was extremely skilled at controlling people and outcomes in that way. Little bits of perfectly placed humiliation.”
Trudeau said he penned his very first cartoon to illustrate an article in the Yale Daily News on Bush and allegations that his fraternity, DKE, had hazed incoming pledges by branding them with an iron.
A view of ‘torture’?
The article in the campus paper prompted The New York Times to interview Bush, who was a senior that year. Trudeau recalled that Bush told the Times “it was just a coat hanger, and … it didn’t hurt any more than a cigarette burn.”
“It does put one in mind of what his views on torture might be today,” Trudeau said.
They want to make it so that no one wants to speak up or run for office on the democratic side.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 5:59 am
Go read the NYtimes article I linked above on the history of the Jacobins in the French Revolution.
The Malkintents are the modern Jacobin flying monkeys.
Well, I think we need to reclaim the public space. I'm not saying this right-- coffee's still brewing-- but, yea, I think we ought to have a world will people openly live in houses that people know about. Hell, Thomas Jefferson used to answer the door at the White House.
Sure, the wingnuts use the public sphere to beat up on people. We need to reclaim it.
Frank Rich, offering some hope, dissecting the fundy right; in " Rudy, The Values Slayer." :
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/2...=th&
oref=slogin
Sure, the wingnuts use the public sphere to beat up on people. We need to reclaim it.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 6:03 am
So you're saying that as the Malkintents force the private sphere in to the public sphere to humiliate and intimidate, we need to reclaim it, but not make it private again, but make it more public????
I am not following this? Are you suggesting publishing the Malkintents home info and harassing them and the kids as they harass others as per the Golden Rule?
'morning, kats and kittenz!
How's about a little political reconciliation?
HABBANIYA, Iraq — The American military’s push to organize Sunni Arabs into local neighborhood watch groups has been one of the United States’ most important initiatives in Iraq — so much so that President Bush flew to Anbar Province in September to highlight growing alliances with Sunni tribal leaders.
But now that the Americans are trying to institutionalize the arrangement by training the Sunnis to become policemen, the effort has been hampered by halfhearted support and occasionally outright resistance from a Shiite-dominated national government that is still inclined to see the Sunnis as a once and future threat.
It was the American military that pressed to open the new Habbaniya Police Training Center, where Sunni tribesmen and former insurgents are to be trained to serve as policemen in Anbar. And it was the Americans who provided the uniforms, food, new classrooms and equipment for the police recruits.
While the Iraqi government has agreed to basic police instruction at the academy, it has balked at training police leaders there. The government has also scaled back plans by Anbar officials to expand the provincial police force by almost 50 percent.
“The Ministry of Interior deals with the Sunni provinces different than they deal with the other provinces,” said Brig. Gen. David D. Phillips, an American Army officer who oversees the training of the Iraq police. “The only reason the Anbar academy opened is because we built it, paid for it and staffed it.” He said the Interior Ministry “was very hesitant about it.”
The Golden Rule, as I understand it, is:
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Not to mirror their mistreatment of you.
Well, I don't think people should intimidate or harrass other people. But I do think people holding public office should have public lives, with their phone numbers readily available, and that people should know where they live. I don't know how you reconcile the two in this world.
I call my father weekly, around 10 Eastern every Sunday. Because he is 82 and a survivor of a profound. paralyzing stroke; we usually keep the conversation to a few well-trod topics, like the weather and politics. Last week, the unmistakable anti-human thoughts of my sister were burned into Dad's words, and i slipped into a deep funk over it. I hope he'll have left her stuff behind today.
But I do think people holding public office should have public lives, with their phone numbers readily available, and that people should know where they live. I don't know how you reconcile the two in this world.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 6:09 am
So you are firmly in the camp that public office holders should not be able to have compartmentalised private lives?
There is a reason we pay taxes for public office holders to have offices with office phone numbers and office visiting hours. Or should we scrub their offices and just have them work from home, since that's where we expect them to be contacted?
I don't think we can prevent people who are so inclined from compartmentalizing their lives, but as long as public figures have a readily available compartment people can contact, I don't think that's so bad.
So you are firmly in the camp that public office holders should not be able to have compartmentalised private lives?
I don't think people should be harrassed. Where you draw the line, I don't know. I've called my city councillor at home. I was polite.
plantsman -- maybe you could have a plan for how you're going to change the subject if the bad stuff comes up?
"uh-huh . . . so, it's getting pretty chilly out here!"
American Medical Association Issues Plea to Bomb Iran Supporters To Resume their Anti-Psychotic Medication
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And I'm ambivalent about Tom and Moe's discussion, but I wonder how each of you feel about people being camped out at Nancy's house?
I always feel blind-sided when her words leave his mouth, and as yet I haven't found a good way to
escape their effects. I persevere.
Just getting up, CityKid. I can't steal first? Damn, I'll never get on base.
Moe Szyslak
And I should be in bed. I've always been pretty good at hitting the ball, but never could throw worth a hoot.
Stumbling through the current thread (hi 4Lg) I seem to recall reading that the last member of The House - some old coot from ND - was the last to refuse corporate lobbyists his time. Now just think what your chances are with your elected leaders when you're competing with the likes of Boeing, Raytheon and maybe Backwater. If you want to talk to the folks you "elected," good luck - call 'em at home.
I wonder how each of you feel about people being camped out at Nancy's house?
V
I don't know the details, V. I think it's fair to make a presence at her house, just like Cindy Sheehan did at the Bush camp. There's a line that can be crossed, I'm not sure how to define it.
And I'm ambivalent about Tom and Moe's discussion, but I wonder how each of you feel about people being camped out at Nancy's house?
V for Virginia | 10.28.07 - 6:18 am
I'd prefer them to be at her office.
Though I'm okay with camping out in Crawford, since it's become something of a Camp David West in the last 7 years.
My House Rep., Darlene Hooley, nearly always votes as I would wish -- even on the big Constitutional issues -- and has an in-district office less than a mile away. She has responded to snail-and email, so I'd never try to contact her at home.
Yesterday morning, a bunch of "Sky is Falling!" types were gathered here, whining away. I stood it as long as I could, and then left if to watch Alex Wittless.
There is, as I recall, public space and private space. I don't know what the current "legal" opinions are - but if you choose to be in the public space you give up lots of those private protections that folks have if they don't go "public." It seems to me that many that have chosen to be "public figures" now demand the rights of private citizens. It's a far reach. Politicians, celebrities, etal. gave it up when they went public.
It seems to me that many that have chosen to be "public figures" now demand the rights of private citizens. It's a far reach. Politicians, celebrities, etal. gave it up when they went public.
CityKid
Is Graeme Frost a public figure? He went public in the political sphere, after all.
Yesterday morning, a bunch of "Sky is Falling!" types were gathered here, whining away
I have days like that!
There are surely laws governing the harassment of figures, public and private alike. I doubt many folks bone-up on them before they act.
but if you choose to be in the public space you give up lots of those private protections that folks have if they don't go "public."
If the Malkintents want to try their hands at parody and sarcasm, let 'em try. But they opt every time for straight up intimidation.
As 4LG pointed out, this time they once again say it's okay to drag the kids in to the campaign because the father used a family photo in an ad.
does anyone remember how the malkintents reacted to the NYTimes article on Rumsfeld's home and that was invited by Rummy himself.
I have days like that!
Me three.
See, this is the problem. Public officials shouldn't be harrassed, but it's hard to define what "harrass" means.
Definitely they should be available to the public, and the public should know broadly how and where they live. On the other side of things, how far should a claim of privacy be taken-- should their home addresses be taken off tax assessment records? Off campaign filing reports? Should reporters not have access to that info, meaning they can't know if an official is building a multi-billion dollar house with lobbying bribes, or whatever?
There needs to be some cushy middle, which consists of people bahaving civilly.
Is Graeme Frost a public figure? He went public in the political sphere, after all.
V
V - as I understand the law Graeme Frost would not be a public figure; though Graeme's parents might be. Graeme Frost is a minor and would be provided protections because of age.
There needs to be some cushy middle, which consists of people bahaving civilly.
WORD. I take my cues from Keith Olbermann.
V - as I understand the law Graeme Frost would not be a public figure; though Graeme's parents might be. Graeme Frost is a minor and would be provided protections because of age.
CityKid
It takes me longer and longer to wake up in the morning, and the caffeine is still wending its way to my brain, so forgive me --
I think we might have two problems, here. One is finding some kind of delineation that applies to people I loathe and people I admire equally.
The second is that it's impossible to hold crazy people (I'm lookin' at you, Michelle!) to standards of rational behavior. We want to both find a standard of civility we can live with AND not get stampeded by people with no shame -- that's where it all falls apart.
Is Graeme Frost a public figure?
Clearly the "investigations" into him and his family were over-the-top, and, in a word, rude. It shouldn't have happened. But I fear a society that would make laws about it.
And, I'd note, he and his family come out of it looking all the better. There is, still, a respect for decency, and a disdain for indecency, in America.
There needs to be some cushy middle, which consists of people bahaving civilly.
No, I don't think so. The law and the courts have been pretty clear on the issue for the past 50 years or so. You gain things from being a public figure, but in doing so you sacrifice your privacy. That's the way it's always worked, why should it be any different now; left, right or sexy?
I think we might have two problems, here. One is finding some kind of delineation that applies to people I loathe and people I admire equally.
I don't believe this is a legally permissible distinction, dear.
That's the way it's always worked, why should it be any different now; left, right or sexy?
CityKid
I like the way Jim on Stephanie Miller expresses it:
"Look at me! Look at me! Look at me! . . .
What are you looking at?"
"Look at me! Look at me! Look at me! . . .
What are you looking at?"
you betcha
Stephanie Miller called Tweety a "right-wing hack" to his face on Hardball. He was NOT PLEASED.
morning all
crazy people? isn't that all of us, just depending on where the current line is drawn?
okay, going to be offline today, the ex has been told he has choices. die in hospital, at home, or hospice.
can't be online if the kids need to call.
tell Diane, she's going to be on soon, and I need to be off.
Take care, Ruth.
I don't believe this is a legally permissible distinction, dear.
plantsman, areligious
I mean, as part of my ethical thought exercise, I'm trying to apply the ideas to both, not that there's a legal distinction.
I think people should be camped out on Nancy Pelosi's front sidewalk, and don't think people should be camped out in front of the Frost's house. But I can see the argument that he "went public." Of course, again, that's coming from people who have no respect for decency.
More coffee.
Have as good a day as you can, Ruth.
Have as good a day as you can, Ruth.
plantsman
ditto!
Ruth -- good luck. I'll be thinking about you.
Watching Sally Bedell Smith explain her thoughts on the Clintons on Timmeh's eponymous show was
fascinating. Clearly, she believes there are great potential positives and negatives having Bill and Hill in the White House together.
btw, I have company this weekend. Yesterday I was kinda kicked off the intertubes and sucked into company life unexpectedly early. So, if you wondered where I went, that's it. Might happen again this morning. People will be rising soon.
Clearly the "investigations" into him and his family were over-the-top, and, in a word, rude. It shouldn't have happened. But I fear a society that would make laws about it.
In a sense he is a public figure.
As a symbol of the beneficiaries of the coverage he shows a devasting medical problem, and the burden of the expense of treating it. The phenomenally successful outcome was probably atypical.
Looking economically at who qualifies for the coverage was also legitimate.
Trying to swift boat the Frosts was not.
Stephanie Miller called Tweety a "right-wing hack" to his face on Hardball. He was NOT PLEASED.
plantsman, areligious
Heh heh heh.
(I think she was just jerking his chain, and actually felt pretty bad that he took it that way.)
Coulter and the Malkintents™ clearly have no sense of decency.
Lights out. I'm headed for a private space - can't keep up with all you early risers. caffeine or not - hehe; I'll have some later. Ahh time.
PS do have a look at:
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174853
Endgame for Iraqi Oil?
The Sovereignty Showdown in Iraq
By Jack Miles
The oil game in Iraq may be almost up. On September 29th, like a landlord serving notice, the government of Iraq announced that the next annual renewal of the United Nations Security Council mandate for a multinational force in Iraq -- the only legal basis for a continuation of the American occupation -- will be the last. That was, it seems, the first shoe to fall. The second may be an announcement terminating the little-noticed, but crucial companion Security Council mandate governing the disposition of Iraq's oil revenues.
........The news that the duly elected government of Iraq is exercising its limited sovereignty to set a date for termination of the American occupation radically undercuts all discussion in Congress or by American presidential candidates of how soon the U.S. occupation of Iraq may "safely" end. Yet if, by the same route, Iraq were to resume full and independent control over the world's third-largest proven oil reserves -- 200 to 300 million barrels of light crude worth as much as $30 trillion at today's prices -- a politically incorrect question might break rudely out of the Internet universe and into the mainstream media world, into, that is, the open: Has the Iraq war been an oil war from the outset?
My impression was that Miller meant it, let Tweety stew in his own juices over it, and then began to feel bad he took it so badly.
btw, I have company this weekend. Yesterday I was kinda kicked off the intertubes and sucked into company life unexpectedly early. So, if you wondered where I went, that's it. Might happen again this morning. People will be rising soon.
Moe Szyslak
Tell those bastards you're busy with your real life and don't have time to indulge in their virtual meat-space fantasy, for heaven's sake!
Coulter and the Malkintents™ clearly have no sense of decency.
plantsman
Yea, we come up against this time after time, from the Frosts to the anti-Clinton crazinesses, to the swiftboating, etc., etc., etc, and etc.
But I think that the way around this is to establish it as public truth: these people are jerks.
We need to get to the point where people understand that before their actions are even considered, so that the jerky behavior can be seen for what it is. That's what I'm talking about with "reclaiming the public space."
Has the Iraq war been an oil war from the outset?
Yes, yes it has -- just as people said at the time we invaded.
he government of Iraq announced that the next annual renewal of the United Nations Security Council mandate for a multinational force in Iraq -- the only legal basis for a continuation of the American occupation -- will be the last.
Good thing "the Iraqi government" doesn't really exist, or we'd be in a shitmess!
But I think that the way around this is to establish it as public truth: these people are jerks.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 6:50 am
Hmmm... so when Howie Kurtz has on the Malkintents and Coulters but calls Atrios and Thers uncivil, we can see how this will all play out.
Ruth...you're in my thoughts. I'm hoping for the best for you and yours. Sounds like tough times immediately ahead.
Best,
SD
V for VA..."shitmess"...???
Great coinage!!!
Unlike Thers, Molly is nearly always civil -- except when she's grading papers.
V for VA..."shitmess"...???
Great coinage!!!
Sarah Deere
A southernism, I think.
How are you?
Morning peeps.
It's one thing to have your address and phone number on a tax roll or in the phone book. Quite another to have blasted in a piece of hateful campaign literature or headlining at a nasty blog that preaches hate. Or any blog for that matter.
I know Central NC got a bit of rain, I'm wondering how much?
It's an uphill battle, fer sure. But a necessary one.
It was pouring rain here yesterday during the vigil. I got thoroughly drenched and quite chilled even though it was 70 degrees. The heat just kicked in so I'm thinking it is cooler today.
How are the NS fisheries, Moe; in collapse, or.......?
The heat just kicked in so I'm thinking it is cooler today.
ql optimist
We're headed into a cool spell, too; this is usually the loveliest weather of the year. Wetter than usual right now, though, but we don't mind. We need it.
George Will: The Repugs can't win unless they win California, and you can't win California unless you're prochoice, so the Repugs have to run Rudy. But it doesn't matter that he's pro-choice, don't worry you 29 percenters.
How are the NS fisheries, Moe; in collapse, or.......?
Non-existent.
Uh-oh.
But it doesn't matter that he's pro-choice, don't worry you 29 percenters.
Moe Szyslak
It's important that the president be a man of faith, because faith is an important basis for values, although Rudy is a Catholic, and his faith doesn't allow him to be pro-choice, so . . .
Complicated, ain't it?
There's still a lobster industry. But cod's gone from most areas (there's still one area producing way up north, but the Newfoundland fishery is essentially dead).
All the little hardscrabble fishing villages that once defined Nova Scotia are being transformed into upscale vacation getaways. It's very sad.
CSX's new ads stress the fuel efficiency of freight-by-rail in comparison to trucking goods all over.
Haven't had lobster in years, not that I haven't desired it -- too rich for my wallet.
It was a brilliant marketing move-- turning lobster, which was long considered a trashy seafood for the uncouth and poor, into high-cuisine.
I prefer my insects from the sea.
I should probably wake some people up.
It was a brilliant marketing move-- turning lobster, which was long considered a trashy seafood for the uncouth and poor, into high-cuisine.
Moe Szyslak
Them's some mighty delicious bugs, though!
Buh-bye, Moe; enjoy hosting!
Have a good one, Moe.
I don't like the NE pronouciation - "Lwobstah"
Although he has not declared his candidacy, this poll indicates that were he to enter the race, Al Gore could be a serious contender. Near the end of this questionnaire, his name was added to a short list of candidates vying for the nomination. He came in second among Democratic primary voters at 32% – just five points behind Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama trailed behind them in third place with 16% percent.
Mexicana Airlines has this new slogan I can't quite get a handle on (translated from the Spanish) "Fly thru the Sky where you were born..."
Newfoundland fishery is essentially dead).
All the little hardscrabble fishing villages that once defined Nova Scotia are being transformed into upscale vacation getaways. It's very sad.
Moe Szyslak
"Progress" ain't all it's cracked up to be. What it usually means is loss and heartache for the many, yet profits for the few.
Morning, kids.
So, at the WaPo's site, NewsMax.com has a "Hillary in 2008?" survey link. I'm not going there under ANY circumstanes.
Why cranky, dear; papers to grade?
V for VA...doing okay. We're a family known for our "traditions", and now we pay the price of continuing them missing one of our own. Tough week, going to get pumpkins at a farm last week, school clothes this week, G'parents Day at school next week. Both joy and pain.
How's by you?
"Progress" ain't all it's cracked up to be. What it usually means is loss and heartache for the many, yet profits for the few.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 10.28.07 - 7:18 am | #
And the few always ruin it for the many.
Papers, kids, cleaning--just feeling overwhelmed. Thers promised to help yesterday, but somehow never found the time. Grrr.
Oh, Sarah Deere, I'm so sorry. That never goes away. I haven't lost someone young like that, but I have lost my mom and my sister, both relatively young, and holidays and family traditions with gaps are the hardest thing to take.
Uh-oh! No bacon for youse!
My complex mgr. and I mused over how we still need to get punkins, whether Trick-or-Treaters show up or not.
Molly, my mom supported her husband and four kids. She claimed there were twenty years of which she had no memory. Wars, famines, social upheaval, all just kind of passed her by in the every day grind of work and family.
from Frank Rich's column today in the NYT:
Even leaving aside the Giuliani record in New York (where his judicial appointees were mostly Democrats), the more Democratic Senate likely to emerge after 2008 is a poor bet to confirm a Scalia or Alito even should a Republican president nominate one.
Boy, is he delusional!
Yeah, Molly, we're into the Hard Times for a while...T'giving, Xmas, birthdays...we'll get through, but we do have what my beloved DIL calls "grief attacks." She was spending some time in Alora's bedroom today. We're thinking we should take her clothes to a women's shelter because so many try to find a safe space and bring their kids with them, and they need things to wear. We want everything associated w/my g'dtr to be positive, to make a difference.
And then he rolled over at 7 and noted that he thinks he's getting sick. So of course, I won' get him to help today, either.
Feh.
This didn't help either.
Strict Constructionism requires a fervent belief that nothing has changed since 1787.
And the few always ruin it for the many.
Gilly Gonzylon
the few "bad apples"....?
I think the few steal it from the many, the fuckers.
Avedon owls.
Damn that Al-Qaeda and Sadaam for polluting my Lake Havasu waters!
Ho-lee shit.
I won.
I don't know what to say. Thank you!
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