I don't think I have blogrolled you yet, Avedon. My oversight. Did you know you are one of the top hits in Google for "not atrios"?
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Barry will make them all hold hands and sing Kumbaya!
Cookie Fleck `08 |
01.26.08 - 9:53 pm | #
See, there's Edwards problem right there. You can't talk about all that suffering and then smile. It's jarring. I like him but he has a style problem.- Culture of TrÜth
I remember a Twain story about folks looking down from heaven lamenting the fate of a soldier who was born to be the greatest military General in history, unfortunately for him and the rest of his countrymen he had neither lineage nor legacy and the powers that be had relegated him to a grade II cook ...
focus |
01.26.08 - 9:53 pm | #
im-pear
(well, it seemed funny a second ago)
whiskeyina |
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01.26.08 - 9:54 pm | #
You were one of the top hits - apparently not anymore.
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 9:54 pm | #
Gregoire is going to lose, unfortunately.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 9:48 pm | #
Really?
Haven't been following it.
ErinPDX |
01.26.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Oh god Hillary is going to sing.
Ok, no she isn't.
But if she did the tune would be "fuck you south carolina."
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Hillary's not going to sing is she?
virgotex |
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01.26.08 - 9:55 pm | #
hey scumborrough, did you hear the word "congratulate" you faceless fool tell the shill from NPR too ...
focus |
01.26.08 - 9:55 pm | #
Evening, all.
Been away since mid afternoon. Anything irksome happening I should know about, aside from NTodd saying that I'm Russ Meyer?
steve simels |
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01.26.08 - 9:55 pm | #
That was kind of scary wasn't is, CoT?
virgotex |
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01.26.08 - 9:56 pm | #
3 years into Obama's term, Giuliani will say that it's part of his strategy and he is well positioned.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 9:56 pm | #
msbsc cuts Clinton - fox stays on the speech ...
focus |
01.26.08 - 9:56 pm | #
550,000 South Carolinians cast their votes today. 100,000 more than did so last Saturday. The majority of them for Barack Obama, but that really isn't important right now.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 9:57 pm | #
Tweety is em-ceeing some hoity toity dinner in Philly tonight.
Cookie Fleck `08 |
01.26.08 - 9:57 pm | #
That was such a bad tactic from the Clinton campaign. You have the chance to get your full, shaped message out in free cabloid time, and forego it.
pseudonymous in nc |
01.26.08 - 9:58 pm | #
I don't think there was anything more perversely sexy than when Linda Fiorentino put her cigarette out in the dude's mother's apple pie in The Last Seduction.
Doug Watts, looser than thou |
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01.26.08 - 9:58 pm | #
THE GOVERNMENT TOTALLY SUCKS, YOU MOTHERFUCKER, THE GOVERNMENT TOTALLY SUCKS...
Let me tell you bout the government (Unh hunh?), they're fucking up the environment (say what?), they're taking all the fucking beautiful animals (Yeah?) AND MAKING THEM FUCKING EXTINCT (OH NO!!!)
More voted for Obama than cast votes in the 2004 primary.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 9:58 pm | #
Hey, that was pretty good.
sidhra صي ذ& |
01.26.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Gregoire is going to lose, unfortunately.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
No one could have imagined that pandering to the horse's ass would cost her votes.
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Edwards say he "started the week" behind.
Ok.
Dood, you're from North Carolina!
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 9:59 pm | #
The dem turnout is yet another big story ignored by the msm.
Cookie Fleck `08 |
01.26.08 - 9:59 pm | #
3 years into Obama's term, Giuliani will say that it's part of his strategy and he is well positioned.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 9:56 pm | #
--
My agent told me I would be remembered forever if I died in a horrible car crash in my 20s.
James Dean |
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01.26.08 - 10:00 pm | #
I have massive nostalgia for early 80s video arcades.
Tralfaz | 01.26.08 - 9:57 pm | #
That was such a bad tactic from the Clinton campaign. You have the chance to get your full, shaped message out in free cabloid time, and forego it.
pseudonymous in nc
What'd she do? I couldn't take the blather from the commentators.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 10:00 pm | #
The dem turnout is yet another big story ignored by the msm.
Surely a coincidence...
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 10:00 pm | #
He did it again.
Smiled when he talked about poverty.
Stop. It. John.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 10:00 pm | #
pseudonymous in nc,
Good point. She could have given a campaign speech - fucking free national advertising!!
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 10:02 pm | #
I shall be flamed for this.
So be it.
How old was Caroline Kennedy when her father died?
5? 6?
All she knows about him is what other people have told her and what she's read.
Don't forget that if it wasn't for Daley in Chicago and voting shenanigans in West Virginia JFK would have never been president.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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01.26.08 - 10:02 pm | #
Has anyone said "this is good for Giuliani" yet?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 10:03 pm | #
Who linked us to the Zombies YouTube video? That was really good.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 10:03 pm | #
Evening, all.
Been away since mid afternoon. Anything irksome happening I should know about, aside from NTodd saying that I'm Russ Meyer?
steve simels
Nothing irksome, sweetie. Obama had a big win in SoCarolina. Caroline Kennedy said Obama reminded her of her father.
I'm on my second vodka.
How are you?
Shaw Kenawe |
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01.26.08 - 10:03 pm | #
550,000 South Carolinians cast their votes today. 100,000 more than did so last Saturday. The majority of them for Barack Obama, but that really isn't important right now.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry | 01.26.08 - 9:57 pm | #
Does this translate into a high dem turnout if hrc is the nominee?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
01.26.08 - 10:03 pm | #
Macaroni has endorsed Edwards.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 10:03 pm | #
My agent told me I would be remembered forever if I died in a horrible car crash in my 20s.
James Dean
...well, it worked. I love your Pure Pork Sausage!
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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01.26.08 - 10:04 pm | #
...well, it worked. I love your Pure Pork Sausage!
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:04 pm | #
Does this translate into a high dem turnout if hrc is the nominee?
There is little data to predict that far into the future. Presidents don't get elected in a vacuum.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:05 pm | #
I'm on my second vodka.
How are you?
Shaw Kenawe | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:03 pm | #
Good, thanks. I'm about to emjoy an adult beverage as well. Perhaps a Ripple Blanc....
steve simels |
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01.26.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Well he was murdered after only 1,000 days in office. But he accepted responsibilty for the Bay of Pigs fiasco, and he was not going forward into Viet Nam (according to his brother, after JFK's death) and he was going forward with Civil Rights.
But he was murdered.
He did give this country hope and got many young people involved in politics.
Shaw Kenawe | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 9:59 pm | #
Thanks for the answer. I, of course, realized he didn't get to carry out everything he would have liked. As I said, not living through the time sometimes makes it hard to fully understand the events of that time. Can you imagine trying to explain the Bush years to someone born in 2010? You can give them the facts, but the true experience can't be duplicated.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Jonathan Coulton is awesome.
Mr French |
01.26.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Don't forget that if it wasn't for Daley in Chicago and voting shenanigans in West Virginia JFK would have never been president.
Not true. And there's a reason Nixon didn't contest.
Avedon |
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01.26.08 - 10:05 pm | #
TCM follows up an excellent Earnest with a story about WHAT COLOSSAL FUCKING PUSSIES POST-IX/XI AMERICANS ARE, or, really a short subject about the remarkably bright and businesslike British under the Nazi bombings.
The British NuLab government after the more recent bombings tried to pussify and instill panic and they had to pack in their domestic terror shortly after beginning. Getting stuff open and working again, refusing to look hurt or scared, refusing to panic.
Republican-style bipartisan negotiation and compromise
You mean like Hillary wanting to include MI & FL delegates against the decision of the DNC?
That kind of negotiation & compromise?
Whatevs |
01.26.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Macaroni has endorsed Edwards.
Culture of TrÜth
And the, uh, rubbah schwan is, uh, Romney's.
SteveLG |
01.26.08 - 10:05 pm | #
How old was Caroline Kennedy when her father died?
5? 6?
All she knows about him is what other people have told her and what she's read.
I lost my mother when I was younger than Caroline. But I still remember her warmth. And I miss her still.
My sister often tell me what she was like. And it gives me great comfort. It also is quite real. Their memories have become mine.
Shaw Kenawe |
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01.26.08 - 10:06 pm | #
Good point. She could have given a campaign speech - fucking free national advertising!!
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:02 pm | #
Her astute political sense will serve her well against the pukes.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
01.26.08 - 10:06 pm | #
Hey, that ass clown dude from Utah that was all over the news some time ago for selling videos with all the sex/bad words removed and the studios were trying to shut him down - remember him?
"Thompson, 31, and Isaac R. Lifferth, 24, were arrested in Orem this week on suspicion of having sex with two 14-year-old girls."
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:06 pm | #
On c-span2/BookTV
Chomsky, Noam Professor, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Linguistics
Interventions
Noam Chomsky talks about U.S. foreign policy and other matters at an event hosted by Back Pages Books in Waltham, Massachusetts. Professor Chomsky talked to Back Pages owner Alex Green and then took questions from audience members.
This is good writing. I am envious.
From calculated risk:
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Besides classic trolls, we have a few resident long-winded bores who believe that the rest of us have never been exposed to some trite, shallow, bombastic rant they just heard on the radio or read in Reader's Digest or saw in a vision, and feel compelled to share with the rest of us. These people lack any possible sense of context or audience; they are incapable of noticing that the bulk of our commenting community has been exposed to the world for a while now and is not interested in any comment that starts "there is one simple answer to this the rest of you aren't getting." It does you no good to respond to this type either; they'll just re-write the same comment again, at the same length, saying the same thing, until you "get it." They are bores with no self-awareness.
Neff, you have a link?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 10:08 pm | #
Still, HBK, I think Caroline is the sanest of the Kennedy's. And she rarely takes sides like this, so her endorsement is notable.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 10:08 pm | #
"You mean like Hillary wanting to include MI & FL delegates against the decision of the DNC?
That kind of negotiation & compromise?
Whatevs"
I think he means the voters obama wants to disenfranchise as get back for not voting for him. That would be the two states that have nore voters than the other early primary states combined. That would be the states everybody [with a brain] knows will be seated despite obama's willingness to cancel their votes.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:11 pm | #
Actually, JFK was not considered to be a particularly good president at the time. He was cautious on pushing civil rights, and he was a pretty dedicated cold warrior.
However, he kept cool head and was sane during the missile crisis - had Junior been in office at the time, all our asses would be radioactive. And he showed signs of growing in office and leading the country in a new direction, especially on Vietnam.
Like Reagan, his time in office has been obscurred by the legend that grew. In JFK's case it has provided a source of idealism and hope. In Reagan's, it has assisted an assault on the welfare of the country and the world.
sister of ye |
01.26.08 - 10:12 pm | #
That would be the states everybody [with a brain] knows will be seated despite obama's willingness to cancel their votes.
The booking documents state Thompson told the 14-year-olds that his film sanitizing business was a cover for a pornography studio. He asked the girls if they would participate in making a porn movie, but they refused, the documents state.
Police found a "large quantity" of pornographic movies inside the business, along with a keg of beer, painkillers and two cameras hooked up to a television. Thompson told police he didn't know the teenagers were under 18 or that they were paid for sex. He said pornography found at the business was for "personal use," according to the documents.
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Didja read the comments?
One of them remarked about how hard it is to read the comments here because of all the Frists and inside jokes.
flory |
01.26.08 - 10:13 pm | #
I wonder who Bob Kennedy Jr. will endorse? Ah his wouldn't be important anyway.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:13 pm | #
I liked Galaga
Gilly Gonzylon
There's a Galaga game in one of the arcade game emulation applications for facebook. But it looks like it won't play without a Java update that I can't seem to get to install on my Mac. Hmmmm....
Tralfaz |
01.26.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Kennedy is remembered in history as a great president. I'm sure he had his faults, just like Clinton wasn't the great liberal champion history seems destined to view him as.
My question is this: when JFK was running for president and nobody knew what kind of leader he was, how was he perceived? Just because Obama has a cult of personality around himself doesn't mean much in terms of how he'd end up doing as a president. I'm just wondering what kind of vibe JFK had during his election.
(And for the record, I think it's clear that Hillary is willing to engage in the sleaziest kind of politics necessary, a real LBJ-style of getting things done no matter the cost.)
puppethead |
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01.26.08 - 10:13 pm | #
My porn is for professional use. I have Citizen Kane for personal use.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:14 pm | #
That would be the states everybody [with a brain] knows will be seated despite obama's willingness to cancel their votes.
Didn't the party in those states sorta do that to themselves?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
01.26.08 - 10:14 pm | #
What we heard when that appeared on Fark the other day was that they paid that poor girl twenty dollars. Can you fucking imagine? Twenty dollars? They screwed that girl worse than they fucked her. They're not just self-righteous two-faced paraderainers, not just child-rapists, they're fucking cheap.
k&y,bunburies |
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01.26.08 - 10:14 pm | #
Don't forget that if it wasn't for Daley in Chicago and voting shenanigans in West Virginia JFK would have never been president.
That basically cancelled out Rethug vote fraud in other areas. That's why Nixon didn't push it - all the cheating might have come out.
sister of ye |
01.26.08 - 10:14 pm | #
Doug Watts | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Grand Old Perverts....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 10:14 pm | #
You missed it. Everybody is rushing out to buy their outfits for obama's presidential ball.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:15 pm | #
Oh - I met "the boyfriend" the other night, her first (she's 26). The first thing I said to him: "I own a baseball bat"
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:15 pm | #
I think he means the voters obama wants to disenfranchise as get back for not voting for him. [...]
hadenough | 01.26.08 - 10:11 pm | #
Wow. That is the most dishonest possible framing. The DNC asked the candidates not to participate. They all agreed. Obama and Edwards took their names off the ballot. Clinton did not, claiming "participation" was campaigning. Now, she wants to overrule the DNCs prior decision not to count delegates from those primaries. And you cast it as Obama seeking revenge? Wow.
rootless-e |
01.26.08 - 10:16 pm | #
Didja read the comments?One of them remarked about how hard it is to read the comments here because of all the Frists and inside jokes.
flory | 01.26.08 - 10:13 pm | #
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despite obama's willingness to cancel their votes.
hadenough
Oh brother. Is this where you claim Obama chose to stay on the ballot in Florida, or where claim a post quotes Clinton and Obama but one quotes Clinton and the other quotes some newspaper?
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 10:16 pm | #
Oh - I met "the boyfriend" the other night, her first (she's 26). The first thing I said to him: "I own a baseball bat"
I assume there was no need to mention the shovel leaning by the door.
JeffCO |
01.26.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Real professionally run grown-up prostitution is between $200-400/hr, and can skyrocket from there.
k&y,bunburies |
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01.26.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Oh - I met "the boyfriend" the other night, her first (she's 26). The first thing I said to him: "I own a baseball bat"
And how did he answer?
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 10:17 pm | #
My question is this: when JFK was running for president and nobody knew what kind of leader he was, how was he perceived? Just because Obama has a cult of personality around himself doesn't mean much in terms of how he'd end up doing as a president. I'm just wondering what kind of vibe JFK had during his election.
Much the same as Obama. JFK was young, sexy, inspiring and exciting to young people, and Jackie was va-va-voom.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Didn't the party in those states sorta do that to themselves?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
The option in Florida would have been to hold the Dem primary on a separate date, much later.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 10:18 pm | #
"Didn't the party in those states sorta do that to themselves?
Bjorn,a poor young country boi"
The dem voters didn't. The DNC fucked up. Hundreds of thousands of dem voters will not be shut out of the convention. Won't happen.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:18 pm | #
Didja read the comments?One of them remarked about how hard it is to read the comments here because of all the Frists and inside jokes.
Eli must be stopped from referring to pantslessness and no more bacon for Thers till he learns to be more inclusive.
JeffCO |
01.26.08 - 10:18 pm | #
The first thing I said to him: "I own a baseball bat"
Yeah, but it's your first at bat.
Oh - I met "the boyfriend" the other night, her first
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:18 pm | #
Echidne:
"I'm sure you do."
He had a Jim Morrison button on his khaki coat so I let him live.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:19 pm | #
Gregoire is going to lose, unfortunately.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
huh? if you mean incumbent gov of WA, i would think she'll win unless she makes toll roads the focus of her campaign.
notaboomer |
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01.26.08 - 10:19 pm | #
Actually, JFK was not considered to be a particularly good president at the time. He was cautious on pushing civil rights, and he was a pretty dedicated cold warrior.
On the other hand he introduced the Civil Rights Act and signed the Limited Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
With the changes he was trying to make -- ending oil depletion allowance and other policies considered "anti-business", he definitely was putting stuff off for the second term and having to nudge along an electorate schooled in the Cold War and wage delicate behind-scenes battles with entrenched power bases in Washington.
I came to politcal consciousness under Kennedy so my idea of a president is one who educates and inspires. I think his daughter may be seeing some of that in Obama when she says he's a candidate like her dad.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 10:19 pm | #
Jackie was va-va-voom.
Well really, who *doesn't* look goodin a leopard-skin pillbox hat?
JeffCO |
01.26.08 - 10:19 pm | #
my brother, who's in federal LE, plans to have a few buddies over, all "tac'd out" cleaning their M4s when his daughter gets picked up for the first time
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 10:19 pm | #
I've seen that several places.
V for Virginia
I saw it frist ...
focus |
01.26.08 - 10:19 pm | #
"Oh brother. Is this where you claim Obama chose to stay on the ballot in Florida, or where claim a post quotes Clinton and Obama but one quotes Clinton and the other quotes some newspaper?
Culture of TrÜth"
I don't claim it. He did. And yes that's me always claiming. And there's you the truth detector.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:20 pm | #
Chomsky actually has a couple of weaknesses but none are the things
he's attacked for regularly and regardless of responses, such as the
idea that he's a Holocaust denier or a supporter of Pol Pot. It is
truly enlightening to see him hide that pompous Bill whasisface on the
two-part debate about Vietnam on YouTube.
k&y,bunburies |
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01.26.08 - 10:20 pm | #
He had a Jim Morrison button on his khaki coat so I let him live.
He may think he's the lizard king and can therefore do anything.
JeffCO |
01.26.08 - 10:20 pm | #
my brother, who's in federal LE, plans to have a few buddies over, all "tac'd out" cleaning their M4s when his daughter gets picked up for the first time
::matthew | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:19 pm | #
I'm sure she'll love that.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 10:21 pm | #
my brother, who's in federal LE, plans to have a few buddies over, all "tac'd out" cleaning their M4s when his daughter gets picked up for the first time
Now that could actually work. "Have her back on time. Don't make us come looking for you."
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:21 pm | #
huh? if you mean incumbent gov of WA, i would think she'll win unless she makes toll roads the focus of her campaign.
notaboomer
The $7 toll (not a tax!) on 520 probably cost her King County.
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 10:21 pm | #
Kennedy established the Peace Corps, signed the Partial Test Ban Treaty and sent us to the moon. Those three things alone are pretty good accomplishments.
Neponset |
01.26.08 - 10:21 pm | #
I [fart] am also [smell] disturbed by the lack of [armpit fart sound] weightiness here. [poopy joke that goes nowhere]
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 10:22 pm | #
If AP says "Clinton campaign strategists," who would they mean? There can't be that many "strategists" in a campaign--so who?
Who would be that stupid?
jawbone
David Espo and Charles Babington who kept selves onwire payroll with updates on the GOP putting Gay Voting on the 2004 state ballots...
...so insightful of them to say anonymous Clintons are race bating.
Nice of you to repeat it for them as well...
Mr.Murder |
01.26.08 - 10:22 pm | #
Only important in a symbolic way, but JFK also started the Peace Corps, didn't he?
Karin |
01.26.08 - 10:22 pm | #
Actually, Florida does not let you remove your name from the ballot unless you drop out of the race in every state.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:23 pm | #
Didja read the comments?One of them remarked about how hard it is to read the comments here because of all the Frists and inside jokes.
flory | 01.26.08 - 10:13 pm | #
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It is generally true. I've struggled at times to follow the thread (I am a little dense, however.) And if you are an outsider, or piss off the regulars, they tend to freeze you out.
Shared Humanity |
01.26.08 - 10:23 pm | #
Yes, I forgot about the space program under Kennedy.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 10:23 pm | #
Actually, Florida does not let you remove your name from the ballot unless you drop out of the race in every state.
Snow
I'm pretty sure the whole bunch was on there when I early voted
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 10:24 pm | #
Kennedy was careless and damaging at first, but learned quickly, and demonstrated a new paradigm that terrified the cold warriors in the mold of Truman: he was willing to actually make deals, back down from crazy MacArthurish cliffs and deal with the Soviets rather than just constantly attack them hoping for a real but winnable war.
k&y,bunburies |
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01.26.08 - 10:24 pm | #
Well really, who *doesn't* look goodin a leopard-skin pillbox hat?
JeffCO | 01.26.08 - 10:19 pm | #
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That's crap, I posted the proof you demanded last night and I'm not going to bother again. You are not an honest poster anyway.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 10:24 pm | #
A win for the picket crossers...
Mr.Murder |
01.26.08 - 10:24 pm | #
I've seen that several places.
V for Virginia
So we're having an ongoing conversation around here. What's so difficult to understand about that?
flory |
01.26.08 - 10:24 pm | #
"If AP says "Clinton campaign strategists," who would they mean? There can't be that many "strategists" in a campaign--so who?
Don't forget that if it wasn't for Daley in Chicago and voting shenanigans in West Virginia JFK would have never been president.
That basically cancelled out Rethug vote fraud in other areas. That's why Nixon didn't push it - all the cheating might have come out.
sister of ye | 01.26.08 - 10:14 pm | #
Yep.
And as a former Chicagoan I'd like to point out that there was a lot of voter fraud in Texas in 1960 as well.
I know Daley gets all the credit, but ...
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.26.08 - 10:25 pm | #
What Kennedy really brought was this totally different approach and view of things, which was instantly recognized and loved all over the world.
k&y,bunburies |
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01.26.08 - 10:25 pm | #
Unlike the current occupant who seems to want to bomb everybody, and thinks diplomacy is for fags...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 10:26 pm | #
Jackie was quite Stepford-wivish, though, when she was the First Lady. At least she sounds like that on the videos I've seen, with the sort of out-of-breath little girl voice and indirect language.
But the times were quite different then and she changed later.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:26 pm | #
Sese Seko Mobutu ?
That's not a pillbox.
JeffCO |
01.26.08 - 10:26 pm | #
JFK was running for president and nobody knew what kind of leader he was, how was he perceived?
I remember listening to my dad at the time. He disliked Kennedy, hated his dad, thought he was a typical sell-out politician with mob connections to boot. I'd say my dad was a wee bit more radical than Kennedy.
On the other side, conservatives and other religious bigots were pushing the hysterics of "the pope will be coming over to take over America!"
As I recall when reading back, the press seemed to like him because he was dynamic and his wife was hot.
Essentially, his actual good and bad points have been lost in The Legend, which has had far more influence than his reality has.
sister of ye |
01.26.08 - 10:26 pm | #
You missed it. Everybody is rushing out to buy their outfits for obama's presidential ball.
hadenough | 01.26.08 - 10:15 pm | #
I prefer Obama but have to agree with the sentiment. February 5th will likely dash the hopes of those audacious supporters.
Shared Humanity |
01.26.08 - 10:26 pm | #
So we're having an ongoing conversation around here. What's so difficult to understand about that?
It's not like [insert name of favorite blog upon which all blogs should be modeled.].
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:26 pm | #
That basically cancelled out Rethug vote fraud in other areas. That's why Nixon didn't push it - all the cheating might have come out.
sister of ye | 01.26.08 - 10:14 pm | #
Democrats used to play hardball with Republicans - and win.
rootless-e |
01.26.08 - 10:26 pm | #
ike and his joint chiefs drafted a plan to bomb miami and blame it on the cubans...what if nixon had been next in line?
::matthew |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:27 pm | #
"That's crap, I posted the proof you demanded last night and I'm not going to bother again. You are not an honest poster anyway.
Culture of TrÜth"
You are telling me obama is not on the FL ballot? Is that what you are saying? Cause that's what I'm claiming.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:27 pm | #
JeffCO:
Hadn't thought of that. And now, he must die.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:27 pm | #
rootless-e | 01.26.08 - 10:26 pm | #
They stopped that because it was too partisan.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 10:27 pm | #
It is generally true. I've struggled at times to follow the thread (I am a little dense, however.) And if you are an outsider, or piss off the regulars, they tend to freeze you out.
Shared Humanity | 01.26.08 - 10:23 pm | #
--
I'm pretty sure this blues song doesn't have the words I hear: Don't mind people grinning at your feet.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:28 pm | #
Don't forget that if it wasn't for Daley in Chicago and voting shenanigans in West Virginia JFK would have never been president.
This is debatable. Nixon pursued a recount in Illinois until he determined it wouldn't make a difference in the outcome.
Meanwhile, in Hawaii, Kennedy did demand a recount and the state flipped to him.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 10:28 pm | #
Would anyone but Kennedy have gone after the mob?
k&y,bunburies |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:28 pm | #
Democrats used to play hardball with Republicans - and win.
But then after the Civil Rights Act, they all joined the Republican Party.
Avedon |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:28 pm | #
But the times were quite different then and she changed later.
Echidne
She was thirty one and alla sudden found herself the center of attention from that newfangled teevee thingy.
Sheltered upper class girl like her was prolly scared shitless at first.
flory |
01.26.08 - 10:29 pm | #
Kennedy also sent the 82nd Airborne to Oxford to remind us who's boss, a clarity I appreciate.
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QuentinCompson |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:30 pm | #
he $7 toll (not a tax!) on 520 probably cost her King County.
Don't mind women calling you Pete ?
Doug Watts |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:30 pm | #
Sorry. It's not intentional.
I was saying Boo-urns.
JeffCO |
01.26.08 - 10:31 pm | #
Actually no. Kennedy had 303 electoral votes. If Illinois and it's 27 electoral votes went for Nixon, Kennedy would still have won with 276.
Another republic myth destroyed. Nixon plain old lost and they need to get over it.
TheOtherWA |
01.26.08 - 10:31 pm | #
i say it's high time for obama to roll out the centerpiece of his platform to curb carbon emissions: tax credits for hemp farmers!
notaboomer |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:31 pm | #
FYI, Quadrophenia is on FLIX right now.
Chris Tucker |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:31 pm | #
Only important in a symbolic way, but JFK also started the Peace Corps, didn't he?
Karin
For the CIA, as a way to put agents on the ground around the world.
puppethead |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:31 pm | #
It is generally true. I've struggled at times to follow the thread (I am a little dense, however.) And if you are an outsider, or piss off the regulars, they tend to freeze you out.
Shared Humanity | 01.26.08 - 10:23 pm | #
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As a former president, Bill campaigning for his wife is unfair and a perversion of the political process.
I learned that on dkos.
Richard |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:32 pm | #
You are not honest because I have already explained to you that he cannot withdraw his name.
BTW, did you claim a post quoted Clinton and Obama when in fact one quoted Clinton and the other quoted some newspaper?
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:33 pm | #
Another republic myth destroyed. Nixon plain old lost and they need to get over it.
TheOtherWA
They stopped that because it was too partisan.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 01.26.08 - 10:27 pm | #
God knows, we can't have that.
rootless-e |
01.26.08 - 10:34 pm | #
"BTW, did you claim a post quoted Clinton and Obama when in fact one quoted Clinton and the other quoted some newspaper?
Culture of TrÜth"
I don't which comment you are talking about. But if that was the case I'd certianly correct it.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:34 pm | #
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:31 pm | #
I like that film because the accents are so thick. I can understand the Cockney, East End accent very well.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 10:34 pm | #
If it wasn't for me Kennedy would have lost, the '27 Yankees would have lost, Lindbergh would have gotten lost (though Earhart would have been found) and the people on Lost would likely remain lost.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:34 pm | #
Kennedy definitely did some good things, and was indeed growing in office. I just wanted to point out that his reality was a mised bag. His assassination mostly dropped the bad things out of memory.
The space race was wondrous and produced a lot of technological benefits. Keep in mind, however, that it's roots lay in cold war competition, and its purpose was at least as much military as scientific.
sister of ye |
01.26.08 - 10:34 pm | #
The Kids Are Alright was on TCM last night. Which I guess doesn't help you now.
JeffCO | 01.26.08 - 10:34 pm | #
Fortunately, there's been movement to the Left
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 10:35 pm | #
NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT HERE
Satellite could plummet to Earth
No details of the satellite were given
A "large" US spy satellite has gone out of control and is expected to crash to Earth some time in late February or March, government sources say.
Officials speaking on condition of anonymity said the satellite had lost power and propulsion, and could contain hazardous materials.
The White House said it was monitoring the situation.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:35 pm | #
We have quality here - we have puns, recipes and occasionally very funny and/or wise political commentary.
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 10:35 pm | #
LSD LBJ
FBI CIA
FBI CIA
LSD LBJ
You just gave me a flashback.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 10:35 pm | #
I'm pretty sure the whole bunch was on there when I early voted
They remained on the ballot after the deadline because Bill Nelson and others filed suit against the DNC, which they eventually lost.
For Hillary's camp to talk about Florida as if it's being conducted under the same conditions as the other primaries is just stupid.
I really don't have a dog in this fight, but in tactical terms, this has been a rotten week for the Clinton campaign. They've just set themselves up for being included in a 'repudiate Bush and everything that preceded it' message.
pseudonymous in nc |
01.26.08 - 10:35 pm | #
For the CIA, as a way to put agents on the ground around the world.
Peace Corps might be a prime hunting ground for assets, but it would be poor cover for an agent.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:35 pm | #
Volume! That's our advantage.
V for Virginia | 01.26.08 - 10:32 pm | #
Lose money on each item and make it up in volume.
rootless-e |
01.26.08 - 10:35 pm | #
If it wasn't for me Kennedy would have lost, the '27 Yankees would have lost, Lindbergh would have gotten lost (though Earhart would have been found) and the people on Lost would likely remain lost.
My candidate is the messiah. Your candidate sucks.
Richard |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:36 pm | #
So when are these primary shits over?
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:36 pm | #
How 'bout that failed Hillary presidency?
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QuentinCompson |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:37 pm | #
If it wasn't for me Kennedy would have lost, the '27 Yankees would have lost, Lindbergh would have gotten lost (though Earhart would have been found) and the people on Lost would likely remain lost.
Are you a Stonecutter?
Sweet Sue |
01.26.08 - 10:37 pm | #
It is generally true. I've struggled at times to follow the thread (I am a little dense, however.) And if you are an outsider, or piss off the regulars, they tend to freeze you out.
Shared Humanity
Nobody's trying to freeze anybody out. But this has been an ongoing conversation for five years now. You can't expect to wander in and jump right in. Takes time to understand the culture and the crosscurrents. No different than being the new kid at school really.
flory |
01.26.08 - 10:37 pm | #
USAID is a CIA front. The Peace Corps is highly questionable, but we were once told by a totally biased source literally sleeping with the Company that
the separation oof Peace Corps and CIA was real, respected, and that the CIA would not hire PC former volunteers. Missionaries are such totally compromised actors that we would execute and ban them.
GOP Upbeat on Terror-Trial Bill (Charles Babington and Jonathan Weisman, September 23, 2006)
That worked out great for Rove, THE MATH stenographers helped as well.
So Babington says a Clinton staffer said that?
Mr.Murder |
01.26.08 - 10:39 pm | #
We have quality here - we have puns, recipes and occasionally very funny and/or wise political commentary.
That, and we are flippant assholes.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:39 pm | #
Stonecutters cut it on stone
Woodpeckers peck it on wood
There's nothin' so bad for a woman
As a man who thinks he's good!
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:40 pm | #
Kennedy is loved by dems and repubs alike because he was an Archetypal president. Good looking, tall, well spoken, pretty wife, 2 kids. Heroic goals - put a man on the moon by the end of the decade.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 10:40 pm | #
A business lawyer would make a poor game show host. Sorry.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:41 pm | #
Kennedy is loved by dems and repubs alike because he was an Archetypal president. Good looking, tall, well spoken, pretty wife, 2 kids. Heroic goals - put a man on the moon by the end of the decade.
Gilly Gonzylon
I still shed tears every November 22.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:41 pm | #
International business lawyers, that'd be good cover for an agent.
Ambassador's wife used to work...
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:41 pm | #
All the neighbours covet Neff
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:42 pm | #
And if you are an outsider, or piss off the regulars, they tend to freeze you out.
I don't see freezing out too much, but I do see way too much use of shouting down as a tactic around here. Berating people in the hopes that they shut up and stop verbalizing their disagreement.
Richard |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:42 pm | #
That, and we are flippant assholes.
I generally put it - I hang out in the rowdy part of the liberal blogosphere. But your phrase sums it up pretty good.
sister of ye |
01.26.08 - 10:42 pm | #
From slashdot:
None of the coverage speculates on how big the satellite is, but Wikipedia claims that US spy satellites in the KH-11 class, launched up to the mid-90s, are about the size of the Hubble — which is 13 meters long and weighs over 11,000 kg.
puppethead |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:42 pm | #
We have quality here - we have puns, recipes and occasionally very funny and/or wise political commentary.
Goddesses and witches too. We got more of those per capita than any other blog.
flory |
01.26.08 - 10:42 pm | #
"For Hillary's camp to talk about Florida as if it's being conducted under the same conditions as the other primaries is just stupid.
pseudonymous in nc"
Didn't happen. Of course you could prove me wrong.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:42 pm | #
A business lawyer would make a poor game show host. Sorry.
Just because he would find some clause that would make the potential winner ineligible?
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:43 pm | #
Pat Buchanan is shaking in his boots. He keeps saying Obama is angry and digging at the Clintons in his speech when he says we're up against the kind of politics where it's okay to say anything to get elected.
I didn't hear that at pointed at the Clintons, but at the way politics have been played for far to long by just about everyone.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 10:43 pm | #
No to mention advice from licensed sykiatrists!
Karin
AND wannabes -- even better!
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 10:43 pm | #
But then after the Civil Rights Act, they all joined the Republican Party.
Avedon | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:28 pm | #
I don't think you are seeing the big picture. They were not unreasonable.
rootless-e |
01.26.08 - 10:43 pm | #
I thought we were silly sphincters
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 10:41 pm | #
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But if that was the case I'd certianly correct it.
Like hell you would. But you could start by correcting your statements about Obama/Edwards and Florida.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:44 pm | #
Anyway, I encourage all lurkers just to dive in. The water is warm! And NTodd is not here so nobody has peed in it.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:44 pm | #
"Pat Buchanan is shaking in his boots"
Well it looks like a nice shawl and wheel chair at happy acres for Pat if the Dems steamroll the Repubicans.
EkCenTriK |
01.26.08 - 10:44 pm | #
No, Drew Carey is a poor game show host....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
What percentage of the American public thinks he has a game show?
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:45 pm | #
In the movie Cloverfield, once the face of the Statue of Liberty lands on a street, it is immediately photographed by vapid people with their stupid camera phones.
k&y,bunburies |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:45 pm | #
Hecate turned me into a newt
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
I like a dry wit; that's why I once married a woman named named Sherry
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:45 pm | #
but I do see way too much use of shouting down as a tactic around here. Berating people in the hopes that they shut up and stop verbalizing their disagreement.
Richard | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:42 pm | #
Probably very small. Watched around 10 minutes the other day, and man, he was lethargic. Made Barker look like an artist.
I don't know what that has to do with the SC primary, but....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Who ARE all these lurkers, other than our NSA minder who shuts us down every so often for bathroom breaks, and, evidently, laundry?
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Barack n Roll ?
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 10:46 pm | #
No, Drew Carey is a poor game show host....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Maybe he needs to sexually harrass the women on his show.
Like his predecessor did?
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:46 pm | #
The water is warm! And NTodd is not here so nobody has peed in it.
Echidne
Well it looks like a nice shawl and wheel chair at happy acres for Pat if the Dems steamroll the Repubicans.
EkCenTriK
Oh, wouldn't that be lovely? I've been listening to that crank since Nixon's days.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 10:47 pm | #
The 89 visitors online include all people reading any Atrios comments threads so there are probably not that many lurkers on any one thread.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:47 pm | #
I am a lurker. People here usually don't like it when lurkers post.
dddd |
01.26.08 - 10:47 pm | #
Give Drew a break, wouldn't you be lethargic too if you had to do that kind of thing every day for a living? I don't know how much money it would take for me to sign me life away and do it for years.
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 10:47 pm | #
Anyway, I encourage all lurkers just to dive in. The water is warm! And NTodd is not here so nobody has peed in it.
Echidne
[pulls out tropical fish tank pH kit to check the water, just to make sure]
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Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:47 pm | #
Today on the Teevee I learned there is a celebrity named Brit-knee or something and another celebrity who died or something. Dang I feel so edified.
Philo T. Farnsworth |
01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
man, Bill Clinton a racist. I still can’t wrap my head around it ...
focus |
01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
I like a dry wit; that's why I once married a woman named named Sherry
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 10:45 pm | #
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Like his predecessor did?
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:46 pm | #
Richard Dawson? The was a rumor floating around that he was Billy Idol's father.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
In the movie Cloverfield, once the face of the Statue of Liberty lands on a street, it is immediately photographed by vapid people with their stupid camera phones.
k&y,bunburies | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:45 pm | #
Is that movie any good? The trailers look kinda cheesy, and the hand-held camera reminds me (in a bad way) of Blair Witch Project.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
Kevin Drum:
I just got back from a house party where the guy who
founded the Irvine Housing Blog told me that, yes indeed,
they get a huge spike in traffic every time Atrios links
to them. IHB performs the valuable public service of
exposing the soft underbelly of the housing bubble, and
you should check it out if you want to have your opinion of
yuppie strivers lowered even further than it probably already is.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
I am a lurker. People here usually don't like it when lurkers post.
Welcome, lurker. Have some of this very excellent halva I'm drinking.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
I am a lurker. People here usually don't like it when lurkers post.
That's ridiculous.
Post away! I, for one, love to hear from lurkers.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
every day
several times a day: they do those shows one after another: not one a day.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:49 pm | #
Like his predecessor did?
Terry C - Edwards 2008
Richard Dawson? The was a rumor floating around that he was Billy Idol's father.
Gilly Gonzylon
No, Bob Barker.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:49 pm | #
Just because he would find some clause that would make the potential winner ineligible?
Actually, we enjoy lurkers who join us.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:49 pm | #
dddd - new posters are fine as long as they say something pithy, funny, kind or insightful. if they just throw out a baseless claim or act pissy they are in trouble here. we have a good and honorable tradition here of asking for citations/links to support things that aren't widely known and that makes this a quality blog, when we're not just all being pissy...
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 10:49 pm | #
We haz teh ringwurm ...
Lurkers |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:49 pm | #
Boy, Pat Buchanan is loony.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:49 pm | #
We haz teh ringwurm ...
No, that's Angel. The dog that Auntie might adopt to go with Arthur. All those As.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:50 pm | #
I am a lurker. People here usually don't like it when lurkers post.
I don't think that's true. It's just that we have so many incredibly stupid trolls that some people get wary when they see a new name.
I will grant it's a bit scary making your first comment. But we all went thru it and survived.
sister of ye |
01.26.08 - 10:50 pm | #
I am a lurker. People here usually don't like it when lurkers post.
dddd
If Obama said 'say anything to get elected' it was definitely aimed at Clintonland. He's a sore winner, but he has the MSM narrative down pat.
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QuentinCompson |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:50 pm | #
I am a lurker. People here usually don't like it when lurkers post.
dddd
I simply do not think this is true. When people contribute interesting or funny things in the vein of the thread, I certainly appreciate it. I don't always respond to it, but that's not because it's someone I haven't seen before.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 10:51 pm | #
dddd - new posters are fine as long as they say something pithy, funny, kind or insightful.
Oh, I think that's setting the bar way too high.
Lurkers should feel like they have to say something hilarious or brilliant to join in.
God knows the regulars (me included) say plenty of perfectly inane things.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:51 pm | #
Blair Witch Project.
Barbarism Begins at Home | 01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
The most overrated piece of shit ever...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 10:51 pm | #
That reminds me - I am putting together a new game show called "Who Wants To Be A Pundit?"
Whoever gets away with the largest unfounded opinion gets to ask Pelosi or Reid to kick a football.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:51 pm | #
good song but sometimes people (for whatever reason) want to have their brains eatin
Syd B / Go Edwards |
01.26.08 - 10:51 pm | #
Halva has pistachios in it, says Wikepedia. How do you drink it without choking?
I cut it with tequila. Learned that today here on the threads.
It's a feeble attempt at a joke, really. I eat it. It's very good, I forgot just how good it is.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:51 pm | #
He was great on Hogan's Heroes!
Barbarism Begins at Home | 01.26.08 - 10:50 pm | #
Billy Idol was on Hogan's Heroes?
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 10:51 pm | #
Pat Buchanan is going to the mat for the Clintons. Hysterical.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 10:52 pm | #
I'll say anything to get laid, but not elected. To get elected, I'll say most anything.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:52 pm | #
Who ARE all these lurkers, other than our NSA minder who shuts us down every so often for bathroom breaks, and, evidently, laundry?
TEBB
Agents of the Great Orange Satan....?
flory
The people who go to other blogs and discuss how trivial the threads here are?
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 10:52 pm | #
Doing a game show every day does become tiresome, but Drew knew what he was getting into.
The first 30 years fly by.
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:52 pm | #
Would you drink Halva?
k&y,bunburies |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:52 pm | #
I'll tell you what DOES piss me off though.
It's when CoT does not put up regular pictures of Tiger.
BUY THAT FUCKING CAMERA AND GET WITH IT DOOD.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:52 pm | #
I like a dry wit; that's why I once married a woman named named Sherry
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 10:45 pm | #
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Portly ?
Doug Watts
I heard she wuz winey....
flory |
01.26.08 - 10:52 pm | #
I love how anti republican Larry David is on his show.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 10:52 pm | #
Echidne - I think she uses all those "A" names so her dogs will be first in everything at school! Wish my folks had thought of that before they named me Zelda.....
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 10:53 pm | #
The 89 visitors online include all people reading any Atrios comments threads so there are probably not that many lurkers on any one thread.
Echidne | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:47 pm | #
That's true but it has been my experience that threads die very quickly when new threads are posted.
And TKK cheats but I'm too dense to figure out how.
Shared Humanity |
01.26.08 - 10:53 pm | #
new posters are fine as long as they say something pithy, funny, kind or insightful.
or mention me
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:53 pm | #
Cloverfield is worth a drunken viewing in the theatres but it'll look like shit on a small TV.
k&y,bunburies |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:53 pm | #
TEBB, I know that most of the people here are pithy, funny, kind or insightful. That's why I lurk!
dddd |
01.26.08 - 10:53 pm | #
Didn't happen. Of course you could prove me wrong.
Then Wolfson says this: "Regardless of today’s outcome, the race quickly shifts to Florida, where hundreds of thousands of Democrats will turn out to vote on Tuesday. Despite efforts by the Obama campaign to ignore Floridians, their voices will be heard loud and clear across the country, as the last state to vote before Super Tuesday on February 5th. This remains a delegate fight, with 1,681 delegates at stake on February 5th, and 2,025 needed to secure the nomination -- and we are ahead in that fight."
I just got home. Gimme a minute.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
I like a dry wit; that's why I once married a woman named named Sherry
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 10:45 pm | #
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Portly ?
Doug Watts
I heard she wuz winey....
flory
Sounds like sour grapes.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
you think?
Yes indeed. Deciding that everyone better listen to your righteous wisdom or shut the fuck up isn't exactly conducive to healthy debate.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
You don't have to say anything brilliant or funny (we already have those covered ). Just say whatever, but be prepared to be drawn and quartered if it's nasty. And be prepared not to get direct responses to most comments you make. The majority of mine float straight down the Great Toilet.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
Larry David and Cady Huffman - hilarious
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
The most overrated piece of shit ever... -Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
uh, let's wait till November ...
lurker no more |
01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
TEBB, I know that most of the people here are pithy, funny, kind or insightful. That's why I lurk!
dddd
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and nTodd didn't scare you off?
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
...I do so wish that Keith O would walk onto the MSNBC set right now and start slapping around Joe and Pat...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
If Obama said 'say anything to get elected' it was definitely aimed at Clintonland. He's a sore winner, but he has the MSM narrative down pat.
Oh, nonsense. He's been talking about the need to transform the way politics is done for years. The way wedge politics have been undermining our progress has been a major theme of his.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 10:54 pm | #
Deciding that everyone better listen to your righteous wisdom or shut the fuck up isn't exactly conducive to healthy debate.
That's it, cut his mic.
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.26.08 - 10:55 pm | #
God knows the regulars (me included) say plenty of perfectly inane things.
You could come here and say 'goo goo gaa gaa" if you want, you've got the most gorgeous cat photos on the internetz.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 10:55 pm | #
man, Bill Clinton a racist. I still can’t wrap my head around it ...
focus | 01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
focus - don't you worry none - this primary season will be over and we liberals can go back to our warm and apologetic embrace of bill clinton...
Syd B / Go Edwards |
01.26.08 - 10:55 pm | #
What's the under/over on when Buchanan drops the n-bomb?
pseudonymous in nc |
01.26.08 - 10:55 pm | #
"Like hell you would. But you could start by correcting your statements about Obama/Edwards and Florida.
Culture of TrÜth"
Like hell I would. That wouldn't stop a creep like you from running around posting your trash. And now I'll correct your record on obama and edwards: They are both on the ballot in FL
Even more:
obama has broken his pledge not to advertise or campaign in FL.
Obama also appeared to violate a pledge he and the other leading candidates took by holding a brief news conference outside the fundraiser. That was less than a day after the pledge took effect Saturday, and Obama is the first Democratic presidential candidate to visit Florida since then.
Obama and others have pledged not to campaign in Florida until the Jan. 29 primary except for fundraising, which is what he was doing in Tampa.
But after the fundraiser at the Hyde Park home of Tom and Linda Scarritt, Obama crossed the street to take half a dozen questions from reporters waiting there. http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007.../?news-
breaking
another interesting bit:
"TAMPA - Barack Obama hinted during a Tampa fundraiser Sunday that if he's the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, he'll seat a Florida delegation at the party's national convention, despite national party sanctions prohibiting it."
Not an obama quote. And of course I didn't say it was.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 10:56 pm | #
I posted after about 4 - 5 months of lurking: I was petrified. Now I have a book deal.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:56 pm | #
The majority of mine float straight down the Great Toilet.
Echidne
Wonder what that would be like . . .
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 10:56 pm | #
Larry David and Cady Huffman - hilarious
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 10:54 pm
"What's that picture of George W Bush doing on your vanity table?"
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 10:56 pm | #
Of course lurkers are welcome. Have something to say besides reichwing talking points, and you'll be fine.
By all means, participate in the conversation.
TheOtherWA |
01.26.08 - 10:58 pm | #
Sour Grapes - directed by Larry David. See, all comments have a sixth degree of separation
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 10:58 pm | #
You could come here and say 'goo goo gaa gaa" if you want, you've got the most gorgeous cat photos on the internetz.
Well, dis is true.
And that, dear lurkers, is a delightful example of a comment of sparkling intelligence and wit.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 10:58 pm | #
TKK stands for some horribly dirty sex act that Dan Savage made up.
k&y,bunburies |
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01.26.08 - 10:58 pm | #
I posted after about 4 - 5 months of lurking: I was petrified. Now I have a book deal.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
Shit, man, I guess I should have tried lurking longer...
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 10:58 pm | #
"We are looking at potential options to mitigate any possible damage this satellite may cause," said Gordon Johndroe, who speaks for the US National Security Council.
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Sour Grapes - directed by Larry David.
And a movie deal too?!
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Sometimes things just get lost because they don't fit the prevailing mood... there are people whose comments nearly always get play, but that tends to be because of the personal relationships built up over the years-- quite a few of the regular commenters have 'real world' friendships-- and you can't (or at least I don't) *expect* to be part of that...
nick carraway |
01.26.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Spy satellite stuff.
Name: USA 193 Daniel.
Type: KH12a
Solar panels failed to unfold on orbit.
Batteries died within hours. Now it's just a lump of metal and glass.
A $800,000,000 to $1,200,000,000 loss.
shawk |
01.26.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Isn't Larry David the retarded black asshole who's like an Oreo colleague of
Armstrong Williams and Steadman? Or was that Larry Elder?
Anyhoo, I'm glad Obama won, and I'm glad he didn't just win with the black vote, but the over the top Clinton hatred gets on my nerves.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:01 pm | #
"We are looking at potential options to mitigate any possible damage this satellite may cause," said Gordon Johndroe, who speaks for the US National Security Council.
Darryl, skywatcher | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Why do I get more worried the more I hear about this satellite thing? The doublespeak is even more rampant than usual when they talk about it. I know it's classified and all, but could there be more to it than meets the eye?
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 11:01 pm | #
Isn't Larry David the retarded black asshole who's like an Oreo colleague of
Armstrong Williams and Steadman? Or was that Larry Elder?
k&y,bunburies
Larry Elder.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:01 pm | #
U didn't get the email?
I never get the damn emails!
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:01 pm | #
MSNBC people are talking about Hispanic voters. I never knew that Hispanic people and African Americans were at odds. I guess I have a lot to learn about animosity.
dddd |
01.26.08 - 11:01 pm | #
Oh, nonsense. He's been talking about the need to transform
Not nonsense. Sure he talks reform and I'm all for his visions, but that 'say anything' meme is repeating abundantly lately - out of the mouth of Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Wolf Blitzer, Sean Hannity, Tim Russert, numerous Obama surrogates, etc. and I recognize that as the Mighty Wurlitzer at work, which unfortunately is not nonsense, respectfully.
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QuentinCompson |
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01.26.08 - 11:01 pm | #
I have discovered that book deals are easy: I am one for one. And I think I may hold the Jack Cafferty record: three in one show.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:02 pm | #
the over the top Clinton hatred gets on my nerves.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Mine, too.
From BOTH sides.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:02 pm | #
this primary season will be over and we liberals can go back to our warm and apologetic embrace of bill clinton... -Syd B / Go Edwards
sure the Media will finally get its “pound of penis” and a President McCain to boot but most important it gets what it failed at before the destruction of one of our finest presidents (and believe it or not - a human)
focus |
01.26.08 - 11:02 pm | #
What's the under/over on when Buchanan drops the n-bomb?
And they've got his right arm strapped down to the chair arm.
Karin
Eschaton readers dig me because I rarely wear underwear, and when I do it's usually something unusual.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:02 pm | #
ten tons of failure....
Darryl, skywatcher | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:01 pm | #
May it land on GWB.
Shared Humanity |
01.26.08 - 11:02 pm | #
U bought a new comforter just for teh kittehs?
Awfully nice of u....
No, iz for me, but of course Ripley thinks everything is for her.
My mom bought me a shirt at Kohls, so I had to drive out to the dreaded burbs to return it.
They had down comforters on sale 1/2 price, and I got a summer weight one, which I've been looking for anyhoo.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Best headline since "Coward is Hero"
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.26.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Tralfaz -- I'd play a game but I won't be awake much longer.
Soon, though!
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Blair Witch Project.
Barbarism Begins at Home | 01.26.08 - 10:48 pm | #
The most overrated piece of shit ever...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 01.26.08 - 10:51 pm |
That, and Tears of Endearment.
With Blair Witch I was yelling at the screen: You're in a state park! In Maryland! Pick a direction and follow it, you'll run into civilization.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.26.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Eschaton readers dig me because I rarely wear underwear, and when I do it's usually something unusual.
Richard | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:02 pm | #
...an uncontrolled re-entry could risk exposure of U.S. secrets, said John Pike, a defense and intelligence expert. Spy satellites typically are disposed of through a controlled re-entry into the ocean so that no one else can access the spacecraft.
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:03 pm | #
No way McCain wins. When this becomes one on one he will become Grandpa Where Am I in about a week.
He will not win.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:04 pm | #
You'd be surpised how close i am.
You should come back to visit and we could hang out with David Rees and Rachel Maddow.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 11:04 pm | #
One time I came to Eschaton with my girlblog and this big bully kicked sand in my face. So that's when I said, "Okay, Mr. Thers, I'm willing to gamble a quarter and get your book !!!
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 11:04 pm | #
Eschaton readers dig me because I rarely wear underwear, and when I do it's usually something unusual.
Richard
U wear pantz. How would we ever know?
flory |
01.26.08 - 11:04 pm | #
I never knew that Hispanic people and African Americans were at odds. I guess I have a lot to learn about animosity.
I think that's just the MSM trying to find something, anything, to hang their "TEH DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS FRACTURING!!" meme on.
Night all, gonna spend some time with my kids. May all Republicans have a fitful, dream filled sleep that leaves them unrefreshed in the morning.
Shared Humanity |
01.26.08 - 11:04 pm | #
MSNBC people are talking about Hispanic voters. I never knew that Hispanic people and African Americans were at odds. I guess I have a lot to learn about animosity.
That should be Chomsky's next book title: The Manufacture of Mistrust
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:05 pm | #
He will not win.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 11:04 pm | #
We can only hope.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 11:05 pm | #
...an uncontrolled re-entry could risk exposure of U.S. secrets
If China gets to it first, that will be the third time we know about that they punked Bush.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:05 pm | #
ten tons of failure....
I remember when Skylab came down back in the summer of '79. They had no idea where that was going to land either. I remember a local TV station doing an all night Skylab watch with sci-fi movies.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:05 pm | #
Echidne...! Your gravatar is a pleasure to see!!
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:05 pm | #
No way McCain wins. When this becomes one on one he will become Grandpa Where Am I in about a week.
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Bad Touch !!! Bad Touch !!!
Planet Earth |
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01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
Most overhyped film ever, most overrated ever. Truly awful, not just thematically but technically as well. Sure, it's low budget, but that doesn't mean it has to look like absolute zero.
The cinematography in Blair Shit Project made Clerks look like Apocalypse Now.
And Blair is a blatant ripoff of Cannibal Holocaust, a much scarier, gruesome, and depressing film.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
Spy satellites typically are disposed of through a controlled re-entry into the ocean so that no one else can access the spacecraft.
Darryl, skywatcher
When they say they're trying to control the damage, what they really mean is they hope not to have to kill too many people who try to get near the wreckage.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
Best headline since "Coward is Hero"
The Kenosha Kid
what did batboy do this time?
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
an uncontrolled re-entry could risk exposure
We have guys for that.
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QuentinCompson |
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01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
How do you get a gravatar?
dddd |
01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
I remember when Skylab came down back in the summer of '79. They had no idea where that was going to land either.
Probably because the math perfessor on Numb3rs was still in grade school.
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
If China gets to it first, that will be the third time we know about that they punked Bush.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry
How do you get a gravatar?
dddd | 01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
3000 posts, then a barefoot walk across a glacier.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 11:07 pm | #
Hispanics hate Blacks is the new wingnut meme.
Planet Earth |
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01.26.08 - 11:07 pm | #
No way McCain wins. When this becomes one on one he will become Grandpa Where Am I in about a week.
He will not win.
I agree.
He becomes Mr. "old fart who hugged chimpy and wants to stay in Iraq for a 1000 years"
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:07 pm | #
McCain does well in national polls because people are remembering 2000 John McCain. As Nicholson's Joker said, "Wait'll they get a load a me."
McCain will be pounded into the sand by Obama. Hillary will beat him by 3 - 4 states.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:07 pm | #
If China gets to it first, that will be the third time we know about that they punked Bush.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry | 01.26.08 - 11:05 pm | #
No one could have predicted a Chinese mole inside NSA (or NASA, or whoever the hell the satellite belongs to).
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Gregoire is going to lose, unfortunately.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
Yipes! I know I'm late to the thread, but what happened? Didn't he do well in South Carolina?
Oh, wait.
I am not a political junkie. I can take it or leave it any time. Honest.
Upsidasium |
01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Planet Earth | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:07 pm | #
The MSM is grasping big time.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Anyhoo, I'm glad Obama won, and I'm glad he didn't just win with the black vote, but the over the top Clinton hatred gets on my nerves.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
That's how I feel, too. Though it also gets on my nerves when any critique is greeted with hostility.
I think we've all become habituated to the reactionary politics that have dominated the public square for so many years.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Tears of Endearment.
That film has the most irritating, cloying score in the history of planet Earth.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Isn't it? I sent the haloscan people 25 smackers.
Echidne
Most overhyped film ever, most overrated ever. Truly awful, not just thematically but technically as well. Sure, it's low budget, but that doesn't mean it has to look like absolute zero.
The cinematography in Blair Shit Project made Clerks look like Apocalypse Now.
And Blair is a blatant ripoff of Cannibal Holocaust, a much scarier, gruesome, and depressing film.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 01.26.08 - 11:06 pm
Couldn't even finish watching the movie.
Perhaps the Cloverfield monster ate them?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
How do you get a gravatar?
dddd | 01.26.08 - 11:06 pm | #
3000 posts, then a barefoot walk across a glacier.
Gilly Gonzylon | 01.26.08 - 11:07 pm | #
I wanted one tonight.
dddd |
01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
How do you get a gravatar?
Go to gravatar.com and they tell you how to upload a pic and all that. It takes a few days before it works and you have to use the same e-mail addy you give them for commenting later.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
How do you get a gravatar?
Go to gravatar.com and give them an email address and a picture for your gravatar. Once they approve it, you just have to fill in the email address and haloscan will display or not display your gravatar as it deems necessary and proper.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
I guess I have a lot to learn about animosity.
Watch the prison specials, etc.
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QuentinCompson |
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01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Then when U post, U have to put the associated email in teh box and UR gravatar will show up automatically.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Hispanics hate Blacks is the new wingnut meme.
"See? We're not the only ones!"
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
I...hate....that...movie.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Pat Buchanan is shaking in his boots. He keeps saying Obama is angry and digging at the Clintons in his speech when he says we're up against the kind of politics where it's okay to say anything to get elected. I didn't hear that at pointed at the Clintons, but at the way politics have been played for far to long by just about everyone.- Sparkle Plenty
yup, including Obama:
(AP) Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama on Monday disavowed a memo criticizing rival Hillary Rodham Clinton's financial ties to India, blaming his campaign staff for a "dumb mistake." In an interview with The Associated Press, Obama labeled the memo and its headline — "Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)" — as "unnecessarily caustic."
focus |
01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Then when U post, U have to put the associated email in teh box and UR gravatar will show up automatically.
..after they f@ck it up once or twice..
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Isn't it? I sent the haloscan people 25 smackers.
Echidne
...not roundhouse kicks?
Darryl, skywatcher |
I considered those in the negotiation stages but mostly I just used whining.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
No one could have predicted a Chinese mole inside NSA (or NASA, or whoever the hell the satellite belongs to).
Hell, it could crash inside China. They don't need a mole.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
It must be tough to be at odds, when you're both black & Hispanic, like many I know.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
That film has the most irritating, cloying score in the history of planet Earth.
Richard | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Not one of my faves either. Saw it once, have never felt the need to revisit it.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Why do I get more worried the more I hear about this satellite thing?
Barbarism Begins at Home
Your chances of getting hit by a falling spy satellite or meteor are lower than... uh... they're lower than..
I can't think of anything right now.
shawk |
01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
He becomes Mr. "old fart who hugged chimpy and wants to stay in Iraq for a 1000 years"
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
How? The Village loves him. Who's gonna spread the 'grandpa' meme? The Villagers won't...they're all practically his age....
flory |
01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
..after they f@ck it up once or twice..
The Kenosha Kid
I was wondering what happened to yours...
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
I guess the only advice I'd give to the lurkers who want to comment is:
Don't be a dick.
Leave that to us professionals!
Chris Tucker |
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01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Terms of Endearment
Steel Magnolias
Darryl, skywatcher
Hate the former
Like the latter
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Latinos hate Blacks is the new Blacks hate immigrants.
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
TEBB, I know that most of the people here are pithy, funny, kind or insightful. That's why I lurk!
dddd
i can haz sum of what ur smokin??
1Watt, Hermit |
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01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
McCain will be pounded into the sand by Obama. Hillary will beat him by 3 - 4 states.
Yes.
And anyone who thinks that dems are going to cross party lines to vote for a rethug who has supported chimpy 90% of the time is smoking crack.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:11 pm | #
Tears of Endearment.
That film has the most irritating, cloying score in the history of planet Earth.
Richard | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:08 pm |
Don't remember the score.
I don't understand how it won all those Oscars, was 1983 really that sucky in terms of movies?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.26.08 - 11:11 pm | #
I saw it in a theater (it looked like shit on the big screen), and people were booing it and talking through the movie. Usually this angers me, but I turned to my friend and said "they're right, this film sucks, let 'em boo".
There were a lot of pissed off people after that screening.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:11 pm | #
My gravatar is an applique work I did meself. The background is the coolest summer frock I ever owned and the other fabrics were bought from sally army.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:11 pm | #
How? The Village loves him. Who's gonna spread the 'grandpa' meme? The Villagers won't...they're all practically his age....
It doesn't matter what they say.
That's what people think when they see him.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:12 pm | #
Not one of my faves either. Saw it once, have never felt the need to revisit it.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Once was enough for me, too.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:12 pm | #
Your chances of getting hit by a falling spy satellite or meteor are lower than... uh... they're lower than..
I can't think of anything right now.
shawk | 01.26.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Well, I didn't mean personal worry, but just a general worry about why they're talking so shadily about it.
I worry a lot. What can I say?
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 11:12 pm | #
The Academy awards don't always award good movies, as we all know.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:12 pm | #
How do you get a gravatar?
Go to gravatar.com and they tell you how to upload a pic and all that. It takes a few days before it works and you have to use the same e-mail addy you give them for commenting later.
Echidne
Do not, I repeat, do not use a dodecahedron as your gravatar...
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 11:12 pm | #
Your chances of getting hit by a falling spy satellite or meteor are lower than... uh... they're lower than..
K.D. Lang turning hetero and doing me for 12 hours in a meat locker.
I...hate....that...movie.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:09 pm | #
Also hated Officer and a Gentleman.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.26.08 - 11:13 pm | #
How? The Village loves him. Who's gonna spread the 'grandpa' meme? The Villagers won't...they're all practically his age....
Doesn't mean shit.
"Stay in Iraq" isn't going to play with the American public.
They've had enough.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:13 pm | #
Obama wins SC in a blowout--almost 60%
Simple Mind |
01.26.08 - 11:13 pm | #
I am eating peanuts with chopsticks
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:13 pm | #
I don't understand how it won all those Oscars, was 1983 really that sucky in terms of movies?
The greatest film ever made received no nominations this year. None, in any award presentation related program activity.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:13 pm | #
Also hated Officer and a Gentleman.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
A love story where the stars couldn't stand one another.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:13 pm | #
Anyhoo, I'm glad Obama won, and I'm glad he didn't just win with the black vote, but the over the top Clinton hatred gets on my nerves.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
That's how I feel, too. Though it also gets on my nerves when any critique is greeted with hostility.
I think we've all become habituated to the reactionary politics that have dominated the public square for so many years.
.
Sparkle Plenty
I think a lot of us are hanging onto the frayed threads dangling from the end of our rope. By our fingernails.
We all need to win. It's pretty intense.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 11:13 pm | #
Also hated Officer and a Gentleman.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
my mother wore out at least two VHS copies of that
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 11:14 pm | #
I know it's classified and all, but could there be more to it than meets the eye?
The wikipedia entry on the KH-12 doesn't mention the power source (although supposedly it failed because solar panels didn't work). Well, that and the big chunk of metal coming down from re-entry.
I'm guessing the feds are more worried about where it will land from the standpoint of others getting intel from the wreckage.
puppethead |
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01.26.08 - 11:14 pm | #
That's what people think when they see him.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Also hated Officer and a Gentleman.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Kind of liked that one. Winger and Gere did hate each other, though, must have been fun for Taylor Hackford.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:14 pm | #
I am eating peanuts with chopsticks
WalterNeff
I've always kidded that this is why asian people are not as fat...
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 11:14 pm | #
Your chances of getting hit by a falling spy satellite or meteor are lower than... uh... they're lower than..
K.D. Lang turning hetero and doing me for 12 hours in a meat locker.
That low ...
Yah. But the satellite will fall somewhere with the probability of one.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:14 pm | #
If Obama does break his pledge with regard to Florida, I would condemn that; I can't tell what your position is - you rant that Obama wants to disenfranchise voters in MI and FL, now you seem upset because he doesn't.
Call me names like "creep" and "dipshit moron" if it pleases you to do so when I point where you are wrong -- I will still keep doing it. The fact remains both BO and JE did pull their names off the ballot in MI and were not permitted to do in FL, contrary to more of your posts than I can count.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 11:15 pm | #
I like Larry McMurtry, and I liked parts of the movie-like when Debra Winger confronts her cheating asshole husband on campus, dragging the kids behind her.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 11:15 pm | #
K.D. Lang turning hetero and doing me for 12 hours in a meat locker.
That low ...
Doug Watts
Lower than that, even.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 11:15 pm | #
I think a lot of us are hanging onto the frayed threads dangling from the end of our rope. By our fingernails.
We all need to win. It's pretty intense.
Yep.
I really don't want Clinton to be the nominee, because I don't want to hear the nonsense.
But to pretend that she and the Clenis are the most ruthless, awful, nasty people who ever walked the face of the planet is just crazy.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:15 pm | #
I don't understand how it won all those Oscars, was 1983 really that sucky in terms of movies?
Try Oscar Winner "How Green Was My Valley" - 5 - count'em 5 Oscars.
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 11:15 pm | #
My gravatar is an applique work I did meself. The background is the coolest summer frock I ever owned and the other fabrics were bought from sally army.
When Radical Cleric Mike Huckabee amends the Constitution to conform with his view of the Bible, you will have to be executed for mixing fibers.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:16 pm | #
Do not, I repeat, do not use a dodecahedron as your gravatar...
Your chances of getting hit by a falling spy satellite or meteor are lower than... uh... they're lower than..
K.D. Lang turning hetero and doing me for 12 hours in a meat locker.
That low ...
Doug Watts
Way lower.
Lower than a fatal paper clip accident.
shawk |
01.26.08 - 11:16 pm | #
Well, I didn't mean personal worry, but just a general worry about why they're talking so shadily about it.
everything BooshCo controls is a state secret.
1Watt, Hermit |
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01.26.08 - 11:17 pm | #
I suppose we could make a list of things that fell out of the sky under Dubya's watch.
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:17 pm | #
When Radical Cleric Mike Huckabee amends the Constitution to conform with his view of the Bible, you will have to be executed for mixing fibers.
By stoning, I guess.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:17 pm | #
Terms of Endearment
The Big Chill
The Right Stuff
Tender Mercies
The Dresser
Richard | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:16 pm | #
That's a pretty weak lineup.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 11:17 pm | #
1983 Oscars
DON'T GET ME STARTED
also, How Green Was My Valley is a good movie - Citizen Kane wasn't seen by enough Academy members. The animosity toward it has been overstated.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:17 pm | #
I don't understand how it won all those Oscars, was 1983 really that sucky in terms of movies?
Terms Of Enrearment also won many honors.
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:17 pm | #
You want to know who's going to be making big bucks the next 12 months?
Paper shredding companies in the DC area.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:18 pm | #
A love story where the stars couldn't stand one another.
Terry C - Edwards 2008
So wuz Dirty Dancing. That's why they call it 'acting'.
flory
Is THAT what they were doing in
"An Officer and a Gentleman"?
Could have fooled me.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:18 pm | #
""Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)" — as "unnecessarily caustic."
focus"
obama's karl rove style dirty tricks shop but out another 'not for attribution' memo on The Big Dog also. Just disgusting. The worst of the worst rat wing smears. adnag outing obama might be the first and last good thing adnag ever does.
Oh and obama never fired nobody.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 11:18 pm | #
you will have to be executed for mixing fibers.
By stoning, I guess.
Echidne
Hasn't killed me yet. I've tried.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 11:18 pm | #
Uh, I don't know actually. But I do know it should be in a private, family ceremony.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:19 pm | #
also, How Green Was My Valley is a good movie - Citizen Kane wasn't seen by enough Academy members. The animosity toward it has been overstated.
Took the words right out of my keyboard.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:19 pm | #
But to pretend that she and the Clenis are the most ruthless, awful, nasty people who ever walked the face of the planet is just crazy.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
And tiresome.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:19 pm | #
We all need to win. It's pretty intense.
V for Virginia
I think you're right. The other day I was raging about something and pulled myself up with the sudden thought I feel besieged just like the Nixon backlash folks must have felt at the end of the 60s -- or all the union folks who turned toward Reagan in 80. I don't want to resort to similar irrational choices out frustration, but there are moments when I feel some empathy . . .
.
Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 11:19 pm | #
Uh, I don't know actually. But I do know it should be in a private, family ceremony.
Way lower. Lower than a fatal paper clip accident.
shawk | 01.26.08 - 11:16 pm | #
--
See ? And people tell me I have no chance with K.D.
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 11:20 pm | #
dang, Christian Brando died at 49 of pneumonia today. i spent 8 days in the hospital with pneumonia last year and kept wondering if it was going to kill me. of course, if that was likely they'd have had me in i.c.u. but when you're on serious painkillers you aren't too rational.
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 11:20 pm | #
Echidne...! Your gravatar is a pleasure to see!!
Isn't it? I sent the haloscan people 25 smackers.
Echidne
Glad you're still here, goddess. Although it would have been inexpressibly cool to have been able to claim it as haloscan's birthday present to me.
Upsidasium |
01.26.08 - 11:20 pm | #
But to pretend that she and the Clenis are the most ruthless, awful, nasty people who ever walked the face of the planet is just crazy.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
and racists, and murderers, and the illegitimate love children of poppy and Bar - this shit permeates every intellectual level of discourse - it is a fucking psychotic phenomena?
focus |
01.26.08 - 11:21 pm | #
That's a pretty weak lineup.
That was the verdict at the time. It was basically seen as a forgone conclusion that Terms of Endearment was going to win it, with The Big Chill seen as a very distant 2nd place.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Nutroot-induced Hilarity--the Gift That Keeps On Giving!
HAPPY BIRFDAY Upsidasium! May your potato fields never run empty.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Christian Brando died at 49 of pneumonia today.
What a fucked up life he had.
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:22 pm | #
Good. My brother always misses.
Oh. That may not be a good idea then. It might lead some to believe your are some type of goddess or something. That would be bad.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Just a point of order: Trolls are not regarded as regulars.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Why don't you get some real legislators in Congress, you assholes, instead of these pathetic pretenders like Pelosi and Reid?
Lubyanka |
01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Blasphemy! Everyone knows President Bartlet taking on Dr Laura is the more appropriate reference.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry | 01.26.08 - 11:21 pm | #
One of the greatest TV moments ever.
rootless-e |
01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
and racists, and murderers, and the illegitimate love children of poppy and Bar - this shit permeates every intellectual level of discourse - it is a fucking psychotic phenomena?
Psychotic is right.
Say what you want about Bill, but after leaving office he could have gone off and make kazillions of dollars.
Instead he's continued with his public service.
In stark contrast to any living former rethug president. And in stark contrast to what chimpy will do.
He just wants to "refill the old coffers."
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
I"m hitting the hay, folks. Been a pleasure.
Sweet dreams.
V for Virginia |
01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Nutroot-induced Hilarity--the Gift That Keeps On Giving!
Oh the humanity!
The horror!
Lubyanka | 01.26.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Shouldn't there be two L's in "Hilarity"?
Ya know, to make it funny?
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Just a point of order: Trolls are not regarded as regulars.
Echidne | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
--
Book of Armaments, Chapter IV.
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
But to pretend that she and the Clenis are the most ruthless, awful, nasty people who ever walked the face of the planet is just crazy.
Along those lines, dkos has been a rather shameful place in the last few weeks.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Right, the year 1941, it didn't hit me...Citizen Kane! Geez...
Sorry about that.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Also hated Officer and a Gentleman.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
my mother wore out at least two VHS copies of that
::matthew | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:14 pm |
I'm a woman, but the deliberately weepy, romantic crap has almost always annoyed me.
Didn't like Dirty Dancing, either.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.26.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Just me but I liked:
Never Cry Wolf
Blue Thunder
Flashdance
Return of the Jedi
The Right Stuff
Heart Like a Wheel
Rueben Rueben
Cross Creek
and
Trading Places
Better than Terms of Endearment
DWD - |
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01.26.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Hmm..., namecalling is evidence of a child-like frustration with life.
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:24 pm | #
That's the one. Your sin is forgiven, my child.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:24 pm | #
The Right Stuff is my favorite movie.
Here's my top five:
1. The Right Stuff
2. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
3. The Third Man
4. Salesman (Maysles doc)
5. The General
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Don't know what exit poll he is talking about and he doesn't tell us. But anyway there were 3 people in the race. Guess which one got more white males than obama or Hillary. At least according to cnn: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008...s/epolls/
#SCDEM
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 11:24 pm | #
He just wants to "refill the old coffers."
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Can u imagine that dolt writing a book? All by hisself?
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Sorry, I liked that Officer & A Gentleman was about working class people. As a Cinderella story, it's a lot better than Pretty Woman.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 11:25 pm | #
nutroot hippie Father Figure--all the right "progressive" causes
Lubyanka |
01.26.08 - 11:25 pm | #
2. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
I fucking LOVE that movie.
My brother and I saw it in the theater when we were kids.
We laughed ourselves silly.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:25 pm | #
2001. For Special Effects.
shawk | 01.26.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Yup. Hell, in 1964 My Fair Lady won Best Picture (Strangelove was out that year).
My Fair Lady is entertaining, but it didn't have the impact Strangelove did (and still does).
Kind of like Valley and Kane. Valley is a wonderful film, but Kane is much more influential.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:25 pm | #
We could use a real President too... luckily, a year from now, we'll probably have one.
nick carraway |
01.26.08 - 11:26 pm | #
5. The General
Buster Keaton, or the Boorman movie?
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:26 pm | #
Say what you want about Bill, but after leaving office he could have gone off and make kazillions of dollars.
Instead he's continued with his public service.
[...]
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:23 pm | #
The was a story in the WSJ about Bill cashing out his $20Million in profits in some fund he has been assisting because its deals with Dubai etc. might be a problem on the campaign.
Of course, it's nothing compared to Cheney retaining his Halbiburton stock while VP, but ...
rootless-e |
01.26.08 - 11:26 pm | #
One of the greatest TV moments ever.
In the top ten greatest tv moments, I think The West Wing might have a majority. Unfunded mandate is two words, not one big one.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:26 pm | #
brilliance from tnr:
The cartoonlike desire to turn everything into a dualistic simple thing pisses me off. It's not that simple, ever, and deciding it is and then going out to find an anecdote to support that plot is stupid.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:26 pm | #
Salesman is an interesting choice...an excellent film.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:26 pm | #
Can u imagine that dolt writing a book? All by hisself?
Don't worry, some sucker will write one for him and it will instantly end up in the remainder bins.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:26 pm | #
I'd have to have 20 or 30 top five lists depending on the genre or my mood
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 11:27 pm | #
"Comment by Lubyanka blocked. [unkill][show comment]"
Another troll shows up, waving its tiny, useless penis, and runs headfirst into killfile, knocking itself even stupider than it was to begin with.
Man, that NEVER gets old!
Chris Tucker |
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01.26.08 - 11:27 pm | #
The General is certainly funny, perhaps my hardest-laughed-at out of my seat etc.
Coulda been the dope though.
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QuentinCompson |
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01.26.08 - 11:27 pm | #
5. The General
Buster Keaton, or the Boorman movie?
Richard
I did not want to know that about you.
shawk |
01.26.08 - 11:27 pm | #
Right Stuff is actually a pale imitation of Chuck Yeager's autobiography, which is truly fucked up. Just read it the other day. Really great book. His wife Glennis writes quite a bit in it. Fascinating woman.
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 11:27 pm | #
Walter,
That list was culled from the IMDB list of nominated movies for '83. (But thanks anyway)
DWD - |
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01.26.08 - 11:28 pm | #
I thought it was overlong and tedious, but there's no arguing taste, as the Romans used to say.
2001 is more my speed as far as spacefaring movies go.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 11:28 pm | #
..but the deliberately weepy, romantic crap has almost always annoyed me.
---amen, buckeye. and i've never once read a "romance" novel. when i have a romance i enjoy the heck out of it and when i don't i don't want to read about some imaginary romance.
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 11:28 pm | #
Thank you for all the advice. I have to say, it used to be that I liked the Clintons, but now I feel like turning off the TV whenever I see one of them. I'll vote for Hill if she wins, but I hope I can regain some enthusiasm. I thought Obama said it well when he called that kind of politics "depressing".
dddd |
01.26.08 - 11:28 pm | #
Yup. Hell, in 1964 My Fair Lady won Best Picture
That's one of my favorite movies. And is probably the first grown up movie premiere I ever went to.
I was six.
(Walter Neff will probably remember, but back in the 60's, when big films opened it was a big deal, with programs and everything)
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:29 pm | #
Speaking of Oscars - Kevin O'Connell was nominated again this year. His mother recently died: she won't get to see him win.
19 noms - no wins. This year is his 20th nom. Sound/Sound Editing
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:29 pm | #
Salesman
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
The soul of the GOP is contained within that film.
shawk |
01.26.08 - 11:29 pm | #
There are a lot of classic movies I've somehow missed thru the years.
Some of my favorite movies:
The Wizard of Oz
Airplane
Young Frankenstein
The Music Man
Galaxy Quest
Yeah, slanted toward the comic stuff.
sister of ye |
01.26.08 - 11:29 pm | #
.but the deliberately weepy, romantic crap has almost always annoyed me.
---amen, buckeye. and i've never once read a "romance" novel. when i have a romance i enjoy the heck out of it and when i don't i don't want to read about some imaginary romance.
Pick one up, a recent one. You might be surprised by what they have become. Mostly soft porn for women.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:29 pm | #
...two movies about twenty-five years apart but a perfect "double-feature."
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:29 pm | #
Please don't quote the trolls.
It defeats the purpose of killfile and makes their tiny, useless penises all tingly like.
Thank you for your kind attention.
Chris Tucker |
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01.26.08 - 11:30 pm | #
I see my gravatar didn't show up.
dddd |
01.26.08 - 11:30 pm | #
Christian Brando died at 49 of pneumonia today.
What a fucked up life he had.
MP
Used as a pawn by warring parents.
Small wonder things turned out the way they did for him.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:30 pm | #
Hard to really place them in any order, but here are a few of my favorites...
Paths of Glory
Dr. Strangelove
Seven Days in May
the Manchurian Candidate
the Thin Red Line (1998 version)
Kiss Me Deadly
Bullit
The Sweet Smell of Success
Kiss Me Deadly
the Godfather I and II
Apocalypse Now
Dark City
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:31 pm | #
Oh noes!
A large maine coon kitteh is pawing at me, demanding mah attention.
Finger biting is immanent.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:31 pm | #
Don't worry, some sucker will write one for him and it will instantly end up in the remainder bins.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Like those thoughtful Presidential letters of Reagan that just "turned up" last year. C'mon, even the Rethugs didn't fall for that pathetic horseshit.
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:31 pm | #
2. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
From Durante "kicking the bucket" to Merman slipping on a banana peel, that is a funny, funny film.
sidhra صي ذ& |
01.26.08 - 11:32 pm | #
Another troll shows up, waving its tiny, useless penis, and runs headfirst into killfile, knocking itself even stupider than it was to begin with.
Man, that NEVER gets old!
Chris Tucker
That particular mouthbreather is SO predictable.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:32 pm | #
.but the deliberately weepy, romantic crap has almost always annoyed me.
---amen, buckeye. and i've never once read a "romance" novel. when i have a romance i enjoy the heck out of it and when i don't i don't want to read about some imaginary romance.
Pick one up, a recent one. You might be surprised by what they have become. Mostly soft porn for women.
Echidne | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:29 pm |
Maybe after I finish His Dark Materials, re-read LOTR, and a couple of books on the Soviet Union (by sdf and GWPDA), maybe I'll hit the romance stuff.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.26.08 - 11:32 pm | #
"The cartoonlike desire to turn everything into a dualistic simple thing pisses me off. It's not that simple, ever, and deciding it is and then going out to find an anecdote to support that plot is stupid.
Echidne"
It's the script. The "liberal media" has a script. And it sure looks like race is what it is. And if that doesn't work they'll through in gender. In every dem contest record numbers have come out to vote. Not mentioned a whole lot. The repubs are barely a party any more. Everybody hates them. Not mentioned a whole lot.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 11:32 pm | #
I see my gravatar didn't show up.
It takes a while.
It will show up eventually.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:32 pm | #
2001, Ran (Kurosawa), Satantango, Lawrence of Arabia, Aguirre: Wrath of God, Solaris (Tarkovsky), L'argent, The Last Emperor, 8 1/2, Once Upon a Time in America.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:32 pm | #
Ironically, the MSM has selected red as the color to represent Obama's counties in South Carolina.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:33 pm | #
That poll doesn't tell us who got the white male vote, hadenough.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 11:33 pm | #
In every dem contest record numbers have come out to vote. Not mentioned a whole lot. The repubs are barely a party any more. Everybody hates them. Not mentioned a whole lot.
Iz true.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:33 pm | #
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956 version)
Days of Heaven
the Wages of Fear
From Russia With Love
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:33 pm | #
sidhra صي ذ& | 01.26.08 - 11:32 pm | #
I would love to see that film on the big screen in a restored, 70mm, Cinerama print.
The best part is when Jonathan Winters destroys the gas station.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:33 pm | #
Chuck Yeager fell 50,000 feet in 51 seconds in the Bell X-1A over the Mojave Desert. He knew he was going to die. The entire plane was designed without an ejection seat. If the liquid oxygen tanks caught fire, he could not bail out. The guy was fucking crazy, but lived.
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 11:33 pm | #
I'm going to watch "8 1/2", "9 and a Half Weeks", and "10"
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 11:34 pm | #
if anyone is interested we can share what books we have in our individual "to be read" piles.
my includes:
1949: The First Israelis
Doubt
Of Moths and Men
TEBB |
01.26.08 - 11:34 pm | #
hat poll doesn't tell us who got the white male vote, hadenough.
I think it went for both Obama and Edwards.
Obama did quite well with them, which is good news.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:34 pm | #
I suppose... posting a list of my DVD and CD would make for an interesting blog post.
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:35 pm | #
It's the script. The "liberal media" has a script. And it sure looks like race is what it is. And if that doesn't work they'll through in gender. In every dem contest record numbers have come out to vote. Not mentioned a whole lot. The repubs are barely a party any more. Everybody hates them. Not mentioned a whole lot.
One retired editor told me that the writers are reluctant to work very hard. I didn't take her seriously but now I think she may be right. Certain themes are so easy to write about, or look like that at least (in fact, race and gender are really hard to write about, even after decades of study). So they go with those. Then you don't have to learn about the geeky differences in the health care policy proposals.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:35 pm | #
Some of my faves:
Love and Death
Annie Hall
White Mischief
M
Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter
That Hamilton Woman
Edward My Son
Sunset Boulevard
Some Like it Hot
The Odd Couple
The Producers
Bugsy
Back Street (1961)
Spinal Tap
Zelig
Radio Days
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:35 pm | #
Billary are in the process of reminding the rest of us of what we love so much about them--the bimbos, the mendacity, the triangulation, the bimbos, the blatant lying to Cabinet members, the bit lips, the utter lack of integrity, Fleetwood Mac, the mendacity, the hypocrisy, the implicit racism, the etc....
Lubyanka |
01.26.08 - 11:35 pm | #
The Right Stuff: I saw Conti conduct his Oscar-winning score with the Seattle Symphony
Mad World - I took a film class from Kramer: great storyteller (I'm too lazy to spell ranconteur).
The Third Man - Best character entrance evah
Salesman - Everything a documentary should be
The General - pure cinema
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:35 pm | #
I like Walter's signature flick, Double Indemnity. Steve Douglas was a real prick in that movie.
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:35 pm | #
I'm going to watch "8 1/2", "9 and a Half Weeks", and "10"
Gilly Gonzylon
Not Oceans Eleven or Twelve Angry Men?
SteveLG |
01.26.08 - 11:35 pm | #
Duck Soup, Ordet, La Dolce Vita, The Man who Shot Liberty Valance, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, Joe Dirt, All that Jazz, Death in Venice, Once Upon a Time in the West, Zoolander...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
do they have movies in 70mm anymore?
I have a few feet of 70mm from the original star wars
::matthew |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
Gilly
Turn your speakers all the way up to 11
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
TEBB, I have:
Seven Pillars of Wisdom, Lives of the Poets, something else somebody gave me
dddd |
01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
In 1940, Senator Harry Truman faced a primary challenger who was more or less backed by FDR (it was, as usual w/Roosevelt, hard to say for sure)... and in the midst of that, the Republicans who controlled his home county chose that particular time to foreclose the mortgage on his mother's farm, forcing her and his sister off the family land... so when people get all "depressed" about politics, maybe they ought to just suck it up and not whine, because it has always been, it will always be, a nasty business.
nick carraway |
01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
And he was a dick in The Apartment, as well.
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
Janeane - I liked Joe Dirt
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
In the top ten greatest tv moments, I think The West Wing might have a majority. Unfunded mandate is two words, not one big one.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry
Not one of the greatest but one of the strangest, and upsetting, moments in TV history I ever witnessed was a mid-1980s show with Gary Collins, (this only rememberized because he was just sentenced for DUI), his famous co-host?, and a doctor demonstrating why the procedure of blood donation was safe despite the AIDS outbreak (then at its peak). The Dr. tried to show how a syringe needle was methodically changed from patient to patient- and then inadvertently used same needle directly from co-host’s arm to draw from Collins’ arm ... dr. immediately realized mistake and went chalk white followed by co-host then Collins. it was unbelievably uncomfortable moment all around … the faces of uncomprehending questioning and some type of attempt at an unknowing reassurance to each other – yikes
focus |
01.26.08 - 11:37 pm | #
A Soldier of Orange
Black Book
...two movies about twenty-five years apart but a perfect "double-feature."
Darryl, skywatcher | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:29 pm
I just finshed Black Book, need to watch Soldier of Orange.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
01.26.08 - 11:37 pm | #
Christian Brando died at 49 of pneumonia today.
What a fucked up life he had.
MP
...the first place that Mrs. Jack K. and I lived in as married people was along a little creek in Southwestern Washington State. Up the slope behind us was a nice cabin owned by the Marlon Brando conglomerate; it was mostly used by his family and friends as a remote mountain getaway. We never met anybody that visited, but the folks at the nearbye restaurant and bar and little country store had all sorts of stories about his son.
He was, according to their experiences, a pretty messed up puppy 25 years ago...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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01.26.08 - 11:37 pm | #
::matthew | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
Malick's The New World was partially shot on 70mm.
First film since Branagh's Hamlet, which was shot completely in 70mm....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:37 pm | #
HillaRY TRYING TO CHANGE HER TONE AGAIN ON CSPAN.
EVERYONE OF THESE CANDIDATES, BOT REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, IS TRYING TO BE OBAMA.
priam |
01.26.08 - 11:37 pm | #
Janeane - I liked Joe Dirt
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac | 01.26.08 - 11:36 pm | #
I have a few feet of 70mm from the original star wars
No shit?
That is cool.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:37 pm | #
The best part is when Jonathan Winters destroys the gas station.
But... this is a little girl's bike.
Even businessmen, who rob and cheat and steal from people everyday, even they have to pay taxes.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:38 pm | #
ANY Marx Brothers movie.
Mrs. Parkington (Greer Garson)
The Apartment
Double Indemnity
Just about anything Billy Wilder directed
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:38 pm | #
"That poll doesn't tell us who got the white male vote, hadenough.
Karin "
Oooops page 4 at the bottom.
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 11:38 pm | #
Young Frankenstein: The Musical
Saw it in Seattle. Meh, except Sutton Foster's right eyebrow and both legs, Christopher Fitzgerald, and Megan Mullally
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:38 pm | #
From Durante "kicking the bucket" to Merman slipping on a banana peel, that is a funny, funny film.
sidhra صي ذ& | 01.26.08 - 11:32 pm | #
Amazing cast of some of the funniest people who ever lived.
Jimmy Durante
Sid Caesar
Milton Berle
Dick Shawn
Buddy Hackett
Phil Silvers
Jonathan Winters
Terry Thomas
Selma Diamond (voice)
Jack Benny (cameo)
Jim Backus
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.26.08 - 11:39 pm | #
"That poll doesn't tell us who got the white male vote, hadenough.
Karin "
Oooops: page 4 at the bottom
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:38 pm | #
I haven't gotten around to Ace in the Hole yet. Just got released on DVD.
You seen that one, Terry?
And did you see Fedora? I love that one.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:40 pm | #
HILLARY ON CSPAN SAYS SHE THINKS THE MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD BE INDEXED TO CONGRESSIONAL PAY RAISES.
priam |
01.26.08 - 11:40 pm | #
Now listen to me, Mommy, listen to me close. You stay right there, because I'm coming, Mom. I'm coming to get you.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:40 pm | #
nick carraway, of course. but it's still depressing, I whine.
dddd |
01.26.08 - 11:40 pm | #
What the hell is going on? haloscan is more fucked up than usual?
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 11:40 pm | #
Young Frankenstein: The Musical
Saw it in Seattle. Meh, except Sutton Foster's right eyebrow and both legs, Christopher Fitzgerald, and Megan Mullally
I have no interest in that. Yikes, why can't they just leave stuff alone?
I also heard that there's going to be a remake of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
Lev Spiro is going to direct.
Now why the fuck do they feel the world needs a remake of that? the original was a perfectly fine and pleasantly mindless and fun film.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:40 pm | #
Walken was funny in Joe Dirt, parodying his more than slightly mentally disturbed movie personna.
He would have been wonderful in Cuckoo's Nest, which was also a great flick.
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:41 pm | #
Movies I watch over and over:
To Kill a Mockingbird
Buffalo Bill and the Indians
Ishtar
Smoke
Smoke Signals
Matewan
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 11:41 pm | #
HILLARY SAYS THE INSURANCE COMPANIES CANNOT BE DETERMINING WHO LIVES AND DIES IN AMERICA.
priam |
01.26.08 - 11:41 pm | #
A few years ago I saw a very nice print of Mad World at Paul Allen's refurbished Cinerama. He also screened the three projector version of How the West Was Won which looked like it was shot about three weeks before: I could see Stewart's nose hairs.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Well, they did make a musical out of Xanadu, which was an awful film.
Bill and Ted was mindless fun, why would they remake that? Geesh...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:42 pm | #
What the hell is going on? haloscan is more fucked up than usual?
hadenough
whenever I think it couldn't suck any worse, it always proves me wrong
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 11:42 pm | #
HILLARY ON CSPAN SAYS SHE THINKS THE MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD BE INDEXED TO CONGRESSIONAL PAY RAISES.
priam
Well, considering the importance of the two I would rather than the minimum wage be equal to that of the congress. At least then it would be putting money in the hands of someone actually doing something productive and helpful to people.
DWD - |
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01.26.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Matewan - I have a signed screenplay.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:42 pm | #
I have a signed laserdisc of Hellraiser, and a signed DVD of The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:43 pm | #
In Cuckoo's Nest, the director really made you think those poor souls were nuts.
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:43 pm | #
Well..., there are good movies.
And then..., there are guilty pleasures.
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:43 pm | #
The Apartment
Double Indemnity
I'm very good in those.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:44 pm | #
HILLARY SAYS THE INSURANCE COMPANIES CANNOT BE DETERMINING WHO LIVES AND DIES IN AMERICA.
priam
No, we should leave that to hospital administrators and drug company executives and members of the AMA who determine their fees based on their portfolios. . . .
DWD - |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:44 pm | #
The life of brian
Star Wars
Beau Geste
The grapes of Rath
Godfather
focus |
01.26.08 - 11:44 pm | #
Gilly Gonzylon | 01.26.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Flamingos is actually a very funny movie, consistently so.
Most people talk about the final scene, which honestly, is kind of unnecessary.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:44 pm | #
Bill and Ted was mindless fun, why would they remake that? Geesh...
I dunno.
I saw it recently on cable, and it's still funny.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:44 pm | #
HILLARY SAYS ANYONE WILLING TO FORGOE A SMALL AMOUNT OF THEIR LIFETIME INCOME TO A BANK SHOULD GET FULL FINANCING FOR COLLEGE.
priam |
01.26.08 - 11:44 pm | #
I nominate this as the best trailer for a bad movie..
I know I'll have a strong box full of every format of "High School High" when they wheel my drooling, leaky ass into the nursing home.
Doug Watts |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:45 pm | #
And then..., there are guilty pleasures.
I never feel guilty about any of those.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:45 pm | #
HILLARY IS CALLING FOR MENTAL HEALTH PARITY.
priam |
01.26.08 - 11:45 pm | #
HILLARY IS CALLING FOR A UNIVERSAL PRE-KINDERGARTEN PROGRAM.
priam
Tell you what, let's just take the kids out their mothers' wombs, put them in child rearing centers and teach them right then and there how to be good consumers and to not think: wouldn't that work better?
DWD - |
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01.26.08 - 11:45 pm | #
I never feel guilty about any of those.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Come sit by me.
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
Matewan - I have a signed screenplay.
Walter Neff.
Wow. How did you come by that? My SO heard him read in Central Park once and said it was amazing. I love a lot of his stuff. My kids got me Return of the Secaucus 7 for Christams -- so much fun to have.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
giant orange stupid is highlighting some exit poll stats. It was a blow out. Throw the stats out. obama doubled Hillary and edwards was 10 points behind her. What the hell is sense of 'obama lead in this catergory'? He got 55% of the vote!
hadenough |
01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
OK -- the woman I didn't leave the monastery to marry used to teach Obama's kids in the University of Chicago Lab School -- knows Michelle, better (mothers do these things, right?)
Prior, you know I teach at Lab? Are you still in touch with said woman? Anytime you're in the neighborhood, drop by the Science Office, I'll buy you lunch...
With respect to Jesse Jackson's winning SC (twice, according to the Big Dog), I doubt it was by the margin Obama scored.
No matter who gets the nomination, Barack Obama made history tonight.
David Derbes, textifyin' |
01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
signed DVD of The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover.
That's tres cool.
and I raise you:
Screenwriter Stewart Stern (I've had lunch with him) signed my DVD of a film he wrote and was nominated for:
Rebel Without a Cause
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
A few years ago I saw a very nice print of Mad World at Paul Allen's refurbished Cinerama.
That movie is MEANT to be seen on the big screen.
THere's so much going on.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
HILLARY IS CALLING FOR THE WIDENING OF I-75 FROM SAULT SAINT MARIE TO THE FLORIDA KEYS!
priam |
01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World isn't always funny, but's consistently entertaining and never boring.
My favorite Stanley Kramer film is On the Beach.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
If it wasn't raining, I'd be at a Macaulay Culkin film festival right now.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
It will only depress you if you let it.
I just don't think there was ever a time when politics wasn't damned unpleasant, and the ugliest fights are often (not always) the most important.
nick carraway |
01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
Love to stay and play but I have to go to sleep.
Night, all
Peace.
Hillary sucks. One more corporate centrist. Go Hillary. The Status Quo forever!
DWD - |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:47 pm | #
a clarification: Not a John Sayles autograph - a Chris Cooper autograph.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:47 pm | #
The CAPSLOCK troll is too much for me right now. Goodnight.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 11:47 pm | #
"Tell you what, let's just take the kids out their mothers' wombs, put them in child rearing centers and teach them right then and there how to be good consumers and to not think: wouldn't that work better?
DWD"
I can't really top that one. I have an Are You Being Served? book signed by John Inman (Mr. Humphries).
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:47 pm | #
"I'm comin' to get ya, mama!"
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out
"... that's why you had me"
focus |
01.26.08 - 11:47 pm | #
Matewan - I have a signed screenplay.
When I lived in Hoboken, John Sayles used to hang out at the YMCA, play pickup baseketball games.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 11:48 pm | #
somehow I believe that paul allen would have the best theatre in the universe...and it's probably on a big assed boat
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 11:48 pm | #
The Great Race...!!
Darryl, skywatcher | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:47 pm | #
My favorite movie as a kid. That and A Hard Days Night.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 11:48 pm | #
It is funny in a mindless way. I wasn't really insulting it (surprising coming from me).
Oh, I knew that.
Sometimes movies should just be silly and fun.
For the record, I also liked Time Bandits.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Why does jack think that YELLING makes his posts anymore intelligent?
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Elvis beat Khrushchev. GE beat Elvis.
gullycat |
01.26.08 - 11:48 pm | #
a Chris Cooper autograph
I like his work. Didn't he get a late start at acting?
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:49 pm | #
I have a signed Robert Frost poem. The one about the calves.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:49 pm | #
I can't really top that one. I have an Are You Being Served? book signed by John Inman (Mr. Humphries).
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 01.26.08 - 11:47 pm | #
That's awesome! I still watch that show on PBS when it come on. Funny, funny stuff.
And now, I'm really out. 'Night.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
01.26.08 - 11:49 pm | #
I have a signed Robert Frost poem. The one about the calves.
Echidne
Odd, when ron Paul talked about the "NAFTA Superhighway", it was going to start on the Mexican border...
oh well, that makes it easier for the Cubans to get to Canada...
nick carraway |
01.26.08 - 11:50 pm | #
I have a signed Robert Frost poem. The one about the calves.
Echidne | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:49 pm | # '
I have a signed Bukowski book.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.26.08 - 11:50 pm | #
I'd say I enjoy 95 out of 100 films I watch...I'm just not that critical.
::matthew |
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01.26.08 - 11:50 pm | #
I just don't think there was ever a time when politics wasn't damned unpleasant, and the ugliest fights are often (not always) the most important.
nick carraway | 01.26.08 - 11:46 pm | #
You know what's really depressing?
When I wuz in the burbs tonight, I stopped at a Target and it seemed like every single person in there shopping had a baby and a couple of kids, and/or was pregnant.
Gravatars can take a long time to show up.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 11:51 pm | #
I've got a couple of autographs-Howard Zinn's autobiography, and a Hubert Sumlin album. And Oscar Maria Graf's autobiography, who no one has ever heard of.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 11:51 pm | #
I'd say I enjoy 95 out of 100 films I watch...I'm just not that critical.
::matthew | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:50 pm | #
--
Then you have not seen "The Bad Lieutenant."
Doug Watts |
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01.26.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Gravatars can take a long time to show up.
Kind of like Tiger pictures, eh?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:51 pm | #
As a young kid, my favorite movie was Swiss Family Robinson. I must have seen it 5 times before the age of 7. I loved the treehouse.
Since then, I haven't seen it in at least 35 years.
Richard |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:52 pm | #
I have a signed Bukowski book.
I think Gilly wins.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 11:52 pm | #
HILLARY IS CALLING FOR A UNIVERSAL PRE-KINDERGARTEN PROGRAM.
priam
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh, that's EDUCATING children.
Education is bad.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:52 pm | #
Judgment at Nuremberg is my second favorite Kramer film: tidbit - and you would know this if you read my column in Boxoffice magazine - as you may know, Judgment at Nuremberg was originally a live Playhouse 90 presentation. Claude Rains played the Tracy part. It was sponsored by . . . wait for it . . .
The American Gas Council.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:52 pm | #
I have a signed Don Martin. Honest.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
01.26.08 - 11:53 pm | #
I think the only autographed thing I have is a Peter, Paul and Mary album with Mary Travers sig on one side and Peter Yarrow on the other.
sister of ye |
01.26.08 - 11:53 pm | #
I think Gilly wins.
I want a rematch.
Echidne |
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01.26.08 - 11:53 pm | #
I haven't gotten around to Ace in the Hole yet. Just got released on DVD.
You seen that one, Terry?
And did you see Fedora? I love that one.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Liked both of those.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:53 pm | #
Judgment at Nuremberg is my second favorite Kramer film: tidbit - and you would know this if you read my column in Boxoffice magazine - as you may know, Judgment at Nuremberg was originally a live Playhouse 90 presentation. Claude Rains played the Tracy part. It was sponsored by . . . wait for it . . .
The American Gas Council.
Holy cow!
I love that film too.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:54 pm | #
I have a signed Don Martin. Honest.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
I'd say I enjoy 95 out of 100 films I watch...I'm just not that critical.
I have a good success rate, because I'm rather picky and have a pretty good idea of which films I'm likely to enjoy.
Richard |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:54 pm | #
Dr Hekyl and Hype. That was funny in a strange, twisted way.
I have a signed copy of Terry Dowling's last book.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Yes, Gilly wins.
But I want an honourable mention for sending sallyh a signed Brautigan
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Judgment at Nuremberg is my second favorite Kramer film: tidbit - and you would know this if you read my column in Boxoffice magazine - as you may know, Judgment at Nuremberg was originally a live Playhouse 90 presentation. Claude Rains played the Tracy part. It was sponsored by . . . wait for it . . .
The American Gas Council.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
Judgment at Nuremberg is another favorite....and Claude Rains is one of my all time favorite actors.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:55 pm | #
I have trouble sitting still long enough for movies or television, really.
Echidne |
Homepage |
01.26.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Jean Shepard autographed Wanda Hickey's Night of Golden Memories for me.
sidhra صي ذ& |
01.26.08 - 11:55 pm | #
I have a signed Don Martin. Honest.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
Doe he eat a lot?
MP | 01.26.08 - 11:54 pm | #
Shlurp, shbloot, narknark, blunpfht...
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
01.26.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Kind of like Tiger pictures, eh?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
Hey, I just posted one!
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Judgment at Nuremberg is my second favorite Kramer film: tidbit - and you would know this if you read my column in Boxoffice magazine - as you may know, Judgment at Nuremberg was originally a live Playhouse 90 presentation. Claude Rains played the Tracy part.
Who played Chris Dodd's dad's part?
George Johnston |
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01.26.08 - 11:56 pm | #
fourlegs: good thing you don't run around in the same circle I do... most all my close friends have been having kids right left & center the last few years, plus I have a niece and nephew of fairly recent vintage.
I get a kick out of them all, they're going to be good people someday I think, but it doesn't make me want kids...
nick carraway |
01.26.08 - 11:56 pm | #
We should make John Gibson and Rita Cosby watch Ace in the Hole with their eyes pried open like A Clockwork Orange's Alex
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.26.08 - 11:56 pm | #
I have an autographed copy of Robert Burns' poetry. Not autographed by the Bard. Whoever it was who gave it as a Birthday present.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.26.08 - 11:57 pm | #
Echidne | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Then you probably shouldn't watch Our Hitler: A Film from Germany. I just rented it, and it ran over 7 hours.
But it's brilliant, really stunning.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:57 pm | #
Movies worth watching more than once:
Seven Samurai (Kurosawa)
Stalag 17 (Wilder)
Casablanca (Curtiz)
Big Sleep (Hawks)
Klute (Pakula)
Z (Costa-Gavras)
Dr. Strangelove (Kubrick)
Witness (Weir)
Year of Living Dangerously (Weir)
Local Hero (Forsyth)
David Derbes, textifyin' |
01.26.08 - 11:57 pm | #
I have a signed Albert Goldbarth.
dddd |
01.26.08 - 11:57 pm | #
I have the autograph of the 1985 Nobel Prize winner in physics.
Richard |
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01.26.08 - 11:57 pm | #
Jeffrey Hunter played Shatner's part
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.26.08 - 11:57 pm | #
fourlegs: good thing you don't run around in the same circle I do... most all my close friends have been having kids right left & center the last few years, plus I have a niece and nephew of fairly recent vintage.
I understand that people want to have kids.
It's just that the planet is overcrowded and out it the burbs it's all about the cult of babies.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:57 pm | #
I have trouble sitting still long enough for movies or television, really.
Echidne | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 11:55 pm | #
Me too. Anything with a plot and I'm lost.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
01.26.08 - 11:58 pm | #
a clarification: Not a John Sayles autograph - a Chris Cooper autograph.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
Oh, I love him, too. He was perfection in Silver City.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 11:58 pm | #
We should make John Gibson and Rita Cosby watch Ace in the Hole with their eyes pried open like A Clockwork Orange's Alex
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
Truer words were never spoken.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.26.08 - 11:58 pm | #
But I want an honourable mention for sending sallyh a signed Brautigan
I also got Zinn to sign a book for GWPDA, inscribed to her personally, 'to a fellow historian'.
Karin |
01.26.08 - 11:58 pm | #
HILLARY IS CALLING FOR BLOGGERS INSIDE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
priam |
01.26.08 - 11:58 pm | #
We should make John Gibson and Rita Cosby watch Ace in the Hole with their eyes pried open like A Clockwork Orange's Alex
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
Or just a dark screen. As long as the eye gadget is used.
MP |
01.26.08 - 11:58 pm | #
MsCompson has some dirt from the boots of Joel Coen, circa O Brother, Where Art Thou?, whence she was an extra.
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QuentinCompson |
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01.26.08 - 11:59 pm | #
Methinks I shall investigate this "kill file"....
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.26.08 - 11:59 pm | #
Hey, I just posted one!
About goddamned time.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.26.08 - 11:59 pm | #
David Derbes, textifyin' -- That's a great list. "My Favorite Year" is another that's a shot in the arm for me.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.26.08 - 11:59 pm | #
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
With no doctor keeping their eyes moist. In Clockwork, there was a man next to Alex putting saline in his eyes. That was a real eye doctor who did that to prevent McDowell from going blind.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.26.08 - 11:59 pm | #
If I had posted my Ace in the Hole comment on Redstate there would have been a giant, thundering collective . .
"huh?"
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.27.08 - 12:00 am | #
"cult of babies"
oh yeah. That part gets old quick.
nick carraway |
01.27.08 - 12:01 am | #
Richard - that's not possible: I don't sign anything
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.27.08 - 12:01 am | #
priam, STOP SHOUTING. 'Kay???
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.27.08 - 12:01 am | #
Thanks, Sparkle. "My Favorite Year" is excellent.
David Derbes, textifyin' |
01.27.08 - 12:01 am | #
Or just a dark screen. As long as the eye gadget is used.
In flight school, they stick you in a room without a single source of light illuminated. Pitch black. You cannot see anything at all. Freaky feeling.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.27.08 - 12:01 am | #
Has anyone seen "Gone, Baby, Gone"?
Heard it was good.
Karin |
01.27.08 - 12:02 am | #
"cult of babies"
oh yeah. That part gets old quick.
Makes me want to barf.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.27.08 - 12:02 am | #
I have an autographed copy of Robert Burns' poetry. Not autographed by the Bard. Whoever it was who gave it as a Birthday present. -Snow, Sombody's Gerry
see, that's funny - I have an autogrphed puck from Wayne Gretzky - Happy B-Day Great One!
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01.27.08 - 12:02 am | #
n flight school, they stick you in a room without a single source of light illuminated. Pitch black. You cannot see anything at all. Freaky feeling.
Then something cold and slimy touches the nape of your neck...
Echidne |
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01.27.08 - 12:02 am | #
You cannot see anything at all. Freaky feeling.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry
Very claustrophobic, I would imagine. Or maybe that was the test.
MP |
01.27.08 - 12:03 am | #
Thanks, Sparkle. "My Favorite Year" is excellent.
David Derbes, textifyin'
You're plastered!
So are some of the greatest erections in Europe!
Darryl, skywatcher |
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01.27.08 - 12:03 am | #
I'm currently reading 'Blonde Faith' by Walter Mosely.
Karin
Is that the one that he says is the last Easy Rawlins novel? I've heard Mosley speak. He's great. Signed a couple of books for us, too.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.27.08 - 12:03 am | #
Cult of Babynality
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.27.08 - 12:03 am | #
...I would imagine that this probably isn't the place and time to declare my admiration for "Paint Your Wagon" and "Sometimes A Great Notion"...
Not to mention "Casablanca", although David Derbes covered it above...
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01.27.08 - 12:03 am | #
"cult of babies"
oh yeah. That part gets old quick.
nick carraway | 01.27.08 - 12:01 am | #
I remember when holiday cards actually had illustrations on them. Now people send pictures of their kids. Frankly, I'm not that interested.
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.27.08 - 12:03 am | #
In flight school, they stick you in a room without a single source of light illuminated. Pitch black. You cannot see anything at all. Freaky feeling.
Did UR eyes start seeing odd things?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.27.08 - 12:03 am | #
in flight school, they stick you in a room without a single source of light illuminated. Pitch black. You cannot see anything at all. Freaky feeling.
You can't hail from a really rural area. It was pitch black at night where I grew up.
Echidne |
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01.27.08 - 12:04 am | #
Very claustrophobic, I would imagine. Or maybe that was the test.
Could be. Or it was that one night at Captain Flounder's.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.27.08 - 12:04 am | #
I watched part of Top Gun today. It was hilarious.
Tom Skerrit looked like Andrei Tarkovsky.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.27.08 - 12:04 am | #
Has anyone seen "Gone, Baby, Gone"?
Heard it was good.
Karin | 01.27.08 - 12:02 am | #
Yeah, it is. Ben Affleck should stick to directing. His brother is really good.
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.27.08 - 12:04 am | #
I remember when holiday cards actually had illustrations on them. Now people send pictures of their kids. Frankly, I'm not that interested.
Me either.
Sigh. My goddaughter had her first child last week. She extracted a promise from me that I would do his first baby pics.
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01.27.08 - 12:05 am | #
Has anyone seen "Gone, Baby, Gone"?
Heard it was good.
Karin
I really liked it. It was painfully Southie sometimes.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.27.08 - 12:05 am | #
You can't hail from a really rural area. It was pitch black at night where I grew up.
Echidne
But very starry at times as well, I bet.
MP |
01.27.08 - 12:05 am | #
Did UR eyes start seeing odd things?
Didn't see a single thing. Then there was this really bright light . . .
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.27.08 - 12:06 am | #
Yeah, it is. Ben Affleck should stick to directing. His brother is really good.
I think he wants to.
And I think he's fine when he does smaller, character parts.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.27.08 - 12:06 am | #
I used to watch "All About Eve" every time it was on teevee. Great movie ... acting, writing, costumes ... and Better Davis and Marilyn Monroe in the same movie. Talk about a study in contrasts ...
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.27.08 - 12:06 am | #
Witness (Weir)
I like his movies.
Gallipoli
Fearless
Master and Commander
good stuff.
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01.27.08 - 12:06 am | #
You can't hail from a really rural area. It was pitch black at night where I grew up.
Echidne
But very starry at times as well, I bet.
Yes, of course. It was quite beautiful when the moon was out. And totally silent at night, too..
Echidne |
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01.27.08 - 12:06 am | #
Since it's midnight, it's well past time for a less Republican video. And it's not even a blogwhore!
Sinfonian, Swedish skullfucker |
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01.27.08 - 12:06 am | #
Thanks, Sparkle. "My Favorite Year" is excellent.
David Derbes, textifyin'
"Ladies are unwell, Stoneberg. Gentleman vomit."
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.27.08 - 12:07 am | #
I used to watch "All About Eve" every time it was on teevee. Great movie ... acting, writing, costumes ... and Better Davis and Marilyn Monroe in the same movie. Talk about a study in contrasts ...
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out
The studio is still paying off the cigarette tab for that movie.
MP |
01.27.08 - 12:07 am | #
Is that the one that he says is the last Easy Rawlins novel? I've heard Mosley speak. He's great. Signed a couple of books for us, too.
I think it is. I love him. I saw him on an amazing panel discussion with Ishmael Reed on CSPAN once. They talked a lot about politics.
Karin |
01.27.08 - 12:07 am | #
I used to watch "All About Eve" every time it was on teevee. Great movie ... acting, writing, costumes ... and Better Davis and Marilyn Monroe in the same movie. Talk about a study in contrasts ...
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
I love Bette Davis.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.27.08 - 12:07 am | #
Sometimes A Great Notion
I was at a stoplight once in Springfield, Oregon and I looked out the window and Kesey was there in a truck. He grinned at me. I lived off that for 18 months.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.27.08 - 12:07 am | #
And I think he's fine when he does smaller, character parts.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 12:06 am | #
Oh, I think he's a decent actor. He mostly chose shitty parts. But his direction was really great.
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.27.08 - 12:08 am | #
Casey Affleck got an Oscar nomination for "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford"
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.27.08 - 12:08 am | #
Notice the little grabby feeties and claws.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.27.08 - 12:08 am | #
You can't hail from a really rural area. It was pitch black at night where I grew up.
Starlight on a cloudy night would still provide a very little bit of illumination.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.27.08 - 12:08 am | #
When the Redstaters get liquored up and post late at night do they share and banter about - what? Jeff Foxworthy and Mallard Fillmore?
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.27.08 - 12:09 am | #
When the Redstaters get liquored up and post late at night do they share and banter about - what? Jeff Foxworthy and Mallard Fillmore?
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
How much they would like to do Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.27.08 - 12:09 am | #
Nobody's gonna mention The Maltese Falcon?
Okay, I will.
Jim, Collieresque |
01.27.08 - 12:09 am | #
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 12:06 am | #
Superb film. Great direction, dialogue, and acting...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.27.08 - 12:10 am | #
The studio is still paying off the cigarette tab for that movie.
MP | 01.27.08 - 12:07 am | #
Heh.
"Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy night."
One of the all-time great movie lines.
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.27.08 - 12:10 am | #
They show Gallipoli in schools in NZ
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.27.08 - 12:10 am | #
Sometimes A Great Notion
I was at a stoplight once in Springfield, Oregon and I looked out the window and Kesey was there in a truck. He grinned at me. I lived off that for 18 months.
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
An interesting guy. Taught my future ex-wife how to read.
shawk |
01.27.08 - 12:10 am | #
When the Redstaters get liquored up and post late at night do they share and banter about - what? Jeff Foxworthy and Mallard Fillmore?
Reagan. And how many chimpy is.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.27.08 - 12:10 am | #
When the Redstaters get liquored up and post late at night do they share and banter about - what? Jeff Foxworthy and Mallard Fillmore?
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
They sure as fuck don't talk about seeing Ken Kesey at a stoplight.
MP |
01.27.08 - 12:11 am | #
You can't hail from a really rural area. It was pitch black at night where I grew up.
Echidne
But very starry at times as well, I bet.
MP
And it pitcher black (pitch blacker) after 50 when your eyes begin to go.
But, yeah, the stars . . . Last night they were amazing.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.27.08 - 12:11 am | #
When the Redstaters get liquored up and post late at night do they share and banter about - what? Jeff Foxworthy and Mallard Fillmore?
WalterNeff
Ross Douthat, who is I gather one of the conservatives that we're supposed to take seriously, said the new Rambo movie contains great insight into what Real Americans think of Iraq. Or something.
Jim, Collieresque |
01.27.08 - 12:11 am | #
They show Gallipoli in schools in NZ
What about Breaker Morant. Another Lord Kitchner production.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
01.27.08 - 12:11 am | #
When the Redstaters get liquored up and post late at night do they share and banter about - what? Jeff Foxworthy and Mallard Fillmore?
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac
"... did you see that B.C. about jesus? that was awsome."
"...jonny hart rulz!"
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.27.08 - 12:11 am | #
oh, oh i have one i have one!!
[frantically waving arm from back of the class]
Miller's Crossing!
and Barton Fink
TEBB |
01.27.08 - 12:11 am | #
Superb film. Great direction, dialogue, and acting...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 01.27.08 - 12:10 am | #
And costumes by Edith Head.
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.27.08 - 12:11 am | #
said the new Rambo movie contains great insight into what Real Americans think of Iraq. Or something.
Holy shit.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.27.08 - 12:12 am | #
Breaker Morant
Edward Woodward rulz all. Too bad about the wicker thing - the niavete, it burns!
WalterNeff, dyscalculiac |
01.27.08 - 12:12 am | #
Nobody's gonna mention The Maltese Falcon?
Okay, I will.
Jim, Collieresque | 01.27.08 - 12:09 am | #
Bogart. One of a kind. Not even good looking, really, but when he's on screen you can't take your eyes off him.
Brooklyn Girl, hangin' out |
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01.27.08 - 12:12 am | #
I could go out right now, with the snow on the ground, and walk wherever I wanted without a flashlight... in fact, I usually do that a couple of times in the winter.
nick carraway |
01.27.08 - 12:12 am | #
Reagan. And how many chimpy is.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
How many what?
Kinds of stupid?
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.27.08 - 12:13 am | #
Let's see:
Wuthering Heights
Now Voyager
In This Our Life
Dark Victory
Casablanca
Bell Book and Candle
Blossoms In The Dust
The Oscar (guilty pleasure)
The Wicker Man (the original)
Just about any Vincent Price movie
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.27.08 - 12:13 am | #
I meant to type manly. BUT MADDIE WUZ BITING MAH FINGERS
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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01.27.08 - 12:14 am | #
Just about any Vincent Price movie
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 12:13 am | #
Did you see Conqueror Worm (aka Witchfinder General)?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.27.08 - 12:15 am | #
Ed Wood
Isle of the Dead
Bedlam
Targets (all 3 Karloff films)
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.27.08 - 12:15 am | #
Sometimes A Great Notion -- Aka Never Give an Inch. That title was the one bad thing about the movie.
My partner had a correspondence with Kesey during his last years, and we met him in person when the drove Further to Cleveland to give it to the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame. He and his pals we some of the nicest people I've ever met, absolutely there.
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Sparkle Plenty |
01.27.08 - 12:15 am | #
Did you see Conqueror Worm (aka Witchfinder General)?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Didn't like that one.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.27.08 - 12:15 am | #
My favorite Peter Weir films are The Last Wave and Picnic at Hanging Rock.
The Last Wave is especially good.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.27.08 - 12:15 am | #
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 12:15 am | #
I liked it. The uncut version is slightly different than the American cut (though not by much).
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.27.08 - 12:16 am | #
Johnny Hart's getting rogered by Ayn Rand with a strap on while Reagan relives his movie career in one of Hell's poorer quarters right about now.
sidhra صي ذ& |
01.27.08 - 12:17 am | #
The Heiress
Shakespeare in Love
Infamous (the other Capote film)
Angel and Insects
Miracle on 34th Street
A Christmas Carol (1951)
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.27.08 - 12:17 am | #
Johnny Hart's getting rogered by Ayn Rand with a strap on while Reagan relives his movie career in one of Hell's poorer quarters right about now.
sidhra صي ذ& | 01.27.08 - 12:17
Reagan's getting rogered by Pinochet.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.27.08 - 12:20 am | #
Pinochet.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 12:20 am | #
Just got done with The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein. Pinochet figures in there prominently....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
01.27.08 - 12:24 am | #