I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarME!!!


GravatarHIM!!


GravatarI can't believe I was that close to first.


GravatarMy mouth tastes like someone just shat in it.


Gravatarhttp://blackveils.com/wordpress/?p=13

Christmas.

And so to bed.


GravatarShazbot, saw the opening, went with the Simels snark... sorry, A-man.


Gravatarah - namestealer


Gravatarfreaks!


GravatarRon Paul on Cspan2.


GravatarI think I'll stick around for awhile.


GravatarHmm, gonna do an experiment and drag the vacuum into my study. See if she follows.


GravatarHello you fine people


GravatarRon Paul says federal lending laws mandate banks to make subprime loans.


GravatarSo am I enjoying the enjoyment? Or enjoying the nations lonely eyes?

This blogoworld stuff moves too fast for me.


GravatarMy mouth tastes like someone just shat in it. - EvilWalterNeff, deceitful | 12.22.07 - 1:17 am | #


I don't blame Simels, namestealer, I congratulate him. No magnificent nut sac for you.


GravatarSallyh -

He's gotta have an angel looking over him - or else he'd have been gone at the scene.

I hope and pray that he'll live - and that this will be the life-changing experience he's needed for years.


GravatarSo am I enjoying the enjoyment? Or enjoying the nations lonely eyes?


yeah, these guys need to get their stories straight!


GravatarRon Paul says the income tax makes the government the owner of all our income.


GravatarRon Paul says entitlements have become rights


Gravatar{{{WalterNeff!!!}}}

Skittles? 


GravatarI'm watching Zombie Cannibal exploitation flicks tonight because I've never seen one.

Pretty boring stuff once you get past the gore.


GravatarSo, with this whole Bush administration thing, who get's the girl in the end?


GravatarRon Paul says excessive government spending will never be reigned in as long as the government can either print more money or levy a new tax.


GravatarSallyh...I second Roadmaster. But Jesus God-damn!!! WTF, WTF, WTF!!!


GravatarRoadie, I hope so, too.

Regardless, the marriage is over.


Gravatar...Ron Paul is nutzo....


GravatarRon Paul = Nut Baul.


GravatarI'm watching Zombie Cannibal exploitation flicks tonight because I've never seen one.

Dude, the gore is the entire point of the flick!


GravatarRon Paul looks good in a sweater.


GravatarRon Paul says the very idea of a federal government is a moral hazard.


GravatarSinfonian, let me guess, the Sinfonianettes are in the house.


GravatarRon Paul says inflation is a sign that empires have gone too far.


GravatarRegardless, the marriage is over.

But you will be tied to him, through Maddie, until he goes away. Believe me, I know this story - or at least one version of it.


Gravatar...maybe my new nym should be Jack K., Moral Hazard...


GravatarSallyh -

Do you feel - as I kind-of do, distant as I am - that this crash was somehow karma or kizmet or otherwise cosmically slapping him back after all he's put everyone else around him through?


GravatarAnd Ron Paul says you can feed a family of four for a week on a dollar of tofu.


GravatarRon Paul says the American people are being taxed to blow up bridges in Iraq.


GravatarFrom below: This post was informed by the TV show Reaper:
Dear EkCenTriK.

What was the last thing that you vacuumed up? Was it animal, vegetable or mineral? There are some items that, when vacuumed up in a non-hepa vacuum spread into the air like catnip. Pepperment tea is one of these items. There are other items that do the same.

Empty the vacuum and clean it out thoughly out side. Restart it out side and let it run for awhile to rid it of excess dust. The problem should be solved.

The other reason could be that while you were away a couple of people came into your house and stole the ashes from the urn of your loved one. During the robbery they knocked some ashes on the floor which they used your vacuum cleaner to get rid of the evidence.
Check your Urn(s) to see if they are still full.
There have been a rash of ash thefts lately. The thieves use the ashes to either send souls back to hell or hold them for ransom. If you get a ransom know you know what they want.
Hopefully they won't be used in some bizarre ritual.
Your cat is tipping you off, you should thank him with a saucer of milk and some salmon.


Gravatar"Check your Urn(s) to see if they are still full. "

While it might seem a bit creepy, all of our felinical friends over the years that have moved on are in urns with us. Unfortunately, it is becoming a collection.

The agreement between the wife and myself is whoever is left will find an appropriate place to spread them. I have to admit that at whatever level it comes from, I can't stand the idea of them being estranged from one another.

Cats can extract a price including our mental health sometimes.


GravatarJack K.
will have to give the deschutes a try


Gravataryeah, these guys need to get their stories straight!
racymind


Yeah. I'm teh confused.


GravatarI have come to have to believe in karma (and I disrespect Xians!!! ha!! hypocrite, much???) because I need to believe that my g'dtr's spirit chose her end and paid for heavy levy by doing so.


GravatarRon Paul says war itself is an unconstitutional deprivation of the right to life.


GravatarRon Paul says the American people are being taxed to keep Todd Bridges in jail.
rake

Frankfurtered your Turd.


GravatarRoadie, let's just say it made the universe feel a bit more equilibrated.

But it sucked anyway.


GravatarRon Paul says the very idea of a federal government is a moral hazard.
rake


I take it he was one of the few in his age cohort who never grew up knowing a polio victim.

Who the fuck does he think underwrote a cure?


Gravatarmumble mumble, mumble mumble, mumble mumble - fart


GravatarPaul says he's for nuclear power as long as the federal government isn't involved.


GravatarSarah, in reference to your beloved Alora:

As Terry Pratchett says, there's no justice.  There's just you.


GravatarIt's gonna be a long siege if he survives the next two days, Sallyh. You need to prepare yourself for what may seem to be an endless loop of bad news.


GravatarI've already packed on five pounds to my ass from the holiday food alone.


GravatarBut it sucked anyway.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

Schadenfreude loses its luster when it's so heavily ground down.

Again, best thoughts/hopes/wishes/prayers.

Stay strong. And know we're here to help. (May I offer Kopp's Chocolate Raspberry Cheesecake from tonight's specials?)


GravatarMany Commas, I'm pretty sure this is not going to be easy.  Mlle knows it won't be, either.

I think she may have chosen a decent bf this time.  He's understanding of what she has to do and supports her completely.


GravatarRoadie, did you just say Kopp's Chocolate Raspberry Cheesecake?

(Faints with ecstasy)


GravatarWho the fuck does he think underwrote a cure? -MP

that's a good point ... you really seem particularly interested on this point, as am I, can we email each other?


Gravatarthat's a good point ... you really seem particularly interested on this point, as am I, can we email each other?
Bawhahhahahaha.


GravatarI want Sallyh to be able to report some good news in '08. 2007 was a shit year for her.


GravatarPaul says he's for nuclear power as long as the federal government isn't involved.

Yep, the Government can't do anything right except funnel money to my buddies.

"We can do the same thing governments do for five times the cost and none of that pesky oversight!
-Erik Prince Blackwater


Gravatar"History? Who needs it? It's already happened." [/GWB


GravatarPrivate industry doesn't have the capital for nuclear.


GravatarI want Sallyh to be able to report some good news in '08. 2007 was a shit year for her.
MP


GravatarMP, well, I did get some baking done.  My granddaughter is healthy and beautiful.  Our cats and dog are hanging out with Monsieur and me.  I have many wonderful friends, great students, (mostly) excellent colleagues, the best husband ever, and while our cash burn rate has been alarming, we're still getting it done.

It's not all terrible.  Not by a long shot.


GravatarI want a fuck buddy, you fuckin' pussies!


GravatarI'm always astonished at my namestealer's lack of creativity.


GravatarPaul says he's for nuclear power as long as the federal government isn't involved.

Yeah, the US gummint will turn over its stockpiles, and only ask for a triannual report, if at all doable.


Gravatarwill have to give the deschutes a try
ErinPDX


...it is rather nice, if you like a more hoppy beer. Bought some tonight for a get-together with some old friends from teh St. Helens eruption days who live in the area(sort of a South-Central Orygun version of Drinking Liberally) and have been engaged in destroying the evidence (we really were DFH's back in the day)...

By the way, saw your comment about the moon coming out. It is spectacular here tonight with the 3/4 moon shining on the snow-laden trees and a couple of feet of new snow and all the stars out. Not quite moonlight-skiing quality yet, but "White Christmas" isn't going to be a problem...


GravatarRon Paul says inflated home prices aren't even included in the CPI.


Gravatar"He asked to see Mlle tomorrow before he went to surgery. She has to--it's the decent thing to do. "

Man I missed all of that. Sheesh.


"She has to--it's the decent thing to do."

I have to say I would see it otherwise considering all that has gone before.

But then I advocate grudges as a healthy thing.


GravatarSallyh...thanks for the comment re: Alora. I know I just have to suck it up, because nothing is going to change (Reality); I just have to adapt. Some times are better than others for that, as I imagine you know well.

I am very happy that the lovely Mlle has a good bf this time to support and love her, and I hope very much that the former SIL gets some edumacation from this terrible accident and straughtens up his fucking act.


GravatarFriday Fucking Nudibranch Blogging, ya goddamn dirty dog dicks.

Enjoy!


GravatarEkCenTrik, I think grudges are the staff of life. 

But she'll go and ask what he needed to see her for.




GravatarI want Sallyh to be able to report some good news in '08. 2007 was a shit year for her.
MP | 12.22.07 - 1:39 am

I'll second that and for Sarah Deere too.

My friend often has a solstice party tonight but she was sick this year. We write down our hopes and wishes for the new year, what we are grateful for and what we want to let go of.
We burn the sheets of paper that we wrote on the things we want to let go of.


GravatarSarah, your loss of Alora still angers me.

Bush and Cheney live, and your lovely grandbaby was cruelly taken.  I have a hard time with that.


GravatarSarah, your loss of Alora still angers me.

Bush and Cheney live, and your lovely grandbaby was cruelly taken. I have a hard time with that.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

word


GravatarDo inflated home values count as national savings?


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yUTJQIBI1oA

Have a good laugh!


GravatarJesus, if you're going to namesteal me, be original.


GravatarSheets again...


GravatarDoes this thong make me look fat?


GravatarRon Paul says that my Congressperson should give me head any time I ask for it.


GravatarI'm always astonished at my namestealer's lack of creativity.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

Yeah, the US gummint will turn over its stockpiles, and only ask for a triannual report, if at all doable. -MP

it's out there in plain sight ...


GravatarSallyh,

Couple possible scenarios -

He may pull right through now that surgery has corrected some of the major problems. He may get off the vent, off the drips in short order because he is so young.

He may suffer one major complication after another, like dominos falling, and end up in ICU for a month or more.

He may be suffer a few treatable complications which will extend his ICU stay for a few days but eventually leave and go to a regular nursing unit.

His youth is on his side. Having said that, it reads that he has a LOT of major injuries and fractures.
Expect some setbacks.


GravatarerinPDX, the "shutes" is the most beautiful river in the world. when my son was young and we visited there, he said, in wonder, "look at that river riv!"



GravatarMany Commas, he ain't that young--nearly 38.  (He's much older than Mlle).  He's Hep C+.  He's a heroin addict. 

I hope this might be a time of great clarity for him.  But that remains to be seen.


GravatarHoly shit. I thought that Romney and the pizza deal was parody.

Then I remembered that our entire political system is living parody.


GravatarRon Paul says that he likes the strained peas, but says that the banana is yucky.


Gravatar4Legs, fiction could never be this weird. 

How iz gurrlz?


GravatarRon Paul says the real healthcare crisis in this country is inflation. Paul says government mandated differential benefits led to health cost inflation. And the Democratic solution is just to print more money, levy more tax, and hand out free and unnecessary care.


Gravatarthank you all for you very, very kind comments. I so appreciate you all, you have no idea.


Gravatarit's out there in plain sight ...
rake


The fuel they burn in nuke plants or for weapons certainly is not. What in the hell are you talking about?


GravatarRake what is Ron Paul's position on the death penalty?


GravatarSarah, i feel the same about you guys.


GravatarHere in Albaquirky I have seen a lot of Ron Paul bumper stickers and signs...I'm not certain if that is what the rest of the country is seeing.
I see it as people are tired of what their standard 2 party options are but are completly ignorant as to what RP really stands for.


GravatarRon Paul says that his supporters are holding him prisoner in the headquarters of whitepower.org, and that they've threatened to start cutting off fingers unless he continues to go along with their plans.


Gravatarhe ain't that young--nearly 38. (He's much older than Mlle). He's Hep C+. He's a heroin addict.

Jesus fucking shit - I did not know that!!! No wonder you were frantic. OMFG.

Your beautiful Mlle and this...man. OMG. Thank heavens she's free of him!!! I hope he pursues his life of self-indulgence and that Maddie will live without his influence at all.

Sorry - that's how I feel.


GravatarSarah Deere -

Not much I can add, other than what's already been offered. Better tomorrows.


GravatarSarah, trust me, I've had these feelings many, many times.  Even now, I still do.


GravatarRon Paul says we've had troops in Korea since he was in high school.


GravatarOy, Sally, just saw that ex-SIL had a terrible accident.

That's really awful. And Mlle is doing the right thing.


GravatarRon Paul says that he's all for the death penalty as long as it never gets applied to any of his supporters for any reason.


Gravatar4Legs, fiction could never be this weird.

How iz gurrlz?


Gurlz are good.

Centaur is exhausted. Finished up most of my shopping today. Am looking forward to many, many, many days of sleeping really, really late.


GravatarHere in Albaquirky I have seen a lot of Ron Paul bumper stickers and signs...I'm not certain if that is what the rest of the country is seeing.

Don't really hear much about him in conversation here in Virginia. The big talk is who will succeed John Warner in the Senate.

Dude has had that seat since forever, it seems.


GravatarThere were about a dozen Paulistas at a major intersection on the Univ. of Wisconsin campus this afternoon. Not a lot of horns honking - but Madison has good Democrats (Tammy Baldwin and Russ Feingold).


GravatarWhat's the estimated yearly cost of a government guaranteed health system?


Gravatar4Legs, ironically, this time he wasn't at fault.  It may be a first.


GravatarIs there something going on with Haloscan. I swear the threads are jumping back and forth.


Gravatar4Legs, gurrlz letz u sleep lait?  I thinx no.


GravatarRon Paul says that when he gets elected the nutbags who supported him will be the first ones to taken up in that blimp and pushed out from a height of 1000 feet.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h? v=yUTJQIBI1oA

Have a good laugh!


Gravatar4Legs, ironically, this time he wasn't at fault. It may be a first.

Yeah, I went back to the earlier thread to see what happened.

I know he's been a blight to you guys, but I still can't help but hope that he gets his act together.


Gravatar4legs, I hope the same.  He has a beautiful daughter.  He owes it to her.


GravatarRon Paul says he's positioned to run a strong campaign in 20 states.


Gravatar4Legs, gurrlz letz u sleep lait? I thinx no.

They're really good. Since they prefer to eat their dry food, they never try to wake me up to feed them.


GravatarThe fuel they burn in nuke plants or for weapons certainly is not. What in the hell are you talking about?
MP


yo momma zod. where is lipreader when you need him?


GravatarMany Commas, he ain't that young--nearly 38. (He's much older than Mlle). He's Hep C+. He's a heroin addict.

His age is not that good, not that bad, Sallyh. Depends on the underlying state of health.

At this point the HepC is worse news for his caregivers than for him. ( I have seen many a heroin addict that was virtually indestructable.)

It does sound as if he has many injuries, and that much damage can cause problems greater than the sum of their parts.


I hope this might be a time of great clarity for him. But that remains to be seen.

It's highly likely he is sedated into unconsciousness at the present moment.
If his nurses are compassionate at all, he is.

I wish all of you the best.


GravatarSarah, trust me

honey, I do. Deeply.
you are one class act.


Gravatar4Legs, u taix babee insted?  I taix kittehs? 

Babee no sleepz lait.


GravatarI just blew my ass out on the shitter.


Gravatar4legs, I hope the same. He has a beautiful daughter. He owes it to her.

Yes, and I know he really loves his daughter, which makes me think that there is something in him worth saving.

(not that he and Mlle should get back together- 2 addicts together is always a recipe for disaster)


Gravatarand, roadmaster - thanks very much.
the holidaze do not necessarily bring out the best in me, I'm afraid.


GravatarWhat's the estimated yearly cost of a government guaranteed health system?
rake

Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, and dozens of other manufacturers who can't compete with companies in countries with guaranteed health care.


GravatarRon Paul says he's positioned to have the first good bowel movement he's had in a week, and that if anybody moves the bucket he's going to wind up shitting on the kitchen floor.


GravatarWow, I just saw my call for sheets farther back that I know was the bottom of two posts back.

Now I am really confused.


Gravataryou are one class act.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 1:59 am | #

LMAO. My fat ass and double trailer life? You call me class?


Gravatar4Legs, u taix babee insted?

Not on UR life.

Me and behbehs don't mix.


Gravatar4Legs, the fundoids will be raptured before Mlle and he ever have anything other than a business relationship with regards to their daughter.

He does love his daughter.  Maybe now he realizes how important she is.


GravatarI just blew my ass out on the shitter.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |

you know, I really loathe this kind of troll bs. It's always - always!!! - scatological, as though they have no other rooms in their pea brains to wander into.

What a goddamned waste of air.


GravatarSallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.22.07 - 1:59 am
Namestealer, you really are a classless jerk, aren't you? Must suck to be trapped between your pair of ears.


Gravatar4Legs, I comes vizzit u?  Ur hous nise and quiet?


GravatarThe piles are acting up again. It pains me just to sit.


GravatarWow, I just saw my call for sheets farther back that I know was the bottom of two posts back.

Now I am really confused.


Whatcha smokin'?


Gravatar4Legs, the fundoids will be raptured before Mlle and he ever have anything other than a business relationship with regards to their daughter.

He does love his daughter. Maybe now he realizes how important she is.


I'm betting almost losing custody was his wake up call- and this will be another one.


Awwww... gurl kittehs are giving each other nice kisses. What sweet girls.


GravatarEk, it's like great art--you just have to let it wash over you


GravatarRon Paul actually makes sense compared to Mitt Romney. But then again, Mitt Romney made way more sense than Ron Paul when Mitt Romney was was running for Massachusetts Senate against Ted Kennedy in 1994.

Who knew 1994 would be a halcyon year ?

Thers ?


GravatarLegs, I comes vizzit u? Ur hous nise and quiet?

I don't know about quiet. Lots of trilling, meowing and thundering paws going on.

Fortunately I sleep like the dead.


GravatarTry Preperation H, Sarah. It's done wonders for my soreness.


Gravatar"Ek, it's like great art"

Obviously Haloscan has been working on it's sense of nuance. Subtle, but effective.


GravatarMany Commas, unconscious and on a ventilator. 

I'm not even sure he'll be awake when Mlle gets there.


GravatarPoo poo! Doody! Kaka peepee! Weenie! Po-po!


GravatarI saw my father march with MLK.


GravatarWells, bedtime 4 dis centaur.

I iz very, very, very tired.


Gravatarand, roadmaster - thanks very much.
the holidaze do not necessarily bring out the best in me, I'm afraid.
Sarah Deere

Nor me, SD. FYI - my mom is in hospital right now - pressure sores at her assisted living place blew up over a month (and three visits to the specialized wound care clinic) - primary called her into the hospital - stage four sacral wound (11 x 5 x 4), osteomylitis (infected bone marrow), and *surprise* a fractured hip that was starting to heal.

Lawyers, guns, and money. Zevon knew.


GravatarI saw my father land on the moon with Neil Armstrong.


Gravatarbo | 12.22.07 - 2:04 am | #

Whatever, nutless.


GravatarI don't know about quiet. Lots of trilling, meowing and thundering paws going on.

Thas not noiz! 

Elmo and Law and Order SVU no stop, thas noiz!


GravatarMany Commas, unconscious and on a ventilator.

I'm not even sure he'll be awake when Mlle gets there.


Probably not, but when he eventually does wake up and find out that she was there, it will help him.


GravatarI saw my dog shit all over my car after I strapped his ass to the roof.


Gravatar4Legs, let's hope that he might recognize that the universe ain't working in his favor about now.


GravatarI saw my Mom washing Dad's magic underwear.


GravatarMP/zod is trying to hide its IP ... we are searching it ... more later


GravatarRoadie, I'm very sorry about your mom.  And your ex.  Hasn't been a wonderful year for you, either.  I wish you a much better 2008.


GravatarQuit your bitching SallyH. You've always got some DRAMA going everytime I visit.


GravatarI saw my Mom washing Dad's magic underwear.

Underneath the mistletoe last night!


GravatarMany Commas, unconscious and on a ventilator.


That's exactly what I would expect. Mlle will feel better knowing she did the right thing.

She may need a lot of emotional support after seeing the father of her child like that. Best to be prepared.


Gravatar"I saw my Mom washing Dad's magic underwear."

Oh great, now he is keeping the Setter in his shorts.

This guy just doesn't have a clue on how to transport household pets.


Gravatarbo | 12.22.07 - 2:08 am | #

So namestealer, when's the last time you got laid?


GravatarYou call me class?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

Yes, and I'll have no arguments from you, dear. It's the fucking truth. You're one classy lady.


GravatarThanks, Sallyh -

(And actually I'm still with what's her name...actually had good news about her brother and sis-in-law earlier this evening.)


GravatarDid I ever tell you how batshit insane I am?


GravatarMany Commas, plan goes like this: she goes in the early a.m.  BF will come to the house and wait for her to return.  If she feels up to it, they'll go Christmas shopping.  If she doesn't, or wants to be alone, he'll head out and do what he needs to do until she feels like she wants company.  I will take the baby later in the day to see her grandmother. 


GravatarNamestealer acts like a fucking low-life 13 year old.


GravatarI get laid all the time. That's why I'm on the computer chatting with a bunch of losers while I snack on my cheetohs.


GravatarSo namestealer, when's the last time you got laid?
bo

His blow-up doll deflates in horror when he approaches it.


Gravatarbut when he eventually does wake up and find out that she was there, it will help him.

None of my business but it sounds like an opportunity for them to bond. Pardon my opinion...

In light of everything you and mlle have been through I hope SIL has an appointment wit Jesus.


GravatarI made up an entire religion by staring into a hat with "magic" stones in it, and these stupid yokels believed me!


GravatarMany Commas, plan goes like this: she goes in the early a.m. BF will come to the house and wait for her to return. If she feels up to it, they'll go Christmas shopping. If she doesn't, or wants to be alone, he'll head out and do what he needs to do until she feels like she wants company. I will take the baby later in the day to see her grandmother.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.22.07 - 2:11 am | #


DRAMA.


GravatarRoadmaster...my condolences. And, yes, Zevon did know. Wish no one else had to. 2007? Shove it up the annals of Time, goodbye.

Best to you, dear.


GravatarMr. French, I heard Mlle talking with the ex MIL on the phone.  She said, understand that while I have compassion for him, this marriage is done, fucked, ruined and over.


Gravatar bo | 12.22.07 - 2:12 am | #

Question still stands, Sweetie. When did you last get any? Or are you going to let the crickets do the talking?


GravatarSallyh,

He may need to be on the vent for a while. MAYBE they will be able to take him off by morning, but more probably he will be on for a while. If he is on a vent, he should be heavily sedated for vent control. He may be able to respond to voice, he many not. Deends on the drugs given and if there is a head injury or not.

I feel , really feel, for the baby's other grandma.


GravatarMr. French, I heard Mlle talking with the ex MIL on the phone. She said, understand that while I have compassion for him, this marriage is done, fucked, ruined and over.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.22.07 - 2:13 am | #

DRAMA.


GravatarEnkew, SD.

None of us get out of here alive - but we all deserve a chance to LIVE while we are here.


GravatarI'll write you a "Book of" for twelve dollars and your teenage daughter.


GravatarQuestion still stands, Sweetie. When did you last get any? Or are you going to let the crickets do the talking?
bo | 12.22.07 - 2:14 am | #

Are you proposing?


GravatarMany Commas, baby's other grandma is a complete bint.  She's been her son's enabler his entire life.  She thought my daughter deserved to be abused.  She put covering her son's ass over her granddaughter's safety.

But yeah, right now, all I can say is, I wouldn't want to be her.  That's her only child.  If she loses him, Maddy's her last link to the future. 


GravatarWhat's wrong namestealer? Too much of a fucking coward to discuss anything?


GravatarWhy can't the namestealing trolls have their own phony name like everyone else?


GravatarDRAMA.
bo |


That's what I'm talkin' about.


Been there done that learned my lesson.


Gravatarbo | 12.22.07 - 2:15 am | #

Never been shot down 'cause you never had the courage to ask? That's it, I bet.


GravatarSallyh....do what you need to do. Sounds like Mlle is responding logically, sanely. I do feel sorry for ther "other" grandma, but the main deal is to protect Maddie, at all costs. I know you and Mlle will be fair. Just don't be overly so, which means, don't give too much to them, or more than they would logically be entitled to. People will pull your compassion strings at times like these. They are not permitted to. IMHO.


GravatarI tried to take over several towns, but people got tired of my shit and killed me.

I deserved it, though.


GravatarMany Commas, baby's other grandma is a complete bint. She's been her son's enabler his entire life. She thought my daughter deserved to be abused. She put covering her son's ass over her granddaughter's safety.

But yeah, right now, all I can say is, I wouldn't want to be her. That's her only child. If she loses him, Maddy's her last link to the future.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.22.07 - 2:16 am | #

More DRAMA.


GravatarMany Commas, baby's other grandma is a complete bint. She's been her son's enabler his entire life. She thought my daughter deserved to be abused. She put covering her son's ass over her granddaughter's safety.

As bo said moments ago...


Gravatarwe all deserve a chance to LIVE while we are here.
Roadmaster,

a-fucking-men.


Gravatar...Atrios, I will click on all of the Eschaton Ads multiple times and maybe even hit the Paypal button if you will only send me your Haloscan username/password combo. I have some things to take care of, and my u/p combo won't work...



GravatarSallyh....do what you need to do. Sounds like Mlle is responding logically, sanely. I do feel sorry for ther "other" grandma, but the main deal is to protect Maddie, at all costs. I know you and Mlle will be fair. Just don't be overly so, which means, don't give too much to them, or more than they would logically be entitled to. People will pull your compassion strings at times like these. They are not permitted to. IMHO.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 2:18 am | #


Look at me FEED the DRAMA.


GravatarI'm deformed.


GravatarSarah, oh, they most certainly are not entitled to do that. 

Since the ex is an opiate addict already, and will probably accelerate his drugging behaviors in recovery, she's going to discuss with her attorney as to whether unsupervised visitation is a good idea.  She doesn't trust him.  His visitation is limited as is, and I imagine his daughter will be important to his recovery, but there is no way he can spend his life drugged out and be an adequate parent.


GravatarAs bo said moments ago...
Mr French |

oh fuck you namestealing bastards.

don;t you get it? we CARE about each other here. This shit is just shit to us, an irritation, nothing more.


GravatarSarah, the least our namestealers could do is demonstrate a bit of creativity.  It's always the same old same old.


GravatarGoodnight, all you sane non-namestealing mofo's.


GravatarQuestion still stands, Sweetie. When did you last get any? Or are you going to let the crickets do the talking?
bo


just remember this when they respond to: MP, lipreader, econ, or any other of the paid whores ...


GravatarSarah, don't let them push you.


GravatarNamestealers really are incapable of adult conversation. Way too stupid to breathe.


Gravatarthere is no way he can spend his life drugged out and be an adequate parent.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

I have been through this my own self. NO...absolutely NO unsupervised visitation. None.


GravatarJesus, I think they're dateless high school kids myself.

Anyone over the age of 19 with half a functioning brain could do better than these losers


GravatarAh, I see Sallyh. In that case, I agree completely with Sarah D about the baby.

Sarah said:
"Sallyh....do what you need to do. Sounds like Mlle is responding logically, sanely. I do feel sorry for ther "other" grandma, but the main deal is to protect Maddie, at all costs. I know you and Mlle will be fair. Just don't be overly so, which means, don't give too much to them, or more than they would logically be entitled to. People will pull your compassion strings at times like these. They are not permitted to. IMHO."


I think she is absolutely right.


GravatarSarah, I imagine once Mlle's lawyer gets back from seeing his family in New Orleans, he'll feel the same way.


GravatarSarah, don't let them push you.
EkCenTriK

good advice, dear one. I am loaded for bear and just want to smack someone, I guess.......I'm such an idiot.


GravatarSarah, oh, they most certainly are not entitled to do that.

Since the ex is an opiate addict already, and will probably accelerate his drugging behaviors in recovery, she's going to discuss with her attorney as to whether unsupervised visitation is a good idea. She doesn't trust him. His visitation is limited as is, and I imagine his daughter will be important to his recovery, but there is no way he can spend his life drugged out and be an adequate parent.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.22.07 - 2:20 am | #

More DRAMA. Everyone please pay attention to Sally.


GravatarSarah, no problem with smacking idiots.  Shame they're so uneducable, though.


GravatarI'm so blue. Nobody ever wants to namesteal me. Nobody wuvs me.


Gravatargood advice, dear one. I am loaded for bear and just want to smack someone, I guess.......I'm such an idiot.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 2:23 am | #

Who are you gong to smack?


Gravatar"Jesus, I think they're dateless high school kids myself."

Young Republicans experiencing that fast paced life of action as they shape and mold the future of the country.

I am sure they are High Fiving and slapping each on their collective rears as we speak.


GravatarMy mother was distant and my sister touched me there.


GravatarEk, we can take some small satisfaction in that none of them knows what a rainbow is


GravatarThe adolescents came here because the bowling alleys are all closed, and they can't call and ask "do you have 15 pound balls? Well, wear baggy pants!" *click*


GravatarI was sitting thinking about this sub prime mess. I still am amazed on the portion representing speculators on their homes.

The housing market went the way stocks did. I am thinking of Day Traders who didn't grasp what they were doing.


GravatarI was talking to an artist friend tonight about how THIS Christmas feels vs. LAST Christmas. We don't feel hopeful. Now it feels like we are all waiting for "The bad man to go away."

The Democrats are playing out the clock. In the mean time the bad men just keeps doing more and more terrible things. The Dick Cheney fire. How much you want to bet that was some obstruction of justice going on there?
She had not heard about the Sen Dodd Filibuster that lead to the immunity for telcos being postponed and she follows politics.
And as the country is in debt and foreclosures are ramping up it's like we are all holding our breath for some massive collapse or event. But we know it will be a NEGATIVE event, not something uplifting and grand.

Personally I'm tired of constantly living in fear.I'm alway thinking of the future and envisioning the worst. I've been trained to fear the future and "the other". I've been told that the brown people want to kill me and that we have to be subhuman torturers in order deal with a threat that involves a small number of people.

I'm tired of people constantly "getting away with it"
No one is punished, no one is accountable.

Our media doesn't seem to get that we would like the truth which will help with the whole "holding people accountable"
I'm tired of opinions being the same as facts and how reality is "balanced" by lies.

We were all so happy about the Dodd win, yet it like "Hey we postponed something horrible from happening after we mobilized a massive group of people. Do we HAVE to keep doing the work of our elected "leaders" And we are doing it for free.

And I'm also pissed that the people who lobby and spew money at the reps for a living are never held accountable that they can defy the will of the people with so much ease.

In the movie "The power of Nightmares" they talked about how Government Leaders have gone from offering people a better life and hope to see who could scare the people the most and then offer to protect them.


GravatarSince the ex is an opiate addict already, and will probably accelerate his drugging behaviors in recovery


It's highly likely he is receiving opiates in the ICU.


GravatarEk, we can take some small satisfaction in that none of them knows what a rainbow is
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.22.07 - 2:26 am | #

It's the faggot symbol.


GravatarNamestealer,
looks like the crickets won. Your silence roars of your insecurity. You can't stand up and be seen, can you?


When's the last time you got laid?


GravatarI am trying to figure out why I am wide awake.


GravatarI actually knew a Young Republican. I went to summer camp and met him there, a pimply almosy gay (though I would not have thought that at the time, given my age and the times) guy who was the perfect "Nice Guy" (cf: Molly Ivors).

He is now well-paid by the GWB maladministration. Saw him about 20 yrs ago, with lovely wife, requisite two children, nice River Oaks home in Houston. He lorded it over me, but I did not care, particularly. Perfect, vindictive, nasty Bushite.


Gravatar"I'm tired of people constantly "getting away with it"
No one is punished, no one is accountable."

This may be the end of the 80s finally.

What you just said is something I have felt about my work life, what I see in the public and of course business and politics.


GravatarAh, beauty. Namestolen by a 14-year-old.

Why don't you jack off to Britney Spears videos like all the other boys?

Unless....


GravatarI actually knew a Young Republican. I went to summer camp and met him there, a pimply almosy gay (though I would not have thought that at the time, given my age and the times) guy who was the perfect "Nice Guy" (cf: Molly Ivors).

He is now well-paid by the GWB maladministration. Saw him about 20 yrs ago, with lovely wife, requisite two children, nice River Oaks home in Houston. He lorded it over me, but I did not care, particularly. Perfect, vindictive, nasty Bushite.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 2:31 am | #


She's jealous because her life sucks.


GravatarWhen's the last time you got laid?
bo


...it probably only understands that concept at the purely theoretical, "locked bathroom door with daddy's 'Playboy'" level...


GravatarEk and Roadie, no, this year has certainly been horrible, and it isn't just at a personal level. 

Holiday shopping this year was the most joyless I'd ever witnessed.  Every time I was in public, there was this sense of malaise and sadness all around.  I used to sense anticipation and good will around me.  This year, that's missing.


GravatarEkCenTrik, a plate of Christmas cookies and a glass of milk?


GravatarRepuke scum killed teh JEEEZUS, and now they kill Christmas


GravatarEk and Roadie, no, this year has certainly been horrible, and it isn't just at a personal level.

Holiday shopping this year was the most joyless I'd ever witnessed. Every time I was in public, there was this sense of malaise and sadness all around. I used to sense anticipation and good will around me. This year, that's missing.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.22.07 - 2:35 am | #

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Wahhhhhhhhh. DRAMA.


Gravatar...it probably only understands that concept at the purely theoretical, "locked bathroom door with daddy's 'Playboy'" level... - Jack K.

He does seem to have some major "compentency" issues, doesn't he?


GravatarJesus, the worst thing about Republican rule is that it's never any fun.

At least we have laughs during Democratic administrations.  The Republicans, with their sick, twisted Calvinism, seem to want to outlaw fun.


Gravatarhmmmm, seem to have some spelling competentcy issues myself


GravatarRon Paul says he had the troll forcibly removed from his campaign office after word got out that he was calling nursing homes and breathing heavily to elderly church widows.


GravatarEvery time I was in public, there was this sense of malaise and sadness all around. I used to sense anticipation and good will around me. This year, that's missing.


I have noticed this too. The usual festivity mood is missing this year.

I live in an area flooded with Republicans. It is remarkably joyless (and juiceless) this year.


GravatarQuestion still stands, Sweetie. When did you last get any? Or are you going to let the crickets do the talking?
bo


just remember this when they respond to: MP, lipreader, econ, or any other of the paid whores ...


and please remember, butler, et al, and I, will be back tomorrow and tomorrow ... for as long as it takes


Gravatarhmmmm, seem to have some spelling competentcy issues myself
bo | 12.22.07 - 2:39 am | #

LMAO. I'm so fucking stupid.......


Gravatar"Holiday shopping this year was the most joyless I'd ever witnessed. Every time I was in public, there was this sense of malaise and sadness all around. I used to sense anticipation and good will around me. This year, that's missing."

We called a halt to the gift giving this year. We sent gift cards. However it created quite a kerfluffle with the rest of the family. They are stuck on the Presents chase. There are no children left, everyone has their own means and we are distant enough that deciding what to get is a total crap shoot.

As such, reducing the gift to a card has actually been cheaper.

However, it changed a lot for us. (Remember there are three including the MIL).

We are each donating this year to a favorite charity with what we didn't spend (estimated).

I am still adjusting to it, but suddenly I am looking at the next few days in a different light. I am happier for it.


Gravatarand please remember, butler, et al, and I, will be back tomorrow and tomorrow ... for as long as it takes

suck it, putzold.


GravatarHe does seem to have some major "compentency" issues, doesn't he?
bo


...yes, and a tragic sight it is. But at least we know that we won't have to deal with the spawn of such losers, since reproduction is such an unreachable goal...


Gravatarand please remember, butler, et al, and I, will be back tomorrow and tomorrow ... for as long as it takes - rake

It's such a thrill to see you 101st Keyboarders in action. heh.


GravatarCookies! Heck I will even break out the Whole Milk. (The wife is asleep heheh)


GravatarGood night and good luck, ladies and gents. Sallyh, although I mostly lurk and rarely post here, I will keep your family in my thoughts.


GravatarAnd I am turning in as well.

Better tomorrows to all. Even the name-stealing trolls.

(Hey, it's the Holiday Season.)


GravatarThank you all for your kindness.  I have no idea how this will play over the next few days.  Your support means far more to me than I could express.

Oiche mhaith duit.


Gravatarbo | 12.22.07 - 2:44 am | #

And the gain from this is what, Dimbulb?


GravatarWell time to go to bed. Good night wonderful people.

And for the namestealer? I don't expect any introspection from you on what you are doing or why you are doing it.
You got attention from some real intelligent and thoughtful people so hopefully that will feed the loneliness inside you, the feeling of smallness that you have during this time in your life.
The attention you got here is like when you mom yells at you or your dad hits you. It's not good attention, but it is attention.
You could have been here and asked a question, added a witty remark or even disagreed. We aren't THAT elite, we actually wouldn't mind talking to a 13 year old and seeing what your life is like. What Are you afraid of, what pisses you off? come back some other time and talk for real.

I'm sorry you are so lonely that the ire of a bunch of strangers is the only connection you feel you can make.

I don't expect you to understand what I'm talking about until you get older, but maybe you will remember this note and see that there are other ways to interact that might be more rewarding than what you are doing now.


Gravatar"Oiche mhaith duit."

Nite Sally.


GravatarMorton Kondracke on Fox News says he's long believed the Republicans pick their nominees by primogeniture, the oldest son gets to be the king, and therefore McCain will be the nominee.


GravatarI'm sorry you are so lonely that the ire of a bunch of strangers is the only connection you feel you can make.


Yeah. just pathetic. Get a life.


GravatarIt's such a thrill to see you 101st Keyboarders in action. heh.
bo


...they are so heroic. My people are looking for heroes; I wonder if these losers would like to spend some time practicing trying to hold a fire shelter over themselves in a 150 mph firestorm wind on some remote western mountainside. The pay's better than running the fry station at McWendyKing and they won't have to face that paralysing fear of being shot at that keeps them from actually serving their country in military uniform...


GravatarMadam Poissonniere, good thoughts for you and yours, and all you other good folks, good night.

I'm tired of troll sitting. Such lonley little souls.


GravatarI'm tired of troll sitting.
bo | 12.22.07 - 2:53 am | #

I win.


GravatarMebbbe not.


Gravatar...they are so heroic. My people are looking for heroes; I wonder if these losers would like to spend some time practicing trying to hold a fire shelter over themselves in a 150 mph firestorm wind on some remote western mountainside. The pay's better than running the fry station at McWendyKing and they won't have to face that paralysing fear of being shot at that keeps them from actually serving their country in military uniform...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 2:53 am | #

Wow Jack. You're a might forester?


Gravatar


GravatarMe too stupid for gainful employment so I work in the woods.


Gravatar...cute when they don't like their frail little imitation of masculinity challenged, aren't they?


GravatarSallyh, I agree, the times they do not fare well. There is sadness, there is despair, there is fear, and there is fear of madness.

The Rethug reality is grim and dire.

They scream about the War Against Xmas, yet they are the ones who are most intent on killing it.

Jeees.........us.


GravatarI'll tell ya who's doing this, it's that Allen Butler from Texas.


Gravatar"So Sen. James “global warming is a hoax” Inhofe (R-OK) issues a report in which he claims:

Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called “consensus” on man-made global warming.

“Padded” would be an extremely generous description of this list of “prominent scientists.” Some would use the word “laughable” (though not the N.Y. Times‘ Andy Revkin, see below). For instance, since when have economists, who are pervasive on this list, become scientists, and why should we care what they think about climate science?

I’m not certain a dozen on the list would qualify as “prominent scientists,” and many of those, like Freeman Dyson — a theoretical physicist — have no expertise in climate science whatsoever. I have previously debunked his spurious and uninformed claims, although I’m not sure why one has to debunk someone who seriously pushed the idea of creating a rocket ship powered by detonating nuclear bombs! Seriously."
http://climateprogress.org/2007/...07-andy-revkin/


GravatarSallyh, I agree, the times they do not fare well. There is sadness, there is despair, there is fear, and there is fear of madness.

The Rethug reality is grim and dire.

They scream about the War Against Xmas, yet they are the ones who are most intent on killing it.

Jeees.........us.
Sarah Deere | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 3:01 am | #


wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


GravatarI clean shitters for the Foresry Service.


GravatarWahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 12.22.07 - 3:04 am

Congratulations, Namestealer, you have now reduced yourself to triviality, powerlessness. You are nothing more than background noise, the hiss of the void. Say whatever you want. You are invisible, totally filtered out.


GravatarCongratulations, Namestealer, you have now reduced yourself to triviality, powerlessness. You are nothing more than background noise, the hiss of the void. Say whatever you want. You are invisible, totally filtered out.
bo | 12.22.07 - 3:09 am | #

I own you.


Gravatarpigboy

...there's been quite the debate raging in the local fishwrap "letters to the editor" page over the last couple of weeks revolving around this very subject.

There is a persistent cadre out there with - at best- extremely selective googling skills that keeps dragging in all the magicians and snake-oil salesmen who will continue to flog all sorts of "expertise" that can't pass the peer-review sniff test because they understand that most folks are too busy or underengaged to actually look into the actual science...


GravatarYou own nothing


GravatarPigboy,
Wanna meet for drinks later?


GravatarYou own nothing
bo | 12.22.07 - 3:13 am | #

Owned.


GravatarJack K.,

If you were Jack R., I'd think you were a co-worker of mine at my previous job, Though he's been out of forestry for a number of years.


Gravatar...apply for a fire-fighting job, girly girl. It's harder than sitting in mom's basement - and you probably aren't physically capable of doing it - but, what the hell, you clearly got nothing else workin' for you anyway...


GravatarThis troll is laying down several lasting innovations in this thread. This is a night for the ages.


Gravatarapply for a fire-fighting job, girly girl. It's harder than sitting in mom's basement - and you probably aren't physically capable of doing it - but, what the hell, you clearly got nothing else workin' for you anyway...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 3:15 am | #

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Tough work. They fucking hire anyone for it. Next to picking fruit, you couldn't pick a line of work for a gaggle of uneducated goons.

Me brave. Me shovel dirt on flames.


GravatarThe Secret Life of Trolls:

Episode One : Deep Thoughts

http://tinyurl.com/2h3he8


GravatarI own you, big joe.


Gravatar...so you don't anything about either picking fruit or fire-fighting. Gotta start somewhere; sign up for a fire-fighting job...


GravatarTough work. They fucking hire anyone for it. Next to picking fruit, you couldn't pick a line of work for a gaggle of uneducated goons.


What did you mean to say there, honey?


Gravatar(.)(.)


GravatarThe methods being pioneered tonight are a new way forward for the trolls. It will take weeks to flesh out, interpret, and master these new tools.


Gravatar(.)(.) - wÒÓ†

It's a boobalink!


Gravatarboobies!!!



GravatarIf you were Jack R., I'd think you were a co-worker of mine at my previous job, Though he's been out of forestry for a number of years.
bo


...nope, not a Jack R. here. And I'm still in the biz, which, unlike trolling, actually requires a college degree...


GravatarJack K.,
You in Orygun?


GravatarMe shovel dirt on embers. Me smart.


GravatarwÒÓ†

...I'm a many-years-long lurker and - until tonight - an infrequent commenter, but I have to say that I'm glad to see you back, wÒÓ†.


Gravatar...nope, not a Jack R. here. And I'm still in the biz, which, unlike trolling, actually requires a college degree...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 3:24 am | #

Yeah, it takes a college degree to know how to hike and lug a shovel.

Uhhh huh.


GravatarAnd it seems the trolls do have one supporter out there.

http://tinyurl.com/ywunof


GravatarMe shovel dirt on fire. Me college educated.


GravatarOne day we had to hike up hill and shovel dirt on fire. It is a good thing I am coolage edumacted because I wouldn't be hear today.


GravatarAnd it seems the trolls do have one supporter out there. - EkCenTriK

Not suprised to hear the whole herd uses the same jockstrap, though it's a useless appliance, since there's not even single descended testicle to be found.


GravatarMaybe Santa get me new shovel for CHRISTmas?


GravatarJack K.,
You in Orygun?
bo


Yep, southern Deschutes County about 30 miles south of Bend. I've spent the last thirty years either in SW WA or Oregon, including 12 years in the Greater Portland/Vancouver Metropolitan area and Willamette Valley and the last 11 years on the east slope of the Cascades across the crest from Lane County. We need not discuss the Lost Years in John Day/Burns....


GravatarOne day we shovel dirt so hard that I got blisters. Good thing I was college edumacated to know what to do about the blister.


GravatarTrolls in heat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=T22unETejo4


GravatarAnd finally, time for bed

Nite folks.


GravatarYeah, me live in Oregano where I shovelled dirt for 12 years.


GravatarWe need not discuss the Lost Years in John Day/Burns.... - Jack K.

Indeed. Though John Day did have a swimteam that came into the big city for some of the meets in Beaverton and other W. Valley towns.


Gravatar...and just apply for a job, cutey-pies. Just google up USDA-Forest Service and jobs. We won't be too hard on ya and your lack of education probably won't be a hindrence, but the work is harder than handing bags out a drive-through window...


GravatarAm I right in thinking that all those firefighters getting laid after 9/11 really got on someone's nerves?


GravatarAm I right in thinking that all those firefighters getting laid after 9/11 really got on someone's nerves? - Uncle Smokes

Our puppy has elevated trolling stupidity to an art form then destroyed it, in a single might. You're looking at a broken troll.


Gravatarsingle night, danm finners.


GravatarIndeed. Though John Day did have a swimteam that came into the big city for some of the meets in Beaverton and other W. Valley towns.
bo |


...John Day has had a very active swim time for some time. Back in the mid-90's one of the folks who worked for me was heavily involved - mostly because her kids were on the swim team - and they traveled all over the state (not to mention hosting a couple of big swim meets at our little municiple pool). I've been gone awhile, so I don't know how they're doing these days...


GravatarPoor thing, accidental resident in a natural world it neither understands nor respects.


GravatarWhat a coinkydink, me neither. Now down in the state to the south of you which must remain nameless.

It was back in that timeframe that my daughter was swimming. Probably met your friend at a meet even. Didn't get to John Day for her to swim. Went to meets in The Dalles and once out to Walla Walla.


GravatarFor Old Time's sake, I'm running "Holiday Lights" around the border of my Dashboard .
Kinda cute.


Gravatarplantsman,

Greetings your vegetativeness. I Portland undergoing meteorological crisis at the moment, or are the weather bunnies reduced to commenting on the view cam pictures?


GravatarWell...I had just popped on to see who was around--and to keep awake for the impending wee-hour cab ride to the airport.

Now I have to finish packing and triple-check my double-checking. I hate the waiting to travel almost as much as the traveling (where planes deliver you like so much cargo).

I will be away for a few days, so I wish you and yours a happy Christma-Hanu-Rama-Ka-Dona-Kwanzaa!


GravatarIt was back in that timeframe that my daughter was swimming. Probably met your friend at a meet even. Didn't get to John Day for her to swim. Went to meets in The Dalles and once out to Walla Walla.
bo


...you would definitely remember if you had met her. She is....how should I put this...a force of nature. Not in a bad way, but just the sort of person who's personality sweeps you along...


GravatarYesterday was rather a respite from exciting weather; no rain, little wind, etc. As we move into today the winds increase a bit, and the chance for rain rises to 90% -- how's by you?


GravatarHad been musing on a tree I often see on a campus of Portland Community College -- one I recognized I had known by rote before the stroke, but whose name I could no longer call forth until just now -- Taxodium distichtum , the Bald Cypress. A deciduous conifer adapted to water saturated soil with a most picturesque trunk,
like something right out of a children's tale.


GravatarPCC's Sylvania campus is a tribute to rare Western natives and conifers, trees in general. Riding through campus is a good mental exercise for me.


GravatarJack K.

Unfortunately I seem to be forgetting large gobs of stuff hand-over-fist. You probably gathered from friend's efforts that swimteam involvement is one hell of a lot of work for the whole family.


P'man,
Doin' okay. took the week off and don't back until the 26th. bo loves him the 3day work weeks in the xmas/nyrs deadzone.


GravatarP'man,
Should be the State Tree, or at least the Tree of the Coast Range. ounds like OSU could have used a few of them out there on US 30.


GravatarMy bio clock has been totally spazzed since I started living as a diabetic. I tried fighting it and living as I am "supposed" to, waking and sleeping when an average Left Coaster does, but the persistence of my lack of attachment to the solar cycle is astonishing -- so now I rather wake and sleep as my body pleases and try to do necessary business when others are awake.


GravatarThe Bald Cypress, strangely enough, is actually native to the Southeastern US -- but thrives in the soggy Coastal Range as well.


GravatarI just can't sleep for shit this week. However I know why.


GravatarI just can't sleep for shit this week. Ditto. In Spades!


GravatarIt's bound to modulate as necessity dictates. How long have you been decreed diabetic?


GravatarSince just before Thanksgiving a year ago, but the
whirly life started with the medication and dietary
adjustments.


GravatarHad been musing on a tree I often see on a campus of Portland Community College -- one I recognized I had known by rote before the stroke, but whose name I could no longer call forth until just now -- Taxodium distichtum , the Bald Cypress. A deciduous conifer adapted to water saturated soil with a most picturesque trunk,
like something right out of a children's tale.
plantsman, bulbalicious


..that is actually tres cool. I didn't realize there were bald cypress in the Portland area, but I did encounter a small population on the banks of the Willamette in Eugene years ago while on a strange 'treasure hunt' with a biologist in search of riparian species suitable for a project on Dorena Reservoir outside of Cottage Grove...

Given the expansion of the area over the last 20 years, I suspect they may not be there anymore.

And it is now time for this surprisingly chatty infrequent commenter to head for the barn before Mrs. Jack K. and the teens start to whine about "how come Dad is staying up so late"....


Gravatar'nite Jack. Throw a little dirt on the smoldering troll on the way out.


GravatarJack K, forgive the troll and rest if you can; I'm no longer quite as amazed by such rude ignorance as I once was -- but I have a much better idea of how much I'll never know.


GravatarI understand it takes a while to get it all right. The change in schedule may also be a response to Reality's bitchslap of mortality. I'm making some really impressive (scary, actually) stride down the far side of the hill, and it gets me unnerved and discomfited at times.


GravatarThrow a little dirt on the smoldering troll on the way out

Fuck that. How 'bout some gasoline?


GravatarFuck that. How 'bout some gasoline? - Barndog

Noxious smoke. Besides, it seems like a fitting final comeuppance.

What's you nocturnal butt-burr?


Gravataryou = your. feh


GravatarIt's weird. Apparently (well, mostly) I've taken on the diet heroically, with few carb-outs and sugar mishaps - but the sleep/wake thing has me buffaloed. I can't seem to exert the slightest control, and when my mind wakes up, it slides into gear.


GravatarWhat's you nocturnal butt-burr?

The fact that nobody seems to be able to take these sons-of-bitches down.


GravatarWhat's you nocturnal butt-burr?

Wife with a sinus infection and cold. The snoring could wake the dead.

Fuck, it's kept me up alot of the week.


Gravatarplantsman - I prescribe the herbal remedy to cure your sleep issue.

But remember - to sleep, only smoke leaf. Calms the mind.


GravatarYeh, but I remember when she went on a trip a while back -- and you pined no end. Help her make it through the infection and cold, and I feel sure she'll make it up to you.


GravatarWhat do you fish for, BD?


GravatarSalmon, steelhead. I gave up (sort of) most other kinds of sport fishing.

Except for the occasional panfishing (perch, bluegill, crappie), I pretty much stick to the streams.


Gravatar'nite Jack. Throw a little dirt on the smoldering troll on the way out.
bo

...I've lost friends on fires who were better people than the smoldering troll could ever hope to be; I'll just bank the smoldering troll so there's a starter for that morning warming fire...

And goodnight to you, too, Plantsman, and I appreciate the thought. I don't take any offence from the troolz; they are what they have always been since the beginning of blogging, and I get more real live heartfelt criticism on a regular basis. These losers are easy...


GravatarDriveby Blogwhore

greetings, latenite moonbats!

i have just added a new post to my Jesus Minus Christianity book-in-progress-as-blog. It's about Jesus' similarities to Rabbi Hillel, the first rabbi. Turns out Hillel and Jesus were more alike than i even coulda thunk!

well, enough of this whorishness. it's embarrasing the cat!

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Gravatarsure did miss a closing tag there; clearly it's time to hit the hay...


GravatarBD, you have my sympathies. Is retreat to the couch an option? One of the few sensible things my and the ex-spouse did in our relationship. Usually it was the sicky on the couch, all the easier to watch the tube if you were sleeping.


GravatarWell, lessee; I updated the OS and Neo Office and nobody's talking much -- now what?


GravatarExcept for the occasional panfishing (perch, bluegill, crappie), I pretty much stick to the streams.

Bass man, here. Lakes/boat. Used to do streams until they raped them for flood-control. What did Thoreau say?


Gravatarwere having trouble sleeping.


That may be a sign that it's time to bag it.


If ya' haven't been there already, hit Phila's site for the Nudie Branchs and his Friday hope stuff.


Now I'mout.


GravatarBarndog needs a stylin' Clackamas drift-boat to really come into his own -- and I let him down miserably looking for one cause I don't know what the hell they are.


GravatarPhila's site:

http://bouphonia.blogspot.com/

knew something was missing.


Gravatarplantsman - I have one offered to me; 12'6", with a trailer for $1000.

Now, for the $1000. Well, that's a pipe dream for the time being.


Gravatar(Does not mention the gorgeous Aluma-Welds he sees tooling down Cedar Oak to the launch into the Willamette.)


Gravatar"Many men fish all their lives never realizing it's not the fish they are after."

Henry David Thoreau


Say goodnight, Dick.


GravatarErinPDX gifted me some home-grown with the most peculiar quality: by about the forth toke, you don't want any more.


GravatarI'm off till the evening of New Year's night, and am trying to get on a 'normal' schedule but here it is around 3:00AM and I'm wide awake.

Exactly what kind of a boat do you need Barndog? Can you give us a link or picture?


Gravatarby about the forth toke, you don't want any more

That's the point I thought...


GravatarGawd. Romney spokesperson on Tweety last night trying to spin what the word "saw" means when it's not actually having seen something. Emblematic of Mitt's whole problem with simple honesty.


GravatarNot, "Woo! I'm so high I don't want any more!" -- just, "Hmm; I don't want any more."


Gravatarby about the forth toke, you don't want any more

you can't really get any more wasted than you already are after the fourth toke or so

but if you combine it with alcoholic beverages you will really get stunk and droned

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Gravatarhttp://www.clacka.com/tradeIns.asp

Something simular to these shown. Remember, when viewing this site - these boats are all trade-ins.


GravatarNot, "Woo! I'm so high I don't want any more!" -- just, "Hmm; I don't want any more."


See, this is a prime example of an accurate description.


Gravatarwonderfully melodramatic thriller from the 40s about a 'devil cult' on TCM

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GravatarMy daughter just got home from an ICP concert in Detroit.

Funny thing though - she wasn't soaked in Redpop like the last time.


GravatarGreat, oddly racy old flick with Spencer Tracy: Dante's Inferno .


GravatarMyself I'm looking at eyeglass loupes.

To help me fight the precision wars. I heard last night that the plant may spring for a set.

I'd decided I can't really see 1/1,000th of an inch scales. But neither can anyone else.
Staring at these.
http://www.kruess.com/ lupenbrill...2087573ab0.html
There also are some nice Zeiss ones.


GravatarAnyone know if simels liked Sweeney Todd ?


GravatarI think I'll pass on Sweeney Todd till it hits the DVD rental shelves. I don't like Xmas, Jonny Depp, Tim Burton movies enough to bother before hand.


GravatarAnyone know if simels liked Sweeney Todd ?
plantsman, bulbalicious | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 5:13 am | #


i got a pretty crappy review from the SF Chronic

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GravatarCool, Doug; I had an eye exam and got a new prescription yesterday -- I'll be 20/20 again after the specs are ready!


GravatarThe NYT reviewer liked it despite himself and the subject matter.


GravatarI need to have my eyeballs checked again. I do not enjoy the check to see if my field of vision is okay - from the Plaquenil (nice side effect: blindness, sometimes permanent).


GravatarGreat, oddly racy old flick with Spencer Tracy: Dante's Inferno .
plantsman, bulbalicious | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 5:11 am | #


the description in the IMDB makes it sound interesting. i avoided it becuz i thought it was a costume drama or something...

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GravatarIt's wild: undulating masses of sinners in Hell, Tracy as a real irredeemable heavy -- all from a
theme park ride.


GravatarShit! I forgot to pull the pork loin out for Xmas Eve.

Better go do that right now.


Gravatar"Stylized but spasmodic, Tim Burton’s very bloody and strangely dissociated adaptation of Stephen Sondheim’s 1979 musical masterpiece seems more interested in distancing than captivating an audience. The performances run to the monochromatic, and the singing is largely mediocre. Johnny Depp achieves a strange feat of singularity as a London barber bent on grisly revenge. Helena Bonham Carter is badly miscast as Mrs. Lovett, his partner in crime. Redemption comes in the thrilling score, cunningly cut, reconfigured and orchestrated for the screen."

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Gravatarundulating masses of sinners in Hell

i always miss the good parties

seriously, any 30s movie set in a dark urban context appeals to me

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GravatarAlso, I'm doing print addendums, with detail overlays. With complicated parts, there's too much chance of missing something, when there are a a few hundred small items that need to be there and positioned correctly, when you are looking at the combo of many constellations of features. Makes the guys at the end curse you.

It looks like they are getting us a few more programmable microscopes. I think I could keep all those humming all night.


GravatarGuess I pissed off my cat. She's perched in the picture window, looking aimlessly outdoors.

All because I told her it was too early to go outside. The earlier she goes out, it will be earlier the next time.

Quite a little pest she is.


GravatarIf filkertom shows up, ask to see his "Kat Mack Rows" You Tube video -- it rawks!


GravatarOh, that's what Speeder does all night. Go out the back through the dog door, patrol the property, and then walk up to the front door and scratch or knock with his claws as loudly as possible. Does this when I'm asleep he does.


GravatarAll because I told her it was too early to go outside. The earlier she goes out, it will be earlier the next time.

Quite a little pest she is.
Barndog, not fishing


This is hilarious -- I was just having the same conversation with the Big Dumb One!

I suspect there's a bad kitty that's been hanging around at night; he's been acting weird around the other cats. So I won't let him go out until the sun comes up. He's sitting in the windowsill bitching, and I'm explaining to him (because I'm insane . . .).


GravatarIf filkertom shows up, ask to see his "Kat Mack Rows" You Tube video -- it rawks!
plantsman, bulbalicious


It's wunnerful, it is!


GravatarI begged the eye Doctor NOT to dilate my eyes, but because it was my first eye exam since diabetes diagnosis and I wanted to check for retinopathy, I relented. Sheesh, the trip home was bright and fuzzy!


GravatarV - I stopped explaining myself to her.

She doesn't give a shit anyway.


Gravatarwe had to start keeping master percy the cat in at night becuz he kept trying to get the neighbor's cats to come out and play at 4am. this restraint causes him to get yeowly at 2am every night.

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GravatarSheesh, the trip home was bright and fuzzy!

I hate that.


Gravatarthis restraint causes him to get yeowly at 2am every night

Threaten him with duct tape.


GravatarGood morning, lovely people.

Plantsman, your internal clock seems to have reverted to Berlin time!


GravatarAw gahd! I was a mess in Safeway, dodging the lit places and searching out the dark crannies where I could focus on stuff.


Gravatar(Welcome to Cat Chat, I'm your host, Virginia --)


They just hate doors, don't they? We have a small utility room; Mr. V put a latch on the door because they are obsessed with getting in there since we don't want them in there. It has a bifold door on it and they'll bat and bat and bat at it until it opens. If one of us goes in and leaves the door open, you can bet that three cats will come from anywhere in the house to get in there. There's nothing in there that would interest them -- they just don't like not being allowed.

Cats. They're nutz.


Gravatarmorning, all.

Those theme park rides share something with the carnival eeriness. It's a strange world, I can see how it would be great drama.


GravatarFor the moment, Marcellina; what it feels mostly is "on the move." *sigh*


Gravatarthe dark crannies where I could focus on stuff.
plantsman, bulbalicious


That's the part I hate.

Good morning, Marcellina!


GravatarSafeways have become darker and more boutique-y. Spare me the brightly lit markets!


Gravatarhumanz!

what is it about "meeeowerrrrowrr ow" that they don't understands?

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GravatarMorning V!

I'm just finishing up my holiday baking, the last muffins are in the oven. Then clean, pack, a show tonight, and early tomorrow I'm on the train out of here.


GravatarMarcellina, the other day *it* told me how dreadful
my German is, and "did I want her to correct me."
Heh.


GravatarI removed the door to the laundry room (where eldest cat's food is located), then took the door off to the basement.

We haven't had much scratching at doors since.


Gravatarplantsman -- you just said "Beetlejuice."

Marcellina -- where are you going?


GravatarWrong language, plantsman, you need to speak schizoidese.


GravatarTravelling just before Xmas would be pretty hectic here. But I loved trains in Yurope.


GravatarHow helpful.

OK, you misspell things, it's true but I always understand you perfectly, and that's the main thing.
It's just lashing out on what it thinks are our weak spots, what will make us angry.


GravatarShe suggested I have a big piece of cake (in order to hasten my demise, no doubt) yet when I turned her murderous thoughts on her and suggested she kill herself, she said I had "crossed the line."


Gravatarbut I always understand you perfectly, and that's the Whole point of communication , isn't it?


GravatarYesterday I made 8 candles using RealLemon and RealLime squeezy bottles as molds. Lemon are yellow and lime are green, all scented with lemongrass essential oil. They're kinda cute. Also put up a batch of what started out to be marmalade, but ended up being more like an orange-pomegranate preserve since I reduced the sugar so much. It's still delish.

Today: Layered pillar candles from recycled wax, eucalyptus essential oil. And then I'll be done!


GravatarMy favorite of the drivel the other day was her insisting she doesn't read Molly's posts/blogs, when she was using information from them.


Gravatar(I imagine a red light above her monitor that automatically flashes if she is mentioned.)


GravatarTo Munich, where my beau will pick me up in the car and we will drive on to his father's house in Saxony, a good 5 hours' drive from there.

There is, at the border, only a single track for some reason, so I expect to have to change to a bus and back to a train along the way. Might be "interesting."


GravatarV4VA, I adore candles. I have some I've never been able to light, tho, because they're too lovely to melt down.


GravatarXmas in Saxony, Marcellina, that sounds too pretty for words.


GravatarMy "tree" is artificial, so I have two lovely "evergreen" pillars I've been too parsimonious to burn, but today might be the day to start.


GravatarXmas in Saxony

Much better than Christmas in Jail.


GravatarMarcellina -- sounds like a lovely trip!

Ruth -- I have a candle fetish. When our local lovely candle shop was going out of business, Dear Friend and I went in there and went batshit. I think I spent around $300, but got some outstanding deals on stuff like Root candles (they burn around an inch an hour).

Half of the candles are for her; although she was in on the batshittedness she's another one so she won't mind having more.


GravatarBarndog, you know, Xmas in jail doesn't sound like fun - I had tho't about doing some volunteering this year but never got around to it. Shame on me.


GravatarWilliams-Sonoma once had pure solid beeswax tapers that lasted forever at a great price -- now, only The Gateses and The Buffets could afford them.


GravatarV4VA, there are Mexican candles that are tall and thin, in glass, and last longer than any others I've come across.


GravatarRuth - last time I did holiday work, the bullshit from those in charge, made the whole experience no longer worth my time.


GravatarWell, it is very pretty up there, in the Erzgebirge, home of those wooden nutcrackers and the German candle pyramids. We will be hanging out with his Dad, which involves a lot of patience on my beau's part. On Christmas eve we'll probably play scrabble or something, to keep him from turning the tv on.
On the 25th we'll drive into Dresden to visit friends, and drive back early the next day (I have a show that evening.)


GravatarAre his parents American, Marcellina? Or do you play scrabble in German?


GravatarThat was funny. Am watching Condi presser, where she was asked what she tho't about Bolton saying our foreign relations are in free-fall because the cretin in chief is listening to her too much. She replies she won't comment, then spends about 7 minutes saying we're talking to people now, everything is going great. What a bunch of clowns.


GravatarI haven't been able to talk to Dad since just after he left hospital, and "working thru intermediaries" is driving me nuts -- but I'd better say nothing.


GravatarWhen I was a young thing in college, I was going to drive home on the 24th (300 miles) but my car broke down. I spent a greater part of the next day in bus/train stations, and it was an incredibly enlightening experience. I stopped feeling sorry for myself when I saw how many people had to work that day; bus drivers, train employees, hospital workers, police, radio and tv studios, taxi drivers and dispatchers....


GravatarDresden! there was a wonderful exhibit of many treasures from Dresden at Versailles and I was entranced by these huge gem-crusted fantasies made for the court.

Barndog, last time I volunteered, I was really touched by families who all came out to do something for some one besides themselves. Yeh, the 'leaders' were full of themselves.


GravatarMarcellina, a Jewish neighbor of mine worked the emergency room on Xmas (she was a neurosurgeon), I met her coming home from that once and she was in shock. She'd had a 40ish man come in DOA, and his family to tell that he had just suddenly up and died on Xmas day.


GravatarI know Ruth. I really should again, however, finding the right place would be a blessing.


Gravatarplantsman, I've been afraid to ask if you'd talked to your dad. Maybe you could say to your intermediaries that you really hope you get to talk to him at Xmas.


GravatarRuth -- Mr. V is getting ready to go out on the Christmas bird count. That's something birdy you could do in your area if you were interested, I'll bet.

They do I think three a year.


GravatarRuth, we play in German! They're from the former GDR. I think that's what won the Dad over last time, that I could more or less keep up with them.

Beau's mother died about 8 years ago, just before Christmas. She got all the preparations done and then dropped dead, and for the sake of the 6-yr-old the family went through the motions of Christmas without her. It must have been weird.


GravatarSo, over at Crooks and Liars, Regis Philbin tells of being at Phil Donahue and Marlo Thomas's Xmas Party, and being seated next to Amy Goodman -- with whose work he was unfamiliar. Kelly riffs on what it's like being the intellectual lightweights at the table, and it's pretty funny.....


Gravatarplantsman -- is he just not able to get to the phone? Or can he not speak well enough to be heard?

I don't understand why you can't have a word with him.


GravatarGood thinking, V4VA, and I'm next door to a wildlife refuge, sometimes go on their birding expositions. I just may ask about that. I had been going to go today to the Spiro Mounds for a winter solstice walk, but it's supposed to snow there today and I won't drive in bad conditions if i don't have to. I'll do the Caddo thing in spring.


GravatarHe was moved to a room without a phone in the assisted-living facilty and has been on oxygen, besides. His wife is deaf, so rarely hears the phone anyway, and....


Gravatar( I didn't know she wore hearing aids in both ears until my sister told me -- when she wears them.)


Gravatarplantsman -- If you want to get into it, you could call the nurses' station and ask if there's any way you could speak to him. It being Festivus and all, they're likely to figure something out.

And if you're not feeling assertive enough, I know of a social worker who will ask anyone to do anything . . .


GravatarThe staff at the facility have incorporated Southern slowness and indirection into everything they do, from all I can tell. All encounters with them are frustrating.


GravatarAnd if you're not feeling assertive enough, I know of a social worker who will ask anyone to do anything . . .

Years ago I heard about a woman who started a "Rent-a-Nag" business, where for a fee she'd make the phone calls that her clients were uncomfortable making. I wonder if she's still in business. It sounded like a great idea.


Gravatarplantsman, my son was visiting his late dad at a nursing facility of course, and found the staff really disinterested, but they moved him to a final care place and it was a huge change, really involved staff, a huge relief. Not that I recommend that.


GravatarOnce you been tagged for "acting all Yankee-like". it's over.


GravatarBTW, it was 70's yesterday, I got in a brisk walk in the park. Today it's supposed to snow.


GravatarThis seems to happen a lot; certain family members keeping others away, more for selfish reasons than to protect the sick family member.


GravatarAt this stage in my little life, summoning up enough unctuousness to conduct business there is difficult, to say the least.


GravatarIt sounded like a great idea.
Grand Duchess Marcellina


It really is! Obviously it's a big part of social work, too; figuring out how to make the connections between people and resources, and massaging systems and individuals so the right result happens.

And enormous plus to working for this one hospice I'm interested is that it works this way:

1. you call the people who have the resource;
2. it gets delivered.

Not a lot of areas where it's that simple . . .


GravatarPatience with stupidity is my weak point, too, plantsman, I tend to show how little I care for the stupid.


GravatarAt this stage in my little life, summoning up enough unctuousness to conduct business there is difficult, to say the least.
plantsman, bulbalicious


I'd be perfectly happy to deal with it if you'd like me to. I'd probably need to speak with their DoN or an administrator, and they're more likely to be in on a weekday. OTOH they might be staffed up this weekend because of the holidays -- hard to guess.

If you'd like me to take a crack at it just e-mail me the details and we'll see what happens.


GravatarMy 'puter is making those odd little "processing" noises while I'm not doing anything - that always unnerves me.


GravatarPatience with stupidity is my weak point, too, plantsman, I tend to show how little I care for the stupid.
Ruth


What's weird is that if it's on my own behalf I want to choke people; if it's on someone else's behalf I still want to choke them but I can summon the external appearance of patience for a really long time.


GravatarI'll think on it Virginia. Perfect, Assertive, Elder Sister is in the mix with her own agenda which I can't intuit. I've probably said way too much.


GravatarMy 'puter is making those odd little "processing" noises while I'm not doing anything - that always unnerves me.

That's the worm that pippi secretly installed on your hard disk.


GravatarNaw, a computer jeenyus she ain't. When a way to open an English version of a French web page eluded her, I knew that.


GravatarI'll think on it Virginia. Perfect, Assertive, Elder Sister is in the mix with her own agenda which I can't intuit. I've probably said way too much.
plantsman, bulbalicious


OK, you mull it over, but in the mean time here's my take on Perfect Sister:

Fuck her and the agenda she rode in on. He's your father, too, and she doesn't get to make every single decision about his relationship with other people. She. Has. No. Right.


GravatarI hear you, Virginia -- But she has money, and I don't. When she claims she's speaking for Dad, I really have trouble. Keeping me away from him muddies my surety.


Gravatarplantsman, I have a winger bro who likes to be The Family Spokesman, and I have learned to shut him off before I get mad. Right now he's finally having to admit our mom is not handling her own affairs, and I'm sitting it out letting him decide if he's going to do the court route, knowing he's going to ask me to. And hating it. While she's getting herself in way over her head. But anything you do for her, she turns into God Did It For Me, which I hate worst of all.


GravatarKeeping me away from him muddies my surety.
plantsman, bulbalicious


Yes -- that's the idea. I'll stop, now, but seriously -- money has not a fucking thing to do with it. Yanno, we don't let custodial parents withhold visitation by non-custodial parents because of support payment issues. Same deal. It's irrelevant.

I've got a couple of days off; maybe I'll just drive up there and slap her silly. Now I'm pissed.

Love ya, man. Let me know what you want to do.


GravatarV, you've got mail!


GravatarMaria Barteloma saying all that money you spent on Chinese goods are coming back/ they're buying morgan stanley for us! yarrrghhhh.

But her guest is saying all indicators are in recession territory, guest is Lakshman Achuthan ECRI Mg Dir. Tax cuts might help, but not sounding really positive.


GravatarThis is most uncomfortable to discuss, but I feel I can trust what I can contact, and nothing else.
For now, let's leave it.


Gravatarplantsman, do you have a program to detect activity from unauthorized sources on the 'puter? I recommend it.


GravatarPlantsman does your puter still make the drive noises after a
1/ reboot, or only
/2after you've been running it for awhile?

Those noises are from memory swapping out to the HD. The question is,

is this from a lack of memory on the beast?
or from applications that don't clean up after themselves, leaving chunks running,
or from wormy little things running all the time?

Which it is, changes how this might be corrected.


GravatarNo, Ruth; and not a cent to get one -- my paranoia is aroused! Thanks, guys!

/kidding, kind of


GravatarDoug -- my Mac has been doing the same thing; I was just getting concerned about it this morning (we are Borg!). I almost never restart it.

I'm gonna do that and see if it stops. Back in a few.


GravatarAfter it's been running for a while, and only occasionally. The original Hard drive is choked with stuff I'm too ignorant to trust deleting and the remote drive has oodles of space


GravatarPlantsman, you've got my sympathy. When both my parents were dying (this happened almost a decade apart) my siblings liked to get in the middle of everything, though both parents were handing their own affairs well enough.


GravatarI downloaded a "security update" and a new Neo Office patch this morning, and it happened shortly after. It's a Mac, also.


Gravatar(.)(.)


Gravatarplantsman, I got a free offer for 6 months from a service that my office's computer guru knew about, I'll see if I can get the name, you can install it from their site, but I only see the name when I start it up in the a.m.


GravatarMom died over a decade ago - but Dad's faculties were good enough until recently to stay in touch with him. Not much to do but go through it, I guess.


GravatarI did the restart and it shut up!

Thanks, Doug!


GravatarNow That's a booby! wOOt.


GravatarThe swapping noises (in plantsman's computer) probably are from apps that are dirty housekeepers. A common flaw of modern C & C++ programing. You could try to uninstall apps you don't use. Don't just delete them, run though the whole uninstallation routines. If you don't know how to do this google for the app + un-install, and read what people have to say. Be cynical as to which instructions you follow. If you can find instructions for this on any of the official apple mac sites, those are more likely to be authoritative.


GravatarThere was video this week of two red pandas at a zoo somewhere, I think; man, they were adorable!


GravatarThe mac forums are pretty reliable for how to do stuff.

I find that things get bogged down when I do a lot of media at the same time; I'm usually streaming audio through iTunes or the browser, often look at animations of weather, videos, etc. After a few days I have to at least restart Firefox. Also, it fucking hates running Office applications, so I try to close those as soon as I'm finished with them.


GravatarBoobies at this hour. Yay!


GravatarBoobies at this hour. Yay!
Barndog, not fishing


It's always time for boobies!


GravatarI would never go back to System 9 (Classic) on a bet, but it hogs tons of space and in the bad old days "uninstall" was uncommon on Macs. My secret plan was to get around this someday by buying a new Mac Mini with OS X 10.5 installed, and junking the G4 tower. $$$ is the only problem, of course.


Gravataroh.my.god, wonderful ice pics at http://www.ptarmigannest.net/

And do comment, the poster (Yoh-there), at Barry from Alaska's site is a young Netherlander who wants to hear from us Merkins.


Gravatarjust saw this from TPM:
Witnesses Back Up Mitt Romney On MLK

Uh Oh - Tweety went after Mitt's campaign manager relentlessly last night over this - and during the same show -scolded the press for their harsh treatment of Rudy regarding the Shagfund. "Where does he go to get his ten points back in the polls", sez Matthews.

Tweety complained that the NYT buried the update on Rudy's use of his own budget to fund his affair (like that was legit!!sheesh) - cash not taken from other departments, apparently. So all the bs should be forgiven, I guess. Tweety hearts Rudy.

MSGOP is spending lots of time taking down Romney and Huckerbee and propping up Rudy and McCain now.


GravatarCharlie Savge, of the Boston Globe has another great article on signing statements. & Gues what? Multiple choice Mitt loves the idea!

http://www.boston.com/news/natio..._full_spectrum/


GravatarRomney's campaign guy Madden said Mitt NEVER marched with MLK nor actually saw his father do so - the guy was all, about changing what the definition of "saw" is.


GravatarGeorge Romney may have marched in Dearborn in a march without MLK, but could you now find witnesses who say he did march with him? A-yup, I'm guessing.


GravatarI distinctly remember marching with MLK, or was it Normal Mailer, no, it was the Vietcong! Pardon my brainwash.

/Geo.R.


GravatarMSGOP is spending lots of time taking down Romney and Huckerbee and propping up Rudy and McCain now.
portia


Is it agenda-driven or the electability problem? It's interesting how they've chosen.

I actually think McCain would have the best shot nationally, but he's not without people (thugs) who despise him. It seems Mitt is as corporatist as he could be, so I guess they're worried about the Mormonism. Julie Annie has so many strikes against him -- the connections to bad people, the screwing around, the idiotic "leadership."

They're really in a bind, aren't they?

Tee. Hee.


GravatarMcCain's "cross in the dirt" Xmas ad is too much for me -- but that's just me.


GravatarThey're really in a bind, aren't they?

Tee. Hee.
V for Virginia, dethroned

They are - but McCain and Rudy do better nationally against Hillary Clinton in the polls. Chris Matthews loves the Rs for president which is weird because he's against the war in Iraq and calls Hillary a hawk. McCain and Rudy don't want to end the war.

Shame on Matthews.


GravatarThe most doctrinaire on the Immigration Issue, Tancredo; has withdrawn, but Hunter's still playing candidate. McCain is at odds with most of the red-meat base on that, it hobbles him.


GravatarMcCain's "cross in the dirt" Xmas ad is too much for me -- but that's just me.
plantsman, bulbalicious

I'm with you - it was over the top, but it might play in the bible belt.


GravatarShame on Matthews? For not learning the lesson of MoDo that you should only destroy what you REALLY want to destroy? Too late.


GravatarMcCain's "cross in the dirt" Xmas ad is too much for me -- but that's just me.
plantsman, bulbalicious

I'm with you - it was over the top, but it might play in the bible belt.
portia


but he's anti-torture, he's got no credibility with the 'base'.


GravatarAll this talk about GoPervs is turning my stomach. Gotta get some breakfast. brb.


GravatarI'm enjoying the Schadenfreude of watching the GOP boys self-destruct: they've earned it.


GravatarA laudatory story about Norway from an USIAN living there.

http://discopantsandhaircuts.com...-is-for-living/

Contrast and compare with the US.


Gravatar"Where does he go to get his ten points back in the polls", sez Matthews.

The Little Shoppe of Ho's. It's down in the Village...


Gravatar"Judith, would you inflate my penile implant, dear ?"


GravatarJudith probally takes the strap-on to Rudy.


GravatarJudith probally takes the strap-on to Rudy.
Barndog, not fishing


Only if he's very, very good.


GravatarOnly if he's very, very good.

So much for that.


GravatarCIA withheld al Qaeda tapes from 9/11 panel - paper

NEW YORK, Dec 22 (Reuters) - The Sept. 11 commission asked the CIA in 2003 and 2004 for information on the interrogation of al Qaeda suspects, only to be told the agency provided all that was requested, The New York Times reported on Saturday.

The CIA said on Dec. 6 it destroyed hundreds of hours of videotape in 2005 showing interrogations of al Qaeda suspects Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, prompting former members of the commission to review classified documents.

The taped interrogations were believed to show a simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding that rights activists have condemned as torture.

The Sept. 11 commission's chairmen, Lee Hamilton and Thomas Kean, said their reading of the review, a copy of which the newspaper obtained, convinced them the CIA made a conscious decision to impede the panel's inquiry, the Times said.


GravatarNorway certainly ranks up there for quality of life and yet Iceland nosed it out as #1 nation for being people caring and friendly.

The USA could get into the top ten if we could get rid of the Defense Dept. monkey on our back and the warmongers in Washington.


GravatarFBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics
$1 Billion Project to Include Images of Irises and Faces
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7122102544.html

But I'll bet the wealthy, powerful, connected and corrupt in the US will be exempt, though those are one the ones who should have GPS leg bracelets on full time, as measured by dollars or deaths as being the biggest ones to damage the US, and it's people.

Law enforcement is more interested in persuing lower class common criminals.


GravatarElmer, that's too close to Sweeney todd's m.o. It might work.


GravatarTweety seems crestfallen with the falling polls of his hero, Ghouliani.

Which only makes Tweety's hatred of Ms. Clinton burn even more insanely.


GravatarA memo prepared by Philip Zelikow, the panel's former executive director, concluded that "further investigation is needed" to determine whether the CIA's withholding of the interrogation tapes from the commission violated U.S. law, the paper reported.

The CIA said it destroyed the tapes lawfully to protect the agents involved in the interrogations, but the news prompted an outcry from rights activists and Democrats in Congress, as well as investigations by the Bush administration and Congress.

The commission investigated what went wrong before and after al Qaeda militants used hijacked commercial airliners to attack the United States on Sept. 11, 2001. The panel's report called for an overhaul of the U.S. intelligence community.

Kean, a Republican and former New Jersey governor, said the panel would give the memo to federal prosecutors and lawmakers looking into the destruction of the tapes.

A spokesman for the CIA told the Times the agency had been prepared to provide the Sept. 11 commission with the tapes but was never asked to do so.

"I don't know whether that's illegal or not, but it's certainly wrong," Kean said of the CIA's decision not to disclose the existence of the tapes. Hamilton, a Democrat and former Indiana congressman, said the agency "clearly obstructed" the commission's investigation.


Gravatarportia, last night on Newshour the CIA's defense, that it said it had nothing else AT THAT TIME, but later were given the tapes, was given. Soundinbg like our tapes that were destroyed were held outside the US gov't, so proly some one else has copies, too.


Gravatar Soundinbg like our tapes that were destroyed were held outside the US gov't, so proly some one else has copies, too.
Ruth

too bad impeachment is off the table.


GravatarThe USA could get into the top ten if we could get rid of the Defense Dept. monkey on our back and the warmongers in Washington.
Rudy


I think they're trying to keep the U.S. from acknowledging the International Court for that reason. and destroying tapes.


GravatarThe Bushboy regime is doing its damndest to sweep the CIA tape scandal under the rug as they have with so many of their other scandals.

There isn't any room left under the rug, but with a cooperative MSM that sees, hears and speaks no administration evil, the Bushboy regime figures no one will know.


GravatarSenate stays in session over holiday to thwart Bush (over recess appointments)
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS...orma/ index.html

How cool!


GravatarI downloaded a "security update" and a new Neo Office patch this morning, and it happened shortly after. It's a Mac, also.
plantsman, bulbalicious


Open up a Terminal, type:

top

hit return, and post the results here.

We'll see if we can diagnose anything.


GravatarGOod morning, atriots!


GravatarSenate stays in session over holiday to thwart Bush (over recess appointments)

And we the people get a four day weekend. Cool.


Gravatarhttp://www.opednews.com/ articles...er_joins_ca.htm

Rep. Weiner Joins Call for Cheney Impeachment Hearings

On Thursday, Congressman Anthony Weiner told Bob Fertik of Democrats.com that he would sign onto Congressman Robert Wexler's letter to Chairman John Conyers urging the commencement of impeachment hearings for Dick Cheney. Wexler, together with Congress Members Luis Gutierrez and Tammy Baldwin, hopes to have a majority of Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee sign the letter.

that's four.


GravatarThe CIA said it destroyed the tapes lawfully to protect the agents involved in the interrogations

I thought these tapes were from rendition cases ... you know, those detainees we sent to Uzbekistan where they boil people alive?

Would our agents have been there?


GravatarBomb blast in Pakistan kills 50 people yesterday.

Once that would have been front page news. Now it's found on the inside of the newspapers under the "ho hum, another day at the office" kind of thing.


Gravatarthat's four.
portia
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high time for more


GravatarThere isn't any room left under the rug, but with a cooperative MSM that sees, hears and speaks no administration evil, the Bushboy regime figures no one will know.
Rudy

sad but true. and MSGOP and the establishment press are propping up the Rs - who would continue the bad Bush policies. it's surreal.


GravatarPelosi was very mistaken to take "impeachment" off the table when she and the Dems took back the Congress.

Anything that could be done to distract or instill fear in Bushboy and Cheneychins would be a good thing.

Their continued actions in office represent the further deterioration of America and deepens the hole we will have to climb out of once these miscreants are gone!


GravatarWhere oh where were the Jesus people in Congress, and Pat Roberts, and My Kaka Bee screaming for the life of Nataline Sarkisyan and condemning Cigna for her death?


GravatarThere's something really awful about hearing Stevie Nicks sing "Silent Night."


GravatarTheir continued actions in office represent the further deterioration of America and deepens the hole we will have to climb out of once these miscreants are gone!

You said it, pardner.


GravatarMorning, rational people.


GravatarThe best description I ever read of Stevie Nick's voice was "nanny-goat-with-a-head-cold." I remember that every time I hear her voice.


Gravatar"The darkest evening of the year..."


GravatarCigna for her death?
Shaw Kenawe, Solsticer

Profits before people even at xmas time for the jesus freaks!

What do you take them for? Commies?


GravatarPlantsman-- If you're in OSX, it's probably just indexing your hard disk for spotlight searches. It doesn't just look at your files, but reads their content too, so it runs regularly and generates a lot of disk activity.

All-- Good mornin'. Gonna go skiing today!


GravatarRudy,

I hesitate to say, and I'm putting on my tinfoil hat...I think they struck a deal - not to impeach if Gonzo and Karl Rove would resign...other's in the DOJ, too.

(just speculation on my part - but I've thought it for a while now.)


GravatarThe bar has been set so low for Presidential accountability, I really fear for this country. All bets are off. Short of strangling a basket of kittens on live TV, I don't there's anything that will result in impeachment anymore.

Oh, except a blow job.

Never mind.


GravatarPortia,

Your theory is plausible but I sure wish they would have impeached the bastards anyway.


GravatarHi, Diane, good reflection on that 'Christian nation' myth we're having thrust down our throats. at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com

I'm thinking V4VA's suggestion about doing the Xmas bird count should work for me.


Gravatarportia, that's entirely credible. They might not have wanted to bog things down with an impeachment process, and went for the one thing they most wanted in return.


GravatarI think they struck a deal - not to impeach if Gonzo and Karl Rove would resign...other's in the DOJ, too.

What would be the point of that?


GravatarWhat do you take them for? Commies?
Rudy


The hypocrisy of the Right is suffocating, innit?

This poor young woman had a 65% chance to survive, for chrissake, as opposed to Schiavo, who was brain dead. Yet not one pious fundie screamed and insisted that the insurance co. save her life. Will they demonize Cigna the way they demonized Schiavo's husband?



No. No. No. and No.


Sigh.


GravatarHmph.

Some of us like Stevie Nicks.



GravatarSome of us like Stevie Nicks.

SteveNS


I like her, too, but I like Dylan so I try to keep a low profile.


GravatarShorter wÒÓ†, "Show me your processes and I'll show you mine"

But his advice is good. Activity Monitor (in Applications/Utilities) does the same thing in a more Mac-ified way.


GravatarThe best description I ever read of Stevie Nick's voice was "nanny-goat-with-a-head-cold." I remember that every time I hear her voice.
Grand Duchess Marcellina


It depends on when you're talking about. In the Buckingham-Nicks and early Fleetwood Mac days, her voice is awesome. But by the mid-80s, smoking and bad technique has really damaged her vocal cords.


GravatarShaw,

The same rightwingnuts that went apoplectic to "save" the brain dead Terri Schiavo will tell you that Nataline had to die to "save" us from socialized medicine.

Goddess save us from these saviors!


GravatarShort of strangling a basket of kittens on live TV, I don't there's anything that will result in impeachment anymore.

It takes a visionary man such as the President to recognize the dangers posed by Islamokittens.


GravatarProfits before people even at xmas time for the jesus freaks!
What do you take them for? Commies?
Rudy

*
Like dogs and their owners, our features meld into the image of Red Chinese.


GravatarSteveNS = Stevie Nix


GravatarI like Stevie Nicks! But her rendition of Silent Night is like gravel scraping across a chalkboard.


GravatarOne of the candidates (I'm lookin' at you, Edwards) should make that Cigna case a centerpiece in the campaign.

It's absolutely shameful, and people should definitely have to confront it. "Is this what you had in mind?"


GravatarShaw; Will they demonize Cigna the way they demonized Schiavo's husband?

That's a campaign contributor you're talking about - NSA is putting it into your file.


GravatarSteveNS = Stevie Nix

Oh noes!

My secret identity's been blown!!!


GravatarIn the Buckingham-Nicks and early Fleetwood Mac days, her voice is awesome.

Agreed. "Silver Spring" still gives me chills.


GravatarBut I like her songs, in a nanny-goat-with-a-head-cold way!

And she looked great, those medieval maiden clothes, and all that hair. She was really beautiful. (Maybe she still is, I don't know.)


GravatarSteveNS = Stevie Nix

Stevie Nix = Nikki Six


GravatarPortia, your theory may be accurate, but mine is that the Dems wanted a flurry of legislation passed that showed how hard Congress could work to right the ship of state, and impeachment proceedings would bog that down.

What they didn't think through was the likelihood that Bush and his Congressional minions would obstruct everything the Dems tried to do.

So we got the worst of all possible outcomes.


GravatarAgreed. "Silver Spring" still gives me chills.

Excellent song.

I like the live version of that from "The Dance" (1997, I believe?) way more than the studio version.

Same with "Landslide".


GravatarActivity Monitor (in Applications/Utilities) does the same thing in a more Mac-ified way.
Gromit


What am I looking for? It says Firefox is using between about 71 and 86% of CPU. Is that capacity, or of what is in use?

(My Mac is doing the same thing plantsman's is, although not as much since I restarted.)


GravatarOne of the candidates (I'm lookin' at you, Edwards) should make that Cigna case a centerpiece in the campai

I have no doubt he will. Man, I hope he pulls out a win in Iowa.


GravatarSame with "Landslide".

My problem with "Landslide" is that it's really about an avalanche.

Must be a writer's thing.


GravatarSteveNS = Stevie Nix

Stevie Nix = Nikki Six
Southern Beale | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 7:54 am


And now I have both Stand Back and Dr. Feelgood going through my head.


GravatarKarpinski on CSpan; "Even Exxon-Mobil has admitted global warming is happening" but the actions they recommend don;t counter it.


GravatarI have no doubt he will. Man, I hope he pulls out a win in Iowa.

(If I could vote) I'd say he's the one I'd most enthusiastically support.


GravatarWhen I was in college we got a bootleg copy of "Silver Spring." We thought we were so cool. I don't think it was ever released on an album until that 1997 one you were talking about.


GravatarMy problem with "Landslide" is that it's really about an avalanche.

Must be a writer's thing.




GravatarAnd now I have both Stand Back and Dr. Feelgood going through my head.

"Stand back, Dr. Feelgood!"


GravatarAnd now I have both Stand Back and Dr. Feelgood going through my head.
Buckeye


Schizsongs?


GravatarAre we having Mac problems?

Blogger just did some kind of patch thingy that completely messed up Safari, and I had to download Firefox, which I abhor.

But they've fixed it now.


GravatarKarpinski on CSpan; "Even Exxon-Mobil has admitted global warming is happening" but the actions they recommend don;t counter it.
Ruth

It would cut into their $40 billion/year profits (last year) and reduce their stock price and more importantly reduce the amount of bonus and the value of stock options paid to their top executives!

How can you expect these Exxon-Mobil leaders to get by on gross incomes of less than $50 million/year?


Gravatar4 day week-end!


Gravatarnd now I have both Stand Back and Dr. Feelgood going through my head.

"Stand back, Dr. Feelgood!"
Southern Beale | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 7:59 am | #

And now I have both Stand Back and Dr. Feelgood going through my head.
Buckeye

Schizsongs?
Ruth | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 8:00 am


And having Stevie in full gypsy/medieval garb wandering through Motley Crue videos is very, very strange.


Gravatar4 day week-end!
trifecta


I just know I'm going to be kicking myself for not taking any vacation days over the holidays.


GravatarHow can you expect these Exxon-Mobil leaders to get by on gross incomes of less than $50 million/year?
Rudy


hard candy Chrismas.


Gravatar4 day week-end!
trifecta | Homepage | 12.22.07 - 8:01 am | #




I work for 3-4 hours on Monday.


GravatarWhat they didn't think through was the likelihood that Bush and his Congressional minions would obstruct everything the Dems tried to do.

So we got the worst of all possible outcomes.
Diane C. Barking-Mad

you're probably right. We haven't heard much from US Attorneygate lately, that's all.

I'm happy to see Wexler's petition and now four Ds on the judiciary committee have signed on to Cheney's impeachment. Kudos, Robert Wexler!


GravatarI gave you lovely people some sheets for Christmas.


GravatarThanks, Molly!


GravatarI'm not a big fan of country music but I saw a concert on TV given by Vince Gill and Allison Krause and they sang some pretty music (mostly written by Gill) and Krause has a voice that is as sweet as it is angelic.


GravatarMy big big boss wanted us to take Tuesday and Wednesday off, but work Christmas Eve.

I talked my regular boss into having things I needed to do on Wednesday, so I get the four day week-end, which is good.


Gravatar

Looking through the Blogger "Help Group" topics. Saw this one:

"My 11 year old son created a blog, i need it deleted."



The imagination goes wild ...


GravatarWhat am I looking for? It says Firefox is using between about 71 and 86% of CPU. Is that capacity, or of what is in use?

That means that most of your processing power is going towards running your browser. So when you quit your browser, the computer will stop making so many 'revving up' noises.

You might close unneeded windows or tabs. Often, those annoying moving ads suck up a lot of processing power.


Gravatar4 day week-end!
trifecta

Enjoy!!

I've got to clean today.

Have fun!


GravatarBut his advice is good. Activity Monitor (in Applications/Utilities) does the same thing in a more Mac-ified way.
Gromit


GUI?

We don't need no stinking GUI.


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