indeed.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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03.21.08 - 3:55 pm | #
Was that a recent comment, Atrios?
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.21.08 - 3:55 pm | #
It'd be a great thing if we had an election where you had two people who love this country, who were devoted to the interest of the country and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues instead of all this other stuff which always seems to intrude on our politics.
It occurs to me that Bill Clinton having a massive coronary would help Hillary.
leibniz♘☮ |
03.21.08 - 3:55 pm | #
Stick a fork in Bill. He's done.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
03.21.08 - 3:56 pm | #
Has he mentioned this to his wife?
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Gee |
03.21.08 - 3:56 pm | #
same crap-Hillary and McCain are experienced.
Hillary and McCain are Patriotic.
same old |
03.21.08 - 3:56 pm | #
That's what Barack said.
Stunt Hussein Woman
So Bill Clinton owes Barack Obama a Coke?
jac |
03.21.08 - 3:56 pm | #
A rake is defined as a man habituated to immoral conduct. Often a rake is a man who wastes his (usually inherited) fortune on wine, women and song, incurring lavish debts in the process. The rake is also frequently a cad: a man who seduces a young woman and impregnates her before leaving, often to her social or financial ruin. To call the character a rake calls attention to his promiscuity and wild spending of money; to call the character a cad implies a callous seducer who coldly breaks his victim's heart. These men are also known as heels. An alternative, weaker term is a bounder.
sou |
03.21.08 - 3:56 pm | #
It'd be a great thing if we had an election where you had two people who love this country, who were devoted to the interest of the country and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues instead of all this other stuff which always seems to intrude on our politics.
Is that a quote from 1992, right after he got blasted by Jennifer Flowers and the "dodged the daft" allegations?
Hesiod |
03.21.08 - 3:57 pm | #
I wish these g-d stingrays would stfu so we could get on with our elections!
smarty jones |
03.21.08 - 3:57 pm | #
I think of "bounder" as having a social climbing element.
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Gee |
03.21.08 - 3:57 pm | #
So he's saying that Obama should face Hillary in the general election? I could live with that!
Halfdan |
03.21.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Sure, call him a dreamer.
I'm tired of celebrity gossip politics.
tubino
So he's not the only one?
jac |
03.21.08 - 3:58 pm | #
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Bill Clinton |
03.21.08 - 3:58 pm | #
"get a brain moran"
pablo |
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03.21.08 - 3:58 pm | #
And it's something you can use to rake your yard, some dirt, or even shag carpeting! (remember the little rakes you could get for it?)
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 3:58 pm | #
(from below)
Moe Szyslak
You might have missed this but when I first started working in my African American school district I taught beginning computer classes at night. I had three lovely older African American ladies attend the classes. They would wait at the office after class for me to check out so that I could walk them to their car: THEY were afraid of the young men hanging around the school.
Draw your own conclusions.
DWD
DWD |
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03.21.08 - 3:58 pm | #
It'd be a great thing if we had an election where you had two people who love this country, who were devoted to the interest of the country and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues instead of all this other stuff which always seems to intrude on our politics.
Not just about things intruding politics, but personal integrity (smart eh?)
ccokz |
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03.21.08 - 3:59 pm | #
"get a brain moran"
pablo
You, sir, are a bounder. A cad, even.
I challenge you too a dual.
jac |
03.21.08 - 3:59 pm | #
It's Gennifer. Geez.
"dodged the daft" is a great typo.
I've failed to dodge the daft far too much this week.
tubino |
03.21.08 - 3:59 pm | #
Was that a recent comment, Atrios?
the top hit for that quote on Google is the post Atrios just posted. So I'm thinking he just made it up.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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03.21.08 - 3:59 pm | #
You might have missed this but when I first started working in my African American school district I taught beginning computer classes at night. I had three lovely older African American ladies attend the classes. They would wait at the office after class for me to check out so that I could walk them to their car: THEY were afraid of the young men hanging around the school.
Draw your own conclusions.
DWD
They were with the secret black wing of the KKK?
Moe Szyslak |
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03.21.08 - 3:59 pm | #
Yes, all that "other stuff" just seeps in through the pipes. It has nothing to do with campaign operatives.
puppethead |
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03.21.08 - 4:00 pm | #
They were afraid of the Decepticons!
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Bill Clinton does bring up a good point, however. Does McCain love this country, or does he just want the power? I don't see any ideals from McCain, just comments he makes to help him win.
puppethead |
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03.21.08 - 4:03 pm | #
"dodged the daft" is a great typo.
We have a great many daft doggers here.
JeffCO |
03.21.08 - 4:03 pm | #
But then it wouldn't be a Democratic primary....
Just saying... |
03.21.08 - 4:03 pm | #
The fop (also known as a fribble, popinjay, fashion-monger, or clotheshorse) is a person who makes a habit of fastidiously overdressing and putting on airs, aspiring to be viewed as an aristocrat (when he is not already one).
sou |
03.21.08 - 4:04 pm | #
Does McCain love this country, or does he just want the power? I don't see any ideals from McCain, just comments he makes to help him win.
McCain is an empty vessel filled with nothing but ambition, which must be constantly fed. His honor, his family, all are fodder for his ambition.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
03.21.08 - 4:05 pm | #
This is as good a time as any to go get my hair cut.
Bill Clinton does bring up a good point, however. Does McCain love this country, or does he just want the power? I don't see any ideals from McCain, just comments he makes to help him win.
puppethead
(a) the Republicans say the exact same thing about Clinton and Obama.
(b) the man fought for his country, and spent five years in a prison camp. Whatever his flaws, I think it's fair to cut him some slack on the "loves his country" question.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:05 pm | #
Jackanappe!
Bill was an especially gifted lagniappe.
JeffCO |
03.21.08 - 4:05 pm | #
And what's dear, sweet little poisonous toad Rash Limball done, now? Is it the inciting voter fraud thing?
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:05 pm | #
by the way, 610 WIP has been playing clips of the Obama interview all freaking day.
great free adverstisement.
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:06 pm | #
The fop (also known as a fribble, popinjay, fashion-monger, or clotheshorse) is a person who makes a habit of fastidiously overdressing and putting on airs, aspiring to be viewed as an aristocrat (when he is not already one).
sou
I don't WANT Fop, goddammit!
I'm a Dapper Dan Man!
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:06 pm | #
CHARLOTTE, NC -- At a small VFW hall in Charlotte, NC, today, former president Bill Clinton contemplated a McCain/Clinton general election matchup, saying that it would one between "two people who loved this country" without "all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."
"I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country," said the former president. "And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."
Kevin K. |
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03.21.08 - 4:07 pm | #
And what's dear, sweet little poisonous toad Rash Limball done, now? Is it the inciting voter fraud thing?
What's this? Has he been arrested again?
ThinlyVeiled, Bottle Brunette |
03.21.08 - 4:07 pm | #
Whatever his flaws, I think it's fair to cut him some slack on the "loves his country" question.
Why? They aren't even willing to give me the benefit of the doubt. So why can't I at least raise some doubt?
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:07 pm | #
Treacherous picaroons!
Gary Queen of Scots |
03.21.08 - 4:07 pm | #
How bad has FOX Noise become when Chris Freaking Wallace walks out on it?
he didn't. One of the morning bobbleheads did.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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03.21.08 - 4:07 pm | #
I think it's fair to cut him some slack on the "loves his country" question.
I think it's fair to say he "served his country." Loving one's country is a higher standard that I think he has a hard time meeting, as evidenced by his ongoing efforts to subvert the principles his country officially espouses.
JeffCO |
03.21.08 - 4:07 pm | #
Canadians don't know how to say "Oregon."
Moe Szyslak |
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03.21.08 - 4:07 pm | #
Our party could be 100% united, but Obama wants what he wants and he wants it NOW.
In a saner time, the fresh-faced newcomer would work to help the leading Democrat win,
but Obama feels like he's the most qualified person in the country to lead the planet.
We're about to give someone unlimited power - should it be an unknown?
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:08 pm | #
Our party could be 100% united, but Obama wants what he wants and he wants it NOW.
In a saner time, the fresh-faced newcomer would work to help the leading Democrat win,
but Obama feels like he's the most qualified person in the country to lead the planet.
We're about to give someone unlimited power - should it be an unknown?
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:08 pm | #
(b) the man fought for his country, and spent five years in a prison camp. Whatever his flaws, I think it's fair to cut him some slack on the "loves his country" question.
But more to the point, asking if Candidate X "loves his country" is part of Clinton's "all this other stuff." And of course he himself is not entirely innocent in that regard.
Halfdan |
03.21.08 - 4:08 pm | #
Call me whatever, but how, precisely, does one "love" his or her country? Does it involve relations with a hole in the ground or something?
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:09 pm | #
And of course he himself is not entirely innocent in that regard.
See, e.g., South Carolina doesn't count because Jesse Jackson won it twice.
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Gee |
03.21.08 - 4:09 pm | #
Mccain was in the navy for ambitous reasons.
I dont know what happened in 5 years in NV. mccain is a habitual liar. so i dont trust his accounts.
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:10 pm | #
MCCain is like Grandpa Simpson.
leibniz♘☮ |
03.21.08 - 4:10 pm | #
Does McCain love this country, or does he just want the power?
He only loves the red states, or those states which may turn from blue to red.
Lime Rickey |
03.21.08 - 4:10 pm | #
What's this "our party" shit anyway?
i supose Bugs is one of those "lifelong Democrats" like Szell Miller.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:10 pm | #
Our party could be 100% united, but Obama wants what he wants and he wants it NOW.
Bugs, it's not so much your message, but the insult to the intelligence of every reader of this Blog that you assert that you are a Democrat.
You are nothing of the sort, GOP scum. We know your type all too well.
Fuck of and die, fascist pigshit.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
03.21.08 - 4:10 pm | #
Why? They aren't even willing to give me the benefit of the doubt. So why can't I at least raise some doubt?
Precisely. In the last eight years, I've been called a traitor and worse, been verbally and physically assaulted, had my property vandalized, received threatening phone calls due to my published LTE's, all because I wished to voice my dissent. Fuck them. Want to call yourself a Patriot? Prove it, motherfucker. With your actions. Otherwise, STFU.
ThinlyVeiled, Bottle Brunette |
03.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
People in DE pronounce Newark as New Ark. I guess it differentiates from the place in Joisy.
qlŞ |
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03.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
Bugs
All together now...
Fuck off, racist pig!
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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03.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
the president does not have unlimited power. stfu.
Not to mention the fact that every person who has ever run for President considers him or herself to be the most qualified. What a stupid characterization.
JeffCO |
03.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
McCain was in the Navy to prove to the admirals he as just as good as them. I have no idea if they ever told him he wasn't.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
INdeed, Newark delaware used to be spelt New Ark.
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
I'm a Dapper Dan Man!
no, that would be Sinfonian.
ErinPDX |
03.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
Why? They aren't even willing to give me the benefit of the doubt. So why can't I at least raise some doubt?
Snow (D-SC)
So, then, sink to the level of the scumbags?
Take shots against his stands, check.
Take shots against a person's love of their country? That's one I think you can leave on the shelf and still win.
They can't - but we can.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:11 pm | #
From NBC/NJ's Carrie Dann
CHARLOTTE, NC -- At a small VFW hall in Charlotte, NC, today, former president Bill Clinton contemplated a McCain/Clinton general election matchup, saying that it would one between "two people who loved this country" without "all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."
"I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country," said the former president. "And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."
In the wake of controversy over comments made by Barack Obama's former minister, Clinton's comments could be seen as an effort to draw attention to the issue of patriotism in a state with a high population of veterans.
The former president made the comments to less than 80 audience members at an invite-only event focused on veterans issues. The audience was subdued as Clinton gravely outlined a message of patriotism and honor for military service, The small sea of navy-blue VFW caps nodded along in agreement.
Take away ten of the cameras and fifty degrees Farenheit, and this could have been a John McCain event in Waterloo, Iowa, in November 2007.
The message was different, but the mood was much the same.
Clintons words |
03.21.08 - 4:12 pm | #
Republicans "like" Obama because they want to run against him.
For them, what could be better than running against,
"an unqualified, untested black Muslim named Hussein?"
BTW, what changes is Obama going to make, anyone know?
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:12 pm | #
MCCain is like Grandpa Simpson
As a cartoon character, I think of him more like Mr. Magoo, but meaner. Mojo Jojo Magoo.
Gary Queen of Scots |
03.21.08 - 4:12 pm | #
If these freaks love their country so damn much, why are they doing everything they can to destroy it?
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:12 pm | #
I have no idea if they ever told him he wasn't.
The answer was to be inscribed on the underside of the ejection seat of his sixth plane.
MikeJ |
03.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
if mccain "lloved america" he wouldnt have supported the iraq war. he would not have supported bush for 8 years.
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
McCain was in the Navy to prove to the admirals he as just as good as them.
McCain was in the Navy because his father and grandfather were in the Navy and for no other reason.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
Has Obama released his military records yet?
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
Does it involve relations with a hole in the ground or something?
The Way of the Seeded Earth
Well, sort of, actually...I know, ick. I mean I understood that sex is somehow supposed to be 'dirty' but, like, real dirt?
catalexis |
03.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
Bugs
Have you fucked off, yet, racist pig?
DJ |
03.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
Bill Clinton contemplated a McCain/Clinton general election matchup, saying that it would one between "two people who loved this country" without "all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."
interesting difference this context makes, eh?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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03.21.08 - 4:13 pm | #
I think it's fair to cut him some slack on the "loves his country" question.
Remember how all the Republicans cut Kerry "some slack" because, as a decorated war veteran, he obviously "loved his country"?
The ones with wings and metal teeth, coming to red your flesh?
Why would I tell you?
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:14 pm | #
Paw Paw Formaldehyde! Notice that he seems to be melting before our very eyes? Seriously, you watch him and keep expecting chunks to start falling off or something.
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:14 pm | #
Yep - that's my moral standard in life, to be as upstanding as Karl Rove.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:15 pm | #
In the wake of controversy over comments made by Barack Obama's former minister, Clinton's comments could be seen as an effort to draw attention to the issue of patriotism in a state with a high population of veterans.
A bit of a stretch. Jeez.
abyssgazer, DraftKang |
03.21.08 - 4:15 pm | #
Okay, so one of you Obamites wanna tell us his electoral strategy? not that it's over or anything, but just exactly which swing states can he win? I don't care much about poll numbers to this point, but if it's Obama against whatever Republican talking point hood ornament they select, how does he win any state that isn't a dem given?
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:15 pm | #
what changes is Obama going to make, anyone know?
He does have a website.
If you learn to read you find out all about his policy proposals.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:15 pm | #
oh man, i can't wait until the clintons visit orygun.
ErinPDX |
03.21.08 - 4:15 pm | #
McCain’s Money Woes
'The three remaining presidential candidates filed their latest money reports with the Federal Election Commission yesterday and, not surprisingly, McCain is lagging way behind his Democratic opponents. According to the FEC, Barack Obama raised a staggering $55.4 million in February, while Hillary Clinton brought in roughly $35 million. As for McCain … well, the Arizona senator raised just over $11 million--slightly less than what he raised in January, the month he won New Hampshire and regained his political mojo.'
I believe his duet with M.I.A. on the cover of Edwin Starr's "War" is due out around convention time.
In the meantime, go pull a tape of him reading "The Audacity of Hope." You might actually learn something.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
03.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
In the wake of controversy over comments made by Barack Obama's former minister,
what comments?
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Wingnuts wish CA would fall into the ocean, so they don't love the WHOLE country.
Lime Rickey |
03.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Remember how all the Republicans cut Kerry "some slack" because, as a decorated war veteran, he obviously "loved his country"?
They truly honored all veterans with their special issue Purple Heart Band-Aid.
JeffCO |
03.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
I want the Clintons out now!
this sucks
even if i supported hillary over obama, which i do not, i'd have to second this motion.
likewise if the nos. were reversed. and as has been noted, the pressure for him to step aside would have done it's job by now.
charley |
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03.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
all me whatever, but how, precisely, does one "love" his or her country?
The same way a great artist loves his audience. A form of love most will never know and yet available to all as love of country.
fop |
03.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Zed's dead, baby.
Zed's dead.
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Grand Moff Texan
Fuck.
He was great in "Men in Black."
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
oh man, i can't wait until the clintons visit orygun.
Oregon doesn't count! Too many black caucusing latte drinkers! Doesn't count!
MikeJ |
03.21.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Again, Has Obama released his military records yet?
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
Here is a pathetic, craven thing about McAnus. He got sodomized by George in 2000. Yet he wanted to be preznit so bad that he inserted his pasty nose into George's rectum for 8 years. So now George is leaving, so McAnus thinks he'll get it for sure this time. Pitiful.
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
i also dont really understand "loving" a nationstate. seems kind of silly.
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
God, that troll is tiresome.
abyssgazer, DraftKang |
03.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
all me whatever, but how, precisely, does one "love" his or her country?
fop
Well, you start by stroking Florida until the Great Lakes overflow. Then....
Gummo |
03.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
how does he win any state that isn't a dem given?
By not offering to be another loser, like Bush.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:17 pm | #
In the wake of controversy over comments made by Barack Obama's former minister, Clinton's comments could be seen as--
Go the fuck away!
Terry C - Hippie Fagsoul |
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03.21.08 - 4:18 pm | #
So, then, sink to the level of the scumbags?
Did I call him a traitor. Did I say his service doesn't count. Nope. That is what I have been told. I wanted to join the Navy for my own reasons. Because I felt it was my duty to give back to the country that had given me so much. OK, so that included a free college education that required me to serve. And yeah, there was the chance to fly fighters and be all Tom Cruise.
Read wiki. John McCain joined the Navy at least in part, to prove to his family that he was as good as his father and grandfather. So I am not going to give him "he loves his country so much". Maybe he does. He can prove it to me, but I doubt he will.
I didn't even know my father's father had been in the Navy until this year.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:18 pm | #
In the meantime, go pull a tape of him reading "The Audacity of Hope." You might actually learn something.
Roadmaster
Bugs' lips move when he listens to recorded books.
In the meantime, go pull a tape of him reading "The Audacity of Hope." You might actually learn something.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office
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All Obama's hoping for, is your people's votes!
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:19 pm | #
I am not a patriot, I do not love my country. I am a human being who is troubled by all the baggage of tribalism and who actually feels that humans need to get over the desire to carve up and lay exclusive claims to vast swaths of land and to murder one another in disputes over the stuff found therein.
catalexis |
03.21.08 - 4:19 pm | #
Again, Has Obama released his military records yet?
Has Hillary released hers?
For that matter, has McStain released all his OERs as Kerry did?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
03.21.08 - 4:19 pm | #
Killfile is your friend.
Unfortunately, not an option.
abyssgazer, DraftKang |
03.21.08 - 4:19 pm | #
I never thought I'd say this but in this instance Bill Clinton is a "Marlin Perkins"!
Ducky 1515 |
03.21.08 - 4:19 pm | #
Again, Has Obama released his military records yet?
Bugs
Are you being eaten by flying pieces of paper with metal teeth?
Well, OK then.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
I need to know how killfile works.
One is annoying me exceedingly.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
i also dont really understand "loving" a nationstate. seems kind of silly.
Because of all that nation-state has given you.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
So I am not going to give him "he loves his country so much". Maybe he does. He can prove it to me, but I doubt he will.
How can it be proven? It can't, so it's just a distraction from all the other evidence that he's a disaster.
Halfdan |
03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
MSNBC showing video of Bill Clinton now.
It didn't sound too bad.
Clintons words |
03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
Take shots against a person's love of their country? That's one I think you can leave on the shelf and still win.
I don't know what's in people's hearts, but I sure as shit know what they betray by their behaviors. John McCain's behavior does not indicate to me a love of our country.
JeffCO |
03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
I am not a patriot, I do not love my country. I am a human being who is troubled by all the baggage of tribalism and who actually feels that humans need to get over the desire to carve up and lay exclusive claims to vast swaths of land and to murder one another in disputes over the stuff found therein.
catalexis
So, did you order that muffler belt from Bristol or not?
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
Because of all that nation-state has given you.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
well thats a good point.
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
I am not a patriot, I do not love my country.
Not even Buffalo, NY?
Lime Rickey |
03.21.08 - 4:20 pm | #
Dopie Richardson says, Obama is a leader. Leader of what? What has he ever led?....NOTHING!
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:21 pm | #
So, are there parts of the country you love more than others? Because it's big Marlin Perkinsing country. (dreams stay with you, blah blah). Take for instance, your local rendering plant. Do you love that less or more than George Bush? Or how about your dog? You must love him more than the guy down the street. Are we talking cities, trees, rocks, everybody but blacks, gays, hispanics, etc.? How about your local housing projects? They're pretty lovable, surely?
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:21 pm | #
Again, Has Obama released his military records yet?
He will when you do, fuckface.
Now, piss off and stop bothering the adults.
Terry C - Hippie Fagsoul |
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03.21.08 - 4:21 pm | #
wŇÓ† -- ?? ok, thats a blue-footed booby. Nice pic.
Gary Queen of Scots |
03.21.08 - 4:21 pm | #
Because of all that nation-state has given you.
Hemlock, table five, and make it snappy.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:21 pm | #
I need to know how killfile works.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash
Open Firefox, go to "Tools >> Add-ons."
Install the Greasemonkey add-on, then install the Haloscan Killfile script.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:21 pm | #
If you're in favor of torture, you don't love America. McCain is in favor of torture.
MikeJ |
03.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Is it such a terrible thing to love one's country?
I just think it's a shame more republicans don't love their country.
abyssgazer, DraftKang |
03.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Well, you start by stroking Florida until the Great Lakes overflow. Then....
Gummo
Colorado has a heckuva rack.... simels would hit it for sure.
smarty jones |
03.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
I didn't even know my father's father had been in the Navy until this year.
Snow
I didn't even know my own father had been in the Navy until a couple of years ago. He did a short stint during WWII, and was decommissioned. Then, he became a Marine, served 20 years. Truth be told, as a good Marine, he's a little ashamed of that Navy stint, and never talked about it.
Moe Szyslak |
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03.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Leader of what? What has he ever led?....
Bugs
Millions of people who will never know that you are dead.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Man on MSNBC saying Clintons don't speak about anything by accident.
USA loves gossip |
03.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
Obama is a leader. Leader of what? What has he ever led?....NOTHING!
All that McStain ever led was a jet plane and he fucked that up pretty throughly.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:22 pm | #
I am not a patriot, I do not love my country.
Nonsense. I've mentioned this before, and I doubt he was the first to say it, but Peter Tork (yes, that Peter Tork) was once quoted in a magazine interview saying: "The man who says 'my country, right or wrong' is mistaken. My country 'wrong' needs my help."
my point was i dont understand loving a think like a nation state. it is too i dont know. i can love people. i can love an institution. beyond the size of a small college or something it starts to lose a little meaning.
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:23 pm | #
OSAMA BIN LADEN IS STILL A FREE MAN, what is Obama going to do about him. Has he said and don't you toadies what to know?
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:23 pm | #
The problem is that Obama can not unite the country. Heck, he can't even unite the Democratic Party.
This is going to get really ugly. And thats before the general election starts.
Xalth |
03.21.08 - 4:24 pm | #
Is it such a terrible thing to love one's country?
After that, you'll marry your box turtle.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:24 pm | #
How can it be proven?
I'll be easy on him, I promise.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:24 pm | #
This is going to get really ugly. And thats before--
it is so obamas fault the country is full of racists. he should quit now.
euphronius Night School! |
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03.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
Is it such a terrible thing to love one's country?
Hey, the Gulf of Mexico may intimidate other guys, but not me!
Gummo |
03.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
John McCain joined the Navy at least in part, to prove to his family that he was as good as his father and grandfather.
Snow (D-SC)
So if his motives for military service aren't pure, he can't possibly love his country? How does the person who wrote that Wiki entry know, unless John McCain or someone he confided in wrote it?
I never served - does that mean I can't?
Deeds can be judged pretty objectively. Motivations, not so much.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
I think claiming to love one's native soil is the height of humus.
JeffCO |
03.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
It must be understood that I don't hate my country either, I think, and I have mentioned this before, I find the whole concept of patriotism to be, at best, a version of 'school spirit'. I just think grown ups need to get past this choosing sides thing.
catalexis |
03.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
Nonsense. I've mentioned this before, and I doubt he was the first to say it, but Peter Tork (yes, that Peter Tork) was once quoted in a magazine interview saying: "The man who says 'my country, right or wrong' is mistaken. My country 'wrong' needs my help."
Of course, the "conservatives" always clip out the second half of the original quote, from Carl Schurz, which was "My country, right or wrong, but if wrong, to be made right."
The blind patriots do not understand that their patriotism is cowardly by its very nature.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
03.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
This disturbs me, Why can't the Clintons say anything negative about McCain. They always seem to be lifting the A-hole up to a higher level. I would respect them more if they would attack McCain and Bush only.
jus saying |
03.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
The problem is that Obama can not unite the country.
The problem is that trolls from Mumbai cannot spell.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:25 pm | #
Open Firefox, go to "Tools >> Add-ons."
Install the Greasemonkey add-on, then install the Haloscan Killfile script.
Millions of people who will never know that you are dead.
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Grand Moff Texan
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You mean he's like a pied piper? And you people are lemmings!
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:26 pm | #
my point was i dont understand loving a think like a nation state. it is too i dont know. i can love people. i can love an institution. beyond the size of a small college or something it starts to lose a little meaning.
I lose it at the level of small college department faculty meetings.
leibniz♘☮ |
03.21.08 - 4:26 pm | #
Obama cannot win.
You keep using that word. I do not thing it means what you think it means.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:26 pm | #
Won't it be simple for Obama and Hillary to release their military records, since there are none?
puppethead |
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03.21.08 - 4:27 pm | #
Probably, the smaller a country is, the easier it would be to love, because you could get to see its every nook and cranny.
Monaco would probably be easy to love plus casinos.
Lime Rickey |
03.21.08 - 4:27 pm | #
...McAnus thinks he'll get it for sure this time. Pitiful.
B1 Bummer
For me it's that he is a man who has suffered torture at the hand of hostiles and knows what it is 1st hand unfortunately, and has been against torture all his political life, and in his own heart I'd imagine - he's probably fully aware that such information is highly unreliabe, and yet the rove cabal got him to vote FOR TORTURE.
Now that is pity inducing - for his soul that is. Can't be good for your health either the mental contortions one must do to justify such cowardice vis-a-vis his former principles.
Nuts! madly off in all... |
03.21.08 - 4:27 pm | #
The blind patriots do not understand that their patriotism is cowardly by its very nature.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Bush, Cheney and all their right-wing hangers on are, very simply, anti-American.
They hate this country's values, its people, and its laws.
I enjoy pointing this out every chance I get....
Gummo |
03.21.08 - 4:27 pm | #
You mean he's like a pied piper?
No I mean he's like a no one gives two shits for you.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:27 pm | #
"The problem is that Obama can not unite the country."
Sure he can. We owe it to him for generations of oppression and black slavery.
Typical White Person |
03.21.08 - 4:28 pm | #
Comment by Xalth blocked.
Yes, killfile CAN be your friend!
Terry C - Hippie Fagsoul |
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03.21.08 - 4:28 pm | #
Dont' get me wrong. I am very patriotic. It's my freakin' country. So, like Peter Tork said quoted above, it's my responsibility to try to run my tiny little part as best as I can, and not shut up when the place is doing something bad. I love the idea of what this place can be, not what is was or particularly is right at the moment. It'll never work, but if you care enough to have an opinion, care enough to try to do something to help.
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:28 pm | #
Sure he can. We owe it to him for generations of oppression and black slavery.
Typical White Person
Or you can give it while it's still voluntary.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:28 pm | #
Let's watch the Oprahmabots try to make yet another fake outrage whinefest out of Bill Clinton's accurate comments.
It will cost Oprahbama another 5 points in PA. These episodes are why Obama has no chance in November.
His entire campaign is now based on fake outrage and holier than thou admonition, and usually directed against the only Democrats to make it to the White House in 28 years.
Terrell |
03.21.08 - 4:29 pm | #
The candidate that promises to deport trolls first gets my vote.
smarty jones |
03.21.08 - 4:29 pm | #
I love my bed. Especially lately, in the aftermath of the mystery bronchial achy fever energy-sapping thing from Hell.
I'm a true bedriot, no daytime soldier.
I can't love objects bigger than beds-- well, landscapes and skyscapes and sun and moon stuff. But only what I can fit into my eyeballs at any one time.
So I'm an eyetriot of sorts.
But I can't emotionally compute landmasses and extended abstract societies.
Visitor Online |
03.21.08 - 4:30 pm | #
Give Obama a rifle and send him to the streets of Baghdad. Then we will see how brave he is!
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:30 pm | #
The candidate that promises to deport trolls first gets my vote.
smarty jones
I think we ought to load up all the trolls on a ship and send them to Africa.
Then, in the mid-Atlantic, sink the motherfucker.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:30 pm | #
Terrell
Your use of "Oprahbama" reveals you to be Jayzee, dunce. Try again.
DJ |
03.21.08 - 4:30 pm | #
Let's watch the Oprahmabots try to make yet another fake outrage whinefest out of Bill Clinton's accurate comments.
His comments were optative, and as such are non-falsifiable.
Suck my subjunctive, bitch.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:30 pm | #
Toadies! Lemmings!
My, such a temper we have today!
We're so full of rage!
I guess it must be the slowly growing awareness that by Labor Day all this racial shit will be played out and after that it'll just Barack and Potato Head. Need we guess the outcome?
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:30 pm | #
I just can't wait for the first controversy in the new Obama administration-- the Senate hearings to confirm Wright as Secretary of Kill Whitey.
"My country, right or wrong!" is a very old misquotation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ste...omestic_service
Between 1816 and 1820, Decatur served as a Navy Commissioner. During his tenure as a Commissioner, Decatur became active in the Washington social scene. At one of his social gatherings, Decatur uttered an after-dinner toast that would become famous: "Our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right; but right or wrong, our country!" This toast is often misquoted as "My country, right or wrong!" and then attacked as a straw man by those who believe it to be an enduring and official statement of US foreign policy.
Richard |
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03.21.08 - 4:31 pm | #
A rake is defined as a man habituated to immoral conduct. Often a rake is a man who wastes his (usually inherited) fortune on wine, women and song, incurring lavish debts in the process. The rake is also frequently a cad: a man who seduces a young woman and impregnates her before leaving, often to her social or financial ruin. To call the character a rake calls attention to his promiscuity and wild spending of money; to call the character a cad implies a callous seducer who coldly breaks his victim's heart. These men are also known as heels. An alternative, weaker term is a bounder.
sou | 03.21.08 - 3:56 pm | #
Shit heel, shit wad and fuck hole also come to mind.
Henry Flower |
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03.21.08 - 4:31 pm | #
Give Obama a rifle and send him to the streets of Baghdad. Then we will see how brave he is!
Bugs
You first, racist pig.
DJ |
03.21.08 - 4:31 pm | #
So if his motives for military service aren't pure, he can't possibly love his country?
I didn't say that. I said serving doesn't necessarily mean you love your country. It is one possible motivation. But since motivations cannot be objectively proven, you must look to deeds. What deed proves he loves his country? Joining the military? Getting shot down? Getting captured? Unconstitutionally allowing a war? Refusing to exercise constitutional power to end that war?
He told Carol he loved her; his deeds didn't prove it.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:31 pm | #
Terrel,Don't argue with these people. There rants echo the speeches that Hitler gave his rightwing government supporters before and during the war. They have lots of words, but absolutely no substance!! You would just be better to say "I know you are, but what am I?"
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:31 pm | #
I think we ought to load up all the trolls on a ship and send them to Africa.
Then, in the mid-Atlantic, sink the motherfucker.
jac
That oddly parallels the Lost finale.
smarty jones |
03.21.08 - 4:31 pm | #
Terrel,Don't argue with these people. There [sic] rants echo the speeches that Hitler gave his rightwing government supporters before and during the war.
Hitler was a liberal, and stop talking to yourself.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:32 pm | #
That oddly parallels the Lost finale.
smarty jones
Terrel,Don't argue with these people. There rants echo the speeches that Hitler gave his rightwing government supporters before and during the war.
Bugs
It's "their", not "there." Jesus, don't they teach these fuckwits anything in Troll School?
DJ |
03.21.08 - 4:33 pm | #
What is Obama's position on black reparations? Anyone know and has anyone asked him?
Bugs |
Homepage |
03.21.08 - 4:33 pm | #
Ah yes. Liberals are Nazis...
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel, aren't we?
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:33 pm | #
But the loudest self-proclaimed patriots aren't patriotic at all. It's just a matter of saying the magic words, for them. Then they blindly cheer on every mind-boggling follow, stupidity, and outright piracy that characterizes the current state of affairs, wherein the powerful are only there to steal as much as they possibly can, from the much lauded American People.
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
"For the first time in my adult life I'm proud of my country"
Jayzee |
03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
I was the salutatorian at my local Troll School.
Yeah, good ol' T.S. 103.
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
Rake!
Shovel!
Didja see Ken Jennings on Jeopardy?
A: It's a garden implement, or a person of low morals
Q: What's a ho?
MikeJ |
03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
Jesus, don't they teach these fuckwits anything in Troll School?
DJ
Well, there's the shit/shinola ambiguity seminar. That one's always full.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
While I am an avowed atheist, when something that approaches the concept of poetic justice is visited upon a fool, I smile a little wider, and have been known to dance a bit.
catalexis |
03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
Terrel,Don't argue with these people.
Ah, the GOP shitbird advising his sockpuppet. How original.
Isn't that where Mr. Kotter got his start?
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
It's "their", not "there." Jesus, don't they teach these fuckwits anything in Troll School?
DJ
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Thank you, Miss Peasly.
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
What deed proves he loves his country?
Snow (D-SC)
Where in the Constitution is this a requirement for the Office of President?
If you can require that a candidate must "love is country," can I require that he be Catholic?
Isn't his position on the issues more important than divining his emotional feelings about a nation-state?
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel, aren't we?
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash
With a troll's jawbone.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:35 pm | #
Saw "Taxi to the Dark Side," the other morning. Disturbing images - pulpified limbs and lies and obfuscations and a mindset that would have been at home in the Middle-Ages -
Cheney went on MTP to announce this policy to Americans by the by - He's ridiculous and chilling in his snarling pronouncement - I'm not sure anyone took note of this announcement as such
Nuts! madly off in all... |
03.21.08 - 4:35 pm | #
BTW, what changes is Obama going to make, anyone know?
Bugs
He's not a Bush.
Next question.
Anton Hussein Chigurh |
03.21.08 - 4:35 pm | #
my point was i dont understand loving a think like a nation state. it is too i dont know. i can love people. i can love an institution. beyond the size of a small college or something it starts to lose a little meaning.
A country is its people collectively.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:35 pm | #
Decatur uttered an after-dinner toast that would become famous: "Our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she--
Decatur, oddly enough, was killed in a duel.
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:35 pm | #
Isn't that where Mr. Kotter got his start?
Zap Rowsdower
"Ronald is too sick to troll today. Signed, Mrs. Horshack."
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:35 pm | #
Spiritual mentor: "God Damn America!"
Wife: "For the first time I'm proud of my country!"
Candidate: "Typical white person"
Yeah Obama will go over in November.
Jayzee |
03.21.08 - 4:35 pm | #
Kill. Me. Now.
Over at the great Orange Satan they are arguing that the media is in the bag for Clinton. And they're serious.
~*NeonSerpent*~ |
03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
Isn't his position on the issues more important than divining his emotional feelings about a nation-state?
jac | 03.21.08 - 4:34 pm | #
Well, we've suffered almost 8 years with a President who hates his country.
It might be a nice change.
Gummo |
03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
New Barack rock n roll video
sistable |
03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
I love how Minneapolis is offering city-wide wifi but their frigging web site is down so nobody can sign up.
puppethead |
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03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
Whether we love our country is unimportant. What is important - our acceptance of what we owe our country. I am sick of listening to rethugs talk about how they love their country, and then selfishly turn their backs when asked to sacrifice for it in any way -- through taxes, concern for the environment, .... For them it;s all just take take take and give back as little as possible.
Gary Queen of Scots |
03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
Where in the Constitution is this a requirement for the Office of President?
It isn't. It is a point I am unwilling to concede to him.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
Yeah Obama will go over in November.
Jayzee
Looks like Obama's lost the low baud vote.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
E.M. Forster said that if he "had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country."
The Rove/Buh crowd changed this to:
"had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my party, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country."
Clinton is rattling this latter can.
leibniz♘☮ |
03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
I love how Minneapolis is offering city-wide wifi but their frigging web site is down so nobody can sign up.
puppethead
You're supposed to knock twice on the airport bathroom stall for the hookup.
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
What is Obama's position on black reparations? Anyone know and has anyone asked him?
Bugs
He's for reparations and killing all whiteys.
You wouldn't be white would you?
If so give me your address so that they can round you up next year.
Over at the great Orange Satan they are arguing that the media is in the bag for Clinton. And they're serious.
~*NeonSerpent*~ | 03.21.08 - 4:36 pm | #
Delete your fucking account!
Henry Flower |
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03.21.08 - 4:37 pm | #
• Interesting Clinton quote, BTW-- I don't suppose that was his way of preparing supporters for the results of a heart-to-heart he intends to have with Hillary: "Honey, it's time..."
• On another note, it would be truly innovative if McCain just took the logical next step and announced his Veep choice: the corporate media.
Does the Constitution specify that the Vice-President has to be a single person? Not to my knowledge! Everyone knows that the BBQ-sauce smeared media is McCain's greatest asset, so why not make it official?
Visitor Online |
03.21.08 - 4:37 pm | #
wow. via froomkin:
"Spokeswoman Dana Perino was making the case that it's no surprise that Bush has low poll ratings because he is overseeing an unpopular war. But then her argument went off the tracks.
"'Both the president and the vice president have long believed, and it's a part of what has made them the leaders that they are, which is not to chase popularity polls but to hold themselves to a standard that requires people not to like them,' she said."
nona |
03.21.08 - 4:37 pm | #
Obama wants Clinton out because he about to get his ass kicked in pa and all the remaining primary states
He cannot even hold on to North Carolina
Go back to your navel gazing and other bullshit activities
the game is over when someone gets the 2000 plus delegates needed and not before.
Super Delicate is Obama |
03.21.08 - 4:37 pm | #
And don't move.
Gomez
Dibs on his stamp collection.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:37 pm | #
Those darn Jefferson Davis and Lee and all! They did not love their country! They weren't patriots, and you yokels must repudiate them at once!
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:37 pm | #
I love how Minneapolis is offering city-wide wifi but their frigging web site is down so nobody can sign up.
Is it even up yet?
Hell, I'm just glad that they didn't go with Earthlink...which is getting out of the municipal wi-fi business after screwing up in other big cities.
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.21.08 - 4:37 pm | #
Fuh-huck you Bill Clinton. I stood up for you motherf**ker. Every time those Scaife-ey douchebags tried to slime you with a new "gate" and people were beginning to doubt you I was there defending you to my co-workers, to my friends to anyone who dissed you. No more. This isn't politics as usual this is you going over to the dark side with no care for who you hurt or how the party or even the country is affected. Go f**k yourself.
pissed |
03.21.08 - 4:37 pm | #
Over at the great Orange Satan they are arguing that the media is in the bag for Clinton. And they're serious.
He's for reparations and killing all whiteys.
Gomez
Last I heard, the payout would be a 2-bedroom condo and a Land Rover.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:38 pm | #
If America has intercourse with Canada, wouldn't they be lesbians?
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:38 pm | #
Oh, dear. It's bad enough that the short bus always unloads on our doorstep. Do we also have to feed the denizens of the shallow end of the gene pool?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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03.21.08 - 4:38 pm | #
If America has intercourse with Canada, wouldn't they be lesbians?
Snow (D-SC)
Depends. Does Canada have an officially-recognized Wang?
Or is it too cold to tell?
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:38 pm | #
Remember: During the 2000 campaign, the journalists and pundits told us that George W. Bush was the honest one. The straight-talking Texan. They told us this over and over and over again, until many Americans believed it. They told us that George W. Bush could unite the country, unlike the divisive Al Gore. Heck of a job,Guys!
Now, they tell us Obama is the man!
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:38 pm | #
If America has intercourse with Canada, wouldn't they be lesbians?
Snow (D-SC)
Naw, we'll just poke their British Columbia with our Florida.
Gummo |
03.21.08 - 4:39 pm | #
Go back to your navel gazing and other bullshit activities
Go back to school and learn to count. PA has 158 out of 556 remaining delegates, and no one expected Obama to take PA.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:39 pm | #
Obama also wants to be a Straight Up Gangsta President.
Anyone have a problem with that?
Gomez |
03.21.08 - 4:39 pm | #
Over at the great Orange Satan they are arguing that the media is in the bag for Clinton. And they're serious.
Meanwhile, Taylor Marsh is calling herself "blue collar". And she's serious.
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.21.08 - 4:39 pm | #
If America has intercourse with Canada, wouldn't they be lesbians?
Snow (D-SC)
Depends. Does Canada have an officially-recognized Wang?
It's pretty much all done, yes. I was in a South Minneapolis botique with my iPod touch and could access it, but since I'm not subscribed I couldn't use it.
puppethead |
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03.21.08 - 4:40 pm | #
Depends. Does Canada have an officially-recognized Wang?
If America has intercourse with Canada, wouldn't they be lesbians?
Just until graduation. Still pretty hot to watch.
MikeJ |
03.21.08 - 4:40 pm | #
Depends. Does Canada have an officially-recognized Wang
Many countries are referred to as of the female gender. Some are referred to as of the male gender, like Germany and Russia maybe.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:40 pm | #
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The explosion of a star halfway across the universe was so huge it set a record for the most distant object that could be seen on Earth by the naked eye.
The aging star, in a previously unknown galaxy, exploded in a gamma ray burst 7.5 billion light years away, its light finally reaching Earth early Wednesday.
(The world is only 6,000 years old so this story makes no sense to me)
trifecta |
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03.21.08 - 4:40 pm | #
Obama also wants to be a Straight Up Gangsta President.
she is kicking his ass in West Va and
he cannot hold to even NC she is within one point now and the trend is in he favor. She is leading in Kentucky too
so get grip -- he is fading and nothing is going to bring him back
Super Delicate is Obama |
03.21.08 - 4:41 pm | #
The aging star, in a previously unknown galaxy, exploded in a gamma ray burst 7.5 billion light years away, its light finally reaching Earth early Wednesday, after effectively securing the Republican nomination last month.
Depends. Does Canada have an officially-recognized Wang?
PEI?
Zap Rowsdower
That's not how you spell it.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:42 pm | #
Canada's a she. Frigid bitch.
Her Tierra del Fuegos are nearly always froze
ErinPDX |
03.21.08 - 4:42 pm | #
Wow. Crazy. Here, trool(s) argue that the media is All About Barack. Kossacks are livid that Hillary gets a pass. Meanwhile, McBush keeps them so busy licking BBQ sauce off their fingers, they haven't the time or the nerve to ask anything close to a substantive question, and hardly anyone bats an eyelash. 'Cept the sane, non-troll people in these parts.
ThinlyVeiled, Bottle Brunette |
03.21.08 - 4:43 pm | #
Visitor Online,
I can see hot POTUS/Vice-POTUS monkey sex with the media as VP.
McCain could be serviced by David Broder on Mondays, Jim Lehrer on Tuesdays, Cookie Roberts on Wednesdays, Brit Hume on Thursdays, and have gang-bang three day weekends.
smarty jones |
03.21.08 - 4:43 pm | #
Shit...I momentarily forgot what a "Prince Edward" is.
Zap Rowsdower
I don't know how old you people are, but do you remember the year 2001?
When Bush assumed power, America's biggest problems were:
How do we best spend the Clinton budget surplus?
Clinton had Saddam contained.
Clinton had North Korea contained and Iran was not a threat.
We had one attack on the homeland and those people were caught and sent to prison.
Plus, Clinton never sent a man into battle who didn't come home alive.
We also had the best economy in our history, but somehow, you are
convinced that She'll make decisions stupidly, like a Bush instead of smart like a Clinton.
That seems crazy to me.
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:43 pm | #
Only America gets a titanic winky! Only we are manly enough!
B1 Bummer |
03.21.08 - 4:43 pm | #
so get grip -- he is fading and nothing is going to bring him back
Super Delicate is Obama
Those are in May, dumbass.
Hillary has no upside and is already too far behind.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:43 pm | #
Hail to the Chief may have to be changed if Obama is President.
so get grip -- he is fading and nothing is going to bring him back
Did you read "The Press and Clinton" post?
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.21.08 - 4:43 pm | #
I heard the St. Lawrence seaway is open for traffic.
leibniz
You mean they finally got the lane lines painted?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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03.21.08 - 4:44 pm | #
Prince Albert.
Ahhh.
See how long it's been since I was cool?
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.21.08 - 4:44 pm | #
It's pretty much all done, yes. I was in a South Minneapolis botique with my iPod touch and could access it, but since I'm not subscribed I couldn't use it.
puppethead
The one in Saint Louis Park has all the infrastructure up but everyone is suing everyone else, with the result that the infrastructure is probably just going to sit there and rot.
Adam Hominem,unbanned since 08 |
03.21.08 - 4:44 pm | #
Obama doesn't want voters in Michigan and Florida to vote or have their votes counted.
Voters in Michigan and Florida did not vote in the primary.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:44 pm | #
Obama doesn't want voters in Michigan and Florida to vote or have their votes counted.
What votes?
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:44 pm | #
I think I live in Canada's shrivelled up wang. It kinda sticks out a bit into the ocean. No, it's not much.
Moe Szyslak |
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03.21.08 - 4:44 pm | #
Ah, I finally see the poor troll's confusion.
Can someone with more patience than me explain to Bugs in words of one syllable or less that BILL Clinton is not running for President?
Gummo |
03.21.08 - 4:44 pm | #
Shit...I momentarily forgot what a "Prince Edward" is.
Zap Rowsdower
Prince Albert.
A Prince Edward has a wood duck tied to your penis.
leibniz♘☮ |
03.21.08 - 4:45 pm | #
Ickes doesn't want voters in Michigan and Florida to vote or have their votes counted.
Obama doesn't want voters in Michigan and Florida to vote or have their votes counted.
Let that be a lesson next time someone wants to fuck with NH or Iowa.
Gomez |
03.21.08 - 4:45 pm | #
I say we just do what Bill Clinton said. Let's have Barack Obama v. Sean Hannity in a one-on-one basketball game for the presidency. Forget all these other people.
benintn |
03.21.08 - 4:45 pm | #
Germany is the Vaterland, the Fatherland.
Russia is the Rodina, the Motherland.
Interestingly, Stalin did not rally the masses to defend the Revolution, but to defend the Rodina.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
03.21.08 - 4:45 pm | #
A Prince Edward has a wood duck tied to your penis.
See? Just as kinky as a Prince Albert.
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.21.08 - 4:45 pm | #
It's snowing like crazy out there!
pie |
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03.21.08 - 4:46 pm | #
As President Hillary confronts a problem. She goes to Bill for advice. As President Obama confronts a problem. He goes to Michele for advice. Hmmm....
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:46 pm | #
Clinton had Saddam contained. Nope. Clinton had North Korea contained and Iran was not a threat. Nope We had one attack on the homeland and those people were caught and sent to prison. Nope. Plus, Clinton never sent a man into battle who didn't come home alive. Nope
In comfortable mukluks.
Adam Hominem,unbanned since 08 |
03.21.08 - 4:46 pm | #
A Prince Edward has a wood duck tied to your penis.
"That's just a decoy, baby."
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:46 pm | #
Those are in May, dumbass.
Hillary has no upside and is already too far behind.
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Grand Moff Texan | Homepage | 03.21.08 - 4:43 pm | #
so what if they are in May they still count
How Obama of you to think you can only count the states where you win
If he does get the nomination, he will not win the general. He needs
Florida or Michigan or Ohio and with the attitude of people like you there is no chance.
You must have been a Patriots fan and wanted the game to end early
Super Delicate is Obama |
03.21.08 - 4:47 pm | #
(The world is only 6,000 years old so this story makes no sense to me)
Here's an actual response I got from a fundamentalist Christian when I asked him about such things...
When the universe was created, God did in such a way that the light from distant objects was already in transit. He did this so we wouldn't feel lonely in the universe. It shows just how much he really loves us.
Richard |
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03.21.08 - 4:47 pm | #
Chris Wallace takes on Fox n Friends this morning. I wonder why the change of heart? He scolded them for bashing Obama for 2 hours over racial statements, when he thought they should be covering Passport Breach and Bill Richardsons endorsement.
shocked |
03.21.08 - 4:47 pm | #
Somehow I get the crazy feeling that ole Bugs is not actually a Hillary supporter.
Maybe it was the "Send Obama to Baghdad with a rifle" comment.
Sheesh. Its sad to be so stupid that you can't dupe anyone.
Raoul Paste |
03.21.08 - 4:47 pm | #
They did a crap job in St. Louis Park. It doesn't run properly. Lying consultants suck.
puppethead
Therein lies the problem.
Adam Hominem,unbanned since 08 |
03.21.08 - 4:47 pm | #
Interesting how Obama's negatives are still lower than either Hillary's or McStain's. http://www.pollingreport.com/o.htm
Guess some of us here are gettin' kinda antsy over the propect of an Ombama candidacy, eh?
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:47 pm | #
Interesting how Obama's negatives are still lower than either Hillary's or McStain's. http://www.pollingreport.com/o.htm
Guess some of us here are gettin' kinda antsy over the propect of an Ombama candidacy, eh?
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:47 pm | #
As President Obama confronts a problem. He goes to Michele for advice.
But she was too busy kicking your limp corpse, so he did what he wanted to anyway.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:47 pm | #
So what's an example of an ironic beer (to be drunk un-ironically). I gave you the PBR example for the converse.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.21.08 - 4:48 pm | #
so what if they are in May they still count
Yes. They do. Now reading a fucking calendar, you dumb cunt.
How Obama of you to think you can only count the states where you win
Uh, no, that's so hung on Mark Penn it's already a cliché.
Don't you have any training before they put you in front of a computer?
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:48 pm | #
More likely Bass Bustin' with Billy Joe Bob in between reruns of Flipper.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
03.21.08 - 4:50 pm | #
Somehow I get the crazy feeling that ole Bugs is not actually a Hillary supporter.
Raoul Paste
Ya think?
Adam Hominem,unbanned since 08 |
03.21.08 - 4:50 pm | #
It feels like Good Friday. Make sense?
I always felt a cold, rainy day was appropriate back when I used to be religious.
A new catholic just was built near here. They put in a baptismal spa for adults. The whole dunking pool thing. WTF?
pie |
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03.21.08 - 4:50 pm | #
I know getting a blow job in the oval office meant devotion to the interest of the country, but...
Post It |
03.21.08 - 4:50 pm | #
Is Jesus dead yet? I wanna microwave some peeps!
leibniz♘☮
Dies at 3 every Good Friday.
Gomez |
03.21.08 - 4:50 pm | #
It feels like Manhattan is deserted. Mrs. Gummo got to leave her office at 3:00. Yet I still have to sit here another 45 minutes.
Yeah, I left at 3 PM, too. The streets were quiet. There are a bunch of tourists, but not too overwhelming.
The air is crystalline. Really REALLY blue sky.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.21.08 - 4:50 pm | #
When the universe was created, God did in such a way that the light from distant objects was already in transit. He did this so we wouldn't feel lonely in the universe. It shows just how much he really loves us.
These cretins can rationalize away just about anything in defense of their invisible sky buddy.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
03.21.08 - 4:51 pm | #
With the sorry condition our country is in I firmly believe that Hillary is the only candidate that can begin to straighten it out on Day 1.....and even with her wisdon, past experience and know-how it will take a full 4 year term to overcome the problems our current administration has created. No other candidate has as much to offer at this vital time in our history.
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:51 pm | #
I suggest the Theme from Shaft to replace Hail to the Chief.
Gomez
More like FOX Business, with the SAP set to "cracker."
Didn't have the heart to tell him it's all paid programming at that hour.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:51 pm | #
So what's an example of an ironic beer (to be drunk un-ironically). I gave you the PBR example for the converse.
I think we were thinking the same thing, and I mangled it. But yeah, the PBR effect is worth a grad-school study or something.
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:52 pm | #
No kidding. They had pictures of the grand opening. The pool's so big I looked for a diving board.
pie |
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03.21.08 - 4:52 pm | #
A new catholic just was built near here. They put in a baptismal spa for adults. The whole dunking pool thing. WTF?
pie
Are you sure? Catholics practice infant baptism, with the baptismal font near the front door of the church.
DJ |
03.21.08 - 4:52 pm | #
"This weekend the New York City
Auto Show begins. I hear Eliot Spitzer
may be in the market for a Hummer."
-- Letterman
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:52 pm | #
Hey, when Saddam went into Kuwait back in the day was it because the Kuwaitis were drinking Saddam's milkshake?
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.21.08 - 4:52 pm | #
It would always rain on Easter and my mother would say, "Look at this! On Passover the sun shines and we get rain!"
It was a competition, you know.
res ipsa loquitur
The Jews control the weather, too?
Hollywood wasn't enough for them, I guess.
Adam Hominem,unbanned since 08 |
03.21.08 - 4:53 pm | #
A new catholic just was built near here. They put in a baptismal spa for adults. The whole dunking pool thing. WTF?
pie
They build Catholics now? I'd rather do it the old-fashioned way, no pun intended.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:53 pm | #
These cretins can rationalize away just about anything in defense of their invisible sky buddy.
Those fossils were put in the ground by God to test our faith, or Satan put them there to deceive us. Take your pick.
Richard |
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03.21.08 - 4:53 pm | #
I read somewhere this morning that Bill Richardson sent notice of his endorsement at 3Am.
funny If true |
03.21.08 - 4:53 pm | #
Catholic church, that is.
pie |
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03.21.08 - 4:53 pm | #
and even with her wisdon, past experience
Yes, I'd forgotten about her "wisdon" [sic]. Most people who breed Hillaries have those removed at puppyhood, but hers has become iconic.
And what about her future experience? Why won't the liberal media talk about that?
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:54 pm | #
The Jews control the weather, too?
They get so much done in a day.
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:54 pm | #
Jay C.,
I bet you don't look like a dumbass drinking it (in a trucker cap or a porkpie hat) like the Williamsburg hipsters do.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.21.08 - 4:54 pm | #
Hey, when Saddam went into Kuwait back in the day was it because the Kuwaitis were drinking Saddam's milkshake?
Nope. He really needed the money. They were drinking his milkshake and he did say that was the reason. But it was money. He needed their oil production capacity.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:54 pm | #
Hey, when Saddam went into Kuwait back in the day was it because the Kuwaitis were drinking Saddam's milkshake?
"It's good to have another combat veteran around. I myself, helped secure the Montgomery Ward's in Kuwait City."
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.21.08 - 4:54 pm | #
Those fossils were put in the ground by God to test our faith, or Satan put them there to deceive us. Take your pick.
Richard
Yup, as Bill Hicks used to say, "Ah, so he's a trickster god! He's fucking with us!"
Gummo |
03.21.08 - 4:54 pm | #
..."why quit the Indy 500 at 485 miles?"
unless of course you are a quitter or a big ass baby who is afraid to compete and wants to be annointed the winner and not really win
afraid to compete in Florida and Michigan because he knows he cannot win Obama stood in the way of the revotes although allowed by the DNBC rules first he said he would abide by the decision of the DNC and then he said he would't
first he said he would
and then he said he wouldn't
well what are we going to do...
Super Delicate is Obama |
03.21.08 - 4:55 pm | #
I bet you don't look like a dumbass drinking it (in a trucker cap or a porkpie hat) like the Williamsburg hipsters do.
res ipsa loquitur
The trucker hat is just trouble. And I drink the good stuff. Except for Narragansett, which is awful but has a certain misbegotten pride of place.
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:55 pm | #
Are you sure?
I'm afraid so. There were pictures of the new St. Joseph RC Church.
pie |
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03.21.08 - 4:55 pm | #
The Jews control the weather, too?
They why do they have to fly to Florida?
Gomez |
03.21.08 - 4:55 pm | #
Hey, when Saddam went into Kuwait back in the day was it because the Kuwaitis were drinking Saddam's milkshake?
res ipsa loquitur
Sort of.
Saddam's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
I doubt it's better than yours, though.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:55 pm | #
Damn Fool Quotes
"Obama has an ability to help us bridge the divide in religious extremism,
to maybe even give power to moderate Islam."
-- John Kerry, opening his damn fool mouth again Link
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:55 pm | #
I thought they were done being ironic a few years ago.
/looks at pearl snap-button cowboy shirt I have on
Zap Rowsdower |
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03.21.08 - 4:56 pm | #
Uh oh. The Detroit police and firemen's pension plans owns 13,500 shares of Bear Stearns. They're suing to stop the sale.
pie |
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03.21.08 - 4:56 pm | #
"It's good to have another combat veteran around. I myself, helped secure the Montgomery Ward's in Kuwait City."
Zap Rowsdower
Heh.
The US soldier who commandeered the Montgomery Wards in Chicago was a friend of mine.
jac |
03.21.08 - 4:56 pm | #
Yup, as Bill Hicks used to say, "Ah, so he's a trickster god! He's fucking with us!"
Well, He 'hardened Pharaoh's heart,' Exodus 14:17, so that Pharaoh couldn't do what God demanded.
All so that God could kill more Egyptians.
God is a terrorist. A sloppy one at that.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:56 pm | #
Quotes
"He did not oversimplify. He actually brought down his rhetorical tone a notch so that
this would be something that brought light and not heat to a subject on which there is
so much heat...I actually think that the speech did call out to Americans' better angels."
-- Rachel Maddow, using that odd language I don't understand,
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 4:57 pm | #
So...
what exactly was Bill Clinton expected to to in front of a bunch of old vets...
shit on McCain?
*sigh*
to avoid getting way off topic, happy weekend all and good day.
willyjsimmons |
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03.21.08 - 4:57 pm | #
I am seeing this play tonight.
res ipsa loquitur |
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03.21.08 - 4:57 pm | #
Did you get that, Bugs? Those five things you struck out on. I am old enough to have been there.
Snow (D-SC) |
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03.21.08 - 4:57 pm | #
Official Hipster Gear here includes ridiculously skinny pants ("boys wearing girl pants" as Neko Case calls them) to start. Everything else is just accessories, I think.
Jay C. |
03.21.08 - 4:57 pm | #
Looks like Bartcop saw "Islam" and missed that "moderate" part, which is why it didn't make sense.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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03.21.08 - 4:58 pm | #
Another new name, hadenough?
DJ |
03.21.08 - 4:59 pm | #
Yup, as Bill Hicks used to say, "Ah, so he's a trickster god! He's fucking with us!"
Killing off the entire human race except for Noah's crew was one hell of a trick.
A human leader with the attributes of the old testament God would be considered the worst monster in history.
I have to laugh when Christians try to claim that atheists can't have any morality because they don't happen to worship a mass murderer.
Richard |
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03.21.08 - 5:01 pm | #
Friday cat blogging: The leibniz 13 year old siamese is down to one fang:
Did you get that, Bugs? Those five things you struck out on. I am old enough to have been there.
Snow (D-SC)
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But, you were wrong on everyone of them! You're not very bright, are you?
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 5:11 pm | #
You people are mostly Naderites. You gave the country Bush and now your going to give us McCain. Damn you people!
Bugs |
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03.21.08 - 5:13 pm | #
'The Adding Machine' is a really interesting play. Saw it maybe 40 years ago and was struck by it, a kind of expressionist, Freud/'Modern Times'/Fordian take on American life. One of its speeches destroys, forever, the notion of evolution as teleologically driven, rather than a matter of contingency...
ProfWombat |
03.21.08 - 5:27 pm | #
Einstein famously said, 'The Lord is subtle, but not malicious.'
ProfWombat |
03.21.08 - 5:28 pm | #
" ... all this other stuff ..."
Like trashing the will of voters in two of the largest states. AKA, the 48 state strategy.
cal1942 |
03.21.08 - 5:29 pm | #
Wow! Greasemonkey rawks! Thanks to whomever suggested it.
David Eoll |
03.21.08 - 6:02 pm | #
Where is that quote from?
Jay |
03.21.08 - 7:07 pm | #
do Obama supporters need to be victims multiple times a day?
clbrune |
03.21.08 - 7:46 pm | #
but Obama feels like he's the most qualified person in the country to lead the planet.
We're about to give someone unlimited power - should it be an unknown?
Bugs | Homepage | 03.21.08 - 4:08 pm | #
No, I agree with you. It should be a known commodity. Someone that has shown, time and time again that he or she will always make the WRONG decision when it comes to foreign policy judgments. Someone like . . . . say Hillary or McCain.
Yeah, that's the ticket!
Donald Duck |
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03.21.08 - 8:01 pm | #
do Obama supporters need to be victims multiple times a day?
clbrune | 03.21.08 - 7:46 pm | #
Gee, I don't know?
Do HRC supporters need to show themselves to be lying or delusional shills 24/7?
Donald Duck |
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03.21.08 - 8:02 pm | #
Somehow, I think that an air of quiet confidence would suit the Obama campaign better than turning the knobs up to 11. But what do I know?
lambert strether |
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03.21.08 - 9:27 pm | #
"But what do I know?"
The one thing you don't know is that your candidate is toast, but, unfortunately, neither has she.
Kevin K. |
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03.21.08 - 9:44 pm | #
"...neither does she."
*burp*
Kevin K. |
Homepage |
03.21.08 - 9:45 pm | #
He was likened to McCarthy by an Obama aide for this comment.
Nell |
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03.21.08 - 10:48 pm | #
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
idiotic |
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03.21.08 - 10:53 pm | #
God Have Mercy-what do we have to do to make the Clintons go away.
It's over.
We need to win in November-and take down Fox News to boot-racist pigs.
anna |
03.22.08 - 3:15 am | #
Bill has a rare penile disorder called Peyronie's, which causes his penis to tilt to the left. Both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. were fascinated by this (thanks to access to secrect FBI reports). Basically, who should care (other than Monica and Hillary)?
If Bill thinks that Hillary and John are more "patriotic" than Obama, maybe we should start caring more about where his penis tilts. After all, his opinion about both matters equally.
Incidentally, Bill and Hillary Clinton did not serve in the American military during Vietnam (neither did Dick Cheney or Joe Lieberman). John McCain crashed 4 expensive planes in training before he was shot down over North Vietman after only 20 hours of combat. War hero? Hardly.
radlib1 |
03.22.08 - 3:38 am | #
Look like Billary are seeking their own VP slot: McCain -- Clinton '08
They're turning into the new Libermann.
Demosthenes |
03.22.08 - 6:56 am | #
I just can't wait for the first controversy in the new Obama administration-- the Senate hearings to confirm Wright as Secretary of Kill Whitey.
I think the first controversy will be when he tries to appoint Republican Romney as Secretary of Lookin' Good. He's already said he intends to make this controversial cabinet appointment.
Pug |
03.22.08 - 10:20 am | #
(From an eyewitness):
In Bill’s Defense
It isn’t often that I’m called to defend Bill Clinton, but since I was present in Charlotte, N.C., Friday when he made the remarks — now being spun by the Obama campaign as “like McCarthy” — I’m compelled to set the record straight.
The AP is reporting that Hillary Clinton is trying to clarify comments by her husband that “seemed to question” Barack Obama’s patriotism and that an Obama aide likened to Joseph McCarthy. Nonsense.
In no way did I interpret Clinton’s remarks as questioning Obama’s patriotism. Clinton was making the case for his wife’s electability against McCain, who last time I checked is the presumptive Republican nominee and her challenger should she win the Democratic nomination. He may have intentionally bypassed Obama in his leap to match Hillary against McCain, but he didn’t say anything that could be construed as questioning Obama’s patriotism. The sequence went as follows: He noted that Hillary polls ahead of McCain in Ohio and Florida and also that McCain leads “Hillary’s opponent” (I quit typing here and don’t recall exactly which states he mentioned in that part of his comment.) His point, obviously, was that Hillary should be the nominee and, in that case, she and McCain would face each other in the final contest.
Before he made the so-called controversial remarks, he praised McCain as an “honorable man,” who has “paid the highest price short of giving your life.” He mentioned that though Hillary and McCain disagree on many issues, they’ve worked together successfully on others. In that context, he said it would be great “if you had two people who really love this country and ask who’s right on these issues” instead of all the non-essential clutter that now distracts in politics.
This was toward the end of his talk, which focused on Iraq and the economy. Obama was no longer on the radar at this point. Bill Clinton was saying that Hillary and McCain are both good patriots who love their country, not that all those unmentioned are something else. At least that’s the way I heard it. Now, if I were the sort of reporter who looks for some random sentence to blow up into an attention-grabbing headline . . .