HULK SMASH
Mark it 8, Dude.
Kaaaahhhhhnnnnnn!
MARK IT ZERO!!!!
The weakening economy seems to have some good prospects in the automotive world for the US.
Getting the perspective of actual Iraqis would require actual reporting.
Iraqis? Who cares? They caused 9/11!
They need to be accorded punctuation mark status.
I think you mean "as the Iraq war was unfolding", A.
GWPDA? You around? If so, happy birthday, you Aries you!
Fucking telemarketers!!!
And Thers sucks! Happy 1,000,000 visitors, lout.
dead-threaded:
I'm two score and three.
attaturk
Ah, then at least we share a birth year. I'll turn 43 in November.
Hell, the perspectives of actual Americans are almost never heard.
They don't count, even as casualties. To the U.S. public, they don't seem to even be real people. They're extras on the set of our noble crusade againt terrizm and salamifascism.
This is all completely unexpected!
-
Happy birfday, fezhead.
Getting the perspective of actual Iraqis would require actual reporting.
Philly Boy | 03.26.08 - 11:45 am | #
and someone who speaks arabic.
And Thers sucks! Happy 1,000,000 visitors, lout.
Snow (D-SC)
A million. Wow.
I'll hit 200,000 in a couple of months or so ... but a million? I'd have to do nothing but blog for ten years to ... oh, wait.
Never mind.
A very interesting article about the stories of the KLA harvesting organs from Serbian prisoners. Well thought out and reasonable.
Did I mention Lindsey Graham is celebrating a 6 monthiversary today?
Getting the perspective of actual Iraqis would require actual reporting.
Philly Boy | 03.26.08 - 11:45 am | #
And acknowledging that they are actual people.
Al Maliki is the voice of all Iraqis, jsut like George Bush is the voice of all Americans.
They don't count, even as casualties. To the U.S. public, they don't seem to even be real people.
they are a theoretical concept that deserve the god-given right of american democracy.
I'm two score and three.
attaturk
Ah, then at least we share a birth year. I'll turn 43 in November.
Sinfonian, righteously angry
I'm in the trifecta as well. May.
Or, you could read about what a first meeting for a theater production is like.
There's nothing more peaceful and democratic than a graveyard.
Darth and w have killed more Iraqis than Saddam and still counting.
Who the fuck cares about the Iraqis?
And from below -
Amtrak owns the Northeast Corridor from DC to Boston - got it when Penn Central went urpsie in the early '70s (the lines had been New Haven and Pennnsylvania Railroad electrified corridors).
Everywhere else, freight rail companies own the ROW - Amtrak has exclusive passenger rail operation rights. Some small exceptions in California (some state-owned segments, IIRC) - but otherwise, Amtrak operates at the mercy of freight rail dispatchers. Some companies are better than others *coughUP*.
they are a theoretical concept that deserve the god-given right of american democracy.
Maybe we could share with them the god-given rights we have enjoyed for so long. Oh, wait' Bush is taking away those from us too.
Most people in this country are ignorant and apathetic. If things get bad economically, they'll turn more and more wingnut.
Dead-threaded:
I thought that was the deal in the rest of the country. And why Amtrak service sucks everywhere else because they are made to wait for freight train priority.
Snow (D-SC)
Amtrak owns the "Northeast Corridor" from Boston to NYC to Washington, and Philadelphia to Harrisburg.
They also have effective control of several routes in California (owned by the state).
ALI FADHIL: Awakening council, exactly. They're giving them money to protect their own neighborhoods. Isn't that the same what happened under Saddam? . .
But they're not being paid, so it don't count.
If an Iraqi talks about his country and the media refuses to hear him, does he make a sound?
Before a congressional hearing, Gunn [Amtrak director] answered a demand by leading Amtrak critic Arizona Senator John McCain to eliminate all operating subsidies by asking the Senator if he would also demand the same of the commuter airlines, upon whom the citizens of Arizona are dependent. McCain, usually not at a loss for words when debating Amtrak funding, did not reply
Fuck McCaint!
Their biggest problem is that they ran out of flowers to throw at us.
B1 Bummer :They don't count, even as casualties. To the U.S. public, they don't seem to even be real people. They're extras on the set of our noble crusade againt terrizm and salamifascism.
Elinationist rhetoric:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/gre...postid-
updateY1
DrEyeBall : Don't be fooled into thinking that this applies only to African-Americans. The sense of threatened tribalism is at the root of movement conservatism, and always has been.
This is why it was so easy to sell most of white America on the Iraq war. Polls showed that 2/3 thought that Saddam had something to do with 9/11, or at least close ties to AlQ. . . .
Take almost any one of their "thoughtful" screeds about Islam and do a global search/replace from "Islam" to "niggers" and the text becomes instantly recognizable. This racist energy had for a long time been at least partly directed towards "the Communists" but now that it isn't it is pretty much clear that Islam is now the designated nigger.
Not us! They don't care about democracy! They're not ready for it. They've been fighting for thousands of years. It's their own fault we have to kill them. Their kids, too. They'll just grow up to be as bad as the adults. Right, cons?
Should You Stay Away From Jim Cramer?
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Busine...=4524010&
page=1
'He might be the most celebrated stock picker on TV, but many say Jim Cramer got it wrong and some have renewed an older criticism of the television host: Small investors who follow Cramer stand to lose big.'
Hooray for teh Surge...the best idea since invading Iraq!!
Rockets hit the Green Zone in Baghdad amid street battles; militias mobilize in Najaf; and in Sadr's stronghold in Basra, open fighting between the Iraqi Army and the militias kills dozens. Shi'ite militias affiliated with radical cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr have apparently overruled Sadr's ceasefire order, which to a great extent had been responsible for security improvements in recent months.
And where's the British Army during all this? Hunkered at the airport outside Basra, where in December Major General Graham Binns signed documents officially handing over security in the region to Iraqi forces. I was there for the ceremony (videos here and here), and in the aftermath I wrote that the British had effectively surrendered any ability to intervene in Basra. With no forward bases, no intelligence apparatus in the city of Basra, less nimble equipment and no political will to suffer a single additional casualty in Iraq, the roughly 3,000 Brits remaining in the country can do little but wait out the current fighting.
JAc is right. a bill in 71 or 72 gave Amtrak the ability to buy the NE corriodor.
OK, so what happens at the border? For example, can I take a train to Toronto? Would I need to change trains at the border?
Before a congressional hearing, Gunn [Amtrak director] answered a demand by leading Amtrak critic Arizona Senator John McCain to eliminate all operating subsidies by asking the Senator if he would also demand the same of the commuter airlines, upon whom the citizens of Arizona are dependent. McCain, usually not at a loss for words when debating Amtrak funding, did not reply
Heh. Indeed. No aide must have been in ear whisper distance.
Having read 2/3rds of that link.
WOW!!!
FUCKING WOW!
Charlie Rose is an incredible douchebag (I'm sure that's been said before)
But the transcript of Jennings interview with Iraqis on the first night of the war is amazing.
I wonder what has happened to those guys?
If an Iraqi talks about his country and the media refuses to hear him, does he make a sound?
No, but the bombs will, and eventually he will fall in the woods.
Just just carbon neutral, carbon negative!
One such plan proposed by two Columbia University professors would suck CO2 out of the air by using a solar power plant's waste heat. The professors said the process could remove about five pounds of CO2 for every kilowatt-hour of electricity produced. A coal-based power plant emits about two pounds of CO2 per kilowatt-hour of electricity produced.
Rose was as adversarial and argumentative -- angry, even -- as he ever gets with anyone, because he plainly did not anticipate, and did not like, that he was being exposed to such hostility towards our Freedom-spreading, Liberty-loving Liberation of the grateful, lucky (dead and displaced) Iraqi people.
no one could have anticipated hostility.
Remember, if you go outside today, always move and act like you're under sniper fire. It's both a political statement and good training useful in the near future.
Exactly. Also substitute n-word for liberal. When Rush blabs about how "liberals" wreck the govt. of every place they control, etc., referencing Detroit, Louisiana, etc.
Limited cross-border operations:
Chicago to Toronto
NYC to Montreal
JAc is right. a bill in 71 or 72 gave Amtrak the ability to buy the NE corriodor.
euphronius
No, Amtrak was "given" the NEC on April 1, 1977, when Conrail was formed.
That process began in 1975.
Amtrak was formed in 1971, a process that actually began in the 1950s.
Back when the DC metro sniper team was driving around, I always walked fast and zigzagged when outside.
One such plan proposed by two Columbia University professors would suck CO2 out of the air by using a solar power plant's waste heat. The professors said the process could remove about five pounds of CO2 for every kilowatt-hour of electricity produced. A coal-based power plant emits about two pounds of CO2 per kilowatt-hour of electricity produced.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 11:52 am | #
But...CO2 is essential to life! We'll all die! And those thst survive will go back to cave-dwelling and cannibalism!
The wingnuts have been scarace since that big chunk of Antartica broke off and the Shites are fighting American troops in Iraq. I bet big oil troops deaths will be over 20 or 30. They're not releasing the numbers from there yet.
Remember, if you go outside today, always move and act like you're under sniper fire. It's both a political statement and good training useful in the near future.
Perhaps when that really happens people will stop funding war.
Back when the DC metro sniper team was driving around, I always walked fast and zigzagged when outside
Maybe that's what Hillary was remembering.
I'm not quite sure how we get people on the phone. But we've had two phone calls like that tonight and the very least they are an admonition that if Americans end up in Baghdad, perhaps not everybody is going to welcome them.
And he was supposed to be one of the smart media bots.
I'm in the trifecta as well. May.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office
I hope trifecta doesn't mind.
Incog = Cassandra
71, 72, 78, whatever.
i'm older than any one of you.
ok, maybe not chronologically.
Remember, if you go outside today, always move and act like you're under sniper fire. It's both a political statement and good training useful in the near future.
Mike | 03.26.08 - 11:53 am | #
"Serpentine, Shel, serpentine!"
From the NYT:
BAGHDAD — The Iraqi prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, a day after launching a huge operation that ignited heavy fighting in two of Iraq’s largest cities, gave the Shiite militias controlling the southern oil city of Basra an ultimatum on Wednesday: lay down their weapons within 72 hours or face more severe consequences.
Now, I have to wonder how much more trouble than having your government in armed military opposition to you you can get? He won't be allowed to bid on government contracts? They're going to put him on a no-fly list? What?
Could some of Washington’s finest pundits please start to mention the word OIL now.
Because all this trouble that is breaking out is all about oil. Bush/Cheney are putting huge pressure on the Iraqi Govt to sign the oil act.
Most Iraqis do not want to give 2/3 of their resources away. And seeing as even Greenspan has said it is all about oil, you would think someone might start calling them on it.
Incog = Cassandra
Cassandra was right, though...
"Big Oil troops"
i like that.
did you know the first bases in Iraq in 2003 were named after oil companies?
Back when the DC metro sniper team was driving around, I always walked fast and zigzagged when outside
Maybe that's what Hillary was remembering.
Marcellina
I shouldn't, but 
I don't want no trouble, now.
Those Iraqis did not sound very grateful for our opportunity bombs.
Cassandra was right, though...
Point well made. I was thinking more of his Henny Penny stylings than whether or not he's correct.
71, 72, 78, whatever.
euphronius
DON'T MOCK THE 1970S MOTHERFUCKER!
...the perspectives of actual Iraqis are almost never heard.
Hey, we got Chalabi, we need all those gloomy Guses?
FYI:
Bio-Technologies, Genetic-Technologies and Nano-Technologies for produce Bacteria, Microbots, Hybrid-Bacteria-Microbots with Micro-Infra-Red-Solar-Cells, Nanobots, Hybrid-Bacteria-Nanobots with Nano-Infra-Red-Solar-Cells for eating up, clean up, in-collect for radiations produce for elements, materials and radiations from, out the Environment and close in to internal Isolation by metals components and biological components in this Bacteria, Microbots, Hybrid-Bacteria-Microbots with Micro-Infra-Red-Solar-Cells, Nanobots, Hybrid-Bacteria-Nanobots with Nano-Infra-Red-Solar-Cells for helping, recovery and restore the Environment after Nuclearattacks aganist People's Republic of China and 2rd Subterranean Underground Environment, Infranstruktur with Hightechnologies Industries, Agriculture Industries, Military Forces and Civil Toopers into Subterranean Underground Chinese Military Bunkers- and Tunnels-Networkssystems under People's Republic of China for Defense and Helping reposons before or after Invasions and Attacks and too People's Republic of China have to do building on Decentral Chinese Government Administrationsnetworks with Administrations, Contol-, Communitions- and Commands-Centers in Chinese Military Bunkers- and Tunnels-Networkssystems and Military Aircrafts in compelt the People's Republic of China outside from Capitals for Vice-President, Vice-Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Ministers, Vice Ministers, Deputy Ministers, Under Ministers, Generals of Chinese Military Forces and chairmans of all the Government Departments and Agency !
what the Americans are doing are destroying the whole country and I don't think at all that democracy and political reforms will appear for this war.
mission accomplished.
Note to Satan. Spell check is not proofreading:
Please read and co-sign the letter to the FEC right now.
http://action.firedoglake.com/mccainfec
We've had a number of co-singers to the document already including:
Incog, I'm one of those around here who supported you for a long, long time when others were labeling you a troll. Hell, I still think you can be articulate and funny, and I miss the stories about String.
What finally got to me was the racism and the fact that you think everyone is anti-homosexual.
You may think those things, but they're not true of most of the people on this blog.
DON'T MOCK THE 1970S MOTHERFUCKER!
jac
-------------------------
Having endured the seventies during my teens, I prefer to just forget them....and pretend that the sixties and eighties just sort of slid together.
Is there any video after Hillary hugged the little girl at Tuzla? Something that might show her leisurely strolling to the car. Or did the press all turn off their cameras at that point?
Having endured the seventies during my teens, I prefer to just forget them
the seventies were the decade of ...
um ...
well, i'm sure they were the decade of something.
In the private sector, what the U.S. is doing in Iraq would be called "mass murder" or some such other unpleasant thing. The fact that Iraqis also kill the shit out of each other and our people when they can doesn't excuse that. Especially when we're the ones who made this godforsaken mess in the first place.
Who are these Iraqis of whom you speak? John McCain is going to demand that they apologize to General Petraeus.
Iraqi PM Gives Basra Gunmen Ultimatum
Rocket Attacks Hit Green Zone
By Sholnn Freeman and Sudarsan Raghavan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, March 26, 2008; 11:39 AM
BAGHDAD, March 26 -- Clashes continued Wednesday between Iraqi security forces and Shiite militias in the southern city of Basra, as Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki laid down a deadline for gunmen to surrender and fresh rocket attacks hit Baghdad's Green Zone.
The U.S. Embassy in the Iraqi capital said that three Americans were badly hurt by the latest strikes in the Green Zone, a fortified area that houses the U.S. Embassy compound and the Iraqi government, according to the Associated Press. No further details were immediately available. Mortars and rockets have struck the Green Zone and other U.S. positions repeatedly since Sunday, with U.S. officials reporting 12 strikes Tuesday.
A very interesting article about the stories of the KLA harvesting organs from Serbian prisoners. Well thought out and reasonable.
Marcellina | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 11:47 am |
Thought it Muir did a good job on breaking that down.
Or did the press all turn off their cameras at that point?
they had to in order to duck the snipers.
the seventies were the decade of ...
Curable STDs.
Is there any video after Hillary hugged the little girl at Tuzla?
Who cares anymore? What difference does it make if her life was in mortal danger or not?
American Conservative endorses Obama?
http://www.amconmag.com/2008/200...24/
article.html
...mission accomplished.
euphronius Night School!
97% of American casualties came after MA Day.
Someone really needs to write the definitive Iraq War book, and call it "Junior's War"...
Mortars and rockets have struck the Green Zone and other U.S. positions repeatedly since Sunday, with U.S. officials reporting 12 strikes Tuesday.
And we can't shoot back.
Well, let me tell you something, that the only period that Iraq shows development was in these 30 years we live. Before that, during the British occupation, Iraqis were suffering. And the British were stealing our oil. It seem that now, the Americans want to do the same.
Mission Accomplished.
The fact that Iraqis also kill the shit out of each other and our people when they can doesn't excuse that.
you don't watch enough gritty cop shows. don't you know we have to kill the gang members before they kill each other?
American Conservative endorses Obama?
It's triple reverse psychology. They want you to think they're supporting Obama, so you will support Hillary, whom they believe McCain can defeat more easily. Or something like that.
I wonder if some of Halliburton's unaccounted for billions went to the candy and flowers which never materialized for the Iraqis to throw.
Is there any video after Hillary hugged the little girl at Tuzla? Something that might show her leisurely strolling to the car. Or did the press all turn off their cameras at that point?
Snow (D-SC)
CBS last night
Elmer, PHD (horrible) | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 12:03 pm | #
the mission was accomplished then. the whole point was to occupy iraq. we did. MA.
I seem to remember footage of interviews "on the street" with ordinary Iraqis in the weeks running up to the invasion, and they were all saying the same thing, "why are you talking about war with us? what have we done to you? leave us alone!"
Is there any video after Hillary hugged the little girl at Tuzla? Something that might show her leisurely strolling to the car. Or did the press all turn off their cameras at that point?
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 12:01 pm |
I'm going to have to smack you, aren't I?
I suspect the footage was shot, but whether it made it to any reports, who knows? And if it didn't did it survive.
I wonder if some of Halliburton's unaccounted for billions went to the candy and flowers which never materialized for the Iraqis to throw.
George Johnston |
some of it undoubtedly went for the stuff they ARE throwing.
The Department of Peace could begin by encouraging Oprah to make Three Cups of Tea a part of her book club.
Mike Gravel has decided to go on in his quixotic quest for President as a Libertarian.
American Conservative endorses Obama?
It's an interesting read; I'd encourage everyone to take a look.
It addresses how, since the 80s, Reagan ushered in a faux-conservatism focused mostly on business.
Well, sure. Every conservatoid knows that the best way to deal with a violent situation is to inject more violence into it. Duh!
Is there any video after Hillary hugged the little girl at Tuzla? Something that might show her leisurely strolling to the car. Or did the press all turn off their cameras at that point?
I saw footage of her strolling somewhere on the tarmac, surrounded by quite a few people. Don't know if it was before or after the little girl.
Everyone was smiling and no one looked like there was any danger.
American Conservative endorses Obama?
http://www.amconmag.com/2008/200...24/ article.html
Mike
Douglas Kmiec has endorsed him as well.
Is there any video after Hillary hugged the little girl at Tuzla?
Yes, first she kills Vince Foster, then busts a move with Sinbad.
one of the iraqis asked jennings a good question - basically, if riaq bombed the pentagon would the americans think this was an attack on america or an attack on bush? and even jennings agreed americans would consider it an attack on americans.
Mike Gravel has decided to go on in his quixotic quest for President as a Libertarian.
plantsman
Mike Gravel/Ron Paul '08!
Mortars and rockets have struck the Green Zone and other U.S. positions repeatedly since Sunday, with U.S. officials reporting 12 strikes Tuesday.
And we can't shoot back.
Coming soon: a one mile "security buffer" around the green zone which will be emptied of Iraqis and flattened. We will claim that it is being done at the behest of the Iraqi government. KBR will perform the demo work.
Or we could call it The War For Isroil...
Hillary Clinton- "I was sleep deprived, and simply misspoke..."
How can we expect her to be ready for that 3AM phone call?
Well, sure. Every conservatoid knows that the best way to deal with a violent situation is to inject more violence into it. Duh!
B1 Bummer
Where's my Hanzo sword?
Mike Gravel has decided to go on in his quixotic quest for President as a Libertarian.
plantsman
Kewl, that means I'll have someone to vote for if Obama is knocked out by the DLC and the MSM.
The Iraqis had a big war just a few years ago. They remembered it. They were understandably a little resentful when the U.S. rigged up the current disaster. Because what did they do to us? Not a damn thing. But we've done a shitload to them.
I seem to remember footage of interviews "on the street" with ordinary Iraqis in the weeks running up to the invasion, and they were all saying the same thing, "why are you talking about war with us? what have we done to you? leave us alone!"
fourlegsgood, stingrayed | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 12:05 pm | # [kill]
Yeah, but they're biased.
Okay, thanks in part to the prodding of the folks here, I'm off to the ballgame. Orioles vs. Cardinals (my two favorite teams) in Jupiter.
Partly sunny, breezy, and 70°F. in America's Glans™. I think I can dig it. 
Catch you patriotz laterz.
I think it's time the Iraqis thanked white people for all we've done for them!
/patbuchanan
Mike Gravel has decided to go on in his quixotic quest for President as a Libertarian.
plantsman
that's odd, since he's not.
CBS last night
jac | 03.26.08 - 12:05 pm | #
Thank you, jac. That was the evidence I was looking for.
Kewl, that means I'll have someone to vote for if Obama is knocked out by the DLC and the MSM.
Ô¿Ô | 03.26.08 - 12:08 pm | #
there's always nader.
always.
No one could have anticipated that Iraqis would not welcome the destruction of their country in the name of freedom. Haven't they read 1984?
Coming soon: a one mile "security buffer" around the green zone which will be emptied of Iraqis and flattened.
a moat! just like they're proposing down in arizona to stop those scary brown mexicans...
digby:
City officials in Yuma, in south-western Arizona, have come up with a scheme to create a "security channel" along the nearby border by reviving a derelict two-mile stretch of the Colorado river.
"The moats that I've seen circled the castle and allowed you to protect yourself, and that's kind of what we're looking at here," Yuma county sheriff Ralph Ogden told the Associated Press. The scheme would see engineers dig out a two-mile stretch of a 180-hectare (440-acre) wetland known as Hunters Hole.
Yes, first she kills Vince Foster, then busts a move with Sinbad.
Get the lingo correct.
She pops a cap in Foster's noggin (two to the noggin, yo), and then shakes her moneymaker with Sinbad.
well, i'm sure they were the decade of something.
dirk gently,sociopathetic | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 12:02 pm | #
This.
Qiana, baybee!
moats dont protect you from mortar or artillary fire.
Sheeties.
sheetz
U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. Kevin Bergner...said the Iraqi government had appealed to Iran to help restore calm in Basra.
And John McCain demands that Hillary apologize to Petraeus for saying the surge wouldn't work.
City officials in Yuma, in south-western Arizona, have come up with a scheme to create a "security channel" along the nearby border by reviving a derelict two-mile stretch of the Colorado river.
er, won't that take, ya know, water? Where are they gonna get that?
Yeah, buddy. We took the white man's burden and dropped it on their heads.
Hoot!
I will restate what was on the end of a dead thread from below.
***************
FYI, my, err, "cousin" got hisself a WGG style vacation from Eschaton on Monday night. Seems he was so frikken pissed off after watching Frontline that he spoke as if he might become a potential John Hinkley someday in the future. Took the Webmaster less than a minute to delete his comment and ban him.
He is, of course Bad.
Dead threaded agin. Sheeeyit!
Winston Churchill created Iraq. It's not a real place. Who cares if we carve it up again?
Security channels filled with water used to be called moats.
Didn't work all that well.
Hillary Clinton- "After I settled the troubles in Northern Ireland, I dodged that gunfire, arrested Radovan Karadzic, tracked down Bin Laden, and had him hog - tied in that cave of his, before Kim Jong - il and a squad of assassins knocked me unconscious and freed him!"
"Everything Hillary Clinton says is true!"- New Hillary Clinton Spokesman, James Fry
What finally got to me was the racism and the fact that you think everyone is anti-homosexual.
03.26.08 - 12:01 pm | # [kill]
That there's any tolerance at all of Incog's routine at this late date is the biggest mystery of the blogosphere, for my money.
'
Last I saw him, he was making fun of Moonbootica's weight. But there are still people who'll talk about how cute 'n' funny he is. It's absolutely bizarre. And irritating, natch, since it undoes my killfiling to have people quoting him all the time.
Sheesh.
well, i'm sure they were the decade of something.
------------------
Disco Duuuuuuck!
Took the Webmaster less than a minute to delete his comment and ban him.
A minute he probably would rather have spent doing something else....
Disco Duuuuuuck!
My god, it's alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?
v=97RjuC9YeXg
Some people like George Packer have done a fair job of trying to show the point of view of at least those Iraqis who looked to us for a better life and then were betrayed. (Just saw his play, named, coincidentally, "Betrayed.") But Packer's got a lot to atone for himself, so this may be just an extended exercise in his handwringing about his early support for the war. And it says nothing really about the Iraqis who just wish a war weren't being fought in their front yard, endangering them every day.
Winston Churchill created Iraq. It's not a real place. Who cares if we carve it up again?
Newton Minnow | 03.26.08 - 12:13 pm | #
?
Iraq is the oldest know civilization.
Thats because the MSM and Republican government don't consider the collateral damage associated with the war on terr-rr to be important.
Obviously, these Iraqis just aren't big-picture guys.
Maybe Charlie would like to follow up by interviewing the CEP of Haliburton.
The U.S. invasion of Iraq is already one of the supreme crimes of the 21st century. And most AMericans don't realize it.
Do you understand now how this sort of thing could have happened to the German people during the reign of National Socialism?
I disagree about Peter Jennings while I think Glenn is on target with Rose.
Jennings was a real expert on the Middle East, and was married to a woman from Lebanon (his second marriage). I think is might be viewed as more than significant that the interviews from Iraqis appeared on his program at all during the media hysteria leading up to the war.
I had a conversation with him in the seventies at a convention where he was a speaker. He split his time talking to me and the man sitting to his right but for two hours we talked about the middle east. He was extremely knowledgeable and presented his views modestly. I tend to be very cynical about media people but was most impressed with his expertise.
I've included a couple of excerpts below from a man who knew him very well, Charles Glass.
"ABC then assigned him to Beirut as its Chief Middle East Correspondent. There, he set up the network's first bureau in the Arab world. His reputation for fairness and hard work had preceded him, and he was an immediate favourite with the Lebanese women, politicians and journalists."
(snip)
"His influence at ABC meant that it consistently devoted more air time to international stories than its competitors at CBS and NBC."
http://www.independent.co.uk/new...ngs-
502007.html
Perhaps Greenwald was too quick on the trigger concerning Jennings.
"your cum stains sustain me"-Michael O'Hanlon to Ken Pollack
I'll just add that there are many things left