It's a three dog night
lovepat |
12.06.08 - 7:18 pm | #
MY BUTT SMELLS!
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Are you sure it isn't your breath! Bah ha ha ha....shit eater??
Uncle Fester Lurks |
12.06.08 - 7:18 pm | #
It's about 12 degrees out...the fuck if I'm gonna go outside and play.
AndyMN |
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12.06.08 - 7:18 pm | #
Simels said he was going out drinking with some 'negro communists'.
mark |
12.06.08 - 7:18 pm | #
What is this snow you speak of?
bill buckner |
12.06.08 - 7:18 pm | #
It's about 12 degrees out...the fuck if I'm gonna go outside and play.
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Yeah, the wind is colder then Cindy McCain.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
12.06.08 - 7:19 pm | #
beautiful Hecate- some of my double knockouts are still in bloom.
lovepat |
12.06.08 - 7:20 pm | #
'negro communists'.
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Conservatives with black face.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
12.06.08 - 7:20 pm | #
'negro communists'.
His veteran buddies from the Abraham Lincoln Brigade...
bill buckner |
12.06.08 - 7:21 pm | #
Atrios! Late night music video! I beseech you!
SteveNS
W
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12.06.08 - 7:22 pm | #
SteveNS
That guy looks better than a lot of chicks with that hair.
(you can take that in whatever way amuses you.)
DWD-S☮S |
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12.06.08 - 7:22 pm | #
some of my double knockouts are still in bloom.
Bring me a rose in the wintertime
When it's hard to find.
Bring me a rose in the wintertime,
I've got roses on my mine.
A rose is sweet most anytime, and yet,
Bring me a rose in the rose in the wintertime
And how easy we forget.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.06.08 - 7:22 pm | #
(you can take that in whatever way amuses you.)
DWD
His veteran buddies from the Abraham Lincoln Brigade...
bill buckner
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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12.06.08 - 7:23 pm | #
And my verbena still has blossoms- south side of the house... bit still...
lovepat |
12.06.08 - 7:24 pm | #
SteveNS,
Did you check out his website?
AndyMN |
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12.06.08 - 7:24 pm | #
Atrios, let's check the weather here.
Winter Storm Warning
Until 1 AM Sunday In effect for Mason, Lake, Oceana, Newaygo, Muskegon, Ottawa
White Out Conditions
Snow and blowing snow will continue to create hazardous driving with white out conditions at times across West Michigan into Sunday.
Wind chill values will be in the single numbers and teens for the rest of the weekend.
Tonight the heavy snow will diminish to snow showers with additional accumulations possible. Lows will be in the mid-upper teens with wind chills in the single numbers.
So, no, I am not going out to play.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.06.08 - 7:26 pm | #
My republican sister sent me a video about a new Ford plant that was built in Brazil which uses technically advanced robotic for assembly. They dub the plant as the most efficient plant in the world.
Ford reps go on to blame the UAW for not allowing the plant to be built in the US.
Of course the video doesn't say how much the Brazilian workers are making in Brazil compared to union workers in America or how many regular *human* jobs were eliminated due to the robots. Republikkkans always blame the workers and the unions for everything...bastards!
Uncle Fester Lurks |
12.06.08 - 7:26 pm | #
It's hard to be humble when you're a Florida Gator.
mofo |
12.06.08 - 7:26 pm | #
Pop melodies mingle with massive electric guitars, driving beats, and the gleam of techno-wizardry
I'm afraid.
Hold me.
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12.06.08 - 7:26 pm | #
Did you check out his website?
No rockstar should be without a Gretsch Sparkle Jet guitar.
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 7:27 pm | #
It's hard to be humble when you're a Florida Gator.
Yeah, we can tell. Fucking lizards.
pseudonymous in nc |
12.06.08 - 7:28 pm | #
BRB, have to take care of my washing. (I am one hell of a catch for a woman. I do all of the grocery shopping, cooking, and clean up.
I also do my own laundry and clean like a crazy person.)
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12.06.08 - 7:28 pm | #
Of course the video doesn't say how much the Brazilian workers are making in Brazil compared to union workers in America or how many regular *human* jobs were eliminated due to the robots.
Did it mention how much of the bailout money they're planning to spend on that plant?
Because it was a pretty good chunk.
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12.06.08 - 7:28 pm | #
Did it mention how much of the bailout money they're planning to spend on that plant?
Because it was a pretty good chunk.
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Bailout money to spend in Brazil???????
GeorgeM |
12.06.08 - 7:30 pm | #
Jesus, what a fucking moron...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news...ov=ap&
type=lgns
NEW YORK (AP)—It started as a typical Friday night at the Latin Quarter: exclusive guest list, $200 bottles of Moet champagne and well-dressed clientele lining up to pay a $30 cover charge to party at the swank Manhattan club.
Then a few very, very important people rolled up in a black Cadillac Escalade: New York Giant stars Plaxico Burress and Antonio Pierce. The two sauntered inside, heading for the VIP section amid the pulsing merengue and hip-hop, Burress with a loaded, illegal gun tucked into the waistband of his track pants...
Around 1:50 a.m., as Burress fumbled with the glass in his hand, the .40-caliber Glock slipped down his leg, and as he grabbed at it, he accidentally pulled the trigger and shot himself in the thigh. Witnesses reported hearing a “pop” as his legs started to quiver and the pistol dropped from his pant leg to the floor.
“Take me to a hospital,” Burress said, according to investigators.
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 7:31 pm | #
Obama is a centrist. But at this point, even a centrist is a great thing.
What he said.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.06.08 - 7:31 pm | #
Intervention, bah!
Admit it, lovepat... that's great music AND imagery.
DWD-S☮S, by the by, neither am i (illusion), but going from hard right to soft right to hard right to soft right, is not right
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12.06.08 - 7:36 pm | #
he General Motors Corporation (GM) has decided to invest 1 billion U.S. dollars in Brazil to expand business there, local media reported Tuesday.
The investment was part of a U.S. bailout package and would be used to upgrade car production lines before 2012, said Djame Adila, a GM's official in charge of the markets in Brazil and other member-countries of the South American Common Market which also groups Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and Venezuela.
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12.06.08 - 7:42 pm | #
Well, you're never gonna forget who he is now, are ya?
AndyMN
Who *who* is?
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12.06.08 - 7:43 pm | #
Obama is a centrist. But at this point, even a centrist is a great thing.
Indeed. Under the current dire economic circumstances, I think that competence, leadership, and the ability to get things done is more important than ideological purity.
Thank fucking god McCain lost. I think that his "campaign suspension" back in October gave a pretty good preview of just what an unmitigated disaster a McCain presidency would have been.
Forget using the word depression. 2009 would be the start of economic black hole if it were under McCain.
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 7:43 pm | #
I think that his "campaign suspension" back in October gave a pretty
good preview of just what an unmitigated disaster a McCain presidency
would have been.
It was a campaign turning point and for good reason: it was definitely a preview of his tactical and strategic "thought" processes...
People in western PA should stay home tonight. The roads are treacherous!
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.06.08 - 7:45 pm | #
what if the gov gave us peeps a tax credit to buy domestically produced energy efficient cars? WE'D get new cars, the plants would be incentive-ised to to produce energy efficient ones...win, win, right?
brewing liberally |
12.06.08 - 7:46 pm | #
I also think that robots probably don't buy too many cars.
what if the gov gave us peeps a tax credit to buy domestically produced energy efficient cars?
That would violate all sorts of international agreements-- NAFTA, to begin with, but lots of other "free trade" agreements. That doesn't mean it's a bad idea; it just means you have to first nullify those agreements.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 7:48 pm | #
WE'D get new cars, the plants would be incentive-ised to to produce energy efficient ones...win, win, right?
Tax credits are only for buying things like Hummers, you wacky leftist kook.
SteveNS |
12.06.08 - 7:48 pm | #
The weather outside is frightful -- supposed to keep snowing until Wednesday or Thursday when it will be mixed with rain -- until it freezes again -- good week to stay inside -- of course I have a dentist's appointment on Wednesday ...
Prior Aelred |
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12.06.08 - 7:48 pm | #
I think Brazilian workers should be paid a decent wage.
OK, but are they going to use my (imaginary, future) money to pay a relatively good living wage to people in Brazil, while closing plants in this country and paying themselves a kabillion dollars in bonuses?
I'm sure a big part of having plants in Brazil is saving money on labor. Fine when all is well (maybe), but not on my nickel, I don't think.
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12.06.08 - 7:50 pm | #
heh, we needed a truck for our business, I knew we'd get a credit for a "big one", but I just couldn't do it. We bought a lil chevy colorado...and it's just fine. big enough, and not a huge gas guzzler.
brewing liberally |
12.06.08 - 7:50 pm | #
I suggest Congress simply order that the entire federal vehicle fleet be replaced with electric or electric hybrids, by (say) 2011. Let car companies, domestic and foreign bid on the various contracts... the demand would save the industry---even if GM or whatever goes out of business, the other companies would buy up plants and employ the workers to meet the new demand.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 7:51 pm | #
I never go to the bar without my glock.
Shared Humanity |
12.06.08 - 7:51 pm | #
The weather outside is frightful -- supposed to keep snowing until Wednesday or Thursday when it will be mixed with rain -- until it freezes again -- good week to stay inside -- of course I have a dentist's appointment on Wednesday ...
I wish it would snow here.
unequal_monica_nyc |
12.06.08 - 7:51 pm | #
I never go to the bar without my glock.
Shared Humanity
Of course not -- that would be crazy! What if you needed to shoot out a light or open a door without touching it?
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12.06.08 - 7:53 pm | #
Hope this is true. If it is, there is hope in the climate change crisis:
Well, it's true that land use decisions affect global warming, and sensibly using farm land as a carbon sink can help avoid cataclysmic climate change. But there are no magic bullets.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 7:53 pm | #
Don't want to bust your bubble but few of us on this thread care about the Steelers or the Giants.
Shared Humanity
We can't help that.
Gomez |
12.06.08 - 7:53 pm | #
very sad to see in today's paper, that despite increases in useage, Amtrak in Vermont might be cut. too bad they don't connect the largest city with the most efficient route.
brewing liberally |
12.06.08 - 7:53 pm | #
V - understood, but the "brotherhood of workers knows no boundaries" -- the Wobblies would not have fought NAFTA, they would have organized the Mexican workers!
If the Big Three go under, they domino effect is going to be devastating (as we may well see ...)
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12.06.08 - 7:53 pm | #
Thanks, noblejoanie.
These days it can be hard to find a nugget of hope, so they're always appreciated.
SteveNS |
12.06.08 - 7:54 pm | #
I think Brazilian workers should be paid a decent wage.
How many is a brazillion?
Gomez |
12.06.08 - 7:54 pm | #
the demand would save the industry
heh. All electric in 2 years.
For a Luddite, you have a lot of faith in technological miracles.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 7:54 pm | #
But there are no magic bullets.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 7:53 pm | #
You, apparently, have never seen my glock.
Shared Humanity |
12.06.08 - 7:54 pm | #
If the Big Three go under, they domino effect is going to be devastating
But how did the ancients bio-char vegetation without the presence of oxygen?
lovepat |
12.06.08 - 7:55 pm | #
V - understood, but the "brotherhood of workers knows no boundaries" -- the Wobblies would not have fought NAFTA, they would have organized the Mexican workers!
I think our unions are going to have to revitalize themselves before they're able to help others much. Particularly when it's set up as a crooked zero-sum game the way it is.
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12.06.08 - 7:55 pm | #
I'm not a Luddite.
I've read your posts for years.
You're a Luddite.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 7:56 pm | #
If you'd stop wearing the zirconium-studded bra out, you wouldn't need the gat.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 7:57 pm | #
Tell Atrios fuck the Supertrain.
We need the Mon-Fayette Expressway here.
Gomez |
12.06.08 - 7:57 pm | #
I like the supertrain!!!
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
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12.06.08 - 7:58 pm | #
Bunch of goddamned juicers NEED to be suspended. Or is our no tolerance policy conditional?
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Thats funny Duane! 300+ lbs Pat Williams on roids!!! It must be for his gut. They were taking the *water pills* to lose water weight.
Pretty hard to suspend a player when the banned ingredient isn't even listed on the product AND the NFL failed to inform the NFLPA, the FDA or team physicians that the banned ingredient was in the product.
This is a non story. The NFL is just trying to look good after congress held those steroid hearings.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
12.06.08 - 7:58 pm | #
I've supported all sorts of new technologies.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 7:58 pm | #
Don't want to bust your bubble but few of us on this thread care about the Steelers or the Giants.
Shared Humanity
Hmmm, Dino didn't care much for the Stones.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
12.06.08 - 7:59 pm | #
Define "Luddite".
Ludd·ite
Pronunciation: ˈlə-ˌdīt
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps from Ned Ludd, 18th century Leicestershire workman who destroyed a knitting frame
Date: 1811
: one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying laborsaving machinery as a protest ; broadly : one who is opposed to especially technological change
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 7:59 pm | #
I've supported all sorts of new technologies.
Hovercraft powered by electric eels.
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 8:00 pm | #
Pretty hard to suspend a player when the banned ingredient isn't even listed on the product AND the NFL failed to inform the NFLPA, the FDA or team physicians that the banned ingredient was in the product.
This is a non story. The NFL is just trying to look good after congress held those steroid hearings.
Uncle Fester Lurks
But said substance was NOT on the NFL's list of approved drugs.
DuaneV, Wittol |
12.06.08 - 8:00 pm | #
But there are no magic bullets.
The Warren Commission begs to differ.
But don't let that keep anyone from distracting themselves with this.
unequal_monica_nyc |
12.06.08 - 8:00 pm | #
OK, I'm out. Back if the insomnia strikes.
Have fun, batties!
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12.06.08 - 8:01 pm | #
American unions are not faultless (I thought my initial comment implied that) but the anti-union policies that predominate in this country hurt all workers -- liberals believe that when everyone is better off, everyone is better off ...
Prior Aelred |
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12.06.08 - 8:01 pm | #
michael crichton was a techno luddite
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
12.06.08 - 8:01 pm | #
....and it is nearly Christmas! (hint, hint)
Shared Humanity |
12.06.08 - 8:02 pm | #
I wish it would snow here.
unequal_monica_nyc |
[glares in your direction]
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.06.08 - 8:02 pm | #
I support research into all sorts of renewables, including tidal, solar, wind and geothermal. I've argued right here on this blog for the quick implementation of a continental DC power grid. I support super fast electric trains. For starters. Hardly anti-technology.
But again, whatever the dictionary definition, the actual Luddites were against concentration of ownership, mostly. The technology they destroyed was merely part of their beef. They personally would have used the technology, if they could own and control it.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 8:03 pm | #
The Cowboys are gonna kick YOUR ass..
DuaneV, Wittol |
12.06.08 - 8:04 pm | #
The Steelers of the 70's never would think of using illegal steroids.
Because they weren't readily available.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 8:05 pm | #
Surely you jest.
billy b
I can will it to occur.
Gomez |
12.06.08 - 8:05 pm | #
Best long lived holiday gift
"CHIA PET"
lovepat |
12.06.08 - 8:05 pm | #
Because they weren't readily available.
billy b
Because they weren't illegal.
Gomez |
12.06.08 - 8:05 pm | #
In The Things Aren't So Bad or You Are A Dumb Ass Department:
Senator Mitch McConnell recently noted that while the Detroit Auto Industry is failing, Kentuckys' Toyota plant is doing great.
Now isn't that statement almost the same as saying "While the US troops are struggling in Afghanistan, the Taliban are growing stronger."?
Uncle Fester Lurks |
12.06.08 - 8:05 pm | #
Adam Cohen suggested rather than eliminating jobs, other employees could work for less or fewer hours.
We did both at our company over the last few years. Saved a few jobs in a small firm.
Wannstedt the Wuss Wanker.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 8:06 pm | #
The Cowboys are gonna kick YOUR ass..
DuaneV, Wittol
The Cowboys are going to kick you out of teh playoffs.
Gomez |
12.06.08 - 8:06 pm | #
noblejoanie | 12.06.08 - 8:03 pm | #
That is pretty much what the local UAW workers accepted to end the strike here in Three Rivers-- a VERY conservative place (the last time the MI 6th returned a Democrat to Congress was 1932 -- not a banner year for Republicans), the locals were 100% behind the union, which eventually accepted pay cuts of almost 50% to keep their health insurance
Now they are back to building axles for Hummers ...
Prior Aelred |
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12.06.08 - 8:06 pm | #
Just like Flacco couldn't beat out Wannstedt.
Wannstedt the Wuss Wanker.
billy b
Proud owner of a 9-3 record and a Sun Bowl bid against Oregon State who doesn't have a chance.
Gomez |
12.06.08 - 8:07 pm | #
I'd rather spend the night talking to some Luddites then listen to Gomez and Duane jabber endlessly about the Steelers and Giants.
Don't make me get all anarcho-primitivist on you!
Shared Humanity |
12.06.08 - 8:07 pm | #
The Steelers of the 70's never would think of using illegal steroids.
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Nah...they just popped speed like many NFL players did back then.
Uncle Fester Lurks |
12.06.08 - 8:07 pm | #
And, fwiw, I use all sorts of gadgets and computers in my work, and even here at home. Just a couple of months ago I took a week-long class to learn how to use some new software. Nothing big, but hardly anti-technology. I just don't get a boner over the latest iPhone, or whatever.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 8:07 pm | #
Hey guys.......everyone's penis is big, okay?
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.06.08 - 8:07 pm | #
Senator Mitch McConnell recently noted that while the Detroit Auto Industry is failing, Kentuckys' Toyota plant is doing great.
I'd like to put ol' Bitch the Mitch thru a god damn Dake Press.
Stupid redneck puss-pie.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 8:08 pm | #
UNCLE FESTER! I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S MY BUTT! IT COULD BE MY BREATH THOUGH... SINCE MY HEAD IS IN MY ASS!
BUSH WAS RIGHT! |
12.06.08 - 8:08 pm | #
The Iggles are going to win the Super Bowl, sometime after they fire Any Reid.
cosmic tumbler |
12.06.08 - 8:08 pm | #
Hey guys.......everyone's penis is big, okay?
You can see me from there?
unequal_monica_nyc |
12.06.08 - 8:08 pm | #
I'd rather spend the night talking to some Luddites then listen to Gomez and Duane jabber endlessly about the Steelers and Giants.
Hey guys.......everyone's penis is big, okay?
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars
Stay out of men's rooms!
cosmic tumbler |
12.06.08 - 8:09 pm | #
Why do Nordamericanos call it "football" when you almost always throw or carry the ball?
Prior Aelred |
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12.06.08 - 8:10 pm | #
Proud owner of a 9-3 record and a Sun Bowl bid against Oregon State who doesn't have a chance.
heh.
Wannstedt's been a clown at every level he's tried. A lot like Bootsy boy.
The Punt-thers are about as over-rated a team as exists.
Sorry.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 8:10 pm | #
There are only 46 vistors? Back in ought-3, we always had 3,500 visitors on a Saturday night at 5:05 PST.
This place sucks.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 8:10 pm | #
CHICAGO — Workers who got three days' notice that their factory was shutting its doors have occupied the building and say they won't go home without assurances they'll get severance and vacation pay.
About 250 union workers occupied the Republic Windows and Doors plant in shifts Saturday while union leaders outside criticized a Wall Street bailout they say is leaving laborers behind.
Leah Fried, an organizer with the United Electrical Workers, said the Chicago-based vinyl window manufacturer failed to give 60 days' notice required by law before shutting down.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.06.08 - 8:11 pm | #
The Punt-thers are about as over-rated a team as exists.
We saw "Synecdoche, New York" this afternoon. Maybe one of the best films ever, especially if you are over 40.
cosmic tumbler, over 60 |
12.06.08 - 8:12 pm | #
Fucking Alabama just fucked up the BCS.
Gomez |
12.06.08 - 8:13 pm | #
The Luddites, incidentally, were not anti-technology.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 7:55 pm | # [kill]
Thank you.
Drives me nuts that everyone sees 'em as people who hate technology. Just goes to show that the winners write the history books.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 8:14 pm | #
We saw "Synecdoche, New York" this afternoon
I've been wanting to see that.
unequal_monica_nyc |
12.06.08 - 8:14 pm | #
Shady McCoy might go No. 1 overall.
Damn good running back. Ain't going #1 tho.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 8:14 pm | #
Hecate -- maybe we can get the Pinkerton's to break it up -- maybe using machine guns the way they used to -- will it take open warfare in the streets of this nation for people to realize that things are getting serious?
Prior Aelred |
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12.06.08 - 8:14 pm | #
Oklahoma v. Florida for the Championship right now.
About 250 union workers occupied the Republic Windows and Doors
plant in shifts Saturday while union leaders outside criticized a Wall
Street bailout they say is leaving laborers behind.
We may see more of this over the next 10 years. Class warfare can get messy.
Shared Humanity |
12.06.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Thank you.
Drives me nuts that everyone sees 'em as people who hate /i>
There's history and there's the popular usage of the word.
Two different things entirely.
40 years ago "gay" had an entirely different meaning.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 8:17 pm | #
These women wanted to be engineers:
Genevičve Bergeron (born 196, civil engineering student.
Hélčne Colgan (born 1966), mechanical engineering student.
Nathalie Croteau (born 1966), mechanical engineering student.
Barbara Daigneault (born 1967), mechanical engineering student.
Anne-Marie Edward (born 196, chemical engineering student.
Maud Haviernick (born 1960), materials engineering student.
Maryse Laganičre (born 1964), budget clerk in the École Polytechnique’s finance department.
Maryse Leclair (born 1966), materials engineering student.
Anne-Marie Lemay (born 1967), mechanical engineering student.
Sonia Pelletier (born 1961), mechanical engineering student.
Michčle Richard (born 196, materials engineering student.
Annie St-Arneault (born 1966), mechanical engineering student.
Annie Turcotte (born 1969), materials engineering student.
Barbara Klucznik-Widajewicz (born 195, nursing student.
Well, Phila is a really hard act to follow, but I'm tired and struggling with a cold and I want to lie in bed, so this is a badly placed drive-by blogwhore.
There's history and there's the popular usage of the word.
Sure.
But so far as I'm a Luddite (if at all), it's in the historical sense and not the modern sense.
I worry about what technology is used for, how it's employed, and who owns it. But I happily employ it or use it, if I think it's appropriate.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 8:21 pm | #
maybe we can get the Pinkerton's to break it up
They will use homeland security this time.
Yup.
Tax workers to hire the scabs to break up the strikes. That saves the pariarchs money.
Who says they haven't learned anything?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.06.08 - 8:21 pm | #
or the "North American Command"
lovepat |
12.06.08 - 8:22 pm | #
and we sat on our thumbs and didn't shut down the airports.
Oh, but the State Dept told the Thais that wasn't the proper way to dissent...
Not who I expected.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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12.06.08 - 8:23 pm | #
As women gain economic power, they naturally desire more attractive men -- especially when ovulating -- which means that men have to invest more in their appearance, which explains "the explosion in the male grooming industry." You can't argue with facts!
Don't you all wish you were lesbians, like me?
unequal_monica_nyc |
12.06.08 - 8:23 pm | #
I found the closing down the airport thing interesting. Tourism must be a huge component of the economy.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 8:23 pm | #
There's history and there's the popular usage of the word.
Two different things entirely.
Not really. There's a reason the particular interpretation of "Luddite" stuck, and it has a lot to do with the history, it seems to me. I don't think it's an accident that the popular usage pretty much dovetails with the portrayal of the Luddites by the textile industry and Parliament.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 8:23 pm | #
6:00 wakeup call to head another 1400 miles south tomorrow morning.
There will be penguins.
Gromit |
12.06.08 - 8:24 pm | #
Obama picks Shinseki to head the V.A.
One person who was right and shitcanned by the Bush admin over Iraq? And clearly cares about vets? Good call.
The Luddites were a social movement of British textile artisans in the early nineteenth century who protested—often by destroying mechanized looms—against the changes produced by the Industrial Revolution, which they felt threatened their livelihood.
This English historical movement has to be seen in its context of the harsh economic climate due to the Napoleonic Wars, and the degrading working conditions in the new textile factories; but since then, the term Luddite has been used derisively to describe anyone opposed to technological progress and technological change.
madou |
12.06.08 - 8:26 pm | #
Pffft, an accident, a coincidence. Nonviolence never works.
Except when it does.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.06.08 - 8:27 pm | #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Ludd
The Luddite movement, which began in 1811, took its name from the fictive Ned Ludd.
madou |
12.06.08 - 8:27 pm | #
Maybe. What are the evolutionary advantages, again?
We're whores for the sheer joy of it, which frees our brains to pursue higher orders of thinking.
unequal_monica_nyc |
12.06.08 - 8:27 pm | #
We want penguin pics!
I hear and will comply. There is a professional photographer on this trip and I plan to pester him constantly.
Gromit |
12.06.08 - 8:27 pm | #
Forget using the word depression. 2009 would be the start of economic black hole if it were under McCain.
Richard
Kinda like Mordor after Frodo tossed in the ring.Okay he didn't actually toss it but you get the idea.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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12.06.08 - 8:27 pm | #
Love you, Moonbats.
Going to go watch the snow make love to the Earth.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.06.08 - 8:27 pm | #
For a short time the Luddite movement was so strong that it clashed in battles with the British Army. Measures taken by the government included a mass trial at York in 1812 that resulted in many executions and penal transportation.
madou |
12.06.08 - 8:28 pm | #
Maybe. What are the evolutionary advantages, again?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
you don't have to brazillian-wax your back ...
focus, ready to go |
12.06.08 - 8:28 pm | #
Forget the penguin pics. I want a penguin!
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
12.06.08 - 8:28 pm | #
There will be penguins.
Gromit |
Can you get me season tickets?
Sorry, hope you are having fun!
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.06.08 - 8:29 pm | #
"Machine breaking" (industrial sabotage) was subsequently made a capital crime by the Frame Breaking Act(Lord Byron, one of the few prominent defenders of the Luddites, famously spoke out against this legislation), and 17 men were executed after an 1813 trial in York
madou |
12.06.08 - 8:30 pm | #
against the changes produced by the Industrial Revolution, which they felt threatened their livelihood
i think it was just the particular machines, which they thought would obviate their jobs. i don't think they were protesting the entire industrial revolution - the concept of 'the industrial revolution' would be a bit anachronistic for the time
Nonviolence works as well as violence -- with fewer casualties (based on historical experience & definition of terms)
It does get tricky if "resist not evil" means you can't defend your loved ones from an armed lunatic -- but then it gets expanded & anyone the govt doesn't like at the moment is "worse than Hitler", etc.
But even Churchill said that, "Jaw, jaw is better than war, war."
Prior Aelred |
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12.06.08 - 8:30 pm | #
Oh billy b, I am so happy you are back. I am very sorry that I slighted you and I don't want you to beat me up. I mean you are so much tougher than me on these innertubes. I am afraid of you.
simels is not a bigger twat than you. You are a much bigger twat than simels. You may be the biggest twat that has ever been.
Is that okay or must I grovel more. I will if you threaten me again.
Lurker |
12.06.08 - 8:32 pm | #
Nonviolence never works. Except when it does.
Who are you going to believe: me, or the Danes, Indians, Chileans, South Africans, Filipinos, Czechs, Poles, Russians, Argentinians...?
A script co-written by Sir Sean Connery for a James Bond film that was never made has sold at auction for $68,400 (GBP46,850).
The screenplay for Warhead was penned by former 007 actor Connery, Len Deighton, and Kevin McClory in 1976, and would have seen the spy battling robot sharks to prevent them planting nuclear bombs in sewers underneath New York.
The original script, which was never made into a film due to legal problems, was put up for sale as part of the Christie's Pop Culture: Entertainment Memorabilia auction in London on Friday and was expected to fetch around $2,900 (GBP2,000).
Other items in the sale included a fur-trimmed stole worn by Hollywood star Marilyn Monroe, which sold for $61,400 (GBP42,050).
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 8:33 pm | #
so, if you raise the word to the level of a philosophy, it kind of departs from the original group of protesters
They wrote quite a bit about what they were doing, and I think it's fair to call what they espoused a philosophy. It wasn't simply radical action....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 8:33 pm | #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Pen...ich,_Derbyshire
However, the movement can also be seen as part of a rising tide of English working-class discontent in the early 19th century (see also, for example, the Pentrich Rising of 1817, which was a general uprising, but led by an unemployed Nottingham stockinger, and probable ex-Luddite, Jeremiah Brandreth). An agricultural variant of Luddism, centering on the breaking of threshing machines, was crucial to the widespread Swing Riots of 1830 in southern and eastern England.
madou |
12.06.08 - 8:33 pm | #
Luddites opposed the "dark satanic mills" making themselves and their families starve to death -- instead they got a bullet, a hangman's noose or a free ticket to Australia (& thus created a country with lots of "attitude" -- law of unintended consequences strikes again).
Prior Aelred |
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12.06.08 - 8:34 pm | #
For example: nuclear power is problematic not just because of the environmental issues, but also because as it actually is produced, it requires centralization of capital in very hands, significant government subsidies that are arguably unfair, a top-down administration of power distribution, etc. Does pointing that out make me anti-technology? Then so be it.
But I'm all for government subsidies to help construct a broadly owned distributed power network of hi-tech renewable generators...
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 8:36 pm | #
In his work on English history, The Making of the English Working Class, E. P. Thompson presented an alternative view of Luddite history. He argues that Luddites were not opposed to new technology in itself, but rather to the abolition of set prices and therefore also to the introduction of the free market.
madou |
12.06.08 - 8:37 pm | #
Please billy b, I beg you, for all that is holy please forgive me. I will from this day forth proclaim that you are the biggest twat of all time.
Lurker |
12.06.08 - 8:39 pm | #
The guilty may fear, but no vengeance he aims
At [the] honest man's life or Estate
His wrath is entirely confined to wide frames
And to those that old prices abate
These Engines of mischief were sentenced to die
By unanimous vote of the Trade
And Ludd who can all opposition defy
Was the grand Executioner made
Let the wise and the great lend their aid and advice
Nor e'er their assistance withdraw
Till full fashioned work at the old fashioned price
Is established by Custom and Law
Then the Trade when this arduous contest is o'er
Shall raise in full splendour its head
And colting and cutting and squaring no more
Shall deprive honest workmen of bread.
tacitus voltage |
12.06.08 - 8:41 pm | #
Kinda like Mordor after Frodo tossed in the ring.Okay he didn't actually toss it but you get the idea.
Lumpenprolitariot | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 8:27 pm |
So, who's Gollum in this case?
Buckeye .... |
12.06.08 - 8:41 pm | #
Erin, did you see the sunset tonight?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 8:48 pm | #
Buckeye ....
doing well, thanks
and what a cute picture of you and your sis
ErinPDX |
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12.06.08 - 8:49 pm | #
What's wrong with billy b? I said I was sorry and gave him a compliment.
Maybe the twat has problems. I have only associated with little twats in my live. I can only imagine what big twats go through.
Lurker |
12.06.08 - 8:49 pm | #
did you see the sunset tonight?
yes!
pink cloud puffs against the dark blue
ErinPDX |
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12.06.08 - 8:50 pm | #
If Hecate or any other witches are here right now, please cast a spell of some nefarious sort on the guy who heads my dept who passed me over to promote a guy less qualified and less competent, and who doesn't work as many hours.
Likewise, during the rapid expansion of capitalism over the past several centuries, the tradition of a pre-capitalist "moral economy" was used to justify popular action against unscrupulous merchants and traders. For example, the poor regularly rioted against grain merchants who raised their prices in years of dearth in an attempt to reassert the concept of the just price. The Marxist historian E. P. Thompson emphasized the continuing force of this tradition in his pioneering article on the "Moral Economy of the English Crowd in the Eighteenth Century"
madou |
12.06.08 - 8:51 pm | #
The screenplay for Warhead was penned by former 007 actor Connery, Len Deighton, and Kevin McClory in 1976, and would have seen the spy battling robot sharks to prevent them planting nuclear bombs in sewers underneath New York.
Was this a rewrite of one of the treatments McClory did with Fleming? I thought there were three.
Ditto. Time to put your resume and other stuff together and get lateral offers from other firms.
Echidne |
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12.06.08 - 8:52 pm | #
I think the biggest twat of all, the twat of the mountain if you will, has anger management problems.
Atroits, it's time for an intervention. Will someone talk with billy b. His anger will be the death of him unless we help.
Lurker |
12.06.08 - 8:53 pm | #
robot sharks?
and here I thought Roger Moore was the only one who understood what a crock 007 was...
nick carraway |
12.06.08 - 8:53 pm | #
Dont drink and fumble
BedBug |
12.06.08 - 8:54 pm | #
pink cloud puffs against the dark blue
ErinPDX | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 8:50 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
From where we were, Belmont and 40th, it looked like a rain of fire. Very dark red-orange, with long tendrils hanging down.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 8:54 pm | #
Good evening, folks. Wassup?
We bought our Christmas tree today. It's in the living room, nekkid, while it "adjusts" to its new environment. Will decorate tomorrow.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 8:55 pm | #
Sorry to hear that, TEBB.
Ditto. Time to put your resume and other stuff together and get lateral offers from other firms.
Echidne
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thanks everybody. unfortunately, the place where i work is the only place in town hiring for my line of work - the others are laying people off. the only hope is if one of the guys at that level fails and gets fired.
however, i need to move beyond my anger as i know there are people out there with real tragedies in their lives and this setback pales in comparison.
despite the need to move beyond my anger, i really wouldn't mind if the guy totalled his car or something....
TEBB |
12.06.08 - 8:55 pm | #
Buttalicka's having a little bit of a pity party.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 8:55 pm | #
doing well, thanks
and what a cute picture of you and your sis
ErinPDX | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 8:49 pm |
Heh. I saw that (and a couple of others) and called my sister, who got huffy and pointed out that they made sure I had padding behind me, and they were doing this because I couldn't sit up and they want me to be able to see them.
A couple of hundred photos later I notice that they've plopped me on top of a snow man, so they can get my picture. My sister's reaction: you didn't fall off, you don't remember it, get over it.
doing well, thanks
and what a cute picture of you and your sis
heh.
I read 'sis' a little differently at first glance...
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 8:57 pm | #
however, i need to move beyond my anger as i know there are people out there with real tragedies in their lives and this setback pales in comparison.
despite the need to move beyond my anger, i really wouldn't mind if the guy totalled his car or something....
Anger is good, initially. Just let it go through you after a while. Then put together a short presentation of how you'd be perfect for the next promotion (and the last one, too) and let him know.
Echidne |
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12.06.08 - 8:57 pm | #
Patriarchy sucks.
Indeed it does, although I have to say the worst boss I ever had was a woman. She was totally psycho and incompetent, was sleeping with the guy who promoted her, so there you have it.
This is why I am self-employed.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 8:57 pm | #
If Hecate or any other witches are here right now, please cast a spell of some nefarious sort on the guy who heads my dept who passed me over to promote a guy less qualified and less competent, and who doesn't work as many hours.
Patriarchy sucks.
TEBB | 12.06.08 - 8:50 pm | #
Forget about Hecate TEBB. Talk to billy b. He will take care of your dept. head up close and personal.
Lurker |
12.06.08 - 8:58 pm | #
No one gives a shit.
billy b |
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12.06.08 - 9:00 pm | #
Btw, the job is delivering food on a scooter (not my own -- dood bought three 2009 Honda Ruckus scoots, and it's pretty much a sure thang... may not start for another month, but he's hiring four riders, and I'm pretty sure I will be one).
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.06.08 - 9:00 pm | #
TEBB. That sucks. Well here's what you do. Contact some friends of your father and tell them about the situation, they will buy the company and you can cash in your stock options after they are pumped up then just quit. After that look into some other line of work where you can use your father's connections to build some sort of sports franchise stadium.
This is how people pull themselves up from their bootstraps! Don't forget it.
Oh, and if you didn't choice the right parents at birth, well that's your fault we all have choices to make. Some of us choice to have strong, powerful, rich and amoral people as our parents others don't.
sp ock o the plumber |
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12.06.08 - 9:00 pm | #
Was this a rewrite of one of the treatments McClory did with Fleming? I thought there were three.
"Warhead" was the first attempt to remake 'Thunderball", the story that McClory owned the screen rights to.
McClory of course succeeded with attempt #2, "Never Say Never Again".
Evidently, he tried to remake it again in the '90's, but that was shot down by legal action.
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 9:00 pm | #
Thank you thank you thank you to everyone for your lovely birthday wishes
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:01 pm | #
the only hope is if one of the guys at that level fails and gets fired.
Now begins the campaign to undermine the boss.
I just love hearing about bureaucratic wars.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 9:02 pm | #
Oh, and if you didn't choice the right parents at birth, well that's your fault we all have choices to make. Some of us choice to have strong, powerful, rich and amoral people as our parents others don't.
sp ock o the plumber
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THANKS for making me laugh, spocko! i call that group "the lucky sperm club."
TEBB |
12.06.08 - 9:03 pm | #
Jeffraham Prestonian:
You got the Aldi job?
If you don't like it, Borders on West End is hiring right now "for all positions." We were just there today.
I've always fantasized about working at a book store. Don't ask me why. It just sounds really romantic to me.
I know, I'm an idiot.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:03 pm | #
TEBB, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
Yes, I make less than many of male colleagues who are less experienced. It does not please me.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:03 pm | #
Shit, I bail on the thread and suddenly everyone is talking about Luddites.
Shared Humanity |
12.06.08 - 9:04 pm | #
Happy birthday, Sallyh!
I don't say it often enough, but I'm in awe of you.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:04 pm | #
{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}
So happy to hear you'll be working!
(Sends hugs and good wishes)
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:04 pm | #
Phila, I'm blushing. There's really not much to be in awe of, but I thank you for your kindness.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:05 pm | #
Another song for Echidne. Unfortunately, whoever made the video is even stupider than the average YouTube user.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:05 pm | #
Did everyone see Bill Ayers' column in the New York Times today?
Sucks they put it in the fucking SATURDAY paper, which no one reads.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:06 pm | #
Borders may go under,
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
12.06.08 - 9:06 pm | #
NTodd, why yes, yes, I am
But tonight, I shall forget the patriarchal structure of the academy and concentrate on Christmas cookie baking.
And Cops.
I spent my birthday taking Monsieur to the airport (he's traveling to Chennai, India on business), and taking Mlle to urgent care for her sinus infection.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:06 pm | #
wonder if they still have me on file at Movie Madness (12 yrs)
ErinPDX |
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12.06.08 - 9:07 pm | #
I'm tempted to head to Best Buy and pick up Drive In Movie Classics Volume II.
It has "They Saved Hitler's Brain" on it!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:08 pm | #
Borders may go under,
Oooh really? I didn't know.
Maybe I should apply for a job real quick and make a little money before they sink.
Actually, my fantasy is more like working at a small independent bookstore, probably one that doesn't have a lot of customers, so I can get paid to read all day.
Does anyone know where you can get one of those thermometer-style graphics that people use for fundraising? I was thinking of putting one on my blog in order to track our country's progress towards socialist tyranny under the Obama regime.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:08 pm | #
I spent my birthday taking Monsieur to the airport (he's traveling to Chennai, India on business), and taking Mlle to urgent care for her sinus infection.
And now you will spend the rest taking me to Chuck-E-Cheese?
Hey that old school move The Net is on HBO, the one in which the internet takes over Sandra Bullocks' life. It's kinda quaint.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:09 pm | #
NToddler, we can go to Chuck E Cheese.
Just don't make me kiss the fucking rodent.
I'll see you in the Ball Crawl.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:09 pm | #
okay, a big kiss to each and everyone one of you who is not a troll, MWAHH! i always feel better when i drop in here.
and an extra kiss for sallyh for her birthday, and for keeping on keeping on through what has been a tough 12 months.
i'm heading out to dinner with a friend who loves me dearly and lets me play with her kids every weekend.
I spent my birthday taking Monsieur to the airport (he's traveling to Chennai, India on business), and taking Mlle to urgent care for her sinus infection.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.06.08 - 9:06 pm | # [kill]
You did better than me. I spent mine with a sinus infection, writing up eBay descriptions in my basement.
Plus, the wife forgot it was my b-day. Fortunately, you and a couple of exes remembered.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:10 pm | #
Phila, I don't take chances with Monsieur. I advertise early and often.
Not so much this year, though.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:11 pm | #
I guess I wouldn't be shocked. I was there twice this week. Empty.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.06.08 - 9:09 pm | # [kill]
I have some memory of the guy who runs it sneering at the idea of paying a living wage. That idea was "romantic," according to him.
I guess I wouldn't be shocked. I was there twice this week. Empty.
Well the one in Nashville was packed today. I bought two books and had to wait in a long line.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:13 pm | #
Phila, I will say I'm grateful it was Mlle who had the sinus infection and not me.
She and her SO took me to lunch at Langer's Deli, an institution Auntie GWPDA is well acquainted with. I did have a fabulous pastrami on rye with coleslaw and Russian dressing on it.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:13 pm | #
Phila, I don't take chances with Monsieur. I advertise early and often.
Not so much this year, though.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.06.08 - 9:11 pm | # [kill]
She didn't actually forget my birthday so much as forget what day of the week it was. And God knows she's entitled...she's had a rough few weeks.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:13 pm | #
NToddler, how about you play in the Ball Crawl and Ericka and I will swap Stupid Things Guys Do stories?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:14 pm | #
Borders stock is currently 67 cents. It was over $11 earlier in the year...
Actually, my fantasy is more like working at a small independent bookstore, probably one that doesn't have a lot of customers, so I can get paid to read all day.
Southern Beale | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:08 pm |
Sadly, that doesn't happen, even with no or few customers.
If for some reason I had to go back to working in a bookstore, I'd like it to be a large enough one that I could stay in the back and not deal with customers.
Buckeye .... |
12.06.08 - 9:14 pm | #
I have some memory of the guy who runs it sneering at the idea of paying a living wage. That idea was "romantic," according to him.
I'm not surprised. I used to write for Barnes&Noble.com, and I remember looking them up and learning that their CEO, Steve Riggio, was a big Democratic supporter.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:15 pm | #
go you, as it were
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
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12.06.08 - 9:17 pm | #
She and her SO took me to lunch at Langer's Deli, an institution Auntie GWPDA is well acquainted with. I did have a fabulous pastrami on rye with coleslaw and Russian dressing on it.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.06.08 - 9:13 pm | # [kill]
A nice mix of the mundane and the miraculous...
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:17 pm | #
"This happened kinda in Poland, ya know..."
The republicans lauded the Poles forever for this. Had it happened in Murika it would have been a different story altogether. Probably would have brought out the tanks at the time.
TG |
12.06.08 - 9:17 pm | #
Fred Astaire introduced “The Way You Look Tonight” in the RKO musical Swing Time, the sixth of ten films he would star in with Ginger Rogers. For the film, Dorothy Fields and Jerome Kern wrote one of the most popular film scores of all time, with “The Way You Look Tonight,” beating out “I’ve Got You Under My Skin” and “Pennies from Heaven” to win the 1936 Academy Award for best song.
Phila: Does anyone know where you can get one of those thermometer-style graphics that people use for fundraising? I was thinking of putting one on my blog in order to track our country's progress towards socialist tyranny under the Obama regime.
I can make one for you, and update it weekly, for a very low fee!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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12.06.08 - 9:22 pm | #
{{{Uncle B}}}
Hope all is well by you
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:22 pm | #
Hugs to all the birthday Atriots .... Dec. 6 is a very lucky day ...
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:23 pm | #
Phila, for Mlle, it was the matzoh ball soup she had at Langer's. The waitress instructed her that she was going to have it.
Mlle turned to her BF and said, the help is really rude here. He's from the Upper East Side of Manhattan and assured her that rude service is an essential part of the NY deli experience.
The Soup Nazi did not come out of nowhere.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:25 pm | #
I can make one for you, and update it weekly, for a very low fee!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:22 pm | # [kill]
The whole point of it is that it's never going to be updated.
I've been collecting insane predictions about the End Times under Obama...I thought I'd put them in a graphic form, so people could watch them not come true.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:26 pm | #
Actually, my fantasy is more like working at a small independent bookstore, probably one that doesn't have a lot of customers, so I can get paid to read all day.
Uncle B, well, there was the heavenly pastrami sandwich to go with sending Monsieur off to India for 10 days (I am NOT happy about this, and not just because it's my birthday), and Mlle was so sick she had to be taken to urgent care and the pharmacy after to have her scrips filled.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:26 pm | #
"rude service is an essential part of the NY deli experience."
that was not my experience last summer
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
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12.06.08 - 9:27 pm | #
{{{Flory}}}
Please tell me these greetings did not arrive from the Admirals' Club Lounge at DFW
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:27 pm | #
Phila: The whole point of it is that it's never going to be updated.
Phila, for Mlle, it was the matzoh ball soup she had at Langer's. The waitress instructed her that she was going to have it.
Quite right, too. I've been going the caldo verde route, myself. But soup is definitely indicated.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:28 pm | #
Graduate school!
rootless-e,
They PAY you to attemd Graduate School??!!!! SIGN ME UP!!!!
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:28 pm | #
I've been collecting insane predictions about the End Times under Obama...I thought I'd put them in a graphic form, so people could watch them not come true.
Phila
I've been collecting appraisals from economists about the state of the economy. Six months ago they said, hey, everything's fine, Canada won't go into recession. Now, they're saying, oh, it's only a technical recession, we'll pop out of it in a couple of months...
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 9:28 pm | #
Uncle B, I had lunch with a friend in Queens one time at a deli. I placed my order with our waitress, who had to have been at least 70. She said, you're not having that, you're having this.
My friend, a native of Jamaica Queens, said, just go with it.
It actually was really good.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:29 pm | #
Anyway, my browsing activity is taxing the rendering engine... I'll come back in a bit (30-45 mins) when it's done, eh?
bbl
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12.06.08 - 9:29 pm | #
They PAY you to attemd Graduate School??!!!! SIGN ME UP!!!!
Southern Beale | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:28 pm | #
Gotta do science or engineering, as far as I know. Best job I ever had was 10K/year to read books.
rootless-e, mysterious |
12.06.08 - 9:32 pm | #
that would be 'scrumptious' I believe.....
flory |
12.06.08 - 9:32 pm | #
"My friend, a native of Jamaica Queens, said, just go with it.|"
I spent my week in lower manhattan - and the locals were about 100% wonderful - except for the idiot on the subway who hip checked me and then more or less ran when I returned the favor.
Philadelphia addytood - got to love it.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
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12.06.08 - 9:32 pm | #
shinseki appointment - smart.
Yeah I think so too.
Heres what's weird .. two days ago checking my sitemeter I started getting quite a few hits from people doing Google searches for "Shinseki, Rumsfeld, White." I wondered why all of a sudden people would be doing Google searches for those terms ... Now I know...
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:32 pm | #
Anyway, I suspect people celebrate birthdays because they die, not in spite of it. So lighten the fuck up already.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:33 pm | #
"fuck all the birthdays..."
especially mine. If i never have a b day party again I'll be thrilled.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
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12.06.08 - 9:34 pm | #
especially mine. If i never have a b day party again I'll be thrilled.
They PAY you to attemd Graduate School??!!!! SIGN ME UP!!!!
I was making $27,000 a year as a graduate student in Canada 20 years ago, thanks to a scholarship from the Canadian government and a rather generous teaching assistantship ($20 + an hour to TA first year physics labs).
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 9:35 pm | #
"So lighten the fuck up already."
yeah I know
I love other peoples parties. I just don't want one.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
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12.06.08 - 9:36 pm | #
I want a toilet bowl with a moustache behind it and a beard in front of it.
Echidne | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:33 pm | #
Why do you want Tom Friedman and Charlie Christs "girlfriend" in your bathroom?
rootless-e, mysterious |
12.06.08 - 9:36 pm | #
Wow. Sonny von Bulow just died. 28 years in a coma.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:36 pm | #
Sent the first treatment, Phila.
Echidne | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:30 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I love other peoples parties. I just don't want one.
All the people at this party
They've got a lot of style
They've got stamps of many countries
They've got passport smiles
Some are friendly
Some are cutting
Some are watching it from the wings
Some are standing in the centre
Giving to get something
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:37 pm | #
My first year in grad school I got $4200 dollars.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 12.06.08 - 9:36 pm | #
My first year, I got nearly $20k - and in those days it was untaxed. Felt like I was getting away with the scam of all time.
rootless-e, mysterious |
12.06.08 - 9:37 pm | #
I love other peoples parties. I just don't want one.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:36 pm | # [kill]
Same here. I'm willing to go out to dinner with the wife, but that's where it ends.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:38 pm | #
The Cowboys are going to kick you out of teh playoffs.
Gomez
the auto companies should work with the wall street execs. the auto companies should make cars, the wall st. execs should make license plates.
rootless-e, mysterious |
12.06.08 - 9:41 pm | #
"I was making $27,000 a year as a graduate student in Canada 20 years ago, "
That settles it, I'm moving to Canada.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:42 pm | #
I'd love to go to a masquerade. A real one where people actually can't be recognized.
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I once went to one (not in costume), and there was a gal there I'd just started...er...dating, but I didn't know it. She'd keep passing in front of me and staring into my eyes, but not saying anything. Didn't figure out who she was for about ten minutes. Kind of creepy and thrilling.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:42 pm | #
I'm reading Krugman's blog. I don't understand much of it, but he's talking a lot about the Depression. This worries me.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 9:43 pm | #
when I was in graduate school I got to go into debt
Oh, I had loans too. And a part-time job. And a half-assistantship to go along with my full assistantship. Even in SC twenty years ago, $4K didn't go all that far.
Darwinanna Darwin |
12.06.08 - 9:44 pm | #
That settles it, I'm moving to Canada.
Land of milk in bags and honey.
They gave me an estate and a hot chick as a immigration present.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 9:44 pm | #
""Compare to AIG executive compensation and weep."
I had an AIG 401(b) or some damn thing. Every quarter, I would see in the statements managers from one fund or another "contracting" with one or another "consulting company" to help manage their portfolio, doubtlessly causing another chip taken out of the fees that I paid quarterly for the privilege of sinking my hard-earned money into that pit. It was kind of a churning, handing off favors to their university buddies. I often wondered why the portfolio managers themselves couldn't manage their portfolios.
montanaheadcold |
12.06.08 - 9:45 pm | #
i never understood the point of taxing student stipends.
yeah it was good times but i owe more on my education than the ex does on the house i used to own
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
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12.06.08 - 9:45 pm | #
Leibniz, I received the princely sum of $6150.
BTW, that was more than a bit weird. But at least your work here is done.
At least it wasn't Ann Coulter fucking a goat
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:45 pm | #
Sallyh, Happy Birthday and what DWD said last night.
All my best to you.
ErinPDX |
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12.06.08 - 9:46 pm | #
when I was in graduate school I got to go into debt
We did that, too. Although since Monsieur's graduate education was at USC, we were considerably more in debt over his.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
12.06.08 - 9:47 pm | #
I'm astonished. The scholarship I had from 1986-90 basically hasn't increased in value since then. It was $15,600 when I had it. Now it's $17,500. That's fucking depressing.
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 9:48 pm | #
Could someone tell me again how Osama got all the fighter jets to stand down on 9/11? I keep forgetting how he did that.
Son Of Flubber |
12.06.08 - 9:48 pm | #
i think we should have deathdays.
We do. They're called funerals.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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12.06.08 - 9:48 pm | #
i never understood the point of taxing student stipends.
i didn't go into debt in grad school, but I didn't have kids and did live, uh, frugally. Had a library, internet, and lots of free time though.
rootless-e, mysterious |
12.06.08 - 9:48 pm | #
I'm reading Krugman's blog. I don't understand much of it, but he's talking a lot about the Depression. This worries me.
He sees the solution in government spending (fiscal policy), because neither firms nor consumers want to spend anything right now, but unless we get some spending that will just cause the recession to get worse. But fiscal policy takes time to arrange (real projects must be planned and so on), and I think he's trying to tell people in power to hurry up. Monetary policy is very fast but it's not working in this situation.
Echidne |
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12.06.08 - 9:49 pm | #
be planned and so on), and I think he's trying to tell people in power to hurry up. Monetary policy is very fast but it's not working in this situation.
Echidne | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 9:49 pm | #
The fundamental and inescapable problem is that the Bush regime cannot be trusted to spend the money and it's 50 days until Obama takes the oath, and the congress is too weak to supervise bush.
rootless-e, mysterious |
12.06.08 - 9:50 pm | #
You know what astonishes me about that page? It's in Canada red. Somehow the Conservatives missed it... when they took power they changed all the government web sites from Canada red to tory blue. Red, you see, is not just the colour of the Canadian flag, but also the colour of the Liberal party. Can't have that!
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 9:51 pm | #
The fundamental and inescapable problem is that the Bush regime cannot be trusted to spend the money and it's 50 days until Obama takes the oath, and the congress is too weak to supervise bush.
Yes, but the transition team could work on this and contact state governments so that they, too, could set up a list of projects.
Echidne |
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12.06.08 - 9:51 pm | #
Oh, I understand what he's saying, Echidne. Well, sorta. But his analysis and arguments are obscure. Not wrong, just beyond my easy reading.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 9:52 pm | #
I'd love to go to a masquerade. A real one where people actually can't be recognized.
Sounds like a scene from a bad Stanley Kubrick film.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Could someone tell me again how Osama got all the fighter jets to stand down on 9/11? I keep forgetting how he did that
Oh, that was magic!
DuaneV, Luddite |
12.06.08 - 9:52 pm | #
"Red, you see, is not just the colour of the Canadian flag, but also the colour of the Liberal party. Can't have that!"
It's the NDP for me.
I was born in Canada of American parents ... I guess I could assume dual citizenship and get aboard the renaissance of the New Democratic Party, which I see happening as the backwash of our depression slops over the northern border.
montanaheadcold |
12.06.08 - 9:53 pm | #
it's pretty clear that the transition team is talking to the states. press is too stupid to pick up the story since it is not happening in Georgetown.
Yes, but the transition team could work on this and contact state governments so that they, too, could set up a list of projects.
It was my impression that that is what is happening.
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 9:54 pm | #
In this situation, the economy might have reached a perfect balance, at a cost of high unemployment.
jmk |
12.06.08 - 9:55 pm | #
I guess I could assume dual citizenship and get aboard the renaissance of the New Democratic Party, which I see happening as the backwash of our depression slops over the northern border.
montanaheadcold
well, we'll see. But on the other point, I actually think the r/depression will be worse here than down there, because so much of the economy has been tied to resource depletion, especially oil. Alberta is going to collapse, I think.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 9:56 pm | #
News
UK news
Food safety
Safety fears prompt recall of Irish pork
Amanda Diamond
The Observer, Sunday December 7 2008
Article history
Irish pork products on sale since September 2008 were recalled last night following fears that pigs had been given feed contaminated by harmful toxins.
The Food Standards Agency of Ireland revealed pork products on several farms across the country were found to have up to 200 times more dioxins than the accepted safe limit.
The recall affects products sold across Ireland and the UK since 1 September. Consumers and retailers are now being encouraged to destroy all Irish pork and bacon products bought since that date.
The FSAI admitted suspicions over contamination were first raised last Monday, as a result of routine testing of pigs, when restrictions were placed on some pig farms. But the presence of polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) was only confirmed yesterday by tests from a UK laboratory.
The contamination has been traced back to an ingredient in an animal feed from one supplier, which was used at 47 different farms.
They include 37 beef farms, but it has not yet been necessary to withdraw the beef products.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 9:58 pm | #
"Alberta is going to collapse, I think.
Moe Szyslak,"
That Tar Sands extraction is pretty brutal. Alberta oil tycoons have been pretty fat, saucy, and anti-federal of late. Maybe they need to be taken down a notch or too. Least that's my reading from just south of the Province's border.
montanaheadcold |
12.06.08 - 9:58 pm | #
Margaret Atwood's Booker prize-winning The Blind Assassin is likewise set in the Great Depression, centering on a privileged socialite's love affair with a Marxist revolutionary.
jmk |
12.06.08 - 9:58 pm | #
So did SCOTUS issue an opinion on the Obama birth certificate issue?
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 9:59 pm | #
All the tar sands projects have been put on hold. Wages are plummeting in Alberta, and the water's disappearing with the glaciers.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer |
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12.06.08 - 10:00 pm | #
Shirley by Charlotte Brontë, a social novel set against the backdrop of the Luddite riots in the Yorkshire textile industry in 1811–1812.
madou |
12.06.08 - 10:01 pm | #
Margaret Atwood's Booker prize-winning The Blind Assassin is likewise set in the Great Depression, centering on a privileged socialite's love affair with a Marxist revolutionary.
I actually own that book, it's in my bookcase and I haven't read it yet.
I love Margaret Atwood ... I keep forgetting I need to read that book. I have a really bad habit of buying books and then not reading them (witness my trip to Borders today in which I bought two books ...)
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:01 pm | #
Southern Beale
Heres what's weird .. two days ago checking my sitemeter I started getting quite a few hits from people doing Google searches for "Shinseki, Rumsfeld, White." I wondered why all of a sudden people would be doing Google searches for those terms ... Now I know
I dont' get the "White" part of that search.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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12.06.08 - 10:02 pm | #
"All the tar sands projects have been put on hold. Wages are plummeting in Alberta, and the water's disappearing with the glaciers.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 10:00 pm | # "
Disappearing water and plummeting wages are not wonderful. I can remember growing up on the border and listening to the CBC proclaim what a wonderful and prolific source of petroleum the tar sands would be. That was a long, long time ago. Then recently, I read something about the terrible ecological damage wrought by the same projects that were extolled back then.
montanaheadcold |
12.06.08 - 10:03 pm | #
So did SCOTUS issue an opinion on the Obama birth certificate issue?
Southern Beale
They appear to have denied cert (as expected).
Telegram Sam |
12.06.08 - 10:03 pm | #
Frank Black covered Tom Waits' "Black Rider". Bitchin version too. I've just discovered this, and I wanted to share.
I'm just that kind of guy.
Noam Sane |
12.06.08 - 10:03 pm | #
This looks like a good movie coming soon to a theater near you:
Creation, Paul Bettany as Charles Darwin ...
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:05 pm | #
Hello from sunny Nelson, NZ - I hope you are all well. I just sent an email to BillO - the Vince Vaughn/Reese Witherspoon film "Four Christmases" is called "Four Holidays" here. I hope his head explodes.
WalterNeff |
12.06.08 - 10:06 pm | #
Well, all in all I feel like shit this day. Still cannot eat. I have an allergic reaction to a medication that is causing both legs and feet to swell uncomfortably. The doctor recommended some over the counter antihistimine but it dint work. Went back for Benedryl and am feeling icky from its effects.
(So if I seem testy or lost in space, please try to understand.)
I hope everyone else is fine.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.06.08 - 10:06 pm | #
This Dolly Parton video is interesting. Her breasts grew rather late in life.
Interesting. His character in "Master and Commander" was a quasi-Darwin character.
Richard |
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12.06.08 - 10:07 pm | #
Lost in space wouldn't be so bad, would it?
Happy Birthday, Sallyh and anyone else I'm missing.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.06.08 - 10:08 pm | #
White fought with Rumsfeld, publicly, and agreed with Shinseki.
unequal_monica_nyc |
12.06.08 - 10:08 pm | #
I dont' get the "White" part of that search.
My post from last May was "How To Screw Up A War" -- White agreed with Shinseki that we needed more troops for Iraq and he was fired, too ...
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:08 pm | #
HoneyBear! I will be in your fair city in January.
Deacon Blues |
12.06.08 - 10:11 pm | #
They appear to have denied cert (as expected).
Does that mean they're all shunning Clarence Thomas and not inviting him to their Christmas parties?
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:11 pm | #
Shoulda seen the debate I had with Gonzo Gomez..
DuaneV, Luddite |
12.06.08 - 10:12 pm | #
Say wha? Is it Sallyh's birfday???
Deacon Blues |
12.06.08 - 10:12 pm | #
Echidne,
One of my fantasy jobs - if there were such a thing - would be the chance to produce Dolly Parton on an album.
She really has a lovely voice and when she is not overproduced, she makes some incredible music (at least to my ears)
Coat of Many Colors and I Will Always Love You come to mind.
IMHO she has been overproduced and packaged to the point where her music is simply not real (at least to me) any more.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.06.08 - 10:12 pm | #
I didn't know that. It would seem odd to want to do that. I guess it was a business move.
She's an interesting character .. widely believed to be a lesbian, with an "open" marriage to husband Carl Dean (not to be confused with the mayor of Nashville, named Karl Dean ...)
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:13 pm | #
JP, what was the job offer? Great news.
virgotex ☮ |
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12.06.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Don't tell anyone, but I agree with DWD.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.06.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Watching the 20 yo Roy Orbison special on PBS, with Elvis Costello, Springsteen, Jeff Lynn, Jackson Browne, KD Lang, Jennifer Warnes, Bonnie Raitt, JD Souther, Tom Waits.
Baked cookies all fucking day.
I'm starting my cooking blog, god damn it, and there will be pictures of everything.
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.06.08 - 10:13 pm | #
They appear to have denied cert (as expected).
Telegram Sam
Fer us nonlawyers - what does that mean? TYIA
Deacon Blues |
12.06.08 - 10:14 pm | #
Don't tell anyone, but I agree with DWD.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars
I mighta did something stupid. Like tell him to put his $ where his mouth is.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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12.06.08 - 10:14 pm | #
Dolly Parton is an amazing songwriter. I'm not sure she gets credit for that, but she's making money hand over fist for songs recorded by others (Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" among them)...
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:15 pm | #
Fer us nonlawyers - what does that mean? TYIA
Deacon Blues
Writ of Certiorari. A decision by the Supreme Court to hear an appeal from a lower court
DuaneV, Luddite |
12.06.08 - 10:15 pm | #
Writ of Certiorari. A decision by the Supreme Court to hear an appeal from a lower court
DuaneV, Luddite
Meaning the Supreme's aren't going to hear the case.
Deacon Blues |
12.06.08 - 10:16 pm | #
So did SCOTUS issue an opinion on the Obama birth certificate issue?
Southern Beale
They appear to have denied cert (as expected).
Telegram Sam
I believe that means "Stop wasting the court's time and taxpayers' money."
Terry C - Awaiting 1/20/09 |
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12.06.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Jeez, this thread isn't dead yet?
flory |
12.06.08 - 10:17 pm | #
I mighta did something stupid. Like tell him to put his $ where his mouth is.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
It was pretty funny. I mean, he didn't have a leg to stand on, because his team already lost to the Giants...
DuaneV, Luddite |
12.06.08 - 10:17 pm | #
"I Will Always Love You" among them)...
I like Dolly's version better, and I never fail to cry.
Please remember me here guys,.... the other Steelers fan. Love to all.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.06.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Dolly Parton is an amazing songwriter. I'm not sure she gets credit for that, but she's making money hand over fist for songs recorded by others (Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" among them)...
Southern Beale | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 10:15 pm | #
Aw DWD I am so sorry
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
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12.06.08 - 10:18 pm | #
(Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" among them)...
I like Dolly's version better.
Whitney sounds like she's hog calling.
Terry C - Awaiting 1/20/09 |
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12.06.08 - 10:18 pm | #
Never pay attention to the Luddite.
Shared Humanity |
12.06.08 - 10:18 pm | #
In my life I have seen four "Big Name" performers face the audience with themselves and a guitar. All three have been among the best shows I have ever seen.
The four: Harry Chapin, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Rush, and John Gorka.
It is an ability and talent that I truly envy. To make such amazing music with just you and your guitar would make me feel like a king.
I would like to see Dolly Parton do the same thing. I think she could as she seems to have bundles of talent. (Though the "Country" act wears a mite thin . . . .
DWD-S☮S |
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12.06.08 - 10:19 pm | #
Exactamundo.
DuaneV, Luddite
Heh. Check the kerning on the decision.
Deacon Blues |
12.06.08 - 10:19 pm | #
I like Dolly's version better.
Whitney sounds like she's hog calling.
Terry C - Awaiting
Whitney said she didn't even like the song and had to be convinced to record it. Dumbass.
Years ago I interviewed David Foster at his estate in Malibu ... the place was incredible. They called it, "the house that Whitney built." Should have called it the house that DOLLY built ...
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:19 pm | #
Never pay attention to the Luddite.
Shared Humanity
John Gorka is also a very nice person.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Yeacher |
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12.06.08 - 10:20 pm | #
I love Dolly Parton. If she's a lesbian, that's great. Actually, I don't care on which side of the fence she sits, as long as she keeps writing fine music. And actually, I still wouldn't care who she does. I'd like to go to a river rafting party with her, though. We could keep the entire guest list afloat.
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.06.08 - 10:20 pm | #
John Gorka is a "big name" performer?
I mean, I've heard of him but I didn't think anyone else had ...
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:20 pm | #
Since we're talking music, has everyone heard that Dixie Chick Natalie Maines is being sued for libel?
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:22 pm | #
John Gorka is a "big name" performer?
I mean, I've heard of him but I didn't think anyone else had ...
Southern Beale
Well, maybe that is just me again. I have all of his albums and he is someone I always listen to when I get the chance.
But in my eyes, he is among the best.
DWD-S☮S |
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12.06.08 - 10:22 pm | #
I'd like to go to a river rafting party with her, though. We could keep the entire guest list afloat.
I love Dolly too. She's very highly respected in Nashville. Someone with a lot of heart who does a lot of good for the community.
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:23 pm | #
Oh, it's dead.
NTodd, Wintery
Chill, we can't always be exciting for you, can we?
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars |
12.06.08 - 10:23 pm | #
Well, being "among the best" rarely means one is a "big name performer" these days! Some of my favorite artists are people you've probably never heard of ... Martin Sexton, Marcus Hummon (writer) ...
Southern Beale |
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12.06.08 - 10:26 pm | #
Whitney does not sound like she's hog calling. She has a beautiful voice, and she did that song justice in her particular genre of music, which was/is(?) (don't know if she's performing any more) pop.
I prefer Linda Ronstadt's version of "I Will Always Love You" to Dolly's, but I love that Dolly wrote that great song.
Vicki, Cookie Cutter |
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12.06.08 - 10:27 pm | #