I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

thirst?


GravatarGood morning!


GravatarHave a good time


GravatarSmash!


GravatarAin't no way I'm going to that link. I've got something to do in a few hours.


Gravatarmccainstream media


GravatarOK, where's the liquor cabinet?


GravatarThe Anasazi, like the Maya, didn't "disappear." Lifestyles changed, is all.
Moe Szyslak, cold


the only reason we know so much about them is they built on the worst peice of real estate in the United States.


Gravatarthe only reason we know so much about them is they built on the worst peice of real estate in the United States.
Falstaff


Well, it wasn't back then.


GravatarDoughBob LoadPants book slammed by FT

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ 9c96d6...00779fd2ac.html


GravatarFoser just notes that in obsessing over HRC's tax returns, they never mention that McCain has also not released his.


Gravatarmccainstream media
jr

I'm going to steal that or change it to mclamestream media.


Gravatarfrom below: I still think Dave Schuster shold have been fired for his "pimping" comment. Slimeball.


GravatarMolly, sounds as if I woke up to business as usual.


GravatarI love the smell of super poly-grip in the morning, smells like....(plop)

Dammit, there goef mah teef again!


GravatarThe media is going to focus on the battle taking place right now. McCain is an afterthought.


GravatarOK, where's the liquor cabinet?

I'll give you whatever's left in mine.  (Searches contents)


GravatarHeh. The last "travelling, no postings" i remember from Atrios had something like 5 new posts/hour fr a while. Fasten seat belts.....

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GravatarBy sending "Kristen" to DC, Spitzer committed a Federal Crime by violating the Mann Act, It's raely prosecuted, but there it is.
plantsman


Is Spitzer's action what the legislation was designed to curb?

Is Kristen of age to be responsible for her own actions and not be under the control of Spitzer?

Is this a partisan persecution/prosecution?


GravatarU.S. Not Planning To Attack Iran, Says U.S. Iran War Czar

USS STENNIS, PERSIAN GULF—U.S. Iran War Czar Gen. Glenn Jacobs, the general director of the U.S. Center of the Invasion of Iran, announced Monday that neither the United States government nor the 30,000 troops aligned along Iran's border have any plans to invade the "dangerous and belligerent" Middle Eastern country. "We're simply taking every precautionary measure we can to maintain the peace between the two countries, such as making sure we have enough cruise missiles to carry out that peace, taking comprehensive aerial photographs of Iranian bombing targets, and calculating how many lives would be lost if we did invade Iran, which we're not going to do," Jacobs said while studying a video simulation of what a wide-scale assault on Iran would look like.


GravatarI'm always "mostly gone" but that doesn't prevent me from commenting here.


GravatarGail Collins is shocked into noting how truly bad Chimpy's NYC speech was

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/1.../ 15collins.html


GravatarFrom below...

I've said it before, our guys and gals need media training, and what's more, writers that know how to get a point across without "sounding whiny". How to use humor to good effect.

Spocko is available!














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GravatarThe MSM believes that "Gotcha' journalism" generates the largest audiences and the largest ad revenue.

Ergo: they will play up the Obama "guilt-by-association" thingy for all it's worth.

I'm sure CNN and MSNBC will have numerous clips of this on for at least a week.

McStains associations with Haggee and Parsley, not so much.


GravatarYeah, sallyh. Oh, well.

I'm so sorry you won't be coming, partly because I found out another Atriot shares your not-all-that-common surname. Weird.


GravatarOK... not sure about all that white space...


Gravatarhttp://tomwatson.typepad.com/tom_watson/

Top 3 posts are interesting, first being about the economy and the election, then a sharp joke from David Paterson, soon to be NY's new governor, and then some early reactions to the Spitzer fall.


GravatarIt's like looking at thousands of small towns across the southern and western US that have been abandoned over the past few decades and concluding that Americans have "disappeared."


GravatarU.S. Not Planning To Attack Iran, Says U.S. Iran War Czar



GravatarMolly, I know.  The things you learn on the Intertubes


GravatarIIRC, the Mann Act was mostly intended to prosecute child prostitution and "white slavery", and to prevent taking women from an area with a high age of consent to one with a lower age (for marriage purposes, then).

Rarely used, then or now, for women considered adult, unless as you say, political. (And of course never used in re men, so far as i know).

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GravatarMe, I'm just resting up before another fun week on Wall Street. Whee!!!


GravatarBut the news media -- McCain's "base" -- don't treat him the way they treat other (particularly Democratic) candidates. And so you probably haven't heard or read a word -- not a single word -- about John McCain's wealth during a news report about his tax policies. Indeed, you probably haven't heard or read a word about his wealth during any news report.

That's because he gives them free food and drink and lets them swing on his tire.


GravatarI'm a straight guy but...

Spocko is available!

...I'd switch.


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GravatarOh, did he mention it to you? Are you related?


GravatarIt's like looking at thousands of small towns across the southern and western US that have been abandoned over the past few decades and concluding that Americans have "disappeared."

THE RAPTURE!!! IT'S HERE!!!!!!


GravatarBy sending "Kristen" to DC, Spitzer committed a Federal Crime by violating the Mann Act, It's raely prosecuted, but there it is.
plantsman
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I don't believe "sending" a grown woman anywhere, violates the Mann act. TAKING a woman out of the state for immoral purposes does. She wasn't forced, she was asked, and Spitzer wasn't anywhere near her.

That being said, he's still an idiot. And her whining through a lawyer that the media showed naughty pictures of her and gave out her name is just silly. She is not a private citizen, she is a commodity, selling herself for $4000.00 a pop to very rich and influential men. When the sh*t hits the fan, she has no expectation of privacy.


GravatarWeren't some supposed casting agents for Gone With the Wind prosecuted under the Mann Act?


Gravatar you probably haven't heard or read a word -- not a single word -- about John McCain's wealth during a news report about his tax policies. Indeed, you probably haven't heard or read a word about his wealth during any news report.

But - but - he's a REGULAR GUY!


Gravatar the media showed naughty pictures of her

I must have missed those.


GravatarU.S. Iran War Czar Gen. Glenn Jacobs, the general director of the U.S. Center of the Invasion of Iran, announced Monday that neither the United States government nor the 30,000 troops aligned along Iran's border have any plans to invade the "dangerous and belligerent" Middle Eastern country.

Damn. Official notice that we're invading within 6 weeks or so.

Damn.

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GravatarI must have missed those.
Moe Szyslak


You didn't miss much. She's attractive, but nothing to drop 80 G's on.


GravatarThat being said, he's still an idiot. And her whining through a lawyer that the media showed naughty pictures of her and gave out her name is just silly. She is not a private citizen, she is a commodity, selling herself for $4000.00 a pop to very rich and influential men. When the sh*t hits the fan, she has no expectation of privacy.
foolme1ns | 03.15.08 - 9:47 am | #


I don't see why she has any less right to control her images than other celebrities. Why should CNN make money selling advertising around photos of her without sharing the wealth?


GravatarBut the news media -- McCain's "base" -- don't treat him the way they treat other (particularly Democratic) candidates. And so you probably haven't heard or read a word -- not a single word -- about John McCain's wealth during a news report about his tax policies. Indeed, you probably haven't heard or read a word about his wealth during any news report.

That's because he gives them free food and drink and lets them swing on his tire.
Lime Rickey
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The news media are John McCain's "Kristen", only a whole lot cheaper. They will do anything for him for a hotdog.


GravatarMolly Ivors

Why not list the Eschaton posters (nyms only) that are signed up to come?


GravatarWho amongst us hasn't violated the Mann Act?


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Gravatarer, Cynicus...


GravatarAnyone whose plane was shot down over North Vietnam 40 years ago is above reproach.

?????????


GravatarGood morning.

Anybody want to come over and do my laundry?


GravatarI don't see why she has any less right to control her images than other celebrities. Why should CNN make money selling advertising around photos of her without sharing the wealth?
rootless-e
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celebrities lost that battle years ago. They don't have any rights to control their images when they have broken the law. Look at Dawn Wells mug shot. Nope, when your running with the big dogs, and breaking the law, you lose that control.


Gravatarer, Cynicus...

Yes?

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GravatarBut - but - he's a REGULAR GUY!

That's the Metamucil.


GravatarKristen's playing it smart. From the start. She strikes me as a very clever woman, sure of herself, thinking through her every move. I really can't fault her.


Gravatar[that was the Onion...]


Gravatar"Who amongst us hasn't violated the Mann Act?"

i keep it in state. gas is expensive.


GravatarWho amongst us hasn't violated the Mann Act?

It is true that Thers and I once had sex in Pennsylvania.


(hangs head in shame, looks around for federal agents)


GravatarI thought "Kristin" was at the $1000/hour level--and was she always the one he saw?


GravatarAnyone whose plane was shot down over North Vietnam 40 years ago is above reproach.
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Losing one plane in Vietnam may make you a hero, but John McCain lost THREE planes in Vietnam, he was captured after the last one was shot out from under him. It seems to me he was incredibly wreckless and foolish, and not much has changed.


GravatarThat's the Metamucil.

I thought it was Serutan*.

*That's "Natures" spelled backwards...


GravatarAmerica has been so egregiously misled by Goopers that it is a scandal of gargantuan proportions.

Of course, most Americans aren't aware of it because the MSM never tells them.

From Raygun, through the Gingrich "Contract on America" Congress, to Bushdaddy and Bushboy, the dogma has been promoting the mythical "free market," insisting on "deregulation" of government oversights and numerous Gooper winks and nods to corporate criminals.

The result? The taxpayer had to come up with nearly $1 trillion to bailout the S&Ls in the 1980s and we will be shelling out far more for the current credit crunch caused by the incredibly greedy and irresponsible behavior of the banks and brokerage firms and their abuse of loan procedures.

Goopers have wrecked America's finances on their altar of greed and tax cuts for the rich. It's long past time for Americans to wake up and realize the Goopers are the enemy of the people.


Gravatar[that was the Onion...]

Oh. Well, considering that Onion parody becomes Bushco policy in about 2 weeks, i guess we have maybe 10 weeks to Iran D-Day.


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GravatarKristen's a songwriter and musician, too. All that talent wrapped into one little package.


GravatarMSNBC just ran an ad for Dave Gregory's new show for this Monday. Guess that makes it official.

Bye, Tucker!


GravatarMolly, distantly.  The geographic locations of his ancestors is different from that of ours, but I imagine movement took place at some point. 


GravatarHave a moment of pity--"Kristen" lost her highly lucrative gig. She's got to do something.

Is it accurate that highly paid call girls keep 50%?


GravatarJohn McCain lost THREE planes in Vietnam, he was captured after the last one was shot out from under him. It seems to me he was incredibly wreckless and foolish, and not much has changed.
foolme1ns


Or as a celebrity once said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"


Gravatar
It is true that Thers and I once had sex in Pennsylvania.


Harlot! Pimp!


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Gravatarvia greenwald (who bears the shame of a pajamas media link)
http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/03/ ...of_spitzers.php


GravatarAll that talent wrapped into one little package.

She points out that my package is little, she doesn't get $4000. Hell, i get that pointed out for free.

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GravatarMolly, NTodd's going to accuse you of cheating.


GravatarIs it accurate that highly paid call girls keep 50%?

More if they don't have a pimp.


GravatarYou have a "friend" in Pennsylvania.
Ahem.


GravatarFrom Raygun, through the Gingrich "Contract on America" Congress, to Bushdaddy and Bushboy, the dogma has been promoting the mythical "free market," insisting on "deregulation" of government oversights and numerous Gooper winks and nods to corporate criminals.

The result? The taxpayer had to come up with nearly $1 trillion to bailout the S&Ls in the 1980s and we will be shelling out far more for the current credit crunch caused by the incredibly greedy and irresponsible behavior of the banks and brokerage firms and their abuse of loan procedures.

Goopers have wrecked America's finances on their altar of greed and tax cuts for the rich. It's long past time for Americans to wake up and realize the Goopers are the enemy of the people.
Rudy
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And some democrats (not nameing names, but the president between the bushes (sorry about the pun)) also contributed to the current situation with NAFTA. Not to mention wanting to be the Bush's adopted son.


GravatarRudy, when I'm foodshopping, I hear a ton of grumbling about the Bush Economy.  I also see more and more people having to remove items from their orders, having inadequate funds to cover what they intended to purchase.


GravatarIf the JD is going after Spitzer for paying her, will the IRS go after Kristen for unreported income?


GravatarJohnny Maverick's new economics adviser: the former president of eBay.

'Nuff said...


GravatarMolly, NTodd's going to accuse you of cheating.

He's just my pretend internet husband. I don't think that's legally binding.


GravatarYeah, but what about Roswell?!

There was no doubt about it
It was the myth of UFOs
That's what that old Air Force base was for...

J Paul Getty used to make these there, out of flying saucer scrap...


GravatarSo what would happen if one of them high cost classy ho's told their regular, look just call me directly and I'll give you a 25% dickscount? Would they sue her for breach of contract? Would the Emporer's club have her disfigured or off'd to set an example to the other girls? I thought they were a real classy outfit.


Gravatardave, don't forget about the Geritol!


GravatarMolly, never stopped him before


GravatarGood morning!

Check out these conservative T-shirts that Glenn Reynolds and Michelle Malkin are hawking ...


GravatarIs it accurate that highly paid call girls keep 50%?

It seems high, but she wouldn't have the high-priced connections without the managers. She could turn tricks on the street and keep 100 percent, but she'd only be making a couple of hundred bucks a shot, if that.


GravatarIf the JD is going after Spitzer for paying her, will the IRS go after Kristen for unreported income?
Rudy


In a heartbeat.


Gravatarhaving inadequate funds to cover what they intended to purchase.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

The shocking fact is that America and the American people have become much poorer in the past 7 years.

Prices have risen and wages have been stagnant and many jobs have disappeared.

Only the rich are better off, thanks to the criminals in the WH.


GravatarDoes 40 million make a person superrich?


Gravatar-Atrios 09:30

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where is that fl. guy? He could use this all day.


GravatarThe geographic locations of his ancestors is different from that of ours, but I imagine movement took place at some point.
Sallyh


That would dependonn the type of name. Mine's a byname, so the original bearers may not have been related.


Gravatar"If the JD is going after Spitzer for paying her, will the IRS go after Kristen for unreported income?"

i would think..


GravatarIn a heartbeat.
Elmer


*If* she didn't report it.


GravatarCougarhutch, I don't know, but if you've got it lying around, we could use a little


GravatarIf the JD is going after Spitzer for paying her, will the IRS go after Kristen for unreported income?

Did she fail to report? Occupation: "consultant", income $XXXXXX, etc...........

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GravatarKristen can still declare her income. Even if she's a year or two late, the IRS won't come after her.


GravatarSo what would happen if one of them high cost classy ho's told their regular, look just call me directly and I'll give you a 25% dickscount? Would they sue her for breach of contract? Would the Emporer's club have her disfigured or off'd to set an example to the other girls?

Since prostitution is technically illegal, there's a whole series of things the "pimp" could do to both the worker and her client in that situation. Disfigurement and death are way down on that list (though not necessarily unthinkable)...


GravatarYeah, but what about Roswell?!

There was no doubt about it
It was the myth of UFOs
That's what that old Air Force base was for...

J Paul Getty used to make these there, out of flying saucer scrap...
Elmer, PHD (horrible)
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Interesting, that reminds me that Thursday was the anniversary of the Phoenix Lights. I think it was in 1997 that strange lights showed up in the sky over Phoenix Arizona, Nevada and Sonora Mexico, and were seen by thousands of people on the ground and millions of people on television. The pentagon claimed it was gaseous grenades or something like that, but the Governor of Arizona said that wasn't what he saw.

hmmmmmmm


GravatarMy grandfather's name was changed from the Prot spelling to the Catholic spelling when he was put in an orphanage by his dad. Dad then disappeared. So if I ever find anyone with the original spelling, I'm almost certainly related. My name is common, but the alternate spelling is relatively unusual.


GravatarFor all we know, the Emporer Club took out taxes, and provided health care or whatever. In fact, I bet they did.


GravatarI haven't done my taxes yet and as I expect to be paying in a small amount I'll probably put it off until the last minute as I usually do. So I won't be releasing my tax records just yet.


Gravatar...don't forget about the Geritol!

Do they still make that? My wife and I were wondering, since she's been feeling "run down" recently...


GravatarHow could she report it?


GravatarWhen my then fiance and I were discussing our upcoming nuptuals she said she wanted to keep her family name. I asked her why and she took out the Chicago phone book and showed me ~ 10 pages with my last name and there were none of her's. End of that discussion.


GravatarHell, I thought 40 million was the minimum recommended for heading into retirement these days.

And McCain's over 65, I believe...


GravatarRudy, last week, Monsieur was pumping gas, and he was next to a guy doing the same in his monster truck.  Guy looked like classic CA redneck, naked ladies on the mudflaps, gun rack on the truck, etc.

He says to Monsieur, "I don't care if Obama wants to paint the white house black, I'm done with these fuckers in there making a mess.  Time for someone to come in and clean the damn place up."


GravatarHow could she report it?

Occupation: independent contractor.


GravatarIf the JD is going after Spitzer for paying her, will the IRS go after Kristen for unreported income?

Did she fail to report? Occupation: "consultant", income $XXXXXX, etc...........

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Cynicus
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I think she would have to have reciepts. I would love to know what she was claiming to "consult" on.


Gravatarhmmmmmmm
foolme1ns


Yeah, 'cuz govenors are so smart. Just look at Huckabee.


GravatarI once saw lights in the sky.

PROOF!!!


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GravatarOccupation: independent contractor.
dave™©
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Certainly not "no bid".


GravatarHow could she report it?
Molly Ivors

"Caterer"


GravatarHow could she report it?
Molly Ivors


Thinking it through, the Emporer CLub probably paid her a paycheck, with deductions, as an escort.

Even if they didn't, she can declare income. She doesn't have to explain what she did for the money, just that she made it. But, heck, at this point she could declare that she was a prostitute. It's not like it's not known.


GravatarIsn't McStain tied in with the beer fortune of Budweiser?

I thought I read that a lot of his net worth is tied up in that.


Gravatardave™© | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 9:58 am ~~~

Given the debt and deficits, probably.

But I was wondering the same thing.


Gravatar"I don't care if Obama wants to paint the white house black, I'm done with these fuckers in there making a mess. Time for someone to come in and clean the damn place up."


That should be enough to encourage Rush to go sit on a toilet for a couple years.


Gravatar*If* she didn't report it.
JR, kerosene and a match


Good point. And, if it's that high-class an outfit, she's probably on the books as "administrative assistant".


GravatarYeah, 'cuz govenors are so smart. Just look at Huckabee.
JR, kerosene and a match
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I don't care what the governor said so much, but when you have something like that seen by millions of people, you think you might have heard a little more about it. But the media just went along with the "official" story and that was the end of it.


Gravatar
Yeah, 'cuz govenors are so smart. Just look at Huckabee.


And Ahnuld.


GravatarIsn't Huggybear rich because of his third (present) wife?


GravatarI think she would have to have reciepts. I would love to know what she was claiming to "consult" on.
foolme1ns


The angle of the dangle?


GravatarIsn't McStain tied in with the beer fortune of Budweiser?

I thought I read that a lot of his net worth is tied up in that.
Rudy


I believe that's what Cindy Lou brought to the table.


GravatarOH, say it isn't so...our MSM playing "favorites"...toying with "the truth"...so hard to believe because they are so honorably in pursuit of the facts and information needed to help the people make good choices...why, you've just spoiled my day...shame on you!


GravatarI think she would have to have reciepts. I would love to know what she was claiming to "consult" on.


Secret of 'consulting' is there's nothing to show for advice given. Why not investment advice? No receipts necessary, and as we see with the Carlyle Group, no actual fiscal insight necessary.

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GravatarGood point. And, if it's that high-class an outfit, she's probably on the books as "assministrative assistant".
Elmer, PHD (horrible)

FYT


GravatarSallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

I sure hope the scales are falling from most of American's eyes about the insidiousness of the Goopers.

I hope your redneck gas-pumper is the tip of the iceberg that sinks the Gooper's titanic party.


GravatarElmer, how are the felinous family members?


Gravatar$40M?

Quite comfortable, maybe.


GravatarUp here, where it's legal, any decent "service" provides real bookeeping, booking, advertising, transportation, bouncers, etc.


GravatarRudy, I think it's gonna be a long, hot summer.

Gas already hitting $4/gal in SoCal.


GravatarRudy, when I'm foodshopping, I hear a ton of grumbling about the Bush Economy. I also see more and more people having to remove items from their orders, having inadequate funds to cover what they intended to purchase.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

Sally, I am just about ready to give up commenting. I keep saying shit but no one is even paying attention. I am not rich and never will be now. We live pretty much pay check to pay check because we live in a nice house in a good area. We made this decision because we wanted our kids to go to the best schools and stuff. We could have lived somewhere cheaper. And then we are paying for both boys college with whatever money we can scrounge. So. . .

This economy is killing people like me and I am better off than MOST people in this town. Every time the gas prices rise, people get hurt. Every time something costs more at the grocery store, people get hurt. The government, the blogosphere, and the news seems to be completely unaware of HOW MUCH this is hurting people.

Its effect cannot be OVERSTATED. Gasoline went up fifty cents a gallon here this week. People NEED to drive to work. There is no choice. They cannot junk their cars and buy more efficient ones. They cannot use mass transit, there isn't any. They either drive to work or they don't have a job. They have to drive to the store. They have to go to school.

They have to eat. There is no choice. They will drive. They will eat. They will heat their houses. What they will not do is go to JC Penney and buy a new blouse or coat or some shoes. They will not got to Olive Garden and be treated as family. They will not get their cars washed. . . and so on.

Without this ancillary spending our economy is going down ---->


GravatarI gotta run. See you fine folks later.


GravatarUp here, where it's legal, any decent "service" provides real bookeeping, booking, advertising, transportation, bouncers, etc.

Just like "Night Shift"!


GravatarIsn't McStain tied in with the beer fortune of Budweiser?

Hard to see how you could go wrong investing in booze. Times are good, Scotch sells, times are bad, beer goes up.
Course, more folks did like Sallyh & me, Ed McMahon'd have to find a new job.
If he's still around......


GravatarMaybe the Emperor's Club had an Iraq contract. Then it wouldn't matter what they did with their money.


Gravatarbut when you have something like that seen by millions of people, you think you might have heard a little more about it.

You did, far too fucking much about it. The UFO thing is like a cult, no matter if there is a really good non-woo expliation, it will still be promoted as "mysterious". And the teebee panders to that crap.


GravatarWish I had said that.

In the lead up to the March 4th primaries, the tone of both campaigns shifted and the civility that I had appreciated disappeared. The long term goal of beating the Republican nominee took a back seat to the short term goal of proving one's viability by tearing down the other Democratic candidate. We lost sight of the general election, we lost sight of the true opponent and if we continue to be shortsighted, I fear we will lose in November.

The heated rhetoric between both campaigns has continued to intensify as we head into the Pennsylvania primary. While you trade barbs, McCain is uniting the Republican Party around his thinly disguised right wing agenda. In the next six weeks, McCain can sit back, amass his war chest, concentrate his base and delight as you deconstruct each other.


I have but Pete DeFazio has said it much better.


GravatarI hope your redneck gas-pumper is the tip of the iceberg that sinks the Gooper's titanic party.
Rudy


Sadly my conversations over this topic always has them blaming the cost of a barrel of oil and not realizing/acknowledging that Exxon is making gazillions of dollars profit despite the cost of a barrel of oil.


GravatarI hope your redneck gas-pumper is the tip of the iceberg that sinks the Gooper's titanic party.

sad to think that it's all about gas prices, isn't it?

Remember back in '04 (and even '06) talk about how the prices would magically drop in late October?

this year it'll take quite a drop to make a dent...


GravatarJust like "Night Shift"!
Molly Ivors


Live Tuna Fish will NOT eat mayonnaise.

Don't ask me how I know this.


GravatarThere's never yet been a war without prostitution. Someone's servicing those guys.


GravatarJust like "Night Shift"!
Molly Ivors


Heh. A friend of mine workjed as a "driver" for one of those services. He and the car waited outside, the lady had a beeper.

Another woman of my acquaintance ran a small service. She did at lest 8 hours a day on bookkeeping, etc. It's not the same thing as "pimping" at all.


GravatarBeowulf, by summer, I'm thinking that the economy is going to be the first thing on everyone's minds.  People are getting crushed.  My husband and I have good jobs, and we're still feeling the pinch. 

We're angry because we were good kids who followed the rules.  We went to college, got degrees, worked hard.  We were assured that while we might never be rich--and we won't--that if we played by the rules, we'd be okay.

And then, the rules were abandoned. 


GravatarNot certain about the exact economics of it, but I believe most strip clubs treat their dancers as "independent contractors," so they're probably issuing a 1099 instead of a W2, which also means they don't necessarily withhold taxes. Strip club dancers usually work for "tips" and, unfortunately nowadays, in most cases they pay some sort of "stage fee" for the privilege of working. The "tips" minus the "stage fee" would be the "reported" income.


Gravatar"I don't care if Obama wants to paint the white house black, I'm done with these fuckers in there making a mess. Time for someone to come in and clean the damn place up."

Typical CA redneck, All blacks are janitors...


GravatarEvery time something costs more at the grocery store, people get hurt. The government, the blogosphere, and the news seems to be completely unaware of HOW MUCH this is hurting people.

Its effect cannot be OVERSTATED. Gasoline went up fifty cents a gallon here this week. People NEED to drive to work.
.

Faux News ticker: "Price of gas goes up $1.75 per gallon since Dems sieze control of Congress."


Gravatarjac!  How are you, sexy one?


Gravatarjac! How are you, sexy one?
Sallyh



All is well here!


GravatarObama needs to mention the fact that McCain hasn't released his tax return. Every day until the MCM pays attention.

I can't release my tax return right now because I haven't done my taxes yet...


GravatarElmer, he had an Obama sticker on his truck. 

The point is that people are fed up.  75% of the nation realizes it's being screwed without lube.

The other 25% are just batshit.


Gravatarnot realizing/acknowledging that Exxon is making gazillions of dollars profit despite the cost of a barrel of oil.,/i>

which comes from buying the Exxon story that "We're helpless before OPEC", when the fact is, much of that Exxon profit is the increase of the value of the oil bbls. IN THE OIL FIELDS EXXON OWNS.

OPEC cartelsto keep crude artificially scarce, and thus artificially expensive, but it's with the full cooperation of the big oil companies, who also profit thereby. the companies then cartel to reduce refinery capacity, creating artificial scarcity of refined petroleum products, further jacking prices.

Whenever you see/hear an oil shill saying the words "free market", shoot him. Petroleum is THE most artificial and unfree market in this world.

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GravatarTralfaz, spring break's next week.  I've got to do mine. 


Gravatar"We're all adults here - we can talk about this openly... PROSTITUTION!

But what does that mean really? Sometimes it helps to understand a word if you break it down, so let's do that now shall we?

Pros... it doesn't mean anything, you can forget about that...

Tit, I think we all know what that means,

Tu, two tit and TION of course, from the Latin to shun... to say uh-uh no thank you anyway I don't want it, to push away... it doesn't even belong in this word really. "


GravatarDave (c), we won't ask you how you know that stuff.


Gravatar...he had an Obama sticker on his truck.

pasted over the confederate flag decal?


Paging Dr. Dean!


GravatarTake a look at this picture of Spitzer, which was taken yesterday.

What does it say?


Gravatarjac, I don't recall my Latin teacher ever giving that example


GravatarTralfaz, spring break's next week. I've got to do mine.
Sallyh


Same here. But I'll probably wait until 4/12 or something. My mom keeps reminding me whenever she calls...


GravatarSecret of 'consulting' is there's nothing to show for advice given. Why not investment advice? No receipts necessary, and as we see with the Carlyle Group, no actual fiscal insight necessary.

-
Cynicus
-----------------------------
KRISTEN WAS THE CONSULTANT FOR THE CARLYLE GROUP?!?!?! No wonder they're fucked.


GravatarEffin slanties. *sigh* Apologia.

-


GravatarI could give a shit about anybody's tax return.

What Obama and HRC have not done with any sort of "soundbyteability" is connect the Iraqi occupation with everything that's fucked up about this country.

The reason gas is up is because of the Iraq occupation.
The reason you don't have a sane health plan is because of the Iraq occupation.
The reason everything in the supermarket is costing so much more is because of the Iraq occupation.

You know.
Like that.


GravatarCougarhutch, we were out in the canyons looking at wildflowers yesterday.  This area used to be hardcore Bush country. 

Saw bumper stickers and banners for Obama and Clinton.  None for McCain, Huckabee, or any of the other clowns.


GravatarWhat does it say?

Chess King?


GravatarFrom that story on Johnny Mav's new economics adviser:

GOP insiders said the move to add Whitman, who had been a leading supporter of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney before he dropped out of the presidential race last month...

Good Lord! *choke*

SallyH should like this part:

Whitman, 51 - who is quietly exploring the possibility of a 2010 run for California governor at the urging of top Republicans...

Just what California needs - another batshit insane wingnut governor!


GravatarTake a look at this picture of Spitzer, which was taken yesterday.

What does it say?
res ipsa loquitur


NO WHITE PANTS BEFORE EASTER!

Jesus.


GravatarElmer, how are the felinous family members?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Furry as ever, and...no new injuries to report! Booger is healing up nicely, but the fur over the sheved area is growing very slowly...


GravatarIs it now safe to say that Heath Shuler is even more useless as a Democratic congressman than he was as a quarterback for the Redskins?

That would not have seemed possible to me, but it's true.


Gravatardave, teh gross.


Gravatar30 dead in protests against chimpy's Chicom buddies in Tibet

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080...lWP_oZinLKs0NUE


GravatarChess King?
Molly Ivors


Little Boy caught with hand in cookie jar.


GravatarHoney Bear, that's the truth.

Money for wars.  Nothing else.


GravatarSpizer has them big ears that are so good to grab on to and pull towards you. He's a real ladies man.

And jac, you broke up the word wrong. It has something to do with the PROSTrate and doing "IT".


Gravatar

Little Boy caught with hand in cookie jar.


I knew that.

"I'm sooo naughty!"

Feh.

On the plus side, he had apparently threatened to cut the state contribution for CC students, and now that he's gone, we think Paterson won't.

Or so I learned at a meeting yesterday.


Gravatarwe won't ask you how you know that stuff.

Well, it's not as exciting as you might think... there have been a couple of lawsuits over the past couple of years against the Mitchell Brothers and a couple of other clubs over the independet contractor issue that's gotten a good amount of press (esp. in the SF weeklies).

I did meet this woman a few weeks ago, though, and she gave me a little background on the issue, too... along with some good stories about her and Hunter Thompson (she thought he was a very sweet guy)!


GravatarSaw bumper stickers and banners for Obama and Clinton. None for McCain, Huckabee, or any of the other clowns.

the nation is evenly divided between those who believe being black will help Obama and those who believe it will work against him.

We'll need an election to settle this issue!


GravatarMrs. Faso Isn't Laughing [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

From Page Six:

USUALLY dull Albany types are having a laugh riot at the expense of outgoing Gov. Eliot Spitzer. "The state could close its multibillion-dollar budget gap by opening a bordello on Governors Island," cracked one upstater. "After all, it already has the branding." Another came up with a T-shirt slogan: "Don't blame me. I voted for the other john" - a reference to Republican John Faso.


Oh, wingnut "humor" at the expense of a poor working girl.


Gravatarnot realizing/acknowledging that Exxon is making gazillions of dollars profit despite the cost of a barrel of oil.
Gimlet


Despite?


GravatarThe reason gas is up is because of the Iraq occupation.
The reason you don't have a sane health plan is because of the Iraq occupation.
The reason everything in the supermarket is costing so much more is because of the Iraq occupation.


You might want to do a bit more research.


GravatarChess King?
Molly Ivors


Holy crap, that's a blast from the past. Do those stores still exist? I still have the thin leather ties I bought there.


GravatarIs it now safe to say that Heath Shuler is even more useless as a Democratic congressman than he was as a quarterback for the Redskins?

Yes.

Sigh.

I had hoped he would at least be less worse than Charles Taylor. As far as votes go, there seems to be little difference.


GravatarComment from Americablog article "WHERE ARE ALL THE FREE MARKET PEOPLE NOW?"

The financial system is in meltdown, and we get outstanding analysis from David Brooks like this:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/w...bb/w...tzer_03- 14.html
MARK SHIELDS: I do agree, Jim. And I spoke with Jane Bryant Quinn just after the -- I said, "Gee, thanks for the cheerful message," after her piece with Judy.

And she said, really, the point is people don't understand how serious it is, because, unlike the 1930s, we had great migrations from large sections of rural America, you know, people just picking up stakes and moving to California. We haven't seen those kinds of signs, but she said it is that serious.

JIM LEHRER: Well, she just said on the program, she was comparing it to the depression in the 1930s.

MARK SHIELDS: That's right.

JIM LEHRER: I mean, the similar kinds of things.

DAVID BROOKS: That maybe a bit -- I think that -- I don't have her expertise, but the business leaders I've spoken to said we might have a sharp recession like in the early '80s or we might have a shallow recession as we did four or five years ago. I haven't heard the 1930s.

MARK SHIELDS: I think we're beyond shallow, David.

JIM LEHRER: We're beyond shallow?
pro choice lib


GravatarWelladay, must be going. Hope to visit again later, but if not.... good day and good luck!

-


GravatarAmerica will probably survive the Bushboy reign of error and terror, but it might take a generation to restore the quality of life that existed prior to his usurpation of the WH, and there will be many innocent, middlelclass people who will have to suffer through bankruptcy and serious deprivations as a result of his incompetence, depravity and ignorance.

And that's the price we pay for having a "captive MSM" that is owned and operated by the rich, greedy corporations.


Gravatarhe had an Obama sticker on his truck.

Hope he don't park that thing in the lot at the Dew Drop Inn...


GravatarThis is weird. I haven't been able to connect to Haloscan from my home ip since last night. I just hooked on to my neighbor's wireless, and voilá haloscan. Neighbor appears to be using the same dns and dhcp servers as me, so I assume they have an IP out of the same address pool, and are Comcast victims as well. It's the same for all haloscan sites. Any thoughts?


GravatarElmer, there were Obama stickers parked at the local BBQ joint we passed.


Gravatarso long, gotta go batsies, be good.


GravatarI had hoped he would at least be less worse than Charles Taylor. As far as votes go, there seems to be little difference.
Lindsay, clean fucking hippie | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 10:26 am | #


Votes for Pelosi and not Delay/Bohner.


GravatarOut of here. Cyall anon...


GravatarBeen pleasantly surprised at some of the people who I'd never have guessed who are supporting Obama. One is the child of the kind of hereditary racist you find in rural Maine.

A small sign of hope, but real, nonetheless.


Gravatar"WHERE ARE ALL THE FREE MARKET PEOPLE NOW?"

[Looks out 34th fl window]
Couple of 'em just went by...


GravatarAmmo dumb blows up in Albania, 67 dead including US troops. Huh? Serbs or Islamists responsible?


Gravatar150 wounded at Nard Ndoka, Albania


GravatarFrom that FT review of LF:

But did you know that “Dachau hosted the world’s largest alternative and organic medicine research lab and produced its own organic honey”? Well, I never.




Gravatar"WHERE ARE ALL THE FREE MARKET PEOPLE NOW?"

[Looks out 34th fl window]
Couple of 'em just went by...
Elmer, PHD (horrible)
-----------------------
"Looks like a stock holders meeting, that was Johnson"

"that wasn't Johnson"

"yes it was"

another body passes window, both men look and say "that was Johnson"

Old Monty Python sketch. Funny stuff.

Well I am off for the day to a magical land called McClellanville, where there is no internet connection, no McDonalds, and the dogs are allowed to sleep in the middle of the street. QUIET AND RELAXATION!!!!!

Y'all have a great day.


GravatarAny thoughts?

Wave to the nice man from NSA.


GravatarMany non-employees get 1099s. Nothing withheld, but carrying the obligation to pay taxes plus payroll tax (both portions) at tax time. And in some cases, the requirement to pay estimated taxes quarterly.

True for numerous professions. In the case of free-lance writers, the amount remaining after all this goes toward the purchase of a bag of turnips to get one through the winter.


GravatarGromit, good morning!


GravatarHi, Sallyh! Want some snow? I am now officially sick of winter.


GravatarWave to the nice man from NSA.
Oh, I do that every day. But why would he want me to stop subverting the American Way by talking to you dfhs?


GravatarI am now officially sick of winter.
Gromit


I heard a bob-white when I woke up this AM.


GravatarGromit, thanks, I'll pass on the snow. 

Nervous about visiting my daughter's rehab today for family group--not about seeing her, but about getting kicked out and not being allowed to participate.  Apparently her counselor feels her family is 'toxic.'


GravatarJohn McCain is on mah teevee saying that Bush fucked up after 9/11. Guess it took him seven years to realize that, since it's the first time we're hearing it from him.


GravatarRes, good morning! 

Did you know McDonalds is giving out tiaras in Happy Meals right now? 




GravatarWow. It's a lovely spring day here. I'm out on the screen porch and Miss Thing is stretched out on the tiles in the sun.


GravatarGood luck, Sally. You seem healthful; not at all toxic.


Gravatarcahuenga are you saying that they have said something about it or that the Iraq occupation can't be linked to everything that's fucked up about this country?


GravatarAnswer: Character and capitalism.


GravatarListening to the NY Philharmonic concert from Pyonyang on XM. The one piece I really wanted to hear (Korean folksong) gets interrupted by a Test Of The Emergency Broadcast System.

I generally love XM, but they still have a few bugs to work out.


GravatarWow. It's a lovely spring day here. I'm out on the screen porch and Miss Thing is stretched out on the tiles in the sun.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Is, uh... anything else special about this day, or am I remembering incorrectly?


GravatarDon't forget to preorder your shirts!

(They also come mail-order.)


GravatarWasn't that the only Korean piece they played, Gromit?


GravatarHugs, Sallyh.

I'm guessing your daughter's counselor has pretty much heard only her side of the story. Hope things go well for you - this stuff is difficult, to say the least.


Gravatarbut about getting kicked out and not being allowed to participate.



{{hugs}}


GravatarSnarkworth, her husband's been running his ass off getting her clothes, having her prescriptions filled, bringing the baby to see her, etc.  He was told he couldn't come back to group because he and Mlle argued (and settled) numerous issues last week. 

I also learned she was taken off her meds for bipolar disorder when she was admitted.  I'm alarmed about that.  She's now back on them as of Wednesday, but I was unaware that she was not permitted her medications. 

Her counselor has been discouraging her from talking to her parents and husband, who has actually done a good job of cleaning up his act and taking care of their daughter.

Her first rehab virtually mandated family participation.  This place seems to discourage it.  They've been hostile to us from the get go. 

Something's not right here.


GravatarWinter seems to be having its dying gasp aorund here today, but to most it would probably seem like spring weather already. The last two weeks of March are often one of the nicest times of the entire year in Berkeley. By early April, the fog usually gets really aggressive, and we don't see the sun all that often again until mid-July.


GravatarAny thoughts?
sidhra


Bad cookies?

Bad hosts file?


GravatarI'll go make some more doughnuts.


GravatarBlerb, was warm and lovely all week here.  Cooling down now, but still very pretty and sunny.


GravatarDid you know McDonalds is giving out tiaras in Happy Meals right now?

There is something troubling about that.


Gravatar
Something's not right here.


I agree.


GravatarHope there's some clarification today.


GravatarHecate, I loooove the Washington area in the spring. Reminds me of that lovely Indigo Girls song, "Southland in the Springtime".

One of the Austinites said it was already in the 90s there. Don't know how they can stand it. My brain shuts down around 84°.


Gravatar'mornin'

Can't resist citing gail Collins today. She isn't exactly the spiciest jalapeno in the chimichanga, but this is a priceless reaction to the spectacle of George Bush addressing economists:

We’re really past expecting anything much, but in times of crisis you would like to at least believe your leader has the capacity to pretend he’s in control. Suddenly, I recalled a day long ago when my husband worked for a struggling paper full of worried employees and the publisher walked into the newsroom wearing a gorilla suit.

The country that elected George Bush — sort of — because he seemed like he’d be more fun to have a beer with than Al Gore or John Kerry is really getting its comeuppance. Our credit markets are foundering, and all we’ve got is a guy who looks like he’s ready to kick back and start the weekend.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/1...collins.html? hp


GravatarLaura's next pet.


GravatarNYT article re Bear:

Regulators believed that the new system spread out the risk. Alan Greenspan, a former chairman of the Federal Reserve, said the system had transferred risk from banks — which he called “highly leveraged institutions” — to “stable American and international institutions.”

It turned out he was wrong. Much of the risk had remained with commercial banks, but packaged in such a way that they were required to put aside fewer reserves to protect against losses. Much of the rest of the risk ended up with financial institutions that relied on their ability to borrow at low rates whenever they needed it.


Gravatar.was warm and lovely all week here. Cooling down now, but still very pretty and sunny.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


I guess it's hard to even come up with a nicest time of year in LA. But for the untold millions of people there, it would be one of the best places on the whole planet to live.


GravatarI don't recall my Latin teacher ever giving that example
Sallyh


No9, but my history teacher gave me this one:

Politics, from the Greek "poly", meaning many, and "ticks" meaning "blood-sucking parasites"


GravatarOur credit markets are foundering, and all we’ve got is a guy who looks like he’s ready to kick back and start the weekend.

watertiger said this last night. I said that I don't buy all these people on the internets who said Bush won't allow an election and will refuse to leave office and watertiger reminded us that the man is done and that he CAN'T WAIT to leave office so that he can drink in peace.


GravatarBad cookies?

Don't eat the Thin Mints, dude.


GravatarHoneyBearKelly,

The war is just one one piece of a very large, multi-level clusterfuck.

If you are looking to distill down to the root cause of our ills there is only one event that fits the bill. Bush.


GravatarJohn Edwards said he would not release his tax returns


GravatarJohn McCain is on mah teevee saying that Bush fucked up after 9/11. Guess it took him seven years to realize that, since it's the first time we're hearing it from him.
Florida | 03.15.08 - 10:41 am | #

I've actuaaly heard him say this before. He then went on to say we should have used more troops and more force when we invaded Iraq.


Gravatarcahuenga you're 100% right, 0% wrong.


GravatarListening to the NY Philharmonic concert from Pyonyang on XM. The one piece I really wanted to hear (Korean folksong) gets interrupted by a Test Of The Emergency Broadcast System.

1. Can't they figure out a less intrusive way to test the EBS?

2. Do we need the EBS? Was it used on 9/11. Katrina? When Bush got elected?


GravatarSuddenly, I recalled a day long ago when my husband worked for a struggling paper full of worried employees and the publisher walked into the newsroom wearing a gorilla suit.

Now that's why I've been so edgy the past seven years.


GravatarNight Shift

I love that movie.

"Bill, call your mom. Tell her you love her."


Gravatarmostly gone? is that like being mostly dead?

Have fun storming the castle!


GravatarThe Democratic Party is destroying itself. What are y'all talking abt? Your pets?


GravatarEvidently, Kristol suggested a day or two ago that Clarence Thomas was the outstanding conservative in politics now, and that McCain should choose him for VP.

Two letters in the NY Times address these. They're both pretty damn funny.

My brother in law thinks McCain picks Liddy Dole, to get the disaffected women's vote when Obama gets the nomination.

I tried to explain to him, a Yale graduate, that if McCain is elected, it will be the end of legal abortion in this country. He'll appoint another neanderthal to the Supremes, and that will be that. "Oh, no," cries he, "they'll leave it to the states!" Yeah, sez I, just like gay marriage. They'll leave it to the states if the states go the way they want. When they don't, they'll amend the Constitution or have the Supremes deal with it.


GravatarThe Girl Scouts of America, Chuck? America?


GravatarProfWombat, I needed your opinion.  Your Esteemed Marsupialness has mail.


GravatarI've actuaaly heard him say this before. He then went on to say we should have used more troops and more force when we invaded Iraq.

Well this is true to some extant. The war would have gone much better if we'd loaded up Bush, Cheney, McCain and the rest of the neocons into a B-52 bomber, and dropped them on Iraq from 70,000 feet.


GravatarHey Molly,

You said something about my having registered for 2 people on Saturday? I didn't mean to do that, if I did.


GravatarMan of the People John McCain is headed to London for a fundraiser with Lord Rothschild.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/ t...raisers_to.html


Gravatar"china accuses tibetan protesters of killing innocent people"

fuck you voice of america, the chinese are lying commie assholes


GravatarSuddenly, I recalled a day long ago when my husband worked for a struggling paper full of worried employees and the publisher walked into the newsroom wearing a gorilla suit.


No one notices the guy in the gorilla suit


Gravatar.watertiger reminded us that the man is done and that he CAN'T WAIT to leave office so that he can drink in peace.
res ipsa loquitur, ginchy


"Apres moi, le Deluge"

Thanks, Shrubby! I get to live in fear that I'll lose my nice new house and my life's savings with it because I won't have a job! Can I go back to just living in fear of scary Arabs now?


GravatarIf McCain picks Elizabeth Dole, I will vote for Nader.


GravatarArf! yipeyipeyipeyipe!


Gravatarbut the business leaders I've spoken to said we might have a sharp recession like in the early '80s or we might have a shallow recession as we did four or five years ago. I haven't heard the 1930s.

What do you think the business leaders in the 30s were saying, dumbass? In the beginning they were saying this is no big deal, just a little slack in the system that needs to be worked out.

I have an idea. Maybe you could get a history book, read it, and think about it. Nahhhhh, that's not gonna happen.


Gravatarfuck you voice of america, the chinese are lying commie assholes
mogwai


That doesn't prove that they are lying, though.


GravatarCoT,
I can either refund it to you through Paypal, or just give it to you in 2 weeks. Or, I can comp you a shirt and buy you a drink. Your choice.

And here I was, all excited to meet the SO.


GravatarLooks like BHO's been busted as a liar.

Any big fans of his in here?


GravatarProfessor Derbes,

Those letters to the NYT re Kristol's column are teh funny.


GravatarCNN anchor holding up broken pieces of... CNN


GravatarMentioned it earlier, but we rented "Keeping Mum" last night. Hysterical, twisted British comedy. Highly recommended.

Maggie Smith, the guy who plays Mr Bean and Patrick Swayze. Prof McGonnigle as a homicidal Mary Poppins in Little Wapping (pop 57).


GravatarAlso in today's Times: a portrait of a retired WWII vet firefighter whose son died on 9/11. He wanted to bomb the hell out of Iraq because The Decider™ had convinced him that Iraq was behind it.

Now he feels betrayed. When, while watching the news, Bush said, "Well, we don't have any connection between 9/11 and Iraq," he "went through the roof".

With a little bit of luck, 2008 may mark the beginning of twenty years' exile for our friends in the GOP.


GravatarWe met a new Atriot last night: "Matty".

Nice guy. Good lookin'.


GravatarCNN anchor holding up broken pieces of... CNN

I can only hear this in James Earl Jones' voice.


GravatarWhat do you think the business leaders in the 30s were saying, dumbass?

I love this crack den.


GravatarMolly,

Don't worry about it. I guess I thought you had to register for concert separately.


GravatarCNN anchor holding up broken pieces of... CNN
Culture of TrÜth


Too bad the tornado didn't do a more thorough job.


GravatarOOoo, Travel Fund money!


(Sure you don't want a shirt?)


Gravatar.Now he feels betrayed. When, while watching the news, Bush said, "Well, we don't have any connection between 9/11 and Iraq," he "went through the roof".

With a little bit of luck, 2008 may mark the beginning of twenty years' exile for our friends in the GOP.
David Derbes, writin' away


There is no way in Hell the Bushistas could have sold this war to the American people up front.


GravatarLike a less intense Jason Bourne.


GravatarHave any of our Atlantans checked in? They're in for another round today.


GravatarNice guy. Good lookin'.

Wimmen! They only care about the superficial stuff.


GravatarThanks, Ms. Res. But (insert Jon Voight/Joe Buck fake Texan accent) I ain't a fer real professor, merely an overeducated high school teacher working for a university.


GravatarThat doesn't prove that they are lying, though.
JR,


concern noted, but that VOA story only had the official chinese side of the story, there is little info from lhasa

The Chinese authorities blamed the Dalai Lama, the exiled spiritual leader of Tibet, for the violence and said the government would maintain stability in Lhasa. “The government of Tibet Autonomous Region said Friday there had been enough evidence to prove that the recent sabotage was ‘organized, premeditated and masterminded’ by the Dalai clique,” reported Xinhua, the Chinese government’s official news agency.

bahahahahahahahah, teh dalai lama inciting violence, that shit is classic!


GravatarThose letters to the NYT re Kristol's column are teh funny.

William Kristol, Savior of the Sudan!


GravatarIs the Editoress around? I think that today's her birthday.


Gravatar
Wimmen! They only care about the superficial stuff.


Why yes, yes, we do


GravatarHave any of our Atlantans checked in? They're in for another round today.
Molly Ivors


The power was out to a large part of the metro area today.


GravatarHappy Birthday, dear Hecate!


GravatarLike a less intense Jason Bourne.


Well, he had no cause to snap anyone's neck like a twig last night.



GravatarThe government of Tibet Autonomous Region

Clear Skies! Bush learned from the best.


GravatarHecate,

It's your birthday? Happy Birthday, mi'lady!


GravatarWait a minute, how much extra are we talkin' about?

Hell yeah, I want a shirt.


GravatarMcCain's having a $1K/plate fundraiser in London for monarchists exiled since 1776.


GravatarIs the Editoress around? I think that today's her birthday.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Back atcha.


GravatarWell, he had no cause to snap anyone's neck like a twig last night.


Well, we were on our *best* behavior.


GravatarIndeed res ipsa.

Tried talking him into joining us in Philly.

Hope to see more of him on bloggie and in person.

Very nice.


Gravatarbut that VOA story only had the official chinese side of the story, there is little info from lhasa


yeah, I'm just remembering the Grenada horseshit.

Granma had the accurate stuff. Reagan and the US press lied through their teeth.


GravatarThank you, everyone. I love birthdays!


GravatarHappy birthday, Hecate!


GravatarHappy Birthday Hecate!

I'm glad the sun is shining on you today.


GravatarLike a less intense Jason Bourne.

He really does look like him.


GravatarMcCain's having a $1K/plate fundraiser in London for monarchists exiled since 1776.
res ipsa loquitur


He's a Man of the People.

Which people, I guess we now know.


GravatarHAPPY BIRTHDAY, HECATE!!!!!




GravatarHappy Birthday to yooooooouuuuu!

Doin' anything special?


GravatarHe's coming.

We got our hooks into him nao


GravatarBut I like calling you "Professor."


GravatarAnd Happy Birthday, Hecate!!!


GravatarHappy Birthday, Hecate! Best wishes from the Windy City!


GravatarMcCain's having a $1K/plate fundraiser in London for monarchists exiled since 1776.
res ipsa loquitur


I wouldn't think there were too many of them left.


GravatarJR, no access from either the Vista laptop Opera, Firefox or MSIE, from VM running Ubuntu, or XP pro desktop same browser collection. Can't connect to www.haloscan.com (72.9.234.71) from x.x.x.119.


GravatarBut I like calling you "Professor."
res ipsa loquitur, ginchy


You can call me professor if I can call you Mary Ann.


GravatarBlack Sea jelly fish.

http://www.tutztutz.com/2008/03/...-the-black-sea/


GravatarFeliz cumpleaños Hecate.

Love you madly.


GravatarHe's been a lurker for a while, but only started posting in the last month or so.


Gravatar
Wimmen! They only care about the superficial stuff.

I must go out and plant the honeydew melon today. 


GravatarProfWombat, thank you for your email.

Back atcha.


Gravatarcaught giamatti and the dude who wrote teh john adams book that is an HBO miniseries on teh newshour, and the guy kind of blew up giamatti on the role (not bad, but he said with all due respect, not many actors could be john adams)...it's nice to see hollyweird egos burst


GravatarVery happy birthday wishes to you, favorite witch.


GravatarYou can call me professor if I can call you Mary Ann.

Mary Ann's jammed up with the cops like Spitzer. Maybe they should run off together.

I cannot get over that picture of Spitzer. Like a little kid. Fucker.


GravatarI guess those Black Sea jellies don't have stingy thingies on them, otherwise the lady in the picture would in a major Ow-Ow situation...


GravatarI wouldn't think there were too many of them left.

They're like McCain -- they've all been preserved in amber since T.J. let The Declaration loose on the world.


GravatarGood morning from NYC!

John Gibson finally got fired from Fox News.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/1...gin& oref=slogin


GravatarJR, no access from either the Vista laptop Opera, Firefox or MSIE, from VM running Ubuntu, or XP pro desktop same browser collection. Can't connect to www.haloscan.com (72.9.234.71) from x.x.x.119.
sidhra


Turn everything off, then reboot in sequence... modem, then router, then computer. Power down for at least 15 seconds.


GravatarBut I like calling you "Professor."
res ipsa loquitur, ginchy


No prob, I just don't wanna mislead people. You know better, but others might not.

A friend sent me something from the WaPo that non-German Ph.D.'s who call themselves "Dr" are breaking the law! At a few colleges I know of, nobody goes by "Dr", because it's just assumed everyone (even the secretaries, janitors and first year students) has one.


Gravatarsidhra have you tried clearing your cache and all that stuff?


GravatarJohn Gibson finally got fired from Fox News.

Solid evidence of the existence of a personal god who intervenes in human affairs.


GravatarHecate, I know it's your birthday, and I hate to ask, but some incense would be welcome today.  Thank you, and may you have the happiest year ever.


Gravatar
You can call me professor if I can call you Mary Ann.


NO FLIRTING!!!


GravatarWhy would someone just lurk here? If you think to spend any time at all here, why wouldn't you sound off?

What timidity.


GravatarA friend sent me something from the WaPo that non-German Ph.D.'s who call themselves "Dr" are breaking the law!

I thought we beat those people.


GravatarCoT,
Concert ticket was 15, shirt 11.

I owe you 4 bucks.


Gravatarsome incense would be welcome today.

For sure!


GravatarHappy Birthday Hecate!

I'm glad the sun is shining on you today.
her whiskeyness


Happy Birthday! I'm glad I get to share my Ides Birthday with someone I admire so much!


GravatarHappy day, Hecate!


GravatarHow is BHO's judgement superior to HRC's? He thought he could run for the Presidency with this Jeremiah Wright thing hanging around his neck like an albatross?

That's shit judgement. A lot of you are guilty of promoting it.


GravatarArf! yipeyipeyipeyipe!


GravatarI thought we beat those people.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash


Er... let me amend that: non-German Ph.D.'s who call themselves "Dr" inside Germany are breakin' the law...


GravatarTread, happy birthday to you, too!

Cake orders being taken now!


GravatarCan I call you "Dr. Derbes" ?

Also, where is the NYT article about that WWI vet? I cannot find it.


Gravatarwhapwhapwhapwhapwhapwhap...and one to grow on!


GravatarTread,

And to you! The world needs all the Pisces it can get and I've always liked being born on a day devoted to brining down tyrants!


GravatarJohn Gibson finally got fired from Fox News.

Wow. This week just keeps getting better and better!


GravatarJake, I guess the Big Story suffered from Little Ratings.


Gravatar"The tornados in Atlanta were God's punishment on CNN for Glenn Beck!"

/McCain'sBFFsJohnHageeandJerryFalwell


GravatarI owe you 4 bucks.
Molly Ivors


No, no, no! There's the Convenience Fee and the Service Fee and the Shipping Fee and the Organizer's Fee. He owes you $64.50.

Geez, you English majors need a marketing course!


GravatarA friend sent me something from the WaPo that non-German Ph.D.'s who call themselves "Dr" are breaking the law!

It has been changed to Non-European Ph.D's.

Dr. Maddow was talking about this yesterday.

heh.


GravatarHappy birthday, Tread!


Gravatarh-birf, tread.


Gravatar Thanks!


Gravatarwhapwhapwhapwhapwhapwhap...and one to grow on!

Ouch!

OK, I'm going to go plant some seeds. You all have a wonderful day!


GravatarCake orders being taken now!


(waves plunger hopefully)


GravatarHRC is right to make Florida an issue. She would take it in the general if she can play it up as some sort of reemption of 2000.

Obama's finished. You morans haven't figured it out yet.


GravatarDalek, since we have at least 2 lovely birthdays today, there will be plenty of cake. 


GravatarIf John picks me as a running mate, I'll be a third nipple for the administration.

Hecate, Bob and I can stop by and wish you a happy birthday as long as you don't mind my gerbil wrap-around.
-Liddy Dole


GravatarGoddess, many happy returns of the day.


Gravatar...anyone else smell a small, smoldering yappy dog that needs to be let out?


GravatarHEY!!!!!!!!

This is the first weekend I don't have to paint!

(I do, however, have to clean paint off the floor.)


GravatarI wouldn't think there were too many of them left.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:05 am | #

Mccainus knows them all personally.


Gravatarthere will be plenty of cake.



Gravatarwhapwhapwhapwhapwhapwhap

Um, that has other connotations here. I think you meant spankspankspank.


Gravatar A friend sent me something from the WaPo that non-German Ph.D.'s who call themselves "Dr" are breaking the law!

*hatches secret plan to send Dr. Thers to Germany*


GravatarA friend sent me something from the WaPo that non-German Ph.D.'s who call themselves "Dr" are breaking the law!

Erm, IIRC, the Germans, until recently, weren't required to recognize the doctorate, or use it in *official* communications. A wee bit different from "against the law".

Anyhow, they stopped that.


GravatarListening to the NY Philharmonic concert from Pyonyang on XM. The one piece I really wanted to hear (Korean folksong) gets interrupted by a Test Of The Emergency Broadcast System.

I generally love XM, but they still have a few bugs to work out.
Gromit | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 10:43 am | #


Rather Mantovanni-ish treatment anyway, a letdown after a brilliant concert. surprisingly good hall, acoutically.


GravatarToby: Are you responsible for the utterances of all of your friends? I've heard Wright at his church. He has used incendiary language, but most of what he says is not all that different from what lots of people, both on the right and the left, say. You might want to read the NY Times piece today on him.

Obama has put some daylight between himself and the most extreme of Wright's statements. It would be good if McCain did the same thing with Hagee, who among other things has called the Catholic Church the whore of Babylon, and who wants a preemptive nuclear strike on the Middle East.


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A friend sent me something from the WaPo that non-German Ph.D.'s who call themselves "Dr" are breaking the law! At a few colleges I know of, nobody goes by "Dr", because it's just assumed everyone (even the secretaries, janitors and first year students) has one.


Oooo, I'm a lawbreaker!

I started going by Dr. D because I adjuncgted for so long. It didn't seem right to have students call me "professor" when I wasn't.


Gravatarfyt and made your life more interesting in the process:

This is the first weekend I don't have to pant!

(I do, however, have to clean paint off the floor.)


GravatarMolly, that's ok. I didn't mean to sound picky.


GravatarAnyhow, they stopped that.
JR, kerosene and a match


I believe you. I only know what I read in the newspapers.

/tip o' the Alcoa chapeau™ to Will Rogers


GravatarMany non-employees get 1099s. Nothing withheld, but carrying the obligation to pay taxes plus payroll tax (both portions) at tax time. And in some cases, the requirement to pay estimated taxes quarterly.

Voluntary backup withholding. Does not change your contractor status, and you pick the percentage. It goes in monthly along with the company's regular WH, and is filed annually on their form 945, and noted on the 1099.


GravatarWhat giant mega-corporation owns the organic brand of food you are buying.

http://awesome.goodmagazine.com/ ...ingorganic.html


GravatarPia Zadora broke my heart.

http://images.gittigidiyor.com/2...9/ 2194643_0.jpg


GravatarGee, and Toby thought so highly of Senator Obama before this Wright thing came out.


GravatarSorry, Derbes, but the two situations are not comparable to anyone but a libtard partisan.

BHO is steeped in that gall. McCain simply thanked Mr. Biblethumper, upbraided him a bit, and then moved on.


Gravatarleibniz♘☮

The picture of you playing the piano at a wedding completely destroyed my image of you.

I had visualized you more as Danny DeVito or Wallace Shawn now it's Tim "Frank-N-Furter" Curry.


GravatarI believe you. I only know what I read in the newspapers.


The change was recent, which is probably why it was in the news.


GravatarNew Richard Price book out ...

Even Michiko liked it.


GravatarGuess Toby doesn't read HuffPo.


GravatarWhat giant mega-corporation owns the organic brand of food you are buying.

http://awesome.goodmagazine.com/ ...ingorganic.html
Doug


I don't think GM owns Bill & Leona's farm. In fact, I know they don't.


Gravatarand HAPPY BIRTHDAY, TREAD!

outta here.




GravatarIt has been changed to Non-European Ph.D's.

Dr. Maddow was talking about this yesterday.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


A-HA! It don't affect me, cuz mine is from the decidedly European University o' Edinburgh, Scotland!

pfffft! to the bigwigs o' Berlin!


GravatarAnyone not entiteled to use "Dr" in Germany in official situations wuold have the "PhD" appended afterwards, it wasn't like the degree itself was not recognized.


GravatarRather Mantovanni-ish treatment anyway, a letdown after a brilliant concert. surprisingly good hall, acoutically.

Yes, the orchestra sounded fabulous, though it was clearly a program designed-to-not-possibly-offend-anyone.

Listening to the Korean translations of Mazel's in-concert comments, we noticed that the Korean didn't include the words "Gershwin" or "Dvorak". we wondered if North Koreans now think the New World Symphony and An American in Paris were written by Kim Jong Il.


GravatarSo RIL, are we going to that thing tonight, or are you going to stand me up yet again?


GravatarI think Obama's partisans should stand up and agree that Obama's associations with Wright are a demonstration of his shit judgement.

You will not see liberal to moderate white Christian women voting for that guy. Not in the South.


GravatarEgad, how time flies. Good luck, Sally; joy and cake, Hecate. Bye for now.


GravatarTKK,

I'll go, but do we need tickets for that?

I bet every wingnut from here to the Delaware Water Gap is going to show up for that thing. It ought to be pretty raucous.


GravatarI think ....
Toby Petzold


Evidence?


GravatarI read that thing yesterday, Molly. One of your friends here hipped me to the link.

It is full of qualifications and conditions. A real lawyerly weasel of a statement.


GravatarSorry, Derbes, but the two situations are not comparable to anyone but a libtard partisan.
Toby Petzold


Sorry, Toby, but the situations are identical to anyone who has an iota of objectivity.

Did you know that liberals are more polite than conservatives, Mr. Petzold?


Gravatar I'll go, but do we need tickets for that?

I think it's first come first served


Gravatar(pictures German philosopher Liebniz in bustier and thigh-highs)


Gravatarleibniz♘☮

The picture of you playing the piano at a wedding completely destroyed my image of you.

I had visualized you more as Danny DeVito or Wallace Shawn now it's Tim "Frank-N-Furter" Curry.


6 feet tall when I don't slouch. And I used to get told I sounded like Jimmy Stewart.


GravatarYou will not see liberal to moderate white Christian women voting for that guy. Not in the South.

All six of them.


GravatarHello again peeps,

Hecate, it's your birthday? Felicitations!


GravatarYou will not see liberal to moderate white Christian women voting for that guy. Not in the South.
Toby Petzold


Wanna bet?


GravatarJake, I guess the Big Story suffered from Little Ratings.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 03.15.08 - 11:12 am | #


Yeah, I must say I'm surprised that Fox is screwing around with their schedule. They never do that. All the same, though, the guy was a tool and good riddance.


GravatarI think it's first come first served

Alright. It's at 7 PM, right? Want me to meet you outside the joint at 6:40 PM?


GravatarHow about McBombBomb's active seeking out of the totally nutzoid Tim LeHaye's endorsement?


GravatarIn the three different responses I have seen from the Obama campaign, Wright is described in each as newly retired and no longer in charge.

Subliminal way of saying he's really, really far removed from Obama the Christ.


GravatarDavid Derbes, writin' away

Want to kill another thread on "light"?

Where does light come from in combustion and how many properties does it have in common with "sunlight"?

Photons? Extinguishing at a distance vs. starlight going on forever in a vacuum? Association or instrinsically connected to heat?


GravatarIt is full of qualifications and conditions. A real lawyerly weasel of a statement.

It was a clarification and a distancing, much more emphatic than McCain's.


GravatarHappy Birthday, Hecate!
Eat cake!


Gravatarsome incense would be welcome today.

How old fashioned. Get modern;
Plug & Pray...


GravatarAssociation or instrinsically connected to heat?
Gimlet


You've never polished silver, have you?


GravatarDerbes:

Sorry, Toby, but the situations are identical to anyone who has an iota of objectivity.

Did McCain name his autobiography after one of his Hagee's sermons?

Don't make me laugh, objectivity.


GravatarUnder a 1930s law from Nazi times, only people with Ph.D.'s and medical degrees from German universities can use "Dr." as a title, though the law was amended in 2001 to include degrees from EU countries too. (There is a way for non-EU degree holders to apply for permission to use the titles, but apparently, it's not worth the trouble.)

Recently, seven Americans -- all researchers at institutes of Germany's prestigious Max Planck Society -- were investigated for title abuse. One was an astrophysicist with a Ph.D. from Caltech. Another, Ian Thomas Baldwin, has a Ph.D. from Cornell. His colleagues have been calling him "Prof. Dr. Baldwin" for a decade, but apparently, the law says he instead should be "Prof. Ian Thomas Baldwin, Ph.D., Cornell University." (It looks like his Web page is in compliance, thank goodness.)

Honorifics are taken quite seriously in Germany, reports the Washington Post. (If any of you who have lived in Germany know about this sensitivity, please feel free to leave a comment.) Fortunately, though, prosecutors have now recommended against filing charges, but the Americans could still face a civil fine.

Meanwhile, German officials recently suggested changing the law to allow the "Dr." title to be used by people with Ph.D.'s and medical degrees from U.S. universities, but only if the university is one of the approximately 200 accredited by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching.


GravatarAll six of them.

I was going with three, but yeah.


GravatarOn the plus side, talking science usually makes Tobes disapper.


GravatarResponding to Toby? rilly?


GravatarI'm a white American and a lapsed Catholic, but I'm much more offended by Hagee than by Wright.


GravatarGimlet, I gots finals this week, workin' on two books (one mine, one not) and my kid's back from Baltimore, Jack. I'm away for a while, and I just can't.

All light has basically the same properties, no matter how generated, differing only in polarization, wavelength and frequency, and maybe speed depending on the medium. Oh, and coherence (laser light is coherent; most light is not coherent.)

Time was that light was the visible stuff, distinguished from radio waves, microwaves, infra-red, ultra-violet, x-rays and gamma rays. Feynman, a maestro of simplicity, refers to all that stuff as "light". The stuff we see is "visible light".

See his "QED: The strange theory of light and electrons". Suitable for any educated person, very little math.


GravatarMy masters degree only gets me called "Frau Magister Marcellina" when my name is called in the doctor's waiting room.


GravatarOn the plus side, talking science usually makes Tobes disapper.
Gimlet


Yeah, but that was physics.


GravatarMolly:

It was a clarification and a distancing, much more emphatic than McCain's.

We do not get to revise and extend our lives, madame.


GravatarLate Thursday, a U.S. House of Representatives Democrat on the Science and Technology Committee, which Gates addressed, introduced a bill that would double the number of H-1B visas and remove other restrictions from 2008 onward. Then, on Friday, a key House Republican followed with his own proposal for "emergency" relief. His plan: tripling the visa cap.

H-1Bs allow foreigners with at least a bachelor's degree in their area of specialty to be employed in the United States for up to six years. Right now, the cap stands at 65,000, with another 20,000 for foreigners with advanced degrees from U.S. schools.


it's bullshit, because they hire H1B's at a much lower average rate than americans...thanks dems, giveaways to corporations while we eat cake


Gravatar Alright. It's at 7 PM, right? Want me to meet you outside the joint at 6:40 PM?

Can do. Should we go earlier though?


GravatarDon't make me laugh, objectivity.
Toby Petzold


You're right, Toby, no one here thinks you have any, but I was just being polite.


GravatarMeanwhile, German officials recently suggested changing the law to allow the "Dr." title to be used by people with Ph.D.'s and medical degrees from U.S. universities, but only if the university is one of the approximately 200 accredited by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching.

Well, that's slightly unfair.


GravatarI can't say I 've ever seen mccainus, the great white godly warrior prince, toby's loving white knight, even near a church.


GravatarCan do. Should we go earlier though?
The Kenosha Kid


I could make 6:30 PM, not earlier than that. I got stuff to do.


GravatarYou will not see liberal to moderate white Christian women voting for that guy. Not in the South.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:20 am | #

Those idiots in the South are why we're losing three wars, the economy, and our standing in the world. Obama should do the opposite of what you're advising, since you have been so completely and totally backasswards wrong on everything in the last 6 years. Obama should embrace the truth of his pastor, who told it exactly like it is. You racists should slink back into your gutters, where you won't constantly shame the real Americans here.


GravatarIf it's green or it wiggles, it's biology
If it smells bad or blows up, it's chemistry
If it doesn't work, it's physics


Gravatarhey peeps


GravatarLater, gators.


GravatarFor those Philly bound
the ultimate cheesesteaks
(do not go to Pats and especially not the racist Genos)

http://www.610wip.com/pages/351421.php


Gravatar
Meanwhile, German officials recently suggested changing the law to
allow the "Dr." title to be used by people with Ph.D.'s and medical
degrees from U.S. universities, but only if the university is one of
the approximately 200 accredited by the Carnegie Foundation for the
Advancement of Teaching.

So generous.
Sui generis.


GravatarEveryone to a man and woman on the morning line up on Fox economic news shows are in agreement that Obama has pretty much destroyed his chance of winning in November due to the Jeremiah Wright fiasco. God does indeed love the GOP.


Gravatarronjazz, I didn't know you were a [person of color].

Guess what. I don't owe you jack shit. Not even a mule, you racist.


Gravatari'm not a doctor, but i'd play one on tv


Gravatar
I could make 6:30 PM, not earlier than that. I got stuff to do.


Okely dokely. Enjoy scraping paint off your floor.


GravatarGood point, Gimlet.

And I'll answer some of your earlier question, in no particular order. The ql's will be there (mr. & mrs), CoT, res ipsa, billyb, watertiger, Hecate, bunter, Brooklyn Girl, simels, me, Thers, the Gromits (Mr. & Dr. Mrs.), The Gummos, NTodd, Atrios, Carter, HBK (I think?), Sopcko, spork, uh, and maybe 60 others...


GravatarDavid Derbes, writin' away

Oh well. Another Saturday then. Your expression of these concepts is always so "illuminating".


GravatarIt is full of qualifications and conditions. A real lawyerly weasel of a statement.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:21 am | #

In other words, you could understand in perfectly, being a republican shill and tool of the fascists. Your government is proud of its lies, as is your propagandizing media. As unAmerican as any of our enemies, and far more dangerous. thanks for 9/11, assholes!


GravatarDid you know McDonalds is giving out tiaras in Happy Meals right now?

There is something troubling about that.
res ipsa loquitur, ginchy


Deep fried, like everything else, right?


GravatarOkay, now two of Wingnuttia's MENSA reps are here, so I'm gonna go scrape paint off the floor.

See you at 6:30, TKK.


GravatarGromit, next Saturday I'll talk your ears off if you like. Alas I won't be in Philadelphia, except in spirit...

Now I'm outta here... пошёл, for NTodd, if he's around...


GravatarResponding to Toby? rilly?

His faux support for HRC pisses me off. But I'll stop now.

And if we don't get to revise our lives, I guess we can go back and look at Bush's TANG records and arrests.


Gravatarronjazz, how is a statement from Obama a perfect distillation of Rethuglikkkan fascism?

Your shit is done, G.


GravatarIf it's green or it wiggles, it's biology
If it smells bad or blows up, it's chemistry
If it doesn't work, it's physics
JR, kerosene and a match


If it just don't add up, it's math...

[runs away very fast]


GravatarCan do. Should we go earlier though?
The Kenosha Kid

I could make 6:30 PM, not earlier than that. I got stuff to do.
res ipsa loquitur, ginchy |


6:40pm tonight...


GravatarMy faux support?! I voted for her!


GravatarIf it just don't add up, it's math...

if it just lies there, it's political


GravatarNah, W was "born again." Just saying that gives you a pass on every evil thing that you've ever done in your life previously.


GravatarWe do not get to revise and extend our lives, madame.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:29 am | #

certainly the most ignorant statement made here thus far this year, given the down-the-memory-hole handling of Bush's desertion, drug abuse, drunkenness and abortion support for his girlfriend. Oh, yeah, and statutory rape. Toby, you're too stupid to get away with such transparent lies.


GravatarDid you know McDonalds is giving out tiaras in Happy Meals right now?

There is something troubling about that.
res ipsa loquitur, ginchy

Deep fried, like everything else, right?
Elmer, PHD (horrible)


MoDo is gonna balloon!


Gravatardirk gently, sociopathetic , is your house/neighborhood intact?


GravatarNTodd is at an undisclosed location this weekend.


GravatarOh, ronjazz owes me a coke!

(And you're black? Who knew? I must have met you in your "White Like Me" phase.)


GravatarDid you know McDonalds is giving out tiaras in Happy Meals right now?

don't be mean. fat girls can be princesses too.


GravatarIf it's green or it wiggles, it's biology
If it smells bad or blows up, it's chemistry
If it doesn't work, it's physics

If it just don't add up, it's math...


If it won't sell, it's an English dissertation
If it gets you arrested, it's a dissertation published in Germany


GravatarWhat a litany, ronjazz. Sounds like you're taking it all too personally.

Rest up for the big game, hoss. You're gonna need all your energy to rush the barricades in Denver when HRC takes the prize.


GravatarObama only seems to be having a problem with the shrinking Faux demographic, who hated him anyway. Everyone else has already moved on, it appears. A one news cycle tempest in a disposable latte cup...


Gravatardon't be mean. fat girls can be princesses too.

Indeed, I am wearing a tiara right now. (Rosie's idea.)


GravatarDid you know McDonalds is giving out tiaras in Happy Meals right now?

My tiara has blinking lights and the word "bitch" on the front. True.


GravatarNo coffee yet is my only excuse for posting to a dead thread
I heard a back and forth this morning on NPR between Jim Webb and Sen Kyle from Arizone. Kyle claimed that a just released Gallup poll says that 65% of Americans now support staying in Iraq until the situation is stabilized.
Bad Art


What was their question? Do you want to cut and run and admit defeat or stay until the situation is stabilized?

I can't imagine their question was: $3 trillion and 4,000 American lives later Bush and the Republican warmongers still haven't managed to stabilize Iraq so shall we do whatever it takes to stabilize Iraq?


GravatarTibet update driveby:

Chinese state media itself now reports ten deaths in Lhasa --- both Tibetan and Han Chinese appear to have died --- Tibetan protests in other countries, including India and Nepal, violently suppressed by police (photos) --- Greek police suppress nonviolent protest at Mt. Olympus, where the Olympic flame will began its journey to Beijing --- German authorities force Tibetans and Germans to stop holding up a small Tibetan flag during a soccer match vs. China.

And in the middle of the growing tension, the U.S. has DELISTED China, for the first time in years, as a human rights offender!

News, Tibetan history, photos, AND CONTACT INFO FOR ALL CHINESE CONSULATES AND EMBASSIES IN THE U.S. and for the Olympic Organizers (who are sweating bullets over this) are at VichyDems. Please call, fax, and/or email a simple statement of support for the ethnic Tibetans, and tell them the world is watching.

(P.S.: I don't care about hits. Links would be very much appreciated -- both to spread the availability of this contact info, and to boost my Technorati "authority" enough to get me blogger press credentials to the Dem convention in Denver. But far more importantly, please consider at least shooting an email to the Chinese saying "the world is watching." Thanks!)


GravatarIf it's green or it wiggles, it's biology
If it smells bad or blows up, it's chemistry
If it doesn't work, it's physics
JR, kerosene and a match


The second grader participated in the science fair this week. Her experiment: chalk in water. Will it dissolve faster in hot or cold water? Will wrapping it in tape prevent it from dissolving?

It didn't dissolve, didn't work, I guess that makes it physics

And the damn folks who packed everything up, dumped it all out. So my plan to make next year's science project be "chalk in water: one year later," were foiled (and the 7yo was quite upset that they wrecked her experiment...)


GravatarJust consider that: HRC supporters owe a debt of gratitude to people like me for giving her Texas.

Until the party rules made it a gain for BHO.

Never mind that!


GravatarSometimes I wonder if it is The Great Orange junior high school.


Gravatardirk gently, sociopathetic , is your house/neighborhood intact?
mer | 03.15.08 - 11:38 am | #


yes, thanks - we're a ways north from ground zero, just thunderstorms here. i asked my son who lives downtown if his block was intact and he said "yeah, but it's about the only one" - he's got power back but no cable or dsl or landline phone. more storms on the way.

not enough rain to roll back the drought much, though.


GravatarHecate: about three billion years ago, a star collapsed into a supernova and produced a quasar. For the next three billion years, its light traveled through space, likely traversing millions of planets capable of bearing life. Because it's moving away from us, its light is a little shifted to the red, so we know how fast it's going; because of its collapse, we know how massive with respect to the sun it is, even at extreme sapcetime distances. We even know what it was made of, how hot it was, all by looking at its light.

And of all those photons, over all that time, over all that distance, a few of them are lucky enough, on this day, to illuminate you on your birthday.

Don't waste a one of 'em...


Gravatarronjazz isn't black; he's post-American.


GravatarObama only seems to be having a problem with the shrinking Faux demographic, who hated him anyway. Everyone else has already moved on, it appears. A one news cycle tempest in a disposable latte cup...
Tralfaz

Fox News is bent on destroying the guy who handily beats their lobbyist fucking, Bush hugging, good old boy Insane McCain? Who wudda thunk it?


GravatarIf it's green or it wiggles, it's biology
If it smells bad or blows up, it's chemistry


if it's yellow, let it mellow
if it's brown, flush it down

(sorry, got thinking about the drought)


GravatarSo my plan to make next year's science project be "chalk in water: one year later," were foiled

heh.

Ever heard of the "pitch drop" experiment?

Started in 1927...


Gravatarwe know how massive with respect to the sun it is, even at extreme sapcetime distances. We even know what it was made of, how hot it was, all by looking at its light.

Was it for Clinton or Obama?


GravatarDoes anyone really want to stay "until the situation is stabilized" without any evaluation of whether it ever will be?

The Romans destroyed Jerusalem and began the Jewish diaspora in the first century. Violence in the region directly resulting from that historical event is occurring in the 21st century. That's 2,000 years. That ethnic/religious conflict outlasted not only the Pax Romana (ie, "troops stabilizing the situation"), but the Roman Empire itself.

So first ask: CAN it be stabilized by force? If not, can it be stabilized by letting tensions work themselves out in the absence of outside interference, or in any other way? Can it be stabilized at all?

Give me definitive answers to these questions, then we can talk "cut and run."


GravatarIsn't it gonna suck when we find out that life exists virtually everywhere in the Universe and that it all evolved into pretty much the same forms as here? Symmetrical, quadrapedal, upright, hydrophilic, air-breathing, etc.?

Oh, wait! That will be a GREAT day!

Never mind. Mind and the life from which it springs in inherent in the very geometry of the Universe.


GravatarDid you know McDonalds is giving out tiaras in Happy Meals right now?

Does that come with or without lead paint?


GravatarRest up for the big game, hoss. You're gonna need all your energy to rush the barricades in Denver when HRC takes the prize.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:40 am | #

well, i'm glad 8you're seeing a little light. i don't care which one of the dems "takes the prize", as long as we clean oput the runny shit of the republican failures. i'm merely pointing out that y8our racist, anti-black, frightened little screeds are based on your racism and fright, and nothing else. Personally, i hope whoever gets the Dem nod uses the same tactics on the traitor coward McStain as your side has used to destroy this democracy. it woiud be good for America to have mcStain exposed as the liar and hypocrite he is, a common thief, and a shitstain on the country, as all you repigs have become. you, as is your custom, are entirely wrong about me, and everything else. You become ever more irrelevant, as the nation takes back its freedoms and its pride from your kind. Perhaps in two or three years you will be justifiably ashamed to have supported and modern-day Hitler and his sociopathic henchmen, but your history of misogyny and dog-burning gives little indication that you will suddenly become a functioning human being instead of a scum-sucking savage.


Gravatarhttp://www.mindfully.org/Reform/ ...ight23feb03.htm

This is the Rev Wright IQ test on going to war in Iraq.

It's very good and makes Shrub looks even dumber


Gravatarronjazz is anti-American, too. He believes in thoughtcrimes.


GravatarSometimes I wonder if it is The Great Orange junior high school.

Do you like me?

[]yes
[]no


GravatarIsn't it gonna suck when we find out that life exists virtually everywhere in the Universe and that it all evolved into pretty much the same forms as here? Symmetrical, quadrapedal, upright, hydrophilic, air-breathing, etc.?


Yep, Tobes is a Creationist.


GravatarT.D.,
Thanks for the info.

Just awful.


GravatarWinter Soldier testimony continues today and tomorrow:

http://ivaw.org/
http://www.freespeech.org/fscm2/...x.php? name=home
http://www.democracynow.org/
http://www.livevideo.com/video/e...aq- afghani.aspx
Also:
Dish Network: Channel 9415.


GravatarProf Wombat,

Here is the converse, one quote I have remembered for decades:

The fact that that late day light had traveled 93 million miles to land on her face made me sick, made me sympathize with the wasted trip of a lot of photons.


Goya's Lo Peor Es Pedir (The worst thing is to beg).


GravatarAnd of all those photons, over all that time, over all that distance, a few of them are lucky enough, on this day, to illuminate you on your birthday.

And the red-shifted ones give her that healthy, rosy glow.


GravatarSo generous.
Sui generis.

Barmpot Shouty-Crackers, PhD | 03.15.08 - 11:32 am | #


Paul Thereaux once wrote about Zen something like: Japanese teaching about relaxation is as improbable as Germans teaching respect for other cultures or Americans teaching about modest goals.


GravatarWhy don't you projectors of soft power abroad wise up and jump on the bandwagon? Don't you want to trade with the Iraqis? Wouldn't you love to spend a weekend looking into the eyes of a delicious young Iranian woman? Don't you want to spend some time in the Cradle of Civilization?


Gravatar Saturn moon 'once had ocean'


Science reporter, BBC News, Houston

One of Saturn's moons may once have harboured a liquid ocean beneath its icy surface, scientists have told a major conference in Houston, Texas.

Tethys is a mid-sized satellite with a density close to that of pure ice.

But a large valley system visible today must have formed when the crust was being heated and under great strain.

The team thinks that tidal heating, followed by cooling which froze Tethys' ocean, could have formed the giant Ithaca Chasma rift.


GravatarFucking photons, always bouncing around where they aren't wanted.

[/darkroom tech]


GravatarLife springs from the mind?

Not a lot of evidence for that, and a great deal of evidence for the converse.

Recalls to me the immortal word of that great philosopher of science, Damon Runyon: the race is not always to the swift, nor the contest of strength to the strong, but that's the way to bet.


Gravatarronjazz is anti-American, too. He believes in thoughtcrimes.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:48 am | #

Not so, that's your putrid party. I do know that traitors like you should be jailed and exiled, especiall cowards who refuse to support the wars they jerk off over.

Thanks for 9/11.


GravatarWorth repeating often_

Here's what your Christian president and man of faith gives us this week:

BEIJING, March 12 -- Human rights activists on Wednesday decried the U.S. State Department's decision to drop China from its list of the world's worst human rights violators, saying that China's crackdown on dissent is getting worse as it prepares to host the Olympic Games in August.


And someone should yell loud and clear that Christians are also victims of the PRK, not just Buddhists.


GravatarDon't you want to spend some time in the Cradle of Civilization?


That would be in Turkey, you idjit.


GravatarAnd of all those photons
Instead of Mac vs PC or Hillary vs Barack we could argue waves vs particles.


GravatarI said Mind comes from Life. It is inherent.


GravatarPresident Carter pulled the US Olympic team from the USSR olympics in the 1970s after they invaded Afghanistan.

Bushboy will do no such thing, no matter how brutally China suppresses Tibetan dissent and continues to occupy and oppress that country.

Carter had intelligence and decency. Bushboy has none.


GravatarLooks like they switched the troll's meds to LSD.


GravatarExpert on teevee now on the stock market:

"Don't panic. Look, you have to be in the market."

"This is time to buy."


GravatarWell, the Japanese did give rather a weird warlike spin to zen.


GravatarGod Damn Obama !!!! Bet he has the flag lapel pin back quite soon !!!!! What a Punk........


GravatarRecalls to me the immortal word of that great philosopher of science, Damon Runyon: the race is not always to the swift, nor the contest of strength to the strong, but that's the way to bet.
ProfWombat


That reminds me of the saying from evolutionary biology. "You don't have to be the fastest antelope. Second from slowest will do."


GravatarDon't you want to spend some time in the Cradle of Civilization?
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:50 am | #

is that what passes for irony in your piss-addled brain? when will you become a patriot and a man and go defend your principles? Oh, that's right, never. You're a coward to the bone.


GravatarWell, the Japanese did give rather a weird warlike spin to zen.
leibniz


Thumbs through "Five Rings".

Oh yeah.


GravatarSmith Barney guy, now:

"You should invest in areas where earnings are increasing.
Clearly, there aren't many of those right now."


jeesus


Gravatar"Don't panic. Look, you have to be in the market."

"This is time to buy."
Culture of TrÜth


"Coincidentally, I have some cool stuff to sell you..."


GravatarAre we talking about the Republican powerbrokers dissing on Obama? I'm shocked, shocked!

Fox News THREW HILLARY A CAMPAIGN FUNDRAISER, for God's sake! Check the photo of Rupert Murdoch of Fox News and Hillary, BFF.


Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:54 am | #


GravatarI said Mind comes from Life. It is inherent.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:52 am | #

Your existence puts that staement into jeopardy.


GravatarSecond from slowest will do

The second mouse gets the cheese.


Gravatarand that it all evolved into pretty much the same forms as here? Symmetrical, quadrapedal, upright, hydrophilic, air-breathing, etc.?

you mean, evolved in such a way that in order to survive one creature has to slaughter another, ingest it, and turn it to shit?

yeah, that will be wonderful.


GravatarTobes doesn't even know whre Anatolia is. And he's a Creationist.

What a maroon.


GravatarRudy: to be fair to Bush (I know, I know), the Soviet Union in Carter's time was an easier object of opposition than today's China, which holds a trillion or two of Mr. Washington's finest portraits in reserve, and to which we've outsourced the bulk of our manufacturing.

An explanation, not an excuse, of course.


Gravatarher whiskeyness - knitting wool is on its way.


Gravatar"This is time to buy."
Culture of TrÜth |


otherwise, i'll have no one to sell to!


GravatarI recall that Bushboy thought putting Social Security payments into the stock market was a "great idea."

He even wanted to make it law.

But you don't hear the depraved moron recycling that idea lately. I wonder why?


GravatarDon't panic. Look, you have to be in the market.
It doesn't get much cheaper than Enron stock.

The real buy signal will be when that analyst is on one of the money pr0n shows telling people to get out of the market.


GravatarThanks, Molly. You're absolutely right, Trout, and I'm gonna do a blog on it after the weekend, when I can call my gubmint.

Chinese embassy and Olympic organizer contact info on my site (link in the info below). Tell them the world's watching. Email links, even.


GravatarKeep Hating America, 'bama. Yeahhh!!!! That's the ticket !!!!

Nice strategy.......


GravatarRelax.

Deep Breath.


Gravatar/cues harp

It's a beautiful morning!


GravatarDamn it. PRC not K. Too many despots for one moran to track.


GravatarBut you don't hear the depraved moron recycling that idea lately. I wonder why?
Rudy | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:56 am | #

well, he was recognized as a complete idiot for that, and slapped around pretty good, so maybe he's just afraid, as Republicans tend to be.


GravatarTobes - Pearls of wisdom from the pulpit of Dubya MBA Harvard, yesterday CEO of Arbusto, today President of the USA.


"Many young couples trying to buy their first home have been priced out of the market because of inflated prices," the president said. "The market now is in the process of correcting itself, and delaying that correction would only prolong the problem."

Bush said his administration has offered steps offering flexibility for refinancing to homeowners with good credit histories yet are having trouble paying their mortgage. He cited other measures which he said would streamline the process for refinancing and modify many mortgages.

He said there were steps Congress could take, as well.

"As we take decisive action, we will keep this in mind: When you are steering a car in a rough patch, one of the worst things you can do is overcorrect," the president said.

"That often results in losing control and can end up with the car in a ditch," Bush said. "Steering through a rough patch requires a steady hand on the wheel and your eyes up on the horizon. And that's exactly what we're going to do."


GravatarOh look, we have two authoritarian submissives today. Isn't that sweet!


Gravatarher whiskeyness - knitting wool is on its way.
Barmpot Shouty-Crackers, PhD


Thanks very much, Auntie. The 7yo will be thrilled.

The girls both practiced their 'half-seat' at horse lessons yesterday, then we came home & watched 'National Velvet' for family movie night!


GravatarDeep Breath.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


want i should help you with some shallow ones?


GravatarAn explanation, not an excuse, of course.
ProfWombat

Yessir! Proving once again that, "Money talks, nobody walks."


GravatarToby: your post above said, 'Mind and the life from which it springs'. Then you said 'Mind comes from life'. Seems to me that either you contradict yourself, you misspoke in one of these posts, or you're making a deeper point you should enlarge upon.


GravatarOh look, we have two authoritarian submissives today. Isn't that sweet!
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 11:58 am | #

Neither one in Iraq. How surprising.


GravatarNo, I'm guessing Bush will see SS money as a way to bail the market.


Gravatar"That often results in losing control and can end up with the car in a ditch," Bush said.

Who wrote that speech? Laura?


Gravatarwant i should help you with some shallow ones?

I'm a born-again virgin.


GravatarAre we talking about how China could crash the entire U.S. economy just by abstaining from buying bonds at our next weekly auction? Are we really talking about that? Because I don't think the government wants us talking about that.

Sucks how the Republicans have indebted us to the point where we can't afford to stand for freedom in places like Tibet.


Gravataror you're making a deeper point you should enlarge upon.
ProfWombat | 03.15.08 - 11:58 am | #

Bwahahaha! Good one, Prof!


GravatarI'm a born-again virgin.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


perfect!

how many times can you do that?


GravatarIt's true we have little leverage against China as regards Tibet. One interpretation of this is that Bush has spent any and all of the world power we had built up. We have lost many decades of incremental achievements in human rights. We can't blame the Chinese for killing monks when we bomb weddings from 15,000 feet. We have lost our standing by having a butcher as a president.


GravatarVicki! Good morning, darlin' (for 5 more minutes)


GravatarRudy: economists seem rather proud, often, of the notion that their discipline can be applied to reality in a value-neutral way. They're wrong, of course; everything is a choice, not all choices are rational or measurable or quantifiable, and all have consequences in real life, to real people.


GravatarDon't eat the potato salad; I heard it killed a whole congregation once at a church picnic.


GravatarAre we talking about how China could crash the entire U.S. economy just by abstaining from buying bonds at our next weekly auction? Are we really talking about that? Because I don't think the government wants us talking about that.

If that happens where will we get the tiaras for the Happy Meals?


GravatarHer Whiskeyness: I think I like you.


Gravatar
BERLIN - Austrian leaders urged their countrymen yesterday not to dismiss the Nazi past as no longer relevant, at a special session of parliament marking the 70th anniversary of the "Anschluss" annexation.

The session was to be followed after nightfall by a silent candle-lit vigil in Heldenplatz (Heroes Square) in the heart of Vienna, where huge crowds once cheered Hitler's return to his homeland at the head of Nazi legions.
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On March 12, 1938, tens of thousands of Wehrmacht troops crossed the German border into Austria, sent by Adolf Hitler at the request of the Nazis' Austrian partners, to ensure a smooth takeover.


GravatarMan...it's a New Jerseyrific weekend here. Broooce in town tomorrow, Bon Jovi on Tuesday, and Jersey Boys opening sometime this week.

What did we do to warrant this?


GravatarBut Saddam gassed his own people!

(and the same people are now being killed by Turkey, but we need airspace access so that doesn't count)


Gravatar

Good morning, everyone.



I need some frijoles and guac.


GravatarObama only seems to be having a problem with the shrinking Faux demographic, who hated him anyway. Everyone else has already moved on, it appears. A one news cycle tempest in a disposable latte cup...
Tralfaz


I certainly hope so but fear that Ari's 527 already has a commercial in the can with BHO in Arab garb and the pastor's comments in the background. Will give anyone who wants one an excuse not to vote for BHO.


GravatarI'm a born-again virgin.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


In what area?


GravatarBruce is fabulous in concert. Enjoy!


GravatarContinued...

Some 80,000 candles were to be lit in Heldenplatz, representing each Austrian killed under Nazi tyranny - including the 65,000 Jews.

The Austrian leaders' public contrition reawakened the discussion about the extent to which Austrians were victims of Nazism or willing accomplices. Most Austrians now agree, after decades of denial, that they were deeply complicit in the Nazi machinery of war and genocide.

"We cannot draw a line under the past because the events of 1938-'45 retain resonance today," said parliament President Barbara Prammer, referring to polls in which 60 percent of Austrians were weary of talk about the past. A quarter of those age 14 to 24 still yearned for a "strong leader," the poll found.

The post-war position that Austrians were victims of Hitler had proven to be "a fiction of history", she said. But Austria only "belatedly acknowledged injustices" done in its name by agreeing to a reparations fund for Jews within the past decade.

Chancellor Alfred Gusenbauer and President Heinz Fischer presided over the special parliamentary session of soul-searching speeches about Hitler's annexation of Austria - a decidedly dark chapter in the nation's history.

Gusenbauer said no amount of restitution would ever make amends. "No compensation can ever diminish the wrong that the Nazis did to our Jewish fellow citizens," he said, adding: "No payoff can undo the inexcusable."

"I can only humbly beg survivors and their relatives to accept this gesture for what it is: a trifling acknowledgment of the injustice that was done to you," Gusenbauer told the assembly.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/ 963889.html


GravatarHas there ever been anyone more unfit for the office of POTUS than Bushboy in all America's history?

I know that Buchanan, Grant and Harding were grossly incompetent as presidents, but none compare to Bushboy or the horrendous legacy he will leave behind.


GravatarHer Whiskeyness: I think I like you.
T.D. Scott (formerly T2)


how can there be any doubt?

one of my favorite people, named for one of my favorite things.


GravatarHer Whiskeyness: I think I like you.
T.D. Scott (formerly T2) |


Have we met?


GravatarAre we talking about how China could crash the entire U.S. economy

That one cuts two ways right now.


GravatarThere are things I hate about this country. There are things I love about this country. One doesn't exclude the other.

It simply isn't possible to take any other position, except through ignorance or denial.


Gravatarafternoon moonbats from a rather grey and wet Devizes


Gravatarhey Vicki: how's your bodacious self this morning?


Gravatarbig strike over at dkos - it seems the hill bots have had it with the accurate commentary on the clinton campaign


GravatarGotta get to work,
later, beautiful people.


GravatarA tornado in an urban downtown? You don't see that very often.


GravatarIt simply isn't possible to take any other position, except through ignorance or denial.
ProfWombat


what about scorched downward facing dog?


GravatarStill no luck in the haloscan department. I can only surmise their servers are blocking my home ip, as I can't even ping their numeric ip. But why? Who to call?


GravatarOh no! It's the ides of March!


GravatarA tornado in an urban downtown? You don't see that very often.
Zap Rowsdower |


at the dome during a basketball game, no less.

mrs g points out that it is rare to see basketball called for weather.


GravatarStill no luck in the haloscan department. I can only surmise their servers are blocking my home ip, as I can't even ping their numeric ip. But why? Who to call?
sidhra


I dubt that.

Are yuo trying to access from the same physical computer all the time?

Have you tried resetting the modem and router to factory defaults?


GravatarJaysus fuck, I can't type today.

If you've done any customizing, don't do the reset thing until last.


GravatarOh no! It's the ides of March!
George Johnston


happens every year.


GravatarIf America had not been bamboozled and scammed into voting for Nixxxon instead of Humphrey in 1968, the American people would be far better off today.

If America had not been bamboozled and scammed into letting the USSC appoint Bushboy to the WH in 2000, the American people would be far better off today. To say nothing of the Iraqi people and billions of others worldwide.


GravatarThey tell us that
We lost our tails
Evolving up
From little snails
I say it's all
Just wind in sails
Are we not men?
We are DEVO!
We're pinheads now


GravatarThe Ides of March

The day Julius Caesar committed suicide by stepping back onto a knife 23 times!

/jk


GravatarOne year the Latin class showed up with those gag knives....


Gravataris this the haloscan ip?

[72.9.234.71]

or something like it? they have more than one, you know, it's better to do it by name.


Gravatari wrote a post on it about 2 years ago - Ides of March


Gravatarmrs g points out that it is rare to see basketball called for weather.

Probably not since the days of using woven baskets as hoops.

Wholly crap...we live about a mile from a regional airport, and there's been nothing but large helicopters flying over us and rattling our windows for the last few weeks. Pissing me off.


GravatarMoon,

Dr. Barmy wants us to lobby you heavily for the Con. Can you beg for time off? We can probably provide frequent flyer miles and find you a roommate, plus sallyh can't come, so she offered to give you her registration.


Gravatarsidhra,
I may have a roommate for you.


GravatarMoon,

Dr. Barmy wants us to lobby you heavily for the Con. Can you beg for time off? We can probably provide frequent flyer miles and find you a roommate, plus sallyh can't come, so she offered to give you her registration.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 12:10 pm | #


it pains me to say it but i don't think I will be able to beg for time off

i've used my limit for the year


Gravatar[72.9.234.77] is the other haloscan ip - guess they only have two.

pissant little web farm.


GravatarA tornado in an urban downtown? You don't see that very often.

Not as uncommon as one would think.


Jacksonville FL 12 August 2004 F2
Fort Worth TX 28 March 2000 F2
Salt Lake City UT 11 August 1999 F2
Little Rock AR 21 January 1999 F3
Nashville TN 16 Apr 1998 F3
Miami FL 12 May 1997 F1
Houston TX 16 November 1993 F1
Huntsville AL 15 November 1989 F4
Shreveport/Bossier City LA December 1978 F4
Shreveport LA 17 April 1978 F2
Lubbock TX 11 May 1970 F5

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/torn...o/ downtown.html


Gravataris huntsville really "urban?"


Gravatarsidhra,
I may have a roommate for you.
Molly Ivors |


Embarrassingly, I don't have a room, either.

The fabulous procrastinator.


GravatarQuashing Rumors [John Derbyshire]

Say what you like about young Patrick O'Bama, but I have it on unimpeachable authority that the rumors about his having had some connection with Irish Republican Army terrorists are absolutely false.


Heh heh heh. More wingnut "humor."

You should hit the comedy circuit.


GravatarOooh...I'm getting excited for "da Con".


GravatarOkay, I gotta go put food on the hungry haniaks.


Gravatarthing is for the cost of flying there, it would be better for me to stay a week or so

for a weekend it doesn't seem worth it, considering i'd be coming all that distance

when i do visit foreign countries i like to spend a little longer

its just all a little bit rushed and short noticed for me

plus with my mum and sister on holiday someone has to keep the house running smoothly and cats fed and my father isn't that type

just not the right time for me at the moment


GravatarFYI:

There's an airport shuttle for folks staying at the Marriott. I think it's like 10 bucks, or something.


GravatarSucks how the Republicans have indebted us to the point where we can't afford to stand for freedom in places like Tibet.
T.D. Scott (formerly T2) | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 12:00 pm | #

Not surprising. Republicans have fought against America and its principles since the Revolution. They fought against freedom for all, womens' suffrage, child labor laws, unions, free markets, everything that has made America strong and respected in the world.


GravatarHave we met?

I wish! It's just that combo of kids, horses and whiskey...


GravatarGod Damn Obama !!!! Bet he has the flag lapel pin back quite soon !!!!! What a Punk........


Lapel pin.

I suspect tossy here is a parody trool.


GravatarTop fundraisers for Hillary Clinton have begun to exert direct and personal pressure on DNC chair Howard Dean, urging him to show more leadership to bring about some sort of resolution to the Florida and Michigan vote standoffs.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkin...pointsmemo.com/

I thought Dean showed some leadership when he warned the state parties in MI and FL against moving their primaries up. They ignored him. As far as I'm concerned, they fucked up and have to live with it.


Gravatarsidhra,
Do you want whiskeygirl's email?


GravatarDon't forget, though, that the freedom-loving Republicans fought for the freedom of children in New Orleans to contract to work at whatever the market would bear!


Gravatargot corned beef, cabbage, potatoes, guiness. I am set for Monday.


GravatarSigning off, folks. Visit my site for contact info and harass the Chinese about Tibet. Pleeeeese.


Gravatargot corned beef, cabbage, potatoes, guiness. I am set for Monday.
trifecta


I still need a white horse.


GravatarWould love to go to the Con, but ...

My consultant business totally fucks me. I analyze big public school budgets to supplement the adjunct prof gig. If word got out to the political cowards that run our education system that not only am I a proud progressive, I also say fuck Bush, I would probably never get another analysis contract. And those pay damn good.

So, anywhose, that why I must remain anonymouse. I periodically sell my soul to the Man for little green pieces of paper and binary electronic pulses to my Bank.


GravatarJR-
Can't get a connection to Haloscan's ip from desktop running XP pro, laptop running Vista Ultimate or Ubuntu, Apple iPhone. Can't ping Haloscan.com (72.9.234.71) from a terminal on the router. Have reset all systems, have not reset router (running dd-wrt) to defaults. Can ping from current connection. All too weird.
Molly-
Great news. Will you email me?


GravatarRonjazz, actually it is conservatives who have fought against everything that most of us stand for. Party affilition has shifted over the years, the ideology of conservatism has remained the stumbling block against the progress of humanity.

-GSD


GravatarRepublicans have fought against America and its principles since the Revolution. They fought against freedom for all, womens' suffrage, child labor laws, unions, free markets, everything that has made America strong and respected in the world.

Republicans screamed bloody murder when President Carter championed humans rights. But once Reagan got in office and decided to broker things with the USSR, he was all for human rights. Now we have Bush 43 who is all for human rights while butchering up to 1,000,000 people.


GravatarTroutski,
We're going to respect people's privacy, FWIW. No photos if you don't want them, that sort of thing.


GravatarDean showed some leadership when he warned the state parties in MI and FL against moving their primaries up. They ignored him. As far as I'm concerned, they fucked up and have to live with it. - Florida

That's the spirit! Democracy for me, but ...


GravatarOooh...I'm getting excited for "da Con".
Zap Rowsdower


No shit!


GravatarWestern governments must talk to terror groups including al-Qaida and the Taliban if they hope to secure a long-term halt to their campaigns of violence, according to the man who for more than a decade was Tony Blair's most influential aide and adviser.

Jonathan Powell, who served as Blair's chief of staff from 1995 to 2007 and is widely regarded as having been instrumental in negotiating a settlement in Northern Ireland, said his experience in the province convinced him that it was essential to keep a line of communication open even with one's most bitter enemies.

Powell said: "There's nothing to say to al-Qaida and they've got nothing to say to us at the moment, but at some stage you're going to have to come to a political solution as well as a security solution. And that means you need the ability to talk."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/ 200...ecurity.alqaida

countdown to Jonathan Powell being called an 'Islamofascist euroweenie sympathiser' by howling wingnuts in 1...2....3


GravatarThat's the spirit! Democracy for me, but ...
Anything to Win


Democracy has nothing to do with it, ignatz.


GravatarNo Irish or dogs allowed.


.


GravatarCan't get a connection to Haloscan's ip from desktop running XP pro, laptop running Vista Ultimate or Ubuntu, Apple iPhone. Can't ping Haloscan.com (72.9.234.71) from a terminal on the router. Have reset all systems, have not reset router (running dd-wrt) to defaults. Can ping from current connection. All too weird.

sidhra


Sounds like your router or modem has lost its mind. Try resetting the modem to factory default first. Remember, you have to turn everything off, then reboot in sequence.

You can always call your ISP's phone support (hahahahahahahaha)


GravatarNo Irish or dogs allowed.


What do you have against dogs?


GravatarNo Irish or dogs allowed.

But what of loose women and pickpockets?


Gravatarfor JR amusement - The atheist delusion

'Opposition to religion occupies the high ground, intellectually and morally,' wrote Martin Amis recently. Over the past few years, leading writers and thinkers have published bestselling tracts against God. John Gray on why the 'secular fundamentalists' have got it all wrong


GravatarWhat do you have against dogs?

Nothing. No.

Some of my best friends are dogs.


.


GravatarThat's the spirit! Democracy for me, but ...
Anything to Win


That was pretty much the attitude of the state parties in MI and FL. They wanted to move up because they thought they were "more important" than other states. I wrote the state party here and told them to lose the arrogance, to no avail.


GravatarA tornado in an urban downtown? You don't see that very often.
Zap Rowsdower


Weather guy yesterday said that's simply a statistical reflection of what a small portion of the nation's surface area is taken up by urban city-centers. It isn't because they're in any way "immunized" or "buffered."

Could be true, for all I know.


GravatarLoose women, yes, of course.


.


Gravatarthe guns are currently been fired on Salisbury Plain, very loudly I might add (part of it was brought by the MoD for training)

the army it seems are on maneuvers

Wiltshire is home to army and air bases, so if there was to be a strike Devizes would no doubt be blown out of the sky due to all the military installations near by


GravatarI certainly hope so but fear that Ari's 527 already has a commercial in the can with BHO in Arab garb and the pastor's comments in the background. Will give anyone who wants one an excuse not to vote for BHO.
qlª | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 12:02 pm | #

Nothing compared to this:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/...in-Bush- Hug.htm


GravatarI am not loose. In fact, right now, I'm tied up.


GravatarSome of your friends are irish, too, spork.


a-HEM!


Gravatarfor JR amusement - The atheist delusion


Ah, wanking.


Gravatarfor a long time Devizes was a garrison town

its reduced to half or even less now


GravatarWeather guy yesterday said that's simply a statistical reflection of what a small portion of the nation's surface area is taken up by urban city-centers. It isn't because they're in any way "immunized" or "buffered."

Could be true, for all I know.
SteveLG | 03.15.08 - 12:29 pm | #

Tornadoes occur more in jeebusland where there is hardly any real downtown, just a bunch of industrial/office parks spread out for miles so as to avoid the black folk.


GravatarBecause of "Holy Week", St. Paul is having its St. Pats day parade today.

It's probably for the best. By the time I get to work on Monday, the green vomit should be cleaned up.


GravatarI love watching strawmen being beaten, Moon.


Not.


GravatarYesterday, the big story was the Bear Stearns bank is going to hell.

Last night, I dreamt that there was a black bear in my apartment and I was trying to figure out how to get him to leave. Funny.


GravatarScout Finch over at Teh Great Pumpkin nails my thoughts on the Obama/pastor so-called controversey:

Without weighing in on whether or not the content of Reverend Jeremiah Wright's sermons should be denounced by Barack Obama, I do find one aspect of this story quite troubling. We have now seen more sermons from Barack Obama's minister in 48 hours than we ever did of Mike Huckabee ---- and Mike Huckabee was a presidential candidate for 14 long months. Why is it acceptable to scour every last sermon given by Wright, but only weeks ago we weren't allowed to see or read Mike Huckabee's sermons? In fact, not only was it totally ignored by the traditional media, but the few times the question of Huckabee's sermons was raised, it was brushed aside as inappropriate.


GravatarThanks, I appreciate that. I got filmed at the Olympia direct action. Saw my mug on the local news in a very nasty report. Made us look like anarchists that just want to destroy. It was a total bullshit frame.

Anyway, I'm just trying to be a bit careful now. Maybe I can wear a Nixon mask or something, but it would make it difficult to smoke those big cigars that A is going to light with his hundred dollar bills...


Gravatarsidhra has mail.


GravatarThousands of people have joined demonstrations in London and Glasgow, to mark the fifth anniversary of the start of the war in Iraq.

Demonstrators are calling for troops to be withdrawn from Iraq and Afghanistan, against an attack on Iran, and for Gaza's borders to be re-opened.

The Foreign Office commented that Iraq was seeing "steady progress".

A spokesman added that in Afghanistan Nato forces are "winning the struggle against the Taleban."

'More dangerous place'

A spokesman for the Stop the War Coalition said that five years after the invasion of Iraq, the world had become "a much more dangerous place."

He added: "Estimates suggest as many as one million have died violent deaths as a result of the occupation of Iraq.

"Despite talk of a change of attitude to Bush's wars, Brown is sending more troops to Afghanistan. This hidden war is fast becoming a disaster mirroring Iraq."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne...ews/ 7298205.stm


Gravatarbut it would make it difficult to smoke those big cigars that A is going to light with his hundred dollar bills...

Dang, I knew I was forgetting something.

/shops online for top hat


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I love watching strawmen being beaten, Moon.


Ray Bolger deserves better.


GravatarI have a dog that is worth at least three humans. Probably more, depending on the choice of human.


Gravatarnternet pornography, foreign prostitutes and a growing number of cheap dance clubs have been blamed for the closure of the oldest brothel in one of the world's most famous red-light districts.

Hotel Luxor, a family-run establishment set up in 1948 in the port-side district of St Pauli, will shut next month, its owner, Waltraud Mehrer, told the German press yesterday. It will be sold to an investor.

"It's no longer possible to make much money from real sex here in St Pauli," said Mehrer, who has run the business for 21 years. "The table-dance clubs are still in operation, but otherwise there's not much business to be done here any more. I blame it on the rise of internet porn, the popularity of call-girl services and the noisy discos and dance clubs," she told the Hamburger Morgenpost.

Customers were no longer willing to pay high prices for sex, and an influx of eastern European prostitutes had also caused prices to fall, she said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/.../mar/15/ germany


GravatarRay Bolger deserves better.
Richard


Why is it that the only answers the religious have to atheism is to make shit up?


GravatarWe're at 600. How about a new thread, Miss Molly?


GravatarAwright, awright...

Both Irish and dogs are okay.

Where's a bigot to go these days?

Oooh, I know...theManx.

Them with there tailless cats and funny accents...oh yeah, they're losers.


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GravatarThere was a tornado in Brooklyn a couple of months ago.

P.S. Al Gore is fat.


GravatarK-Lo:

I'm not a fan of cherrypicking from someone's religion, taking religious stuff out of context, etc. Heaven knows I sometimes hear things from a Catholic pulpit or read something in a Catholic church's bulletin that I don't agree with (and is not actual RCC doctrine, etc.). But Trinity Church has been an influence on Barack Obama — or so he has told us. And it so happens that we know very little about Barack Obama's core. So the questions have to be asked. Is this his core? What is his core?

How many times, Senator, have you heard the phrase "this racist United States of America!" at church? Did it ever bother you? How and why?

These are not questions about undergarments here.


You naughty thing! If you were interested in Obama's core, you wouldn't be peeking into his undergarments.


GravatarCustomers were no longer willing to pay high prices for sex, and an influx of eastern European prostitutes had also caused prices to fall, she said.

Blow jobs are an elastic commodity.


GravatarHey, kids - coming up next on 10@10 - it's 1974!


GravatarAl Gore is NOT fat! He is fucking hot!

He is my SuperDelegateMan!


GravatarWhy is it that the only answers the religious have to atheism is to make shit up?
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 12:37 pm | #

Um, think about that for a minute.


Gravatarleibniz: Carter didn't hesitate to press the murderous fascists of Central and South America on the issue of human rights, as well as the Godless Commies. That's why the right hated him for doing it.

I've said often that one of the stark differences between left and right in this country is that the left has rethought, questioned and agonized over its occasional apologies for the excesses of left wing regimes. The right has done nothing of the sort. In that context, it's comical to hear the right adopt Churchill as theirs. The right in this country mostly supported the Nazis and Fascists, and was rigidly isolationist right up to Dec. 7. 1941.


GravatarHe is my SuperDelegateMan!

I always liked Muddy Waters' version of that...


GravatarK-lo's core is made of Fluff™.


GravatarWhy is it that the only answers the religious have to atheism is to make shit up?
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 12:37 pm | #

How do you think they got to be religious in the first place?


GravatarIf anyone feels the need to correct my spelling have at it.


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GravatarBBC Radio Four is doing a season focused on 1968

A season of programmes on Radio 4 to mark the 40th anniversary of a momentous year - 1968. It was the year of student protests across the globe, riots in the streets of Paris, assassinations rocked America and Soviet Tanks crushed the Prague Spring. Sexual liberation, civil rights, drugs and music were said to shape the thinking of a generation.


GravatarI always liked Muddy Waters' version of that...


jdw's enlarged nutsac?


Gravatar"It's no longer possible to make much money from real sex here in St Pauli,"

can we still get the beer?


GravatarCustomers were no longer willing to pay high prices for sex

So Spitzer got screwed?


GravatarRay Bolger deserves better.

He knew what he was doing when he signed up to appear on "The Partridge Family"...


GravatarMolly I -

I done registered last night. Please tell me that I didn't screw it up..


GravatarIn that context, it's comical to hear the right adopt Churchill as theirs.

Churchill was pretty rightist, himself.


Gravatarhmmm - tornado sirens are blowing. that can't be good.


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So Spitzer got screwed?


In so many ways.


Gravatarthink i'll head downstairs.

later, all.


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spork_incidentNo Irish or dogs allowed.

We really must object to this.  Where's the umpire!!!


GravatarHow do you think they got to be religious in the first place?
ronjazz hu


They were lied to?


GravatarAn explosion has hit a restaurant in Islamabad, Pakistani local media and witnesses have said.

The blast occurred at the Luna Caprese Italian restaurant in central Islamabad, police official Mohammad Ishtiaq told the AFP news agency.

"One wall of the restaurant has partly collapsed and many people have been injured," he said.

Local media reported that two people were feared dead at the restaurant, which is popular with foreigners.

"It's a very bad situation," an employee at Luna Caprese told the AFP news agency.

"There are lots of injured people who have lost their limbs and legs," the employee said.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south...sia/ 7298609.stm


GravatarYay! Coffee is ready.


Gravatar"I was born in '72
Out of the McGovern race
My momma told me, 'Son,
Ya gotta keep them hippies in their place!'
I'm a SuperDelegateMan!
I spell 'S'!
I spell 'U'"
I spell..."

Well, you get the idea...


Gravatarhmmm - tornado sirens are blowing. that can't be good.
dirk gently


Time to get the fuck out of Dodge.


GravatarWe're at 600. How about a new thread, Miss Molly?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 03.15.08 - 12:37 pm | #
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So, Vicki can be first? Ha-ha


Gravatarexplosions are happening everywhere today - One hundred and sixty people, many of them Americans, are feared dead or injured after a series of large explosions at an army base on the outskirts of Tirana, the capital of Albania, officials have said.

People suffering with burns, concussions and broken limbs were rushed to local hospitals following the blasts, believed to have begun while teams were dismantling munitions at a store base. Many of the injuries were a result of flying glass or shrapnel.

"We do not know the exact number, but we fear the worst for the three teams, each of 21 people, working there at the time," said Juela Mecani, spokeswoman for the country's prime minister, Sali Berisha. "Several were US citizens."

A spokesman for the Albanian interior ministry, Avni Neza, said army and police forces were trying to reach the area in armoured cars. "Helicopters have not yet managed to land because the explosions continue," he said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/...008/mar/15/ nato


GravatarAlso on this day:

1916 - President Woodrow Wilson sends 12,000 United States troops over the U.S.-Mexico border to pursue Pancho Villa.


Gravatar
Oooh, I know...the
Manx.



Them with there tailless cats and funny accents...oh yeah, they're losers.

Naow, naow then, wot's all this?


GravatarOver on another board, I asked a wingnut who was defending the Fed's bailout of Bear Stearns why he was so against free market capitalism. I think his head done asploded.


GravatarThat horrible, loathsome radical George McGovern...

NIXON 1972!

Honest government!


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Gravatar1916 - President Woodrow Wilson sends 12,000 United States troops over the U.S.-Mexico border to pursue Pancho Villa.

Supposedly, my grandfather's brother was in the calvary at the time and was involved in that.

Stupidest thing he ever did was, the army sent him to Hawaii at one point, and he didn't stay!


GravatarChurchill was right wing, imperialist and racist. But he opposed Hitler's Germany, which evinces a prescience the right wing in this country had none of.

My point was that the right, in adopting Churchill and the lessons of the Munich conference and all that, are in almost comical denial of the actual positions taken by the right wing in this country up until Pearl Harbor. There's much, much less denial on the left that an apology for, say, Stalin, however uneasy, was in retrospect misplaced.


GravatarNaow, naow then, wot's all this?

Isle of Man Tourism Bureau


What has three legs and flies?
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A pair of Manx trousers.


Gravatarspork: recall the grand old bumper sticker:

I'm from Massachusetts
Nixon 49, America 1


GravatarOver on another board, I asked a wingnut who was defending the Fed's bailout of Bear Stearns why he was so against free market capitalism. I think his head done asploded.
Florida

It is even more intriguing because BS isn't eligible to ask for the money itself.


Gravatarother events

# 221 - Liu Bei, a Chinese warlord and member of the Han royal house, declares himself emperor of Shu-Han and claims his legitimate succession to the Han Dynasty.
# 351 - Constantius II elevates his cousin Gallus to Caesar, and puts him in charge of the Eastern part of the Roman Empire.
# 933 - After a ten-year truce, German King Henry I defeats a Hungarian army at the Battle of Riade near the Unstrut river.
# 1311 - Battle of Halmyros: The Catalan Company defeats Walter V of Brienne to take control of the Duchy of Athens, a Crusader state in Greece.
# 1672 - Charles II of England issues the Royal Declaration of Indulgence.
# 1848 - A revolution breaks out in Hungary. The Habsburg rulers are compelled to meet the demands of the Reform party.
# 1917 - Tsar Nicholas II of Russia abdicates the Russian throne and his brother the Grand Duke becomes Tsar.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_15


GravatarTornadoes occur more in jeebusland where there is hardly any real downtown, just a bunch of industrial/office parks spread out for miles so as to avoid the black folk

That makes perfect sense.

Memphis, Little Rock, Birmingham, Mobile, Jackson, Nashville, Atlanta -
None of these cities have a real downtown

heh...heh...heh...


GravatarBTW, coffee tastes better in an Eschacon mug.

It's Neff-errific©!


GravatarGave you sheets.


GravatarIts only free market capitalism for ther egular folk.


Gravatar1916 - President Woodrow Wilson sends 12,000 United States troops over the U.S.-Mexico border to pursue Pancho Villa.

1917 - Troops return to the US with tails between legs. US finally has enough troops to enter WWI.


GravatarIs Obama trying to get out in front of something. Hmmmm?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/1...cs/ 15obama.html

Obama Describes Developer Deal as a Mistake
By JEFF ZELENY
WASHINGTON - Senator Barack Obama said Friday that he had made repeated lapses of judgment in dealing with an indicted Chicago real estate developer, Antoin Rezko, and acknowledged that Mr. Rezko had raised more money for his political campaigns than he had previously disclosed.

Mr. Rezko, who is on trial on federal corruption charges, had raised as much as $250,000 for Mr. Obama during his first three political races. Previously, Mr. Obama's campaign estimated that Mr. Rezko had raised about $150,000 for him.

In an interview with The Chicago Tribune that was posted on the newspaper's Web site on Friday evening, Mr. Obama said he had made a mistake by engaging in a real estate deal with Mr. Rezko. The deal involved a new home Mr. Obama and his family bought in Chicago in 2005; Mr. Rezko acquired an adjacent parcel of land to help complete the sale.


Gravatar
I'm from Massachusetts
Nixon 49, America 1


America won in 1974.

Would that the Democrats of today remember that.


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Gravatarthink i'll head downstairs.

later, all.
dirk gently,


Holy shit! Where's dirk? Atlanta?


GravatarI've said often that one of the stark differences between left and right in this country is that the left has rethought, questioned and agonized over its occasional apologies for the excesses of left wing regimes. The right has done nothing of the sort. In that context, it's comical to hear the right adopt Churchill as theirs. The right in this country mostly supported the Nazis and Fascists, and was rigidly isolationist right up to Dec. 7. 1941.

As it now does the chosen Arab states, China, Pakistan, Egypt, and Nepal, all for lucre over human rights. Kissinger's and Willy Brandt's real politicks were so dissimilar. Kissinger's was more "rial politics".


GravatarSupposedly, my grandfather's brother was in the calvary at the time and was involved in that.

So - your great-uncle was a Buffalo Soldier?


Gravatar
Over on another board, I asked a wingnut who was defending the Fed's bailout of Bear Stearns why he was so against free market capitalism. I think his head done asploded.


Clearly Bush is getting nervous...

Avoid overcorrecting economy, Bush warns
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080...n_go_pr_wh/ bush

I would imagine that he's afraid of the return of the regulations that in the past would have prevented the insanity that is currently destroying the economy.

He's doing a pretty good Hoover impression.


GravatarObama made his judgement a campaign issue. (Hillary has made her experience an issue - not her judgement). That is Obama's problem now. How do you keep asking people to hold up thise campaign signs that say Judgement after this admission on his part?
Maybe those signs say something different on the back side and can be reused.


GravatarLooks like the "shine" is rubbing off Obama!


GravatarProcess ?

Since Atrios will be gone, will this be the only thread til tomorrow? If so, how many comments can it hold before it implodes?


GravatarLooks like the "shine" is rubbing off Obama!
Bugs | 03.15.08 - 12:56 pm | #

looks like the shit isn't rubbing off you.


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