I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

WASHINGTON - The Justice Department and CIA announced a joint inquiry Saturday into the spy agency's destruction of videotapes of interrogations of two suspected terrorists.


WASHINGTON - Col Sanders investigating chicken disappearances


GravatarDale Cooper,

Doesn't the old man who runs Shepherd's farm say, at one point, "I think they're a couple of grifters?"


Gravatar(faints)


GravatarWASHINGTON - The Justice Department and CIA announced a joint inquiry Saturday into the spy agency's destruction of videotapes of interrogations of two suspected terrorists.
Gilly Gonzylon


and now the "I didn't do it" Dancers


GravatarWhy not Deborah Howell?


GravatarWASHINGTON - The Justice Department and CIA announced a joint inquiry Saturday into the spy agency's destruction of videotapes of interrogations of two suspected terrorists.
Gilly Gonzylon

Gee, wonder how that will turn out.


GravatarIf we all paid attention to people that are actually doing things to help our country rather than focusing on what some person decided to type or not type in an article, we'd all be a lot better off.

...just sayin'


GravatarWhy not Deborah Howell?
Molly Ivors


teh first ever Co-Wanker


GravatarThe day after the Obama story ran, the same reporter wrote one about Karl Rove's claim that Democrats pushed to have the AUMF vote before the '02 midterms. He said that Rove's lie was "in dispute". These people never fucking learn.


GravatarAs a candidate for a U.S. Senate seat in 1992, Huckabee answered 229 questions submitted to him by The Associated Press Besides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets, rather than federal health agencies


GravatarDoesn't the old man who runs Shepherd's farm say, at one point, "I think they're a couple of grifters?"

He says, "I think they're a couple of con artists." That might be what set me to wondering.


Gravatar"I think they're a couple of con artists."

Yeah, you're right.


GravatarBesides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets, rather than federal health agencies


GravatarIf we all paid attention to people that are actually doing things to help our country rather than focusing on what some person decided to type or not type in an article, we'd all be a lot better off.

...just sayin'
sidelined


Gee, you're right! There's no connection between the state of the country and the failings of the establishment media!

Glad you could stop by.


GravatarWhy not Deborah Howell? Molly Ivors

One may as well ask why Atrios' pantry is well-stocked with snack cakes.


GravatarIf we all paid attention to people that are actually doing things to help our country rather than focusing on what some person decided to type or not type in an article, we'd all be a lot better off.

I find your views fascinating and assume I can subscribe to your newsletter at the homepage?


GravatarThese motherfuckers actually do have a long term plan:

To turn the United States into a third world country.

Where they can rule as feudal lords.

That's what it is all about.


I always thought their plan was to bankrupt Social Security, or at least the paid in advance part. Saint Ronnie after all was the "paygo" guy.

By getting America into so much national debt, then reorganizing that debt by writing of the four trillion or so owed to intragovernmental debt.

Voila! Everything is now paygo.


GravatarBesides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets rather than federal health


GravatarThe Justice Department and CIA announced a joint inquiry Saturday into the spy agency's destruction of videotapes of interrogations of two suspected terrorists.

Oh hell why don't they just do extreme rendition with the folks responsible. To Antarctica so they can be interrogated by the penguins.

Honk!


Gravatarpeace and humptiness forever


GravatarI always thought their plan was to bankrupt Social Security, or at least the paid in advance part. Saint Ronnie after all was the "paygo" guy.

And Newtie wanted Medicare to 'wither on the vine"


GravatarBesides a quarantine, Mike Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets rather than federal health


GravatarBy getting America into so much national debt, then reorganizing that debt by writing of the four trillion or so owed to intragovernmental debt.

A weird thought. Is it possible that somehow the Bush family owed a huge amount of debt? Maybe the inflation is a way to make the debt go away.


Gravatar
Glad you could stop by.


*mwah!*


Gravatar"It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."


GravatarVoila! Everything is now paygo.

I thought everything was Faygo.


GravatarBill Hamilton is legion.


GravatarYou're all unreasonable motherfuckers.


Gravatar"In light of the extraordinary funds already being given for AIDS research, it does not seem that additional federal spending can be justified," Huckabee wrote. "An alternative would be to request that multimillionaire celebrities, such as Elizabeth Taylor (,) Madonna and others who are pushing for more AIDS funding be encouraged to give out of their own personal treasuries increased amounts for AIDS research."


GravatarShutup jack/gordo/annie/pastaburger!


GravatarYou're all unreasonable motherfuckers.

I'm not!








I'm a fatherfucker.


GravatarYour father was a motherfucker!


GravatarAlso in the wide-ranging AP questionnaire in 1992, Huckabee said, "I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."


GravatarI'm a fatherfucker.
Molly Ivors


Surprised that never got much traction.


Gravatar
Surprised that never got much traction.


I was just thinking that.


Gravatar"What people do in the privacy of their own lives as adults is their business," Huckabee said. "If they bring it into the public square and ask me as a taxpayer to support it or to endorse it, then it becomes a matter of public discussion and discourse."


GravatarWell you hurt bill hamilton's feelings so i hope you're happy.


GravatarRespiratory disease are a major health risk. You get those by going out of your house.


GravatarMr. Hamilton is further undeniable proof that in order to save the Washington Post, it must be destroyed.


GravatarYou're all unreasonable motherfuckers.

It's my raison d'maître.


GravatarA weird thought. Is it possible that somehow the Bush family owed a huge amount of debt? Maybe the inflation is a way to make the debt go away.


I use to work for Poppy's company after he sold his shares to go into politics. I think they got plenty of money, at least into the hundred million or more club.


Gravatarmolly,

Tell Thers ... Some Stuyvesant guys were trash talking Regis guys yesterday at the borg. They said, "How can you tell if a guy went to Regis? .... He tells you."


GravatarBring me a fatherfuckin' iced tea just doesn't have the same ring to it.


GravatarHuckabee Wanted to Isolate AIDS Patients

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased federal funding in the search for a cure and said homosexuality could "pose a dangerous public health risk."

As a candidate for a U.S. Senate seat in 1992, Huckabee answered 229 questions submitted to him by The Associated Press. Besides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets, rather than federal health agencies.

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague," Huckabee wrote.

"It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."


Gravatar"What people do in the privacy of their own lives as adults is their business," Huckabee said. "If they bring it into the public square and ask me as a taxpayer to support it or to endorse it, then it becomes a matter of public discussion and discourse."

I'm sorry, Mister Huckelberry. I'm no longer willing to share oxygen molecules for you.

Find another planet to pollute, asswipe.


GravatarThe AP submitted the questionnaire to both candidates; only Huckabee responded. Incumbent Sen. Dale Bumpers won his fourth term; Huckabee was elected lieutenant governor the next year and became governor in 1996.

When asked about AIDS research in 1992, Huckabee complained that AIDS research received an unfair share of federal dollars when compared to cancer, diabetes and heart disease.

"In light of the extraordinary funds already being given for AIDS research, it does not seem that additional federal spending can be justified," Huckabee wrote. "An alternative would be to request that multimillionaire celebrities, such as Elizabeth Taylor (,) Madonna and others who are pushing for more AIDS funding be encouraged to give out of their own personal treasuries increased amounts for AIDS research."

Huckabee did not return messages left with his campaign.

When Huckabee wrote his answers in 1992, it was common knowledge that AIDS could not be spread by casual contact. In late 1991, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said there were 195,718 AIDS patients in the country and that 126,159 people had died from the syndrome.


GravatarThey said, "How can you tell if a guy went to Regis? .... He tells you."

All the ones I know (and I'm seeing a bunch of them tonight if you want to come along), are pretty low-key about the fact.


GravatarBring me a fatherfuckin' iced tea just doesn't have the same ring to it.

How about a fatherfuckin' Faygo?


GravatarAll the ones I know (and I'm seeing a bunch of them tonight if you want to come along), are pretty low-key about the fact.

All I know is that I'm eternally grateful that George W. Bush has fucked up that "H-Bomb" shit forever.


GravatarSome Stuyvesant guys were trash talking Regis guys yesterday at the borg. They said, "How can you tell if a guy went to Regis? .... He tells you."

Was that before or after they threw their trashcans through the window?


GravatarMolly, I don't know what show you're seeing. I am meeting a friend in Bklyn at 6 PM. Bklyn Girl is gonna have a drink with us. I assume she'll give me the scoop. What time does it start?


GravatarHmmm,

'Fatherfucking asswipe'

That's not bad.


Gravatarres,
We're not out of Bingo yet--8pm doors, 9pm show.


GravatarWhat is Regis?


GravatarI always found motherlessfucker a bit sad.


GravatarHe says, "I think they're a couple of con artists." That might be what set me to wondering.
Dale Cooper | 12.08.07 - 4:00 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Opportunists, more like it.

IMO, anyway.


GravatarDoug,
Regis High School is an all-boys Jesuit school in NYC. Patrick Fitzgerald went there. as did Thers.


GravatarMajor crude producer Iran has completely stopped carrying out its oil transactions in dollars, Oil Minister Gholam Hossein Nozari said on Saturday, labelling the greenback an "unreliable" currency.

"At the moment selling oil in dollars has been completely halted, in line with the policy of selling crude in non-dollar currencies," Nozari was quoted as saying by the ISNA news agency.

"The dollar is an unreliable currency, considering its devaluation and the oil exporters' losses," he added.

The world's fourth largest oil exporter, Iran has massively reduced its dependence on the dollar over the past year in the face of US pressures on its financial system.

Ruh ro


GravatarI always found motherlessfucker a bit sad.

Sometimes I feel like a motherlessfucker.


GravatarDoug,

Private Catholic school here in Sin City. Xavier boys say theirs is the best. Cardinal Hays boys say theirs is the best. But GOD says REgis is the best.


GravatarIt seemed to me the story made clear that Obama was not a Muslim but that the campaign was having trouble contending with people spreading that rumor. I thought that in this context saying it was a rumor meant it wasn't true

No Bill. See when something is a rumor it may be true or it may not be true. No one has confirmed it one way or another. This 'Obama is a Muslim plant' story is not a rumor. It's a lie that's been disproved by several news outlets. It's intended to smear and damage his campaign. When you call a lie a rumor you actually give it legitimacy. Get it? Which brings me to this:

Reasonable people can disagree on this. But the people I have heard from are not reasonable. What I find especially disheartening is the idea that our motives are simply assumed to have been malicious.

So you would rather people think you're too stupid to know the difference between a rumor and lie? You'd rather people think you're a reporter who's completely out of touch with his subject? Okay.


GravatarAnd a pic of the Chanukah Ham

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/ 2..._295462295d.jpg


GravatarPhila,

I agree (we were discussing this downthread). They take advantage of his illness. But at the end, I think she may become either a prostitute or grifter.


Gravatarfetid jail cells

You'd think that'd be more newsworthy than the rick kids thrown into them.


GravatarPrivate Catholic school here in Sin City. Xavier boys say theirs is the best. Cardinal Hays boys say theirs is the best. But GOD says REgis is the best.

Which one produced the most fatherfuckers?


GravatarGOD says REgis is the best.

He's dyslexic, it's spelled DOG.


GravatarMolly,

What is the band and where is the show?


GravatarRedd Kross at Southpaw.


Gravatar"What people do in the privacy of their own lives as adults is their business," Huckabee said. "If they bring it into the public square and ask me as a taxpayer to support it or to endorse it, then it becomes a matter of public discussion and discourse."

Pretty bad. But not as immediately, obviously bad as this:

Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas today refused to authorize a Medicaid payment for an abortion for a 15-year-old girl whose stepfather has been charged with incest, despite a Federal judge's order that such payments were required by Federal law.


GravatarScalia went to Xavier.


Gravatarres,
simels was supposed to come but had to cancel.


Gravatarthe choices are malicious or stupid.


GravatarExcuse Me Could Somebody Please Alert The 'Liberal MSM' That The Fabulous Surge Is Coming Unravelled?

suicide bombings are back up to being a daily occurance this week, which has seen double the deaths of any week since august

today's daily blood
12/08/07 Reuters: 2 policemen wounded by IED in Baghdad's Harthiya district
Two police commandos were wounded by a roadside bomb targeting their patrol in central Baghdad's Harthiya district, police said.
12/08/07 AP: Suicide bomber in Iraqi oil hub kills 7
A suicide truck bomber attacked a police station in one of Iraq's major oil hubs on Saturday, killing at least seven people and injuring 13 in a neighborhood home to many refinery workers and engineers...five policemen and two civilians were killed...
12/08/07 Reuters: Explosion kills al-Sadr associate in Numaniya
An explosion killed Uday Hamid, a local leader of the movement of Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, his wife and two children as they slept in their home in Numaniya...police said. The cause of the blast was not clear but it could have been a bomb
12/08/07 Reuters: 3 Bodies found in Baghdad, 2 bodies pulled from Tigris River
Three bodies were found in different areas of Baghdad on Friday, police said...Two bodies with gunshot wounds and showing signs of torture were recovered from the Tigris River in the town of Suwayra, 60 km (40 miles) south of Baghdad, police said.
12/08/07 Reuters: Mortar fire kills chils in Mahmudiya
A child was killed and two others wounded by two mortar bombs in the town of Mahmudiya, 30 km (20 miles) south of Baghdad, police said.
12/08/07 Reuters: Gunmen posing as Iraqi soldiers kill civilian southwest of Kirkuk
Gunmen posing as Iraqi soldiers killed a civilian southwest of Kirkuk, 250 km (255 miles) north of Baghdad, police said.


GravatarI don't even know what sort of music it is. I have heard of them, though.


GravatarI don't even know what sort of music it is.

Gnarly.


Gravatar"The world's fourth largest oil exporter, Iran has massively reduced its dependence on the dollar over the past year in the face of US pressures on its financial system.

Ruh ro"
--Gilly Gonzylon

Ah, Bush&co really knows how to fuck up every time, don't they? Wouldn't have expected less of them.


GravatarIt's my sort of thing, res. Pop/punk.


Gravataryall, i've been over at dkos getting the crap beaten out of me. i feel like coming home here.

why are those obama freaks at dkos so mean?


Gravatar"Gnarly" is not in my OED.

Molly, Why don't you call me on the mo-bile when you're getting close. I'll be at a bar right near there from 6-8 with The Russian. He has to split at 8 PM, though.


GravatarAh, Bush&co really knows how to fuck up every time, don't they? Wouldn't have expected less of them.


Why is the dollar tanking? Because the US economy, more and more, is built on the thinner and thinner air known as credit.

Not only the mortgage crisis, but also consumer spending needed to keep the ponzi scheme going because fewer and fewer well paying actually productive (as in making stuff, not selling it, or figuring out who to sell it to) jobs are around, then of course there's the entire issue of fighting a totally optional war of aggression and followup bloody occupation "off budget".


Gravatarwhy are those obama freaks at dkos so mean?

Cognitive dissonance resulting from mounting evidence of his joementrocity.


Gravatar"Gnarly" is not in my OED.

But is Gnarles Barkley on your ipod?


GravatarApprentice to Darth Holden, sounds like the credit card bust has hardly made the radar screen yet.


GravatarCognitive dissonance resulting from mounting evidence of his joementrocity.

Nail. Hammer. Hit.


GravatarAh, Bush&co really knows how to fuck up every time, don't they? Wouldn't have expected less of them.
mer


It is breathtaking. Now we know why they were pushing to bomb and why the NIE was released two steps ahead of a leak.


GravatarBut is Gnarles Barkley on your ipod?

No, but I got The Kinks doing "You Really Got Me" in the studio, so I'm all set.


Gravatarchi dyke - is that you?

Come sit by me. I'm feeling blue.


GravatarNo, but I got The Kinks doing "You Really Got Me" in the studio, so I'm all set. res ipsa loquitur

And you're oh so healthy in your body and your mind.


GravatarPrivate Catholic school here in Sin City. Xavier boys say theirs is the best. Cardinal Hays boys say theirs is the best. But GOD says REgis is the best.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 4:17 pm | #


Well, Stuyvesant is actually the best, alhtough it's not private. But Regis is all scholarship, too, IIRC ...

Res, we're heading out to see a band called Redd Kross at a club in Park Slope. I wasn't sure who was going and who wasn't (actually, I'm still not sure). It seems like there are still tix if you are interested. $15 at the door.


Gravatar"a swift Internet reaction that left some staffers stunned at its ferocity."

That makes me smile.


GravatarNail. Hammer. Hit.

I dunno - I was thinking joemendacity might be better, but it sounded harsh.


GravatarApprentice to Darth Holden, sounds like the credit card bust has hardly made the radar screen yet.

Already higher percentages of auto payments are not being made.

The problem is that a consumption based economy needs consumers. If the consumers don't have disposable income, the consumption based economy starts to teeter. The people at the top have been, through their sheer unending insaitable greed, been destroying the base of their own house of cards.

One huge problem is that as workers become more and more productive, the need for workers decreases. Our economic model can't deal with this fact. If you have robots tending the fields, there's no need for armies of farmers. Just platoons of robot maintenance men. What do you do with the unneeded army?


GravatarBrooklyn Girl,

That's what the Stuyvesant boys said!

I'm getting ready to go. Can I decide on the show later?


GravatarCan I decide on the show later?

Yep!


GravatarOh, me likes joemendacity mucho. It's up there with motherfuckin' iced tea.


GravatarNow I'm going to watch "Asylum".


GravatarGrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Okay.......I got another router (D-Link), which came with instructions and a disk (unlike the Belkin I had to send back).

Got the router hooked up in ten minutes and it works.....with the main computer.

I STILL cannot get on the Internet on the laptop.

Do I have to get ANOTHER Ethernet cable and plug THAT into another port on the Router?

I cannot understand WHY I can't get either Internet Explorer or Firefox to come up without an error message!

I am so aggravated and frustrated with this fucking thing right now! I bought it to get on the net and now I STILL can't!


GravatarDoug,
Regis High School is an all-boys Jesuit school in NYC. Patrick Fitzgerald went there. as did Thers.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 4:16 pm | #


My dad did, as well.
~


GravatarAll right. I'm outta here. Bklyn Girl, I hope I see you (and tigre and mary and whomever else) for at least one adult beverage.


Gravatar"a swift Internet reaction that left some staffers stunned at its ferocity."
That makes me smile.


That WaPo staffers are stunned by the palpable anger directed toward them for their complicity in propping up the failed Bush regime reveals much. Their openly admitting it reveals more.


GravatarBrooklyn Girl,

That's what the Stuyvesant boys said!

I'm getting ready to go. Can I decide on the show later?
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 4:35 pm | #


Heh.

And of course you can decide at the last moment.


GravatarWhy don't we start another thread on the intellectual inferiority of blacks in which everyone can start bragging about their SAT scores or former membership in MENSA?


GravatarTerry C - Did you turn on the switch on the side of your laptop? Usually front right corner. When you search for wireless connections, does it see your network?


GravatarTerry C
I think you have to turn everything off first, then turn things back on in a certain order. I believe for me it was: turn on comcast modem, then dlink, then the computer.


GravatarTerry C - Democratic Bitch,

you have to follow a sequence of unhooking and replugging from my experience. Let me see if I can find my instructions.


GravatarHow many blacks or poors went to this elite Catholic School?


GravatarI wonder if they actually believe that the story was fair and I tend to think they do - because it is not in their interest to think otherwise.


GravatarHow many blacks or poors went to this elite Catholic School?
card



fuck off, jack.


GravatarHow many blacks or poors went to this elite Catholic School?
card | 12.08.07 - 4:40 pm | #


A lot. The school is based strictly on academic merit.


GravatarTerry C
I think you have to turn everything off first, then turn things back on in a certain order. I believe for me it was: turn on comcast modem, then dlink, then the computer.
ErinPDX



It works on the main computer.

However, it does nothing for the laptop.


GravatarThe school is based strictly on academic merit.
Is the institution dependent on big government?


GravatarHow many blacks or poors went to this elite Catholic School?
card | 12.08.07 - 4:40 pm | #


Here, use teh google, annie_anal.

~


GravatarOilcan!


GravatarWhat are "poors"?

Anything like "deciders"?


GravatarBG are you a Stuyvesant grad?

You seem too nice.


GravatarSheets, except for jackass. He can stay down here and wank himself to Huckabee.
~


GravatarThe school is based strictly on academic merit.
Is the institution dependent on big government?
card | 12.08.07 - 4:45 pm | #



Don't be an asshole. Oh wait, I guess you can't help it.


GravatarOilcan! watertiger

Romney is Chuck Schick's dad?


GravatarWhat are "poors"?

Anything like "deciders"?
Terry C - Democratic Bitch | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 4:50 pm | #


He really wanted to know if any republicans went their, but can't spell "boors" or "whores".


GravatarBG are you a Stuyvesant grad?

You seem too nice.
rootless-e | 12.08.07 - 4:51 pm | #

No, I'm not a Stuyvesant grad. I didn't grow up in NYC. But my ex-husband is a Bronx Science grad, and he's very nice.


GravatarWhat are "poors"?

Half of the business reporting and rating service, Standard & Poor's
http://www.standardandpoors.com/


GravatarWatertiger,

That "Push it" post was amazing. Very heartfelt!


GravatarReasonable people can disagree on this. But the people I have heard from are not reasonable. What I find especially disheartening is the idea that our motives are simply assumed to have been malicious.

¿Well, guess what joo stupid sheethead?

When joo publish previously debunked smears, then try to state that they are just facts that are "in dispute" and that "reasonable people can disagree", what joo are actually doing is giving legitimacy to previously debunked smears.

Now explain to me how one can spread previously debunked political smears on the front page of the WashingPost and not have one's motives be malicious.

Chingado frotacionado, I bathe myself at joo een disgust.

(bathe, bathe)


Gravatarpoors at the school is pretty standard.


GravatarWASHINGTON - The Justice Department and CIA announced a joint inquiry Saturday into the spy agency's destruction of videotapes of interrogations of two suspected terrorists.
Gilly Gonzylon | 12.08.07 - 3:54 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


There are rumors going 'round that I'm cheating on my wife.

I've appointed myself to investigate, and will soon figure out whether or not it's true.


GravatarNo, I'm not a Stuyvesant grad. I didn't grow up in NYC. But my ex-husband is a Bronx Science grad, and he's very nice.
Brooklyn Girl, no longer sane | 12.08.07 - 4:53 pm | #


i went to st. hilda's and st. hugh's at 114th & b'way

i think we played you guys in basket ball (as st. hugh's)

.


GravatarL'il Debbie:

But there was no deliberate "smear job," as some readers charged. The story said clearly in the second paragraph that Obama is a member of a United Church of Christ congregation in Chicago.

Of course, the article also clearly says:

Another e-mail, on a site called Snopes.com that tracks Internet rumors, starts, "Be careful, be very careful." It notes that "Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim," and that "since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim."

And, of course, no mention of the fact that Snopes.com thoroughly debunked that email.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/o...bama/ muslim.asp


Gravatardefinition of a rumor:
gossip (usually a mixture of truth and untruth) passed around by word of mouth
WaPo puts gossip investigations on page one? wow.


GravatarI don't believe for a moment the rumors that Deborah Howell is a Strom Thermond love baby nor accusations that she has had 12 abortions. Still the rumors persist. In any case none of that should detract from her professional work.


Gravatar"get my good side"-Deborah Howell to bathroom photojournalist Fred Hiatt


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