I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarYes


Gravatarunless haloscan is lying


GravatarWhich it has been known to do.


GravatarActually, a fair proportion of Jews are even more fed up with Israel than the rest of us.


GravatarHoooooooooommmmmmmmeeeeeeeeee

Ruuuuuuuuuuuuun


GravatarOut at the plate, dear.


Gravatarlet's play ball!


GravatarSo is it going to be another day of full-throated hysteria at Orange Satan?

It might be time to just delete them from my bookmarks and be done with it...


GravatarWhen Olmert gets indicted...


Gravatardead-threaded:

yet it's the people with children who should do the most because they have to worry about what type of planet their children will inherit.

you guys decided to have children, now do it responsibly and stop whining...


GravatarSo is it going to be another day of full-throated hysteria at Orange Satan?

It might be time to just delete them from my bookmarks and be done with it...
dave™©


I hear ya.


GravatarTime for my breakfast, bats.

Have a good Saturday morning, and consider the plight of nearly 300 Guatemalans who will do hard time in a federal prison before they get deported.


GravatarI get to say this once in a while:

Jews and Israel are quite two things.
Israel and Likud are quite two things.
Jews and Zionism are quite two things.
Israel and AIPAC are quite two things.

Reducing extraordinary complexities to incidents full of blind hatred and death, to caricatures which reinforce ignorance and make even hopes of progress impossible, is wrong on the facts, and wrong as a strategy to confront them.


GravatarAtrios, $100 to Obama if you ban mimi.


Gravatartooooooo many u's.

Gloating.

Never good.


GravatarMy immediate family includes a smattering of the jewish faith and all are liberal as hell although BIL is violently opposed to my particular brand of liberalism.


GravatarAtrios, Mrs. Potato Head Storm Trooper if you ban QL!!!!


Gravatarmedia: bullhorn for corporate owners to keep them in control

no wonder at all they will bleat their disinformation


GravatarFrom downstairs:
It's a 20 minute drive, sometimes longer.

noblejoanie, there's a daycare on campus, and the bus stops right next to it. We have a lot of students who are parents. They get free bus passes, I think.


GravatarAtrios, $100 to Obama if you ban mimi.
qlª
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hear hear!


GravatarBut that's why I'm just a simple blogger with no ethics, credibility, or standards.

You also have no mustache.


Gravatarthe people I feel really bad for are the people who have to take the bus for hours and hours to get to a minimum wage job - many are from ethnic minorities. you know, we don't mention them here too often when talking about public transport.


GravatarOh, the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Hindus hate the Moslems
And everybody hates the Jews!

-Tom Lehrer


GravatarAtrios, $100 to Obama if you ban mimi.
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I'll pledge $25


Gravatarand an item from your wish list if you ban Nancy Willing!


GravatarPeople here wear their transit passes in plastic sleeves on lanyards around their necks, like a corporate ID, sometimes.
plantsman, less blue | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 8:07 am |


Quite a few people here in Dayton do that, I'm beginning to think that's a good idea.


GravatarIf I were a star reporter.....it might occur to me to first whip out Teh Google and see if this premise was actually true.

But, that would take up so much precious time. It's so much easier to just go with your natural reporters "instincts".



Gravatarmolly,
not so bad then. obviously day to day driving's easier if you have a car, but it's decent enough service that you can consider having one fewer cars in your household, and certainly decent enough that it's an option if a car breaks down.


GravatarPublic transport in the area here is largely to and from Boston. Taking a trip from one suburban destination to another is long and not always possible, but that's what commercial development has made more and more necessary as jobs relocate or spring up in office parks.


GravatarBTW, I'd like to thank everyone who has done such a marvelous job completely ignoring the self-hating transvestite wanna-be homosexual.

Keep up the good work, kids!


GravatarThere was a young guy just dancing his ass off on the sidewalk with a sign for $5 Little Caesar's Pizza yesterday. You gotta be young for that kind of job, burning off more calories than you can buy with you paycheck.


Gravatarwith the amount of children some people have, they shouldn't be driving at all. cycling would be more like it, what with all the damage they've done with the disposable diapers over the years....


Gravatar$5.25 rt for 15 miles not worth it in Boston


Gravatara number of my jewish friends have insisted to me that most jews vote republican because their immediately family does. maybe it's because most of them are from long island.


Gravatarwhoops, $5.25 one way


Gravatar(I picture Molly grading papers on the bus, myself.)


Gravatarso transvestite is an insult now?

and wanna-be homosexual?

I thought this was a "progressive" blog....


GravatarThese studies null and void once Lieberliar comes onboard. Just watch.


Gravatarmetro north is a rip off comparatively to the prices you mention: a monthly pass is almost 300 dollars, and that is from Stamford, CT...a stone's throw to NYC


GravatarSilly, silly, silly...get facts first...check information for accuracy...WHY THAT'S UNAMERICAN!!!! It's all about just sharing your own personal wealth of info and opinion with the folks out there and the more sensational the better...


GravatarI see Molly eating on the bus...


Gravatarmogwai must have quite the throwing arm.


GravatarAtrios,
Yeah, I'm thinking maybe one or two days a week on a regular basis. The bus driver was quite surprised when I asked if I could book a regular commute--it didn't seem to occur to them that anyone might want to.

I noted this earlier, but my co-riders were people who can't drive for various reasons: mostly MR adults going to assisted workplaces and senior citizens going to day programs.


Gravatarplantsman,
Yep. It can be productive work time, no doubt.


GravatarI thought this was a "progressive" blog....

I don't think that word means what you think it does.



Gravataroh yes, gold star to Molly!!!

for the first and probably only bus ride she has ever taken.


Gravatardave(tm): practice the Way of the Finger, Grasshopper; the scroll wheel is a mighty friend when surrounded by the inimical...


GravatarTaking a trip from one suburban destination to another is long and not always possible, but that's what commercial development has made more and more necessary as jobs relocate or spring up in office parks.
ProfWombat |
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We are finally getting Sunday bus service. They haven't given up on the stupid 'radiating' model though. Just as you describe, the jobs are spead out through the county but the buses run only to and from the center of the city with no matrix for crossing the grid.


Gravatarmogwai,
I'm not sure the LIRR even has monthly passes. I think you pay by ride.


GravatarI tried relying on the public transit when I lived in Atlanta. That was over ten years ago so it wasn't that expensive but the service sucked if you had to use the buses. It could take hours to go a few miles.

The Marta line was great but limited in range. It's best feature was that you could get to the airport on it. If you travel with only a carryon it was the best way to get there. No parking problems and you never got stuck in a traffic jam.


GravatarProf Wombat,

you're quite right there. any more of Molly self-congratulatory clap trap and I will vomit.

for some reason, Atrios seems to have bought into the act as well.


Gravatarmolly,

yah, there are various pots of money communities can tap into for such programs. wasn't aware that "regular folk" could use them too.


GravatarProfWombat | 05.24.08 - 8:22 am |
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Some California businesses have private bus routes, their employees buy housing accordingly. My brother gets paid $5.00/day whenever he bikes to (surprise) Fox.

Probably the only hope for Boston's north shore. Remember the years of hearings MBTA held before they ripped apart town to town buses and made it all metropolitan service?


Gravatarplantsman, it's a 45 minute train ride to Grand Central; that's not THAT far


Gravatarthe scroll wheel is a mighty friend when surrounded by the inimical...

I'm waaaaaaaaaay ahead of you on that:

Comment by mimi blocked.

The only time I see what he's bitching about now is when other people cut and paste it. And I wish they'd stop!


GravatarMaybe the NYT is just trying to beg Jewish voters to come back to them, the NYT.


GravatarWith fuel prices rising as quickly as they are, we have a great deal of adjusting to do and a little time to do it. I oscillate between terror and hopefulness about it.


Gravatarby regular folk, you mean people who pretend to be green, Atrios?


GravatarOoops - slanties!


GravatarI'm not sure the LIRR even has monthly passes. I think you pay by ride.
Molly Ivors


nah, they have monthly passes. I was a slave to one for many, many years


GravatarMolly: I seem to have been, not for the first time, misapprehended...


Gravatarplantsman takes the bus everywhere, but doesn't brag about it...


GravatarLibby,
In urban areas, trains are much more practical. Buses leave you subject to the same traffic snarls you find in the car.

There aren't enough people here to make trains financially viable, unfortunately. At least, I don't think so. Morgantown WV is a smallish city, and they have a terrific mass transit system.


Gravatarthere's no hope for America


Gravataramtrak killed their monthy passes (well, hiked the fares so high that it wasn't worth it).


Gravatarql,
How much are they? Comparable to the Metro North passes?


Gravatarplantsman has no choice.


GravatarThe state transportation dept runs the buses and they have just limited service from my part of town because of a new 'hub' going in across town.
My neice who is living in Austin (and a new graduate -Masters in Music Ed!!)just told me that Austin incorporates the town's bus service with the University buses.
I am going to suggest that for my University town.


Gravatar
yah, there are various pots of money communities can tap into for such programs. wasn't aware that "regular folk" could use them too.


I'm pretty sure I was the only "paying" rider.


GravatarComment by mimi blocked.

The only time I see what he's bitching about now is when other people cut and paste it. And I wish they'd stop!
dave™©


Say it, brother!

And there are options for IE. The set up is a little tricky, but it works.


GravatarEmpires rise and fall; thus far, people have persisted.


GravatarMaybe the NYT is just trying to beg Jewish voters to come back to them, the NYT.
El Cid


Just recreating the world in their own image.


GravatarNancy,
A lot of colleges take this on themselves: the university here has their own fleet. But it's not integrated with the city or county transportation in any way.


Gravatarplantsman,
Because of your disability, shouldn't they give you a bus pass free?


GravatarFrom Queens to Penn Station was about $75/month. Then I needed a subway so there was more with that. But it cut the trip in half. When we lived on LI it was about $150, but I really don't remember exactly.

A bunch of people in Wilmington used to use Amtrak to commute to Baltimore until they cut out the monthly ticket. Now they drive. Sucks. And there was no real reason for it. The trains weren't over crowded.


GravatarDear NYT: fire your brain-dead neocon OpEd writers, and maybe jews will come back.


GravatarIn recent years, Jews have stopped reading the New York Times.


GravatarPerhaps the source of this viewpoint is an example I studied in a political science class last fall at ourlocal university.
Karl Rove in the 2004 election was micro-targeting every constituency in Ohio and found a small but significant population of Russian Jews in that state. He found them to be very conservative. He worked them really hard and got a signficant chunk of their votes for Bush.
Those kinds of little nuggets from academia can and are taken out of context by our pea-brained pundit class and whoops, there it is, a new media meme.
Can the meme be debunked? Just think Kookie Roberts last Sunday "...and I don't read the blogs..." It has to run its course in the Village before it goes away. Sometimes I despair...


Gravatarplantsman: yup. Time to drag out WIlliam Faulkner's Nobel acceptance speech, written in times darker than ours,in the shadow of the American and Soviet bombs, World War II and the horror of the camps, again:

I decline to accept the end of man. It is easy enough to say that man is immortal because he will endure: that when the last ding-dong of doom has clanged and faded from the last worthless rock hanging tideless in the last red and dying evening, that even then there will still be one more sound: that of his puny inexhaustible voice, still talking. I refuse to accept this. I believe that man will not merely endure: he will prevail. He is immortal, not because he alone among creatures has an inexhaustible voice, but because he has a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance.


GravatarMorgantown WV is a smallish city, and they have a terrific mass transit system.

I keep hearing great things about Morgantown. I'm thinking of checking it out for my next place of residence. I hear it's a good walking town too. That's what I miss about Northampton, (MA). Noho had the worst public transit but you didn't have to leave town much if you worked and lived there. I miss that convenience.


GravatarThere aren't enough people here to make trains financially viable, unfortunately. At least, I don't think so. Morgantown WV is a smallish city, and they have a terrific mass transit system.
Molly Ivors
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I wish I was a number cruncher type because my county could use a planner who actually researched this stuff. We are increasing the sprawl and infill in the exurbs but the mantra is that there is no critical mass for light rail.
Meanwhile they want to bond a billion for more, better roadways.


GravatarAtrios is Cleavon Little?


GravatarThe denial by Social Security disability mucked that up, and with a years-long backlong of cases.......


GravatarProfWombat--sorry to disagree. The sense that we are somehow separate and apart from the rest of the planet is the kind of thinking that got us in the mess we're in today. We're on the brink of losing our reefs, I can see it with my own eyes, and it won't just be pretty fish that disappear when that happens.

It may be too late already but we must see ourselves as woven into the fabric of this world as all the rest.


GravatarI understand that despite Dumbya's warning, Israel is holding a powwow with Syria. We must step in and save Israel from itself. They don't know what's good for them.


Gravatarthe new daily 'chock full of fun' transit pass here going for 44.44 is quite a hit.

you get a personal clown for up to 8 subway stops entertaining you on a first name basis.

a free plate of sushi served by a red-wigged performance artist on crutches.

and one digital photo of you seemingly 'levitating' in the subway car.

for an extra 75.00 you can share the stage for 8 minutes with a korean pop-music group but that's at a central transfer point between two subway lines so it might not be convenient.


GravatarMy neice who is living in Austin (and a new graduate -Masters in Music Ed!!)just told me that Austin incorporates the town's bus service with the University buses.

Noho was at the center of the 5 college system and they had a pretty good system of their own that was free between the colleges. But it was still time consuming because the traffic sucked at certain times of day.


GravatarBut, but, Pastor Hagee LOVES Israel, because then Armageddon can come, and the Crapture, and....


GravatarAnd I wish they'd stop!

Point taken. I just couldn't resist that last one.


GravatarStamford is pretty far. But yeah Metro North is expensive. I was considering the ferry from New Jersey and it's $235 and month or more. That's a lot of money!


Gravatar"Lettuce pray...Heh, heh, git it?"


GravatarThe economics of mass transit, everywhere, pretty much, demand subsidies. But the balance sheets restrict folks' ability to make the case for them. So costs of policing, trauma, highway maintenance, and so on aren't included in, say, one's auto insurance bill, but, rather, are raised from general revenues. And the benefits of, say, real estate development around a new transit hub aren't factored in.

The case can be made, and, at $4/gal, will be made.


GravatarThe denial by Social Security disability mucked that up, and with a years-long backlong of cases.......

I hear you.

Atrios, I promise never to mention HRC again if you ban it.


GravatarA lot of colleges take this on themselves: the university here has their own fleet. But it's not integrated with the city or county transportation in any way.
Molly Ivors
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The University of DE has its own fleet. But the city of Newark subsidized their students last summer by running their routes with the city buses. It makes sense for us to work something out that is more equitable.
We have huge areas(including mine) that don't get any buses through besides the UD buses.


Gravatarthree of our subway trains are powered by rope-pulling cloned-replicas, almost human, of ancient egyptian slaves, the ones who built the pyramids.

pretty weird but hey whatever works.


GravatarIf the Freeway Bloggers would paste a big "Statue to Subsidy" placard on aircraft control towers everywhere, people might start to notice where money actually gets spent.


Gravatarnj: we don't disagree; I think the human race's consciousness of such things has expanded vastly since Faulkner's day. But I concur with Faulkner that the problems we face are solvable, every last one of them, and that pessimism and cynicism, which are so inviting these days, are a trap.


Gravatar[man will endure] because he has a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance.
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Jain philosophy, based on "atoms" separates the universe into jiva and ajiva (alive and non-alive) just for convenience of talking. ALL matter (which includes "soul") is a gradation of particles from gross to fine, vibrating at different rates of speed.

The difference between soul and a rock a matter of size and speed.


Gravatar Public transport in the area here is largely to and from Boston.

Same with Philadelphia. My brother lives in a suburb. I had some work at St. Joes, so I figured I'd take the train and stay with him the night before.

But to get from his house to st joe's by SEPTA meant going into center city, and then out again, in a pretty acute V.

Zipcar rental for a weekday is about the same as RT Amtrak trip, because the actually sustainable NE corridor is subsidizing the rest of the system.

So I end up driving. Paying less than my total cost to the economy, including externalities and subsidies, to drive rather then the socially preferred mass transit.

The whole thing is perverse.


GravatarJain philosophy, based on "atoms" separates the universe into jiva and ajiva (alive and non-alive) just for convenience of talking. ALL matter (which includes "soul") is a gradation of particles from gross to fine, vibrating at different rates of speed.

The difference between soul and a rock a matter of size and speed.
el | 05.24.08 - 8:43 am | #



that's probably closer to whatever 'is' than a lot of ideas coming out of the west.


Gravatarpessimism and cynicism, which are so inviting these days, are a trap

well, they certainly invite laziness and the "Kitty Genovese" way of thinking. 


Gravatarman, that sarcasm bites. Too bad the crack NYT reporters don't know how to use teh blog.


GravatarObama's speech to Cuban Americans contained remarks about "Clean Coal". There is no such thing. Has he ever said anything about solar?


Gravatarsolar coal?


Gravatarwhen i think about coal i am reminded of what happened in june of 1968.


and with that, off to work.


GravatarNo. Obama hates the sun and all creatures who dwell in the light. Now fuck off.


Gravatar"Lettuce pray...Heh, heh, git it?"


How is it that a chick from NYC gets the Southern thing so well?



GravatarThe DFH New Seasons Market highlighted
veggie burgers in their ad this week under the headline: Don't Have A Cow!


GravatarHe must love the hell out of you CoT.


GravatarAll the Jews have moved to Iowa to raise pigs.

/Mainstream Media/


Gravatarman, that sarcasm bites. Too bad the crack NYT reporters don't know how to use teh blog.
DonS
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Although I notice the statement "this opinion repeated in the blogosphere") tells me they are reading.


GravatarJust got this in my email.

"As its closest allies cut deals with their adversaries this week over the Bush administration's opposition, Washington was largely reduced to watching.

More painfully for President Bush , friends he's cultivated— and spent heavily on— in Lebanon and Iraq asked the United States to remain in the background, underlining how politically toxic an association with the U.S. can be for Arab leaders."

So much for Bush brokering a peace deal.


GravatarHe must love the hell out of you CoT.
Clean Coal


[hands trool piece of rat cheese]

Here - this will go well with that whine.


Gravatar
How is it that a chick from NYC gets the Southern thing so well?


one of my co-workers couldn't tell his old aunties from N.C. that a white chick from NYC had made the pecan pie they were enjoying.  It would have killed them, he said.


Gravatarwt: yup; the whole country's getting murdered in the alley, and too many people aren't dropping a dime. But that looks like it's changing, just a bit...


GravatarMolly -

Are Cake a good band? (They're headlining this Earth Day fracas I'm off to in a couple of hours - English Beat, Cracker, BoDeans also on the bill...)

And, AFAIK, a weekly Boston transit pass (subway and buses) is still only 15 bucks - would that I still worked downtown, rather than at a suburban borg...


Gravatarpretty weird but hey whatever works.
juan ono
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you are making the morning ever so much more cheerful


GravatarRuth Reichl put a pulled-pork sandwich on the cover of Gourmet this month, and lived.


GravatarObama's speech to Cuban Americans contained remarks about "Clean Coal". There is no such thing. Has he ever said anything about solar?


This is one of those boondoggles that a lot of politicians--particularly from the northeast and northern midwest--have embraced, in large part because they don't really know the technical aspects of it. They do, however, understand the politics of coal, and Illinois is a coal-producing state.

There are many, many politicians who are going to have to have some manner of political reeducation when it comes to what's going to work and what's going to be implementable in a carbon-conscious economy.


Gravatarone of my co-workers couldn't tell his old aunties from N.C. that a white chick from NYC had made the pecan pie they were enjoying. It would have killed them, he said.

LOL. Sad but true, outside of the RTP. The Raleigh Durham bubble is more tolerant of Yankees. I guess because there's so many of us here.


GravatarMy internist would think it a very good thing that North Carolina pulled pork isn't available within a few miles of my abode...


GravatarObama also knows you don't introduce yourself to people by alienating them -- his model seems more like hospital care: gentle pressure, steadily applied.


GravatarMontag, Obama is brilliant. I doubt he doesn't know about coal and the fact that it is always dirty. Pander Bear.


GravatarAre Cake a good band? (They're headlining this Earth Day fracas I'm off
to in a couple of hours - English Beat, Cracker, BoDeans also on the
bill...)




Oooh, oooh, can I answer this one?



YES!


GravatarRuth Reichl put a pulled-pork sandwich on the cover of Gourmet this month, and lived.

I've been living here for over three years and still haven't worked up the nerve to try one of those.


GravatarOTOH, one pulled-pork sandwich every couple years might could probably be okay. I have not had one in years.


GravatarIf they're good enough for WT, they're good enough for me...


GravatarMontag, Obama is brilliant. I doubt he doesn't know about coal and the fact that it is always dirty. Pander Bear.

He may be brilliant at the law.

How is he at fuel chemistry and coal cleaning?


GravatarAccording to my tv, mayonnaise is a health food now. Rich in natural ingredients and omega 3s.


GravatarMy internist would think it a very good thing that North Carolina pulled pork isn't available within a few miles of my abode...

(Sends Wombat a parcel from the Blue Ribbon Barbecue, the culinary jewel of lovely Arlington...)


GravatarNote that Bush is always talking about switchgrass and ethanol production from it as if he's a savant, even though he's gotten the Classic Comics version of the science.

There are many, many politicians with that ability.


Gravatarone of my co-workers couldn't tell his old aunties from N.C. that a white chick from NYC had made the pecan pie they were enjoying. It would have killed them, he said.


You make pecan pie? Damn - you're an honorary Southernor then.

If you ever see the aunts, refer to it as Karo pecan pie (pronounced KAY-ROE puh-KAHN). They'll git it.


GravatarSmart Balance Light Mayonnaise Dressing, as it is called, is quite high in Omega-3's.


GravatarAccording to my tv, mayonnaise is a health food now. Rich in natural ingredients and omega 3s.

According to the intertube ads, corn syrup is the best thing for you!


GravatarMontag,

If he isn't brilliant about energy and prepared to do something smart about it we are likely in a lot of trouble. He can't not know this about coal.


GravatarI think they must teach this stuff in J-school. Or rather, they don't teach the right thing. I'm just now editing some copy from a recent grad, and she also just inserts these vague assertions, no factual back-up. It's annoying.


GravatarBill Buckner,

They're wry and funny and sarcastic...


GravatarGood news.

As a white person, I quite enjoy pastrami on white with mayonnaise.


GravatarSmart Balance Light Mayonnaise Dressing, as it is called, is quite high in Omega-3's.

I hate their mayonnaise but the fake butter is pretty good. I gave up real butter for it.


GravatarClean Coal, why don't you lend your massive scientific expertise to the Obama campaign, if you can figure out how to stop being such an asshole?


GravatarI've been living here for over three years and still haven't worked up the nerve to try one of those.


You don't know that you're missing. Smoked barbecue done right is gourmet cuisine.


GravatarI adjusted to their mayo, and the spread; the doctor made me do it.


GravatarYou make pecan pie? Damn - you're an honorary Southernor then.

If you ever see the aunts, refer to it as Karo pecan pie (pronounced KAY-ROE puh-KAHN). They'll git it.
billy b


And then there is mock pecan pie, which I have made and served, and no one knew there were no pecans in it.


GravatarGet back under your rock Plantsman. The sunlight will destroy you.


GravatarWhy, I'm paralyzed by your rapier wit! Not.


GravatarAre Cake a good band?
bill buckner


It's sort of hard choosing between the latest Cake album and the latest Death album.


GravatarYou don't know that you're missing. Smoked barbecue done right is gourmet cuisine.

That's what I hear but I worry about trichinosis. I've read about a few outbreaks. They don't seem to be big on health regs where I am.


GravatarMorning, all

Still gathering ire, plantsman. Congratulation, you must be pushing the right buttons, sir.


Gravatar(Sends Wombat a parcel from the Blue Ribbon Barbecue, the culinary jewel of lovely Arlington...)
bill buckner


bill,

where i Ahhh-lington is it?


GravatarLimpballs:

Why don't we quit tiptoeing through the tulips? Why don't we just shut down the Republican Party and all become Democrats, if that's the way to go. If McCain picking a Democrat, if unifying with Democrats, if walking across the aisle to do deals with Democrats, if that's the way to go, then to hell with Republican Partyism. Let's just all become Democrats, why put up a fight? Just become Democrats and end it. Because we have to end the partisan rancor. We have to end the partisan rancor and show that we have a big tent. Well, we have rancor in a democracy. Rancor is a good thing in a democracy. Maybe McCain should pick a female Hispanic lesbian Democrat running mate. That would unite us. That's the way to go."

If you know any FHLDs, Limpy, send their names to McStain.


GravatarIf he isn't brilliant about energy and prepared to do something smart about it we are likely in a lot of trouble. He can't not know this about coal.


The above is about as naive a statement as one can make.


GravatarAs a white person, I quite enjoy pastrami on white with mayonnaise.
Culture of TrÜth


Now that is just wrong.


Gravataroh, those Joos. you know, i sort of remember back in 2000, when the SCLM was telling us how black and latina/os where also "trending republican like never before." we all (hopefully) understand that was utter bunk. and anyway, it's not like we have so many hebraic-americans when the numbers are fleshed out. there are some states where it makes a difference, but nationally? not so much. honestly, i'm sort of confused. is it FL that makes "the jewish vote" so important just now? i can never fully understand why the SCLM chooses to focus upon what it does. to my mind, they mostly confound me.

gmorning peeps.


GravatarI adjusted to their mayo, and the spread; the doctor made me do it.
plantsman, less blue


Yeah, my doctor is a big bully too. That's why I switched from real butter and started eating low-fat cheese.


Gravatar
They're wry and funny and sarcastic...


Much like your lovely self, dear.. Liked the clip. Thanks!


Gravatarbill,
Cake are a decent band. I like them.


GravatarWe have to end the partisan rancor and show that we have a big tent. Well, we have rancor in a democracy. Rancor is a good thing in a democracy. Maybe McCain should pick a female Hispanic lesbian Democrat running mate. That would unite us. That's the way to go."


And, without a rancorous atmosphere, Limbaugh would quickly be out of a job....


GravatarAnd then there is mock pecan pie, which I have made and served, and no one knew there were no pecans in it.


I've heard of same, but never had the pleasure.


GravatarI do not think when you write for the NY Times, you have to be bothered with facts. I mean William Kristol is factually challenged; mangling facts before he came to the NYTimes. Clearly this is a journalistic direction that the Times has chosen. It also follows the tradition the Times pioneered with Judith Miller. Little Tommy Friedman, the poster boy of what is wrong with journalism in this country, goes travelling the world and makes up encounters with taxe drivers and shoe shine boys that strangely always agree with him. Facts are passe. This is post-factual journalism.


Gravatarlate to the thread, poor as a mutha, breaking my own general rule about this sort of thing, but:

Atrios, $100 to Obama if you ban mimi.
qlª


i'm setting aside a 20 right now for this effort. can it be real?


GravatarAs a white person, I quite enjoy pastrami on white with mayonnaise.
Culture of TrÜth

Now that is just wrong.
qlª


Good thing he didn't mention the lettuce and tomatoes.

Hey ql, I thought of you at this party last night. This young hipster with a bunch of tattoos had one that said "Born to Quilt"


Gravatarbill, here's to hoping they do their cover of "I Will Survive".




GravatarI don't know how Daryn Kagan, who must have a high tolerance for bozos given her family, could stand to be around Rush.


GravatarI worry about trichinosis. I've read about a few outbreaks.
Libby


CDC:


" Is trichinellosis common in the United States?

Infection was once very common and usually caused by ingestion of undercooked pork. However, infection is now relatively rare. During 1997-2001, an average of 12 cases per year were reported. The number of cases has decreased because of legislation prohibiting the feeding of raw-meat garbage to hogs, commercial and home freezing of pork, and the public awareness of the danger of eating raw or undercooked pork products. Cases are less commonly associated with pork products and more often associated with eating raw or undercooked wild game meats."


You've got a better chance of being on a plane with Mohammed Atta than you do of getting Trichinosis.


Gravatar(Shhh! I think it may be gone. If so, $100 to Obama from me)


GravatarCake are a decent band. I like them.
Molly Ivors


"reluctantly crouched at the starting line..."

that's like, the best str8 sex song evah. seriously.

"he's going the distance!"


GravatarWell, I've finished my post, and the garden awaits. Have a lovely day, kids!


GravatarThat's what I hear but I worry about trichinosis. I've read about a few outbreaks. They don't seem to be big on health regs where I am.


As long as the pork is cooked properly, that shouldn't be a problem.


GravatarI have a 80 year old pecan tree in my back yard. Looks like it is going to have a lot of pecans this year. Frost got them last year.

Lexington nc has a BBQ(pulled-pork) festival every year. I think about 100K people show up.


Gravatarwatertiger makes a mean chocolate pecan pie, too.


Gravatarand having had shaw kenawe's cooking, I can safely say "believe her."

delicioso.


GravatarAnd then there is mock pecan pie, which I have made and served, and no one knew there were no pecans in it.


I've heard of same, but never had the pleasure.
billy b


It's made with whole oats instead of pecans, all the other ingredients are the same as a pecan pie.


Gravatar"Born to Quilt"
racymind


Heh.

I love it when people seemed surprised to hear me say "fuck."


GravatarLexington nc has a BBQ(pulled-pork) festival every year. I think about 100K people show up.
overthehillhippie


Lots of good bar-b-que between Charlotte and Greensboro.


GravatarOkay, let's have multiple clean coal plants all over the damned countryside.


Gravatar
where i Ahhh-lington is it?


Mass Ave right by the High School, right around the corner from chez Buckner. I request - nay DEMAND - that you and R join me some evening. (Their "Get In Here And Eat" sign still cracks me up...)


GravatarThe recipes from this month's Gourmet may be at gourmet.com, I dunno. The photography is gorgeous, and the slaw and bean salad are appropriate for cardiac patients.


Gravatarhat's like, the best str8 sex song evah. seriously.

Funny muthafuckas.  John McCrea's vocals don't appeal to everyone, but I love 'im.


GravatarYou've got a better chance of being on a plane with Mohammed Atta than you do of getting Trichinosis.

That's what I thought too but I read about the outbreaks last summer or the summer before. I think more than 12 people got sick. I live way on the far edge of the RTP and don't get into the big city much.

But I should be braver surely. I got a tip recently from a beer salesman that there's a place a few miles down the road that has the best sandwiches in the RTP. I may try it one of these days.


Gravatarwatertiger makes a mean chocolate pecan pie, too.

it's the bourbon.


GravatarFace it, we have mega-multiple dirty coal plants all over the damned countryside as it is.


Gravatar"we'll play dumb about stats for you"-McCainstream Media to kept man McCombover


GravatarHeh.

I love it when people seemed surprised to hear me say "fuck."
qlª


I know. Whenever I am in a meeting with my boss and other administrators, they are always surprised when I say "fuck." Like, what's the big deal?

Or were you thinking of another context?



GravatarJust now while walking the dog:

Me: "Good morning, Howard"

Dr Dean: "Morning, [Gromit]"

Me: "Pretending to work in your yard again?"

Dr Dean: "Um, yeah. Heh."

Me: Moves right along, whistling nonchalantly.


GravatarHere's another article claiming Obama's failure to capture the Jewish vote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/ 2008...080522general01


GravatarFace it, we have mega-multiple dirty coal plants all over the damned countryside as it is.
plantsman, less blue

You know, if we stopped spending a half billion a day fighting a fucking war in Iraq we would have plenty of money for alternative energy of all sorts. . . .


Gravatar"Sheep go to heaven, goats go to hell..."


GravatarLibby, Our State (down home in North Carolina) Magazine documents good Carolina eats all over the State every month.


GravatarThat's the whole point Plantsman. There isn't anything else where coal is involved.


Gravatarit's the bourbon.

You cook better when drunk?


GravatarYou've got a better chance of being on a plane with Mohammed Atta than you do of getting Trichinosis.


[high fives jac]

Thanks. When I was a kid, we used to 'slop' the hogs. That meant feeding them garbage as is mentioned in your post.


Gravatar"bold marquees with stupid band names, I doan wanna go to Sunset....

Striiiiip."

I love Cake.


Gravatarmimi's tight with interpol and the secret service. We should be scared, she'll get us kicked out of Europe and North America both. Powerful, she is.


Gravatargromit,

If I were ambitious I would ask if you wanted one of the twenty extra copies of the Holocaust book I co-wrote with a survivor that are taking up space on my bookshelf: but the day is lovely, and, of late, I am notoriously lazy.


GravatarCake are a decent band. I like them.
____

Cake playing in Boston today, earth day celebration.


GravatarWell, I guess I think taking the dimmest view possible and getting upset before the fact is energy that would be better spent influencing policy in a positive way.


GravatarMe: Moves right along, whistling nonchalantly.

"Face it, Gromit.  You snarked ON Howard Dean."

/Otter, "Animal House"


GravatarOkay, let's have multiple clean coal plants all over the damned countryside.


Umm, I get the feeling that you're being provocative intentionally.

So, in the interests of clarity, let me repeat myself. I don't think Obama, like virtually all politicians, knows that "clean coal" is, at current technology, a boondoggle to keep that mature industry at the subsidy trough.

And, I repeat, he does likely know the politics of coal.


Those are two entirely different things. And, as I say, with some reeducation, he'll eventually see that coal is a technological dead-end.

He's probably very much like most politicians in this regard. What will make him a better politician than most is if there are indications that he is willing to listen on this particular subject.


Gravatarhe's your neighbor, gromit? that's fucking cool as shit.

During 1997-2001, an average of 12 cases per year were reported.

ok, i'm paranoid, but you know- the last 8 years or so, i've sort of lost all faith with gummit stats. and, i am also pretty sure that "regulation" under this admin is more or less a complete joke, and rich rethug donors like factory farming, can fill a lake with pig shit in a day, tyson/whomever it is that makes industrial pork, isn't exactly 1) practicing safe meat handling/farming like they used to and 2) not getting inspected like they used to. i mean really- did we *ever* hear about downer cows and poisoned food in the clinton years, as we have during the chimp occupation?

republicans kill. i'll leave it at that.


Gravatar

bold marquees with stupid band names, I doan wanna go to Sunset....Striiiiip."
Another one of my favorites.


GravatarI am not being provocative in regards to what you say, Montag--merely answering the idiots who ARE being provocative.


GravatarLots of good bar-b-que between Charlotte and Greensboro.

I'm between Greensboro and Durham and Chapel Hill.

Libby, Our State (down home in North Carolina) Magazine documents good Carolina eats all over the State every month.

I don't get that one. Thanks for the tip. I'll look for it. I need to get out more. I rarely leave Hillsborough.


GravatarThat's what I thought too but I read about the outbreaks last summer or the summer before.
Libby


When I was a kid, we used to 'slop' the hogs. That meant feeding them garbage as is mentioned in your post.
billy b


Exactly. Hog production has changed drastically since the 60s and 70s. Some of the changes aren't great (like the ponds of waste water in Libby's area), but the product on the table bears little resemblance to what you would have eaten 40 years ago.


GravatarOkay, let's have multiple clean coal plants all over the damned countryside.
Clean Coal | 05.24.08 - 9:13 am | #


my brides await


GravatarOr were you thinking of another context?


racymind


I think we're on the same wavelength. It's just that people have a preconceived notion of who and what quilters are. Little old ladies or Amish women at a bee. Fuck isn't associated with them. Neither is fucking I wager.


GravatarI am not being provocative in regards to what you say, Montag--merely answering the idiots who ARE being provocative.


Look in the mirror if you want to see an idiot.


GravatarG'morning peeps! Your daily schadenfreude:
Bush a fundraising dud, White House blames McCain campaign


Gravatarmimi's tight with interpol and the secret service

"FREE MOLLY IVORS! FREE MOLLY IVORS! ATTICA!"


GravatarNC is littered with hog lagoons from industrial pork operations, but on the local level one can get to know one's restaurant operators and judge their standards.


Gravatargosh, is that another 20$ i just found? wow. amazing how these things happen.


GravatarDWD, Thanks for thinking of me. Just sent my info to your comcast email. You're a good one.


GravatarOur State is also online in some form.


Gravatarand then, FREE WIFI!


GravatarSince I am a vampire I don't have a mirror reflection, billy b.


Gravatarbut the product on the table bears little resemblance to what you would have eaten 40 years ago.


Sadly, healthier hog meat isn't as good as it used to be.

Back in the day, pork BBQ would be wrapped in wax paper and put in a brown paper bag. By the time you got home with it, the grease would have soaked the paper bag.


GravatarFacts are passe. This is post-factual journalism.

It all started with Norman Mailer, a guy who took up journalism 20 years after earning acclaim as America's premier writer of fiction. Then Gore Vidal got into the act, using fiction to revise history. Then Tom Wolfe trumped them both with his electric kool aid acid test and that kicked open the door for the ultimate gonzo journalist, Hunter Thompson. Since then it's been standard operating procedure to invent facts as needed for any truth it pays to propound.


GravatarLittle old ladies or Amish women at a bee. Fuck isn't associated with them. Neither is fucking I wager.
qlª


Nah... this girl was a late twentysomething, bi-racial, urban sort, with a purposeful touch of ghetto. And very hot, too.


GravatarLittle old ladies or Amish women at a bee.

not that there's anything wrong with being that!

heh, ql, i'm so sorry we didn't meet at the first kosvegas fest. were you there, i can't remember. anyway, the quilting people there said "fuck," and other stuff. some of them were bluehairs, some not. anyway, i was jealous and impressed by their quilting for librulism project, seriously.


Gravatarthe last 8 years or so, i've sort of lost all faith with gummit stats
__

Anyone see Moyer last night? Had a segment on a Milwaukee paper that took on the big story of bpa (?) type plastic, which is used in drinks bottles, lining of all cans, baby bottles and children's toys.

Now banned for young children's products, this paper researched the EPS's 12-year failure to even research ONE chemical on it's list. And the usual story of the industry tests deemed valid, while the university lab tests (showing links to breast, testicular, ovarian cancer, ADHD, obesity) were stricken for "poor facilities for research".

Not a surprise of course.


Gravatarpeople have a preconceived notion of who and what quilters are. Little old ladies or Amish women at a bee. Fuck isn't associated with them. Neither is fucking I wager.
qlª



That's just ridiculous. Look at all the little Amish kids running around. What, they're all kidnapped as babies?

It's the SHAKERS that didn't fuck, and they died out.



GravatarLou Reed, then KT Tunstall, now Elvis Costello...

this is even better than the old WLIR.


Gravatarsorry, EPS=EPA


Gravatarmimi's tight
Moe Szyslak


I think it's weed more than booze.


Gravatar(like the ponds of waste water in Libby's area)

Those ponds are astounding. We have one in the back of my McPartment complex here. It's deep and not fenced and there's a lot of kids around here. I'm surprised the insurance companies let them do it.


Gravatarchidyke, I've never been a Kossite. Not even a regular reader.


GravatarHow is everyone this fine morning?


GravatarWhen I wuz a wee lad in Greensboro, The Boar and Castle was it!


GravatarThat was a great Cake vid.

Does this good NYC radio station have an internet feed? What were the call letters?


GravatarIt's the SHAKERS that didn't fuck, and they died out.


Not entirely true. According to Wiki there are 4 Shakers left in a community in Maine.


GravatarSadly, healthier hog meat isn't as good as it used to be.

Back in the day, pork BBQ would be wrapped in wax paper and put in a brown paper bag. By the time you got home with it, the grease would have soaked the paper bag.
billy b


And the all-you-can-eat catfish houses.

Grease is the best food group ever.


Gravatarkarma, bitch


GravatarThanks for the earworm, Moe.


GravatarI think it's weed more than booze.
jac


There's the A+ analysis.

I can't think of many things more ludicrous than the Secret Service worrying about Molly I.


GravatarNot entirely true. According to Wiki there are 4 sexually frustrated Shakers left in a community in Maine.
Southern Beale


Fixed your typo.

(I mean, really - "Let's start a religion where no one fucks, and ask people to join it." Who came up with that plan?)


GravatarGrease is the best food group ever.

One summer in high school I 'cooked' at a Dairy Queen-- burgers, fries, onion rings, hot dogs.

The end of the day cleanup was so freaking disgusting. Grease everywhere, including me. Yuck. Ptooie. Blech.


Gravatar/0000s of anger emoticons/

that's it. i'm building a nukyular weapon. i went to Chicago, we do that, for scav hunts in our spare time. anyway, it's Time. deer must be Eliminated.

/weeps over lost black tulips/ i'm coming for you, Bitches.


GravatarGrease is insidiously tied into diabetes, dammit.


GravatarI think it's weed more than booze.

Yes, jimson weed.


GravatarDoes this good NYC radio station have an internet feed? What were the call letters?

WRXP.  Stream on the right sidebar.


GravatarI can't think of many things more ludicrous than the Secret Service worrying about Molly I.
billy b


I can think of one thing more ludicrous - sitting in mom's basement, pretending to be annie, mimi, and Elias, and spending 24 hours a day here trying to get attention.


GravatarBlack tulips eaten? Oh, no -- RPG's may be required.


GravatarMorning, all.

It's raining right now here in the beautiful western San Fernando Valley. Unusual for this time of year.


GravatarOh god, the media has discovered the term "stay-cation."


Gravatar
(I mean, really - "Let's start a religion where no one fucks, and ask people to join it." Who came up with that plan?)


Add "or has a job" and you've got Trollism.


GravatarFor those who weren't here yesterday, Someone Special had the least self-aware post ever--

"What's the difference between narcissism and borderline personality disorder?"

Had to go home and change my undies, I did.


Gravatarthx for the link, wt...

I miss real radio.


GravatarI can't think of many things more ludicrous than the Secret Service worrying about Molly I.

"She said the man in the gabardine suit was a spy/
I said be careful, his bow tie is really a camera..."

/S&G


GravatarAdd "or has a job" and you've got Trollism.

watertiger


Allen Butler is a Shaker?

Makes sense.


GravatarAnd the all-you-can-eat catfish houses.

Grease is the best food group ever.


About 20 years ago, someone figured out how to fillet a catfish and cook it in peanut oil. That was a nice improvement, IMHO.

Fried cat, jalapeno/onion hushpuppies, cole slaw, and pickled green tomatoes.


GravatarFor those who weren't here yesterday, Someone Special had the least self-aware post ever--

"What's the difference between narcissism and borderline personality disorder?"

Had to go home and change my undies, I did.
Gromit


Topped only by "someone accused me of having BPD."


Gravatarhushpuppies? Stop it, y'all !


Gravatar"She said the man in the gabardine suit was a spy/
I said be careful, his bow tie is really a camera..."

/S&G
bill buckner
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She'll know for sure if he starts talking into his shoe. (Maxwell Smart) (the original with Don Adams)


Gravatarplants, would you like to take a shooting vacation? i've got a nice room for you, and splenda-based sweets i'll feed you. Dog is away this weekend, so i can't borrow his semi. i hear deer jerky is low in fat and very healthy for you, as far as meats go.


GravatarI miss real radio.

I felt the same way about the old WLIR after it changed formats from alt/rock to Top 40 crap.  I was heartbroken.

The DJ on right now (Paul Calvaconte) hails from the halcyon days at WLIR.


GravatarYes, jimson weed.
montag


heh.

Also known as Loco Weed.


GravatarFound this at TPM while clicking through the links on a post down the page

"Obama's 'Jewish problem' is not being dependent on AIPAC"

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo...em-is-not- b.php

which is not to say there isn't a fair degree of racism amongst Jews


GravatarThere's a story....I took an NRA course as a kid, passed it; went hunting, shot a doe out of stupidity, haven't been able to bear shooting since.


GravatarI miss real radio.
racymind


so don't! seriously, do you have iTunes? it's a godsend for the lazy like me. plenty of commercial free, constantly updated, every category of music you can imagine, preprogrammed channels, all just a click away. yes, i'm no longer Hip. but i pretend well, via some of my fav stations that i have on my iTunes radio. again let me stress: preprogrammed and commercial free. not all, but many.


GravatarSimels recommended 101.9 back in March or so. I added it to my faves. It's cool.

Local tv: "The most beautiful woman in New York City"


GravatarI miss real radio.

Commercial radio sucks pumice here, as everywhere. But we have pretty consistently great college radio in Beantown - I'm listening to my hero John Funke as we speak. Best goddamned roots rock show in the universe!


Gravatarobama's problem with a lot of stupid washington part-of-the-problem losers is that he doesn't need to kiss their asses for money.


Gravatargood catch, Don S


Gravatarplants, would you like to take a shooting vacation? i've got a nice room for you, and splenda-based sweets i'll feed you. Dog is away this weekend, so i can't borrow his semi. i hear deer jerky is low in fat and very healthy for you, as far as meats go.
chicago dyke, sunny&happy
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I know I am butting in and I beg your indulgence, but Plantsman do you have any trouble eating Splenda? My father isn't diabetic yet, but has a sensitivity to sugar, and he says that Splenda effects him worse than sugar does. Sugar causes Dad to have severe depression and Splenda makes it twice as bad, and I was just wondering if it does the same with anyone else.

Again I apologize for interupting.


Gravatar[Imagining Chicago Dyke with bandana and pickup truck stalking the suburbs for deer, then coming home for a vegetarian dinner from her garden, followed by dancing and hot sex]

You meet the most interesting people here. And I love it.


GravatarI've got babysitting duty with the grandtyke this afternoon. Must go blog before I leave or I'll never get anything posted today. Thanks for all the local info everybody.


GravatarThere's a story....I took an NRA course as a kid, passed it; went hunting, shot a doe out of stupidity, haven't been able to bear shooting since.
plantsman


Yeah, I pretty much swore off killing things after I killed something as a kid.

"Hunting for pleasure" is a concept I can't understand.


Gravatarut we have pretty consistently great college radio in Beantown
__

Emerson?


GravatarAgain I apologize for interupting.

What is this, some kinda fucking garden party?


Gravataryeah, cd I have iTunes and I hop around looking for stuff. Still, there's nothing like a dj to pull stuff together for you in new and interesting ways.


GravatarIt took a long while for Splenda to taste sweet to me, but it began to, and I don't have bad reaction to it. But aspartame, I can't abide. Peoples' chemistries varies. I miss sugared iced tea.


GravatarWhat is this, some kinda fucking garden party?
Moe Szyslak


I think racymind had it right yesterday - "Roadhouse."


GravatarYou really do.

We had a most enjoyable evening last night in the park.


GravatarSimels recommended 101.9 back in March or so. I added it to my faves. It's cool.

that's when I switched off NPR.  I'd much rather listen to the Stones' "Beast of Burden" first thing in the morning.


GravatarHow come Obama faces a racial divide but McCain doesn't? Do racial divides disappear when they are old and white?


GravatarMoe Szyslak | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 9:44 am

funny, I was just thinking that's a considerate blogger, unlike the way I muscle in, considerate.


GravatarThis is a public service announcement for those Atriots who are single and under 35.

I am on vacation with wife, nephew and father in law, in Boulder CO. I have never seen so many attractive young people in one place. (I'm 56 and not a dirty old man. But I'm not blind.) Everyone is very fit. It's also the most agressively environmentally friendly town I've seen.

You could do worse.


GravatarYeah, I pretty much swore off killing things after I killed something as a kid.

"Hunting for pleasure" is a concept I can't understand.
jac
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Remember the old Andy Griffith show when Opie shot the song bird with his sling shot and then had to raise the baby birds? Loved that show.


GravatarGreat radio station in Vermont is WNCS (The Point). Independent, progressive with very eclectic mix. And the mid day DJ on weekdays is a scottish woman with a voice to fall in love with.

http://www.pointfm.com/

Streaming links on the right.


GravatarHundreds of people e-mail Alan Dershowitz to ask him for whom they should vote?!


GravatarGood morning.

I listen to Radio Paradise all the time.

Use to love WLIR also.
I was working in Delaware and came home one weekend turned on the radio an Mexican music was on.
I was like WTF?
It got bought by Univision.


GravatarChiDy, racy,

today's playlist thus far.


GravatarGromit,

It would be fun to organize an upstate NY/VT get together. Not that we're inviting ourselves up.


Gravatar
that's when I switched off NPR. I'd much rather listen to the Stones' "Beast of Burden" first thing in the morning.

watertiger | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 9:45 am | #


I find myself muttering "concern troll" when i hear npr "news" these days.


GravatarToo bad about all the religious fundies around Boulder then, innit?


Gravatargood morning, Moe! /mwah/ gromit, ya, that's more or less about right. 'cept i have a jeep, i sold the pickup a while back.

my father is a diabetic and he uses splenda. never had a 'bad reaction' to it. he doesn't like any other nonsugar substitute either. myself, i think it tastes fine and i don't mind using it at all.


GravatarRemember the old Andy Griffith show when Opie shot the song bird with his sling shot and then had to raise the baby birds? Loved that show.
foolme1ns


"Come on, Winken!"


GravatarIt's also the most agressively environmentally friendly town I've seen.

Wave to JeffCO if you see him!


GravatarWhat is this, some kinda fucking garden party?


I went to a garden party
and out stepped Johnny B. Goode
playin' guitar like a ringin' a bell
and lookin' like he should

[paraphrased]


GravatarEmerson is one, and the BU and Harvard stations are pretty good. (RIP Brian Sinclair - "Hillbilly at Harvard.")

But I'm mostly partial to the crazy motherfuckers at MIT:

http://wmbr.mit.edu/


GravatarHundreds of people e-mail Alan Dershowitz to ask him for whom they should vote?!
ExecutedToday | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 9:47 am | #


Mental health professionals who love to get together at bars, drink, and compare the insane letters they get back from Alan while laughing sardonically.


GravatarWhat is this, some kinda fucking garden party?
Moe Szyslak
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No, Moe, sweetheart. It's called manners. I'm from the south and you don't butt in on someone elses conversation to change the subject without apologizing to those involved for the interuption. It doesn't hurt anyone and shows an amount of respect for the people who were speaking first.


GravatarToo bad about all the religious fundies around Boulder then, innit?


There are some there, but the real concentration (the ones I would guess you're referencing) are in Colorado Springs.

CS is Ted Haggard country.


Gravatar"Come on, Winken!"
jac
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aw, that made me smile. Thanks.


GravatarIt took a long while for Splenda to taste sweet to me, but it began to, and I don't have bad reaction to it. But aspartame, I can't abide. Peoples' chemistries varies. I miss sugared iced tea.
plantsman, less blue
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Thank you. I guess it is all a matter of individual chemisty.


GravatarJust kidding, foolme1ns.

billyb-- that's what I was thinking. Ricky Nelson, grew up and was pissed. Good on him.

One of these days I need to hang out with CD. It should be a goal or something.


Gravatar
I find myself muttering "concern troll" when i hear npr "news" these days.


I'm still trying to blot the sound of Steve Inskeep's simpering from my memory.


GravatarI'll admit it : Chocolate Fudge Jello Sugar-Free Fat-Free Instant pudding rocks when other desserts are out of the question.


GravatarYeah, I pretty much swore off killing things after I killed something as a kid.

Heh, me too. My foster father was on the Air Force pistol team. Taught me how to shoot. I can drill a hole through a tree with a .22 snub-nose from 100ft. But I can't kill some defenseless critter that's just trying to get through an already tough world.

OTOH, whenever rightards bloviate about "having all the guns" I gets me an evil grin.



Gravatar"Mood" on a radio program is a funny thing. Not easily defined, easily understood (kinda like porn). Some have no good concept of it and go all over the place unpleasantly.

Others can keep a mood and still cover a lot of musical ground. Some dj's seem to have a better sense of how I feel after a particular song, then take me home again with the next song. And I love it when they do it with stuff I have never heard before...


GravatarThere are some there, but the real concentration (the ones I would guess you're referencing) are in Colorado Springs.


If I'm ever in a large concentration of the fundemented, I find it fairly easy to ignore them...


Gravatarwatertgoddess, v'nice! i'm too lazy to link, but imho WHPK UChicago radio rawks, and in that way which includes lots of brown, black and 'international' type muzak. for a bunch of rich white kids (and one really funny south side old black man with about 000 girlfriends) it's pretty kewl.

"Roadhouse."

snort. i often think of "queer as folk" when i think of this place. cmon, you know it's true for at the very least, all our trolls.


GravatarIt would be fun to organize an upstate NY/VT get together. Not that we're inviting ourselves up...

I'm in. I grew up in VT, and know how to drive around the herds of cattle, and such...


GravatarGromit,

It would be fun to organize an upstate NY/VT get together. Not that we're inviting ourselves up.
Culture of TrÜth


I'm hoping to do so, in July or early August. We can put some people up for a weekend, and there's a big park next door we can and local accommodations range from a city-run campground (with WiFi) to el luxo country inns.

Am maxed out on work for about another two weeks, but then will try to get something together.


GravatarI'm driving down to the evil empire tomorrow.


GravatarThe States?


GravatarOTOH, whenever rightards bloviate about "having all the guns" I gets me an evil grin.


Expert marksman. Not a hard thing to be.


Gravatar
I'm still trying to blot the sound of Steve Inskeep's simpering from my memory.

watertiger | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 9:51 am | #


He really should have his picture in the dictionary next to "simpering".


GravatarYou see Dylan already?


Gravatarmy father is a diabetic and he uses splenda. never had a 'bad reaction' to it. he doesn't like any other nonsugar substitute either. myself, i think it tastes fine and i don't mind using it at all.
chicago dyke, sunny&happy
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Thanks Chi. I have just been wondering about it since it has such a profound effect on my father. You can hardly find anything sugar free anymore that doesn't contain splenda. He does alright with the aspertame, but splenda seems to be taking over the sugar free items.


Gravatarmoe, you and ms. moe have a standing invitation here, you know that.

CS is closet case meth using whoremaster country.
montag

fyt.


GravatarPeople could stay at my place in Saratoga, but it will be rented out in late July through August.


GravatarHeh. Somebody's got Philly's number.

The caption that accompanies this photo:

You call that an indigo?! A full rainbow rises over North Broad Street in Philadelphia and is immediately booed by the fans.


GravatarI saw Dylan last night. It was okay, not great. I was on the floor, towards the rear. You know that Chinese guy, the tallest guy in the world, eight feet ten or whatever? He was sitting in front of me.

Still, I like Dylan's new arrangements and such. Interesting.

And yea, I'm heading back home this afternoon, then driving down to the states in the morning.


Gravatarso, did anything happen overnight to make hillary the nominee?


GravatarCan someone explain to me what the hell is that Noquarterusa blog?

What is that about?

Even if briefly and you don't wish to explain too much.

I'm just... flabbergasted. It's batshit crazy. It's like a weird sub-sector of people who bought into what the media's smear-concept of "liberal" is and decided they'll be that (therefore Obama is in cahoots with Iran and U.S. leftist terrorists etc).


GravatarBut The Politico writes this morning that "many top GOP strategists believe (McCain) can defeat Barack Obama -- and by a margin exceeding President Bush's Electoral College victory in 2004."

Politico's David Paul Kuhn reports that:

Some Republican strategists can envision a scenario in which Obama wins the popular vote but loses in the Electoral College -- he might galvanize Southern black turnout, for example, but still fail to switch a state in the region.

Among the 10 strategists interviewed by Politico for this story, there was near-uniform belief that had any other Republican been nominated, the party’s prospects in November would be nil.

The case they make for a comfortable McCain win is not beyond reason. Begin with the 2004 electoral map. Add Iowa and Colorado to Obama’s side, since both are considered states Obama could pick off. Then count McCain victories in New Hampshire and Michigan, two states where McCain is competitive. In this scenario, McCain wins the Electoral College 291-246, a larger margin than Bush four years ago.


"dream on white boy..."


GravatarSo, regarding the Jewish community, this Obama fella had a few things to say about that on Thursday.


GravatarAspartame breaks down under heat, Splenda not so much. BTW -- Crystal Light "Iced Tea Flavor" blows chunks.


GravatarMorning, Moonbats! Gorgeous day here; I've been out planting seedlings!


GravatarCrystal Light "Iced Tea Flavor" blows chunks.

I'm getting addicted to their Raspberry Green Tea, though.


GravatarI always knew at the foot of the rainbow there was a foot long sandwich for $5.


Gravatarnoquerterusa is run by larry johnson who was run out of the us intelligence agencies by bush for not being stupid and crazy enough - which shows you what kind of stupid and crazy standards the bushites have.


GravatarDylan is playing in Newfoundland?


GravatarJust kidding, foolme1ns.

billyb-- that's what I was thinking. Ricky Nelson, grew up and was pissed. Good on him.

One of these days I need to hang out with CD. It should be a goal or something.
Moe Szyslak
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s'alright.


GravatarI always knew at the foot of the rainbow there was a foot long sandwich for $5.
Culture of TrÜth


Be careful. If that's at the Tastee Freez, it might not be what you expect.


GravatarAtrios, someone called you a "cannibal" ? You are a pretty mild-mannered cannibal.

As for taking responsibility for their messes, you can forget it. I am reading that Tim Weiner history of the c.i.a. and no one there ever took a responsibility for a goddamn thing, so you expect more from a bunch of pen-wielding fops at the NYT? Fuggeddaboutit!

Hi, peeps.


GravatarThat's a pretty neat rainbow.


GravatarDylan is playing in Newfoundland?
Gromit


Yep. TOnight too. And then Leanard Cohen, for the next three days.

I went out and watched the icebergs float by yesterday.


GravatarLarry Johnson was sane once upon a time.

Now, not so much.


Gravatarnoquerterusa is run by larry johnson who was run out of the us intelligence agencies by bush

rootless-e


But... fuck... it's insane. How can there be all those self-identified "left"-leaning people with those extreme right-wing stances?


GravatarAtrios, someone called you a "cannibal" ? You are a fine young cannibal.

Fixed, although I probably owe multiple cokes for it.


GravatarI went out and watched the icebergs float by yesterday.

Did you wave to the polar bears?


GravatarI maintain that Larry Johnson would recover his mental faculties if he would let me taking him to Bumble & Bumble for a decent haircut.


GravatarSinfonian, You drive me crazy (boop! boop!)


GravatarMoe, you're in St. John's? Have a drink at The Ship for me. I wish it wasn't so expensive to get there, I'd go all the time.


GravatarDid you wave to the polar bears?
Gromit


No polar bears here, but I had a moose burger the other night. It was pretty good.


GravatarAs a white child of Southron Heritage, iced tea was central to my existence until diabetes stopped by and stayed. Damn, sometimes the thought of a big glass and a slice of meaty, cheesy pizza just makes me shake.


Gravatarself-identified "left"-leaning people with those extreme right-wing stances?

liars? dumbfucks? assholes?

take your pick


Gravatarfor a Marine, i'm a pretty poor shot. which simply means when the Revolutions comes, Dog will admin the DSH, while i'll just clip you in the left nut.

it's funny. gardening has taught me all about Death. "death is just a part of life," or whatever that forrest gump quote is. seriously, Wild Things don't mourn the end of life, and while i don't "kill for pleasure," i understand the thrill of the hunt. the hunter and the prey are initmately connected, in a way that can only be approximated to great sex and suchlike.


GravatarFixed, although I probably owe multiple cokes for it.
Sinfonian


No cokes needed.

We have MUCH better taste in music than you and Atrios


GravatarOff to work

*poof*


GravatarGood morning, folkses!

In about 15 minutes, we're taking the little lady in the gravatar to the vet for her annual checkup. We got her a year ago this week.

We're just a couple'a ol' DFHs who love our cats.


Gravatarso, did anything happen overnight to make hillary the nominee?
jdw
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No one seems to be discussing the Hillary fiasco of yesterday. Although I was surprised to find out that she has been saying that same thing since March, so her apology of yesterday to the Kennedy's seems disingenous now. Nobody knew about Ted Kennedy's condition in March. Not even Ted.


GravatarFinny-- went to the Ship last night, after the show.

Now, Mrs. Moe is giving me that "get off the damn computer" look. Better go. Talk to you from the belly of the beast, in a couple of days.


GravatarI am reading that Tim Weiner history of the c.i.a. and no one there ever took a responsibility for a goddamn thing


Well, only very long after the fact, and mostly, only George F. Kennan.

But, yeah, I'm just now into the same book, and it's an object lesson--the people running this country for the last sixty years could never admit a mistake.


GravatarI went out and watched the icebergs float by yesterday.

Did you wave to the polar bears?
Gromit
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wave to them??? Throw them a life preserver. They are going to need them.


Gravatarfor a Marine, i'm a pretty poor shot.
chicago dyke


12-gauge.

Just sayin'.


GravatarI maintain that Larry Johnson would recover his mental faculties if he would let me taking him to Bumble & Bumble for a decent haircut.

You think it's the hair? Interesting.

I think it's HRC derangement syndrome.
It works 2 ways.
Either it makes you parse every fucking word she says to find evil or you defend even the most heinous thing she says at the risk of offending every sentient being on the planet.

YMMV, as always.


GravatarBut... fuck... it's insane. How can there be all those self-identified "left"-leaning people with those extreme right-wing stances?
Mick | 05.24.08 - 10:01 am | #


They are not left leaning. they are reagan republicans who discovered, much to their surprise, that Bush was destroying america and hoped that DLC Democrat would be an acceptable substitute for the late lamented union busting dimwit actor.


GravatarSinfonian, You drive me crazy (boop! boop!)
Gromit


I don't think it is humanly possible for me to hate that song more than I do.


GravatarNow, Mrs. Moe is giving me that "get off the damn computer" look.

We all need a little Mrs. Moe in our lives sometimes it seems


Gravatarmontag,

And a couple of them were genuinely crazy, as in mentally ill crazy, not just standard-issue crazy. And they were all lying to each other -- and the president -- from the start.

I'm just through the part where they instal Motubu in Congo.


Gravatarliars? dumbfucks? assholes?

mogwai

But... but... it's crazy! Not the usual "wow, those people live in another dimension but it's understandable because it's fueled by fear, hate and bigotry" type of right-wing fringe.

But some weird incoherent "left=bomb Iran".

I can't really explain how I'm a bit baffled by it.


GravatarPeople have been saying she's been hoping "Lightning would Strike" or other sundry fatal things about Obama for quite some time. Rather a ghoulish and slender reed to which to attach one's hopes.


GravatarI maintain that Larry Johnson would recover his mental faculties if he would let me taking him to Bumble & Bumble for a decent haircut.
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[ makes note to delay self-commitment until after haircut]


GravatarI maintain that Larry Johnson would recover his mental faculties if he would let me taking him to Bumble & Bumble for a decent haircut.
res ipsa loquitur




Gravatarmorning folks.

which should I watch first:

Shirley Chisholm: Unbought and Unbound

or

Sweeney Todd


GravatarSo, about the puppy ... I've decided to take the plunge.

Yikes.


GravatarAs a white child of Southron Heritage, iced tea was central to my existence until diabetes stopped by and stayed. Damn, sometimes the thought of a big glass and a slice of meaty, cheesy pizza just makes me shake.
plantsman, less blue
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Oh I am soooo sorry. (literally) Being southern, I understand what you mean. Sweet iced tea is to southerners, what potatoes were to the Irish (maybe still are, but I don't know). It's just part of our existence. You poor thing.


GravatarSweeny Todd!


GravatarJews = one of the most loyal Democratic constituencies.

AIPAC = not representative of American Jews, although it likes to represent itself as such.

Joe Lieberman = has nothing to do with most American Jews.

Bernie Sanders & Barbara Boxer & Russ Feingold = much more representative of our political views.


Gravatarwatertigre, i swear, you are just the harshest of crowds. rainbow pretty to me!

hec, you're motivating me. so many seeds came up this week, i'm going to do a whole new veggie bed,, just so i can have a late harvest as well as an early one. the goddess seems kind this year.


....taps foot impatiently. vicki, get the fuck out of bed already. i'm waiting.


GravatarIf a flowerpot was perched on a windowsill seven feet from the ground, and was about to fall off and hit Hillary on the noggin, Obama could reach up and steady it.

McStain couldn't do that in a million years.


Gravatarthe only jew I know talking up the fear factor with Ob is my cousin who works for Altria.
the rest of us get her emails and send back the truth. hard to tell if we are changing her mind.
it is possible as she is a sweet woman.


GravatarShirley Chisholm: Unbought and Unbound of course.

An amazing woman.


Gravatar
it's funny. gardening has taught me all about Death. "death is just a part of life,"


cd, there is a great Vic Chesnutt song, "Degenerate" which is all about that.


GravatarHaloScan is still dangerously glitchy today. Fresh Copy anywhere?


GravatarBut, yeah, I'm just now into the same book, and it's an object lesson--the people running this country for the last sixty years could never admit a mistake.
montag | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 10:04 am | #


Or resist one.


Gravatarthey are reagan republicans who discovered, much to their surprise, that Bush was destroying america

rootless-e


Aww ok, that makes more sense (even if "Reagan democrats" never made a bit of sense to me -- people are becoming buddahs, all wiping the frontiers of opposing concepts. Jonah Goldberg's world).


GravatarYeah, sweet tea is pretty much an inextricable part of my blood stream. I'm sorry for your loss, plantsman.

[half-hearted smiley icon]


GravatarAnd a couple of them were genuinely crazy, as in mentally ill crazy, not just standard-issue crazy.


Oh, yeah. Frank Wisner for one--probably alcoholic dementia, Forrestal for another, probably stone-cold bonkers.

I can't decide, though, about Allen Dulles and his brother. His brother was a religious fanatic, but, Allen, he was seems to be standard-issue devious SOB.


Gravatar"so her apology of yesterday to the Kennedy's seems disingenous now."

seems? SEEMS?

even giving her the benefit of the doubt on the comment, the comment itself obscures the fact that as usual, she's lying.

in '92 bill had it wrapped up very early.

this is what the party gets for allowing an increasingly deranged, bitter and desperate individual to run all over the country making more and more absurd statements that she never gets called on. she's been coddled for months, there's always an excuse. too tired, inartful, it's almost over, let her finish, what's the harm?

just.go.away.


GravatarThere are few places more fun than St.John's Nfld, if you like music and drinking.


GravatarJust back from several news-starved days out of the country to see that Obama is a Muslim Apostate, Teddy has brain cancer, and Clinton still expects to win.

Someday the world will make sense, but today ain't that day....


Gravatar....taps foot impatiently. vicki, get the fuck out of bed already. i'm waiting.
chicago dyke


Vicki's sleeping in ChiDy's bed?


Gravatarit's funny. gardening has taught me all about Death. "death is just a part of life,"
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you must be the same kind of gardener I am. Sorry about that. However, I do have a fine crop of dandelions in my backyard as I speak.


GravatarVicki's sleeping in ChiDy's bed?
jac


Yeah, I was kinda confused myself ...


Gravataryou know, it seems to me that HRC can't say anything, but people will jump all over her for it. i wonder if that's sexism, or something. it's not like she's the only pol who says stupid, bullheaded things, but for some reason, i only read about her mistake, and no other librul politician's. i say this as a Breck Girl supporter of Olde, who will never forgive her for merely her vote to kill iraqi children, and not some stupid (or not) words.


Gravatarmontag,

So far I agree re Dulles.

The other thing is that the various branches and departments were withholding info from one and other from the start (so the 9/11 issues are no surprise) and various people were running operations without authority from anyone but themselves.

Oh, and they fucked up ... a lot.


Gravatarwt==thanks for the rock experience.

FYI--raining in socal. very odd for end of May.
there were tornadoes and waterspouts yesterday.
partner sleeping in the tower. insomnia got her.
lying in bed with MAC and thinking about a scramble.
garden in last week.
daughter graduated and driving down today from SF.
things are sweet. maybe one of those job apps will come through...not to soon though as not working is very sweet.

nice to visit with all of you. good luck with the pup, sinfonian.


GravatarArtificial sweeteners are more selective in what they amplify than sugar. A truckload of Splenda would not make cinnamon sparkle on toast, but it works with chocolate.


GravatarAIPAC = not representative of American Jews, although it likes to represent itself as such.


My sense is that groups like AIPAC, JINSA, AJC, and the like are the interfaces between the right-wing in Israel and the right-wing in this country.


GravatarOf course if the NYT says we Joos are sacred of The Secret Muslim, then that makes it Truthy!

I'll let you know if and when my politically not-very-astute-but-very-concerned-about-Israel cousin's wife sends out a "He Loves I'm A Dinner Jacket!" scary email.


GravatarI grew up on bitter, dark unsweet tea- I think my parents just kept the same pot brewing round the clock.

still love it. Still the best thing to slake a thirst.


When I moved to NYC, it was such a sacrilege that they CHARGED for tea refills. I mean, it's a sacrament fer chrissakes


GravatarAs a white child of Southron Heritage, iced tea was central to my existence until diabetes stopped by and stayed.

As a white child of Southern Heritage, I stopped using sugar in my iced tea years ago. Just lemon. It's quite good and very refreshing -- and I don't miss the sugar jolt at all.


GravatarDon't know from Sweeney Todd, but that Chisholm documentary is VERY good...


GravatarOh, I put up a second, shorter Obama video I took on Thursday, for anyone interested.

In it, he discusses his affinity for the Jewish people ... well said indeed.


GravatarVicki's sleeping in ChiDy's bed?
jac

Yeah, I was kinda aroused myself ...
Sinfonian


Fixed your typo.


Gravatarjust.go.away.
jdw
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gee, I seem to be getting on everyones nerves this morning. Oh well, I'm off to the exotic wilds of the Food Lion ailes to pick up what the mister said are essentials for today. liquid soap and garbage bags.

bye


Gravatar{{{{{good vibes for peterboy}}}}}

(but not too soon)


GravatarMy sense is that groups like AIPAC, JINSA, AJC, and the like are the interfaces between the right-wing in Israel and the right-wing in this country.
montag


Bingo!

And it's to their advantage to present themselves as representing many more people than they really do, especially when a compliant media cheerfully spreads their message for them.


GravatarYeah, I was kinda aroused myself ...
Sinfonian

Fixed your typo.
jac


Ah, yes, that's what I meant. Couldn't quite come up with the word. Thanks.


GravatarAnd it's to their advantage to present themselves as representing many more people than they really do, especially when a compliant media cheerfully spreads their message for them.
Gummo |


Exactly.


GravatarOff to the vet -- see yous guise laterz.


Gravatarwatertigre, i swear, you are just the harshest of crowds. rainbow pretty to me!

Wasn't me!!! It was the caption editor at the SF Chronicle!

I lurve rainbows.  And unicorns, and pixie dust, and good music, and honest people, and Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia frozen yogurt, and yoga, and kickboxing...

which I must now go do. 


Gravatarit seems to me that HRC can't say anything, but people will jump all over her for it. i wonder if that's sexism

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I think too much of it is sexism.

But I also think way too much is also her own really nasty gaffes and overall jaw-dropping talking points.


Gravatardaughter graduated and driving down today from SF.

Congratulations!


GravatarSinfo, have you ever had a dog before?


GravatarI loved Constant Comment with a little sugar, iced.
Splenda doesn't pick up the orange or clove notes at all. It's not a life crisis, however.


Gravatareven giving her the benefit of the doubt on the comment, the comment itself obscures the fact that as usual, she's lying.

in '92 bill had it wrapped up very early.


She's a weasel.


GravatarOff to the vet -- see yous guise laterz.

Spit on him once for Simels.

Oh, wait, you meant....


GravatarRode the LRT down Taft to EDSA and the MRT along EDSA out to SM Megamall today, first time in quite awhile. Still haven't ridden the NPR which connects the LRT to the MRT and completes the loop north of downtown Manila, but will, someday, just to say I did. Megamall used to be the showcase mall for all of Asia until the Mall of Asia, fourth largest mall in the world, opened two years ago and totally upstaged it. All the good restaurants left and now the utilitarian design of Megamall seems like a medium security prison compared to Mall of Asia's architecture. Still has an ice skating rink, but it's rinky dink compared to Mall of Asia's which is at the center of the mall and serves a dual function as the mall's primary air conditioner. Megamall's is tucked in a corner at one end next to the parking garage. LRT wasn't crowded like it used to be, but the MRT was packed so tight there was no air to breathe. Got a text message from the other half in China while riding the train. Said she was interviewed live on national television. Has no idea what the translators say she said. But it must have been important or they wouldn't have run it.


GravatarJews: Mostly Dems

Can you see Dems?

Make me fries.


GravatarI lurve rainbows. And unicorns, and pixie dust, and good music, and honest people, and Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia frozen yogurt, and yoga, and kickboxing...
watertiger


[Moe]

What is this place, a fucking singles site?

[/Moe]


Gravatarit's fiction, and prolly gets some stuff wrong, historically speaking, but to my mind and i've read a few, there is no better book about The Game and The Company than mailer's "harlot's ghost." fucking two-er dee force, indeed.


Gravataryou know, it seems to me that HRC can't say anything, but people will jump all over her for it.

C'mon now. I guess I get the larger point, but invoking the assassination of RFK -- that icy fear that haunts so many of us who yearn for another charismatic Democratic leader -- as a reason for staying in is pretty effin' egregious. She seems determined to re-enact that "the agony of defeat" clip with her loss.


GravatarSinfo, have you ever had a dog before?
virgotex


We always had dogs when I was growing up but, other than a brief, ill-fated experience with a pound puppy in '97 (she had distemper), not as an adult, no.

Yes, I know how to care for a dog, yes, I know the expense involved, yes, I understand the responsibility, yes, I've already made arrangements for when I'm traveling ...


GravatarEdwards was drummed out of the race and he just got a haircut. Biden and Dodd got no traction at all with far more experience than Clinton. Richardson has a tremendous resume. The media spent months attacking Obama for not wearing a flag pin or the "cling" statement. So it's not just Hillary Clinton.


Gravatarmontag and Gummo: absolutely. Not all Jews are Likudniks. Not all American Jews support AIPAC. Not all Zionists are murderers of Palestinians. 65% of Israelis think they should talk to Hamas. I repeat myself, but find I have to.

Just as Bill Donohue doesn't represent American Catholics, and Louis Farrakhan doesn't represent all black folk.


Gravatarthanks from the heart, Hecate and HBK.

nicest part of daughter coming home is that she is so smart and good, and I really enjoy here as an intelligent adult.
she is taking a "birthright" free trip to Israel in a week--for young adult jews. I will be very interested to hear what she hears from there about the USA.


Gravataryou know, it seems to me that HRC can't say anything, but people will jump all over her for it. i wonder if that's sexism, or something. it's not like she's the only pol who says stupid, bullheaded things, but for some reason, i only read about her mistake, and no other librul politician's. i say this as a Breck Girl supporter of Olde, who will never forgive her for merely her vote to kill iraqi children, and not some stupid (or not) words.
chicago dyke, sunny&happy


I think the MSM squawked about Obama's "bitter" comment for weeks and weeks, and that did have an impact on the Penn. primary, IIRC.

The MSM latches on, ISTM, to any gaffe by a Democrat.

Rethugs? Not so much.

Just this week, McSame indulged in ageism by referring to Obama as "young man." And I heard *crickets* about it in the MSM.

Imagine what would have happened in the MSM had Obama used "old man" while referring to McSame...


Gravatarchidyke,

Loved your garden pics from yesterday! You've got quite a garden going.


Gravatar
Make me fries.


makes. me. laff. every. time.





What is this place, a fucking singles site?

Did I mention long walks on the beach, motherfucker?  No, I DID NOT!


GravatarIts reverse sexism. A guy acts that, saying the shit she does, and we all would be all over him, no excuses.


Gravatar
Yes, I know how to care for a dog, yes, I know the expense involved, yes, I understand the responsibility, yes, I've already made arrangements for when I'm traveling ..


carry on, then


GravatarJust this week, McSame indulged in ageism by referring to Obama as "young man." A

You know he wanted to say "boy." McCain needs to shut up about age; that's not a discussion he wants to have.


Gravatarit's not like she's the only pol who says stupid, bullheaded things, but for some reason, i only read about her mistake, and no other librul politician's.

Wait till John Kerry tries humor again. I'll grant you it's entirely arbitrary, who the villain of the moment is, but there have been others.

A.


Gravatarmontag and Gummo: absolutely. Not all Jews are Likudniks. Not all American Jews support AIPAC. Not all Zionists are murderers of Palestinians. 65% of Israelis think they should talk to Hamas. I repeat myself, but find I have to.

Just as Bill Donohue doesn't represent American Catholics, and Louis Farrakhan doesn't represent all black folk.
ProfWombat


Of course, it goes without saying that you know all that, and we know all that, but the media are happy to trumpet those minority viewpoints to the extent that Joe Podunk thinks they're fact.


GravatarGet the pup ALL the Shots, Sinf; and distemper will not happen. Find a great vet, you'll be glad you did.


GravatarImagine what would have happened in the MSM had Obama used "old man" while referring to McSame...
Shaw Kenawe


He should use "elderly gent" instead.


GravatarThe msm jumps on any "gaffe". Think "macaca".


Gravatarshe is taking a "birthright" free trip to Israel in a week-

I have a friend whose son did that. Travel is good.


Gravatar.She's a weasel.


I must say that for me this particular comment falls more in the "unhinged" category than the "weasel" one. She's utterly lost her way in her frustrated determination to win -- a sign of moral weakness that makes me glad she won't get the nomination.


GravatarMake me fries.

makes. me. laff. every. time.


Me too. I can't hear that song without thinking of it now.


Gravatarshe is taking a "birthright" free trip to Israel in a week--for young adult jews. I will be very interested to hear what she hears from there about the USA.
peterboy


"Researchers here in Israel are working on a medical procedure to reverse circumcision.

Then we're gonna perform it on William Kristol and tell him to shut his fucking piechole."


GravatarMcCain hates Barack and it shows when he talks about him. I'm sensing a real fuck-up in the debates by Huggy.


Gravatar"you know, it seems to me that HRC can't say anything, but people will jump all over her for it."

that's ok, because it helps her play victim. her and bill are wallowing in it.

whatever.


GravatarMac productivity guru and bon vivant Merlin Mann via Twitter a few minutes ago:

It'll be tricky for McCain to replace the access to large-scale batshit insanity that a guy like John Hagee offers.


Gravatarwt: I like long walks on the beach. Alone, or with a loved one, or a dog, or just about anytime it isn't thirty below zero.

Cliches are cliches because they're often true.


GravatarHe should use "elderly gent" instead.

Older gentleman would sound polite enough to get a pass, I think.

He should show up for the debates early and put a walker next to McCain's podium.

A.


GravatarHer "apology" was pure "weasel".


Gravatarcarry on, then
virgotex


Didn't mean to pile on, of course. But I'm getting LOTS of advice from every quarter. My mother has a Shih-Tzu, so I think I'll just work with her on it ...


GravatarChicDyke,

There has to be a name for this phenomenon (you or Wombat will know it), where each HRC misstatement/dumbass statement/jerky statement is magnified ten times more than the last, whether or not it is ten times worse than the last. The cumulative effect is greater than the individual effect, or something. That seems to be what's going on. I heard about the RFK thing and it sounded bad, but when I read it this AM I just shrugged my shoulders. It's a touchy subject, but I was far more pissed about the McCain-and-I-are-qualified-to-be-CIC thing.

BTW, I think the above phenomenon happened to Gore, too.


GravatarIt's also important to point out that only a very small percentage of American Jews spit on veterans, and that those who do tend to be quite old.


GravatarDid I mention long walks on the beach, motherfucker? No, I DID NOT!
watertiger




So what's your policy on Pina Coladas?


GravatarI think sinfonian should get a miniature dog like the one in "Legally Blond". He could carry it around in a coat pocket to meetings and dates. That would make one hell of an impression on people.


GravatarI think "Doddering Old Fuck" captures him perfectly.


GravatarOK, you lovely Moonbats. Off to put more plants in the ground. Let's remember who the enemy is. Eyes on the prize.


Gravatarwt: I like long walks on the beach. Alone, or with a loved one, or a dog, or just about anytime it isn't thirty below zero.

Me, too -- and I think I'm gonna take the train out to Brighton Beach late in the afternoon/early evening on Monday.

Brighton Beach is better than no beach.


GravatarMac productivity guru and bon vivant Merlin Mann via Twitter a few minutes ago:

It'll be tricky for McCain to replace the access to large-scale batshit insanity that a guy like John Hagee offers.
virgotex


FOLLOW MERLINMANN


Gravatar Athenae !!


GravatarGet the pup ALL the Shots, Sinf; and distemper will not happen. Find a great vet, you'll be glad you did.
plantsman, less blue


Got it, thanks.

Puppy's mommy lives 10 minutes away, so I'll be using the same vet. Shouldn't be a problem. (My friend, who owns the mommy, will be keeping the puppy when I'm traveling, too.)


GravatarEnough with hrc.

So the McFlintstones gave a whole 0.0001% to charity. And that was to their kids private school.

Btw, how do these rich private schools get away with being "non-profit"?


GravatarHe should show up for the debates early and put a walker next to McCain's podium.

If McStain uses stilts in the debate, they should declare a misstep.


Gravatar, i only read about her mistake, and no other librul politician's.
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chicago dyke, sunny&happy | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 10:13 am | #


selective reading. But it is true that Obama does not fuck up as regularly as Clinton does. What can you expect of someone who thought that putting Mark Penn on TV would help her cause.

Bad Judgment. The Hillary Clinton Story.


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wt: I like long walks on the beach. Alone, or with a loved one, or a dog, or just about anytime it isn't thirty below zero.
Well, i do, too, but i grew up at the beach, so it's kind of therapeutic for me.

but i draw the line at pina coladas.

and now i must really be going.


Gravatarmore atrios mass transit wonkish stuff owls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarTKK! *waves*


So the McFlintstones gave a whole 0.0001% to charity.


Wow, they're just like the Rockefellers!

Blech.

A.


GravatarIt's also important to point out that only a very small percentage of American Jews spit on veterans, and that those who do tend to be quite old.
sdf (Stu) | 05.24.08 - 10:23 am | #

To be fair, its hard to generate any spit with a mouthful of matzah brie.


GravatarCindy McCain has fought her way back from a stroke. This is the first time I have felt empathy and admiration for her.


Gravatari sincerely have 0% interest in the hilbama wars, and i'm nto trying to start one here. it's just...odd. i feel as if i have a sort of distance that many of my friends here lack, as they grow in enthusiasm for BHO and the likelyhood of the exciting prospect of our first "black" preznit. which will be great! and i'll vote and work for him, really, a lot!

but i listened to npr in the car for a little while yesterday, and i have been here a lot of late, and please understand i'm saying this with my self-important academic superior critical analysis voice: it's really, really skewed against her. and i'm bothered, for all our sakes, at how easily many libruls and progressives are reacting, almost "sheeple"-like, to the Hate of the Day on the Bitch Who Won't Quit. again, let me stress: i'm not her fan, and i don't forgive her and never will for her iraq vote, and i think she blew it, stupidly, in many ways, this cycle. all i'm asking is for people to check the vicious emotional stuff, and to try to bitch about her for policy, and not stupid media circus 'controversy" of the moment.

i'm done with this now. sorry.


Gravatar"Researchers here in Israel are working on a medical procedure to reverse circumcision.

Then we're gonna perform it on William Kristol and tell him to shut his fucking piechole."



In Kristol's case, won't that mean yanking his jowls up over his ears?


GravatarS H E E T S


Gravatarnot sure why the MSM didnt bitch more about the ridiculous terms for release by mcsame of his medical records.
as some pointed out....three hours to read 1200+ pages of records in medical format with no copying allowed and then they are back in the file cabinet is not really
"releasing records."


Gravatar"chicago dyke, sunny&happy" is officially the coolest person I'll hear from today.

Wear your sunglasses with style. You deserve it.


Gravatar"Btw, how do these rich private schools get away with being "non-profit"?"

easy. at the end of the year their financial show no profit.

rich families do it all the time to avoid taxes on their estates. establish a fake charitable foundation, make their kids directors and give them outrageous salaries.


GravatarNon-Likudnik, non RW, non Zionist Jews are more than tired of having Jews portrayed as such by the NYT and most other media outlets, and having the RW assumptions seconded via AIPAC and parroted via their ilk and through politicians.

Not to be too dramatic about it, but the blood of my many dead relatives is not for sale to these RW facist leaners. That message should be clear enough, but somehow its drowned out.


GravatarKILL MORE IRAQIS. That's something we can all get behind, Jew or Christian. Yee Haw! Bush-Cheney '08 motherfuckers!


GravatarA jewish friend of mine tells me his brother in law votes conservative. Otherwise every Jew I know is liberal. Just got off the phone with my 88 year old dad and had to listen to his usual "you know who the biggest terrorist in the world is? Its george bush" rant. And Dad is a big ole jewy jew.


GravatarBrighton Beach is better than no beach.

значит так, увидемся да?


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