Thread of a freshness! Ah, simple pleasures....... thanks.
and salvaged from below:
Octavian, Caligula - the decline is so much faster these days the current Emperor has to be all the Julio-Claudians at once.
at least our current Emperors have improved on 'bread and circuses'. The teebee circuses are so much better than the old kind that they have used them to convince the masses they shouldn't get the bread. Great savings.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:04 pm | #
What happened to the commenter named PG? Named lk?
wash |
12.15.07 - 5:04 pm | #
Did your dog get back safely through the cows?
Echidne |
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12.15.07 - 5:04 pm | #
"Screw you."
Kiss me first
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
12.15.07 - 5:04 pm | #
Marcellina, I think it just throws shit out hoping someone will react. If no one does, he just throws out another inane comment.
qlª |
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12.15.07 - 5:05 pm | #
Augustus was what the Roman Emperors who followed him aspired to be.
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 5:05 pm | #
miss october is getting into the fellini/lynch thingy. weird.
mestizO |
Wow--Fellini and Lynch are brothers for you?
I guess they could be opposite sides of the same coin...
whiskey girl |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:06 pm | #
From below:
Watching the DVD of "Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol."
I love that one. Never gets old.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch |
12.15.07 - 5:06 pm | #
That was overdue.
Econ 102 |
12.15.07 - 5:07 pm | #
historians refer to Octavian when they are discussing his time as a warlord, when they talk about August they are focusing on when he became emperor
he spent a lot of time burying his warlord past and did his very best to i suppose in modern terms would be a make over
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 5:07 pm | #
That's probably right, ql. The disconnect is weird, though. And, although I know you don't agree, Incog was much the same way at times in this regard.
Marcellina |
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12.15.07 - 5:07 pm | #
It looks like that poor girl has fallen and she can't get up
bill |
12.15.07 - 5:07 pm | #
We ain't been properly introduced!
Terry C - Democratic Bitch |
12.15.07 - 5:07 pm | #
Rock me like a hurricane.
Richard |
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12.15.07 - 5:07 pm | #
Heehee, just got off the phone with the CodePink house. They said it's "cold" down there. 38F. Here? 4F.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 5:06 pm | #
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:08 pm | #
Discovery Channel will have a 3 hour special report on The Secret History of the Freemasons.
corn |
12.15.07 - 5:08 pm | #
Sinfonian loves him some fellini.
trifecta
Heh.
Hey, I wasted a whole shitload of time putting together this garage sale thingy! What an idiot!
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:08 pm | #
Augustus was what the Roman Emperors who followed him aspired to be.
Augustus, the Five Good Emperors - there were good ones, to be sure.
But i think the US decline will be driven by faster transportation and communication, and we will go from Julio-claudian excesses, to the 200 ADs succession of barracks emperors, to the dismemberment of empire, without time for a good emperor.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:08 pm | #
Screw you.
Buy me dinner first.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:08 pm | #
"We are Siamese if you please...."
Terry C - Democratic Bitch |
12.15.07 - 5:08 pm | #
because the Republic had been for many years riven by warfare, anarchy and riots
Augustus liked to portray himself as the bringer of the end of this
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 5:08 pm | #
Wow--Fellini and Lynch are brothers for you?
not my brothers.
mestizO |
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12.15.07 - 5:09 pm | #
From below:
at least our current Emperors have improved on 'bread and circuses'. The teebee circuses are so much better than the old kind that they have used them to convince the masses they shouldn't get the bread. Great savings.
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Cynicus
Yes, but some of the Emporers had the goddamned common courtesy to do themselves in.
MP |
12.15.07 - 5:09 pm | #
It looks like that poor girl has fallen and she can't get up
bill |
She's in the Jeri Thompson category.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch |
12.15.07 - 5:09 pm | #
I like linguini.
Richard |
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12.15.07 - 5:09 pm | #
Now, as I was saying: Fukuyama was wrong.
He was describing not the end of history but the end of democracy.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
12.15.07 - 5:10 pm | #
I just heard Pat Buchanan say, in referring to 1968, that "I cannot think of a year in American history that was more divisive." Hmm. Civil fucking War?
PutzFinder |
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12.15.07 - 5:10 pm | #
It looks like that poor girl has fallen and she can't get up
bill
Earlier today the girls said, "Mama, how come there's a police car and ambulance in front of [the 90-something neighbor's] house?"
Oh shit, I thought. How do I get them away from the window so they don't see a corpse being rolled out? I looked out and watched as they tilted the stretcher up to a seated position. Whew, she's still alive...
whiskey girl |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:10 pm | #
I like linguini.
Mmm...little tongues...
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:10 pm | #
TCM has an Elvis marathon.
corn |
12.15.07 - 5:10 pm | #
Screw you.
You wouldn't like it I'd just lay there.
bill |
12.15.07 - 5:10 pm | #
Just started The Shock Doctrine.
I think I'm gonna have to skip a bunch of stuff about the CIA's torture programs in the 50s.
And she's already freaked me out, in the introduction.
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:11 pm | #
Oh shit, I thought. How do I get them away from the window so they don't see a corpse being rolled out?
Just tell them the lady was sleeping.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:11 pm | #
I just heard Pat Buchanan say, in referring to 1968, that "I cannot think of a year in American history that was more divisive." Hmm. Civil fucking War?
PutzFinder
I can't believe Buchanan is permitted out without a keeper.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch |
12.15.07 - 5:11 pm | #
"We are Siamese if you please...."
A favorite childhood movie.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger |
12.15.07 - 5:11 pm | #
A bill in Congress seeks to eliminate military slot machines overseas that take in $130 million a year, mostly from soldiers. Part of what has prompted the bill is one soldier's gambling addiction, which ruined his Army career and led to his suicide.
Awwww, the sick fucking psychos who run the country feel the need to pwotect America's finest when one of them kills himself.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch |
12.15.07 - 5:12 pm | #
Whew, she's still alive...
whiskey girl
I don't imagine that talk would be very pleasant.
bill |
12.15.07 - 5:12 pm | #
MSNBC converted a janitor's closet into Buchanan's crypt. He feeds on leftovers in the green room.
trifecta |
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12.15.07 - 5:12 pm | #
Fukuyama posited the end of history with the end of tyranny, the end of conflict and the beginning of consensus about the democratic form of government.
corn |
12.15.07 - 5:12 pm | #
Buy me dinner first.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana
I wish you'd told me that before I made the salami sandwich and scones
whiskey girl |
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12.15.07 - 5:12 pm | #
Thousands of trade union members have protested in Brussels against rising prices and the failure of Belgium's politicians to form a new government.
Belgium has been without a government since elections in June, as Dutch- and French-speaking political parties remain split over autonomy plans.
The trade unions say economic and social policy had been neglected because of the political paralysis.
They were also protesting against high food and fuel prices.
I just heard Pat Buchanan say, in referring to 1968, that "I cannot think of a year in American history that was more divisive." Hmm. Civil fucking War?
Yeah, that always has bugged me ever since I saw a commercial when I was in HS for something (can't remember if it was a TV series or one of those Time-Life thingies) about the 60s, "the most divisive period in American history."
Really, WTF? The hippies were more dangerous than the Secesh?
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:13 pm | #
I think I'm gonna have to skip a bunch of stuff about the CIA's torture programs in the 50s.
You know, the biggest thing to come out of Project MKULTRA probe, was a final gummental confirmation that, yeah, the CIA does whatever it wants to.
MP |
12.15.07 - 5:13 pm | #
Yes, but some of the Emporers had the goddamned common courtesy to do themselves in.
Moon, how many Roman Emperors died of natural causes? 5 or 6?
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:13 pm | #
Did your dog get back safely through the cows?
yep, it started to mist, she was smart enough to follow the ridge line to get on the other side of the fence, then come down the hill. She's a cattle dog, but with only three feet, can't out run the yearlings.
Just tell them the lady was sleeping.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
Well, you know me. The first thing outta my mouth when they asked was: "I don't know. Maybe she's dead!"
whiskey girl |
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12.15.07 - 5:14 pm | #
I wish you'd told me that before I made the salami sandwich and scones
Those can work, too, if I don't gotta be somewhere...
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:14 pm | #
A woman in Oklahoma said she'll never forget the sound of tree branches snapping like rubber bands and sounding like bullets.
corn |
12.15.07 - 5:15 pm | #
Ever struggled in vain to find your cat in the dark? Now you need worry no longer -- Korean scientists have developed a cat that glows in the dark. These two Turkish Angola cats were photographed under ultraviolet light. The cat on the left, which is a clone of the right-hand feline, had its genes modified with a florescent protein that gives off a red glow under the special light. Researchers at Gyeongsang National University in Jinju, South Korea, created the glowing kitty by altering a gene that controls skin color.
Marcellina |
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12.15.07 - 5:16 pm | #
I just heard Pat Buchanan say, in referring to 1968, that "I cannot
think of a year in American history that was more divisive." Hmm. Civil
fucking War?
Hell, remember the igit in chief praising Japan for 200 yrs of peace?
just heard Pat Buchanan say, in referring to 1968, that "I cannot think of a year in American history that was more divisive." Hmm. Civil fucking War?
Are you watching the History Channel's depiction of 1968? Hell, fucking Lester Maddox may as well have produced that bullshit one-sided offering of that tumultuous year.
MP |
12.15.07 - 5:16 pm | #
Marcellina -- i think that's a classic solution in search of a problem, right there
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:17 pm | #
Ever struggled in vain to find your cat in the dark?
Nope.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:17 pm | #
here's another horse'y song, this one a little slower.
I'm not impressed by the History Channel
bill |
12.15.07 - 5:17 pm | #
Moon, how many Roman Emperors died of natural causes? 5 or 6?
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Cynicus | 12.15.07 - 5:13 pm | #
hmmm well just looking at the wiki list and so far I've roughly s I've counted 20 (thats including the later dynasties)
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 5:17 pm | #
Pat Buchanan was there.
corn |
12.15.07 - 5:17 pm | #
I do believe it's time for one of my Saturday naps (I'm behind schedule).
Have a pleasant afternoon, what's left of it, bats.
I'll see you later, I hope.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:18 pm | #
Which Roman Emperor was rumored to have a really big dick?
corn |
12.15.07 - 5:18 pm | #
certainly there was a period when Roman Emperors were being deposed and murdered regularly
during the Crisis of the Third Century AD
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 5:19 pm | #
Hell, remember the igit in chief praising Japan for 200 yrs of peace?
1Watt, Hermit |
He learned his history from listening to Tom Lehrer while snorting coke off a hooker's ass:
Once all the Germans were warlike and mean
But that couldn't happen again
We taught them a lesson in 1918
They've hardly bothered us since then . . .
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:19 pm | #
How about the Military Channel? They evidently felt that THC wasn't getting it done.
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:21 pm | #
Crisis of the Third Century (also known as the "Military Anarchy" or the "Imperial Crisis") is a commonly applied name for the crumbling and near collapse of the Roman Empire between 235 and 284 caused by three simultaneous crises: external invasion, internal civil war, and economic collapse. The changes in the institutions, society, economic life and eventually religion were so profound and fundamental, that the "Crisis of the Third Century" is increasingly seen as the watershed marking the difference between the classical world and the early medieval world, or world of late antiquity.
During this period, the empire was ruled by roughly 20 to 25 individuals, the exact number being a matter of debate as so many claimed the title at the same time. Most of them were prominent generals who assumed imperial power over all or part of the empire, only to lose it by defeat in battle, murder, or death, ruling on average only 2 to 3 years.
The Military Channel blows ass.
Barndog, dirty fucking hippie |
12.15.07 - 5:23 pm | #
I didn't know there was a Military Channel. I can only imagine Ike spinning in his grave.
bill
When I was staying with my SIL & BIL during an internship he used to watch it at night. Every night. He doesn't hear so well, so I went to sleep to the relaxing sounds of shit blowing up a lot of the time.
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:23 pm | #
well, THAT was a nice nap.
watertiger |
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12.15.07 - 5:24 pm | #
You know, Miss October sure has great posture.
How strange. Are those real?
pie |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:24 pm | #
well, THAT was a nice nap.
I hope I didn't snore too loudly.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:25 pm | #
Although, I do like to see an entire pod of Zuni rockets go off at the same time.
Ever notice how it pitches helicopters to the side they fired from?
Barndog, dirty fucking hippie |
12.15.07 - 5:25 pm | #
You know, Miss October sure has great posture.
bill
It should share air-time with the Mortuary Channel ...
focus |
12.15.07 - 5:25 pm | #
I wonder how the History Channel will be remembered 100 years from now.
Econ 102 |
12.15.07 - 5:25 pm | #
Fucking Tom "shelluyar tellyaphone" Brokaw was pleased as punch to be part of that "1968" fiasco.
MP |
12.15.07 - 5:26 pm | #
The troubles began in 235, when the emperor Alexander Severus was murdered by soldiers at the age of 27 after Roman legions were defeated in a campaign against Sassanid Persia. As general after general squabbled over control of the empire, the frontiers were neglected and subjected to frequent raids by Carpians, Goths, Vandals, and Alamanni, as well as attacks from Sassanids in the east.
Emperor Maximinus Thrax, ruled 235–8, was the first of the emperors during the Crisis of the Third Century.
Emperor Maximinus Thrax, ruled 235–8, was the first of the emperors during the Crisis of the Third Century.
Finally, by 258, the attacks came from within, when the Empire broke up into three separate competing states. The Roman provinces of Gaul, Britain and Hispania broke off to form the Gallic Empire, and two years later in 260, the eastern provinces of Syria, Palestine and Aegyptus became independent as the Palmyrene Empire (with Sassanid backing), leaving the remaining Italian-centered Roman empire proper in the middle.
Must-see teevee for Lieberman.
pie |
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12.15.07 - 5:26 pm | #
but strange looking boob
No two are alike - just like fingerprints.
Barndog, dirty fucking hippie |
12.15.07 - 5:26 pm | #
You know, Miss October sure has great posture.
How strange. Are those real?
pie
I'm concerned that something may have happened to her garment. Things seem to be escaping.
(I doubt that they're real. They seem pretty, uh, firm.)
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:26 pm | #
I'm getting sick and tired of Japan cutting in on American auto markets.
al |
12.15.07 - 5:27 pm | #
Real but not natural
nick carraway |
12.15.07 - 5:27 pm | #
V4V
Did you make any $ today?
qlª |
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12.15.07 - 5:28 pm | #
I'm getting sick and tired of Japan cutting in on American auto markets
Well fuck, Al - they just recalled about 15% of the Toyota Tundra 4x4 trucks sold in the past 3 years.
Barndog, dirty fucking hippie |
12.15.07 - 5:28 pm | #
I'm getting sick and tired of Japan cutting in on American auto markets.
al
I'm getting sick and tired of US auto executives.
MP |
12.15.07 - 5:28 pm | #
I didn't know there was a Military Channel
A while back, A & E used to be called the WW II channel. All those old documentaries pop up on the Military Channel now.
Richard |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:28 pm | #
Real but not natural
nick carraway
Right. And they're clearly "hers," too.
Ooooh, Scrooged is on!
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:28 pm | #
Damn Moon, what am I gonna read while you're at work?
1Watt, Hermit |
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12.15.07 - 5:28 pm | #
"Autopsy" once had a segment where the identity of a decomposed body was determined by the serial numbers of her silicone implants, lying nearby.
Marcellina |
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12.15.07 - 5:29 pm | #
She's a cattle dog, but with only three feet, can't out run the yearlings.
How did she lose a leg? One of my neighbors had a dog who had cancer in a leg and they amputated it. The dog did fine on three legs and lived for many more years.
Echidne |
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12.15.07 - 5:29 pm | #
Really, WTF? The hippies were more dangerous than the Secesh?
NTodd, Beating Down Dana
I was going to say, "yeah, but no one spit on returning civil war veterans," but actually, simels did that, too.
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.15.07 - 5:29 pm | #
Brokaw's a good egg. He's best friends with Yves Chouinard.
Econ 102 |
12.15.07 - 5:29 pm | #
Did you make any $ today?
qlª
Thirty fucking bucks. The ad was screwed up -- we didn't get ONE hit off it. I was amazed that we didn't have any early birds, and in fact no one showed up until 9 when Mr. V said, "We need a sign."
I'm pretty pissed.
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:30 pm | #
Which Roman Emperor was rumored to have a really big dick?
Elagabalus
Moonbootica, Employed
When he was Emperor the Romans got the shaft.
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.15.07 - 5:31 pm | #
OK, I have to ask - is Miss October, um, alive?
Upsidasium |
12.15.07 - 5:31 pm | #
The Wall street Journal has an article on how an Arizona crackdown on illegal immigrants is causing the consternation and exodus of businessmen.
rain |
12.15.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Sorry, but that horse has already left the barn.
Richard |
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12.15.07 - 5:31 pm | #
an historical, factually correct, history of war channel would be interesting. won't ever happen on teevee, but in the alternative universe in which president gore has taxed media conglomerates to the bone, to pay for educational media resources, it's a great idea. broadcast globally, to educate kids out of thinking that war is "glory."
chicago dyke, bitch |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Brokaw was a Reagan syncophant who could barely, yet he could, keep his politics off of the air. Now he's unleashed, and it hasn't aquitted him well, at all.
MP |
12.15.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Sorry, but that horse has already left the barn
That horse is goddamm dead.
Barndog, dirty fucking hippie |
12.15.07 - 5:32 pm | #
A syncophant never forgets to suck up just the way you like it.
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 5:34 pm | #
my father is interested in military history, he has all sorts of books on the subject
on fighter aircrafts, tanks, artillery, tactics
his latest book he brought is on Military Obituaries
he is a bit of a plane spotter, when he was younger he tells me he would paint models of airplanes and hang them up in his room
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Maybe someone will claim the #4 automaker is the #1 automaker again. That was a good one.
Econ 102 |
12.15.07 - 5:34 pm | #
The Wall street Journal has an article on how an Arizona crackdown on illegal immigrants is causing the consternation and exodus of businessmen
Somewhat on topic, the 1861-1865 crackdown on slaving led to the consternation and exodus of planters.
And had the WSJ been around then, they would be decrying this 'Government restraint of the Freee Markut' then too.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:34 pm | #
Currently watching doc on Egypt on Discovery.
Testing DNA looking for Hatshepsut.
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.15.07 - 5:35 pm | #
Federal Reserve Officials Plan Steps to Crack Down on Shady Mortgage Lending Practices
Next: Department of Justice Plans to Halt Political Hiring Practices
Barndog,
Husband caught/released an old-looking Chinook salmon today on the Nehalem river in OR. This area was hit hard by Mother Nature last week. The location was about a mile from the 700 yr old spruce that finally went down (100mph winds). Across the river from where they were fishing was a wall of Douglas Fir tree roots, each 20' high.
ErinPDX |
12.15.07 - 5:36 pm | #
Maybe someone will claim the #4 automaker is the #1 automaker again.
Toyota's not #4.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:36 pm | #
A syncophant never forgets to suck up just the way you like it.
I like the beat, but I can't dance to it.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:37 pm | #
OK, I have to ask - is Miss October, um, alive?
Call Dr. Bill Frist. He will diagnose from the picture - once he gets it back in his pants, anyway.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:38 pm | #
I'm pretty pissed.
V for Virginia
Here's a nice IPA to help.
qlª |
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12.15.07 - 5:38 pm | #
I'm gonna watch this great movie and hang out with the d00d.
Y'all have a great evening, mmmmmkay? See ya soonlike.
V for Virginia |
12.15.07 - 5:38 pm | #
Federal Reserve Officials Plan Steps to Crack Down on Shady Mortgage Lending Practices
Next: Department of Justice Plans to Halt Political Hiring Practices
Breaking: Cheney To Stop Drinking Human Blood
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.15.07 - 5:38 pm | #
Erin - I saw a pic of that 700 yr old spruce tree. That, albeit a shame - is part of the cycle.
Barndog, dirty fucking hippie |
12.15.07 - 5:38 pm | #
my mum and dad are talking to my niece via the computer microphone and she can see them on webcam
The photographer apparently specializes in "dead girl" pictures - some on his website. Maybe they're intended for the GOP death cult.
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 5:41 pm | #
Hey GWPDA, where's that US Order of Battle for 1914?!
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 5:42 pm | #
spruce's are tuff. heh.
Shoulda bent like a willow in the wind. Worked for Muad'Dib.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
Homepage |
12.15.07 - 5:42 pm | #
spruce's are tuff. heh.
Also clean. And articulate.
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 5:42 pm | #
Not that anyone really cares, but my longtime Rep Julia Carson passed away today..had I lived a few blocks over my Rep would have been Dan Burton
Karatist Preacher |
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12.15.07 - 5:42 pm | #
How did she lose a leg? One of my neighbors had a dog who had cancer in
a leg and they amputated it. The dog did fine on three legs and lived
for many more years.
Muskrat trap? I took her about a year ago, her owner had several boxers & shepards that were picking on her because she was crippled. Apparently the trap didn't sever her foot, but she was trapped overnight & it got frostbite. She was an outside dog for 6 yrs. took less than a week to housetrain her. She's pretty neurotic when it comes to t-storms, but has turned into a pretty sweet girl dog. She also has a huge V-shaped bite out of one of ears from an encounter with a barn cat' when she was a puppy.
Some of those old trees have been around since before the formation of the continent.
boot |
12.15.07 - 5:42 pm | #
The photographer apparently specializes in "dead girl" pictures - some on his website. Maybe they're intended for the GOP death cult.
Not that i was looking, but Miss September seemed pretty lively.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:43 pm | #
The cone tree is one of the oldest forms of life on the planet.
boot |
12.15.07 - 5:43 pm | #
an historical, factually correct, history of war channel would be interesting. won't ever happen on teevee, but in the alternative universe in which president gore has taxed media conglomerates to the bone, to pay for educational media resources, it's a great idea. broadcast globally, to educate kids out of thinking that war is "glory."
chicago dyke, bitch
The place with all the old trees is the High Sierra.
It was, before the Hai Karate choppers showed up.
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 5:43 pm | #
Some of those spruces have been around longer than Simels.
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 5:43 pm | #
You know, Miss October sure has great posture.
bill
but strange looking boob...
Shaw Kenawe, DFH
It's her contribution to global offsets.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
12.15.07 - 5:43 pm | #
Wouldn't George Bush's mistresses look more like Dick Cheney and that the jowly oil executive?
George Johnston |
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12.15.07 - 5:43 pm | #
Those old trees are said to have great spiritual powers.
boot |
12.15.07 - 5:44 pm | #
The special tonight is the Eight Piece Box.
You can eat some now,
you can eat some later.
You warm it back up with your
French fried potato.
Troutski |
12.15.07 - 5:44 pm | #
The Great War wasn't all that great.
NTodd, Beating Down Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:46 pm | #
That, albeit a shame - is part of the cycle.
True
But I guess it looks like a war zone all the way to the coast. A person with a truck and chainsaw could make a bundle.
ErinPDX |
12.15.07 - 5:46 pm | #
The B&W one looking over her shoulder?
Yup. Unlike the others, a derailer of trains of thought.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:47 pm | #
People in Musa Qala have told the BBC there were significant civilian casualties in the operation to take the Afghan town from the Taleban.
One resident, Wali Mohammed, said he had counted 15 bodies of women and children lying dead in one street.
The Afghan authorities have said that civilian casualties were far smaller. UK officials say two children died.
The south-western town fell to a coalition of British and American forces earlier this week.
I heard it was a gas.
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 5:47 pm | #
How many WW1 vets have you spoken with personally?
boot |
12.15.07 - 5:47 pm | #
It's her contribution to global offsets.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office
Hee... the galaxy is needing to do something to balance out our excessive behavior?
racymind |
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12.15.07 - 5:47 pm | #
Well, if you live in Michigan, you understand what it's like to have the entire state clearcut numerous times.
Barndog, dirty fucking hippie |
12.15.07 - 5:48 pm | #
Kate Mosse (born 20 October 1961) is an English author and broadcaster. She was educated at Chichester High School and New College, Oxford. After graduating she spent seven years in publishing.
In 1996 she published her first novel, Eskimo Kissing, about a young, adopted woman searching for her background. This was followed in 1998 by the thriller Crucifix Lane. In 2005 she had international success with her novel, Labyrinth, an adventure story set both in the Middle Ages and the present.
Franco Zeffirelli, the Italian film, stage and opera director, has said Pope Benedict XVI needs a makeover of his "cold" image and "showy" clothes.
Zeffirelli told La Stampa newspaper that the Pope communicated in a cold way that was little suited to what was happening around him.
These are not times for high tailoring in papal vestments, he said.
He contrasted the relaxed attitude of the late Pope John Paul II to his official attire with that of Benedict.
Lacking his predecessor's charisma, Pope Benedict has taken to wearing some eye-stopping outfits in public, such as a red velvet cape trimmed with ermine, last worn by popes in the 19th Century.
When he donned a fur-trimmed red cap, some people mistook it for a Santa Claus hat.
ms mestizo brought home a snoopy tree.
felt sorry for it. smells good though and with 500 ornaments it thinks its a spruce.
mestizO |
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12.15.07 - 5:50 pm | #
Oh, THAT Kate Mosse.
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 5:50 pm | #
I heard it was a gas.
That was over the top, man.
NTodd, Beaten by Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:50 pm | #
Kate Mosse (born 20 October 1961) is an English author
The 'e' is for 'evidently not a coked-up model badly in need of a sammich.'
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 5:50 pm | #
My great-grandfather fought in WWI, in the Austro-Hungarian Army.
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 5:50 pm | #
Isn't that a special niche. [eye rolling emoticon]
You're gonna talk like that, take it Over There.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:51 pm | #
ms mestizo brought home a snoopy tree.
felt sorry for it. smells good though and with 500 ornaments it thinks its a spruce.
Must. Not. Watch. Charlie. Brown. Again.
Yet.
NTodd, Beaten by Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:51 pm | #
Hey GWPDA, where's that US Order of Battle for 1914?!
The Kenosha Kid
I think it's still classified Top Secret - largely because there's heredity agency left to declassify it.... Still, it's true. Teh Germans? They lost.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast |
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12.15.07 - 5:51 pm | #
How many WW1 vets have you spoken with personally?
2 or 3. I met a Marine who fought in the battle of Belleau Wood in the mid 60's.
Barndog, dirty fucking hippie |
12.15.07 - 5:52 pm | #
I've probably talked to a few WW1 vets without knowing it. It's a shame because they're all dead now and the future will hold questions for which they'll be silent.
boot |
12.15.07 - 5:52 pm | #
That was over the top, man.
It was the only path of glory I could mustard.
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 5:52 pm | #
simels' great-grandson fought in WW1
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.15.07 - 5:54 pm | #
the vietnam war was so devisive cause it showed that wars are not for rich man's sons.
mestizO |
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12.15.07 - 5:54 pm | #
My great-grandfather fought in WWI, in the Austro-Hungarian Army.
The Kenosha Kid
What part did he come from? What language did he speak?
Marcellina |
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12.15.07 - 5:54 pm | #
My great-grandfather fought in WWI, in the Austro-Hungarian Army.
The Kenosha Kid
One of the strangest elements (to me) of the Great War is that draft orders issued by the various European powers had effect on 'citizens' in the United States. Thus, a great number of Serbs in the KC area actually returned after receiving orders.... Wacky. My family just kept heading west, like sensible people.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast |
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12.15.07 - 5:54 pm | #
5yo: Definitely, definitely not. Don't even joke about it!
whiskey girl |
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12.15.07 - 5:55 pm | #
2 or 3. I met a Marine who fought in the battle of Belleau Wood in the mid 60's.
that was my grandfather also, one of the "First to Fight".
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:55 pm | #
You're gonna talk like that, take it Over There.
Oh Willy McBride, you know pun threads happen again and again and again and again and again...
NTodd, Beaten by Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:55 pm | #
Isn't Miss October simply Miss June after her "date" with NTodd?
lipreader |
12.15.07 - 5:55 pm | #
Zeffirelli told La Stampa newspaper that the Pope communicated in a cold way that was little suited to what was happening around him.
Not touching it with a ten foot pole.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.15.07 - 5:55 pm | #
What part did he come from? What language did he speak?
Vienna. German.
He was one of those guys that said the Nazis wouldn't come for him, he was a veteran and war hero. Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed.
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 5:55 pm | #
Are you watching the History Channel's depiction of 1968? Hell, fucking Lester Maddox may as well have produced that bullshit one-sided offering of that tumultuous year.
by accident!! yeah, i was napping on the couch, had the history channel on and suddenly, up popped pat. he must work cheap--he's everywhere.
PutzFinder |
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12.15.07 - 5:56 pm | #
5yo: I want popcorn for dinner.
Me: How 'bout quesadillas?
5yo: Definitely, definitely not. Don't even joke about it!
Great, now I have to chlorine my keyboard...
NTodd, Beaten by Dana |
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12.15.07 - 5:56 pm | #
He was one of those guys that said the Nazis wouldn't come for him, he was a veteran and war hero.
Oy. A lot of veterans thought that.
Marcellina |
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12.15.07 - 5:57 pm | #
My grandfather fought in WWI.
What a different world we might have today if the Archduke Ferdinand's driver hadn't make that wrong turn and given the assassin's the one extra chance they needed to kill him, or if the bullet that killed Hitler's buddy in the trench had been off by a few inches and got the future Fuehrer instead.
Richard |
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12.15.07 - 5:57 pm | #
I guess this part wasn't great enough to justify a functioning link.
The Kenosha Kid
Oh go jump in a lake and swallow a snake and come up with a bellyache. You think I have time to monitor all this stuff all the time?
Whisky, I presume he still has deep scars over the quesadilla incident.
If there ever was one.
EkCenTriK |
12.15.07 - 5:57 pm | #
Oh go jump in a lake and swallow a snake and come up with a bellyache.
May I please borrow that?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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12.15.07 - 5:58 pm | #
How many WW1 vets have you spoken with personally?
Grandpa Bill (RIP) and his buddies at the Odd Fellows Home. British Army. Somme, bitches!
bill buckner |
12.15.07 - 5:58 pm | #
Oh Willy McBride, you know pun threads happen again and again and again and again and again...
Dammed punsters retrench and come at you again.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 5:59 pm | #
if the bullet that killed Hitler's buddy in the trench had been off by a few inches and got the future Fuehrer instead.
Richard | Homepage | 12.15.07 - 5:57 pm | #
if you haven't read stephen fry's "making history," you really ought to.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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12.15.07 - 5:59 pm | #
on my grandfather's side one of his relations is listed on the Menin Gate
he was 15 years old when killed in combat
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 5:59 pm | #
Okay off to do dinner battle.
See you later...
whiskey girl |
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12.15.07 - 5:59 pm | #
How many Civil War vets have you spoken with personally?
boot |
12.15.07 - 5:59 pm | #
Oh go jump in a lake and swallow a snake and come up with a bellyache. You think I have time to monitor all this stuff all the time?
Ouch. I was just curious about that because I thought the US didn't even have a standing army in 1914. Wasn't it all just National Guard and an expeditionary force chasing after Pancho Villa?
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 5:59 pm | #
My dad moved off the reservation, otherwise I would not have be subject to the draft.. It didn't matter I enlisted.
1Watt, Hermit |
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12.15.07 - 6:00 pm | #
Well the tree is up. The lights are on the tree. We are waiting for the traditional string dragged off tree by cat moment. Once that happens, we can restore the lights and continue with the ornaments. We always learn when we allow the enemy to test our defenses.
EkCenTriK |
12.15.07 - 6:00 pm | #
if you haven't read stephen fry's "making history," you really ought to.
The overcoat story?
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 6:00 pm | #
Wasn't it all just National Guard and an expeditionary force chasing after Pancho Villa?
It took 31 years, but the moral bankruptcy, social imbalance, legal impracticality and ultimate futility of the death penalty has finally penetrated the consciences of lawmakers in one of the 37 states that arrogates to itself the right to execute human beings...
it took political courage for lawmakers to join with Governor Corzine. Their renunciation of the death penalty could prick the conscience of elected officials in other states and inspire them to muster the courage to revisit their own laws on capital punishment.
And now, if you want to remember why you occasionally need to be proud of your country, here's Harry Blackmun:
It is tempting, when faced with conflicting constitutional commands, to sacrifice one for the other or to assume that an acceptable balance between them already has been struck. In the context of the death penalty, however, such jurisprudential maneuvers are wholly inappropriate. The death penalty must be imposed "fairly, and with reasonable consistency, or not at all." Eddings v. Oklahoma, 455 U.S. 104, 112 (1982). [*8]...
From this day forward, I no longer shall tinker with the machinery of death. For more than twenty years I have endeavored—indeed, I have struggled—along with a majority of this Court, to develop procedural and substantive rules that would lend more than the mere appearance of fairness to the death penalty endeavor.1 Rather than continue to coddle the Court's delusion that the desired level of fairness has been achieved [*10]and the need for regulation eviscerated, I feel morally and intellectually obligated simply to concede that the death penalty experiment has failed. It is virtually self-evident to me now that no combination of procedural rules or substantive regulations ever can save the death penalty from its inherent constitutional deficiencies. The basic question—does the system accurately and consistently determine which defendants "deserve" to die?—cannot be answered in the affirmative. It is not simply that this Court has allowed vague aggravating circumstances to be employed, see, e. g., Arave v. Creech, U.S. (1993), relevant mitigating evidence to be disregarded, see, e. g., Johnson v. Texas, U.S. (1993),and vital judicial review to be blocked, see, e. g., Coleman v. Thompson, 501 U.S. (1991). The problem is that the inevitability of factual, legal, and moral error gives us a system that we know must wrongly kill some defendants, a system that fails to deliver the fair, consistent, and reliable sentences of death required by the Constitution.2
So we're supposed to get this snowstorm starting at midnight.
We dug out the snowblower, and it started on the first try (John Deere bought 14 years ago in Ames, Iowa). Not that it gets used tons every years, but still...
pie |
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12.15.07 - 6:03 pm | #
I'm listening to Otis Redding sing White Christmas on the Blues Channel.
boot |
12.15.07 - 6:05 pm | #
Discovery now showing special on the building of the Pyramids.
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.15.07 - 6:05 pm | #
Richard. I think that is one reason I like time travel books. I like to think of the "what if" questions. Some times it IS about the person, others times it's about more than the person, but the entire environment that leads to someone who takes advantage of what the environment has set up.
For example Bush/Rove have set up our country (as well as Grover Norquist and their philosophy) for a "leader" who is even more authoritarian that Bush.
I read a great book about the environment in Germany leading up to the rise of power in Hitler and of course like lots of people I was looking at the attitudes of the people. One thing that was very interesting was the massive economic switch that happened where kids were becoming millionaire with stock and then the people were were teachers were begging for food. After the stock market crashed these kids missed that feeling of being in power and wanted it back.
I found that more interesting than the usual reasons given for the German people support of Hitler.
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12.15.07 - 6:06 pm | #
Ouch. I was just curious about that because I thought the US didn't even have a standing army in 1914. Wasn't it all just National Guard and an expeditionary force chasing after Pancho Villa?
The Kenosha Kid
Ur right, to a degree. Yes, they did have a Regular Army, and yes, it was in fact chasing Pancho Villa, up til/to 1917. I do not know why I have an Order of Battle 1914 for the US. I'm checking. You should know that the gwpda.org site has been thru three locations since I started it in 1995, and that I've had a bunch of 'buffs' adding material, and I myself have had (depending on the definition) either two or three nervous breakdowns dealing with the whole thing. So, stuff has gotten lost a little bit - and I thank you for calling it to my attention. I'm checking, mechanically now.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast |
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12.15.07 - 6:06 pm | #
I remember being around some of my grandparents friends and relatives who were in WWI. Remember my grandmother talking about one who was sick a lot. Mustard gas.
george WALKER bush was part owner of the TEXAS RANGERs.
Coincidence? My ass....
lipreader |
His stake money (that he 'earned' when a friend of his fathers bought Chimpy's Harken stocks well above what they were worth) came out to about 1 or 2% ownership of the team.
Bond, James Bond |
12.15.07 - 6:07 pm | #
Discovery, The History Channel, and National Geographic would be really great channels if they had any credibility at all.
But they don't.
lipreader |
12.15.07 - 6:07 pm | #
Anna was born out of wedlock, her mother had an affair with a British diplomat and this was hushed up for many years
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 6:08 pm | #
I read a great book about the environment in Germany leading up to the rise of power in Hitler....
I'm reading Richard J. Evans' "The Coming of the Third Reich" right now. Would that be the one?
bill buckner |
12.15.07 - 6:08 pm | #
The pun threads are indeed always here, so it's a long way to temporary.
Des Moines Register endorsement coming tongiht at 9 PM EST. Excitement is building at dkos. Informed speculation is on Joe Biden. I am still hoping for Hillary though. Two top editors and the publisher are women.
ecoast |
12.15.07 - 6:08 pm | #
Discovery now showing special on the building of the Pyramids.
Do they discuss the built-by-ancient-Atlantians-with-flying-saucers theories? Also called the "Black People Couldn't Have Been Smart Emnough, So It Had to Be White Guys, Somehow, Somewhere"?
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 6:08 pm | #
it's raining. and perdue didn't even pray for it this time.
and i've got to drive to decatur. about an hour in this weather. curtain is at 8.
so i'm history.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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12.15.07 - 6:08 pm | #
Remember my grandmother talking about one who was sick a lot. Mustard gas.
Awful.
pie |
My grandmother's uncle was hit with it in France. Was never the same, lived with his parents for the rest of his life. Drank a lot.
Marcellina |
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12.15.07 - 6:09 pm | #
"But they don't.
lipreader"
I have noticed a lot of the suspense filled discovery documentaries seem a wee bit too contrived.
One had a dive team going to the edge one more time just before a storm set in. And it was the LAST diver opportunity of the season and there was no more cash and someone had a hangnail.
EkCenTriK |
12.15.07 - 6:09 pm | #
Discovery now showing special on the building of the Pyramids.
Culture of TrÜth |
Lemme guess - they have 3D computer generated animation proving that the Egyptians built the pyramids with the help of dinosaurs. After all, how else could they do it!
Bond, James Bond |
12.15.07 - 6:09 pm | #
Discovery, The History Channel, and National Geographic would be really great channels if they had any credibility at all. But they don't.
Don't you go dissing on the Mythbusters, mithter, err, buster!
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 6:09 pm | #
Matilda F. Christiansen (1868-1911)
Wow. There is a strong family resemblance there. Though, I think you are far prettier.
Remember my grandmother talking about one who was sick a lot. Mustard gas.
Awful.
pie
Yes - my great Uncle George who died of TB after being gassed in the war. Thus my horror on learning that the various papers which were kept in the secret vault at the Ft. Leavenworth history office were all contaminated with various forms of mustard and other toxins. They came straight out of known locations from the first Iraq War, and were identified by Army chemical testing clerks, after the staff complained of shortness of breath and other issues.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast |
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12.15.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Des Moines Register endorsement coming tongiht at 9 PM EST. Excitement is building at dkos. Informed speculation is on Joe Biden. I am still hoping for Hillary though. Two top editors and the publisher are women.
ecoast
John Edwards or bust.
lipreader |
12.15.07 - 6:10 pm | #
I'm reading Richard J. Evans' "The Coming of the Third Reich" right now. Would that be the one?
bill buckner
It's just you dressed up in old timey clothes.
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 6:10 pm | #
The Wall Street Journal has another story on how Goldman Sachs bet against the housing market and won big. Two guys in their mid 30's led the charge and stand to make 10 million each this year.
key |
12.15.07 - 6:10 pm | #
Discovery now showing special on the building of the Pyramids.
Aliens built them. You can see them from space. That is where the aliens lived. They like pyramids. That is why they built them. The aliens can see the pyramids from outer space. The pyramids look like squares from outer space. The aliens also carved the Grand Canyon. They like pyramids and big canyons.
Stunt Woman |
12.15.07 - 6:11 pm | #
good nite all.
mestizO |
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12.15.07 - 6:11 pm | #
"Two guys in their mid 30's led the charge and stand to make 10 million each this year."
Considering the enormity of all that is coming, that is all they made?
EkCenTriK |
12.15.07 - 6:11 pm | #
Perino: It’s ‘Awkward’ Having ‘Other Channels’ Besides Fox News At White House Parties
jawbone |
12.15.07 - 6:11 pm | #
They came straight out of known locations from the first Iraq War, and were identified by Army chemical testing clerks, after the staff complained of shortness of breath and other issues.
Oh, lovely.
Yet, they're supposedly worried about chemical and biological weapons?
pie |
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12.15.07 - 6:12 pm | #
her name is very pretty
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 6:13 pm | #
Their boss will get 70 million. They were just little guys in a trading room with 15 people.
key |
12.15.07 - 6:14 pm | #
The aliens can see the pyramids from outer space. The pyramids look like squares from outer space. The aliens also carved the Grand Canyon. They like pyramids and big canyons.
Stunt Woman
I think they were responsible for Elvis' face being on Mars too.
Bond, James Bond |
12.15.07 - 6:14 pm | #
I'm reading Richard J. Evans' "The Coming of the Third Reich" right now. Would that be the one?
bill buckner | 12.15.07 - 6:08 pm'
0000-----
Actually I don't remember the name but the book was a diary of a professor who wrote about this time from when he was still a teenager during the late 1930s in Germany. It was only published years after he died. His son published it.
I liked his description of things like going to dances and the types of people he interacted with.
spocko |
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12.15.07 - 6:14 pm | #
They came straight out of known locations from the first Iraq War, and were identified by Army chemical testing clerks, after the staff complained of shortness of breath and other issues.
Oh, lovely.
Yet, they're supposedly worried about chemical and biological weapons?
The very definition of a "stunned look" is the first time the scaremongers are faced with an actual example of what they go on about.
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Cynicus |
12.15.07 - 6:15 pm | #
Oh, lovely.
Yet, they're supposedly worried about chemical and biological weapons?
pie
We were silenced, dearie. Yes, the US used chemical weapons, identifiable, absolutely forbidden chemical weapons.
I still have the analysis of the various chemicals - you see, chemicals survive on paper where they dissipate in the air or on other surfaces. And what we were handling was paper.
But I was dismissed, and the others involved were silenced and none of us were allowed to mention it.
Still. Yes, the US did use straightforward, forbidden chemical weapons in the first Iraq War. There is not doubt about it at all. Mustard too.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast |
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12.15.07 - 6:15 pm | #
They like pyramids and big canyons.
Therefore.... the photographer for the Bush calendar is an alien?
JeffCO |
12.15.07 - 6:15 pm | #
"I think they were responsible for Elvis' face being on Mars too."
I thought it was Brando when I saw it.
EkCenTriK |
12.15.07 - 6:15 pm | #
I don't think the Register would endorse Biden-- or Hillary either... if not a second Edwards endorsement, then Obama.
nick carraway |
12.15.07 - 6:16 pm | #
Just started The Shock Doctrine.
I think I'm gonna have to skip a bunch of stuff about the CIA's torture programs in the 50s.
And she's already freaked me out, in the introduction.
V for Virginia
Stay with it... I think it's the most important book I've ever read. It just gets more and more amazing.
But it is really, really disturbing, in a way that stays with you.
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12.15.07 - 6:16 pm | #
They like pyramids and big canyons.
Therefore.... the photographer for the Bush calendar is an alien?
JeffCO
The Egyptian Civilization was simply too old to be capable of such engineering feats. Remember the peak of Egyptian Civilization was nearly 2500 years before the arrival of Christ.
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12.15.07 - 6:16 pm | #
Richard. I think that is one reason I like time travel books. I like to think of the "what if" questions. Some times it IS about the person, others times it's about more than the person, but the entire environment that leads to someone who takes advantage of what the environment has set up.
One aspect I like to think about is how we all are really a product of history.
My father was from Latvia, a country that was taken over by the Soviets in 1940, and was under German influence during part of WW II. He emigrated to Canada in 1948 after he had fled his homeland (he didn't enjoy the prospect of life under Stalin). Eight years later, he met my mother (they were both in the Canadian armed forces), and I was born seven years after that.
Without the events precipitated by Hitler and Stalin, I wouldn't be around today.
Richard |
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12.15.07 - 6:17 pm | #
Des Moines Register endorsement coming tongiht at 9 PM EST. Excitement is building at dkos. Informed speculation is on Joe Biden. I am still hoping for Hillary though. Two top editors and the publisher are women.
ecoast
***excitement building at dkos***
break out the ovaltine.
no no nsense |
12.15.07 - 6:17 pm | #
I think Miss October is an alien, from an alternate silicon-based universe.
Stunt Woman |
12.15.07 - 6:18 pm | #
by the time Alexander the Great arrived on Egypt's doorstep, the Pyramids were already over a thousand years old
pretty cool when you think about it
Moonbootica, Employed |
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12.15.07 - 6:18 pm | #
Still. Yes, the US did use straightforward, forbidden chemical weapons in the first Iraq War. There is not doubt about it at all. Mustard too.
I hate us.
pie |
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12.15.07 - 6:18 pm | #
BTW, has anyone penned a paen to the good sense and perhaps politcal bravery of the NJ state legislators--for doing away with the death penalty in NJ?
jawbone |
12.15.07 - 6:18 pm | #
Without the events precipitated by Hitler and Stalin, I wouldn't be around today.
So Jonah Goldberg was right after all.
The Kenosha Kid |
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12.15.07 - 6:18 pm | #
BTW, has anyone penned a paen to the good sense and perhaps politcal bravery of the NJ state legislators--for doing away with the death penalty in NJ?
jawbone
NJ is the only state that I support the death penalty in.
lipreader |
12.15.07 - 6:19 pm | #
well actually none of us would be around if things had been altered by so much as a second or two-------
no no nsense |
12.15.07 - 6:19 pm | #
NJ is the only state that I support the death penalty in.
lipreader | 12.15.07 - 6:19 pm | #
Richard: Maybe what your story tells us is good things come to Canada.
"Canada, is there anything it can't do?"
spocko |
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12.15.07 - 6:20 pm | #
"Without the events precipitated by Hitler and Stalin, I wouldn't be around today."
Reminds me in a way of something I run into when talking about my parents.
When I sometimes consider them not meeting (possibly a good thing), someone invariably pipes up with "But you wouldn't be here and how would you feel then?"
EkCenTriK |
12.15.07 - 6:20 pm | #
Damn, I did not know that, GWPDA--I thought the horror of depleted uranium was bad enough. I assume we used white phosphorous and cluster bombs as well?
Along with the fish in a barrel shoot...which reportedly made some of our soldiers sick. Can't be a good think to live with.
jawbone |
12.15.07 - 6:21 pm | #
The Des Moines Register is a Republican rag.
john |
12.15.07 - 6:21 pm | #
Limestone and slave labor
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.15.07 - 6:21 pm | #
If you are questioning whether you should read The Shock Doctrine, go to the website.
racymind |
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12.15.07 - 6:21 pm | #
"But you wouldn't be here and how would you feel then?"
EkCenTriK
I lived here when there was no death penalty, went through the death penalty era (not sure how many executed--none perhaps?), now back to no death penalty.
So, one of my personal requirements for a state is now satisfied by living here: I will not live in a state with the death penalty or concealed carry laws.
jawbone |
12.15.07 - 6:23 pm | #
Did the Egyptians search for the origin of the Nile?
boot |
12.15.07 - 6:23 pm | #
what about miniature concealed electric chairs?
no no nsense |
12.15.07 - 6:23 pm | #
Any chance chemical weapon contaminants were from, say, Iraqi weapons we sold them, that they shot at our soldiers?
That the Pentagon then denied were ever used, so as to avoid the healthcare bills for a BUNCH of "Gulf War Syndrome" vets?
But I AM here in a parallel universe and I look really cool in it, but the people are nicer in this universe.
I think about parallel universes and I think about the people who are living in the won in which Ronald Reagan kept acting and stayed out of politics. Or the one in which Al Gore won. (That one has been done on Family Guy)
But for ever universe where a good thing happens is there one where a bad thing happens? I think we are in that one.
"You mean in your universe that alcoholic deadbeat son of the CIA president got elected? That's just insane, next thing I know you'll tell me in your universe they threw the constitution out the window."
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12.15.07 - 6:25 pm | #
i remember why Presidential debates were dominated by questions about the death penalty.
You see, kids, in those days there was a lot of crime, and in order to tell if someone was going to do something about it, you found out their position on executing people.
This was before we realized how stupid that was.
Culture of TrÜth |
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12.15.07 - 6:25 pm | #
I'm not impressed by the History Channel
bill
Has way too much of a right wing slant for my liking.
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12.15.07 - 6:26 pm | #
Snowing like crazy here near Chicago, with a prediction of 6 to 10 inches tonight. Get your minds out of the gutter.
strawhat |
12.15.07 - 6:27 pm | #
The Egyptian Civilization was simply too old to be capable of such engineering feats. Remember the peak of Egyptian Civilization was nearly 2500 years before the arrival of Christ.
mill
jack:
Why do you insist on boring the hell out of everyone here?
Terry C - Democratic Bitch |
12.15.07 - 6:28 pm | #
well actually none of us would be around if things had been altered by so much as a second or two-------
One of the biggest axes I have to grind is with "the universe is 'fine-tuned', therefore god exists" argument. It's all based on the premise that if an event has a very low probability of occurring, it must be "special" and therefore must have a miraculous origin.
The fact of the matter is that virtually everything, from the completely mundane to the profound, is a product of low probability events. They aren't special. They are the norm. It couldn't be otherwise.
Using "fine-tuning" arguments, I could use the fact that I took a shit at 10:37 AM as evidence for the existence of god.
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12.15.07 - 6:33 pm | #
Franco Zeffirelli, the Italian film, stage and opera director, has said Pope Benedict XVI needs a makeover of his "cold" image and "showy" clothes.
Let's make him a better dressed authoritarian prick, shall we?
Terry C - Democratic Bitch |
12.15.07 - 6:36 pm | #