I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarIndeed.


GravatarBye, Squarepants.


GravatarThe other guy won partly because he got drunk and went to Scores in NYC to ogle topless dancers. Thus proving that politics is more advanced in other countries.


GravatarHe could puke further, too.


GravatarNot only gone as PM but also as an MP. He lost his seat too.


GravatarGood to have him gone. Now if only the Russians could figure out how to throw out Putin.


GravatarDon't go away mad...just go away.


GravatarDon't we elect people *because* they're assholes here?


GravatarToday I was saved by the cold weather from having to clean out the gutters of the Tralfaz ancestral estate. The gutters are solid ice. So we hauled some wood instead.


GravatarResults as they are for his division.


Gravatarthanks Billy King. the sixers are horrendous. you traded Allen Iverson for . . . . .? first round picks and then you didnt tank the season? Thad Young? he doesnt even play.

i dont get it.

at least the Flyers seem to be doing the right thing.

and the Phillies. . . such cock-teases.


GravatarBush losing one of his steadfast apologists on the world stage? This can only be good news for Republicans.


Gravatarwell ok here are the results for his division.
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivis...s-13745- 105.htm


GravatarHi y'all.


GravatarRe-HICA!

Small tasks accomplished.
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GravatarPope Benedict XVI has elevated 23 prelates from around the world to the position of cardinal and delivered a pressing appeal for an end to war in Iraq.

One of the new cardinals is Emmanuel III Delly, the Baghdad-based Patriarch of Babylon of the Chaldeans.

During a ceremony in St Peter's Basilica on Saturday, the pope said Christians in Iraq were "feeling with their own flesh the dramatic consequences of an enduring conflict".

The Chaldeans are Iraq's biggest Christian group and the Chaldean rite is one of oldest in the Catholic Church.

Saddam protection

Many Iraqi Chaldeans have emigrated since the war started in 2003 and the Vatican has expressed concern that a country with one of the most ancient Christian traditions could be depleted of its faithful.

Protected under Saddam Hussein, there were 700,00 Christians in Iraq.

It is now thought that only half that number remain.


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ ...647E554AA23.htm


GravatarDon't we elect people *because* they're assholes here?
Molly Ivors

Usually Gooper assholes are selected. Although an occasional blue dog Dem gets in.


GravatarBilbo, “the Man” vs. Bilbo, the halfling


Gravatar{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}


GravatarGreat news: not only have Howard's Liberals lost the election, but the now former PM has even lost his seat according to exit polls and the latest count. That is only the second time it has happened in Australia's entire period of independence - the last time it happened was in 1929 when the Nationalist Stanley Bruce lost to Labour, and the Nationalists were wiped out as a party. In addition, the Liberal minister responsible for invading the Northern Territories, Mal Brough, has lost his seat. The long-awaited electoral backlash against the 'war on terror' and neoliberalism has finally happened, big time. Labour looks to have taken 53% of the vote.

Unfortunately, the new Prime Minister is one of these cretinous Third Way politicians who supports neoliberal policies and defended "Israel's right to defend itself" during its attack on Lebanon in 2006. Though opposed to the war on Iraq, he favours keeping Australian troops in Iraq for non-combat purposes, supports the war on Afghanistan and is an advocate of the alliance with the US. He wants to keep much of the present government's regressive industrial relations legislation, and business sees him as an ally against union militancy. He favours 'quarantining' welfare payments for aboriginals and extending it to drug addicts.


http://leninology.blogspot.com/2...tion- shock.html


Gravatarthanks Billy King. the sixers are horrendous

Damn time flies. It just doesn't seem that long ago that I watched him play for Park View High School in Northern Virginia.


GravatarSorry for the blogwhore, but the Jewish Beatles are over at the homepage, and I don't know what I think of this.


GravatarAmerica has become the destination place for Europeans with cash since the US dollar has fallen so low in the world's esteem.

All those foreign shoppers and rising prices on foreign goods are just another "benefit" of having had Bushboy in the WH for the past 7 years!


GravatarMP Billy King? he was pretty good for Duke too.

its not all his fault i suppose and some of his draft picks are good. but they should have thrown the season last year.


GravatarThough opposed to the war on Iraq, he favours keeping Australian troops in Iraq
First France and now Australia. It seems the Bush junta has been exporting it election stealing technology.


GravatarThe Oxford Union has voted to let the British National Party (BNP) leader and a controversial historian speak at a free speech event on Monday.

Despite opposition, the Oxford Union Debating Society members voted by a margin of 2 to 1 to continue to extend an invite to the BNP's Nick Griffin.

David Irving, who was jailed for Holocaust denial, will also be invited.

The move was opposed by the Oxford Student Union and the university's Muslim and Jewish societies.

The Oxford Union Debating Society said it was important to give people of all views a platform.

Luke Tryl, president of the society, said: "The men were not being given a platform to extol their views, but were coming to talk about the limits for free speech.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/engla...ire/ 7110758.stm


Gravatarso you could proably save £ s by flying to NYC and buying luxury items and then flying back to london.


GravatarHere's Gershwin himself with the first recorded version of "Rhapsody in Blue".


GravatarTo save the world and the US anyone and everyone connected to Bushboy needs to be sanitized from further government service.

They should all be returned to the private sector or to jail. The latter being probably the most appropriate.


Gravatari guess he didn't pray hard enough


Gravatar{Back in Febraury of this year, Howard inserted himself into U.S. domestic politics by spouting this Bill Kristol-like smear:

If I was running al-Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008, and pray, as many times as possible, for a victory not only for [Barack] Obama, but also for the Democrats."


Enjoy your time in the wilderness, fuckface!


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

Can't hang... got lots to do, since I was a slug the past two days.

bbl
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Gravatarthanks Billy King. the sixers are horrendous. you traded Allen Iverson for . . . . .? first round picks and then you didnt tank the season? Thad Young? he doesnt even play.


They're awful, and King's awful contracts (Sam Dalembert!!!) keep them in salary cap hell in perpetuity.


GravatarI don't know, the global power elite is not a myth. I say that the movements to liberal leadership reflects that global joe is not amused at being fucked over.


GravatarHM Revenue and Customs has confirmed that a further six data discs have gone missing in transit between its offices in Preston and London.

The discs, which were reported missing on 30 October, contained recorded conversations between a member of staff and a customer making a complaint.

Police are still searching for two computer discs containing the details of 25m Child Benefit claimants.

The HMRC says evidence suggests the discs are still on their premises.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ics/ 7111056.stm


Gravatarso you could proably save £ s by flying to NYC and buying luxury items and then flying back to london.
euphronius

Black Friday sales in Seattle were boosted by busloads of Canadians from Vancouver taking advantage of the deals their strong dollar affords them.


GravatarWhen's Billy going into politics?


GravatarPope Benedict XVI has elevated 23 prelates from around the world to the position of cardinal



All as fucking right wing extremist as he is, I'm sure.


GravatarCan't wait to bid farewell to our asshole in chief.


GravatarI think Billy would be good in politics. he is very smart. he is just average as a basketball exec.

you had to sign Dalembert though. god damn it the NBA sucks.

salary caps suck.


GravatarA British Airways (BA) flight from Manchester to New York was cancelled after it was claimed cabin crew staff were "drunk" hours before take-off.

Police received an anonymous call at about 0415 on Friday, claiming staff were partying at a Manchester hotel. The plane was due to leave at 1000 GMT.

A BA spokesman said no allegations were made against the plane's two pilots.

Passengers were put onto alternative flights to the United States from London Heathrow.

The BA spokesman said: "We are investigating an anonymous allegation made against our cabin crew.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/engla...ter/ 7111059.stm


Gravatarceltics kick aaaaass


GravatarWhen's Billy going into politics?
Econ 102 | 11.24.07 - 12:34 pm | #


When are your testicles going to descend?


GravatarCan't wait to bid farewell to our asshole in chief.
Just Another Zero

It would be so much reassuring to us, the world and future generations if we impeached him rather than let him run the clock out.


GravatarWow. less than 600 votes between Howard and McKew in Labor - one precinct remains.

Hope there's no "Ohio" effect going on there.

And also - look at the 77.18% turnout. That stat speaks volumes about how comparatively disenfranchised the American electorate feels.


Gravatarthen flying back to london.
euphronius

That's exactly what they're doing. We have British neighbors who have a steady stream of visitors from England. They come, see their friends and go home with laptops, cameras and other items purchased at deep discounts here in the US.

Nice to know that the US has become like a third world "cheap trade zone."


GravatarCan't wait to bid farewell to our asshole in chief.
Just Another Zero | 11.24.07 - 12:35 pm | #



Just to say hello to a new asshole-in-chief. Yeah, i'm sure whoever it is won't be as bad as the Chimp, but the core institutions that enabled his lunacy will remain. Long live the rule of law!


GravatarThe other guy won partly because he got drunk and went to Scores in NYC to ogle topless dancers. Thus proving that politics is more advanced in other countries.
shawk


I don't care what they do in their spare time so long as it doesn't hurt anyone.


GravatarNice to know that the US has become like a third world "cheap trade zone."
Rudy

I thank banana Republicans for that.


Gravatar
And also - look at the 77.18% turnout. That stat speaks volumes about how comparatively disenfranchised the American electorate feels.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | 11.24.07 - 12:37 pm | #


well they do have mandatory voting there


Gravatarlook at the 77.18% turnout. That stat speaks volumes about how comparatively disenfranchised the American electorate feels.

Isn't voting mandatory in Australia?


Gravatarso a laptop made in china is sold in NYC to a buyer from London. great. well, at least the US gets a cut somewhere. itll be nice for us though when people realize they can go to China just as easily. (maybe 10 years away?)


GravatarAll as fucking right wing extremist as he is, I'm sure.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch


The whole notion of popeyness just seems like the silliest thing. God's personal PR guy, but it's an elected position. WTF sense does that make?


GravatarA small, uninhabited town in Texas has been sold on the internet auction site, eBay, to a buyer in Italy for a little over $3m (£1.45m).

The town, called Albert, is about 100km (62 miles) outside San Antonio and features a schoolhouse, a dancehall and a bar.

The town's current owner, Bobby Cave, said he was checking the identity of the buyer, to confirm the deal.

He added he had several other serious bids should the sale fall through.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/ 7110528.stm


GravatarIt would be so much reassuring to us, the world and future generations if we impeached him rather than let him run the clock out.
George Johnston



I would be even more reassured if his ass could be sent to the Hague.


GravatarI will vote for ABAR (Anyone But A Republican).

And that runs the gamut from local dog catcher to POTUS!


GravatarAnd what's worse: I just found out that Abigail Adams was a secret bond speculator.

Now it all makes perfect though ineffable sense!
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GravatarBilly's a Democrat? Thank goodness.

http://opensecrets.org/indivs/se...xtAll=Y& Order=N


Gravatarwell they do have mandatory voting there
Moonbootica, Heterodox
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they also have mandatory tithing to S&Ls


GravatarAll as fucking right wing extremist as he is, I'm sure.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch

The whole notion of popeyness just seems like the silliest thing. God's personal PR guy, but it's an elected position. WTF sense does that make?
MP


Nothing about the RC Church makes sense.

I was as young as 10 when I thought a lot of the shit I was being taught had no basis in reality.


GravatarThat stat speaks volumes about how comparatively disenfranchised the American electorate feels.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office


Disenfranchised? You think all those Americans who don't vote don't do it because they're embittered about the poor choices they get and have given up hope? They don't do it because they're too fucking lazy and/or stupid to give a shit about their part in setting the policies of the most powerful country on Earth. They just don't give a fuck. It is sickening.


GravatarIf it wasn't for her see-through black fishnet top, miniskirt and boots, Margaret, taking an afternoon coffee with her husband of 25 years, Rowan, could have been in any tea shoppe in her home town in Sussex, instead of at Erotica 07, the annual exhibition for fetishists, swingers and fantasists at Olympia in west London.

Eyes straying to the thigh boots and PVC outfits on the stall across the way from the coffee stand, Rowan said confidentially: "We like dressing up erotic-like at home, but it's not the sort of thing you could wear out in the street."

If you stray into west London this weekend you may see many such couples - portly middle-aged men in sensible windcheaters, anoraks and leather trousers, plump middle-aged women in very short skirts and very high boots, their bosoms cantilevered upwards at full elevation. They'll probably be holding hands, chastely.

Erotica, going now for 10 years, claims to be the world's largest lifestyle show "for freethinking adults who are comfortable with their sexuality".

Last year they had 82,000 visitors in three days, 60% of them women.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ gender...2216307,00.html


GravatarOT: I listen to Michael Tearson, a DJ who streams from various Phila area radio stations. I spent four years in Jersey thirty-seven years ago listening to him on WMMR. He has a show on Sirius also. What Michael does not know about rock and roll is not known, period.

Anyway, yesterday afternoon he played a version of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" by John Cale that apparently comes from Cale's live album "Fragments from a Rainy Season", a concert in Brussels, 1992. (You may have heard a slightly different version of this on various TV shows, including "Scrubs" and "West Wing"; Tim Buckley's version owes much to Cale's treatment.) The album is out of print and commands a king's ransom most places (used prices start at $34, and Amazon.uk wants 45€ for it!) Using a nifty Mac utility (RadioShift) I recorded the whole show, so I have the song; but I am quite interested in the album. Might have scored a copy at Reckless Records here in Chicago, but just in case...

So, does any Atriot (hiya, Steve!) know if some kind record company might reissue this?

Seems to me that some record company could make a bundle, and presumably Mr. Cale would be OK with it as well...


GravatarDisenfranchised? You think all those Americans who don't vote don't do it because they're embittered about the poor choices they get and have given up hope? They don't do it because they're too fucking lazy and/or stupid to give a shit about their part in setting the policies of the most powerful country on Earth. They just don't give a fuck. It is sickening.
blerb


You are SO correct.


Gravataryou had to sign Dalembert though. god damn it the NBA sucks.

salary caps suck.
euphronius | Homepage | 11.24.07 - 12:36 pm | #


True enough, I guess. The NBA shoots itself in the foot time and time again.


GravatarI say that the movements to liberal leadership reflects that global joe is not amused at being fucked over.
Nancy Willing


That about sums it up.

Gotta love George W. Bush's "Ownership Society" - life's a bitch, out of your modest house and into the ditch.


GravatarI'm reading Frank Rich's book, "The Greatest Story Ever Sold," and in addition to many worthwhile insights, Rich says that while he doesn't think Bushboy is stupid, he does believe that Bushboy thinks everyone else is stupid.

Which is why he does such blatantly self-serving and criminal things. The asshole thinks no one will realize that he's telling lies and screwing the vast majority with every act he makes.


Gravatarportly middle-aged men in sensible windcheaters, anoraks and leather trousers, plump middle-aged women in very short skirts and very high boots, their bosoms cantilevered upwards at full elevation.

Sounds like Eschaton '08!


Gravatarwell they do have mandatory voting there
Moonbootica, Heterodox


I kinda like that idea. My libertarian streak itches whenever I say that...


Gravatara lot of people dont vote because they are working or they are not informed of there even being a vote. or they are in a hospital, or an emrgency or never got the absentee ballot fogured out or they were turned away from the polls.


Gravatar itll be nice for us though when people realize they can go to China just as easily. (maybe 10 years away?)

Our nation's beloved trendsetters have already figured it out


GravatarAll those foreign shoppers and rising prices on foreign goods are just another "benefit" of having had Bushboy in the WH for the past 7 years!

News had a retailer just giddy over the cheap dollar and the influx of foreign shoppers. Idiot doesn't realize that low dollar means more expensive foreign goods for stocking the shelves, meaning prices have to go up, meaning domestic people can't afford as much...


GravatarI would be even more reassured if his ass could be sent to the Hague.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch

Funny you should mention that. I think the most polarizing issue in next year's election will be whether we will co-operate with international investigations of the Bush junta for war crimes should they drop the reins of power.


GravatarI listen to Michael Tearson, a DJ who streams from various Phila area radio stations. I spent four years in Jersey thirty-seven years ago listening to him on WMMR. He has a show on Sirius also. What Michael does not know about rock and roll is not known, period.
David Derbes


That guy IS a walking encylopedia.


GravatarComment by Econ 102 blocked

This will NEVER get old!


GravatarTwo of the bubbleheaded best, Timmeh and Howie Kurtz, on Timmeh's program. Can you stand the quality of discourse?


Gravataryou had to sign Dalembert though. god damn it the NBA sucks.

salary caps suck.
euphronius


Look at the bright side: He has a nifty operator, the d'Alembertian.


GravatarDavid Derbes -

Friend of mine is a MAJOR Cale fan - I could prolly get him to burn you a copy...


Gravatarit took the celtics awhile to get a team but they finally did it. salary caps are good. makes them wheel and deal.


Gravatar...while he doesn't think Bushboy is stupid, he does believe that Bushboy thinks everyone else is stupid.

If Junior doesn't have NPD, it's a near miss.


Gravatarwhats funny is had they cetics won the lottery they whould have drafted Oden and probably be 3-7 right now. huh.


GravatarBushboy thinks everyone else is stupid.




The reason for that perpetual smirk.

The one I would LOVE to slap off his stupid face.


GravatarYou think all those Americans who don't vote don't do it because they're embittered about the poor choices they get and have given up hope? They don't do it because they're too fucking lazy and/or stupid to give a shit about their part in setting the policies of the most powerful country on Earth. They just don't give a fuck.

What's the basis for that opinion, anecdote?


GravatarThey don't do it because they're too fucking lazy and/or stupid to give a shit about their part in setting the policies of the most powerful country on Earth. They just don't give a fuck. It is sickening.

Go hang out at a mall for an hour or so.

Scary stuff, kids!


GravatarMost people don't vote due to apathy, which the pukes fuel (if one can "fuel" apathy) by lowering and coarsening the level of discourse.


GravatarFriend of mine is a MAJOR Cale fan - I could prolly get him to burn you a copy...
bill buckner


Hi, Bill.

Maybe; if Reckless has already sold the copy they had advertised, I may take you up on it.

Many thanks. I'll get back to you.


Gravatarthat's true. but they made some damned good lemonade


GravatarTwo of the bubbleheaded best, Timmeh and Howie Kurtz, on Timmeh's program. Can you stand the quality of discourse?
JT


I hereby propose we spell that "dyscourse" from now on...


GravatarThe media mogul Rupert Murdoch has said he wants Sky News to become more like his rightwing US network Fox News, and revealed the extent of his editorial grip on his British newspapers to a House of Lords committee.

The communications committee, chaired by Lord Fowler, toured the US in September to meet media executives, regulators and consumer groups as part of an inquiry into media ownership. Their conversations were made public yesterday in detailed minutes.

Murdoch said he wanted Sky News, which has confounded cynics by maturing into a well-funded and award-winning 24-hour news operation, to be more like Fox News to make it "a proper alternative to the BBC".

Due to the lack of impartiality laws in the US, Fox News became successful as a rightwing counterpoint to the perceived leftwing leanings of its rivals.

Murdoch said Sky may become more like Fox, even if there was no overhaul of news impartiality laws by Ofcom, by copying its presentational style. He complained that changes had not been made because "nobody at Sky listens to me". The BSkyB chief executive is his son James.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/ ...skyb.television


Gravatar'I challenge anyone to try to avoid feelings of glee over that result'

I'm not doing a good job not being gleeful. heeheeheehee gloat gloat glee glee glee


GravatarScary stuff, kids!
dave™© | Homepage | 11.24.07 - 12:46 pm | #

The A&F shopping bags - they come RIGHT AT YOU!


Gravatarif 55% people vote at a major election, id say the remaining is 10% paperwork errors, 10% apathy, 10% vote suppression, 10% cant get out of work and 5% emegencies.


GravatarBelatedly I saw Michael Moore's movie, "Sicko," over the weekend.

His interview with former British m.p. named Benn was most interesting. Benn, a socialist, who has stood for many unpopular causes in England said that when people don't vote or vote against their interest, it's because they are either in fear ore convinced that their vote is irrelevent.

Which is what the Goopers do in every election cycle. They bring up their bogey-man-du-jour (Commies, terrists, etc.) and then they try to block voters who aren't likely to vote for them. Just like the little despots that they are.


Gravatarthey lost some great young players tho.


GravatarThey don't do it because they're too fucking lazy and/or stupid to give a shit about their part in setting the policies of the most powerful country on Earth. They just don't give a fuck. It is sickening.
blerb


The media coverage of Thanksgiving has been very telling about where we are as a nation. After gorging on rich food (it was reported that people now eat an average of 4,500 calories and 600 grams of fat during Thanksgiving dinner), people are lining up on the streets in the middle of the night to compete for the "right" to gorge themselves on cheap, Chinese-made junk they're probably buying on credit cards with a 20+ percent interest rate.

It's just about raw consumption, it's almost like a drug people are trying to medicate themselves with.


GravatarFunny you should mention that. I think the most polarizing issue in next year's election will be whether we will co-operate with international investigations of the Bush junta for war crimes should they drop the reins of power.
George Johnston | Homepage | 11.24.07 - 12:43 pm | #


If you think a presidential nominee of either party would ever support an international investigation of a current or former president for war crimes, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale that you might be interested in. It's never gonna happen. It should happen, of course, but it will.


GravatarGo hang out at a mall for an hour or so.
Scary stuff, kids!

You're so much better than people who shop at malls.


Gravatarthis is a nice smackdown of howard from Rudd:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...-obama-remarks/


GravatarHis interview with former British m.p. named Benn was most interesting. Benn, a socialist, who has stood for many unpopular causes

Sir Anthony (Tony) Wedgwood Benn.

Disparaged by the Daily Telegraph, aka Torygraph, as Wedgie Benn. Related to the china family.


GravatarThis year's Celtics are like the 2002 T-Wolves w/ Garnett, Sprewell, and Cassel.

They'll lose in the Eastern Conference finals to Cleveland.


GravatarRich says that while he doesn't think Bushboy is stupid, he does believe that Bushboy thinks everyone else is stupid.
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reminds me of Bush I thinking that people should reset their withholdings so that the government doesn't hold their cash til April. To me that reflected the disconnect between haves and have less: when I and my fellow working stiffs get that check it is the only way I have to save for the big ticket items and the down payments, etc. People who live pay to pay are not at all understood by the jet set in fundamental ways like "Ownership Society = Good".


GravatarOkay, I have to take a break. So... here I am! Rock you like some crack cocaine!
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GravatarMurdoch, 76, recently added the Wall Street Journal to an empire that includes 20th Century Fox, the Times, the Sun, a stake in BSkyB, MySpace and interests in South America, Asia and Australia.

Murdoch restated his antipathy towards British legislators and regulators, saying the UK was "anti-success" and this had prevented him from expanding his media empire further. They kept investigating his purchases on the grounds of plurality, he said, but he had invested in plurality by keeping the Times afloat and putting 200 channels on the air through Sky.

He claimed the government's concern about cross-media ownership was "10 years out of date" given the proliferation of media outlets, and said concern over BSkyB's purchase of a 17.9% stake in rival ITV stemmed from "paranoia".

Next month John Hutton, secretary of state for business, enterprise and regulatory reform, will receive the Competition Commission's final verdict on the matter and decide what action to take.

In the minutes, Murdoch distinguished between the Times and the Sunday Times, in which he said he did not interfere in editorial matters, and the Sun and the News of the World, where he said he acted like "a traditional proprietor". "He exercises editorial control on major issues - like which party to back in a general election or policy on Europe," said the minutes.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/ ...skyb.television


Gravatarpeople are lining up on the streets in the middle of the night to compete for the "right" to gorge themselves on cheap, Chinese-made junk

What percentage of the adult U.S. population went shopping yesterday?


GravatarI didn't see that many crazed people crowding the stores yesterday in the annual shopping frenzy. Except for Aldi's where they bought up all the bread because it looks like the price of bread is going through the roof. And the price of their spaghetti jumped 20 cents in less than a week. I guess wheat is the next thing being priced out of people's reach.


GravatarGlen: "There's a tendency in the U.S. to view the elections in other countries based on the self-centered perspective that the result is always some sort of referendum on the U.S"

Well the defeats of Berlusconi and Aznar were referendums on Bush.


Gravatarit took the celtics awhile to get a team but they finally did it.

Haven't been to The Garden in years, but a friend says that the faithful are now the loudest that they've been since the Bird era...


GravatarI went to Sahib's for ciggies, and to Sonic, for breakfast. That's all the shopping I did, yesterdiddy.
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GravatarDissipate-consume-more-waste-squander-buy-upgrade shirt.
http://shirt.woot.com/
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GravatarIt's just about raw consumption, it's almost like a drug people are trying to medicate themselves with.
Stinky | 11.24.07 - 12:48 pm | #

To be fair, there's is a the steroid enraged sports extravaganza watching interlude.


GravatarComment by Milton Arbogast blocked

Buh-bye, motherfucker!


Gravatar"people are lining up on the streets in the middle of the night to compete for the "right" to gorge themselves on cheap, Chinese-made junk"


I don't need OR want anything THAT badly.


GravatarI went to Sahib's for ciggies, and to Sonic, for breakfast.

I'd hate to be your arteries...


Gravatarnah. allen is steady, garnett has heart, pierce just needed some help. not to mention rondo and perk and posey! yeeaaaaaaahhhhh(strangled dean cry)


Gravatar.10% apathy, 10% vote suppression, 10% cant get out of work and 5% emegencies.
euphronius


Those estimates seem wildly inaccurate to me. What country do you live in?


GravatarStinky: It's just about raw consumption, it's almost like a drug people are trying to medicate themselves with.

I whizzed by a show on one of the cable channels where some guy was trying to get a couple on a budget. They were bringing in $5800/mo., and spending $11,000/mo.

The wife could not be happy without filling her new, mortgaged truck with clothes, every day... most of which were in their garage, with the tags still on them.

I can't figure this out.
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GravatarSocial Security taxes should be increased to at least the $200,000 of income/year level.

Energy independence with a government sponsored and promoted use of renewable fuels also needs to be instituted asap.

Bushboy's tax cuts for the rich should be repealed or allowed to expire and tax cheats (see those making $200,000/year above), should be pursued by the IRS.

All of the above would help the elderly and the middleclass but none of it will happen until the depraved moron in the WH is removed.


GravatarThe other guy won partly because he got drunk and went to Scores in NYC to ogle topless dancers. Thus proving that politics is more advanced in other countries.

Australia also had an openly-atheist PM in the 1980s. They don't have the tiresome religious right Police State Xtian lobby and their media sycophants probing every candidate's personal life and religious views and screaming demands for conformity with their sky-daddy superstitions. I can't imagine an openly-atheist US president in my lifetime.

Iraq was a major issue in the election but not considered the largest one. Only one or two Aussies have died there over several years so it was a symbolic issue of whether they should be supporting Cheney's oil theft.


Gravatarif the Cetics could get Miller from the 6ers, they would fly tothe Finals.


GravatarBought something for my daughter on line, in the electronics department, but keeping it secret for another month. That was it for me consumption-wise yesterday.


Gravatardave™©: I'd hate to be your arteries...

I'm suicidal. Hoping to die before Vaporization Day.
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GravatarSocial Security taxes should be increased to at least the $200,000 of income/year level.

Make it $250k, with NO FDIC on the first $50k of income.

I'd just as soon there were no cap, period, but I'll "compromise."


GravatarSo, does any Atriot (hiya, Steve!) know if some kind record company might reissue this?

Seems to me that some record company could make a bundle, and presumably Mr. Cale would be OK with it as well...
David Derbes | 11.24.07 - 12:41 pm |


I'm pretty sure Cale's version got most famous because it underscores a key scene in the first SHREK.

Don't know if the live album is gonna be reissued though...

Cale's great, of course. "Paris 1919" is one of my all time faves...


Gravatar10% apathy, 10% vote suppression, 10% cant get out of work and 5% emegencies.
euphronius

Those estimates seem wildly inaccurate to me. What country do you live in?
blerb | 11.24.07 - 12:54 pm | #
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Anecdotia.


Gravatarthe mall was ok. i got some cheap pillows. missed the tv. oh well.


GravatarI'm suicidal. Hoping to die before Vaporization Day.

Hey, I should talk!

But seriously - give up the coffin nails.


Gravatarif 55% people vote at a major election, id say the remaining is 10% paperwork errors, 10% apathy, 10% vote suppression, 10% cant get out of work and 5% emegencies.
euphronius

Living in one of the few states that allows registration at the polls, I'm sickened by the rigors of registration elsewhere - how long before the election you must submit, how you may or may not get confirmation of your eligibility, etc.

Plenty of folks don't feel the cost of their effort to register is worth their incremental value of one vote. And the system is getting rigged by states - especially ones where minorities can make a huge difference - to make the hoops to jump through almost as regressive as poll taxes were.


GravatarThey don't do it because they're too fucking lazy and/or stupid to give a shit about their part in setting the policies of the most powerful country on Earth. They just don't give a fuck. It is sickening.

I'm always troubled by these kind of comments. How can we be democrats (note the small "d") if we hold a large segment of the population in contempt. There are lots of reasons people don't vote -- and part of it is because it serves the purpose of the two corporate party system. Of the two choices presented, I strongly prefer the Democratic Party, but I want it to be more democratic. But people are struggling with their own lives and not everyone is a political junky like the fine folks here tend to be. How many people have bought into the "there isn't a dimes worth of difference" argument or the "one vote more or less doesn't really make a difference" argument? Plus Repukes have spent at least 30 years trying to drive down the Democratic vote and drive a wedge between the Dems and their formerly strong blue-collar supporters. So damn me as a concern troll, but expressing contempt for about 50% of the potential electorate is not the way to win friends and influence people.


GravatarNo way was I going to do any shopping yesterday. The media-manipulated masses are asses.


GravatarThe wife could not be happy without filling her new, mortgaged truck with clothes, every day... most of which were in their garage, with the tags still on them.

I can't figure this out.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


There's some heavy addiction problems there.

She's addicted to shopping.


GravatarCale's great, of course. "Paris 1919" is one of my all time faves...
steve simels


Which has been reissued. Well, Steve, if you can lean on your buddies at Rhino and elsewhere, they can count on me for at least a few copies...

Thanks!


GravatarThose estimates seem wildly inaccurate to me.

What is the source of your data?


GravatarI can't believe how nastily envious I was of my basketball loving friend I visited out in Portand OR last July. It was typical Boston style "hate others who are doing well" mentality at the time. I feel so sorry for them now.


Gravatar"Make it $250k, with NO FDIC on the first $50k of income."

and tax every fucking cent of capital gains...


GravatarI have a cat, btw.
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Gravatari agree with toon.


Gravataranyway, i think 60-65% turnout is "good enough" and we are pretty close to that. get rid of republican voter suppression and make voting a holiday and we'd hit it easy. Aust. has mandatory voting and only hits the mid 70s.


GravatarI can't figure this out.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Go to medical school, get you a PhD in one of the mind mechanic fields. You will then understand. I can save you the money, though; She's a pathological shopaholic.


GravatarI whizzed by a show on one of the cable channels where some guy was trying to get a couple on a budget. They were bringing in $5800/mo., and spending $11,000/mo.

The wife could not be happy without filling her new, mortgaged truck with clothes, every day... most of which were in their garage, with the tags still on them.

I can't figure this out.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


That's that "Big Spender" show. I've watched that before. It's pretty much always the same story...for a lot of these people it really is an illness/addiction. Plus a healthy dose of having the head up the ass and refusing to see reality.


GravatarI guess wheat is the next thing being priced out of people's reach.
sekmet

Up limit twice this week at the Chicago Board futures exchange.


GravatarI don't think any of the candidates will embrace it. Anyone who suggests we co-operate with international investigations of war crimes will be pilloried as a traitor.


Gravatari have an idea. dont tax wage at all. tax wealth and wealth accumulation.

i know.


GravatarWhat percentage of the adult U.S. population went shopping yesterday?
Milton Arbogast


What percentage of yesterday's media coverage at the local and national levels was devoted to stories on "Black Friday" complete with images of throngs of people running into a mall as soon as the doors were opened in the middle of the night?

Nah, you're right, Trollie. No one gives a shit about Black Friday and Christmas shopping, it's all a figment of everyone's imagination.


Gravatarthe only team i can't stand is lakers. but the celts whooped them last night so all is well.


GravatarI'll be happy on Wednesday morning November 5, when the I know the rethug candidate for president is defeated.
Good for Australia, though.


GravatarI mean, this woman was trying to convince her husband to sell their home so that she could continue the everyday shopping... as if that would fix the problem!
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Gravatar
What percentage of the adult U.S. population went shopping yesterday?
Milton Arbogast | 11.24.07 - 12:51 pm | #


More important, what percentage of the adult U.S. population understands that for satiny sheen and sheer volcanic power, nothing, but nada, comes close to my groinal area?.


GravatarWe've got A Christmas Story running non-stop. It never gets old.


GravatarAus has mandatory voting. Technically there's a $100 fine for not showing up at the polls but it is rarely prosecuted.

Voting also takes place on a Saturday. Not sure if that would help with turnout in the US -- no issues with getting away from work for most people, but it's the weekend so probably there are more people who would skip it out of apathy and not wanting to interrupt their leisure time.


Gravatar[slides Diet Rite down the barrail to Terry the C] hey, it's all I got...


GravatarIt's another brick in the wall, to misuse Pink Floyd for a moment. But yes, Howard was becoming more and more demonstrably an asshole to all Australians except his base, and I think finally the base didn't much care for him either.


Gravatar"Paris 1919" is one of my all time faves...

There's a new-ish re-issue of that with a 2nd disc of outtakes and ephemera. Quite lovely...


GravatarWhich has been reissued. Well, Steve, if you can lean on your buddies at Rhino and elsewhere, they can count on me for at least a few copies...

Thanks!
David Derbes | 11.24.07 - 12:57 pm | #


That reissue of "Paris" is very cool by the way. It was nice to finally learn that the guitarist was Lowell George.

I'll drop a hint to them....


GravatarHGTV and A & E does those 'how to stage your house' to sell shows. And often the main thing they have to do is declutter the places because they are jammed full of junk. One was especially funny. This late 40ish woman who still dressed like a teenager was having trouble selling her house because it was full of knickknacks and little frilly things. And when the professional stager tried to get her to pack some of the stuff away, she would whine that she needed all this crap around to 'be happy'.


Gravatar How can we be democrats (note the small "d") if we hold a large segment of the population in contempt.

I do not regard them with contempt. I regard them with anger and frustration. The republicans who manipulate people into voting against their own manifest personal interest by playing on their basest motivations of fear and bigotry are the ones who hold the people in contempt. We as progressives will never succeed in changing anything unless we find a way to get these people off their asses and excercising their franchise in a meaningful, informed way. Tnat is the entire battle, and I get ever so tired of hearing people whining helplessly about insurmountable republican conspiracies to disenfranchise everyone.


GravatarSo damn me as a concern troll, but expressing contempt for about 50% of the potential electorate is not the way to win friends and influence people.

Beyond that, it's just based in ignorance.


GravatarThey still make Diet Rite?


GravatarIn the 5am darkness outside a bus depot in southern Paris the diehard 20-man picket-line stood warming their hands by a makeshift fire, contemplating the future of France.

"We're the human stones ready to be lobbed at the government. We're the last line of resistance to protect France from neo-liberalism, capitalism and the end of society," said Herve Berthomé, a bus driver, whose father used to reminisce about striking in May 1968.

Berthomé, 43, would normally be driving the 84 bus from the Pantheon through Paris's Left Bank, humming his favourite Genesis songs to himself. But instead he and a handful of fellow drivers - the grassroots of the powerful, communist-linked CGT union - were holding their ground in a transport strike that has gridlocked France and proved the defining moment of Nicolas Sarkozy's promised new era.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ france...2216336,00.html


Gravataraustralia drying up got him bounced. it is a slo-mo disaster.


Gravatarsekmet: And when the professional stager tried to get her to pack some of the stuff away, she would whine that she needed all this crap around to 'be happy'.

Sometimes, I think I'd trade my problems for someone else's... but not these people.
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Gravatari have an idea. dont tax wage at all. tax wealth and wealth accumulation.

i know.
euphronius

Ever notice that the plans to tax the rich are called class warfare and the plans to tax working Americans and give them nothing in return are called sound fiscal policy?


GravatarI mean, this woman was trying to convince her husband to sell their home so that she could continue the everyday shopping... as if that would fix the problem!
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Maybe the husband should keep the home and kick her to the curb.


GravatarIf they sold their house so she could keep on shopping, where would they live and where would they keep the stuff she was buying?


GravatarFDR instituted a 90% marginal tax rate on what was considered "excessive compensation" or extremely high income.

JFK lowered that rate to 70% and then Raygun came in and dropped it to 29%.

Clinton raised the top rate to 39% (and generated surpluses) and Bushboy has dropped it back to 33% (and generated record deficits).

Raygun's tax cuts and outrageous "defense" spending led to the first $100 billion plus deficits.

Bushboy has been the all-time debt producer and will leave the federal goverment trillions more $$$ in debt than it was when he came in.


Gravatari agree with toon.
wikipedia |
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moi aussi

but to resolve this problem...focus on reentry of civics into kids education?


GravatarThat reissue of "Paris" is very cool by the way. It was nice to finally learn that the guitarist was Lowell George.

I'll drop a hint to them....
Milton Arbogast


*mwhah*!

Thanks!


GravatarAutralia is drying up? Does that mean prohibition? G-d save them.


GravatarEver notice that the plans to tax the rich are called class warfare and the plans to tax working Americans and give them nothing in return are called sound fiscal policy?
George Johnston | Homepage | 11.24.07 - 1:03 pm | #
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why yes, i had noticed that.
taxing wages makes no sense to me. at all.


GravatarComment by Milton Arbogast blocked

Buh-bye, motherfucker!
dave™©



Yeah, really....what an asshole.


GravatarZap Rowsdower: They still make Diet Rite?

Royal Crown is still big in this part of the country. I like their stuff better than the Big Two, but I rarely have any of it, since I drink very little soda... and that usually comes from a machine at work, which is Coke-only.
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GravatarWhat happened to Rangel's tax the hedgers? Rangel also made a lot of draft talk and then faded the issue.


Gravatarpeople will wise up when it gets bad enough. until then you might as well forget it.


GravatarOh, that last Milton Arbogast post about John Cale was me.

I regret the error, but not the fact that the Arbogast troll is an idiot.


Gravatari mean 100% of wages are SPENT or INVESTED - both of those activites are taxes (except for retirement investing - which already had generous tax breaks).


GravatarThe middleclass and the poor have been getting slaughtered by the rich in the "class warfare" that has been going on in the US with a vengeance, ever since Raygun took office.

They don't know it though because the MSM is owned and operated by the rich for the rich and most of the Talking Heads are rich or aspire to be rich.

Ignorance isn't bliss, it's murder.


GravatarThey're running out of fresh water. Most of the major cities are in critical water supply situations after a decade of drought.

At least in Australia no state Premier is stupid enough to call a prayer meeting to fix it. They'd be torn limb from limb and dropped in the ocean.


Gravataryou know-the drought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h? v=Edlsy8r2FXo


Gravatarsekmet: If they sold their house so she could keep on shopping, where would they live and where would they keep the stuff she was buying?

I'm absolutely certain she hadn't thought that far ahead. She was just looking for another fix. Oddly, her husband didn't (at least on-screen) articulate this obvious logical conundrum to her.
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GravatarI'll take a Triple Cola any time!


Gravatarpeople will wise up when it gets bad enough. until then you might as well forget it.
wikipedia | 11.24.07 - 1:05 pm | #

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yup.
sad but true. if the democrats were smart, they'd position themselves to be who people turn to when it gets that bad. but they are not that smart. or they are coopted and bought out.


GravatarYes, most the time the real entertainment are these people still stuck in childhood or adolescence that the stagers have to deal with. One show had this woman who collected dolls and she had dolls everywhere....all with those staring eyes and blank faces. The stager told her she had to pack them up because they gave potential home-buyers the willies. And then after they successfully cleared them away, the woman made her husband take the house off the market and bring the dolls back.


GravatarWhat happened to Rangel's tax the hedgers?

Wall Street patronage.

that last Milton Arbogast post about John Cale was me

You stole my name? Don't people get banned for doing that?


Gravatarwhy yes, i had noticed that.
taxing wages makes no sense to me. at all.
euphronius
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it is very irksome that this subject is mere TALK since forever and no action....ARGUUUUE....grrrrrrrrrrr.


GravatarThink I'll have some lunch.

Back in a bit..


GravatarI do not regard them with contempt. I regard them with anger and frustration.

they're too fucking lazy and/or stupid to give a shit

It may be anger and frustration, but it's expressed as contempt.


GravatarI gets me Firefox, I'm gonna set up the killfile to reject all comments containing the word "killfile"...

Yeah, yeah, meta-meta-meta...


GravatarAuthorities in the Brazilian Amazon came under fire this week after reports that a 16-year-old girl had been repeatedly raped and tortured while being held in a prison cell with at least 20 men.

According to reports in the Brazilian press, the teenager was arrested last month after being caught stealing in Abaetetuba, a town on the outskirts of Belem, the capital of the Amazon state Para.

She reportedly spent 26 days in a cell at the local police station, although no formal charges were brought. This week the girl emerged from custody covered in bruises and cigarette burns.

The state governor, Ana Julia Carepa, ordered an inquiry following claims the teenager was locked up with the male prisoners for at least a month and was forced to have sex in exchange for food.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ brazil...2216361,00.html


Gravatarit is very irksome that this subject is mere TALK since forever and no action....ARGUUUUE....grrrrrrrrrrr.
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 11.24.07 - 1:07 pm | #

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what would you have me do? go on strike? id get fired.


GravatarWords of wisdom from Howie Kurtz: The blogs love to criticize the MSM. But without us, there would be nothing but a spitball fight.

Stupid much?


GravatarZOMG!

I'm alone in a house full of women buying jewelry.


GravatarOne show had this woman who collected dolls and she had dolls everywhere....all with those staring eyes and blank faces. The stager told her she had to pack them up because they gave potential home-buyers the willies.


I like porcelain dolls. I think they're pretty.

But I can understand how some people would be freaked out....


GravatarThe laborious work starts well before dawn. Frigid temperatures greet pickers like Ebrahim Baratnejad as they head for the fields to set about the crocuses that yield up one of the most precious ingredients of the eastern kitchen.

But despite the early starts, the eight-hour shifts in the open fields and the fiddly work extracting saffron stigmas from the flowers, Baratnejad is a picture of contentment. He's been doing this kind of work for a pittance since he was 12. And now, suddenly, it has started to pay a whole lot better.

Article continues
In fact, Baratnejad has never had it so good. This year his daily income has doubled to around £1.54 and he has no doubt about who to thank - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president.

"I am better off and it's all since the change of government. Mr Ahmadinejad has been very good for me," Baratnejad enthuses, following a move by the Iranian president to increase at a stroke the market price of saffron.

"He has also helped us with other things, such as giving loans, for example to buy dairy cows and establish gardens for growing crops," he adds.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/ s...2216373,00.html


GravatarYeah, yeah, meta-meta-meta...


Gravatarwhat would you have me do? go on strike? id get fired.
euphronius
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not directed at you, dear

this subject is one that my tongue aches from yapping


GravatarThe problem with politics in America and many other places is that the rich and their lobbyists can buy the government for pennies on the dollar.

That is why America doesn't have a sensible healthcare system that covers everyone and doesn't cost $7000/year/person. Big Pharma, the AMA and the Health Insurance "industries" bought the Gooper Congress and had Bushboy in their back pocket since he was born.

Get public funding of elections and watch the power of democracy actually flow to the people!


GravatarShe even had dolls in the kitchen and dining room. You would have to eat facing a whole row of dolls staring at you.


Gravatar
I'm alone in a house full of women buying jewelry.


(Air-freights Zap a movie with lots of explosions... )


Gravataryup.
sad but true. if the democrats were smart, they'd position themselves to be who people turn to when it gets that bad. but they are not that smart. or they are coopted and bought out.
euphronius

Edwards has been that voice for years - but try and get the DNC to bite the corporate hands that fellate...er, feed them.


GravatarThe middleclass and the poor have been getting slaughtered by the rich in the "class warfare" that has been going on in the US since it's founding.

They don't know it though because the MSM is owned and operated by the rich for the rich and most of the Talking Heads are rich or aspire to be rich.

Ignorance isn't bliss, it's murder.
Rudy | Homepage | 11.24.07 - 1:06 pm | #


fyt......


GravatarEver notice that the plans to tax the rich are called class warfare and the plans to tax working Americans and give them nothing in return are called sound fiscal policy?
George Johnston


Why yes, yes I have.

There was an old joke about an African slave who was about to win his freedom from the Romans, after one last gladiatorial fight. Just before he enters the arena, he is jumped by six men, tied up, and thrown into the arena to be eaten alive by a lion. Somehow, the poor guy manages to bite hard on the lion's tale, and the great cat scampers away. Some yahoo in the Colosseum yells: Fight fair, damn you!

That's how I think about "class warfare". The powerful pound on the poor, and if someone manages to defend himself even a little, he's guilty of class warfare.


GravatarThe middleclass and the poor have been getting slaughtered by the rich in the "class warfare" that has been going on in the US with a vengeance, ever since Raygun took office.

Ever since before Reagan, even.


GravatarAir-freights Zap a movie with lots of explosions...

Heh.



Gravatar
Milton Arbogast


Shouldn't that name be Norman Bates? You picked the wrong Psycho character.


GravatarIt may be anger and frustration, but it's expressed as contempt.
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal


You explain to me what the problem is then, and how to fix it, or else wag your finger somewhere else, K?


GravatarI wouldn't get too excited. Those waltzing matilda twenty sheep to a man fleece loving islanders that think their a continent assholes can just dink this. They aren't going to change, no matter who the prime minister is, you know.


GravatarZOMG!

I'm alone in a house full of women buying jewelry.
Zap Rowsdower

Go take a walk down the hill to the Holiday station and get a hot chocolate.


GravatarGotta' go work off that Thanksgiving fat. Cyall anon...


GravatarGet public funding of elections and watch the power of democracy actually flow to the people!

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AGREED


GravatarWould it be a safe bet that "Jemaine"
knows nothing about Australia and Australians besides his snide little stereotypes?

That he's never been out of his trailer park, much less out of the US of A?


Gravatarbye for now moonbats


GravatarDo you mean sales taxes could go down if we started taxing stock market transactions?


GravatarThe powerful pound on the poor, and if someone manages to defend himself even a little, he's guilty of class warfare.

Yes, and any union-management issues that the media bothers to report are positioned as demands made by the union and offers made by management.


GravatarZOMG!

I'm alone in a house full of women buying jewelry.
Zap Rowsdower


You'll be OK till the whiskey runs out...


GravatarI bought a loaf of bread and a quart of milk yerterday.


GravatarI wouldn't get too excited. Those waltzing matilda twenty sheep to a man fleece loving islanders that think their a continent assholes can just dink this. They aren't going to change, no matter who the prime minister is, you know.
Jemaine | 11.24.07 - 1:12 pm | #


WTF?


Gravatar'I bought a loaf of bread and a quart of milk yerterday.'

And you still have some money left? Wow!


GravatarWho among us doesn't feel a shiver of vicarious delight at seeing a major co-dependent promoter of the Coalition of the Wilting withering and finally being brutally lopped down?

It doesn't have any immediate, direct consequences for our own criminal imperialist gang in power, but maybe it'll be one of those fractal phenomena, like a leaf falling in Venezuela eventually turning into an Atlantic hurricane.

Is apocryphal worse than anecdotal?


GravatarShe even had dolls in the kitchen and dining room. You would have to eat facing a whole row of dolls staring at you.
sekmet


They don't belong in the kitchen.

I have a friend who has a spare room in her house....the dolls are all in there.


GravatarGo take a walk down the hill to the liquor store and get a bottle of hooch.

If you say so, Roadie!


GravatarWTF?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 11.24.07 - 1:15 pm | #

Ditto.


Gravatarlook at those cracks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h? v=qxokIuJvwBM


GravatarGet public funding of elections and watch the power of democracy actually flow to the people!


In my heart I believe that measure would solve at least half of the problem, because it would stem the torrential flow of bullshit voters are faced with now. The other half wll have to come from people learning how to take their responsibility towards the democratic process seriously.


Gravatarsales taxes are fine. in fact, that is the most legit tax to me. yes it is regressive in a way, and there can be waivers on food and clothing and education books, sure. but, im my head at least, sales tax is exactly where tax should be as it is the state which is making the sales possible. als taxes wealth is also a pure tax. the only reason the owner of the wealth enjoys it at all is becaus of hte state's protection and because suckers like you an me work for him and buy his shit.

wage taxes . . . i mean, this is what people are doing with their lives. a wage tax is a tax on someones LIFE. it is absurd and bizare.


GravatarGo take a walk down the hill to the liquor store and get a bottle of hooch.

If you say so, Roadie!
Zap Rowsdower

We understand each other's code!

Swordfish!


Gravatarsheets


GravatarWell, my house is full of knickknacks (though not of the large-eyed Hallmark waif variety) but it's very comfortable. I make myself go through at least one drawer or closet each month and sort out what goes, for sale or donation or re-gifting, what needs to go somewhere else in the house, etc. If I find something in a drawer that I haven't even looked at or thought about in a year or two, it goes. And the not buying anything you can't live without, or anything that's not exactly what you wanted, really helps keep most junk from getting into the house in the first place. The knickknacks are mostly stuff people have given me that I just like to be able to look at...wind-up toys, figurines, etc. and I do like having those around, but they all have their own shelf space so they're not all over the place. And I even edit those down after a while and recycle them in gifting or gluing.


GravatarSwordfish!

Hah!

I suppose that Trailer Trash will be holding their annual "Have A Trashy Little Christmas" show at Lee's in a few weeks.

Fun stuff.


Gravatar>i>She even had dolls in the kitchen and dining room. You would have to eat facing a whole row of dolls staring at you.
sekmet


They don't belong in the kitchen.

I have a friend who has a spare room in her house....the dolls are all in there.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch | Homepage | 11.24.07 - 1:16 pm |

That's what my sister's mother-in-law does-she collects the antique dolls and they're in a spare bedroom.

Had a co-worker whose husband collected clocks-all sorts of clocks. All over the house. There were little paths between the clocks.

That's some scary addiction.

I can get slightly obsessive, but I've never been that bad.


GravatarDo you mean sales taxes could go down if we started taxing stock market transactions?

A stamp tax on financial transactions would be very interesting now, with the prevalence of short-trading hedge funds. Congress would never go for it.


Gravatar'I bought a loaf of bread and a quart of milk yerterday.'

"And you still have some money left? Wow!"

I used plastic.


GravatarAuthorities in the Brazilian Amazon came under fire this week after reports that a 16-year-old girl had been repeatedly raped and tortured while being held in a prison cell with at least 20 men.
_________________________________________

If she'd been imprisoned in Amerika, she would have been able to rely on several years of abstinence training and emerged unscathed and totally revirginizable, like Elizabeth Smart.


GravatarCollecting stuff is fine but this woman obviouslly had problems that were manifested in these dolls. And they were those creepy realistic dolls not the antique types.


GravatarIf she'd been imprisoned in Amerika, she would have been able to rely on several years of abstinence training and emerged unscathed and totally revirginizable, like Elizabeth Smart.
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According to Rush, Elizabeth ENJOYED what happened to her.


(sick fuck)


GravatarThey still make Diet Rite?
Zap Rowsdower


Yup. Several flavors now, too. No caffein, no aspartame. I like it better than Big C or Big P, but taste is definitely a variable-mileage thing...


GravatarWTF?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 11.24.07 - 1:15 pm | #

Ditto.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


"Jemaine" is another mouthbreather engaging in wishful thinking.


Gravatarfor once, Bathhouse Greenwald might have a real point.


GravatarUnfortunately, the new Prime Minister is one of these cretinous Third Way politicians who supports... [a bunch of policies I just made up]
http://leninology.blogspot.com/2...tion- shock.html
Moonbootica, Heterodox | Homepage | 11.24.07 - 12:29 pm | #

You sir are completely full of shit.
Why would you bother writing or posting an analysis of the policies of a man you have never read a thing about?


GravatarMoonbootica is never full of shit. I didn't read the link though.


Gravatarfuck you mr. howard, boot licker extrodinaire, fucktard, loser, etc. etc.

Way to go Ausies!!!!!!!


GravatarHoward was possibly THE worst prime minister in the history of Australia. He was not elected in congress either. Hopefully he will have hard time finding any job. He sucks.


GravatarHoward was and is, not as bad as some would have you believe.
He steered a very difficult course over the last five years, what with our major ally turning imperialist fascist with a leader who's at best a narcissitic sociopath who has a bunch of LYING CRIMINAL THUGS assisting him.
Also, Howard didn't change the two basic social tenets of Australian society; Medicare (free or subsidized medicine for all Australians) and Centrelink, social assistance for all.
Howard has had control of both Houses of parliament and could have driven any legislation through; he chose not to. East Timor gained it's independance under Howard's auspices,
we have the lowest unemployment rate for 35 years, and our deployment to Iraq has been minimal.
Howard was better than anyone America's thrown up for years, except for Dennis Kucinich.


GravatarHe was a race-baiting asshole in the Republican mode.


GravatarAtrios is a total fuckwit


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