my atrios, I think by doing a screen shot of the Philadelphia transit system circa 1942, including the Liberty Bell line to Allentown, the Red Arrow to Norristown (which I rode with Sam a few weeks ago, a lovely ride), and the trolley's to Media, you would dramaticly illustrate your point.
GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba — In his seventh of month of U.S. captivity, Osama bin Laden's driver told a pair of FBI agents that it was America's fault that the al Qaida leader was alive. The message was, ''You had these opportunities, America. You didn't do anything,'' FBI agent George Crouch Jr. testified Friday at Salim Hamdan's war crimes trial. The United States could have killed bin Laden in Khartoum, Sudan, before he moved to Afghanistan in 1996, Hamdan told his interrogators.
We could have killed Osama's mother in her seventh month of pregnancy, too.
Lime Rickey |
07.26.08 - 12:07 pm | #
If there was a commuter line to Allentown I'd be living out there right now.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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07.26.08 - 12:08 pm | #
Pope Nazi Ratzi is for Mass transit.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.26.08 - 12:08 pm | #
WHY DOES ATRIOS WANT US ALL TO BE HERDED INTO CITIES?
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 12:08 pm | #
We own a two unit income property in the city. We had trouble renting the big unit 5 years ago and had to reduce rents on both units (and accept dogs) - now folks are standing in line to see the apartments. We rented both units in just one weekend and were finally able to raise the rents a bit to catch up to the horrendous tax bills. I'm so glad about our decision to stay in the city. I think all of us who own city property will do fine.
wrigleyfieldkate |
07.26.08 - 12:09 pm | #
A Rock Dork moment that I've been saving for you:
Last weekend, big outdoor fest, Lucinda Williams headlining. Lu has a new band - bluesier, Stonesier, more overtly rockist than any I've previously seen her with. Great set, but the encore just floored us: AC/DC's "It's a Long Way To The Top If You Want To Rocn 'n Roll." Really. We just stood there dumbfounded,
bill buckner |
07.26.08 - 12:11 pm | #
But we all KNOW that, don't we?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 12:11 pm | #
The United States could have killed bin Laden in Khartoum, Sudan, before he moved to Afghanistan in 1996, Hamdan told his interrogators.
Clenis tried, and it was non-stop wagging the dog.
A. Morphous, jerked around |
07.26.08 - 12:12 pm | #
It would certeinly be helpful here in WC if there were more parking at the BART station. After about 830am, fuggeddaboudit.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 12:12 pm | #
Clenis tried, and it was non-stop wagging the dog.
A. Morphous, jerked around
All kinds of things get floated by all kinds of people. Wouldn't get hot and bothered about possibilities more than I had to.
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:15 pm | #
reached about a million people. by "a million people" I don't mean "lots and lots", I mean ten times one hundred thousand.
scarlet p. |
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07.26.08 - 12:17 pm | #
Skull Valley
Damn, that place looks Godforsaken.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 12:17 pm | #
AP: Congress passed a housing rescue bill Saturday aimed at sparing 400,000 struggling homeowners from foreclosure.
Oh and incidentally $300 billion or more for the officers and business partners of Fannie Mae.
Gimlet |
07.26.08 - 12:17 pm | #
an ann veneman trial balloon isn't worth the electrons expended to create...
fokowi |
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07.26.08 - 12:17 pm | #
"The point isn't, as I must restate again and again, that everyone must move to the city"
oh please. you liberal fascists want us all nearby so we can come to the nuremberg style obama rallies
/Jonah
rootless-e, refuriated |
07.26.08 - 12:18 pm | #
I ain't livin' in no place called Skull Valley.
Lime Rickey
Bet Novakula'd like a second home there. With really good blackout curtains.
Upsidasium |
07.26.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Dear Obama,
Please no goopers.
If he hired a Gooper, the other Goopers would have him offed in a heartbeat. He can't possibly be so dumb or arrogant that he doesn't see that.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Damn, that place looks Godforsaken.
blerb | 07.26.08 - 12:17 pm
If you're into astronomy, it might be kinda neat.
R. McGeddon |
07.26.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Skull Valley
I ain't livin' in no place called Skull Valley.
Lime Rickey
I'm surprised fundies haven't forced Duke to quit calling its teams the Blue Devils.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
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07.26.08 - 12:18 pm | #
how depressing - a look at my class in the recent alumni mag which somehow escaped its usual short journey from mailbox to recycling reveals some guy i'm too senile to remember explaining that he is now Emeritus prez of republicans abroad in israel. a shanda fun der goyim.
rootless-e, refuriated |
07.26.08 - 12:21 pm | #
Thoughts on Mike Easley, NC Gov, as VP? Is he anti-choice?
A. Morphous, jerked around |
07.26.08 - 12:21 pm | #
i>Public transportation isn't relevant in this neighborhood. Water - yes.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 07.26.08 - 12:12 pm | #
$371,000 for that?
They're kidding, right?
In a place called "Skull Valley"? Who thought of that lovely moniker?
Wiki doesn't say
qlª - Degenerate |
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07.26.08 - 12:23 pm | #
He's also treasurer, secretary and the only member.
A. Morphous, jerked around | 07.26.08 - 12:22 pm | #
that's a good thought.
rootless-e, refuriated |
07.26.08 - 12:23 pm | #
Easley noticeably avoids talking about social issues, and his stances on such topics are complicated: He's a pro-choice Catholic, but also an avid hunter who recently won the National Rifle Association's endorsement. He opposes gay marriage but seems to have no problem with gay people. Julia Boseman, the Democratic nominee for Ballantine's old N.C. Senate seat and a lesbian, has said that Easley encouraged her to run for the General Assembly.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 12:23 pm | #
I cannot fucking accept that Obama and McCain are in a "dead heat".
That's horsehit. I don't believe it.
MP |
07.26.08 - 12:24 pm | #
All the Atrikitties are bootiful.
That's an especially nice photo of Curly, jeffraham.
Feeling better? Offer for chicken soup still on the table.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 12:24 pm | #
I cannot fucking accept that Obama and McCain are in a "dead heat".
That's horsehit. I don't believe it.
MP
It's wishful thinking by both the Repigs and their enablers in the MSM.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Cool! I'm just in time for Phillyblogging!
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:25 pm | #
One major difference between Southerners and urban yankees is that the latter choose to crowd themselves into rats' nests where they can catch a good whiff of everything abt their neighbors. Normal Americans, like me, prefer space between ourselves and others. People should know their place and respect each other's property.
Toby Petzold |
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07.26.08 - 12:25 pm | #
I cannot fucking accept that Obama and McCain are in a "dead heat".
Sorry for the blogwhore -- I know it's hot -- but over at Box Office, I seriously endorse "Harold and Kumar Escape From Gunatanamo Bay" as the most subversive, anti-Bush movie of the year, plus I list my fave clueless chums/comedy duo movies. http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...nia-spec-
10.php
As always, if you could see your way to go over there and leave a comment, it gets me in good with management, thus allowing me to raise my freelance rate, and ultimately to afford a romantic week in Paris I've been invited to share with a certain femme fatale.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Public transportation isn't relevant in this neighborhood. Water - yes.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 07.26.08 - 12:12 pm
I Google-mapped it and there's a train track running close to this place.
R. McGeddon |
07.26.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Mick Jagger turns 65 years old today, just saying...
here's 65 of his "conquests" (according to a right wing british newspaper, of course!)
This is as pissed off as I've ever seen the electorate. I just can't see them pulling the lever for a 72 year old party hack as their answer.
MP |
07.26.08 - 12:28 pm | #
As a former Philadelphian, can I make a suggestion?
Try not to see the "city or suburbs" argument solely from the prism of living in a very old, Eastern city.
I now live in Milwaukee, and because we're not as beholden to saving housing that continues to stand from the 1730's, it's much easier to get around the entire metropolitan area. Everything within a 15-mile radius of my house is accessible in 25 minutes or less by car, even with rush hour traffic and the center of town having been under a massive road reconstruction project for three years and two years more.
Believe it or not, there are cities in America that are highly populated and expansive where things work. History's great, but at what price to progress?
J. P. |
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07.26.08 - 12:28 pm | #
I'd be surprised if Easley not on the short list, he's seems OK and possibly could flip NC.
I cannot fucking accept that Obama and McCain are in a "dead heat".
My fear is that anything less than a 10 point spread is a virtual dead heat for at least 2 reasons: First, lots of voters who say they'll vote for Obama will, once they enter the booth, vote for McCain; second, given that a huge number of Obama voters are young and registering for the first time, in many places the officials will find "problems" with their registration and disenfranchise them.
R. McGeddon |
07.26.08 - 12:30 pm | #
Sorry, ever since I read "In Cold Blood" I can never even consider living in such a remote area.
qlª - Degenerate |
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07.26.08 - 12:31 pm | #
Skull Valley - the thing about Arizona is that we didn't much go for fancy naming of things. Streets have numbers, mountains are called North or South, and even Camelback is descriptive, not imaginary. If you cross Big Bug Creek, you'll find, um, big bugs.... So, when you find a little town named Skull Valley, the chances are real good that at some point there were were a whole lot of skulls there. Of what is probably in dispute.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
07.26.08 - 12:31 pm | #
I keep wanting to spell McCain McCane. I wonder why that is.
R. McGeddon |
07.26.08 - 12:32 pm | #
Actually, no. It's a pretty strongly Democratic area, mostly. This was the epicenter of the pro-Hillary/anti-Obama crowd, you know.
I didn't say it was especially progressive ... but it does vote Democratic.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:32 pm | #
And part of the land-use issues are because Pennsylvania is a Commonwealth and has a strange governmental structure.
larry, dfh |
07.26.08 - 12:32 pm | #
Soprano: Feeling better? Offer for chicken soup still on the table.
Thanks! I'm at 110%, today. At 7:30, I thought I was gonna have to go back to bed, but by 8:30 last night, I felt fine!
.
Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 12:32 pm | #
Skull Valley is between Kirkland and Prescott.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 12:33 pm | #
Sorry, ever since I read "In Cold Blood" I can never even consider living in such a remote area.
That's what the large black dogs are for.
If they bark or worse, yelp in fear, I know to become prepared.
Doug |
07.26.08 - 12:33 pm | #
What a fragile mind. Better go get drunk.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 12:26 pm | #
Recently you posted a link about planning in Sebastopol California and
the city council (majority Green Party) continues to encourage higher density housing and close to the shops and the major employers. I know they plan to lobby the county for more support of new ways to think about mass transit. Sebastopol helped
promote carfree days
Liars for McCaca |
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07.26.08 - 12:34 pm | #
I didn't say it was especially progressive ... but it does vote Democratic.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 12:32 pm | #
But as lunch-bucket hard working white personification herself, Lynn de Rothschild pointed out - obama is elitist.
OT: Did you see the photo of McCain holding hands with the Dali Lama today?
rootless-e, refuriated |
07.26.08 - 12:34 pm | #
I first saw The Milky Way from Kirkland Jct., AZ.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 12:35 pm | #
Remote? Not hardly - it ain't Willseyville, NY, it's a little town 15 miles outside of Prescott. But, ql, you mustn't restrict yourself to densely populated urban areas. Granted, the wilds of Indiana are pretty frightening, mildly rural, ranching country isn't.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
07.26.08 - 12:35 pm | #
I do have a couple decorative elk and moose skulls in my front yard.
(they were not lodge members)
So far no one has noticed that these are odd items to find in So. Az.
Doug |
07.26.08 - 12:36 pm | #
by 8:30 last night, I felt fine!
Glad to hear it, jeffraham.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 12:36 pm | #
I whored for Simels.
I hope he dont go to France in the summer.
peterboy |
07.26.08 - 12:36 pm | #
Simels! I thought you were already in Gay Paree ...?
Sinfonian, weekend warrior | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 12:27 pm | #
Jeebus tits, that guy's an idiot.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 12:36 pm | #
There's not always enough parking at the Septa regional stations out here in the burbs (see http://www.septa.org/service/par...ce/
parking.html and click on to system map, where a click on a station gives parking space counts and other station information) -- the availability of parking mitigates somewhat the need for highly focused land use requirements. Someone is always having a go at operating a restaurant at the absolutely beautiful and grand old stone station building here in Jenkintown. Parking at Jenkintown ($1 a day, overnights possible) fills up very quickly during the week, even though there are many commuters in the boro who walk to the station, and there's some boro street parking available too. Plenty of free parking available on weekends, of course.
Making comments here always seems (is, actually) fairly futile or a waste of effort, because of the withering din of yammering nonsense that fills the comment threads. (I've sometimes thought that a Cliff Clavin Award should be devised, to be awarded to blog commenters. Cliff would have become one of the crotchety old blog commenters, on the internets where no body knows your name.) Anyway, one of the newer internet traditions, or metrics, seems to be that the higher the ratio of yammer to comment, the more prominent or influential the site must be. In which case, congratulations, Duncan!
bdbd |
07.26.08 - 12:36 pm | #
Is Veneman pro-choice?
Yes, but still a Repug.
Doan want.
I see the Austin Dogburner is here.
Hooray for killfile.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 12:37 pm | #
Jeebus tits, that guy's an idiot.
steve hüssein® simels
As the kids say, word.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:37 pm | #
BBL.
Hold the fort.
Ignore the trolls.
Soprano, sempre libera |
07.26.08 - 12:37 pm | #
So far no one has noticed that these are odd items to find in So. Az.
They just figure they were wintering over when they were taken.
what's the word for next week:
smug?
peterboy |
07.26.08 - 12:38 pm | #
Hold the fort.
Ignore the trolls.
Soprano, sempre libera
If you can killfile them, even better.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 12:39 pm | #
Sinf and steve: yet another example of somebody who pats himself on the back, and attempts to insulate himself from criticism, by calling himself 'politically correct', then slides immediately into factually wrong, hateful bigotry...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:39 pm | #
no goopers are pro-choice.
peterboy |
07.26.08 - 12:39 pm | #
right wing word of the week:
Presumptuous.
what's the word for next week:
smug?
peterboy
Two good words to describe McBombBomb.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 12:39 pm | #
no goopers are pro-choice.
peterboy
Any pro-choice woman who votes Repuke is kidding herself.
Sinf and steve: yet another example of somebody who pats himself on the back, and attempts to insulate himself from criticism, by calling himself 'politically correct', then slides immediately into factually wrong, hateful bigotry...
ProfWombat
Actually, he was saying he's NOT "politically correct," and then he has a ready excuse or justification for bigotry. But I see your point ...
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:40 pm | #
right wing word of the week
Presumptuous.
Getting closer and closer to "uppity" by the minute.
DFH in Dubrovnik in Oregon |
07.26.08 - 12:41 pm | #
ride cymbals were invented to give your right hand something to do for 99% of a song...
fokowi |
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07.26.08 - 12:41 pm | #
'McBombBomb' reminds me, inappropriately, of the wonderful old cartoon 'Gerald McBoingBoing'. Among much else, it introduced me to the Modern Jazz Quartet, whose 'The Morning After' served as its theme song, at an impressionable age...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:41 pm | #
Obama is going to hire himself a nice styrofoam middle-southern-American white male with union-populist appeal and maybe some sort of a military resume. With Miracle whip.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 12:41 pm | #
Sinf: my error; you got it right. he was calling himself 'politically incorrect', as if it were a badge of honor.
I'm jumping in without looking, so I'll probably get in trouble.
Atrios: It IS too expensive. I couldn't care less about losing suburban surroundings, and I'm coming from rural, but hello.------> $$$$$$$$
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 12:43 pm | #
I mean, they may amuse themselves watching us react to various sorts of outside-the-box ideas, but in the end the demographic they need to appeal to is blindingly obvious.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 12:43 pm | #
Believe it or not, there are cities in America that are highly populated and expansive where things work. History's great, but at what price to progress?
J. P.
Oh, JP...You ARE new to Milwaukee, aren't you?
Philadelphians can actually get out of the city by public transportation.
Try going to Waukesha County from Milwaukee by bus. Or train.
Petty, decades-old squabbles. And $91.5 million in fed money held up because Milw. Co.'s GOP exec refuses to pay a cent for anything rail-related.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
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07.26.08 - 12:43 pm | #
TerryC: well, there's that. I gues it'd be, well, politically incorrect, to characterize your remark as calling a spade a spade...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:44 pm | #
The Guantanamo Detainees: The Government's Story, prepared by legal academics from Seton Hall Law School who acted as defense advocates for the detainees.
From the executive summary:
Among the data revealed by this Report: 1. Fifty-five percent (55%) of the detainees are not determined to have committed any hostile acts against the United States or its coalition allies. 2. Only 8% of the detainees were characterized as al Qaeda fighters. Of the remaining detainees, 40% have no definitive connection with al Qaeda at all and 18% are have no definitive affiliation with either al Qaeda or the Taliban. 3. The Government has detained numerous persons based on mere affiliations with a large number of groups that in fact, are not on the Department of Homeland Security terrorist watchlist. Moreover, the nexus between such a detainee and such organizations varies considerably.
Eight percent are detained because they are deemed “fighters for;” 30% considered “members of;” a large majority – 60% -- are detained merely because they are “associated with” a group or groups the Government asserts are terrorist organizations. For 2% of the prisoners their nexus to any terrorist group is unidentified. 4. Only 5% of the detainees were captured by United States forces. 86% of the detainees were arrested by either Pakistan or the Northern Alliance and turned over to United States custody. http://law.shu.edu/news/
guantana...nal_2_08_06.pdf
Doug |
07.26.08 - 12:45 pm | #
I forgot, Hi everyone.
I just had a two hour conversation with a disgruntled Republican who left the young Republicans on campus and took a shitload of people with him.
Interesting, very interesting.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 12:46 pm | #
Normal Americans, like me
So much wrong packed into one sentence frag...
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 12:46 pm | #
hey camelot--good to see you
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:47 pm | #
So it looks like I'm going to have a special guest on the first hour-long Blast Off! Radio this Monday.
Who's the guest? Here's a hint: he's been known to wave around a dildo at DFH gatherings ...
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:47 pm | #
Doug: not news, but good to see in one place, in deceptively neutral prose...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:47 pm | #
Wow -- talk about good timing.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:47 pm | #
Sinf - got yer e-mail. Will be getting back to you ASAP.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 12:47 pm | #
right wing word of the week:
urbane
I thought it was presumptuous, maybe that was the media word?
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 12:48 pm | #
HAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!1!!!
Warren Terra |
07.26.08 - 12:48 pm | #
right wing word of the week
Presumptuous.
And how interesting that every single news outlet and pundit started using that particular word at exactly the same time.
Doc |
07.26.08 - 12:48 pm | #
I cannot fucking accept that Obama and McCain are in a "dead heat".
Well the fact that half the people in this country are still fighting the Civil War doesn't help.
But about the polls: keep in mind that a lot of repugs answering the polls are simply not going to show up to vote, while the Dem turnout is going to be legendary.
DFH in Dubrovnik in Oregon |
07.26.08 - 12:49 pm | #
Sinf - got yer e-mail. Will be getting back to you ASAP.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker
OK ... I'm out of pocket after about 4:30 today, though, FYI.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:49 pm | #
'Presumptuous' means doing something, or assuming the right to do something, someone says is above your station to do. A black man running for president will be called presumptuous from time to time...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:49 pm | #
Normal Americans, like me
So much wrong packed into one sentence frag...
Statistically speaking, if one is greater than 3 SD's away from the center of a normal distribution, one is not considered normal.
Tubbs is an outlier.
billy b |
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07.26.08 - 12:49 pm | #
OK ... I'm out of pocket after about 4:30 today, though, FYI.
ACK. Already e-mailed some pink people, hope to have a response soon. But we can plan some shit with or without...
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 12:50 pm | #
Hey Prof
Are you back back now? You know, over that vacationing thing. It's weird here without you.
No, I'm not flirting. (to anyone who was going to bust me.)
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 12:51 pm | #
Normal Americans, like me
Our trolls all claim to be normal.
All that hatin' on everyone isn't normal.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 12:51 pm | #
camelot: yup; back on vacation a week from Monday for one more week of torture. A great summer so far...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:51 pm | #
Well, I can check in late tonight, NTodd. No worries. Just going out for the evening.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:51 pm | #
"Skull Valley" is actually a brilliant name if you're trying to keep an unspoiled place unspoiled.
Why do you think developers are constantly naming their red-dirt tundra subdivisions things like "Whisperinge Oakes Trace Saddle Pointe"?
I wish somebody had thought to name my hometown something like "Fire Ant Junction" 20 years ago. It might have saved us a lot of problems.
Doc |
07.26.08 - 12:52 pm | #
'Presumptuous' means doing something, or assuming the right to do something, someone says is above your station to do. A black man running for president will be called presumptuous from time to time...
There you have it, my intelligent marsupial pal.
The republics and the media think they're so clever...
billy b |
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07.26.08 - 12:52 pm | #
"Presumptuous"
A word most of the "base" can't even spell correctly.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 12:53 pm | #
"Mosquito flat" is a good one....
blerb |
07.26.08 - 12:53 pm | #
billy b: just as when Reagan embraced 'states' rights' in Philadelphia, MS, everybody knows what the code words mean, every last person in the country. It's both enraging and bemusing to watch people deny it.
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 12:54 pm | #
Saw the X-Files movie yesterday.
In a word: disappointing. It's great to revisit the characters, and the chemistry between Duchovny and Gillian is as wonderful as ever, but the story's not as interesting as it should be.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 12:54 pm | #
right on time the NYTIMES web FRONT PAGE says:
Political Memo
Aiming for Presidential, Not Presumptuous
By JEFF ZELENY 24 minutes ago
Barack Obama’s overseas trip has provided fuel for his critics’ efforts to portray him as arrogant. Above, with Prime Minister Gordon Brown on Saturday in London.
anything else I can do for you, KKKarl?
best and keep up the fight,
yours,
Jeff.
peterboy |
07.26.08 - 12:54 pm | #
MoDo tomorrow should be withering.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 12:55 pm | #
"Ed Rollins, a veteran Republican strategist who was working for former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee earlier this year. "McCain is having a disastrous week," Rollins said. "It would have been better if he had just kept a low profile and stayed out of the limelight. He got dragged into making a lot of stupid comments about Obama, and there's been this tremendous contrast with the visuals, which is what a lot of people pay attention to."
billy b |
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07.26.08 - 12:56 pm | #
MoDo tomorrow should be withering.
plantsman
I think she already is. That picture of her that they use is probably an old one.
Doc |
07.26.08 - 12:56 pm | #
I'm going to see "Dark Knight" tonight.
Sinfonian, weekend warrior |
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07.26.08 - 12:56 pm | #
plantsman, wasn't it mododo who coined, 'commander in chiefiness'?
fokowi |
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07.26.08 - 12:58 pm | #
Okay folks, I have a month before school again. If there is any calling, marching, protesting, campaigning, fundraising, etc. to be done, let me know. I have been doing as much as I can, but I am ready for an extra push in August.
No, I don't do windows.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 12:58 pm | #
yours,
Jeff.
peterboy
P.S. Let Ron Fournier I'm on the team! Every AP pickup lets me support the cause even more!
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
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07.26.08 - 12:58 pm | #
Saw the X-Files movie yesterday.
In a word: disappointing. It's great to revisit the characters, and the chemistry between Duchovny and Gillian is as wonderful as ever, but the story's not as interesting as it should be.
steve hüssein® simels | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 12:54 pm
It's not getting good reviews. I'll wait until the DVD.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.26.08 - 12:59 pm | #
I always wait for the DVD.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:00 pm | #
My discussion with the Republican made me realize old school Republicans are not happy but can't look to the youth in their party, because they are all neo-cons. That is all they've known since they have been paying attention.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 1:01 pm | #
Just don't any of you make the mistake of going to see Journey to the Center of the Earth. Not that you would without some kid to drag you in there kicking and screaming. But even then you must resist. Mick LaSalle is the movie Wanker of The Century for giving that the same rating as Wall-E.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 1:04 pm | #
camelot: the neocon world view would seem as decisively refuted as it could be by onsuing events. After seven years of untrammeled freedom to pursue it, they haven't a single achievement to point to, not even Israel's security or a prosperous stock market. Not one.
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:04 pm | #
I lived in Glenside, PA, a few blocks from the septa station. It was ideal. A small, walkable "town". Commuters like my husband and my neighbors, could take the train into center city. I worked further out in the suburbs, in Horsham. If I was travelling, I could roll my suitcase to the station and take the R-1 right to the airport - it was AWESOME.
Several of the suburbs have this small town, but accessible to the city, feel. Jenkintown, Elkins Park, Glenside, Bryn Mawr, Narberth, Ambler, etc...
katie |
07.26.08 - 1:04 pm | #
In the Bay Area there is 'Allameda de las Pulgas', Shady grove of the FLeas, didn't keep the gringoes out.
larry, dfh |
07.26.08 - 1:05 pm | #
I can understand why traditional Republicans, having seen Chimpy bankrupt the country, might be a tad disturbed.
Yet, according to polls, they still voted overwhelmingly for CaWigula. So the hell with 'em.
R. McGeddon |
07.26.08 - 1:05 pm | #
blerb: my kids'll probably get me to see 'Journey'. After 16 years with kids, I can find glimpses, however fleeting, of decency in just about anything short of 'Alvin and the Chipmunks' or 'Hannah Montana'...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:06 pm | #
After seven years of untrammeled freedom to pursue it, they haven't a single achievement to point to, not even Israel's security or a prosperous stock market. Not one.
ProfWombat
Nonsense. They have strengthened the Oiligarchy to the point where it will be a dominant force in our civilization for decades to come. To imagine the contless billions they have funneled imto their circle of cronies staggers the mind. It was perhaps the most successful heist in all of world history.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 1:07 pm | #
And that's why the call it the blues!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:08 pm | #
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker
At your place, their=there. I am not even bothering to fix it.
Just don't any of you make the mistake of going to see Journey to the Center of the Earth.
Just what I needed. It is the second movie after Dark Knight at the drive-in. Not worth it, huh?
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 1:08 pm | #
blerb has it right.
they looted like pirates and are still working hard to protect non-wage income and inheritance.
peterboy |
07.26.08 - 1:08 pm | #
blerb: that's a success on their terms, but not on anybody else's, and not in terms of the stated aims of their agenda. I don't disagree with you, but there's an internal contradiction there that will cost them support in the future, and require grown-ups to clean up their mess.
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:08 pm | #
After 16 years with kids, I can find glimpses, however fleeting, of decency in just about anything short of 'Alvin and the Chipmunks' or 'Hannah Montana'...
ProfWombat
Well, good luck on this one. I can't recall anything more simultaneously perfunctory and derivative in a really long time. I advise you to find the 3-D version and get really stoned beforehand.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 1:09 pm | #
blerb: I still fondly remember Gertrude the duck from the 'Journey' of my callow youth...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:10 pm | #
that's a success on their terms, but not on anybody else's, and not in terms of the stated aims of their agenda.
Oh, I know. I was just offering a cynical take on what you said. It was not really intended as a head-on argument. Obviously they have done no good whatsoever for the world at large on their watch.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 1:11 pm | #
blerb: you recall to me Jonathan Kozol's take on 'school failure': he asys that if the purpose of the schools is to grind out drones fit for corporate employment without the ability to question and think independently, then schools aren't a failure at all...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:13 pm | #
I'm wondering what the judiciary committee is gonna do after the hearings yesterday. There was no vote at the end of the day. So I'm thinking unless there is some kind of groundswell yesterday is what we'll get.
I really don't think they understand just how angry people are.
qlª - Degenerate |
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07.26.08 - 1:14 pm | #
Is this the House Judiciary Committee discussing impeachment?
blerb |
07.26.08 - 1:15 pm | #
right wing word of the week
Presumptuous.
And how interesting that every single news outlet and pundit started using that particular word at exactly the same time.
Doc |
Candy Crowley: And JFK. The campaign loves hearing this. But there is some danger, we don't know how U.S. voters see this: too presumptuous? Looking too much like a president? He's trying to avoid that, downplays that. But he gets big U.S. applause when he talks about healing rifts overseas.
Townhall's Carol Platt Liebau: "Watching news footage of Barack's Berlin speech last night, it wasn't just his reference to being a 'citizen of the world' (a term beloved of the left) that irked me. Rather, it was the sheer presumptuousness of an American presidential candidate apologizing for his country.
The Associated Press said the speech "risked being seen as presumptuous" while the Washington Post wondered if Obama was "overly cocky" and the Chicago Tribune recalled the fine line "between looking presidential and appearing arrogant."
The NYTs But along the way to appearing presidential, did Senator Barack Obama cross a political line — as he and his advisers quietly feared, and some Republicans hoped — by coming across as too presumptuous?
509 hits on Google News
Gimlet |
07.26.08 - 1:16 pm | #
McCain Way Ahead in South Carolina
A new Research 2000 poll in South Carolina finds Sen. John McCain with a healthy lead over Sen. Barack Obama, 53% to 40%.
Key finding: Obama gets just 15% of the white vote.
jack |
07.26.08 - 1:16 pm | #
Is this the House Judiciary Committee discussing impeachment?
blerb
Yes. But remember it wasn't an impeachment hearing.
qlª - Degenerate |
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07.26.08 - 1:17 pm | #
I'm wondering what the judiciary committee is gonna do after the hearings yesterday.
Since I don't watch, can you tell me if the corporate media covering it at all?
509 hits on Google News
Gimlet |
You could make a blog just mocking their word of the day.
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 1:19 pm | #
South Carolina? Bwahahaha. There mere fact that one would even look to the polls there to gain information about a presidential contest is the kiss of death for the Republicans.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 1:19 pm | #
Key finding: Obama gets just 15% of the white vote.
jack
Good News!
I think he might be leading in Utah too.
Gimlet |
07.26.08 - 1:19 pm | #
Yeah, but isn't urban planning like, you know...SOCIALISM?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 1:20 pm | #
It is pretty uncanny. I say we waterboard them all and find out who's issuing the orders.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 1:21 pm | #
Sinf - if you're still here, you have a couple of e-mails.
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker |
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07.26.08 - 1:21 pm | #
McCain Way Ahead in South Carolina
A new Research 2000 poll in South Carolina finds Sen. John McCain with a healthy lead over Sen. Barack Obama, 53% to 40%.
Key finding: Obama gets just 15% of the white vote.
jack | 07.26.08 - 1:16 pm
The smell of flop sweat will be hard to disperse over the next four or so mothns. Of course, it will get even more severe as the day of white enslavement approaches.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 1:21 pm | #
i must protest steve's characterization of the dog as part of a dumbass duo.
pretzelattack |
07.26.08 - 1:22 pm | #
McCain must be wearing a whole-body Depends under his suit every day just to keep all his flop sweat from gushing out onto the floor. It's like having ants crawling all over you just to watch him.
blerb |
07.26.08 - 1:23 pm | #
It's not the enslavement of whites that excites me, it's the forced conversion to Islam and compulsory gay marriage.
Warren Terra |
07.26.08 - 1:23 pm | #
For a little humor, someone put up a post over a K-Lo's Corner stating that civilized people do not ignore death and destruction happening in front of their very eyes.
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.26.08 - 1:24 pm | #
if it is a hearing on impeachment, aren't they supposed to hear? listening would be nice, but i dont want to ask too much.
pretzelattack |
07.26.08 - 1:24 pm | #
Snow: in case you missed it on the earlier thread, I value your opinion and will read a bit more on the subject of Scots history before bloviating further on it...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:25 pm | #
One of the "big 3" stopped offering leases through their financing arm, I hear... due to the decreased resale value of SUVs, et al.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:25 pm | #
Drive by, back from Hannibal MO and getting things back together here, but
i must protest steve's characterization of the dog as part of a dumbass duo.
pretzelattack | 07.26.08 - 1:22 pm | #
I cheated on that one. Sorry.
My all time fave moment in movie history is when the dog looks at Don Johnson, who's done something egregiously stupid, and just goes -- in Tim McIntire's voice -- "Putz."
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 1:27 pm | #
Heh. It was K-Lo herself. Trolling her Corner by her lonesome today maybe.
Roma Deaths Ignored [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
This is a disturbing story from Italy. Civilized people just don't ignore death and destruction before our eyes.
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.26.08 - 1:27 pm | #
Jane Mayer's book and articles are very disturbing and well worth one's attention.
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:27 pm | #
I agree Ruth.
Question:
Why is Move On giving out free Obama buttons and the campaign isn't?
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 1:27 pm | #
in case you missed it on the earlier thread, I value your opinion and will read a bit more on the subject of Scots history before bloviating further on it...
These are exercises in cognitive thinking. A test of my preconceived thoughts against other viewpoints.
Don't deny me my crack!
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.26.08 - 1:30 pm | #
camelot: Why is Move On giving out free Obama buttons and the campaign isn't?
Like a drug dealer, only the first one is free.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:31 pm | #
In case you haven't seen it, the mouthbreathers at the WSJ think the success of the Dark Knight is because it's an allegory for the Bush administration. http://online.wsj.com/article/
SB...=googlenews_wsj
My fave bit:
"Like W, Batman sometimes has to push the boundaries of civil rights to deal with an emergency, certain that he will re-establish those boundaries when the emergency is past." [emphasis mine]
This guys not just a delusional asshole, he's also a fricking liar.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.26.08 - 1:31 pm | #
Is this the House Judiciary Committee discussing impeachment?
blerb
Shhh... 'impeachment' not part of this congressional inquery. No names should be used, and oh BTW, 'high crimes and misdemeanors' ONLY applies if there was personal gain (IOW Chimpy broke the law for the good of the country, therefor what he did is not an impeachable offense) according to some professor brought in to testify by the Repugnican minority on the committee.
SoCalCommie |
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07.26.08 - 1:32 pm | #
Nobody Wants To Live In The City It's Too Expensive
like a movie is real life. WSJ thinks if it works on the silver screen or TV, it works in real life.
calling jack bauer.
peterboy |
07.26.08 - 1:33 pm | #
BTW, this post is what I'm talking about re: commuter rail. Build up the retail around the transit hubs. Maybe even a big store as anchor at each station.
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.26.08 - 1:33 pm | #
less cars please
Is that a request for tonight?
NTodd, Cranky Motherfucker | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 1:25 pm |
I'm totally carless, I don't even have a licence. Does that count as 'doing something?'
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.26.08 - 1:33 pm | #
Roma Deaths Ignored [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
This is a disturbing story from Italy. Civilized people just don't ignore death and destruction before our eyes.
K-Lo shouldn't have any problem with the deaths of Roma...they are the Nihs of Europe.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 1:34 pm | #
Flanked by fellow Senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham, McCain noted they'd undertaken their week long fact-finding tour of Iraq, Jordan, Israel, England and France as members of Congress's Armed Services committee -- not as some sort of campaign foreign road show. Perhaps, but discussing international affairs with foreign leaders and enhancing McCain's presidential hopes aren't mutually exclusive. Still, McCain acted the apt pupil. "I wish every senator, every senator would make this same trip," McCain said, noting several of the first-hand educational experiences he'd gotten. "They'd be better informed."
Buckeye: I'm totally carless, I don't even have a licence. Does that count as 'doing something?'
I, too, am without automobile.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.26.08 - 1:35 pm | #
steve: the pop culture has legitimized torture and civil rights abuse, from 'Dirty Harry' to Tom Clancy to '24', as the necessary, and effective, recourse professionals take when they have to save the world, despite the best efforts of pusillanimous, hypocritical meddlers who get in their way. Not so, of course, in real life, any more than one can reliably shoot someone's firearm out of his hand without wounding him, as countless Westerns portrayed...
ProfWombat |
07.26.08 - 1:35 pm | #
Furthermore, the Roma are also the Hajiis of Europe. Worthless vermin infesting our oil fields.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.26.08 - 1:35 pm | #
according to some asshole brought in to annoy everyone by the Repugnican minority on the committee.
triangulated your torture
camelot/ tiaras and spandex |
07.26.08 - 1:36 pm | #
Flanked by fellow Senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham, McCain noted they'd undertaken their week long fact-finding tour of Iraq, Jordan, Israel, England and France as members of Congress's Armed Services committee -- not as some sort of campaign foreign road show.
Did it occur to McCain to be honest that Obama went over there as part of a Congressional delegation as well or has he completely given up on the thought of an appearance of honesty?
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.26.08 - 1:43 pm | #
fellow Senators Joe Lieberman and Lindsey Graham, McCain
The Pimp, the Wimp and the Simp.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.26.08 - 1:50 pm | #
People should know their place and respect each other's property.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 12:25 pm | #
people do. Republicans don't. case closed.
ronjazz |
07.26.08 - 3:31 pm | #