I get so tired when the reporters do this "On the one hand, on the other hand" crap. In the linked story they didn't even bother do here from our hand!
Spocko |
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09.22.07 - 3:40 pm | #
Instead of listening to republican staffers, how about they ask some ordinary people?
WE WANT THE WAR TO END.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork |
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09.22.07 - 3:41 pm | #
Shailagh Murray: But the GOP Sentate staffers are so cute! And they bought me lunch!
Don't make me blogwhore the Heathers piece again.
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Babel, Sept 22, 2007 (VOI) – U.S. forces killed a family of seven members including women and children on suspicion they belonged to one of the militias in al-Iskandariya district, 50 km north of Babel province, an official police source in Babel said.
"U.S. forces raided a house in al-Iskandariya and opened fire at a family, killing all seven members. The U.S. soldiers then detonated the house," the source, who declined to have his name mentioned, told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
No comment was made by the U.S. side so far on the reported incident.
The source noted that after detonating the house, the U.S. forces clashed with the local residents of al-Iskandariya, killing 12 of them.
Hilla, the capital of Babel, lies 100 km north of Baghdad.
Souter, by the way, signed my admission to the SCOTUS bar. I'm sure glad it wasn't one of the wingnuts.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 3:41 pm | #
Hi, Molly! I'm still crying.
I no longer cry. These last six years have emptied my tear reservoirs for good.
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 3:41 pm | #
In the linked story they didn't even bother do here from our hand!
They were wanking with that hand; it was all icky.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 3:42 pm | #
Don't make me blogwhore the Heathers piece again.
A classic, for sure.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 3:42 pm | #
I get so tired when the reporters do this "On the one hand, on the other hand" crap. In the linked story they didn't even bother do here from our hand!
Murray is a hack.
There's obviously a deeply ingrained dislike of democrats among a lot of the beltway reporting group.
They need to pull their head out of their asses.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork |
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09.22.07 - 3:42 pm | #
You xians and your devil . . . .
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Hey, he brought up the medieval mythology, not me!
My question is: who reads WaPo besides the Beltway crowd, and how much effect is this article having on public opinion?
I'll take my answer off the air....
Rmj, Ecce Homo |
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09.22.07 - 3:42 pm | #
mineral spirits - I like that term. Spocko
It's the technical term for Ore-Ida brand vodka.
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 3:43 pm | #
What is Shailagh Murray's story?
brain blob |
09.22.07 - 3:43 pm | #
Hey, he brought up the medieval mythology, not me!
I love you.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 3:43 pm | #
Don't make me blogwhore the Heathers piece again. Molly Ivors
I enjoyed that one. Kind of.
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 3:44 pm | #
I no longer cry. These last six years have emptied my tear reservoirs for good.
After sorrow comes anger.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 3:44 pm | #
That book review is pretty annoying.
Sandra Day O'Connor can kiss my ass.
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09.22.07 - 3:44 pm | #
Shailagh Murray: But the GOP Sentate staffers are so cute! And they bought me lunch!
She's clearly been high-fiving them all about Bush's recent successes.
If the republicans want to keep going down this road, let them.
It's not changing public opinion and people are just getting more and more pissed out.
They'll pay at the ballot box next year.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork |
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09.22.07 - 3:45 pm | #
Again, this proves the problem that the whole of last week has convinced me of:
Public opinion doesn't matter anymore. None of it does. The majority of the country seems dead set against this whole war and the GOP policies.
But the media operates in a way to completely mask that assert the dead exact opposite thing. And while the public doesn't buy it, Washington does, and thus, we're cut out of the process and proven obsolete. What we do will never matter as long as the media has a direct line into the ears of leaders, telling them 'facts' crafted out of bullshit, and as long as our Democrats in Washington choose to believe them rather than their own party and voters.
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09.22.07 - 3:45 pm | #
Don't make me blogwhore the Heathers piece again. Molly Ivors
What "heathers" piece?
res ipsa loquitur |
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Republicans believe Bush's shit tastes like ice cream.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 3:45 pm | #
My question is: who reads WaPo besides the Beltway crowd, and how much effect is this article having on public opinion?
I read it everyday and it hasn't had any effect on my opinion.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork |
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09.22.07 - 3:46 pm | #
My question is: who reads WaPo besides the Beltway crowd, and how much effect is this article having on public opinion?
I'll take my answer off the air....
tsk tsk
What is public opinion? As Asshat and Assear in 1967 noted the U.S. political stage has problems with inadequate kabuki masks. Now, my esteemed colleges may surely shake their august heads and auburn earhairs but as my young and vigorous friend here has pointed out anyone not aware of Testicle 1989 on how very bifurcated sulphur can be should just grin and nod. Do you not agree, Assmunch, my dear fellow?
End of translation from inside the Beltway.
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09.22.07 - 3:46 pm | #
The source noted that after detonating the house, the U.S. forces clashed with the local residents of al-Iskandariya, killing 12 of them
Al Qaeda, no doubt. Not locals expressing their displeasure with the Americans' slaughter of their neighbors.
(Any children in the family of 7 were just baby jihadists, too.)
V for Virginia, still pissed |
09.22.07 - 3:46 pm | #
(First in a series.)
res ipsa loquitur |
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Sandra Day O'Connor can kiss my ass.
Please allow me to serve you a gourment meal of cauliflower soup, cabbage stir-fry, and kielbasa, first.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 3:46 pm | #
I posted another one this morning, linking to Hecate, BTW.
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09.22.07 - 3:47 pm | #
And while the public doesn't buy it, Washington does, and thus, we're cut out of the process and proven obsolete. What we do will never matter as long as the media has a direct line into the ears of leaders
Believe me, they'll see us next year at the ballot box. Everyone is pissed about the war, not just democratic leftie hippy type bloggers.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork |
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09.22.07 - 3:47 pm | #
"The public has grown more patient on Iraq"
Shailagh should be shellaced.
Richard |
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09.22.07 - 3:47 pm | #
Hecate:
res ipsa loquitur |
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But the media operates in a way to completely mask that assert the dead exact opposite thing. And while the public doesn't buy it, Washington does, and thus, we're cut out of the process and proven obsolete. What we do will never matter as long as the media has a direct line into the ears of leaders, telling them 'facts' crafted out of bullshit, and as long as our Democrats in Washington choose to believe them rather than their own party and voters.
Kryptik | 09.22.07 - 3:45 pm | #
But, but, we have a REAL Congress and not a rubber-stamp Supreme Soviet........oh, wait
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Please allow me to serve you a gourment meal of cauliflower soup, cabbage stir-fry, and kielbasa, first.
Missan, Sept 22, 2007 (VOI) – A prisoner identified by the initials M.G. hardly knew anything about smuggling of antiquities and has never thought for one day to get involved into this.
One of his relatives, however, enlightened him about "these treasures buried under the ground." Digging for artifacts, M.G. was introduced to the first palm-sized statuette. He was totally ignorant about the historical value of this monument but he learnt a great deal about its financial value when he sold it for 200 dollars.
Only then M.G. knew that trading in antiquities could bring him much more money than he would get from farming or selling merchandise in the market.
Since the hills near his village were full of antiquities and needed a little patience and risk-taking, M.G. was resolved that he would quit his farming activities and start stealing and selling his nation's history.
"I was wandering among archeological hills in the areas of al-Tayyib, al-Beteira and al-Haffa. I did not see any guards near those hills," M.G. told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
later, batz
Barbarism Begins at Home |
09.22.07 - 3:49 pm | #
They'll pay at the ballot box next year.
As long as it's not a Diebold ballot box.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 3:49 pm | #
Allow me to say that turtle boy John Cornyn bought him self a whole fucking truckload of trouble with his opposition to Webb's amendment this week.
His likely opposition is a former military officer- he's going to beat Cornyn about the head and shoulders with it.
Cornyn is too stupid to live.
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09.22.07 - 3:49 pm | #
Public opinion doesn't matter anymore. None of it does. The majority of the country seems dead set against this whole war and the GOP policies.
During Vietnam, it took almost a decade for public opinion to matter. Even after the withdrawal, there was a strong sentiment that we shouldn't have left.
Which is why all those Rambo and Chuck Norris movies were so popular, and why black "MIA" flags were so ubiquitous for another 20 years or so. Public opinion is a tricky beast, and its usually reflected inside the Beltway about a decade or more too late. Then it all snaps back to status quo.
Why, I remember the "clean sweep" that Watergate brought to town. That lasted all of...what, 2 years?
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09.22.07 - 3:49 pm | #
I did hear there were some factions in the Republican party that believe it tasted like Rocky Road.
He had corn.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 3:50 pm | #
Okay, now I'm really off to the city for the trad elitist chardonnay fest.
Have fun in my absence, and we shall talk later ce soir, j'espere....
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Public opinion doesn't matter anymore. None of it does. The majority of the country seems dead set against this whole war and the GOP policies.
But the media operates in a way to completely mask that assert the dead exact opposite thing.
Kryptik
The old style media cannot figure out why they are continuing to lose ad revenue and readers.
Could it be because no one trusts them any more? Might they be cutting their own throats? Isn't it better to kiss up to the politicians in power, and to hell with the common good?
Naah...
A country gets the journalism it deserves, sadly.
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Assuming Ror's still here:
I do wonder to whom you refer when you say "People," though.
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A certain subset of architectural- and border-theory types.
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09.22.07 - 3:51 pm | #
Believe me, they'll see us next year at the ballot box. Everyone is pissed about the war, not just democratic leftie hippy type bloggers.
But what about before then?
A year is a long time, especially when this administration is concerned. And the current crop of Dems we've seen have been spineless and choose to listen to Washington Media Hacks rather than the public, with the stern, balls-out idiotic belief that they ARE responding the public's will.
I want them to fight NOW, not in a year from now. Otherwise, we'll have more shit that needs cleaning up, and no doubt a hostile GOP that will do their best to keep us from doing it and simultaneously trying to hang it around our necks as OUR mess.
A White House victory won't be an antidote to spineless blind idiocy in our party's leaders.
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:My question is: who reads WaPo besides the Beltway crowd, and how much effect is this article having on public opinion?
I read it everyday and it hasn't had any effect on my opinion.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
Well, Bush, Petraeus, and a full-court press by the MSM failed to sway public opinion about the war.
Maybe it's time to stop shooting the messengers. Nobody's listening to their message anyway....
Rmj, Ecce Homo |
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09.22.07 - 3:52 pm | #
A country gets the journalism it deserves, sadly.
David Derbes
In a nonpunitive sense, yes. How does one do "neutral" journalism? The idea seems to be to attack both sides equally, even if one side is much more heinous. Add to that the assumption that "everybody" can easily see the obvious heinous stuff and that it's much more interesting to slice hairs on the heads of Obama or Clinton or Edwards.
It's a very odd world, really.
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Nearly two million Iraqis have fled their homes for other parts of Iraq since the US-led invasion, creating a "human tragedy without precedence," the country's Red Crescent said.
Most of them are women and children - poor, sick, suffering from malnutrition - with little access to the country's health infrastructure or basic services.
The United Nations estimates that a further two million have fled their homeland completely, travelling to Syria, Jordan and other neighbouring countries.
According to the Red Crescent report released on Saturday, the number of displaced people increased by some 71 percent in August compared to the previous month, with most of the rise taking place in Baghdad.
The capital now had nearly one million displaced people for an estimated total population of four to five million, it said. There are 1,930,946 internally dispaced people across the country.
I'm here avoiding dusting and vacuuming. Will I ever grow up?
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 3:55 pm | #
How does one do "neutral" journalism
Refuse to engage anyone in power on any issue.
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 3:55 pm | #
I'm here avoiding dusting and vacuuming. Will I ever grow up?
Echidne
I avoided that this morning. Now I'm avoiding work.
Peter Pan had nothin' on me!
Rmj, Ecce Homo |
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09.22.07 - 3:55 pm | #
I'm here avoiding dusting and vacuuming. Will I ever grow up?
I dunno. I linked to you too, partly to avoid the laundry.
I did fix my dishwasher today, so I have a great sense of accomplishment.
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09.22.07 - 3:56 pm | #
Two, Gore was Old News--he'd been around forever, and here was this new person. Why a responsible journalist would not see that as an opportunity to investigate, I don't know. But they didn't. They just turned on the taps in one direction and left the other more or less perfectly dry.
If only dear Molly Ivins had written an ENTIRE FUCKING BOOK on the Shrub and his malfeasance in Texas and his shitty business history and his questionable personal past and his suspect intellect! Then the mighty media mavens could have had one source to refer to in case they thought there was anything fishy about Mr. Amiable Idler!
[defenestrates self from very tall building]
V for Virginia, still pissed |
09.22.07 - 3:56 pm | #
won't have to wait until 2008 to the see the goopers implode
Last year the goopers were all over the place saying the gov race in Washington State was going to be very close and the republican had never stopped campaigning from the previous race
Now gooper is trailing and the margin is wider. And they are whinning and crying like little babies
Liars for Bush |
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The capital now had nearly one million displaced people for an estimated total population of four to five million, it said. There are 1,930,946 internally dispaced people across the country.
Smell the freedom! How can anyone deny Bush is doing the right thing?
Rmj, Ecce Homo |
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09.22.07 - 3:56 pm | #
How does one do "neutral" journalism
What JeffCO said. Also, I think journalists must be skeptical and confrontational with power and see themselves as the eyes and ears of the people rather than employees of a corporation.
But I'm funny that way. The Dan Rather interviews have really been getting under my skin this week.
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09.22.07 - 3:57 pm | #
I'm here avoiding dusting and vacuuming. Will I ever grow up?
I'm a kidz 'Я' us kid.
JeffCO |
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If only dear Molly Ivins had written an ENTIRE FUCKING BOOK on the Shrub and his malfeasance in Texas and his shitty business history and his questionable personal past and his suspect intellect! Then the mighty media mavens could have had one source to refer to in case they thought there was anything fishy about Mr. Amiable Idler!
Well, she quit working for the New York Times and went to work for Texas newspapers no one had ever heard of, so how could you take her seriously?
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09.22.07 - 3:58 pm | #
so over a million Iraqis are dead and another billion are displaced
great going Bush junta!
Moonbootica, Job Hunting |
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09.22.07 - 3:58 pm | #
When she wrote the second one, V, she said "we wouldn't be doing this if you'd listened to me the first time."
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 3:58 pm | #
I did fix my dishwasher today, so I have a great sense of accomplishment.
I blogged your post. Girl, you sure can write.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 3:59 pm | #
[defenestrates self from very tall building]
This shows some real style.
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 4:00 pm | #
I'm surprised there are any Iraqis still in Iraq
what with cholera, starvation, lack of basic services, daily car bombings, being shot to death by US Forces or the various militias, driven out of their homes, kidnappings
Moonbootica, Job Hunting |
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09.22.07 - 4:00 pm | #
Now I can look it up and avoid even more chores.
I was thinking more about why that hasn't been getting more play, and I think the conventional wisdom that Warner spouts really is the reason: "feminism's over; it did what it had to do and went away."
presidential loser mike hucksterbee is widely believed to be planning to run for the Senate against Mark Pyor and all this tv campaigning is to build up his status with the national press.
Liars for Bush |
09.22.07 - 4:00 pm | #
Echidne:
Sometimes I'll talk to people who are just overwhelmed by all "this stuff" (politics and war).
They feel that if they get started they will have to go into the weeds to really understand it and that to them is like taking castor oil. (An old American health cure, it tastes bad but is supposed to be good for you)
And the Heathers understood this person's reading needs. "Let someone else do the castor oil reporting. I'll do the fun stuff, because that is what people make their decisions on anyway."
They know what is sexy and fun and the oppo people feed it to them. And then we are off to the races
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09.22.07 - 4:00 pm | #
I'll be Mr. Sulu! Oh, my.
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09.22.07 - 4:01 pm | #
The capital now had nearly one million displaced people for an estimated total population of four to five million, it said. There are 1,930,946 internally dispaced people across the country.
Smell the freedom! How can anyone deny Bush is doing the right thing?
Rmj, Ecce Homo
They were obviously living in the wrong places to begin with.
V for Virginia, still pissed |
09.22.07 - 4:01 pm | #
[Insert vasectomy joke here]
No, he handles garbage, cooking, and the occasional laundry. He also changes poopy diapers.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 4:01 pm | #
It must suck to be Atrios - always right.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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09.22.07 - 4:02 pm | #
JP, did you make your long scooter trip?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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09.22.07 - 4:02 pm | #
"feminism's over; it did what it had to do and went away."
It did take a generation, but now young women can wear low rise jeans and let their T-bars hang out the back, just like the men.
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 4:02 pm | #
Add to that the assumption that "everybody" can easily see the obvious heinous stuff and that it's much more interesting to slice hairs on the heads of Obama or Clinton or Edwards.
Democrats are "do-gooders." That means they have to be torn down.
It's a little like the hybrid car/organic food thing. Buy a Hummer, or a Big Mac, and you're fine. Buy a Prius or some heirloom tomatoes, and every journalist on the beat turns into the bastard offspring of Thorsten Veblen and Mother Jones.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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09.22.07 - 4:02 pm | #
Diane C.: JP, did you make your long scooter trip?
A fortnight from yesterday. Work had plans for yesterday and Monday.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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09.22.07 - 4:03 pm | #
Thorstein, that is.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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09.22.07 - 4:03 pm | #
But I'm funny that way. The Dan Rather interviews have really been getting under my skin this week.
Me too.
I hope he fucks CBS with a rusty chain saw.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork |
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09.22.07 - 4:03 pm | #
His likely opposition is a former military officer- he's going to beat Cornyn about the head and shoulders with it.
So mote it be.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 4:03 pm | #
Isn't this chick of fighting age?
Go enlist, or at least go there and report out of the Green Zone.
If Repubs on Capitol Hill are so emboldened then it is surely safe enough to go there and tell us all what you see.
Karatist Preacher |
09.22.07 - 4:03 pm | #
No, he handles garbage, cooking, and the occasional laundry. He also changes poopy diapers.
How does he do it? He he has an Irish Geritol every morning.
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 4:04 pm | #
I'm here avoiding dusting and vacuuming. Will I ever grow up?
One thing I find astonishing is the extent to which so called journalists adhere to preconcieved narratives regardless of whether the subsequent facts actually support them.
The beltway fucks decided months ago that the Petraeus "report" was going to turn the tide of public opinion on Bush's surge, and they'll be damned if they give up on that bullshit storyline now. I guess they think that, if they report it that way long enough, they make it become true.
Richard |
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09.22.07 - 4:04 pm | #
Someone stole the "Support the Troops: End the War" sign from my front yard.
It amazes me how scared some people are of the truth.
So you know what I did? I went to IraqCampaign.org and ordered several more.
For every theft, a new one will be placed on the terrace of my busy corner, until this fucking war is over.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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09.22.07 - 4:04 pm | #
"feminism's over; it did what it had to do and went away."
I am still here.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 4:05 pm | #
A fortnight from yesterday. Work had plans for yesterday and Monday.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Work has a habit of intruding on things, doesn't it.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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09.22.07 - 4:05 pm | #
Zod says no.
And he knows!
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 4:05 pm | #
Isn't this chick of fighting age?
She's bravely fighting the Demopacifislamofascist fifth column here at home. What more do you want?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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09.22.07 - 4:05 pm | #
Add to that the assumption that "everybody" can easily see the obvious heinous stuff and that it's much more interesting to slice hairs on the heads of Obama or Clinton or Edwards.
That's how it goes - everybody knows.
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 4:05 pm | #
I'm still a feminist, and proud of it.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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09.22.07 - 4:06 pm | #
I was thinking more about why that hasn't been getting more play, and I think the conventional wisdom that Warner spouts really is the reason: "feminism's over; it did what it had to do and went away."
Bullshit.
Yeah, it's bullshit. Both because a few decades will not fix the social and cultural values that have a history of at least a thousand years and because the assumption is that all the necessary gains were made quickly and are quite safe now, whereas in reality we are stepping back two steps for each step forward we take.
One of the oddest arguments I often face is that family violence is somehow not an important issue because a study or so shows that women start as many fights as men. Why would this stop it from being an issue? Is it ok if violence is killing men and women in equal numbers?
But arguments like that are quite common now.
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 4:06 pm | #
Fuck Zod.
Hmmmmmmm....just had a thought. Maybe we can hook up Zod and Incog for a little masochistic action...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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09.22.07 - 4:06 pm | #
Ahhh. With 2 vicodins my back has at last stopped hurting. The nausea and slack-jawed drooling are a small price to pay for that.
blerb |
09.22.07 - 4:06 pm | #
Diane C.: Work has a habit of intruding on things, doesn't it.
It's better than the alternative...!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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09.22.07 - 4:06 pm | #
my dad rarely does the housework at all and the kitchen, forget it
my dad sticks to the financial side and spreadsheets
so my mum does the laundry, cooking, recycling, feeding the cats, cleaning etc.
I also help out, if she is away for a night or in case of the world jamboree a couple of weeks I usually take over
Moonbootica, Job Hunting |
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09.22.07 - 4:06 pm | #
I am still here.
Me too. It really is the strangest meme.
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 4:07 pm | #
Vicki,
Good on you. My "Impeach Them" sign is still here, but I live in a deep blue enclave. Strangers walking their dogs past my house go, "Nice sign."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 4:07 pm | #
When she wrote the second one, V, she said "we wouldn't be doing this if you'd listened to me the first time."
I had the great pleasure of seeing Molly Ivins at her last public appearance.
I wish she'd have lived long enough to piss on GW's grave.
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09.22.07 - 4:07 pm | #
For every theft, a new one will be placed on the terrace of my busy corner, until this fucking war is over.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
You go, girl!
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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09.22.07 - 4:08 pm | #
The nausea and slack-jawed drooling are a small price to pay for that.
How can you tell?
(I keed! I keed!)
Molly Ivors |
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09.22.07 - 4:08 pm | #
Maybe we can hook up Zod and Incog for a little masochistic action...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Lash their left wrists together, strap a taser to each of their right hands, and then drop them in a big pit.
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Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Yes. regarding the Hummer vs. Prius thing I remember at one time trying to reach the right wingers by showing that the the guy they got into office really wan't fiscally conservative and had grown the government to new heights.
Of course that didn't play because they knew that "9/11 changed everything" tm
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what with cholera, starvation, lack of basic services, daily car bombings, being shot to death by US Forces or the various militias, driven out of their homes, kidnappings
Moonbootica, Job Hunting
Well, there is the nausea anyway.
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09.22.07 - 4:08 pm | #
But arguments like that are quite common now.
It's amazing to me that the strawman argument has become state of the art in recent years.
I wasn't brought up to think like that, and it can be difficult to contend with people who proffer phony ideas to promote their own agendas.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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09.22.07 - 4:09 pm | #
family violence is somehow not an important issue because a study or so shows that women start as many fights as men.
"feminism's over; it did what it had to do and went away."
Feminism's work won't be done until men have all had an operation that allows them to give birth out their asses, while the womenfolk smoke cigars and watch gay porn.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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09.22.07 - 4:09 pm | #
life has gotten better for my mum since she came into money though, an independent income
for a long time my dad was the main breadwinner
Moonbootica, Job Hunting |
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09.22.07 - 4:09 pm | #
my dad rarely does the housework at all and the kitchen, forget it
my dad sticks to the financial side and spreadsheets
so my mum does the laundry, cooking, recycling, feeding the cats, cleaning etc.
I also help out, if she is away for a night or in case of the world jamboree a couple of weeks I usually take over
Do you think this is an acceptable division of work for all of you?
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 4:10 pm | #
Fuck Zod.
Because of this, you cannot tell him to grow up, you cockloving bitch.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 4:10 pm | #
OT, but it is absolutely pouring here! Our first winter rain, and it's been nearly 8 months since the last drop hit the pavement.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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09.22.07 - 4:10 pm | #
I wish she'd have lived long enough to piss on GW's grave.
Well, we'll have to take an honorary piss for her. I plan on outliving that disgusting pissant. I imagine once he's out of office w/o the minders he'll be drinking and drugging pretty heavily.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 4:10 pm | #
"9/11 changed everything"
I rather suspect 11/4/08 is going to change it all back.
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09.22.07 - 4:10 pm | #
life has gotten better for my mum since she came into money though, an independent income
family violence is somehow not an important issue because a study or so shows that women start as many fights as men.
You hos just get us so very angry.
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 4:11 pm | #
Hmmmmmmm....just had a thought. Maybe we can hook up Zod and Incog for a little masochistic action...
I think that the odds are pretty good that they are actually the same person. Maybe he contorts himself in a painful way and sucks his own dick.
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09.22.07 - 4:11 pm | #
life has gotten better for my mum since she came into money though, an independent income
for a long time my dad was the main breadwinner
Moon, truer words were ne'er typed on a blog. I have a sign on my fridge that says, "Women who pay their own rent don't have to be nice."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 4:11 pm | #
Feminism's work won't be done until men have all had an operation that allows them to give birth out their asses, while the womenfolk smoke cigars and watch gay porn.
That's in the next five-year plan, of course.
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 4:11 pm | #
Do you think this is an acceptable division of work for all of you?
Echidne | Homepage | 09.22.07 - 4:10 pm | #
not really, my dad is very traditional in many aspects, when it comes to husband-wife dynamics, it was the way he was brought up
for him he expects a warm dinner at the end of a day of work, that kind of attitude
Moonbootica, Job Hunting |
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09.22.07 - 4:12 pm | #
I imagine once he's out of office w/o the minders he'll be drinking and drugging pretty heavily.
A Ken Lay-style heart attack would keep him out of The Hague.
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09.22.07 - 4:12 pm | #
What are you Dumbocrats and nutroots doing today to demoralize our troops in the field? You will never find us attacking the leader of our troops in battle.
And no, "attacking" Stumpy Cleland and Mr Waffles Heinz when they are running for office is not the same.
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09.22.07 - 4:12 pm | #
so my mum does the laundry, cooking, recycling, feeding the cats, cleaning etc.
I also help out, if she is away for a night or in case of the world jamboree a couple of weeks I usually take over
Do you think this is an acceptable division of work for all of you?
Good grief.
I think Moon's dad needs a kick in the ass- or else needs to hire his wife a maid.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork |
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09.22.07 - 4:12 pm | #
It must suck to be Atrios - always right.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Oh, I shouldn't like that! It would take all the mystery out of life!
Rmj, Ecce Homo |
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09.22.07 - 4:12 pm | #
Maybe he contorts himself in a painful way and sucks his own dick.
I would think having one's head up one's ass all the time would be more of a stretch.
JeffCO |
09.22.07 - 4:12 pm | #
Sheets
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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09.22.07 - 4:13 pm | #
my mother before he had my older brother she worked as a nurse, and a good one, she has fond memories of the high times she had with dishy docs
Moonbootica, Job Hunting |
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09.22.07 - 4:13 pm | #
I'm interested in the stories that Rather will tell.
Spocko |
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09.22.07 - 4:13 pm | #
You will never find us attacking the leader of our troops in battle.
We'll never find you enlisting to go fight this glorious war you love so much either.
Go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork |
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09.22.07 - 4:13 pm | #
You hos just get us so very angry.
NTodd the Newt | Homepage | 09.22.07 - 4:11 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
They do it on purpose. They push our buttons so that we'll react violently, and then they use it against us. When will the courts understand this?
You know what...I'm thinking it's time we had a male liberation movement. If women can breastfeed in public, why shouldn't I be able to jerk off on their tits while watching? It's a double standard!
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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09.22.07 - 4:13 pm | #
for him he expects a warm dinner at the end of a day of work, that kind of attitude
Moonbootica, Job Hunting
I get that after I've made it. Keep the wife out of the kitchen. Just my preference.
Mom still does all the cooking for Dad, which is better for everybody. So it goes.
Rmj, Ecce Homo |
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09.22.07 - 4:13 pm | #
You know, ultimately, it really is the delusions of these people that bother me more than anything else. They will see whatever they want to see to the detriment of this country right up until we are totally and completely fucked. (And we may have even reached that point)
DWD - Uncivil |
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09.22.07 - 4:14 pm | #
From Raw Story:
SUPREME JUSTICE 'WEPT' OVER BUSH V. GORE
There's no crying in appeals courts.
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09.22.07 - 4:14 pm | #
That's in the next five-year plan, of course.
No Five Years outside of Holdfast...
NTodd the Newt |
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09.22.07 - 4:14 pm | #
You hos just get us so very angry.
There's a very interesting piece in the NYT about a fundie woman preacher who was telling women to submit to their husbands and who then got beaten by hers. The way some people react to the piece is enlightening.
Echidne |
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09.22.07 - 4:14 pm | #
It must suck to be Atrios - always right.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore
Oh, I shouldn't like that! It would take all the mystery out of life!
I love the scene in Broadcast News where Hunter's boss says, "Gee, it must be nice to be right all the time," and she says, "Oh, no, it's awful."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 4:14 pm | #
There's a very interesting piece in the NYT about a fundie woman preacher who was telling women to submit to their husbands and who then got beaten by hers. The way some people react to the piece is enlightening.
It was interesting to see how many folks called her a phony but weren't mad at the husband.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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09.22.07 - 4:15 pm | #
Babel, Sept 22, 2007 (VOI) – U.S. forces killed a family of seven members including women and children on suspicion they belonged to one of the militias in al-Iskandariya district, 50 km north of Babel province, an official police source in Babel said.
"U.S. forces raided a house in al-Iskandariya and opened fire at a family, killing all seven members. The U.S. soldiers then detonated the house," the source, who declined to have his name mentioned, told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
From Moonboo's link @ 3:41.
This is so effective at winning hearts and minds we do it over and over and over....
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09.22.07 - 4:16 pm | #
What are you Dumbocrats and nutroots doing today to demoralize our troops in the field? You will never find us attacking the leader of our troops in battle.
Shorter, Susan:
Seig, Heil, y'all!
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09.22.07 - 4:16 pm | #
Do you think this is an acceptable division of work for all of you?
Echidne
Heh. I consider myself a feminist and yet that's pretty much the division around here as well, except I take care of the financials as well. I let Mr. QL do most of the shopping and errand running.
It's not right or fair but it is the way it was in my house and in his house growing up. After dinner his little sister (by 3 fucking years) had to help clean up and wash the dishes while mr. ql and dad went and watched teevee.
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