I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravataraha


Gravataraho


GravatarYes, if I'm not mistaken, John McCain has had an extramarital affair. But we aren't supposed to mention it.


GravatarThe Liberian 20 dollar September 11 come -on is nauseating.


GravatarOh yeah -- and resulting in divorce no less.


GravatarThe Liberian 20 dollar September 11 come -on is nauseating.
plantsman


Thank you, my friend.

So tacky.

So morbid.


GravatarMcCain's supporters seem to have no problem with mavericky adultery.


Gravatarre-HICA!
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GravatarMcCain's supporters seem to have no problem with mavericky adultery.
plantsman



I'll bet he's had more than one adulterous affair.

But IOIYAR


GravatarThat LE pic cracks me up!


GravatarThe Liberian 20 dollar September 11 come -on is nauseating.
plantsman


If that had been a fake SNL ad or something, most people would probably consider it in very poor taste.


Gravatarplantsman: That LE pic cracks me up!

Didja figure out what I did to it in Photoshop?
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GravatarThe eyes and the snout look all wrong, but whaddo I know?


GravatarCan the Liberian Jonestown commemorative coin set be far behind?


Gravatarhe Liberian 20 dollar September 11 come -on is nauseating.
plantsman

If that had been a fake SNL ad or something, most people would probably consider it in very poor taste.
MP


Rudy Giuliani saw it and said "Am I still running commercials?"

Haloscan suddenly all wiggy....


GravatarCan we ever stop pimping-out that awful day for tacky collectibles?


GravatarBrooklyn Girl, did Simels comment under the Paula nym? Of course he did. Did he comment under the mimi nym. Of course he did. What are you saying here?

The only thing you can say is the yes he did but it was a joke or something, and no one gives a shit anyway.

Strange


Gravatarplantsman: The eyes and the snout look all wrong, but whaddo I know?

The eyes are wrong, 'cause I "fixed" 'em. The ol' tapetum lucidum got me, since it was a flash photo.
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GravatarThe expression on his face is to die for!


GravatarCan we ever stop pimping-out that awful day for tacky collectibles?
plantsman


Not as long as those tacky collectibles continue to make money.

Unfortunately.


Gravatarplantsman: The expression on his face is to die for!

He's just talkin' to me, as he so often does.
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GravatarIt's not the sex, it's the lying!

...oh, he did? In his autobiography? Really?

-nevermind-


Gravatarno one gives a shit anyway.


First thing you've said that makes any fucking sense.


GravatarDavid Gregory speculates that the Edwards' affair may be bad news for Obama

Matt Stoller wrote that it's no coincidence that Obama went on vacation just as Edwards was fessin' up.

Fuck 'em all. Let Maude sort 'em out.


GravatarThe only thing you can say is the yes he did but it was a joke or something, and no one gives a shit anyway.

Strange


Not at all.


GravatarComment by The Youngstown Kid blocked.



Is this boring little twerp still here?


GravatarIs this boring little twerp still here?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 3:45 pm | #


Yeah.


GravatarWhy are the male beach volleyball olympians unnaked?


GravatarYeah, the troll sorter outer -- everybody wants one!


Gravatarno one gives a shit anyway.


First thing you've said that makes any fucking sense.
SteveLG




GravatarThe follow through by the MCM on McCain's history of infidelity and fucking around will be to dismiss it as "old news" or otherwise ignore it to the best they can.

Josh is absolutely on target with this one. They don't want to go there becasue this is all downside for Huggy Bear, particularly with the stick up the ass crowd he's been so painfully trying to court.


GravatarWhy are the male beach volleyball olympians unnaked?
masculine_monica_nyc




GravatarThe follow through by the MCM on McCain's history of infidelity and fucking around will be to dismiss it as "old news" or otherwise ignore it to the best they can.

McCain's infidelities are understable, given his history of captivity and service as a FVPOW.


Gravatar
Yes, if I'm not mistaken, John McCain has had an extramarital affair. But we aren't supposed to mention it.


Hey, his extramarital affair is proof that he's all mavericky and shit.


GravatarBeach volleyball, where 6'2" is a shrimp.


GravatarKrugman strikes a very Atrios-like tone today, good column.


GravatarRepeated from below. Just two words for John Edwards:
Gary Hart.
He shows up often on the cable news outlets, and is treated quite respectfully. In 2006 he accepted an endowed professor position at the University of Colorado. Proof that there is life after conducting a really stupid extramarital affair. And if you don't believe that, just ask John McCain himself, although in his case the $100M fortune of his mistress and future wife did help.


GravatarEdwards made a clean breast of things, McStain. Isn't it about time that you did the same?

Tell the truth ans shame the devil.


GravatarI think I'm over commenting on Edwards, but can I share something?

Last night at yet another fair, I asked a woman if she was registered. Her response, after she looked sheepishly at her husband, "I'm not allowed."

AAAagh. It sort of saps the life out of you.


OTOH, it was a very good night for registering others.


GravatarThey don't want to go there becasue this is all downside for Huggy Bear, particularly with the stick up the ass crowd he's been so painfully trying to court.




GravatarJosh is absolutely on target with this one. They don't want to go there becasue this is all downside for Huggy Bear, particularly with the stick up the ass crowd he's been so painfully trying to court.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 08.09.08 - 3:47 pm | #

I really don't care about people's private lives. I think Edwards handled this thing really, really badly. One of the things I give our new governor credit for is that, as soon as he took office, he made a public announcement that he and his wife both had affairs while going through a difficult period in the marriage.

So should we go after Republicans for having affairs? Or focus instead on their hypocrisy on the issue?


GravatarMcCain has fessed up -- that's why he's not talking about Edwards.


GravatarMatt Stoller wrote that it's no coincidence that Obama went on vacation just as Edwards was fessin' up.

Nah, Obama planned his vacation a long time ago.

Last night at yet another fair, I asked a woman if she was registered. Her response, after she looked sheepishly at her husband, "I'm not allowed."

Oh my god. That's frightening.


GravatarBut I highly doubt there will be any follow through.

-Atrios 15:28


oh i don't know. mcbomb has some fucking splainin' to do for himself now.

that, or we could go with the msm narrative...


GravatarLast night at yet another fair, I asked a woman if she was registered. Her response, after she looked sheepishly at her husband, "I'm not allowed."

AAAagh. It sort of saps the life out of you.


OTOH, it was a very good night for registering others.
camelot, party unity dammit | 08.09.08 - 3:48 pm | #


What century is this????


GravatarJudith Nathan giving Rudy a blow job on the back side of the Liberian coin is in poor "taste".


GravatarSo should we go after Republicans for having affairs? Or focus instead on their hypocrisy on the issue?

I don't really care, even if they are hypocrites.


GravatarSo Terry, Brooklyn Girl and Billy, I take it that none of you question that Simels posted as Paula and mimi.

So you three do not question the important stuff, you only attack. I must say, I once knew a woman like you.


GravatarWhat century is this????

Depends where on the planet you're standing.


GravatarAs a gay man, the way the GOP exploits closeted, self-loathing gay men to keep them legally unequal bothers me much more.


GravatarLast night at yet another fair, I asked a woman if she was registered. Her response, after she looked sheepishly at her husband, "I'm not allowed."




WHAT??????????????

Oh....my....fucking.....god.

WHAT is WRONG with her?????


GravatarI just heard that Bernie Mac died. How fucking depressing. He was a real decent cat. And hilarious.


GravatarSomehow the Edwards affair is big news but when Guliani ran in the Repub primaries his bizarre public affairs were not news. How the story of his sleeping with his mistress in Gracie Mansion, the mayoral residence, while his wife & children slept in nearby rooms didn't come up is beyond me. McCain was having affairs, including Cindy, while still married to his first wife. Don't hold your breath on MSM reporting of this either. I think progressives are going to have to go public on these things, partly by going after the media for failing to report them, as a way to get them into the main stream media.


GravatarJohn McCain coould be caught fucking a 14 year-old girl while hacking off her head with a chainsaw and the press would give him a pass for it.

He's HERO you know. They can do anything they want because they love America.


GravatarCarter:

What makes me sick is that Carol McCain still "adores" her ex husband.

I mean, what the fuck?


GravatarAre there denominations, like Jehovah's Witnesses, that don't vote?


GravatarBrooklyn Girl, what you are overlooking is that for way too many Americans, marital infidelity is frankly worse than murder or theft. Particularly when it's done by someone who actually gives a rat's ass about murder or theft.

I don't care about a politician's private life, either, but there are a lot of prudish shitheads who cannot bear to tear their eyes from Janet Jackson's nipple as they fret about how it will corrupt the children.


GravatarDropping bombs on women and children does not a hero make.

Sorry, but that's not a hero in my book.


Gravatar
Krugman strikes a very Atrios-like tone today, good column.


Link?


GravatarWhat makes me sick is that Carol McCain still "adores" her ex husband.
I mean, what the fuck?

Uh, who are you to judge her? And who gives a fuck if she still has affection for her ex-husband?


GravatarJohn McCain coould be caught fucking a 14 year-old girl while hacking off her head with a chainsaw and the press would give him a pass for it.

David, if he were caught with a 14 year old boy they'd insist on giving him a medal for killing a fag.


GravatarUh, who are you to judge her? And who gives a fuck if she still has affection for her ex-husband?
masculine_monica_nyc



Ooooooooooooooooooh...well, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuse ME!


GravatarPaul Krugman: Know-Nothing Politics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/0....html?th& emc=th


GravatarMcCain has fessed up

Has he given every last detail, though? Whose tongue touched where? What positions were used? Were any cigars employed? And so on.

The public has a right to know.


GravatarTEH STOOPIT! IT BURNS! IT'S IN MY BACKYARD!!!
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GravatarUh, who are you to judge her? And who gives a fuck if she still has affection for her ex-husband?
masculine_monica_nyc


Come, sit by me.

I was sick of this after five minutes yesterday afternoon. I can actually see both sides.


GravatarSo Terry, Brooklyn Girl and Billy, I take it that none of you question that Simels posted as Paula and mimi.


Of course we know that. We also know when he does it as it is done as a joke.

TC and BG rarely 'attack' posters. Neither suffers fools gladly, which is why you think they attack.

Of course, you know this as you've been here a long time. Right?


GravatarMcCain has fessed up




When?


Gravatarturnabout is fair play...


GravatarHuggy does not piss and tell.


GravatarWhat century is this????
Brooklyn Girl, shady dame


I don't think you realize how common this still is in the US(Pennsyltucky). I am sorry to be the one that shares it, and experiences it, believe me, but I do think people should know. Hiding this sort of thing under the rug does no one any good.

So, I get re-energized coming here and go at it again. The key is to find the women where they are not with their husbands.


GravatarIn his Autobiography.


GravatarSo Terry, Brooklyn Girl and Billy, I take it that none of you question that Simels posted as Paula and mimi



What the hell are you talking about?

Who the fuck cares?????


GravatarLink?

C'mon, dude. New York Times. Dot com.


GravatarThe party’s de facto slogan has become: “Real men don’t think things through.”

Dick Cheney has actually publically dismissed conservation as being what pussies do.


GravatarLinked above.


GravatarWhere the fuck did these trolls get the idea that other people on a comment board owed them something? Hey! You have admit this! Hey you have to apologize to me for guessing the wrong sock puppet owner! Hey! Come read my cut and paste job from an anonymous e-mail quoted in Newsbusters! Hey you guys are so uncivil to people who want to kill you.....

to live in such fear day in and day out such that even their play is colored by these twisted projections. They really do need to understand that the re-education camps are just that, re-education camps. We aren't going to gas them or anything like that. If we were going to kill them we'd use our bare hands out in the sunlight. Not with dogs in a dungeon like they do.


Gravatarin re Janet Jackson's nipple

I remember Michael Powell talking about how he and his family were wholesomely enjoying a wholesome family moment of All American Entertainment, and then came .... The Nipple!!!

IIRC, Janet and Justin were singing "All For You" when the wardrobe malfunctioned. Here's the lyrics

Shakin' that thing
Like I never did see
Got a nice package alright
Guess I'm gonna have to ride it tonight

All my girls at the party
Look at that body
Shakin that thing
Like you never did see
Got a nice package all righ


I wonder if Mrs Powell and the kids were wholesomely singing along.


Gravataredwards was right about it all after all... there are 2 narratives.

or is there?


Gravatarcatalexis | 08.09.08 - 3:58 pm




Standing ovation!


GravatarJanet had a big honking nipple piercing -- NASTEH!


GravatarIt's not enough to say "I fucked so-and-so," McStain. Details of each encounter must be given.


GravatarI take it that none of you question that Simels posted as Paula and mimi.


If it makes you happy, I'll even agree that he shouldn't do it, because it just encourages you to keep spewing all this meta bullshit.


GravatarI was sick of this after five minutes yesterday afternoon. I can actually see both sides.

People seem to think that politicians and their families and other people around them are some sort of not-human beings. They're just people, and people fuck up all the time, and they're hypocrites, and sometimes they forgive each other, and sometimes they don't. People make their own way through the world in personal relationships.

Maybe it's just the amplifier effect of blog comments that makes it so tiresome.


GravatarWere there any women among those 2,008 Chinese drummers?


GravatarDick Cheney has actually publically dismissed conservation as being what pussies do.
Apprentice to Darth Holden



I still cannot believe that the GOP is going to let him speak at their hatefest...er, convention.

They really do WANT to lose.


GravatarJanet had a big honking nipple piercing -- NASTEH!

Um, that's "Miss Jackson" if you're nasteh.


Gravatar
The Youngstown Kid


This video sums up our friend quite well...

Baby oscar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h? v=rDgQCg3ut_I


GravatarI couldn't tell the gender of people from many countries for sure.


GravatarI take it that none of you question that Simels posted as Paula and mimi.

You're overlooking that Simels is not a Bushfellating fascist shitbird like you.


GravatarThe party’s de facto slogan has become: “Real men don’t think.”


Two words too long.


GravatarI still cannot believe that the GOP is going to let him speak at their hatefest...er, convention.

They really do WANT to lose.

Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |

I agree, I cannot for the life of me understand that move.


GravatarUm, Josh? You might want to read this and then, maybe read a couple of these.



GravatarAnother 50something man suddenly drops dead from a lifetime of smoking and gluttony.


GravatarMichael Powell = nepotism at its worst.


GravatarI agree, I cannot for the life of me understand that move.

When the publicly sacrifice him on the High Altar they'll be able to distance themselves from him.


GravatarComment by sims blocked.



Whatever, jack.


GravatarI agree, I cannot for the life of me understand that move.

Cheney brings the fighting spirit of the undead. Notice how nothing has stuck to him through his entire career? He's still considered a political success story among power brokers, and he'll never have to worry about finding work, having money in the bank or anything else.


GravatarIt was pneumonia.


GravatarSo Terry, Brooklyn Girl and Billy, I take it that none of you question that Simels posted as Paula and mimi.


Of course we know that. We also know when he does it as it is done as a joke.

TC and BG rarely 'attack' posters. Neither suffers fools gladly, which is why you think they attack.

Of course, you know this as you've been here a long time. Right?
billy b | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 3:56

Billy, this is quite an admission. You say "we" know that aned "we" know that he does it as a joke. (forgetting the very nast stuff he writes unter these sock puppet nyms) bbut fair enough.

Who is "we' anyhow? Are you speaking obout your close group within this blog or are you speaking for everyone here, including Atrois too?

Seriously dude


GravatarI agree, I cannot for the life of me understand that move.

When they publicly sacrifice him on the High Altar they'll be able to distance themselves from him.
NTodd, BJA Twitter General



Him and McCain.


GravatarAnother Burn Notice!


GravatarWhen the publicly sacrifice him on the High Altar they'll be able to distance themselves from him.
NTodd, BJA Twitter General | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 4:04 pm | #

OOOh, I think we should do that at the Dem convention!


GravatarIt was pneumonia.
plantsman


jack don't do facts.


GravatarOOOh, I think we should do that at the Dem convention!

PINK!


GravatarIt's different - McCain is a 'War Hero' and serves Mavericky barbeque for reporters.


GravatarAtrois -- "Seriously, Dude."


GravatarWhen the publicly sacrifice him on the High Altar they'll be able to distance themselves from him.
NTodd, BJA Twitter General


I dunno. I think the gods will actually be pretty angry when they go to cut out his heart and it's not there.


GravatarI'm watching a doc on the Heaven's Gate cult.

Some freaky shit there!


Gravatar
The Youngstown Kid


Allen Butler's psychosis is showing.


GravatarBilly, this is quite an admission.

It's nothing of the sort. Now you can shut the fuck up.


GravatarIndeed, Richard.


GravatarI think the gods will actually be pretty angry when they go to cut out his heart and it's not there.

Okay, then kill a chicken. Pretty much the same thing.


GravatarJohn Edwards actually mentioned McCain's infidelity in the interview with ABC.

But, of course, this will not get any play thanks to the Vicky Iseman debacle.


GravatarWho is "we' anyhow? Are you speaking obout your close group within this blog or are you speaking for everyone here, including Atrois too?

Who cares?


GravatarY'all missed the best movie EVAR: Fish Don't Blink, starring Wil Wheaton!
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GravatarIndeed, Richard.
plantsman


Sad, really.


GravatarIt's not enough to say "I fucked so-and-so," McStain. Details of each encounter must be given.

How about details of ONE encounter? I've heard lots of innuendo about his propensities, but where's the beef?


GravatarI dunno. I think the gods will actually be pretty angry when they go to cut out his heart and it's not there.
blerb | 08.09.08 - 4:08 pm | #

I'd be very happy if they'd publicly humiliate Lynne. She is one evil woman.
(No singing or humming)


GravatarComment by el blocked.



Give it up, jack.


GravatarSeriously dude

when Allen starts crying and whining like a baby it is, as Richard has done, give him the Diaper Oscar.

way to go, stupid fucking Aggie.


GravatarDon't the trolls know we all get together to have orgies once a month?


Gravatarbut where's the beef?

That's what Cindy keeps asking.


GravatarWho is "we' anyhow? Are you speaking obout your close group within this blog or are you speaking for everyone here, including Atrois too?

Who cares?
masculine_monica_nyc



Who is "Atrois"?


Gravatar"Whaaaaa! I wanna be in the club of liberals I don't like! Whaaaa!"

*pthbhth* get lost loser.


GravatarDon't the trolls know we all get together to have orgies once a month?

Assumes organs not in evidence.


GravatarDidn't Atrios once say that his nym was a typo?


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna get flamed, but I'm a little uncomfortable attacking McStain through the little lady. I know he used his position and power to make the story go away, but still.


GravatarI'd be very happy if they'd publicly humiliate Lynne. She is one evil woman.
(No singing or humming)
camelot, party unity dammit



"Where did you get that coat....and the dress.....awful!"


GravatarPssst.

If you quit talking to it, it will go away. If you just ignore it, it'll more than likely give up and go eat some cheetos or something.


GravatarWho is "Atrois"?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 4:11 pm | #


Sounds French...


GravatarDidn't Atrios once say that his nym was a typo?
BlueinColorado


Yeah, he misremembered the name of some old Greek.

Atriotes?


GravatarPeople seem to think that politicians and their families and other people around them are some sort of not-human beings. They're just people, and people fuck up all the time...
masculine_monica_nyc

Hi monica,

I fully agree with you. My preference is that there be no MSM coverage of candidates' private lives. But the game, which has been going on for a couple of decades now, is that sexual dalliances are hung like a noose around a Democrats & no media attention if its a Repub. So we have virtually no coverage if its Senator Vitter (Louisanna), Gov. Schwartzneigger, McCain, Mayor Guilianni but extensive coverage for Democrats. The result is the Democrat is brought down, ie. Clinton was impeached & continually treated like garbage by the MSM, Gov. Spitzer was forced to resign, Edwards is now going to be dragged through the mud for a while. We need to work for a uniform standard for Democrats & Repubs.


GravatarFor those who want the details of infidelity by John McCain, I suggest the book Faith of My Fathers , by McCain and Mark Salter


Gravatarhey vicki, I beat Jenn at scrabble. A feather in my cap. Your sis is intense!


GravatarAtroits, just go back and read the comments written under the Paula and mimi nyms today.

Then judge for youselfs.


Gravatar
If you quit talking to it, it will go away. If you just ignore it, it'll more than likely give up and go eat some cheetos or something.


Dungeons and Dragons.


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna get flamed, but I'm a little uncomfortable attacking McStain through the little lady. I know he used his position and power to make the story go away, but still.
qlª - | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 4:12 pm | #

Is the little lady wife #1 or #2?
I do think it could be brought up that Ross Perot paid for #1s surgeries. Then people can take it where they will.


GravatarWho is "Atrois"?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |


Sounds French...
abyssgazer



FRAY-unch????

Can't have THAT!


GravatarThey restore their fel powers from Cheetos, which as we all know, is a petroleum product! My Gott in Himmel! This whole war makes sense now!


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna get flamed, but I'm a little uncomfortable attacking McStain through the little lady.

We shouldn't mention that he cheated on his wife with a rich woman with a politically connected father who could jump start his new career? She knew he was married, isn't she somewhat culpable too?


GravatarIf you quit talking to it, it will go away.

allen butler will, like mosquitoes after a rain, always be with us.


GravatarSpanish shopkeeper finds euro with Homer Simpson's face
http://www.yahoo.com/s/931898


GravatarFor those who want the details of infidelity by John McCain, I suggest the book Faith of My Fathers , by McCain and Mark Salter
plantsman


Nah, that's okay.


GravatarShe knew he was married; isn't she somewhat culpable too?
MikeJ



Yes.


GravatarNah, the adultery is fair game. I'm talking about the link GWPDA supplied that talks about Cindy's drug addiction and how it was covered up.


Gravatar(I haven't read it and won't, btw)


Gravatarhey vicki, I beat Jenn at scrabble. A feather in my cap. Your sis is intense!
qlª




Congratulations!

I know. I miss her, too. Wish she were closer. Now, another sister is moving to Wenatchee, so both of my favorites will be gone...


GravatarShe knew he was married; isn't she somewhat culpable too?
MikeJ


They're both slimeballs?

Imagine my surprise.


GravatarSpanish shopkeeper finds euro with Homer Simpson's face
http://www.yahoo.com/s/931898
Richard



Doh!


GravatarReminds me of hobo nickels.

http://www.hobonickels.org/


Gravatarql, she used employees of the charity to cover up her theft of drugs -- most junkies pay.


GravatarSaw the movie Mongol yesterday. Its a great film on Ghengis Khan.


Gravatar(I haven't read it and won't, btw)
plantsman



I'm in the supermarket the other night and on the rack with the DVD is some movie about McStain.

I won't be buying THAT, either.


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna get flamed, but I'm a little uncomfortable attacking McStain through the little lady.

There's so much other good material to attack him with, it's hardly necessary to lower it with that sort of scurrilous thing. Makes one look like a sore winner.


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna get flamed, but I'm a little uncomfortable attacking McStain through the little lady. I know he used his position and power to make the story go away, but still.
qlª - |


Cindy, Carol or Vicki Iseman?

I think it's more a question of the press double-standard, which has been far more generous to McCain on other stories: His flip-flops on torture (he actually bragged about his support of the MCA with regard to Hamdan, a bill he once melodramatically vowed to sacrifice his presidential campaign to blocking... nobody noticed), the whole "celebrity" campaign from Jon Stewart's most frequent guest... I could go on till I got scroll-trolled.


GravatarI heard McCain's wife was a thespian.


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna get flamed, but I'm a little uncomfortable attacking McStain through the little lady. I know he used his position and power to make the story go away, but still.

I'm with you. I think it's obnoxious.

Echidne had a recent post on this subject:

Tacky Tactics

Are often suggested on the comments threads of political blogs. For instance, when the wingnuts attack Michelle Obama, the frequent recommendation I read on liberal blog threads is to counter the attack by going after Cindy McCain. It's as if the wives of the presidential candidates are part of their husbands' private property and therefore a fair target in the campaign battles. You know, like trying to destroy the artillery units of an opposing army. But spouses are not artillery units.


Gravatarql, she used employees of the charity to cover up her theft of drugs -- most junkies pay.
plantsman


a disease for the rich, a crime for the poor


GravatarOne of my main problems with McCain:

In 2000, Rove & Company trashed the guy.

Trashed his family.

Picked on his young daughter.

And not even 5 years later, he's on the campaign trail with Bush, practically giving him a blow job.

He's not even willing to defend his reputation or his family and he's going to keep America safe?

Bull........................shit!


GravatarIf you quit talking to it, it will go away.

allen butler will, like mosquitoes after a rain, always be with us.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 08.09.08 - 4:14 pm | #


And I have no problem swatting it.

There's a guy in NY named Kenny Shopsin who owns what is easily the quirkiest restaurant in the entire city. The menu includes things like macaroni and cheese pancakes. He redefines the term "curmudgeon". Calvin Trillin is a huge fan. Somebody made a movie about him, and used a quote of his as the title:

"I Like Killing Flies"

Call me the Spawn of Shopsin.


GravatarThe Obama campaign just sent out an email with the compelling headline: "Does John McCain have a woman problem?"

http://washingtonbureau.typepad....-camp- sugg.html


GravatarCindy, Carol or Vicki Iseman?

D'ya notice that all the first names of McStain's victims (that we know of) begin with "C", except for Vicki.

This may explain his addiction to the C-word.


GravatarMcCain is trying to attract support from Latinos by taking credit for writing an Immigration Bill he did not even vote for. How about that follow-through!


GravatarAnd not even 5 years later, he's on the campaign trail with Bush, practically giving him a blow job.

Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


Only because Bush didn't ask for one directly.

You've seen the hug picture, of course.

McCain's got a real bad case of Stockhom syndrome. Perhaps understandable given his imprisonment, but I wish he'd get some help.


GravatarI heard McCain's wife was a thespian.
MikeJ



Sure you don't have her confused with Cheney's?



GravatarThis may explain his addiction to the C-word. - Lime Rickey

Or is it that C-women explains his addiction to the c-word?


GravatarWhat the hell is the pictured food?


GravatarI've known many addicts and part of the sickness is the willingness to do anything to obtain drugs. Her addiction shouldn't be fodder, his part in the coverup sure, but it may backfire.


GravatarWe need to work for a uniform standard for Democrats & Repubs.

How about the equal time principle? If there is a story about one, must follow with an equal story about another.

Just one, sorry it has to wait.

How about that standard? MSM would certainly go for that...


GravatarThere's so much other good material to attack him with, it's hardly necessary to lower it with that sort of scurrilous thing. Makes one look like a sore winner.
blerb

Unfortunately, its extramarital affairs & other sleeze that resonates with the public. The other stuff goes in one ear & out the other. Media attention on McCain's extramarital affairs would sharply damage him with the women vote.

My preference is for no media coverage of private lives. But MSM focus on Democrats & Repub obsessions with the affairs of Democrats make it mandatory that Democrats go after Repubs on this.


GravatarWhen McCain was at the naval academy he matriculated. In public.


GravatarI wanna a photoshop of Ceiling Cat commenting on the McBush-Bush Embarace.


GravatarEmbrace. - sheesh


GravatarYou've seen the hug picture, of course.



But, of course:


http://thumbsnap.com/v/K10C1U1I.jpg


GravatarI don't think the Republicans pushing this Edwards thing really thought it through very well--but then, they never do. They like to destroy, but then forget all about consequences.


GravatarUnfortunately, its extramarital affairs & other sleeze that resonates with the public.
Carter


I'm not sure that's true. It resonates with the media, who want to sell their product; hence the 24/7 saturation.

But my own unofficial poll of people who do not think like I do, after the Clinton revelations, got an almost universal response: "why are we hearing about this? We don't want to hear about this!"


GravatarBut no, the Obama camp wasn't saying that. Instead, the enticing headline drew readers into a New Republic article on McCain's opposition to abortion rights. Thus, his "woman problem."


GravatarA CNN/Opinion Research poll released Wednesday has Ralph Nader polling six percent nationally in the presidential race, with Bob Barr polling three percent. Barack to John McCain: 46% to 43%. NewsMax says “staffers working on behalf of Nader’s fifth run are convinced he could poll as high as 20 percent if allowed to take part in the debates.”

The spoiler rises again


GravatarWhen McCain was at the naval academy he matriculated. In public.

Don't forget the group mastication.


GravatarI like this photo even better:



http://thumbsnap.com/v/dZOIe4HS.jpg


GravatarLook upon it and weep, ye Unbelievers!


GravatarOoh! 20%!!! He might win!!!!


Gravatar“staffers working on behalf of Nader’s fifth run are convinced he could poll as high as 20 percent if allowed to take part in the debates.”



Must be some kick ass shit THEY'RE smoking.

Wonder how much money he plans on taking from the GOP ths time out.


GravatarThe spoiler rises again
el


Hell, I am surprised to find that ol' Ralph is still alive.


GravatarGromit!


GravatarBut no, the Obama camp wasn't saying that. Instead, the enticing headline drew readers into a New Republic article on McCain's opposition to abortion rights. Thus, his "woman problem."

Yes. You see, Obama is above the sort of sleazy innuendo and sensationalizing we have seen of late. He's running a clean campaign.


Hmmmmmm, maybe a little too clean?


GravatarJohn McCain was mad. Fuming mad. It was then the early days of his political career, and he had paid an unscheduled visit to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Mesa, which was within his Arizona congressional district. That's when Gloria Feldt, then the CEO of the group's local chapter, got a phone call. "Congressman McCain is here," a staffer told her, "and he is screaming and it is upsetting the patients."

http://tnr.com/politics/story.ht...57- 57a47a676e0b


GravatarBut no, the Obama camp wasn't saying that. Instead, the enticing headline drew readers into a New Republic article on McCain's opposition to abortion rights. Thus, his "woman problem."
plantsman | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 4:26 pm | #


Ha! That's pretty good. Sort of hard for them to complain about too.

All the Obama camp has to say is "Why whatever do you mean?"


GravatarThis has got to be great news for Giuliani, all the adultery he's committed.


GravatarI like this photo even better:



http://thumbsnap.com/v/dZOIe4HS.jpg
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


That's a good one, all right.


GravatarI'm not sure that's true. It resonates with the media, who want to sell their product; hence the 24/7 saturation.

I agree completely. This is my experience with this Edwards situation.


GravatarA CNN/Opinion Research poll released Wednesday has Ralph Nader polling six percent nationally in the presidential race, with Bob Barr polling three percent. Barack to John McCain: 46% to 43%.

The first number is a joke, which means the second two are total bullshit.


Gravatar"Does John McCain have a woman problem?"



Absolutely!


GravatarI like this photo even better:
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


Time for an old Tim Kreider toon:

"Operation: Head Of State"

"...like...he'd been doing it...his whole...life..."


GravatarYes. You see, Obama is above the sort of sleazy innuendo and sensationalizing we have seen of late. He's running a clean campaign.


Hmmmmmm, maybe a little too clean?
catalexis


Kerry tried something of the sort, I believe. Look where it got us.


Gravatarstaffers working on behalf of Nader’s fifth run are convinced he could poll as high as 20 percent if allowed to take part in the debates.”



Must be some kick ass shit THEY'RE smoking.


Yeah, but they promise to only be 20% high if Ralph can debate.


Gravatar"Congressman McCain is here," a staffer told her, "and he is screaming and it is upsetting the patients."

Nice work, McStain. No wonder decent women hate your guts.


GravatarAll the Obama camp has to say is "Why whatever do you mean?"
abyssgazer | 08.09.08 - 4:28 pm | #

The language is a subtle dig on McSerialCheater's past.


GravatarJebus will appear in a Ritz cracker and make everything alright.


GravatarVicki has a hard "c" in it, so in keeping with your "C" theory, Lime Rickey, one could assume that McCain is addicted to hard consonants.

"Cuntsonants," if you will.


Gravatar"Congressman McCain is here," a staffer told her, "and he is screaming and it is upsetting the patients."




What an asshole!


Gravatar"Does John McCain have a woman problem?"

How was his last pap smear?


GravatarI don't think the Republicans pushing this Edwards thing really thought it through very well

The other person not thinking things through is Edwards, running for potus with this affair just WAITING to be discovered.

Imagine if he had gotten the nomination!


GravatarKerry tried something of the sort, I believe. Look where it got us.
Adam


We're not good at that kind of thing. Our mother's taught us well.


GravatarImagine if he had gotten the nomination!
el



Well, he didn't.


GravatarImagine if he had gotten the nomination!

But he didn't, did he? So what did it buy them? Pressure on the media to question McCain.


GravatarPeople think it was Cindy who waited all those years.


GravatarThe other person not thinking things through is Edwards, running for potus with this affair just WAITING to be discovered.


I think the media had an inkling about this story for quite a while, and I think that may be why he didn't get a lot of play during the campaign. They knew it was toxic.

Just as well.


GravatarIf there *is* followthrough, can we expect "atrios" to curse the reporters, to call them panty sniffers? To call them goat blowers? To decry their prurience? To say "it's all about sex"? To say "Yes, we know, you love obsessing about trivial bullshit that no one cares about and that doesn't affect the lives of actual people."

You are such a complete fucking joke.


Gravatarql, i agree. Plus why focus on Cindy's problems when the country is in such a mess, can't we just harp on that? McBush McBush McBush. That's all we need to get rid of all R's. They stand with Bush.


GravatarHow was his last pap smear? - MikeJ

The "Celebrity" ad?


GravatarYeah, but they promise to only be 20% high if Ralph can debate.
abyssgazer



I have a feeling that Ralph would be as boring to listen to as McStain is.


GravatarWell, I'm off, yet again. I'm developing a very thick skin. The local Dems don't warm the cockles, if you know what I mean.


GravatarVicki has a hard "c" in it, so in keeping with your "C" theory, Lime Rickey, one could assume that McCain is addicted to hard consonants.

"Cuntsonants," if you will.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Hey, that's right. Another log of proof on the fire.


GravatarAnother sockpuppet.


Gravatartoo clean.

it was to add to

too popular
too fit

Oh pooh. I have out clevered myself and will now pop back into the dimension from whence I came.


GravatarYou are such a complete fucking joke.





But yet you keep showing up here.

Must be a bitch having no friends and no life.

Loser.


GravatarWell...once the attack machine goes down the "he's hiding behind his terminally ill wife" road--a likely path as they can't help themselves--there might be some "we're tired of this bullshit" backlash.


GravatarMust be some kick ass shit THEY'RE smoking.

His campaigners might be high, but 6% could certainly affect Obama.


GravatarImagine if he had gotten the nomination!

Yeah, we dodged a bullet there. It's kind of an interesting hypotherical, like imagining 'what if Kenned hadn't been shot (either one)', but other than that, I don't think I'll be giving it much thought. Ain't no use worrying about stuff that never happened.


GravatarYou are such a complete fucking joke.

Republicans are so tiresome. They can dish it out, but they can't take it at all. Wusses.


GravatarAn examination of court documents tells a different story. McCain did not sue his wife for divorce until Feb. 19, 1980, and he wrote in his court petition that he and his wife had "cohabited" until Jan. 7 of that year -- or for the first nine months of his relationship with Hensley.

Although McCain suggested in his autobiography that months passed between his divorce and remarriage, the divorce was granted April 2, 1980, and he wed Hensley in a private ceremony five weeks later. McCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.

http://www.jedreport.com/


GravatarHis campaigners might be high, but 6% could certainly affect Obama.
el


I doubt that.


GravatarYour president is on television calling for "an immediate end to the violence [in Georgia]", but what is he going to do about it?


GravatarMcCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.




Nothing like Repug family values.


GravatarMcCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.


GravatarYour president is on television





Ain't MY president.

Never was.

He wasn't elected in 2000.


GravatarSorry, I had a FY moment.


GravatarImagine if he had gotten the nomination!

Your concern is noted.


GravatarMcCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.

Um, isn't that, you know, illegal?


GravatarImagine if he had gotten the nomination!

Your concern is noted.
dave™©



Nader trolls SO get on my nerves.


GravatarUm, isn't that, you know, illegal?

Only for Democrats.


GravatarLeslie Blitzer ran the Rovian marathon to smear Edwards like a real Olympian yesterday. Unkle Karl must have some very nasty videos of Wolf with his wurst in some Hitler Youth.
When the years of Pravda/CNN are over I wonder if we will ever know what motivated traitors like Blitzer. It couldn't all be about money could it Leslie The Whore?


GravatarUm, isn't that, you know, illegal?
A. Morphous, bias ply



Bigamy?

Or pre-bigamy.


GravatarThe question, Mr. Putin; is what are YOU going to do about it -- slaughter thousands more?


GravatarThe question, Mr. Putin; is what are YOU going to do about it -- slaughter thousands more?
plantsman



But that can't be.

Didn't Chimpy look into his eyes and see his soul?


GravatarSorry, plantsman, but trolls can't read that. Shall we try:

MCCAIN OBTANED A ARIZONA MARRAGE LISENSE ON MARCH 6, 1980, WHILE STILL LEGALY MARIED TO HIS FIRST WIFE!!!!1!!1!


GravatarLandslide bitchez!!

'scuez me while I dip a fresh tree of broccoli into a sauce made of your chilled bitter tears.....*nummy*


GravatarYour president is on television calling for "an immediate end to the violence [in Georgia]", but what is he going to do about it?
Vladimir Putin


I'm gonna look into your soul pooty-poot, eat a pretzel, injure myself and let dad vomit on ya.


GravatarDad! Eat some more pork rinds!


GravatarUnfortunately, the U.S. is so badly damaged militarily, morally and diplomatically by 7 years of Bush mismanagement and criminal behavior, we can't do a damn thing about the Georgia situation, besides George getting on TV and bitching about it.


Gravatar
Didn't Chimpy look into his eyes and see his soul?


Maybe he looked into Putin's one eyed monster.
.


GravatarNYT article on Russian invasion of Georgia:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/1...=rssnyt& emc=rss


GravatarMcCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.




Is McCain a secret Mormon?


GravatarI hope Nader gets the nomination this time. I like three ways.


GravatarMcCain belongs to the Moronic Church.


GravatarWhen did el become a troll? I don't think so.


GravatarIs McCain a secret Mormon?

He's a not-so-secret Moron.
.


GravatarUnfortunately, the U.S. is so badly damaged militarily, morally and diplomatically by 7 years of Bush mismanagement and criminal behavior, we can't do a damn thing about the Georgia situation, besides George getting on TV and bitching about it.
Mark B. from Austin TX


The LA National Guard wasn't even around when the people of New Orleans needed them.

Where would preznit fuckwad get troops to send to Georgia?


GravatarWolf Blitzer.

Obvious gay porn screen name.


GravatarMcNIBY is for Yucca Flats but against shipping nuclear waste through AZ.


GravatarBush bitching about human rights violations....talk about something being a joke.


GravatarWhy do I have to have jury service every single year?  Am I the only person in this whole town they have to ask?


GravatarLeslie Blitzer, not so much.


GravatarOne of a fairly small number, I imagine.


Gravatarfrom digby

"Flabbergasted, I asked McCain why would he want to sabotage Mofford's testimony, when in fact the CAP was the nonpartisan pet of Republicans and Democrats — such as far-left Udall and far-right Goldwater — since its inception.

"His reply, as near as I remember, was, 'I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance.'


GravatarWhy do I have to have jury service every single year? Am I the only person in this whole town they have to ask?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian



I just got called for it, too.

Then again, I haven't been called since 2000.


GravatarWolf Blitzer.

Obvious gay porn screen name.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


...would do well in bear videos.


Gravatar'I'll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance.'




Right now, he's embarrassing himself.


GravatarWell, I have to go now. Goodbye Terry, Billy and Brooklyn girl. I can only say that I hope that sometime in my life I can find only one friend that would defend me as well as you 3 defend Mr. Simels.

But, on the other hand I take that back. If I was being that stupid, I would rather have a friend that told me so.


GravatarGWPDA-

Send Arthur.


GravatarActual Gay Bear Porn Star Name: Jack Radciffe.


GravatarMCCAIN OBTANED A ARIZONA MARRAGE LISENSE ON MARCH 6, 1980, WHILE STILL LEGALY MARIED TO HIS FIRST WIFE!!!!1!!1!

It's not really a marriage license. It's a certificate of live wedding.


GravatarWhy do I have to have jury service every single year? Am I the only person in this whole town they have to ask?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian


Just ignore it. That's the quickest way to get them to stop sending notices. That's what I do.

My gay porn name is Brick Mastiff.


GravatarAmericans will never elect a spearchucker to the highest office in the land. They get it


GravatarThe Youngstown Kid | Homepage | 08.09.08



Your obsession with simels is creepy and I hope you get the professional help you need.

You are truly sick.


GravatarBuh-Bye, Butler.


GravatarIt's not really a marriage license. It's a certificate of live wedding.
MikeJ | 08.09.08 - 4:51 pm | #


Ohhh that was wicked subtle there mate.


Gravatara hard working white




Fuck off, racist pig.


GravatarA sudden racist troll!


GravatarQuilt Lady -

Can you still play Scrabble on facebook? I know it was disabled, but I thought I read that you could play it.

I just signed on, was trying to find it. I haven't signed on for a while.


GravatarAmericans will never elect a spearchucker to the highest office in the land. They get it
a hard working white


Why not?

They elected me and I'm a cocksocker.


GravatarWolf Blitzer's gay bear porn name: Boo Boo Feh.


GravatarBuh-Bye, Butler.
plantsman



Another of his sockpuppets showing up...

4...3...2.....


GravatarI meant a cockpuncher.

Cowpuncher? Whatever.


GravatarA sudden racist troll!

I figure it is Monica Goodling exercising her Regent University black studies degree.


GravatarYou can play Scrabble, but lots of folks don't care for it.


GravatarFrom DIGBY????  I just put that up last thread from this week's New Times!

No fair, Digby!


GravatarWhy do I have to have jury service every single year? Am I the only person in this whole town they have to ask?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian


Once you get picked for a murder jury, they back off


GravatarYou can play Scrabble, but lots of folks don't care for it.


Hmmmmmmmm. Thanks, plantsman.


GravatarBeav-er-ton!
Beav-er-ton!
Beav-er-ton!

Women's sabre gold medal match replay on. Both from Orygun.


GravatarI like to lurk here at the Atriums blog. These liberal hippie gals are a barrel of laughs. Any of you gals got them fancy tatoos right above the old caboose?


GravatarRegent University black studies degree




Which consists of reading "Mandingo" and watching "Birth of a Nation". I suppose.


GravatarKen Doll on CNN "cannot, for the life of me, understand why Russia is invading Georgia."

He finds the world "so confusing".

The Most Trusted Name in News, people.


GravatarVicki-look for Wordscraper

If you'd like I'll set us up a game.


GravatarIt's like those cheesy horror flicks where the demon shows up looking like your dear departed parents or long dead sibling and tries to entice you into getting close enough to bite your neck or something. These things show up and start whining and pointing fingers and throwing temper tantrums like that kid on the clip from earlier. Damn that was funny.


Gravatarhello all.


GravatarI've been getting emails on this.
How big a concern is it?

"Massive US Naval Armada Heads For Iran Submitted by Sheila Samples

The build up of naval forces in the Gulf will be one of the largest multi-national naval armadas since the First and Second Gulf Wars. The intent is to create a US/EU naval blockade (which is an Act of War under international law) around Iran (with supporting air and land elements) to prevent the shipment of benzene and certain other refined oil products headed to Iranian ports." http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite...nk.php? id=66043

http://europebusines.blogspot.co...s-for- iran.html


GravatarScrabble Beta blows.

Stick with Wordscraper. It's basically the same as scrabulous. The same set of brothers developed it.


Gravatara moment of zen...


GravatarLet's see:

Georgia has become a US client state
is trying to gain entry into NATO
and Russia doesn't want it to.


GravatarVicki, It's called wordscaper. Kinda weird, cuz it let's you design your own board. No blanks. I'm sure they had to get out from under the copyright laws.


Gravatarwordscraper.


Gravatar"2 US aircraft carriers headed for Gulf

By GottaLaff

This report is from Thursday. Why have we not heard about this? Why did I ask that?

Two additional United States naval aircraft carriers are heading to the Gulf and the Red Sea, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Kuwait Times.

Kuwait began finalizing its "emergency war plan" on being told the vessels were bound for the region.

The US Navy would neither confirm nor deny that carriers were en route. US Fifth Fleet Combined Maritime Command located in Bahrain said it could not comment due to what a spokesman termed "force-protection policy.""

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...d-for- gulf.html


Gravatarall the beltway bumpkins think Carol McCain deserved to get dumped


GravatarIf you'd like I'll set us up a game.
qlª - |


Gravatarquiltlady,

That was a yes.

D'oh on me.


Gravatar"Massive US Naval Armada Heads For Iran

groan. With the mess in Georgia, I suppose it's an opportunity.


GravatarIran can retaliate by blocking any oil leaving the Persian Gulf, stopping the world economy. This is such a bad idea.


Gravatar

any plumbers in da house? i tried to fix the leaky faucet, now it's worse.

i read how to do it online, and even watched a stupid video. of course, when i take mine apart it looks nothing like theirs. took the whole thing down to the hardware store got new parts, put 'em in and it's dripping faster than before.

and i have to go in the spider cave basement every time to turn off the water.

did i mention i'm crabby?


Gravatarfokowi - I just read that they found some huge oil deposit in Stanley, ND.


GravatarFrom comment at link:

A naval blockade of a country with this many alternate shipping routes would be hillariously ineffective. If an armada of this size is heading toward the Persian Gulf, there is some other reason. Either we are going to war with Iran right away, or it is saber rattling.

Funny how chaos feeds upon itself.


Gravatarall the beltway bumpkins think Carol McCain deserved to get dumped
jr



Why?

Because she wasn't young enough to be McStain's daughter and filthy rich?

I thought it was unmanly to live off a woman.


GravatarIran can retaliate by blocking any oil leaving the Persian Gulf,

That wouldn't make the europeans too happy. They went out on a limb to censure Iran at our behest. Iran could piss off a lot of people at once if they mess with the oil supply.

Opening the door for US and Israel action without as much criticism.


GravatarThis is such a bad idea.
plantsman


So was invading Iraq.

Didn't stop this regime from doing it, though.


Gravatarvicki, turn


GravatarOnce, folks would have a truce during the Olympics. Those silly old folks.


GravatarGood afternoon lovely people. The elite media won't be making the connection, so I'm making it for them everywhere I have a podium. Funny, Josh and I had the same take but I have a photo of the first Mrs. McC and the link to the damning story in the Daily Mail with all the sordid details.


GravatarNPR tells me this a.m. that three American women swept the medals in the Sabre event.

Why do I doubt I'll see even the medals ceremony on NBC tonight? (Other than I won't be watching because I despise American Olympics coverage. When the NBC reporter approached Yao Ming after the opening ceremonies last night and fawningly asked what it meant to him and several billion Chinese (and please, use emotional language!) I left the room before I could damage the TeeVee.)


GravatarIndoor plumbing turned out to be a lot harder than I thought it was going to be too. matching threads and metal types, using the right kind of tape on the threads, getting the right size fixture, all not as straightforward as i assumed it was going to be. Took me three days and five trips to the home depot to get it on right. Next time I'm calling the priest...plumber, I mean, plumber.


GravatarThis is such a bad idea.
plantsman


So was invading Iraq.

Didn't stop this regime from doing it, though.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 5:07 pm | #

So was the whole 'war on terror' everything about it has been wrong.


Gravatarina - did you replace a plastic washer?


GravatarI'm sure it's occurred to ALL covering this story...but, HEY, you don't expect them to lose their place at the Bar-B-Q do ya? Remember McShame is a HERO and and old guy so they need to move carefully (not to mention his HOT, rich wife)...our media is filled with nothing less that SHARKS (of all persuasions) who have only their careers and ratings as a motivating factor!


GravatarFinding and burning a whole bunch more oil will not help the climate.

August 9th, 2008
The U.S. Geological Survey just published its official results of a groundbreaking study.

Its report confirmed a massive oil reserve in an area the locals have nicknamed the "Bakken," which stretches across North Dakota, Montana and southeastern Saskatchewan.

The new USGS study estimates a whopping 3.65 billion barrels of oil in the Bakken... but here's what they didn't mention:

The reported 3.65 billion barrels of oil mean estimate is for 'undiscovered' oil only, and doesn't include known oil, such as reserves.
In fact, the study reports a 25-fold increase in the amount of oil that can be recovered... compared to the agency's estimate back in 1995.

Discovered over 50 years ago, the Bakken deposit--once impossible to extract--is now being hailed as the single largest oil find in US history.


GravatarJeebus, why do I have pictures of WWIII being imminent? Any one of these messes could set the whole thing off.


GravatarNext time I'm calling the priest...plumber, I mean, plumber.
catalexis


well... next time i'm not gonna wait until the day before i'm going on vacation to try to fix it... then i'll call the plumber!


Gravatari read how to do it online, and even watched a stupid video. of course, when i take mine apart it looks nothing like theirs. took the whole thing down to the hardware store got new parts, put 'em in and it's dripping faster than before.

and i have to go in the spider cave basement every time to turn off the water.

did i mention i'm crabby?
ina, heroine


I'm very impressed you could take it apart and put it back together. I suspect you might have the wrong size washers. I believe that's important, not that I've ever done any plumbing myself, but I've watched it done many times.


GravatarYeah, in plumbing, even if nowhere else, size does matter.


GravatarCan you just shut the water off while you're gone?


GravatarIndoor plumbing turned out to be a lot harder than I thought it was going to be too. matching threads and metal types, using the right kind of tape on the threads, getting the right size fixture, all not as straightforward as i assumed it was going to be. Took me three days and five trips to the home depot to get it on right. Next time I'm calling the priest...plumber, I mean, plumber.
catalexis


The story of any home repair job I have undertaken. It always starts with the words "This won't take long/be that hard...."


GravatarThe story of any home repair job I have undertaken. It always starts with the words "This won't take long/be that hard...."


I'm not wired for plumbing.

He he he


GravatarJeebus, why do I have pictures of WWIII being imminent? Any one of these messes could set the whole thing off.


Because you realize that stupid, evil bastards like Boots, Pork Chop, and the neocon war criminals that created the global situation are still in power and are still trying to fuck things up.


Gravatar"Headlined on 8/8/08:
Cindy Sheehan Makes It On Ballot To Challenge Nancy Pelosi!!

by Linda Milazzo www.opednews.com

After weeks of collecting signatures from constituents in San Francisco's 8th Congressional District, Independent candidate Cindy Sheehan has made it onto the November ballot to oppose Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, for Pelosi's heretofore secure Congressional seat. As Sheehan told me exclusively this afternoon:

"I think this is the happiest that I have been since before Casey was killed (except when my grandson was born). Getting on the ballot as an independent in California is so difficult, but with the help of many of our friends who are committed to peace, accountability, economic equality and environmental sustainability, we have done it! The voice of the people will be on the ballot in San Francisco in November.""
http://www.opednews.com/articles...080808- 135.html


Gravatarina - did you replace a plastic washer?
billy b


well, if by washer you mean a little flat circle, no. there was a whole plastic unit thing and the seat & spring. i all of that on the cold side and it was worse. so i left the new seat & spring in but put the old plastic thingy in, and again it's worse than before i started.

i bought new parts for the hot side, but didn't change it yet ('cause the drips were definitely cold, so i figured the leak was the cold side...)

but if i can't do it, i can just leave the water to the house turned off for two weeks, right?


GravatarJeebus, why do I have pictures of WWIII being imminent? Any one of these messes could set the whole thing off.
qlª -



"The Rapture is coming!"

/fucktards


GravatarBTW...McShame and the Repugs can say all they want about having a "vision" for our energy future...but the behavior of this group is all about short term gain and padded bank accounts...I'm not sure they can actually think past tomorrow!


Gravatarwow, somewhere the word 'replaced' disappeared in there...


GravatarIf Lizzie were the murderer, then she owns an axe.Lizzie does not own an axe.Therefore, Lizzie was not the murderer.


GravatarThe neocons proper have scuttled away and their disciples, while mostly still in power, are lame ducks. Robert Gates is a slimeball spook but he's not a neocon.


GravatarIna - it might be the seat.

And yes, you can leave the water off for two weeks. I often turn off the hot water heater and shout off the water when I go on vacation.


Gravatardidn't it used to be SOP to turn off your water and gas when you were leaving your home for an extended period.

I wouldn't know how to turn off the gas.


GravatarThose who said the sudden diplomatic mission to Iran was a set-up may be right. I can see it now..."we tried diplomacy, but it failed. Attack!"

[McCain pops up: "See?! Obama was wrong!"]

Explosions, lots of dead, breathless reports beside fancy graphics with portentous martial musical stings, plenty of folks having a jingoist orgasm over finally getting even for that hostage thing 30 years ago...then shit keeps hitting the fan...over and over it hits the fan...what?! Not such a grand idea after all? No one could have foreseen...blah blah blah...

Of course, I could be wrong...in this case I hope I'm terribly wrong.


Gravatarevening moonbats

have had a fun relaxed evening with my maternal relatives


GravatarNo expert, but I believe the washer is key.


GravatarShut off the water.


GravatarJeebus, why do I have pictures of WWIII being imminent? Any one of these messes could set the whole thing off.

Except the US is spent militarily and economically, don't see it as likely. It could lead to an even greater world-wide disruption of economic activity, though.


GravatarAnd yes, you can leave the water off for two weeks. I often turn off the hot water heater and shout off the water when I go on vacation.
billy b |


i don't know how to turn off the hot water heater. could it stay on even if i turn the water off?

what do you mean it could be the seat? the new one?


GravatarExcept the US is spent militarily and economically, don't see it as likely.

Exactly my point upthread.


Gravatarevery year on this date my mother's side of my family usually arranges a get together

its the weekend of my Grandpa's birthday (he turns 91 on Monday)

i was the only one of my cousins without a boyfriend or husband lol


Gravatarpuppet-Didn't I hear yesterday that as the recession speads around the world the U.S.$ is becoming stronger? Pretty sure I did. So spreading economic chaos may just be the plan.


GravatarIf Special Relativity is true, then the mass of the electron has a specific dependence on velocity
Experimentally, the mass of the electron does not have this dependence (Kauffmann (1906))
Therefore, Special Relativity is false


GravatarJeebus, why do I have pictures of WWIII being imminent? Any one of these messes could set the whole thing off.

I've been saying for a long time that we're at a 1914 moment


GravatarWhat a day. Mrs. Billy B bought a new bed and sleeper sofa yesterday and the son and I spent the day moving the old bed out, the new bed in, and the sofa also. Neither fit thru the door or the hall or up the stairs, so a lot of teeth were gnashed. Had to take the door off, rails down, etc.

And then had to haul the old crap off. I am beat.


GravatarGeorgia had been getting "advice" from (you'll never guess) about its military and abvout a parallel pipeline network that would compete with Russia's and trail below it through Russia and various Turkic states, through investment and guidance from (you'll never guess). Now the (you'll never guess) advisors are claiming they tried to stop Georgia's disastrous mishandling of the Ossetia situation.


Gravatarwe're building up to something big


Gravataris this the thing you're calling 'the washer'? this is what i replaced, plus the seat & spring beneath it.


GravatarIs Vicki Iseman pregnant with McCain's child, or did she have (gasp!)...


GravatarThe "new Cold War" escalates.


GravatarTrail below Russia through *Georgia* and various Turkic states.


GravatarIt strikes me as terribly convenient for the McCain campaign that this "huge", "easily-accessible" ocean of oil appears just now.


Gravatari don't know how to turn off the hot water heater. could it stay on even if i turn the water off?


You can leave the hot water heater on.

If the seat is damaged, the faucet will leak.


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna get flamed, but I'm a little uncomfortable attacking McStain through the little lady.

I don't think it's fair to attack Cindy directly and I don't blame her for breaking up the marriage or anything, she was just a kid when he started chasing her. But I think his infidelity and his horrible betrayal of Carol is fair game.


GravatarToday I was reading about the coverage of Thomas Frank's book the Wrecking Crew and a few people over at Salon made the comment that they head the interview of him on NPR and how the interviewer bent over backwards to excuse the neocons their behavior.

I heard him give an interview with Dave Davies(sp) on Fresh Air and heard some of the same stuff. It's like Krugman in the early days. The status quo media just keeps giving these people the benefit of the doubt over and over and over.

The most brilliant insightful thing I heard from Franks interview was that one reason that the conservative activism took off is that people figured out how they could make money from the conservative suckers.

That rang a bell in me so hard I practically knocked over the oranges in the grocery store.

It's so obvious and the media don't even see it because they are swimming in it. Think tanks, "experts" op-ed pieces, astroturf campaigns it's all around them and it seems normal. The Government even indulges with the generals and its all "oh well."


GravatarIf I'm not mistaken, that is part of a Delta (i.e. washerless) faucet.


GravatarAnd then had to haul the old crap off. I am beat.
billy b |


wow! so i'm sure just what you want in here is plumbing questions!

here, have a cold beer on me


GravatarDidn't I hear yesterday that as the recession speads around the world the U.S.$ is becoming stronger?

Perhaps, sounds like a bad idea that Cheney would pursue. There's also the question of destabilizing the oil coming out of Russia.

But like everything Bush and Cheney do, this will backfire and what they'll really do is plunge the world into another global depression like in the 1930s.


GravatarIn an age where the country is so shit squirtlingly scared of terrorists that you have to undergo a fucking cavity search to board an airplane, the crowd that brought you this neo-fascist police state wants to build off-shore and nuclear powered targets for these self-same terrorists to take pot shots at. Because solar and wind is too faggy.


Gravatari just had such a doom and gloom feeling these days


GravatarIf I'm not mistaken, that is part of a Delta (i.e. washerless) faucet.
melior |


ah! no wonder i didn't know what washer everybody was talking about!


Gravatarwow! so i'm sure just what you want in here is plumbing questions!


Oh, hell no. I will offer advice whenever I can. I doubt I did much to help tho.

Thanks for the beer.


Gravataroh my - A campaign has been launched in Greece by tourism officials against bars serving "bombes", cocktails of spirits that are being blamed for increasingly bad behaviour in holiday resorts.

The campaign, which will see police officers and scientists conducting random checks of nightclubs and bars, comes amid mounting evidence that unsuspecting holidaymakers are being sold drinks laced with lethal doses of industrial spirit.

Adulterated alcohol is believed to be behind the death of a British teenager who collapsed after a binge-drinking session outside a nightclub in the resort of Laganas on the island of Zakynthos last month.

"In certain areas, like Malia on Crete, bombes are a real problem," said Sophia Nova, a tourism ministry official. "We may talk a lot about the attitude of tourists and their excessive drinking but often it's the alcohol that's at fault. If we don't solve this problem and get rid of bombes, Greece's image will be tainted."

Mixing alcohol with industrial spirit to make beverages go further is an old ruse long employed by some unscrupulous bar-owners in Greece.

In recent years, however, the bombe appears to have grown in popularity with proprietors eager to attract customers with cheap drinks. Doctors have likened the cocktails to "a small bomb that goes off in the brain".


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/...9/ greece.greece


GravatarOkay, I'm gonna get flamed, but I'm a little uncomfortable attacking McStain through the little lady.

She's giving him her corporate jet for the campaign, it's fair game. But we could focus on Vicki Iseman and the affair McCain has/had while married to Cindy.


GravatarIna, It appears to be a cartridge type rather than one that uses washers. A new cart.should have stoped the leak. Are you sure that you instaled it properly? Sometimes there is a front and back. to the cart. Also, don't you have a shut-off below the faucet that uou can turn off rather than the whole house shut-off?


Gravatarcould the new seat be damaged? or could i have fucked up putting it in right? you just kinda stick in there, right?


Gravatarmaybe Bush needs to be served a Bombe


GravatarOh man, if "industrial spirit" is Euro-speak for "methanol" that is very bad news.

Can cause permanent blindness.


GravatarMcCain's campaign plane is a 737.


GravatarIna, how low on the faucet does the leak start? Is it leaking from the bit where the faucet meets the base?


GravatarCan cause permanent blindness.
melior



Yeah, that's what they told me about....

Hey! did the lights go out?


Gravatarcretinoisnts are so dumb - Miners in Romania have unearthed the skeleton of a 2.5m-year-old mastodon, believed to be one of the best preserved in Europe, a local official said yesterday.

They stumbled on the find during excavations in June at a coal mine in the village of Racosul de Sus, about 100 miles north-west of Bucharest, according to Laszlo Demeter, a local historian.

"This is one of the most spectacular finds in Europe," said palaeontologist Vlad Codrea, who examined the skeleton. "For Romania it is unique."

Codrea, of Babes-Bolyai University in Cluj, said 90% of its bones were intact, with damage to the skull and tusks. He also said that he hoped the find would help palaeontologists form a better image of the animals and vegetation present in the area 2.5m years ago.

"It is sensational. To discover a near complete skeleton is unique in Romania and a rarity in the world," said Marton Wentzel, a researcher of vertebrates at the Three Rivers Land museum in Oradea, western Romania. The mastodon is a mammoth-like animal which became extinct in Europe 2-3m years ago.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/scienc.../09/ archaeology


GravatarAlso, don't you have a shut-off below the faucet that uou can turn off rather than the whole house shut-off?
dmark | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 5:25 pm | #


i wish i had an under the sink shut off. definitely on the big picture home improvement list! even the pipe in the cave basement looks like it could use replacin'.

i don't know if i coulda put it in backwards. i guess i'll fiddle with it later.


Gravatarcould the new seat be damaged? or could i have fucked up putting it in right? you just kinda stick in there, right?
ina, heroine


Yes, both possible. Or you got the wrong one still. I was partly guessing based on the image filename having "delta" in it, but that company always bragged in their ads about their washerlessness-ness. I would try looking around on the Delta website for a special exploded diagram of their fancy pants faucet assembly.


GravatarIna, how low on the faucet does the leak start? Is it leaking from the bit where the faucet meets the base?
Echidne


no. just dripping out the top itself. it was a steady drip, now, after my work, it's a fast drip...


Gravatarmaybe Bush needs to be served a Bombe

oh dear. Hi, NSA! Now just calm down, and make sure you read the rest of the thread, especially that bit about Greece just up there a little ways. And if any of you know anything about faucets you could chime in, or go leave a comment over at Simels' place, he does crave attention so. Thanks...breath, it's ok.


Gravatari just had such a doom and gloom feeling these days
Moonbootica, relaxed


Me too...as my last comment demonstrates. I guess the best thing is to hold on tight to those you love, and know you are not alone.


GravatarI'll try again. Today, A Federal Agency says that over 3.5 billion barrels of oil exist in North Dakota, Montana and Southeastern Saskatchewan -- just when we need it to show up. How convieeeeeeennent!


Gravataris this the thing you're calling 'the washer'?

Not what I think is a washer. I don't know what that picture is of. I thought a washer is a little disk with a hole in it, like a flat donut. Shouldn't there be one somewhere in the whole chain of parts?


GravatarCindy plane still flying. It's being used by McCain's campaign, even if he's since moved up.

(Yes, article is a bit dated, but it was being used during his campaign so she's made herself part of his campaign.)


GravatarMiners in Romania have unearthed the skeleton of a 2.5m-year-old mastodon, believed to be one of the best preserved in Europe, a local official said yesterday.


That's a fake planted there by godless libruls.

/fundie idiots


GravatarJustice? - A man who blasted Cher and U2 from his home has had his stereo equipment and music collection destroyed.

Karl Wiosna, of Graig, near Pontypridd was warned to turn down his music by Rhondda Cynon Taf Council after complaints were made.

He was served him with a noise abatement notice, which he later admitted breaching.

As a result, his two tape and record decks, his radio and his tapes and CDs were seized by the council.

All of Wiosna's equipment has now been destroyed and he was also fined £265 by local magistrates after he admitted the charges against him.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales...ast/ 7551176.stm


Gravatar
i wish i had an under the sink shut off. definitely on the big picture home improvement list! even the pipe in the cave basement looks like it could use replacin'.


Oh jeez, let me get my plumbing tools and I'll come install a shut off and a new faucet.


Gravatarcatalexis. I was watching the movie Vantage point last night. It was about an attempt on the president's life. I'm sure that they didn't devuldge any details about his security detail but they said something interesting. "We've used doubles since the Reagan years."

And I'll be that there are a couple of people who are Bush doubles that are used for when he is really hung over and just has to wave to a crowd.

Cheney doubles?


GravatarOh jeez, let me get my plumbing tools and I'll come install a shut off and a new faucet.
dmark


YAY! i'll be your bff!


Gravatarsad news - Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish has died after surgery at the age of 67, hospital and Palestinian officials say.

He suffered complications after undergoing open-heart surgery in Houston, Texas, said a spokesman for Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.

Mr Darwish was the most recognised Palestinian poet in the world, using his words to try to draw attention to the Palestinian cause.

He also delivered harsh criticism of the infighting by Palestinian factions.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ast/ 7551918.stm

I love his poems, I have a book of them


GravatarFBI apologizes for improperly accessing reporters’ phone records.
The FBI yesterday revealed that in 2004, it improperly obtained the phone records of reporters for the New York Times and the Washington Post. Requiring such records requires the approval of the deputy attorney general, a procedure not followed in these cases. According to the New York Times, the “records were apparently sought as part of a terrorism investigation, but the F.B.I. did not explain what was being investigated or why the reporters’ phone records were considered relevant.”

Seeing that those papers have been protecting Bush for 7 years, I hope they thought it was worth it.


Gravatar


Moonbootica, relaxed

You try that here you'll meet riots and charges of racism. Over here being obnoxious (especially with unforgivable loud music) is a matter of minority racial identity. Nobody seems to have figured out that it attracts cops.


GravatarI could use a double right now.


Gravatarina, if you know the model number to click on there are some pictures here:

http://www.plumbingwarehouse.com...s- category.html

Or here perhaps.


Gravataroh dear. Hi, NSA! Now just calm down....
catalexis


I've often wondered if the pattern-recognition software they use has a fit if someone says, "Shoot, I love the president! He's the da bomb!"


GravatarIna, how low on the faucet does the leak start? Is it leaking from the bit where the faucet meets the base?
Echidne

no. just dripping out the top itself. it was a steady drip, now, after my work, it's a fast drip...
ina, heroine


You need a man.

You also need a plumber.



Gravatarno doubt i've been flagged since i've been to Tunisia and Egypt

i mean i must be on a database somewhere, MI5 checked out my family when my cousin went to St Andrews University as Prince William was attending at the same time


Gravataroh dear. Hi, NSA! Now just calm down....
catalexis


I doubt if THEY even give a fuck about him anymore.


GravatarI have to say that the whole Edwards deal has really made me depressed. For all the usual reasons, but also, as I suggested yesterday, the way that this will be played and we can't use it somehow to kick the rw media's ass.

I wish that this was all a big sting operation put on by the Edwards on the media. "He will turn around and say, "We made the whole thing up. It was Elisabeth's idea. Here is what we did, here is where we started it and here is what the media did. See how terrible they are America? This is why we have to take the media back. Now we will sue them into non-existance and let the people have crack at it."


GravatarCheney doubles?
Spocko


I seen one!


GravatarOr here perhaps.
melior


oh! that's cool, thanks!

thanks for the help, folks.

now, as if my wrench hasn't done enough today, the girls want me to fix the bikes i bought for them today at a tag sale so they can ride a bit...

i'll be back later with a plumbing update, i'm sure!


GravatarI am off back to Egypt in October

hey MI5 and NSA!


GravatarAfternoon sex is fun.
That is all.


GravatarSomeone like Jacques Rogge should stand up right now and say, "Dudes, don't fuck around during the Olympics. A couple of weeks of peace wouldn't kill you."


GravatarMI5 checked out my family

How do you know when that happens?


GravatarFBI apologizes for improperly accessing reporters’ phone records.


We're sooo sowwy.
</Peewee Hermann>


GravatarBTW, World Net Daily is all over the "giant domestic oil find" story. So the rat wangers will be, too.


GravatarHow do you know when that happens?

k&y, nyarlathotep | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 5:38 pm | #


they tell you I assume

I imagine it happened to everyone who went to St Andrews that year


GravatarIna,
Delta has a real nice customer service dept.
Give them a call. They sent a new wand for my kitchen faucet free and within a couple of days.
Perhaps they'll walk you through the job.


GravatarAfternoon sex is fun.
That is all.
DFH hiding behind 'pute


I recall how this song made my mother giggle.


Gravatar“records were apparently sought as part of a terrorism investigation, but the F.B.I. did not explain what was being investigated or why the reporters’ phone records were considered relevant.”

Seeing that those papers have been protecting Bush for 7 years, I hope they thought it was worth it.
sally | 08.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #

I know. This how they repay the NYT for sitting on the wiretap story for a year (when it could have made a difference in the election of 2004) and the WaPo for carrying BushCo water and allowing itself to be used as a propaganda outlet. Not very nice of them, I'd say!


Gravatarmy cousin didn't see Prince William all that much, just occasional glimpses on the quad and so forth


GravatarWho would cheat on a wife hot enough to enter and win titty-and-crotch contests, a mean banana eater like Mrs. McCain?


GravatarWhere the fuck is Al Gore's voice on all this stupid fucking drilling shit that's going on?


GravatarGeorgia mentioned on the news now: everything all Russia's fault, at most neutral both sides are equated and admonished like children. Fuck these idiots.


Gravatar"Dudes, don't fuck around during the Olympics. A couple of weeks of peace wouldn't kill you."
Le Jackel


I vaguely recall something about this being the original point of the international games... something about the "spirit of the olympics"?


Gravatarno. just dripping out the top itself. it was a steady drip, now, after my work, it's a fast drip...
ina, heroine

You need aman.

You also need a plumber.


jac |


Excuse Me!?!?!

Heh...


Gravatarthey tell you I assume

well we mean how do you know or are you speculating or did they tell you or what?


Gravatarwell we mean how do you know or are you speculating or did they tell you or what?

k&y, nyarlathotep | Homepage | 08.09.08 - 5:41 pm | #


yeah they told my Aunty S

checked out our entire family


GravatarAfternoon sex is fun.
That is all.


SKY ROCKETS IN FLIGHT! AFTERNOON DELIIIIIIIIGHT!


GravatarSomeone I know at work, from his stories he tells, including one about his morning visits to some girls, that he's likely to be cheating on his wife, on a regular basis.

Should I get some pearls to clutch?


GravatarI vaguely recall something about this being the original point of the international games... something about the "spirit of the olympics"?
melior


...and naked Greek men...maybe serve some bombes to get the party going...


GravatarThis whole Georgia-Russia thing has me pretty freaked out. It doesn't sound like it's going to end all that soon from what I've been reading.


Gravatar"Dudes, don't fuck around during the Olympics. A couple of weeks of peace wouldn't kill you."

Le Jackel

This isn't fucking around. We don't see you saying this to a certain other major military power that is prosecuting two different wars at the moment.


Gravatarit's not surprising, the heir to the throne attends university at St Andrews, i imagine they would check out those who are in his year


Gravatarhey.


Gravatarhey.
dirk gently,melancoholic




GravatarReform of the 500-year-old oath that requires MPs to swear allegiance to the Queen when a new parliament is elected would help bring politicians closer to their constituents and modern realities, the MP campaigning for change said yesterday.

Norman Baker, the Liberal Democrat transport spokesman, has attracted 21 other signatures, all but one Labour and Lib Dem, to a Commons motion urging colleagues to consider an alternative oath "to their constituents and the nation" - and promising to uphold the law rather than the serving monarch.

Geoff Hoon, Labour's chief whip, has acknowledged "a substantial body of opinion in favour of change" at Westminster.

But Baker's proposal was attacked yesterday by the former Conservative cabinet minister Lord Tebbit, who called the gesture an attack on the state itself. The Tory MP Geoffrey Cox called it "uncomprehending constitutional vandalism".

Baker, a parliamentary iconoclast, countered that the recent debate on MPs' pay and expenses is only the latest example of the Commons being out of touch with the public mood. "I am trying to strengthen the link between MPs and their constituents," he said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ politi...tution.monarchy


GravatarAfternoon sex is fun.
That is all.

SKY ROCKETS IN FLIGHT! AFTERNOON DELIIIIIIIIGHT!
NTodd, BJA Twitter General


I have a dim memory of that sort of thing being rather pleasant.


GravatarThis isn't fucking around.
k&y, nyarlathotep


But Chimpy looked into Pooty's soul so I'm sure they're just funnin' with Georgia.


GravatarHEY, HERE'S AN IDEA: DON'T FUCK WITH RUSSIA, THE COUNTRY THAT ATE UP SEVEN EMPIRES.


GravatarCheney doubles?
Spocko

I seen one!
Uncle Smokes


me too...


GravatarI have been catching up on the opening ceremony of the 08 Olympics and they cut to Bush and Putin, who seem to be sitting in the same area

i can't imagine what they said


GravatarHEY, HERE'S AN IDEA: DON'T FUCK WITH RUSSIA, THE COUNTRY THAT ATE UP SEVEN EMPIRES.
k&y, nyarlathotep


You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia...


GravatarTHE COUNTRY THAT ATE UP SEVEN EMPIRES.
k&y, nyarlathotep


We've seen them write checks their military can't cash.


GravatarBernie Mac is dead. Mediocre stereotype-driven stand-up comedy will be pretty much the same again.


Gravatarowls!!!!!!!!!


GravatarSeeing that those papers have been protecting Bush for 7 years, I hope they thought it was worth it.
sally | 08.09.08 - 5:33 pm | #



raymond bonner has been a target of the rightwing gop since he exposed the reagan administration's complicity in human rights abuses in central american during the 80s.


Gravatari can't imagine what they said
Moonbootica, relaxed


"Hey Pooty-Poot you startin a war too, huh. Heh, Heh, Heh."


GravatarIna, you can also just shut off the water to the sink.  Look underneath for a valve that round, silver, serrated looking edge. Turn it in the opposite direction.


GravatarThe owls do fly to find clean fresh sheets...


Gravatar'evenin'

back from vacation. So I check out a thread, after not reading the paper for a while. Russia and Georgia at war. John Edwards joins the ranks of the zipper-challenged. McCain hasn't gotten any more attractive. A troll is after Simels, and another denies the special theory of relativity.

Did enjoy Krugman calling a spade a fucking shovel, though:

Republicans, once hailed as the “party of ideas,” have become the party of stupid.
...know-nothingism — the insistence that there are simple, brute-force, instant-gratification answers to every problem, and that there’s something effeminate and weak about anyone who suggests otherwise — has become the core of Republican policy and political strategy. The party’s de facto slogan has become: “Real men don’t think things through.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/0...=th& oref=slogin

Via ovicapitum dura est...


GravatarMaybe the Russians just realized that if they succeeded in conquering Afghainstan, they would have ... you know ... Afghanistan. It would be like working to become king of a small invisible portion of the moon.
 


GravatarI have a dim memory of that sort of thing being rather pleasant.

Yes, in the last 60 minutes my memory has also faded...


GravatarThe Liberian 20 dollar September 11 come -on is nauseating.
plantsman


Oh, hell yes.
Why don't they cut the crap and add an airliner flying toward the WTC in the image of the NYC skyline.

The only thing sicker than this is the trailer-trash QVC-addicted Repig jingoistic 'collectors' who will actually buy it thinking they are being 'patriotic'.


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